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Title: CryptoRush.in Are you Scamming Votes or Not? Post by: hostmaster on March 17, 2014, 07:03:15 AM Yesterday we had an interesting vote i was there until last minute and we collected from our community members
1.8 BTC & about 22k Votes see funds send there https://blockchain.info/address/1PVdYuypQujKdc7tbaG3F9SMzG2UjLGUUt?filter=2 RealStackcoin was staying at rank 3 until last minute. But RealStackCoin seems to have in less than 60 seconds +140.000 votes which is about 14 BTC but when the blockchain related to RealStackCoin checked. We see only 934 dollars which is less than what we collected. http://puu.sh/7yzEv.png i want to ask here https://blockchain.info/address/1ER9XTiN4uthP9zesCpZyuHfVDRfEAruLm?filter=2 What kind voting is this? I & ECC Community needs clear explanation on this. Title: Re: CryptoRush.in Are you Scamming Votes or Not? Post by: crypto-dude on March 17, 2014, 07:14:02 AM Yesterday we had an interesting vote i was there until last minute and we collected from our community members 1.8 BTC & about 22k Votes see funds send there https://blockchain.info/address/1PVdYuypQujKdc7tbaG3F9SMzG2UjLGUUt?filter=2 RealStackcoin was staying at rank 3 until last minute. But RealStackCoin seems to have in less than 60 seconds +140.000 votes which is about 14 BTC but when the blockchain related to RealStackCoin checked. We see only 934 dollars which is less than what we collected. http://puu.sh/7yzEv.png i want to ask here https://blockchain.info/address/1ER9XTiN4uthP9zesCpZyuHfVDRfEAruLm?filter=2 What kind voting is this? I & ECC Community needs clear explanation on this. Yes we need an explanation from cryptorush! Title: Re: CryptoRush.in Are you Scamming Votes or Not? Post by: comecoin21 on March 17, 2014, 07:27:11 AM Good question, I also want answers.
Title: Re: CryptoRush.in Are you Scamming Votes or Not? Post by: strasboug on March 17, 2014, 07:54:03 AM Good question, I also want answers. Same here...Title: Re: CryptoRush.in Are you Scamming Votes or Not? Post by: sammy007 on March 17, 2014, 03:29:45 PM Guys, better vote for Mintpal, there was fair Zeitcoin approval.
Title: Re: CryptoRush.in Are you Scamming Votes or Not? Post by: linkandzelda on March 17, 2014, 04:02:25 PM Hi, just thought I'd answer this. There's a bug that shows incorrect vote counts for the coins that won the voting. RealStackCoin definitely did not get that many votes. I can assure you that the voting process is 100% fair.
Regards, LaZ CryptoRush Title: Re: CryptoRush.in Are you Scamming Votes or Not? Post by: strasboug on March 17, 2014, 04:46:35 PM Hi, just thought I'd answer this. There's a bug that shows incorrect vote counts for the coins that won the voting. RealStackCoin definitely did not get that many votes. I can assure you that the voting process is 100% fair. Regards, LaZ CryptoRush Then why not put the real winner, which is ECC, to the exchange? Title: Re: CryptoRush.in Are you Scamming Votes or Not? Post by: strasboug on March 17, 2014, 04:48:44 PM Hi, just thought I'd answer this. There's a bug that shows incorrect vote counts for the coins that won the voting. RealStackCoin definitely did not get that many votes. I can assure you that the voting process is 100% fair. Regards, LaZ CryptoRush Since it is a bug, why not correct it?? why RSC still trading there: https://cryptorush.in/index.php?p=trading&m=RSC&b=BTC and not the real winner of the vote, which is ECC? Title: Re: CryptoRush.in Are you Scamming Votes or Not? Post by: linkandzelda on March 17, 2014, 04:53:32 PM ECC was not the winner, we refreshed on the dot of the count down and RealStackCoin was the winner. That's how we decide the winner, what the system says at the time the clock hits 0. As for the bug, that bug only shows at the bottom of the list, not the top half (the correct half). The other 2 top contenders were 1-2 mins late with winning, sorry about that.
Title: Re: CryptoRush.in Are you Scamming Votes or Not? Post by: Camilio on March 17, 2014, 04:56:41 PM Hi, just thought I'd answer this. There's a bug that shows incorrect vote counts for the coins that won the voting. RealStackCoin definitely did not get that many votes. I can assure you that the voting process is 100% fair. Regards, LaZ CryptoRush take realstackcoin from the exchange and put ecc into otherwise its been proven that cryptorush manipulated the voting procedure. That is unacceptable. There are serious guys sending btc to your exchange in hope to get their coin forward and then this shit happens. Title: Re: CryptoRush.in Are you Scamming Votes or Not? Post by: crypto-dude on March 17, 2014, 04:59:38 PM ECC was not the winner, we refreshed on the dot of the count down and RealStackCoin was the winner. That's how we decide the winner, what the system says at the time the clock hits 0. As for the bug, that bug only shows at the bottom of the list, not the top half (the correct half). The other 2 top contenders were 1-2 mins late with winning, sorry about that. Give the proof that RSC is the winner, you still say the last seconds they voted 140000 votes? This is completely bullshit. The credibility of cryptorush is serious a problem now, if it can not be done in a fair way the vote system, then it is simply cheating there! Title: Re: CryptoRush.in Are you Scamming Votes or Not? Post by: hostmaster on March 17, 2014, 05:04:58 PM Hi, just thought I'd answer this. There's a bug that shows incorrect vote counts for the coins that won the voting. RealStackCoin definitely did not get that many votes. I can assure you that the voting process is 100% fair. Do you have an official address where we can sent a letter?Regards, LaZ CryptoRush Title: Re: CryptoRush.in Are you Scamming Votes or Not? Post by: strasboug on March 17, 2014, 05:06:18 PM ECC was not the winner, we refreshed on the dot of the count down and RealStackCoin was the winner. That's how we decide the winner, what the system says at the time the clock hits 0. As for the bug, that bug only shows at the bottom of the list, not the top half (the correct half). The other 2 top contenders were 1-2 mins late with winning, sorry about that. Give the proof that RSC is the winner, you still say the last seconds they voted 140000 votes? This is completely bullshit. The credibility of cryptorush is serious a problem now, if it can not be done in a fair way the vote system, then it is simply cheating there! This is incredible what linkandzelda said, even with modified counts, in the last few seconds cast more than 10000 votes? I voted many times, I know how your voting system reacts, you can't vote fast, unless to do cheats with programs. Explain to us, how these 10000+ votes are cast in the last seconds of the vote? You think people can be easily fooled here? This looks to me a real scam exchange. I can't believe it. Title: Re: CryptoRush.in Are you Scamming Votes or Not? Post by: linkandzelda on March 17, 2014, 05:41:59 PM ECC was not the winner, we refreshed on the dot of the count down and RealStackCoin was the winner. That's how we decide the winner, what the system says at the time the clock hits 0. As for the bug, that bug only shows at the bottom of the list, not the top half (the correct half). The other 2 top contenders were 1-2 mins late with winning, sorry about that. Give the proof that RSC is the winner, you still say the last seconds they voted 140000 votes? This is completely bullshit. The credibility of cryptorush is serious a problem now, if it can not be done in a fair way the vote system, then it is simply cheating there! I never said they voted 140000, they won with 19494 votes only. I said the display on the bottom half of the page was incorrect. It's corrected now. Title: Re: CryptoRush.in Are you Scamming Votes or Not? Post by: hostmaster on March 17, 2014, 05:47:45 PM ECC was not the winner, we refreshed on the dot of the count down and RealStackCoin was the winner. That's how we decide the winner, what the system says at the time the clock hits 0. As for the bug, that bug only shows at the bottom of the list, not the top half (the correct half). The other 2 top contenders were 1-2 mins late with winning, sorry about that. Give the proof that RSC is the winner, you still say the last seconds they voted 140000 votes? This is completely bullshit. The credibility of cryptorush is serious a problem now, if it can not be done in a fair way the vote system, then it is simply cheating there! I never said they voted 140000, they won with 19494 votes only. I said the display on the bottom half of the page was incorrect. It's corrected now. Title: Re: CryptoRush.in Are you Scamming Votes or Not? Post by: linkandzelda on March 17, 2014, 05:48:10 PM ECC was not the winner, we refreshed on the dot of the count down and RealStackCoin was the winner. That's how we decide the winner, what the system says at the time the clock hits 0. As for the bug, that bug only shows at the bottom of the list, not the top half (the correct half). The other 2 top contenders were 1-2 mins late with winning, sorry about that. Give the proof that RSC is the winner, you still say the last seconds they voted 140000 votes? This is completely bullshit. The credibility of cryptorush is serious a problem now, if it can not be done in a fair way the vote system, then it is simply cheating there! This is incredible what linkandzelda said, even with modified counts, in the last few seconds cast more than 10000 votes? I voted many times, I know how your voting system reacts, you can't vote fast, unless to do cheats with programs. Explain to us, how these 10000+ votes are cast in the last seconds of the vote? You think people can be easily fooled here? This looks to me a real scam exchange. I can't believe it. There's nothing wrong or scammy about our voting system. We update the votes every 2 mins and we even list votes even with 0 confirmations to give people more time to make votes right at the last minute, without waiting for confirms. Me and the rest of the team refreshes when the clock hits 0 to determine the winner. To secure BTC votes in the future, leave at least 5 mins before the time runs out. We also only allow users that traded to vote, so it cant be abused by bots. I would appreciate if you can refrain from these kinds of allegations in the future towards our system. Title: Re: CryptoRush.in Are you Scamming Votes or Not? Post by: linkandzelda on March 17, 2014, 05:50:44 PM ECC was not the winner, we refreshed on the dot of the count down and RealStackCoin was the winner. That's how we decide the winner, what the system says at the time the clock hits 0. As for the bug, that bug only shows at the bottom of the list, not the top half (the correct half). The other 2 top contenders were 1-2 mins late with winning, sorry about that. Give the proof that RSC is the winner, you still say the last seconds they voted 140000 votes? This is completely bullshit. The credibility of cryptorush is serious a problem now, if it can not be done in a fair way the vote system, then it is simply cheating there! I never said they voted 140000, they won with 19494 votes only. I said the display on the bottom half of the page was incorrect. It's corrected now. We don't keep logs that extensive unfortunately, we log when users vote with buttons and which times they voted. It would take a long time to build a report to proove this. There's nothing to prove here. We're adding ECC tonight anyway. Title: Re: CryptoRush.in Are you Scamming Votes or Not? Post by: hostmaster on March 17, 2014, 05:53:36 PM ECC was not the winner, we refreshed on the dot of the count down and RealStackCoin was the winner. That's how we decide the winner, what the system says at the time the clock hits 0. As for the bug, that bug only shows at the bottom of the list, not the top half (the correct half). The other 2 top contenders were 1-2 mins late with winning, sorry about that. Give the proof that RSC is the winner, you still say the last seconds they voted 140000 votes? This is completely bullshit. The credibility of cryptorush is serious a problem now, if it can not be done in a fair way the vote system, then it is simply cheating there! I never said they voted 140000, they won with 19494 votes only. I said the display on the bottom half of the page was incorrect. It's corrected now. We don't keep logs that extensive unfortunately, we log when users vote with buttons and which times they voted. It would take a long time to build a report to proove this. There's nothing to prove here. We're adding ECC tonight anyway. Title: Re: CryptoRush.in Are you Scamming Votes or Not? Post by: linkandzelda on March 17, 2014, 06:06:31 PM ECC was not the winner, we refreshed on the dot of the count down and RealStackCoin was the winner. That's how we decide the winner, what the system says at the time the clock hits 0. As for the bug, that bug only shows at the bottom of the list, not the top half (the correct half). The other 2 top contenders were 1-2 mins late with winning, sorry about that. Give the proof that RSC is the winner, you still say the last seconds they voted 140000 votes? This is completely bullshit. The credibility of cryptorush is serious a problem now, if it can not be done in a fair way the vote system, then it is simply cheating there! I never said they voted 140000, they won with 19494 votes only. I said the display on the bottom half of the page was incorrect. It's corrected now. We don't keep logs that extensive unfortunately, we log when users vote with buttons and which times they voted. It would take a long time to build a report to proove this. There's nothing to prove here. We're adding ECC tonight anyway. What the fuck man. Quit complaining alright? You lost fair and square, CryptoRush added RSC. Now they're doing YOU a massive favor by adding ECC too. Seriously, you got what you wanted, but you keep asking for more. Wtf? I have to agree here, every time we add a coin this happens. The second best claims they won at the last moment. I'm going to make this selection automatic in the future, no room for error. Title: Re: CryptoRush.in Are you Scamming Votes or Not? Post by: strasboug on March 17, 2014, 06:07:00 PM ECC was not the winner, we refreshed on the dot of the count down and RealStackCoin was the winner. That's how we decide the winner, what the system says at the time the clock hits 0. As for the bug, that bug only shows at the bottom of the list, not the top half (the correct half). The other 2 top contenders were 1-2 mins late with winning, sorry about that. Give the proof that RSC is the winner, you still say the last seconds they voted 140000 votes? This is completely bullshit. The credibility of cryptorush is serious a problem now, if it can not be done in a fair way the vote system, then it is simply cheating there! I never said they voted 140000, they won with 19494 votes only. I said the display on the bottom half of the page was incorrect. It's corrected now. We don't keep logs that extensive unfortunately, we log when users vote with buttons and which times they voted. It would take a long time to build a report to proove this. There's nothing to prove here. We're adding ECC tonight anyway. This is scam, it is simply not possible vote 10000 in the last seconds, your system is fraud, and you still try to deny it. You made a mistake listing the scam one and you don't want to correct your mistake. Make sure the future all these holes are fixed so at least there are some fairness of your system. Title: Re: CryptoRush.in Are you Scamming Votes or Not? Post by: linkandzelda on March 17, 2014, 07:51:36 PM ECC was not the winner, we refreshed on the dot of the count down and RealStackCoin was the winner. That's how we decide the winner, what the system says at the time the clock hits 0. As for the bug, that bug only shows at the bottom of the list, not the top half (the correct half). The other 2 top contenders were 1-2 mins late with winning, sorry about that. Give the proof that RSC is the winner, you still say the last seconds they voted 140000 votes? This is completely bullshit. The credibility of cryptorush is serious a problem now, if it can not be done in a fair way the vote system, then it is simply cheating there! I never said they voted 140000, they won with 19494 votes only. I said the display on the bottom half of the page was incorrect. It's corrected now. We don't keep logs that extensive unfortunately, we log when users vote with buttons and which times they voted. It would take a long time to build a report to proove this. There's nothing to prove here. We're adding ECC tonight anyway. This is scam, it is simply not possible vote 10000 in the last seconds, your system is fraud, and you still try to deny it. You made a mistake listing the scam one and you don't want to correct your mistake. Make sure the future all these holes are fixed so at least there are some fairness of your system. Suite yourself. I've told you how the system works, and I've even told you ECC is coming on tonight. If you keep calling it a scam I won't feel like listing it anymore. Title: Re: CryptoRush.in Are you Scamming Votes or Not? Post by: incin on March 17, 2014, 11:38:49 PM One doesn't speak for all. Please continue to add ECC, much appreciated!!!
Title: Re: CryptoRush.in Are you Scamming Votes or Not? Post by: MysticalPotato on March 18, 2014, 12:47:52 AM ECC was not the winner, we refreshed on the dot of the count down and RealStackCoin was the winner. That's how we decide the winner, what the system says at the time the clock hits 0. As for the bug, that bug only shows at the bottom of the list, not the top half (the correct half). The other 2 top contenders were 1-2 mins late with winning, sorry about that. Give the proof that RSC is the winner, you still say the last seconds they voted 140000 votes? This is completely bullshit. The credibility of cryptorush is serious a problem now, if it can not be done in a fair way the vote system, then it is simply cheating there! I never said they voted 140000, they won with 19494 votes only. I said the display on the bottom half of the page was incorrect. It's corrected now. We don't keep logs that extensive unfortunately, we log when users vote with buttons and which times they voted. It would take a long time to build a report to proove this. There's nothing to prove here. We're adding ECC tonight anyway. This is scam, it is simply not possible vote 10000 in the last seconds, your system is fraud, and you still try to deny it. You made a mistake listing the scam one and you don't want to correct your mistake. Make sure the future all these holes are fixed so at least there are some fairness of your system. Suite yourself. I've told you how the system works, and I've even told you ECC is coming on tonight. If you keep calling it a scam I won't feel like listing it anymore. I don't own any of the coins mentioned above, so I do not have any stake here. Your explanation of what transpired were unclear and lack corroboration, and your subsequent threat (highlighted above) reminds me of a Dalberg quote. "Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely." Title: Re: CryptoRush.in Are you Scamming Votes or Not? Post by: xbudahx on March 18, 2014, 12:53:22 AM ECC was not the winner, we refreshed on the dot of the count down and RealStackCoin was the winner. That's how we decide the winner, what the system says at the time the clock hits 0. As for the bug, that bug only shows at the bottom of the list, not the top half (the correct half). The other 2 top contenders were 1-2 mins late with winning, sorry about that. Give the proof that RSC is the winner, you still say the last seconds they voted 140000 votes? This is completely bullshit. The credibility of cryptorush is serious a problem now, if it can not be done in a fair way the vote system, then it is simply cheating there! I never said they voted 140000, they won with 19494 votes only. I said the display on the bottom half of the page was incorrect. It's corrected now. We don't keep logs that extensive unfortunately, we log when users vote with buttons and which times they voted. It would take a long time to build a report to proove this. There's nothing to prove here. We're adding ECC tonight anyway. This is scam, it is simply not possible vote 10000 in the last seconds, your system is fraud, and you still try to deny it. You made a mistake listing the scam one and you don't want to correct your mistake. Make sure the future all these holes are fixed so at least there are some fairness of your system. Suite yourself. I've told you how the system works, and I've even told you ECC is coming on tonight. If you keep calling it a scam I won't feel like listing it anymore. Well there's my reason to never use this exchange. Title: Re: CryptoRush.in Are you Scamming Votes or Not? Post by: GaryBirch on March 18, 2014, 01:51:02 AM Well, I guess it's no wonder we can't keep whole exchanges from going down and being completely wiped out either with or without the help of the proprietor of an exchange when we can't write a simple voting system that can't be easily manipulated or in some way questioned. Honestly, I could care less about the outcome of this one lousy little vote, when we have entire exchanges that are running away with our coins and all because we can't manage, oversee or regulate this new industry that we are creating.
If anyone is interested in working with me to first create a new exchange and secondly work with others to create an agreed upon set of operating rules and principles that would be enforced by an independent 3rd party yet to be created, I would love to hear from you. I have been toying with the idea for this for a short time, but after being taken/scammed 3 separate times in the last 3 months, I don't see how there is anyone to trust and I don't want to be just one more failure or perceived thief! And you can't have a market place where there is no assurance that standard operating rules are not being followed. Sorry, this is a bit off topic and a bit scattered but it ties directly to the root of the problems we're having in this industry in general, and we need to bring credibility to all aspects of the system in order to keep the governments out, bring back credibility and confidence that simple transfers and trading mechanisms are not being used against us and to allow us to "self-regulate" our industry or we will become know as a collection of thieves, conmen and hackers. Hopefully all of us are starting to see we have a perceived credibility problem and if we don't find a way to address it ourselves the consumers we are working so hard to get involved and the government who we don't really want involved at all will take this out of our hands. If I have offended anyone that is honest and well meaning that is not my intention, and I sincerely apologize. Respectfully, Gary Birch Title: Re: CryptoRush.in Are you Scamming Votes or Not? Post by: portice on March 18, 2014, 03:06:52 AM Paying to list a coin is garbage anyways, whatever happened to a coin being added to an exchange because people wanted it for some reason because it had some sort of value?
Title: Re: CryptoRush.in Are you Scamming Votes or Not? Post by: 808shark on March 20, 2014, 10:07:44 AM Cryto Rush Scam and Fraud to the moon...... Scam in voting, Scam in Zeitcoin, other alt coins etc. Your survival chance is very low. we will get you down. Don't trade at Crypto Rush they are not honest.
Title: Re: CryptoRush.in Are you Scamming Votes or Not? Post by: triplexoid on March 21, 2014, 05:15:27 PM that's a bug for sure. It requires deeper investigation
Title: Re: CryptoRush.in Are you Scamming Votes or Not? Post by: Trafficlearn on March 21, 2014, 08:03:19 PM Simple to resolve......take down the countdown timer and at a random time choose the top coin every day.
Title: Re: CryptoRush.in Are you Scamming Votes or Not? Post by: jonnysomething on March 21, 2014, 08:13:39 PM ECC was not the winner, we refreshed on the dot of the count down and RealStackCoin was the winner. That's how we decide the winner, what the system says at the time the clock hits 0. As for the bug, that bug only shows at the bottom of the list, not the top half (the correct half). The other 2 top contenders were 1-2 mins late with winning, sorry about that. Give the proof that RSC is the winner, you still say the last seconds they voted 140000 votes? This is completely bullshit. The credibility of cryptorush is serious a problem now, if it can not be done in a fair way the vote system, then it is simply cheating there! I never said they voted 140000, they won with 19494 votes only. I said the display on the bottom half of the page was incorrect. It's corrected now. We don't keep logs that extensive unfortunately, we log when users vote with buttons and which times they voted. It would take a long time to build a report to proove this. There's nothing to prove here. We're adding ECC tonight anyway. This is scam, it is simply not possible vote 10000 in the last seconds, your system is fraud, and you still try to deny it. You made a mistake listing the scam one and you don't want to correct your mistake. Make sure the future all these holes are fixed so at least there are some fairness of your system. Suite yourself. I've told you how the system works, and I've even told you ECC is coming on tonight. If you keep calling it a scam I won't feel like listing it anymore. I don't own any of the coins mentioned above, so I do not have any stake here. Your explanation of what transpired were unclear and lack corroboration, and your subsequent threat (highlighted above) reminds me of a Dalberg quote. "Power tends to corrupt, and absolute power corrupts absolutely." +1 I have nothing invested in RSC, ECC or CryptoRush.in, although I have traded there without issue. After reading that quote, I won't be back. It actually does look like a scum bag running a scam. Title: Re: CryptoRush.in Are you Scamming Votes or Not? Post by: odyssey on March 21, 2014, 09:04:06 PM We think they have come up with a great way to bring in BTC, without really having to do much for it. Just watch all the coins climb on top of each other and then at the last minutes, throw one on top of the pile and call it the winner. Absolutely no way to prove the whole system is legit......
Title: Re: CryptoRush.in Are you Scamming Votes or Not? Post by: jonnysomething on March 21, 2014, 09:13:18 PM We think they have come up with a great way to bring in BTC, without really having to do much for it. Just watch all the coins climb on top of each other and then at the last minutes, throw one on top of the pile and call it the winner. Absolutely no way to prove the whole system is legit...... Refunding the votes for the coins that don't win would be a fair system. LOL like that will happen. Title: Re: CryptoRush.in Are you Scamming Votes or Not? Post by: iGotSpots on March 21, 2014, 09:57:35 PM Man some of you exchanges should really hire people for PR
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