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I think he or she will, something in my heart tells me they are still alive. I don`t think they will reveal their location or who they are, but I do think they will post on this forum in the next 5 years. It is only a matter of time before some big big rogue miners or bitcoin devs do something he or she do not like or see`s a problem with and they will have to come back and have a voice in the matter.

It will probably start by him or her saying something like this.

"Keep using the longest chain" or maybe "use this chain instead from now on"

I did a poll earlier a few months ago I think 19 out of 20 people said they would use whatever satoshi said.

He,She or They.No one knows on where is Satoshi.We wont able to know if he would came back into this forum but one things for sure if hes still alive that he do visits this forum.

We might not even know that he's just posting using other new accounts and lurking on the forum he made.Lots of satoshi talks ever since but we cant even see a glimpse of his shadows.

It is conceivable that someone who isn't Satoshi but who was active around the time of the birth of bitcoin could have access to a private key or two which have been linked to Satoshi. It is also conceivable that if Satoshi is still alive, he/she/they no longer has access to these private keys, either intentionally or by mistake. Signing from a private key is therefore not a great metric to use. It proves possession, but it does not necessarily prove identity.

Satoshi's account has been locked for several years, and theymos has stated he will only unlock it following a valid PGP signature:

Possible.

It is quite mixed emotions when that thing would happen. I think I will be very happy to see someone we all talk about gives his/her/their view regarding current issues right now in Crypto.

He is the author of Bitcoin and I think everything that he says will create a big impact on the community.

Probably not, and definitively not for this. It would go against his/her principles to be endorsing blockchains...

According to some people, core devs have already done important changes he/she would object, but there is absolute silence.

he left the forum years ago, if he is alive, then he must have already built his life, must have a wife and children. must have made your family. why would he risk coming here to the forum and risking discovery and exposing his family? If we look at what is going on with Libra, we can get an idea of what would happen if they discovered satoshi's identity and one thing is certain: good things would not happen to satoshi if he revealed his identity.

I think he is here right now. Satoshi has been joining the signature campaign.  ;D

Since time we've been looking for him, threads about him created to investigate his construction of sentences and the time of the day when he post in the forum and people come up with a conclusion as to who he can possibly be. But all these are just going to be guesses. He is not coming back, the man wants his privacy.

If using the same account that Satoshi use, it will.be impossible but if coming to this forum to post and check how the forum is fairing is pretty possible. If he or she or group are here they wouldn't notify us either, so, probably they are  somewhere on this forum watching, most of them that where here when the forum start are still here actively, more possible that some are still here with us.

I am sure the person would like their coins if miners teamed up vs the network, I think the only way to stop it is hardware bans, but the miners will control the network, so yah I don`t know how you would fix the issue.

51% attack = dumb to allow happen.

satoshi would have a much better chance if it was 51% of the people, not hashrate to keep the longest chain as the main chain. Also it would not be a 51% attack then, it would just be a decision by the majority of the users.

I mean look into the future, whatever miner has the most miners, will make the most, and 1 miner will own all other farms in the end, use common sense.
We see it in farming today, I cannot compete with the big boys because they get gas cheaper in bulk, fert cheaper in bulk, baskets cheaper in bulk, small farms are all going under to the big corporation farms.

The same will happen with electricity to power the bitcoin farms. They will be able to get miners cheaper in bulk and electricity cheaper in bulk, all small miners will get pushed out or bought up by the big boy, otherwise they will operate at a loss.

What if satoshi see`s revealing himself to theymos is a threat? I guess there is other ways he could come forward without this forum. He could actually send bitcoins inbetween wallets to create messages in his first 50 starter wallets, like use binary code by sending .01001000 .01100101 .01101100 .01101100 .01101111 .00100001 btc in between wallets would mean hello. I guess he or she could just encrypt a message in them as well.

Maybe he or she or they? will never come back to the forum but they may do something like this.

I think that it could happen, but I do not believe that Satoshi after all this time suddenly come back. But in any case his sudden statement will make a big splash and I'm sure almost everyone will listen to him.

this forum full of shit, very low quality information include to much scams and people even dont aware we have huge problem right now which need to be solved about scaling blockchain to hold huge amount of transaction per second for mass adaption while most people here even dont know this problem exist, while there are coins says they solved it which is strange while top experts still didnt found protocol data structure which solved this problem..

and what interesting you if satoshi is here or not or if he come back?  the people behind bitcoin know where to reach  and where quality information can be found and top discussion.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xoza4Fvk81M&t=535s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xoza4Fvk81M&t=535s)

listen in the beginning in this video .. this is where smart people discuss great ideas and share

people even dont know how much protocols out there and what the difference how data structure it self .. to speak about this here its like explain to someone when bitcoin was out and after 11 years most of the people here dont know shit.

so the second guy in the video, to answer his question on how to make changes safety, just clone the shit and run a testnet version of it, you know like how game developers have a ptr server or pbe, just do that before you make any changes to the real chain.

also you say bitcoin has a private premine key in one your post? are you sure? because I call bullshit.

I mean if you don`t like bitcointalk, use reddit or bitcoin.com forum or bitcoin mit forum you talk about.

Just know bitcoin.com was created by a guy who tried to manipulate people into using his product, by what we call phishing, which is actually illegal and bitcoin.org is the real website that does not try $hill a $cam.  BCH and BSV both should be in jail, well Roger Ver and Craig Wright, The people that use them should be in a mental hospital.

1. you make funny of people from mit top minds and this is the reason why anonymous people reach to them , this is the top minds out there, and no body else...there is where quality information flow.

2. to make fun from mit experts its show how much dick head you are and slolwy you will be 40 then 50 and then game over for you and your bullshit non sense.

3. i never talked about bitcoin sv or bitcoin.com or other shit so you real crazy.

4. you even dont know what is protocol and talk about some non sense.

5. time will put you in the right corner, while the great minds change and far away from talking bullshit, mit and other coll places nice information flow there compare to here, you even dont know what is protocol and how much them out there and what we can mix between them and other shit.

6. yes there was premine by the team behind bitcoin and only the owners have access to it and how it can be bullshit, ?? you so fucking unhealthy mentaly dude...the fatser you will get to aged the better, for your self!

7. next projects will be for with pgp key or much more advanced tech so no body can steal the ring...and claim its this guy because they name is x behind this project while if yes he need to have a pgp key or more advanced way to prove, its will debunk all of them.

even answer you its a shame

timebits



this why top anonymous peoplereach to people in MIT and places that similar , its where ideas become reality without illusions.

99% of crypto comunity wait for mass scale and adaption while staoshi people already in the beginning said there will be problem with scaling hhhhhh


there also problem with ico scams , which also need to solved and vitalik and few students from mit found a way to solve this, you far away from the ball park and the reason is you and no body else and never blame no body, yet the room around you is full of bullshit which also effect the situation , this is why when people wanna get deep the rabbit hole they stick to mit and oxford and top places where real information p0p

Well hope so, if the real satoshi is alive hoping he/ she come back posting here in forum about the success of he/she creation, but we need to admit no one can know who is he/she.

for bitcoin's sake, i hope that never happens.

one of the reasons bitcoin is so superior to altcoins is its decentralized and consensus-based development process. unlike ethereum or ripple or bitcoin cash or BSV---which have small numbers of extremely influential developers and decision makers who can economically coerce users into following their forks---bitcoin development is merit-based, consensus-based. with bitcoin, there is no vitalik buterin figure to pressure the network into accepting the ethereum foundation's roadmap.

i believe this is one of the reasons satoshi left and also why he/they will never return.


that's terrible. if developers are deciding the blockchain state, then the network doesn't operate by decentralized consensus at all!

       Maybe he is one of newbies who are very knowledgeable already about crypto currency and in the forum as well , or anyone else but wherever he is , the name Satoshi were in the bitcoin forum always and  forever , that's one thing which is very sure .

No one can certainly tell if he will post anything, he/she may have been reading comments with another account. But should he/she dares to make any post, then this forum will experience an exponential growth because of influx of new users who would want to ask questions, although some persons may think his account may have been hacked.

I don't think so. It would expose his/her/their identity which is dangerous at this point because of the holdings in his/her/their wallet. Well, there's a possibility that it will happen in the future though but it's slim. At this point, I think we should just ignore this topic as there might be a reason why he/she/they hid from the public. We should just respect it.

Years back he has used the forum and has discussed a lot. People who were active during those days were active at the present. Just making some posts doesn't gonna reveal the identity of Satoshi.

As described there might be some reason for staying anonymous. It is his decision lets respect it.

His identity would be at risk, he know that and I believe he will not come back and post, he will protect his identity to remain anonymous.
I think he is still watching the forum, but not gonna post in his real account.

I am looking forward that one day, Satoshi will post back here in forum. But I think it is really impossible now, if he is alive or not he is satisfied now with the results that the forum, the bitcoin that he created is well fine now. Maybe he lost all his private keys or accounts and passwords here in forum that he never visits this for some quite time now. But still, we'll never know. Maybe, he's just watching us with different account. Too many maybe's and if's but we can't really know and we are just predicting.

Do you thank Satoshi is a he, a she or even a they?

For me, Satoshi is not even lurking this forum on daily basis, but he's also posting around in different sections with a normal username.
He doesn't need to reveal "hey, i'm Satoshi, nice to meet you all".. i mean, he created all of this, if i was him, i would lurk and post around without any problem.
BTC is his son, he need to take care of him, watching him growing every day is the best thing possible.. holy shit, from an idea look where he is now, i would be super proud of this :D

I think this is not the right section for this better move this to off topic since this is not a bitcoin discussion topic

We don’t know that he might be posting using other account though he is not revealing himself and just joining random discussion..

While Theymos locked Satoshi’s main account there are lot of option for him to contribute in some discussions here.

So yes he might be posting or already posting without anyone noticing him

The last time that "Satoshi" was active in a forum was the Cypher Punk forums in the 80's. There was a debate back then about the privacy of those transactions, in which a lot of them are trying to attempt to solve an "unsolved problem".

They did struggled until Satoshi cracked the code after the stock market crash sometime in 2008. I just don't know if he's still alive or dead by now. Everyone here could create a fake "Satoshi Nakamoto" username here (like BSV's Craig Wright who failed to prove that he is Satoshi Nakamoto), so we may not know if that "real" Satoshi would actually come back and prove it to all of us.

he can always disguise as someone else to post in forum if he misses this forum that much, all that is required is create i don't think he would want to risk using his old account here even though i don't think the account has any personal information except just been known by the name, either way there is no treat to his privacy.

I completely agree with your opinion, and some people should try to better understand what is Bitcoin. Strength of Bitcoin is not in one person, but just the opposite - we are all reason why Bitcoin is still live and it is going forward.

The most obvious example of centralized bitcoin is Roger Ver or CW Faketoshi shitcoins, and this is probably main reason why Satoshi Nakamoto is decided to pull back and remain anonymous.

It would also not be wise to appear now or ever, because it would most likely end up as Julian Assange.

I think not. Besides, everyone doesn't care about it :-\
Even if Satoshi exists, it’s just a man, what can happen if he will come back? - nothing will happen. People will write about this news in newspapers, some tv-news and that's it. I don't impose my opinion on anyone, but only share it.

Very unlikely indeed ...

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I don't know. I see that some people believe that the guy who created it all is dead. Craig knew him, basically stole his contributions and now says he's Satoshi, even though it was more that guy, than him. I heard that the family of the deceased is accusing Craig of this, at least. But I do hope that the mastermind behind Bitcoin is still alive. And you're right when you write he/she, since even though most of people just assume it's a guy, it could well be a gal. In fact, a girl has an additional reason to hide identity, just like women did throughout history: so that the invention is not undermined because of the sexist views of those who use it. The bitcointalk account would be a good point for me, but then again it can probably be accessed by someone else who knows the real Satoshi but is not Satoshi. I bet Craig knows the real one, he's just too much of a d*ck to admit that it isn't him.

The first thing we should settle first is he still alive or not there are theories that he is in prison but it's not yet verified, we will never know, we are waiting for something that's unlikely to happen if we cannot establish that he is still alive or any of his close relatives can prove that he is still alive and active, I love him to come back to us after the many ups and downs we encountered along the way.

I do not know whether he will appear or not,but I still do not understand why he does not publish messages further?What's mystical?It seems to me that if there was a dialogue between the Creator of bitcoin and the community, even more people would know about cryptocurrencies.

Yes, I think we will see a post of satoshi here again

But only if we have a HUGE news, for the good or bad, I'm sure satoshi are with us in the forum, but only as a watcher

maybe it could be a promotion strategy at the beginning, first maybe not many people want to know satoshi's profile, but once prices soar, many people want to know. but in my opinion, Satoshi will not bring up his identity at any time, may be he is enjoying the fruits of his current work

He/she can if the forum become more important than currenct task right now.
I think it's small chance for happening but this is world of crypto

Who knows...

I also hope for that, i wish him a good health until we make to the world market and make bitcoin the best currency ever. Satoshi is hard to find, he’s still the living proof of anonymity that’s why I adore him and I’m really thankful. Satoshi is surely proud about bitcoin right now, let’s wait for that time.

It is all possible. Satoshi might or might not come. And all this depends on whether Santoshi is dead or alive. If Satoshi comes it will surely be for something huge, not mere voicing out what chain to use or not to.

You know, since we don't really know Satoshi, maybe he,she or they is/are lurking somewhere on this forum, and we don't know it.

Is also my opinion.

Do you think satoshi will ever come back and post on this forum?

Jameson Lopp @lopp:
https://twitter.com/lopp/status/1132296263146319878

no  i do not think he will come back here.
be course i wouldn't do that it will bring to much attentions then.

regards

If satoshi comes back to the forum is because bitcoins gets fucked up, if the machine keeps working fine he will not have a real reason to come here.

At least some of us want to see him posting, that would mean he still alive  ;D

We don`t really know the future. Maybe, Satoshi will soon proclaim that he is the founder of king bitcoin but maybe not. I am thinking that he has plan why he kept on secreting his identity. Many people want him to back and post here yet, we don`t know if he is alive. Anyway, I want also to see the real Satoshi Nakamoto soon because without him/them, we don`t have opportunities and money right now. Crypto gives a lot of open doors to the people and Satoshi must be acknowledged by that.

Satoshi doesn't want to disturb Bitcoin, if he returned, everyone would worship him and ask him to lead Bitcoin development. His every word could carry enough weight to shake the market, both because he is the creator and because he sits on the biggest pile of coins. He understands how bad it would be for Bitcoin if he became the kind of central points of failure that Bitcoin is supposed to remove. Maybe Satoshi is active on github and this forum under some other name and entertains himself reading all these threads about him, but there's no chance he will log in under the original account and post again.

Satoshi aim of creating bitcoin is for anonymous transaction without a third party so I don't expect him to come and post on this forum if he does he might be at his own risk thus he can be traced and tracked while his security might be at stake who knows whether FBI and CIA are working underground and closely monitoring him to reveal his identity I believed his not showing up here is good for bitcoin project and its not going to add up any thing. Well if he is closely watching the forum the better personally his anonymity is good.

Hummm. I think if Satoshi can appear again somewhere, no one can verify him. I heard someone say that his account at bitcointalk was not working either, as he probably didn't exist anymore. but if lucky enough to see him come back. That is really a blessing. The community will witness the monument of bitcoin and crypto - that will be the big day of the cryptocurrency market.

I don't know if he will but it would definitely benefit everyone if he posts some good information and motivates everyone towards his dream, after all Bitcoins has reached great heights.

We cannot even determine who really satoshi is. That "Satoshi" can be a single person or it can be a group of person. It can be a female and thus can be a male. No one knows. If Satoshi comeback no one will ever notice necause he can be under a different username. We do not know.

I'm sure that Satoshi Nakamoto had/has a very strong reason to not reveal himself and if he kept this secret all this time I don't think something will make him appear from the curtains. Unless if something bad happens with bitcoin. By something bad I mean a major flaw in the code, but I don't think that will happen. Bitcoin has been proven to resist the test of time so far and personally I am only looking for bright things to happen from now on.
HODL Bitcoin  :D

I think Satoshi Nakamoto will come back and show himself or herself if cryptocurrency is already very stable. As of now we just pray that cryptocurrency become very stable and everyone will have the knowledge to use it so Satoshi will be happy to acknowledge his works and show himself up. Just a thought.

It is possible that Satoshi may come back and post to this forum. But I recently asked the same question and I received a response from Theymos.  Satoshi's account has been locked on this forum. Do to hackers hacking accounts and trying to scam people I believe his account was also hacked trying to run a scam project or scam money.. Theymos response was this.. In order for Satoshi to return to the forumn he would have to contact Theymos directly. He would then have to post a PGP key from his known address signing and verifying that he really is the Satoshi.  That would be the only way you would ever see the Satoshi account again on this forum.  Noone can unlock it accept for Theymos himself.

So if for some reason Satoshi did misplace his keys or Satoshi no longer has access to his Private keys we will probably never see his account active again...   Now I have no Idea what his plans are for all of those Bitcoin but I do not I would have sold atleast a couple when BTC hit 20k  considering he has almost 1 million BTC it would be hard to not sell atleast a hundred or so and buy a house. So that leaves me to believe Satoshi is either dead. Or no longer has access to his Bitcoin or they are locked away somewhere and will only have access to them when they unlock!!!

Here is a link to the history of the bitcointalk hacks: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4405796.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4405796.0)


This is the link to Theymos response about locking The Satoshi account: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=186939.msg1943004#msg1943004 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=186939.msg1943004#msg1943004)

If he/she/ want to comeback to this forum to share something he will be needing to verify it is him to theymos since theymos said the account is locked and need to be manually verified in order to get unlocked again.And im sure he will not do that because he is hiding his identity for years now and he doesnt want to reveal himself now.

Although it's impossible, I hope Satoshi Nakamoto will come when cryptocurrency is in trouble and present as a hero and overcome difficulties to provide solutions.
no one knows where satoshi nakamoto is, whether it still exists or not because he is a hero to us all and makes us live better in economics and finance.

I doubt he/she/they would return. It's kind of like the heroic act of an anonymous person and well he left like that. His name was renown all over the world but he didn't try and bask under that glory. He left the community silently without anyone of us knowing who he/she/they really was. And I doubt that even if he did come back, he/she/they won't give his/her/their voice into matters at hand in that time cause well it's a growing community. He/she/they made it as a type of anonymous transaction without a third party so his/her/their goal was not to make it under his/her/their control or under his/her/ther watch but rather just see what the community can do to build it up from what he/she/they started. And it's going pretty well imo.

I really hope he will visit here for at least I feel his existence even once in my lifetime. Making a reply or post under his thread is already a big achievement for me which I could be proud of and can happily pass this story to my future grandchilds.

But there's a side that of me being skeptical about this because I think he is no longer interested on getting so much attention, he is now contented living peacefully — far from any noise. Another thing that bothers me is the threat for his privacy after doing such thing but well there are VPNs already so nothing to worry about the issue of tracking one's IP address. So maybe he is just not interested any longer that's why we still can't see even his shadow.

He is real satoshi nakamoto. and he is the most historic person in this crypto in my opinion. and he doesn't want to be exposed. and said he was someone who was humble and ordinary. I myself hope he can become part of this forum again and add more features on crypto community. he is genius.

Its hard to believe that he's not already interested with his invention yet I'm pretty sure that he's already seeing on how far bitcoin do able to reach on.
He's happy on what are the effects and opportunities given by bitcoins existence. Dead or alive it doesn't matter yet we've known on how big is the achievement where bitcoin able to attain.We cant conclude yet if he has no plans to go back into this forum or not.

When he is no more interested to reveal his identity, we expecting him to come forward to reveal is senseless. Just because he made an innovation and stays hidden it doesn't mean he is humble and ordinary. It is not the way to predict his character and behavior. If he expose himself surely he will be facing more serious issues from governments which is the major reason for staying anonymous.

Not unless she/he is dead then there’s no chance at all,but as long as He’s Alive I am sure one day we will be surprised by her/he’s presence.as a creator of this great innovation for the most important thing human has created (Currency/Fiat/Money) I’m sure Satoshi Nakamoto will never abandoned this forum as it was the first and the most used forum about cryptocurrency (most specially Bitcoin as it as indeed mentioned in the theme Bitcointalk.org)and besides the million bitcoin on his account for sure will never be forgotten and will be withdrawn in future by Satoshi

He will ever come back then it's not definitely not on this forum. Just think about how easy it is to say 'hi! I'm the real satoshi' and just posting some bunch of terms. Anyone can do that and it's so easy to make people believe in this forum even there's no proof and just a post. If satoshi will come back by any chance then he will go straight away for the press conference with mainstream media.

There will come a day that he will post on this forum, or even might reveal himself in the public. Though this could only be possible if he's still alive and kickin'. He might also leave a last message before he dies. Wherever he is, he's proud of his creation, doing well and being strong.

It's true that Satoshi still exists, and is still monitoring the situation of Bitcoin or even this forum, but he doesn't want to call himself Satoshi, because in my opinion if he truly recognizes that he as satoshi will affect the price of Bitcoin and that will have a big impact on this issue . There may be times when he will return and do not know when the time will come.

Maybe they comeback someday and post something in this forum but for now low chance to happen because they or he or she want to ebcome a anonymous that no one knows what is their Real identity. But it's a big help if he really comeback to this forum and post anything because people for sure will trust more to bitcoin and because of this it can possible for the bitcoin to rise again the value.

There are good possibilities that Satoshi might login and say something on this forum, but if He will do so, I don't think he is gonna use his old account. He might  even be  active on this forum using a different username. But on the other hand,  the basic purpose of Bitcoin as decentralized peer to peer payment system as stated by Satoshi in the Bitcoin's whitepaper is already achieved so I don't really seeing the reason why Satoshi will think of making a post here.  We shouldn't stress ourselves trying to find the identity of Satoshi.  

maybe, why not !! this is a forum that he formed with his trusted partner, someday in the future, I'm sure he will definitely post something again in this forum. I am very sure that he is not really separated from this forum

What makes you think that he/she/they still exists? Satoshi left a long time ago and if he wants to be here he can make it even if Satoshi lost/forgot their account but that is impossible. I already doubt if they would ever come back to this forum to discuss something about of making an update on Bitcoin.

I don't know if Satoshi still exist or maybe they were just blending in to these people who helped to update the Bitcoin. Maybe someone already know Satoshi yet they choose to stay quiet for the sake of their privacy, who knows?

I am not sure he will reveal his identity ever. But he can post on this forum again, and it will be a normal thing. As he is the founder of this great technology, he made a revolution in the world, and he might come to add more features into it, or if any bad times come for Bitcoin, he may come here and post updates. There is a possibility, and I am sure he was a guy!

I personally believe that Satoshi will ever come back and post on this forum. this was proven several months ago when someone named Craig S. Wright claimed to the public as the creator of bitcoin and as a major part of the team that created bitcoin. And after this news was widely circulated, on April 1st 2019 surprisingly Satoshi Nakamoto reactivated his account for the first time and posted that he was not Craig S. Wright. so I think satoshi might reappear if there is a big news that is very closely related to bitcoin

Bitcoin is flawless and therefore satoshi does not need to come up to justify anything.



Real Satoshi is dead as if he was alive he would have come in front of public. If he is not dead, then he is doing a big mistake of not revealing himself because other cheap people are using this as an advantage to themselves and claiming to be the satoshi.

No, he is sipping topic punch on his own island outside his mansion on some beach somewhere enjoying the free life of no woe or worry and endless money and the ability to have almost anything. There is no reason to come back, he has already helped the world and is already a huge success. Noone needs fame when you already filthy unspeakably rich. Some people say what if he lost his private keys? I think he can just start a new currency and get the money back that way. Maybe not as much but still plenty for one single man.