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It's a shame asking a bounty Hunter about a project he is promoting and can't say why he choose the project, some bounty hunters are still promoting projects blindly, they don't do research, mainly when a bounty campaign offers 1 million tokens they think it's huge money whereas the total value is around 3000$ for all campaigns 🤪 and after getting paid complains takes place, who is at fault here?

there is a truth in your point, most of hunters do not research the project, just promote it, and that is also a failing factor for others, since project which could be a scam gets public from hunters, and someone could fall in and invest money based on that, and the project is scam in the end...
always do your research and analysis...

I think it's the bounty hunter's fault is it. I think everyone here in the forum has a responsibility on who are they going to promote right? however we can't blame them since for them it's a free coins in exchange with a little effort on doing tasks.

Even the project cost more than $3000 worth of token come to think the number of participants and all of them wanted to earn no matter how much is it, so what are they going to do is to sell it in a lower price and lower and lower until the token comes valuable however if the project really does worth then no matter how much low they sell the coin it will recover and will rise up.

Well no one know how much will be the price of a token when the campaign is ongoing.
You can only have idea about the price once its listed in exchange and see it in your eyes.
Blaiming them will not help also it is really hard to find now to participate they are also risking thier time for promoting so need to blaiming them.

That's mostly the reason why they chose to promote a bounty. The choice that they did research might be the 2nd reason.

But don't call the majority to be like that because there are still bounty hunters that knows what they do and still cover their choice with research.

You have a point that bounty hunters is also the main problem why they get scammed because they are too greedy to earn huge rewards that they don't have time to check and research the prpkects whitepaper and website. But sometimes even you check the project, it is really hard to say if it is scam or not.

I think it's the wrong person who joined the bounty program. is not before we follow the program we can see and read everything that will be planned by the developer of the program. we can even see how many tokens will be launched. The main determinant of whether or not the prizes we will get is how long we follow the program.

There are still good hunters by doing good research before joining and don't call all those hunters embarrassing because it will offend many people, I think who is blindly promoting the project that shit new users with the rank of newbi so many newbies who join without thinking in the future so that there are still those who promote the unclear project.

Are you sure you are the owner of your accout or you buy from sellers? Your English is way off and even newbies are better than you, I wonder how you get to hero member on this forum

Everyone is responsible for their own actions and results, what ever path bounty hunters choose is all on them, whether they do half research or full research, how ever you lay your bed is how you will lie on it, hard working hunters will always get good results

Ask bounty hunters from Indian  ;D they are always ready to promote any bounty project and they are happy with 20$$ worth of tokens, bounty hunting is no more a precious side job, now it's more than a joke or call it gambling

I know it is a number-juggling method to fool people. That is what bounties have been all along, just now that people are realizing their folly here. A big token number allocation does not mean the value per token is high, rather it will be small since the bounty share is limited of the entire ICO funds. You cant expect the project to give out huge amounts of money to twitter spammers for spamming like a bot.

Yet some people never learn and take part. Of course they are at fault but the bad thing is they dont make amends to their mistakes.

So you saw that too, yesterday I raised question by seeing that shit bounty reward! But the sad part is, Not only newbie, but many high ranked members are also doing that bounty which shocked me badly! Bounty hunter needs to be practical, and do only good allocated bounty, otherwise, they will keep blaming themselves after every bounty ends! Bounty hunter should count the allocation in USD, later they should take the decision. Under 15-20K USD budget, we should avoid those bounties!

It isnt surprising because when people do look that there a bounty that allocations millions of usd then its just normal for a human greed to react with it which ends up on participating
without even thinking the probabilities on getting scammed nor being paid with pennies in the end of the campaign.Everything should really be realistic on the first place
but most of the time they are being blinded by their own greed and desperation on making huge profits out of the task theyve been doing.I cant blame them though
but  at least people should really be concern on researching up everything and somewhat be realistic into their actions.

It's the same reason why people still fall for some scamming tricks today, they are always in haste to make money, they can't spend hours to do research on project because they just can't, too lazy to do research I guess

Don't just blame newbie, please! Some Hero and Legendary ranked people are doing that bounty's signature, so, what you will say about them. 3000$ is the total budget for 3 weeks for all categories where 20% is fixed for the signature campaign but still many full to Legendary members are joining there! So, let them do those bounties for a penny, it's their own choice!

 its already stated if how much is the value of the total tokens and its percent allocation for every kind of tasks  .

 hunters will know if how much they will be getting but they only complain because the payment is not succesful   . there are times that they have been paid succesfuly but the coin is not listed or dont have a value , so they will compain again   . hunters are not to be blame here if they are working properly but the campaign are if they have issues .

True, one million tokens doesn't mean it worth 500k dollars, some bounty hunters don't even do calculation on the token USD value before promoting project, they only learn about the value when trading starts

In your example situation bounty hunters are at fault for not doing their research and just participating in random projects just because the allocated reward seems high not knowing the value if converted to dollars are low.

Some bounty hunters has a mindset like that but not all so dont generalize. I know few bounty hunters who take time researching and asking for advice if their chosen project is good regardless of the allocated rewards for the campaign. What matter is if this particular bounty will likely to succeed and will not take away the money of investors.

We have bad projects and Bad bounty hunters as well, this is exactly what's going on, it seems most bad complains are always from bad bounty hunters, the moment a bounty Hunter start noticing how bad they are they will adjust, research is a necessity

No one's fault on here. Why i said that? Because no one forced people joining in a bounty. That's the risk to join in a bounty where the token isn't on market yet since the price would be much low compared their ICO price and the dev has announced the bounty amount too, it's not their fault either since they didn't hide anything to bounty hunter

When it comes to market price then it cant really be controlled if we do talk the fair way which investors are the main dumpers of those tokens for profit purposes and it isnt surprising.

For the unfair side then if devs would planned to dump all of their token holdings then thats the part that they become shady.We cant directly tell if the team is totally honest or just really aiming for making
money in the first place.

Bounty hunting is part of marketing stuff and it indeed a matter of choice if you do advertise them or not.

Either bounty hunters choose fake or scam projects it's a matter of choice, they will learn if only they want to learn, many only keep repeating their mistakes over and over again, if you know what's good for you then research will be the first thing you do before promoting any project

Thats because some of them are dont care whether the platform they are promoting is good or bad. What could they loss right? But for some people time is important so they researching well to look for a good one. So I think that's a habit we cant comprehend with newbies here.

Profits can be made from not too good promising bounty projects for sure but without research you can't identify these projects that's at least worth giving a try, research is just the ticket and nothing else

See you can do a lot of research and then decide whether to invest or not but for bounty hunters, they dont really care about the project but they are in it for the shitcoins that they have been promised to take off before bitcoin reaches a high value and topple it. These false promises are enough to fool a poor guy living in low economic countries to go for their bounty and they would let team go as it is.

Point is that even a legit start up may fail. It is a bit of a gamble if you see it properly. You cannot deny the possibility of a new company going bankrupt because they are sourcing their funds from a niche market.

Some members that joined the campaign are focusing on the bounty itself not on the projects concept and ideas, but some bounty hunters are supporting the campaign they are includes.
no ones to blame when the project and hunters did not meet their expectations.

Each person has their own decision. So you will not be able to prevent them from participating in bounty in this market, there are many different types of bounty and many different participants. Sometimes they just join the bounty to gain experience so it's not so important

If you haven't earn more merits like me which prevents me from joining BTC paying campaigns, bounty hunting for tokens is the option.
My trading skills isn't the worse I still can trading with BTC and earn few bucks a week but having more tokens to hold while the halving is coming might just be profitable for token bounty hunters specially if bull run suddenly comes. Nothing can get you prepared to buy all the tokens you wanted.

It is true that everyone has the right to decide which projects they want to participate in. I also did not choose the project without being carefully studied and read the project's goals because I trusted the bounty manager and the platform, finally I joined the bounty program there, but most of them didn't get it. many results so I now prefer and research myself

Thats a mistake not knowing your promoting a project that you dont even have idea. Most hunters are like this, but how can you blame someone who onky concern is to earn and not add some knowledge on his brain when it comes to picking a good one.

 
Correct. No need to emphasis how stupid these people keep doing mistakes at hand. Anyway most of them are just robots that doing all the task for money. I wonder if bounty is prohibited for at least 6months. There will be a clean and neat forum for a while if thats the case.

Most times bounty hunters are to be blame because I suspected that many still hate doing research on projects, without research how will one detect the potential of any new project? Many bounty hunters are plain lazy ass

I think it's right to say for beginners because they don't do research, so just playing with the new bounty is what keeps the projects from developing because they are promoted by newbie accounts.
I'm sure the top-ranked accounts will do their research carefully so they can guess even if they are inaccurate and know how the project will run smoothly.

Experienced hunters knows how to do proper research, especially those who are already been a victim of scammed projects, they will choose to select and do some background checks before joining as they will increase the chance to get successful project than to join blindly again and wasted time and effort promoting those projects that doesn't have any reliable potentials.

I dont think so. I feel they are still making same mistakes and following every project with a big allocation in hopes of getting a good price. Some of them maybe have become cautious but for these low income country people, the smell of free money is too strong to resist.

But you will agree that there are projects that turn to a waste of time when the MVP does not generate any market demand. The coin needs to be traded well to reach a good price to sell those tokens. That is though a inherent risk of such projects. A project may fail even if they are not scam.

Not all projects will succeed even if we choose them right but doing research can safe you from time wasting projects, there are different between the two, scam projects and projects that are good but failed

Yes, they are too lazy to research the project, and they want the easy way to make money. Well, that is true, and that is the fact that they cannot deny. They only depend on other people and only follow without research. But we cannot blame them because we don't know them and we don't know what their reason to choose those projects is. Maybe if they can research from many resources, I think they will get good projects so they will get nice rewards too.

They are essentially the same for an investor's point of view. Who cares about the project and what they are developing, you could hold some coins of that for future demand and selling but a person looking for a quick flip would be less concerned about a long term headache. For bounty hunters who are of the same mindset the long term value does not matter.

In any case, the ICO markets have shown that long term holding of these tokens are rarely if ever useful. They mostly end up being pumped and dumped.

It is quite a common tactic for the bounty hunters, they jump to the first available bounty campaign with many participants. Doing research and understanding the terms is the job of a smart bounty hunter, others prefer to follow the leaders. The 1 million token have no value but the given tasks are easy for the average person. This is the fault of both parties, everyone has a different interest in this chain.

We should consider trusting some of our campaign manager, you can rely on to them. Trusted CM would be a great point when choosing a legit project. We should also rely on our own research about the project. If project failed to reach the market cap it's the team behind would be blamed but if in the first place the project is a scam and bounty hunters not aware to it, probably they would the one to be blame with.

This is true story and thats the main motive or goal of most investors on which they do need to take profits as early as they can thats why we do see that
all of coins value when gets listed on an exchange initially would really dumped its price so hard. Bounty hunters do took the blame but actually its investors
itself are securing out once it gets listed.

Following trusted or known manager is much a better step rather than doing some random choices of project.Of course they would choose up
those projects which arent fraud or legit ones but it doesnt mean that it would guarantee success into the project that they do manage.
All things will depend on support of the community if they do found out the project is worth to risk on.

No, not every complain comes from bad bounty hunter, rather it comes because of bad bounty project! Some people never learned from mistakes, they keep doing shit bounties and when they don't get payment, they start spreading negativity! I don't blame them, because sometimes shit projects can give you more money than a decent bounty campaign! I saw people earned 2-3K USD from Airwallet, Wes token bounty, but I did not earn even 100$ from Ferrum, Haratoken bounty!

Just end the bounties altogether. No bounties no complaints.

Sucks to be them. They never learnt to move on to doing some real jobs that can give them money.

Have you been able to spend those coins and cash in that money? Or are you still holding on to it hoping that they get listed on some exchange. If so then very good, but if you are looking for a somewhat stable income and not a place where luck plays a big role, you should avoid bounties.

If that is the case then he missed something what bounty hunters are going to receive are not really the value of the token the real value only comes when it is trade able in the market, I have seen coins going down 90% when it hit the market and bounty hunters are complaining their rewards not what reflect on the price of the token, because it's the market that decides the price, they must take this in consideration.

Every hunters have the right to promote any project they want, either they will win big or small it's none of my or yours business, if I can recollect very well even a bounty project with small allocation turns out better than 100k bounty allocation

yeah small rewards but legit and paying is always better than a 100k bounty that are not sureball if they will pay or not but the op's point is not those small paying bounties but rather the bigger ones  but we shouldnt still blame the hunters because hunters only have an ambition to earn big because maybe in their whole lives they never notice to hold a big amount of money , thats why they are only trying thier luck on the bounties .  i know because i have gone thru this part but even now im still poor although i quit joining bounties/airdrops for good .

even how small or big the rewards is ,you will only know if its worth it for your time once the bounties finish and ended . sometimes all those project with small allocation give high rewards since only few hunter participate on that campaign. unlike popular and high allocation rewards they have many participants want to join.

Even some bounty managers get a lot of projects. Most bounty managers almost do not devote time to studying the project with which they will work, because why need to do it if the bounty manager receives immediately his pay in top altcoins or bitcoin, so thats why there are too many scam bounty companies on this forum.

How do you compare the bad and good bounty projects?

I never if there is a bounty hunter who tells that they got 2-3 K USD form those bounties that you said, is this real?

Maybe you just took more expectations to the bounty project that you joined so as you just give a bad rating for those projects who give a lot of money for the bounty hunter.

Of course they have the right to do that.

Be at the cost of what? Their time, their reputation - both if not more things are important to them. Using that time they would be able to develop some skills instead of hunting behind worthless tokens. Develop some skills that actually will be paying them a decent earning in future.

Thing is that most bounty hunters are in it for the payment. Very few care for what the project really is and what they are trying to develop in the first place.

Its a must thing but most people do neglect such thing but rather continue on wasting up their time and effort into things which are unsure.Its true that its not our business but its just sad to think that they should at least utilize their time into something more productive or to things that can give out positive outcome on due time.Im aint perfect too but i already learned enough and long time stopped on doing bounty hunting due to
unprofitability reason.No one cant stop us in our actions but we should really be sensible or try to look around on whats the actual happening or chances on making money.

If the project successfully listed to the exchange that will be the determining time if the hunters will benefits or received lo value rewards. Even how
big the allocation but the current value from the exchange is not good it's still nothing, unlike those small amount offers where once the project
got in to any exchange the value can be lifted by the developing team since the numbers of tokens are lesser.

People learn by making mistakes. I am sure many of them did learn, while some other just post their anger in different social media channels like the ANN threads, telegram channels, blaming the project or the bounty manager. The basic concept behind this is that free money is a gimmick and does not exist, in reality.

Good thing you changed your ways. Humans are slaves of their habits and being able to change your habit is worth some appraisal. Its not about profitability but about dignity that bounty hunters lose when doing bounties with full enthusiasm and being forced to sell off their KYC for the reward, which again ends up being worthless in the market.

I think new hunters do that thing but old hunters that are experienced in hunting bounty they always look for the bounty pool and the bounty campaign allocation (percentage) if they see its too small they won't even bother to join it, in the case of choosing a bounty My advice just follow Bounty Managers that have a good history of choosing bounties to promote

Some bounties have very low reward pool but after bounty ends they triple in price, like 3x or more, this happened in Cartesi project and tachyon protocol, it's not always about the pool but the quality of the project

true, they dont calculate and do research about the price of the coin if it's worth there effort in joining the campaign, well i was also one of them when joining campaign i just focus on amount of token they will give us,

newbies will realize and learn it when time had passed .

Blaming each other won't give a solution to this scam projects, and when hunters investing their time means they are responsible to choose their project wisely or else they will face the losses.On the other hand scam projects using those hunters to make money for them by stealing others.

that's what I do, I always choose projects with large allocations, but now I am starting to improve, I will choose bounty projects with good quality and have potential in the future

I agree, but even if project had potential on success but there are many participants in the bounty campaigns and they had lower allocation on the campaign, the lower the bounty reward you will earn.

Managers are good no doubt about it but that is not an indicator of a bounty being legit. No ICO is a legal security and thus it is a risk to gather their tokens hoping it will go up in future, same with being a bounty hunter for these shitcoins. You can pump and dump them, then you would be lucky but hoping for the long term rise in price is a wrong thing to speculate on.

Instead we have bitcoin paying campaigns coming up every few weeks so join them instead. But first you should build your account and rank by posting quality posts in different sections of the forum.

In a way, it's wrong because they don't understand the information contained in the campaign, and as long as they follow several campaigns at the same time because they see a lot of value and don't think of a minimum selling price of their income, maybe it should be noted

what else can I do sometimes I just follow the campaign period as long as I get a bounty or token and hoard it and hope the price will go up in the future but sometimes it's not as expected, maybe this is also one of the things that annoy the bounty hunter.

We should always follow their rules mentioned in bounty thread, otherwise, they will not allocate stakes to us. That's why we should be very careful before participating in any campaign, after joining bounty many people will not follow their rules and regulation, at last, they will lose their earning. That's why we should always check the spreadsheet on a weekly basis whether rewards are added or not.

 Bounty hunter should count the allocation in USD. Not all projects will succeed even if we choose them right but doing research can safe you from time wasting projects, there are different between the two, scam projects and projects that are good but failed. Some bounties have very low reward pool but after bounty ends they x2,x3,x4 in price.

Test and choice. That's why they go along with a bounty or a campaign whether they have no idea how much the value will be in the future. I don't think that they see the value but it's just that many bounties are not good to try.

So it's a choice that comes in and at the same time a test of joining. Test in a matter that they are good whatever is the result of the project they've joined. Because many in today's time are not paying anymore so, they have nothing to lose when they try as long as they don't join the scam bounties.

   One thing is bother me, after the end of the bounty many bounty hunters stop promoting the project. It's an
early stage, to get people interested you need to continue to share their content, so other can see and join,
only like that the price can grow, with more demand.
   But bounty hunters think just about initial profit, they stop supporting the project and it's natural that price
will drop. If you truly believe in the project and you wish to see higher prices continue with support even after
the end of bounty.

Many but not all. Some of them whole-heartedly believe that the project is going to be big even if they are made of fool of by others. This is what makes it look bad for that person, eventually he/she will understand that they have put their money into the rabbit hole and would have to hold on to those coins for years to come. Point is that team owners dont care and they started it for making money anyway.

But yes majority of bounty hunters are like that. They blindly promote something hoping it will be big and they get paid for it.

If they dont value much out of their effort and resources wasted then most of the time they wont really matter that much if they would get paid or not.

Chances on getting paid nor able to have that token to have some value is very less compared on past years.ICO turns to be shit and same goes

for the bounty hunting thing.Its been said for how many times that it isnt feasible or worth anymore but there are still people who do still believe and hope.

They were putting a very big expectation for their payment while they were not DYOR. Some hunters have already promoted the scam project and this is the problem. They didn't wanna try to use their effort.
In bounty the total prize cant be calculated.

you are also right maybe it is for the test for the hunters too, or maybe also in order to better understand in the search field for campaigns or prizes, and also for the time being I know that there are many who cheat or take off their project income without caring supporters, So advice "Tests & Choices" from you maybe now I understand this better, thanks

It seems like they are thinking through ego and momentary desires, I think that is why it is meeting a dead end.

  that is also true of many groups who spread good news to attract supporters, then when they reach their support, they seem to disappear without a trace.

Thats where you are getting it wrong. They just want the money, at least most of them but they get really mad if they dont get paid even if they dont know a thing about what they are promoting.

ICOs were born to be shitcoins. It was a failed concept but people jumped into the bandwagon due the hype effect and got ripped off. Without regulation and not being legal securities, tokens are worth nothing. But they did get swayed by the promise that those tokens would be next to bitcoin.  :D

Just like people who believe that bitcoin doubling services are legit and cloud mining is a legit thing, there will be people who join bounties and cry for not being paid anything.

Some bounty hunters get attracted to a bounty campaign for different reasons like polished projects or huge numbers of tokens, I take my time on a bounty project before deciding to promote the project, for me it's all about the use case, not what I'm going to get, better use case means good demand and high value

That's a good point too but i personally thinking about the usecase will not always bring good demand and value. The good use case must be combined with a good market too.

I personally putting market as the first consideration and then the use case of the product as my second consideration.

I guess the one who must be blame is the one who take actions. Everyone who chooses their own path is responsible for their choices so if anyone lacks research for joining a bad bounty, be responsible also for it because whatever the reason you may have, you made a wrong move.

I wouldn't put all bounty hunters in the same group. There are hunters who just wish to make a profit, to sell tokens for some other coin or fiat, and to quit the project. It's not something that real supporter would do. I follow projects even after the bounty ends, I try to be active and share their announcements, the project can't grow and rise in price if all supporters just disappear and do nothing after they got some tokens.
Be an active supporter if you wish to see your project rising, with a passive approach the project will fail over time.

Agree, we should consider both the market and use cases of the product, how can a community and traders get more belief in the product because the product is something which the company has a dedication towards the development to the next level.

True, but I have seen some hunters genuinely working to promote the project as if it was their own project. This type of mentality is going to hurt them severely when the project fails to deliver and cannot payout the bounties. Wiser ones have learnt from their mistakes and stopped taking part in these bounties and moved on to better and more stable modes of earning. The bounty section spam has also reduced much recently but some people are still making new account and taking part in them.

Nobody is going to judge a bounty to be bad or good because the world is like that, you need to learn to judge and face the consequences of your judgement.

Well, I used to do that always as long as participating in a project, no matter what, the most important thing was that I got paid, but as time went by, I knew that if we just blindly didn't know what the price would be like, but now I prioritize meticulously and finding ways to not take too much time

Yes, usually when the submission has been approved and the spreadsheet is listed, sometimes it takes a few days to be updated and the stakes can still be empty even though we have been working on the commands of the Rules, now sometimes it's been up to 2 weeks and still not updated and still empty, now it looks like that's where it becomes lazy to do it but yes in the end the spreadsheet is updated but usually because we are lazy we've been left behind a few weeks,