Re: Timelord2067 vs Foxpup

[Timelord2067]

By trusting actmyname, Foxpup gave me negative trust.

When Foxpup was asked by me why he gave me negative trust he went all Butt Hurt ^TM and amongst other things started this thread.  His reaction showed he is untrustworthy and so I reluctantly gave him negative trust.  (Check this if you don't believe I didn't just give him retaliatory negative trust)

Today Foxpup slipped from DT1 (0) to DT1 (-1).  (interestingly all of that trust/distrust Foxpup did at that time seems to have disappeared from the BPIP site)

I'd like to think I had a hand in his downfall.

To prove a point, I removed my distrust to bring him back to DT1 (0) then slap him down to DT1 (-1) once again.




Just in case anyone missed seeing this post elsewhere, I'll leave you with this parting shot:

I trust actmyname! (and foxpup distrusts me for that reason!)

Whatever. Just don't get mad at me when I refuse to start trusting you if/when you spontaneously decide to distrust actmyname because you linked him to some nefarious conspiracy that exists only in your own mind.

The ones taking your money to wear your avatar - they're the imaginary "friends"...

Time to let it go and lock this thread.

[Foxpup]

(interestingly all of that trust/distrust Foxpup did at that time seems to have disappeared from the BPIP site)

What are you even talking about?

I'd like to think I had a hand in his downfall.

To prove a point, I removed my distrust to bring him back to DT1 (0) then slap him down to DT1 (-1) once again.

Truly, you have the maturity and detachment of a wizened sage on a mountaintop somewhere.

[Timelord2067]

...

Cause and effect - whatever your grudge is against actmyname - let it go, it's burning you up.

Next.

[Foxpup]

Cause and effect - whatever your grudge is against actmyname - let it go, it's burning you up.

I don't hold a grudge against actmyname (or even against you, for that matter), and in any case that doesn't answer my question:

(interestingly all of that trust/distrust Foxpup did at that time seems to have disappeared from the BPIP site)

What are you even talking about?

I say again: what trust/distrust did I allegedly do at that time that seems to have disappeared from the BPIP site?

[LoyceV]

By trusting actmyname, Foxpup gave me negative trust.

When Foxpup was asked by me why he gave me negative trust he went all Butt Hurt ^TM and amongst other things started this thread.  His reaction showed he is untrustworthy and so I reluctantly gave him negative trust.

It would really help the conversation if you use the correct terms. I know it doesn't help that the forum calls everything "trust", but you can improve on that by using this:

Don't confuse your Trust list with feedback
Trust feedback: leave feedback to people you trust or don't trust. Or leave neutral comments.
Trust list: a list of people who's judgement on others you trust (username) or don't trust (~username)

I think you mean to say Foxpup excluded you from his Trust list because you added actmyname to your Trust list. Nobody gave anyone negative feedback for any of this. If this is correct, I understood what you meant (but it wasn't easy).

[The Sceptical Chymist]

I knew this avatar deal was too good to be true.

I am a new beneficiary of Foxpup's generosity and thus I'm wearing his avatar--and since I love bicycling I'm actually fond of his design.  But no part of the deal included fellating any part of Foxpup nor adjusting my trust list to reflect his own opinions. 

I agree with hilariousandco that Timelord2067 has made some wild accusations in the past, but he's also made some good connections as well.  I've always had the feeling that he might be a wee bit autistic or have some odd structural thing in his noodle that causes him to be quite left of center--and no offense intended, Timelord2067.  There are many strange birds in the forest and there's room for them all.

Also, the coincidences as far as Timelord2067 being untrusted and members wearing the Chipmixer and/or Foxpup's merit cycling team avatar are just that, coincidences.  There are a bunch of us Meta hounds who tend to share similar views on things, and that's been an ongoing thing for at least a couple of years.  There's no conspiracy that I know of--or if there is, I haven't been invited to participate (yet).

[Timelord2067]

I agree with hilariousandco that Timelord2067 has made some wild accusations in the past,

This is me rolling my eyes @_@

Another drum being banged in something close to but not quite in unison... Most of you have the music sheet upside down or facing 'round the wrong way.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

Another drum being banged in something close to but not quite in unison...

I might have lightly tapped the drum with a couple of fingers, but I certainly did not bang it.  The tone of my last post was meant to be un-hostile toward you, but sometimes there's no way to get the vibe of what was meant just by the written word alone. 

You're not ~'ed on my trust list, and I'm not considering doing so.  Nor am I against you.  We've done deals together and we've exchanged a few PMs in the past.  I have no beef with you, believe me.

[suchmoon]

I say again: what trust/distrust did I allegedly do at that time that seems to have disappeared from the BPIP site?

There is a bit of an issue with Bitcointalk's real-time trust lists which aren't quite real-time. When someone gets added to DT1, often they show up on

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;dtview (DT1 list)

before they show up on

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;dt;full (DT2 list)

Which makes BPIP see all inclusions/exclusions of that person as new so they appear on

https://bpip.org/r/dt1changes.aspx

as new "trusts" or "distrusts" entries. It's annoying AF and I have a script to clean it up when it happens... I bet that's what Timelord2067 saw and made up a conspiracy theory about it.

[Timelord2067]

Another drum being banged in something close to but not quite in unison...

I might have lightly tapped the drum with a couple of fingers, but I certainly did not bang it.  The tone of my last post was meant to be un-hostile toward you, but sometimes there's no way to get the vibe of what was meant just by the written word alone.  

You're not ~'ed on my trust list, and I'm not considering doing so.  Nor am I against you.  We've done deals together and we've exchanged a few PMs in the past.  I have no beef with you, believe me.

Agreed we are ok with each other.

What I'm talking about is that there is this mantra that somehow my connections are wrong, but when asked where I have supposed to have got it wrong no one can quite put their finger on where I am wrong.

When asked why Foxpup went straight to distrust on the DT when we had never interacted - he became evasive and within days started this thread.

Foxpup is manufacturing FUD simply to attack me because he distrusts actmyname.

I say again: what trust/distrust did I allegedly do at that time that seems to have disappeared from the BPIP site?

Archive [1a], [1b]

There is a bit of an issue with Bitcointalk's real-time trust lists
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I bet that's what Timelord2067 saw and made up a conspiracy theory about it.[/s]

Conspiracy? No.  

Disappeared? Yes.

Thank you for confirming it happened.

[Foxpup]

When asked why Foxpup went straight to distrust on the DT when we had never interacted - he became evasive and within days started this thread.

As I said before, the purpose of this thread is to answer your questions which were off-topic in the thread you originally posted them in. I don't see how that's "evasive".

Foxpup is manufacturing FUD simply to attack me because he distrusts actmyname.

Continuing the theme of repeating myself, it's got nothing whatsoever to do with actmyname.

[suchmoon]

Thank you for confirming it happened.

Knock this shit off. This:

all of that trust/distrust Foxpup did at that time

DIDN'T HAPPEN and I just explained why. Stop fucking around with the things I say, it's not funny anymore.

[Timelord2067]

... it's got nothing whatsoever to do with actmyname.

Well asshole, we'll be up to the third page soon enough and you're now going to rewrite history?  Enlighten us as to why you never just answered my question days weeks ago.

Thank you for confirming it happened.

Knock this shit off. This:

all of that trust/distrust Foxpup did at that time

DIDN'T HAPPEN and I just explained why. Stop fucking around with the things I say, it's not funny anymore.

It's been happening yet again:





Pages of it.


Neither of you have any cards left to play - you both distrusted me, so you have nothing left in your arsenal.

Stop fucking around with the things I say, it's not funny anymore.

OK, you claim this automated - yes?

How did this happen:



Foxpup went on the record as distrusting my mobile alt:

Trust list for: Timelord2o67 (Trust: neutral) (11 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP) (created 2020-03-14_Sat_05.07h)
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Timelord2o67 Trusts these users' judgement:
-

Timelord2o67 Distrusts these users' judgement:
-


Timelord2o67's judgement is Trusted by:
1. Timelord2067 (Trust: +8 / =4 / -1) (DT1 (-12) 363 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

~Timelord2o67's judgement is Distrusted by:
1. Foxpup (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (DT1 (-1) 871 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)


Source: LoyceV's Trust list viewer.
Get your own Trust list in BBCode at loyce.club/trust.

Yet where is the main alt in the above pic?

If that's automated, why out of all of Foxpup's trusts and distrusts is my main alt not in the list?

Take your time - I'm in no hurry.

[Foxpup]

Well asshole, we'll be up to the third page soon enough and you're now going to rewrite history?  Enlighten us as to why you never just answered my question days weeks ago.

I did answer your questions days weeks ago. It's not my fault if you don't like the answers.

It's been happening yet again:

As suchmoon already explained, it's a glitch that happens every time someone moves on or off DT1. And I'm back on DT1, bitches.

[Timelord2067]

...

I'd just edited my previous post, you may not have seen it, so I'll ask again:

OK, you claim this automated - yes?

How did this happen:



Foxpup went on the record as distrusting my mobile alt:

Trust list for: Timelord2o67 (Trust: neutral) (11 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP) (created 2020-03-14_Sat_05.07h)
Back to index

Timelord2o67 Trusts these users' judgement:
-

Timelord2o67 Distrusts these users' judgement:
-


Timelord2o67's judgement is Trusted by:
1. Timelord2067 (Trust: +8 / =4 / -1) (DT1 (-12) 363 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)

~Timelord2o67's judgement is Distrusted by:
1. Foxpup (Trust: +3 / =0 / -0) (DT1 (-1) 871 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP)


Source: LoyceV's Trust list viewer.
Get your own Trust list in BBCode at loyce.club/trust.

Yet where is the main alt in the above pic?

If that's automated, why out of all of Foxpup's trusts and distrusts is my main alt not in the list?

Take your time - I'm in no hurry.

[Foxpup]

I'd just edited my previous post, you may not have seen it, so I'll ask again:

I didn't, sorry. A quick glance reveals there are 173 entries glitched into existence on https://bpip.org/r/dt1changes.aspx, yet my trust list actually contains 201 200 entries. Yours is one of 28 27 trust list entries that didn't get caught up in this glitch, for whatever reason. (And no, the reason is not that I'm conspiring with the other 27 26.)

[Timelord2067]

I'd just edited my previous post, you may not have seen it, so I'll ask again:

I didn't, sorry. A quick glance reveals there are 173 entries glitched into existence on https://bpip.org/r/dt1changes.aspx, yet my trust list actually contains 201 entries. Yours is one of 28 trust list entries that didn't get caught up in this glitch, for whatever reason. (And no, the reason is not that I'm conspiring with the other 27.)

As with Suchmoon I'll slap you down on that one as well:

Conspiracy? No.  

Disappeared? Yes.

Thank you for confirming it happened.

So thank you to both Suchmoon and Foxpup for confirming that it happened.  

(See you all in about 36 hours)

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[Foxpup]

On closer inspection, it appears the real reason is that all of the 27 (not 28; I miscounted earlier) missing entries are also on DT1. That's why your alt is there but your main account isn't. No conspiracy.

[Timelord2067]

No conspiracy.

What part of:

Conspiracy? No.  

Disappeared? Yes.

Thank you for confirming it happened.

Are you having trouble understanding?

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[suchmoon]

How did this happen:

I already explained how. Let me know which parts of the following are unclear to you and I'll do my best to clarify it unless you want to continue playing a blithering idiot.

There is a bit of an issue with Bitcointalk's real-time trust lists which aren't quite real-time. When someone gets added to DT1, often they show up on

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;dtview (DT1 list)

before they show up on

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;dt;full (DT2 list)

Which makes BPIP see all inclusions/exclusions of that person as new so they appear on

https://bpip.org/r/dt1changes.aspx

as new "trusts" or "distrusts" entries. It's annoying AF and I have a script to clean it up when it happens...