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Title: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: oseikuf44 on May 28, 2019, 10:32:12 PM
At a point the team start given excuses to abide by what they promised to do or stop communicating with the community then I can sense the project is scam. How do you determine a project is gone bad and won't fulfil it promise? What criteria do you use ? or you wait for years thinking all will be well ?


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: Stake13 on May 28, 2019, 10:40:46 PM
Ofcourse, you can immediately know that the said project was a scam or fraud by its unusual way of running it and its platforms are unclear just like its promises to its holders. You can also make a research about the project so you are about to get informed or be warned that your target project is just a scam so your time won't be wasted. I can recommend you some project that works really well like Dencoin, Bitcoin and the Ethereum.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: samcrypto on May 28, 2019, 10:44:00 PM
At a point the team start given excuses to abide by what they promised to do or stop communicating with the community then I can sense the project is scam. How do you determine a project is gone bad and won't fulfil it promise? What criteria do you use ? or you wait for years thinking all will be well ?
Maybe if they keep promising for almost two years now and yet their coin has still no value. If its a bounty token then you can’t do anything aside from waiting but if there’s no progress at all then you have to forget about that token because its useless to keep asking about the exchange listing. If they stopped communicatin then its a clear sign of a scam or failed project.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: Psynthax on May 28, 2019, 10:49:05 PM
At a point the team start given excuses to abide by what they promised to do or stop communicating with the community then I can sense the project is scam. How do you determine a project is gone bad and won't fulfil it promise? What criteria do you use ? or you wait for years thinking all will be well ?
If that was running by an unreputable person, I will only trust a platform that tries to develop a platform that makes sense. You should read the concept and think about the possibility of it. If you feel a little bit difficult to determine it and then i suggest you to try to use icodrop as your reference because that's having a big community that was putting high criteria to put ico into the icodrop list.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: triangles on May 28, 2019, 10:49:31 PM
from my experience I usually see from their roadmap if it is not as planned, I will try to ask the team directly sometimes they have funny reasons for example to register to the exchange the reason most often found is they are waiting for good market conditions, and after good market conditions the project still does not implement it and it has been 100% scam and can also be seen from their community on social media whether it contains genuine people or fake people because I am often deceived by the number of people in their community, differentiating fake and genuine people from their activities in the community if you are quiet of questions or chat you must be vigilant


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: TimeTeller on May 28, 2019, 11:04:38 PM
from my experience I usually see from their roadmap if it is not as planned, I will try to ask the team directly sometimes they have funny reasons for example to register to the exchange the reason most often found is they are waiting for good market conditions, and after good market conditions the project still does not implement it and it has been 100% scam and can also be seen from their community on social media whether it contains genuine people or fake people because I am often deceived by the number of people in their community, differentiating fake and genuine people from their activities in the community if you are quiet of questions or chat you must be vigilant

To add also, most of the crap projects have generic content of roadmap, whereas, the authentic ones have detailed items listed on their roadmap.
You can also see how each item is being completed. And they have straightforward answers when you try to inquire about those items.
Also, you can see their company registration on their website itself if they are running legit or you can look for it on their wp.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: chenille on May 28, 2019, 11:04:47 PM
Check out their team and their education in blockchain related work. Directly after that I would ckeck their experience and knowledge of past (crypto) projects. A knowlegeable team will deal well with different complications if they occur. Crypto is full of arising problems and a team without knowledge won' have a chance to survive.
Of course, you'll also be able to find out if the team is a fake team when you compare their pictures in google (upload). The worst scams use stock photos as team pictures.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: tabas on May 28, 2019, 11:07:23 PM
First, I have never invested to any ICO but I'm very much seeing those complains and factors that's related to this.
How do you determine a project is gone bad and won't fulfil it promise? What criteria do you use ?
If the promises they have made weren't fulfilled it's already a sign that they are into something unless they have valid proof for that delay. If no support team is interacting with their people then it's another bad sign.
or you wait for years thinking all will be well ?
This is crazy, ICOs won't take that long unless they're real projects that has need long planning and development.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: coin-investor on May 28, 2019, 11:19:03 PM
At a point the team start given excuses to abide by what they promised to do or stop communicating with the community then I can sense the project is scam. How do you determine a project is gone bad and won't fulfil it promise? What criteria do you use ? or you wait for years thinking all will be well ?

It's very important to trade all the sign that they are going to run away, the earliest possible time, always check the team if they are real, the whitepaper if they are a copy cat from another project, and the platform if it is really working and of course communication.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: dark08 on May 28, 2019, 11:19:58 PM
First thing you need to do for picking a good project is their concept most ico that introduced in the market have a same concept but not all of them are legit thats you you shoud consider which people behid this project if its reputable or fake person.
I also read first the white paper but most scam ico have a good white paper in that case you need tobe careful check the website if its low design then its a sign.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: tsaroz on May 28, 2019, 11:23:34 PM
At a point the team start given excuses to abide by what they promised to do or stop communicating with the community then I can sense the project is scam. How do you determine a project is gone bad and won't fulfil it promise? What criteria do you use ? or you wait for years thinking all will be well ?

A scam project would not reveal it's team members or set up fake members. They won't come into a video or conference and doesn't give an interview.
They won't attend any conference or reveal their KYC. Scam project generally copy paste others whitepaper. They provide no transparency on the amount of funds raised and keep on extending the funding period.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: zero714309 on May 28, 2019, 11:30:26 PM
If the team stop to communication and always lies about their plan in the future (listed in exchanger etc) in their community. From my experience good project always keep their promise and always open to their community about their plan or how far project going on.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: monineklutak on May 28, 2019, 11:39:23 PM
I think when they stop being enthusiastic about giving positive news and some optimism then I see that the project has deteriorated or started to lose direction but we cannot say that the project will die or fail because there are some who can rise after they fall


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: Litzki1990 on May 28, 2019, 11:41:51 PM
In my case i will always look at their content, planned of their project, the background of the team and if they have more followers from their social media and most of the time the scam project they allocating big allocation and sometimes they always extend their sale and that is probably scam project.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: lyks15 on May 28, 2019, 11:48:28 PM
On my own experienced I found out that I am already a fraud or scam victim when the time that project manager did not give any update to the project that you joined or invest and even the token or salary that you receive is already have no exchange site. I hope moderator will have something to do with that scam and I think regularizaion and legalization is the key to avoid that kind of problem.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: Shova on May 28, 2019, 11:49:30 PM
For me every crypto project is a scam unless I find a solid proof of experienced and well know people and companies are working behind it.
ICOs from well established companies, startup of popular persons and individuals with proper experience makes a good crypto project.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: Handsome Boy on May 28, 2019, 11:51:03 PM
At a point the team start given excuses to abide by what they promised to do or stop communicating with the community then I can sense the project is scam. How do you determine a project is gone bad and won't fulfil it promise? What criteria do you use ? or you wait for years thinking all will be well ?

I would say the project is scam if the project has not progressed and is not in accordance with the roadmap or whitepaper of the project, besides that the team from the project is not active in providing information about project development.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: 2tang on May 28, 2019, 11:57:33 PM
I can't determine it because sometimes there are some projects that are deliberately silent because there are some requests or something or even questions that can disturb them on telegrams or other social media platforms
therefore sometimes there are people who deliberately keep quiet but still try to run their projects in their own way and some of them finally succeed because of that I find it difficult to determine which ones are bad and which ones are good just because of that


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: smyslov on May 29, 2019, 12:09:54 AM
At a point the team start given excuses to abide by what they promised to do or stop communicating with the community then I can sense the project is scam. How do you determine a project is gone bad and won't fulfil it promise? What criteria do you use ? or you wait for years thinking all will be well ?

If they are trying to be anonymous and do not show sign of transparency we can easily figure out that they have a plan to scam investors, this is the reason why it's important to talk to them in their telegram channel and they must have a youtube channel to explain about their project.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: uneng on May 29, 2019, 01:07:00 AM
When I see they don't have support from social medias I tend to stay away because there are big chances it will fail. I mean when they have few followers, comments, views. Many of these projects don't have any consistency, they start full of expectations, but give up in the middle of the way, especially when they don't invest too much money on it or when the feedbacks and endorsements from community are less than expected.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: TIDOVEE on May 29, 2019, 01:24:50 AM
i have been a victim of those scam project, it is so annoying, waste of energy, time and resources. i struggled to with the project manager until the project totally became silent. some of those projects were not actually planned to be scam but inability to meet up with the set/ targeted cap, so they escape.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: iqlimasyadiqa on May 29, 2019, 01:33:47 AM
At a point the team start given excuses to abide by what they promised to do or stop communicating with the community then I can sense the project is scam. How do you determine a project is gone bad and won't fulfil it promise? What criteria do you use ? or you wait for years thinking all will be well ?
I always analyze as well as possible, I will collect various existing data. Scam projects usually start to be indicated with unclear data, so please ensure that we can make a good analysis so that we have the opportunity to be able to get success. Never be lazy to do analysis because when we do the wrong analysis we will get a failure.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: labilaab on May 29, 2019, 01:46:11 AM
At a point the team start given excuses to abide by what they promised to do or stop communicating with the community then I can sense the project is scam. How do you determine a project is gone bad and won't fulfil it promise? What criteria do you use ? or you wait for years thinking all will be well ?
Obviusly when there is no update to the project anymore in the telegram and in their mediums or means of social interacting sites.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: newgal2017 on May 29, 2019, 02:40:54 AM
No I won't wait for years if I haven't seen the team doing any progress no matter how small or big the progress, a progress is still a progress. Well if the project is a scam you'll probably experiencing these.

- Problem with the project
- Having an internal problem such as team members etc.
- Waiting for them to a bullish market
- No updates
- No progress
- No respond from any of them

Well there's a lot or most of them really are scams and frauds who really wants a profit and they didn't do it in a right way.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: pushups44 on May 29, 2019, 02:57:54 AM
At a point the team start given excuses to abide by what they promised to do or stop communicating with the community then I can sense the project is scam. How do you determine a project is gone bad and won't fulfil it promise? What criteria do you use ? or you wait for years thinking all will be well ?

There are many signs a project is a scam. Among them are fake profiles or claims of partnerships, a plagiarized whitepaper or other material, scamming bounty hunters, and the sudden disappearing of a social media presence or website.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: joshua123 on May 29, 2019, 03:21:11 AM
At a point the team start given excuses to abide by what they promised to do or stop communicating with the community then I can sense the project is scam. How do you determine a project is gone bad and won't fulfil it promise? What criteria do you use ? or you wait for years thinking all will be well ?

Honestly I hate the style of some project who are very active on their time of ICO and presale but when the time comes and the project must response already in the community. They are gone just like a wind, and not responded on every inquiry. Clearly this can be categorized as criteria for a scam. Dont ever joined campaign which lack active communication cause this is the bridge for investors and the project to see uptodate news on their project.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: antsam on May 29, 2019, 03:32:35 AM
ICO is always extended, communication on telegram accounts is always slow and quiet, minimal and even no updates on their social media. The market is not available for these tokens or coins, not on time according to the roadmap. I think if you have found the characteristics of a project like this it will end in a scam


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: CryptoBry on May 29, 2019, 03:43:30 AM
At a point the team start given excuses to abide by what they promised to do or stop communicating with the community then I can sense the project is scam. How do you determine a project is gone bad and won't fulfill it promise? What criteria do you use ? Or you wait for years thinking all will be well?

When accusations of frauds are starting to leak into forums and social media...that can mean to me that there can be something wrong. Now, a good project can still be accused of being fake but how the people behind it will respond can be telling us about its real intent. Usually, if there is smoke there is fire - may not be in all cases but most are. When a project is using fake profiles of its leaders then most likely it is a big scam. When the project is just plagiarizing content from other projects most likely the project is just another scam. In other words, when the project is not honest and is making so many shortcuts then mostly likely it will just fly with the money when the crowdfunding is over.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: michellee on May 29, 2019, 03:48:40 AM
The easy way to know or realize if a crypto project was scam or fraud is by knowing they are leaving the project without giving any information or they abandon the project. That will be a big sign for us that they are running with the investor's money and they never come back in the future. But if they start the project in the first time, it will difficult to know that if they will scam us or not, and we only know after it's running for a few weeks or months.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: ryan992 on May 29, 2019, 03:53:36 AM
Of course, you can immediately know that the said project was a scam or fraud by its unusual way of running it and its platforms are unclear just like its promises to its holders. You can also make a research about the project so you are about to get informed or be warned that your target project is just a scam so your time won't be wasted.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: Aalu on May 29, 2019, 04:32:09 AM
I come to know about a fake or scam project when I am scammed. It will be really difficult to know a project is a scam beforehand. Otherwise the people would not have been scammed out of millions of rupees and no regulation would be required. There is increasing incidents of scams and this peaks when price of coins is going up. Something should be done immediately to curb scams. 


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: joromz1226 on May 29, 2019, 04:35:30 AM
At a point the team start given excuses to abide by what they promised to do or stop communicating with the community then I can sense the project is scam. How do you determine a project is gone bad and won't fulfil it promise? What criteria do you use ? or you wait for years thinking all will be well ?

You will realize that the project is scam if they always hyped their community, then if they didn't fulfill their due date of the project. If the project give announcement to extend their ico more than twice, in that way that project for me was a scam they are doing something fishy and hiding to their community as well, and will not active to their telegram, neither in the forum too.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: Red-Apple on May 29, 2019, 04:59:43 AM
At a point the team start given excuses to abide by what they promised to do or stop communicating with the community then I can sense the project is scam.

by that time it is already too late!

my criteria is when a project has one of these:
1. a premine of any size. this can be actual obvious premine or shadow premines which they try to hide it which is even worse.
2. any type of fund raising including but not limited to ICOs, IEOs, STOs,... because any project that asks for money up front is planning to take the money and abandon the project without an exception.
3. lack of innovation. a new cryptocurrency needs to be stand alone, NOT a copy of another project and it has to have some new innovative features in it. if it is rehashing the same ideas then it is planning to fail and run away.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: Sacramentus on May 29, 2019, 05:03:43 AM
I do realize when I start seeing foul play from the team or no too much activity from them. Although no much activity isn't really that relevant as most project can actually be working without activities on their socials. But as you said, when they start giving too many excuses


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: Indrawan77 on May 29, 2019, 05:17:26 AM
Its important to detect the sign early don't wait until years and then you realise, at that point its already too late, the first thing to do is to read the whitepaper to see the roadmap and see how the progress match with the roadmap and then see does the roadmap make sense or not, then see their website, is it design professionally or not, last thing, keep on communicating with their team, asked a detail question, if they can't answer well, then its better to avoid the project, its either a scam project or a bad project


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: tonyvo2017 on May 29, 2019, 05:21:36 AM
At a point the team start given excuses to abide by what they promised to do or stop communicating with the community then I can sense the project is scam. How do you determine a project is gone bad and won't fulfil it promise? What criteria do you use ? or you wait for years thinking all will be well ?
most of such projects are now back. They really feel troublesome when investors always ask to pay tokens and so do bounty hunters. If the IEO did not start, I think those ICO projects were silent and kept our money.
Currently you only need to invest in IEO projects. those projects are moderated by exchange before deciding whether to support the project or not. ;)


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: mitchr4 on May 29, 2019, 05:28:15 AM
The ICO's reputation is currently very bad because of the widespread fraud. Don't easily believe how good the project is with no pay attention for the background of the project team. Abandoned projects, they are only active at the beginning of promoting the project so they can carry away the money from the sale.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: Pamadar on May 29, 2019, 05:38:15 AM
At a point the team start given excuses to abide by what they promised to do or stop communicating with the community then I can sense the project is scam. How do you determine a project is gone bad and won't fulfil it promise? What criteria do you use ? or you wait for years thinking all will be well ?

You will realize that the project is scam if they always hyped their community, then if they didn't fulfill their due date of the project. If the project give announcement to extend their ico more than twice, in that way that project for me was a scam they are doing something fishy and hiding to their community as well, and will not active to their telegram, neither in the forum too.
Project that keep giving promises but there's no realization from what they are doing, you have to be more selective and check the potentials,
there's always good things to happened when you fully analyze those projects to invest your money and your time.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: DainSLane on May 29, 2019, 06:11:03 AM
I realize if the crypto project is scam if they keep on promises to their supporters and did not fulfill their promises and they keep on excuses and most of the admins are not active in their social media because they already leave the project.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: coinporch on May 29, 2019, 07:18:04 AM
At a point the team start given excuses to abide by what they promised to do or stop communicating with the community then I can sense the project is scam. How do you determine a project is gone bad and won't fulfil it promise? What criteria do you use ? or you wait for years thinking all will be well ?

simple when the developments stopped and no active dev team in their forum, such as telegram group, or others
and for sure i will stay away from all project with no active development for very long time buddy


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: stigmacryptonight on May 29, 2019, 08:16:28 AM
If the project guarantees a profit, I think crypto doesn't need to be trusted in that. All prove that the project is useful in the community and that many people and products will also be needed. Don't just promise, because all profits are no guarantee unless the project develops and at a later price will follow. There later we will feel the benefits.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: Lan75 on May 29, 2019, 08:21:35 AM
If the project guarantees a profit, I think crypto doesn't need to be trusted in that. All prove that the project is useful in the community and that many people and products will also be needed. Don't just promise, because all profits are no guarantee unless the project develops and at a later price will follow. There later we will feel the benefits.
That's right, a legitimate project will blossom slowly with time and don't promise anything in return. It's up to the investors if they really trust the project and it's developer.

Red flag for me is that the legitimacy of the team that handles the project, they should be transparent enough.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: StaffDear on May 29, 2019, 08:39:55 AM
Before investing in ICO you need to make a good investigation.
Good projects have a clear whitepaper, not copy pasted from other projects. Often it is translated to several languages.

The team is very important in ICO. This information should be open on the website with their real photos and social media links, so you could check, whether it is a real person or just has been created for ICO.

Ask questions. The team should answer all your questions as soon as possible.

See whether they update the news. The members of ICO should know how the project is developing.

Read the feedbacks of other participants. But also check their profiles. The feedbacks can be written by one person that has many accounts.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: Kaneki11 on May 29, 2019, 09:48:25 AM
At a point the team start given excuses to abide by what they promised to do or stop communicating with the community then I can sense the project is scam. How do you determine a project is gone bad and won't fulfil it promise? What criteria do you use ? or you wait for years thinking all will be well ?
There are various ways to know if a project is scam... but I'll leave you just one tip... if they claim theyve raised millions of dollar.. but the coin is selling 100Ũ below price at exchange listing ... that means theyve raised no money and are definitely lieing


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: setialovers on May 29, 2019, 10:10:43 AM
At a point the team start given excuses to abide by what they promised to do or stop communicating with the community then I can sense the project is scam. How do you determine a project is gone bad and won't fulfil it promise? What criteria do you use ? or you wait for years thinking all will be well ?
There are various ways to know if a project is scam... but I'll leave you just one tip... if they claim theyve raised millions of dollar.. but the coin is selling 100Ũ below price at exchange listing ... that means theyve raised no money and are definitely lieing

Indeed, if their claim is right, i dont think holder will dump their token below ICO price. For long term investor, they are looking on the project in the future and i think when the price deep drop, i think investor already realize that developers team not reach their own target


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: Adriano2010 on May 29, 2019, 10:33:11 AM
I also think if they claim that get million of dollars and the coin is selling too low under the ICO sale then is a sign that is a scam or a project where team claim that has been hacked and the coins are dumped then is a scam.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: Amejoaquim on May 29, 2019, 10:49:00 AM
I also think if they claim that get million of dollars and the coin is selling too low under the ICO sale then is a sign that is a scam or a project where team claim that has been hacked and the coins are dumped then is a scam.
Yap you very right! If the team claim he get a million of dollars but they can't give proof (Contract address) to the investor then they absolutely scam, after the crowdsale they will sell their coin immediately and claim that has been hacked or something else.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: Felic43 on May 29, 2019, 11:11:12 AM
If someone really study well the whitepaper you will know most importantly check maybe the project have product they are selling .


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: Olatunjex on May 29, 2019, 11:34:54 AM
At a point the team start given excuses to abide by what they promised to do or stop communicating with the community then I can sense the project is scam. How do you determine a project is gone bad and won't fulfil it promise? What criteria do you use ? or you wait for years thinking all will be well ?
Do you mean the team are placing the community under some condition or the team stop communicating with the community, that is a redflag somehow, the community gave them fund without the community the project can not exist.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: ned.ryerson on May 29, 2019, 11:38:28 AM
If someone really study well the whitepaper you will know most importantly check maybe the project have product they are selling .
Now the projects have learned how to make very good whitepapers, so their study does not guarantee the success of the project. the main thing that is needed is a strong team and then any idea will be implemented


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: fathur01 on May 29, 2019, 11:55:54 AM
I believe that the development team should keep in constant touch with the community and report on their failures and how they are planned to deal with them. If developers do not engage in dialogue with the community, they will not receive any support and any failures will be perceived by a flurry of criticism. The project roadmap must be followed otherwise everyone will decide that your project is scam.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: elewton on May 29, 2019, 12:06:08 PM
I believe that the development team should keep in constant touch with the community and report on their failures and how they are planned to deal with them. If developers do not engage in dialogue with the community, they will not receive any support and any failures will be perceived by a flurry of criticism. The project roadmap must be followed otherwise everyone will decide that your project is scam.
Most projects after the call phase always have a quiet time and they don't regularly update many new news and that's how to confirm that project is scam. I think investing in these projects is really risky and you need to consider carefully when participating because the community can decide up to 70% of the success of the project and if no one works in media then stay away from that project


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: elitemobb on May 29, 2019, 12:20:29 PM
It's very easy to find out a fraudulent project. Not so difficult. Firstly, a project can promise you huge profits as well as listing on top exchanges. Secondly, such projects often give you huge bonuses for selling tokens at a loss as well as in their social networks. announcements.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: ven7net on May 29, 2019, 12:40:04 PM
Personally, I look at the fact that the team fulfills its conditions. As soon as the conditions are not observed, this is the first signal that the project has problems. Of course there are moments when something goes wrong and then the team still solves these problems and everything ends well. But let's be realistic, if you are going to launch the project and it has already passed some way, could you really make a mistake or a miscalculation? Not sure! Each project is launched with specific goals, some actually create a product and services, while others simply raise money for themselves. Unfortunately, fraudsters have learned how to disguise their projects perfectly and it is often difficult in the early stages to determine whether it is a hoax or not.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: max6575 on May 29, 2019, 12:43:19 PM
as drawing on chart gives with least on difference with beginning nominal on value and works with service delivery to put with worse on reference on users with the involvement on business with the company of developer.



Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: Ekyfitri on May 29, 2019, 01:00:00 PM
It's very easy to find out a fraudulent project. Not so difficult. Firstly, a project can promise you huge profits as well as listing on top exchanges. Secondly, such projects often give you huge bonuses for selling tokens at a loss as well as in their social networks. announcements.
it does not guarantee that the project is a scam. if you look at 2017, then you will see so many ICOs offering huge bonuses for their sales. but in reality they can still develop. but look at the current conditions. Wait, I'm very difficult to find a project scam.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: mackstuart on May 29, 2019, 01:03:48 PM
 At the first stage it is very difficult to distinguish a normal project from fraud, all have their own criteria differences, but the most important is to check the project team, check each of its participants, see if they have the technology, where their office is, that sort of thing!


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: HanaTenun on May 29, 2019, 01:42:09 PM
At the first stage it is very difficult to distinguish a normal project from fraud, all have their own criteria differences, but the most important is to check the project team, check each of its participants, see if they have the technology, where their office is, that sort of thing!
even though it seems convincing in our opinion sometimes those with perfect teams can also run away with our money. because I have participated in campaigns with good managers, even projects using escrow in sending all bounty participant payments. they send their coins but after the distribution is done, in fact they just leave the project. then what should we do?


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: $anounimus$ on May 29, 2019, 01:57:13 PM
I believe that the development team should keep in constant touch with the community and report on their failures and how they are planned to deal with them. If developers do not engage in dialogue with the community, they will not receive any support and any failures will be perceived by a flurry of criticism. The project roadmap must be followed otherwise everyone will decide that your project is scam.
well, developers and founders of projects should take part in discussing the development of the platform they are building, but many project founders are expelling themselves when they get money from investors, they run away as happened in some scam projects.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: Teknisi88 on May 29, 2019, 02:19:49 PM
Waiting for a long time will be boring because it is also uncertain that it will be okay, now it is very easy to see the scam criteria, namely by always seeing the updates provided by the team, if they do not care about the project we will not get the latest information.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: Korkorjkk on May 29, 2019, 04:27:45 PM
The moment the team doesn't respond to questions asked on their telegram page, you can easily sense something is wrong. Some of them too will take a long time before tokens are distributed. Others too will request that you send some money to their wallet before you receive their tokens..all these are signs of scam projects.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: maxreish on May 30, 2019, 06:04:23 AM
At a point the team start given excuses to abide by what they promised to do or stop communicating with the community then I can sense the project is scam. How do you determine a project is gone bad and won't fulfil it promise? What criteria do you use ? or you wait for years thinking all will be well ?

We can know if it is a good project or just a scam project by simply stalking the teams behind it. Mostly, they are just introducing fake teams which is very suspicious. Also, when it comes to the ICO, the team always postponing some events like token sales, token distributions, private sales, etc. We can spot the unsincere projects right away. They also been leaving their subordinates hanged and did not responses with all the queries.

How sad, but the truth is most of the projects nowadays is just being created to fund raised money and then run away with it.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: llecrf on May 30, 2019, 06:25:35 AM
Projects are good and not too difficult to predict because in the future developers sometimes leave the project halfway.
Therefore we must now know who the new project developer is by seeing team members and whitepapers to see good projects.
Right now we can see the IEO running well and this is a good investment method because the coins have been registered in crypto exchanges, but you need to look at the project details carefully before you invest in ICO or IEO


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: eagle10 on May 30, 2019, 06:44:43 AM
At a point the team start given excuses to abide by what they promised to do or stop communicating with the community then I can sense the project is scam. How do you determine a project is gone bad and won't fulfil it promise? What criteria do you use ? or you wait for years thinking all will be well ?
There are many ways to identify a project is a scam or not. I am first taking a look at the composition of its team. Are they the real team compose of experts in the field of blockchain and development? You can also check if there are many excuses the team is making to avoid any questions regarding the continuation of the bounty. Are you checking the whitepaper? Is it practical to meet the soft or hard cap for the project? Is the hard cap too much to reach the target goal of the team? It is up to you to research other reasons to say it is scam or not.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: el kaka22 on May 30, 2019, 06:46:55 AM
I don't trust anything enough to get fooled after it turns out to be a scam after the fact. I believe ALL projects are scams at first and I let everyone use the project and talk about it and like it or hate it and then I go in, so I use people as my shield, I put their money in danger and watch them react to it first. That is how I do not get scammed but its not a method that would work for everyone since if everyone acted like me then there wouldn't be anyone to try it.

I still suggest everyone instead of going into a project hoping you will be an early bird and make the most profit just let it get old, let it be whatever it is first and see how people react, only go into it after people say its a legit place. It has helped me so far in my life and I am sure it would help you as well.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: EdenHazard on May 30, 2019, 06:54:12 AM
At a point the team start given excuses to abide by what they promised to do or stop communicating with the community then I can sense the project is scam. How do you determine a project is gone bad and won't fulfil it promise? What criteria do you use ? or you wait for years thinking all will be well ?
Actually before I choose investing in an ICO project I'll find more about the project in several days, I'll not decide to spend my money when I feel this project will give me a huge profit but I don't like that. Find more about time is the first thing that I should done, after that the whitepaper and also I often to update on the scam accusations.

This is important for you guys when you didn't know the way to measure the project is legit or scam then you should enough to active on scam accusations board. Because there are many people who has a high skill to find the scam project and I believe this is will help many people. So, when I realize that the project is deserve to be an investing place or the project have an indicate to scam when I found an awkwardness when I research it and I am waiting for someone who has same perspective with me and he posted on scam accusations.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: Stanlo on May 30, 2019, 07:16:50 AM
The most common one is fake teams or fake advisors and there are some projects that have real teams but will be plague with lies after lies ,I could call it over promising investors what they can't achieve


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: jrrsparkles on May 30, 2019, 07:26:14 AM
At a point the team start given excuses to abide by what they promised to do or stop communicating with the community then I can sense the project is scam. How do you determine a project is gone bad and won't fulfil it promise? What criteria do you use ? or you wait for years thinking all will be well ?
No  response from the team after their sale period will make a strong suspicion on any projects and most of then it will be a scam project as well so if you got so much fast response before you investing your money but later there is no can be considered you went for the wrong project.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: MUG1WARA on May 30, 2019, 08:19:43 AM
First go to this section https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0
if indeed there is nothing about the project we will choose then we go to the telegram to see the community there, after that go see the website and whitepaper to see the team behind the project


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: Script3d on May 30, 2019, 08:51:06 AM
When the projects stops updating their social media after the token sale has ended, most of the time their social media will have a frequent update about their project or token sale, if your going to invest into coins just invest into STO's, it's way much safer and also regulated.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: akirasendo17 on May 30, 2019, 08:56:20 AM
better check it from its roots , who are at the back, if you see people with no connections in any crypto
group or should i say being active in any news then its one of the signs, second is the promise is too good to be true
promise millions in just a week or 2 is really a sign of scam so be very carefull


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: Smitt on May 30, 2019, 08:58:21 AM
Maybe if it goes according to schedule then we can find out whether the project is a scam or not, because many ico projects do not fit their schedule as well as teams buy time and are not active in group communication.  I often find criteria scam projects, but I avoid getting into their fake promises and maybe we should know in advance to research the project more.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: Iykecollins on May 30, 2019, 09:26:55 AM
It can be found in so many ways at so many exchanges, that a token is listed on coinmarketcap and exchanges does not mean they are not scam. Have had a lot of coins that were listed and they eventually exited by dumping a huge amount of their coin to almost a zero value on exchanges where they are listed and that ends it


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: Dacosta Osei-Tutu on May 30, 2019, 09:47:03 AM
It is very easy to identify these scam projects. Right after the ICO, the team become mute in their telegram group and start giving excuses that they are busy developing the project meanwhile they will not be bringing any updates.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: Iykecollinz on May 30, 2019, 10:28:36 AM
There are different stages to knowing when a project is known to be a scam, it depends on when the initiators decide to execute their plan but the most common of them all is though ICO sales where a lot is raised through ICO sales and never get listed or even when listed it is listed on on unpopular or less volume exchanges where they eventually dump lot part of their tokens on inspecting victims, any token that falls more than 300% of their ICO value immediately on listing are often in this category


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: GabbieBoy12 on May 30, 2019, 10:29:50 AM
If you were about to notice if the project was a fraud, first thing to do was make a research about the subjected project before joining. Because it can cause you a lot of losses if you join in the project without having a projects team checkin. If you want a project which leads a good future investment and have a good accessible I can recommend BTC ETH and specially the uprising of Pimon coin which is really good about of investing.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: Lizzylove1 on May 30, 2019, 10:37:51 AM
When the Github is no more update on the execution of road maps and team communicate less, it's time to call it before before they make the announcement themselves, if you allow team to make announcement themselves, it will be too brutal.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: Kezacky on May 30, 2019, 10:38:48 AM
actually this is what we need to consider before joining the ico project, but if we have joined the project then there is a problem with the team or project that we are following, I think we need to reconsider this. we have to make a decision by stopping following the project before our work ends in vain.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: SistaFista on May 30, 2019, 02:32:57 PM
At a point the team start given excuses to abide by what they promised to do or stop communicating with the community then I can sense the project is scam. How do you determine a project is gone bad and won't fulfil it promise? What criteria do you use ? or you wait for years thinking all will be well ?

If the team stop communicating with the community, it doesn't mean they are scam project.
Even the scam projects often keep communicating with community.
From now on, lets not invest in the project that we cannot verify whether it real or not.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: NeverSop on May 30, 2019, 02:46:00 PM
There is no interaction, update any news of the team / project to the community. Such projects are often vague about how they answer questions from the telegram group. Try to recognize them in an space. In addition, WP discrete and without professional evidence, checking or asking about the clarity of smartcontract (if they build on ETH) is also a way I often use to track teams.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: robelneo on May 30, 2019, 03:06:51 PM
At a point the team start given excuses to abide by what they promised to do or stop communicating with the community then I can sense the project is scam. How do you determine a project is gone bad and won't fulfil it promise? What criteria do you use ? or you wait for years thinking all will be well ?

When they are not transparent and keep changing their rules, of course, they have stipulated that they can change the rules anytime, but not to the point that the investors' and bounty hunters money and effort will go to waste, like what happens to IRONX,Likerworld and Dexage, they keep changing the rules to punish bounty hunters and traders.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: RDNX on May 30, 2019, 03:23:33 PM
At a point the team start given excuses to abide by what they promised to do or stop communicating with the community then I can sense the project is scam. How do you determine a project is gone bad and won't fulfil it promise? What criteria do you use ? or you wait for years thinking all will be well ?

I personally have my own standard in determining whether the project is a scam or not.
The main sign if the project will be a scam is they do not update the progress of their current project


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: Seth2009 on May 30, 2019, 03:25:01 PM
At a point the team start given excuses to abide by what they promised to do or stop communicating with the community then I can sense the project is scam. How do you determine a project is gone bad and won't fulfil it promise? What criteria do you use ? or you wait for years thinking all will be well ?
The right way to avoid scam is to know how to determine it... Maybe this will help...
-If a company website, whitepaper, or project descriptions are also full of nothing more than fluff, buzzwords, and portray a lack of substance, this is a clear warning sign that all may not be as it seems.
-Another classic warning sign that an ICO may not be everything it promises is also a return on investment (ROI) which seems too good to be true.
-If the blockchain startup has no links to samples or code uploaded to repositories such as GitHub, this may be an indicator that there is no blockchain development to start with.
-If you can't find any public records of individuals linked to an ICO that could, realistically, help develop a valuable blockchain product, they may simply be scammers looking to make a quick buck.
And yet,still the best way is to do research carefully regarding the project..


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: mamahdedeh on May 30, 2019, 03:28:52 PM
Actually it is very easy if we want to be careful in paying attention to every phase that the development team does. One sign that a project is scam then we can see from the promise of the development team that is not realized. This promise for example giving a bonus early, working on each timeline in a timely manner, and making weekly stake updates regularly. If this simple thing is not fulfilled, then we must be suspicious. As a responsible development team, it is appropriate to do everything in accordance with the plan and promise. That's a small thing in my view.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: delarossa on May 30, 2019, 04:08:31 PM
Usually I have to known that project is scam or not, I always view in the chat of their telegram group. If the group many respons and discussion about this project, I think that project will be good. And if you just meet the chat with only introduce like hello, hi etc. You will know that. This is one of many factor. More important, always check the completeness and clear purpose in whitepaper and their roadmap project.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: Payme21 on May 30, 2019, 04:21:05 PM
One of the key things to look out for is inability to implement structures based on the white paper. Another key indication is when unnecessary excuses are continuously being made. Inactivity of the forum can also be a good pointer.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: travwill on May 31, 2019, 02:57:57 PM
I am guided primarily by fulfilled promises. If the project follows its roadmap without any problems, without delay and fraud, then the project can be trusted.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: GregH37 on June 01, 2019, 06:02:01 AM
At a point the team start given excuses to abide by what they promised to do or stop communicating with the community then I can sense the project is scam. How do you determine a project is gone bad and won't fulfil it promise? What criteria do you use ? or you wait for years thinking all will be well ?
Most of the things You mentioned here are all the signs that a project is a scam project, it now depends on the level of patient that will make the participant accept it finally. For me, the moment I even see that the team is not transparent about their identity and if something looks fishy about their linked in page, then I just see them and a scam project which I avoid like plague.

I think the easiest way to know is when the project team stops communicating, but by that time, it would have been too late, investors would have dropped their money while hunter would have promoted the coin for long. We have to make sure it doesn’t get to that stage before discerning them by researching on them.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: levvv on June 01, 2019, 03:08:24 PM
At a point the team start given excuses to abide by what they promised to do or stop communicating with the community then I can sense the project is scam. How do you determine a project is gone bad and won't fulfil it promise? What criteria do you use ? or you wait for years thinking all will be well ?

When there is something wrong in that project, such as no milestone achievements, or too many delays.
At this point, im afraid to continue holding the the token. Better to sell it and change my investment.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: javainn on June 01, 2019, 03:10:00 PM
I realized when the project was completed and the team had no clarity on which exchange, when was the roadmap, when there was a development. if some of these things you never get, the project is a scam and should be avoided.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: asbak66 on June 01, 2019, 03:17:02 PM
If the team was gone and delete their telegram. No update from official Socmed like Facebook or Twitter, not giving us community the progress about the project.
Not answer questions from community etc.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: Nickz46 on June 01, 2019, 03:37:01 PM
 Not all projects in cryptocurrency is a scam or frauds you just not do research and reviews about the project so you have been scammed by those scammers ,and i only promote and go in the legit projects that can bring me a lot of investments and this project is the  Dencoin tokens.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: oemar bakrie on June 01, 2019, 03:45:22 PM
I see from the work of the team that began to stop providing information, And the worst thing on social media is that it cannot be accessed again, one of the characteristics of the project is to show fraud..


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: Fundalini on June 01, 2019, 03:56:46 PM
At a point the team start given excuses to abide by what they promised to do or stop communicating with the community then I can sense the project is scam. How do you determine a project is gone bad and won't fulfil it promise? What criteria do you use ? or you wait for years thinking all will be well ?
You can look at their github repository. If no new changes occurred within the past 2 months, the team is probably preparing for an exit scam. Also you can check random paragraphs in the net to check if the owner is legit and is not plagiarizing.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: uneng on June 01, 2019, 04:10:05 PM
I think the easiest way to know is when the project team stops communicating, but by that time, it would have been too late, investors would have dropped their money while hunter would have promoted the coin for long. We have to make sure it doesn’t get to that stage before discerning them by researching on them.
Usually it's too late, yes. When they stop communication the translations are already ready, social media campaigns are already running and people are already waiting to receive their first payments. It's very frustrating because there are many people working and they receive nothing for that.
It takes time to advertise and especially to make translations, it's a total lack of respect from these irresponsible developers.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: EL-NIDO on June 01, 2019, 04:20:25 PM
If there are no more updates and informations it is for me a clear sign of scam or fraud. Also when the project team is promising many things and nothing happened.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: gunhell16 on June 01, 2019, 04:23:54 PM
Their telegram was abandoned by the team and admin.
They are not answering any query on their page.
They just send all the tokens and leave the project alone.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: iMark on June 01, 2019, 04:28:17 PM
At a point the team start given excuses to abide by what they promised to do or stop communicating with the community then I can sense the project is scam. How do you determine a project is gone bad and won't fulfil it promise? What criteria do you use ? or you wait for years thinking all will be well ?
Actually there are a lot of signs they are becoming a scam, seen when their team starts rarely active, does not provide clarity on the future of their project, rarely responds to investor questions at ANN Thread, most of that signs are visible when the end of the time of ICO


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: IshuTheGamer on June 01, 2019, 04:32:17 PM
There are many factors which depict that a project is scam -

1) Their telegram gets abandoned or the admins leave the group
2) their websie stops working and the server goes down
3) The coins/tokens get transferered form the projects' address to an exchange to dump everything
4) They stop posting on their social media and stop goiving more updates.
5) Your questions do not get answered by the admins
6) BitcoinTalk stops getting replies and stops getting updated.

and much more, bsaically the team does not considers the project and do not work more , most probably the project dies.
If you try to talk to the team in linkedin then they do not reply your messages.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: 94K on June 01, 2019, 04:46:31 PM
Its quite difficult to realise a crypto project which is a scam or fraud however, there are some signs to pinpoint whether the project is scam. These are the inactiveness of the project and no progress of the project.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: Andrey13101991 on June 01, 2019, 05:03:57 PM
At a point the team start given excuses to abide by what they promised to do or stop communicating with the community then I can sense the project is scam. How do you determine a project is gone bad and won't fulfil it promise? What criteria do you use ? or you wait for years thinking all will be well ?
Actually there are a lot of signs they are becoming a scam, seen when their team starts rarely active, does not provide clarity on the future of their project, rarely responds to investor questions at ANN Thread, most of that signs are visible when the end of the time of ICO
There are such projects that even at the stage of an ICO have such signs. but there are also a lot of people who continue to believe in these projects))   :-\


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: Spider A4 on June 01, 2019, 05:15:24 PM
Telegram community is very important place in every project because investors and hunters both of can communicate through telegram. If your any concern they ignored or banned you than it's something suspicious and if they promised broken or delay to explore project update i think those type of enough to detect fraud or scam project.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: Tigerw on June 01, 2019, 05:32:03 PM
I am a member of many bounty companies and have repeatedly been deceived by unscrupulous people.  In most cases, I understand that the disappearance of the official groups of the company's telegrams, as well as the official websites of the company, is the real evidence of a fraudulent project.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: Nwaka20 on June 01, 2019, 08:43:05 PM
Personally, I observe the social media activities and Telegram community also. Scam projects always ban or delete criticism chats. I also check if they liedabout their partnerships cause some project will upload fake partners just to attract investors.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: seleme on June 01, 2019, 08:59:51 PM
Telegram community is very important place in every project because investors and hunters both of can communicate through telegram. If your any concern they ignored or banned you than it's something suspicious and if they promised broken or delay to explore project update i think those type of enough to detect fraud or scam project.
Reading useless questions is boring on various telegram broadcast channels but there is no another way around to clear all that doubts. New investors flow to the twitter and telegram with the meaningless, same type of questions that answered a thousand times.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: valuater on June 01, 2019, 09:39:21 PM
criteria that I use are usually based on roadmap if their roadmap is not implemented and always gives reasons behind it, I have been able to ensure that this project can be categorized as a fraud project, and also the one I meet most often is a team that is fictional. also, I was a little suspicious that it could be an indication of a fraud project, and finally the problem of token distribution most project scams usually send their tokens to addresses that do not have any transactions and after entering the exchange the volume is very alarming, it is also included in my list.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: sngwinner on June 01, 2019, 10:00:39 PM
Sometimes, it becomes so difficult to know if a project is a scam from the beginning since the team will look so dedicated to the project. However, it becomes quite obvious when the ICO is ended and the team is required to develop the project. Usually I sense danger through the nature of communication on  their telegram group. They begin to appear once within a month and they always give an excuse of working on exchanges, etc


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: irixo10 on June 01, 2019, 11:58:31 PM
Actually, you said it all and that the strategy they normally use, that is they are working on their product or they traveled for a submit or blockchain event etc, while abandoning or keeping the community in the dark.
When they starts coming up with unsubstantial excuses, just know something is about to go down, the truth is a team working hard won't hesitate to share their success with the community members thus motivating the community while bringing more investors.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: minttop on June 01, 2019, 11:59:56 PM
I realise it in a following way. They hide their faces, they don't answer all quastions about project and so on. For example they can sell team tokens before deadline


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: bgaf on June 02, 2019, 01:42:18 AM
At a point the team start given excuses to abide by what they promised to do or stop communicating with the community then I can sense the project is scam. How do you determine a project is gone bad and won't fulfil it promise? What criteria do you use ? or you wait for years thinking all will be well ?

Usually if the team can handle much effort to show or display theit product more than focusing on token sale I can sense the project is legit. Yes, scam projects only care about the sales of their ICO and when you ask something about the product or execution of their roadmap they tend to response vague or will tell you that they will answer later. This is something you as a hunter must know and sense if the team give thr community accepted feedbacks.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: arifteguhr on June 02, 2019, 01:56:47 AM
I realise it in a following way. They hide their faces, they don't answer all quastions about project and so on. For example they can sell team tokens before deadline
In this case, indeed, from the outset the making of the projeck had another purpose to deceive many people and in my opinion this would give a considerable loss. many people have avoided investment in the absence of transparency.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: Chomsy on June 02, 2019, 02:22:41 PM
As soon as different stories str coming up from the team other than the initial set road map for the project, no one need to tell you the project is turning to be scam. Another thing, some stop every communication with the community members leaving the group and all sort.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: pinoy.bolanon on June 02, 2019, 10:18:37 PM
At a point the team start given excuses to abide by what they promised to do or stop communicating with the community then I can sense the project is scam. How do you determine a project is gone bad and won't fulfil it promise? What criteria do you use ? or you wait for years thinking all will be well ?

Oh well, this happens to me a hundred times, being a bounty hunter, i experienced a lot, almost 80% of the project that i did became scams, a lot of excuses they had, most specially ATHERO project, i thought it was the best one, because it was my signature campaign before, the was not communicating after the successful token sale, and for me, its the worst situation that is hard to deal with.Scammers will have their time, not now but maybe later.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: spydee1522 on June 02, 2019, 10:42:01 PM
There are mostly more than enough ways to realize that. Such type of projects mostly fail to give updated version of how the project is going. Handling their social media handles become a headache because there is poor control, poor information to get members noted and also you can sometimes recognize that their leaders all have their profiles as new members on the various platform.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: kangkilokang on June 02, 2019, 10:46:45 PM
This is one of the most common lately. But I think not all scam. Because sometimes there may be some delays for certain reasons.
As a response to your question, I can not give a clear reply, but as experience increases, you are more alert.
not all fraud and not all bad, so there are still opportunities for us if we want to try to look carefully.
everything here is at risk and we must be able to take risks so we must be vigilant and you must be prepared in any situation.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: joromz1226 on June 02, 2019, 11:03:44 PM
At a point the team start given excuses to abide by what they promised to do or stop communicating with the community then I can sense the project is scam. How do you determine a project is gone bad and won't fulfil it promise? What criteria do you use ? or you wait for years thinking all will be well ?

In the first place, its so hard to determine or distinguish if the ico project is a scam or not. Because most of them they can able to show some fake achievements of their project even in the volume they raise during their campaign. Probably, to find out if it is fraud or not if the team behind are not transparent and and not giving any updates to their community through telegram or other social media they have.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: Chuky92 on June 02, 2019, 11:04:29 PM
That should be ones you go through the project on first sight. That's is, going through the project; starting from the team to know their experience in that field, then checking online to confirm them.
Then going through the whitepaper to see what they are offering and if it is unique and feasible.
Then checking the community to see how active they have been, I think this should guide properly into knowing good projects.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: rdewilde on June 02, 2019, 11:31:29 PM
Although most times it's hard to know, as some will pose real and will even present a good whitepaper, but I think that even at that there is need to check the team out thoroughly as well as the advisors to be sure they have the experience they claim to have.
Also, the objectives of the platform needs to be studied very well to be sure it is achievable and not hype. So I think if careful analysis is done at the onset it can be spotted if it's good project or not.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: Chikito on June 03, 2019, 05:48:41 AM
At a point the team start given excuses to abide by what they promised to do or stop communicating with the community then I can sense the project is scam. How do you determine a project is gone bad and won't fulfil it promise? What criteria do you use ? or you wait for years thinking all will be well ?
-When comunicate isn't conected by team, always inactive and offline without announcement anything 1 years.
-Team developing them project to become best future, when they won't able to do that, we have to ask what kind of future coin they want develop or just want our money.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: CASTIEL05 on June 03, 2019, 06:48:07 AM
Obviously if it doesn't have a product if its just a white paper you might think at first that it is very interesting. Secondly, if it have a high fund raising. Then, the most unfortunate in terms of payment. If they have a delay distribution of payment then forebode it because it will a promise that is everlasting.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: cafee_orange on June 03, 2019, 07:14:27 AM
I see the project really scam is from news updates about the progress of the project, and I also see from their activity in the group, the most important thing when seeing a project is their identity in detail, many projects that take their identity in a fake way and taking photos of other people on the internet as proof of that is a team.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: GregH37 on June 03, 2019, 09:27:50 AM
At a point the team start given excuses to abide by what they promised to do or stop communicating with the community then I can sense the project is scam. How do you determine a project is gone bad and won't fulfil it promise? What criteria do you use ? or you wait for years thinking all will be well ?

Honestly I hate the style of some project who are very active on their time of ICO and presale but when the time comes and the project must response already in the community. They are gone just like a wind, and not responded on every inquiry. Clearly this can be categorized as criteria for a scam. Dont ever joined campaign which lack active communication cause this is the bridge for investors and the project to see uptodate news on their project.
Why would they not be active when they are simply just after the money and not the project because they have nothing to really deliver and since the money raise is sometimes even more than what the project will give them as profit in 10 years even if they establish it, they will rather just walk away, which I still see as scam.

That is why I don’t like projects that quote too much hardcap for their project even if they claim they have a real life working product. Imagine a project quoting 20 million dollars and it’s not a well-known already established company yet, why would the developer stress in establishing it when the money is more than enough to leave a comfortable life.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: toast on June 03, 2019, 09:30:27 AM
Get aware of the existence of fraud when looking at prices when they are already in the exchange. most experienced a considerable decline. to be stable at the price of their offer, most of them fail and always go down with a considerable decline,the thing that happened more and more made me become suspicious of the fraud behind it


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: darkangel on June 03, 2019, 10:27:45 AM
At a point the team start given excuses to abide by what they promised to do or stop communicating with the community then I can sense the project is scam. How do you determine a project is gone bad and won't fulfil it promise? What criteria do you use ? or you wait for years thinking all will be well ?

When a team focuses more on ico sales and keeps introducing series of bonuses to lure investors instead of focusing on the product development and how to ensure it contributes to enhancing the technology and blockchain sphere


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: meldrio1 on June 03, 2019, 10:54:43 AM
Maybe no longer response from their telegram, keeps extending their running ICOs, no roadmap, lending platforms, anonymous team, giving high bonus for those who invest, that I can say scam project.  


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: babysweetTiger0401 on June 04, 2019, 12:44:24 PM
At a point the team start given excuses to abide by what they promised to do or stop communicating with the community then I can sense the project is scam. How do you determine a project is gone bad and won't fulfil it promise? What criteria do you use ? or you wait for years thinking all will be well ?

There are so many reason for find out if the project is scam, one these are if the team are not active to their social channel like in telegram, Facebook and twitter, then aside from this, hyping the community is their main tools for them to get potential investors and they've always saying promises to their supporters then if the WP is copied to other project.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: GabbieBoy12 on June 04, 2019, 12:54:10 PM
Its really hard to determined if the project eqs reak or not. Although most times it's hard to know as others will pose it like real and even present a good whitepaper. But I think that even they presented it so clearly you will still need to check the team out thoroughly as well as the advisors to be sure they have the experience they claim to have.
Also, the objectives of the platform needs to be studied and review it very well just to make sure it is achievable. So I think careful analysis is done at the onset so it can be spotted as a good project and not a fraud one. Because clearly nowadays there is really a lot of project that is scam. So only choose a project that can give yoy good profit by joining in to their projrcts like th dencoin tokens.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: shadowduck on June 04, 2019, 01:03:05 PM
Maybe no longer response from their telegram, keeps extending their running ICOs, no roadmap, lending platforms, anonymous team, giving high bonus for those who invest, that I can say scam project.  
for me, it becomes all clear when in Telegram the admin does not respond for few weeks or once a month he writes the phrase "have patience."


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: siorapokk on June 04, 2019, 06:23:30 PM
You can recognise a scam project on the team behaviour. If they cannot answer your questions, maybe unserious, postponing decisions and so on. Moreover, it is easy to recognise a scam project if you look at their whitepaper. Mostly they just copy-paste things.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: Prolifik on June 04, 2019, 06:37:52 PM
When I lose my money. I do not care why. If the token is not traded, or the platform is not created or everything is working but not using it.
Team should know what they will do before they collect some money.   :'(


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: mazdafunsun on June 04, 2019, 06:42:26 PM
One of the criteria is LinkedIn profiles. Especially the pictures, if they seem to have bad quality or without any background, there is a high probability that they are fake and thus the project is a complete scam.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: repear7 on June 04, 2019, 06:49:36 PM
In my opinion, deciding a project is really a scam or fraud is not easy. We must really ensure wisely. Indeed I have led to predict scam or fraud when the project does not fulfill its promise as stated earlier. Then the team running the project is not in accordance with the existing timeline. After that, the team did not communicate well to all partners. Project development was not delivered and all project media disappeared.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: Inosend on June 04, 2019, 07:03:53 PM
It depends on the observer. As for me I know starting from the websites, white paper and any other documents also I look at the team and look at their profiles on LinkedIn. Most team creates new account on LinkedIn and has no activities, I use that to figure out if the team is ream or not.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: ashaksagnis on June 05, 2019, 06:05:08 AM
i Usually try to figure out all about team members and check if they are real or not. There was some really funny projects with unrealistic goals .
anyone can say that it is a scam lol.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: Noilee on June 05, 2019, 12:00:07 PM
If the team stop to communication and always lies about their plan in the future (listed in exchanger etc) in their community. From my experience good project always keep their promise and always open to their community about their plan or how far project going on.
I agree, they always active, and they can reply every-time that have some questions to their members. Then if you notice they dont entertain or they ignore if what you asking, then you are to begin suspicious to them. Just notice or observe their projects well, because scam is not easy to find out. So if you realize that there is no something is good just leave it.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: Register13 on June 06, 2019, 03:23:01 PM
To determine whether the project was a fraud, you can basically know it by checking their project team details and on how they was running it. To avoid being scammed to some research about the project, do not get fancied by the projects good promises without checking it so well. Because as the cryptomarket grows, as well the scammer goes attack. So trust only a project like the Dencoin which integrated each participant that joining with their project was safe and good.




Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: darewaller on June 10, 2019, 07:58:12 AM
Obviously if it doesn't have a product if its just a white paper you might think at first that it is very interesting. Secondly, if it have a high fund raising. Then, the most unfortunate in terms of payment. If they have a delay distribution of payment then forebode it because it will a promise that is everlasting.
This one is when the damaged has already been done to investors, I would not even wait for that long to determine if a project is scam or not, I won’t even give them the chance to take my money or my time.

What I usually do first is to thoroughly research on the project before even participating in the campaign, and before the research, I use some to sites that are dedicated to getting solid projects as they claim, and they pick some projects there for further research, this is how I have been able to avoid this scam projects from investing and also doing their bounty. I don’t just go for any project that is not already verified for further research.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: tins on June 10, 2019, 09:59:25 AM
At a point the team start given excuses to abide by what they promised to do or stop communicating with the community then I can sense the project is scam. How do you determine a project is gone bad and won't fulfil it promise? What criteria do you use ? or you wait for years thinking all will be well ?

When a team focuses more on ico sales and keeps introducing series of bonuses to lure investors instead of focusing on the product development and how to ensure it contributes to enhancing the technology and blockchain sphere

I think it's not about scams, because the project team consists of many people, they split up into groups like product development, marketing groups, support groups, ...


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: airdagon on June 10, 2019, 10:24:51 AM
My criteria is almost the same as yours, there is no communication with Kkmunitas that is one of the characteristics of the project that will be a scam, and also there is no progress for the future


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: Stake13 on June 10, 2019, 10:57:25 AM
I can say realizing if the crypto project basically can't show and can't provide you a good investment. One more thing to consider was you can definitely knows it by checking their project team details and on how they was running their project. So to avoid being scammed, make sure you arr making a step and make a skillful research about the project, try not to get fancied by the projects good promises without checking it so well. Because as the cryptomarket grows, its their moment also to arise tricking people in the marketolace. So trust only a project like the Dencoin tokens which integrated each participant that joining with their project was safe and good, and they can make a great potential for the investors to make a good investments.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: fortunecrypto on June 10, 2019, 01:11:34 PM
At a point the team start given excuses to abide by what they promised to do or stop communicating with the community then I can sense the project is scam. How do you determine a project is gone bad and won't fulfil it promise? What criteria do you use ? or you wait for years thinking all will be well ?

It should be before you start promoting or investing in the ICO, you can check the scam section for a report, in the scam section there are tools that you can use to trace these scammers, it's not easy but it's worth it because it will save you time and money and you can share your findings to all of us here.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: rachman mahesa on June 10, 2019, 02:20:52 PM
When there are no more requests and in each market there is no volume. With that, it is confirmed that sooner or later the crypto project will die. Because it can't compete with other projects. The crypto project is dead, of course they have no new breakthrough in the project and its development will die.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: john alex young on July 22, 2019, 09:47:47 AM
At a point the team start given excuses to abide by what they promised to do or stop communicating with the community then I can sense the project is scam. How do you determine a project is gone bad and won't fulfil it promise? What criteria do you use ? or you wait for years thinking all will be well ?
I have not yet known more clearly about a project that culminated in a scam. However, as long as I participated in the bounty, I realized when the discussion in the bounty telegram group that I participated in. Therefore, this forum is very important for me to learn more about cryptocurrency.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: farraddy on July 22, 2019, 10:39:14 AM
I've come across with the Scam projects of course. For bounty hunter the first signal of fraud can serve as a closing spreadsheet and the lack of specificity in the reports of the moderator.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: abeecrypto on July 22, 2019, 10:43:39 AM
It is pretty hard sometimes. But when the project team stops communicating with the community, I start sensing scam.  My  first throw off is when the whitepaper isn't well written, road map obviously not looking viable and project team not verifiable, However, all this factors might not indicate a bad or scam roject. But my number one indicators are bad whitepaper and no project team verification.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: kramat on July 22, 2019, 10:50:05 AM
When there are no more requests and in each market there is no volume. With that, it is confirmed that sooner or later the crypto project will die. Because it can't compete with other projects. The crypto project is dead, of course they have no new breakthrough in the project and its development will die.

I think you are discussing a project that has been registered in exchange, what if they are still in the promotion stage? do we also have to wait for them to be in the market to find out they are scam or not !!!


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: sorrros on July 22, 2019, 10:56:40 AM
In most cases you will realize after you lose everything, so you do not have much to do with that.
There is no prevention, many teams are promising and promising and then suddenly changed their mind and leave the project.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: Shymko on July 22, 2019, 11:38:38 AM
I've come across with the Scam projects of course. For bounty hunter the first signal of fraud can serve as a closing spreadsheet and the lack of specificity in the reports of the moderator.
With me if that project scam. surely they will never distribute bonuses. Or distribution delay, Obviously they do not want to pay bounty hunters. I have met many such projects in the past 2 years


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: Jaggi90 on July 22, 2019, 11:41:06 AM
When all the transactions are stopped by the exchange and no notice is given for such deed , I assume that project to be fake. I have been in loss so many times , so I invest very carefully.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: ParabellumLite on July 22, 2019, 11:45:51 AM
At a point the team start given excuses to abide by what they promised to do or stop communicating with the community then I can sense the project is scam. How do you determine a project is gone bad and won't fulfil it promise? What criteria do you use ? or you wait for years thinking all will be well ?

They gradually do not answer questions that they do not have answers to. And gradually the project support on telegram no longer works. Facebook and Twitter channels stop posting new articles


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: Tsubachuchu on July 22, 2019, 11:50:30 AM
Some of the projects in cryptocurrency is a scam  you just needed do search and reviews about the project so you have been scammed by those scammers ,and i only promote and go in the legit projects that can bring me a good income through the year, to support my financial in day to day trading.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: Dellosoft on July 22, 2019, 11:51:39 AM
When the team stops giving updates to the community for so long, that's a sign that something is not right with the project. For instance I'm holding CNC Economic token since last year, initially the team gives updates in hours, after token sale they went silent and if you ask about listing, they ban you from the group.  


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: Novatech8 on July 22, 2019, 12:07:30 PM
Projects that delay development aren't serious with their project,they have no reason to delay the progress for a long time and some that are scam are just waiting for an excuse to exit scam with investors money,the moment you stop receiving updates on projects social channels this means they might not be who you think they are


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: Garrygold on July 22, 2019, 12:21:13 PM
I just realized today that the scum project , in which I took part , namely making a video review of the bounty Winstars company, appealed to Mr. Andrei Zaitsev , that he helped me to make a swap of tokens, to which he insulted me and acted obscenely in a rude manner. So a person who does not know how to communicate , can not lead the project. This is pure Scam.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: HK88 on July 22, 2019, 01:04:16 PM
I will realize that if their project starts quiet, I mean the team no longer cares about the project / is not active in telegram connections / is very slow in managing the responses of the participants. there I began to suspect whether the project would fail.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: dat.ho12492 on July 22, 2019, 01:26:38 PM
I've come across with the Scam projects of course. For bounty hunter the first signal of fraud can serve as a closing spreadsheet and the lack of specificity in the reports of the moderator.
With me if that project scam. surely they will never distribute bonuses. Or distribution delay, Obviously they do not want to pay bounty hunters. I have met many such projects in the past 2 years
What you say is really a sign of the fraud of projects but worse and more sophisticated, many phishing projects still pay full tokens and bonus distribution, the hunters still get rewards through bounty but the most obnoxious issue that people always face is the promise of projects, they always promise to list and have new plans but once after that many times. Since then, the project has died over time, this is something I recognize from scam projects, they never have a fix on listing, they just talk for fun instead of doing it.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: anggaem on July 22, 2019, 01:33:46 PM
At a point the team start given excuses to abide by what they promised to do or stop communicating with the community then I can sense the project is scam. How do you determine a project is gone bad and won't fulfil it promise? What criteria do you use ? or you wait for years thinking all will be well ?
I rate scam projects from demand made on the market, I think every project that does not make investors interested will exit scam.
and also the plagiarism whitepaper, I think the project that did that was confirmed to be a scam.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: Sab11 on July 22, 2019, 01:41:49 PM
At a point the team start given excuses to abide by what they promised to do or stop communicating with the community then I can sense the project is scam. How do you determine a project is gone bad and won't fulfil it promise? What criteria do you use ? or you wait for years thinking all will be well ?
for me i will always check the team identity their background about crypto, project development, quality of the whitepaper and their community, that's criteria i use to bounty project so my effort will become worth it and not just go to waste.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: #Darren on July 22, 2019, 01:45:26 PM
It can be clearly seen after several months of trading. Some teams are just giving up on development after a successful token sale and do not care about the current price, product or community. If a coin does not move for several months, it is a bad sign.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: izanagi narukami on July 22, 2019, 01:47:29 PM
That's what I'm afraid when I try to join new crypto project especially altcoin.
Usually I only interest when I can join workshop at my place or the project is local so I can inspect more easily so I can determine what should I decide.

At least it minimalize the risk rather than nothing,right ?


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: kampretuser on July 22, 2019, 01:55:23 PM
Based on my experience, the characteristics of a scam project are usually when the team does not develop their project and lack of marketing both online and offline. Then if they shut down the website and their social media i think it's clear if the project is a scam.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: bubislav on July 22, 2019, 02:02:10 PM
What l mean that first, you must get about the projet some information. l suggest you best projects such as ETH, BTC, etc. For example, you were holding for ages, but there is no progress, don't keep holding it. l advise to sell it. Overall it doesn't seem useful. It is no exaggeration to say that, such this project is misleading and is not rewarding.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: kaseygriffin on July 22, 2019, 11:43:38 PM
At a point the team start given excuses to abide by what they promised to do or stop communicating with the community then I can sense the project is scam. How do you determine a project is gone bad and won't fulfil it promise? What criteria do you use ? or you wait for years thinking all will be well ?
If a project starts to show signs of fraud, they will abandon investors and questions on their telegram channel. they will not distribution on time or to dealine to distribution the bounty without a notice for the return date. there is even a project that offers thousands of reasons to cut down on the amount of bounty hunter payouts. I had a project after the end of the bounty, the amount I received was only one-twentieth the amount I deserved.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: shooleh on July 22, 2019, 11:53:11 PM
The scam project doesn't have a clear concept and the website has a bad look. Don't be easily tempted by the enormous allocation of funds. Do a re-check especially on the Roadmap. It should work well with road maps and if not you need to be vigilant.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: 94K on July 29, 2019, 06:04:44 PM
Sometimes its quite difficult to detect a scam or fraud. The project may look authentic but may be scam. If background check isn't done well. I think scam projects have never had clear prospects and goals. They may even offer huge allocation of funds just to lure investors into the project.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: Krabby on July 29, 2019, 06:06:25 PM
I always depend on the telegram group, or at least I check on the thread bounties. if there is no response at all from the bounty manager, I think the project is dead.
And what will happen if the project doesn't have a bounty? You check the project is really funny, You should read the white paper and check the project more carefully to give a valid comment


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: Chicky213 on July 29, 2019, 06:39:40 PM
If any project want to exit scam the activities of the social media will reduce and the Community Managers will reduce the way they update news and most times appear rude. Such projects hardly have working products.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: thesmallgod on July 29, 2019, 07:46:18 PM
From my own experience, you will start to notice the team do not provide update again on any of their social media pages. On telegram, the team will start ignoring some sensitive questions. Or give repeating answers on and on again. When you check on some of them you will realize they are not as active as they are before on telegram and finally you can confirm that you have been scam when suddenly their  official telegram page is deleted on name change to meaningless words. I have also seen where team joke and make fun of investors after scamming them


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: jvdp on July 29, 2019, 07:48:56 PM
Sometimes it is enough for me to read reviews or just documentation about a project.  This is his face.  The more transparent it is, the more likely it is that the project has a product and further growth.  Otherwise, he is just dead.

When you read their white paper at the time itself you can understand this project work is really helpful for the future crypto industry. If you find a such a project then you can close your eyes invest on that ICO.
Never get into IEO alone for good returns. Most of the people from trading only goes to IEO investment.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: Moshaid on July 29, 2019, 07:54:18 PM
Firstly, some involves in continuous sale after ending the main sale which they first stated they will have. Then the team starts going offline for days or hours unlike the way they reply before the sale. Also some indulges in copying other whitepaper with no use case and if they start promising huge exchange lisitng before the sale shows how unreal they are.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: Ifychuks on July 29, 2019, 08:12:17 PM
Once the communication between the project team and community members change to an ugly dimension or seem not the way it used to be, just watch, that project has another thing coming. Most scam projects seem nice at the beginning, through to their sales or fundraising but once that is done, there's a different tone.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: renault18turbo on July 29, 2019, 08:41:14 PM
Do you really think that there is a way to determine for 100% which project is a scam and which is not? Sometimes a very good and strong project can become the worse scam you ever saw


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: fvb on July 29, 2019, 09:36:30 PM
At a point the team start given excuses to abide by what they promised to do or stop communicating with the community then I can sense the project is scam. How do you determine a project is gone bad and won't fulfil it promise? What criteria do you use ? or you wait for years thinking all will be well ?
There are many criteria for analyzing and comparing projects, when you begin to seriously study all the nuances, then basically you immediately see what the platform is and what its success is in the future. It is equally important, what goals the creators pursue and how much they are involved, in the development of their ideas.  Because some projects simply copy others for enrichment and usually this is immediately apparent.  When you begin to read documents, for example, to write an article, you begin to understand where all this will lead.  Sometimes you just wonder and think that's it?


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: Razerglass on July 29, 2019, 10:20:03 PM
After making proper research I can understand the fraud possibility of any project. It is not easy nor hard to explain this but it is called experience, generally. Before the ICOs, there were unusual projects but after the discovery period, the ICO period scam projects spread in the online places. If a team doesn't apply the new updates to the project, I call this project scam. Experience is not a gift, everyone should go and take it.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: konflikkastil on July 29, 2019, 10:28:18 PM
I predict project will scam when team continues to promise but can't keep it for months and price in market will continue to fall ... they promise and buy time just to benefit from some people


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: aemma on July 29, 2019, 10:51:40 PM
You are right with what you stated. When a project that had a successful sale starts giving excuses why they are yet to launch a reasonable service or product then something is wrong. There are many projects last year with that excuses and the funny thing is, till now they are yet to update the community on what they have actually achieved all this while.
A good project will always update its community with their progress while showing products and services achieved not giving excuses.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: ufaiz50 on July 29, 2019, 10:53:08 PM
At a point the team start given excuses to abide by what they promised to do or stop communicating with the community then I can sense the project is scam. How do you determine a project is gone bad and won't fulfil it promise? What criteria do you use ? or you wait for years thinking all will be well ?
I doubt the project specification, first because I often read the whitepaper project so if there is a project that the whitepaper is weird it might be a scam. Then there is no detail like just who the developer and how much their investment (incongruity) might be scam. If the project often delays or is not in accordance with the roadmap schedule or other things that are determined, for me it is a scam because there are no good competencies in the project.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: gangem07 on July 30, 2019, 09:01:50 PM
It is hard to determine in the first place.Sometimes they have  a good team,whitepaper and roadmap and sometimes also crypto project become scam is the team behind it they cannot communicate with the community.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: Mianae on July 30, 2019, 09:55:16 PM
When the internal team stops every link of communication with the community, secondly when there's a huge token withdrawal from the smart contract to exchanges for  exit dump.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: GeorgeMichael-III on July 30, 2019, 09:56:58 PM
When there's scarce info about the team, huge locked up supply held off for the team, no vesting arrangement, whitepaper filled with buzzwords..


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: waichi on July 30, 2019, 10:00:34 PM
Waiting for years for that project to fulfill its promise is not advisable because that is too long. You can detect right away a project if it is a scam when you have waited for a few months then they haven't delivered what they have promised. That sounds fishy already. Most of them are gone and cannot be contacted anymore via telegram or anything.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: key4co.in on July 30, 2019, 11:00:02 PM
When the team stops giving updates for very long, then there is problem with the project. Also, when they keep promising listing for quite a very very long time without listing, then there is problem. Also, when a project start removing anyone who asks questions in their group regarding development, there is something going wrong. Then finally when all buy others clear off and leaving very huge sell orders, probably the team members are selling off. All these are red alerts.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: retnoanjani on July 30, 2019, 11:01:41 PM
Fake projects can be determined even at the beginning of your viewing, no need to wait for months. Try analyzing the team through the social media they have. Fake accounts are very easy to detect through their activities, whether new or old accounts. You can also check their website through who.is to identify their truth. Hopefully, the article How to Identify Cryptocurrency Scams (https://medium.com/@Peter_UXer/how-to-identify-cryptocurrency-scams-813c32816ddf) can help


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: hahahafr on July 30, 2019, 11:34:37 PM
There are some few tricks that you can see when crypto projects especially the recent numerous ICOs that were launched especially in 2017. Most of them have died  and some of the few things that you see is when their telegram community becomes dormant and also the team fails to update their community with any more information. Actually all their social channels also become dormant too and you don't see any further progress with the development of the project.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: Youghoor on July 30, 2019, 11:44:40 PM
In order to identify whether a crypto project is a scam or not, you need to first check the team members and the road map of the project. Scam projects do not have realistic road map. Their road map do not show pattern in relation to the possible outline of the project and specific targets needed to be achieved within a specific time range.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: iTradeChips on July 30, 2019, 11:58:44 PM
Luckily the only experience I had with that one is through those airdrop campaigns where in they give you some amount of coins and then you will somewhat wait for that coin to increase in value. That actually happened and the coin did increased in value and I sold those coins but in a matter of hours the coin suddenly dropped value and many people who invested in the coin were scammed because the owner of the campaign suddenly became unreachable. Sad.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: tanjiran on July 31, 2019, 12:13:56 AM
For me, the bounty project was very full of surprises. Some of them initially looked professional and promising, but apparently did not provide rewards according to the initial agreement. There are also those who look ordinary but some time later there is a drastic increase. And that's unpredictable when it's time. So now I prefer a bounty that has a working product and is ready on the exchange.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: AlaEhBTC on July 31, 2019, 01:35:05 AM
After the campaign all the manager and the team will vanished and with no rewards to give. That is the time that I realize that a project is a scam or fraud.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: Deallove9 on July 31, 2019, 03:44:17 AM
Crypto market is a great technology which has come to put an end to poverty and centralized system that we used to know , but many has turn it to scam and avenue to get rich on time but it think they will soon learn their lesson as major newbies will know what and how to hand their program when ever they wish to invest except those that were taught in a wrong way


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: cichaescut on August 01, 2019, 11:00:03 AM
I realise such things on two factors. First of all, if you read the whitepaper, and it contains less than 20 pages, I have seen projects that wanted to collect 50 million with 5 pages written in the whitepaper including the roadmap. Secondly, the team behaviour before the launch, if buyback takes place, more marketing campaigns, trading competitions and so on.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: safem on August 01, 2019, 12:09:25 PM
The way to discover whether a crypto project is a scam or fraud varies. In my own observation, most of the times that I have discovered that a crypto project was a scam is when I noticed that their functions and activities in social media have stopped. The project team will stop posting any of their project activities and operations. In most cases, their telegram and twitter handle become inactive. The twitter account of the project can suddenly disappear. In another instance, I noticed that a project I participated in sometimes ago was a scam when they were given me stakes in their signature campaign without me making any post for them. Others might not even give stakes after participating in their campaigns. Hence, one can deduce they are scams. 


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: ali115112 on August 01, 2019, 12:48:14 PM
First of all, you should research all the social links and whitepaper of the company after that if you feel the team is not serious to launch in exchanges or launching in unknown exchanges that is the point to scam with investors.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: btcmegastar on August 01, 2019, 12:59:23 PM
I have discovered one thing from the companies based on the progress about the listing and their developments. If they keep dragging the things like developments, listing, AMA sessions etc. These things we need to get accurate updates from the team otherwise, we should consider it as a scam.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: Xalata on August 01, 2019, 02:19:54 PM
When I see that the team members are not responding to messages in the group and people are posting messages in the group without being banned. Then there is no doubt the project is a scam project.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: Marnihughes82 on August 01, 2019, 03:13:19 PM
When they did not follow the plan they had originally planned, they only promised and promised. They tried to give the coin, but no one knew and then let the community decide its value


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: icekohl on August 01, 2019, 05:32:36 PM
At a point the team start given excuses to abide by what they promised to do or stop communicating with the community then I can sense the project is scam. How do you determine a project is gone bad and won't fulfil it promise? What criteria do you use ? or you wait for years thinking all will be well ?
You only need to observe their community. If there is no interaction between members, technical updates, roadmap update regularly, or they just update their bonus or token sale, it is certainly a suspicious project.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: key4co.in on August 02, 2019, 06:20:10 PM
If you discover many loopholes with a project and still decide to wait for years hoping for the best, then apparently you are not a wise investor.  Once the team do not follow roadmap at all, stop any form of project  development updates, give deaf ears to the community, stop being active for long as can be seen from their social media handles or telegram group, set very huge sell orders at very low prices or even clear all buy orders, then it's a red flag.  What I normally do when I stop all these is dump and move on. 


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: terencio on August 02, 2019, 07:00:21 PM

I do realize when they becoming inactive in their medium of communications and no response from your queries. No update about the roadmap that they promised to their investors.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: aioc on August 03, 2019, 02:39:54 PM
At a point the team start given excuses to abide by what they promised to do or stop communicating with the community then I can sense the project is scam. How do you determine a project is gone bad and won't fulfil it promise? What criteria do you use ? or you wait for years thinking all will be well ?

It is a fraud right away if they are faking their platform, their whitepaper and the composition of their team, some of the scam ICO that are caught are faking their team by doing photoshopped of other people and announcing that they are part of the team, when they are not, another thing is when they copy their whitepaper from an existing project.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: ra_pl on August 03, 2019, 03:57:10 PM
Sometimes you can tell from the middle of listing. Volume,  traders and investors loosing interest. Sometimes it seems very perfect to the end, i guess you just find to do a thoroughly research.
 


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: btcholder on August 03, 2019, 08:31:49 PM
At a point the team start given excuses to abide by what they promised to do or stop communicating with the community then I can sense the project is scam. How do you determine a project is gone bad and won't fulfil it promise? What criteria do you use ? or you wait for years thinking all will be well ?

For scam project there is no hope that you could say yourself all will be well. they just got your money which is not gonna back to you. There is not special thing that you understand very soon because they are just already planed to cheat you. but yeas first they seems like very helpful but after they stop commiunicating to you, never replay to your question, not gonna active in social media, inactive in telegram, change survival time their ICO/IEO/STO date, fake promisses to you, not proffesional for any kinda job and so on.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: Mahanton on August 03, 2019, 08:34:31 PM
At a point the team start given excuses to abide by what they promised to do or stop communicating with the community then I can sense the project is scam. How do you determine a project is gone bad and won't fulfil it promise? What criteria do you use ? or you wait for years thinking all will be well ?

For scam project there is no hope that you could say yourself all will be well. they just got your money which is not gonna back to you. There is not special thing that you understand very soon because they are just already planed to cheat you. but yeas first they seems like very helpful but after they stop commiunicating to you, never replay to your question, not gonna active in social media, inactive in telegram, change survival time their ICO/IEO/STO date, fake promisses to you, not proffesional for any kinda job and so on.
Normal thing for you to experienced on the earliest time as possible where you do get active responses from the team but after the sale then they dont care about you anymore.Realizing if the project is scam or not at first is really a tough job yet you wont able to know if they do have that motive on the first place or not.
We cant detect 100% scam projects when they are starting yet no matter how you research you would still have the chance on getting victimized.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: dearbesz1219 on August 03, 2019, 08:59:15 PM
As soon as I didnīt get paid from bounty campaign.
As soon as I canīt sell my tokens because there is no exchange.
As soon as I see a big dump caused by team,


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: PuertoLibre on August 03, 2019, 09:02:44 PM
As soon as I didnīt get paid from bounty campaign.
As soon as I canīt sell my tokens because there is no exchange.
As soon as I see a big dump caused by team,
The bounty campaigns have no relation with determining the legitimacy of the project.  It is a promotional reward by the team for increasing awareness in the crypto space. The big dump is impossible if there is no exchange which doesn't accept scam projects. Big dumps not always cause a decrease in the value of the project, sometimes investors wait for such moments in order to increase their altcoins stash. I can count up to the 10 projects which investors preferred to wait for the listing on the next exchange than buying in the token sale.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: Mila52 on August 03, 2019, 09:07:10 PM
Even a thorough analysis of the team and the White Paper will not save you from a scammer's project. Some scammers prepare all the documents in haste, and you understood that  instantly , and there are scammers who prepare everything carefully and collect good investments and only after a few months disappear with the money. For me usually the main indicator of the scam project is the lack of updates in social networks and the telegram group.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: lolgato1 on August 03, 2019, 09:15:40 PM
When? Simply when I loose my money, no matter how or why.
If I invest and my investment going to 0, who made a mistake? I because I invested into a scam.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: thiscomm on August 04, 2019, 01:27:49 PM
I always see how the project makes a planning of their project. because that's where we can conclude that the project will be able to complete their targets. when the project runs we accompany and always see how their work process if it exceeds the target date per current date, it means the team of the project is not serious. and consequently will be a fraud or scam project.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: carrie_white on August 04, 2019, 04:12:31 PM
I often experience and see ICO programs that end in scams or fraud, starting with the signs that the ico program developer has rarely appeared in the community, rarely responded to questions from members, or even completely disappeared and did not reply. then the ico program continues to be extended for no apparent reason, if this happens, it can be said that 80% of the program is scam or fraud


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: Inkdatar on August 04, 2019, 04:33:21 PM
If there is no update to their project through social media and there is no communication to investors or the community. I usually say that the project is a scam (but not completely) until the time comes when the project is really a scam for the reasons above.
You must doubt if no updates about their project through social media indeed. We should have the effort to search a crypto project in the end were the ones will loss our money. Many people suffered of scam in crypto so a must to do some research before investing.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: chocopapaya on August 04, 2019, 04:41:53 PM
Waiting years is certainly foolish.
And also being impatient and crying SCAM! because it's not going at a fast pace is just as bad.

The thing is, if it is a straight up scam, you probably won't know until after you got ripped off.
Most of the projects people say are scams are really just businesses that go bankrupt.
This can be due to bad product, lack of experience, market conditions etc.

For those, you really need think hard about your financial goals.
Are you willing to let your money sit in a project for a long time even thought its going nowhere?


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: Lance203sin on August 04, 2019, 04:43:14 PM
When development of the project is stopped. Thats a main red flag. Dead social networks without updates too


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: minersday on August 05, 2019, 10:14:52 PM
Scam projects usually do not have enough information regarding the progress and future plans of the project. They do not address any realistic problems in the crypto space and the entire world in general.  They usually have fake statistics regarding what the project seems to address and usually have fake teams.  The best way to identify scam projects is by reading their whitepaper into details...


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: kalstarzz on August 05, 2019, 11:41:10 PM
unfortunately I am very weak to know a scam project or not, I only realized a scam project when I did not get anything from what I was doing, other than that I found out from other people both in the ann project or their ann bounty.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: Dpat on August 09, 2019, 04:14:40 PM
When the project is not listed in the exchange and the it has not listed for the more than 1 year or more I think the project is a scammer. But, again if the project already followed all the steps of the market from the distribution of the token to the listing of the exchanges even we say that the project is a scammer because after listing of the coin token or the coin the price is not justify to the market. The value of the coin traded thousandth of times bellow of its initial price.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: Gab20 on August 09, 2019, 10:15:29 PM
At a point the team start given excuses to abide by what they promised to do or stop communicating with the community then I can sense the project is scam. How do you determine a project is gone bad and won't fulfil it promise? What criteria do you use ? or you wait for years thinking all will be well ?
You should have known this right from the start, if you do the necessary research. After carrying out the research I should on a project and I am skeptical about it, I will not give it a second thought, but will discard it.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: kevinzxz on August 09, 2019, 11:20:02 PM
At a point the team start given excuses to abide by what they promised to do or stop communicating with the community then I can sense the project is scam. How do you determine a project is gone bad and won't fulfil it promise? What criteria do you use ? or you wait for years thinking all will be well ?

I would say that the project is a scam if
1. the team has no response
2. the team never updates on the progress of the project
3. the project did not go according to the roadmap and whitepaper
4. the team always promises but does not keep what was promised
5. the team is not transparent about the total supply of coin in the project


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: rodel caling on August 09, 2019, 11:32:59 PM
At a point the team start given excuses to abide by what they promised to do or stop communicating with the community then I can sense the project is scam. How do you determine a project is gone bad and won't fulfil it promise? What criteria do you use ? or you wait for years thinking all will be well ?


Promise and excuses is part of alibi of the team project if didn't want pay investor and participants and after the excuses and the promises the team disaffair.
Always late to,realize the is scam because all project look have pretty great white paper to encourage people to invest become getting scam the project is over.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: aji567 on August 09, 2019, 11:39:34 PM
my reference is when the admin group telegram more than 1 month is inactive. besides spreadsheets that are not updated by the bounty manager.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: Twinkledoe on August 09, 2019, 11:57:09 PM
my reference is when the admin group telegram more than 1 month is inactive. besides spreadsheets that are not updated by the bounty manager.

Yes, there are a lot of warning signals to detect if a particular project is heading to be a scam. Even the reputation of bounty manager alone can give you a hint if that project is real or not. Check the content of the website as well as their social media channels. There should be something substantial that you can read about their project but if you will see only the generic items, high possibility that they will run away with your investments.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: cryptoML on August 10, 2019, 12:46:42 AM
You can easily determined if that project is scam by the project details itself, dev anonymous and sometimes the concept of their project is just like a plaything project.  :D


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: forexandcryptoauditor on August 10, 2019, 01:01:20 AM
This is the fact that projects are taking too long to complete the development. This in turn lower the confidence in the projects.
Off course we can wait so long, unless we get timely updates on developments of the projects. Missing or decreasing the communication, can be a sense of scam project.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: andika2018 on August 10, 2019, 01:01:47 AM
At a point the team start given excuses to abide by what they promised to do or stop communicating with the community then I can sense the project is scam. How do you determine a project is gone bad and won't fulfil it promise? What criteria do you use ? or you wait for years thinking all will be well ?

Usually when the developer team is no longer active to communicate about the development of the project or the transaction volume is too small compared to the acquisition of ICO. Communication from the developer team is important because it is to ensure investor confidence.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: tondenga2122 on August 10, 2019, 02:04:18 AM
At a point the team start given excuses to abide by what they promised to do or stop communicating with the community then I can sense the project is scam. How do you determine a project is gone bad and won't fulfil it promise? What criteria do you use ? or you wait for years thinking all will be well ?
In my opinion, you can determine it just by looking at their activity on social media.
When they start acting weird, then it would be the last time you will see them ;D


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: akungagal on August 10, 2019, 03:17:08 AM
In my opinion, you can determine it just by looking at their activity on social media.
When they start acting weird, then it would be the last time you will see them ;D

yeah, that's one of the reasons we suspect they are a project scam. they will start giving many reasons to avoid any questions from investors and of course as you said, that will be the last time we see it.

even more painful, they will look strange when they have managed to get a lot of funds from investors and make bounty hunters work hard to promote their scam project for free.


Title: Re: When Do you realize a Crypto project is scam or Fraud?
Post by: reality18 on August 10, 2019, 03:26:01 AM
Crypto project is realized to be scam when the team fails to deliver what was planned and promised in the whitepaper, no telegram activities from the admins, no further information from the core team, close of the website, no distribution of the tokens etc. These are part few ways to know when a project turns out to be scam.