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Title: Open letter/question to Satoshi Post by: threadsupport on June 27, 2019, 02:37:06 PM Hello Satoshi
we think that you have created a bitcoin prize competition and that the privatekeys are somehow within the blockchain. We are trying to solve it and will move the rewarding coins. If you want to add something to that statement, please don't hesitate. Thank you EDITED -------------------- Hello Satoshi for a sound development of Bitcoin, we would like to ask you to give us some information on the keys of the early mined coins. It would help the community through making Bitcoin more predictable. Thank you Quote Quote from: boyptc Ask him/her/them: Did you ... Quote Maybe Satoshi created the greatest prize competition and the privatekeys are somehow within the blockchain. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5150688.0 I would like to ask him these questions, first if he still has control and access to over 1 million bitcoins. Second, if he has it, does he have plans to sell it? The biggest question is what he plans on doing with the 1 million bitcoins he mined at the start and what he thinks of all the bitcoin forks. They are all gone, lets be honest if someone can access 11 Billion dollars and doesn't spend a cent, somethings up. I am 100% under the conclusion he deleted all of his private keys.It would be very fair to get some information on these issues. Or it's going to be a 'winner takes it all' game. Who knows? we would love to know the answer from this question. Title: Re: Open letter/question to Satoshi Post by: franky1 on June 27, 2019, 03:01:28 PM the main assumption is that everytime he debugged his client and updated it, it created a new wallets/files and be didnt back up the previous
take this quote that shows early versions needed backing up entire folders. imagine backing up a folder every time you edited a line of code 4. What files need to be backed up for not losing my "money"? Only the wallet.dat or the whole Bitcoin AppData directory ? Version 0.1.5: backup the whole %appdata%\Bitcoin directory. Version 0.2: you can backup just wallet.dat. satoshi's 'stash' were 50 coins per address which if 1mill coins was accurate would be 20,000 addresses, in numerous folders, if he did backup remember from january 2009-mid 2010 bitcoin had no value in the real world. it was just a experiment back then so there was no value in keeping the private keys. assumptions were that after a few months of bug fixing everything would be reset and born again. but too many joind and it instead just continued to live and it wasnt until 2010 before h made it simple to backup Title: Re: Open letter/question to Satoshi Post by: Bitcoinqubit on June 27, 2019, 03:27:49 PM people who have huge bags in great coins like bitcoin and btc and dash and monero and other great few projects compare to all the 2.8k coins scams outhere.
this kind of people not touch this bags and if yes is to buy home in cash and things like this more then this they try to save and for sure not convert to m0ney paper or gold or diamonds why?? crypto is grow and have max supply compare to all this...get it there is come startup like zeex from israel when you can buy all the brands with crypto everything and they will be the snow ball effect for other startup in this area where you dont need to cinvert crypto to money paper you just buy with it...its will happen very fast. zeex going to explode so hard...i so happy now i can buy brands and drink coffee and fly to other countries with crypto. whales never ever will sell , and alot of them are activist and work part of the change,,, Title: Re: Open letter/question to Satoshi Post by: Bitcoinqubit on June 27, 2019, 03:29:07 PM and they never hold everything in one wallet, my btc spread over 10 cold wallets ...and i have very clever way how to store the key of each wallet and not worry to lost them
Title: Re: Open letter/question to Satoshi Post by: pre-post-mining on June 27, 2019, 04:13:45 PM Satoshi,
improve Bitcoin! Don't let people assume that Bitcoin was pre-mined or ninja-mined. Bitcoin can only grow if that will be solved. Quote Bitcoin wasn't premined. Because the definition of a premine is when the dev begins mining before the coin is actually released. Satoshi launched Bitcoin in 2009 and all coins were mined after this date. On the other hand, it could be argued that Bitcoin was ninjamined, albeit unintentionally. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=664604.36 Quote It seems odd to me that many bitcoin supporters consider Satoshi's pre-mined coins to be a personal security risk (to the tune of $200 million), but simultaneously refuse to hold that fact against bitcoin even though "pre-mined" is a common pejorative used to criticize altcoins. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9551217 Title: Re: Open letter/question to Satoshi Post by: Kakmakr on June 27, 2019, 04:35:58 PM Just put yourself in the mindset that Satoshi might have had when he created those "test" addresses and when he mined those coins in the early experimental year of Bitcoin back in 2009/2010. You release the code and nobody is taking it serious, so you start off by mining some coins and then showcasing how it works to people on anonymous platforms.
It is a chaotic time and you are still ironing out the problems and answering people's questions and also trying to hide your real identity <because it is illegal in most countries to create your own currency> So what do you do? Record all the private keys and take the risk that you might get raided and that it might be held as evidence against you? Nah, I seriously think Satoshi mined those coins just to get things moving and he did not even bother to "archive" most of the private keys that he/she or they were generating. ::) Title: Re: Open letter/question to Satoshi Post by: 1982dre on June 27, 2019, 04:40:47 PM I am just curious if satoshi is still following some topics here about bitcoin or that he is let it all go. If I would had invent such thing like bitcoin I could just disappear.
Title: Re: Open letter/question to Satoshi Post by: Bitcoinqubit on June 27, 2019, 04:58:02 PM I am just curious if satoshi is still following some topics here about bitcoin or that he is let it all go. If I would had invent such thing like bitcoin I could just disappear. they follow not he :) Title: Re: Open letter/question to Satoshi Post by: Bitcoinqubit on June 27, 2019, 05:11:36 PM Satoshi, improve Bitcoin! Don't let people assume that Bitcoin was pre-mined or ninja-mined. Bitcoin can only grow if that will be solved. Quote Bitcoin wasn't premined. Because the definition of a premine is when the dev begins mining before the coin is actually released. Satoshi launched Bitcoin in 2009 and all coins were mined after this date. On the other hand, it could be argued that Bitcoin was ninjamined, albeit unintentionally. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=664604.36 Quote It seems odd to me that many bitcoin supporters consider Satoshi's pre-mined coins to be a personal security risk (to the tune of $200 million), but simultaneously refuse to hold that fact against bitcoin even though "pre-mined" is a common pejorative used to criticize altcoins. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9551217 nothing wrong with premine or with non mineble coins when the team take x amount of coins to them, if this legit project and have great tech(i not talk about scams and shit coins) they deserve this chunk of coins to take ...who will fund them you or greedy people that only for the money in this game while the great teams bring great and bright future .... they fucking deserve to take 10-15 % from the max supply in order to fund them self and keep the project going and do other things with the money like for example Chelsea E. Manning she is going to receive nice chunk of cryptos,,, to help here she is part of huge underground international even more if something will happen to here ** people need money in order to fight ...i know its sound far away from people who only run after money and dont nothing and live inside small cube inside their head,,,until age 60-70 hit and game over... so this kind of team deserve to take 15-10% of coins in order to develop the project and fund them self and put food on the table bro and they need this money for other things one example i gave you is Chelsea E. Manning, but compare to shitty scammers like xrp and the huge supply when the owners hold large portion of the coins and scam everybody that it will hit 10$ which never will happen ** its need to have market cap of 1 trillion alone its all relative which mean bitcoin then will have trillion of trillions of market cap...caradano and digibyte and other huge supply its scam trap ask expert blockchain... so great team with great tech and great coin must to take 10-15 % to put food on the table and develop the project and use this money for other things, who will put put food to them on table, who will fund them....the greedy people that run after money and dont give a damn shit about our future leave satoshi team they deserve to hold this coins for sure and other great teams...compare to you know what Title: Re: Open letter/question to Satoshi Post by: Bitcoinqubit on June 27, 2019, 05:12:55 PM Satoshi, improve Bitcoin! Don't let people assume that Bitcoin was pre-mined or ninja-mined. Bitcoin can only grow if that will be solved. Quote Bitcoin wasn't premined. Because the definition of a premine is when the dev begins mining before the coin is actually released. Satoshi launched Bitcoin in 2009 and all coins were mined after this date. On the other hand, it could be argued that Bitcoin was ninjamined, albeit unintentionally. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=664604.36 Quote It seems odd to me that many bitcoin supporters consider Satoshi's pre-mined coins to be a personal security risk (to the tune of $200 million), but simultaneously refuse to hold that fact against bitcoin even though "pre-mined" is a common pejorative used to criticize altcoins. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9551217 reread it so important nothing wrong with premine or with non mineble coins when the team take x amount of coins to them, if this legit project and have great tech(i not talk about scams and shit coins) they deserve this chunk of coins to take ...who will fund them you or greedy people that only for the money in this game while the great teams bring great and bright future .... they fucking deserve to take 10-15 % from the max supply in order to fund them self and keep the project going and do other things with the money like for example Chelsea E. Manning she is going to receive nice chunk of cryptos,,, to help here she is part of huge underground international even more if something will happen to here ** people need money in order to fight ...i know its sound far away from people who only run after money and dont nothing and live inside small cube inside their head,,,until age 60-70 hit and game over... so this kind of team deserve to take 15-10% of coins in order to develop the project and fund them self and put food on the table bro and they need this money for other things one example i gave you is Chelsea E. Manning, but compare to shitty scammers like xrp and the huge supply when the owners hold large portion of the coins and scam everybody that it will hit 10$ which never will happen ** its need to have market cap of 1 trillion alone its all relative which mean bitcoin then will have trillion of trillions of market cap...caradano and digibyte and other huge supply its scam trap ask expert blockchain... so great team with great tech and great coin must to take 10-15 % to put food on the table and develop the project and use this money for other things, who will put put food to them on table, who will fund them....the greedy people that run after money and dont give a damn shit about our future leave satoshi team they deserve to hold this coins for sure and other great teams...compare to you know what Title: Re: Open letter/question to Satoshi Post by: threadsupport on June 28, 2019, 01:19:50 PM I seriously think Satoshi mined those coins just to get things moving and he did not even bother to "archive" most of the private keys that he/she or they were generating. ::) That would be answer enough. Title: Re: Open letter/question to Satoshi Post by: Bitcoinqubit on June 28, 2019, 01:42:25 PM Bitcoin was not created by one man. It was a team of highly skilled cryptographers with punk marketers which make it viral with almost zero spend on ads, only uneducated dumb people will think its one person behind this hhhh.
bit coin idea its not new tech its just mixing tech that already exist and created from peer to peer file sharing, because pper to peer file sharing was created way before bitcoin and the reason for peer to peer file sharing(decentralized tech) because central file sharing was pretty fast shut down by governments, because movies,mp3,softwares and other info was hosted on few main servers and its easy to shut down them, so people created peer to peer file sharing and each computer is server that download and upload info and now the governmnets need to shut down more then 500m computers and its impossible. Peer-to-peer file sharing is the distribution and sharing of digital media using peer-to-peer (P2P) networking technology. P2P file sharing allows users to access media files such as books, music, movies, and games using a P2P software program that searches for other connected computers on a P2P network to locate the desired content.[1] The nodes (peers) of such networks are end-user computers and distribution servers (not required). Peer-to-peer file sharing technology has evolved through several design stages from the early networks like Napster, which popularized the technology, to the later models like the BitTorrent protocol. now BITCOIN ** come from this idea just with twist peer to peer money, in order to make this happen they created block--chain between peer a and peer b peer -- blockchain -- peer Edward Snowden was speak about peer to peer can make financial freedom way before bitcoin come and few others hhhhh its problem when people greedy and dumb as fuck and the logic function inside the head bro=ke until age 60-70 hit and game over for them.... the founder of ethereum in small conference in israel answer to somebody that ask from where all this info and vitalik answer was , people that know to organize them self over the web. and its cannot created by fucky agents whatever country and while they spying each other like dumb kids on shitty salary..and governments and banks for sure hhhhh not behind this because peer to peer come from activist and kill central p0wer very simple... Edward Snowden comes out as early Bitcoin adopter "The servers that I used [when whistleblowing against the NSA] were paid for using Bitcoin." 2019 https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=2463&v=PVN13ad3UUk 41:00 so most of the people uneducated and the logic function inside the head dont work its real and they think its one person hhhhh Title: Re: Open letter/question to Satoshi Post by: jademaxsuy on June 28, 2019, 04:00:38 PM Just forget it OP, SATOSHI had not shown already a long time ago and many of the users here linking to theymos. Even theymos had the idea of the money for the forum to which means that theymos and SATOSHI or a group of people does have knowledge about bitcoin and the forum.
This is what my theory all.about so OP, this is also where the story could.go and it is hard to pursue an information if the person or group of interest would not be willing to show up. Forget it OP. Title: Re: Open letter/question to Satoshi Post by: pre-post-mining on June 28, 2019, 04:30:14 PM Just forget it OP, SATOSHI had not shown already a long time ago and many of the users here linking to theymos. Even theymos had the idea of the money for the forum to which means that theymos and SATOSHI or a group of people does have knowledge about bitcoin and the forum. This is what my theory all.about so OP, this is also where the story could.go and it is hard to pursue an information if the person or group of interest would not be willing to show up. Forget it OP. Once quantum computers will start to move that early coins, and we will switch to quantum secure wallets, we will know if they have the keys or not. Title: Re: Open letter/question to Satoshi Post by: Bitcoinqubit on June 28, 2019, 04:42:07 PM Just forget it OP, SATOSHI had not shown already a long time ago and many of the users here linking to theymos. Even theymos had the idea of the money for the forum to which means that theymos and SATOSHI or a group of people does have knowledge about bitcoin and the forum. This is what my theory all.about so OP, this is also where the story could.go and it is hard to pursue an information if the person or group of interest would not be willing to show up. Forget it OP. so simple Re: Who is Satoshi Nakamoto? Today at 02:45:49 PM #2122 Quote from: KacperBTCrypto on Today at 02:15:22 PM Satoshi may make bitcoin famous all over the world. If we'd know who he is, TV news would talk and talk about it, people would get interested in crypto topics and maybe become new investors ----> BTC GROWS UP! your so fucking dumb its unbelievable, almost everything can be traced over the internet...but its relative to the mind and 99% of the people is feed from dumb websites and the wrong people///// only 1-2% make money in this industry and most of them activists ... tv cannot know who is satoshi, know why its a team,,, few people on the web said peer to peer file sharing will do financial freedom one of them, Edward Snowden he was very early Bitcoin adopter he know why hhhh i explain all this 0ver and 0ver to help people with logic the others huge % will stuck with their dumb ideas and for sure will never do any money in the game,,,its all relative... this teams need a lot of money to build new projects and feed them self and help others and other important stuff you probaly didnt read my answer because you so fucking dumb,,,but bitcoin is peer to peer money and it came from peer to peer file sharing nothing new here about bitcoin the point the punk marketers make it viral very fast... Title: Re: Open letter/question to Satoshi Post by: bbc.reporter on June 30, 2019, 01:16:56 AM Just put yourself in the mindset that Satoshi might have had when he created those "test" addresses and when he mined those coins in the early experimental year of Bitcoin back in 2009/2010. You release the code and nobody is taking it serious, so you start off by mining some coins and then showcasing how it works to people on anonymous platforms. It is a chaotic time and you are still ironing out the problems and answering people's questions and also trying to hide your real identity <because it is illegal in most countries to create your own currency> So what do you do? Record all the private keys and take the risk that you might get raided and that it might be held as evidence against you? Nah, I seriously think Satoshi mined those coins just to get things moving and he did not even bother to "archive" most of the private keys that he/she or they were generating. ::) You can speculate, however, how certain are you that he never had copies of his private keys? Also, the solution to this unfair advantage would be to dilute the coins of the early miners by predictable, infinite emission. Title: Re: Open letter/question to Satoshi Post by: pooya87 on June 30, 2019, 03:06:39 AM Satoshi, improve Bitcoin! Don't let people assume that Bitcoin was pre-mined or ninja-mined. Bitcoin can only grow if that will be solved. there is nothing to solve! there are always going to be idiots who hear something and make conclusions based on that just because they don't understand what things such as "premine" and "ninja mine" mean that doesn't mean bitcoin needs fixing, THOSE people need fixing and that is out of our control. Title: Re: Open letter/question to Satoshi Post by: xWolfx on June 30, 2019, 04:18:07 PM Satoshi, improve Bitcoin! Don't let people assume that Bitcoin was pre-mined or ninja-mined. Bitcoin can only grow if that will be solved. This are the comments which denote that there's still some innocence left on this world. And of course that this is the comment that should be listened to, even if we're reading. Why? Because it needs to be repeated constantly i believe. The time will come when the appearance of Satoshi will be needed and he will probably know more than anyone else when that date will be. Then he can solve those issues and reward anyone who he believes deserve it. For now, that would only bring more misconceptions and problems and complicated things a lot more. Title: Re: Open letter/question to Satoshi Post by: finaleshot2016 on June 30, 2019, 04:25:23 PM Satoshi, improve Bitcoin! Don't let people assume that Bitcoin was pre-mined or ninja-mined. Bitcoin can only grow if that will be solved. What are you saying? Getting solved by what? It's just a selfish act of yours. Also, Satoshi didn't expect this good thing happening in bitcoin so I think we should thank him because of this opportunity and this is you, wanted to solve something to grow bitcoin. lol there is nothing to solve! there are always going to be idiots who hear something and make conclusions based on that just because they don't understand what things such as "premine" and "ninja mine" mean that doesn't mean bitcoin needs fixing, THOSE people need fixing and that is out of our control. Exactly. People are getting obsessed with bitcoin and thinking that it needed to be solved/fixed to grow. :D Title: Re: Open letter/question to Satoshi Post by: threadsupport on September 27, 2019, 01:40:46 PM Hello Satoshi
we think that you have created a bitcoin prize competition and that the privatekeys are somehow within the blockchain. We are trying to solve it and will move the rewarding coins. If you want to add something to that statement, please don't hesitate. Thank you Title: Re: Open letter/question to Satoshi Post by: bozo333 on September 27, 2019, 01:45:07 PM Great try by Op but still we not sure that we can see the Satoshi in the white light and I do not believe that he will comes and show his face off first of all. Then how we can expect these answers from Satoshi.
Lets hope with OP, May be he may pass the anonymous mail to you ;D ;D ;D Title: Re: Open letter/question to Satoshi Post by: threadsupport on September 27, 2019, 02:07:17 PM Hello Satoshi we think that you have created a bitcoin prize competition and that the privatekeys are somehow within the blockchain. We are trying to solve it and will move the rewarding coins. If you want to add something to that statement, please don't hesitate. Thank you Maybe some others are also trying -- Maybe Satoshi created the greatest prize competition https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5150688.0 I think he did. I'm sure that Satoshi has been through a lot of trial and error proceedure and testings. I have no doubt that he has creating things like the greatest prize competition. We all know that Satoshi has been successful will Bitcoin through several trial and error. Yes there is a difference from "lost coins" i mean people who lose access to their coins, pc crash and no backup, forget and throw away there pc, and yes Satoshi i think create a prize competition but i don't think private keys can be found from blockchain. He is or was the greatest cryptographer to ever exist to be able to create the thing such as the blockchain which has stood the test of 10 years of attacks and people trying to break the chains. ;) I think he would of put something in there and a way to unlock the prize at the end of the journey for the right person. Title: Re: Open letter/question to Satoshi Post by: rebrik7 on September 27, 2019, 02:28:35 PM It's hard to imagine, what could happen, if Satoshi will read and, moreover, answer to OP for his letter ;D
In case of any activity from mysterious Satoshi all crypto community will be extremely excited. Title: Re: Open letter/question to Satoshi Post by: threadsupport on September 27, 2019, 03:03:54 PM Great try by Op but still we not sure that we can see the Satoshi in the white light and I do not believe that he will comes and show his face off first of all. Then how we can expect these answers from Satoshi. Lets hope with OP, May be he may pass the anonymous mail to you ;D ;D ;D It's hard to imagine, what could happen, if Satoshi will read and, moreover, answer to OP for his letter ;D In case of any activity from mysterious Satoshi all crypto community will be extremely excited. I would just write-Thank you! We hope that one day we will be able to move the rewarding coins. It will support Bitcoin and the community. Title: Re: Open letter/question to Satoshi Post by: Tonteus on September 27, 2019, 03:41:40 PM I would like to ask Satoshi about whether to expect a new project from him and what awaits us in the future
Title: Re: Open letter/question to Satoshi Post by: wintherace on September 29, 2019, 04:26:17 PM Who will win the race and get the early coins?
Quantum computing or solving the "Satoshi Prize Competition". Title: Re: Open letter/question to Satoshi Post by: NewBet on September 29, 2019, 04:40:40 PM Who heard about that Satoshi reveal website? The picture looks like CGI, it definitely doesn't look like a real person. Most likely it's a deepfake and that isn't even a real person. Has anyone found their identity? At least it looks pretty real. Although not real enough to fool everyone.
Title: Re: Open letter/question to Satoshi Post by: qubitasic on September 30, 2019, 04:56:39 PM I think Satoshi knew about Quantum computing but he thought they're not coming any time soon yet still they're not in existence. And someday even if the quantum computers are active the bitcoin developers can actually implement another form of security to bypass them. People also get better with time just like computers do. If he knew about Quantum computing, then he also knew that some day the early mined coins will be moved. And he didn't move these coins. That means 2. Satoshi created the greatest prize competition and the privatekeys are somehow within the blockchain. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5150688.0 and privatekeys are somehow within the blockchain = quantum computer? Satoshi, please move your coins. Otherwise we assume that the unmoved early coins are a prize competition. Title: Re: Open letter/question to Satoshi Post by: threadsupport on October 01, 2019, 04:18:14 PM We think that a development of Bitcoin is impossible without solving the 'shalecoin' issue, coins with no owner https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5134441.0
Title: Re: Open letter/question to Satoshi Post by: threadsupport on October 01, 2019, 04:47:26 PM Why is P2PKH used instead of the simpler P2PK?
https://bitcoin.stackexchange.com/questions/72184/why-is-p2pkh-used-instead-of-the-simpler-p2pk/72201#72201 Pieter Wuille: The original reason why addresses were a public key hashes is something you'll need to ask Satoshi. My guess however is that it was just shorter and more convenient (note that compressed public keys weren't known at the time). .. One often repeated argument in favor is quantum resistance. Our guess is that he knew that the early mined coins will be moved one day. So he created a 'prize competition'. Otherwise he could move the coins to quantum resistant P2PKH addresses, but he did not and is not doing. The only question is: Who will win the race and get the early coins? Quantum computing or solving the "Satoshi Prize Competition". Nobody can stop that race. Title: Re: Open letter/question to Satoshi Post by: qubitasic on October 08, 2019, 04:07:19 PM Satoshi, please move your coins. Otherwise we assume that the unmoved early coins are a prize competition. No, he is not moving the coins. Title: Re: Open letter/question to Satoshi Post by: qubitasic on October 12, 2019, 12:56:44 PM Antonopoulos: Google’s ‘Quantum Supremacy’ Has No Impact on Bitcoin
https://cointelegraph.com/news/antonopoulos-googles-quantum-supremacy-has-no-impact-on-bitcoin Nonetheless, becoming quantum-resistant, at least in terms of signature algorithms, is on Bitcoin’s roadmap as a necessary step, he added. Title: Re: Open letter/question to Satoshi Post by: Mandoy on October 12, 2019, 02:45:34 PM This topic is really funny. The so called Satoshis Treasure is not made by Satoshi himself and this is have no relation to satoshis bitcoins. Satoshis Treasure is a game wherein the scale is global and we have to find the hidden keys to unlock the 1 million dollar worth of bitcoin as a price. This is like pokemon go but it is much more bigger since people across the globe needs to collaborate to solve the puzzle to ultimately find the keys and win the price.
Title: Re: Open letter/question to Satoshi Post by: threadsupport on October 17, 2019, 04:47:14 PM December 2015 a Bitcointalk member discovered a puzzle transaction while playing around with his bot: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1306983.msg13381244#msg13381244 At that time nobody declared such a puzzle transaction which was created January 2015 until the creator of that competition came out 2 years later: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1306983.msg18765941#msg18765941 As of 01/10/2019 there are still more than 100 BTC to win. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5166284.0 We think that the early mined coins of Satoshi are also a prize competition and that Satoshi is waiting this coins to be moved. We also think that he will not respond after somebody moves the first coins but it will be a message to the Bitcoin community that the private keys are somehow on the blockchain. If Satoshi disagreed with that conclusion he would have moved the coins to other addresses. Interesting hypothesis, but these could have also happened... - He lost the keys (James Caan doesn't know how to do backups) - He became incapacitated in some way, and family/friends didn't know he was Satoshi, or how to recover the funds - He saw how big Bitcoin's economy had become, and chose to destroy (or put on ice) his private keys, knowing that if the early blocks move it could crash the economy Yes, almightyruler, anything could have happened. And Satoshi knew that all. He tested all the blockchain with more computers before releasing the applications. He knew what can happen. Gavin Andresen started a project to give away free Bitcoins https://freebitcoins.appspot.com/ (no more working) and Satoshi wrote June 2010: Excellent choice of a first project, nice work. I had planned to do this exact thing if someone else didn't do it https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=183.msg1620#msg1620 He waited but thought that someone else will do it. We think that he is waiting that someone moves the early mined coins to show to the Bitcoin community that it's a prize competition and that the private keys are somehow on the blockchain. Title: Re: Open letter/question to Satoshi Post by: threadsupport on October 18, 2019, 02:52:54 PM Re: Satoshi Nakamoto - 1,5 million Bitcoins - We need answers As you can see on the fifth graph here http://bitcoin.sipa.be/ , for many months Bitcoin was very unknown to the public and because of that difficulty didn't change to the upside. If I have understood it correctly around 1,5 million Bitcoins were created from February 2009 until the end of same year. Also if I have understood it correctly very few people mined under this time period making the conclusion that Satoshi Nakamoto and a few more people have a considerable amount of Bitcoins (worth today around 16 million dollars). You could also suppose that a majority of this coins are in the hand of Satoshi Nakamoto. Today it has gone more than two years from the birth of Bitcoin, I am convinced that Nakamoto has big plans for Bitcoin and he/she/they have put considerable amount of time and effort in this interesting project. We think that Satoshi has created a Bitcoin prize competition and that the privatekeys are somehow within the blockchain. Title: Re: Open letter/question to Satoshi Post by: Nhor1011 on October 18, 2019, 03:24:17 PM Sometimes it's crazy to think things about bitcoin. Until now Satoshi nakamoto remains anonymous and maybe even we ask a lot of questions there is no real Satoshi nakamoto that will appear and answer those questions. If there will be an open later of all the answers to our questions,do you believe that it came from real Satoshi? :o
Title: Re: Open letter/question to Satoshi Post by: hundredpercent on October 18, 2019, 03:57:13 PM Satoshi wrote:
SHA-256 is very strong. It's not like the incremental step from MD5 to SHA1. It can last several decades unless there's some massive breakthrough attack. But he did not transfer the early mined coins to SHA-256/RIPEMD addresses. It would change the structure of the prize competition. * 100% sure that it is a prize competition * 100% sure that you can solve it only with the blockchain * still trying to solve it * one day someone will solve it Title: Re: Open letter/question to Satoshi Post by: satoshyref on October 18, 2019, 04:42:34 PM Hello Satoshi we think that you have created a bitcoin prize competition and that the privatekeys are somehow within the blockchain. We are trying to solve it and will move the rewarding coins. If you want to add something to that statement, please don't hesitate. Thank you I agree and would say Quote Satoshi July 29, 2010: If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=532.msg6306#msg6306Title: Re: Open letter/question to Satoshi Post by: areyousatooshi on October 29, 2019, 04:07:56 PM Look at these 19 public keys: Code: 0434f3e8e75ec56591490b558a6f31211f0f5c92345addee268418af70e8c4b38e69843aa0139d3a393b7353388dcb3e809f28d2f61f998c0299abd5ed3eb3165b They correspond to uncompressed addresses with the first transactions in 2011 year, and fund release only in September 2019. The amounts for every address are 100-500BTC. For example the first 3 addresses (released 147BTC, 122BTC and 147BTC) are: 13GUJutC6GKgJQTcGzCtznDDYFQKVJFVwp 13Sa73PU9Ar5sE4SdFcBdbg9ntbNcMQhaA 14k4GhqA1svNZPbssdAjgdnfzWTpAigZVH Is this Satoshi releasing his early mined funds? This could not be a luck, so huge luck. I'm not the author of these pubkeys collection. I found it here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1306983.msg52879592#msg52879592 This puzzle is very strange. If it's for measuring the world's brute forcing capacity, 161-256 are just a waste (RIPEMD160 entropy is filled by 160, and by all of P2PKH Bitcoin). The puzzle creator could improve the puzzle's utility without bringing in any extra funds from outside - just spend 161-256 across to the unsolved portion 51-160, and roughly treble the puzzle's content density. If on the other hand there's a pattern to find... well... that's awfully open-ended... can we have a hint or two? :D I am the creator. You are quite right, 161-256 are silly. I honestly just did not think of this. What is especially embarrassing, is this did not occur to me once, in two years. By way of excuse, I was not really thinking much about the puzzle at all. I will make up for two years of stupidity. I will spend from 161-256 to the unsolved parts, as you suggest. In addition, I intend to add further funds. My aim is to boost the density by a factor of 10, from 0.001*length(key) to 0.01*length(key). Probably in the next few weeks. At any rate, when I next have an extended period of quiet and calm, to construct the new transaction carefully. A few words about the puzzle. There is no pattern. It is just consecutive keys from a deterministic wallet (masked with leading 000...0001 to set difficulty). It is simply a crude measuring instrument, of the cracking strength of the community. Finally, I wish to express appreciation of the efforts of all developers of new cracking tools and technology. The "large bitcoin collider" is especially innovative and interesting! saatoshi_rising, are you satoshi? If you don't want to tell something, we respect your privacy! Maybe you could support us here: Maybe Satoshi created the greatest prize competition https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5150688.0 Title: Re: Open letter/question to Satoshi Post by: s_a_t_o_s_h_i on December 10, 2019, 05:13:47 PM Hello Satoshi we think that you have created a bitcoin prize competition and that the privatekeys are somehow within the blockchain. We are trying to solve it and will move the rewarding coins. If you want to add something to that statement, please don't hesitate. Thank you EDITED -------------------- Hello Satoshi for a sound development of Bitcoin, we would like to ask you to give us some information on the keys of the early mined coins. It would help the community through making Bitcoin more predictable. Thank you Quote we would like to ask you to give us some information on the keys of the early mined coins. He did already.December 2015 a Bitcointalk member discovered a puzzle transaction while playing around with his bot: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1306983.msg13381244#msg13381244 At that time nobody declared such a puzzle transaction which was created January 2015 until the creator of that competition came out 2 years later: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1306983.msg18765941#msg18765941 As of 01/10/2019 there are still more than 100 BTC to win. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5166284.0 We think that the early mined coins of Satoshi are also a prize competition and that Satoshi is waiting this coins to be moved. We also think that he will not respond after somebody moves the first coins but it will be a message to the Bitcoin community that the private keys are somehow on the blockchain. If Satoshi disagreed with that conclusion he would have moved the coins to other addresses. Is 'saatoshi_rising' (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=991321;sa=showPosts) Satoshi wanting to tell us something? What do you mean? This puzzle is very strange. If it's for measuring the world's brute forcing capacity, 161-256 are just a waste (RIPEMD160 entropy is filled by 160, and by all of P2PKH Bitcoin). The puzzle creator could improve the puzzle's utility without bringing in any extra funds from outside - just spend 161-256 across to the unsolved portion 51-160, and roughly treble the puzzle's content density. If on the other hand there's a pattern to find... well... that's awfully open-ended... can we have a hint or two? :D I am the creator. You are quite right, 161-256 are silly. I honestly just did not think of this. What is especially embarrassing, is this did not occur to me once, in two years. By way of excuse, I was not really thinking much about the puzzle at all. I will make up for two years of stupidity. I will spend from 161-256 to the unsolved parts, as you suggest. In addition, I intend to add further funds. My aim is to boost the density by a factor of 10, from 0.001*length(key) to 0.01*length(key). Probably in the next few weeks. At any rate, when I next have an extended period of quiet and calm, to construct the new transaction carefully. A few words about the puzzle. There is no pattern. It is just consecutive keys from a deterministic wallet (masked with leading 000...0001 to set difficulty). It is simply a crude measuring instrument, of the cracking strength of the community. Finally, I wish to express appreciation of the efforts of all developers of new cracking tools and technology. The "large bitcoin collider" is especially innovative and interesting! Title: Re: Open letter/question to Satoshi Post by: nextVERYbig on December 10, 2019, 05:43:46 PM Quote we would like to ask you to give us some information on the keys of the early mined coins. He did already.We have to wait until someone will move the early mined coins. That will be a huge message to the Bitcoin community and is the next big thing in the Bitcoin world. Title: Re: Open letter/question to Satoshi Post by: HAPPYnew2020 on December 30, 2019, 05:36:46 PM Hello Satoshi we think that you have created a bitcoin prize competition and that the privatekeys are somehow within the blockchain. We are trying to solve it and will move the rewarding coins. If you want to add something to that statement, please don't hesitate. Thank you EDITED -------------------- Hello Satoshi for a sound development of Bitcoin, we would like to ask you to give us some information on the keys of the early mined coins. It would help the community through making Bitcoin more predictable. Thank you Satoshi, Happy New Year! We need your support. Title: Re: Open letter/question to Satoshi Post by: qubitasic on January 17, 2020, 05:46:01 PM Quantum computing boost for IBM but Bitcoin stays safe https://decrypt.co/16211/quantum-computing-boost-for-ibm-but-bitcoin-stays-safe Interesting. I know 2500 is far from current 28 qubit but it still scares me a little. Not long ago I've read about 11-qubit quantum computer. How long do you think it will take to develop 2500 qubit computer? I hope Moore's law doesn't apply here.IBM has doubled the power of its quantum computer but Bitcoin's encryption is still far from being broken. "IBM has doubled the power of its quantum computer. At yesterday's CES 2020 conference, the company announced it had successfully achieved a Quantum Volume of 32 using its 28-qubit quantum computer known as Raleigh." "As a network built entirely around cryptographically secured transactions, it stands to reason that a sufficiently powerful quantum computer could eventually crack the encryption used to generate Bitcoin private keys. However, according to a June 2017 paper by Martin Roetteler and several co-authors, such as a machine would need to command approximately 2,500 qubits of processing power to break the 256-bit encryption used by Bitcoin." Will Quantum Volume Be The Next Moore’s Law? https://www.designnews.com/design-hardware-software/will-quantum-volume-be-next-moore-s-law/62963653562205 Doubling performance every year is now the benchmark for quantum computers as designers look to EDA vendors for new automation tools. IBM’s Rasit Onur Topaloglu: "I am not going to project when we will reach 200 qubits, but we already have an 80 qubits architecture." According to the chart: 2500 qubits reached by year 2025 We have to begin with the implementation of quantum resistant Bitcoin addresses soon. @satoshi, your early mined coins will be moved soon and will have new owners. Transfer your coins to P2PKH (or other than P2PK) addresses if you disagree. We have no other opportunity (you created bitcointalk.org) to explain you the situation. You don't need to answer, but if you want to give away your coins, thank you very much. Otherwise move your coins, please. Title: Re: Open letter/question to Satoshi Post by: KieranG on January 17, 2020, 06:40:39 PM I wish I understood this thread.. ???
Title: Re: Open letter/question to Satoshi Post by: BitcoinMoses on January 17, 2020, 07:36:47 PM Hello Satoshi we think that you have created a bitcoin prize competition and that the privatekeys are somehow within the blockchain. We are trying to solve it and will move the rewarding coins. If you want to add something to that statement, please don't hesitate. Thank you EDITED -------------------- Hello Satoshi for a sound development of Bitcoin, we would like to ask you to give us some information on the keys of the early mined coins. It would help the community through making Bitcoin more predictable. Thank you Quote we would like to ask you to give us some information on the keys of the early mined coins. He did already.December 2015 a Bitcointalk member discovered a puzzle transaction while playing around with his bot: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1306983.msg13381244#msg13381244 At that time nobody declared such a puzzle transaction which was created January 2015 until the creator of that competition came out 2 years later: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1306983.msg18765941#msg18765941 As of 01/10/2019 there are still more than 100 BTC to win. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5166284.0 We think that the early mined coins of Satoshi are also a prize competition and that Satoshi is waiting this coins to be moved. We also think that he will not respond after somebody moves the first coins but it will be a message to the Bitcoin community that the private keys are somehow on the blockchain. If Satoshi disagreed with that conclusion he would have moved the coins to other addresses. Is 'saatoshi_rising' (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=991321;sa=showPosts) Satoshi wanting to tell us something? What do you mean? This puzzle is very strange. If it's for measuring the world's brute forcing capacity, 161-256 are just a waste (RIPEMD160 entropy is filled by 160, and by all of P2PKH Bitcoin). The puzzle creator could improve the puzzle's utility without bringing in any extra funds from outside - just spend 161-256 across to the unsolved portion 51-160, and roughly treble the puzzle's content density. If on the other hand there's a pattern to find... well... that's awfully open-ended... can we have a hint or two? :D I am the creator. You are quite right, 161-256 are silly. I honestly just did not think of this. What is especially embarrassing, is this did not occur to me once, in two years. By way of excuse, I was not really thinking much about the puzzle at all. I will make up for two years of stupidity. I will spend from 161-256 to the unsolved parts, as you suggest. In addition, I intend to add further funds. My aim is to boost the density by a factor of 10, from 0.001*length(key) to 0.01*length(key). Probably in the next few weeks. At any rate, when I next have an extended period of quiet and calm, to construct the new transaction carefully. A few words about the puzzle. There is no pattern. It is just consecutive keys from a deterministic wallet (masked with leading 000...0001 to set difficulty). It is simply a crude measuring instrument, of the cracking strength of the community. Finally, I wish to express appreciation of the efforts of all developers of new cracking tools and technology. The "large bitcoin collider" is especially innovative and interesting! You people, What do you want ? You have no clues about the real Satoshi Nakamoto. It is just his pseudonym. He is reading this thread and thinking, what next to do ? If you people are fascinated about Satoshi Nakamoto and want to know him then why don't you wait and see who is the real Samoto Nakatoshi ? Look, it is a joke, Satoshi has never left you. He is in this forum. Time to time he comes here and read for some times. He actually has lost all his private keys. If some one call help to recover it then contact Moses, BitcoinMoses. Grand Father of BitcoinJesus. Satoshi Nakamoto really need your help to unlock his first mined 985050 Bitcoins. One he can access to it then he will be able to do his charity work. Title: Re: Open letter/question to Satoshi Post by: alirezakaj on January 18, 2020, 07:25:35 PM the main assumption is that everytime he debugged his client and updated it, it created a new wallets/files and be didnt back up the previous take this quote that shows early versions needed backing up entire folders. imagine backing up a folder every time you edited a line of code 4. What files need to be backed up for not losing my "money"? Only the wallet.dat or the whole Bitcoin AppData directory ? Version 0.1.5: backup the whole %appdata%\Bitcoin directory. Version 0.2: you can backup just wallet.dat. satoshi's 'stash' were 50 coins per address which if 1mill coins was accurate would be 20,000 addresses, in numerous folders, if he did backup remember from january 2009-mid 2010 bitcoin had no value in the real world. it was just a experiment back then so there was no value in keeping the private keys. assumptions were that after a few months of bug fixing everything would be reset and born again. but too many joind and it instead just continued to live and it wasnt until 2010 before h made it simple to backup extranounce patern that sergio provided in 2013 shows that around 740,000 btc were mined by satoshi ,After August 2009 the pattern breaks down to some extent, there is no other evidence that show pattern still same after that i think other coinbase unspent will remain unspent because thoses are mined by random people that never have backup of wallet and just tried satoshi client for while then deleted it because btc have no value in 2009 so its boring to keep mine for some cents of course satoshi may keep mining it but there is no proof for that yet and we cant say satoshi own 1m btc some people claimed that they mined a lot in 2009 but non of them signed messege as i know i only believe hal finney mined some blocks after 2017 20k$ price every dam trader could sell 2009 mined coins to be rich as hell . so thats the case only satoshi coins remain Title: Re: Open letter/question to Satoshi Post by: soulcity on January 18, 2020, 08:51:05 PM Closed letter to Satoshi.
Hey Satoshi, if you read this drop me a PM for the closed letter. Title: Re: Open letter/question to Satoshi Post by: newBTCdecade on January 20, 2020, 05:46:07 PM How the Crypto World Is Preparing for Quantum Computing, Explained https://cointelegraph.com/explained/how-the-crypto-world-is-preparing-for-quantum-computing-explained "While present-day quantum computers cannot break blockchains and their underlying cryptography, larger ones on the horizon are a threat, indeed, and need to be prepared for." @ developers: When will we implement quantum computer resistant addresses? @ satoshi: You filled the blockchain with your early mined coins and the quantum transformation will be very interesting. Who will get the most coins? @ satoshi: Thank you for that amazing and incredible way of distribution of Bitcoins. You support and reward the best technology. Title: Re: Open letter/question to Satoshi Post by: seoincorporation on January 20, 2020, 08:02:08 PM Quote EDITED -------------------- Hello Satoshi for a sound development of Bitcoin, we would like to ask you to give us some information on the keys of the early mined coins. It would help the community through making Bitcoin more predictable. Thank you How would you use the key for a sound development of Bitcoin? And why not use the Bitcoin addys? What makes you think he will give you the keys... sound fund as a joke, but c'mon, you really think is that easy to get access to thousands of dollars? Title: Re: Open letter/question to Satoshi Post by: quantumreward on January 21, 2020, 03:45:54 PM Quote EDITED -------------------- Hello Satoshi for a sound development of Bitcoin, we would like to ask you to give us some information on the keys of the early mined coins. It would help the community through making Bitcoin more predictable. Thank you How would you use the key for a sound development of Bitcoin? And why not use the Bitcoin addys? Quote What makes you think he will give you the keys... sound fund as a joke, but c'mon, you really think is that easy to get access to thousands of dollars? Nobody will give the keys, it is the reward for people who can get them through quantum computing. And this is not easy but an incentive to support and develop Satoshi's creation.Title: Re: Open letter/question to Satoshi Post by: Boov on January 21, 2020, 04:17:00 PM Quote EDITED -------------------- Hello Satoshi for a sound development of Bitcoin, we would like to ask you to give us some information on the keys of the early mined coins. It would help the community through making Bitcoin more predictable. Thank you How would you use the key for a sound development of Bitcoin? And why not use the Bitcoin addys? Quote What makes you think he will give you the keys... sound fund as a joke, but c'mon, you really think is that easy to get access to thousands of dollars? Nobody will give the keys, it is the reward for people who can get them through quantum computing. And this is not easy but an incentive to support and develop Satoshi's creation.Title: Re: Open letter/question to Satoshi Post by: quantumreward on January 21, 2020, 04:23:02 PM Quote EDITED -------------------- Hello Satoshi for a sound development of Bitcoin, we would like to ask you to give us some information on the keys of the early mined coins. It would help the community through making Bitcoin more predictable. Thank you How would you use the key for a sound development of Bitcoin? And why not use the Bitcoin addys? Quote What makes you think he will give you the keys... sound fund as a joke, but c'mon, you really think is that easy to get access to thousands of dollars? Nobody will give the keys, it is the reward for people who can get them through quantum computing. And this is not easy but an incentive to support and develop Satoshi's creation.Title: Re: Open letter/question to Satoshi Post by: coinbaseclusters on August 25, 2020, 01:31:44 PM Satoshi:
There are several clusters of coinbase Bitcoins. Example.. 10 x 50 Bitcoins = 500 Bitcoins Trying to solve 13QpKfncHe64yZRwfg2E5DppQqJnUjFE9T 14MnhZnNyaKLvMA8qDzk9fN8dtHVCFrnY7 17sPDKV6STTEt36FCDTM8Nj6hRVYSmovdt 19uX49XHrnxSBRPhVzhqoJvFQZVo9RejHQ 1AaGsvFX5xewLxBd2SXuXbEwvyNzweMq78 1E3nuvexijtSG9NcqP3F9meUup1KxdpMHs 1FVR1MwV9x7rNQC43p4qHeMP4LsyPi7htu 1Hi4SPic2SkZFNdqtoiAsxknSpfxJsCXmY 1KAqDGUxkGTx3aG1TSKGZ5ZLWayXtziXwC 1KyJvGD2vYkHUziH2GUhd8GwoQXrUxogQR No luck, not yet. Title: Re: Open letter/question to Satoshi Post by: soulcity on November 13, 2020, 01:56:38 AM Closed letter/question to Satoshi
Satoshi, if you read this please PM me for the closed letter. Thanks Title: Re: Open letter/question to Satoshi Post by: Warkop on November 13, 2020, 08:19:54 AM I am just curious if satoshi is still following some topics here about bitcoin or that he is let it all go. If I would had invent such thing like bitcoin I could just disappear. I think that satoshi is still there and still observes all the topics on this forum, it's just that he doesn't show his identity to everyone, because if satoshi shows his real identity to everyone then it is very dangerous for him because all important keys and data about Bitcoin must be all will be threatened, so don't worry everything will be fine. If you find Bitcoin and just disappear, everything will fall apart and it won't develop like Bitcoin now.Title: Re: Open letter/question to Satoshi Post by: mimi84 on November 15, 2020, 07:15:09 AM Everboby want to have Satoshi’s key. But there is a chance that he never knew himself that he had the keys and that is throw it. If keys represents money he does not care. He could have found something more precious :)
Title: Re: Open letter/question to Satoshi Post by: testghijk on January 20, 2021, 03:06:57 PM Satoshi's keys lost?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5309644.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5309644.0) He can't lose them. Title: Re: Open letter/question to Satoshi Post by: Pizzalover420 on January 20, 2021, 03:18:41 PM Open letter/question to Satoshi:
You are a bankers bitch, They will get all of your coins for free in the end because of network fees and your friends and family`s future generations will be slaves again to central bankers. "somebody kicked the hornets nest and I am a pussy". Stop being a bitch pussy, there is nothing to fear but fear itself. Title: Re: Open letter/question to Satoshi Post by: crytolog on January 20, 2021, 05:07:26 PM Dear Satoshi;
create a puzzle and give some clues to us. regards; |