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I am not saying that I believe his story what so ever. Lets say Satoshi Nakamoto DID really lose his keys due to a freakish accident. Would there be any way he could actually prove himself.

If Satoshi was to log into the Satoshi Account on this forumn and say I lost all of my Bitcoin keys, would anyone believe him?

Would a post here be enough proof?

If THE Satoshi logged in after almost 10 years of being Non Active and said word for word what the Newest Satoshi Scammer is saying but said it on this forumn would the community believe him, or would everyone just think his founder account had been compromised? I am curiouse on everyones thoughts on the subject. If from a previouse satoshi acct he said the same thing. I feel I would kind of trust him...

Nope, I don't believe there is, and that's why this is going to be an ominous situation for eternity.

Satoshi can't log in to his forum account, afaik theymos is the only one who have access to satoshi's account. Also signing messages from a bitcoin address is not the only way for him to prove he's the real Satoshi.

If his account becomes active and starts posting I believe it's him since he's given enough proof to theymos.

If I may ask, why can't satoshi log into his forum account?. Please I will be very happy if you share your reasons behind why you think he can't log in to his forum account if he decides to access the account again...

That seems like reason enough for why Satoshi could not log into his account via this forumn. However I did not know that it was locked. That was definetly a smart call on Theymos part. Anyone could hack the Satoshi Account. And posting their new shitcoins (The Tabu Rosa) Lmao Good work Theymos!!! Also good looking out!

Then the creator of Bitcoin can't prove himself anymore.But this is trivial.

The bigger problem is those coins locked in p2pk addresses can never be sent to safer(QC resistent) addresses by their owner.

The reason why he can't access it and theymos secured the account because it's going to get hacked. There's a time where the forum's information was leaked and someone was selling it in a marketplace. This was announced before and theymos advised everyone to change their passwords if they haven't changed it during 2013.

Here's a good thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4405796.0) about the hacks that happened here before.

To be honest, I don't think the real Satoshi would want to reveal his identity. He didn't reveal it when Bitcoin value was next to nothing. What makes you think he will now that people know what his worth is? If he does reveal himself, he will be dead before long. People see him walk pass and imagine a money bag walking. 1,000,000 units of Bitcoin at current price is no joke. That kind of imagination will surely expose his life to danger. Again, whether the PK to the 1million btc is lost or not there is never ever going to be the 21million total supply in circulation. Some holders have also lost access to their PK too.

it is not a singular private key to be lost containing 1 million bitcoin!!!
1 million is the exaggeration of a guess that started a couple of years ago. basically people start by guessing that Satoshi was the only one mining bitcoin for M number of months then they count the number of blocks (B) mined in that period and also the block rewards (R=50) and multiply these 3 (M*B*R) and come up with a number. which means there are somewhere around B number of keys to different addresses.

With all due respect but even the most trust-worthy person should not be trusted in a trust-less system.

By definition, the trust-worthy person is a person and therefore fallible and consequently cannot be trusted.

It is possible that his account has been hacked, but that is not a problem that prevents him from logging in (the executives can reissue the account).
The reason he doesn't log in is that he just doesn't want to, I think so.

I appreciate that link btw. I went in and changed my password it should take atleast a couple of thousand years to guess it now!!!

Judging from my math, it is about time for another breach!  That and all the new altcoins I have been mining there is no telling what info got out!

Luckily I used a different device for different reasons!!!

Thanks again!  It was a great read!

I agree with the opinion that Satoshi is probably not going to reveal his identity or touch his old Bitcoin that was known to the public (if it existed). IIRC he said he's working on a new project and after that, he went awol.

If we see him again, it's probably when he announced or publish his latest work with a new pseudonym. He might already online now, but he's hiding perfectly so nobody knows.

It's very possible he lost the keys as those bitcoins were not moved for some time. Or he might be dead.

The proof required to show that you are the real Satoshi Nakamoto is not with Satoshi's user account on Bitcointalk.org.  ;D  Satoshi can only prove that he/she or they are Satoshi Nakamoto, if he/she or they signs one of the early Bitcoin addresses that were known to be mined by Satoshi Nakamoto.

Nobody has ever signed one of those early Bitcoin addresses and many people are saying that he/she or they lost the private keys for those Bitcoin addresses.  ::)  The likelihood of Satoshi Nakamoto losing those private keys are very high, considering it's value and that he/she or they have not touched a single coin, since it was mined.  ;D

I personally believe that a brilliant mind as it was Satoshi Nakamoto did not lose his private keys, he knew their significance before anyone else could even comprehend it. Fact that coins are not moved to this day tell us two possible things, Satoshi intention was never to enrich himself with his invention or he is just dead.

There is no reason for pointless debates what really happened to Satoshi or why his coins are not moving all this years. Simply because they are unavailable, those coins give more value to coins in today circulation.

I think that if Satoshi wants to tell us something, he will easily find a way to do this. ;)

The only sure proof of ownership of the Satoshi bitcoin is the private keys, While it is unlikely that someone other than himself accesses his bitcoi ntalk account, it is not an impossible task to accomplish compared to hacking the private keys.

We should be as well aware that if there will be a movement of Satoshi's BTC, it will be tracked by everyone and could have disastrous effect.
Why? If these BTC would be moved then:

1. There will be possibly a panic on the market (is Satoshi selling own BTC or planning to do so soon? Does it mean that Satoshi lost own trust in Bitcoin?)
2. OTC transaction could mean kidnapping Satoshi/seller acting on behalf of Satoshi for ransom. Of course there could be OTC transaction to some whales which are huge financial institutions, but this would go against the idea behind Bitcoin
3. Selling on most of the exchanges/markets require KYC. Even if there will be someone with power of attorney to act on behalf of Satoshi, Satoshi's identity must be revealed. Then there will be a hacker hunt for the KYC of that exchange. Even if he would give BTC to someone close, then the KYC hunt would as well take place and as such, and selling such BTC would mean real danger for owner of Satoshi's BTC.
4. FATF recommendations of this year (to be implemented within 12 months), are as well a threat to Satoshi - one of them is a  requirement of the sending wallet owner KYC verification.

So then moving these BTC is way too dangerous, and will become even more - just to say 1 000 000 BTC value is ~10 700 900 900 USD, and it is more than enough to become a target for a variety of thugs/hackers.

There are a few reasons why Satoshi not revealing his self back again on the internet and claiming that he is the real founder of Bitcoin. First, prone to hackers, --a lot of Bitcoin that Satoshi had may put or his life in risk if someone knows that his back again. Secondly, is for what reason that he revealing his self after hiding for how many years, so I think his plan is to remain anonymously. Nevertheless, I will believe if he could sign a message on the first bitcoin mine address that first he created and lastly when he gives us a message here in our forum which is he made for us.

I would really like to believe that he already lost the keys and therefore no one could ever touch it anymore, it is also a good thing that he remains anonymous and not go public. This two scenarios are link, maybe he can prove himself to be satoshi with his private keys or someone that really knows him  who the public knows that he is legit, but who could be that guy? It is really hard to think about this things so it is surely better be history.

he must have lost it. losing private keys is like losing all your btc.
if indeed he claims he is the real satoshi, he will still be ridiculed for he will need to prove by signing message or send btc to an address and if he can not provide all these he will fail.  granting he is the real satoshi but he can't provide all these information, he will still be ignored.

If someone is smart enough to create something that majority of the digital world was looking for decades, he wont make a foolish accident that could make him loose him key in a freakish accident, we can only speculate about the situation until the creator himself comes up with the proof and reveal his story.

This is being confirmed that the admin has locked the account and only Theymos has control over the account.
 
You can believe in any story you want but have some rational thoughts too once in a while  :P.

One who has innovated such a technology will always have the responsibility to keep his private keys secure. He hasn't revealed himself to the outer world, but there will be few users who have had conversations with him during the early days. This way Satoshi can prove himself even if some sort of accident occurs.

A genius like him will never have his private keys saved somewhere else, surely he will have things memorized.

you can say that he can lost his private keys  . private keys are more important than a bitcointalk account because it holds cryptocurrencies , what im saying is that there is also a possibility that he can lost his passwords or forum account and its also suspicious if he becames active one day not unless if he can sign a message using a private key or he can provide other proof that he is legit but i dont think that staking a btc address exist that time on this forum  .

Even if Satoshi is able to get the private key for the for the account, alot of people would still not believe because the argument at the point is proving if the key was not compromised at any point in time because anyone who who have access to the controls the wallet. The point I am trying to make is that there is no point over flogging the issue as to whether he is coming back or not and for him to stay in the shadows, there is a good reason for it which I am very comfortable with because its all for the best and the implication for coming out is not we all want to witness ourselves.

I would. He had turned up a few times on btt after that point when he lost his HDD. That means he didn't loss with Acer his password to forum and now can prove who he is by login via satoshi account.

well as long as he does not sign the wallet noone would believe that he is the real satoshi. but i dont think he will EVER reveal himself, it would be a big surprise for me if he does

I would not like to believe that the creator of bitcoin will loss his private key. If somehow really he loss it then I do not see how he will prove himself as satoshi.  Because community will not believe without sign a message from his address due to so many people's already claimed as satoshi. Everything could be hacked include emails, but private key can't hacked. So this is only strong way to prove himself.

I don't think such a thing will ever happen to Satoshi and good to know that  you accept that fact that it will not happen and that you are just saying it base on assumption which may not likely come to pass. And if eventually such a thing happen to Satoshi then we will believe on one condition only he signed a message from one of his popular wallet.

All these theories are just that.  For my vote, there is absolutely NO way Satoshi lost his/her private keys.  He may be dead (doubtful) but if so then he is not the one claiming to be Satoshi now is he?  I cannot imagine seeing evidence that would convince me if he/she can't sign the btc address.

I wont believe that it will gonna happen that satoshi will lost his private key.the mind of satoshi cant be down.a smart person like satoshi cannot be lost his private key.he will probably doing a back up for all private key he does.for a man like satoshi who made a of crypto he is so smart and I know he wont allow to lost his private key.I think this things gonna happen if satoshi lost his mind but I doubt it he is a such smart people.if ever he lost private key I know he has s lot og òption to make it better.everything now is possible.

This is a bitcoin forum, the only hard evidence that will be accepted to prove his identity is being in control of the addresses that we know belong to satoshi, anything less than that and everyone will question the legitimacy of those claims, if we found ourselves in that scenario it will be way more likely that someone found a way to hack into the account of satoshi than the possibility of satoshi coming back to say that he lost his keys, after all why would satoshi comeback to say that? Whether he still has control of his keys or not it does not matter if he does not move his coins.

Satoshi is too wise to hiccup in something he created.

Well, sometimes even smart people do stupid things. There's even a book written on this topic!

Even if, as he contends, control of known addresses was gone with his bad HDD there  must be  skills yet in him  that once helped in  Bitcoin creation.  He  could use it again  to prove who he actually is. No one else  than he has a better understanding of Bitcoin that still  has some unresolved problems. 

What story are you talking of mate? Was their ever a story claiming that satoshi lost his key? I don’t think he did lose those keys for good and the key is safe with him, what satoshi is just waiting for is that moment where bitcoin will be very expensive and once that happens, that might make him the richest man in earth and also the most influential man.

If satoshi even lost his key, he wrote the system and I am sure that he would know how to boycott it and ten gain access to his account, only satoshi can do what most of us cannot do, and I am sure that if satoshi is to gain access to anyone’s account today, he will surely be able to do so, talk more of his own personal account, which I total disagree with anyone including him if claim that the private key is lost.

I agree with you here, without the signature from his address, every claim of identity becomes worthless and not to be trusted.
There is no way satoshi is coming on his bitcointalk account again, as his account currently is being secured by theymos to avoid impersonation, he'll first have to prove himself to be the actual creator of the bitcoin before the account can be handed over to him.
We just need to let go of all this theories, speculations, and guess works, and just believe satoshi is fine wherever he is, just as his creation(bitcoin)is fine in our hands.

Satoshi is fine and well, wherever he is. That is what we all should take home from these discussions. Even if he no longer lives, he has made one of the greatest impacts in the human history and will forever lives on. There are few people like him ever lived and history will always remember all the geniuses, past and present.

Only rare breeds could create something like Bitcoin with no intention of ever profiting from it nor ever taking the glory. We salute him, and humanity will forever remain grateful to him for this reason, for creating one of the most amazing inventions ever made and giving it out freely.

Dear Mr. Satoshi Nakamoto,

Wherever you are and whatever your real identity is, heaven will always remember you.

Thank you!


Now, I think theymos knows a lot

There is actually no way that the real Satoshi is gonna reveal his identity, a man/woman who decided to create an anonymous and almost untraceable digital currency would definitely wants to be anonymous and live his private life. He/she wouldn't be out there claiming to be the creator of the Bitcoins and birthing cryptos into existence.

What about other coin developer that built those other crypto coins that we currently see today ?  We can see thier devs on public and they are not afraid to expose thier identity even if they knew that someon can get jelous and do threats with them but they are still here alive and kicking until now  .  nothing really wrong with that to show up and it does not matter at all even if your creation was anonymous or decentralized

Lol, this is a troll right?

Not your keys, not your Bitcoin so also not your cryptographic identity if you lose gpg keys.

I guess so. Craig Wright has already "proven" big time that without proper cryptographic proof of having the keys, the big majority will never believe you whatever you try.
Of course, it could trigger a background check, it could make some people believe him, but .. only could and some.

Hoaxtoshi is a liar and fraud, and honestly doesn't does not understand how cryptography works. He simply hopes to pull wool over enough eyes to create publicity for himself.

That's correct. Still, he has tried to make people believe he's Satoshi and failed, and the main reason is that he didn't provide the cryptographic proof. And that's what we discuss about now.
If somebody hacks Satoshi's bitcointalk account trying to make the world believe he's Satoshi... will he be any better than CSW? Nope.

How can satoshi the creator of btc, such a genius lost his private key? no i highly doubt that, the man is too smart to loss something that valuable, i won't be surprise if those private keys are customized 8)
and don't forget that once satoshi signed with those private keys that will send signal of his come back and that is something he is not interested in at least for the past 10 years and i don't see the reason why now.

I assume no one knows, since the coins have not moved for quite some time.

Then there is a possibility that he cannot prove that he is Satoshi Nakamoto, the only way he can do that is only by  access of his Bitcoin through private key, but I am not going to believe that he will lose or can't access his own private key, he is the creator of Bitcoin he is the first to know that losing your private key means losing all your coins.

He is good at keeping his identity so I am pretty sure he is also good at keeping his private key.

I don't believe if Satoshi lost his private keys, but that could be possible as Satoshi is human who can forget which he keeps his private keys. I think he will find a way to get his private keys as he is the founder of bitcoin and he is a smart person. We could only guess what the possibility meanwhile we don't know the truth. But I don't think that Satoshi will reveal himself to the public again because I am sure that he prefers to stay in his room right now.

As a creator of Bitcoin, I doubt that he will lose it, he makes Bitcoin unrecoverable without the private keys, so why would he lose it, I have a strong belief that he also create something that can protect private keys or easily recoverable and he is using it for himself.

He is good at securing things, just check how good he is at securing himself from being exposed.

As the OP said, I do not also believe the self proclaimed guy but one thing that most of us(i and my friends) do discuss is the the real SATOSHI losing his private keys. I wasn't surprised when this guy ended up saying that thing in my mind everyday since I realized the inventor of this great tool is anonymous.

On your idea that him posting on the forum to prove his identity, I still think majority of the members wouldn't bave believed him if he did that because his email wasn't ever hacked not to talk of bitcointalk forum account.

My opinion is that Satoshi might have never cared to store the private keys. He was mining coins in 2009 and 2010, and back then the prices were around $0.001 per coin. He was storing these coins in a large number of wallets and each of them had a different private key. There is a very high chance that he might have taken the mining just as a recreational activity and might not have wrote down or stored the keys. His aim back then was to encourage other people to use Bitcoin, and I guess he mined those coins so as to get the mining hashrate high enough to give an impression of a fledgling system. Even in case he stored all those private keys, there is a chance that he was careless about the storage and lost them in some freak accident.

It is possible that Satoshi lost his keys, but it's not very likely, because a good cryptographer knows the importance of keys and how to store them. Bitcoin keys from early blocks, especially genesis block, is a strong evidence, but it's not perfect evidence, since the keys can be stolen, and not the only evidence, because there are Satoshi's public accounts.

So, even in case Satoshi lost his Bitcoin keys, he'd still be able to use some of his old accounts or PGP keys to prove his identity. And this is why I don't believe any claims that don't have any legit evidence whatsoever, literally anyone can say "I'm Satoshi and I lost my keys".

This scenario will be possible however, we are not talking some random guys who own some bitcoins. it is Satoshi we are talking about the one who made Bitcoins for us. I'm sure he has some sort of way to recover what he lost. I mean the Private key he lost he has some option to recover it.

There is no way I believe that he cannot take it back when he lost it because that's so impossible I'm sure he knows something that we ordinary holders doesn't know.

It's because some of the coins that have been created by the other devs are not quite good. I mean, Bitcoin has the original technology which is blockchain and it's being copied by several developers. So if there's an issue regarding about the decentralization, who will be your first target? definitely the founder. Altcoins aren't good enough and sometimes you can call them shitcoins.

Those people aren't scared because they imitated the blockchain and it's not against the law since it's technology, you can be innovative on some existing technology. While satoshi, who made a huge difference between a digital currency and fiat will be targeted by the government if there's happening in the economic stability of their country.

First of I don't think that the creator would really lose his/her key for sure the real Satoshi would be smart enough to make a copy of it and make sure that it is safe.
And to be honest there is nothing that could prove that they are the real Satoshi unless they could open the wallet of the owner.
I don't think people would believe it if Satoshi's account in this forum would post something unless theymos backed it up.

I think some would believe but they shouldn't. After such long time his account  could be hacked/password guessed etc.
There is too many situations that could lead to false informations beign spread. He wouldn't ever put information like this if he care about his project.

I think this proof of identity as Satoshi is just trivial. For many years many people who are interested in cryptocurrencies and obviously bitcoin, are interested in finding out real facts about the real Satoshi. The information on Satoshi Nakamoto which is available on many online portals is not coherent, so the mystery would just continue for long.

Did you guys read the first page replies?

Theymos locked his account so that if any hacker would like to take his account will need to verify it first to him. There is no chance that someone could bruteforce his account with guessing passwords.

I don't believe that Satoshi did forgot his private key when he is that knowledgeable to hide his path. It is enough to me that he really knows what is he doing.

This is just personal assumption, there is no way to prove that he lost his priv key, besides Satoshi don't want to be known, he wants to remain anonymous so why will he bother signing with private ket? The guy wants to remain hidden so i guess it's about time people respect that and stop creating unnecessary attention.

I don't think so, Satoshi is the mastermind behind the blockchain technololgy and it's too smart that he would back up his private keys. I think the reason why he has not yet moved any of his cryptocurrencies is because that is one way of keeping the bitcoin community strong and letting us know that he still believes in his technology and also to prevent others from thinking that he is going to dump his bitcoins on the entire market.

Well that will be too bad if he actually lost his private key, i mean all the btc locked in those wallet will forever remain lost because a genius like nakomoto couldn't keep his keys safe ::)
i hope not, because that will really be messed up not to mention a huge waste of btc to the trash, what good are btc that can't be access in a wallet ::)

Unfortunately, news outlets as hungry for clicks and views as they are, they will continue to report about people who claim to be satoshi but aren't in reality. News outlets know that too, they just use it as an opportunity to create content.

And then we have crypto related social media influencers who create podcast style videos on YouTube where they read news articles. This makes fake satoshis gain even more exposure, which is exactly what they are after.

So far it has always paid off to pretend to be satoshi and I can't see it change due to what I wrote above. At the end of the day, we talking about it here is a form of exposure too, and this has helped Craig Wright gain a lot more followers.

Accounts registered to this forum are being hacked every now and then. I have heard of 2-3 such incidents, with the first one occurring in 2011. So I won't trust if someone logs in with the Satoshi account and makes a post here. If Theymos personally confirms that the post was made by Satoshi, then it is OK. If not, I will just ignore the post.

 If Satoshi Actually Lost His Private Keys , then those 980k btc are lost forever or until someone breaks bitcoin encryption.

but i think satoshi is dead already, coz when btc price was rocket high, he could have moved those btc of his and live happy retirement life.,

but  cant tell what his vision is.

I doubt he will lose his private key.

Since you are asking a hypothetical question, then let me assume if he looses his private key I will still not believe him if by anyways he is able to login to his BTT account. There only one way and that is through the private key.

I doubt he will lose it after all he is the creator of Bitcoin.. 

I don't know about Satoshi keys,
but I am getting sick and tired of clown Craig Wrong
as he is again active claiming he wrote WP
https://www.coindesk.com/craig-wright-again-claims-authorship-of-bitcoin-white-paper

I don't know if he is a mental patient, lunatic or super greedy are all together.

Please prove me Wrong and reveal your keys...

If it was easy to break crypto encryption, I am sure that by now, the government  US would have hired the best hand to do so, but unfortunately, it seems like it is some that I a little bit going to be difficult and if there is any chance of it being successful, it would really takes years of research.

If Satoshi has really lost his key, then it is good for the market because the worth of that coin right now is about $10 billion, and you can imagine if such amount is being dumped at once, that would crash the whole system of bitcoin down completely, so better it is missing the way its missing now. There is this guy that is also claiming that it is possible to have it burnt and I am still kind of wondering how this self-acclaimed guru intend achieving that.

he didn't mind disappearing for years, i don't think he cares his millions of BTC for if he does he would have sold them. i think he deliberately burned those coins himself. what matters is that those coin will not circulate in the market and be dumped.

He didnt lost it, he died and just didnt passed them further.
Satoshi was Hal Finney, true genius of our times.

Posting from the Satoshi account will not proof that satoshi is alive nor signing from any old address can prove anything. Many people try to claim themselves satoshi and all of them have faded away with time.
A safest way is to believe that satoshi is dead and he will never be available in the real and online world. This is the best assumption for all those who may claim themselves Satoshi.

Just because Satoshi missed the opportunity of selling his bitcoins during the peak doesn't mean he's dead. There's other possiblities too, it could be his decision to not move those coins and intentionally lost his wallet or wherever the keys are stored.

Even if Satoshi sells all of his bitcoin the crash would only last for some time because the market always recover over time.

It is simple, in the case that Satoshi loses his private keys, the value of Bitcoin increases, which is why many lost bitcoins make the number of Bitcoins worldwide much more finite, and if there are fewer bitcoins more value will it have because the Demand will grow and supply will decrease.

Jika Anda berbicara tentang Satoshi, beritanya masih membingungkan, bukan? Saya tidak tahu seperti apa Satoshi sekarang dan di forum ini atau tidak. kemungkinan besar akan tetap di tempatnya, jika Satoshi menjaga kerahasiaannya dari siapa pun / semua orang, tetapi jika dia telah membuat petunjuk kepada siapa saja yang dapat menemukan kunci pribadinya, dompet Satoshi akan terbuka seperti puzzle atau teka-teki dengan hadiah dari sekitar 1 juta BTC.

Personally I do not believe that the name Satoshi Nakamoto is the real name of the person that founded bitcoin, knowing the threat crypto poses to the traditional money system and government, he would not want his real identity traced, besides there could be possibilities that he is not holding much as a lot of persons had assumed. Bitcoin is just 21,000 in total supply and he must have been selling some all these while.

I think that this article sum up whole case.
It's funny, but his story were actually well written, but not well targeted. It was created for all those people who see in Bitcoinan opportunity for quick money (despite the criticism of such approach in the first part - but such kind of people won't ever admit they are greedy and lazy). All climax of this reveal, with those fancy numbers and religious references don't match tu actual crypto enthusiast, who only want one, simple thing: genesis key. And any crazy explanation about Satoshi sending his laptop to the support won't work in that case.
And even if he, somehow, actually lost all his assets, he still would make his reveal in different way than through some shady PR firm

There is no one that would believe in the future of this project more than satoshi, and it was because he saw the future that made him keep almost a million bitcoin to himself, and for such smart persona, do we really think he would joke with the key.

I would not be surprised if satoshi has even tattled the key on his body, especially the area that is mostly covered in the body, no one knows, but I am sure he knows very well where the private key is stored. Now we even have some hackers that are guessing private keys, I have seen some people claiming to have developed software that can easily crack private key and if they can do that, why would satoshi not be able to gain access to his own account even without the key.

I'd genuinely love to know these people that "claimed to developed software that can easily crack private key", as it would mean ECDSA is broken. Guessing keys is more likely, but with 2^256 possible private keys in the space, I'd wager your safe (for now).

I don't know what will happen, for sure this will be big news.  And a moment later will surely have an impact on the decline in the price of Bitcoin, before finally all the problems can be resolved.

The supply will become more limited and we can have the best price, but I doubt that he actually lost it because he knows the important of keeping the private keys and he knows that if something happen, he can no longer recover that so for sure his bitcoin is still safe.

This is indeed an interesting thread. Why do we have to problem the lost private keys and the come back of the Bitcoin creator Satoshi? For i believe he will remain be anonymous and that he already achieved what he wanted to do with bitcoin. And since theymos already cleared that his account was already locked. Then, there is a small chance that he may post it again using that account and with our doubts setting aside if p2p signature for strong proof is necessary.

The latest Satoshi that has come forth, uses this alibi to claim that he is Satoshi Nakamoto but many people will not believe this kind of alibi, this is quite unbelievable, for me it's unacceptable, he is the creator and a techie guy, he should know how to protect his private key what an irony.

Who cares? Why is someone pretending to be Satoshi a scammer? What would the be scamming you for and gaining for the scam? Even if Satoshi came here and said he lost all his bitcoin. Why would that happen?
What makes you think they would lose their bitcoin and not have it spread across their account? IF they developed bitcoin and never kept any then that is incredibly foolish.

There is no claim that will ever be accepted as long as that coin does not reduce, and if satoshi has lost the key, then we might has well just forget that there is anyone called satoshi and just agree that bitcoin was developed by an invisible spirit because those ones claiming to be satoshi cannot even have access to the key, and the other fool that claim to have some old laptop and how he misplaced the access to the coin really does not have any convincing thing from everything that he wrote there.

I want to believe that the real satoshi is even out there, and just waiting for the right time to actually make himself visible to the world but I ever doubt if it would be now, kind of too risky for him because government would be after him for now, especially America and china.

This makes sense, but I just wonder what if the hacker is capable enough to show proof? we all know that no one knows the who the real satoshi is.

It is up to theymos and the people who make a contribution in Bitcoin to judge and decide how would they want to ask for more information if he is really the real Satoshi Nakamoto. I wonder if a hacker could answer all of the coming questions that will be thrown at him by the community especially on the people here who witnessed the real work of Satoshi.

Haha exactly mate and Yeah theymos is the left hand of satoshi as i know if not wrong because the real owner of this forum is satoshi theymos appointed as administrators. Your correct only theymos. For now no need to argue how is real satishi because for sure he stand their decision to hide their identity. If the private of satoshi get lose possible lost his investment but for the expert and genius like him he have a lot of back up to keep safe their keys.