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Title: Bitcointalk's important historic changes Post by: tranthidung on September 23, 2019, 06:23:57 AM Local rules:
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Contents Forum name It was invented by Jeff Garzik (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=541) who bought the domain. read more (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=971543.msg10607781#msg10607781) Domain name(s)
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Rank system The bitcointalk.org forum created in 2019, on 22th November 2009, by now it has had three significant changes (listed below) in its rank system. For more details, please see: History of bitcointalk.org's rank system (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5170032.0)
Merit system 1. Merit & new rank requirements (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2818350.0) 2. Enhanced newbie restrictions & requirements (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5030366.0) For more, please see:
Trust system 1. Original Trust system (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=211858.0)
3. Trust flags (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5153344.0) (from which we have flags that have separate and different functions than Trust, feedback, to avoid misusing) I highly recommend the guide from LoyceV: LoyceV's Beginners guide to correct use of the Trust system (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5191802.0) 4. 5 trust feedback per user (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5104563.msg49549028#msg49549028) It was applied since 2nd February 2019 OK, new limits: - You can't give more than 5 ratings to a single user. - Your total sent ratings is limited to three times your activity, but at least 1. - The comment length is limited to 600 characters, but each newline counts as 120 characters. Bump changes I am not sure when bump rules first applied, but maybe here: 1. Marketplace rules and guidelines (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3629.msg5541656#msg5541656) (first version of bump rules) 2. Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0) 13. Bumps, "updates" are limited to once per 24 hours.[2] 3. Bumping changes on some boards (bump button & bump score) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5183553.0)21. Old bumps should be deleted. [2] 22. Advertising (this includes mining pools, gambling services, exchanges, shops, etc.) in others threads' is no longer allowed, including, but not limited to, in altcoin announcement threads. [8] This idea to build up a bump button and bump score began here: community generated suggestions to improve the forum (+ eventual voting on them) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4893744.0) An example: a bump button sounds good as a fix for certain very visible problems, but it also codifies a broken system. People would use bots to bump all of their threads constantly, giving "industrial" posters a huge advantage over casual posters. A captcha could maybe help a little, but there are services where you can pay a tiny fee to have captchas solved for you. (Which opens another question: maybe a comparatively tiny fee should be allowed as an alternative to having you solve a captcha.) A better solution would be to replace the concept of traditional bumping with something quite different, with different bumping models for different types of sections. But that requires further thought. If implementing a bump button was free, perhaps it'd be worthwhile to at least do it for now and fix a few minor problems with bumping today. But since it's a clearly-imperfect solution, this isn't even on my miles-long to-do list. And there: Ideas for topic ordering in altcoin announcements? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5082936.0)For more, please see: Bumping - Rules, FAQs (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5183878.0) Copper membership 1. Enhanced newbie restrictions & requirements (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5030366.0) I am not sure about this one, and will check further. 2. grin is now accepted for forum payments (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5098450.0) Later, in November 2021, theymos disabled grin (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5098450.msg58432834#msg58432834) as one of payment methods for Copper Membership. Guide steps to wear Copper membership is here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2385104.msg24384792#msg24384792) Image display
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Altcoin giveaways are not allowed Giveaway threads are not allowed (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=434310.0) 15. No on-forum altcoin giveaways. [6][e] For more, please see: Altcoin give-away rule results in temporary bans. Read before posting. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5186120.0)Retention/ Privacy info
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Reference The active administrators are currently: theymos (me) Gavin Andresen sirius Sirius runs the server. It's surprising how well-documented history can become totally forgotten... Satoshi created the forum on Nov 22, 2009, and was head administrator until almost 2011. Then Sirius was head administrator until 2012, which is when I took over. Cobra also owns the bitcointalk.org domain name. I consider the forum to be basically owned by or at least dedicated to the Bitcoin community, though; I don't call anyone an owner of the forum. That wiki article is kind of terrible... Of course not, do you really need to ask? - I was made a forum admin in 2011, after Satoshi left. (Silk Road also appeared after Satoshi left.) I didn't have any special access to bitcoin.org until around 2013, and in fact I didn't even have any access to the bitcointalk.org DNS until 2013. There was a period where both Sirius and I were active administrators. For convenience, I reckon Jan 1, 2012 as when I became head administrator, though it was actually a gradual transition starting before and ending after that. The story of how I became head admin is actually pretty boring. Moderators were needed, so I was made a global moderator. Then admins were needed, so I was made an admin. Then over time the other admins slowly lost interest and resigned until I was the only one left. I guess most of the people who were around here to see this have more-or-less left the community now. That's a bit sad. It's not entirely clear, but for simplicity I usually say that I became head admin at the beginning of 2011, a little over a year after the forum was created. The forum was originally located at bitcoin.org/smf, then forum.bitcoin.org (hence the redirect), and finally bitcointalk.org. Fun fact: The name "bitcointalk" was invented by Jeff Garzik, and he's the one who bought the domain. Title: Re: Bitcointalk's historical important changes Post by: coupable on November 28, 2019, 03:47:44 PM As usual , you made a great nice job tranthidung ☺️
All my respect Sir . I would like to suggest adding another element to your list which is about "Local Boards" if you can collect data about them. Personally, i don't know what non-English board has been created first or when/how hire mods. As an example , and as far as i can remember, my local board "arabic" has been created in 2017, and i think this info should be displayed in your list if you can provide further details. Same thing with other boards. It would also be good if you can find data about first to latest created boards and sub_boards. This should also belong to the forum great changes. Title: Re: Bitcointalk's historical important changes Post by: Halab on November 28, 2019, 06:21:59 PM i don't know what non-English board has been created first Funny, I asked myself the same question a few days ago. For that you can look at the ids of the local section. For example : Russian section: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=10.0 (id: 10) French section; https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=13.0 (id: 13) Arabic section: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=241.0 (id: 241) It will give you an idea. Title: Re: Bitcointalk's historical important changes Post by: DdmrDdmr on November 28, 2019, 06:33:04 PM <...> I actually went on a (mini)quest this past summer to find a thread that contained the original petition for the Spanish local board (if there was such a petition). I found it, at the time, on Meta: Please create a Local/Castellano (Spanish) forum (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=8816.0).Side note: While at it, I found this gem: Who's the Spanish jerk draining the Faucet? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=704.msg7575#msg7575) Title: Re: Bitcointalk's historical important changes Post by: Bightening on November 28, 2019, 10:15:22 PM I think this should count as a new addition to historical change in Badge. (Although it is yet to be fully implemented)
5 art-contest-winner badges will be assigned to the winners of this voting. Restrictions on signature in some board
Important to note that, Bitcointalk.org wasn’t a day’s job, most of the changes made resulted from ‘in-use’ challenges and from complaints from forum users. Most had to go through the polls, and some others were solutions suggested by the forum community, showing it’s a community decision. So if you’re new (or old) to the forum, you should appreciate the effort of older users and Theymos (who single handedly did the coding and Ann, except that done by Satoshi). Finally, the new software development would depend on lessons learnt here; community effort. Title: Re: Bitcointalk's historical important changes Post by: tranthidung on November 29, 2019, 03:22:19 AM Thanks @Bightening for pointing out my incorrect link; @coupable, @Halab and @DdmrDdmr for creative ideas.
I listened to all your opinion, made another decent thread, so here you go, guys: History of local boards (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5205448.0) Title: Re: Bitcointalk's historical important changes Post by: coupable on November 29, 2019, 09:51:53 AM I listened to all your opinion, made another decent thread, so here you go, guys: History of local boards (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5205448.0) That was amazingly fast !! But how you grab all this data in a very short time !! Organise it in a wonderful way !! You don't even seems to make a lot of edits after publish !! Anyway, this really amazes me bro.Now, it just lacks that you add the link to local boards history here to the main list so to have a full organised list. Title: Re: Bitcointalk's historical important changes Post by: hosseinimr93 on November 29, 2019, 10:37:55 AM i don't know what non-English board has been created first Funny, I asked myself the same question a few days ago. For that you can look at the ids of the local section. For example : Russian section: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=10.0 (id: 10) French section; https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=13.0 (id: 13) Arabic section: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=241.0 (id: 241) It will give you an idea. Seems that cannot determine the order of creation of different local boards using their Ids. According to History of local boards (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5205448) which was posted by tranthidung (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1292764), German board has been created on 09/10/2010 and Russian board has been created on 29/6/2011 while their Ids are 16 and 10 respectively. Title: Re: Bitcointalk's historical important changes Post by: rosezionjohn on November 29, 2019, 05:55:50 PM Seems that cannot determine the order of creation of different local boards using their Ids. According to History of local boards (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5205448) which was posted by tranthidung (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1292764), German board has been created on 09/10/2010 and Russian board has been created on 29/6/2011 while their Ids are 16 and 10 respectively. Russian board was created first according to Veleor The actual date of birthday of the Russian local is July 28, 2010 It's interesting that so many Russians have shown interest in the project. Thinking about the Russian culture and society, I'm not completely surprised why. I'll make a new board, let's see how many non-English-speaking users we'll get. The first topic in the Russian local. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=606.msg6247#msg6247) Title: Re: Bitcointalk's historical important changes Post by: tranthidung on May 17, 2020, 09:57:03 AM I updated OP with a new section for the forum's domain name. The latest change comes from theymos. Domain name is the most important thing so despite of the section's very late creation day, I moved it to the second position. It deserves that position.
How to do private giveaways (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5226333.0) This one will probably be implemented (from positive feedback the community members have discussed so far in that thread). I noted it here and will updated OP when it will be officically implemented. The last reply of theymos in that thread gives us hope we will soon see its release. Title: Re: Bitcointalk's historical important changes Post by: logfiles on May 17, 2020, 07:26:22 PM Have you guys noticesd that the "last edited" note with the time stamp is now visible while browsing on computer browsers too?
Thou no announcement was made, this new change has been around for about a couple of weeks now. https://talkimg.com/images/2023/07/19/n2bw5.png In the past, this feature was only visible on mobile devices where hovering the pointer on the timestamp of the post to see the time when the post was edited is not possible. Title: Re: Bitcointalk's historical important changes Post by: tranthidung on May 18, 2020, 05:55:32 AM In the past, this feature was only visible on mobile devices where hovering the pointer on the timestamp of the post to see the time when the post was edited is not possible. On computer:I don't see the change you mentioned. Maybe what you meant is after hovering mouse on the creation day of post/ thread, the latest edited day will be displayed. If it is what you actually meant, it comes from the past and is not a newest change. On mobile devices: The latest edited day is automatically displayed. No need for hovering mouse to see it. Honestly, I don't know when it was firstly applied but it was an old minor feature. Title: Re: Bitcointalk's historical important changes Post by: Saint-loup on May 18, 2020, 01:31:40 PM Have you guys noticesd that the "last edited" note with the time stamp is now visible while browsing on computer browsers too? You are really seeing that on a computer?Thou no announcement was made, this new change has been around for about a couple of weeks now. https://i.imgur.com/9nJGLbD.png In the past, this feature was only visible on mobile devices where hovering the pointer on the timestamp of the post to see the time when the post was edited is not possible. Could you tell us what browser you are using and what you have done to get that? Title: Re: Bitcointalk's historical important changes Post by: dkbit98 on May 18, 2020, 01:36:29 PM You are really seeing that on a computer? Could you tell us what browser you are using and what you have done to get that? For me this works only if I hover over the date for specific post. I tried with Firefox and Chrome based browsers and I am getting exactly the same result. Title: Re: Bitcointalk's historical important changes Post by: CarnagexD on September 15, 2020, 08:11:01 PM It's been years since the merit system was introduced to the forum, I should have posted more so I could be a hero/legendary member before it got hard to rank up haha anyways it does not matter to me at all. Probably the change that got me bother sometimes is when I open links and I forgot to hit CTRL, it goes to different page and not tab ::)
Changes should be adapted, that's how we progress ! Title: Re: Bitcointalk's historical important changes Post by: tranthidung on March 25, 2021, 02:32:34 AM Bump after many months!
I only knew about the restriction on a maximum of trust feedback per one user. Updated OP too. 4. 5 trust feedback per user (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5104563.msg49549028#msg49549028) It was applied since 2nd February 2019 OK, new limits: - You can't give more than 5 ratings to a single user. - Your total sent ratings is limited to three times your activity, but at least 1. - The comment length is limited to 600 characters, but each newline counts as 120 characters. Title: Re: Bitcointalk's important historic changes Post by: tranthidung on July 20, 2021, 04:18:57 PM LoyceV can whitelist users as I see the announcement Remove Proxyban (evil fees) - get whitelisted for free (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5350260.0)
There are guides and rules in that topic, you must read it. Not all applicants will be whitelisted, obviously. It breaks the main purpose of Whitelisting if all applicants can easily be approved. One more thing, you can send your Whitelist request one time. If you get whitelisted when you are newbie, later when you rank up to Full member, you will not be able to get another whitelisting. Title: Re: Bitcointalk's important historic changes Post by: tranthidung on September 19, 2021, 08:53:03 AM I write an explanation on self-moderated option (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5186820.0#post_selfmoderated) for newbies
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Title: Re: Bitcointalk's important historic changes Post by: Pmalek on September 20, 2021, 09:19:53 AM You can not convert a non-self-moderated topic to a self-moderated topic. A regular user can't, but theymos can and he is the only one that can do it. But only if there is a valid reason for it. This was discussed yesterday (I don't feel like searching for the thread) and someone shared a quote from theymos where he mentioned that he has the ability to make such conversions. However, only posts made after the conversion can be self-moderated by the OP. Posts written before aren't affected and can't be deleted. Title: Re: Bitcointalk's important historic changes Post by: tranthidung on September 20, 2021, 09:38:54 AM You can not convert a non-self-moderated topic to a self-moderated topic. A regular user can't, but theymos can and he is the only one that can do it. But only if there is a valid reason for it. This was discussed yesterday (I don't feel like searching for the thread) and someone shared a quote from theymos where he mentioned that he has the ability to make such conversions. However, only posts made after the conversion can be self-moderated by the OP. Posts written before aren't affected and can't be deleted. Do you give me a quote? I can not find it. By the way, I found that not only Meta & Archival, but a few other boards that don't allow self-moderated topics. I am not sure why theymos did not mention Archival. Self-moderated topics? Can you say what boards this applies too? This is going to be bad if it is on certain boards, cause some people can edit threads to benefit them, I really hope it is just the off-topic board. The excluded sections are Meta (except for this topic), Scam Accusations, Important Announcements, and Auctions. Tagged scammers can't use this feature. You don't have to participate in self-moderated topics if you're worried about manipulation by the OP. Title: Re: Bitcointalk's important historic changes Post by: Pmalek on September 20, 2021, 11:51:58 AM Do you give me a quote? I can not find it. It took me a while, but I managed to find it. I remembered that I merited the person who shared the quote, which made it much easier. Upgrade00 quoted theymos here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5360707.msg57970653#msg57970653). The original post by theymos dates back to 2015. It's this one: I can manually make threads self-moderated (only I can do this), but I only do this if the thread is extremely long/entrenched and the OP is trustworthy, since you are not allowed to delete any posts made before the topic became self-moderated. Title: Re: Bitcointalk's important historic changes Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on September 20, 2021, 11:55:24 AM I am not sure why theymos did not mention Archival. Wouldn't that be irrelevant? Archival is basically the trashcan where dead threads go to die, so it's not as if members can create threads in it--and they certainly wouldn't be worried about whether those threads were self-moderated or not. Someone correct me if I'm wrong there.Title: Re: Bitcointalk's important historic changes Post by: tranthidung on September 20, 2021, 01:40:11 PM The original post by theymos dates back to 2015. It's this one: Thank you. I will add this info into OP.I can manually make threads self-moderated (only I can do this), but I only do this if the thread is extremely long/entrenched and the OP is trustworthy, since you are not allowed to delete any posts made before the topic became self-moderated. Wouldn't that be irrelevant? Archival is basically the trashcan where dead threads go to die, so it's not as if members can create threads in it--and they certainly wouldn't be worried about whether those threads were self-moderated or not. Someone correct me if I'm wrong there. I don't know but it seems your opinion is correct.I tried to search the use case of Archival board in Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0) but failed (not sure why). Anyway, the short description is
Title: Re: Bitcointalk's important historic changes Post by: Pmalek on September 20, 2021, 03:49:57 PM I tried to search the use case of Archival board in Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0) but failed (not sure why). Anyway, the short description is The Archival is used as a testing ground by some members. I have seen campaign managers and ANN thread creators post threads there to check how they look before creating the official thread in another section of the forum. I don't know if the use cases for Archival changed throughout the years, but here is what theymos had to say about it in one of his posts:
Old threads don't need to be moved to Archival. Just lock them. Archival is meant to be used by moderators in only a few rare situations. (Though I don't mind if you move your obsolete topics there if you want to for some reason.) It was never intended to be a graveyard, but theymos doesn't mind that it became one. Maybe someone else has some more information about the "rare situations" it was supposed to be used for. Title: Re: Bitcointalk's important historic changes Post by: tranthidung on July 22, 2022, 11:53:16 AM Bump after a long time!
Today, I updated this topic, with two more big things:
Title: Re: Bitcointalk's important historic changes Post by: Smartvirus on July 22, 2022, 06:13:55 PM You've done quite a good job on this thread as to some extent, it sums up the most developments on the forum that one might wonder as to how it came to be and how come others tends to have some privileges than others.
I can say most of the threads to have futured is good enough for me but I feel there is one more that you could add if i may: Remove Proxyban (evil fees) - email to get whitelisted for free (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5350260.0) For a time I think this has been probably an issue for new users from joining up on the forum. You know, in an instance you think you've found this new forum that you could learn, contribute and possibly benefit but your hit with a proxyban (Evil fee). You know it takes a truly determined mind to go through from there and for others, they fade off. Especially when they've got no one to motivate them or help them push through with the fee. Even given the fact that, most of them might not have the know how on a way to work a bitcoin payment, never owns a sat and shits like that. The whitelisting procedure very much comes through for these users, it's a new inception and I feel makes it to the historic changes of the forum if you ask me. Title: Re: Bitcointalk's important historic changes Post by: KingsDen on July 22, 2022, 09:05:01 PM Bump after a long time! Tbh, this is a great thread. If not that you decided to bump this thread, I wouldn't have known that such a nice thread exists. Many good posts are indeed buried in btt, especially the ones whose authors are no longer available in the forum to bump.I have read the history of the newbie jail, it wasn't as strict and harming I thought it was. Any newbie whose intention wasn't to spam could easily escape the jail. Title: Re: Bitcointalk's important historic changes Post by: tranthidung on July 23, 2022, 01:55:58 AM Remove Proxyban (evil fees) - email to get whitelisted for free (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5350260.0) I wrote about it last year, there (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5186820.msg57505809#msg57505809). Maybe I forgot to add it into OP. Thank you for your reminder.Your post has some typos and I guess you typed it on phone? Tbh, this is a great thread. If not that you decided to bump this thread, I wouldn't have known that such a nice thread exists Thank you!I put efforts when I am doing something with relevant and meaningful objectives before I started. Sometimes, my works (topics) are great, sometimes they are not. For good topics that have long-lasting value, I will pump them after a while some time. Title: Re: Bitcointalk's important historic changes Post by: so98nn on July 23, 2022, 03:37:13 AM This is informative thread and it has all the answers that one need to get started with this forum. Appreciate all your efforts to create a thread like this. I can feel how you might have searched through whole forum to get the proper links and gather it together.
I’m so impressed with “bitcoin button” tag which was launched back in 2012. It made me think why they did not added more symbols into the repository. Reading through different threads is like traveling back in time and see how they were making conversations with each other to develop the forum as we see it today..Great job! Title: Re: Bitcointalk's important historic changes Post by: tranthidung on July 23, 2022, 03:58:36 AM I’m so impressed with “bitcoin button” tag which was launched back in 2012. It made me think why they did not added more symbols into the repository. Thanks for your request, here you go with resources for weekend
Title: Re: Bitcointalk's important historic changes Post by: Smartvirus on July 23, 2022, 06:17:38 AM Remove Proxyban (evil fees) - email to get whitelisted for free (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5350260.0) I wrote about it last year, there (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5186820.msg57505809#msg57505809). Maybe I forgot to add it into OP. Thank you for your reminder.Your post has some typos and I guess you typed it on phone? I really hope this thread gets to stay up and gets regular historic updates such as those that answers some major questions by providing links to its resource on the forum. I was thinking it should have been on Meta but I realised its more useful here, as beginners who never coexisted with most of these changes are the ones that needs to be more aware of how they came to be, the opportunities available to them and restrictions too. A periodic bump of this thread would be in order, as its clearly very useful to those having a difficulty in using the forum search button and might find the contents of this thread to come handy. Title: Re: Bitcointalk's important historic changes Post by: tranthidung on July 23, 2022, 06:24:14 AM I really hope this thread gets to stay up and gets regular historic updates such as those that answers some major questions by providing links to its resource on the forum. I try myself to keep it up-to-date, but sometimes I know about update but I am not available at that moment. Later, I forgot to update OP.If you or anyone knows of something is missing here, please ping me for update. Much appreciated! This way, you will also contribute as asset of a forum. :D Quote I was thinking it should have been on Meta but I realised its more useful hereas beginners who never coexisted with most of these changes are the ones that needs to be more aware of how they came to be, the opportunities available to them and restrictions too. It is in Meta, isn't it?Quote A periodic bump of this thread would be in order, as its clearly very useful to those having a difficulty in using the forum search button and might find the contents of this thread to come handy. I do bump it regularly, but not too often. Perhaps, periodic bump should be 3 months, 6 months as I don't want to flood Meta board with my bump. In the past, people complained about it and I think it makes sense.Title: Re: Bitcointalk's important historic changes Post by: Smartvirus on July 23, 2022, 06:42:21 AM I try myself to keep it up-to-date, but sometimes I know about update but I am not available at that moment. Later, I forgot to update OP. I sure will, I guess that goes for everyone else too.If you or anyone knows of something is missing here, please ping me for update. Much appreciated! This way, you will also contribute as asset of a forum. :D I was thinking it should have been on Meta but I realised its more useful hereas beginners who never coexisted with most of these changes are the ones that needs to be more aware of how they came to be, the opportunities available to them and restrictions too. It is in Meta, isn't it?Perhaps that's my thought on what board I feel suits more better as I think, most of these informations are more lacking with the newbies although, I can admit that there are a lot myself that I didn't know off and I've come to appreciate this thread for providing answers. In the end, where ever it is, those seeking it have got chances to see it as threads on meta aren't easily flushed. Nice one still. Title: Re: Bitcointalk's important historic changes Post by: Agbe on July 23, 2022, 11:14:31 AM I came to the Forum in the year 2021 December. Even as I registered in the forum as that time I was not active for about 2 months. And it is recently that I found out the origin of bitcointalk from my reading threads.
As for the Forum domain name, Satoshi said, the former sourceforge.net was charged to bitcointalk.org and some of the threads from the sourceforge website were transferred to the new site (bitcointalk.org). Now I like to know the reason of changing the former to the later. I am also asking this question because a student in my class asked this question and I have not answered the question. For the Forum administration: Satoshi created the site in 2008 and lunched it in 2009, then Theymos, Gavin Andersen, and Sirus promoted the site to the maximum level till date. Sirius took over from Satoshi Nakamoto. From the above analogy, I came to the conclusion that the site (bitcoin) was created by a group of people. And as for the ranking system. November 2009 to January 2018 no activity was used to rank up and as of June 2018 the same year activity system was introduced, and later merit was also introduced. So when the activity and merit were not used in the Forum, what was used to rank up users as of then? Title: Re: Bitcointalk's important historic changes Post by: tranthidung on July 23, 2022, 11:29:15 AM For the Forum administration: Satoshi created the site in 2008 and lunched it in 2009, then Theymos, Gavin Andersen, and Sirus promoted the site to the maximum level till date. Sirius took over from Satoshi Nakamoto. From the above analogy, I came to the conclusion that the site (bitcoin) was created by a group of people. I can not understand your analogy. satoshi created this forum and can give admin role to other members who get trusted by satoshi.About Bitcoin history, it was discussed in a group namely Cypherpunks but we can not conclude Bitcoin was created by a single person, a group of people, government or any entity.
Quote So when the activity and merit were not used in the Forum, what was used to rank up users as of then? Here you go.
Title: Re: Bitcointalk's important historic changes Post by: tranthidung on September 17, 2022, 05:15:41 AM Bump!
with OP identifier SMF Patch (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5412983.0) since September 12 2022 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5412983.msg60923041#msg60923041) Title: Re: Bitcointalk's important historic changes Post by: Stalker22 on November 06, 2022, 11:20:29 AM This is very informative thread and deserves a small bump to stay on the front page. I always say, it is better to revive old threads than to create new ones on the same topic.
Title: Re: Bitcointalk's important historic changes Post by: tranthidung on November 06, 2022, 11:30:39 AM This is very informative thread and deserves a small bump to stay on the front page. I much appreciate your support. It's kinda recognition for my effort put into this topic ;)Quote I always say, it is better to revive old threads than to create new ones on the same topic. Actually, people can create new topics about same issues but ONLY IF
Honestly, mostly we witness the first IF but we don't witness the second IF. Similarly in scientific research, if a researcher can not make a new research to answer and solve an issue better than other researchers with published researches, don't try to make a new one. In addition, to know that there are available topics about one issue, let's use [Guide] Searching effectively (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5276341.0) Title: Re: Bitcointalk's important historic changes Post by: Welsh on November 07, 2022, 11:25:54 AM Actually, people can create new topics about same issues but ONLY IF To add to that inactive remark, it's almost always better to create a new thread, unless your post directly contributes to the discussion of that older inactive thread, and quite substantially too. Otherwise, yeah new thread every time, which is usually the case of why we have duplicate threads, which is mostly okay, and not a big deal at all.
Also, technically they don't always have to think it's better, but rather they might not want to participate in a certain thread for x reasons. For example, if it's self moderated etc. That's just one of the reasons, but there's a few legitimate reasons why they might want to create an additional thread, without participating in the current one, and it wouldn't be much of a issue. The above reason being the most popular. Title: Re: Bitcointalk's important historic changes Post by: tranthidung on November 22, 2023, 01:24:25 PM Today I occasionally find this interesting post. It is from a donator member and I am not sure all information is correct. I share it here as a note and maybe theymos or Cryus can share some more information about forum history.
As in OP, I highlighted that I still don't know when Cyrus became a forum admin. No. There was also Sirius which helped Satoshi immensely with the Bitcoin project in 2009. My knowledge on the history is limited because I was new at the time, but I believe they both trusted theymos to take care of it in 2010. Sirius gave control of the domains to Cobra. theymos and Cyrus run the forum now. That link appears to be a bit behind the times as BadBear isn't an administrator anymore, he doesn't appear to be even a moderator. He last posted in late 2016 and his account was last active on here in spring 2017. Satoshi left the project over 7 years ago and there's no point in identifying him anymore. Sirius, who was responsible for porting the code to Linux and getting a lot of early interest (even more than Satoshi) eventually decided to leave the project in the hands of those who were interested in taking it further. The forum grew a lot from 2010 to 2013 and even though the signal to noise ratio hasn't always been the best, theymos and Cyrus have done a great job given the limitations of the software. theymos also runs the subreddit which has grown quite well over the years. Title: Re: Bitcointalk's important historic changes Post by: tranthidung on January 15, 2024, 09:47:42 AM Added some latest changes:
Title: Re: Bitcointalk's important historic changes Post by: tranthidung on April 10, 2024, 01:13:35 PM Add information on historic changes of Forum Security Bounty and its rewards from initially in troy of ounce, converted to bitcoin; then in $ converted to Bitcoin since 2021.
Links and details updated in OP. Security Bounty
Title: Re: Bitcointalk's important historic changes Post by: aoluain on April 11, 2024, 10:53:01 AM Thats a great amount of work done tranthidung, interesting reading what I have done so far.
There is a lot there which I wasnt aware of and I guess many more were not aware of. IMO the two biggest changes or the changes which impacted the community the most for better, worse or from the amount of discussion surrounding them were: 1.] The Merit System - big changes to the ranking system which still has people divided and still generates a lot of discussion. There is generally a Love/Hate relationship with Merit. 2.] Mixer Ban - this was a massive announcement recently which stirred up a lot of discussion on the removal of Mixer service adverts and the restriction of posting links to services etc. Title: Re: Bitcointalk's important historic changes Post by: tranthidung on April 17, 2024, 03:49:03 PM 1.] The Merit System - big changes to the ranking system which still has people divided Merit system changed the forum a lot, by its design and purpose, to help the forum better in quality. There are some changes in merit system since its kick-off too.and still generates a lot of discussion. There is generally a Love/Hate relationship with Merit. Quote 2.] Mixer Ban - this was a massive announcement recently which stirred up a lot of discussion There is still grey area in the ban but if theymos sees it, he will ban anything that he considers as risk for the forum and himself because of existing or potential regulation in the USA. It's hard to say it is right or wrong but with his position, I understand why he decided to do that even in many years, theymos supports freedom.on the removal of Mixer service adverts and the restriction of posting links to services etc. Title: Re: Bitcointalk's important historic changes Post by: Sandra_hakeem on April 17, 2024, 09:14:39 PM Added some latest changes: As fast as all these were implemented, several months ago, it's already beginning to seem like we've gone through several years without them...maybe for the fact that i have read enough of the stories over and over again and [nothing else has been made to revoke the situation]
It's hard to say it is right or wrong but with his position, I understand why he decided to do that even in many years, theymos supports freedom. Theymos doesn't have any potential to override the forum privately - out of the government's spectacle.. So if we all still wanna wake up and find our way back in here, ehhh, he needs to work by the rules he's been given.. |
