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Continued from this post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5219569.msg53672379#msg53672379) to avoid derailing that topic further.

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No, there's more to it than that. For example:

I do not pay anyone to trust or distrust anyone else. This ability of yours to see conspiracies where none exist is a large part of why I distrust your judgement.

As I said before, it's nothing personal, and I don't really understand why you insist on making it personal.

I'll move my post here too:

Although slightly off-topic here, I want to correct this misunderstanding: excluding someone from your Trust list can mean you 1. distrust their judgement on their Trust list, 2. distrust their judgement in their sent feedback, or 3. both.

This is really a wasp nest: it's virtually impossible to agree (or disagree) on someone's entire Trust list and all their sent feedback, so it's usually a compromise. It's probably best not to take this personally.

This and this. I don't really trust him because of his often widely inaccurate feedback he leaves and the logic he usually arrives at to justify leaving a lot of it, but he does loves his conspiracy theories once someone distrusts him and it can't just be because of his behaviour but there needs to be a conspiracy or other reason why you're against him. He of course invented his own little theory after I distrusted him and he accused me of being Quickseller several times, and by his recent behaviour he probably still thinks that or at least has some suspicion.

Oh crap... It turns out I'm being subliminally forced to do all these dirty things for Foxpup. I knew this avatar deal was too good to be true.

o_e_l_e_o, get out while you still can. LoyceV is too far gone.

I'm not being forced at all. I do them willingly. ;)

That's all you can muster is four replies in three days?

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Four of five posters are in the chipmixer signature campaign - $24 worth of posts @ $6 per post.

Four of five posters carry the same profile pic (paid for by the OP) (how much is that I wonder?).

Four out of the five of you good people on DT distrust me.

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Who else thinks this is very mature of the OP?


Neither do I...

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Carry on.  ::)

The uniforms add to the drama..

What was that you just said in the other thread - you're not involved?

Carry on.  ::)

I didn't create this thread to muster replies from people who agree with me. I created this thread so that you could reply without risk of your replies being deleted because they were off-topic in the original thread (no doubt you'd find a way to blame that on me as well).

I know nothing about the ChipMixer campaign, other than that they seem to hold their members to the same high standard that I do.

They don't get paid per post (I'm against such campaigns, contributing as they do to forum spam), but rather a flat weekly or monthly rate, negotiated on an individual basis, and averaging $120 per week.

I don't control who they trust or distrust. For example, you earlier brought up my distrust of actmyname, even though he is trusted by everyone in my avatar campaign. ??? I really have no idea why they trust someone I distrust, but that's okay, because I also don't particularly care.

I try to distrust all known and proven alts of users I distrust, and I only recently found out about yours. Had I known about your alt earlier, I would have distrusted it earlier. What's immature about that? Have you any other alts I need to distrust while I'm at it?

For the record: I removed (http://loyce.club/trust/2019-10-12_Sat_06.11h/459836.html) him from my Trust list last October, because I don't want to endorse the empty negative feedback (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=465017) he left. That still doesn't mean I don't trust his judgement, it's just the compromise I mentioned earlier.

Sorry, I guess I haven't been keeping close track of such things (thus proving my earlier point about not caring who you trust).

I can pretty much guarantee DarkStar_ will not count any of the above posts as substantial enough to warrant payment. My post was (deliberately) less than 100 character minimum. Regardless, all of us are well above the 50 post maximum, so they wouldn't be counted anyway.

If at any point Foxpup tried to use said avatar deal to manipulate my trust list or ratings, not only would I remove said avatar but I'd likely also open a scam accusation against him for trying to buy trust.

I don't distrust you yet, but your frivolous ratings on Foxpup and hilarious' trust pages which I've just been made aware of are making a pretty strong case for it. If and when I do distrust you, know that I reached that decision entirely of my own volition.

And for the record, if I distrust you I will also distrust your alt: I'm distrusting you as a person, not the specific account you happen to be using at the time. I'd call that "common sense" rather than "immature".

Foxup enjoys wanking everyday thats why she forgot to reply to the thread,she cant catchup which is why she created this thread.

I do indeed enjoy wanking every day, and recommend that you try it; it helps clear the mind, which will allow you to see that I had little to say in the original thread because that thread is not about me, and that Timelord2067's attempts to make it about me were off-topic, hence why I created this thread.

Incidentally, my multifarious sexual proclivities are likewise off-topic in this thread, so please create a new thread if you wish to discuss them further. :)

Pardon?

On which date did you...

...any of you contact me to air your concerns?

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And are you really expecting me to troll/lurk in other people's threads and trust/feedback posts in-case they *might* give a questionable post?

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o_e_l_e_o perhaps you should go back and actually *read* what has been left on hilarious' trust wall/feedback...  He makes a claim against me, yet offers no proof - and you're going to give me negative on that basis? I'm really quaking in my boots.

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Carry on.

I usually don't contact people before making changes to my Trust list, but if you check the links in my previous post, you'll see it's not about you.

You say that the claim that you think he is Quickseller is FUD, and then end your feedback asking him why he keeps acting like Quickseller. You honestly don't see the issue there? You also seem angered that he offers no proof, and then you immediately make a claim about him and yet offer no proof. I also never said I was going to give you negative trust.

Timelord2067 has his own lingo for trust lists and ratings, which is irritating AF. I think he calls trust ratings a "wall", and exclusion == negative, or something like that - I can't keep up.

In misquoting me you have managed to trim off the last three words of the feedback.

"Let it go."

Without provocation hilarious has come on to "remind everyone" what he claims I said, yet even now offers no proof.

In much the same way quickseller's "pill addiction" or "collusion to defraud" or similar threads just keep getting bumped long after everyone else agrees the issue has passed.

No proof offered by Hilarious and you didn't ask him to prove his claim.

Let it go.

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Carry on.

So neither Foxpup nor hilarious leave you a rating, you give both of them a frivolous rating complaining about FUD in return (including this topic, which is categorically not FUD and simply a statement of facts), and then complain that people aren't "letting it go".

That's some peculiar logic, I must say.

By trusting actmyname, Foxpup gave me negative trust.

When Foxpup was asked by me why he gave me negative trust he went all Butt Hurt ^TM and amongst other things started this thread.  His reaction showed he is untrustworthy and so I reluctantly gave him negative trust.  (Check this (http://loyce.club/trust/ranking/131361.html) if you don't believe I didn't just give him retaliatory negative trust)

Today Foxpup slipped from DT1 (0) (https://archive.vn/NMvIi#selection-609.0-621.107) to DT1 (-1) (https://archive.vn/NMvIi#selection-379.0-481.3).  (interestingly all of that trust/distrust Foxpup did at that time seems to have disappeared from the BPIP site)

I'd like to think I had a hand in his downfall.

To prove a point, I removed my distrust to bring him back to DT1 (0) then slap him down to DT1 (-1) once again.

https://talkimg.com/images/2023/05/16/blobc7e3ce1201206a61.jpeg

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Just in case anyone missed seeing this post elsewhere, I'll leave you with this parting shot:

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Time to let it go and lock this thread.

What are you even talking about?

Truly, you have the maturity and detachment of a wizened sage on a mountaintop somewhere.

Cause and effect - whatever your grudge is against actmyname - let it go, it's burning you up.

Next.

I don't hold a grudge against actmyname (or even against you, for that matter), and in any case that doesn't answer my question:

I say again: what trust/distrust did I allegedly do at that time that seems to have disappeared from the BPIP site? ???

It would really help the conversation if you use the correct terms. I know it doesn't help that the forum calls everything "trust", but you can improve on that by using this:

I think you mean to say Foxpup excluded you from his Trust list because you added actmyname to your Trust list. Nobody gave anyone negative feedback for any of this. If this is correct, I understood what you meant (but it wasn't easy).

I am a new beneficiary of Foxpup's generosity and thus I'm wearing his avatar--and since I love bicycling I'm actually fond of his design.  But no part of the deal included fellating any part of Foxpup nor adjusting my trust list to reflect his own opinions. 

I agree with hilariousandco that Timelord2067 has made some wild accusations in the past, but he's also made some good connections as well.  I've always had the feeling that he might be a wee bit autistic or have some odd structural thing in his noodle that causes him to be quite left of center--and no offense intended, Timelord2067.  There are many strange birds in the forest and there's room for them all.

Also, the coincidences as far as Timelord2067 being untrusted and members wearing the Chipmixer and/or Foxpup's merit cycling team avatar are just that, coincidences.  There are a bunch of us Meta hounds who tend to share similar views on things, and that's been an ongoing thing for at least a couple of years.  There's no conspiracy that I know of--or if there is, I haven't been invited to participate (yet).

This is me rolling my eyes @_@

Another drum being banged in something close to but not quite in unison... Most of you have the music sheet upside down or facing 'round the wrong way.

I might have lightly tapped the drum with a couple of fingers, but I certainly did not bang it.  The tone of my last post was meant to be un-hostile toward you, but sometimes there's no way to get the vibe of what was meant just by the written word alone. 

You're not ~'ed on my trust list, and I'm not considering doing so.  Nor am I against you.  We've done deals together and we've exchanged a few PMs in the past.  I have no beef with you, believe me.

There is a bit of an issue with Bitcointalk's real-time trust lists which aren't quite real-time. When someone gets added to DT1, often they show up on

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;dtview (DT1 list)

before they show up on

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;dt;full (DT2 list)

Which makes BPIP see all inclusions/exclusions of that person as new so they appear on

https://bpip.org/r/dt1changes.aspx

as new "trusts" or "distrusts" entries. It's annoying AF and I have a script to clean it up when it happens... I bet that's what Timelord2067 saw and made up a conspiracy theory about it.

Agreed we are ok with each other.

What I'm talking about is that there is this mantra that somehow my connections are wrong, but when asked where I have supposed to have got it wrong no one can quite put their finger on where I am wrong.

When asked why Foxpup went straight to distrust on the DT when we had never interacted - he became evasive and within days started this thread.

Foxpup is manufacturing FUD simply to attack me because he distrusts actmyname.

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Archive [1a (https://archive.vn/ZwxAr#selection-4597.40-4597.107)], [1b (https://web.archive.org/web/20200314215115/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5219781.msg54024821%23msg54024821)]


Conspiracy? No.  

Disappeared? Yes.

Thank you for confirming it happened.

As I said before, the purpose of this thread is to answer your questions which were off-topic in the thread you originally posted them in. I don't see how that's "evasive".

Continuing the theme of repeating myself, it's got nothing whatsoever to do with actmyname.

Knock this shit off. This:


DIDN'T HAPPEN and I just explained why. Stop fucking around with the things I say, it's not funny anymore.

Well asshole, we'll be up to the third page soon enough and you're now going to rewrite history?  Enlighten us as to why you never just answered my question days weeks ago.

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It's been happening yet again:

https://talkimg.com/images/2023/05/16/blobe5ab365bcef7f4f2.jpeg

https://talkimg.com/images/2023/05/16/blob2ef312a1f0bc111b.jpeg

Pages of it.

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Neither of you have any cards left to play - you both distrusted me, so you have nothing left in your arsenal.

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OK, you claim this automated - yes?

How did this happen:

https://talkimg.com/images/2023/05/16/blob743ed81de443ac68.jpeg

Foxpup went on the record as distrusting my mobile alt:


Yet where is the main alt in the above pic?

If that's automated, why out of all of Foxpup's trusts and distrusts is my main alt not in the list?

Take your time - I'm in no hurry.

I did answer your questions days weeks ago. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5219781.msg53696818#msg53696818) It's not my fault if you don't like the answers.

As suchmoon already explained (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5219781.msg54024821#msg54024821), it's a glitch that happens every time someone moves on or off DT1. And I'm back on DT1, bitches. 8)

I'd just edited my previous post, you may not have seen it, so I'll ask again:

I didn't, sorry. A quick glance reveals there are 173 entries glitched into existence on https://bpip.org/r/dt1changes.aspx (https://bpip.org/r/dt1changes.aspx), yet my trust list actually contains 201 200 entries. Yours is one of 28 27 trust list entries that didn't get caught up in this glitch, for whatever reason. (And no, the reason is not that I'm conspiring with the other 27 26.)

As with Suchmoon I'll slap you down on that one as well:


So thank you to both Suchmoon and Foxpup for confirming that it happened.  

On closer inspection, it appears the real reason is that all of the 27 (not 28; I miscounted earlier) missing entries are also on DT1. That's why your alt is there but your main account isn't. No conspiracy.

What part of:


Are you having trouble understanding?

I already explained how. Let me know which parts of the following are unclear to you and I'll do my best to clarify it unless you want to continue playing a blithering idiot.

Probably a good time to clear my name quickly over a little something (https://www.google.com/search?q=%22Foxpup%27s+Merit+Cycling+Conspiracy%22+site%3Abitcointalk.org&oq=%22Foxpup%27s+Merit+Cycling+Conspiracy%22+site%3Abitcointalk.org&aqs=chrome..69i57.5469j0j1&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8), given the nature of this topic:


This was intended as a joke, tongue in cheek as it were, I feel it's aged well :P
For the record: I don't believe there is any conspiracy (http://loyce.club/trust/2020-03-14_Sat_05.07h/1170966.html).

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In case there are any fresh misunderstandings from the above;

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There you go page 3, with a little history re-written too :)

Yeah Timelord, its only funny when Suchmoon does it!

[quote author=Foxpup link=topic=5219781.msg54030042#msg54030042 date=1584232780]
And I'm back on DT1, bitches. 8)
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Well... not quite...

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Last month you were [size=15pt]-1[/size] this month your are [size=15pt]-2[/size].

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You don't understand how DT1 works.  Like me, you are on DT1 - you just can't vote others onto DT2.  It's not up to you whether or not you are on DT1. Your pockets just aren't that deep.