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It is almost impossible to believe that after developing a good project which might likely succeed because of the product, some so-called developers and teams will still go ahead and list in a shit exchange all in the name of reducing the listing fund or all in the name of no fund to list in the big exchange, if you cannot afford good exchange, why not continue with the development of the project to be able to attract the right investors, why rush to a shit exchange. So many projects that could have succeeded have been buried by shit exchange, and if you care to know, you are the reason why we still have shit exchange because the owners of shit exchange knew that some daft developers and team will surely come and list their projects. Why will someone prepare a good meal and then decide to keep it in a cabinet full of cockroaches? Wake up.

There are many reasons that make developers put their coins / tokens on shit exchange, for investors to be calm because they have entered the market even though it is shit or small exchange. It could be that the exchange itself included it without first asking the developer for permission.
Or it could be that developers are getting frustrated by market conditions but continue to be urged by investors to immediately put them in exchange.

A shit exchange somehow reflects the quality of the project itself. Why would a high quality project, with good partners, working products, and so on settle for the like of YoBit, for example? Exchange listing is needed as soon as there is already utility. They need that for the investors to be able to have access to their coins. However, if they are listed on shit exchanges, that means they are simply discouraging investors away.

There is always a reason behind this, as we can see the majority people who invested their money into the project always looking for a quick profit as soon as it is done or the sale is done. I believe there is no way a legit developer and team would list their coin/token on a shit exchange, but because of their community that kept asking for an exchange. They did not have any other choice but to accept it, there are so many good projects out there got burned because of this and in the end, the community blamed the dev for listing it on the shit exchange. We as an investor or the community should understand the fact that the business can not be done in a single night, there are procedures that need to be done, like filling license, testing platform and etc. Exchange is an important thing, but rushing it will not give us anything good either.

A good project must know how to choose a good exchange, there are lots of good projects that failed because they choose a wrong exchange and after that the team lose hope and just dump their project and leave their investors which make the situation worst for them.

I think this is the fault of the project operator. they don't care about the relationship with investors, that's why they want to make enough money from investors, then they no longer care about the value of the token. because they don't manage their finances the best and have made it a waste to list on a small exchange.
so we can't call it a good project, even though their idea is great but their team is bad, that project is still a bad project.

all these projects that go to shit exchanges go there because they have no other choice, their project is also shitty. it is your mistake thinking otherwise.
whenever you are confused you can always compare things with bitcoin. Satoshi never paid "exchanges" to list his creation, in fact exchanges were built after bitcoin was created because of it. that is true about any legit cryptocurrency that may be created in the future. they will not need to pay any exchange (good or shitty) to list their coin, the exchanges will do it themselves.

I see many of ICO project doing like that maybe their have a reason to do that to listing their coin to shit exchange. I think this is inevitable and they only postpone because basically it will be a shit coin.

You are right, many developers are sleeping, they refused to see that good projects always get trampled on when listed on not too strong exchanges, many of these exchanges have fake volumes and watch trades yet they don't care, its hard to see projects that get listed on binance and died later on

yeah many team and developer not even try to listing their coin on good or big exchange , but this problem also come from investor too, they pushing team and developer to listing the coin asap. But some project can survive to even that listed on shit exchange , the team can control and stabilize the price

Those developers are not dumb like you guys are thinking,they know the end result if they list on shit exchange but they already achieved what they are aiming for,which is the fund raised from ICO or IEO,its just another smart way of indirectly scamming investors and still keeping the project alive

I don't belief that, devs willing list on those exchanges because right from the start its their aims to steal people's fund and satisfy them half way, they are trying to put the blame on failed planned project,its all format

I guess they feel the pressure, but listing in a shitty exchange is really a bad idea.
They should just list it in decentralized exchange and let the project grow more so they can afford to list it in big exchanges.

The team during the crowdsale assured the investors that the coin will be listed in exchanges but like you said, sometimes it's listed in shitty exchange.
Anyway, I think we might have different definition of shitty exchange, because of the hundreds of exchanges that is operating in the market, there are only less than a hundred of exchange that is recognize by the people as a good exchange, they usually based on the trading volume.

Why are you so sure that the only reason behind the fate of those projects is having been listed on a bad exchange? I'm not so sure that is the only reason, maybe those projects are not so attractive to investors for any reason, or maybe the altcoin bear market is pushing them down, it's possible that having been listed on a big exchange would not have changed anything.

if the project is promising , there will always be a demand for it no matter if their devs list it on a bad exchange  but bad projects wont get any atention even if they are listed on a good exchange   .

  i heard there are qualifications or requirements like trading volume or coin supply before a coin can be listed on an exchange  . good projects can easily get those requirments so i dont see any reason on why they wont go for it   .

I won't put all the blames on the developers because many project failed in their fund raising either in ICO or IEO so they won't be able to list on better exchanges,it costs lot of money to list on big exchanges like bittrex or huobi not to talk of binance exchange

Well if they don't get listed on exchange every 6 out of 10 messages will be asking "when exchange?" question. So I guess after some time they just get frustrated of the same question and ends up getting their project listed on some shit no volume exchange.

Exchanges with fake volume or low credibility do not bring enough trust to the project. Investors are not satisfied with results and that cause huge sellout.

If the project is listed on a shit platform, I don't think it's a good project. The trading platform I want to talk about is that there is no liquidity. They do not want to pay to be listed on a good exchange, despite having received money from the investor. These are shit projects.

If you would like to kill yoir project then list it on Latoken or IDEX. I guarantee that your coin becomes dead in few days.

Indeed it is quite annoying for the project team owner to have such inquiry every time.  I have seen some good projects that have not been listed on any exchange having this kind of message often.  Though I disagree with the idea of shit exchanges ends a good project since exchanges only offer these project a way to exchange their cryptocurrency into another cryptocurrency, at the end of the day it is the developers that drives the project to success.  If the project failed due to listing in shit exchanges, this only mean one thing, the project itself including the developers are the one to blame since they are incompetent.

There are a lot of reasons for listing on not a popular exchange and the fist one is greed of team members. Nobody wants to give away 90 percent profit from the token sale to get listed directly on Binance and secondly, some teams are simply stupid and think that listing on five bad exchanges can replace one great exchange.

There is this saying that states that you are as good as the stuffs you attract

Crypto currency has a phenomenal habit, good projects will always attract good exchanges
If a project gets rejected by the top valuable exchanges; I want to believe it is because on the long run; it will be valueless

There are shit exchanges but there are certainly DEX which I don't think it more of a shit exchange, way even better than those mainstream exchanges. When team waits for a huge exchange and so developing their project for more investors to come will upset the investors and will brand your project instead of being a shitcoin. The team can already find ways like listing on Binance DEX by just votes from the community.

no Exchange bullshit, all exchanges are good, but the problem is in the developer, I have seen some tokens that are in normal exchange but have a stable price, the problem is now in the developer, dare they not build projects like saving their budgets to raise the price of their project if their tokens fall, this is not found in the various projects they have developed. sometimes the problem is that the developer just wants to set up the token, without wanting to build the token

Base on your thread mate it seems that you have been through a horrible experience with those so called shit exchange. BTW those so called shit exchange are in many forms even if you see it in CoinMarketCap that has a huge trading volume you must think twice before believe what you saw most of the so called shit exchange have a fake trading volume thats why if the project developer list their coin/token on that exchange with fake trading volume what can you expect? thats the truth the cryptomarket today was plague by shit exchange with fake volume. But not all some exchange has a trustworthy record like Binance that i was using since 2017.

absolutely, most of the coins listed on the latoken and idex exchanges do not have a good price movement, even many new coins have decreased prices when already listed, this is what I often see in these two exchanges.

Is that because traders and investors are often used those big and known names in the market. The liquidity and market volume is very important in order to attract traders and yet, Latoken doesn't have that thing and it brings to be skipped with. However, when it comes into transaction fees it all be fair, the only problem is its market price.

For the number of exchanges today, it is quite to see that some of them will lost the competition while the others keep soaring high and that is it happens with Binance. How their developers taking care of their traders is actually turning them back and giving trust which I do hope that the other exchanges also will do the same.

 

Do you blame the "good developers" when there is alot pressure from investors to get the coins listed on exchanges?
I personally won't bother about exchange as a developer. I could help create a decentralized exchange and get my project listed there to enable members trade the coin
 If my project is good and difficult to resist, many exchanges will list it.  Listing on any exchange will be the last thing in my mind.

At least the team should start from somewhere, it can hurt the true believers but the experienced investors agree to face the reality. The small exchanges are not going to accept the listing query for all projects, they also make a decision depending on the size of the trading volume on other exchanges. Decentralized exchanges will solve the mentioned treatment sooner or later.

The best exchanges never want to be a target for criticism by the social media crypto experts, they will laugh hard if the shitty project is in the waitlist of the well-known exchange.  After checking the coinmarketcap, I become confident one more time in my opinion, the fake volume generator bots choose the useless tokens for increasing the daily volume. This is not a coincidence which happened to random altcoins. The reasons are not hidden from the crypto society but the bot designers aim to catch the new traders in the trap.

The fact is a good project will not start listing on a shit exchange ! It means a lot to a good project to list on a good exchange that has good trading volume and users ! Most times they just want to list on an exchange for investors to trade but most times it’s usually the end of it !

One reason is that projects is really testing the market first that's why they listed their coins in a shitty exchange, or maybe they get a good deal with the people behind the less famous exchanges. Or maybe the CEO of the project has a close relationship on the founder of an exchange. That's why you can't really blame them for listing it to that platform. This is a free market, developers have every right to do anything here, just like what traders or speculator do with their tokens as well. I'm not defending them, it's that it is also unfair to blame everything that's happening to the market to the project itself. We put pressure on them to get listed, and then when they do listed their tokens, we complain and bitch around.

Sometimes it's not the fault of developers, but rather investors. Many people want to become rich overnight, thereby mounting pressure on developers to list even when they're not ready.

Your facts are right though, but I see it in another way. Any "good" project which goes ahead to list on a shit exchange purposely does so and as such questioning the genuineness of that project, that is, is it really a good project? Most times a project might be filled with hype and once the team have collected enough funds will proceed to list in a shit exchange with the excuse that they want to develop their products, the exchange of course will help kill the price in the end, the team will blame the exchange and that's the end of the project; no one will hear anything again about it as investors will partly blame the exchange as well as the team.

It is very correct. If the project is genuinely legit and good, they won't even think of listing their coin to a shitty exchange. They will wait for the right timing to be listed in a decent exchange and will not be rushing things. So if a project has been listed in what you called a shitty exchange, you start to doubt their real intentions and they might not really be up for long-term investments. The dev team will blame others for what is happening but the truth is it is themselves who are making their path in crypto.

I concur with some opinion passed on this post. The truth is most dev fails to understand that establishing utility for their currency is most esential.I still insist the exchange are not responsible for the poor performance because if truly this coins are of value, they wil be of high demand and liquidity on exchange...

to register on a shit exchange the cost is free and cheaper than a benefit exchange. I do not know, developers must have their own considerations. It's just very disappointing when the token listing on shit exchange with liquidity and small volume, it is certain that prices are difficult to develop and tend to dump. so, don't just blame the bounty hunter for the price dump, even traders and other investors are not interested in seeing the token.

You have said it all but sometimes the team lists their token in shit exchanges so as to exit scam later on, therefore no one can really blame them that much. Last year it was rampant, many hype projects did it ; they planned it very well that you will almost believe they will list on good exchange only to end up listing on a shit exchange where the price dropped badly and thereafter they disappeared. Furthermore, I don't think a team with the aim of building a valuable platform will ever think of listing in the shit exchange, it is all about of the plans of fraudulent team.

Some developers do not want to use any fund for listing. Some of them look around for free listing, which us moist times done of decentralized exchange. Any centralized exchange that does not take listing fee, might be a shit exchange.
A good exchange will have what it takes for a good project to succeed.

Somehow, exchanges really make a good impact on a project so if the team wants to succeed they will look for a more good exchange even if they pay huge fees. Shit exchange is useless for a project, for sure they will just failed because of no volume at all. This kind of expenses should anticipate by the team and make a good decision.

I agree with you mate because the developer even that was called a good project is too greedy to get the funds and they don't wanna spent it to be listed on the big exchange site. Even to be listed in a crap exchange like coineal needs 11 bitcoin and that's a huge amount for the developer to waste its funds.
This is why a good project always ended with crap exchange site and so many dumps around this project caused by the dev is a crap.

There are lots of reason why their tokens are listed on shitty exchange. One of it is budget. They couldn't afford big exchange such as Kucoin, Binance etc. The other reason is they want investors to calm down so all they gotta do is get their token listed even on the cheapest exchange and the last reason for me is Some devs make it as their exit scam.

When you came to this industry and most likely there is many people who come to cryptocurrency industry is just for money. Remember when 2017 come and the bull run was started there was many project who gain a huge profit because they were exploit the situation and hype situation to close eyes the investor. Because after that only a few project who stand and successful to face many problem because the token project can be use well by many investor.

This is a learning for us, when we find new project either it is an exchange or token then we have to find the utility of them. Don't only choose the project who offer huge profit because it will blowing you, just pick the reputable team and that is very much at this time. I totally agree with you, when some new exchanges or project who end up in scam and have gave a huge lost is because the user itself some of them who prometed the project. So the solution is make ourselves be filled by knowledge and I believe we never find this situation again.

How can you be buried by an exchange?   Every single exchange helps you to provide more liquidity for token/coin. There is impossible to be to many exchanges. But yes if there are to many then on some that coin will be just listed but no one or rare will trade it.

I feel sorry for investors who can only trade their coins to a lowly exchange and the developers are not moving to list it in a much bigger exchange, they don't care about the zero volume and a very low price as long as they have the funds, they set up the platform, it's enough their alibi is the market is not in a good confition.

I think the only and simplest reason is because of money, those exchanges are usually free of charge, listing tokens, or requiring very small fees. If the projects are really good they will spend money on big exchanges, so instead of blaming exchanges, re-evaluate the projects.

Its not that they dont want to get listed on a fair exchange. Why not listed on a small fry exchange if its free? They say the more the merrier. Actually some believe that listed on a major exchange is good than listed on many shit exchanges. Well they have a point but also, being listed in many exchanges can also add popularity on the project. You can blame the devs or management if they dont have enough funds for a major exchange at least they tried to get listed.

You are very right, exchanges matters a lot, listing in such exchanges, projects we consider as good might end up failing because of the exchange, most times those shit exchanges lacks volume and projects end up being dumped . That is why developers should wait to raise enough fund for good exchanges before listing.

We investors also have our own errors in this too, when we make investment, we forget they have to go through development stage, and then we want them to quickly get inside an exchange so that we can quickly make profit out of them, if they refuse to enter exchange and they continue with development, you see many people frustrating them via their telegram group and already making them feel like they are shitcoins already.

That is why some of them are tempted to get listed on a shit exchange, and then some of them, along the line when they don’t enter shit exchange, while waiting for the time to enter a solid one, they also get carried away along and then forget about the project continuity, but this is not an excuse anyway for people.

yes I think why a team from any project must be urged if the bounty hunter and the investors because they all want to sell coins that they buy earlier, after the team of the project makes the initial step of melisting tokens on the shit exchange

With the development of now many investors are trading in large exchanges. So it would just be pointless if a project registers at a small exchange and I think it will only trash. Many projects fail because there are no buyers, preferably this project should plan registration at Pertukarang with large volumes.

A good project, of course, they have a team and serious development work. So to produce a successful project they must dare to register on a larger exchange.

I am in support of your observation. It is always  a painful thing for as many who have immensely invested in good projects to find out later that such projects are being listed in bad exchanges. It is like putting a clean cloth in dirty water which can really be so painful. I think such need to be quickly addressed as soon as possible. Majority of investors are not actually interested in hastily listing of projects in exchanges that are not profitable just because there are pressing demands from bounty hunters to sell their coins .If it will take some good project coins months to develop their coin value before listing on exchanges, I think this is much better so that every investor can greatly benefit.

Yes. After collecting so much money during ICO, they hoard it all and start looking for free listing from Idex or Bilaxy. Look at Sparkster and DigitalBits. That is the reason why IEO is now considered a better way for fundraising by investors.

You are right and I won't say the developers or team don't know what they are doing thus being an opportunity to abandon the project or could be in reality they lacked what it takes to run the project, therefore meaning it was all hype from the onset; I have seen projects that did this. As a team, even if the right amount needed to run the project, that is hard cap isn't met, there is no harm in listing in a decent exchange that won't kill the project but will help sustain it. In fact, any team listing their so called good project on a shit exchange needs to be questioned, because they have something up their sleeves.

First thing that I want to ask to OP. What makes an exchange a shit exchange? Is it because it is not binance? Not popular? Features? Volume? There are a lot of factors. Possibly that these developers are listing their coin to unknown exchange because possibly that once these exchanges will grow of course they will grow as well as long as they are updating and progress on the project and as for me, listing to big exchange will only give pumps and dumps. I will still prefer organic growth.

There are some good exchanges that are not shit and their fees are not very expensive provided the project has a good community and a dedicated team. Some developers don't take out time to make researches, they act like totalitarians pretending they know what they are doing, whereas they are deluded of working principles.

I think in Telegram, there are a lof of people who force developer to get a market. Maybe with that, that is why developer look to get shit exchanges to listed their tokens at least their tokens can be traded. I am not means that i agree with what developer do about list in exchanges that not reputable yet, but sometime they do it because get forced by people like investors or bounty hunters.

Responsible developers will not give any excuses for the project developments. If they really have a good plan to workout with their project, they won't need to rush things out instead they will keep the project in shapes. Even there are some delays due to many factors that influenced the market, they will keep track,  which is not bad in the long run.

Being listed to any exchanges, both well-known and those unknown to many, should not be a concern if the team behind is really providing good developing progress. It will continue to survive without any fear from the market.

The exchange is just a part of a larger problem... the teams involved in crypto-projects are usually made of young and inexperienced people, and mostly programmers that have no clue how real business life works... this issue reflects in several things that contribute for a good product to fail, one of them is definitely the pressure of investors (also inexperienced on the crypto-market) or the rush to sell their own coins that leads to listing on a shady exchange and to the killing of the project

I think projects that want to go to the top exchanges have to pay a large amount of money, but they can't afford it, so learning to choose shit exchanges for their tokens, I think good projects should look for them. Top exchanges have support for small

Actually there are many projects that do not do tokensale and can be listed on large exchangers. RavenCoin, for example, does not process the sale of coins but can register on Binance. In my opinion, a listing at a large exchanger can be done without requiring large funds as long as the project is good and has prospects

Actually mostly project always look for some exchange where they can be listed even though it is not enough to help their project grow faster. But sometimes they relying on some cheap site wherein probably for them once the site has a good rate it's enough. Wherein they dont make research behind if it's legit or not that's why sometimes they fail because of that some shit exchange that always used fake rates. Actually on this situation we cannot blame them because you know frauds are everywhere.  So i hope all dev will be aware on this kind of stuff next time before listing on somw exchange.

Not all projects listed on a small exchange will be garbage. The small exchange has a low cost and will be easier to enter, it is certainly with the aim to be able to attract investors. And many such things could be successful, and many happened in the year 2017. Indeed now since 2018 many projects have failed. And many fraudsters utilize this condition to steal investor funds.

Yes, I agree if indeed they are business owners who are supposed to be responsible. They know more about cryptocurrencies and should be if they are seriously bound to be on the larger exchanges. I think we should be careful with the project is unclear and promising to be in the small exchanges.

I completely agree with you, now a huge number of companies that conduct IEOs on fake volume exchanges do not collect any funds at all and because of this, these companies close immediately, or just a lot of companies collect the same softcap or even sometimes hardcap and list their tokens on exchanges with fake volume and in a matter of minutes, the price of the listed tokens drops to almost zero, and all this of course was done in order to spend less money on listing token and this of course very hurt investors and community of such projects.

For listings in large exchangers, large funds are needed to pay listing fees and maybe for some new projects, the funds are better used to develop the project. For new projects, it sometimes becomes a dilemma, prioritizing listings on exchangers or funds to develop products while investors want tokens to be traded quickly in the market.

Some successful projects simply do not have enough money to list on top exchanges. I agree that this may affect the project's success in the future.

Teams are trying to save money by entering bad exchanges and some of them even truly believe that latoken, probit and exmarkets listing can have the same value as Binance listing. It is always a bad sign if teams are acting greedy regarding exchanges.

I do not really know why people keep using fees as a big denominator in deciding if exhcanges are good or not.

Think about it, for most of us, do we really trade so much? I do maybe 2/3 trades a month, I know others maybe max 2/3 weekly, what is that in a year? 150 trades? What do you save between 0.1% and 0.2%? 0.15 of your trade. Do we even trade 1 BTC?

A good project should not using bad exchange for their token otherwise the token will die.
if the token have low volume on the exchange, new users will have doubt to buy the token.
different with trusted exchange, even new users can buying the coin because they trust the exchange.

The exchange listings of a particular coin speaks a lot about the trading volume and liquidity of that project. Some investors even look at the reputation of the exchange listings of the project before deciding to join because it serves as a clue to the seriousness of the team. Low tier exchange have low volumes and may affect the trading of a coin if listed there, hence projects must be more concern about which exchange they choose to list their coins.

And most of those exchanges don't have a high volume. tokens that listed on that kind of exchanges are prone to being bankrupt.
we saw the many examples of such coins because of the nagging of their participants on telegram they force themselves to list their coins on some kind of bad exchanges.

registering coins on a bad exchange is not a good idea because it will make the price of a coin have no value. actually it depends on the development team in the project if they are not able to register their coins on a large exchange then it is better not at all than to go bankrupt or become a dead coin. it's true that shit exchange will kill a good project.

Each developer team has a different strategy in determining the exchangers who will list their tokens. Sometimes they first choose a small exchanger to see the market's reaction, whether positive or negative with their project. If it's positive, I think they will move on to a bigger exchanger

They should not let the investors dictate, prior to the actual crowdsale, they already have a written plan on the time frame after the sale.
Listing in exchange is good but if it will only result to dump, it's better to delay the listing, let some investors complain, they can do that all day but the team has no legal responsibility to them as they accepted all the terms prior to risking their money.

The team will have to pay for the listing fee, but they would not get the benefit for their payment if they will just list in poor exchange.
I mean, they also have to carefully analyze the reputation of the exchange and never all to associate their asset to a shitty exchange.

I would not call Bitmax a shit exchange, but it is definitely one of the main factors of Deepcloud AI's and Ferrum Network's disappointing price action after the listing, both projects deserves much more, even in those unstable market sentiments right now.

I strongly agree with you, developing product first my opinion better. if they can't list on large exchange, because if they have experienced dump it will be difficult to return or exceed price of ICO, STO or IEO

there must be a real thought. good projects will not register their tokens on shit exchange. or a good project will not sell IEO on Shit Exchange. even good exchanges will not accept projects that do not have good progress to be listed on their exchanges. that is simple thinking.

It is a pitty that low cap cryptocurrencies are interesting only if they are listed on a good exchange. But why we do not care more about other fundamental stuffs?

There are so many exchanges who were and are shit but can get the project moving.
HYES! not all exchanges are there to hVE THE best token in town, some are just there to keep the shit modes moving.!

There are many developers who make the same mistake and I have a handful of them. It is quite surprising that some of them will still go ahead to give reasons why they list on those shit exchanges. Irrespective of what the reason might be, it is better not to list.

If the team behind is  concerned with the success of their works they should assess the movements that they will going to take especially adding or listing the project in any exchange, even if the investors itself are forcing them to list the coin, it's still needed to assess if such actions will make an impact to the project there's no need to push everything in rush that will only lead to failure of the project, better to stay focused developing and be much ready once the coin being added to big exchange, having solid and progressive works will bring success inside the market.

The developers have a lot of pressure from the Miners.
Miners want to sell their mined coins and do a quick profit.

Our blockchain is KYF (Kryptofranc), and from the first day we announced it, people were saying: "your coin is worth nothing, it is not in an exchange".
Meanwhile we still have development to do, and doing a start-up, so going in an exchange is something that we will do when we are ready but not now!

Of course, that's not what the miners wants. Most do not know anything about our projet. They have no interest into the projet itself.

I think that some coins are listening their miners and are falling under their pressure.
Going into an exchange before being ready is a risky bet, it can kills the value of the coin even before the projet is mature.

We are in a different time than when Bitcoin was alone... there are so many fake projets, people are kind of lost in the middle of a mess.

I think that real projets needs to have roots in the crypto world but also into the real world with investors and an idea that can solve real life issues. Being in an exchange is not a necessity until everything is ready, a bit like doing an IPO and going public for a company.

This is one of the reason that always made me say team also contribute a lot to the successful of their product in all ways by developing the project cos if the team don't do this project will not develop it self and also listing in best exchange is another great thing to kick the project rolling.

How exactly does "shit exchange" ruin the projects? Many teams are just trying to list their token anywhere because there are many angry investors who are waiting for any chance to sell it. And all these people are constantly whining and disturbing the team.

Sometimes good projects there is no chance to place your coins on the major exchanges, because they do not have the money for it. And they have to place their coins at least for some markets to fulfill their promises to investors. In the future they plan due to increased interest in your project to get a listing on the major exchanges.

Even good project cannot made it to the top exchange because lack of funds. Yes by developing their product first it makes their project more successful and can make it to good exchanges. Through this way a lot of more investors attract to have this project.

Exactly, there are so many tokens out there that only register tokens on an exchange that are not clear, just because of the insistence of investors and bounty hunters so there is no volume at all, it just looks like a failed project

even if there is a volume it is often fake. Yes, sometimes listing exchange becomes a long-term plan of the project, if the project is good then it is already listed in the roadmap, often bounty hunters do not understand that and as you said they always ask for tokens to register immediately. So, for everything to run smoothly, understanding and announcements need to be given at the outset, as a bounty hunter must also be wise and accept everything with all the risks.

There are exchanges that charge cheap fees to list their tokens so instead of using the fund to list to a known exchange, they'll take the gamble to that small exchange especially if their tokens were sold out.
The investors can't do anything about that because their money has been locked in and there's no way for them to retrieve it but by simply following the update of where the token is about to list.

Good projects have study their market and wont choose shit exchange where to market it because that could affect the development of it. There are many popular exchange which offer low fees and safer and exists for long term that nothing happen suspicious, which has strong security.

Every developers that aims to achieve success in crypto space must do the following on my list
1. Deliver real use cases which will surely attract big investors
2. Be determined, challenges will occur, be ready to tackle
3. Go straight for bigger exchange, i believe doing this will keep the coin or token alive with better market cap ,volume and liquidity

I agree with this. It's a hard for a new project to be listed on a decent exchange that's true but there are not suspicious exchanges to start from and when this happens it is a good sign for me. But when a project starts with suspicious exchanges (YoBit for example) it can be done with a purpose of wash trading or fraudulent actions IMHO.

There are still people who trust yobit, so as long as it has a great volume, I think it could also attract more traders and investors.
It's not only based on exchange as every has different experience and in an exchange, yobit could be bad for some, but there are people who are still using the exchange until now. it's already here for many years, I still remember in the past when I invested with Waves, IIRC, they are the one to list Waves but as we can see, waves still survive now because it's a legit project.

Imo if it's really a good project and they earn huge amount of money from their investors they would really list it in a good and reputated exchanges. Usually projects that are listed in shit exchanges don't earned much from their crowdsale and just forced to list their coin because their investors are rushing them to do it. If a good project becomes listed on a shit exchange then the team are only into money.

this is not always like you said. there are some projects that simply do not need to lists on any major exchanges from the early beginning. they just don’t need to pay a lot of money for listing on such exchanges

This talk of real use cases, open your eyes. There is not a single use case that has been massively adopted except trading and holding for speculation. The so-called shit exchanges are not the cause of a project's lack of investor interest. It is the actual project and its lack of awareness campaign. Nano had large daily trading volumes in a shit exchange before it was added to Binance for free.

I do not understand why new projects place their coins on shitty exchanges. Even if they do not have the money to place their coins on normal exchanges, it is better then to use the most popular decentralized exchanges.

That's correct, decentralized exchange has a good reputation than some small centralized exchange.
Some centralized exchange are accused of wash trading that's why they have a bad reputation, but in decentralized exchange, we cannot do that, it's the real volume that we are seeing coming from a real traders.

There are only few decentralized exchange now compared to centralized exchange but let's hope with Binance DEX, it will be able to lead the DEX market to gain popularity to attract traders. Binance DEX is still new, launched this year but was able to maintain a decent volume of at least $1 million 24 hours trading volume. https://coinmarketcap.com/exchanges/binance-dex/

But the most and the real things happen by now is that some promising projects turn into nothing cause they are already listed at low volume exchange where it rarely visited by the investors. If project owners want to move their project and succeed, they exert their effort to be listed on the reputable and high volume exchange but they don't. Instead, they let those things to happen and not even giving words for the cause.

It is the same thing for me, I don't see any reasons why good projects put their coins on the exchanges that won't people won't even mind trading in to. It is just ruining the project for me. And even though a lot of people always asking the devs on telegram on when is the listing on the exchange is going to happen, and they are getting pressure out of it, there are good projects that managed to list on binance without taking so much time.

Perfectly correct mate, why we need to patron it is we know it's worthless. No need to argue with this we ned to decide or choice exchnage wisely before put an investment. To avoid worries for the psosible loses of our money in a quick... If learn well before judge it because there have shit exchange begun to be popular and develop well.

Before you get all gushy about Binance Dex - just know in its final state and release it isnt a true DEX  by any stretch of the imagination.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JSCAelH_iuk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQjEpOr4I6U

https://cryptopotato.com/binance-and-neo-accused-by-blocknet-for-stealing-info-used-to-build-binance-dex/
https://en.cryptonomist.ch/2019/02/22/blocknet-accuses-binance-dex/
https://www.chepicap.com/en/news/7613/blocknet-reveals-evidence-binance-stole-technical-info-to-develop-dex.html
https://bitcoinexchangeguide.com/blocknet-alleges-binance-dex-contains-stolen-technical-data-from-its-blockdx-decentralized-exchange/

The main issue of a wallet to wallet real dex is the perception of liquidity.

its catch 22 with a wallet to wallet real dex - we are pretty makers in each case - most people don't do that. They want to get in and out.

So if you are not online - when I post my buy or sell I need to wait for you to come online to buy or sell in a true fully 100% decentralized dex with wallet to wallet trading

I see your point. I've traded on yobit recently but with low volume and everything went clean. I agree that all the exchanges attract traders and investors and could help to discover the project. But on the other hand - such exchanges should be a start-up phase for the better exchanges if the project is legit.

I understand you man, often ask myself the same question. For example, district project (3DC), has good product work hard on it every day, made reports every month how developing goin on, snf listed on crex24 with now volume, zero marketing. Why?? Only now team create marketing and brand branch

You said a very big truth. I have the same feeling, why these good projects commit suicide by listing on shit exchanges. I know a lot of good projects who are now dead because of no volume on exchanges, no investors at all. For example, I want to mention the Iconiq project, such a big project it was. Exchange price was 0.80$ after listing, but later they went through another sale to raise 2 Million USD, but the sale was disastrous! The chose GBEX exchange, which has a very few numbers of investors. So, there is no volume. ICNQ coin buyers listed on IDEX without team permission, but that IDEX helped to keep a minimal number of the volume. But now, ICNQ is a dead project, I liked its CEO very much, he was so friendly and active, but he failed miserably!

Most coins never go to major exchanges. There are many reasons for this. For example, the reason may be that the developers of some coins were not going to fulfill their promises, but simply raised money and stopped further development of the project. Also, some teams have conflicts inside, which hinders the development of projects. In any case, no matter how attractive the project’s roadmap, you should invest in his with caution.

and invest no more than 5 percent of your deposit. everything happens in this market very unpredictable and therefore it is better to be prepared for everything

Might not totally be the developers or teams fault, sometimes they might be facing fund issue to list on big exchanges, its not that easy as many think it is, if you list on big exchange with over 10btc how many fund will remain for the project development? Lets stop blaming these people its not easy to be a developer

High credibility projects will not register its tokens in a weak exchange. Many of us watch shitcoin project was listed in bad exchange because the team cannot fulfill the requirements to enter a significant exchange.

Sometimes the developers only have this  way to do this, to start trading as soon as possible. If the developers do not do this, they may lose a portion of their investors or lose the credibility of their coin.
The inclusion in exchange platforms even if weak gives credibility to the coins

Of course, every developer has own strategy but I think it is not a good idea by listing their tokens/coins on shit exchanges. It must kill the trust of all investors and it tends to the severe decline constantly.


I agree one of the reason is about the high fees for listing on big exchanges. But I doubt if they want to see the market reaction by listing on small exchanges in the early step. I think it is better to put tokens/coins on medium-top exchanges to trigger more investors or holders.

In my opinion, Maybe they want to make a strategy to overcome the dump by Bounty Hunter and register at the shit exchange so that bounty hunters dispose of their tokens at a low price and then buy them at a much cheaper price. but the selection of exchange also does not have to choose a very bad exchange, choosing an exchange that has a bad reputation will actually make the coin's credibility decrease (maybe this is the reason why coins become junk). The last reason might be because the listing fee is quite expensive, but at least choose an upper or middle exchange standard so that many are interested in trading on the exchange.

sometimes it really make a good coin vanish even if its listed in a grear exchange, the reason why is that at the start of project where in developers needs funds for it, they will make an ico or selling of the coins to public  well yes they get money and be able to list the coin to an exchange, or even shitty exchange sorry for the words,
but what makes the coin faith is decided by the holders and the creator, imagine thousands of the coin being dump in seconds , what will the other people think, its not a good project simply because a lot of the people holding it taking profit and leave the coin in dust that's really the truth no matter if its good or shitty exchange we the holders and the creator decides what will be  the faith of a token/coin

The major exchanges (Binance, Huobi, OKEx.etc) have recently increased their listing fee very sharply and many of the smaller and medium-sized projects can no longer afford listing in such exchanges. That said, I don't think that the inability to list in a good exchange affects the future viability of the project. If a project is a good one, then it will survive no matter how bad the exchanges are. On the other hand, if the basics are not good then even a Binance listing is not going to help.

One thing that I would suggest to the smaller projects is to delay the listing. If they are short of funds, then they can limit the trading to DEX platforms. Once the ICO is over, they will be having enough funds to proceed with the project. Listing in any of the major exchanges is not a mandatory requirement for these types of projects.

What is better, listed on shit exchange, or not listed on any exchange ? I think it is better to postpone the listing,
so it can listed on a better exchange. Listing on exchange is very costly, it will be wiser to use the money for the development of the project and marketing to promote the project.

It is much better to collect more money and to get listed on an exchange with real and big trading volume like Binance, Huobi or Kucoin, rather than to keep getting bad listings on exchanges outside top 10 exchanges without big user base and trading volume.

what really ends a good project is the holders
they dump the coin to get profit and move on, I don't think its the exchange fault

I think some of these big exchanges too are beginning to take advantages of people by putting thousands of dollars to list a project that is even not going to worth it, it seems to me that they are now opportunist, having knowing what is going on in the ICO sector, and knowing that the chances of the altcoin even surviving is low, they want to quickly exploit them and make so much form them.

I don’t see what they are charging such huge amount of money for, and some stupid project and some gullible team are actually paying it, if they had all rejected the fee, by now, many of these big exchanges would have forced their listing fee now. Now, please do tell me exactly what service does the exchange offer that they collect so much money? I even learnt of recent that binance was beginning to ask for a protection fee against hacking, can you just imagine that annoying thing?

Sometimes it not just because a good project is trying to cut listing fee,  just to list on shitty exchanges. But as we all know that there are lots of good project that failed to reach hardcap,  this might affect their listing on proposed big exchanges,  although some projects team are greedy and just wanna list so as to get it dumped in exchange,  but not all dump for this motive

If a project is good, even if it started on a shit exchange it will find it way into medium and big exchanges. The issue with this is the impatience of investors, they want to buy a tokens today and start selling it today, just go to telegram group of these projects not yet on exchange, the talk is always when are you listing on exchanges

I think this is the flaw of the project team, as they couldn't care less about the association with investors, that is the reason they need to profit from investors, at that point they never again care about the estimation of the token. since they don't deal with their accounts the best and have made it a loss to list on a little exchange.
so we can't consider it a decent project, despite the fact that their thought is extraordinary however their team is awful, that project is as yet an awful project

This has really being the nature of most projects, but after taking such steps you will realize the project will just die. As for me, I don't think a team who want a future for their coin will list on a shit exchange, any team doing such have another motive. At the same time, I don't support spending huge to list on top exchanges, but it won't be bad getting started on a good exchange which will give the project exposure thereby in the near future they can list on other exchanges.

shit exchange is a one way to provide temporary exchange so that the community will not raging because they have exchange. I do agree with you, if the project is really good and the volume proven to be quite high also the hype some big exchanges may interested to list the coin and that comes with cost aswell I guess just like usually from popular exchanges.

Often not the best projects produce listings on bad exchanges just to make the appearance of some activity. Show investors that the project is fulfilling its promises, because most often such projects do not say in advance which exchange they will list. Note that all good projects conducting listings on the largest exchanges did not fall in price as it happens constantly on bad exchanges.

IMO the most important reason is listing fees, these exchanges charge a very small fee, unlike other major exchanges. That will help the project live up to its promise in the roadmap of listing on the exchange. Then they will gone with investor's money.

A good project will always remain a good project, even if they list it in a lowly exchange, but it's not recommended that they prefer a lowly exchange over a good one, and a good project has in their roadmap goal to list in a much bigger exchange, it's just that they want to list their coin as early as possible, so their investors can trade, but they will eventually get listed in a good exchange, they know that a good project must be in a good exchange.

yes, we see many projects like that. after being registered in exchange for petty trade then they disappear without development or ongoing products. This is frustrating, but in reality, not many projects still survive and run after their first year developing the platform

this happens a lot especially in projects that cannot get a lot of investors, in this sense they fail when selling the products they offer, and they disappear with investors' money, they don't last long and there are some projects that only register coins / tokens on exchanger then leave for no apparent reason

That's one of the big mistakes CEOs make at new startups now. They don't know how the community and its fomo influence the success of the project.
If we see that these are intended projects on shit exchanges, we should avoid them even if they have a good idea, because the results will also go to dust.

Listed it in shit exchange simply means this project is also shit. If you want your project to be successful  you should list your coin atleast one of the top 10 exchange one is enough start as long as this is good exchange while developing it.
If you cannot fund your project for listing why investors would trust your project and buy your token?

There are many kings of flaws if doing this.
If a good team with a good project will be choosing a shit exchange? that will kill the project! oh their token price!
but most teams are greedy and want to give assurance to their investors that the token are now on exchange.
this made them go to xhit exchanges even the volumes are fake or none!
IF a team is serious about development and promise on their investors they will only choose the best one! not to silence the demand from the group but to make the token worth more while they are doing the development of their project.

The problem is not that the funds are lost on bad exchanges, but that they are not transferred to wallets from there and stored until profit. Even on a bad exchange you can buy a coin and immediately withdraw.

Yes, there are lots of good projects that failed because they choose a wrong exchange. Mostly they do it because of the pressure so they choose the easiest way, to list the cheapest exchange. And as result it reflects coin's price.

Just invest in a project that runs it's own exchange, and you're golden, lmao.

I don't like the power all these major exchanges has, it's bullshit to say the least. Eventually when we hit full on regulation, and these exchanges are forced to share your personal info with the governments, I'm sure DEX solutions will blossom up, and people will start to realize how important their personal info really is.

Take a look at Blocknet, one of many projects, who built a DEX, they where the first project to launch one actually, and it's working great! Peer 2 Peer trading is powerful, as it eliminates the middleman. You being in control of your funds at all times.

Do your own research ;)

Actually if coins or tokens are good enough they should be able to survive on any low exchanges even if the volume is not much, its just like when new exchange add pairs like btc to eth or eth to btc on the exchange, there is no way that there won't be buying and selling orders on the exchanged

This is a normal practice in crypto-verse sometimes project owner lists their coins in shit exchange just to please the community.
Sometimes it could be a good thing 'coz we can get the coins for a cheaper price but sometimes this could lead the project to death.

You want to invest on ICO never joining with coin have exchange own platform, your money lost without have ready for their exchange coin, always make beta version but we can sell their coin on his exchange.

I disagree with that. For RET, it has grown very well in the past few months when it was only listed on IDAX. The problem here is not so much related to exchange, the problem is in the community.
If it is a large community, they will automatically increase the volume purchased on small exchanges without big exchange like Binance, Okex, Huobi. Because projects that rely on fame to survive, will be banned. For example, DEEP has been delisted from Bitmax (first IEO), Perlin, Pundi X, BTT has also been delisted on Binance.

Right now there are projects doing IEO on exchanges such as Finexbox. You don't see these exchanges back in 2016 but they are now doing IEO following the steps of what binance did. The next 5 years all these will also be gone just as how cryptopia and coinexchange turned out. Coinexchange is about to shutdown.   Investors wouldn't register to these exchanges, submit the required documents for KYC to invest. I could be wrong but if they list their coin there, it will have low volume


DEX it is. But how sure are we that the government are not going to cease these DEXs?

every project that iwill be on a shit exchange will be there end.
If they have a good sales why they will choose a shit exchnge? a great one will pull then up like binance or what ever that is on top!

Or maybe there just are too many shitcoins with too much sell pressure; if they all would be listed in good exchanges, there wouldn't be any good exclusive exchanges,
every one of them would be just filled with shitcoins. And with every project comes with a small community that thinks that their project is somehow better then others and deserve the binance at least :). They don't see that they are just another shitcoin and no one would be interested no matter what the exchange is.
Good exchanges are doing everyone a favor by weeding them out.

Other reason is that people haven't got time to study everything. There are gems that will be left unnoticed (for now at least). They might have an active development team that keep on building without looking at the price. But somehow people still think that the price and the exchange is destroying the project. I consider myself lucky when i can buy them with discount because i know from experience that they have huge growth potential.

Very often, new exchanges have trade volumes by bots and it doesn’t matter for them that there are no trading this coin. On such exchanges the listing will not be canceled, and the team wins in the time-obligations to investors are fulfilled-token is on the exchange.

This has been a problem since the beginning of the ICO market, most of the projects do not care about their token. Their business plan does not include  caring about their token price. They get their funds and their out, in best case they develop a good product, in most cases they just pretend to be working.

It's what happening in crypto market. Very few projects can afford to spend a huge amount of money on the initial stages of the project, and the listing fee is one of them. So they will choose the easier way, which is to choose shit exchanges to list.

everything is equally related. when a bad exchange that contains a good project there will certainly be doubts about investing there. Likewise for a good exchange but with a bad project, when they release an IEO sale there it will end badly and that also has a bad effect on the exchange rating.
logically, a good project will be listed on a good exchange too. that is the best way to choose to invest. but when only one is, it will certainly be the weakness of the project or exchange.

I agree with @Mealea view on these garbage exchanges that we see all over the internet, but taking into account that most contributors are eager to see the coin listed on some kind of exchange as soon as possible after the ICO ends and most projects/ICOs don't have the kind of funds and/or development to list on one of the major exchanges, a smaller non-reputable, cost-effective exchange is the obvious choice. Of course that the big dogs don't operate on that kind of exchanges, but at least it gets some kind of exposure and liquidity.

If you watch what happens on projects' telegram groups if the crowdfunding ends and the coin/token is not listed yet on an exchange, you'll be amazed. Most of the complainers are bounty hunters and people who bought at massive discounts though. So it is in their best interest to sell the tokens as soon as possible.

I think reliable exchanges is play very imimportant role to grow up any projects. And trading volume will be huge increasing by the biggest exchanges. Many projects have strong liquidity and potential development but which is cannot survive long term for listing in shit exchange and it’s mainly responsible to make dead within very short term. A few millions dollar raised project will going dead for the low quality exchanges like as Latoken,Exrates and Exmarkets. But of course huge amount of dollars need to be reach big exchanges.                       

You are  point  most  project  kill their  by listing their token or coin on shit exchange.  When  you list your  token  on shit exchange  how would you expect  serious investors to  get  to  trade your  coin or token.  because  serious investors  only  trade on bigger exchanges.  So  i always advise projects  that  instead  of listing on many  shit exchanges  its  better  to use that  money to pay   to  get listed on 1 bigger exchange. 

yeah, but I think the reason why other good project ended up in a shit exchange or a small exchange its because they dont have enough money or funds to take their project to a good exchange, we all know that for a good exchange they need at least 3btc for a 2 pairs only (eth and btc) nowadays project has a small profit because of many competitors. i hope projects have their own fund before going in an ieo or ico.

they will slaughter good projects and even shitcoins are mix with the good ones.

It is funny to see Latoken as a exchange with the highest trading volume on Coinmarketcap. The reallity? If you want to buy/sell cryptocurrencies here you will have a rela problem with enough liquidity.

I agree with you. Because we saw lots of good project's coin price become trash only because of shit exchange. I had a big hope on WES token last year, even they had real use cases. But when they listed on Latoken exchange, the project started falling down and now there is no WES token anymore! But sometimes it can be different. If you Don't have products or any kind of use cases for a long time then your project's token value will be trash! In Binance, hundreds of coins listed and many coins are like dying badly. 

Many exchanges as Latoken at crypto market. Just fake volumes. Latoken is ok, most of the users know it is shit exchange.
How about Okex and Huobi? A report published that more than 90% volume of Okex not real and more than 60% of Huobi. May you the report also answer of the Okex CEO.

Okex CEO claimed that they can prove at least 10% of their volume is real.  He want to show 11% :)

Shitexchanges = low volume or faked volume are then biggest danger at crypto

It is very expensive actually to list a new coin or token on any top-level exchanges like Binance and Kucoin. And it takes a long time too. That's why the developers of so many projects decide to list their tokens in exchanges with the low volume of trading, or shit exchanges.
It is affecting the project surely, because not all potential investors would trust easily such exchanges.

I also believe that the listing on the stock exchange is not a mandatory factor for the success of the coin. For some reason, many developers dont understand this and believe otherwise. Personally, I also believe that the team is better not to rush and listing coins to do on a larger exchange.

There are now many bad exchanges due to its bad customer support and also bad reputation from the community. We should only use the exchange with good reputation from the community and have good service. 

Of course, they are so inflated trading volumes that it is ridiculous to look at. I do not think that anyone believes these volumes at least among experienced users. I think Latoken is an exchange on which only shitcoin is traded.

Maybe we often see new projects after completing ICO and IEO, they register for exchanges that are classified as low, or do not have users. Yes, I think it's true what you said, after all this time running the project, then their ending made it to an exchange with no users. This will make the token die in the exchange. But signing up for an exchange like Binance is also very difficult. Because of exchanges like Binance many coins are listed, so it takes a long time to do it.

I found many cases like this with listing some coin have raised hard cap and success sold out in ICO sale by listing with shit exchange market and make price ICO coin down lower than ICO price, I invest with many ICO success reached hard cap but become lower price by dev is not trusted with listing on shit exchange market.

Well investors should understand the current market state. Putting a project in any exchange would not put a value to a coin. It is only a waste of money that could have been used for project development. Sometimes it is not just the developers that should be blamed why some qlts are dying, it is sometimes investors fault.

You are right but sometimes the team of the project will be force also to list in an exchange that they can afford because of the bounty hunters and the investors that are pushing them when exchange?

These are the common questions that will pop up anywhere in their social media channels if they will not list their coins base on their target roadmap.

It depends on an exchange. There is a lot of scam places that don't pay out money.

Basically the projects do not want to pay the listing since the amount of listing is sometimes depends how good or popular the exchange is. In that case, low quality projects have no choice but to list on low quality exchange as well. But it still depends, maybe the projects team aren't really giving their support to their coin, disregarding the investors and are selfish to their projects profit.

Even a quality project sometimes use  to list it in not so popular exchange ,maybe becuase they dont want to use the funds raised  in development for listing.
There are many project do this things not thingking  that if they will list it in popular exchange the volume and adoption of this project will increase .

Well I guess the reason why they want to listed in shit exchanges it's because of cheap listing. They really don't want to list in big exchanges because you know too expensive. I've heard millions of dollars to get listed, I don't know if that is true, that is too much. Well the dev said that when someone asking when they will list in big exchange.

Totally agreed into this. Some developers are forcing their good project tokens into shit exchanges that's why the token will be bought in there at the first time listing and then the following days will be doomed. The value of the token will just keep going down. If they just only waited to be listed in some good exchangers for sure the value would increase and the token will be level up. Maybe it is the right time that any new projects will be collecting or sepate a money just to listed in major exchanges so that the value of token will not be doomed.

It's undeniably true that forcing their coin or token into a shit exchange will definitely bring down the price to another miserable level because there's just no liquidity there and I wonder what kind of silly people willingly to put huge amount of money into a shit exchange anyway. Therefore it's always better for the project itself to be able to get listed into a big exchange despite the fact that they usually charges huge fee but it's better than making the coin valueless simply because it will bring down the project to the stage of bankruptcy and will result more loss to the project rather. However I believe that if a coin could perform really well even better bring the hype some good exchanges might pick it up.

Dev is not the only one at fault here, many bounty hunters are always asking if when did they plan to put the coin into an exchange. In this case, the project will be put in rush to everything. Everyone wanted to sell their coin immediately to get their payment instead of waiting for the project to finish the things they need to do. They wanted to dump the price of the coin even if it is not yet started circulating in the market.

This is what I want. In the sense that the developer or team of a project, must really develop their ideas first until it is actually realized rather than just selling the idea at the beginning with the frills ICO or IEO. Sometimes the roadmap they provide also cannot be realized on time. Therefore, it's better to finish your idea first and launch it to attract investors.

On the other hand, developers are also urged by bounty hunters to immediately register on the exchange, which in turn refers to shit exchange. If this is indeed the reason, it is better for bounty hunters to be paid with BTC, ETH, EOS, or whatever already has a market price. This is to minimize the fall in the price of the coin or token when entering the shit exchange.

I am afraid that in many cases the users can't afford to do so. Take the case of bounty hunters for example. After the campaign is finished, the rewards are being paid in the form of tokens. Now these tokens in many cases will be traded only in one or two minor exchanges. So the user needs to register for these exchanges in order to cashout his bounty. This is not an easy process, as most of the exchanges now ask for KYC verification. And it can be risky as well, as you are sending your passport copy to unknown people. But there is no other choice for the users here. These tokens will never get listed in the major exchanges such as Binance and Huobi. And the users needs to exchange it before the tokens get completely worthless.

Shit exchange could give bad reputation for good project, don't care you ICO sold out in few weeks but if listing on shit exchange market become bad coin with lower price, otherwise if not good coin but dev and team want to work for listing with big exchange market I think shit coin become great and higher price coins.

I agree with the issue you raised in your writeup. And I want to add that in some cases investors and/or bounty hunters are fond of pressurising the developers and the team for a listing on exchange. The situation were not always being handled well by the team and often times they bowed to the pressure of the community demands, thereby list their tokens on some shit exchange when it was not even planned. I've been in a few communities and I have observed how impatient investors and other players can be.

Everyone needs to remember that the exchanges play only a very small role in the cryptocurrency valuation. The most important factors are the viability of the project, reputation of the team members, adherence to the timeline and legal status of the project. Exchanges come in to picture in a later phase, after the ICO is completed. If the project is a good one, then it will survive even if no major exchanges list the token. On the other hand, if the project is not adhering the timeline, then there will be no use even of it is listed in a major exchange such as Binance or OKEx (normally these exchanges won't allow shit projects to be listed).

It is because the number of users of those not so popular exchanges are not so high, they cant supply the volume required to circulate in the market. They can easily dump the price if its supply is limited to a small volume, and it will lead to a non-circulating and no value cryptocurrency.

we have lots of token with great potential but the team with very low focus went to list the token in bad and very low liquidity exchange also can damage the project and most dont know what decentralized and safety is mean for every investors to have their token traded in big or low exchnage as the exchange can be compromise and all sltoken can be stolen.

Agree, in my opinion there are many good projects and have products but because the team decided to register on a small exchanger, large investors become ignorant of the project. With small liquidity, I think it is difficult for good projects to develop and attract investors because large investors usually look for tokens or coins that have large liquidity

Sometimes a large exchanger imposes a very large listing fee and the developer team makes the decision that the money is better used to finance the project. Indeed, some large exchangers sometimes provide free listing fees, but very rarely.

Greed of team management is an end to good projects. If team members are greedy, you can forget about good listing, promotions, marketing campaigns, bonuses and much more. Not only exchanges, but the wrong attitude is the reason for failures.

Big exchanges are always very serious about listing a new coin because they often evaluate the project very carefully and must meet the criteria to be listed here. I usually choose good projects at Binance exchange because this is an exchange that allows investors to liquidate at any time and the trading volume is always very high, so evaluating a good project is very easy.

Also before investing you should monitor some fluctuations of this market because if you do not invest in the right time, you will face a lot of big risks.

A shit exchange will decrease a good project value because shit exchange no have any good partnership, activity support, and no have biggest investors or traders. So everyone smart investors want follow good exchange with more safetyfull security.

Usually after a token sale investors always ask the team of when they exchange their token and as the team owners they don't want their investors to get angry at them so they list their token on an exchange with cheap listing fees since they are managing the funds collected to sustain the project for the long run.

Depend on how owner want to make their coin at the future, many of them make their coins become lower because listed with shit exchange market, they are looking for which one exchange market have less fee for listing their coin without care about how price after listing, higher than ICO or not just thinking about his profit.

I think exchanges are not solely responsible for the dump of a project. If a crypto project is good enough and has potentiality to grow, it does not require so called good exchanges to grow. It does over time no matter in which exchange it is listed. I have seen that some coins have not grown even after listing in so called good exchanges.

sometimes it is confusing if the project is good enough but does not qualify for entering a large market because it is important to know that every exchange has rules that they make and it is quite difficult for coins that have low standards to get into the market

Do not use exchange if you feel something is fishy, you should always be careful on what exchanges that you use. There are a lot of shit exchange that have high fees and low security.

Agree, rather than hesitate to use exchangers that look suspicious, it's better to use exchangers that are already known to have a good reputation. In addition, it is better not to keep the coins we have in the wallet exchanger because it is very vulnerable and it is better to keep it in the wallet that we control the private key

Good projects are not supposed to be listed on small exchangers because they will not attract large investors. The problem with small exchangers is the small transaction volume and this makes the price manipulated.

As a start new project should choose exchange in hurry to attract investors, and and big exchanges may require time and money, that is why they use this exchanges.
If the project is good i will buy it whatever the exchange.

Exchanges are third party services, I don`t see that shit exchange can mean an end for a good project. Good project is a good project, they will work hard to be listed on many exchanges not just one. As third party service they can`t be responsible for dumping certain coins and tokens, seller is the one who set up sell order, not an exchange.
Shitty exchanges are shitty for high trading and withdrawal fees, bad support and probably other things. If exchange is bad, don`t use it, don`t even think about holding some funds there. If you are a true believer in some project you will hold until they get listed on some better exchange, which will happen if they are a good project. Bad projects fail with or without exchanges.

I agree with you at this time there are many good exchanges but they are not used anymore because in fact they have misled users. Pay attention again before choosing an exchange to secure your money, especially large exchanges such as KuCoin, Binance, Bittmex are good to use, the trading volume there is also large.

Project teams are just too greedy to realise that as soon as they will get listed on an exchange like Binance, their token would double or triple from its ICO price. But instead a listing on Probit comes and destroys the coin value completely.

That's the fact because the fund is an issue in a first place and some developers think it is okay for the investors and supporters once they put their project in any exchange but they don't realize the big impact to their project once their listed their project in a shit exchange for sure it will end up worst.

Now listing on any exchange destroys the price of the project. I have not seen a single project which after ieo has grown in price and I still don’t understand why this is done

One of the most important factor of any crypto related project is, Exchange. Without exchange there is no value to their product.
If this exchange is not good enough, project may get closed with full loss.
Projects should raise funds considering the budget of listing the coin on top exchanges.

Every good project list their crypto coins on good exchange platforms. If a project list their coin on a shitty exchange platform, this should tell you that the project is a shit project on its own and was developed just to scam investors off their money. I don't really think any good project will list their tokens or coin on a platform that has no significant volume.

do not know the exact reason, but if indeed their project is good it should not be a problem people will continue to buy their shares, even though how many in a bad place, but that certainly reduces the intention of some people.
maybe the main reason is the expensive listing fees, but we know there are exchanges that don't charge fees for listings if their project is indeed good ::)

If the project does not have enough funds to implement IEO at a good exchange, then the project will not be interested by investors because at this time people are very careful in investing. I think listing at a bad exchange is not a good solution for project development because investors are usually only interested in the liquidity of that coin. This market is now very harsh and 70% of altcoins will be removed from this market this year.

Shit exchange is not wrong with the end of good project, but why dev developer and CEO of ICO want listed their coin on shit exchange? Shit exchange give offer with lower price for listing all of ICO coin on their exchange market, many dev ICO want to listed on shit market because they have pay lower money than have using big exchange market, why many good coin become lower price because dev want to pay with higher amount for listing with big exchange market.

It's not wise to list a good project in a shit exchange because people are usually looking on exchange reputation than the project's reputation.
A team that are smart will always consider the effect of listing in a shit exchange, shit exchange is normally for shit coins and shit coins has no future at all.

So the OP saying is that the blame here is the cryptocommunity at all? Are you out of youre head, of course the exchange launches due to the fact that they wanted to be like major exchange such as Binance, Kucoin and many more. Aspiring exchanges who are striving to be on their level but youre right some of the exchange is probably trying to scam small developers and projects here. But it doesnt mean that some new exchange are shit.

Actually if you see it from the good view, first entry on shit exchange is not always bad except the investors itself aiming just for a quick profits.
For me, a new project entering shit exchanges (bad exchanges with low daily volume) is just a beginning of their journey to get to the top, we should support their decisions as an investor

You don't know that exchanges are free to list their coins of their liking? While developers needs to request and needs to pay especially on big exchanges. When a decentralized coin and token is launched then no one can stop anyone from purchasing it even criminals, the same with exchanges to list them on their own markets. Maybe this was mentioned already here because the topic was created nearly a month already.

A good variety of projects is unfortunate if the listings on market exchanges that do not have supply and demand that makes the price unstable.
Some reasons like they do not want to spend much capital for listings or do not have funds for listings on a good market exchange like binance.
It is unfortunate that such a good project and does not attract investors.

In your opinion, this is the reason why good projects choose bad exchanges? Because they are in a hurry? I don’t think so, and it's strange.
Any project is aimed at successful implementation, it is obvious that working with a bad exchange the chances of success of the project coin are somewhat reduced.
Only one thing can justify such actions - an unsuccessful fundraising.

First there are no good projects to begin with the good project devs are now not interested in cryptocurrencies anymore since the bitcoin and alts especially ethereum price goes down huge in last 2018 the reason why no more good devs and team that invested in smart contracts. Now, IEO became a thing shitty devs saw this opportunity to create a shit coin to dump it in exchanges.

It is now impossible to predict what will happen next in this market because any investment in this market has its own risks and that will affect our profits. It is possible that IEO is the fastest solution to make money but the risk will be very high if not careful because there are currently more than 100 scam IEO projects available at normal exchanges and the opportunity to make very low profits because So think carefully before investing in IEO.

A good project is when there is a loss or loss for any reason. Then the investors suffer the most. Investors always want to lose their capital but because of some bad project they are losing their capital.

they lost money because they dont care loosing it. in the first place you should not invested to project that cannot guarateed a return . investing in ICO is not sure money you might loose too much if you trust too much for a project .

Bad and scam project coin because listed with shit exchange market, if many ICO want to listed with big market and always make announce for listing with big exchange I think no one of ICO will be lower price, but many time ICO listed with shit exchange market have less volume transaction and not many investor on shit coin will make price down and ICO become scam with lower price, if listing with big market many investor want to buy after listing.

If IEO or ICO when finished selling to be able to measure the project we can see where the initial market listing they will choose. whether the strategic exchange category or the exchange is only Fake Trading Volume. this is the initial assessment that we can give to a newly launched project whether good or not to choose

If, for example, IEO was announced by the Binance exchange, which is a very authoritative resource in the cryptocurrency market, then I completely trust the new project in this case.  If it is announced by less famous exchanges, then I am concerned about these projects.  And any changes that the team makes should be in relation to its project, should be duplicated and explained also by the exchange that conducts IEO.  I suppose if things are exactly like that in this situation, then many problems can be solved.

Alas, you are right. The crypto market can be divided into segments, some have more money and they are of better quality, others have less and they are weaker.
The Binance Exchange and its like are included in the top segment, which causes the most confidence from investors, which means that no matter which project will be placed on Binance, it will immediately receive a large credit of trust, at least for the time of the sale.

This is really a true story. Good projects are still good until they are listed in a shit exchange. There are only few exchanges that are good like Binance. I used to join into bounty campaigns of the projects that looks good for me and I supported them from the start until the finished doing their coin offering, it was all good until the team decided to apply to shit exchanges because they are being pressured by the users and investors of the project because they really want to trade the token but they didn't know that rushing all of the major things in a project will end up really bad and the price of the coin turns out to be falling under the ICO price and the project just went straight up dead.

It is unfortunate if good project coins sign up for bad luck. Moreover, lately many pesky exchanges have sprung up that only want to reap profits, thus making other people trading there losing. it looks like that unlucky exchange must be removed so that others don't lose.

Without any doubt projects that are listed on exchanges like Exmartes are already dead. Team members think that they can save money from token sale by listing their tokens on such exchanges, without even to understand that this is a fatal decision.

I dont think that teams behind such projects really care about the investors in their project or the price action of their tokens. Most of them have successfully or semi-successfully bagged a hefty amount of funds via ICOs and IEOs, so their "job" is done. So they are probably aware that listing on these low-tier exchanges is a suicide, but as I said before, they probably just dont care as their wallet has been filled already.

as we know that such a project has become the original plan of the developer. because no developer wants to destroy the good project they have built, just because of a bad exchange. so logically developers who are really serious will always develop their projects well including registering on large exchanges. You can redefine what I mean.

It really baffles me after so much wait, why then list in exchanges without volume, a shit exchange. Sometimes I know investors are the cause of this, the want to see the projected listed, but that is wrong, it's not just about listing  but listing in an exchange that will increase the value of the project, also sometimes these developers don't want to spend so much on listing,  they need so much profit and at the end they spoil everything with they have worked for with their hand.

Developers should focus on listing their tokens, their project are becoming shit if they got listed on a exchange that doesn't have enough users. There are only exchanges that are good so the developers should focus on listing their coins in these kinds of exchanges.

If a project is good, people will find any suitable exchange to buy a token.

if the project is good, it will not be included in the garbage exchange, so the conclusion is not the problematic exchange, but the project is not good.
sometimes there is a project that promises to be listed on a popular exchange but in reality they can't.
what is clear is that there have been many popular exchange feasibility tests putting new projects on their altcoin list.

Sometimes, dev and team are not focus on a good exchange as they know how much cost it is worth, and it is too expensive. For some team, they would prefer using their money in developing their platform rather than having a good exchange but no real use case, if the project is good, the good exchange would really like to list them at very cheap price and sometimes for free.

Pay attention to the coins that conducted IEO on such large exchanges as Coinbene / Bitforex. all projects that fell on these exchanges also fell very deep in price. I think that only a Binance can withstand such fall, but after some time delists some pairs as it was with BTT

Yes, I have seen many such instances where the project is so wonderful that it suddenly turns into shitcoin.

To be aware of you I will also give the names of these tokens as per

Buddy, Araw, Sapien Network this is this great project that was ruined by shit exchanges.

Latoken big listing fee, fake volume. p2pb2b fake volume with many bots.

Seriously i don't expect all new projects to met their hardcap and if they don't there will be problem to list on big exchanges but even mid rated exchanges are plague with problems like fake volume and bot trades, really most times i don't blame devs who can't list on better exchanges

I do agree.
It seems that it is not on the exchanges no more where problem arise but to the bear market itself. Right now, no matter what exchanges they list a new coin, its market value will still fall as being influenced by the market behavior. This implies, in my opinion, that this is not just the right time for projects. The proof to this I think, are those numerous huge projects which had good exchanges, huge potential and popularity but the coin still ended up with a market value far from its ICO price, perhaps.

Developer want toe earn much profit with ICO investment by listing with sit exchange because very lower paying fee than listed coin with big exchange market have higher cost for listing, Developer not asking or want to get vote from investor after ICO success which one better exchange for listing? shit exchange wavailable to make price down or not, how if listed on big exchange market and price will raise up or not.

The company that will list the project inside shit exchange and let the project be dumped without anything to do are developers who are aiming only for money. It's not good practice to allow your hard work being completely crashed after being added to a shitty exchange, developers ho have long term plans will delayed the listing instead. They will not forsake the project just to satisfied dumpers but they will find possible ways to secure the survival of their project.

It's always a sad time for investors after investing in a project with mind-blowing features, and successful token sale, ends up listing on shitty exchanges. Well, some team members may have in mind to list on bigger exchanges with time but that's a terrible approach. I'm not saying they should do more than their listing budget, but at least they should list on a reputable exchange provided they raised enough funds during token sale. I won't blame projects which barely hit softcap anyway, since it will be clearly funding issues.

maybe for them (the project owner) if they add to the list of tokens / coin market exchanges they will be increasingly recognized by the masses.
compared to serious projects they will continue to develop these projects until they get a quality investor and in the end the developer buys a good market exchange too, so that there is a good trade-off between investors and developers.

I won't even pretend to understand the process by which coins/tokens get listed on exchanges, but I would say that it would not matter to me what exchange a token is listed on as long as that exchange can be trusted not to scam you.  There are a bunch of lesser known exchanges that might be considered shit, but they are still at least honest.  SouthXchange is one that comes to mind, one of the only ones that sells gridcoin.

New projects probably just want to get their token or coin onto an exchange as quickly as possible, and they start with the ones offering the least resistance first, hoping to make it onto the bigger ones eventually.  Might that not be how it works? 

I think if the ICO succeeds and reaches the target I am sure the developer will put their tokens into a better exchange and if ICO sales only get a small amount of funds the developer will enter into a cheaper exchange and some are free, this is not the insistence of investors but from developers because the funds are not only for listing exchanges but for the progress of the project.

After the qualifications of teams and developers the next big thong to be worried about is exchange, with new projects all i make sure i always do is try to know which exchange they are aiming for, if its like p2p2b2b i will move on, exchanges always affect the live of new tokens and coins

There are many reasons why team members list their coin on shitty exchanges, the first reason being greed. Some allocation of token on white paper is not real, you might see 5 percent for team but in the real sense it's 50%, this is bad for the project since fund allocation for product development, marketing, exchange listing will be small. When this happens, they can't meet up with listing on good exchanges with fair trading volumes, therefore listing on crappie exchanges which will dip the price of the coin most likely. Well, some will list on shitty exchanges and later list on bigger reputable exchanges and that's fair enough. It's all about management of funds and strategy anyway, listing on reputable exchanges after token sale is essential.

Actually, if a good project continues to choose shit exchanges for listings is not the fault of the developers alone, because Investors are also
wrong to keep pressing developers so that the tokens are immediately listed. So the developers finally chose shit exchanges for the destination
due to investor pressure. Because to be accepted at good exchanges is not easy because there are several requirements to be fulfilled. And it
takes a long time, so developers prefer shit exchanges for coin listing, because it is considered easier and faster procedure of course. But once
the listing on shit exchanges even though the ICO project is good, the price will still be dumped because fake volume. So my advice for developer
is to be more careful in choosing exchanges for listings. And advice for investors more patient and wait for Tokens to enter exchanges. Give
developers a chance to do its work.

I know that why the major focus of projects is not to promise high returns on investment but most of them fail to understand that sustain the project and expand their community, their token has to be attractive which means it has to be profitable to invest in.

If there is no clear reason why you are listed on the shit exchange listing, you can blame the developer and his team. Usually the shit exchanger and shit coin are in the same place, nothing is disadvantaged except investors. However the conditions are, I'm sure investors are also wrong in choosing where to invest.

In other cases why they are on the shit exchanger is because of pressure from investors themselves. Registering an exchanger with a low volume level is very easy, where only enough to pay for a place there. Whereas for large exchangers they usually vote and the number of communities determines the place.

a big mistake if a project cannot survive and build trust in the community because if they don't do it their project could be destroyed. and to put coins in the market there are also a number of exchanges that do vote for the entry of a coin and this requires a lot of votes to win it. usually the coins that win them have a strong community

the most important thing is that the community must believe in the project. if the community believes the creators who constantly make updates on the project - then they always promote projects in all resources

I think that reason also makes sense, because support from the positive community will not make developers launch their tokens on bad exchanges. unless the developer does not plan to develop their product further or does not have enough funds there will only be 2 choices. including stopping the project or registering a token on a bad exchange, if the decision is really a must.

In our power to ignore projects that we do not like, it's easy to do. Also, we can easily ignore the exchange, which for one reason or another are bad, thus we will deprive these exchanges earnings on commissions from our trade. So we are the power and we can decide.

This may sometimes be due to funding or that developers do not have enough money to go to large and popular platforms.

What op is pointing out is why they will rush to make money out of their project if it's not well planned from the start that they should be in a good exchange. It's part of their business plan to engage with a good exchange to tell that this is serious business and we know that many used to depend on exchanges these days. And some of these developers doesn't see the importance of being in a good exchange, they think that just because it's on exchange the investors will treat it as something good and an achievement.

Most of the IEO projects try to list in shit exchanges because first of all they have not enough money to looking for bigger exchanges this is the main fact at the moment. IEO projects will be get list their own money how can be save money firstly without no fund raise. But some devs are too rich only they able to endorsement with big exchanges likes spending 10btc-15btc. But really some team are very greedy because they will never add to reliable exchanges after a few millions of dollar collected.                       

This should be a good example that developers should consider improving their project before jumping into exchange listing. Listing their tokens is easy if their projects have a good trades with their investors and not just having listed on shit exchange.

That's more reason good projects needs to make due diligence before listening their token on exchanges

It was always a well-known fact, but a lot of teams do not want to learn from others mistakes. A bad listing is the same as to kill your coin, because once the price has dropped, it would be extremely hard to recover.

a good project will not put its tokens or coins in a shit exchanges, because as far as i have experienced at least the team will be really selective in having exchanges to keep the project name and the coins have a good reputation in the community. so when any of them or projects put their coins on a random exchange, it can be assumed that if the project is not really good to continue to do greater development

Indeed if a good project are really prove that they are going listed on a good exchange their will be a chance for the project to be popular and many investor are willing to invest. And yes one of the new project right now are selected to listed on the exchange are unknown for us so we can tell for that a scam if the project listed in a shit exchange actually it is happen in this year their are lot project listed already from shit exchange.

What you said there is kinda true but do you know how much a tier 3 or 4 exchange asks for a listing ? Some of them ask for 10BTC which is insane lets be honest for an exchange like that as some years ago with 10 BTC you could have listed on bittrex and poloniex on both time but now exchanges got greedy and they want as much money as they can in orider to make more volume.

What they don't understand its instead of listing good projects at low rates to make volume and bring traders to their exchange they prefer this greedy marketing solution to ask for huge amount of money. So guilt its on both sides as the team prefer to list on no-name exchanges instead of going for a dex at start and then slowly build their way to the top exchanges.

Exchanges are killing coins and coins are killing exchanges ...

Expensive costs but with a strong community guarantee, of course, be the choice for projects that are truly profitable and have a strong commitment to developing the project. That is why the project which is not strong enough, would definitely prefer an ordinary exchange with lower cost, of course. Of course, we all hope that the project will be more responsible and better prepare the strategies related to the intended exchange, it all needs preparation. If they have cooperated with the global exchange, surely the community formed will be faster. Form favourable symbiosis.

It is better not to invest in any project, than to invest in a project whose theme does not careful what the outcome might be. There are quite a good number of exchanges in the crypto space, although, their fees might be much, but it is better to list on just one of them, than to pile up so many unreliable exchanges.

I strongly agree with you, the project runs for months or even years, how the project entered into a low-volume and fake exchange, while the project that runs very quickly and precisely enters a very good exchange volume, I agree if the project extension is carried out to attract many investors but must enter the large exchange market if the project lasts long

in some case why developer make decision to listing their coin/token on the shit exchange is the investor desire, investor want to get back their money with high profit as they expected, but the reality many of the project after listed are ended in 1 satoshi.

and in other evil case, developer want sell their reserved token allocation for themselves

Entering Shit Exchange is one way to increase their trading volume.
As far as I know, for a coin or token to be listed on the Coinmarketcap site, there is a minimum trading volume.

Agree, sometimes there is a dilemma in this problem. The developer team that is able to obtain large funding also thinks about the continuation of the project if the funds are spent mostly on listing on exchangers. There are indeed a number of large exchangers that free the listing for certain projects but this requires the cohesiveness of the project community but this rarely happens

Well, exchanges play a part in the development of a project and its coin towards the achievement of its full potentials. This is why project developers must be very careful with the exchange they list their coins. Exchanges with low trading volumes can kill the potentials of the coin because high volume exchanges also exposes the coin to investors.

i think that there is a clear guideline how to be listed in the exhanges with a good reputation
if a coin can not be listed in any exchange, it probably means that the problem is in the project legalisation
or something like that...
its 2019.. projects are listed in coinbase a month after launch for god sakes
just dont invest in a project that has no credability and no exchanges support them
you have so many other projects to invest in

It won't be right to blame the ICOs and the IEOs for that. The projects may be operating on a shoe-string budget and they may be unable to afford the huge listing fees. Please remember that the exchange listing fee has gone up astronomically over the past two years. The largest exchanges (such as Huobi and Binance) change millions of USD for a single listing (and that too after very stringent screening). Even mid level exchanges such as Coindeal are charging somewhere around $100,000 now.

The idea of ICO's and IEO's are really good it is just it was misused and was take for granted by those who are scammers, there were legit projects too who failed to raised money with their preferred and run away, they turned out scam too. So, it was because of the people who has a bad intention in doing it.

I'm the developer of Bitflate and its community. We're currently on Unnamed Exchange. I think exchange doesn't matter much. If we're on a bad exchange, we can always switch and find a different one. I opt out of paying lots of fee for exchange listing. Your community matters. If your community leaders want to dump, you're screwed. More expensive exchange means it'll cost you more.

Exchange is a tool. It doesn't control your project. What matters is your passion in the project and building good relationship with your community.

Join Bitflate community. https://discord.gg/utnEyp8  :)

Usually if your project performs really well that it attracts so much attention there'll always be an exchange willingly to take the project into their website. although it may not comes from a popular exchanges. It's somewhat crazy to think that a lsting cost so much fortune it's basically like the project gathering money and big portion of it goes to exchange for the sole reason of listing and that's the only way because if they don't they will take the blame from the investors.

all they think about is making money in a short time, not infrequently when ico triumphs, many do ico with the aim of raising funds, after that they run away and make new projects again, until finally ico died abandoned by investors. but for projects that are done correctly, they can survive until now, even in a bad situation, because investor confidence is maintained in the project

Listing project in top exchanges is very difficult, and may very costly, so i think it will be very difficult for new project to go with top exchanges.

If the project has their success in their public sale and they are confident enough that they can compete in the community and has a good future then they should list in good exchange and prevent being in a shit platform. But still, there are many of them choosing to die with those exchanges!

projects that get big results sometimes if they make a mistake when registering their tokens on an unknown exchange can make the price of tokens destroyed on the market. but if registering a new token on a exchange that has a good volume takes time, sometimes they can't do it quickly and force a list on the exchange that doesn't have good volume

You should understand that very often such exchanges are the main investors of projects. But there is still the price question. Listing on a good stock exchange is very expensive and very often the project fails to raise such a large amount. Therefore, the organizers of the project want to quickly get listed on absolutely any exchange in order for investors not to abandon the project and continue to invest in it. But very often it turns out that they are wrong. Business is a risk-accept it.

The success and failure of a project is determined by numerous factors which come to play together or act singly. One of them is the poor performance from the team. Scammers or inexperienced team presents poor performance and this eventually leads the project to its failure. Also, bad exchanges with low volumes can lead to the collapse of the project because a coin needs to be traded in order to survive on the market.

I think this depends a lot on the investor because if the project has a clear development strategy but doesn't attract new entrants, the project will soon be forgotten. This market has had a lot of big changes this year and investors tend to invest in new projects more bbecause those are projects that bring them good profits. Maybe risky but if you know the right project, you will easily make money without having to worry much.

Maybe for those who register their tokens or coins on a low exchange due to initial cooperation. Every new project, of course they are looking for partners. If the partners are from an unpopular exchange, do they have to leave the base partner. Because not all popular exchanges are willing to support or cooperate with new projects.

Listing in a reputable exchange will get a huge chunk of the financial funds of the project. So if the project has very lil amount of money, they can't afford to be listed in a good exchange, that's when they resort to substandard exchanges, which is not favourable in the long term.But if the team is serious, they can always opt to bring their coin to a better one later on. If in case, their project will not be a success in delivering their mission, then, more than likely they will slowly die in that substandard exchange.

Many projects listed in popular exchanges also die. Dead or no, not based on where they listed the coins, but the seriousness of the team in running the project. In this case the team's target must be clear in carrying out the project. Not just register to exchange, then they leave.

Market conditions could change the plans even roadmap. Some token listed shit exchange for rest of the marketcap reach, where some listed for lack of funds. Thorecoin listed in low exchange but condition is good. Guessing Buzzshow has interest to build website then will listed exchange.

Popular and dead doesn't seem right in one sentence though, however I do agree that some of succesful project that could gather massive funding could endup dying slowly even after listed in the popular exchange, no need to mention but there are plenty. Most of them that have that fate will just losing volume day by day due to the inability of developers to advertise or atleast holding its popularity for long. They are too stingy to advertise and once they did advertise it's such a mess and innefective one or maybe people find out that the project is useless.

So true, sometimes projects do not raise huge sums to enable them list on top exchanges with very high liquidity. I don't blame it on projects which didn't raise much entirely, the centralized exchanges demanding extremely high listing fees should be blamed. If most crypto enthusiasts can patronize decentralized exchanges (even though almost all still lack required features), daily trading volume for some DEX will compete with centralized exchanges and it will be favorable for good projects which didn't raise huge sums during token sale.

Developers in a hurry to listing their tokens to shit exchange may be solely to attract investors so that project status  is already listed on the exchange, so that many investors are interested in investing their money in that project. Also besides that it is possible to attract many bounty hunters for join and promote their projects, so their projects develop and quickly become widely known by various people groups.
 

Being listed on an exchange, gives some sense of security for the investors. It also depends on the nature of the coin, and it is most likely that the project aims for daily trading transactions so, it will be good to see them on the exchange. Of course the downside of this will be the cost but they have to pay the price or else some people will not recognize them. It is kind of sad to think that cryptocurrency is created to remove third party on transactions yet, we depend on platforms like exhanges in this business.

I will not blame it entirely to the exchange, it's the dev team's decision after all. They knew it from te beginning that being listed is expensive and does not guarantee the success of the project. It's a trend to be on the list, a standard for many investors and traders. If they did not get listed the crypto, people might have second thoughts on investing or using the crypto.

After announce for ICO coin listed with shit exchange become the end of crypto and ICO investment way, look not serious want to adopt and make their coin become competitor in coinmarket cap listed with shit exchange, few investor become member in shit coin because not have chance with buy or sell order there. When listing with bigger exchange make some altcoin although not success in ICO have chance to success after listing.

It's still not gonna work if they will force everything, listing in a shit exchange will not gonna help your project build a good reputation.
People will look at the basic information before buying a certain coin, information that are very visible is their trading volume and what exchange they are listed, so if they will see that its in shit exchange, they will not be attractive with the coin.

Actually its better to look for the right timing to list and should be in a good exchange, at this time, there's nothing to worry if it will only result to dump.

90% of projects will do that because without being registered in the exchange they will not be known and will not be interested in people, I have a few examples of projects that have good development if you know that they have been developing projects for a very long time even though they have accumulated a lot of investor funds but until now This they have not registered at the exchange, because they have their own choice. so you can assess projects that are quality and which are not quality

Project developers are indeed needs to make a good stand regarding to their project, if they are really concern for the future they need to make sure
that they will enlist the coin inside reputable exchange instead of pushing it with shit exchange which would only lessen investors interest. The only investors that will be glad are those early birds who can completely dumped their coins together with the bonuses and move away after.

The market should be controlled by someone or something which prevent the fake tokens and fake exchanges.

In this case, who ultimately benefits? Investors invest in projects not just to start listing on exchanges after an ICO.The thing is that the market has become too speculative and everyone wants to,, fast,, earn a lot of money.But if you include the brain, investors a priori should not expect to return on their investments, at least 1-2 years.

This is actually one of the biggest mistakes that some projects developers always do just because they don't have good advisers and are not ready to listen to their community. Listing a project in a top exchange will go a far way in making a project to be successful.

I think it all depends on demand and also supply. the community is also very influential for this kind of thing. a project without development is impossible to run for long.

All I think is that, this was just an ordinary undergoing cycle of projects in cryptocurrency. It starts with a 'shit' exchange and then if the project is really good and have some funds, it will later on will try bigger exchange. That's what I think they're trying to do. But, whenever the devs can't support going to a bigger exchange, then that's their limitation, I think their project is not that trendy.

When many ICO or IEO listed whit shit exchange become end of investment on crypto, many ICO and IEO don't care about for listing with shit exchange, after raised sold out their coins why not think for listing with good exchange market have many investor, why use shit exchange market for listing their ICO and IEO coins, why not care about how much money use by investor.

A shit exchange can demonstrate the quality of the whole project. Many investors are afraid of looking back on the growth of projects which are in decline, so hurry to change everything. I don't think so.

shit exchange is very unworthy exchange. It frustrates investors and does not believe in the project anymore. Communication is important, but being in a hurry is not good.

I hope that last line from the OP strikes a chord in the minds of these shady devs. The do not care about the value of their tokens once they have collected funds from the token sale. It is a very daft move to list on a shitty exchange but these devs don't give a damn to what investors think once they have their funds

fake trading volumes, bots, no liquidity ... these are signs of Shit exchanges. Recently, the top CMC has always shown the top position of P2B, while this is a shit exchange, I am very upset about this! A good project should receive attention and investment from the developer. However, with the listing on the shit exchange, it will be a dead project.

There are two reasons that can be understood in terms of marketing

The developer wants the price development stage to start from the regular market first and does a regular unlock to prevent sequential dumps, if they delay listing too long, it will also become a wave of large landfills, very ironic because indeed coins eventually die in the first choice exchange .

and the second is due to the inability of the developer to pass requirements on a more competent exchange, or do not have experience with it and are only concerned with instant profit.

If the developers collaborates with shit exchange and start to create artificial movements and attract investors then trapped it up then surely the fate of the project will be doomed. There's a lots of projects who became extinct after listed to shit exchange. It's a obligation of the team to add their work to a good project since most of the time the project got a good chance of surviving.

Sometimes startup projects list on low rated exchanges because of inadequate funds or very high listing fees placed by Top reputable exchanges. Well most times team members get greedy and won't want to channel funds to list on good exchanges, which is always bad for the project. Some coins are dead on arrival when they list on crappie exchanges.  Looking at your write up, I really wonder why there is no remedy yet for fake trading volumes on CMC, like you mentioned P2PB2B being top rank occasionally on CMC which is false.

Nothing in the world harms the project more than listing on bad exchanges. Team members cannot even realise that with only one fault, they can ruin the whole project, especially such garbage exchanges as Latoken or Probit.

Really hard to anderstand why projects list their coin to this exchanges. Maybe because they have a free listing? But better use decentralised exchanges in this case.

Yes this case happens a lot, many ICO projects are good but in the end it fails, because it chose a bad exchange for the token. I think developers should pay attention to this, they should be able to choose the best exchanges for their tokens.

Yeah i saw few good projects end with low quality exchange. I think there must be a reason why the project choosed that exchange. Maybe they dont have big fund to get better exchange or something else. Bad decision ruin the project it self.

because the team is tempted with a small fee for the token listing fee. even though it doesn't guarantee the token will end well or not. at least the team must pay attention to exhange with high trading volume in order to get a good market capitalization there. although the fee is rather high, at least it will pay off if the trading volume is high.

Aside from reducing the cost of listing, the project owners want more liquidity on their native coin/token that's is why they are trying to be listed in different exchanges as much as possible though the outcome is not good because if they were listed on bad exchange then it gets some bad impression with the project as well and this is someting that the project owners have to look for to minimize price dumping while getting more liquidity.

Agree. Most new projects often don't have a lot of money to list at the exchange and this makes it easy to become a shitcoin if liquidity is bad. I never invest in those coins because the opportunity to seek profit is very low and if unlucky I will lose a lot of money when investing. Currently only choose the coins available in this market and consider buying more if cheap.

However, you also need to spend a lot of time researching pennies and ensuring liquidity at any time.

Investors interest are not going to engaged with shit exchange making the project to turned to nothing after being added. It's a need for every team to make a good habits to try bringing the project inside reputable exchange where volumes of traders can see how the new project works and let them
to research and study to figure out if there's a good potentials and usages in the future.

they must follow the trend, if at present the market is more pleased with IEO, then they must abandon their intention to ICO.

They may only be able to choose a small exchange, but make sure the internal team does not sell their economic rights first to prevent a collapse in prices, in the end investors will also think that their project is serious and not panic when bitcoin falls, Strategies must be made to maintain value, this is entirely also not because of the exchange factor.

Most of the developers have a good plan for the development of their product but it gets ruined after they listed their coin in shit exchange. It called shit exchange because it has fake market capitalization and volume. Most of the coin listed in shit exchanges are now dead or delisted because of no demand in the market.

ouch that so sad and bad to hear  .

this should be a wake up call for those who wanted to make a good coin or a good project  .

 if they want it to be succesful then they should start saving a good budget to list that coin onto a good exchange because people do also pick a good exchange before they decide to buy a coin  .

I find it difficult to dismiss the project easily. because the project is good or not difficult to analyze. Sometimes what we think is good, in the end is far from the expectations we want. therefore we need sufficient analysis before making a decision.

Projects team members definitely knows very well regarding potential exchanges. But they can't reach it there are many limitation such as they can't able to meet big exchanges demand. For those shit exchanges a huge number of promising projects going worst. And many real products based platform go to list shit exchanges but they are capable to list real exchanges.             

One reason makes sense, but if we talk about exchanges, it should be that when developers want to list tokens, they can choose not to register the tokens they have.
This year there are a lot of new projects running IEO, I think investors already know what they are choosing while making decisions in investing.

If you do not make good decisions, good discussions, then the projects that you intend to invest or exchange will be easy to end. If you feel that you cannot afford it, investing should not be very risky.

We have many times because in a hurry to exchange, convert, and trade without careful thought leads to unintended great consequences. especially buried projects that may have been successful. IAM sorry.

Many new developers don't really understand the importance of exchange listing, some of them don't even know that fake volume exist in crypto soace, once an exchange looks good enough to them they just proceed and list of the exchange

yes thats right big exchanges are asking high amount before a project will be listed on thier exchange thats the reason why some good projects cant avail for.the listing so they  list thier coin to unknown exchange or lets say shit exchanges were the journey of thier project ends.

You are right on this subject. There are many instances of potential crypto projects with innovative ideas and strong team listing their coins on shit exchanges due to various reasons including to save listing charges. What such projects get at the end is only loss just because of being listed on bad exchanges. This is thoughtful thread.

You should continue to develop the project to be able to attract appropriate investors, so it is not good to exchange a switch in a hurry. Shit exchanges will kill the projects.

The problem is contributed by a lot of factors and as you have rightly underlined, high cost of listing in top exchanges are a huge problem. Why should a developer pay as high as $200k to $500k to list on these exchanges, its way way over priced in my opinion and in most cases, the project developers are left with two options; a) list with such exorbitant fee and recover it by dumping team tokens on the community (just like matic) or b) list in an average or shit exchange and ride your luck

Basically many things that made most of these projects to list on shits-exchanges are raised funds during the ICO and IEO. Have be here some years now and saw many potential projects listed on the most shitest exchange just because they never reached their stipulated softcap and hardcap. These are just some reasons why they choose to list because of investors. Many projects have come and deceived many potential investors, so, none is ready to invest again.

They have a good project but they have wasted it and put their coin in the useless exchange. The effect of this is that the value of the coin that they have put in the exchange become lower and lower as time goes by. Instead of having a bright future it became useless every single day.

But these exchanges are listing coins that are not avaiable on reputable exchanges like Binance, so that is the reason why people trade here, not because they get better conditions.

Or,,, go back to the good old days where developers did not care about listing and markets and simply just developed. When you continue to build and show people what you have, maybe people just decide on their own to trade it? Maybe exchanges decide on their own, hey we like this coin and we will list it, is that not how things used to work?

You might not know but visit any of the telegram groups of projects whose token is not listed anywhere, most of the comments on a normal day with be about when exchange..? The investors of ico used to put allot of pressure to list the coin on an exchange.

Shit coins suffer huge losses. And there's shit exchange. I wasn't too impressed. You need to invest very carefully. The coin project could be solid. However, if you invest in the wrong Exchange, you may lose your money.

many projects realize that their budgets can only come in at a small exchange, many developers are too rash in picking up revenue momentum. In many cases, they do not maintain volume and only wait for the movement of their coins in the market. if it is not as expected, it is they who ultimately become the most coin seller at the end of the story, that is the quality that is happening right now.

Solid project doesn't mean anything if there's no marketplace for it to grow and if the exchange is really bad it could get affected and considered as bad project aswell. There are many solid project that share the same fate and then there's some useless project but got listed in popular exchange because it's IEO and got quite amount of trading volume.
exactly but that also lower their standart to the point most of project listed there just become dumping ground and people won't trust any project in that exchange anymore.

Yes, Shit exchange is an end to a good project. How on Earth will a reputable and good quality project list on a shit exchange... A shit exchange shows the quality of project . Most of these ICO sweet mouth investors to invest and promise them to list on a good numbers of exchange only to get fund and dissapoint investors with shit exchanges. Every good and quality project must be able to list on a good numbers of exchange , with this investors will all smile and earn more profits

Aside from shitcoins, I am hoping that shit exchanges will also vanished as I think that we don't really need them in our life too,they are just a garbage in the cryptocurrency world, so we should avoid them too as much as possible so they will stop their operation. Remember that, exchange are in demand now, so scammers are buying some exchange too as their platform for them to raised fund.

The shit exchange in the market is one thing that can make many people feel uncomfortable but besides the bad things we often talk about these exchanges, it still has some benefits and helps the market go up. Shit exchanges are constantly appearing like this, at least it will bring competitive pressure, good exchanges will need to complete their service well, the market will be better, and keep in mind that shitcoin usually lists at these exchanges, without these exchanges, our unlisted tokens will be trash forever.

Considering the fact that there are some exchanges without any documents running wild out there and for example they are accepting whatever shitcoin as long as it's profitable for them will make it hard for these exchanges to vanish. People will always come up with shit exchange in order to make a dime or grand out of it. The only way to stop them from existing is to make people realise to not use their services at all.

People keep trying to point their fingers at every single entity or person that they can except the ones that are completely guilty of the lack of quality projects in the market and that is the developers, it is true that there are bad exchanges out there, but even those exchanges are offering a good service by allowing a coin to be traded on their platform without any cost, because we know that the biggest exchanges charge a huge fee in order to get that privilege, but make no mistake the problem of this market are bad projects.

You gave a valid reason for developers deciding to list on shit exchange, but that does not change the fact that listing on a shit exchange cause more harm than good. The project should be able to budget rightly and develop the project well enough to attract good investors.

I agree that many project fail because of bad exchange, they want to list on exchange as soon as possible and not really care about what exchange. Lots of exchange had turn to scam and push some projects to fail even they not release their working products. This is bad and make lots of investors lose their money, time. I believe crypto project need to avoid listing on small, low number of user to avoid this happen again.

True, we have seen a lot that projects listed in the dirt exchange will not last long and there will not even be any further developments, and that must always be considered by every project team.

I don't think good projects choose some shitty exchanges, if a project chooses a shit exchanges well don't expect too much from it and I think some projects that choose good exchanges might scam the investors.

You are absolutely right. A bad decision can destroy a project! Last year I saw many good projects got listed on P2PB2B exchange and those projects are dead now! Blockium was a very good project, but listing on a shit exchange ruined it! So, you are very right!

You think its all about shiit exchange ?
I think the performance of the team project is very visible here how they are very confident to be listed on a very bad exchange if they are experienced I am sure they will not be serious to be registered there

Definitely we all know team devotion, credibility and experience matters a lot. OP is just trying to say that when a team lists on an exchange with low reputation and poor trading volume, even if the project had great plans from onset the exchange will cripple those plans in the sense that price drop is usually is must and when investors lose a lot, they tend to have zero confidence in the project and sell off.

I think not only are they serious or not they register at a good exchange, but many exchange places that have a high reputation and high trading volume have very many requirements and require high fees so many new platforms have difficulty registering their tokens at a good exchange .

it does not mean that it will not happen, but it will certainly happen that everything needs process and support from the people.

But sometimes I see some good projects but they are listed on an exchange that has a bad reputation, maybe because the list fees are expensive so they are forced to register there. But if they have enough funds I think they will not want to register a bad exchanges.

No exchange that are perfect, so as long as the exchange are running and they have a volume, that means there are still people trusting them.
Though we can't deny that in big exchange there's a potential for the coin to pump due to big volume, but it's not a guarantee especially in bear season.

I am sure, once the bull season arrive, a lot of projects will be listed in binance for example.

there is always manipulation if it keeps happening they certainly won't last long. some projects in binance have even kicked them out for whatever reason, even though in my opinion the project is pretty good. don't have to wait for the bull season, a few days ago binance has listing a new coin. if indeed the coins are good and enter binance standards, of course the coins will be directly listed there.

I think it is clear, the problem of the lack of project funds available for listing in large markets, and pressure from investors to schedule listings in accordance with the roadmap that is always awaited by their communities. I think at this point the developers are very aware of their abilities and feel pressured, if they don't take fast steps then their coins will first circulate in forkdelta at a very chaotic price.

I think you just need to look at the results and the developer decision, it proves that the projects you mention are one of the bad projects, regardless of whether you complain about their decision, it's clear that these projects just deserve to be listed on bad exchanges, and projects that you have underestimated, even junk on the market, then it was listed on reputable exchanges. Where are the good projects? The exchange name it listed is the best proof, can't blame decisions, it's simply not good enough

Exchange is a thing that dev should list coin to, a project without exchange wouldnt grow.
I dont wonder if many people ask like that

But, it doesnt mean dev lists coin in shit exchange. dev still needs to list in good exchange
in this case we talk about successfull project, so money wont be matter.

IMO, dev wont list in good exchange bcz of shit dev. they just care about money not about the project itself.

I agree, there are some good projects that are listed on exchanges that obviously milking the project developers of fees which is very bad and the impact could be bad since the developers may lack of funds for the updates of the project that will surely affect the investors and the volume.

But some of the projects are listed on exchanges that is really good even thou the listing fee is overprice.

in fact, many projects are good that the listing in the shit exchange because the price for a listing is very cheap and made investors become quieter because the project they follow already enrolled in exchange they usually feel happy even project a nice listings in 2 exchange project team usually they are more concerned future to the project development.

Indeed many new exchanges have a easy listing requirements compared to the hardness of the well-known exchanges that can ask up to 10 BTC. For the new project, they will please the majority of investors after sharing this news on the social media. The market is a bit higher than the the previous market rate but the halving expectations can change this. Future market performance doesn't depend on the reputation of listed exchange, IMHO.

Too much Exchange. But the volumes need to examine how much of them. Exchange's values change by volume. Bitcoin has dominated the market. The Exchange's trying to extract their tokens. After the first IEO, some exchanges suffered enormous loss of prestige.

Situation are different as project idea and types. This bear market can't help all projects to funds rise. After listed exchange some project start fund rise. I bought a coin which project can manage any exchange after more than 2 year. That project still in developing but people already forget about this coin.

You are really right, but according to the logic of things, this situation should develop only with respect to professional developers who work on their project and do everything for the good prospects that only a rating exchange can give.  But in most cases, developers are only worried about their profits, and therefore constantly throw their coins out for bad exchanges.  In addition, it is worth paying attention that it has long been a practice that any new coins fall in price by at least 100% immediately after listing.  I believe that the developers themselves threw so many coins on the market to sell as much as possible and make money on it.

that's where the actual reputation of the project can be seen, if they mature, it won't take too long to calm investors and focus on the next plan, but what happens is that the developer is really panicking with the situation / indeed has planned to take an important part in selling most their own tokens on the exchange, indirectly clearly led to a bad stigma between developers and exchanges and ended with a negative reputation that continues to occur repeatedly.

You are right, but my opinion is good project listed low volume exchange because of some time  problem about team fund-raising issue, so they have no way to listed good exchange.       

Expensive listing fees are always a problem for projects that do not have enough funds, but that cannot be used as a reason to list
their tokens/coins on a bad exchanges
There are other ways can be taken by dev to be listed in a good exchange, one of which is through an Voting contest.
And if dev can manage its community well, I think this method (Voting) will be very effective.

Now this fraudulent project has harmed many people, be it other project developers, investors, even bounty hunters affected, we can see now how one projects that was very serious team to develop their project, but in the end the project could not run because of the lack of investors to fund the project, and the reason investors are afraid that if the project is also a scam / fraud, I think in the future it will be very difficult for us to get a project that will truly have potential and success in their token sale. :'(

All good projects are careful of exchange they list on, everyone knows nothing good can come of a shit exchange so it won't be surprising if a seemingly good project lists on a shit exchange. This means its not worthy of being called a good project. Sometimes it's more than just listing on an exchange.

This is what I think as well, it is very easy to think that a good project is going to decide to be listed in a bad exchange and that is what it caused its ruin but the truth is that the project was not as good as you thought it was, good projects that actually have original ideas and that have a group of dedicated and motivated developers are going to eventually be listed in good exchanges without having to pay anything for the privilege, because the customers of those exchanges are going to ask the exchange to list that coin.

Project who has not intention of firther development will list them into shit exchanges and dump all their tokens to get more juice from their business plan.Never interested on new projects anymore.

We have already enough projects to survive for new century. ???

The big exchanges are greedy slobs. They only care about making money off project devs. I believe if a project is good and shows interest and potential demand, it won't matter where it lists, it will trade well with great volume on any exchange. CountingHouse (CHT) traded for several months on only etherdelta (or was it forkdelta?) and the price was steadily going up as well

Exactly, there are already thousands of projects in this market we do not need more projects unless they are really good and unless they are original, if anyone is thinking to invest in new projects those are the only two questions that they need to answer, if a project is good and original then you should invest in it and take the risk but if it is not and it is just a copy of another project or a fork then there is no need to invest in that project at all because it is not going to give profits in the future.

Many ICO companies do not know the correct person to choose as the perfect manager, exchange and Pro. If they pick the right person we were seeing the projects on the good exchanges.
Most of the people looking big exchanges and pick the incorrect person to list the tokens instead of going right place in website.

it cannot be denied that most projects are good and have quality products but ultimately end badly, especially for developers who register their projects in bad exchange. Well, there might be a number of reasons developers do that, but if so, surely a good project will not produce sweet fruit.

Yes, you are right my friend. Shit exchanges are killing good projects, this is a fault of the project owner! Many projects listed on a normal exchange first, when the community asked about it, they reply big exchange coming on the board! But day over day, the project goes to end badly! Recently people arising their voice against P2PB2B, Vindax, Latoken exchanges, which is very positive! People should stop using those shot exchange, and if any project goes for shit exchange, we should boycott both of them instantly!

   One wrong move from the team behind a project can ruin everything. In many discussions on this forum about why projects fail one
thing is common, it's the team that made wrong move with choosing managers, their marketing, and after all choosing an exchange.
   I don't think that we can boycott them, we can unite all the people. There are old ones who don't care about that, they tried and
that didn't work, new ones don't believe in anything except how to make fast money.
   

The main reason towards poor market price of a project is not only caused by shit exchanges but also from the project itself. How can a particular project has about 10billion circulating supply and expect a miracle from her investors. The supply is always much, whereby the demand is few. That's the main issue facing altcoin irrespective of the exchange

In my opinion, supply is no longer an issue because if we look at TRX or XRP, their supply is the most but investors are still hunting because of liquidity. Listing in a large exchanger has an psychological effect on investors because in my opinion it is related to liquidity and this will affect investor interest

I agree, the project itself plays an important role in gaining investor confidence. There are many projects that initially listed on large exchangers but because they look prospective and are supported by a large community, large exchangers glance and listings at no cost.

This will be a very difficult decision for them to think of, in the first place, they have their road map where their project should be inclined into, second is the pressure from the people especially the investors and the bounty hunters. Their mindset could be like asking too many times when to be listed to an exchange, as a result, for the project to somehow prove their competency to the market, they rush and decides to list on an exchange even if it has a negative reputation, plus, many people contributes by dumping the price of the coin leading to another worthless token created.

There are many living proofs out there regarding a project that have finished which run optimally and already published to the masses but still failed. The main problem is the fact that they are lacking the users. They failed to market their product and as a result no one recognize their coin and even getting into popular exchange is really hard. A project could only success if the team could gather the attention of the masses.

I am wondering about the Shit exchange that you said.  A good project and a good exchange are two different issues.  Currently the market is very seriously manipulated exchange rates.  Even the volume of transactions they can fake, I think the value of the project can be fake.  I have observed the exchanges in 2018-2019 and I have commented the following: most of the trading volume is fake and the value of the tokens is pushed up and discounted abnormally with a difference of billions.  big price.  Projects that hold an IEO or after an ICO are listed on exchanges are severely discounted, with only a handful of tokens holding value.
Projects successfully hosted by an ICO or IEO (meaning completing a Softcap) are severely discounting.  This is the general status of all projects.  There are many reasons for the discount.  The majority of them follow market trends, in part because of projects that cheat their customers.  Look at the projects that have hosted IEO.  I can't believe hpj has organized projects to raise just $ 1 million back.  This is ridiculous because they will not be able to take the project with that small amount of money because after subtracting the cost of organizing IEO and listing on the trading platform the remaining amount is very small.

I think there is no point in us berating projects that release coins at the low exchange (you say shit exchange). I often see many projects whose aspirations register in large exchanges, eventually fleeing because of their inability to achieve their goals.

First there are no good projects to start with the good project developers are no longer interested in cryptocurrencies since the bitcoin and alts particularly ethereum price dropped enormously last 2018, which is why no good developers and team that invested in smart contracts are no longer interested. Now, IEO has become something bad developers have seen this opportunity to create a shitcoin in return for dumping it.

Of course it can be denied, most projects are either scams or just weak attempts to create something good, and the statistics are on my side when it comes to prove this, most projects fail because they are bad, it is not complicated, at the end it does not matter the exchange they selected those coins are going to disappear anyway no matter what they do, a good coin will survive being listed in a bad exchange and it will eventually be listed in a good one if their developers keep working on it.

Yes, the project that registers their tokens on a low exchange is actually not a problem, it's just that at a low exchange the volume of coins or tokens is very slow to increase, so the team must always care about their tokens to always live trading and not easily die in exchange.

I think it depends on the project team and the developer, even we don't think that a good project ends with a bad exchange and vice versa. because every developer has his own way of promoting his project and bad exchange is not the main reason for ending a good project, there might be other reasons that we don't know about apart from the developer himself.

do you know that some project dev lias with some exchange so as to benefit mutually, even if you are the kind of person that join and follow projects on the telegram you must have come across some so-called exchange platform representative that will alway message project dev in order to get their coin listed freely on the platform just because they want real traders and traffic on their website. I understand the act of not being patient also contributes to the reason why dev get their token listed on a bad exchange but also they are to blame most because if they understand the dangers involved in getting a solid project listed on a shit exchange, they will not try it. Many of them always rush to get listed on Latoken that has been regarded as been tagged the den of scam and dead token  ;D

in many cases it is true that many good projects are listed on a low exchange, do not have high trading volumes and there are not many traders there. I think if a project developer registers on a large exchange like Binance, chances are that their coins will be widely used by traders or investors.

It is the fault of any good project that decides to settle for crapy and shit exchange just to cut a cost, if you know your project is worthy then don't allow cheap exchange to ruin it, do whatever it takes to list on a decent exchange for starters, but some project only just want short term thing, so they don't have a problem settling for less.

MB8 was largest project and early stage listed in good exchange for shutdown exchange now this coin listed shit exchange WhiteBit. Many good projects still listed in shit exchanges, Currently a lot of good projects ico's going on shit exchanges. Yet you say good projects never choose shit exchanges?    

Shitty exchanges ruined whole of the project. Who's don’t agree with me that's your personal opinion.         

I still don't understand how the choice of exchange is going to matter. If a project is good, and the development timelines are being honored, then the prices will be stable irrespective of the exchange. And if the project is really promising, I don't think that too many users will think about selling the tokens as well. The issues occur when the promoters dump their tokens and ignore the timelines. At this point, the users will rush to dump those tokens they hold. But by that time, the prices would have crashed already.

If the project is good and the developer really wants to develop the project he has and wants to make the investors and the people who participate in it not feel disappointed they will certainly not be listed in the shit exchanges which of course it will greatly affect the projects they bring where there will be many people or investors who assume that developers only want to obtain their own benefits and use the money obtained for themselves personally and do not have the desire to develop their projects.

What on earth has an exchange listing got to do with a good project ending?

I do not understand the relation here and It is always the fault of a team that causes that project to end. Exchanges are meant for trading and projects are listed to help investors earn from trading. A project's performance solely depends on the team's development efforts and strategy to sell or market it.

An investor looks into the product performance and not in its exchange performance for a project to get funding after listing.

I think if what they develop can run optimally, then it is impossible for the project to just die. I see many projects there is no clarity of their goals. In fact, their website is only as where ICO was launched until now it has never changed. This means they don't see the fate of their project anymore. Just waiting for the dead domain.

The exchange where a project lists is very integral to the success of the project or its failure.
It amazes me why projects even bother to list their tokens or coins on shit exchanges that have no volume and traffic.
Sometimes its like they just want their projects to fail.
I have seen too many good projects get destroyed because of this strategy. It is not sustainable

Thats just the way it is. No matter how promising and exciting a project is, the team must never make the mistakes of listing on a terrible exchange platforms because it ruins it all totally.

Thats why as an investor, we must always look beyond the exciting purchase bonuses, but look beyond that and into what the team actually wants for the project either Profit or growth

I've seen good projects with great use cases that ends up in a coffin because they listed on bad exchanges, this is nothing new today, developers who aren't very good at doing research always makes this mistakes even when you warned them, some of them don't even know that some exchanges have fake volumes

I agree I don't the good and developing project would rather be listed in a shit exchanges where almost moat of the big traders don't even bother trading there rather than being listed in like of binance, okex or any other known and reputable exchanges. If the team developers are confident enough that the project will be successful then they should be listed in a high profile exchanges to attract more possible investors.

I think pressures from the investors at times is part of the forces that make developers to list on shit exchange.  Some investors don't care at all, they just want to dump what they have bought especially if the bonus is huge let say 40%.  When developers try to make community understand at times on the need to exercise patience in order to get good exchanges, people will think they are running away.  So, investors and hunters sometimes contribute to that.