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Is there anyone here who tried to experiment in online gambling sites with a pen and paper?

Here's the idea, to determine the percentage of winning, I always think of doing an experiment where I would bet in an online gambling site then each bet will be written to the paper. A total of 10 bets per day in a 1-week duration and each bet will be written and will be recorded depending if the bet is winning or losing. Then conduct an analysis of the percentage of winnings to determine if there are some tricks we could find with these experiments in different gambling sites.

If there is someone who already does this, could you please share the outcome? At what Bet you usually win? and what platform could that technique be applicable?

This days you really do not need pen and paper. You can do it easily with spreadsheet. I have done if long time ago and it's waste of time LOL
You win, you lose and that is gambling.

I really do not think someone else's statistic is going to help you. Everyone has their own style of betting and risk taking. When I did it, I had some personal info so even if I want I would not like to share it with anyone else.

Bottom line is that I had a lose at the end but not much.

Aren't you suppose to analyze before you place a bet? Check the team, check the odds, place a bet. I also think it would be pointless to write the results and analyze them later on. The circumstances changes from game to game and your strategy will keep on changing too.

All seeds are random and provably fair, even if you try to keep track of them in between days. Chances of winning will still depend on the odds you set for your game/session/roll, especially for dice. Even if you successfully plotted the probability of winning for each day, chances are these numbers can't still help you and you will still play against the house just as other people would normally do, with or without the data you gathered. I'm pretty sure some are still doing this strategy but on provably-fair games and online casinos, this will not work.

Yes, you can get the percentage of winning through that, but in the end, could be quite inaccurate at times. Lets imagine you testing 10 games everyday and on average you win 5 games per day. Now imagine if you tried to play 20 games, you're supposed to win an average of 5 by the end of the 10th game, but no. You kept losing until the 15th game and only then did you win.
Percentage of winning is easy to get, and most of the time it hovers at around 50% or even less if you're actually unlucky, but thats it. It doesn't really help in determining your chances of winning everyday, its more like you just determine the average times you won everyday.

it is pointless(at least for me) to determine the percentage of your winning in gambling. I know that some people get some satisfaction knowing that they have more wins than
losses but even if the percentage of your winning is positive doesn't mean that your profit is also positive. and also, I'd rather know the percentage of my profit than knowing
the percentage of winnings.

only if the OP is specifically talking about sports betting but he is probably not.

For luck based games? Then its total a waste of time and effort on inputting those info on a piece of paper yet you cant really able to see anything with that. You cant formulate something on a thing which is completely random.

For strategic like card games and sportsbet? Possible but this would always vary on your skills and analysis. Writing up some info about it wont make a change though but rather just a reference of yours.

yes i did that before but i dont write my analysis on a paper but i only use online calculators  . i sum up the total of bets would take to hit that high multiplier   .

 i then allocate an amount based on my calculation if i still didnt hit that multiplier and my bankroll already got busted , i will just stop and ill try again next time  .  these experiments of mine sometimes work but sometimes dont , i guess that also depend on my luck  .

First of all, there is no short cuts or tricks to win in gambling. I am sure you will not find a trend in gambling wins or loses if you try to calculate the wining and losing percentages daily or weekly. Secondly sometimes I play dice games with minimum satoshi and there are too many games that I play that it is almost impossible to calculate each win or loss. Its just an extra burden with no real output.

There are many people who play auto bets in the gambling sites and those auto bets do 100 or mores bets in less than a minute or so. So it is practically impossible to note each bet results. Yes, sometime I do count my sports betting and keep track of the money which I won or lost. Its much more better if you can track the inflow and outflow of money in gambling games rather than the win or lost of bets.

I agree to these points which its nonsense to tally everything when you are just playing for entertainment.You wouldnt bother
to write up stats on how much you loss and how much you won on a game on a particular site.Creatiing strategies out of it
is somewhat BS because no matter how you do made caculations you cant still change the fact when it comes to winning chance.

There is no need to an experiment or an analyze.
Every bet is independent from other bets. For example in dice game the chance of winning depends on the house edge and the odds. That does not depend on previous bets nor the platform you are playing in.

Whatever outcomes of your previous bets are, the chance of winning in a single bet equals (100%-house edge)/odds  
This is your chance of winning and it doesn't change. No experiment can give you a more accurate result.

I personally do that when playing online games and writing my matchup and tallying it whether that was a win or the other way. But, these days you can just write it on a sticky pad if you have the app or simply use notepad. I never done such experiments just like that because if I do that, and it is effective. It might not be as effective as yours if you'll do the same. Since if the time it was successful on my part, probably my luck is rolling that time. And on yours it may not. And on some other times, I tried it again, I may not be successful doing that same method all over again.

I've actually done this for activities where there's some level of skill involved like sports or esports betting, but purely for my own interest and not primarily to find ways to improve my performance because the analysis that I do on matches varies from match to match and I've found there's not really any one thing that I can improve on. If you're talking about tricks to win in purely luck-based games, there really are none, and house edge will cause you to lose money in the longer run anyways.

If you're not keeping track of your win ratio, then you're doing it wrong. How can you expect to be profitable in gambling if you're not even sure how much you have wagered, lost and won?

As a poker player, this is completely unthinkable, everybody uses poker HUDs that automatically keep track of your EV. However, I understand that these tools aren't available for most other platforms, so it needs to be done manually.

Obviously this can be a challenge if you're a high-frequency player that uses one of the myriad dice bots or whatnot to trade, but for those low volume gamblers, there really is no excuse to not keep track of performance.

I only played dice in most of my Bitcoin gambling and I don't think writing it with a pen and paper would help my chances of winning every future bet I have. For one the percentage of winning the bet can already be adjusted to their slider from 99.5% winning to even .01% of winning the bet so you already know your chance of winning your hand. What you might really be asking if there is some kind of pattern that will show up if I have written it on paper which I think won't also be useful again since most dice sites will show your previous result every time you bet, this is already enough for you to see if there is really some kind of pattern you should follow.

If the purpose is to determined if there's a trick, then you are just wasting your time.

Dice, Roulettes = luck
Sports Betting = analyzation
Mind games = strategy

I don't know how can we determined the trick based on our past bets and listing our 10 bets per day. What can we only see there is how much we risk on that week.

Those mentioned are the key strengths that makes a person win or loss in gambling. With this even if we record we're going to get the same result. Maybe Op gets an average on the winning percentage on his picks and the same can't be attributed to the gambling websites, because another person gets a different value from the one got for Op.

My response will be pointing to sports betting;

Placing 10 bets per day is not common, at least on the average sports bettors. The reason is not because of their bankroll but there are games that aren't worth to put a bet or difficult to analyze.

And it's not really necessary to do some listing of past bets here to somehow determined your weekly progress for the possible trick since every game does have a different analyzation, different odds, different status, different natures, etc. that might affect a certain game. Even the so-called head-to-head match record isn't a strong reference.

I don't know what are you trying to achieve here but even for bankroll management or playing with the odds, there isn't a trick because of the things I mentioned above. Rather than looking for a trick to increasing your winning chance rate, just stick with the sports you have knowledge. Not an assurance that you will always win but it's a good reference that you know your analyzation does make sense.

Yeah, but its really a pain in the eyes.

I am already doing this when I have enough funds to start a bankroll, and as of the moment even if I don't have to count, I still believe that I am negative or at lose already in gambling.

For gamblers who aim to consider what they are doing as a profession and a be a long term gambler, they need to have this just like any business that would monitor their profitability, and I know with discipline, anyone can do this, however, there's no guarantee on being profitable.

You mean putting down everything and note your win/lost %?

In the beginning yes, I did like that but I would say it's tiring, Lol. As a gambler you don't need this experiment I would say. At the end of the end it boils down as how you managed and if you have money to bet and continue with your gambling habits, just saying.

No, I don't do that because I think that can attract me always to play gambling. I will curious about what I will get from gambling. And if somehow, I win or lose, I will still play for more, and I am afraid of being addicted in a long time. Besides that, I don't know what kind of analysis I should do with the experiment. But if you would like to try for your experiment, then I think you can share to us, so we know what the result is.

When it regards to the luck based games like card games or roulette etc, its a complete waste of time because you don't need it. At this day if there are somebody who are doing this, they are using spreadsheet instead of pen and paper but it will be useless because you can't get any conclusion if you do it.

When it regards to sports betting, probably you can conclude if you tally it on the spreadsheet but it is still a waste of time because it is gambling. You win and you lose and that's it :D.

It's like playing with the odds of both teams. There are many things to be considered if you are getting the percentage of winning a possible winning team, Analyzing the both team players, the settings, the coach and other factors that affect each game. It is purely estimated and on how you trust the team you are analyzing. Sometimes players are choking with their game so it's hard to predict every game. Sometimes I am basing on the percentage of others bet when a gambling site computes the odds.

Meaning to say that you are going to risk and consider your faith when betting? It is just quite better if we could have a basis of betting. Because I've read here before that there are people who bet only once per day because they said its effective, and the chances of winning is quite higher. In this regard, if there are holes in the patterns of winning then we could take advantage of it.

Listen, it is good to analyze your game and chances of winning at any point of gambling, I see it as strategizing. This is more needed to control games and personal emotions. But you know it is only applicable to some type of Games like predictions. Not those games you play by yourself. I don't know how that can guarantee your winning though, because everyone appears for betting with the mind of winning by any strategy.

There are no patterns like that. In luck-based games there is nothing you can do to change the outcome. In skill-based games you shouldn't be looking for patterns but to develop your skills.

It's a matter of probability.

You can't easily compute or solve during the game 'cause it's very confusing. You need a massive focus on the game so you can manage to compute while thinking about the next possible strategy to win. There are people who can do that, the probability is easy if you knew and well-known the percentage of each possibility.

But at some point, the skill set is the one that really matters. It will define how you'll build your strategy.

I tried to journal all of my bets for me to determine the percentage of winning. The results are always different so I can say that doing it is just waste of time because I get inaccurate data. There is no pattern in gambling, it is just based on skills and how you mange your emotions. It is a game of probability that requiring forecasting skills.

i think i get what Op means,its just that the computer might not consider a bettors threat to the site(though i am not sure about this and my only thoughts involve) so betting once a day may save you from being a loser.there was a game when i was young in our local when the horse race is being played in just a small screen and there is a one person that betting only for few times a day but he was lucky to win big mostly.i know this is a luck but i have a doubt that there is behind the winning.

I never done it before because lost and win as usual things in gambling then i have simple thought that if i lost it not more than just unlucky and correct me if i'm wrong but percentages of winning from gambling cannot determined from previous losses and every bets will have different results depend on the odds you were bets and the luck you have so whatever you calculate the method to avoid lost but eventually it will determined how much luck do you have during gambling

You made an Interesting point... I guess that is what Op want to know. He probably wants to know if all his in one-week total bets is profitable in the end.
Like you said, he should be looking at profitability rather winning?  If his total win is 60%, it doesn't guarantee profit, I guess?

In playing gambling not, just luck needed, you must know to things how to play gambling; sometimes, this is the reason and the techniques why do the professional gamblers always won on their game. The primary methods in gambling are researching how you will win the game in every situation, not all the time you will succeed better to take down all the mistakes and what happens in the game. All data is essential — the way to earn more skills by adapting the styles of the other player too.

Yeah, more likely you can analyze if the gambling you bet was on sports chances are you can analyze your bets or even deeper by analyzing the team, the players and much more. Better if you stick on the game of luck like dice, roulette etc, these kinds of games aren't that much of a hassle to analyze and in regards to the pen and paper it is a hassle as well there are many applications that can do it automatically if you know how to use them instead of writing it manually.

There are gambling that requires data and a better representation of it is you have an advantage over other bettors.

Usually when I play games 50%, and when I lose several times in a row, I have an assumption that the next 3 will have to come.
And one thing I thought when one thought was a scam, I watched where the smaller stakes were to play, it wasn't a bad idea to try.

and this is what reality means,gambling means to GAMBLE so there is no specific outcome not unless the Luck will favors you every time.
lucky that you did not lose that much because some did same risk but in the end they lose too much(maybe because there is an intention to earn higher so the greed covers the whole thing and end up losing of course.

Many of us don’t do it but I think is a very good idea to keep a full balance of how much we win or lose because if we look at our spreadsheet every week or so we may see that we are losing a lot of money for example and this may be a reason for us to stop.If we are winning of course will continue.

so if you knew that you are loosing why would you still keep a full balance  ?  winning does not win that you can continue but its better if you set a goal because gambling cant provide you a long term win  .  your winnings will decay overtime and will be replace by losses if you dont stop asap  . same as when you are loosing you should also be contented with it and call it a day  , maybe your just too unlucky that time  . i never done experimenting related to gambling but i do still win of course  .

The term “full balance” here has a meaning to keep track of everything you do in your gambling activity and is not related to money or liquid balance.

If we continue to win we keep playing until we see big loses and that should make us think deeper and stop.That was the meaning,I know we can never win in the long term otherwise the casinos wouldn’t exist in the first place.

If you are in a betting game probably you need to write first and think to analyze the possible result but this not give you an accurate result in the next bet. That's why I rarely gamble in betting because it needs too much analyzation. I prefer dice, roulette, poker and in a lottery because they are all based on the luck game. Determining the percentage of winning doesn't necessary if you gamble just for fun, it may cause headache for sure.

I never thought of this, because the house edge will always beat you, so many strategies have been set up to try to beat the house but all of these are nor successful, I don't know about the others, but it will lessen the excitement, once you tried to track it, because sometimes it's a roller coaster, even if you employ a strategy, the outcome will always mix, no same outcome on every hour.

I did experiment every online gambling site I've tried looking if there is a pattern to it. I know that is stupid but hear me out. My friend told me that these online gambling sites have a pattern and so I did try it. The pattern he is talking about is not how the number roll or the result comes, I told him this and he just burst out lauhing, he never told me what is that pattern though.

Pen and paper seems a waste. You could use notepad or some computer software stuff that records. Well, anyway, I am not typically a technical gambler wherein I do some weird stuff to came up with a solution 'cause I believe in one result, it is just either you win or you lose. What must be recorded is that how much money have been taken away from you, and if you have hit your planned to stop in such day. Though I'd like to try such experiment 'cause I ain't know what mathematical formula I would derived from it for me to get more winning.

I always do experiment when gambling. Because I believe that you're experimenting when you bet since you're trying various bets just to find out who among it would win. But unlike yours, I don't use pen and papers. I just bet what I think would win, and I think that's already an experiment. SO basically, my experiments were just all mental. And I don't record it.

Of course, I even tried a lot of experiment just to determine my gambling skills but non of them works for me so far.

Determining your percentage of winning is just a basic thing to do when you are a gambler, if you gamble in sports, you need to ensure that you are consistent enough before you start to risk a decent amount for your bankroll and bankroll management is very important and you can't do that without recording your betting transactions.

There is no pattern in any gambling site and everything is random. If there were winning pattern identified in the gambling sites then everyone will win from these sites which is surely not possible. In the good gambling sites you can check the house edges and there is no way anything can be known prior to placing a bet.

Yes, I've tried to run some experiments but sad to say that it all went the same. Its effectivity never works a hundred percent, it is just like the same for the usual strategy that most gamblers are using. This I'd think and help me to understand that winning in gambling isn't just because we have a strategy but because we have that luck in which it gives us a way to choose the best one.

I never thought that, maybe because I am here because of the fun I'm getting and not on the profit, but there was a time that I do experiment on the many method on how to win, of course we all want to gain, having fun and at the same time winning is great, but I never imagine recording everything because it will not fun anymore, and besides the percentage of you are going to lose is high and that's a fact.

I have tried different experiments and strategies before but things still didn't help in the end. We all know that gambling is still a matter of luck so despite all the strategies that we make in order to determine the percentage of winnings and losses, none of it will still work for us to reach the satisfaction that we want. What we need to do is to set a target goal and put a certain limit on gambling so we'll not exceed and lose all our funds.

In gambling, enough knowledge is just a piece of learning in playing because, commonly, this is the battle of strategies and skills in performing a different game. There are only one who dominates the whole game and win a lot of profit if you want to become them make sure you know how to read the potential of winning too, because this may help you to understand what is your next move against your enemies. Sometimes psychological strategies are useful in playing gambling. You need to confuse your opponents by your step and let them lose focus.

Listing in a piece of paper and determine the percentage of winning is commonly use those gamblers who always bet in sports betting. Through this strategy, you can analyze very well who are going to gonna win per match. And also there's a possibility you can reduce the low chances of winning. But it not saying that you were always right, it seems you are still speculating every match and not give any assurance about the result. But this is applicable to skills games like sport bet.

In betting in sports, we also need to know the factors such as the team history, standings and how the team plays in the game. It will help you on your experiment to determine which team has the highest probability of dominating their opponent. Your analysis is essential and must have a deeper understanding and critically thinking. But as what you've said if luck-based game is the betting you played in gambling, then your experiment and prediction is useless.

Experiment and analyzation of the team will help you to determine the percentage of winning in the non luck-based game.

Based on my experienced, I honestly tried experimenting slots game in online gambling sites with a pen and paper by using mathematics equation or using probability that some of my computations got it right and wrong, but the longer I do this kind of experiment I got bored because I didn't get or earned any huge profit from it.

What gambling are you talking about? If it is dice, then most of the casino does show the win chance/percentage. If the percentage shows 50%, then this means that if you place  100 bets, 50 of them will be green ones. But remember, you can even get straight 100 red bets too. These are game of chances and is totally luck based. Writing down on a paper and doing calculations can never help you "increase" your chance of winning. If it was possible, every casino would be broke by now since people will be able to beat the house easily.

Most good gambling platforms give you a way to track your previous bets.

I recommend that everybody goes through to find out their win percentage and especially calculate their wins/losses.

This way you can determine what needs to change with future gambles.

Basically, what you're referring to is called a martingale. There are several ways to organize the bets and make some sense out of it by forming a pattern and like in the past, it has never worked out on a provable fair gambling site as every roll is random. This experiment failed a long time ago my dude.

I pretty much appreciate that information because I don't really have an idea about the term where you are conducting experiments concerning gambling bets and chances of winning regarding bets. So far, I don't read any post concerning finding some winning patterns in online gambling especially in cryptocurrency gambling sites.

I think a lot of people have done this to make their strategy, especially in a making of a bot/script. No need paper, we can even link the site to excel or something with API to make everything automatic!

You can measure your experimental percentage of winning, of course, why not? For example, the theoretical chance of getting one side of a coin in a coin flip is 50%. But if you do that, let say in a 1000x times, of course, you won't get exactly 50%, but in the long run your result should be closer to 50%. I think this is what OP is asking.

This is good ways on determining the probability of winning, but in my own personal experience I only based on the trend on how it's match will go along the way. Theory was only a reference, it could give you more insight but cannot sustain because you should look on more factors which brings closer wins as well. Op asked us our mindset on this so, that's only be proven by experiences.

You don't really have to do anything like that in order to know what are your chances of winning or losing, for example in a roulette there are 37 or 38 numbers, if you place a bet in any single one of them then you have a chance of 2.7027% or 2.6315% respectively to win, but if you wanted to do something like that you cannot take a few hundred spins of the roulette and think that you are going to obtain meaningful results, you will need to record at least 10000 spins to get the results that you are looking for.

If I'm gambling for money or for-profit, I would have done that, but I'm gambling for fun and there is no need for that, and even if you do that I doubt if you can get a perfect formula, you can win in a few games, but gambling is dynamic, what works now will not work tomorrow gamblers have proven that even experts cannot come up with a perfect method.

I tried experimenting in a betting game in a lot of gambling websites but I just end up losing money and my investment I think it would be great if you would just let the others do that for you,
you could learn from the mistakes of the other and get tips and tricks from them. Usually, it is hard to make a claim that you could win if you do this especially in the betting game also a lot of users are also experimenting from gambling websites on how to keep on winning the game.

I definitely agree with this.

I mean, it is already given by the gambling house on how much chances of winning you have depends on the ratio of your bet, the less percentage of winning, the bigger amount of money you could win, the bigger risk also, and vice versa, it is simple as that, you don't need to analyze it like you could change your future in gambling, because you can't, gambling house edge is absolute.

If your record is consist of more losses than wins, it means gambling cannot become a way to ensure money. It is a random game that totally depends on luck. your current way of playing is the correct one. No need to keep track of loses because it will just hurt and urge you for recovery. Sports betting can increase the percentage of winning on the basis of your knowledge. Just enjoy the game.

More wins or losses either way it's not sustainable for most gamblers. On sports betting it's possible but only a few could pull a consistent win rate with a good enough average odds per bet.

Calculating your wins and losses to know what changes are needed won't help unless you're using the same multiplier and with that said it sounds like gambler's fallacy.

I have thought of that but I might do that because it's kinda annoying if you keep recording or doing a note while betting it will lose the excitement, for me gambling is a spontaneous decision because gambling is very dynamic it will always change and it's hard to keep up with the changing algorithm

I do agree, every game is not the same as what happens to you recently.
And actually, gambling sites do have their own record of your gameplay, so I don't see any needs to record your games on your own.

As you have said, gambling does always change, and it is hard to follow the flow of the game if it is changing gradually, no matter what you do, it is hard to achieve it.

And he thinks about sports betting probably, with that you can keep some track, but you play dices, crash, plinko, games I play these days, it's hard to keep some tracks. It's not like I have a couple of bets, I play half an hour and that means many, many bets, I experiment with odds, who will write all that down.
I know how much I money I can spend, I deposit that amount and I play, if I win it's great if I lose I know that happens from time to time, I don't regret, I come back again when I have money.

Sport-betting and most skill-based game, I guess. Ofcourse, only few win something in competitive games like skill-based gambling. The interesting thing about this is that this few  rely on gambling for regular source of income.
 Such consistent win rate is unlikely on probability based gambling.

I have done it in a course of  5 days on Dice games, and the results vary, you really cannot employ one method to win in gambling, all these experiments are useless because it is gambling and one results vary from one another on the course of 5 days, so you will end up that there's really no one single formula that can do that.

Never have done that because i know i'll fail miserably if i try to experiment to win big, i always keep on mind that no matter have
you do a lost is a lost and you can't compensate on that, so i expirementing on winning or getting a higher percentage is a no no for me,
i guess people with lots of funds do that, but, not recommended specially with dealing with the money, you should be careful experimenting
because a small mistake once done can't be undone in the end

I didn't take any notes of my daily forecasts, nor did I follow them weekly or monthly. Generally, my goal is not to make money while gambling is fun because I do not follow in such a detailed process or analysis. I do not think that I will get a very successful result as a percentage because I prefer high odds especially when I make sports bets. When I gamble, I only look at my winnings, if my winnings are high enough to satisfy me, then I withdraw the money. The adventure that starts with fun, if it turns into a good profit, I never continue to spend that money. Rather than looking at games or bets as a percentage or doing analysis, I give importance to the percentage of money I earn.

It is better to play safely in gambling, so we don't have to lose all of the money in one day. It is not recommended to use or try with experimenting if we don't have big money because sometimes, to try those experiments will cost some money, which we don't know if we will win or not. Yes, we should be careful when we risk the money, especially if you want to do those experiments. If you have big funds, then it might be worth to try your experiment.

that's it,losing a lot in one day means we are not in control of our self in gambling.
not unless there have allocated money for the trial and testing so nothings wrong i guess because there is no gains without a risk.
or maybe we can find sponsor that is willing to risk about the experiment so if its good he will profit and if not?so he lose lol

Using this method you will lose a big amount of your money in this experiment and it is not worth it since you were only having 10 bets,
I'm an IT student and algorithms and codes in a game like this could easily be altered or change also could easily be cheated.
Making or using this method could not have the precise answer , the analysis is not going to be accurate at all since winning could be random at all.

If you read about the history of gambling you will see that there were a few people that came up with methods to beat the casinos, the problem like always is that casinos are aware of that and adjust the rules of their games so that method is no longer possible or it becomes really difficult, this is the case with one of the most famous methods to beat the casinos which is card counting in blackjack, the casinos could not stop people from card counting however they added many decks to blackjack and in the case someone was caught card counting he was accused of cheating.

I always try with that way, so I can still playing gambling with controlling myself.


We can do that but if we have more money to be allocated to the experiment because we will try one by one and sometimes, we need to try more than 10 times to see if that is work or not.


Searching for the sponsor will be a great idea, but I don't think that we can find that sponsor easy as its say. I don't believe that the sponsor will want to see the loss of our experiment.

yups there is no other way to play gambling as to enjoy and not to profit.(but of course that is part of the motive when playing yet dont expect as failure will surely follow)
experimenting is only for those who has capital just like what you said and this is not advisable to anyone specially those who has limited resources.

I believe it so. No magic trick in gambling but it is all about luck in winning.
If we put 10 bets in a day and we win on the last 2 bets, it doesn't mean that it would be the same for the next batch. Definitely, we can't calculate our percentage of winning gambling cause it is really impossible to happen, even experts could never think about it. 

You are only wasting your time if one is seriously calculating the winning percentage.
There is no definite math formula for this as gambling is based mostly on luck.
Sports betting and poker are games that are not entirely relying on luck, but also skills and knowledge.
Others, you are playing with luck. So no, I haven't done any experiment of determining my winning chance ever.

LOL. I remember when I was still new. I thought there will be pattern in dice about the next result. So i'm listing down the numbers/results every roll and doing some mathematics thing. After some try I gave up on that kind of shit. Ended up thinking i'm a fool for doing this kind thing because the result is completely random. How come there will be pattern. LOL. Well, of course I've done this out of curiosity since I was just new.

Totally agree, writing some info does help you if you did analyze the data carefully if it's about sports betting. I did record my bets before but It only make me sad a little bit since the data I got about my winning percentage is very small even though you write it on a paper or using spreadsheet still not helping me to win in luck based games.

I've also done that too and it was funny, for being so desperate in winning in gambling. I've also tried to analyze how random it is, like if I win the first roll and lose in the next one, the next roll will probably a mess also, and sometimes it is correct, sometimes it is not, so you never knew what roll you are going to win and bet big to win big. The house edge is very unpredictable which is pretty annoying if you lost too much money on it in a day.

I am afraid that 10 bets in gambling in a day will not give a big chance for us to win because when we play gambling itself needs luck, which we don't know when it will come. So no matter how hard we try, it still difficult to win in gambling. And for experimenting with the gambling will need more money because we cannot expect to see the higher chance of winning in one or two times of the experiment. Perhaps, we can see a little sign to have the percentage after we try to place more than 5 or 7 bets.

Sounds weird and funny, being desperate and want to win in gambling sounds very greedy to me. How can you enjoy every game if you write it down and instead you are enjoying a gamble, you make your mind blown up and thinking it too much? Just enjoy it and don't think too much how much the percentage of winning. Something like you are buying liquor and foods just to have fun, gambling also likes that, if you need to spend that you can afford to lose, why not.

I have tried experimenting with my bets in online gambling sites, but I don't write the results in a paper. I use Microsoft Excel to compile all the results that I have. So what I get is:

• Start of the Balance
• End of the Balance
• Date of Start
• End Date
• Multipliers
• Different variables

So basically, I summarized my results and tried to extrapolate the best parameters to have in a Dice Game. So everything that I'm talking about is what I get in a dice bot using Seuntjie Dice bot [1] (https://bot.seuntjie.com/). The results will determine the best technique I've gotten. Mostly, I have done this over a 24-hour rule. Every day that I get results, instantly put it in the file.

Or maybe this is how determined they are to win the game.
I think they can enjoy the game by analyzing it. Since they can record every detail of the game just to maximize their chances of winning.
But you are right, instead of enjoying it by going with the flow of the game, they take it more seriously and in the end, their analyzation will not be working since it is not accurate at all.

Yes. I have done experimenting to determine the chances of winning in gambling, especially when i am playing a betting game and color game because it is really effective, that is why i often double my profit when i always used mathematical equations such as probability to predict the outcomes of my bet.

I think we have all went through something similar, at first it may seem so easy to make money by gambling that you try to dedicate a lot of time to try to find a pattern in the results that you are getting, but it isn't until you realize that the games are truly random and that there is the house edge that you understand that what you're doing is useless, however I still consider that to be a good exercise because at least it allows you to really understand the nature of the games and the impossibility to beat them.

How about experimenting on multiple gambling sites. Experimenting in this case would be playing with bonuses on multiple sites to "increase"  your chances of winning something. More bonuses could increase ones chance, unfortunately, you don't get bonuses regularly

That could be done, but I think in every gambling sites have their calculation or script that can be different between the other website. We need to modify our strategy or experiment, and we need to adjust it for every gambling site. The positive from this is we can try the test with the bonuses that be given by the website. We don't have to send the coin to every gambling site. The problem is we need to know or familiar with the gambling site method so we can adjust to what we want, and we cannot get the bonuses regularly.

I see, the way to execute this is through having funds specifically allocated to test the market to determine the percentage of winnings or the bonuses that we could get on a particular gambling platform. In these case, I think using multiple accounts to test would be good.

Anyways, I realized that the real fun in gambling comes when you are winning with purely luck. Not really determining the winning percentage to always win in every bet.

The persons behind the casinos are very smart people, you can receive bonuses from time to time but they come with restrictions about the number of times that you need to use that bonus before you can withdraw your money and I'm pretty sure that they know that even if they are giving money away to their players by giving those restrictions most people are going to lose that bonus and even more money if they keep playing, then to me this doesn't look like a legitimate strategy to try to increase your chances of winning.