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While our altcoins keep depreciating in value daily as we keep vigil for altseason, bitcoin dominance has crossed 70% and keeps growing in strength. Will there really be an altseason.

Kindly read -
https://medium.com/bull-bitcoin/alt-season-scamming-noobs-since-2013-71bd19410d98

If truly altcoin season HYPE was been created to keep scamming noobs since 2013 i wonder what happened in 2017 after bitcoin hits 19,000$,this article doesn't make sense to me and its only been created to create fear in the heart of altcoin investors and lovers,as for me i don't care and i will keep investing in altcoins with real working products

One thing that I have discovered to be a given in this cryptocurrency space is the fact that everyone wants to be a "Cryptocurrency Guru" and people spend their time publishing predictions or findings that has not basis in reality at all, we have seen the altszn previously and while nobody knows the future, we can boldly say from what we have seen in the past that a future altszn is a possibility as well.

Yes i feel the same way like all my stuck investments in alts and icos make me feel like i was fooled by them and now i have lost my btc which has the real value at the moment so basically im more than 10x in loss in most of alts against btc so if i invested 1 btc im now sitting below .1 btc this just summarizes what actually has happened and most people have lost their btc but then again there is another side of the story and if we witness alt run like early 2018 then everyone is going to forget this theory, so lets just hope for a big new season soon.

Never read the article, but here are my thoughts here: (1) altcoins keep depreciating before investors are into Bitcoin market right now (2) the hype around altcoin has died down, no projects are successful as 2017. (3) investors have matured and are very intelligent and would choose a project carefully before putting their money. (4) there are still lots of scam projects and investors doesn't want to gamble anymore. If there could be alt season, it should happen in 2020-2021 right after bitcoin's halvening. I say after because every trader pair depends on Bitcoin so if the price rally and we have a massive bull run, then it can have a domino effect on the altcoin market.

The altcoin season is just a speculation and no one can really tell when or if it will happen. Altcoin keeps depreciating in value because there are many scam altcoins more than the real ones which makes people loose interest in them.

This article was created only to cause fear. I believe that the altcoin season will come, even if not in 2019, then in the spring of 2020 it will be here.

To surpass the price of Bitcoin I think it is very difficult and Bitcoin will remain the ruler. I don't believe in the Altcoin Season because after all the price of altcoin will always follow the price of the Bitcoin

I'm not giving up yet on the altcoins I'm holding right now, I'm comfortable with my altcoins, they are on the top 20 and they are continuously developing, a project that keeps developing and who knows the gap between them and Bitcoin and other altcoins will likely survive.

do not be easily influenced by someone, but rest assured yourself how your future choices.

If there is still a possibility of a Bitcoin rally then it is almost certain that an alt season will follow.

The Altcoin season will be present because Bitcoin is also capable of dominating. Although the dominance of Bitcoin makes altcoins decrease. The Altcoin season is still a big question mark for everyone. But what happens to Bitcoin I'm sure if the Altcoin season will be present.

Now many people say the season of Altcoin will be present at the end of the year 2019 and probably the beginning of the year 2020. But this is only limited to predictions. I do not think too much of it and what is important now I do is keep trading.

This will only happen in temporary because people attract to move their money into bitcoin. I am sure that later, they will come back to the altcoin and buy a big amount of coin because the price gets a big discount. People focus at bitcoin now, and they don't want to miss the chance to make the profit. The altcoin price now is at the lower price, but the price itself will be back to the higher price, but you need to be patient.

I believe there will be Altseason, If you were there when last time it happened you know it'll take only a month for alts to explode in price. I will not sell now or at loss, I'll wait for price rise no matter how much time it takes..

You did have a good point and yet investors keep investing in IEO projects, investors aims are now short term profit making,which makes the wise investors believe that only exchanges like binance and huobi can deliver good ROI, Apart from the bitcoin surge in value altcoin IEO is the second profitable investment

No one is sure when altcoin season will commence and no one is keeping you here, every altcoin enthusiast is just waiting for that big altcoin break.
The break had happened before and still could but this time it would be restricted to some altcoin so be mindful of the altcoin you get hooked to

As you can see, altcoins depend too much on the dominance of bitcoin. The value of altcoin really only has a very few

there are many people who hope that the alt season will come and a lot of analysis or predictions that appear to be an article about this, but until now has not shown the fact that the alt season will begin. yes, alt still falls like last year and has not shown its movements. rather than waiting for something that is uncertain, it's better to find other ways to get profit.

No, not everyone. Just the ones who think they can make money by making sheep out of other people. In this case, generally also people with an inflated ego.

I personally think it's good. Then I know exactly who to avoid. Guru. Expert. Whatever. The titles are like a big red flag for me to say stay away except for entertainment.

I think that altcoin season will eventually come as BTC rises. It's also an important thing for you to keep up with updates about your altcoin on trusted news (https://www.coincurb.com/?utm_source=lx) sites to know whether you're gonna expect something or not. Similar to what recently happened with ETH where it increased about $10 because of the Ethereum 2.0 news.

Eventually there will be, I don't know how long it will take or how much we will take advantage of it but eventually there will be one. It may take years before it happens like 2017 peak times as well, for example bitcoin went back to half of what it used to be whereas almost all other coins haven't had that yet, which means there needs to be some sort of alt season to actually bring it back.

Ethereum reached 1.5k at its height and right now bitcoin is back to 10k yet ethereum is not 750 dollars, on contrary it goes down even further. That is why I think altcoins are dying right now but they will be revived one day, bitcoin can't be sustained without its altcoins, bitcoin can go up to a point but it will be hard to increase the price of it without getting some help from altcoin profits.

Nobody can predict what would happen next, but the most possible case is that BTC will continue to grow and will arrive to the point, when investors would switch to altcoins that are at the bottom prices, which should push the whole alts market forward.

Yeah, just a bitcoin maximalist trying to scare people there. In some ways he's correct, true shitcoins probably won't recover. But it's too simple to paint every alt as a shitcoin. Some people tend to overlook that most alts are better from a technical level than bitcoin is. And there are some specific fields where alts do things bitcoin simply can't (such as with ETH).

Besides altcoins being responsible for hype in the market, it's also responsible for a lot of BTC's volume as well (can't buy alts quite often without buying BTC first). So no alts won't really help BTC's cause much. Short-term it'd result in a boost to BTC, but longterm it's unlikely to be healthy.

But the big takeaway to me is how BTC people (and I say this as someone who holds BTC) seem to forget that BTC acts like a pump/dump coin too, not much different than alts. BTC is still down like 50% from its highs... yes it's better than 80-90% losses, but that's how big and small marketcaps work. It works the same way with stocks too. It doesn't mean small market cap stocks are all scams, and folks should just buy Apple and Amazon.

alt season will definitely come back, but that's only for good quality altcoin. during the next altcoin season, there will be many altcoins dead and the rest will survive.

maybe many are afraid of the current bitcoin dominance, but that is not a threat. because from the beginning bitcoin has been the center of crypto. bitcoin which makes people interested in investing in crypto. so if bitcoin looks not so powerful, then they will lose their trust.

altcoin season will return, and when it starts it will reduce the dominance of bitcoin. so no need to worry about this. but just in case it's better we invest only in high-quality altcoin, and have real development. this will be good because altcoin like this will later rise in the next altcoin season.

Fact: No one really knows how long a bear market lasts or do they know how long a bull market lasts too.

Fact: Another altcoin season will come. Why? Because innovation is not limited to one group. Anything revolutionary can happen from an unexpected source. 

altcoin season won't come just because of innovation. if only because of this, the altcoin season has already begun from a few months ago. You know how many innovation projects have been released at the moment?, it's very much. but in the end did it trigger the altcoin season? I don't think so, and that even makes the market bear.

yes there will be. and yes they say it to make you keep bag holding your shitcoins.

the thing is when the next "altcoin pumping season" starts, it will be the new altcoins that will be pumped the most not the old ones.
if you want to see how the next bull run is going to be and what i mean by "new" you can check out the altcoin market in 2015 to first see which coins were the "top" that people were bag holding thinking they will go back to their ATH, then see 2016 and 2017 how the "new" coins of that time replaced them by their huge pumps.
it will be repeated soon.

Completely agree with this. The only reason people want to name themselves Guru is not because they want to teach people things,,, it is because they want people to pay them to tell things that people think they do not know.

But do we really need people to tell us that price will go to XXXXX just because of some idea or some explanation some Guru said?

you should question yourself, what make an altcoin worth anything?
beside ethereum is the first ico scams platform and monero to be the first anon coin, what is really useful to it?

That decision is left to the developers because every growth of altcoin depends on each and every one of them and how their attitude towards the project they have been created, you know when you are being giving money as a gift, you cannot manage it as much as you would manage the money that you worked for, and I think that is what is affecting these projects.

Maybe because they go those fund on a platter of gold, because if they had gone through IPO, the kind of money that they do demand for  would not have been met even in 5 year’s time, but ICO gave it to them just within few months, while the bounty hunters whom they have even refunded to pay are the ones that are doing more of the campaign, now the lapse is there, they are not getting new investor because many of them are not promoting the project, so I think altcoin season may still be far from us now.

The truth is many people (including so-called "cryptocurrency experts"), are merely speculating based on the boom of altcoins in late 2017. No one knows for sure if we will have another surge of alts season. But we can be hopeful of it since Bitcoin is yet to cross its ATH. When Bitcoin goes above 20k, then we can start to actually see the possibility of another alts season

Alt season is something is to be expected regardless of what analysts say, the big question is 'when'? People are looking to invest in Bitcoin- both inexperienced investors and noobs alike. Why? The Baakt Bitcoin ETF. Alt season can only come when the interest in BTC subsides a bit. I don't think that'll be soon. Plus the market is consolidating after a big rally.

That is a fact, I could vividly still remember what happened some times ago, the rally if Bitcoin always give way for that of the Altcoins and what we have seen recently is, the rally of bitcoin has not be seen as much even its dorminance look impressive. Probably, we should keep our hope alive till 2020 while we should be expecting a big Altcoins market.
Things will repeat itself like the 2017....

I believe that someday altcoin season will come... But it will not be soon...
I think it will be only in 2020...
And only a small part of current altcoins will have a big pump...

Well if history repeats itself, I should say we're overdue for a boom in the altcoin market.  Bitcoin has been on fire lately whereas even the decent altcoins have been languishing.  On the other hand I have noticed in the past couple of years that sometimes money flows into bitcoin and out of the alt market, and there is sometimes an inverse relationship in prices between the two.  That appears to be what is happening right now.

Hang tight, be patient, and load up on coins that will probably rebound once the money starts to come back into alts.  I don't doubt that this is what's going to happen, though I'd be hard pressed to say when.  Hopefully it will be this year.

With the current liquidity we currently have in the market, and with the bitcoin percentage dominance and its continues hopeful dominance, altcoins may not repeat what they did in 2017, except there is enough liquidity in the market, wherein the bitcoin shines on its own, without putting much pressure on the market.

lol well if history really will repeat itself and after all it does happen all the time. a country always has the crisis and keeps getting up so why not in crypto. i've seen it twice already with btc. but it will take a lot of time and patience to run out. don't rely too much to the speculation that it will happen too soon, it may take more than 5 years from now so just relax and find yourself something to do to kill the time.

The only reason why you might think you are being held in the loop is if you yourself have the belief of let's buy this particular alt coin and in few weeks to come I might have made a fortune then a week turns to weeks, weeks in turn became months and you still hold forth that in the next months which in turn became three months and one year still counting. But if its about making the most out of each day or few days by taking the marginal profit or marginal losses there is no illusion of being a wealthy alt coin in a future undecided. The point is no one is plotting to keep anyone in that loop of illusion without your own conscious or subconscious approval.

Agreed, by the time we should also have the better plans for tomorrow. Whether it is bitcoin or altcoins, we move upon trust. Till date one who have believed in the cyclic turnaround of the market has profited out of bitcoin, but it isn't assured with every cryptocurrencies. Here we need to be careful in choosing the right asset for our benefiting, also patience is a must.

These mean we are already in a loop, so there is no need for those people behind altcoin creations to keep us in the loop. We have seen several pump and dump that keeps on repeating itself.  Just entering the altcoin market put us in that loop.


True that, most people who dive on altcoin believes that the altcoin they are buying will increase in price soon without knowing that price can get worse and they have to wait longer than what they had plan.  Worst is, many altcoin never recovered and get doomed and die.

of course there will be. some crypto observers have given a prediction that the altc season will occur at the end of this year. although it might not be as good as the previous year, it will really help altc investors to get a fresh breeze on their investment.

If you still have optimistic belief that the market will  benefit to your invested time and money, it's quite better to have good assets to hold. You need to learn how to treat things out and be aware of any potential actions that will bring things to bounce back. Expectations about crypto for being volatile should not be forgotten, being able to be more patient in order to make things right with your investment is needed to consider every market movements.

As soon as everybody loses hope and forget about such a thing like "altcoin season", it will really begin, lol :)
Same thing usually happens when we are talking about BTC investing by the way.

And it will be this fall. I expect Altcoins to show a price increase well enough. Coins on average should grow in price by 300-400%.

That'd be nice, but we'll see. But based on history, as soon as btc hits a certain dominance, and all looks lost for alts, they tend to rebound. We may have hit that mark already. ETH going on a run pre-2.0 could be what spurs it on -- that is assuming this current ETH bull run has some legs. But it's too early to say right now -- may take 2-3 months, which is about how long it took for alts to get crushed since the summer.

Part of me wonders if the decline in alts simply had to do with Libra being announced + Binance delisting US folks and whales getting cold feet, worrying that alts would tank because of Binance ... so they sort of pre-tanked before the event. Now that the Binance thing is over, perhaps whales will be a little more adventurous.

Well well today Alts are doing good while Bitcoin didn't really move much
So if there's an Alt season, i hope it will be within this period because based off what happen today, Alts proven that they are currently looking to acquire more market share in the crypto market

Dominance has drop from 71% to 68% (Today)

Growth in relation to bitcoin is still insignificant so it is too early to conclude about the Alt season.

Agreed, too early, but at least it's moving in the right direction. What was it over the summer, around the 55% mark? If dominance slips below 60%, I'd consider it a good sign. I think we may know more after Bakkt goes live -- right now it looks like whatever boost btc was going to get from it was cooked in, but too early to say. And it could be a double-edged sword, as besides investors having an easier way to buy into btc, it's also easier to short it as well.

I started to read it, but this guy seems like an arrogant fool. I got as far as "About me: They call me Grandpa Bitcoin. They also call me “The Swede.”"
FFS.

Good question and I often wonder myself if I'm just another hamster in the world just running on my own little treadmill, running running and chasing this loop that never ends.

I know it's not important anymore who created Bitcoin and why (if there are any real reasons) but sometimes with alts especially I wonder what the whole point is and if we're all just getting on a ride.

I believe the point is getting profit.  Several of those old story about "rags to riches" inspires us to get involved in cryptocurrency.  Riding on a certain altcoinboat that can give you a huge profit is a grat thing.  I myself profited from this one and enables me to buy myself a place to live that I can call my own but if there are ups there is also downs, and after the year 2017, all my altcoin investment goes down more than 90% of its original value, lucky I did not invest all my profit and saved 30% of it.  Another thing here is to know when we have to exit the loop and reenter it again.  It's hard but I believe it is doable.

To enter the growth cycle, the cryptocurrency market needs to drop to a low level of capitalization. I hope that the capitalization of the market does not fall below 150 billion dollars.

There will definitely be another altcoin season. It may not happen until a) you've sold all your alts or b) the alts you are holding have all been delisted. Markets are cruel like that. ;)

The ETHBTC daily chart still looks strong, holding up really well against the dump in BTC. Keeping hope alive....

I expect a ton of folks sold their alts at a terrible loss, and as crypto things tend to go, that means altseason is just around the corner. I'm waiting for what I sold to skyrocket, while my holdings stagnate -- and the crypto gods can laugh in glee.

But the fact that so many junkcoins were delisted probably will be one major reason why I don't think the next altseason will result in a zillion coins all increasing in value, even complete junk. Besides investors being somewhat smarter now, there simply won't be exchanges offering certain coins anymore. And dinky little exchanges usually can't handle the sort of volume we saw in 17.

But if altcoin season does come, I wonder if it'll come top down, or reverse... meaning ETH leads the way, then it trickles down to smaller cap coins. Or mid-smaller cap first? It's been so long I forget how altcoin seasons tend to begin. Or maybe some new alts will spur the charge.

Bitcoin dominance is also starting to get lower. I can smell that this is the time for its own recovery while most alts are struggling to even recover, this probably the time to see them on greens again. This doesn't mean because we see them green now, they'll go green forever. I think the pattern starts when the decrease of bitcoin dominance starts, this is my opinion into this alt season. This is not an advice to everyone and this is all about my opinion again, if ever someone is taking this as advice.

It sometimes we/I think that this year isn't good for altcoins nor to see a bullish season for cryptocurrency. We could only see to have such bullish again if Bitcoin could help it out and move also but it was missing today instead we saw it going down. Not to be really disappointed but it sounds like that, and I believe that there is no bull run this year.
We looking forward to seeing it next year as another BTC halving come. will it hope that it triggers market pumps and lead to bullish?

That's usually how it goes! I've basically forgotten about my altcoin bags at this point. No point selling all the way down here. For the small amount of money it would net to sell them now, I'd rather view them as lottery tickets.


New listings might be a bit sparser than 2017. My overall assumption is that if it's listed on a decent exchange, it will pump.

I think that the market cap has already drop enough and not until the market cap zeroes before we welcome the new altcoin season, I don’t think it is about market capitalization dropping zero or not, I think it is about the projects called altcoins having a catalyst that will set the market on fire again and spark the heart of people to start rushing to buy altcoins.

Right now, I do not see the enthusiasm in people buying altcoins again as they are so cold to it because of the bad status of altcoins, which is the reason for the dominance of bitcoin this period as many people do not want to get involved in altcoin investment again, I just hope that we will still see altcoin season as the only season that is on now is the bitcoin season which I know that will be in the market till next year when it decided to consolidate for altcoins.

Unfortunately, but the season for altcoins will not come until the bull run on Bitcoin begins. History tells us that large and rapid price increases are in periods of Bitcoin halving, so it will be in the middle of next year.
In my opinion, this is the worst time to sell and the best time to buy altcoins.  ;)

The adjustment was imminent. Alts were quite hyped up back in 2017 when the bull market happened where the bitcoin dominance index was essentially artificially low for a long while because of the fact that people were looking for cheap and quick profits.

This is a different era altogether now. Institutional investors seek to invest in BTC more than anything, which is most likely why there is so much more demand for BTC in comparison to alts.

But some alts, like ETH, LTC etc. I think are undervalued in accordance to their long term averages, and could see bull runs sooner or later.

I see nothing but a small increase in the current situation. Maybe the market will go in the direction we want and we will end these conversations but when that happens it will probably be without cause so I am afraid of giving anybody any advice. Anyway I hope it happens as you say and those who evaluate this situation as a opportunity will not regret it.

We should think simple. The market always has a repetitive cycle and it is our job to choose a good time to buy or sell. When bitcoin increases the alts decrease, that's a kind of case. The second case is that the alts rebound and bitcoin stabilizes or decreases, which is usually case 2.
These are two cases of rotation to make the market become vibrant and volatile. Therefore, I always believe that the alts will come but we need to be alert to choose a good time to buy or sell.

It's a very dark and pessimistic article, but many of his points are correct.

Blind hodling a project (like his example namecoin), without monitoring its future potential will make you rekt. You must not fall in love with some alt and hodl it for ever and ever. You must always be a researcher.

I think this could be like you said because the price condition of bitcoin which is not too good anymore makes traders disappointed because before Bitcoin is said there will be bakt that makes prices go up but instead it is only FUD so many traders are more turning to altcoin to try to take advantage of the moment on altcoin.

Partly the investor is unhappy with the fall of Bitcoin. And just against this background, perhaps the investor will now come to Altcoins. This is due to the fact that coins are at the lowest price ranges.

One of the advantages of Bitcoin dominance is we have fewer and fewer scam projects, they know that they are not going to get funded because everybody are on Bitcoin, I'm 100% positive that there will be altcoin season but only altcoins that have potential in the market, not a pump and dump altcoins.

Since 2013? You could count a few altcoins seasons that have boomed since then, altcoins weren't even so popular until the recent hype in 2017. Sadly, with all the hype also came so many opportunistic scammers that took advantage of new people in crypto. My opinion is THERE ARE altcoin seasons, nobody can tell if the next one will be as huge as the previous ones, but time will come when at least some of these altcoin projects will finally be realized.

What do you mean by “Altcoin Season” I don’t think there’s such a thing because what I believe is all currency in crypto are independent so each will grow or fall by demand and not for what ever reason

The developer and marketing’s team will be the responsible about their currency performances so if this one will grow or that one will dump its them to be blame or praise
But what we have to do?choose the right one before investing and stop trusting shitcoins that will bring you instant profit

I think since 2013, ICO not like now which a lot of tokens can created and maybe about scamming people, we can't simply make conclusion about it. In trading, profit or lose is something that can't be considered as scam because it is other people's decision. What i see in past is what scam people is something like cloud mining, HYIP and doubler site that easily took a lot of money from people.

Perhaps, the investor is not happy to see the fall of bitcoin. But if they still hold bitcoin for a long time, I am sure they will be happy because they can see what they invest in bitcoin can give them a big profit. That will happen too with the altcoin, and more investors will come to the altcoin besides bitcoin because they can see a chance to make a profit again. And once that thing can happen, we will see another altcoin season arrives, and that means, we all can make another profit in bitcoin. That will trigger the market to recover fully. But that is only speculation since we don't know what will happen and we can hope that it will happen soon.

Actually I'm holding an altcoin and I regret it since all of them got dump when bitcoins price drop so badly, And I cannot even take to hold them up for a while since the stigma of losing still in my mind that's why I choose to trade my new alts when profit shows already in my stack. And I would suggest to hold those alts who are in top list since new ones are prone to dumps.

Never say never,,, and never say always;)

Just because it has always happened before does not mean it will happen again, especially when alt seasons have not had a long history yet. For sure, every time it happens means higher likelihood for it to happen again. If alt season happens a few more times in the next 10 years then for sure people can always look forward to the next cycle.

But it has not happened yet!

I guess it will happen again. Probably as soon as everyone get back into crypto, just like it was in 2017.
Weak hands get shooked off and strong hands will dominate. Stack up your altcoin portfolio asap!

This proves that altcoins rely too much on BTC because BTC accounts for more than half of the market. The failure of Bakkt's launch made us more aware of that. Altcoins will return to the market when BTC begins to recover and rise again, at which point the altcoin season will begin.

Yeah, probably worth the wait but some people don't like to wait and it seems that the waiting game is just too much to handle. That's why most of these altcoins hoarders are losing their faith in cryptocurrency, leading to selling it for a small price.

I actually don't know about rules, because in past we can trade freely in exchanges. Specifically for bitcoin and altcoins, and i don't see any restriction for some countries and it is changed after trend change too. When a lot of tokens come maybe government only want their citizen not get scammed with that kind of investment and they make a lot of rules and now some exchanges force their users to do KYC.

Maybe i am wrong. Because i only know that in past every citizen can trade freely in altcoin exchanges. And now for come countries it is restricted like for example for US citizen usually can't trade in some exchanges. For ICO, in whitepaper said that make sure not US citizen.

I truly believe the Altcoin season finished in early 2018 and with more and more projects competing for a space on CMC but the actual market cap not growing beyond 250 billion over the last two years, for me just means that most altcoins are in for a round of pump and dump by signal telegram groups and that's it. Unless there is a real big cash injection in the whole COINMARKETCAP and some of the projects excel in innovation and tech, I do not see another altcoin boom coming in the near future.

Until now, perhaps everyone's definition of the altcoin season is probably the value of the altcoin pumped and dumped as you said, they need such green signals to achieve the profit goals they have establish, and in recent months, altcoins are recovering at a staggering percentage every day, the altcoin season has no end, it's still happening every day. But this is also a conspiracy to keep us in this market because without an altcoin season like now, people soon abandoned the market when bitcoin only made the value of altcoins go down every day, which meant killing everyone's hopes

In my opinion there is obviously a lot of upside potential for many project/cryptocurrencies that are actively being developed. Most of the altcoins in the market won't see the sun again I'll admit that. And they don't deserve to.. On the other side there are projects like Ethereum and Stratis(i mentioned them because I actually now that the development is going on) which if they keep up the work and expand their network they will rise together with Bitcoin. That is not guaranteed of course, but it is a high probability for that to happen from my perspective.

It's difficult to know what any of this is really worth as actual current use-cases are thin on the ground. It's all expectation of future use, which is why the markets are so speculative. In the past I think alt booms have correlated with high market confidence... which is lacking at the moment. That being the case I would expect any new upwards movement to be led by BTC, thus increasing BTC dominance. Probably (possibly) an 'alt season' will then happen once prices are higher across the board.

There are hundred and thousands of coins that fall under the umbrella of alt coins, but there are only few coins that should be considered alt coins like ethereum, monero, ripple etc remaining are just sh*t coins. BTC is competing againest these few solid alt coin, not every coin is market is worthy enough to be considered alt coin.

First of all you shouldn't consider Ripple as altcoin ;) I understand that you used this example because it is listed on Coinmarketcap.  ;) :)
But I agree that most altcoins that have fallen almost to zero will never rise again. However, when the situation stabilizes, certainly many of those that have been "forgotten" such as Electroneum have a chance for huge increases.

There could be but for sure, no one knows when will such thing happen in this industry wherein the market still, is struggling with the volatility of the prices of crypto. Recovery is still blurry so assuming for an Altcoin season would also seem to be untrue. Also if altcoin season stands for overtaking Bitcoin's place, it would seem to be absurd knowing how huge Bitcoin is to be taken down by alts.

I do not think that we would see another altcoin season in the nearest future, because there are no announcements that would make it happen. BTC is the only coin that is doing business at the moment.

Impossible to say. Everyone's waiting for the altseason but there's no guarantee if it will happen at all. My opinion: alts will rise after BTC bullrun and even then it's a big question how long.

Personally I agree with this definition, there are very few alternative coins to bitcoin and you can easily see this is the case when you go to any website that accepts bitcoin and you will see that they do not really accept too many altcoins with a few exceptions like ethereum, litecoin, monero or dogecoin.

But the rest of the coins of the market of which we have thousands of them are not really known by anyone except their developers and those that used their money to invest in them.

Alt season is sure to happen but no one knows when it's time.  like most people predict a BTC price of $ 50,000 but no one knows when that will happen. but my personal view of the Alt season will occur if the BTC is bullish and reaches a new ATH.  because I also looked at the 1 week timeframe for Alt that was already at the bottom and was just waiting for a big pump.

Yes, once more money comes into the crypto market cap as a whole, the price of altcoins will go up as well. Or, as you like to refer to it "Altcoin season" will happen. It's just simple math. If there's more money in the market cap, there's more people investing. Therefore, the prices on everything will go up. You just have to wait for more money to come into the market. Keep an eye on the market cap as a whole to get an idea of what is going on.

However it is also important to discern that even if we know the altcoin season will at some point happen in the future at the same time I think we are going to see a different kind of altcoin season.

In my opinion the next time this happens we are not going to see all the altcoin market going up, what we are going to see is that the growth will be concentrated in the top coins with a few promising altcoins gaining a huge value as well, but the rest of the altcoins will even lose value as the altcoin season gains strength.

first thing is who told you about Altcoin Season?when we all knew that before altcoin grows up its bitcoin must be the first/so if you wanna call a season it must be a Bullrun mate and that is what will happen.
about the time?nothing specific but if you are asking in general?yeah this will happen maybe soon or in near future.

The BTC  dominance is an important factor, without considering it calling the uptrend as an alt season is not correct. Dropping the BTC dominance rate will solve the correlation problem and the 30% correlation can change everything completely for both altcoin investors and projects. Regarding the timing of the market, all guesses by individual crypto traders are the speculation, nothing else.

I am begining to think recently that the altcoins can be a manipulated market especially when the good projects prices are considered and not getting better. Not all the coins are scams and they have made more technology developments in recent months than some top coins in the market, that could bring in investors. The intentional dump in these projects price  could give concerns. Except for exchange altcoins that may not have this disadvantage, other coins are really struggling.

When BTC rise up a bit, most of the altcoins also go up. Though the price in BTC doesn't really go up, its obvious that altcoins price go up because BTC price in USD go up. You may not see it as altcoin season but there are just coins that are being bought by traders as well maybe for its usecase like the BNB to which its price in BTC could go higher.

If we see BNB today is worth 0.002 BTC then we might be seeing the price of it soon 0.005BTC when bullrun comes while some other altcoins price stays the same like 0.000001BTC since last year but price in USD gradually go up still.

Probably true we have the evidence, no altcoins season while Bitcoin is till down, and lest we forget altcoins season happen when Bitcoin was at it's high, so it is backed by history, but we don't need to worry another Bitcoin high is looming and we should prepare by picking the best coin to invest, your choice now will have an impact tomorrow.

we are not sure about this either. But alts season is coming and we need to wait a bit longer. because 2020 will certainly be the year of bitcoin when the halving event is getting more and more attention. Besides, now you can see Bitcoin's Dominance is over 65% and there are a lot of people holding bitcoin and waiting for it to grow. That shows that there are still people interested in bitcoin and they can sell alts to buy more bitcoins. so we need to be more patient and don't expect it to come too soon.

Even though the negative news about bitcoin appears, it does not shake people to hold their bitcoins,
and the impact is only on price manipulation, yes it is natural, because in 2020 there will be halving bitcoin, maybe this is the cause.

well as you can see bitcoin dominance always goes to 70-90% then back to 30%,
you just need patience to wait even 3-4 years instead of saying things like this
its FUD

In 2015, the crypto markets were so down that even die hard crypto fans and Bitcoin maximalists sold their coins at the very bottom when BTC went sub $200. It was really funny that these guys were so vehemently toxic in their crypto religiosity. Same thing is happening now but back then, the danger was it was all a fad. Now, you will be stupid to bet against innovation.

I remember being at work with a buddy of mine and saying "Bitcoin is below $220, we really need to try to get in and get as much as we can". Just a couple weeks later, it was already back up above $1,000. Lesson here was, buy as much as you can while it's at it's lowest you have seen it in a while. Things will sure change. We both wish we could have gotten in with as much as we could afford at the time.

Well in all honesty, I was already planning to buy my largest purchase of Bitcoin back in January of that year when BTC crashed months before from Draper's $600 to $300 and then mid $200. But I wasn't foolhardy, I only bought with funds I can afford to lose. The fear of crypto being just a fad after all is very real.

Fast forward today, I have a small tinge of regret of not going all in and could have retire today. But that's just gambling, I could have been wrong and BTC dead today means I lost everything too..

Depending on market conditions and investors mood. I hardly can imagine that an altcoin season would start in the nearest future, because there are no major announcements about it, but sooner or later it will come for sure.

An alt season or alt run looks unlikely in the near future. At the moment it is all about holding support levels against the relentless downwards prcie pressure. everything depends on bitcoin at the moment. Where BTC leads, alts will follow. As far as I can see the current conditions are not at all conducive to a sudden surge in alt prices.

Just because altcoins have not grown in value in the same way that bitcoin we cannot say that the market is be manipulated, believe me those that are holding huge amounts of coins are not going to want to manipulate the price to go down when the market of altcoins has been going down for two years.

They want the same as you, they want the market to grow up and for people to invest in those coins but no one seems to be interested and if there is no demand then the price cannot go up.

The altcoin market looks manipulated because there is a lack of trading volume or liquidity. A few thousand dollars can easily bring a coin's price to 400% gain. Actually you can never know if the market is manipulated in dried out trading.

Many people expect the arrival of altcoins season, but now almost some people have doubts about the arrival of alt season. I consider it
natural that many people hesitate, seeing several times altcoins fail to rise. In the end the alt season will be difficult to happened, if the
altcoin holder gives up to keep the altcoins they already have. I suggest that the altcoins holder still holds coins, don't sell altcoins you
already have. Because sooner or later alt season will come, we only need a little be patient about this. I'm sure 2020 will be the proof that
alt season exists, because there are many big events related to the crypto world. This will make the price of altcoins go up slowly though.

Altcoins market has always been easy to manipulate due to low volumes. How much prices are manipulated depends only on how big the whale does it. That when the alt season comes, now depends on how quickly investors will regain confidence in the cryptocurrency market. That the alt season will come is certain.

Nobody knows and it's impossible to predict. In case of next crypto boom or alt season be sure you have them accumulated till then haha. I just bought a new batch of fav alts: XRP, XLM, NWC

Also, I think it's better to buy earlier than to be late for the departing train. Unfortunately, but it not depends from small investors like us, when this train starts, so it's better to make sure that we already have tickets...;)
However, I am not convinced about XRP, I think that banks will strongly manipulate the price and either the price will rise very much or it will fall very much. For me it's the most risky coin.

You said it rightly and I also hope only for the most promising coins that showed good results even in 2018.  These are Stellar and Ripples, and you also need to buy BNB.  And the undisputed leader for investment should still be Ethereum.

When the bull run begins, it won't matter which altcoins you have. I am sure that the prices of coins from the top 50 - 100 will all start to go up equally with the price of Bitcoin. The only thing that nobody knows is how high they can go. :)

lol there is no altcoin season but it is the Bullrun that who's been waiting and that is about Bitcoin getting higher value so altcoin can do follow the movements but the altcoin itself?there is no such thing .

just like what the links says,Bitcoin Bull willl be the start of altcoin season as well

One thing is for sure though. An altcoin season will come. Why? Because us humans likes to innovate and innovation always wins, the obsolete dies. The question is when - maybe next month, maybe after May Bitcoin halving, maybe in five years or a decade. But surely it will come again.

I also believe that it will come but the question is when?. This is the question that always bare in my mind on until when we can wait the season of altcoins can pump so much. As time passed by we might even think on how long we could wait and it's the most challenging on our part  since most of us here are hoping that it may come as soon as possible gaining a good return in the future.

Why do you think the BTC will move alone? The correlation between Bitcoin and altcoins shouldn't be ignored and it has proven there is a strong correlation among the top altcoins. The main reason everyone thinks the Bitcoin Bullrun will bring the alt season is the past market tendency. The market will repeat it's trading patterns one more time. Everyone is expecting a different and thinks it will not repeat this time but it repeats seasons, surprisingly.

Altcoin season will come once this long bear market is over. The baby bull of first few months of this year was in some selected top coins only so a full blown altseason needs the real bull to be back.

After the end months of the bear market, we will make the first steps towards bull-bear fight zones. The fight will be on the order books and the flash effect will happen more than average market days. The sharks will try to take their table before the opening ceremony at April, right before the halving. Bulls will come back to take control but the concern is how long they will be able to hold the market in an uptrend.

Dont know why do differentiate altcoin value to altcoin trend? Its just the same dude. Come to think that not most of the time where alts do correlate its trend or price with BTC.
It can either go down or go along with it.

People do call it season yet there are really particular days which price tends to rose up without any possible reason we can see.Most of the times ,price movements do vary on sentiments been floating
around neither positive or negative ones.

The crypto market is not as big as it looks like. In my view, crypto market is all about Bitcoin along with few altcoins and if you see from this perspective BTC dominance is justified. The problem is we consider every coin launched till date as part of the crypto market. I think to be part of the crypto market a coin must pass some standards like its market cap, real-world use case, etc.

One can say that those coins or tokens that have no volume at all and are dead, are not part of the market. However, every coin or token that is traded is part of the cryptocurrency market. It is thanks to the diversity that this market is so interesting. And when it comes to usability, actually every token has some, because that's why they were created for.

As we already see no altcoin season this year, i think next we year we have a chance to have an altcoina bull run, all really depends on a lot of factors and can't guarantee really what will happen.

Everyone believes that the cryptocurrency market will get up from its knees next year. However, this does not have to happen. Even if the bull run comes next year, certainly not all altcoins will rebuild their price. In my opinion, most tokens and altcoins will remain at the bottom, and only some of them will recover their prices.

You should never invest in a coin that is so easily manipulated, you need to look at all the aspects of a coin before you decide to invest in it, it is not rare to find coins that supposedly have millions of dollars worth of volume but when you look at the liquidity of the market you see that you only need a few hundred dollars to crash the coin.

In that case it is obvious that the coin is being manipulated but once you recognize this fact then you need to stay away from it, there is no point in complaining about it because nothing will change even if you do.

shitcoins are not included to those who will pump next year lol,some of them will die sooner as they are not really needed in this market instead they are adding some trust issues from investors .
what i believe is that the market of altcoins will get up high again late next year or early 2021 because halving effect is not instant and sometimes it took months or year before finally felt the Bullrun.

If you can crash the market with just a few hundred dollar investment then you shouldn't be investing in that coin anyways. It's already pretty much dead if that's the case. Try to stick to the more we'll know coins, say the top 20 on coinmarketcap. Even a jump from top 20 to top 10 requires a lot of increase in the market cap and would raise the price 10x or more

There are some coins have a potential to increase in the future but in some point it needs much more time to wait when it will be happen. Nowadays, it's really hard to know a coin have a potential to increase in which it needs more time to study especially their platforms and advocacy. I still believe that the market will increase tremendously in the future.

Forget about conspiracy theories about the whales manipulating the price of altcoins to keep us interested, that is not what it's happening, altcoins are not going up in value for a very simple reason investors have learned a long time ago that you are taking an immense risk if you invest in any altcoin, a risk that they are not willing to take any more after they have suffered tremendous losses at the hands of altcoins, it is understandable that no one likes this but that is the reality of the market.

In any case, the season of altcoins will come soon, the cryptocurrency market is working on price fluctuations and this is quite normal. What is the difference how many altcoins can not rise in price terms? Only useless coins and tokens will not be able to grow. Now there are more than three thousand different altcoins, some of which will appear, others will disappear. This is quite normal for the market, the only way cryptocurrency can improve.
Now there are many stable coins of various states and business structures. With them, a decentralized cryptocurrency will have to compete fiercely as a means of payment. It really will be a good test for a decentralized cryptocurrency.

This I have to agree. You know when they said crypto achieved true mainstream adoption during the bull run,,, that is impossible. Today I look around and I see my people live in a big tech world,,, and everybody has heard about bitcoin, but almost nobody I know has it. Those who have it? They also do not use it like I do.

That is a very small market. Talk about altcoins and it is even worse. Nobody except the founders and investors know it, and even they do not use it!

I disagree, the theory of whales manipulating and creating opportunities on altcoins makes us more interested in what is happening because you look at the statistics about the price increases on crypto exchanges in the previous weeks, those are very special fluctuations, so many altcoins suddenly increase in price, helping investors to earn big profits. But after everyone is happy enough, we can see how the market is following the trend, we obviously fell into a loop but this conspiracy is also our chance, we need to be here

There is no altcoin season anymore. Literally no Alts is being used for it's use case. None. they are all fully speculative. there are the smart contract platforms, like ethereum. I think they are worth an investment, the use cases are enough, but in the long run, much of their functionality could be incorporated in to bitcoin or on top of bitcoin. however, You probably shouldn't be fully into a single coin. Bitcoin is great, but you probably want to diversify into some other coins as well to be safe. We don't know the future. I'm about %85 in BTC, %10 ETH and the rest in other top altcoins.

if you mean big altseason, then it's right.
But if you mean small altseason, it's wrong. There was altseason in january to july this year. Look at most crypto increased at that time

It is reasonable if just small altseason, bcz of many people are still skeptical with this crypto market.

This has been true for altcoins for a very long time, so far a few altcoins have incorporated characteristics that bitcoin doesn't currently have, but if it was necessary the developers of bitcoin could eventually add those characteristics to the bitcoin code and make those coins redundant or even useless, then it is very easy to guess that in the future bitcoin is going to be by far the most dominant coin and only a few altcoins that are truly innovative will remain in place.

If you invest in exchange tokens like BNB and ecxx you can profit in a bull or bear market.

There are coins like Dash and Monero who have specific uses and some fun coins that can be used much fuzz such as dogecoin and litecoin, the rest are just filling the market without much use.

We have a ton of smart contract platforms and what is the real use of these platforms in the past three years, to scam people and there was no meaningful project that came out and billions of dollars are lost to scammers and half ass projects, so i do not trust these platforms as the regulators will put a halt to these free markets that loot people.

I'm confident there will be an alt season for the good alts, yes. When will it happen? Obviously everyone wants to know that, but I would think we'd neeed to wait until the markets look better in general. We have been in a bearish trend for a good few months now. Once that is over and we are back to steady price rises, then I think it might be time for alts to really take over.

Altcoins are mostly dependent to Bitcoins price, once its price skyrocket it will like pull other coins too. The real important topic to be talk about is the demand for altcoins, if the demand is slim because idiots keep scamming then definitely that term will become a myth.

that is why there is no Atlcoin season because it is Bitcoin season first before they make a hype (not those pump and dump shitcoins of course)

but what we need to push is the Bitcoin season because that is the way we can see our altcoins grows .and not the other way around so don't look for what you want to happen but what all of use wanted to.

and that is the Number 1 ranking currency to bullrun then our folio will surely grow with it.

It's all intertwined. If you get money coming into the market into Bitcoin, it just as a byproduct goes into altcoins and raises their prices at the same time. It's just a part of more money coming into the market and more money to spend on Bitcoin and other alts. The overall crypto currency marketcap is what you want to keep an eye on. If that goes up, everything will go up in price right along with it.

Not a sure thing yet not all the times it will correlate with Altcoins price it might happen but its either going to opposite side or would follow later on.

Market condition does really have a season but pointing out on when it would happen is impossible but for sure there would be one yet we wont stay up
on this sideways market forever. Altcoin season? Just stick to top ranking ones.

i think in the beginning of 2019 there was a little alt season
i mean you could make x2 x3 your bitcoin, isnt it a lot?
if you do 5 times x3 you already made x243 ..
even if it takes 5 years its a LOT

and yes altseason is a good way to scam noobs
its also a wish of everyone so people really believe in it even very experienced people
and i am sure that it iwll come just because many people believe that it will.

Just some altcoin that able to do that, that's not means an altseason but just a regular altcoin growth which is very rare. Just like binance IEO this year, some of them are having a 10x growth after the sale, but not many people are having the chance of buying that and not many people realizing the price growth would be that big. So i think altseason is where bitcoin price is sideway but most of altcoins are growing.

Altcoins are following bitcoin but sometimes even btc is showing growth alts are not doing the same. That's why other investors chose to switch to btc because they are thinking its more wise since btc is a reliable crypto and unlikely to be just shitcoin like other not popular alts.

Bull run for alts will happen however no one can predict the specific time on how long we're going to wait.

This is very interesting, I also think that alt season is just a hoax to keep altcoin safe from the investment market. But also I still believe that alt season should happen because altcoin really needs it before it gets too deep

At least that makes the market feel better and think optimistic rather than spread BS about the dump for crypto. This to make sure if the bitcoin will also not get a bad impact caused by the altcoin season rumour. This has been talked so many times but it never comes.

Now a lot depends on the developers. If they are active during the bear market and continue to develop the project, I think that when the bull run comes, these developing projects will react very strongly and prices will go up high. There will also be many projects (those that are not being developed now) that will never rise again and their value will go to zero.

I think that the season of alts may not come until 2021, because by that time alts simply will not have time to recover from the correction, which is currently happening.