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This forum is RACIST staring today they not paying posters coming from
Nigeria, Pakistan, India or Indonesia Egypt and Venezuela, they should have treated every poster individually and not based on their nationality
I'm not from any of those countries but I feel this is a Racist move and should not be taken lightly

I have a member account here  but definitely not going to go back on this forum because of this issue

I hate RACIST


Correction the ID could be Indonesia or India I have to clarify that I just got it from one posts coming from one member

India or Indonesia?

It's not racist, it's just lazy. Instead of moderating the forum they took the easy route and decided to ban certain countries. Spammers will use VPNs and will continue to spam.

This is truly unacceptable and not a good move for a forum who are giving an impression that they are here to promote crypto project. This move means their admin team is really poor to manage the forum.

Controlling spam is a challenge for any community but instead of doing their job they are just denying users from some territory! There are a lot of users from these countries who have good knowledge about crypto and has contributed a lot to the crypto community. You can not call them spammers just because there are spammers in those country. Spammers are everywhere.  

This must be Indonesia. India would be IND.

That's Indonesia exactly. IN is for India.

@OP, it's not about racism but they stopped users from these countries possibly based on the stats they've got on their dashboard which would have shown that most of the comments are coming from those countries as well as a lot of them (after being moderated) are considered to be low-quality or spam as shown in their message. They belong to Russia, at least you should thank that they have allowed other countries too instead of keeping it limited to RU only. But yeah, to what I've seen and known about Yobit and cryptotalk, I think they'll definitely allow these countries some time later (maybe) or the best option was already told by suchmoon - VPNs.

I think the problem is that people expect too much from Yobit. It has been an exchange that didn't ever care about any of their users, nor their reputation that went south as result of their shady actions. I can see why people get upset about this since it's very easy money they are missing out on now, but there isn't much that you can do but to move on.

It's safe to say that their campaign will either be paying like 10-100 satoshis per post, or stop entirely. Even Yobit will come to the conclusion that their forum doesn't stand a chance against any other crypto forum.

They mentioned 95% what about those 5% that will suffer from their action, they should have treated it in a case to case basis, they just want to cut their payout, because they cannot keep up anymore with the growing number of new member, I will not be surprised if they lower the rate to 500 satoshis or they will only credit 10 to 20 posts, this is going to be a dying forum.

That's what I thought too. They didn't solve any issue at all but they instead encourage more spamming from all over the world because of VPN. Yobit signature is done and from the looks of it, I don't think it will last. Once they stop incentivising posters, spams will die down eventually. It sucks that they won't get their payment though.

How will they make sure that the posts from these regions are not being paid ? If they only check the IP then they can be deceived by the VPNs. For sure, the spammers are wise enough to use the VPN and keep doing what they are doing  or they will start KYC on their forums. This method (KYC) can be more appropriate if they want to stop some specific countries people to get paid.

Cryptotalk is always been a controversial forums and they keep on doing the cheap things which they think will improve the post quality but steps like these won't help. And mind it not all the the posters from these countries produces spam.  
All the mods on that forum are from the Russians and in future they may admit only Russians to post.  :D

Well isnt cryptotalk just yobit and their foray into forum waters.
Yobit is known to be owned and operated by russians.
Just look at the picture used as their avatar.
It is a photo of stalin which was a tyrant so what were you expecting from them really? :-[

It's silly to say that this is racist  ::) They stated a very clear reason, they stopped paying because of the everlasting spammer  :) What do you think this is racist? They did not mention the issue of race here, the people who post in those languages are pathogens. If I'm not mistaken, there is a language (here) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=60101.0) that is also locked in this forum, the cause is by the spammers (they abuse it for continuity posting) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=60101.msg24220987#msg24220987). The same goes for Cryptotalk, they reserves the right to cancel payment instead of moderating with spammers

The notice says no payment, it does not mean they ban these languages  ;)

This goes down to moderators not doing their job properly if they are doing it, they will send a warning to spammers not to spam but they are not banning people, they are only banning multiple accounts, spamming has no nationality it goes on individual character, they should just stop this pay per posts and just make themselves an ordinary forum, and add more category and local boards.

after reading your post and looking at the cryptotalk forum, I realize that they may have their reasons in this case. look at the people who create topics, post a lot to the point of doing 30 posts a day and also see who are the people who have a lot of likes and high reputation who will realize that there are a lot of people with multiple accounts and who don't know what they are talking about when do some post

Looks like they generalize it all. If the rules are just going to be applied like banning the low quality posters after a warning they may not have to ban a whole posters from a country. There are certainly great users from different countries, I have to say my friends from India and Pakistan contributes a lot to develop websites content. Its their forum though, but probably some suggestions should be considered by the admin of cryptotalk.

What did people expect from a forum ran by YoBit? YoBit is a scam. They are quite happy to steal bitcoin from anybody who they can lure to their scam exchange with Ponzi schemes and made up tokens which don't exist. Why is anybody at all surprised that a company which shows absolutely zero decency is willing to ban entire countries? They don't care about their users, only about fleecing them for their bitcoin.

The only thing they are here to promote is themselves. Given that everything they do is about maximizing their own profits at the direct expense of their users, it is no surprise that instead of paying for moderators to actually deal with the problem, they just take it out on the users instead.

Why is anybody still using YoBit?

They are the reason themselves to attract spammers to their ground if you're considering this 30 posts thing, because they are allowing their users themselves to make that amount of posts and also get paid for it (even though a buck, $1 is still something in developing countries which is why people will do anything - from making alt accounts to making unnecessary content and posting there and now they are complaining about spam - they were the ones who tried their best to convert this forum into a spam garden until a manager was assigned to manage the users.

Spam is not the fault of yobit, it is the fault of people who abuse the opportunity that yobit is giving them. from what I searched, in cryptotalk it is allowed to do a maximum of 30 post per day, this does not mean that people must do 30 post per day.... But unfortunately many people are creating alt accounts and make 30 post per day. yobit would have to do something to end these abuses

They invited a bunch of locusts to come and stay and now the locusts have stripped the joint bare they seem surprised that they're no longer welcome.

I'm sure there are plenty of decent posters from those locations. I'm also sure there are many more shit ones.

They're not giving them the boot for fun. They weighed up the stats and acted accordingly. 

Sure it isn't their fault, but they've done least efforts to figure and fight it out, the first was the trailer that was seen on this forum when they allowed 20 posts a day to the users without anyone moderating them (2 times in a row if I'm not wrong when they did it without any manager and still paid their users for posting shit) and third time, when they were highly pressurized by Yahoo here to put it down to (first) 10 and then 5 posts max per day to be counted, they decided to stop the campaign here and shift everything at cryptotalk. Don't get me wrong, but what's the need of allowing 30 paid posts daily when they know they'll definitely fail in preventing spam? Why can't they lower the paid posts to 5 or 10 itself? That'll definitely let those users not post above 10 posts because they (spammers specifically) solely post for pennies and nothing all they want, they don't give a fuck to the forum's reputation nor theirs, they just need money and that's it. Why are cryptotalk people allowing this number at the very first point? Think.

Theyre trying to build up a forum which would really be similar to this place but i would say that it wont really be that easy no matter how generous they are when paying up people just to lurk in into their forum.

I heavily agree into that point above that this action would be either totally a RACIST move or just simply a LAZY one yet they do want to get rid of spammers out of all of those places.
This act does really shows how centralized this place is which is totally contradictory if we do talk about the true essence of crypto.

If anyone thinks cryptotalk is racist because of their choice, then what about Netflix, Spotify, some services and games on google play and etc that aren't available in some countries? Is this racist too? If anyone thinks yes, then idk what to say.

To make things even more clear, I have to ask: Why bitcointalk doesn't have each board for every country and why are some countries mixed together in Other languages/locations section?
Nor this, nor that action is racist. It wasn't just beneficial for them and decided to do what was needed and as suchmoon mentioned, it was just lazy behavior from them, easy deal.
And P.S. Google VPN in case you don't know what it is.

KYC would even make matters worse for them. Cryptotalk was created to be an open community just like bitcointalk and spamming has been a thing with forums for as long as I can remember. The best way has always been to moderate posts made in posts. Asking for people's personal information different from registration details defies the purpose. Their forum is getting into deep mess. Because the spamming won't stop there. They'll end up banning my countries to limit the countries that can connect to their website.

For those who doesn't know, Cryptotalk has always been censored. You say foul things about cryptotalk, you get banned. You say ill of yobit like complaining about their unresponsive customer support, you still get banned. The people there are just posting in fear.

This is a racist move. I know they won't ban people from Russia because that's where their admin team is based. So much for the "Bitcointalk" killer.

I'm struggling to think of anyone I would trust less than YoBit with my KYC documents. Given just how scammy they are, I have zero faith in their security practices, and I have complete faith that my documents would be sold to 10 different people within a week. I'd prefer to open a credit card, write the PIN on the back of it, and hand it to a complete stranger.

Of course they do this. They are not interested in having a discussion forum, in building a community, in contributing to bitcoin or crypto as a whole, or any of the things this forum does. They are interested in one thing and one thing only - how to get their users to sign up to YoBit so they can steal their bitcoin.

Cryptotalk is dying. Now if only YoBit would do the same.

Even ignoring the sheer stupidity of requiring KYC to post on a forum, the result would still be more or less the same. Honest users (if such users exist on Cryptotalk) would go away or would get fucked by Yobit reselling their docs, and spammers would submit fake docs if it's worth it for them to continue spamming.

Their whole model of paying pennies for shitposts is doomed to fail.

You are right its completely shit forum if some one able to check may be we have very few quality posts from 1 million posts because its just doing all this for traffic not quality or any thing. Mods completly fail to control this all shit so they ban few countries or may be this is trick from them for few days or blockcing payment for thousands of posts which was in pipeline for last few days and gone without payment because this ban can hurt them more then 50% peoples on this forum was from these countries Indonesia, Nigera, Pakistan, Egypt and Veitnam.

I don't think it's a the right comparison here. Netflix,Spotify,etc don't provide services for users from some countries because of legal conditions as they have to take governmental authorisations to run some services that are sometimes forbidden by law. When it's not the case with cryptotalk who is lazy/silly to moderate the spam caused by the forum policy itself and accepts to be called "racist".
I used to know Yobit as the most ignoring company who didn't ever care about building the good reputation, but what would they do with spammers from allowed countries.
It's a total shit forum, i am not surprised.

A shitty forum trying to get rid of shitty members/spammers?  :D

Sooner or later i wont be surprised if their current per-post campaign would be stopped and in result, those fellas who do just hang out into that place for satoshis will flock away.
In result? It would be dead sooner or later.

Cruptotalk is not the only forum who pays users for posting. I was invited recently to moderate a local board in one of them but i left it because the admins think it's a good method to invite more users but ignore that the forum will dead once stop paying.
I can guess that cryptotalk is not about to fight spammers, but just reduce the amount to pay for users as the forum got a lot of traffic from bitcointalk and may has more users than we think.

To what I see, Yobit is exhausted now and not able to pay their users anymore. Trust me, this thought came to my mind just when I started thinking about their marketing strategy - they come, they spread spam, they leave. This time, they didn't get the chance here, they stopped the campaign here on this forum (or maybe they were exhausted as the funds would have been over, they already gave signals while not paying for around 2-3 weeks 2 times). They kept their cryptotalk campaign active in their forum to keep that place active, they wanted to stand as a competitor against Bitcointalk thinking that potential investors would buy ad spaces, start signature campaigns there and whatnot, but they entirely forgot the main thing and that's - SPAM. They didn't stop it but promoted it by paying for 30 posts and users took sheer advantage of the same, now when they are seeing that people are posting even shittiest of the comments to get paid that buck per post and while BTC's value has started to rise, they are probably looking to wind up their ongoing campaign on their forum too and end this once and for all for some more time. May be they won't come back again considering that BTC is poised to rise during this year and upcoming years.

Judging from all the post here, Cryptotalk is trying to survive I think one thing that will contribute to its demise is not listening to their posters, posters have been trying to convince the admins and moderators to install a notification when member posts were deleted and adding more categories and local boards but its falls in deaf ears.

That's another dilemma .
Cryptotalk has no intention to improve itself by any meaning. All what they focus on is advertising the platform that will advertise (for) Yobit .
I joined it for a short time but found nothing special with a lot of lacks for a probable progress .

The moderators are incompetent, they keep deleting posts but not giving notification on what posts they are deleting so members can improve, when I was active I have 10 of my posts deleted and I never remember spamming the forum or posting shit, it's only a matter of time before this forum is over.

I will agree with them if they give a reasonable excuse though i dont care about cryptotalk forum due to their messy forum software BUT this act of removing some country is better called an INJUSTICE rather than RACISM.
People that react to this thread should comment based on the sincerity of the issue at hand rather than feel that it does not affect them or their countries, cryptocurrency is a worldwide event and no country should be exempted.

As for me, the best thing that they should do is just to ban spammers from those countries instead of generalizing and labeling them as low-quality posters. Deserving participants should still be given a chance. There are still great posters from those countries for sure that are worth paying. Anyway, that's their decision and we can't control it. Maybe they see that as a way to improve their site easily.

Getting rid of spammers is really a step on improving one sites reputation but banning generally is somewhat do give out that negative impression.
It would be understandable if this one implied on gambling sites but not for a forum.They are just lazy to clean up the mess thats why they do go
into such decision which isnt really that right.

I did mention that people can easily bypass this restriction on other cryptotalk thread, all they are doing because they are slowly falling apart?

Now everyone from those countries need to make 100 posts to get paid for their posting.

Better avoid and let them deal with ghosts. :)

I have an account here but not login anymore I have this feeling that they will add more countries and ban more people, they want very good posters but they do not want to add more categories and local boards and they are not also locking old threads so new people coming in will post the same answer.

How they will find it quality if the topic is always answered the same ways as others.
 the MoD there will have many works since there are many user's registered because of the payment they need to watch and reviews post activity of evey user's so it will not be abuse.

And banning a country is not a good idea if you just want to clean the forum.

The big question now is? can they keep up, can they really stop spamming there because these ban accounts can easily create another account using VPN and same spammers will spam the forum, they should add more moderators and limit the number of people signing up, last time I checked the site there's always a new sign up almost every minute.

It's lazy but also racist.

Like really, last I checked they were paying 1000 sats, or around 8.5 USD cents at the moment. Max comments per day were 100... In the US 8.8 USD or (100 paid comments) are close to the minimum wage. Even if someone completes so many comments it's only natural that they get the content from not so developed nations. I do agree with OP that they're racist to call those people spammers. If they're treading behavior individually then it wouldn't be racist but they rather ban an entire country. In the process they also harm people that were investing time in ranking up their accounts so they can get paid...

Even 2$ can be survival cash for a day for these people. Instead of giving them an opportunity to see if at least SOME are good, they just ban the entire country's IP range? Cruel. Of course more messages were going to come from these nations. There it makes more sense do do such activity... Probably though they also don't want to deal with so many people. There's already enough supply for their needs from other parts of the world.

They just decided to not pay for messages from these countries, it's their right. You can be mad for that, you can use bad words to describe the owners, but that is a wrong thing to do. They decide where will they spend their money, if they think that these countries give bad material why would they pay for that? Would you pay for something that is not good?

I don't know from where they got this calculation, but probably they crosschecked IP addresses and banned accounts, or tagged accounts, I don't know, it's not really even matter. If you think that they are wrong write them some official complaint, send a mail to their team... if you think that you are a good poster ask them to check you and maybe if it's possible to treat you differently!

I feel sooner they will completely close their pay per post campaign once people from banned countries start with new via VPN and reaches a minimum number of posts to get paid which is 100 for now. When someone doesn't want you then why you bother to be there we have bitcointalk where no racism is encouraged and everyone is free to post.Let's join here. ;D

Of course they are not there just to post, can you see every time there are issues about payment and transfer of balance hundreds are quick to post about their experience and thousands have already express dismayed about those deleted posts , as if they only care about the incentives so they don't want their posts deleted.

they dont even need to post complain here since this forum is not related in cryptotalk and no one can help them here if their country ban from that forum .
The complain should ask in that forum not here you can ask a question's there or send them an email about the issue of banning a country if you think your country deserve to unban. ( posting it here will not change thier decision) .

One thing for sure, when CT problems could even end up here, Bitcointalk remains supreme :D

But back then YoBit did advertise their sig campaign here, that's why many still tend to associate this forum with CT.

They might implement a KYC soon because that is the only way they can guaranty that one account per forum or they might use a good software that can detect members that are using VPN and all those good members that have using VPN since the start will perish if they implement this kind of feattures.

Maybe they find to many abusers from that specific countries that's why they ban them up for entering in their platform and you cannot do nothing with it since they are the one who's paying since its their choice to select. But I believe they will close that option since there are so many users who abuse their site.

it will harder for them to have more user's if they want to have KYC before you can participate in paid to post forum. But its possible since they are exchange they can ask it there and required it.

i guess they make that campaign to leave this forum since they recieve many negative feedback from user's so i dont think they are still active here.

Check again, I wrote to write it and send it to their team. Posting the complaint on their forum is also a good idea. Of course that this forum has nothing with cryptotalk and yobit, I don't know how you saw that in my words.
Anyway it will be hard to change their opinion, op should try do talk with their team (as we all know yobit team is slow and they are hard to catch sometimes) and to see what will they say about all this. All I can say is that decision once made is hard to be change.

Its their forum and rules made or implied should really be followed into its users but it doesnt mean that it cant be announced or talked on other places like this one.
We do have different perceptions into things and as majority been talking on here its clear that this one do shows on how lazy they are on handling out spam and
just ban hammer all of those countries to get rid of it which isnt really that right at all if were to say but well same as been said, its their forum and their own decisions
or rules would be followed.Racist or not its none of our business. ;D

To me discrimination would be the right word. So you get a few people spamming and the "solution" is ban entire countries? What kind of people do that? Perhaps they really are racists, i don't know... But I'm really glad i stayed away from both their forum and campaign. People doing this kind of wanton ban only deserve boycott.

One of the comments appears to have hit the nail: this has the looks of an exit scam. Why bother paying people when they can simply call them spammers and ban them instead? This is THE reason i stayed away from them: Unlike other campaigns, they coordinate things offsite, and pay using their platform rather than directly sending funds to your wallet. This seemed fishy since the beginning, why they could retain people's money on a whim.

I say stay away from Yobit and Cryptotalk, shame on them, and shame on those carrying their signature. Its really disgusting.

And yes, here in Venezuela people are paid about 5$ a month for a full time job, some of us are surviving by working online. I don't condone spammers, but people should be evaluated individually on a case by case basis.

That you could use a vpn or proxy to fool them is no excuse for discrimination. If anything this only shows their ineptitude managing a campaign, or administering a forum. I cannot imagine trusting my money to that exchange of theirs. They should just quit and close doors for all i care.

They have added two more countries Philippines and Bangladesh, it looks like the list will grow because in a real sense spammers do not have a copy and every country has a share of spammers, they should have made it to all Russian forums I don't have anything against my Russian brothers they are doing great here, it's just Cryptotalk don't want other local boards.

So racism becomes perfect for cryptotalk?

But why they keep adding the countries, they could entirely ban everyone from using their forum then they can have a clean place, right? ;D

Most, thankfully. It's easy to see why because the members have harbored some grudge against the CT posters.

They included my country the Philippines when some of the best posters here are from that area, is it really 95% the figure is very high and unacceptable, they should consider these 5% good posters and they just ban individually, now people hate Cryptotalk and not this spammers.

You need 100 posts to start getting paid, you will be paid for a maximum of 30 posts a day, that is 2.5$ a day.
Of course, I highly doubt that anyone has just one account most are farming them and posting with maybe 5 to 10 a day.


They don't need to implement KYC on the forum, all they have to do is ask for KYC when withdrawing funds from yobit if you have % let's say of your funds coming from the crypto talk campaign. That would curb instantly the number of bot accounts there.


People should understand that the guys from yobit are not stupid.
They have not banned countries just because of the spam, they have made calculations before that, looking at their clients for their shitty ICOs.
When they realized that 99% of the people from those countries are there just to posts and don't invest a cents in their scam schemes, of course, they have pulled the plug.

Crypto talk is their tool for making money also, they won't be paying endlessly for something that doenst make them money in return.

racist? no, its not about skin color or hair color.

Yes traffic from this countries is trash from 99%. No way. They likely pay longer time to valued traffic. Right move.

Well said.!

Spending on something do really have corresponding motive and seeing things that doesnt benefit out would really be cut-off.
I do see for it to be normal for any companies to done such action but they should at least not too obvious.Banning multiple countries?
Not all posters are spammers but to say that their forum is just good due to few sats given as a payout.Imagine if this one would be removed out
and this would be a ghost town.

Yeah, it completely changed the way I was thinking about Yobit's decision. Definitely a great explanation by you that because the demand of their forum is about those people investing in their scam ICOs but these guys were just posting and withdrawing their coins, Yobit decided to cut off their country's names from the list of paid countries to stop themselves from spending more on those who are not profiting them. Well, let's just think for a moment that if signatures are removed from this forum itself, what will the scenario look like?

I didn't bother to check it also as the forum members keep on growing, this will surely happen in the future either they will stop the payment or they will lower the number of members that they are going to pay. Upon checking, the forum is running for how many months already and this is the only time that they do this because their users have skyrocketed and it will be a burden for them to pay them all.

Paying like 5-10 btc a day will surely make them bankrupt if they will not stop or reduce the users, I cannot blame you also if you will consider them as a racist but I am 100% sure that they are not racist instead they are almost out of balance to pay for their users.

Instead of discriminating posters from those countries, why don't they try to have the courage to check on every participant's posts and just remove those who aren't following the rules. Sometimes, laziness could lead to destruction. It's offensive on good posters' part who could contribute and share something for the growth of the said site.

Now list is increasing as two more countries added Bangladesh and Philiphine so look like something bad going to happen this forum as they are banning most active countries for this forum and not increasing quality of mods for controlling this all hopefully this shit is going to end in next few days.

The list didn't only increase. They also even disabled the report button because people were spamming it with fake reports to keep spamming without getting reported and thus banned. :D


That's what happen when the main focus of your forum/website is lure spammers to make as much money as possible. It's a cat and mouse game.

I wonder how long they'll last. Next thing is that it takes a minimum of 200 posts to be eligible for payment.

If they are going to make this 200 posts nobody will create an account here anymore, in fact there are request to make it 50 and check every posts if the posters deserves to be part of the forum, they will know right away on the first ten posts if the posters is a potential spammer or will continue to the growth of the forum.

They knows very well that if this happens then it's time for them to say bye bye.

Honestly speaking, I wonder how they are still surviving? Some of these people keeps making meaningless posts just to get those sats. In that site you will not find a good content which a visitor can actually learn something.

Redundant is the right word, all the answer are all the same, each poster is giving the same answer on a different word format, I can hardly find a good tutorial there, and I also don't like the script they are using, it's an experimental script, some members are requesting features but it seems the management cannot add these features because the script won't allow it.

This Invision Community theme costs good money. Check the price  (https://invisioncommunity.com/buy)here. And I am sure they are not using the free version. Whenever they need anything they needs to knock their support.

In cryptotalk's case I think they do not have any inhouse team. Without an in house team the communication is not that easy with a third party to run a smooth website.

What if you paid $1 a year to be on that forum?  That would take care of the spammers, and they could open up payments to those countries again.

the main problem is the spam post make in that forum just to earn sat's.
The solution is simple,remove that paid to post on that forum and make a campaign that they can choose who will be qualify to be part of it ,without even banning any single country .

They just need to choose wisely who can participate and who will be paid in that campaign in that case the spam made by the spammer may  reduce.