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Nutildah has edited the post where he had put his account for sale for 0.3 BCT

How shady is that???????????

Come on loyceV where is the original unedited post??

MORE SCUMBAG BEHAVIOR.


Anyone ELSE (because loyce V will likely be too busy to help) have that thread archived??

Put that thread back to its ORIGINAL FORM you sneaky scum bag.

START READING HERE READ THE REST OF THAT THREAD - before nutildah (UPDATES IT LOL)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=789658.msg8951438#msg8951438

just to see how this is determined and willing scam facilitating for a price, if you are that certain selling an account is helping scammers and is evil and then still decide to sell your own account for a price, then you are certainly not trustworthy.

Nutildah changed his mind on July 23, 2017, 08:25:34 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1622642.msg20333227#msg20333227 it is not edited ever.

For clarity sake it was edited August 29th 2019. Nothing wrong with that as it is common knowledge at this point. For optics sake it would have been good to quote in the original then add the fun explanation.

It's the OP in that topic they are referring to.

I started scraping unedited posts a year ago, you're referring to a years old post.

Oh, BTW, it's cute how you suddenly use my correct name when you need something.

You have no evidence to prove that. Anyone could post that after a sale.

The OP was edited very recently and this is shady.

LOL to the common knowledge excuse. You do NOT edit your past histories especially when they are PROOF of financially motivated wrong doing.
Scammers go ahead and delete your posts they used as evidence of scamming, you will receive NO criticism - there is nothing wrong with it.
Steamtyme says 0.001% of the board knows about it on meta, that is fine then just amend it as you please now LOL


The original TITLE and body should be there.

WHY EDIT THE ORIGINAL PROOF OF YOUR FINANCIALLY MOTIVATED WRONG DOING IF YOU ARE NOT TRYING TO ALTER PEOPLES PERCEPTION OF HOW IT REALLY WENT DOWN.

The thread should be restored to its original form. The original sales pitch and the 0.3 btc asking price should NOT BE HIDDEN from public review. Especially since this is now being highlighted as evidence of financially motivated wrong doing.

This makes it LOOK WORSE, it is very clear he is more than ashamed.

We will be taking this up with his sponsor and the main board. This is not the behavior of a DT1 and merit source.


@loyceV - well since you gave us 1 merit then we decided to give you another chance at proving you can be civil and neutral. We treat people as they have treated us and our friends as we have PROVEN the last time you tried to say we just randomly started being negative in your direction. You have always been aggressive or very negative to us /our friends first. If you prefer it that way that is up to you. You can not deny this, so either be neutral and analyse our posts objectively or keep screaming trolling at us and we will respond in an unfriendly manner to you.

We ask for no friends, we simply want our posts analysed with objectivity not being derailed and sniped at. You have no past the point of no return with us since you have not actually scammed nor have you trust abused to our knowledge. If you keep derailing and screaming trolling at undeniable observable instances then you will not only show yourself up, you will be treated as hostile by us.

Do you note we are polite with EVERY member that has not attacked us or joined in and supported our attackers and abusers? Have another look and see if we speak the truth.

The main bone of contention is you seem to believe merit scores have value. They have none. That seems your main issue with our posts.

If you have scraped the board even a couple of months ago you should have the unedited post should you not?

Who else does backups of this board. Except theymos obviously. Usually we archive most things but since that had been used as evidence so many times we assumed even nutildah would not be crazy enough to try to alter or edit it. It would just look far too shady.

You said it so many times that probably every "guest" who has never registered account here knows this, not to mention that it was archived few times and someone linked it on nutildahz trust page. What is the point of creating another thread for something you mentioned at least 500000 times in your posts?

The post before last edit could be found in the webarchive
http://web.archive.org/web/20190704162438/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1622642.0

brilliant excuse moronbozo are you like the croatian version of johnny cochran?

so moronbozo says

It is acceptable for DT1 members to edit the proof that confirms they are guilty of financially motivated wrong doing and it does NOT look shady. It is only strange that a person may mention this move to edit the original form of evidence after many years.

Is that what you are saying moronbozo?

If someone presents observable evidence of past financially motivated wrong doing of DT1 then it is acceptable for them to alter that evidence and you should not even be allowed to mention it.

Watch them all club together to say

1. it is perfectly acceptable
2. you should not be mentioning it because ..... err you mentioned something different earlier.

what a bunch of scum bags.

If any non DT members was busted for financially motivated wrong doing and then after being busted altered the evidence they would be screaming how shady that was.

They referenced it??  so now when you click the link you get a different heading and different text to what they referenced hey?? that is useful.

All scammers should do this, just change the text that DT members reference as evidence of  what DT members class as " financially dangerous" which can range from whistle blowing to deleting unsubstantiated allegations from their own self moderated threads,  etc.

Moronbozo for you everyone. Prior DT1 and scam hunter.  

@raymun

thanks for that, would have given you more merits if we had many ourselves to give. Sadly merits are with held from posts that present the truth generally where we post.

here it is...

http://web.archive.org/web/20190704162438/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1622642.0
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Name:   nutildah
Posts:   2152
Activity:   560
Position:   Hero Member
Date Registered:   April 19, 2014, 11:50:27 AM
Trust:   0: -0 / +0

My posts were frequently contentious and sometimes downright argumentative, but that's because I'm a real person who was genuinely interested in bitcoin and this forum, and I wasn't just trying to build up an account to sell it or do sig campaigns.

Its a completely anonymous account, never been linked to my real identity. I stopped posting for the most part about 6 months ago.

I would like 0.3 BTC for it.

You can get back to me here or via PM. Thanks!
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WOW that was deleted fast by the scum bag mods and some fucking piece of shit reporter, no double posting LOL  okay we will just add it all here then.

funny though we notice a NEW GEM here. Nutildah or seems to have a had a big change of heart on spamming sig campaigns right?? that pajeet is all over ANY sig campaign that will have him even disputing flags that are made against his scampaigns  LOL

Really a bitcoin enthusiast NOT HERE SELL MY ACCOUNT OR TO DO SIG CAMPAIGNS.... OH REALLY ?????????  So then I just tried to sell it and can't stop spamming sig scampaigns  hahaha

my advice is always the same OP slow down read digest, then post again.
https://archive.is/BBMFH

This is on Nutildahs trust page. So they provided you with the answer you were looking for, you just had to look.

It is good that is had been archived. The entire point of archiving scammers posts as evidence is PRECISELY because you know scammers will edit them once busted LOL

This is scammer style 101.

It does NOT alter the fact that nutildah edited the thread title and body text that he knows is prime evidence of his financially motivated wrong doing.

This is shady as fuck. I wonder what other edits he has been making of late??

How about all scammers just start changing their scam posts to whatever they want after they get busted??  we will say that is totally fine right?

This is a DT1 member. A MOST TRUSTED member of the entire board. Haha

If you are all going to make up excuses for this. All the better for us. We will simply be presenting those excuses over and over and over.

It's okay to edit your scam posts after you are busted because.

1. some people already know in meta
2. one person has archived it (lucky right)
3. It has been mentioned enough ffs

keep them coming guys....these are going to be gems at some point.

Changing years old posts once people demonstrate they are evidence of financially motivated wrong doing is TOTALLY ACCEPTABLE PRACTICE BY DT1 members. You heard it here first.

This is nothing special.
DT1 members often like to keep their threads up to date
for example https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=86854.msg954234#msg954234
has been edited many many times.

You spammed random words, then you said I said them and then you asked me am I saying this.

I am pretty sure they linked archived thread, I would have posted it but you said that "you won't click my offsite links because I am untrustworthy" so why would I waste my time posting something you won't click?

Looks like your post. Are you me?

I reported it, multiposting is not allowed.


EDIT:
How many persons have to archive it to become archived enough for you?

Yep another great excuse here everyone

Up to date ... deletes scamming attempt - decided not to scam now thanks for reading.

I changed it 3 years later after I was busted for it because I like to keep things up to date.

This is EVIDENCE of willful willingness to facilitate scams for money. Not just any post.

This post is a classic also I wonder when this gets edited - nutildah in 2014 saying it is evil and facilitates scams if you offer your account for sale. ... then tries to sell his account for 0.3btc

Imagine being SO SURE account selling is going to result in people being scammed and how you are going to make your own threads and report everyone who does it.... BUT WAIT for 0.3 BTC you will help ensure people get scammed and turn evil too hahaha

new scammer can always alter that thread to say no longer for sale was just kidding? or if it does not sell I will just change it myself to only kidding I changed my mind on the OP  either way just updating right? updating is allowed.








CANT WAIT FOR NUTILDAH TO UPDATE THESE POSTS ABOVE...

ERR UPDATE TO WHAT?? IT IS OKAY TO SELL ACCOUNTS AND YOU ARE NOT EVIL AND FACILITATING SCAMS NOW??

haha updating, the cure for any attempted scam.



This is the reason people archive scammers posts they reference because they may want to keep them up to date by putting.. no longer wanted to scam people really just kidding before. I changed this now because people kept using my post as evidence I was trying to scam people. However now you all know I never really wanted to scam people it's all cool right. Please stop using this as evidence against me because it won't work as well now.

Just keeping you up to date on things. Many regards nutildahs twin pajeet.


@moron bozo

please do not derail with the " spamming of words" theory you are working on. Spamming words, does seem like a promising angle to weaponize. I would dedicate lots more time to this if I were you. Where is the spamming of words thread? This will be a lot of fun. Just don't try to go off topic and derail this thread with that theory now please or we will report it and if not deleted we will bring that to meta for examination.

the rest of your post is confusing as usual. Please keep on topic.

Thanks for reporting it you good little croatian dog. Keep yapping, and reporting like a pathetic servile snitch of course, but keep it on topic. We enjoy every bump even from the lowest form of pathetic dreg here.

Keep coming up with brilliant new excuses. You have now your very first untrustworthy example we will shove in your turd world gob every time we feel like it. Well aside from you directly supporting scammers on to dt1 previously. But then that is just every dt1 member nearly so that is not so outstanding now.

YOU say it is fine for scammers/scam facilitators to edit the evidence of thier scams after they have been busted and that is not shady behavior at all. I mean they leave them there for years on end BUT then when someone really starts to bring it to light years later they can edit them if they want, and that is totally acceptable and does not look shady. Is that what you are saying moronbozo? Yes or NO.

I am happy for you to say YES so please don't hold back.

You will never guess why I merited that post  :)

If you could point me to part which you find confusing, I will try to explain it better, but please don't spam random nonsense.

At least post correct information, which you can find in archived link which you asked for. I suppose that you have read it.

Reporting your post emotionally satisfied me.

You did it again. You said that I said something then you asked me am I saying it.

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So lets see about this "EDITING HIS POST HISTORY TO HIDE HIS ACCOUNT SELLING PAST??".

What do we know from edited nutildah's thread? They wanted to sell account and then they said they decided to keep account.
What did we know from not edited nutildah's thread? They wanted to sell account and then they said they decided to keep account.

Where is "hiding past" part?

Let's skip past the rest of your off topic turd world blathering and ask you to say YES or NO. Scammers that get busted can go and edit their scam post after they find themselves busted years later and it does not look shady at all?

YES OR NO

Just answer what are you afraid of?

then we can try to hammer out your other non points.

HIS REASONING IS STATED CLEARLY



(Occasionally after exposing a fraud or a charlatan for what they are they leave me a negative feedback with a link to this thread, which is likely why you are here. Congratulations!)

when i bust others for " apparent" scams then they respond with a link to my willingness to facilitate scams for 0.3btc  - So now I notice they are linking to this evidence I will adjust it so it looks better for me and make a weird excuse for needing to change it. As if they are WRONG to be linking to it and it NEEDS to be changed for that reason. Knowing people have started linking to it for his trust abuse in many cases he decides to adapt his original post. People linking to it and mentioning the other details that WERE there before now could have been making those up.

LOL whatever the reason you can not be allowed to edit the very evidence that is there demonstrating your observable financially motivated wrong doing without it looking very shady.

Anyway first answer yes or no and stop being scared of us. YES OR NO?? it is totally acceptable for them to edit it or not.  The entire context and perception of the incident is being changed and excuses for adaption given. DISGUSTING.

You are setting a precedent for scammers to be able to edit the evidence of their scam posts. They can leave out details and change the entire perception of the ORIGINAL INCIDENT and many details the honest member should be entitled to read.

Your points seem valid to you. That is because you are incapable of seeing past the end of your nose, hence why you are called moron bozo and it is befitting. We will get into that after you answer yes or no. Also what does and does not emotionally sate you is rather worrying lol. You poor filthy wretch.

Why would I answer question after you said that I said something?

Here we witness fear to answer yes or no.

I feel it is your in ability to comprehend English. Let us clairfy. The statement is from our POV which we believe you are trying to express. Hence the question on the end to verify.

Stop being afraid moron bozo

Yes or NO?  now that you understand.

Do you think you will always be a troll? Yes or NO? Don't be afraid to answer. Anyway:
I already expressed everything I wanted to express here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5190369.msg52663732#msg52663732, it is not my fault that you are unable to read.

!!!FEAR!!!

You see how answering yes or no is so difficult for moron bozo? we strike terror into this poor servile wretch. Dare not answer it seems. He knows we will slap him around with that forever if he says YES. If he says no then he is damning his pal nutildah to being more shady than he already is.  No way out in the yes or no game for moron bozo.

colluding scum.

Poor guy, how embarrassing to fear in public  answering yes or no :(

Trying to derail now :(

Back to the spamming of words attack vector you devious devil... you are almost there now. It will not be long now before you have irrefutable evidence of spamming words.
Meanwhile supporting scammers and fearing to answer yes or no to a simple question.

Look how easy it is

We will indulge your off topic derailing for one answer only.

NO we are not trolls, therefore we could not remain something we were not in the first place.

Now back on topic please. Make a trolling thread about us if you like. Not here though.  Derailing often also shows fear of the central points being made.

Fear!!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't scrape the entire board, only new posts (from Recent Posts (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=recent)).

Ah okay, understood.

He tried to sell his account on a year when account selling wasn't even a thing and he did posted it on his account, nutildah, which only says that he ain't an account seller. Like how other DT members views it they only tag account seller that are just account farmers who basically are just here selling off other farmed accounts to make a living. Based on the archived you gave and how nutildah is still posting today it only means the account wasn't sold at all so basically a sale didn't even happen, there was only an attempt to do so.

Nutildah edited his old posts and he knows that it was already archived.
According to you, he is a scammer and shouldn't be trusted, right?
Now, what do you say about someone who dropped his main account and created a new one just because it is hard to edit 13657 posts?
Who should we believe?
CH you are a great person. Just forget about merits and trust and act normally.
You are fighting for the wrong cause.

@ theb

Your point is invalid. Please read the thread. This is about a determined willingness to facilitate scamming for a price. NOT JUST SELLING AN ACCOUNT. Please read the entire thread. This all boils down to financially motivated wrongdoing .

THIS IS UNDENIABLE.

@ khaled0111

knows it is archived? so what? people are not essentially to know this or even bother checking his trust list.  Why change a post nearly 4 years after the event that is linked to many times as evidence of financially motivated wrong doing??  to try to put a better spin on it.

What was the price of bitcoin when he was willing to facilitate scamming and EVIL members for 0.3 BTC dust?  does not take much does it? is that even 20 pieces of silver?? scam buster to willing scam facilitator for 0.3btc or perhaps less. No takers though apparently lol

Let us stick to the topic and to what we can prove is UNDENIABLE.

You point regarding a member finding it hard to edit 13657 posts is irrelevant and has no meaning at all.  Financially motivated wrong doing will certainly not be found there.

Fighting for the wrong cause?

So you say a person like nutildah who screams that account selling is evil and facilitates scamming and is so sure about it he is going to start his own thread and trace them down and make sure people don't deal with them........BUT THEN decides for 0.3btc he will turn evil and facilitate scams himself is NOT a financially high risk member?

One that then alters the very incriminating post and thread title years later only after it is becoming a huge issue for him now that he wants to punish people for lesser crimes?  say oh i need to change this because people who I punish are linking to this thread so I don't like that and am going to change it ??

You say fighting scum bags like this and fighting for a transparent set of rules that ensures fair treatment of all members is the wrong fight??  the wrong cause you say??

@suchmoron

We will take from your merit to that above post that you are supporting scammers and members that undeniably will willingly facilitate scaming for a price  editing their posts have been linked to as evidence of financially motivated wrong doing.

Is that why you are giving merit suchmoon? you think it is not shady for scammers/scam facilitators to alter their incriminating posts that are linked to as evidence of financially motivated wrong doing?
That's interesting.

I wonder if you are including such willing scam facilitators on your DT inclusions?  suchscamsupporter?

Dare not get involved in the debate since it will come down the same yes or no end game as moronbozo, so just hides away sniping with merits. What a pathetic fool.

Not true at all. See Bill Gator. Also, what evidence do you have it was not sold? The seller's word? If the current users in control of the default trust didn't have double standards, they would have no standards at all. They regularly abuse their authority to protect their own positions and that of their supporters while using any excuse to bury their critics while the few good members on it turn a blind eye in order to protect their own status.

Should though we really class these other "good members" as " good choices" for DT since they will turn a blind eye and allow this to continue for their own selfish gain?

I'm not so sure?

The core group of scammers and scammer supporters for pay are so entrenched now in DT that even if a "good member" would speak up on DT they would likely be removed from DT pretty swiftly. Even the designer and warden here will not really dare debate the folly of the entire thing since it is pretty much undeniably a total failure.

The problem is most people simply have zero back bone and weak minds. How could one ever possibly think to decentralize power among such dregs without removing nearly every shred of possible subjectivity from the system. Instead he makes it 100% subjective lol

Where is anonymint of some kind member with more than a one day course in game theory to demonstrate clearly the entire thing is bogus and folly? I mean it is fine point out the results so far a pretty much 100% fail, but he seems to be hanging on for some kind of self healing from the system that is NEVER going to arrive at this rate. Plus he just keeps hamstringing it more with more and more merit based weightings.

Anyway nutildah realizing people are referencing his post as clear evidence of willing scam facilitating (when taken in the context of his prior rantings of how he is sure selling an account is facilitating scammers and is evil)  has now edited it and his thread title to better explain he has changed his mind and it is annoying that people are even turning up to the view the details of the evidence THAT ARE NOW DELETED. LOL

have fun in real life, spend little time in the forum, this will do you great. looking at post history of all DT members, looking for things to attack some DT member will not do you any good, will just stress you. don't you agree with the system? so just stay away from this forum or just ignore anything that some DT member that you think is wrong to do. that's very simple

You will find that we were ATTACKED FIRST . This is undeniable.

I'm not sure highlighting observable instances of clear financial wrong doing of those in positions of trust should be called ATTACKING. I mean would you claim the police detective ATTACKED those criminals that were recorded on your CC TV by repeatedly presenting the evidence until they were prosecuted? I mean that seems a strange term to use really? You could rather say presenting observable instances of wrong doing to protect other members.

When people attack you or your property over and over, some will just accept and walk away, perhaps even move house. Others should try to make a stand so that those attacking know there will be a price to pay. Even better if you can bring about some changes that will prevent them and any others repeating such attacks.

If nobody makes a stand, things just tend to get worse.

Somethings have improved, others have sadly gone the other way. Still the board is excellent enough in other sections to still make it worth while fighting for improvements and preventing the destruction of free speech here.

When Nutidah farts, cryptohunter be like

https://i.imgur.com/wW3Aa18.gif

This is a perfect example of abandoning your principles to appease those in control. You are only willing to criticize approved popular targets and never those who are in "the club". If this was a post I had made trying to sell my account, you would be in your clown suit and enthusiastically preparing the bonfire for my reputation, every once and a while looking back to see if your masters are still pleased. I am especially disappointed in you because you know better and still choose to kneel.

I think you might be better off selling your account.

I think you might be better of selling your ass.

Is it just me that has abandoned his principals?  Or is just my principals that concern you so much?  Or is it that my principals are of such concern to you because mine was the deciding vote that cast you out of DT1 most recently?  What is it about me that is bothering you so much lately?  Really Tecshare, can't I make a lighthearted joke about about the way some one continues to beat a horse's fossil?

Would you prefer if I chastise Nutildah for trying to sell his account?  Again?  Okay; Hey Nutildah, you shouldn't have tried to sell your account.  Oh, what's that you say?  You learned that lesson nearly two years before I joined this forum?  Okay, then.  Carry on.

And you are wrong about my character yet again.  I'm a very forgiving person.  If you had made a similar mistake years ago, and quickly adjusted your position, not only would you have my forgiveness, you'd also have my support if others attacked you for it.  

However, considering the way you build your trust list you still wouldn't be included in mine.  There're connections, and also disconnections.

Anyway, we can take this discussion to another thread, or PM if you'd rather.  I feel like this is going off-topic.

I don't think people should be punished for simply trading accounts, even Nutilduhh. You have to first have principles to abandon them, and a lot of the DT doesn't qualify. You can opine about what you would do in hypotheticals all day, in reality you reserve criticism of those who have the ability to inhibit your own status within this system in favor of low hanging fruit you know it is safe to pick because they approve it. The way I pick my trust list is no different than anyone else regardless of the targeted fabrications you fell for and participated in. Of course any scrutiny is reserved for people like myself who must explain every action on their trust list, while any time one of the chosen are questioned, it is just "their right" to choose who they want and that's the end of it.

Look it is clearly apparent from your posts that you are pretty low functioning. However even some servile dreg of your level can NOT fail to understand this is NOT a simple case of account selling is it you moronic fuck.

Most people may view account selling as merely handing their account to someone that wants to be a hero or legend just for the prestige or whatever?

AS WE KEEP REPEATING'

Nutildah WAS CERTAIN that selling your account resulted in people getting scammed and that it was EVIL (HAVE ANOTHER FUCKING READ MORON)

If you are THEN willing to sell your account FULLY CERTAIN that you are facilitating scammers and are acting in an EVIL manner for such a small amount  THEN YOU ARE FINANCIALLY HIGH RISK.
How can it be otherwise??

SO STRONGLY did he feel about protecting the board from these scam facilitators and evil doers HE WAS GOING TO START HIS OWN THREAD HUNTING THEM DOWN SO THAT NOBODY WOULD DEAL WITH THEM AND MAKE THEM PARIAHS...

Got it you dire posting dreg. Your posts are generally net negative garbage. Stick to flipping your burgers.

Stick to posting silly little gifs and kissing ass for merits,since that is pretty much all you're capable of.

Nobody gives one fuck about your inclusions and exclusions - scammer supporters and low functioning shit posters opinions are as worthless as foxpoops (who is also a scammer supporter anyway). Notice how when challenged he admits his opinions of whom should be on DT are not even based on reasoning Hahahaha .. Oh yeah wasn't this about excluding the same member ??? yes it was.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5184281.msg52479030#msg52479030

He will pop up here any moment since he loves our posts

What sort of scamming wretches and their low functioning feltching dregs has theymos allowed this board be handed over to.

In light of this knowledge ANYONE including these types of people on DT should have red trust and be blacklisted from DT.

https://i.imgur.com/oiAqlgN.png

It is either your statement is wrong or LLec was able to see the future , I would pretty much like to believe the latter is wrong.

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Now to me personally I would justify the actions of some users based on other facts, contribution to the forum is one thing I would take very seriously , not only regarding trust or flags, even when it comes to breaking the forum rules, if we take philipma1957 for an example, a great member who gave so much to the community and to bitcoin in general, say someone dug into his old posts and found a plagiarized post , or a post of him selling his account a few years back , would it be wise to treat him the same way a shit-poster newbie is to be treated? Sure not.

The same thing applies to everyone else, if the member in question did contribute to the forum before and after the "account sale" post , I can see how those DT members who actively tag account sellers would justify not tagging a certain user, but again this has to be widely applied in a fair manner and not selectively based on who we like and who we don't.

Unfortunately, the trust system is not being used by bots, so it makes sense that you should expect some wrong doings from some DT members, as long as it is kept at "minimal" and you don't see it happen every day, then nothing much to worry about IMO.

Mikey that was a reasonable post but let me try and make it a bit easier to follow- this is not just about account selling is it?

Imagine someone who wants to facilitate scamming for a price and just keep that in mind.... I see the connection between the two instances  1/ certainty that selling and account will result in facilitate scamming and is evil)  2/ then selling the account is obviously the stumbling block.

CLEAR INTENTION TO FACILITATE SCAMMING FOR A PRICE KEEP THAT IN MIND.



Wrong doings by some DT members need to be kept in check by other DT members  THAT IS THE POINT. Not to collude together and say well we let it slide for them but not for others.

It's really quite amazing how reasonable you can sound at times.  I wish you would make points this valid in every post you make, and not bury them in walls of rubbish and petty attacks.

I don't think anyone is claiming that Nutildah wasn't wrong when he attempted to sell his account.  But put it all into context.  Around 2016 was right around the time when the forum community started seeing account selling as a negative thing for the health of forum and the bitcoin community.  Nutildah said flat out in this original post that he had not been spending so much time on the forum, so it's reasonable to conclude that he may not have known about the change in attitude.  That naivete is mostly confirmed by the fact that he posted right from his account which he attempted to sell.  The first reply to his offer suggesting that he should have created a sock puppet didn't even occur to him, probably because he had no ill intent.  Once informed about his potential for getting the account tagged red, he was wise enough to put two and two together.

I'm speaking in generalities because I don't know exactly what went on in Nutildah's head, but I can put myself in his situation.  It's seems fairly clear to me that Nutildah isn't proud of having made that mistake, as naive as it may have been.  He's probably embarrassed about it.  In fact, the reason he edit the post in August is probably due to his embarrassment.  Again, generalities because I don't know for sure.  He hasn't commented so I can't be certain.

And like Mikey said, one needs to consider the behavior of the individual since the mistake was made.  Can you just try to see it from his perspective?  Can you bring yourself to forgive him?  If you can at least try maybe your forum life will be filled with less turmoil and drama going forward.

Not true, his intention was to make money, period

To "facilitate scamming" is a very possible outcome/consequence that may follow later on,  if he wanted to scam he would have used account to trade and probably get a bit more than his account would sell for.

Now, if he really did scam someone and went away with it, then you would make perfect sense on why isn't he tagged, now for the purpose of this debate, let's assume he really did sell his account and whoever uses the account now is not the same guy back in 2016, the questions to be asked are

1- Did the new guy scam anyone?
2- Did the account's posts turn into useless spam?

if not, then what difference does it really make if it's the guy who created the account or it's someone from the other side of the world? as far as "scam" is concerned, it does not really matter.

you see I can give you a million reasons of why his account shouldn't be tagged, while I can also give you the same amount of reasons on why must his account be tagged, but that wouldn't change a thing, DT members happened to agree on not to tag his account.

There is really no other way of looking at it, there is no super power he has which keeps protecting him, at the time there was no DT / Merit gang, nobody would have protected him, it just happened , stop trying to make up reasons for it.


True, but there is now more than what, 100 , 200 ? DT members, non of them thinks that account deserve a tag, I hope you don't think that all current DT members are afraid of him or some stupid shit like that.

direwolf and mikey seem incapable to understand a very basic and undeniable FACT.


1. nutildah is certain that selling your account will lead to scamming  READ THE FUCKING QUOTED POSTS FROM 2014

He feels so certain about it and so strongly, he is sayng he will start his own thread about account sellers to make sure they are pariahs ( because they are evil and facilitating scams)

2. If you are certain selling your account will lead to people getting scammed then you are willingly to facilitate scamming for a Price  IN THIS INSTANCE 0.3 BTC


How can this be difficult to understand?

It is quite possible that people lack the capacity to understand this simple concept but they should not be on DT.

HAVE YOU EVEN READ THE POSTS NUTILDAH MADE BEFORE TRYING TO SELL HIS OWN ACCOUNT??

If you have and are still incapable of seeing why this person is undeniably financially high risk then you both should not be on DT or making any kind of decisions of influence on this forum.



There can be NO DENYING that nutildah

1. believes firmly account selling leads to scamming and facilitates scams which he feels strongly is wrong and EVIL

2. that although he believes this to be wrong and evil  HE IS STILL GOING TO DO IT FOR A PRICE.



Mikeys argument seems to have gone off on a tangent and seems as always to be mutating into a different scenario.  What if a scammer says, I did not want to scam. I just wanted to make money period. If there was another way to make the same money or I just got that amount of money handed to me for doing nothing I would have rather done that. DOES THAT MAKE IT OKAY??

The clear intention is this... Let me try and break it down.


1. I am certain that selling my account will facilitate scamming ( confirmed by 2014 posts)
2. I am willing to punish others selling accounts even starting my own thread because I am so certain it is EVIL to sell your account (confirmed by 2014 posts)
3. In light of 1&2  I will still be willing to sell my account for 0.3 BTC (confirmed by 2016 posts)

there really is no OTHER way to see it.


trying to bring in the changing attitudes of the board ONLY MAKES IT WORSE FOR NUTILDAH...

2014 - majority said it was okay  - nutildah is 100% sure it is facilitating scams and evil.

2016 - many now realizing it does facilitate scamming - nutildah if paid 0.3 btc believes now ???? haha  

can you not see how foolish your arguments of defense are?  Please bring SS here so he can help you alter the meaning of words that may help?




If you are sure doing something is wrong and it will harm others but you will still do it for a price........how the fuck can anyone ever trust you again?

You would NOT be giving this protection to any non DT.

These specious arguments of defense are really poor and transparent.


Why is he not tagged? because as Laudas feltching clown and vods  posts have confirmed.... we dare not act against the central colluding group or it will negatively impact upon us. ( confirmed)

Seems now that we debunked nutildahs friends excuses.... why has he still not been given red trust for willing scam facilitating for pay ??? now caught trying to delete the evidence or mutate into a bunch of excuses that shield the original details of it all.

How is this clearly not financially motivated wrong doing?? get this filthy piece of scam facilitating shit red tagged. I see no valid reason for this person not to have a scam tag?

So, tell us again why YOU haven't tagged them? ???

This is a good idea I think willing scam facilitators should be tagged and flagged

He got busted https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1567647.msg54197921#msg54197921

CryptoTwitter got him

Yes the guy is pure scum.
I will be creating my own thread on him soon.

A willing scam facilitator for pay should not be sponsored by fortunejack or any sponsor.
We should all make sure that no sponsor touches these types of willing scam facilitators for pay
Nutildah also is now preventing honest members receiving valuable warnings about his scammer friend lauda
This vile scum bag needs removal

Nutildah of bitcointalk  is still abusing the trust system.

He is making false claims about me.

He is also a proven scammer facilitator for pay who tries to edit his post history to hide his past financially motivated wrong doing.