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Hello Guys and sorry for this late update!   :)

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Premises:

Titans thread has just been re-opened and updated, no "bad" news so far.
Neptunes updates are being dispatched only via PM (since months), not publicly, also due to the complexity of the Neptunes situation and to legal reasons once at this point.
Please, don't mix the two classes/kinds of machines/orders/situations, also in order to avoid confusion and misunderstandings.

ANYONE who contacted us via PM got updates on a regular basis (except who wrote during our holidays).

We are suffering like you from an huge damage and we are taking huge risks too since a long time... however, we're here with a positive spirit, trying to do our best to mitigate such damage and keep in balance above other user's useless madness... it's really stressing as you can easily guess...

blame KfC, not us, for what is happening...


Thank you for reading and Cheers!
-akw-
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UPDATES (11-09-2014) NEW SHARES:

KfC announced today the incoming Titan shipping (starting from the next week), you can find the original news here: https://www.kncminer.com/news/news-106

In the interest of this group buy and its success, we have to get ready to receive the miners and prepare for having them fully operational.

we need to fund the buying of the necessary PSU units and to pay for the VAT that was suspended when we paid the machines (we hoped for a better btc/$ change...).

Two addresses will be written below where to collect the bitcoins for these "operations"

The amount of the VAT is 22% so, 2 X (9995 X 22%) = 2 X 2198.9 = 4397.8 $ total

The amount for the PSUs is 260 $ each so, 4 X 260 = 1040 $ total

The PSUs should cover at least 1100W per machine (4 cubes each) and let us some room for overclocking them. We thought about 2 X corsair AX860i per each machine, such PSUs, very efficient ones, have good protections against "electrical issues" and fire hazards, a lot of PCI-E connectors and will let enough room for overclocking. We are able to find each AX860i @ 198€ or 260$ shipped, new and with guarantee.

Using a "fixed" exchange rate @ 480$/BTC, the above amount are:

4398 / 480 = 9.17 BTC

1040 / 480 = 2.17 BTC

so, in order to cover the above expenses, we are emitting 131 + 31 NEW shares @ 0.07 BTC each

VAT = 9.17 = 0.07 X 131 shares

PSUs = 2.17 = 0.07 X 31 shares

VAT SHARES address: 12jhhmdLmaP9Lrc7TMzYPzQXDjfT2h8sG2

PSUs SHARES address: 1Jhjq14BmhuofDQtvbbDfiDwmhKEHRodS2


AVAILABLE VAT SHARES   131/131

AVAILABLE PSUs SHARES   31/31


Payment Instructions:
Please, send your payments to the above addresses and reply in this topic with your username, the address you control (and can sign messages from) from where you sent payment , the number of share purchased and the TxID.

Example:
Thank You!

Here you can check payments live:
http://blockchain.info/address/12jhhmdLmaP9Lrc7TMzYPzQXDjfT2h8sG2?show_adv=true
http://blockchain.info/address/1Jhjq14BmhuofDQtvbbDfiDwmhKEHRodS2?show_adv=true


Confirmed Payments Details are in #2 post of this topic!





UPDATES (09-09-2014):

Titans orders are NOT refundable, we just checked for the nth time, absolutely and unfortunately there's no hope to get a refund.

Titans orders are not transferable to other KfC users.

At this point, GaW miners discount seems simply aa aggressive marketing operation...

We expect KfC to start shipping batch1 during this month (end of Q3) and we strongly hope that they wouldn't adopt the same behavior seen during Neptunes shipping.

We have to buy the PSUs for our machines!

We have to be ready to pay the VAT that was suspended when buying, as the machines will be delivered (22%)!

This post will be updated shortly with the directions for the funds collection. (since the huge damage occurred/occurring, this time we can't anticipate the required amounts, sorry...)

Suggestions are welcome and appreciated!


Thank you for reading and for your patience!
Cheers!
-akw-









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VAT SHARES address:   12jhhmdLmaP9Lrc7TMzYPzQXDjfT2h8sG2

PSU SHARES address:   1Jhjq14BmhuofDQtvbbDfiDwmhKEHRodS2


Payment Instructions:
Please, send your payments to the above addresses and reply in this topic with your username, the address you control (and can sign messages from) from where you sent payment , the number of share purchased and the TxID.

Example:
Thank You!

Here you can check payments live:
http://blockchain.info/address/12jhhmdLmaP9Lrc7TMzYPzQXDjfT2h8sG2?show_adv=true
http://blockchain.info/address/1Jhjq14BmhuofDQtvbbDfiDwmhKEHRodS2?show_adv=true


Confirmed Payments Details are in #2 post of this topic!

We are using here a fixed BTC/USD exchange of 500$/BTC, in order to fix a reference in the short time this GB will take to be complete.

Then, a result of more than necessary amount will be re-distributed proportionally between shares OR a less amount will be covered by extending shares numbers of a few or in another clear way like someone that anticipate them and recover from first the dividend (+ maybe a little fee for service). Everything as usual!

*Dollars are used only as fixed reference as KNC does, we have to think only in bitcoins, as natural...!

**Even if we would like to limit shares fragmentation, this little-size shares splitting is in order to allow pretty anyone to join, without necessary having to invest a big capital.


Please, feel free to share your thoughts here or to start to make your reservations!

Post your questions/comments in this thread so the answers may be useful for other Forum's members!  :)


This group buy and the consequent TITAN sharing will be managed in the clearest way possible and with an extreme care about personal privacy.

The TITAN will be hosted in our mining farm with full equipment and optionals like air conditioning, business level electricity contract, hardware firewalls, continuous surveillance and expert maintenance if needed. We can also setup a webcam in private streaming if you prefer. Basically this new mining hardware will share ALL our mining farm facilities... you can find details in Neptune's thread while I'll copy here too! ;)

The electricity cost estimate will be released as soon as KNC will reveal additional specifications.

The dividend of the shares is obviously at net of fix costs like electricity and proven and needed maintenance maybe.

The ownership of shares will be noted (beyond this topic) on a shared (private) google spreadsheet too, in full respect of privacy, in order to better organize and manage informations and to better keep track of changes.

When you will perform the payment, be careful to ONLY use sending addresses you fully control. We will use the sending address for BTC payouts for your shares ownership and if you request change of payout address I will require that you can sign your share purchase address to make this happen OR I WILL NOT CHANGE THE RECEIVING ADDRESS. This is for your own protection.

[for shareholders will be possible to pay for fix costs (like electricity) via SEPA/bank if they want, in order to save some crypto juice for example!]


The sooner we'll complete this order, the sooner we'll order another one (the second order is ready!)!


Thanks for reading, better infos & updates will follow soon, please have patience! :)

Regards,
anykeywhy



ADDITIONAL INFOS:

- electricity cost here is of about 0.2€ kW/h  (with business contract)

- we are in the same time-zone of KnCminer =>> faster/immediate/next-day assistance/RMA/support

- top-level staff, equipment & hosting services included

- mining farm resource-sharing will maximize your net gain/profit

- transparent management

- NO hidden costs - NO extra fees

- full b2b & b2p connection if needed (eg. SEPA, formal invoices,...)

- WE ARE "PLUG&PLAY"


Thanks & Cheers!
-akw-



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Main rule: first come - first serve!
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The total amount to reach on the address above is of 9.17 BTC in order to cover all remaining 131 NEW shares, you can check confirmed payments list below:


The total amount to reach on the address above for PSUs is of 2.17 BTC in order to cover all remaining 31 NEW shares, you can check confirmed payments list below:


NEW VAT SHARES:


NEW PSUs SHARES:






OLD TITANs:




***PLEASE NOTE: As always, and as usual, eventual exceeding payments will be charged-back as soon as possible.

i may be interested in this one  :) but are you going to update the other knc group buy?

...sure, I've "time" now & we are getting closer...!!! ;)

Interested, what are you going to mine with it?

update:

SebastianJu just agreed to offer his escrow service (THX!)... Details will be soon updated in OP!

Thanks & Cheers!
-akw-

what if i want one or two whole units?

I'll host them here, you'll be able to manage them in remote session (if you'd like) and you'll be free (obviously) to dispose anything on them (eg. ship to new owner).

just in case: "the time is now!"

Interested

meh, nah. I want to host my own equipment.

In this case, I can't get the point... why don't you order them directly, by yourself...?   :)

Like to reserved 3 shares  :) provide me soon the information for payment ^,^

Since i was asked to hold the coins in escrow until the buy... the escrow address for this Groupbuy is

Wont KNC be offering hosted hashes like cex.io in the massive DataCenter they are building?
http://www.datacenterknowledge.com/archives/2014/02/06/bitcoin-miners-building-10-megawatt-data-center-sweden/

I think not since they are explicitly talking about ATX PSUs to be bought by TITAN customers...

In any case, in my opinion is always preferable to hold directly the hardware (especially since we are in the same "time-zone" of KnC)...
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...I'm going to update the OP with payment details, thanks so much SebastianJu for your support! :)

Cheers!
-akw-

The escrow just released the dedicated address for this group buy, I'm going to update OP with payment details and example!


ESCROW ACTIVE ADDRESS:

1wascLN5FuQmi3XLBTQoRmmBfDEepubfK

what was updated?

OP means Original Topic, the first post on this thread..! ;)

I understand that. but what information is new because i don't see new information.

...a soft & shameless bump! :P

When will sebju release the btcs to you?

Also, if knc will fail the delivery in q3, the btcs will refunded to the original sending adresses?

Infine, mi sembra di capire che siete italiani, si potrà verificare sul posto la legittimità dell'operazione quando le macchine saranno consegnate?

SebastianJu will NOT release the funds to us! As always done, he will use my KnCminer personal account to pay the orders (release funds)... that's actually how an escrow works! :)

(same he did with the last 4X KnC Neptunes orders)

Sure you'll be able to come here and see by person, with pleasure!  As shareholder, you'll be able to obtain our business/bank details too, in order to pay for fix costs via fiat if you'd like to do so, for example...!


Thank you for your interest & Cheers!
-akw-


P.S.:
...possiamo sentirci anche er telefono se vuoi, no problemz here! :)

So if i correctly understood, you have only placed an order w/o paying it?

You can find pictures & details of orders in post #3 of this topic!

usually I use to check for interest in Forum for shares before release my orders to the public... as the interest gain/shares paid would be enough for us, the orders will be paid in full, AS ALWAYS DONE BEFORE, without issues of any sort till now! :)

Cheers!
-akw-


(((For a paid order of mines I would like to ask you a looot more as shares price... don't you think!? ;) )))

ADDITIONAL INFOS:

- electricity cost here is of about 0.2€ kW/h  (with business contract)

- we are in the same time-zone of KnCminer =>> faster/immediate/next-day assistance/RMA/support

- top-level staff, equipment & hosting services included

- mining farm resource-sharing will maximize your net gain/profit

- transparent management

- NO hidden costs - NO extra fees

- full b2b & b2p connection if needed (eg. SEPA, formal invoices,...)

- WE ARE "PLUG&PLAY"


Thanks & Cheers!
-akw-

OP updated, better info & details!

OP can you please give some details of the plan for what you'll be mining and how the exchange will work? This is quite a different situation than pure BTC mining and BTC payouts.. there's a few variables there.

since the scarce feedback on this GB... I'm probably going to cancel this orders from the public offer...

Thanks & Cheers!
-akw-

as of now, I've received PMs from several members (from Italian section too) pledging for about HALF of the total shares available!

Please, share here publicly any question/comment/doubt/request you may have, in order to be helpful to the others too!   :)


I think that with the just kick-starter, this Group Buy would remain active and available...  at the same time, our offer seems to be one of the few good, fair & transparent investment offer... ;)


I remain at disposal, just share your thoughts here, it would be really a pity to miss such a GREAT occasion!


Thanks & Cheers!
-akw-

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...just to underline:

The machines will be hosted into an existing & working mining farm (just plug-n-play!), here they will have at disposal all the available facilities, equipment & benefits of the farm... this will result in ZERO additional investments, in GRANTED OPTIMAL working conditions for the machines, in professional maintenance, b2b & b2p optional connection... and so on!   :)

...this scrypt ASICs are not limited to mine LTC only... ... ...      ;)

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Enjoy your week-end!
-akw-

I also would like to take the units of the titan ..

I am still interested.

I think what is holding people back is your are relatively limited trust history.
I have read the thread on your other GB that you are hosting, everything looks nice and dandy, however it is not hashing yet (KnC Saturn Neptuns), right?
Can you tell a little more about the mining-farm that you are running, maybe post some pictures.
Also relevant to ask, have you been ID'ed by anyone?

Best wishes,

I didn't see an answer for this, I'm curious too. Are you going to be using profit switching scrypt like middlecoin and are payouts going to be in BTC?

Hi TookDk!   :)

first of all, thanks for havibg shared your opinion and your interest here!

I'll be glad to meet you (and everyone else) next May @bitcoin2014.com when I'll stay @Amsterdam for about 1 week and I'll meet other regular Forum's members, as actually regularly happens in such occasions!   ;)
Several members know me in person and Italian Forum's members who don't, have the ability to ask for my telephone via PM... (I regularly talk to a bunch of them actually) ...sorry to have been short, but you can also find more complete references about me in the other GB topic!   ;)

The funds of the GB will not be managed by me (this time, just to increase the trust level) but ONLY and DIRECTLY by the highly trustworthy escrow SebasianJu (Cool guy, Hero member of this Forum and usual trusted escrow-partner of my GBs... Will be him to release funds for the payment or to refund back users if this GB won't complete for whatever reason!  I repeat: I blindly trust SebastianJu.

the Neptunes (4 public from GB) aren't still hashing away because they are still in production... as you know! They are only a part of our mining asset.

Our mining operation location have to be kept hide as much as possible as you can clearly understand, in order to protect our/your privacy and to secure assets as much as possible and so on...
Having said that, justified/friend members are always welcome to come here and visit us, with pleasure! Beyond that, we actually offer hosting service too and we have implemented/upgraded, especially during the last months, a full-optionals mining farm (just to say it shortly) with ALL kinds of goods we need, beside careful hands, like several electricity lines, telephone lines, air conditioners and air extractors, and every kind of hardware equipment we desired... (I actually develop on experimental hardware too). Experience can be proven and, as long as you'll have rights or hold stuff in our mining farm, I'll send you pictures / I will setup a webcam if it's worth it... don't worry about this!   :)


I think that this GB can be a real good occasion for "small" investors too, since the shares are shaped to fit small initial investment capitals and allow in such way a better entrance point for "new miners (guys)" ...

It would be a pity to loose such an occasion... I can also ensure that, as the GB would "start", I'll do my best to keep good contacts with KnC and ensure the #1 batch #1 delivery  order queue position!


If you have any doubt/question/... about costs or duration or somewhat, please post here and you'll get your answer!  :)


Thanks & Cheers!
-akw-


P.S.:
for who is asking about what/when/how to mine...

I think that's "a bit early" to define such details... all decisions will be taken in majority and in full interest of profit... don't you think!? We (and you too) haven't absolutely intention to waste time/money/hardware   :P


P.S.2:
Don't give up! ;D

Fortune favors the brave  ;)

Jankko60 Sent 3.15 BTC  from 1CHwr88LGoYKjx5fvz6ZxpE9DoH8UkFwNe for 45 shares - 37.49 MH/s

TxID 8c50136ce081b26fd3cd8793d8e8e8b95ab363579a34efe1fcdf82ef4570116d-000

payout address : the Same of Above

Enjoy

J

GOT IT, thanks for having officially started this GB & for your support!

Welcome on board, Mr FIRST IN QUEUE!   ;D



...LET THE FUN BEGIN!!!  :)

Jack80 sent 0.07 BTC from 1FvuffXoJbwXNnHvuKcFYe4ujdiFrCBc6t for 1 shares

TxID: f36d7d1ab374b0c20d1358ae88223fabe984762f1ccda45423e26adfd346e36f

Confirm the transaction :) .

Got it, tx confirmed & thanks for your support!

...updating #2 post, Cheers!
-akw-

Horifatto sent 1.26 Btc from 1AyzUjF4AUtatLF6ajroo4T2g4KG5jPw8p for 18 shares

308dd35a22c59c34ac5bbdde7dc5b31b79dee3701bb92810fa3649e465b04d9c


Confirm please!


 8)

Tx confirmed, +18 shares to you, thank you for support! :)

(OP & #2 post just updated!)


Thanks & Cheers!
-akw-

Hey mate can I reserve 50 shares please? I'll be able to sort payment within the next 12 hours

Also could you please let us know as soon as you can re: this query:


Given the scrypt mining scene is so variable and dependant on many changing conditions it will be crucial for me to know how this will operate.

My personal opinion is that you'd go with a reliable mining scheme at least to start with like pure LTC mining and then LTC payouts so that for those users wanting to keep the LTC it works, and for those wanting to hold until particular exchange-rates are available they are also sorted.

Sure & thanks for your interest!

about your question, I'm on your side! We'll have to rely in a solid and valuable mining scheme for our operation and, at the same time we have to care about machines best operativity  and... the best gain/profit we can obtain, in the full interest of everyone!  :)

I'm sorry for my english... in other words I'd like to say that we aren't here to waste time & crypto, don't absolutely worry!!!   ;D

I remain at disposal, thanks & Cheers!
-akw-

LastRoby send 0.210 BTC for 0.07x 3 share ;)
hash send Bitcoin is: 599eb835b7138225aec31369f1bc5f87df4f90fd98dc03e4f1ab33046a9a5292

more Bitcoin arrive for other share buy ;)

Sent 2.94 BTC from 1M5QpHuRUuj9Rismaa4k6tPaPy8dQtkHwr for 42 shares

TxID 25755699e304a49c52956d43ccfb08194524bef6259868c290f9cdf65d14c794

Cheers :)


just checking - that address is in the same wallet as the one that sent the transaction. That's ok right?

Got it, TX confirmed & thanks for support!  :)

OP & #2 post just updated, looking forward for your next confirmation, welcome on board!


Cheers!
-akw-

Got it, TX confirmed & thank you too for support!  :)

OP & #2 post just updated!

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Not quite right, I'll use the address you wrote in your reply as your reference one... Technically, funds were sent from another address (it seems from your same wallet) as they were "distributed" & fragmented so! Just let me know your needs and I'll accomplish... I can easily track buyers with this GB! ;)


Thank you ALL & Cheers!
-akw-

Love your work anykeywhy! Looks like you did well buying it while BTC price was higher  ;D

Also - depending on how we mine I guess I might need to give you a LTC address instead of a BTC one!

Thanks for your words, and support, much appreciated!   :)    (as you should remember, I did pretty the same with the Neptune's buyout, by "locking" the prices around $1000/BTC ;D )


sure, we'll have time to setup for dividend addresses, for now we'll keep as primary reference the BTC ones, then we'll use BTC + LTC addresses for ALL shareholders. This, in order to keep the process as clean as possible and avoid time-wasting-work while setting up & pushing forward the GB!


Thank you ALL & Cheers!
-akw-

One of my noisy 7970s just burnt out... sounds like a good time to do this :)

0.7 BTC (10 shares)
txid: f5ace28e59ca5783cbcee32bfe701f92f2022c21e48e45469dea231bb0ad384d
from: 15Pje9U5y5MzPrLprBD4RfkQG1W5VB8SWG

Thanks!
 

too bad for your card... :(
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Tx confirmed, thank you for support & welcome on board!   :)

as always, I've just updates OP & #2 post with details!

...don't be late!   ;)


Cheers!
-akw-

ciao sono interessato ad acquistare circa 6 quote...

invio all'escrow e poi che devo fare?

sorry thought it was the italian thread...

would like to buy 6 quotes... what do i have to do?
is enough sending btc to the escrow?

thx

Hi,

send 2.1 BTC for other 30 share ;)
hash send 719fbe857c2697f29b48f26b1878e741ac952c9af4100b9bf7532b8a7074e2a4

total share 33 share x 0.333mh/s = 10.989mh/s and more.. ;)

sent 0.42 btc for 6 shares
transaction: 7cf38da142df83eb2b4634d6df887ca4ccd564319c258158e18b7aaa01f3a118
from: 1BJW4qZ5Yv9S39YZHyEL32fT2GcWoi7fa8

thank you

shall i do anything else to claim these shares?

Got it & confirmed, you now own 33 total shares, thanks for support!   :)

OP & #2 post w records just updated!


Cheers!
-akw-

6 shares are confirmed to you, got the payment and TX confirmed, thanks for support & welcome on board!   :)

--- you just claimed them by sending the payment as confirmation, you should now only care about the possession and full control over your BTC address and your Forum contact (as long as I haven't another one of yours!)... further details will follow, don't worry!


Thank you ALL & Cheers!
-akw-   

hi,

sent 0.35 btc for 5 shares
hash: 0a52bcc2109a176b263c5878be17440960061a1d
from: 1HCUecXXrgjFXJZX5jFrAkFNeGS9pqN6Bn

Got it & confirmed!  +5 shares fly out to you, thanks for your support!   :)

OP & #2 post were just updated as usual... don't be late!


Thank you ALL & Cheers!
-akw-

I think I'll jump into this GB with 4 shares.
Gonna make the payment this evening as I get back home.
Cheers

Thanks for your interest!  ...see you later!!   :)

Cheers!
-akw-

from the Italian thread:



TX got & confirmed, thank you for support & welcome on board!   :)

OP & #2 post were just updated... don't be late!


Thank you ALL & Cheers!
-akw-

LastRoby
Send other 1.19 BTC for 17 share x 0.07 ;)
hash send 4e73d70d65c0586fe19035ebfb132047f2c54132fc73683501372e2c1699cae0

total share 50 share x 0.333mh/s = 16.650mh/s and more..

update post please ;)

got it & confirmed! +17 more shares to you, I've just updated OP & records on #2 post, thank you for your continuous support!   :)


Thank you ALL & Cheers!
-akw-

Hash send:15852c4b9cb01a9351b54cf7979eb4027e087a8fd5bbe74b13325565e2d2b5bd
From: 1CQuTk8zSqBJKJU5PD8MRwt3RCkrnnHrsy

BTC: 1.05
15 share

TX confirmed & thanks for your support!   :)

I'll update OP later... sorry, busy-night here!

LATEST 84 shares remaining as of now, don't be late!  ;)


Thank you ALL & Cheers!
-akw-

Decided to get another 10 (total should be 20)

txid: 997bb10f9c18e9cfca8202df65c3866311e49b0cdc9a1c5b12f662c410670439
from: 15Pje9U5y5MzPrLprBD4RfkQG1W5VB8SWG (should match previous)

Thank you!!!

Sent 0.28 for 4 shares
TxId: c34ccfc591217053679de3e75f99f368a6aa5455b6cf88879dc551212b8ced3e

Still not sure where to get the sending address from Bitcoin-Qt wallet (still using 0.86 version) (blockchain reports 2 sending addresses... ???)

@akw: can we specify a payout address as for Neptune GB? Or as it's about scrypt mining we'll need different wallets? Thanks (anche in MP.. ;D).
Cheers

You should own both of those sending addresses.  The total stored in those two will add to over 0.28 and then some 'change' would have been sent back... and the net transfer will end up at 0.28

Anyways, either one will work... just check they are listed in your 'receiving addresses'.  If you want to use a different receiving address I imagine akw will require you to sign a message (File -> Sign Message)

TXs confirmed, OP & #2 post just updated! Thank you guys for your support!   :)

@kirth you can contact me via PM with all your needs/doubt & we'll bust them ALL for sure! :)


Thank you ALL for supporting this GB & Cheers!
-akw-

sent .35 for 5 shares

sent from 1N46WcHamtvdq4b9QhvYzWMVoVswoyz7kM

txid 340afb4497e5bbf8972ce08b8d5cb6ebda88fcf045ea1901b0c5d667aec59897

I am there too!

Send : 0.35 btc for 5 shares
5 x 0.333mh/s = 1.665 mh/s
Transaction ID: 6f1xxxxx37xxxx628cxxxxx5581xxxxxxxbe06xxxxxx28060xxxxefxxxxxxb3c
Address: 15AxxxxxxgexxxxxxjZxxxxxxsQxxxx7fM

sent .35 for 5 shares

Address : 1MHzuVgg4eBwbcaRqtfMNxBJrSNEMis8jZ


txid : 9a0fc11382c70394459ad77de36d0fbfdf84ded7829e8ad7d3a596a454e44a0e

Since Knc increased Titan performance up to 250Mh is one share 0.83 Mh now? Or it still 0.33?

what do you think about unlocking a second TITAN order of mine!?   :)


Thank you ALL & Cheers!
-akw-

That is a pretty significant boost.

Anykeywhy is there any more available shares for this round?

ALL latest TXs have just been added to the #2 post and the OP have been updated accordingly, please check your details there!

THANK YOU ALL for your kind confirmations and support so far!

Cheers!
-akw-

Allright akw, I'm in ;)

tx id: 3ab83bf42689cc469c15b6406f7f26186aee18e9dd6e0e38768a714121a9d487

Sent 0.21 BTC
3 x shares

Bitcoin address for dividend:
14pJQvi9MaTKEQoJU1tnysvztffhrZ1nuH

Please confirm.

Great!

Sent 0.35 for 5 shares

Adress: 1MmoWZCUgZrnM76z4xjdq959JxQchpaEgm
TX ID: 6800f1b55e77c28199d179496ca93100616b7f0ed50da63fabf0b230be05d3d8

TXs got & confirmed, welcome on board guys & thanks for your support!   :)

I've just updated OP & #2 post, please check your details there!


Thank you ALL for your support & confirmations so far!

Cheers!
-akw-

Thanks akw, looking forward to have you as GB-host!

Number of shares in #2 post confirmed.
I suggest to add the dividend address in the table so the share-holders can review them as well.

Payout address: 18SGpo2NNRMcFp4XaVDEM458vcbt8sEMSx

Thanks  ;)

Sent 0.35 BTC from 16DvcqX512UvLBz5iiHtzNo9W8x1y6CYDL for 5 shares

TxID 6c5979ede66eccc8e28edaafc6a970f4a8911026fe41717560c7f1fa6eee365c

hi,

sent 0.28 btc for 4 shares
hash: 0a52bcc2109a176b263c5878be17440960061a1d
from: 1HCUecXXrgjFXJZX5jFrAkFNeGS9pqN6Bn

Sent 0.14 for 2 Shares:

TXid: d8a9705f5be1d7fc42ca9a1905e86f00e5fd11ed2433cedcce5e92ca58a54f27

Payout Address: 12zj6vK9Z9RExUb3gFGY33Zb2txykSKN99

Thanks!

Sent 0.21 for 3 Shares

TxID: 3ab83bf42689cc469c15b6406f7f26186aee18e9dd6e0e38768a714121a9d487

Payout Addrress: 1AyTC2qDCYF5VtLFHn9EFjoVHYEVBNjkyz

 ;D ALL IN!

the above claimed transaction belongs to another user... I already own a signed message from that user's address...

please @valetrm, go waste somebody's else time... you've just been warned!   ;)


updates will follow soon! Cheers!
-akw- 

all TXs got & confirmed, thank you for your support & welcome on board!   :)

you can check your details in #2 post just updated as OP was!


Thank you ALL & Cheers!
-akw-

louen84
pagamento per 4 shares per il titan 0.28btc

il mio indirizzo 1JDCGkbzLoWcmzqTPeDhA5RkvZcu6vEPZv

fatemi sapere se è andato a buon fine :)

ps: per il titan i pagamenti li effettuerete in ltc o in btc ?

Took 3 shares: ca8ace543273290b91e1893c87d1e178cf3e8f1174169a5fffcd24e6b3762ee4

Address: 17nWnwK8GmicKytAowBf7QEhnYaQuVqjLX

Sent 0.35btc from 19u1hqFUSoryHdwWb43iQFHgxrE2YyVB8T for 5 shares

TxID 8b8a0bea923a5027f107b708b201dd5c6e6aaf8f875d241b5bd0511ad84ad01d

akw, is round 1 sold out?

It seams like we have reached the 21 BTC?

sure, I'm going to update data on thread, sorry for the late!   :)


Cheers!
-akw-

sent 0.14 btw for 2 shares from 1AyzUjF4AUtatLF6ajroo4T2g4KG5jPw8p

confermare grazie

Hi man, my fault!!!! I've sent btc from my mintpal account! But as u know...if the transaction is not totally confirmed u can't see the ID...so (stupidly) basing on the time of my withdrawal unfortunately at the same time of other 0,21 transaction, thinking that is mine, i wrote the post!

My real TxID is a6485b6371ffa32175832044f0a7b2c3a4935e67e61dfb49b19a29e5297fbdd4 for 0,2104BTC for 3 SHARES!
 

all right!   issue solved, welcome & thank you too for support!   :)

check your details in #2 post please!


Cheers!
-akw-

ALL TXs as of now have been noted in #2 post and I'm just going to update OP!

*** great news: we have just unlicked the #2 TITAN order, you're welcome to start your confirmations! ***


Thank you ALL for support & Cheers!
-akw-

That is great news - payment for 1st titan is collected! - we have a GB!

- When is the payment due? When do Sebastian have to transfer the payment to KnC?

- What are the conditions for 2nd Titan? Is that machine in the top 50 delivery list from KnC, same as the 1st Titan we ordered?

Bought 6 more shares.
TxId: 655f64788ba2eb1eb151960fd0acfe27245eabe03111af68876b46333bcdd203

Same payout address.
Thanks

I'll alert Sebastian via SMS too if it would be necessary, when there will be the better change-rate spike we can hope to... Please, don't worry about this, we act in the total protection of everyone's asset by balancing decisions with risk pondering!  :)

The conditions for the #2 TITAN order are exactly the same of the first, the same applies to the order queue position and consequent shipment/delivery priority...  it's also sure that the #2 TITAN will share all our mining farm facilities and optionals as the first one!


Thank you ALL for support & Cheers!!!
-akw-

Sent 0.49 for 7 shares from 1HaL3fx8X5jP6mDqxhkE1y3NdQFiAqTAXd

tx - 74f41ff482e085207bc246cec4a4e2563bc012c0648826a0742e0dec998bf210

ta

TXs confirmed & records just updated, thank you too guys for support & welcome!   :)

please, check details in post #2


Thank you ALL & Cheers!
-akw-

Sent 0.70 BTC from 1DH34rtLuTwHrzhRBofuTUMXKryUBaVZ6f for 10 shares  :D

TxID e37b341f6edcd49c64570ff9cc25d68f424c1c21f7d068f6323442ce36cb5ace

Sent .14 BTC for 2 shares. transaction : 7735782f4773f2dc3079e8d518c990faac2f2c710a5259ced9ef9bfccd2a2343

Deposit address: 1N9ozm99b5DpMhHnG1KBmQVkAEwTN81iog

sent from atomic trade (hopefully that's not an issue)

from my PM inbox, sorry for the late & welcome!   :)

Got it & confirmed, thanks for support!   :)

Just be sure you fully own & control the above "Deposit address"... for any other needs, please send me a PM!

TX got & confirmed, thanks for support & welcome on board!   :)


Thank you ALL for support & Cheers!
-akw-


P.S.:
Enjoy your week-end!!!   ;D

How do I know whether SebastianJu actually confirm his role of escrower or not, aside from sending him a PM (witch i did but, umph... he's offline  :-\) ?

Sent 0.21 for (other) 3 shares
From 1Eh9kvPVSzyXQWxFtZjQNJqiiFAk3EMer5
TxID: 0270fe05f14c303087049c53d13b0c30664698336ff5de84ff9bc21caf0b047c

Thanks!

SebastianJu confirmed the escrow in post #14.


Nevertheless any GB require a lot of trust to the GB host, since he is the one that will administrate the equipment and the dividend payout.
GB is high risk business never invest more than you can afford to lose.

Cheers :)

Sent 0.21 BTC from 19Ktphhc62bgLo3E98moQV5GWwWukXSMsg and 1Ppx3g67XeoYtSuSzUNcsccgLuJqMefavD for 3 shares

TxID  5d4419a7ce9601c0f7e334d82931afa084d228424c1771ddef7a551f0b3b65c3-000
 

I control both addresses.

Sent 0.98 btc from 1Kj35XcRA5udwiocAuwTAZcywZA8nKdnqj  for 14 shares

TxID ec8cf0190016904ca3c3267469df3489c4c2bc66dfadfdc676d12192d1f2f521

you sent me a PM... beyond my disposal, I gave you the ability also to talk via telephone since you're Italian... what more!?

Enjoy your Saturday & Cheers!
-akw-

TXs got and confirmed, welcome on board & thanks for your support guys, all is running smooth here!   :)

...I'm going to update OP & post #2 in few minutes, please have a nit of patience before checking your details!


Enjoy your Saturday & Cheers!
-akw-

LastRoby
My wallet 1JSgqyRGX6y6YN9NqvtJffibaECPs5BZN9
Send 3.50 BTC for 50 share
hash send 9c0762ffe2ea824ffe9c63417b5d4da46a16edf314f07d86f56de158bb22a9c7
Totale share Titan 2 50 share x 833 kh/s = 41.650 MH/s and more..

update post please

Thanks for your continuous support, TX got & confirmed, I've just updated OP & #2 post!   :)


Thank you ALL guys, everything is running smooth! Enjoy your Saturday/Sunday!
-akw-

Hello!

Sent 1.12 BTC from 16U2oim6U6ExnnLsTdH6wykemRZt7TVY2S for 16 shares

TxID: e2f3a255874e485b1c07a4a9b6e19b147592606ee89db3cb143e44b759042f6a


Thanks

Got it & confirmed, thanks for support & welcome on board!   :)

OP & #2 post just updated!


Thank you ALL for your support & Cheers!
-akw-

Hey guys!

Sent 0.7 BTC from 1zCTYJFwZAWBYjyEsTCefJmurVquPW3rB for 10 shares

TxID 7aa8ebbc34a126a10c55ab8968ece2474d3499f2a8ccd6479b17f6bce12a1d1e

TX got & confirmed, thanks for support & welcome on board!   :)


Thank you ALL for your support guys &... don't be late!


Enjoy your Sunday & Cheers!!!
-akw-

Sent 0.21 BTC from 1EecnXDpZkXYAY1vkP7sJNF7zPHNjXeWTi for 3 shares

TxID 16783596f8b09675d141572095523b17f146b190b627c723f3f74f47475bc7a5

Thanks!

Sent 0.14 BTC from 137LqsuQ7y1AvEwrpo4EDtY54AARiXZ6rn for 2 shares

TxID 755004ea94545c60e02e8ff40fb4f6fec2af789596eb3e8183d0dee7c360b379

Sent 0.07 BTC from 137LqsuQ7y1AvEwrpo4EDtY54AARiXZ6rn for 1 (more) share

TxID 41eaf04faa4f9aefab7d8b269a484f711adfc2824cc1e3aea4edd131ed0aab24

more 2 shares please:

Sent 0.14 BTC from 16U2oim6U6ExnnLsTdH6wykemRZt7TVY2S

TxID: ac8d7fef792a0ca1bc946711d2c6d8254d037ed462d019cc6e8700da74dc3840

Thanks

TXs got & confirmed, thanks for support & welcome on board guys!   :)

I've just update OP & #2 post, please check for your details!


Thank you ALL for your support, all is running smooth! Cheers!
-akw-

http://www.coindesk.com/kncminer-updates-titan-spec-promises-250mhs/

 :o :o

Bought 5 more shares. (total is now 15 shares)
TxId: 3d2a4b24570a248676ecffde2fde66fc061e1dac1cc37e7717bb3018b5603ea4
Same payout address.
Cheers  ;)

First of all,how safe is this buying of shares?

Why are people trusting this man,who they dont know and they wont have the hardware in front of them.1 person controls everyones mining.

Have people gone so fragile?

several members know me in person/keep regularly in contact with me in person... before you become offensive without ANY reason, please, read the entire thread (and others included) and then go waste your time elsewhere if you feel uncomfortable here... don't you think!?

Cheers!
-akw-

from the Italian thread... yesterday I forgot to consider this shares buying and I'm going to correct my mistake!  :)

TXs got & confirmed, thank you ALL for support guys!   :)

OP & #2 post just updated, please check your detail there!


Have a good-starting good-week & Cheers!
-akw-

I didnt mean to be offensive,just trying to find out how people trusts you.

Anyway,after the Titan arrives,how will it be used to mine.I mean can you mine multiple coins at the same time with it?What if the share holders wants to mine different coins individually?

...it's a bit soon to setup on these details... but, for sure, all the decisions will be made by the majority and obviously for the sake of... profit!   :)

it would be my pleasure to meet any of you to the next bicoin2014.com ...it's time to book your flights!!! :)

Cheers & thanks for your interest!
-akw-

Another 2 shares for me:

Sent 0.14 BTC from 1DEvawm3qLVJVNFU6J1wMiseH9QUE4g7To

TxID: e8dc0f9a6a93c7ddefd0cec7ed1e33fea59b2531cd72758e3f256224becce8f5

Thanks

@akw Have you got through your pile of messages in your inbox? I send a question about details of the GB couple of days ago, can you look into it?
Cheers! :)

I my country Denmark, 85 % trust others easily when buying via intetnet..

elviselvis101 Sent 0.98 BTC, for 14 shares -  11,662 MH/s

TxID;   1a9ffa4a13514da6f4052936cd1ce10fa6ce5c4aff1f87805942a2bc600a0e95-000

 :)

Hi TookDk!

...I'm sorry for my late, I usually delay not-urgent questions for better moments, I hope you may understand, this isn't actually my work/job   ;)

if I can well remember what you asked for... I'll take (bought) my shares on top of the other ones, now technically I'm avoiding confusion in records, and a few will be taken as a sort of symbolic reward for running all of this... like to respond to messages, keep track of everything, accomplish to mad requests, responsibility, make the magic happen... and so on... we'll see details at its own time!   :)


Thank you & ALL for your interest & support! Cheers!
-akw-

...after, he wrote me via PM that he would like to run a GB too and doesn't know how to "attract" people's trust... ...good luck!   :)

Cheers!
-akw-

Thank you guy & welcome on board!  :)

TXs got & confirmed, I've just updated OP & #2 post, please check there for your details!


Thank you ALL for your support guys, all is running smooth! Cheers!
-akw-

Hi AKW, I have full understanding for the small delay, I know that your inbox is full of messages everyday since you are a GB-host.
Thank for the respond; How many shares (approximately) are you planning on taking for your self - on top of the 300?

Thanks for all the work you have been doing so far, cheers!

Good! In 3 days half of the shares are gone :D

Thx for your words & support too!  :)

I've not yet done exact calcs  Since I've to balance your buying too probably, but I'm here also for this reason... Too many changing variables atm... I hope you may understand! 


Thank You ALL for your support & Cheers!
-akw-

YESSSSS!!! ... don't be late! ;)

From the ITA thread... Thanks for support!  :)

TX got & confirmed, thanks for your support & welcome on board!   :)

OP & #2 post just updated, please check there for your details!


Thank you ALL for your support & Cheers!
-akw-

Bought 108 shares   :P :P
Address: 1J94DqwWTwmmJKL62S9sM7kEzDkjAxWNsZ
TX ID: 7c4be3ee729f6f9fd2c3e1f68f65d1b73c668dac90872f0f9f6f8fff3a2101d5

Please confirm!   :D

You definitely jumped in, man!  ;) ;D

Bought 1 share   
Address: 15svv7fV6SjHqrqNnyv5h4dYhZ7nLSiDf8
TX ID: c7ffdd55f0c66d9973ec86de344a9f6624d642977eecfb6dbaba54fdf24b9b29

Please confirm.

 :o :o  Tx CONFIRMED! ...it would be difficult to "walk un-noticed" with your load of shares from now! ;D :o

 thanks for your huge support & welcome on board! :)


Cheers!
-akw-

Tx got & confirmed too! theanks for your support & welcome on board!   :)

I've just updated OP & #2 post, please check there for your details!


Thank you ALL for your support & Cheers!
-akw-

I'm hiring some bodyguards...  :D

Sent 0.49 BTC from 1NN4NzcREpy94Y9k4qK1BNZx4sTwsnJAVN for 7 shares

TxID eb3fe68fc982a2d247b9f6d1d9e9da3ba68be0ed8f5e3f4d4ab3a06dcf295e3a

more 2 shares please (total 20):

Sent 0.14 BTC from 16U2oim6U6ExnnLsTdH6wykemRZt7TVY2S

TxID: 488cdb925fc7f87123d79259542f9447f366c1299d88a7c456cfc78ad9996cf8

Thanks

TXs got & confirmed, thanks for your support guys & welcome!   :)

please check for your details on #2 post, just updated as OP!

Cheers!
-akw-
_____________________________________________

I`ll take the remaining 12 shares, Will sent payment shortly (just on way home)

Lets get this order going! :)

Sent 0.84 BTC from 15ZXSnhMdSfRrwe5ixEE3QKoMfULq7rc2a for 12 shares

TxID 4fbb515b277552c15009c8e0e49b86c452405cde1c71906a356d2b7fc3456594

Looking forward to delivery! :)

Tx got & confirmed, thanks for your support & welcome on board!  :)

I've just updated OP & post #2, please check there for your details!


Tomorrow I'll be back with a more consistent update (crossing fingers to be a "bit" more free than usual!)

In the meanwhile, don't be late to confirm #3 TITAN's shares... KnC will not allow us all the time we'd like this time... also because about one half of available #3 TITAN shares have been already pledged... ;)


Thank you ALL for support & Cheers!
-akw-

Bought 3 shares   
Address: 15svv7fV6SjHqrqNnyv5h4dYhZ7nLSiDf8
TX ID: c1107d73b0a632d6be2857870bb8593b0aa39cda6bf0dabcd423104f18ab071e

Please confirm.

Confirmed & thanks for your support!   :)

...please have patience while I'll update OP & records!   


Thank you ALL & Cheers!
-akw-

 so #2 is gone? damn I was going to get a few more shares this weekend. as long as it's ok with you guys I may just get some shares on #3?

Sent 0.07 BTC from 14QGmEqjiZWqR3D5emMB75ipvjW45hkyQ4 for 1 shares

TxID 54d353ed7146522a70f06f7dd4bdc1b764e73cf947d6e42e28be337b948fd008

Tx got & confirmed, thanks for support, you can check your details on OP & #2 post I've just updated!   :)


Thank you ALL guys for support & Cheers
-akw-

Sure, you can get in whenever you want, orders are sharing the same position in queue and will share the same facilities/advantages!  :)

Thank you for your interest & Cheers!
-akw-

I've already settled with KnC this morning and it's all right on our/their side! This way we'll absorb better the recent price-fall and keep about the same ratio btc/pwr as the beginning of the GB!!!

Do you like this sort of kind price-protection!? :)   

Cheers!
-akw-

Wow sounds good! hoping they deliver what they advertising for (waiting for action on your neptune gb as well) ;-)


Sent 0.49 BTC from 1BankKEd1WQuDmSSBRqHx51mHBy1omiFgC for 7 shares

TxID e42a7c2294a8b992aa1deec4fb2335bf98efe8db78367504dd0abba237638c08

Hi & thanks for your interest & support!   

I'm glad you like our "price-protection", I believe that KnC will deliver above their MINIMUM spec of 250... ::)  ;D

I've just updated records on #2 and also OP with new infos about no-vat price... you can check there for your details (Tx got & confirmed!)


Thank you ALL for your support and your confirmations so far, all is running smooth! :)

Cheers!
-akw-

My name you wrote down is wrong, check again please  ;)

can't you change it in order to adapt!?!?!?   ...just kidding, fixed & sorry! :)

Cheers!
-akw-

haha. Thanks!

Sent 0.21 BTC from 1Nvn2LmCaaMo3gqgm8k8vCAqLGjf3FC8pH for 3 shares

TxID 0a7f9b1a5bfc42002a00acded76909fda97e3b43b58aa6d779df274b9dafeab8

Sent 0.28 BTC for 4 Shares:

to => 1wascLN5FuQmi3XLBTQoRmmBfDEepubfK
from => 1LiQAzDWE9dopnNX6FMVaNKmXTdUWUskTk
Tx ID => e41b69f20d96df35c3e6e393b4e2e3adff55bc662127c6d7969c23a753303e63

Sent 0.14 BTC from 1HSvtYmhPM9o5qPyagCmDqR1YdPWUgVKsU for 2 shares

TxID bb7c3cfa314f16889a92734fe6e573be5553e7d7d4459defe95e0ff0993bfcde

TXs got & confirmed, thank you for support & welcome on board guys!   :)     (sorry for my late confirmation today...)

I've just updated OP & #2 post, please check there for your details!


Thank you ALL for your support & your confirmations so far!
Cheers!
-akw-

I've sent you a pm.

I also sent you a PM

KNC increased the hashrate again, this time to 300 MH/s per Titan!

https://www.kncminer.com/products/titan (https://www.kncminer.com/products/titan)

Any news about order?!

If you check out the link from the OP, it looks like Sebastian Ju paid KNC the 43 BTC on April 4th so I think we are good. Just waiting for them to come.

https://blockchain.info/address/1wascLN5FuQmi3XLBTQoRmmBfDEepubfK?show_adv=true (https://blockchain.info/address/1wascLN5FuQmi3XLBTQoRmmBfDEepubfK?show_adv=true)

Sent. 11 shares for 0.77

ef18148a7ba761ccc3cdd40bc8c7e55557fb9a09ddaa6b8eb20660962c467755

Addresses:

BTC - 1A91zX6EJT3VMagGMm7QeeML25BYLnrzKK
LTC - LYkJK8wiqNQEAad5B1kdBtgAfhUF2PZHvh

Oh crap. I sent that 0.77BTC from a Bitfinex account without thinking. I'm not sure if the address it was sent from is connected to my account. Could you send it to my address at 1A91zX6EJT3VMagGMm7QeeML25BYLnrzKK and I'll send it back, or is this an issue? Proof:

Got it & confirmed! Thanks for your support & welcome on board!    :)

I've just updated the OP & the #2 post, please check there for your details!

...about the address, just send me / post here your correct one (one that you control in full) and we're done, no issues at all (no busy/just happened)!


Cheers!
-akw-

Thank you!!! And here's my new address:

1A91zX6EJT3VMagGMm7QeeML25BYLnrzKK

Could you verify the address has been updated when you have a chance? Thanks!

Likely to be a GB #4?
Already invested but looking to grab some more shares

Sent 0.35 BTC for 5 additional shares

Transaction ID: f467e6fb63f4c599ebb4ae9e451e1fc60a994deaba6ea059ea5489908f7f08d7
Sent From: 15ZXSnhMdSfRrwe5ixEE3QKoMfULq7rc2a
Sent To: 1BtPikKgDY787gdaUP4V6RZJSqWcmyvXoF

Brings me to a total of 17 shares

Many thanks

Does anyone want to take my place with 11 shares (0.77 BTC). After all the drama with the Neptune, I'm reconsidering. I'll sell it for 0.7BTC.

yes i'll take your shares , give me just two hours , send me a pm with your address.

Any form of update/news? :)

The Titan hashrate was increased again to 400 MH/S

NO. The increasing is for Batch 2 only.

Is there any better estimate on the delivery date beside "Q2/Q3" ?

https://www.kncminer.com/news/news-93

Wrong. All Titans will be ~400 MHs.

Good to hear :)

Any source to claim it ???

only second batch runs at 400MH/s, that is a different preorder with another price, shipped 1 month later because is an upgrade :) cheaper than first batch  :o

No, there is no upgrade, there is nothing MADE right now. Every unit will be ~400 MH/s when they MAKE THEM IN THE FUTURE. If you don't believe me ask KNCMiner.

I hope so man! We both have shares so it's good for everyone if titan reach 400Mh/s , I only know for shure that Knc guarantee a MINIMUM of 300 Mh/s so maybe 400 it's possible and they ship in Q3 so they are near to MADE....do you ask KNC directly for that information?  :)

Up to 400 MH/s
 
In this run we've been able to upgrade the Batch Two "Mini" Titan to 200 MH/s, and the "standard" Titan to 400 MH/s, while still keeping power consumption and thermal disturbance as low as possible. We've also made great strides in noise reduction and packaging, aiming for a sturdier product altogether.

It seems that no one said batch one Titan is 400Mh/s too.

I just asked the official of Kncminer.
He claimed that the first batch is 300Mh/s only.

AKW, can you elaborate where these extra shares comes from?


I can see that Titan#1 and Titan#2 already has 792 shares (unless I calculated wrong).
Does this mean that our shares gets diluted?

I am also a little confused about this thread:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=665916.msg7581610#msg7581610

Can you take a few minutes to add some info and transparency, thanks :)

Can you e.g. state what the MHash/share we can expect for already purchased shares for titan #1.

Cheers!

Hey man, thanks 4 your interest!
The shares you're talkin' about are for 3 machines (and you're watching a totally not-updated list... sorry, it will be fixed as possible!)     :)

About the other thread, these are 2 of our very firsts already PAID orders that now we are offering to the "public"... could you find a better deal than this?

so, we'll get minimum 1.03 MH/s per each share if KnC doesn't upgrade our Titans but, since they stated differently, we'll have to split 400 MH/s beteeen the 290 shares for each machine... quite good, don't you think?  (We bought these machines when they were announced at 100 MH/s... pauing in full, instantly... do you remember it?  :)

Cheers!
-akw-

GOOD NEWS!   ;D




https://www.kncminer.com/news/news-95

Cheers!
-akw-

AKW - can you please re-open the Neptune thread? Share holders have a right to post messages - they've invested significant funds in this.

Also - since you are in Europe can you not take advantage of legal options to get refund? I find it quite insulting that you declare our requests for refunds as silly and too late

While we had good faith in KNC it is simply TOO LATE for neptune. It will not make any money and we have options for refund. Please act before it's too late.

http://forum.kncminer.com/forum/main-category/hardware/49594-no-more-neptunes-shipping/page2

I contacted him about this and he told me that he told me he plans to answer all PM's in the next days.

Hello Guys and sorry for the late update!   :)


___________________---snip---______________________

Premises:

Titans thread has just been re-opened and updated, no "bad" news so far.
Neptunes updates are being dispatched only via PM (since months), not publicly, also due to the complexity of the Neptunes situation and to legal reasons once at this point.
Please, don't mix the two classes/kinds of machines/orders/situations, also in order to avoid confusion and misunderstandings.

ANYONE who contacted us via PM got updates on a regular basis (except who wrote during our holidays).

We are suffering like you from an huge damage and we are taking huge risks too since a long time... however, we're here with a positive spirit, trying to do our best to mitigate such damage and keep in balance above other user's useless madness... it's really stressing as you can easily guess...

blame KfC, not us, for what is happening...


Thank you for reading and Cheers!
-akw-
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UPDATES:

Titans orders are NOT refundable, we just checked for the nth time, absolutely and unfortunately there's no hope to get a refund.

Titans orders are not transferable to other KfC users.

At this point, GaW miners discount seems simply aa aggressive marketing operation...

We expect KfC to start shipping batch1 during this month (end of Q3) and we strongly hope that they wouldn't adopt the same behavior seen during Neptunes shipping.

We have to buy the PSUs for our machines!

We have to be ready to pay the VAT that was suspended when buying, as the machines will be delivered (22%)!

This post will be updated shortly with the directions for the funds collection. (since the huge damage occurred/occurring, this time we can't anticipate the required amounts, sorry...)

Suggestions are welcome and appreciated!


Thank you for reading and for your patience!
Cheers!
-akw-

Anybody want to pick up my shares?
Need the funds for another project.

I have 3 shares bought for a grand total of  0.21 BTC

I would sell them right here on the spot for 0.10 BTC.
I will even pay fee/tip to AKW for the transfer.

Escrow is welcome.

These shares are sold!

UPDATES (11-09-2014) NEW SHARES:

KfC announced today the incoming Titan shipping (starting from the next week), you can find the original news here: https://www.kncminer.com/news/news-106

In the interest of this group buy and its success, we have to get ready to receive the miners and prepare for having them fully operational.

we need to fund the buying of the necessary PSU units and to pay for the VAT that was suspended when we paid the machines (we hoped for a better btc/$ change...).

Two addresses will be written below where to collect the bitcoins for these "operations"

The amount of the VAT is 22% so, 2 X (9995 X 22%) = 2 X 2198.9 = 4397.8 $ total

The amount for the PSUs is 260 $ each so, 4 X 260 = 1040 $ total

The PSUs should cover at least 1100W per machine (4 cubes each) and let us some room for overclocking them. We thought about 2 X corsair AX860i per each machine, such PSUs, very efficient ones, have good protections against "electrical issues" and fire hazards, a lot of PCI-E connectors and will let enough room for overclocking. We are able to find each AX860i @ 198€ or 260$ shipped, new and with guarantee.

Using a "fixed" exchange rate @ 480$/BTC, the above amount are:

4398 / 480 = 9.17 BTC

1040 / 480 = 2.17 BTC

so, in order to cover the above expenses, we are emitting 131 + 31 NEW shares @ 0.07 BTC each

VAT = 9.17 = 0.07 X 131 shares

PSUs = 2.17 = 0.07 X 31 shares

VAT SHARES address: 12jhhmdLmaP9Lrc7TMzYPzQXDjfT2h8sG2

PSUs SHARES address: 1Jhjq14BmhuofDQtvbbDfiDwmhKEHRodS2


AVAILABLE VAT SHARES   131/131

AVAILABLE PSUs SHARES   31/31



Above there's a copy of the main thread update, please, join the rest of us and do your best in order to support the GB and un-block the situation... we don't have too much time and we don't want to see vanishing the efforts we did till now...

Please help this Titan GB to go further!

Thank you & Cheers!
-akw-

I'm selling 2 shares..message me if you are interested

Any thoughts to selling the Titans on ebay to recover what we can?

it's really risky to use ebay with such hardware but, if we manage to find a professional/expert ebay-mogul at disposal and the expenses of the "operation" still make it worth of... it wouldn't be a bad idea in our opinion!

and thoughts from any of our co-gb´ers ?

Guess this is not for os;

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=781422.msg8808125#msg8808125

I agree that we should sell them as fast as possible on ebay for as close to the equivalent price we paid in fiat as we can. That way we at least have a shot at making an ROI in terms of bitcoin because the price is lower now than when we paid.

Oh and I am selling my 5 shares if anyone is interested, make me an offer.

I bought shares in the Neptune groupbuy. Kncminer claims that they have shipped batch 1, which means we should be mining. I have not heard anything, and am wondering if my investment is gone for good. I sent a PM to anykeywhy, but he did not respond. I'll let everyone know if I get any updates from anykeywhy, but for now I assume that he took my BTC and ran to somewhere (in Italy?).

Any shipping news?  A few appeared on ebay already - http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xknc+titan&_nkw=knc+titan&_sacat=0

I would like to get some news about our mining operation, whats happening ?

basicly they didnt factor in VAT or power supplies in the price and now need 5 grand from us. most likely they are going to walk with the titan all to themselves. maybe not, but i dont think any of us are willing to shell out more money on this deal when we way overpaid to begin with. so i highly doubt we see any share of this whatsoever.

I do not recall any agreement about the power supply, do you have a link to where it says that ?
this operation is in EU and KNC is in EU, there are no vat between county's in EU, this is a B to B sale, no ?
If I am worng then the solution is to sell 1 and use that money for what erver is missing, so we can get the show on the road. This is a group buy.

Can we send them to GAW & turn into Hashlets?

that is the story i got, who knows. bottom line they want more money....which isn't going to happen.

This guy managed to sell his for $6350

http://www.ebay.com/itm/KnC-Titan-300-MH-s-Batch-1-IN-HAND-9-26-Litecoin-Scrypt-ASIC-Miner-NR-1-2-/331327047923?pt=US_Virtual_Currency&hash=item4d24a188f3

If you look at the Sold listings this is higher than many - i believe the difference is that he had his IN HAND the day before the sale closed.

That would not be a huge loss compared to what we're up for - let's consider it.

selling my 20 shares. make me an offer in pvt

thanks

Don't you answer or comment any fucking message in your thread Sir??

I would like an update from anykeywhy

any news???

What I dont get is why aren't all the others that invested heavily into this not kicking up a fuss, I would have expected a lot more activity since the thread got re-openend

I have wrote privately to the OP many days ago, but i've never received a reply... i'm happy to have invested an irrelevant quantity of btc.

So what's gonna happen to the miners if you won't sell all the shares?

AKW was online last time 2 week ago. Looks like it's time to forget about our hashes.

Same zero understanding here. How long do we give AKW before taking steps ?

@alexrossi ...it was really-really-hard to find a former "question" in your tons of writing about your life and your friends and what you like to do in your PMs... ...anyway, we obviously can't directly refund you and, if you still haven't understood what's the BIG issue here with KfC, it is that they DON'T refund us.

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Please, don't blame us if crypto-currencies prices are falling during these last weeks...

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About the VAT, it went SUSPENDED at the moment of buying and paying, it is now due (see European laws about it) at the moment when the goods will be sent/carrier-transferred/received... still we can't figure exactly "when" but in any case this will happen sooner or later as KfC will send the titans. We had time to organize and to cooperate to solve these issues, we can't take the responsibilities and the blames at the same time simply because we haven't the cash needed to cover this "operation" instead of all the shareholders (and it's supposed we aren't obliged to) and immediately.

About the PSUs that someone keeps asking about... THE PSUs WERE NEVER BEEN INCLUDED. Titan miners NEED PSUs because they are not included by the manufacturer, you can check this pretty everywhere. To recap, we'll need the PSUs to power-on and use the titans, it's obvious...

About the order status, it is still shown as "Paid" so, not really consistent news... yesterday arrived a newsletter from KfC with just public news about the miners performances, nothing more. We have to wait while submerged by the KfC's PR sandboxes until they'll ship our miners and we'll be forced to solve the few things remaining...

About KfC late deliveries... ...what to say... ......... ...we're suffering from an incredible damage from KfC this year... that's obviously and absolutely not good and we prefer to not express any personal opinion about this publicly...

About ebay and other selling/recovering options, it's fine for us to find together a good solution to mitigate the damage... the discussion is obviously open...


About the mood... we (all) should try to cooperate and go further instead of insisting in futile and pointless polemics. Things are evolved like this as of now, it's a fact, we have to be "adult" and point forward for a positive and optimal solution that could work for all of us... we are all in the same boat, we should play together instead of against ourselves!

Please, join this discussion in a positive way and help yourself and all of us to go through this nth KfC nightmare...


Thanks and Cheers!
-akw-




P.Ss.:

"last login" timestamps doesn't really matter on our Forum... with "some" conditions you can leave sessions opened pretty "indefinitely"... ;)

We always did our best to reply to "concrete" PMs received, we are sorry if sometime we miss/forgot someone...

What i can say about this low quality italian-made irony? Again, happy to have invested an irrelevant quantity of btc.


You definitely deserve it, after these words (26-06-2014, 11:51:09):


For english people


Yes AKW, at least the competition has shipped those crappy pieces of hardware when they still were useful. Why not share with us a selfie with your gold plated KnC titan when you will receive it? And please, continue to support the preorder logic when at the time of the pre-order there already was in-hand scrypt stuff.. KnC desperately need your money!


Yes, i definitely prefer your fake cheerfulness

Thanks for the update, so lets work together to resolve this: first could this, Swedish attorney Magnus Daar, be an option for us;

https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/knc-titans-missed-quarter-3-deadline-refunds/
if we (you) follow the guideline ?

(I still do not understand the tax part: no vat when trading between eu companies, I never pay import tax when buying hardware from Germany, I am in Denmark.

@alexrossi  Please go collect your signature campaign bonuses elsewhere, anyone already knows that you're always ready to blame others and feel "like their master" while being always and totally pointless... thanks so much for your precious collaboration.

Nice catch! Thanks for the informations!

We'll contact this lawyer in the coming days, in your opinion, how much should we offer as "bounty" if he can accept our case? Something like the 10%-20% it would be good for you? Any other suggestion? Are we sure to go that way (better to vote for a majority?)?  (please continue reading)

about the "tax part": at the moment of purchasing a good (EU-EU), if you pay the VAT at the moment of buying (eg. included in price), then no other "taxes" are due. Elsewhere, if you haven't paid the VAT at the moment of buying a good, it goes "suspended" and it is due later when the good is shipped/transported/received... because it wasn't included before as a component of the final price during the sale (the VAT "isn't an asset" under control of the seller nor of the buyer)


If we'll be able to go for the legal way, we wouldn't need anymore the PSUs and we'll have to be ready to ship back the Titans once we'll receive them...

BUT, at the same time, we'll be charged by new risks and new costs... what if the legal-way doesn't succeed or become only a waste of time? The lawyer should be paid anyway, the time lost will not come back, and the residual-value of the "investment" would become a great question mark in case the legal action for some reason wouldn't help us... Unfortunately, we have to consider the bad scenario too...
Another point is that "the public faces" and the legal responsibilities for such actions will not be "technically" yours but ours... as eventually, the consequences would impact directly on us and not you...

Are we sure that wouldn't be more convenient for us to wait to receive the miners and to try to sell them in some way, in order to recover as much as we can but without adding other variable costs, risks and time? We would also avoid big-volume and unjustified bank transfers and fiat amounts that would happen in case of "legal success"... that more likely would also trig unwanted red-flags, verifications and additional taxes for us...?


We think that we should consider and ponder well the costs/risks/timings involved in both "ways", the legal one and the selling one... please, share your opinions here!


Thanks and Cheers!
-akw-

Why should be a waste of time? The right to cancel a purchase is pretty clear and well explained here:

http://www.konsumentverket.se/otherlanguages/English/Consumer-rights/Right-to-cancel-a-purchase-Right-of-withdrawal/

especially:

I am sure you are all aware but - https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/knc-class-action-investigation-into-knc-miners-mischief/

"updates" so far:

- no replies received

- orders still showing as "Paid" and not "Processing"

- not so much of you joined this discussion

- on Monday we'll try to send an email again and we hope to finally get some consistent informations about these "fresh" legal actions

- You're welcome to share your opinion/ideas here and to try to involve other shareholders to do the same and join this discussion, we're all on the same boat...


Cheers!
-akw-

Hi anykeywhy,

Thanks for the tax explanation, holy crap, I did not know that, it sucks. Now a refund is a much better "deal", no need for paying the tax and psu´s + somebody said the mining value is now 27 times worse than 6 month ago!?!  Now I understand your problem of going "public" in a suit , that makes this situation more messed up. My suggestion, a poll with options, fair for you and os.... can`t come up with something better right now.

Bounty to the lawyer of 20%. The return-law is the same here in Denmark, so if there is money in the company at the time of court decision, KNC will pay, but many unknowns here...

just fund this site:

http://www.kncrefund.com/

I'm not denying the VAT payments but how come I haven't seen anyone else mention it when they talk of their titans?
 
Also I see they are now stating they will all be shipped in the next 3 weeks - http://forum.kncminer.com/forum/news-and-anouncments/65213-buckle-up-titan-speed-bump

Confirmed. The new legal action was started, we hired another Law Firm and we have now to hope and cross our fingers for this bad story to resolve in a positive and maybe quick way at the end...

Even without sufficient feedback from you, we decided to take the risks involved and we paid, we'll pay and we are paying these actions against KfC until it will be possible... No moneys were contributed by shareholders of any GB, we'll recover the spent amounts on the positive ending of this story, WE HOPE!
Really a looooot of money are flowing out *thankfully* to KfC.....

Nobody can tell us a precise timing for these "actions" to complete, you should be aware that, it would need months or years to see an ending or a definitive court decision about our cases and it could also turn bad and resolve in nothing if not in a major loss for us... it's useless to create false illusions, we can't be sure of nothing at this point if not that our cases "should" be "well founded" from a legal point-of-view...

Anyway, that's the best strategy/way for trying to contain our losses and mitigate the damages occurred/occurring if not to finally have our consumer's rights protected against the KfC behavior...


*****
On a further consideration, please note that we are literally "putting our faces" and taking in first person all the responsibilities and consequences that would/could derive from these legal actions... also on your behalf!
It's really delusional to see only a few of you joining and collaborating on this discussion, or simply sharing their's ideas or support...
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We'll remain at disposal and we'll update you as more concrete news will be available, the PM way to trigger our attention or ask for something is always a good way to use if you don't see us active for a while... (but please do not expect high-frequency updates, unforutnately, "these things" require "some time")


We are sorry that everything went the wrong way since KfC decided to turn to the "dark-side" at our loss, please don't blame us for what is happening but let's go instead to "make some noise on Teh Internet" by saying what REALLY KfC is and how they "act" in respect of their's "loyal customers" who bring to them the resources for becoming "what they seems to be from the outside, now"...

[...]
It's shocking how they can publicly attract millions of dollars in VC investments while, at the same time, they're litterally screwing up pretty all the people and businesses who concretely supported them by giving them "a lot of advantages" by pre-paying their products... It seems that KnC is taking profits and advantages from abusing also of the fragmentation, the dispersion and the "composition" of the really small and weak "crypto-ecosystem" where a lot of personal (eg. age), regional (eg. laws) or regulatory (eg. taxes) issues adds up and too often happen on the customer side, making hard or impossible for them to protect and defend their "rights" in such complex "international" situations...
On the more, people have to forcefully take as "holy law" the statements from KfC (because they wrote "Product not Refundable" on their website) and totally give up on their conditions while hoping to save at least 1/30 of what they spent...
[...]


KfC *seems* to be a platinum member of BTCfoundation even if there isn't any proof of payment as of today... please, read carefully all the following thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=621770.msg9374929#msg9374929


That's a really awful and stressing situation as you can easily imagine, this time we'll avoid to enumerate all the implications, if you have any thought that may help, please share it!


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On a more colorful side-note, "someone" of you is legally and personally threating us as we should be responsible of KfC faults and their delays depend from us... *BIG-LAUGH* ...what to say, that's obviously "not good for the mood"... ...unfortunately, not everybody is able to use his "so-called" brain, why we should expect they to be able to use google or to get real a life?? However, people invent everyday a new and artistic way to try to profit from others with zero efforts... it's not surprising at all that "someone" have not any truly alternative way to look for a positive income in its life than to LIE..................
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thanks @elviselvis for linking this http://www.kncrefund.com/ here! Real informations are slowly reaching the surface and emerging as they really are... we'd need a way lot more NOISE to be done on this!

thanks @alexrossi for your support in the italian section, much appreciated!

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We're glad to see that "the tone" of the PMs is becoming more polite as the REAL news about KfC are starting to spread... thank you!

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Sorry for the late and "sparse" updates and, as usual, for the bad English...   :)

Stay positive, have a good time & Cheers!   :)
-akw-

I really appreciate the starting of the legal action, hope all the best for our shares, and i also apologize that i can't be more helpful with the legal action since i know it will be a very stressful thing to manage for you.

Great work akw. We will get the bastards eventually

thanks for the long update and for doing this on behalf of us !

Thank you for starting this legal action and to take care of our interests.

Hope to hear good news soon.

Good to see matters are being pushed down a legal route, Thanks for the update and your time

Thanks for your effort akw!

Any updates?

Update please.
 >:(

No updates, even by PM since a long ago.
En plein: Neptune + Titan...epic failure...
What I don't understand is the Neptune situation: last news I got from the GB were dated late August, early September and stated that the machines were returned back because when the delivery was attempted akw was on holiday. And then what happened? No news at all...

Starting to suspect that anykeywhy is running away with all the money.

Personally, as we haven't strong evidences of what you've written, i think that it's too early to even mention it. AKW was clear with the timing of a legal action (extremely long), and he should proof without problems the start of this legal action to any trusted member involved in the GB.

Yes, I agree with you about the Titan part and the legal course he started.
What sounds "strange" to me is the silence about the Neptune GB with latest news dated September more or less (machines undeliverable because he was on holiday...and then? What happened?)

Where is the prof that he have NOT got a refund?
Where is the prof that the units are not hashing into akw's personal wallet?

Akw is not a trusted member (see his trust raining), he just have an Sr. Account with more or less neutral trust.

We have no proof.
Where have gone all the shares buyers (both of Neptunes and Titans) of akw GB?
Seems no one is complaining here....

I'm viewing it as a gamble that didn't work out. It was high risk to begin with. I agree with the legal action. Note sure if the question of bounty is still open, but at this point I'm OK with up to 25 or 30%.. Ideally damages will make up for it.

 I imagine it's quiet on the forum because,if others are like me, they only check in every month or so... Don't like to be reminded of it all.

Akw. Hopefully the legal action will work out. Good luck.

Interesting thing is that AKW hasn't been around for quite a while now...

LOL it doesnt matter either way none of us will see any money from this, either this dirtbag took delivery and has been mining with it (which is what i think happened) or we wait and wait and wait for the legal system and by then none of us will even give a fuck. Crypto is just fucked anymore, too many thieves and scammers. good people need to stick together and change this shit, until then this is just a feeding trough for losers that are so desperate they scam random people on the internet for a few thousand dollars. the whole thing is pretty sad really. oh well, mining sucks now for scrypt so even though he may have got the asic, he isnt making shit.

either way fuck you anykeywhy, people like yourself are why this community is dying fast.

I think this is very close to be called a scam.
If you where responsible for GB worth thousands of dollars, would you not spend just a minute or two to give an update, even if the update was "no news"?

AKW: You should give the share owners an update as soon as possible. You should also show all documentation regarding this GB. It is not your money, it is the share holders money. Step up, be a man, prove to the community that you are not a scammer.

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It was so difficult to throw us an email or a PM before going so deep in a new paranoia ? ? ? ? ?
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Hello Guys!

As extensively said before, there are lawyers who are taking care of our positions against KfC, they are professionals that we paid from our own pockets at an additional loss, as you know.
We are the ones exposed in first person (as better analyzed in the previous communications), the ones who are also defending your rights and effectively taking public and REAL responsibility of this horrible situation, beyond the damage. (just to answer to somebody, we are the ones burned for first by this Forum and by the "fantastic Bitcoin mining ecosystem"...).

Please, don't let us remind you that we were not obliged to "go legal" nor to accept major risks, and that we could have realized an investment at a 90% loss for everyone by simply welcoming every shitty move that KfC invents or their wonderful timing policies... probably this would have made you happier or more polite... and our life simpler.


We need to have patience and to understand that we are not the only ones who are acting against KfC.

As we signed an NDA, it's not possible for us to disclose informations nor to directly interact with KfC anymore. It should be obvious that the legal actions are not instant "web-applications" and have their procedures, rituals, time-frames and so on.

When things will start to "officially move", the informations will go public and this situation should get the media coverage (we should eventually push it too). The lawyers are doing their excellent job along with some great strategic move and it's only a matter of time before news will become publicly available...   ;)

As well said before and as usual when talking about "legal cases", the time stretches and the informations are retained so, please, do not expect frequent updates nor any precise or detailed informations since this "kind of things" get defined only at the end by a judge and a court. Talking about what happens in the meanwhile it's only pure non-sense speculation.

Use google first and please stay positive because we are doing our best to bring home the results, sooner or later!


The "smarter guys" among you can take in consideration the whole context too and they have an idea of what the "real world" means and what are the concrete implication of our actions and interactions, what is possible/feasible/realistic/due/rational/reasonable and what it's only a kiddy-caprice powered by the ignorance and the stupidity of some empty mind.
 


*** Again, ALL the machines, both kinds, are kept in hostage by KfC ***

*** Again, THIS thread is the ONLY one in use to avoid info/replies dispersion, please don't post elsewhere ***



Please, contact us via email or PM to catch our attention before blaming or offending us instead of KfC... it would be more "correct" than pretending a 24/7 random-paranoia-appeasement-service on the threads, don't you think?




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Have a great Holiday Season and an Happy New Year!  :)

Cheers!
-akw-

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Please send me your email by PM.
Thanks

Happy New Year!   :)

@akw: are there any news?

I asked you via PM  your email but never got answered.

I would also like to know why the sheets with the shares details for the Neptune GB in the spreadsheet you arranged are hidden and disabled (apart from the useless cover).
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Au-4hDRyLcykdFByVmMzQVhTelhfdmhKb1F6MHg5V1E&usp=sharing#gid=0

Thanks

I've just sent AKW private message asking for update on this. Somehow I doubt he'll answer. He hasn't been online since December. I doubt it that he has started any legal action - no proof was ever shown.
If I'm wrong about this, I apologize in advance to AKW...

Start believing I was correct.

Interesting that everybody just accept that he took their money, I dont see any neg-trust on his profile, expect for a noob who don't actually know how to submit neg-trust.

Sorry for all the people who got scammed by AKW, but he was shady already from the beginning.
With all the colors and "don't be late" sales blather.

Hi guys. Since i was escrow in this GB im staying in contact with anykeywhy. Things didnt go the way that was  planned so i check occassionally the status on things when i get asked.

So what i can say is that i paid the bill directly to knc so that he never did held the user funds himself. Akw created the order in his knc account and the member coins, that i hold until then, went directly to knc. So its correct that akw has the contract with knc. Thats why he is the only person able to sue knc and according to him he did so. He is not obliged to sue since it looks like no one helped him with all the additional costs so far. So he not only lost quite a lot with this GB
surroundings but with these following costs too. There is no proof for the ongoing lawsuit that can be provided because its the same situation for everone sueing knc. NDA's were signed so the only thing is to wait how this lawsuit ends. Though members might monitor the news media about
the lawsuit.

I asked him about all the additional costs and he says:

"I paid and I'm paying all the legal actions costs by myself only and totally from my pockets... No refunds of any type were never given to anybody, that's why we're all against KfC, just to repeat it again and again!

What I'd like to mean is simply that I haven't received (nor processed) any money from anybody and all and every action and "operation" until now has been at my own only complete loss... beyond consequent damages... and so on..."

Thats the status as far as i know it.

Was wondering if there had been any news so I search and come find some answers as of yesterday !

thanks for that, guess we can pretty much kiss this money goodbye sadly. from what i read it sounds like he didnt handle things very well but KNC ( why kfc all the time ) screwed him.


well ill continue to monitor just in case....

Im not sure why he writes KFC. Probably some wording including ...fucking...? :P Your last sentence sounds like a typo too if im not wrong.

thanks Sebastian. I will continue to check....
I hope that the situation will be resolved

update?

nothing to say????

i'd have better played the money i spent on satoshi dice

I am still amazed how people can get away with these kinda of things.... looked at the anykeyhow trust he got a few negative feedback... nothing more... I guess those people with hundreds of shares still trust him that he is making this law suit...... I do not want to be in his place... but if it was me then would I at least conact the share holders once in a while with and update of things are going or not going... even no news is also a kinda of news.

For me, I think I was just believing too much in this all. Unfortunately, believing that everything will find a good ending is just overcredulous. These are not the first bitcoins I lost and also some are lost due to mtgox - for me things like this are lowering the trust in bitcoin and connected parties no matter if akw and/or knc is credible or not.

They say no news is good news, But i think in this case they are wrong...

I have no new info so far, though i didnt ask anykeywhy. I guess ill write anykeywhy an email now and ask if he has any news.

Hi SebastianJu, did you managed to get any news from akw? Did he even replied to you?
Please update this thread if you have any info/news.
Thanks a lot.

I dont have any new infos as of now. Ill send him another email asking him to respond so that i can tell that he is there still at least.

Edit: Ill send him this link too: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1077623 Maybe its worth noting his lawyer about this. It might be interesting.

Was there another thread where i was asked if iam still in contact with anykey?

Anyway.... i got another conversation with him.

He told me that everyone who has questions should contact him directly. Maybe not by pm since it looks like he did not log in since some time.

But he did not vanish. I think thats important to note.

Anykey asked me to tell you that, there are no updates yet but things go further. At the end of this "Nightmare" there will be news since the judges will have the last word. He hopes that it doesnt take years and he is allowed to say absolutely nothing in the meanwhile.

He is sorry for that but works on things moving forward.

Is there any further progress with this ?

thanks for any info :)

I'm pretty sure there is no progress or at least when there is progress he would not be allowed to speak about. I think that is a real fundamental flaw in the law system.

The things that can be said should find it's way in the newspapers.

Sorry that i can't say more but it seems the handcuffs that law system lays on are quite hefty and punishable. Acting against that could be deadly in more than one way. So i think abinding on these rules is the only way to have a chance at all.

Just wanna say thanks Sebastian for all the writing back and forth  :)
We will monitor this tread and see what happens....

I dont suppose we are likely to ever see an update?...

No problem. I agreed on that when i agreed to be the escrow. :)

Well and no new info is right unfortunately. It all hangs on the lawsuit and the special rules that are around it. It would not help anything if he spoke about what goes on and would instantly risk the whole case because of that. I imagine his role is not an easy one. All the pressure on him and he is not allowed to talk.

Anyone have some news here?

You need to watch out for new details coming from the case against KnC. The sueing parties can not reveal anything, otherwise they would risk to lose any chance of winning the case since they had to sign papers. Non disclosure agreements.

I really hate that these kind of papers are allowed. It should never be forbidden to speak about the truth.

Hi SebastianJu, thanks for the updates.
Do you think is possible to contact anykey asking him to provide us an high level overview of the current status of the claim? I mean which steps have been taken so far, timing, etc, without entering into any kind of detais that could affect the claim itself.
I remember anykey told us to contact him via email anytime but in fact I did not get any address from him.
Or if you could provide such information it would be good too.

Thanks a lot.

I sent him an email now. I don't know if he can say anything. As far as I know the lawsuit is still going on and I think such things can be drawn to years. He really fears damaging the case or losing it by speaking about anything. Well, surely shareholders would not be happy with that outcome too.

I surely would not want to be in his skin in this situation. It sounds pretty troubling and stressing.

Purchasing a KNC TITAN was one of the worst decisions of my life, complete waste of 20 BTC. The company illegally refused to cancel my order before shipment (breaking consumer law in sweden and europe), and the fucking thing caught fire. KNC IMO is a criminal company and has killed proof of work for me - proof of stake FTW!

Maybe someone can remind me in a week or so in case I did not get an answer from anykeywhy until then. When I would get I would post something on here.

I am waiting too

Thanks, really appreciated.
Cheers

Hi SebastianJu, did you get any reply?

Not yet but I did send him another email now. He mostly only answered on the second email I sent. Don't know why. :D

Another month later... Any update? I am not into the topic but were there some lawsuits where knc actually "won"?

I do not follow the lawsuit but as far as I know there is one big lawsuit where alot of knc victims are involved. They are not allowed to speak about anything so nothing is known about the progress outside of these persons.

It should be possible to follow the lawsuit throught he press. At least the things we could know should be there.

news?

Nothing from anykeywhy unfortunately. I'm not sure why he does not answer. He answered at least for the second mail I sent him all the time.

News?

No lifesign from anykeywhy so far but I now sent him another email asking him to give a lifesign of his to me. As long as the knc-case is not closed he would not be allowed to give any statements anyway.

Well.. bit weird situation.

Seems like if no one can know something about the legal case, this situation can go on forever. It's a loop, isn't it?
Btw, Anykeywhy doesn't log this forum from years... He could just open the forum and keep update the post with something like: Today status: case is still open.
Can u please send his email address via PM to me? So i can write him personally.

Thank you.

I would prefer to send him another mail first so that he sees that this is not a situation that he should leave unattended.

Thank you Sebastian, please give us a feedback as soon as you can!
Regards.

Will do when I get an answer... maybe remind me to send him a followup email when nothing happened. Previously it worked when I sent the second email but last time he did not react on it also.

I think its time, so please send a followup email. Thanks.

I did so now. If nothing works remind me to send a third email... after that failing I need to try checking out the situation through other means. Well, I doubt there are news anyway but still it's better to hear a lifesign.

Hello Sebastian!
Any update?

Thanks for the reminder... I checked the email account again and I got a message though it does not sound like a good one... :/

Looks like the NDA is not valid anymore anyway then so here what I got. No info he would want me to keep private.

net loss of 0.21 for me, and i'm sure that situation is worse for a lot of users here

Thanks sebju for your time and your services

No problem. I'm sorry that there was no good ending.

good morning, any update in the air?
Thank you.

Update?
thx

They went bankrupt.

http://kncclassaction.com

Si ma penso che ormai il punto non è tanto se ci sia in corso una classaction o meno, il vero punto che akw non si fa più sentire da anni e quindi probabilmente ci ha inculato allegramente. L'unica è farsi dare la mail dall'escrow e provare a contattarlo. Mi è venuto anche il dubbio il mese dopo che è sparito, che la cosa fosse stata tutte orchestrata fin dall'inizio perchè c'è gente nel group buy che ci ha messo 5 o 6 btc e non si è nemmeno fatto sentire ne lamentato una volta...
Spero di essere smentito ma la vedo nera

Hello everyone, any news about this topic?
Thanks

@ Horifatto, sei stato smentito?

Any update? Sebastian?

It would be nice to see some form of a response/update but I doubt we will.
It sad to see this happen on multi group buys and there is rarely/never any repercussions for the people behind them

hello

[premise]
- the other account was blocked (one of the forum db hacks caused a lot of issues...)
- apologies for the delayed update

[recap/update]
- nobody ever touched the funds. they were sent to the company.
- company started misbehaving
- we started suing them (ndas, and so on..)
- several jurisdictions and laws apply
- company went bankrupt
- customers have the lowest priority among all the creditors
- remaining assets of the company went sold (including equipment, stock, parts,...)
- they were not labeled, in any way, they went sold in "some sort of" auction
- other creditors had more priority, we appealed, we lost
- actions still continue on more fronts
- among the rest, the judges decided to review one of the closed cases
- they will update about the above in 2018 or hopefully in several months, beyond possibly having updates on other fronts too
- they said that eventually, in case of "success", some sort of refund would apply
- as there will be further substantial or final updates, they will be reported here in the forum somehow

[where we are]
- please identify the correct subject responsible of this whole situation: the company
- we, us, the escrow, have no responsibility at all over their behavior, actions and so on
- the whole thing is publicly known, we are not an exception, search the web please
- someone is still paying for and following all the legal actions and such, as always...
- nobody of you helped, in any way, never
- obviously, whatever success we would eventually achieve will be shared among all here, less the legal expenses

[considerations]
- we are not in the "far west" but in some developed country, laws apply...
- personal direct or indirect harassments, accuses, damage or whatever else not appropriate or polite will not be tolerated anymore
- privacy in europe is something extremely important, as well as for other rights and so on...
- we, me and the escrow have no personal responsibility at all over what happened with the company
- nobody will break the laws, as always, and nobody will damage itself more than already done
- please eventually select the correct subject/s in your communications and content
- all the communications not compliant with the laws will be at least ignored
- thanks


wishing to you all the best of luck, take care!

Thanks for the response akw, One of the advantages of breaking into mainstream media/knowledge is awareness and hopefully this may assist in the understanding of loss of funds

I can confirm that this user is the new account of the real akw that started the groupbuy back then. I'm in contact with the original user through his email address we wrote through.

Thanks for the response akw, we still have hope.

News?

NEEEEEEWSSS????? Wtf!!

Did anything happened after the temporary akw account posted the lastest comments?

Any update? ::)

@
SebastianJu can you give me the email of Akw? Thanks

Were you able to get that info? I personally tried multiple times in the past without success...