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Title: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: jackg on March 05, 2020, 06:46:09 PM
Edit: I bought a mask, I'm fairly neutral on the topic now but it became law and I'm not of an age where coronavirus should have little affect so it makes sense for others' protection.

if you're going to wear a mask, make sure it has a ridge on it and that you can breathe in and out normally without the mask moving. IF YOU BREATHE IN OR OUT HARD IT SHOULD MOVE SLIGHTLY BUT SHOULD MOULD BACK AND NOT ENTER YOUR MOUTH - IF IT ENTERS YOUR MOUTH AND GETS WET THEN IT'S POINTLESS. I used mjnd continuously for 5 hours and it seemed to have little effect on me.




They won't protect you and you're just adding more waste to the land and water... They also don't cover your eyes which is probably how most infection gets in.

According to healthline (https://www.healthline.com/health-news/how-to-protect-yourself-while-traveling-during-the-coronavirus-outbreak) and many other sources, COVID-19/the novel coronavirus has a diameter of ~120nm while face masks only have a filter up to 300nm. I've been looking through information on facemasks have two main purposes:
1. Industrial: This is where someone is commonly working with small particles that need to be blocked going into their respiratory tract, such as wood workers and the like. Thre is also a use case for these in China for their pollution levels since carbon particulates above 100 micrometers in size are known for increasing the risk of asthma and 300 micrometers are known for producing carcinogens pretty quickly (I hope i got that the right way round).
2. Medical: Contrary to what a lot of people would thiink, the N95 model (I'm told is the most popular in medicine) actually just stops the surgeon/practitioner from projecting salivery deposits onto a patient and aren't actually for reducing the amount of infection spread between the two - probably the reason most doctors actually don't wear these. Quarrentine outfits probably give the doctor a certain amount of time in with a patient before they're changed, or have additional tuping to allow for them to receive air from outside the quarrentine unit (either that or they have more advanced filters, there's probably some fancy electrostatics devices for this sort of thing).

Anyway, your face masks just mean you're improving everyone else's air quality and may mean your immune system starts to become complacent (well if my nose is already covered, I clearly don't have to do anything)...

And the eyes link back with the same tubes as your nose and mouth, hence why when you have strong eye drops, you can taste them in the back of your mouth or when you throw up you feel your eyes burning a little.



IF you're under 35, it's highly unlikely it'll kill you.
If you're over 35 but are still pretty healthy, you shouldn't face much issue with it either. I've known 60&70 year olds to have caught pneumonia and barely noticed it (just got a temperature and shivers). If you worry about it too much or you're not healthy, that's when problems can start to arise and probably the hope with a lot of mainstream media that you will catch something and give a payout to big pharma (I'm looking at you USA)..


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: mindrust on March 05, 2020, 06:53:33 PM
If the people who carry the virus are already around you, you are probably already infected.

If you are going to get a mask, get something like this:

https://images2.imgbox.com/22/31/GQ0wKUMR_o.jpg

The others are only toys.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: TECSHARE on March 05, 2020, 11:53:05 PM
I have been told by an associate who specialized in studying pathogens that an N95 - FFP2 or FFP3 rated mask is actually sufficient for providing at least some protection against the virus. He did explicitly say just a plain N95 mask was not enough.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: coins4commies on March 06, 2020, 03:18:55 AM
Its only going to protect you if someone sprays droplets directly at your face.   That is not how most virus is contracted but its relevant in the context of a healthcare professional who is leaning their face towards the face of the symptomatic patient.  Walking down the street with one on is pointless.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Ailurophile on March 06, 2020, 04:07:52 AM
Thanks for the information seems like the face mask is only being hoard to get it's price up.
They are making a lot of money because of this face mask I have seen some people who are selling face mask at a high price and bundle of it and have some high minimum box per order.
They are buying it due to their panic and wants to prevent from getting the virus but now that you have explained it I think they are just wasting their money.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: josephsonand on March 06, 2020, 06:08:04 AM
What nonsense. The mask will provide at least minimal protection but in fact even more than the minimum. At least the sources of virus penetration into your body will become many times less.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: joeypan on March 06, 2020, 07:25:14 AM

Anyway, your face masks just mean you're improving everyone else's air quality and may mean your immune system starts to become complacent (well if my nose is already covered, I clearly don't have to do anything)...


How could you speak the crap things like this out?


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Jet Cash on March 06, 2020, 09:07:02 AM
Thanks for that factual post Jack.

As I have said many rimes, the current Corona Virus doesn't spread by aerosols, but by droplets. So masks aren't much use unless a person is only a couple of feet in front of you, and coughs directly into your face. The problem comes when the droplets fall onto a surface, and you pick them up and move them to your eyes or mouth. Don't wash face masks either, and this expands the holes in them. You realise the stupidity of people when you see them wearing face masks, but not wearing gloves.

Your best protection is not to smoke or vape. Smoking increase ACE-2 receptors, and the virus uses those to bind to your cells. Strengthen your immune system with a healthy diet, and the avoidance of all vaccinations. Don't take any pharmaceutical or recreational drugs, as they weaken your immune system. Maintain an active sex life to stimulate blood flow and restful sleep.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Naida_BR on March 06, 2020, 11:08:06 AM
I have been told by an associate who specialized in studying pathogens that an N95 - FFP2 or FFP3 rated mask is actually sufficient for providing at least some protection against the virus. He did explicitly say just a plain N95 mask was not enough.

General organizations suggest to use FFP2 and FFP3 types of mask.
FFP2 give you a 75% protection and FFP3 99%.
There is a huge difference in the price of those two masks but what you pay is what you get.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: IIV on March 06, 2020, 02:11:13 PM
Whatever your government may say, wearing a mask could be highly effective in saving you and your family from coronavirus.

Coronavirus spreads primarily through the respiratory droplets that infected people sneeze, cough, or exhale.
These droplets can enter your lungs directly through your nose or mouth while you are near to them or through touching the materials that consist of these droplets like door handles, cash or handshakes. For that to reach your nose and mouth, you just need to bring your hand close to your nose or mouth.
Though the virus is smaller than the pores in your mask, it can still stop the larger droplets from easily going inside. It would also stop you from regularly touching your mouth and nose.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Jet Cash on March 06, 2020, 04:17:48 PM
@ITV
but the droplets can only stay airborn for a few feet, so a mask isn't going to help you unless you are robbing the supermarket, or someone coughs straight into your face. This virus isn't the same as previous ones, which were aerosols, and could carry through the air con systems.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: tvbcof on March 06, 2020, 04:42:45 PM
Just be sure to carry your cell phone with you if you wear a mask because it screws up the current crop of facial recognition software.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: coolcoinz on March 06, 2020, 06:03:30 PM
They won't protect you and you're just adding more waste to the land and water... They also don't cover your eyes which is probably how most infection gets in.

Yes, listen to the man. Wear glasses with your masks!

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IF you're under 35, it's highly unlikely it'll kill you.
If you're over 35 but are still pretty healthy, you shouldn't face much issue with it either.

And if you're 35, not over and not under, you have to decide for yourself if it will be highly unlikely or just unlikely. :D

In reality, masks protect the people you interact with from being sneezed or spit at and contracting a virus this way. It doesn't protect you if you get in close contact with a sick person The virus will still land on your face and you'll later rub it into your eye, scratch yourself and get it under the fingernails, get it on your colar or scarf and later onto your lips.
I'd simply avoid large masses if there were a lot of infections in my area. People in Asia travel by packed underground trains a lot and this is probably the easiest way to catch a few germs.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: IIV on March 11, 2020, 03:45:07 AM
Here the guardian have their say about face mask.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/10/can-face-mask-stop-coronavirus-covid-19-facts-checked

The authorities asks not to buy a face mask because people may overbuy it making it scarce for the ones that needs the most like patient, their relatives and healtworkers.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Tash on March 11, 2020, 05:16:57 AM
Mask protection levels
https://postimg.cc/3dcRCrQr

The other day a  101 year old (https://headtopics.com/uk/101-year-old-pensioner-who-was-diagnosed-with-the-coronavirus-recovers-11702137) recovered,  96 year old  (https://www.viralbake.com/96-years-old-recovers-from-coronavirus/) recovered, a 73 another 100....

Viruses have been around forever, how about this for successful treatment
https://youtu.be/VrhkoFcOMII


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: jackg on March 11, 2020, 05:22:31 AM
Here the guardian have their say about face mask.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/10/can-face-mask-stop-coronavirus-covid-19-facts-checked

The authorities asks not to buy a face mask because people may overbuy it making it scarce for the ones that needs the most like patient, their relatives and healtworkers.

That news report seems a bit philosophical to me. I don't know the definition of "critically ill" but coronaviruses have complications of causing pneumonia, which, in most cases 70+% of healthy individuals will show fever like symptoms and then go on its own... Generally the problems from coronavirus afaik are caused by hemmorrages opening up in alvioli thar t can't clot and die in typically vulnerable patients, which greatly increases symptoms of pneumonia and can turn it into a propagation stage where recovery becomes inevitably unlikely (in around 2.5% of coronavirus patients and a tiny number of pneumonia patients).

They also don't seem to mention face masks at all but the rest of that information seemed reasonable.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Kuffy on March 11, 2020, 05:43:09 AM
You have to be careful with the Guardian - it pushes many of the globalist projects, and is often inaccurate. For example, current versions of the virus are not aerosols. They don't mention ACE-2 receptors, and the increased risk from smoking ( which increases the ACE-2 receptors). No mention of gloves being better than face masks either. It doesn't mention the simple remedy of increasing the effectiveness of your immune system by drinking hot water ( other other hydrating drink). Increasing your body temperature by one degree doubles the effectiveness of your immune system.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: normanlook on March 11, 2020, 07:09:57 AM
Actually, only 20% of pathogen infection to us through respiratory tract. The remain 80% come through skin contact. So the better solution to prevent virus spreading should to be usually washing your hands.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on March 11, 2020, 03:09:05 PM
If the people who carry the virus are already around you, you are probably already infected.

If you are going to get a mask, get something like this:

https://images2.imgbox.com/22/31/GQ0wKUMR_o.jpg

The others are only toys.


And wear it 24/7, especially when you kiss your loved ones who are wearing a mask like this, as well.

 :D


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on March 11, 2020, 03:11:04 PM
Its only going to protect you if someone sprays droplets directly at your face.   That is not how most virus is contracted but its relevant in the context of a healthcare professional who is leaning their face towards the face of the symptomatic patient.  Walking down the street with one on is pointless.

Besides, it looks silly... when walking down the street with one. So, ride your motorcycle, and wear it under your helmet where people can't see it so easily.

8)


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Lucius on March 11, 2020, 03:21:11 PM
That mask we see almost in 99% of cases are almost useless when it comes to virus protection, they are somewhat useful in protecting against bacteria. But for some reason, even the most influential politicians in the world wear them, promoting them in this way which actually fools people in the sense that they can protect themselves in this way.

Of course, the price plays a big part because these ordinary masks are cheap (at least they were), and you can get pack with 50 pieces for some 3 EUR, but now in my country same packaging costs almost 50 EUR, supplies are low, demand is huge.

In the same time pack with 3 masks with FFP3 NR D is cost around 10 EUR, so if you want some decent protection buy those masks. They can usually be found at safety equipment stores, or in stores that sell paints and construction materials.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: eliteeservices on March 11, 2020, 03:23:54 PM
OMG!  N95 masks are designed to help prevent the SPREAD of virus, not CATCHING it.  Read on the package, it says for EXHILATION filter, not INHILATION.  Respirators, which cost 5x more, are designed to protect from toxic fumes such as for painters, and will stop coronavirus.  https://globalintelhub.com/survival-guide-coronavirus-2020-pandemic/ 


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Tash on March 11, 2020, 04:00:18 PM
OMG!  N95 masks are designed to help prevent the SPREAD of virus, not CATCHING it.  Read on the package, it says for EXHILATION filter, not INHILATION.  Respirators, which cost 5x more, are designed to protect from toxic fumes such as for painters, and will stop coronavirus.  https://globalintelhub.com/survival-guide-coronavirus-2020-pandemic/  

Exactly seeing someone with a surgical mask it is to assume he/she is infected  (or is a surgeon in a operating room).

Something as small as 125nm requires a gas-mask with eye-cover.
https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fae01.alicdn.com%2Fkf%2FHTB1UzAPXlUSMeJjSspfxh40VFXaP%2FSafurance-Respirator-Gas-Mask-Safety-Chemical-Anti-Dust-Filter-Military-Eye-Goggle-Set-Workplace-Safety-Protection.jpeg&f=1&nofb=1


Vitamin C is extremely important and your body looses a lot of it with stress. The body can not store large amounts of Vitamin C and it can not prevent infections, but help  enormously (https://youtu.be/VrhkoFcOMII) if infected.



Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: squatz1 on March 11, 2020, 10:52:10 PM
Thanks for that factual post Jack.

As I have said many rimes, the current Corona Virus doesn't spread by aerosols, but by droplets. So masks aren't much use unless a person is only a couple of feet in front of you, and coughs directly into your face. The problem comes when the droplets fall onto a surface, and you pick them up and move them to your eyes or mouth. Don't wash face masks either, and this expands the holes in them. You realise the stupidity of people when you see them wearing face masks, but not wearing gloves.

Your best protection is not to smoke or vape. Smoking increase ACE-2 receptors, and the virus uses those to bind to your cells. Strengthen your immune system with a healthy diet, and the avoidance of all vaccinations. Don't take any pharmaceutical or recreational drugs, as they weaken your immune system. Maintain an active sex life to stimulate blood flow and restful sleep.

I mean it does help a little bit. But yes, it's not going to protect you for like 95 percent of circumstances. So if you want to stop that 5 percent (I've made up this number) then go ahead and do so, but don't freak out that everyone else around you isn't using one.
 
When a large deal of people in the US (especially the young population that live on college campuses) smoke and vape, they're going to be the ones that carry this to the older generation which have a VERY high chance of death from this. If the younger population would just learn to care a little bit more about others there wouldn't be an issue -- but with schools cancelling all they're going to do is party a ton and everyone is going to get sick. This is a HORRIBLE SITUATION.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: eddie13 on March 11, 2020, 11:15:58 PM
I have 2 3M 6000 series masks and a 3M 7800s I might sell if I could get some outrageous $$/BTC for them ;)

Real respirators..


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: af_newbie on March 11, 2020, 11:23:55 PM
Today I went to the big box stores to buy a few months worth of supplies and I wore a surgical mask and latex gloves.

I can tell you that wearing a mask and gloves makes you think about what you and all other people touch.

Stores are 'virus transmission centers'.

It is crazy how our way of life helps to spread viruses and bacteria.

Wearing masks and gloves is a behavior modification tool for most people.

We need a vaccine to put this one to bed.

I don't think we will be able to stop the transmission of this virus.  Eventually, 80-90% of the population will be affected.

PS. The only way to stay in the 10% of those not affected is to limit contact with people.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: CristianOff on March 11, 2020, 11:24:54 PM
I agree with you! Don't wear a mask, wear the full set-up for it to be effective.
https://i.imgur.com/LfVvP71.jpg


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: LTU_btc on March 12, 2020, 06:21:44 PM
Of course, the price plays a big part because these ordinary masks are cheap (at least they were), and you can get pack with 50 pieces for some 3 EUR, but now in my country same packaging costs almost 50 EUR, supplies are low, demand is huge.

In the same time pack with 3 masks with FFP3 NR D is cost around 10 EUR, so if you want some decent protection buy those masks. They can usually be found at safety equipment stores, or in stores that sell paints and construction materials.
Pretty much same thing in my country. Now you can barely can find face masks and respirators in shops. But on internet, you can find resellers selling it at ridiculous price.
But I barely can see people with maskes on the street, so, I'm not sure what they are doing with all these masks. Offcourse, corona virus is dangerous thing, but I think that news media spread too much panic about it.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Subbir on March 13, 2020, 12:11:29 PM
You are right that there has been tons of panic among people about the virus That's why they're moving consciously to guard themselves which is why most are wearing masks we'll definitely buy a mask for the Coronavirus but it'll not be fully controlled. Because the coronavirus occurs in touch with the person we'd like to scrub our hands and face thoroughly once we read the mask.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BuxCoin on March 13, 2020, 01:28:45 PM
I checked in internet people who are infected or have cough should ware masks , not the one who does not have dont buy and stock pile masks and so that people who have virus or symptoms dont get them 


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Jet Cash on March 13, 2020, 06:43:09 PM
These masks would be great for a porn site. I bet there would be a load of pervs joining up. :)

I remember reading that Darth Vader used to get some very explicit letters from women.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Sheriff Woody on March 13, 2020, 07:13:57 PM
This is not what i was expecting to see!

Thought the World health organisation and everybody else has been talking about these masks to help prevent other people from getting this coronavirus and i thought this was something that affects the respiratory system so how do the eyes come in?


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on March 13, 2020, 10:58:04 PM
Besides, toilet paper oil filters are best. So, they probably would be best for CV, as well. If these jokers - https://www.toiletpaperoilfilter.com/thetoiletpaperoilfiltercompany.html - only knew how they were passing up a fortune.

Oh, that's right! No toilet paper left at Walmart!

8)


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: jackg on March 14, 2020, 02:07:05 AM
These masks would be great for a porn site. I bet there would be a load of pervs joining up. :)

I remember reading that Darth Vader used to get some very explicit letters from women.

If you don't mind filming and editing the footage then I'd be in on that (I do NOT want to see the end product though ;D).

Besides, toilet paper oil filters are best. So, they probably would be best for CV, as well.

Can you breath through them or does air not come in through the sides?
I watched a guy making one, he did a consetina and stapled rubber bands to the ends (to hold the paper in place too) and then put round his ears...

Oxygen mollecules are 150 picometres in size
Water mollecules are 275 picometres in size.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on March 14, 2020, 11:37:07 AM

Besides, toilet paper oil filters are best. So, they probably would be best for CV, as well.

Can you breath through them or does air not come in through the sides?
I watched a guy making one, he did a consetina and stapled rubber bands to the ends (to hold the paper in place too) and then put round his ears...

Oxygen mollecules are 150 picometres in size
Water mollecules are 275 picometres in size.

That's a tough question. With the stores all out of toilet paper, who has any to spare for filter tests? Of course, if you are careful, you will use the tp for filter tests first, and still be able to use it for its original function.

8)


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: jackg on March 14, 2020, 02:58:03 PM
I bought 24 rolls before Christmas and have enough for another 12 weeks... I'm pretty good on that front 🤣.

I anticipate a supply chain issue of about 4 weeks in advance so i buy everything non perishable a month in advance...


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: fortunecrypto on March 14, 2020, 05:29:18 PM
They won't protect you and you're just adding more waste to the land and water... They also don't cover your eyes which is probably how most infection gets in.

According to healthline (https://www.healthline.com/health-news/how-to-protect-yourself-while-traveling-during-the-coronavirus-outbreak) and many other sources, COVID-19/the novel coronavirus has a diameter of ~120nm while face masks only have a filter up to 300nm. I've been looking through information on facemasks have two main purposes:
1. Industrial: This is where someone is commonly working with small particles that need to be blocked going into their respiratory tract, such as wood workers and the like. Thre is also a use case for these in China for their pollution levels since carbon particulates above 100 micrometers in size are known for increasing the risk of asthma and 300 micrometers are known for producing carcinogens pretty quickly (I hope i got that the right way round).
2. Medical: Contrary to what a lot of people would thiink, the N95 model (I'm told is the most popular in medicine) actually just stops the surgeon/practitioner from projecting salivery deposits onto a patient and aren't actually for reducing the amount of infection spread between the two - probably the reason most doctors actually don't wear these. Quarrentine outfits probably give the doctor a certain amount of time in with a patient before they're changed, or have additional tuping to allow for them to receive air from outside the quarrentine unit (either that or they have more advanced filters, there's probably some fancy electrostatics devices for this sort of thing).



You have a very good point but the government tries to give us cheap defense by recommending these face masks which I think is useless, stay at home and minimize your contact and always get the latest local news around you, if some one in your locality reported to have then that's time to stay focus in limiting your outside exposure.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Jet Cash on March 14, 2020, 06:30:53 PM
Jetty's supermarket report.

I've been talking to the security guard at a Morrisons supermarket, and he says that he makes anyone wearing a mask remove it. He has had some problems with the Chinese though.

He asked one customer why he was buying two trolley loads of toilet rolls, and the reply was " I'll take them to the market and sell them out of my van"

There is an old boy ( not me ) who walks round the supermarket checking to see what is likely to be reduced Then he comes back later and tracks the staff as they make final reductions. Then he tries to get the self scan tills to skip some of the items.

The largest amount that he has stopped someone trying to steal if a trolley was 985 pounds. That was a mix of meat, drink and household items.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Subbir on March 17, 2020, 12:21:49 PM

Anyway, your face masks just mean you're improving everyone else's air quality and may mean your immune system starts to become complacent (well if my nose is already covered, I clearly don't have to do anything)...


How could you speak the crap things like this out?

You are right in that you should think a little before saying something like this Facebook for Coronavirus can never overcome it Everything will depend on yourself. Your own awareness is more beneficial to you.

In my opinion without being conscious of who we are repeatedly we are forced to try to to tons of things. Must buy face masks for coronavirus It can protect us to some extent but through the nose and mouth it'll get obviate it.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: iamsheikhadil on March 19, 2020, 02:02:48 PM
I feel like even if it can't stop Corona, it's still a healthy practice to wear masks. Here in my city it's already too polluted the air and also many big wastelands... I guess it would keep the other common diseases away!


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: de_ingenious on March 20, 2020, 02:52:32 AM
The only way masks really help is by stopping your saliva from getting all over the place when you're already infectious but don't know it yet. Let's assume it can help save 5-10 lives, why not wear one even if it's slightly useful


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Saltius on March 20, 2020, 02:57:30 AM
The only way masks really help is by stopping your saliva from getting all over the place when you're already infectious but don't know it yet. Let's assume it can help save 5-10 lives, why not wear one even if it's slightly useful

What's more, it can effectly prevents one to touch one's own face by fingers.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Subbir on March 21, 2020, 12:29:15 PM
The only way masks really help is by stopping your saliva from getting all over the place when you're already infectious but don't know it yet. Let's assume it can help save 5-10 lives, why not wear one even if it's slightly useful

What's more, it can effectly prevents one to touch one's own face by fingers.

Not only touching the face but many nasal passages can enter our nose and mouth through the air protects us from it. repeatedly we get obviate the germs and therefore the odor that comes out of the rubbish.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Kahan848 on March 22, 2020, 02:34:09 AM
wise advice but people here and there anyway don't follow it  :-\

Cause when humanity is in danger, even relatively mild, it doesn't care much about anything except its well-being


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Subbir on March 22, 2020, 03:53:58 AM
wise advice but people here and there anyway don't follow it  :-\

Cause when humanity is in danger, even relatively mild, it doesn't care much about anything except its well-being

If good then nobody understands the meaning of being healthy. When in peril, search for them this is often why we expect we should always take care beforehand in order that there'll be no problems later. those that are aware must follow these rules in order that they're not exposed to the virus later.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Tipstar on March 22, 2020, 04:59:42 AM
This discussion is dumb. China and South Korea both of which seem to be controlling the outbreak are not allowing people to move outside without mask.
And the ones that are not being able to contain it are claiming mask are useless.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Sadlife on March 22, 2020, 09:51:06 AM
If N95 mask isn't really effective they why would governments and health institutions recommend it ? i even saw some guidelines from our country's health department to use only surgical and N95 mask. Now i know that it is really not effective and you will still get infected regardless.
Do you have any news or info about the vaccine, i've heard it is now in clinical test.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: madnessteat on March 22, 2020, 10:19:51 AM
If N95 mask isn't really effective they why would governments and health institutions recommend it ? i even saw some guidelines from our country's health department to use only surgical and N95 mask. Now i know that it is really not effective and you will still get infected regardless.
Do you have any news or info about the vaccine, i've heard it is now in clinical test.

Such a mask will only help protect those around you when you cough or sneeze if you are infected with coronavirus but are unaware of it, as some infected people may not show symptoms of fever.

In fact, creating a vaccine is not as difficult as conducting clinical tests and proving that the vaccine really does not harm a person. I read that the whole cycle from creation to mass production of the vaccine can take 1-2 years. I hope the scientists will hurry up.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: JohnBitCo on March 22, 2020, 11:17:47 AM
I feel like even if it can't stop Corona, it's still a healthy practice to wear masks. Here in my city it's already too polluted the air and also many big wastelands... I guess it would keep the other common diseases away!

The facemask are for those who are infected from coronavirus or any flu/fever. If everyone started wearing the mask, then these mask will come short and those who really need to wear the mask, they wont be able to get it. Even I see people stocking the masks for their future, which is defiantly not the right thing to do.
We should care for the others, rather than only caring for ourselves.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on March 22, 2020, 03:10:26 PM
Since the whole CV thing is propaganda and hearsay...

If you need a mask, check out the stores for padded bras. There are loads of them.

8)


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: jakedeez on March 23, 2020, 11:45:31 AM
I got some since the last bird flu hysteria  ;D
but I think expired many years ago :D


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Tash on March 23, 2020, 05:26:17 PM
Some good news cameramen are immune
https://imgur.com/3tVi8RD


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Meowth05 on March 30, 2020, 08:05:47 AM
The reason why you shouldn't buy facemasks to prevent the infection is that they are ineffective, the one we should be looking for is a surgical mask but you do not need to buy when you are not a medical frontliner or a skeletal workforce, then it is better if you just stay at home to prevent contracting and spreading the virus.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Cratoon on March 30, 2020, 08:13:28 AM
Well, having a N95 on your face will surely increase your chances of not getting infected.

Personally I wear a respirator and have some additional gear ready for when the epidemic gets out of hand.

If you're under 35 you can still die from corona, or get some complications including permanent lung damage.

We still know very little about long-term effect of having being infected with COVID so using any protection possible is the way to go now.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: madnessteat on March 30, 2020, 05:05:09 PM
The reason why you shouldn't buy facemasks to prevent the infection is that they are ineffective, the one we should be looking for is a surgical mask but you do not need to buy when you are not a medical frontliner or a skeletal workforce, then it is better if you just stay at home to prevent contracting and spreading the virus.

Being at home all the time just doesn't work out because sooner or later a person will have to go outside (to a shop, pharmacy, etc.) If you don't have a respirator, at least wear a medical mask. As we know, some people may not show signs of infection and if the medical mask does not save you, it may save someone else.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Subbir on March 31, 2020, 01:17:44 PM
Surgical masks are simpler than masks But if you do not need an excessive amount of you do not got to read the mask you only said it should be worn when going out  repeatedly it's needed to save lots of some from cough and cough. But the mask can never be saved from the Coronavirus The mask are going to be just to guard yourself.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Spendulus on March 31, 2020, 10:13:09 PM
Surgical masks are simpler than masks But if you do not need an excessive amount of you do not got to read the mask you only said it should be worn when going out  repeatedly it's needed to save lots of some from cough and cough. But the mask can never be saved from the Coronavirus The mask are going to be just to guard yourself.

Almost nothing but vague and wrong ideas in this thread.

This is the year 2020, you have google. You can easily look up procedures for wearing masks of various sort when in the vicinity of infectious diseases.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Naida_BR on April 02, 2020, 08:08:33 AM


Yeah,  ordinary masks are useless in the  fight against Covid but respirator-grade ones  like 3M 6000, 3M 7500 and such are good.  Combined with both  the right protective goggles like  swimming    ones and gloves   they are capable to safe your lives.  In this respect, it is also important to select correct size for both respirator and goggles  that fits the face. 3M 7500 family:



This mask is not to face Covid.
It is for soldiers that are fighting in Syria... Stop scaring people and try to make them buy things that they are not necessary for them.
This situation and discussions just cause panic to them...


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Subbir on April 02, 2020, 11:04:51 AM
The Coronavirus is panic but Facemask can never protect us from the Coronavirus We are usually the victim of things and wear it Protects us from entering through our nose and mouth The coronavirus that attacks it cannot escape anything. i will be able to buy face masks for my very own protection.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Spendulus on April 02, 2020, 11:45:20 AM


Yeah,  ordinary masks are useless in the  fight against Covid but respirator-grade ones  like 3M 6000, 3M 7500 and such are good.  Combined with both  the right protective goggles like  swimming    ones and gloves   they are capable to safe your lives.  In this respect, it is also important to select correct size for both respirator and goggles  that fits the face. 3M 7500 family:



This mask is not to face Covid.
It is for soldiers that are fighting in Syria... Stop scaring people and try to make them buy things that they are not necessary for them.
This situation and discussions just cause panic to them...

I have both the 3M and the N95 masks and have occasionally used them on various jobs. A couple of hours of work with something that generates dust or airborne particles, like cutting concrete, and the N95 really does not do the job. How do you know? Go do it, then blow your nose. Your snot is colored and looks like 1/2 the dust generated. Conclusion: 95% is not so great.

The 3M masks are great, you feel better and healthier, and really get clean air.

The negatives of the 3M series ARE THE WAY YOU LOOK!

You look scary. But in a medical Metter like this, the choice of protection cannot be based on scary looking.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: aioc on April 02, 2020, 05:50:32 PM
Not everyone here in our country can buy this 3M made mask, majority of people are wearing mask made of cloth because it's now mandatory for us to wear masks whenever we go out, whatever masks will that be, as long as we can keep our nose and mouth from spitting droplets because everyone here is potentials carriers  


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Spendulus on April 02, 2020, 07:16:55 PM


You look scary. But in a medical Metter like this, the choice of protection cannot be based on scary looking.

Better to be live and look scary than be handsome in coffin. Some life-hack for you. Instead of using costly 3M filters attached to 3M respirator you can place small pieces of medical cotton  into compartments with membranes  for inhaled breath and cover them with the shreds of papers used for ULPA filters. In turn that coverings cab be fixed tightly  by rubber bands of appropriate diameter. I'm using bands cut off from the end of children balloons.

Good comment, but why should I believe you are correct?

If you can show a simple method to test the efficiency of your materials when used as described, that would be quite valuable. I'm good with making filters for the masks, but if I run out and make them, I'll have devised a testing method to insure that my product does perform adequately. Otherwise a person would be relying on sheer guess work and essentially killing himself.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on April 02, 2020, 11:06:10 PM
You really need to buy facemasks for the coronavirus!

http://media4.s-nbcnews.com/j/MSNBC/Components/Photo/2012/April/120416/tdy-120416-groom-cancer-04.jpg.grid-4x2.jpg

http://img1.etsystatic.com/000/0/5137860/il_570xN.162655331.jpg

https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2009/04/30/article-0-04BEB483000005DC-589_468x394.jpg

https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/fT2jodECAmmmudMbohJc4h-320-80.jpg


 ;D


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: nutildah on April 03, 2020, 07:07:46 AM
Flat out bad advice to not buy a face mask.

The best arguments against wearing the mask I've seen come down to: "well, it doesn't stop the virus completely, so might as well not wear one."

This is just nonsense. Whatever precautions can be taken to slow down the transmission of the virus should be taken. Probably the best evidence for why masks should be worn is looking at the infection rates for mask wearing versus non-mask wearing countries.

https://www.maskssavelives.org/static/Adjustments.plist.jpg

Why masks lower COVID-19 deaths (https://www.maskssavelives.org/)

Quote
Masks aid in decreasing COVID-19's virality by three pathways.

- Decreasing virus spread by infected individuals. The mask traps virus particles on the inside, preventing the virus particles becoming airborne. Protect others.
- Decreasing new infections by uninfected individuals. The mask prevents airborne virus particles being inhaled from the outside. Protect yourself.
- Limiting hand to face contact. The mask puts a physical barrier between potentially contaminated hands and passages to one's lungs.

Now, you can say this information is incorrect and just propaganda set forth by "big mask," or you could just use common sense in realizing that putting _any_ sort of physical shield (even a piece of bread) in front of your mouth and nose slows down transmission of airborn particles that might otherwise enter those orifices.

Where I live, wearing a mask outside is absolutely required. Even if its just a cloth mask or a bandana, you _must_ have one, as something is absolutely better than nothing. And its just a courtesy to others to stop your phlegm, mucous and spit from shooting freely into the open.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Spendulus on April 03, 2020, 11:45:25 AM


You look scary. But in a medical Metter like this, the choice of protection cannot be based on scary looking.

Better to be live and look scary than be handsome in coffin. Some life-hack for you. Instead of using costly 3M filters attached to 3M respirator you can place small pieces of medical cotton  into compartments with membranes  for inhaled breath and cover them with the shreds of papers used for ULPA filters. In turn that coverings cab be fixed tightly  by rubber bands of appropriate diameter. I'm using bands cut off from the end of children balloons.

Good comment, but why should I believe you are correct?

If you can show a simple method to test the efficiency of your materials when used as described, that would be quite valuable. I'm good with making filters for the masks, but if I run out and make them, I'll have devised a testing method to insure that my product does perform adequately. Otherwise a person would be relying on sheer guess work and essentially killing himself.

Well, such testing methods require sophisticated equipment and reagents. I hardly think you have that at home. However you can switch on your logic and compare the size (~ 0.12  µm,) of Covid with that one for pores (~0.1  µm) in ULPA  paper which is widely used in bacteria oriented filters. Besides, airborne viruses have a tendency  to form conglomerates that increases the dangerous particle size by 2x-3x times. You  can advance and use 2-3 layers of that paper. The 0.5 - 1 cm thick piece of medical cotton adds extra protection layer. Sure DYOR.

No (again).  No to someone's assertions on the internet regarding how to make a workable filter material.

Testing is required, and I am of the opinion it can be done without "sophisticated equipment and reagents."

Conversely, if it does require special gear, then prove it.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Cratoon on April 03, 2020, 12:07:57 PM
Flat out bad advice to not buy a face mask.


I strongly agree. People shouldn't be embarrassed wearing a mask, and they shouldn't simply "take their chances" with their and other peoples lives. Even if their country situation is currently not severe, preventive measures can save lives and give an example to other people.

If you are still able to buy masks -- stock on 3 - 5 of them, and dry them in a warm place for 3 full days after each use. Using a UV light source for sterilization of the masks is very effective, but you should make sure that your mask filters can be treated with UV, since some of them deteriorate on UV.

Please wear a mask, ignore any weird looks if you're wearing respirator. With mask you increase your chances of not being infected, and believe you Don't want to get infected. If you do - you simply don't have enough information about the threats that this virus presents to population of our beloved Earth.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Spendulus on April 03, 2020, 01:59:10 PM


No (again).  No to someone's assertions on the internet regarding how to make a workable filter material.

Testing is required, and I am of the opinion it can be done without "sophisticated equipment and reagents."

Conversely, if it does require special gear, then prove it.

Well, then conduct that testing yourself if you believe that is not hard task for your to test the   virus penetration  through materials. The stuff  used in my home designed filter has been described above. But before you start I would advise you to familiarize yourself  with requirements  for  such kind of procedures. https://www.astm.org/Standards/F1671.htm  Good luck in testing.




Sure, thanks. I consider it very important to actually know what you are doing, instead of relying on guesswork. Looks like other people are looking into it.

https://smartairfilters.com/en/blog/best-materials-make-diy-face-mask-virus/

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/258525804_Testing_the_Efficacy_of_Homemade_Masks_Would_They_Protect_in_an_Influenza_Pandemic


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: madnessteat on April 03, 2020, 06:43:27 PM
I recently watched a video of a guy testing masks and respirators to try to smell substances such as acetone, gasoline, and solvent. He said that if you manage to smell acetone/gasoline/solvent in a mask/repirator, that mask/repirator will not protect you from coronavirus. What do you think of this test?


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Spendulus on April 03, 2020, 10:02:05 PM
I recently watched a video of a guy testing masks and respirators to try to smell substances such as acetone, gasoline, and solvent. He said that if you manage to smell acetone/gasoline/solvent in a mask/repirator, that mask/repirator will not protect you from coronavirus. What do you think of this test?

That's ridiculous. These are "volatiles" which mean they are molecules in vapor form in the air. There are specific cartridges for the 3M masks for volatiles, which are extremely important say for painters and those working with various chemicals.

There are other cartridges for small particles. Actually there's a large variety of cartridges for different purposes.

As the absolute simplest example of this, ANY cloth-based or paper-based filter material could not stop volatile solvent fumes. Here is a link to some of these available from 3M.

https://www.3m.com/3M/en_US/company-us/all-3m-products/~/All-3M-Products/Safety/Personal-Safety/Personal-Protective-Equipment/Reusable-Respirators/Cartridges-Filters/?N=5002385+8709322+8711017+8711405+8720539+8720550+8720746+3294857497&rt=r3



Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Spendulus on April 05, 2020, 07:15:19 PM
...Molecule of acetone is around 1 nm small while the size of covid is ~ 0.12  µm  i.e. ~ 12 nm. That is why the filters designed to protect against viruses will not protect you from odors. There are special filters filled with nanporous stuff capable to absorbs molecules of odors.


0.12 um = 120 nm

But acetone travels around as a gas while the cover is quite likely to be associated with water micro drops and such, so the true gap in side even bigger.




Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Chrystora123 on April 06, 2020, 04:54:21 PM
fashionable and best clothes from Elon Musk to dispel the sars-cov-2 virus if the facemask can't do it  ;D

https://i.imgur.com/lOuIb5Q.png


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Hulhala15 on April 06, 2020, 05:38:01 PM
I do not know why the heck people are just bringing in more and more complications. Telling people that thenormal masks  won actually help them only increases the panic that they already have. I am sure that even though the normal masks dont provide that much protection, they are better than nothing. That mask you have recommended looks like a gaming equipment, how can I wear that thing in public. It would just seem weird, the normal mask will do, all you need to do is stay with in a safe distance when next to a person. If a person is wearing a mask then they will probably sneeze in their own mask,the germs wont get to you.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: squatz1 on April 08, 2020, 06:33:52 AM
I'm assuming this has been discussed on here by now, but the CDC has changed their directive regarding facemasks and is now recommending that all people wear facemasks when they're out of the house. It's NOT to protect you from getting the coronavirus, because JackG has correctly pointed out that these masks won't help, but it will stop you from spreading the virus to others.

CDC Directive: https://theconversation.com/the-cdc-now-recommends-wearing-a-mask-in-some-cases-a-physician-explains-why-and-when-to-wear-one-135590

So yeah, just wear one. You can make them from home with an old shirt and some rubber bands.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: tvbcof on April 08, 2020, 06:45:23 AM
U.S. using super-power status to forcibly take all the masks their owners/controllers want:  https://twitter.com/Brasco_Aad/status/1247607368873017345 (https://twitter.com/Brasco_Aad/status/1247607368873017345)

Meanwhile, in New York:  Baruch Feldheim (https://frankreport.com/2020/04/04/respirator-bro-gets-into-jam-by-coughing-at-fbi-agents-then-lying-too-after-he-price-gouged-respirator-masks/).  Boruch?  Anyway, I wonder how many of the appropriated medical supplies even made it to the physical geographic location of the Promised Land?



Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: vladimirhf on May 13, 2020, 11:55:14 PM
it's amazing that people spreading fake news and disinformation receive merits from a merit source... this forum section looks like a madhouse. Nowadays every kind of shit is equated with scientific knowledge and we will see the results in the short term.

let's draw then and I hope people can get it:

https://i.postimg.cc/B6cHVStN/EX5-Jxl8-Wo-AAg-E9-U.jpg



Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Twinkledoe on May 13, 2020, 11:59:17 PM
it's amazing that people spreading fake news and disinformation receive merits from a merit source... this forum section looks like a madhouse. Nowadays every kind of shit is equated with scientific knowledge and we will see the results in the short term.

let's draw then and I hope people can get it:

-



Based from your images, it shows that it is always better to use face mask, to lessen the percentage of contagion. Though it might not totally eliminate the possibility of spreading, at least lower the numbers here. So what it is saying is wear your face mask, your doing good for yourself and to others. Will not hurt you in anyway by wearing it.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on May 14, 2020, 12:08:02 AM
it's amazing that people spreading fake news and disinformation receive merits from a merit source... this forum section looks like a madhouse. Nowadays every kind of shit is equated with scientific knowledge and we will see the results in the short term.

let's draw then and I hope people can get it:

https://i.postimg.cc/B6cHVStN/EX5-Jxl8-Wo-AAg-E9-U.jpg



Doctors know that masks are for protecting others from bacteria. Personally I would suspect that masks somehow stop a little bit of virus, as well. But the doctors will tell you that viruses go right through them.

8)


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: LTU_btc on May 14, 2020, 11:08:38 PM
it's amazing that people spreading fake news and disinformation receive merits from a merit source... this forum section looks like a madhouse. Nowadays every kind of shit is equated with scientific knowledge and we will see the results in the short term.

let's draw then and I hope people can get it:

https://i.postimg.cc/B6cHVStN/EX5-Jxl8-Wo-AAg-E9-U.jpg
I'm not saying that masks is completely useless, but numbers in this image looks so random. I haven't heard about any scientific research which would prove that these numbers is right. There is many factors which may change these numbers into one or other side.
I think that in crowded places like shops or public transport, but I think it's not needed in the streets at all.
And, WHO still don't recommend to wear it for helthy people, here is quote from their website:
Quote
If you are healthy, you only need to wear a mask if you are taking care of a person with COVID-19.
Wear a mask if you are coughing or sneezing


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: tvbcof on May 15, 2020, 03:44:33 AM
This 'covid-19' charade, and especially the 'new normal', is primarily a psychological exercise designed to create a sort of a mass psychosis.

Humans (and other primates) cover their faces as an exhibition of shame among other feelings.  Similar for social distancing where it is more a demonstration of disgust.  There also can a spiritual (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RVG8qNLdoY) element to such operations.  How much of a factor that is here is yet undetermined.  I would say that the goal is to 'soften us up' for something truly horrific and we've not seen anything yet.

I suspect that the '2nd wave' will be something truly dangerous such as smallpox which they've been working on (in the lab and in the mainstream media) for a few decades now.  Smallpox would be interesting to me because I believe that it was a shot that I did have in infancy and was at the trailing edge of those who received it back in the 1960's.

This 'covid-19' is an obvious sham, and more and more people can see it.  There-in lies the danger.  If/when 'they' hit us with a real one a lot fewer people will take it seriously now.  That might be the design goal.  I, for one, AM going to take the promised '2nd wave' quite seriously, and more than I took 'SARS-ncov' when it was first promoted.  Enough so that I am already looking to buy a place in a rural environment.  What the 'SARS-cov-2' hoax showed is that there is not possible way to isolate against highly infectious diseases in an urban environment no matter how hard people try.

'These people' who are running this thing want a population level of about 1/10th of the current worldwide levels.  That means 9 out of every 10 of us need to die.  It probably means also that those who would cause problems in the future much smaller societies will die more.  That these people were able _and willing_ to do the 'covid-10' scam with such ease tells me that they will have no difficulty or compunction about getting the population levels that they have been arguing for for a century or so.



Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on May 18, 2020, 12:16:52 AM
Dr. Ron Paul’s
Urgent Message for Every American

“Should I keep back my opinions at such a time, through fear of giving offense, I should consider myself as guilty of treason toward my country.”
— PATRICK HENRY

Watch Ron Paul's video here, which shows some of the dangers that are way bigger than the Coronavirus pandemic.

https://orders.stansberryresearch.com/?cid=MKT462034&eid=MKT465880&step=start&assetId=AST139112&page=1


8)


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Tash on May 18, 2020, 04:42:59 AM


Some common sense and hard hitting fakts from registered nurse
https://youtu.be/YUku6l9OmHk


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: xen1oph on May 18, 2020, 01:43:34 PM
I agree that this is an almost useless thing. If you want to protect yourself and others, then use a gas mask. But this is stupid because this virus is not so dangerous to use it.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: squatz1 on May 18, 2020, 02:18:47 PM
it's amazing that people spreading fake news and disinformation receive merits from a merit source... this forum section looks like a madhouse. Nowadays every kind of shit is equated with scientific knowledge and we will see the results in the short term.

let's draw then and I hope people can get it:

https://i.postimg.cc/B6cHVStN/EX5-Jxl8-Wo-AAg-E9-U.jpg
I'm not saying that masks is completely useless, but numbers in this image looks so random. I haven't heard about any scientific research which would prove that these numbers is right. There is many factors which may change these numbers into one or other side.
I think that in crowded places like shops or public transport, but I think it's not needed in the streets at all.
And, WHO still don't recommend to wear it for helthy people, here is quote from their website:
Quote
If you are healthy, you only need to wear a mask if you are taking care of a person with COVID-19.
Wear a mask if you are coughing or sneezing

Numbers are probably completetly made up. I'm assuming this picture was made to be spread on all of the social media platforms by kids and adults alike. I don't think this should take away from the fact that masks are going to be helpful in stopping the spread of the coronavirus.

If you were a mask and you have the coronavirus, you have a much lower chance of spreading it to other people. Which is one of the key things that people are trying to do here. Lowering the amount of people infected and lowering the strain on the hopsital system is VERY important to ensuring that we can move on from this effectively.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on May 18, 2020, 03:20:09 PM
I realize that I am keeping myself healthier by not wearing a mask.

8)


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: MysteryMiner on May 18, 2020, 08:20:47 PM
I agree that this is an almost useless thing. If you want to protect yourself and others, then use a gas mask. But this is stupid because this virus is not so dangerous to use it.
When You get infected it is just as dangerous as loading a single round into 8 chamber revolver, spinning the drum and pulling the trigger while pointing at your head. I will personally choose the russian roulette instead of getting infected by coronavirus. Two colleagues of my relative is infected and the flu-like symptoms persist for 3 to 4 weeks and it feels more shit than any flu. With the russian roulette revolver all You hear is click on empty chamber and You are fine. With coronavirus You will wait for weeks not knowing You will live or die. And even if You live the sickness feels really bad.

I wear a soviet GP-5 gas mask when I need to be near other unknown people. Like in bus or supermarket.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: bakasabo on May 18, 2020, 08:35:30 PM
I realize that I am keeping myself healthier by not wearing a mask.

8)

Do you go public or is it a must in your country to wear a mask in public or at least in public transport ?
Btw, you might be healthier, but you still can be a virus carrier. Even if you dont have symptoms or feel good, you still can infect others :) So if I were you, I might consider wearing a mask :)


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on May 18, 2020, 09:32:18 PM
I realize that I am keeping myself healthier by not wearing a mask.

8)

Do you go public or is it a must in your country to wear a mask in public or at least in public transport ?
Btw, you might be healthier, but you still can be a virus carrier. Even if you dont have symptoms or feel good, you still can infect others :) So if I were you, I might consider wearing a mask :)

There are hundreds of thousands of viruses running around loose all the time. Thousands of these are mutating so rapidly that they are naturally gone before a medicine can be developed.

So, tell us, please, how wearing a mask is going to protect anyone. After all, the protection is in the immune system developing a resistance to all of these hundreds of thousands of viruses. If you don't catch Covid, you aren't going to build a resistance to it.

Now that everything is opening up after the stupid, ridiculous pandemic, guess what? You ARE going to get Covid, whether you like it or not. The only way to avoid getting it is to isolate yourself in a biosphere that is completely separate from the world.

But that still might not help. Why not? Because if you haven't been in the biosphere for the last 20 years (actually way longer), you already have Coronvirus in you. Your immune system has probably made an immune resistance in you that will be effective against Covid. But if it hasn't, get out there and get exposed so that your immune system has something to work with to do its job.

Between now and your infection date, if you wear the mask, you are reducing oxygen to your body, you are inhaling from the back side of the mask all the rapidly growing viruses and bacteria you exhaled onto it, and you are being a bad example for the rest of society.

The Covid pandemic is a hoax. The death count is lies. If you want to understand that it is, watch Del Bigtree interview all kinds of doctors and others who will prove it to you. Del Bigtree at The Highwire - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq6oOuhSx7ESreh6m9LGy6Q/videos. Then start to research the rest besides The Highwire.

However, if you are NOT an honest person trying to help people, but rather are part of the Coronavirus pandemic hoax, be honorable with yourself, and keep it up. That way you stand a chance to get taken down in court with Dr. Andrew Fauci who Del and his team are naming in an up-and-coming lawsuit - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJbH9gx8MH0.

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Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: bakasabo on May 19, 2020, 07:53:18 AM
There are hundreds of thousands of viruses running around loose all the time. Thousands of these are mutating so rapidly that they are naturally gone before a medicine can be developed.

So, tell us, please, how wearing a mask is going to protect anyone. After all, the protection is in the immune system developing a resistance to all of these hundreds of thousands of viruses. If you don't catch Covid, you aren't going to build a resistance to it.

Based on that logic, if I dont catch AIDS, I wont be able to build a resistance to it ? :D

I personally wear the mask, not to be protected from covid-19, but not to infect others. As you said, most of us are already infected, but our immune system resists the virus. As a virus carrier, I dont want to increase probability of other to be infected. Who knows, maybe the virus in me is stronger that the virus in others.

And a chance of me doing a little cough and spreading more is greater without the mask, than it is in the mask. Do you agree ?


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Tash on May 19, 2020, 08:20:57 AM
There are hundreds of thousands of viruses running around loose all the time. Thousands of these are mutating so rapidly that they are naturally gone before a medicine can be developed.

So, tell us, please, how wearing a mask is going to protect anyone. After all, the protection is in the immune system developing a resistance to all of these hundreds of thousands of viruses. If you don't catch Covid, you aren't going to build a resistance to it.

Based on that logic, if I dont catch AIDS, I wont be able to build a resistance to it ? :D

I personally wear the mask, not to be protected from covid-19, but not to infect others. As you said, most of us are already infected, but our immune system resists the virus. As a virus carrier, I dont want to increase probability of other to be infected. Who knows, maybe the virus in me is stronger that the virus in others.

And a chance of me doing a little cough and spreading more is greater without the mask, than it is in the mask. Do you agree ?

You cant catch AIDS.
You can test positve for HIV with phoney test and then receive treatment if you choose to do so, or live for decades without like Magic Johnson, positve since 1991  and now 61 years old.
HIV =/= AIDS   virus-disease   just like SARS-CoV-2 =/= COVID-19

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLVo1vllcaE   Biologist Christl Meyer
https://youtu.be/tQCKb1JV-4A    Dr Robert Willner Injects himself with "HIV"   (fast forward to about  39min)
https://topdocumentaryfilms.com/hiv-aids-fact-or-fraud/ 117 min Documentary   



Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Subbir on May 19, 2020, 02:27:43 PM
I don't think face masks can protect us from virus prevention it's only temporary But if we are a touch more aware then there'll be no need for face masks. we've to take care of social distance to guard ourselves against the virus, we will prevent the virus by avoiding public gatherings Masks are more likely to cause infections If we leave it where it's if somebody else uses it it'll be more likely to spread the virus. this is often why avoiding public gatherings is simpler than face masks.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on May 19, 2020, 03:36:19 PM
Facemasks will do 100%, absolutely no good. Why not? Because once the virus is in the air in one place in the world, it will take only a week to two weeks to spread around the world. The virus has been in the USA and every other country for all of 2020.

The only people who might not have the virus are people who have been living in an artificial biosphere that has been sealed since mid-2019 or earlier. Another group might be people living underwater in an atomic submarine that hasn't surfaced for more than half-a-year.

If you think hard, you might be able to think of other groups that haven't shared air with the world for more than half-a-year. When was the last time the air was replenished on the International Space Station?

Forget masks. Rather, just be courteous to all people. I mean, don't cough in their face, just as you wouldn't at any other time. The virus is out there for everybody already.

Stupid testing is inconclusive. Check it out. The same person can be tested negative then positive, then negative again. The whole pandemic activity is only making things worse. And so are masks.

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Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Tash on May 21, 2020, 06:03:22 AM


A muzzle will not save anyone from a cell full of currupt / poisonous matter. Lots of ways to currupt and poisen a cell.

https://i.ibb.co/PQTv29p/Untitled.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Naida_BR on May 21, 2020, 05:17:17 PM
I don't use a face mask not in my work space.
I feel that I am not protected by the mask and I also read a research that wearing a facemask for many hours creates problems in your respiratory system in long term, so thank you I won't take it.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Subbir on May 22, 2020, 02:37:53 PM
You're right, I do not accept it either because Facemasks can never protect us from viruses but causes problems. Not only within the case of respiratory problems but also due to being behind all the time we get red spots like cutting through the four passes of the mouth which is harmful to our health that's why it's more important to take care than to use it. it's better to adopt another method considering your own health.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: madnessteat on May 22, 2020, 03:30:01 PM
I don't use a face mask not in my work space.
I feel that I am not protected by the mask and I also read a research that wearing a facemask for many hours creates problems in your respiratory system in long term, so thank you I won't take it.

I try not to wear the mask that my government recommends wearing as it is simply useless. It is quite possible that I would wear a respirator with filters like ffp2, ffp3, but since they simply do not exist in my country, I preferred a healthy lifestyle and daily running to strengthen my immunity.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: PavelMed on May 22, 2020, 05:06:26 PM
I don't use a face mask not in my work space.
I feel that I am not protected by the mask and I also read a research that wearing a facemask for many hours creates problems in your respiratory system in long term, so thank you I won't take it.

I try not to wear the mask that my government recommends wearing as it is simply useless. It is quite possible that I would wear a respirator with filters like ffp2, ffp3, but since they simply do not exist in my country, I preferred a healthy lifestyle and daily running to strengthen my immunity.
In my city, a mandatory mask mode. And the World Health Organization acknowledged that they are not valid. Some shops are not allowed without a mask.
With us they are expensive, very expensive. Nobody gives them away for free.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Naida_BR on May 22, 2020, 06:51:45 PM
I don't use a face mask not in my work space.
I feel that I am not protected by the mask and I also read a research that wearing a facemask for many hours creates problems in your respiratory system in long term, so thank you I won't take it.

I try not to wear the mask that my government recommends wearing as it is simply useless. It is quite possible that I would wear a respirator with filters like ffp2, ffp3, but since they simply do not exist in my country, I preferred a healthy lifestyle and daily running to strengthen my immunity.

I feel like all countries and governments around the world recommend wearing a mask.
It is important to do so in places that can be overcrowded and you visit them for short period of time such as buses or the underground. For other places I think that it is unnecessary to wear it.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: madnessteat on May 22, 2020, 07:23:16 PM
In my city, a mandatory mask mode. And the World Health Organization acknowledged that they are not valid. Some shops are not allowed without a mask.
With us they are expensive, very expensive. Nobody gives them away for free.

Don't you think that if you are required to wear a mask in a certain place, you should be provided with a mask absolutely free of charge by the demanding organization and not offered to buy it?

I feel like all countries and governments around the world recommend wearing a mask.
It is important to do so in places that can be overcrowded and you visit them for short period of time such as buses or the underground. For other places I think that it is unnecessary to wear it.

The worst thing is that I often see people moving around in their own car wearing a mask, and they are all alone.  ???


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: merchantofzeny on May 23, 2020, 12:46:02 AM
Unless the mask is supposed to block viruses, it really wouldn't help protect you from infection. Not to mention there are defective masks out there, I remember Australia complaining about the masks China sent them.

I'd still prefer that people still wear something on their faces when they go outside though, just in case they're pre/asymptomatic, the mask could reduce the rate that they spread the virus. Besides, it's courtesy (at least in Asian countries) to wear face masks if you feel under the weather.


A muzzle will not save anyone from a cell full of currupt / poisonous matter. Lots of ways to currupt and poisen a cell.

https://i.ibb.co/PQTv29p/Untitled.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)

The holes on the material is not small enough to block the virus I suppose.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Tash on May 23, 2020, 03:07:54 AM


A muzzle will not save anyone from a cell full of currupt / poisonous matter. Lots of ways to currupt and poisen a cell.

https://i.ibb.co/PQTv29p/Untitled.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)

The holes on the material is not small enough to block the virus I suppose.

Thats why spray-painters wear a proper respirator gear and not some surgical mask, designed for other use.
Something as small as 100 nm enters through the eyes just as easy as anywhere else, thats why gas mask also covers the eyes.
Long term wear of some junk mask has only negative health effects. The better the quality the longer the usage the more blockage the more oxygen flow is restricted and exhaled CO2 is re-inhaled.
Some people evidently already starved the brain of vital oxygen. Some people think it is possible the catch a virus from someone else.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on May 23, 2020, 04:38:26 AM


A muzzle will not save anyone from a cell full of currupt / poisonous matter. Lots of ways to currupt and poisen a cell.

https://i.ibb.co/PQTv29p/Untitled.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)

The holes on the material is not small enough to block the virus I suppose.

Thats why spray-painters wear a proper respirator gear and not some surgical mask, designed for other use.
Something as small as 100 nm enters through the eyes just as easy as anywhere else, thats why gas mask also covers the eyes.
Long term wear of some junk mask has only negative health effects. The better the quality the longer the usage the more blockage the more oxygen flow is restricted and exhaled CO2 is re-inhaled.
Some people evidently already starved the brain of vital oxygen. Some people think it is possible the catch a virus from someone else.

Really, what you are saying is that people have caught a Stupid-Virus. It makes them believe a bunch of stuff that medical snake oil salesmen have tricked them into thinking.

Find a cure for the Stupid-Virus, and people would live a lot longer because they wouldn't fall victim to the medical lies as easily.

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Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: madnessteat on May 23, 2020, 07:59:51 AM
I agree. Large pharmaceutical companies make huge amounts of money on people who comply with the requirements of their governments but do not even analyze the benefits of these requirements on their own. The media zombie people and force them to act recklessly. 


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on May 24, 2020, 01:38:14 AM
I don't mind people wearing masks. But when it is older people, since the masks hinder their breathing, and don't really protect them, I feel so sad for them. They should be outside, inhaling the fresh air... if they have any fresh air in smog-laden Phoenix, that is.

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Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Bezobraznike on May 24, 2020, 06:20:20 PM
   I didn't buy a mask, but I got them on my work, whole box for two of us! I took a couple for home, and I could take
more! Real money is in the companies that had to buy masks for employees, and they are buying trunks with masks
and gloves. And antibacterial soaps and all other things, it's a lot of money if every company had to buy it!
   Some companies lost a lot of money during this pandemic, but some companies made a lot of money!


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on May 24, 2020, 07:36:28 PM
   I didn't buy a mask, but I got them on my work, whole box for two of us! I took a couple for home, and I could take
more! Real money is in the companies that had to buy masks for employees, and they are buying trunks with masks
and gloves. And antibacterial soaps and all other things, it's a lot of money if every company had to buy it!
   Some companies lost a lot of money during this pandemic, but some companies made a lot of money!

But won't it be very difficult breathing if you soak your mask in antibacterial soaps or bleach?

 ;D


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: lee82917 on May 24, 2020, 07:56:44 PM
Masks protect other people a little when you breathe, but not so much. It’s also bad for you. I don't wear a mask.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on May 24, 2020, 07:58:28 PM
But it is so much fun trying to identify all your friends when they are wearing a mask, isn't it?

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Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on May 26, 2020, 04:03:42 PM
Masks protect other people a little when you breathe, but not so much. It’s also bad for you. I don't wear a mask.

Everyone acts on its own wisdom to pass at the end but it's better to die of the old age then of COVID. I do wear mask, not the advanced one,  but the simple respirator allowing me to feel  responsible for my health at least.


The problem with old-age thinking is, nobody has identified what old-age death really is... except for Dr. Joel Walleck, that is. Most old-age people who don't die from a disease, die from cellular starvation. However, the vast majority of old people who die, die from some virus or bacteria that their immune systems can't handle.

So, take your pick. Get Covid and let your immune system handle it by being healthy nutritionally. Or die from something that your immune system can't handle... like Covid, or thousands of other viruses and bacteria. Or, you might simply die from cellular starvation where your immune system becomes so sensitive that it won't even allow your cells pass toxins and to take in nutrients... because they might be harmful.

In other words, you are s*** out of luck. The best you can do is good nutrition, and good hygiene. What is "good?" Do both, but don't overdo either... like face masks because of a virus.

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Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Tash on May 27, 2020, 03:45:47 AM
Been to the beach/boulevard yesterday, thousands of people, 9 wearing masks, was very uplifting. One guy wore it around the throat, apparently its just as effective or even better as he can get more fresh oxygen to the brain.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on May 27, 2020, 04:27:32 AM
Been to the beach/boulevard yesterday, thousands of people, 9 wearing masks, was very uplifting. One guy wore it around the throat, apparently its just as effective or even better as he can get more fresh oxygen to the brain.

He didn't want his adam's apple to get sunburned.     ;D


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: madnessteat on May 27, 2020, 03:21:54 PM
Mankind will not be able to constantly wear masks, keep social distance and stay at home.

I read somewhere that vaccination against one virus helps to reduce immunity to other viruses, and the vaccines have a negative effect on the human body. So vaccination won't solve the problem. We need to develop a collective immunity and fight the virus naturally.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Lizzylove1 on May 27, 2020, 04:12:56 PM
There are many conspiracy theorem surrounding this Covid-19, Trump doesn't wear face mask and some other world leaders. I only wear it while going out because of law enforcement officers in my country. I experience difficult breathe while wearing it.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on May 27, 2020, 05:10:04 PM
When you look for it, you will find that most medical professionals - and especially the big names in medicine - are stating that masks won't do much, if any, good, and might even be detrimental for some people.

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Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Tash on May 27, 2020, 05:40:37 PM
Been to the Marina today and first chartered yachts went out, officially to "test drive" it. Buying or selling of it was always ok.
Was Never a requirement to wear the muzzle in public only inside shops. It was always possible to buy fruit or veggies on open market stand without it. Today went inside medium-sized supermarket without it, in smaller shops people went in days ago. Little non essential shops are closed, but do "stocktake" work.
As soon as most realized the whole Covid is a scam for the most part people give a flying f*ck.

https://i.ibb.co/Dwz1RMw/5omwloqdoh051.jpg (https://ibb.co/c2kyr82)


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Nathanz on May 27, 2020, 06:16:37 PM
For me, wearing a facemask still makes a difference rather than wearing nothing at all. Wearing a face mask will prevent a person to infect more and more people. Alternatives out there that will surely cover your whole face is way way more expensive that wearing a face mask. I know that there is a risk when we only have face mask on our face but it comes with precautionary measure to assure that everyone knows what they are doing. I know that wearing a face mask will just contribute to waste, but dont we think that it's the least we can do to actually prevent virus from spreading? Just my two cents though.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Tash on May 28, 2020, 05:33:45 AM

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So, take your pick. Get Covid and let your immune system handle it by being healthy nutritionally.

This is extraordinarily dangerous and provocative advice. If you are so bold go to hospital to care for people suffering from COVID and prove that your words are nor empty ones. Everyone sitting at keyboard in the safe environment may feel the hero.

If that would be possible i be there helping, no worries. Viruses are damaged/corrupt cells.


COVID-19 is not a acute viral pneumonia impacting the respiratory system but rather an inflammation-based immunological response that leads to thrombosis (clotting in the lungs) which kills the patient. Inflammation and the ticking (clotting) of Blood prevents it from carrying oxygen and the patient eventually die of asphyxiation.
German autopsy report    https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M20-2003


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Darkoth89 on May 28, 2020, 06:23:47 AM

Viruses are damaged/corrupt cells.


No, they're not!


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: tvbcof on May 29, 2020, 08:19:56 AM
...
COVID-19 is not a acute viral pneumonia impacting the respiratory system but rather an inflammation-based immunological response that leads to thrombosis (clotting in the lungs) which kills the patient. Inflammation and the ticking (clotting) of Blood prevents it from carrying oxygen and the patient eventually die of asphyxiation.
German autopsy report    https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M20-2003

Clotting of the blood sounds to me more like the kind of injury I would expect from exposure to see from radiation, and especially from specific frequencies which cause specific molecular structures to resonate.

If it is true that there has been exceptional activity in setting up new cell towers with capabilities of operating on untested frequency ranges (e.g., up into the 100 GHz ranges), then it seems likely that there would be more 'burn-in' testing of the deployments going on during this 'epidemic'.  And, consequently, injuries to susceptible people perhaps.

I wonder if anyone is evaluating the damage in the context of anything other than a coronavirus infection?  Most of the hospitals in my location have a cell array on their roof or a tower nearby as do most schools.  According to the U.S. FCC, all testing of effects of 5G have been left to industry, and according to industry they have done no tests.  Ergo, it is possible that this type of damage is not only possible but fairly easy to achieve and nobody would know it.  Or I should say, those who have done this kind of testing and do know what kinds of impacts are possible (since the military/industrial complex has done extensive work on millimeter-wave weapons) would not be expected to say much.  It's classified.



Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Tash on May 29, 2020, 10:43:46 AM
...
COVID-19 is not a acute viral pneumonia impacting the respiratory system but rather an inflammation-based immunological response that leads to thrombosis (clotting in the lungs) which kills the patient. Inflammation and the ticking (clotting) of Blood prevents it from carrying oxygen and the patient eventually die of asphyxiation.
German autopsy report    https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/M20-2003

Clotting of the blood sounds to me more like the kind of injury I would expect from exposure to see from radiation, and especially from specific frequencies which cause specific molecular structures to resonate.

If it is true that there has been exceptional activity in setting up new cell towers with capabilities of operating on untested frequency ranges (e.g., up into the 100 GHz ranges), then it seems likely that there would be more 'burn-in' testing of the deployments going on during this 'epidemic'.  And, consequently, injuries to susceptible people perhaps.

I wonder if anyone is evaluating the damage in the context of anything other than a coronavirus infection?  Most of the hospitals in my location have a cell array on their roof or a tower nearby as do most schools.  According to the U.S. FCC, all testing of effects of 5G have been left to industry, and according to industry they have done no tests.  Ergo, it is possible that this type of damage is not only possible but fairly easy to achieve and nobody would know it.  Or I should say, those who have done this kind of testing and do know what kinds of impacts are possible (since the military/industrial complex has done extensive work on millimeter-wave weapons) would not be expected to say much.  It's classified.



The question is which frequency causes the blood to clott.
There is also a lot of other factors contributing. How contactive a person is, either with bad pH value, junk food diet or metals in body from vaccines (alu) or bad air.
Medication like hydroxychloroquine (Zinc) or MMS work because they are Alkaline and thining the blood. 90% of Ventilator patients die because the air pumped in clogs the lungs more and more. Healthy blood pH is between 7.35 to 7.45, saliva should be between 7.0 and 7.5, readings lower than 6.2 is unhealthy acidic.
We do know most deaths are from the obese or aged. Thick blood clots easier and as soon as some clotting accrues to immunsystem tries to correct it, making things worse and worse. Takes days to show signs gradually feeling worse. Without sufficient Alkaline food in early stage or medication latter on its only a matter of time before death occurs.

Mobile 5G signals is between 0.6 GHz to 86 Ghz (wavelenght 50 cm - 3.5 mm) Other tech also uses this frequencys like Led street light...

We do know 2.4xGhz, oxygen atoms vibrate create heat (microwave oven) it is also used with bluetooth, mobile, routher......
Yes some people use wireless headphones. Tell me in 10 years time how Sous-vide cooking the brain worked out.

We know at  60 Ghz  (https://www.rfglobalnet.com/doc/fixed-wireless-communications-at-60ghz-unique-0001https://www.rfglobalnet.com/doc/fixed-wireless-communications-at-60ghz-unique-0001) oxygen atoms O2 rotate and seperate, absorp the Oxygen

We do know 93 Ghz is a non leathal weapon (very lethal with more time)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvlaytcltDk

We do know lethal microwave weapons exist.   To become small, means water is extracted, dried fruit
https://youtu.be/IDoLPD3XfDU?t=16  https://youtu.be/fOUZgIObvCI   https://youtu.be/KOXdAuMFXxU

CNN REPORT from 1985!!! Admitting EMF's + 60ghz  IS A WEAPON!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iPKb5VymeA&feature=youtu.be


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on May 29, 2020, 11:30:56 AM

We do know lethal microwave weapons exist.   To become small, means water is extracted, dried fruit
https://youtu.be/IDoLPD3XfDU?t=16  https://youtu.be/fOUZgIObvCI   https://youtu.be/KOXdAuMFXxU


How about if we take the magnetron out of a microwave oven, hook a handle to it, wear a backpack with a battery and transformer, and use the magnetron for a gun?

https://hackaday.com/2016/10/22/trio-of-magnetrons-power-a-microwave-rifle/

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Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Tash on May 29, 2020, 01:44:53 PM

We do know lethal microwave weapons exist.   To become small, means water is extracted, dried fruit
https://youtu.be/IDoLPD3XfDU?t=16  https://youtu.be/fOUZgIObvCI   https://youtu.be/KOXdAuMFXxU


How about if we take the magnetron out of a microwave oven, hook a handle to it, wear a backpack with a battery and transformer, and use the magnetron for a gun?

https://hackaday.com/2016/10/22/trio-of-magnetrons-power-a-microwave-rifle/

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Goes very well with this guy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6FbUiiwutQ
But he is outside radiowave spectrum 1 hz-300 Ghz at 620–680 THz wavelenght of blue light




Masks protect other people a little when you breathe, but not so much. It’s also bad for you. I don't wear a mask.

I think masks are regrettable for us Masks have many harmful effects on the health of those who have breathing problems. There is no need for a mask to control the virus it's possible to control everything through caution.

Mask prevent proper exhaustion of CO2 and it is the biggest source of acid in the body, re-inhaling it just makes things worse.
Carbon dioxide (E number E290) lots of drinks are carbonated, mineral water, beer, soft drinks.....
For every 1 part of acidic food (beef, breads, pasta, sugar, wine, table salt, seafood, beer, processed cheese, coffee, snacks...)
2 parts alkaline foods should be consumed (fruits, lentils, seaweed, green beans, carrots, kale, broccoli, asparagus, fruits....)
In spring when supply of fresh fruit and veggies runs low and diet is more meat, grain products and little sun, people have some dis-ease.
Acidic blood prevents oxygen from reaching cells, which stops cells from functioning properly.
Rainwater has a neutral pH 7. (well some years ago anyway....)


Short and simple:
Healthy is - + (harmonic neutral pH of 7 - 7.5)
Acid can donate  a proton + or bind with electron -- (imbalance -- +) dis-ease ridden body
Chlorine dioxide is a oxidizing agent,  it oxidizes other substances , accepts electrons in a chemical reaction
Redox, bring the imbalance back into balance - +




Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Tash on June 01, 2020, 10:18:26 AM
TL;DR

One mask wouldn't have made a difference on stopping of pandemic but if they were on millions of people it would make decisive impact on its spread. Recently, in  one of the telegram's channels (https://t.me/c/1347842745/88026), me  has found a good  picture  which has a helpful way to look at the problem.  It was in Russian but I have translated the writings on the drawing



Either worthless shill or just stupid.
Mask will not stop blood from clotting it certainly makes ill if long term use.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BARADED on June 01, 2020, 12:57:05 PM
I make protective masks for children and doctors for free! Masks protect against coronavirus https://smartairfilters.com/en/blog/best-materials-make-diy-masks-virus/ (https://smartairfilters.com/en/blog/best-materials-make-diy-masks-virus/)


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Tash on June 01, 2020, 02:20:40 PM
I make protective masks for children and doctors for free! Masks protect against coronavirus https://smartairfilters.com/en/blog/best-materials-make-diy-masks-virus/ (https://smartairfilters.com/en/blog/best-materials-make-diy-masks-virus/)
Put two on, the second prodects against cancer as well. Rumor has it if three put on at the same time your free from all dis-eases.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: tippytoes on June 02, 2020, 08:19:49 AM
TL;DR

One mask wouldn't have made a difference on stopping of pandemic but if they were on millions of people it would make decisive impact on its spread. Recently, in  one of the telegram's channels (https://t.me/c/1347842745/88026), me  has found a good  picture  which has a helpful way to look at the problem.  It was in Russian but I have translated the writings on the drawing



Either worthless shill or just stupid.
Mask will not stop blood from clotting it certainly makes ill if long term use.


Only stupid person can think of  them as of the long-term items.  Educated people should change them every time after exposure to the potentially dangerous  environment. I wonder, what kind of person you are,  judging your saying you're not burdened by  intelligence.

I make protective masks for children and doctors for free! Masks protect against coronavirus https://smartairfilters.com/en/blog/best-materials-make-diy-masks-virus/ (https://smartairfilters.com/en/blog/best-materials-make-diy-masks-virus/)

Interesting, what kind of materials do you use in home-made masks?

Disposable face masks are meant to be thrown after one-time use. Those washable face masks will really not protect you from virus but will only be a protection to others in case you have. So much discussion for this face mask, I guess.  ;D


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: xen1oph on June 02, 2020, 01:06:30 PM
I personally wore a mask for all this time only 2 times. Laws in my country oblige me to wear them everywhere, but in my opinion it’s ridiculous, because it does not withstand any medical criticism.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: tvbcof on June 02, 2020, 01:26:05 PM
I personally wore a mask for all this time only 2 times. Laws in my country oblige me to wear them everywhere, but in my opinion it’s ridiculous, because it does not withstand any medical criticism.

I've got the cheapest smallest mask I've ever seen.  My wife got boxes of them early on.  I bend the nose wire the wrong way so as to let a lot of air in around that part.  They fit so poorly that a lot of air comes in around the cheeks anyway.  I've got the mask leaking so much that a breeze distinctly cools my whole mouth area.  Much of the time I keep the mask down around my neck, but when I am in danger of getting s shop or employee in trouble I'll hoist it up to barely cover my nose.



Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Fishmooney on June 02, 2020, 01:53:48 PM
Just to be clear, it depends on the kind of mask you are using.

Also, the mask is helpful for the COVID not only because it limits the risk of breathing the virus, some reports speak of 80% plus, if you and the person you speak with both have the mask and the virus is close to you but above all, because it drastically limits the release of the virus in the air if the positive ones maybe asymptomatic you are.

In the countries where they used the masks, the contagion factor has decreased, I am not a doctor but it does not seem to me to be a coincidence.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: madnessteat on June 02, 2020, 03:29:58 PM
I've got the cheapest smallest mask I've ever seen.  My wife got boxes of them early on.  I bend the nose wire the wrong way so as to let a lot of air in around that part.  They fit so poorly that a lot of air comes in around the cheeks anyway.  I've got the mask leaking so much that a breeze distinctly cools my whole mouth area.  Much of the time I keep the mask down around my neck, but when I am in danger of getting s shop or employee in trouble I'll hoist it up to barely cover my nose.



That's right. Most people wear masks just because the authorities say so. I often see people with masks that only close their mouths and keep their nose open. On the one hand, such people observe stupid regulations, but on the other they themselves realize that it is completely useless.


If your level of protection is lower than that of the person in this picture, you are not protected from the coronavirus.

https://i.imgur.com/fuYaPcb.jpg
Source: https://mcdn.tvzvezda.ru/storage/news_other_images/2020/05/31/a16a4232d8fa4092bfb3b8bc81c3a5f6.jpg


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on June 02, 2020, 10:56:46 PM
It ain't about masks. It's about crippling identification so the Commies/Antifa can take over.


Communist terrorist organization Antifa plans PURGE of American suburbs/family homes starting tonigh (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/283962-2020-06-02-communist-terrorist-organization-antifa-plans-purge-of-american-suburbs-family.htm)



Consider yourself "warned" America. It's not just a home invasion "thriller" movie anymore; it's the beginning of the litmus test for Socialist "Democrat" tyranny. How much will YOU tolerate? On Twitter, the paid-to-destroy people and property organization and extreme Left wing of George Soros, Antifa announced that they would be moving into the residential areas tonight, because they're already bored with the mega-city demolition and mayhem they've caused.

"F-the City" they decry, as groups in Portland announced gathering locations right in the middle of middle-class suburbia-style residential "hoods," nowhere near downtown, to "take what's ours" – whatever that means (probably your money, all your belongings, and your wife and kids to sell on the slave trade dark web).

Twitter shut it all down. Still, millions of screen shots of the posts are flooding truth media. Proof Trump's right about the label as a terrorist organization the military needs to handle, head on. These freaks are talking about home invasions in suburbs, beginning tonight. They're already burning churches. What's next? Mass rape and murder, like in the Purge movie series? Are all Democrat Governors being told to stand down by Obama, Soros and Bill Gates?

Civil War is under way in America: Trump and the U.S. patriots vs. the violent stooges of Soros

The hills have eyes folks. If and when Antifa knocks down the wrong front door or burns the wrong car in the "burbs," they're going to start finding rude awakenings that look like the defense of the Bundy Ranch or the Richmond Capital, with ex-military from Iraq and Afghanistan smoking them all with automatic weapons. That's where it's going if Antifa invades homes in nice neighborhoods. That's exactly where it's going. If you think for one minute Antifa riots have anything to do with George Floyd's death, think again.

Antifa militants are domestic terrorists. They're admitting on video they work for George Soros groups and are paid to destroy things and recruit more people to destroy property and people's lives. Meanwhile, heaps of bricks are showing up at protest locations on pallets, ready to be thrown through store windows and automobile windshields, or at anyone who's wearing anything red.

A year ago, Republican senators Cruz (Tx.) and Cassidy (La.) tried their best to push for the pro-facist "anti-fascist" group to be labeled the domestic terrorists they are (that was after the conservative Portland journalist was attacked).

"Hateful, intolerant radicals" use aggressive violence to advance unhinged agenda, explains Senator Cruz

So Antifa is now bored with destroying cop cars, looting stores, beating to death innocent protesters, and lighting churches and banks on fire, so they're heading into the neighborhoods to confiscate what they claim is theirs. These are convicts and thugs who love getting paid to destroy property and people, because the don't fear jail, where they'll ironically probably die of Covid-19, if they get caught.

The major problem is everybody is wearing a mask thanks to these Democrat governors who said it's mandatory at all times, everywhere, so it's not just Antifa that can't be identified on video, but Black Lives Matter, innocent bystanders, normal peaceful protesters, store owners, and the like.

Now, in America, even if you're a good cop who treats people fairly, you're still the enemy of Antifa, who want complete anarchy and Soros to rule the sick, dying world of "Democrat" morons who think "democratic socialism" is better than having Trump as President. Senator Cruz and Donald Trump are right. It's time for heavily-armed military forces to start pillaging the pillagers and putting them in jail for 10 years to life.

Antifa is a terrorist organization that pays violent psychopaths, buses them into cities from all over the country, and arms them with sticks, flammable propellants, Molotov cocktails and bricks, and pays them bonuses for burning down buildings and recruiting more people to do the same.

Watch as a man admits George Soros pays violent protesters to destroy our nation.


George Soros "Paid Protestor" Opens Up To TYT?!
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/op1yqcIdhbE/hq720.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEjCOgCEMoBSFryq4qpAxUIARUAAAAAGAElAADIQj0AgKJDeAE=&rs=AOn4CLBlN00ioKGV-fXPYmhV55GlIt5CeA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=22&v=op1yqcIdhbE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=22&v=op1yqcIdhbE)


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Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Nathanz on June 03, 2020, 05:17:33 PM
Totally disagree. Wearing as a mask in this kind of situation will surely make a difference especially about when it comes to your health safety. Covid-19 is mainly transmitted by droplets from a person who is positive from the virus to another person. Wearing a mask will prevent you from acquiring those droplets which can infect you. Wear a mask and observe proper social distancing in order to avoid passing the virus from other people.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on June 03, 2020, 05:30:55 PM
Totally disagree. Wearing as a mask in this kind of situation will surely make a difference especially about when it comes to your health safety. Covid-19 is mainly transmitted by droplets from a person who is positive from the virus to another person. Wearing a mask will prevent you from acquiring those droplets which can infect you. Wear a mask and observe proper social distancing in order to avoid passing the virus from other people.

However, if you research it, you will find loads of doctors that say masks useless or dangerous. This is only one of the places you can go to see what professional doctors are saying - https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq6oOuhSx7ESreh6m9LGy6Q/videos.

Besides, Covid was already around the whole world by last December. Odds are you and everybody has it.

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Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Naida_BR on June 03, 2020, 06:01:01 PM
I personally wore a mask for all this time only 2 times. Laws in my country oblige me to wear them everywhere, but in my opinion it’s ridiculous, because it does not withstand any medical criticism.

Same in my country.
They have made it obligatory to wear masks - I have to do it on my job as well but it is impossible.
If you wear a mask for so many hours you might have problems in your respiratory system.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Darkoth89 on June 04, 2020, 01:56:59 PM
It ain't about masks. It's about crippling identification so the Commies/Antifa can take over.


Communist terrorist organization Antifa plans PURGE of American suburbs/family homes starting tonigh (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/283962-2020-06-02-communist-terrorist-organization-antifa-plans-purge-of-american-suburbs-family.htm)



https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/weirdalfoil_2322.jpg
Source: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TinfoilHat


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on June 04, 2020, 03:27:17 PM
It ain't about masks. It's about crippling identification so the Commies/Antifa can take over.


Communist terrorist organization Antifa plans PURGE of American suburbs/family homes starting tonigh (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/283962-2020-06-02-communist-terrorist-organization-antifa-plans-purge-of-american-suburbs-family.htm)



https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/weirdalfoil_2322.jpg
Source: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TinfoilHat

Your picture shows that you are quite handsome. But it indicates that you don't have a clue.

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Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on June 04, 2020, 03:29:06 PM
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However, if you research it, you will find loads of doctors that say masks useless or dangerous.


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I wonder,  if they say so  why they wear them themselves? In my guess they are forced to such statements because they fear the masks (I'm speaking  about medical-grade rather of homemade masks) will  be sold out and the hospitals stock   may not be enough  to secure themselves.

Doctors wear masks to help their patients. They selflessly (or for money) place themselves in harm's way so that they don't infect patients by what they might be carrying themselves.

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Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: madnessteat on June 04, 2020, 05:23:13 PM
Totally disagree. Wearing as a mask in this kind of situation will surely make a difference especially about when it comes to your health safety. Covid-19 is mainly transmitted by droplets from a person who is positive from the virus to another person. Wearing a mask will prevent you from acquiring those droplets which can infect you. Wear a mask and observe proper social distancing in order to avoid passing the virus from other people.

Only you have missed one nuance that when distributed by a drip-and-droplet, small droplets can get to another mucosa - the eyes. And whatever mask protects your respiratory tract coronavirus can easily penetrate into your body. Therefore, the protection should be complex and not consist of just one mask.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Darkoth89 on June 04, 2020, 06:06:55 PM
Totally disagree. Wearing as a mask in this kind of situation will surely make a difference especially about when it comes to your health safety. Covid-19 is mainly transmitted by droplets from a person who is positive from the virus to another person. Wearing a mask will prevent you from acquiring those droplets which can infect you. Wear a mask and observe proper social distancing in order to avoid passing the virus from other people.

Only you have missed one nuance that when distributed by a drip-and-droplet, small droplets can get to another mucosa - the eyes. And whatever mask protects your respiratory tract coronavirus can easily penetrate into your body. Therefore, the protection should be complex and not consist of just one mask.

It's been you who missed the point. You don't wear the mask to protect yourself, you wear it so that you don't spread the virus with every breath.  


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: madnessteat on June 04, 2020, 07:19:59 PM
It's been you who missed the point. You don't wear the mask to protect yourself, you wear it so that you don't spread the virus with every breath. 

I do not wear or advise anyone to wear masks or respirators if they do not have ffp2-ffp3 protection class, as this is a completely useless exercise which is more likely to cause a negative impact on your health than save others even if you are asymptomatic.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Darkoth89 on June 04, 2020, 07:52:43 PM
It's been you who missed the point. You don't wear the mask to protect yourself, you wear it so that you don't spread the virus with every breath. 

I do not wear or advise anyone to wear masks or respirators if they do not have ffp2-ffp3 protection class, as this is a completely useless exercise which is more likely to cause a negative impact on your health than save others even if you are asymptomatic.

So you'd advice others to wear masks if they have ffp2 or ffp3 ones?! But you just said:

Only you have missed one nuance that when distributed by a drip-and-droplet, small droplets can get to another mucosa - the eyes. And whatever mask protects your respiratory tract coronavirus can easily penetrate into your body. Therefore, the protection should be complex and not consist of just one mask.

You are contradicting yourself, bro.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: jackg on June 04, 2020, 08:46:19 PM
I was at a point where I was about to lock this thread but for some reason our government are going to start to impose fines on people who don't wear facemasks on public transport. These aren't medical grade masks they're suggesting because "those are for healthcare workers only" (even though almost every employer is using them now). The handmade face coverings are only going to do well based on what they'remade of, things like T-Shirts can offer partial protection against large particles, but things like socks/jumpers are probably going to do nothing. It's also worth noting these just stopp the bigger particles getting through and will do nothing for the smaller particles that travel a further distance  ::).


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on June 06, 2020, 09:28:04 AM
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However, if you research it, you will find loads of doctors that say masks useless or dangerous.


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I wonder,  if they say so  why they wear them themselves? In my guess they are forced to such statements because they fear the masks (I'm speaking  about medical-grade rather of homemade masks) will  be sold out and the hospitals stock   may not be enough  to secure themselves.

Doctors wear masks to help their patients. They selflessly (or for money) place themselves in harm's way so that they don't infect patients by what they might be carrying themselves.

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That "stands on its ear". How the masks  can help doctors'  patients? I always thought  infusions, medications,  pulmonary ventilation and stuff like that is  potential to help rather than mask on the doctor's face.

It's absolutely a good thing to think. But in this case, there are so many doctors around, that it should be easy to find a few who will contradict each other.

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Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Mrengage on June 06, 2020, 10:39:54 PM
They won't protect you and you're just adding more waste to the land and water... They also don't cover your eyes which is probably how most infection gets in.

According to healthline (https://www.healthline.com/health-news/how-to-protect-yourself-while-traveling-during-the-coronavirus-outbreak) and many other sources, COVID-19/the novel coronavirus has a diameter of ~120nm while face masks only have a filter up to 300nm. I've been looking through information on facemasks have two main purposes:
1. Industrial: This is where someone is commonly working with small particles that need to be blocked going into their respiratory tract, such as wood workers and the like. Thre is also a use case for these in China for their pollution levels since carbon particulates above 100 micrometers in size are known for increasing the risk of asthma and 300 micrometers are known for producing carcinogens pretty quickly (I hope i got that the right way round).
2. Medical: Contrary to what a lot of people would thiink, the N95 model (I'm told is the most popular in medicine) actually just stops the surgeon/practitioner from projecting salivery deposits onto a patient and aren't actually for reducing the amount of infection spread between the two - probably the reason most doctors actually don't wear these. Quarrentine outfits probably give the doctor a certain amount of time in with a patient before they're changed, or have additional tuping to allow for them to receive air from outside the quarrentine unit (either that or they have more advanced filters, there's probably some fancy electrostatics devices for this sort of thing).

Anyway, your face masks just mean you're improving everyone else's air quality and may mean your immune system starts to become complacent (well if my nose is already covered, I clearly don't have to do anything)...

And the eyes link back with the same tubes as your nose and mouth, hence why when you have strong eye drops, you can taste them in the back of your mouth or when you throw up you feel your eyes burning a little.



IF you're under 35, it's highly unlikely it'll kill you.
If you're over 35 but are still pretty healthy, you shouldn't face much issue with it either. I've known 60&70 year olds to have caught pneumonia and barely noticed it (just got a temperature and shivers). If you worry about it too much or you're not healthy, that's when problems can start to arise and probably the hope with a lot of mainstream media that you will catch something and give a payout to big pharma (I'm looking at you USA)..
In Africa let me say in Nigeria here it is compulsory, in our day to day activities. Don't have it or don't put it on at few police checkpoints you will be arrested and detained.face Mask In my own point is meant for those who are sick or who has some kind of symptoms of covid19.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: HereNow on June 07, 2020, 12:51:33 AM
They won't protect you and you're just adding more waste to the land and water... They also don't cover your eyes which is probably how most infection gets in.

According to healthline (https://www.healthline.com/health-news/how-to-protect-yourself-while-traveling-during-the-coronavirus-outbreak) and many other sources, COVID-19/the novel coronavirus has a diameter of ~120nm while face masks only have a filter up to 300nm. I've been looking through information on facemasks have two main purposes:
1. Industrial: This is where someone is commonly working with small particles that need to be blocked going into their respiratory tract, such as wood workers and the like. Thre is also a use case for these in China for their pollution levels since carbon particulates above 100 micrometers in size are known for increasing the risk of asthma and 300 micrometers are known for producing carcinogens pretty quickly (I hope i got that the right way round).
2. Medical: Contrary to what a lot of people would thiink, the N95 model (I'm told is the most popular in medicine) actually just stops the surgeon/practitioner from projecting salivery deposits onto a patient and aren't actually for reducing the amount of infection spread between the two - probably the reason most doctors actually don't wear these. Quarrentine outfits probably give the doctor a certain amount of time in with a patient before they're changed, or have additional tuping to allow for them to receive air from outside the quarrentine unit (either that or they have more advanced filters, there's probably some fancy electrostatics devices for this sort of thing).

Anyway, your face masks just mean you're improving everyone else's air quality and may mean your immune system starts to become complacent (well if my nose is already covered, I clearly don't have to do anything)...

And the eyes link back with the same tubes as your nose and mouth, hence why when you have strong eye drops, you can taste them in the back of your mouth or when you throw up you feel your eyes burning a little.



IF you're under 35, it's highly unlikely it'll kill you.
If you're over 35 but are still pretty healthy, you shouldn't face much issue with it either. I've known 60&70 year olds to have caught pneumonia and barely noticed it (just got a temperature and shivers). If you worry about it too much or you're not healthy, that's when problems can start to arise and probably the hope with a lot of mainstream media that you will catch something and give a payout to big pharma (I'm looking at you USA)..

That's the point of the facemasks, to protect others. That's been known since the beginning. You wear a facemask to protect others from yourself, and in turn others wear facemasks to protect you and others themselves. Then you have a holes who are inconsiderate.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on June 07, 2020, 02:05:08 AM
We gotta keep focusing on facemasks, to give "them" time to take over the world while we are watching the facemasks.

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Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Tash on June 07, 2020, 02:39:59 AM
They won't protect you and you're just adding more waste to the land and water... They also don't cover your eyes which is probably how most infection gets in.

According to healthline (https://www.healthline.com/health-news/how-to-protect-yourself-while-traveling-during-the-coronavirus-outbreak) and many other sources, COVID-19/the novel coronavirus has a diameter of ~120nm while face masks only have a filter up to 300nm. I've been looking through information on facemasks have two main purposes:
1. Industrial: This is where someone is commonly working with small particles that need to be blocked going into their respiratory tract, such as wood workers and the like. Thre is also a use case for these in China for their pollution levels since carbon particulates above 100 micrometers in size are known for increasing the risk of asthma and 300 micrometers are known for producing carcinogens pretty quickly (I hope i got that the right way round).
2. Medical: Contrary to what a lot of people would thiink, the N95 model (I'm told is the most popular in medicine) actually just stops the surgeon/practitioner from projecting salivery deposits onto a patient and aren't actually for reducing the amount of infection spread between the two - probably the reason most doctors actually don't wear these. Quarrentine outfits probably give the doctor a certain amount of time in with a patient before they're changed, or have additional tuping to allow for them to receive air from outside the quarrentine unit (either that or they have more advanced filters, there's probably some fancy electrostatics devices for this sort of thing).

Anyway, your face masks just mean you're improving everyone else's air quality and may mean your immune system starts to become complacent (well if my nose is already covered, I clearly don't have to do anything)...

And the eyes link back with the same tubes as your nose and mouth, hence why when you have strong eye drops, you can taste them in the back of your mouth or when you throw up you feel your eyes burning a little.



IF you're under 35, it's highly unlikely it'll kill you.
If you're over 35 but are still pretty healthy, you shouldn't face much issue with it either. I've known 60&70 year olds to have caught pneumonia and barely noticed it (just got a temperature and shivers). If you worry about it too much or you're not healthy, that's when problems can start to arise and probably the hope with a lot of mainstream media that you will catch something and give a payout to big pharma (I'm looking at you USA)..

That's the point of the facemasks, to protect others. That's been known since the beginning. You wear a facemask to protect others from yourself, and in turn others wear facemasks to protect you and others themselves. Then you have a holes who are inconsiderate.
Someone failed to prodect you. Now go and get the COVID shot, your in desperate need.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: mysterious1998 on July 11, 2020, 09:07:01 AM
and In my country government is just spending millions just to promote compulsory wearing of mask during pandemic. By the way can you provide me the sources which justify your post factually ?


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on July 11, 2020, 11:13:37 AM
and In my country government is just spending millions just to promote compulsory wearing of mask during pandemic. By the way can you provide me the sources which justify your post factually ?

You probably aren't talking to me, but, who are you going to believe? The mainstream media? Doctors and hospitals that are making millions off diagnosing people to have Covid?


The truth? Del Bigtree shows why the professionals he interviews are telling the truth. But you have to think a little. He also shows why the liars' lies are lies. But you have to think a little.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq6oOuhSx7ESreh6m9LGy6Q/videos

Also, Tony Robbins - https://www.youtube.com/user/TonyRobbinsLive/videos.

Also, Dr. Kaufman - https://www.bitchute.com/video/WI5iqFSgStE9/

But you have to think a little.

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Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Kong Hey Pakboy on July 11, 2020, 01:47:53 PM

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That's the point of the facemasks, to protect others. That's been known since the beginning. You wear a facemask to protect others from yourself, and in turn others wear facemasks to protect you and others themselves. Then you have a holes who are inconsiderate.


Right, viral airborne particles flouting around are capable to infect a huge number of people. If everyone has seen the results of the experiment carried out by Rich Davis, the  the question  of whether there is a need to buy a mask  would have been cleared by itself.




How can buying and using facemasks won't help you from the coronavirus because every doctor, scientist, nurses, and other people always recommend wearing your facemasks and proper hygiene to protect yourself from the virus. The picture itself is the best proof that wearing facemasks could help you stay away from any illness and diseases.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: jrrsparkles on July 11, 2020, 02:18:17 PM
How can buying and using facemasks won't help you from the coronavirus because every doctor, scientist, nurses, and other people always recommend wearing your facemasks and proper hygiene to protect yourself from the virus. The picture itself is the best proof that wearing facemasks could help you stay away from any illness and diseases.
You are wearing just a facemask while doctors and scientists wear complete PPE kits that is the difference. And many countries even don't have enough N 95 masks due to its huge demand so it is like one of the business strategies created by biggest companies.Also mentione about sanitizers, they can say 99% of bacteria will die if you use sanitizers but covid 19 isn't a bacteria right. ::)


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: FIFA worldcup on July 11, 2020, 04:53:05 PM
How can buying and using facemasks won't help you from the coronavirus because every doctor, scientist, nurses, and other people always recommend wearing your facemasks and proper hygiene to protect yourself from the virus. The picture itself is the best proof that wearing facemasks could help you stay away from any illness and diseases.
You are wearing just a facemask while doctors and scientists wear complete PPE kits that is the difference. And many countries even don't have enough N 95 masks due to its huge demand so it is like one of the business strategies created by biggest companies.Also mentione about sanitizers, they can say 99% of bacteria will die if you use sanitizers but covid 19 isn't a bacteria right. ::)

Covid-19 is a poison which is developed to kill the Mankind and poisons do not have vaccine. Wearing facemask is a trend but it has not helped reduce the covid-19 cases, did it ? Facemask making companies including N95 ones are making a lot of money in this pandemic. If you buy those expensive masks, you can basically helping their business grow.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on July 12, 2020, 06:34:52 AM

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That's the point of the facemasks, to protect others. That's been known since the beginning. You wear a facemask to protect others from yourself, and in turn others wear facemasks to protect you and others themselves. Then you have a holes who are inconsiderate.


Right, viral airborne particles flouting around are capable to infect a huge number of people. If everyone has seen the results of the experiment carried out by Rich Davis, the  the question  of whether there is a need to buy a mask  would have been cleared by itself.

How can buying and using facemasks won't help you from the coronavirus because every doctor, scientist, nurses, and other people always recommend wearing your facemasks and proper hygiene to protect yourself from the virus. The picture itself is the best proof that wearing facemasks could help you stay away from any illness and diseases.

I think the context of my post is not hard to comprehend for people with common intelligence. If you carefully read it   you would noticed both inside text and picture  promote wearing mask. It helps you and your surroundings. Take care of yourself, Kong Hey Pakboy

Wearing a mask is not only dumb. It's stupid. Here's why.

1. Even though a mask might work momentarily, it will fail because nobody will ever wear it properly forever. You'd have to do this to make it effective:
https://www.oddee.com/wp-content/uploads/_media/imgs/articles2/a99906_bubble-kids_6.jpg (https://www.oddee.com/wp-content/uploads/_media/imgs/articles2/a99906_bubble-kids_6.jpg).
Check https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=kid+living+in+a+bubble&iax=images&ia=images.

2. Any vaccine that comes out will not be tested properly. It will take well over a year to test it for safety. Are you going to keep wearing a mask like the bubble kid, that long?

3. The mask idea is new, unproven science the way it is being done. But it is being proven to not work. Why isn't it working? Because it cuts down on herd immunity. You want to get immune to the virus, don't you? That means you need to get a touch of it, so your immune system learns what to fight, and figures out a way to fight it.

4. Watch the bunch of videos where Del Bigtree talks to various professionals about masks https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq6oOuhSx7ESreh6m9LGy6Q/videos. Go to the site, and search on "mask." There are many short videos that show the silliness, and even the danger, of wearing masks.

5. Unless you get properly tested negative, you probably already have it... Covid-19.

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Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: 5Ksana_HandMade on July 12, 2020, 10:01:55 AM
Hello! I do not buy masks, I make them and give them to children and doctors for free.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: rehash on July 12, 2020, 12:45:10 PM
OP just do some research and see that countries that used masks aggressively have much lower rate of infection.
They are not bullet proof but they do help a lot if most of population wears them.
About the waste you just have to be responsible.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: gmjutt6 on July 12, 2020, 02:20:57 PM
Disgusting. How can you say that? For a while I assume that you are right so now think that if mask is on your mouth then it will protect you from corona to get in from nose and mouth. So this will protect you 70 percent. And if you are saying that it will get in from eyes than I don't think so because when any micro thing get in the eyes then eyes kick out them by tears.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: CreativeFx on July 12, 2020, 04:21:58 PM
Saying not to wear facemask at all? I would disagree on that. We might say its totally ineffective but how about seeing it as a means of cutting down the spread of the virus. The Covid19 spread is more strengthened when individuals dont take responsibilities to what's necessary.

Pls wear a mask today. You are helping to be part of the fight against the spread. Stay Safe


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Tash on July 12, 2020, 04:28:59 PM
Saying not to wear facemask at all? I would disagree on that. We might say its totally ineffective but how about seeing it as a means of cutting down the spread of the virus. The Covid19 spread is more strengthened when individuals dont take responsibilities to what's necessary.

Pls wear a mask today. You are helping to be part of the fight against the spread. Stay Safe
Go put 5 on  make sure they are extra good quality.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on July 12, 2020, 06:44:14 PM
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EDIT:



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Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on July 13, 2020, 11:54:49 AM

it will fail because nobody will ever wear it properly forever.

I don't think people (in mass) are so stupid to not know how to wear a mask. Even monkey can be trained to do it properly.


https://i.postimg.cc/3Ry13fq3/6ggggggggg.jpg



2. Any vaccine that comes out will not be tested properly. It will take well over a year to test it for safety.


Correct



 Are you going to keep wearing a mask like the bubble kid, that long?


If you want to live, you'll wear it longer. Sure you are free to depart as early as you want.


3. The mask idea is new, unproven science the way it is being done. But it is being proven to not work.
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Wrong. you are either stubborn to facts or intentionally misleading ppl.  


 so your immune system learns what to fight, and figures out a way to fight it.


no bodies no immune systems.




Watch the bunch of videos where Del Bigtree talks to various professionals about masks https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq6oOuhSx7ESreh6m9LGy6Q/videos. Go to the site, and search on "mask." There are many short videos that show the silliness, and even the danger, of wearing masks.



Don't follow idiots.


Remember to do your research.     :D


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Mauser on July 13, 2020, 02:51:46 PM

That's the point of the facemasks, to protect others. That's been known since the beginning. You wear a facemask to protect others from yourself, and in turn others wear facemasks to protect you and others themselves. Then you have a holes who are inconsiderate.

100% true, the face masks are not to protect yourself - you might already have corona and don't even know it - it's only to limit spreading it to other people. Even though masks are no complete protection - they definitely help. So not wearing masks is actually a risk for other people more than yourself and should be fined.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: lepbagong on July 14, 2020, 06:16:52 AM

That's the point of the facemasks, to protect others. That's been known since the beginning. You wear a facemask to protect others from yourself, and in turn others wear facemasks to protect you and others themselves. Then you have a holes who are inconsiderate.

100% true, the face masks are not to protect yourself - you might already have corona and don't even know it - it's only to limit spreading it to other people. Even though masks are no complete protection - they definitely help. So not wearing masks is actually a risk for other people more than yourself and should be fined.
totally agree, at this time the fear of the corona virus is the absence of any symptoms from people who have contracted the corona virus.
so that if it is not anticipated then transmission can be assured of rapid occurrence and this is terrible.

I agree that there is no exception at all for all using a sick and non-sick facemasker.
because that's one way to reduce transmission that is very terrible. that requires a high awareness to be able to use a facemasker every time you go outside the house.
of course, government officials can supervise those who do not use the facemasker to comply properly.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: jrrsparkles on July 14, 2020, 07:49:25 AM
How can buying and using facemasks won't help you from the coronavirus because every doctor, scientist, nurses, and other people always recommend wearing your facemasks and proper hygiene to protect yourself from the virus. The picture itself is the best proof that wearing facemasks could help you stay away from any illness and diseases.
You are wearing just a facemask while doctors and scientists wear complete PPE kits that is the difference. And many countries even don't have enough N 95 masks due to its huge demand so it is like one of the business strategies created by biggest companies.Also mentione about sanitizers, they can say 99% of bacteria will die if you use sanitizers but covid 19 isn't a bacteria right. ::)

Covid-19 is a poison which is developed to kill the Mankind and poisons do not have vaccine. Wearing facemask is a trend but it has not helped reduce the covid-19 cases, did it ? Facemask making companies including N95 ones are making a lot of money in this pandemic. If you buy those expensive masks, you can basically helping their business grow.
It isn't deadly as we think, humankind already faced more deadly virus than corona 19 but we are getting more warning to this virus just because governments wanted to use this as an economy reset which was already oversized since the last recession.Human kind is easy to be manipulated that is why we just follow the trend what has been shown to us like in media,social network, blah...


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on July 14, 2020, 06:49:59 PM
Hello! I do not buy masks, I make them and give them to children and doctors for free.

I'm seriously thinking about making mine out of fiberglass window screen... only one layer thick.

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Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: tvbcof on July 15, 2020, 05:57:49 AM

Check out the '#Masks4All'.  A group of scientpriests tied to the World Economic Forum.  They took their photos with obviously photoshopped masks to make sure that people know that they are of the class of people who don't wear masks as do the plebeians.

Wearing a mask is an obvious form of humiliation which is why it is so funny to see Trump buckle.

NBC Caught Faking COVID Case, Immunity Passports Are Here & Trump Now Say He's 'All For Masks' (https://youtu.be/mbyUKwPNYTM?t=5921)



Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on July 16, 2020, 04:40:53 PM
Face masks are good for something, I'm sure.


Why Face Masks DON'T Work, According To SCIENCE (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/286696-2020-07-15-why-face-masks-dont-work-according-to-science.htm)



Not only do medical masks not prevent the spread of virus, but a 1995 study proves that wearing a cloth mask can put you at greater risk for infection.  Ben Swann breaks down the science.


Why Face Masks DON'T Work, According To SCIENCE
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/wegZJI6NvpU/hqdefault.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEjCPYBEIoBSFryq4qpAxUIARUAAAAAGAElAADIQj0AgKJDeAE=&rs=AOn4CLBd9ZZ2o2A91IolgvXL3Qt2Cft6jA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8upEg-bEJ8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8upEg-bEJ8)


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Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: jackg on July 17, 2020, 07:08:55 PM
Face masks are good for something, I'm sure.

Most masks can provide 150L/minute of air afaik with the average person needing about 7 or 8.
Rather than linking to youtube, I'd prefer this:

https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/publications-data/using-face-masks-community-reducing-covid-19-transmission

Quote
Using face masks in the communityECDC TECHNICALREPORT2In theEU/EEA and the UK... There is no evidence that non-medical facemasks or other face coversare an effective means of respiratory protection for the wearer of the mask. Overall, various non-medical face maskswere shown to have very low filter efficiency(2–38%) [21]. In one study, cotton surgical masks were associated with a higher risk of penetration of microorganisms andILI compared to no masks[5].

I'm assuming this is just a way to boost people's confidence in crowded public spaces and then blame the ones who don't comply for the prblems that arise from the use of it...


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on July 17, 2020, 07:55:29 PM
Face masks are good for something, I'm sure.

Most masks can provide 150L/minute of air afaik with the average person needing about 7 or 8.
Rather than linking to youtube, I'd prefer this:

https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/publications-data/using-face-masks-community-reducing-covid-19-transmission

Quote
Using face masks in the communityECDC TECHNICALREPORT2In theEU/EEA and the UK... There is no evidence that non-medical facemasks or other face coversare an effective means of respiratory protection for the wearer of the mask. Overall, various non-medical face maskswere shown to have very low filter efficiency(2–38%) [21]. In one study, cotton surgical masks were associated with a higher risk of penetration of microorganisms andILI compared to no masks[5].

I'm assuming this is just a way to boost people's confidence in crowded public spaces and then blame the ones who don't comply for the prblems that arise from the use of it...

I agree with you about videos. They are hype in the way that the narrator/commentator is trying to sway you by his/her acting on-screen. I wish that they would simply list the points with the sources.

Tash put up a link to a great video that has all kinds of references for reasons why masks are useless or bad for you - https://youtu.be/RBlyh96yL7Q?t=74. And I showed one by Ben Swann - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8upEg-bEJ8. The Swann video twisted the point it was talking about, a little. And the Tash video didn't clearly give you links to the CDC sources for reasons not to wear a mask (or at least I missed them).

I wish all the authoritative sources were linked in an easy way to find the links. But even then, much news reporting has to do with rhetoric by the reporter, and the real sense of what is being portrayed isn't clear.

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Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Darkoth89 on July 17, 2020, 07:59:17 PM

[...]
I'm assuming this is just a way to boost people's confidence in crowded public spaces and then blame the ones who don't comply for the prblems that arise from the use of it...

Of couse you can blame the ones don't wearing a mask. I thought it's already well known that you don't wear facemasks to protect yourself but rather protect others from you. That's why you should also quote this from the article you posted:

Quote
A face mask may help reduce the spread of infection in the community by minimising the excretion of respiratory droplets from infected individuals who may not even know they are infected and before they develop any symptoms.

Another scientific study that gives evidence that wearing a (surgical) face mask prevents you from spreading the virus: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0843-2

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Our results indicate that surgical face masks could prevent transmission of human coronaviruses and influenza viruses from symptomatic individuals.



Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on July 18, 2020, 03:39:29 AM
^^^ but you can find other studies that say masks don't prevent virus transfer. Consider Ben Swann, for example - Why Face Masks DON'T Work, According To SCIENCE - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8upEg-bEJ8.

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Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: KnightElite on July 20, 2020, 04:07:01 AM
It is sad to see that there are a lot of people who are not believing to what face masks can do, I also saw a video posted by NowThis where a lot of people in the United States doesn't believe that face mask are effective. I think it is the main reason why their country is the no.1 in terms of having infected person and also in terms of death related cases. It is better to wear face masks than to weak oxygen later in hospital. Our lives are matter and if we want to not get infected with other infected person, be sure that we are wearing face masks.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: uneng on July 20, 2020, 05:03:37 AM
It is sad to see that there are a lot of people who are not believing to what face masks can do, I also saw a video posted by NowThis where a lot of people in the United States doesn't believe that face mask are effective. I think it is the main reason why their country is the no.1 in terms of having infected person and also in terms of death related cases. It is better to wear face masks than to weak oxygen later in hospital. Our lives are matter and if we want to not get infected with other infected person, be sure that we are wearing face masks.
On free countries where the politics are polarized, like United States, there is a lot of sabotage to inflate the numbers and drive the common sense/public opinion against the establishment's targets, in this case: Trump's administration and supporters.
There are several cases of people who didn't die from coronavirus, but they were counted as if they did on the statistics. On the other hand, at strict shady countries where free of speech is limited or masked by authorities, the number os deaths is underestimated, as there isn't transparency, then it causes a false impression some countries are being very effective combating coronavirus, while others are being disastrous.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on July 20, 2020, 05:49:01 AM
Making your face mask is fun. :D

https://metro.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/PRC_145057989.jpg?quality=90&strip=all (https://metro.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/PRC_145057989.jpg?quality=90&strip=all)

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Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: btc_love on July 20, 2020, 01:37:22 PM
I am glad that wearing masks is not necessary in my country (or at least no one cares and no one takes this virus seriously)


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: tvbcof on July 20, 2020, 01:54:15 PM
I am glad that wearing masks is not necessary in my country (or at least no one cares and no one takes this virus seriously)

What country is that?  Maybe I need to have a place there.



Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Naida_BR on July 20, 2020, 05:53:56 PM
It is so sad that the government has decided to impose a law that everyone that goes to the super markets need to wear masks.
In all other places you are not obliged to do so.
I wonder why they did that in the super markets? Maybe in order to increase the sales of Facemasks? Who knows...


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: bryant.coleman on July 20, 2020, 07:50:39 PM
^^^ but you can find other studies that say masks don't prevent virus transfer. Consider Ben Swann, for example - Why Face Masks DON'T Work, According To SCIENCE - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8upEg-bEJ8.

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Previously I had disagreed with you regarding vaccination. And this time also, I need to disagree with you.

Virus is an extremely minute organism, and even the highest quality mask may not be able to prevent it from entering your body. But that said, you need to understand how the COVID 19 virus spreads. It spreads when an infected person sneezes, or coughs. There is a study by Japanese scientists and you can refer that one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBvFkQizTT4&feature=emb_title

As from this study, the virus is present in the micro-droplets which are released by an infected person. The role of the mask here is to prevent these droplets from entering the body of a healthy person. And I believe that surgical masks and N95 masks do a good job in this case.

For me, it is clear that wearing a mask can drastically reduce the chances of getting an infection. But I can agree with you if you want to say that masks doesn't guarantee 100% protection from COVID 19.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Smartvirus on July 20, 2020, 10:56:55 PM
Facemask are advocated to be worn mainly in public places hence, it might not serve much in filtration but it discourages taking through which contaminants can be freely introduced into the environment.
Undoubtedly, it has certain adverse effect when the proper face mask isn't sort out for and used in guidelines with health safety measures.
Facemask cannot only prevent the pandemic but also assist in it's spread if not used carefully. The coronavirus is known to persist on inanimate things not excluding the so called face mask hence, it can harbor the virus.
Corona virus attacks the respiratory track hence, extensive use of facemask can result in suffocation and more.
Eat healthy food, choose safe practices and choose life.
Stay safe.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Twinkledoe on July 20, 2020, 11:03:37 PM
Facemask are advocated to be worn mainly in public places hence, it might not serve much in filtration but it discourages taking through which contaminants can be freely introduced into the environment.
Undoubtedly, it has certain adverse effect when the proper face mask isn't sort out for and used in guidelines with health safety measures.
Facemask cannot only prevent the pandemic but also assist in it's spread if not used carefully. The coronavirus is known to persist on inanimate things not excluding the so called face mask hence, it can harbor the virus.
Corona virus attacks the respiratory track hence, extensive use of facemask can result in suffocation and more.
Eat healthy food, choose safe practices and choose life.
Stay safe.

The problem with this is that there are countries that are really strict about wearing face mask and they arrest for not wearing one. But the problem is, they don't care what kind of face mask you are using as long as there is something on top of your face. They really don't care about the importance of which face mask should you use but they are more on who are not using any type of face mask.  ::) ::) ::)


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: radjie on July 21, 2020, 03:17:29 AM
if some people wear masks made of material that are applied from rubber or plastic such as medical teams to prevent the spread of viruses or ward off viruses that will enter the body, then the possibility of people not wearing masks will be more worried if they are close to people who wear masks, they will feel uncomfortable because the view of people wearing masks will be considered as a medical team that always interacts directly with Covid-19 sufferers, therefore I think cloth masks are also sufficient to minimize the prevention of viruses that will enter the mouth and nose and can even applied with ordinary glasses that many people use


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: tvbcof on July 21, 2020, 05:15:15 AM

It occurred to me last night that it is very common to implement social change by enlisting local peoples into organized groups to do certain thing which are not always appreciated by the local populace or universally looked at by the local populace as wholesome.  Examples would include:

 - the Bolsheviks at the start of the Soviet era in Russia,

 - the 'Brownshirts' at the start of the Nazi era in Germany,

 - the Irgun which did some of the early and most severe ethnic cleansing in Palestine.

 - the various 'right wing death squads' in Central and South America in my time.

The list is long.  As a matter of fact, there may not be almost any totalitarian takeover which did NOT involve locally organized paramilitary elements of one magnitude or another.

Probably one of the forces countering the formation of such groups and dampening of their methods would be peer pressure.  In a local environment most everybody knows most everyone else.  While Bobby, who played guard on the high school varsity basketball team, might be convinced to go out and kill palastinian kid with the proper kind of indoctrination, it would take a lot more pressure to get him to do it when all his friends and family would know.

It could be that the 'mandate' for 'masks everywhere' is, more than anything else, mostly about fostering the perception of anonymity between individuals at a local level so that certain future operations will face less pushback when the time is right to roll them out.

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Whatever the case, it's been abundantly clear that masks have nothing to do with health except perhaps to make people more prone to being sick and stupid for lack of oxygen.



Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Shimmiry on July 21, 2020, 06:38:40 AM
It is ridiculous for someone not to wear any face mask because most doctors and medical experts require and recommend to wear face masks whenever you go outside or public places to prevent getting infected from the coronavirus. But you should be careful with the facemasks that you buy in groceries and online stores because there are facemasks that aren't safe and completely useless that will not protect you.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: panganib999 on July 21, 2020, 01:58:44 PM
This was really a good information to be shared to many people. But since many have been using it ever since the pandemic have started and the government as well as health care practitioners are also advising everyone to wear one, the mentality would be it is essential to wear one. Everyone is just taking good care of themselves and this is just a one way step to somehow lessen the panic and spread of virus according to experts. We still do not have anything to do since there is still no vaccine discovered to stop this infectious disease. We cannot blame people to believe that masks is a tool or barrier for them to keep safe.

Also, there are certain protocols that are needed to be followed on going outside which includes wearing mask so we cannot completely discourage people for purchasing and using masks since many are just relying the information from the experts and what they say to be the good for many will be surely followed. Wearing mask at this point of time is the most essential thing to do since we are facing a communicable disease. It is just a way for us to keep ourselves equip. Although it is not really an assurance, well at least it somehow lessen the tension on the people's panic and it is said to be proven to keep oneself away from getting the virus. Also, not just that, wearing mask and sanitation is just a step, keeping yourself healthy is also one thing needed to be considered and of course the hope that the vaccine will soon to be discovered to totally end this pandemic.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: madnessteat on July 21, 2020, 02:55:19 PM
~snip~

I would recommend that you take a closer look at which masks can protect the airway from coronavirus. The use of surgical masks only protects the people around you. I recommend wearing only masks or respirators of ffp2, ffp3 or n95 class.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on July 21, 2020, 10:26:42 PM
Masks won't make any difference, because the so-called Covid is simply the common cold. People are dying of something else. The Covid story is a lie.

Make your own, cheap mask. Get a pair of woman's nylons. That way you have two in case you get a run in one of them.

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/44/3c/c2/443cc20888ac574f32f551c74aed31cb.jpg (https://i.pinimg.com/originals/44/3c/c2/443cc20888ac574f32f551c74aed31cb.jpg)

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Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: TitanGEL on July 22, 2020, 02:14:53 AM
The Debate over the facemasks are still on, many people says it is not effective and many people also says it is effective. For me it is better to have and wear masks because it is a protection. The surgical masks cannot fully protect us but it can filter the air into 90% so meaning there is 90% chance that we cannot be infected of the coronavirus. For those people who say that facemasks are scam, for sure you will regret it after you became infected because of the covid19.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: tvbcof on July 22, 2020, 05:38:07 AM
The Debate over the facemasks are still on, many people says it is not effective and many people also says it is effective. For me it is better to have and wear masks because it is a protection. The surgical masks cannot fully protect us but it can filter the air into 90% so meaning there is 90% chance that we cannot be infected of the coronavirus. For those people who say that facemasks are scam, for sure you will regret it after you became infected because of the covid19.

As with vaccines, the 'anti-' people really don't care a lot what other people do and are not trying to tell them what they should do.

We will, if asked, usually gladly explain all about why we made the decisions we did for ourselves and our families, and why we choose to trust some 'authorities' and not others, but almost without exception we believe that it's individual choice about how to live their lives.

What we truly resent is for others to tell us what to do.  Again, almost without exception we are completely familiar with what the WHO, CDC, etc are recommending at a given time.  It is not helpful at all to have people share their 'wisdom' gained by learning from these corrupt anti-scientific entities with a clear anti-human agenda.  All it does is confirm to use that we're being abused by brainwashed idiot minions of said corrupt entities.

I and others will 'fight battles' about masks, vaccines, etc at early phases because it is easy to project that in the future 'suggestions' will become 'mandates' and so on.  A certain fraction of people, if exposed to real information and analysis, will be more difficult to brainwash in the psychological operation.  The more people who benefit by such skepticism introduced early on, the less effective will be the goal which the psychopaths seek.

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With respect to 'covid-19', the goal is to get a certain percentage of the peeps injected with the genetic material chosen by Gates and friends.  It is clear the the percentage they want/need is pretty high, but it might not be 100%.  To my horror, it's looking like a huge percentage of people will line up (dutifully wearing their masks and properly 'social distancing') for an injection of his junk.

This is a 'glass half full' when I put on my evil hat because it seems possible that Gates and company might be able to satisfy their needs while leaving some doors open for the tiny fraction of us who don't love and trust him.  It's actually kind of in my personal interest if a large majority of people to obediently and joyfully follow his protocols to the tee because it might be enough to satisfy him and his Fabian Socialist friends for this phase of their operation

Again with my evil hat, a world which mainly complies with the commandments of the Georgia Guidestones might not be half bad.  The only question is whether 'we' could get the upper hand for long enough to get rid of the evil scum to arranged the situation for us.  That is, make them pay for their crimes by sending them to live with their father in the fiery pit.



Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: lovesmayfamilis on July 22, 2020, 08:25:59 AM
~snip~

I would recommend that you take a closer look at which masks can protect the airway from coronavirus. The use of surgical masks only protects the people around you. I recommend wearing only masks or respirators of ffp2, ffp3 or n95 class.

In our country, wearing masks has become like a trend, the quality of masks no longer meets medical requirements. Young people wear masks for fun, it's more like a masquerade. Designers of masks began to make good money on their products.
The second reason for wearing masks is the fear of being fined by the police.
The whole point of wearing masks is lost by many people.  It is very sad that some people do not fully understand the seriousness of the pandemic.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: madnessteat on July 22, 2020, 12:44:49 PM
~snip~

I would recommend that you take a closer look at which masks can protect the airway from coronavirus. The use of surgical masks only protects the people around you. I recommend wearing only masks or respirators of ffp2, ffp3 or n95 class.

In our country, wearing masks has become like a trend, the quality of masks no longer meets medical requirements. Young people wear masks for fun, it's more like a masquerade. Designers of masks began to make good money on their products.
The second reason for wearing masks is the fear of being fined by the police.
The whole point of wearing masks is lost by many people.  It is very sad that some people do not fully understand the seriousness of the pandemic.

You know, by my profession, I've only had to be self-isolated for one week. The rest of the time, I worked like I used to. Since my work is traveling, I thought I was the first candidate for infection. I wore a mask when nobody else in Russia understood it. And when the authorities began to demand that I wear masks, I already realized that if the mask protects me from coronavirus, its constant wearing can cause my lungs no less harm.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on July 22, 2020, 06:04:04 PM
Hello! I do not buy masks, I make them and give them to children and doctors for free.

I'm seriously thinking about making mine out of fiberglass window screen... only one layer thick.

8)

Yes it binds reinforcement with sharpness no problem it seems very smooth. With the advancement of blockchain technology, we began to put the frame supported what we read on the web tons of development is being achieved within the world of technology.

Besides, with window-screen for a mask, there isn't the build-up of CO2 behind the mask. And my own viruses and bacteria pass through easier, so that I am breathing less of them back in. So, I am healthier with this kind of mask.

And I am not really endangering anyone else by breathing viruses out. Even the WHO has said that people who don't have symptoms don't infect other people through the air.

8)


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: lepbagong on July 22, 2020, 11:42:00 PM
~snip~

I would recommend that you take a closer look at which masks can protect the airway from coronavirus. The use of surgical masks only protects the people around you. I recommend wearing only masks or respirators of ffp2, ffp3 or n95 class.

In our country, wearing masks has become like a trend, the quality of masks no longer meets medical requirements. Young people wear masks for fun, it's more like a masquerade. Designers of masks began to make good money on their products.
The second reason for wearing masks is the fear of being fined by the police.
The whole point of wearing masks is lost by many people.  It is very sad that some people do not fully understand the seriousness of the pandemic.

the main problem is trying to do the best possible prevention, but if you can't do it, you have to find another solution so you don't catch it. all must understand that masks that are of medical standard in order to avoid transmission are very rare to obtain, because medical staff are obliged to wear them. so that medical standard masks are certainly very difficult to obtain even if there will be expensive, there are no other alternatives so many are innovating so that at least there is prevention even though it may not be optimal but compared to not doing it at all. so not because they are not concerned with a pandemic because the need also determines everything.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: tvbcof on July 23, 2020, 06:15:27 AM

The psychological impact of mask:

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGHdJQr5VBc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGHdJQr5VBc)

Interesting research from some time ago into things like kids behavior changes during Halloween.  It actually makes a fair amount of sense.  I inherently sensed that there would be something like this going on way at the start of this hoax.



Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Gyfts on July 23, 2020, 06:31:20 AM
The CDC Director released a study recently that said if everyone wore masks, within 4-6 weeks, we essentially could stop coronavirus.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/coronavirus-outbreak-could-be-controlled-in-4-6-weeks-if-everyone-did-this/ar-BB16P9uj

I think it's overly optimistic because it makes the assumption that everyone is using proper mask that creates an adequate seal on the face. I've seen some cheaper masks that do essentially nothing because it loosely covers the face. Other cloth masks that people make at home might tears or rips that decrease their efficiency.

Masks help with respect to reducing respiratory droplets from being expelled into the air, but they aren't the final measure. Seems like people are trying to use masks as a replacement for common sense and good judgement, like not being 2 inches from someone at a protest and screaming at the top of their lungs in a group of 5,000 people.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: lovesmayfamilis on July 23, 2020, 07:29:18 AM
The problem with the spread of the virus is that there is a lot of conflicting information in the media today. And not everyone responds to this correctly and competently. Mask wearing starts in those who have some signs of illness, and many people who feel great are not going to wear a mask. Although today everyone says that asymptomatic patients can spread the virus much more.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: tvbcof on July 23, 2020, 08:11:46 AM
The problem with the spread of the virus is that there is a lot of conflicting information in the media today. And not everyone responds to this correctly and competently. Mask wearing starts in those who have some signs of illness, and many people who feel great are not going to wear a mask. Although today everyone says that asymptomatic patients can spread the virus much more.

Yup.  That's how the common cold works, and 'covid-19' is simply this year's common cold.  Epidemiologically there is nothing unusual 'covid-19' in transmission characteristics, asymptomatic carriers, individuals with innate immunity, mortality characteristics, etc, compared to any other seasonal cold.

The only difference is that 2020 was the scheduled for collapsing the economy and implementing a variety of other social engineering efforts.  'new normal', 'great reset', 'lockstep', etc.  We now know as a result of various research that this planning for these shifts has been going on for many years.

The other main difference is the scientifically fraudulent testing which is _by design_ highly flawed, and the 24/7 fearmongering by the mainstream media.  This is an artifact of the long-term plan to make 2020 an important scheduling point.  Again, the virus itself, if it exists at all, is no different than any other year.  Honest scientists have been warning about this from the start, and now, half a year later, the actual data bears this out.



Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Barnabe on July 23, 2020, 09:30:03 AM
The problem with the spread of the virus is that there is a lot of conflicting information in the media today. And not everyone responds to this correctly and competently. Mask wearing starts in those who have some signs of illness, and many people who feel great are not going to wear a mask. Although today everyone says that asymptomatic patients can spread the virus much more.

Yup.  That's how the common cold works, and 'covid-19' is simply this year's common cold.  Epidemiologically there is nothing unusual 'covid-19' in transmission characteristics, asymptomatic carriers, individuals with innate immunity, mortality characteristics, etc, compared to any other seasonal cold.

The only difference is that 2020 was the scheduled for collapsing the economy and implementing a variety of other social engineering efforts.  'new normal', 'great reset', 'lockstep', etc.  We now know as a result of various research that this planning for these shifts has been going on for many years.

The other main difference is the scientifically fraudulent testing which is _by design_ highly flawed, and the 24/7 fearmongering by the mainstream media.  This is an artifact of the long-term plan to make 2020 an important scheduling point.  Again, the virus itself, if it exists at all, is no different than any other year.  Honest scientists have been warning about this from the start, and now, half a year later, the actual data bears this out.



You could also argue, that the common cold is the common cold that that covid is a new virus that will add up to the existing diseases. There is absolutely no reason to think that the covid will replace the cold, both will only add up.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on July 23, 2020, 01:50:16 PM
The problem with the spread of the virus is that there is a lot of conflicting information in the media today. And not everyone responds to this correctly and competently. Mask wearing starts in those who have some signs of illness, and many people who feel great are not going to wear a mask. Although today everyone says that asymptomatic patients can spread the virus much more.

Yup.  That's how the common cold works, and 'covid-19' is simply this year's common cold.  Epidemiologically there is nothing unusual 'covid-19' in transmission characteristics, asymptomatic carriers, individuals with innate immunity, mortality characteristics, etc, compared to any other seasonal cold.

The only difference is that 2020 was the scheduled for collapsing the economy and implementing a variety of other social engineering efforts.  'new normal', 'great reset', 'lockstep', etc.  We now know as a result of various research that this planning for these shifts has been going on for many years.

The other main difference is the scientifically fraudulent testing which is _by design_ highly flawed, and the 24/7 fearmongering by the mainstream media.  This is an artifact of the long-term plan to make 2020 an important scheduling point.  Again, the virus itself, if it exists at all, is no different than any other year.  Honest scientists have been warning about this from the start, and now, half a year later, the actual data bears this out.



You could also argue, that the common cold is the common cold that that covid is a new virus that will add up to the existing diseases. There is absolutely no reason to think that the covid will replace the cold, both will only add up.

There probably are a few people who die of the common cold. The same way, only a few people die from Covid.

Statistics show that the death rates for everything have not increased more than other years. Right now, Covid death rates are way less than heart disease, cancer, diabetes, driving, and many more. Bloated Covid statistics lies are the fault of the medical and the media.

There are other reasons why the world leaders want a pandemic. Covid was only a convenient method for them to use.

8)


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: bitcoinst on July 23, 2020, 02:35:33 PM
Let not all people understand that masks are almost useless, but it seems to me that everyone should understand things that were obvious from the very beginning.
Such as the fact that masks do not help when wearing them outdoors. Every day I see a lot of people walking down the street wearing masks.
But even more fun I find those who wear masks in their private cars.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: tvbcof on July 23, 2020, 02:47:11 PM
...asymptomatic patients can spread the virus much more.

Yup.  That's how the common cold works, and 'covid-19' is simply this year's common cold.  Epidemiologically there is nothing unusual 'covid-19' in transmission characteristics, asymptomatic carriers, individuals with innate immunity, mortality characteristics, etc, compared to any other seasonal cold.
...

You could also argue, that the common cold is the common cold that that covid is a new virus that will add up to the existing diseases. There is absolutely no reason to think that the covid will replace the cold, both will only add up.

There probably are a few people who die of the common cold. The same way, only a few people die from Covid.
...

Of course.  If you are near the end of your life, anything can put you over the edge.  You'll probably die from something like bacterial pneumonia, but some other more minor thing got the ball rolling.  'They' didn't generally consider the common cold (which everyone gets exposed to and a minority develop an immune response to (aka, 'get sick')) as a 'deadly' thing and normally it didn't make it to the death cert.  That changed when they decided to call this season's cold 'covid-19' and do a bunch of scare-mongering about it for political reasons.

There are other reasons why the world leaders want a pandemic. Covid was only a convenient method for them to use.


I'll bet that a decade ago some clever social engineers figured out that they could take any minor seasonal bug and turn it into a 'pandemic' just by use of the mainstream media and corrupt corp/gov institutions.  My hat is off to 'them' in a way.  That is the kind of perceptive and creative thinking that I cannot help but have some respect for.



Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Naida_BR on July 23, 2020, 05:08:39 PM
Let not all people understand that masks are almost useless, but it seems to me that everyone should understand things that were obvious from the very beginning.
Such as the fact that masks do not help when wearing them outdoors. Every day I see a lot of people walking down the street wearing masks.
But even more fun I find those who wear masks in their private cars.

Maybe they do it in order to get used to it.
If you are not used to wear mask then you will forget wearing in when it is a must like indoor places.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Sutters Mill on July 23, 2020, 05:52:32 PM
I'm skeptical of the actual usefulness of facemasks too but we're being forced to wear them now where I live in most stores. I just bought a pack of 5 bandanas from ebay with elasticated bands for less than $10 so I just wear one round my neck and then pop it over my face if a shop requires me to do so. Much better and more stylish than wearing a mask and they can be washed as well.

https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/H65c80fd81f2c49fdade09c2fb431039cK.jpg_q50.jpg

Let not all people understand that masks are almost useless, but it seems to me that everyone should understand things that were obvious from the very beginning.
Such as the fact that masks do not help when wearing them outdoors. Every day I see a lot of people walking down the street wearing masks.
But even more fun I find those who wear masks in their private cars.

It gives the illusion of safety to some. I've also seen people wearing them in a car when they're by their self. I've also noticed that people actually cross the street to avoid you or give you a four meter wide birth like you have the plague or something. It's crazy. I think I'd pretty much have to sneeze directly into your path or face for you to catch it outside.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: madnessteat on July 23, 2020, 05:56:31 PM
Maybe they do it in order to get used to it.
If you are not used to wear mask then you will forget wearing in when it is a must like indoor places.

Haha. It's about the same as putting on a condom and wearing it so you don't accidentally forget to put it on before sex.  ;D

They simply do not understand or think about the harm they can do to their bodies by wearing a mask when the situation does not require it. I've seen guys in my town several times who move around in their private car wearing a medical mask. And they were the only ones in the car.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: tvbcof on July 23, 2020, 06:17:14 PM
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I've seen guys in my town several times who move around in their private car wearing a medical mask. And they were the only ones in the car.

That's too retarded even for the script of the movie 'Idiocracy'!

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In the country where I am now we've got the following dynamic:

 - The peeps wear masks to confirm and demonstrate their subservience to the local government.

 - The local governments mandate masks in order to confirm and demonstrate their subservience to the national government.

 - The national government mandates masks in order to confirm and demonstrate their subservience to Bill Gates and the international banking cartel (IMF, etc) who they've taken loans from.

I suspect that most (non)sovereign nations where you find a lot of masks are experiencing the same dynamics.



Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: lovesmayfamilis on July 23, 2020, 06:27:03 PM
Maybe they do it in order to get used to it.
If you are not used to wear mask then you will forget wearing in when it is a must like indoor places.

Haha. It's about the same as putting on a condom and wearing it so you don't accidentally forget to put it on before sex.  ;D

They simply do not understand or think about the harm they can do to their bodies by wearing a mask when the situation does not require it. I've seen guys in my town several times who move around in their private car wearing a medical mask. And they were the only ones in the car.

All of this may be funny, but there are even more funny cop antics. In my country, there is still a strict quarantine, medicine has shown itself to be very disgusting. And in connection with all this, the number of infections is growing daily. And the smartest thing that our government could come up with is that masks are worn everywhere. Everywhere, even in the car. We all understand the absurdity of the situation, but we simply do not have enough money to pay regular fines


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Jet Cash on July 23, 2020, 06:43:44 PM
The enforced wearing of monkey face masks is probably more about collecting the fines than about health


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: 3meek on July 23, 2020, 06:46:59 PM
Let not all people understand that masks are almost useless, but it seems to me that everyone should understand things that were obvious from the very beginning.
Such as the fact that masks do not help when wearing them outdoors. Every day I see a lot of people walking down the street wearing masks.
But even more fun I find those who wear masks in their private cars.

When I saw the masked man driving the car, I was surprised too... But one day I realized that these people are private taxi drivers! :D And for them, it's a prerequisite...


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on July 23, 2020, 06:50:47 PM
Let not all people understand that masks are almost useless, but it seems to me that everyone should understand things that were obvious from the very beginning.
Such as the fact that masks do not help when wearing them outdoors. Every day I see a lot of people walking down the street wearing masks.
But even more fun I find those who wear masks in their private cars.

When I saw the masked man driving the car, I was surprised too... But one day I realized that these people are private taxi drivers! :D And for them, it's a prerequisite...

When a person wears a mask, he is oxygen deprived. If he lives in a big city, he is oxygen deprived already, from the smog. I don't want to drive around with some nut that isn't getting enough oxygen to his brain so he can make the right moves in traffic.

8)


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Tash on July 24, 2020, 02:52:14 PM

UK supermarkets refusing to enforce face-mask rules only Germans (Aldi) telling UK people what to do
https://web.archive.org/web/20200724125543/https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/face-masks-rules-supermarkets-refuse-asda-tesco-sainsburys-iceland-aldi-coronavirus-a9635731.html


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on July 25, 2020, 12:56:02 AM
Masks are dangerous. Just don't tell Youtube.


Kids SHOULD Wear Masks ALL DAY! (Not)… (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/287249-2020-07-24-kids-should-wear-masks-all-day-not.htm)



Let's Look At REALITY…

By Kent Heckenlively JD

Science is science, humor is humor, and sometimes a good cigar is just a smoke.

You may or may not know it, but Dr. Judy Mikovits and I have a book coming out on August 11, 2020 (already available on Kindle), called THE CASE AGAINST MASKS: Ten Reasons Mask Use Should be Limited.

The last chapter is about kids and masks.  Not surprisingly, your favorite science writer argued that kids SHOULD NOT wear masks to return to school.

But as I am always a fearless questioner of what I believe, I went out and bought a carbon dioxide monitor to determine how high the carbon dioxide levels would go with just ten simple breaths.

Knowing that YouTube might ban the video if I said what I really think, I use an ingenious method to get my point across.  I hope you enjoy!

Here is the video:


Science Teacher Explains Why Children SHOULD Wear Face Masks When They Return to School
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/S1bc5500tBQ/hqdefault.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEjCPYBEIoBSFryq4qpAxUIARUAAAAAGAElAADIQj0AgKJDeAE=&rs=AOn4CLCrn_yMwIRyyLm1YG_UTPGl3TPjLw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1bc5500tBQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1bc5500tBQ)


8)


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: madnessteat on July 25, 2020, 07:48:04 AM
When I saw the masked man driving the car, I was surprised too... But one day I realized that these people are private taxi drivers! :D And for them, it's a prerequisite...

I've met masked drivers in expensive cars that would be a pity to use in a taxi. So I rule that out. I think it's most likely dementia or lack of information about the dangers of wearing masks.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Barnabe on July 25, 2020, 08:51:48 AM
When I saw the masked man driving the car, I was surprised too... But one day I realized that these people are private taxi drivers! :D And for them, it's a prerequisite...

I've met masked drivers in expensive cars that would be a pity to use in a taxi. So I rule that out. I think it's most likely dementia or lack of information about the dangers of wearing masks.
If some of the claims concerning face-masks and CO2 levels messing with cognitive functions we should be able to see an increase in car accidents. It will be interesting if this really happens.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: 3meek on July 26, 2020, 01:25:00 PM
Let not all people understand that masks are almost useless, but it seems to me that everyone should understand things that were obvious from the very beginning.
Such as the fact that masks do not help when wearing them outdoors. Every day I see a lot of people walking down the street wearing masks.
But even more fun I find those who wear masks in their private cars.

When I saw the masked man driving the car, I was surprised too... But one day I realized that these people are private taxi drivers! :D And for them, it's a prerequisite...

When a person wears a mask, he is oxygen deprived. If he lives in a big city, he is oxygen deprived already, from the smog. I don't want to drive around with some nut that isn't getting enough oxygen to his brain so he can make the right moves in traffic.

8)

To make more money, taxi drivers usually go 12-16 hours a day! That's much worse! That's why I don't think the mask can affect this situation much... ;)

By the way, how about the fact that people have been living for thousands of years in mountains where there is just as little oxygen and nothing bad happens to their health?


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on July 26, 2020, 07:22:10 PM
Let not all people understand that masks are almost useless, but it seems to me that everyone should understand things that were obvious from the very beginning.
Such as the fact that masks do not help when wearing them outdoors. Every day I see a lot of people walking down the street wearing masks.
But even more fun I find those who wear masks in their private cars.

When I saw the masked man driving the car, I was surprised too... But one day I realized that these people are private taxi drivers! :D And for them, it's a prerequisite...

When a person wears a mask, he is oxygen deprived. If he lives in a big city, he is oxygen deprived already, from the smog. I don't want to drive around with some nut that isn't getting enough oxygen to his brain so he can make the right moves in traffic.

8)

To make more money, taxi drivers usually go 12-16 hours a day! That's much worse! That's why I don't think the mask can affect this situation much... ;)

By the way, how about the fact that people have been living for thousands of years in mountains where there is just as little oxygen and nothing bad happens to their health?

People can acclimate to all kinds of things... over time. You don't just take a taxi driver, stick him in the heights of the Andes, and expect him to be able to do his job well. He needs time to get used to it... as much as two years. But here's the funny part.

The people in the hospitals that they were placing on ventilators, had symptoms of altitude sickness. So, they put them under, and stuck them on an unnatural thing... the ventilator, while in an induced coma. Many of them died. All they needed was a little more oxygen, like Everest climbers.

8)


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: tvbcof on July 27, 2020, 04:28:15 AM
...
The people in the hospitals that they were placing on ventilators, had symptoms of altitude sickness. So, they put them under, and stuck them on an unnatural thing... the ventilator, while in an induced coma. Many of them died. All they needed was a little more oxygen, like Everest climbers.

At Elmhurst the nurses routed the tubes outside of the hospital room so they didn't have to watch them die (which all peeps put on respirators did except the guy who was a drug addict and had the ability to break out if his drug induced coma, pull out the tubes, and thus save himself.)

Elmhurst got a cool $40k+ for each victim they killed in this manner.  'Socialized Allopathic Health Care System' FTW!  Brought to New York by their beloved mayor Cuomo.



Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on July 27, 2020, 10:44:41 AM
...
The people in the hospitals that they were placing on ventilators, had symptoms of altitude sickness. So, they put them under, and stuck them on an unnatural thing... the ventilator, while in an induced coma. Many of them died. All they needed was a little more oxygen, like Everest climbers.

At Elmhurst the nurses routed the tubes outside of the hospital room so they didn't have to watch them die (which all peeps put on respirators did except the guy who was a drug addict and had the ability to break out if his drug induced coma, pull out the tubes, and thus save himself.)

Elmhurst got a cool $40k+ for each victim they killed in this manner.  'Socialized Allopathic Health Care System' FTW!  Brought to New York by their beloved mayor Cuomo.



Not only that, but dead people don't need to get as many government, welfare-like payments as sick, living people do.

8)


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Jet Cash on July 27, 2020, 10:52:44 AM
This facemask is rubbish. It seems to direct my breath up towards my eyes, and thus if I was exhaling virus particles, I would be spreading them to a different infection centre in my body. It is a good job I've got natural immunity because I haven't been vaccinated for over 50 years. :)

and before anybody makes any trivial comments, I have experimented with different positions for the mask. The only one that seems to improve things is if I don't cover my nose.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: lovesmayfamilis on July 27, 2020, 03:06:52 PM
 I recently read somewhere that American scientists have found the primary cure for coronavirus. So what is this?  Mask. ;D It is clear that wearing one mask for 36 days will naturally become an infection. It is necessary to adhere to the rules of wearing masks, change them regularly, then it will be useful. And to call wearing masks dementia, as they say, time will tell. At least among those people who do not wear masks, there are many cases of infection.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Jet Cash on July 27, 2020, 03:13:45 PM
At least among those people who do not wear masks, there are many cases of infection.

Don't you mean immunity?


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: lovesmayfamilis on July 27, 2020, 06:22:44 PM
At least among those people who do not wear masks, there are many cases of infection.

Don't you mean immunity?

You and I live in different countries, perhaps in England people who walk without masks, have strong immunity and do not get infected. But I live in another country, everything is possible here. If a lot of people gather at some event, and there is a COVID-patient among them, then as a result, many people become infected, especially those who did not observe safety, did not keep a distance and did not wear masks.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on July 27, 2020, 10:02:46 PM
At least among those people who do not wear masks, there are many cases of infection.

Don't you mean immunity?

You and I live in different countries, perhaps in England people who walk without masks, have strong immunity and do not get infected. But I live in another country, everything is possible here. If a lot of people gather at some event, and there is a COVID-patient among them, then as a result, many people become infected, especially those who did not observe safety, did not keep a distance and did not wear masks.

Watch the video at this website. It has all kinds info that isn't directly applicable to masks. But it shows that people don't infect other people who are generally healthy - https://stoplookthink.com/exosome-theory-vs-virus-theory/.

Google "The W.H.O. on masks" to see that the world Health Organization jumps back and forth on the idea of masks.

8)


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Darkoth89 on July 28, 2020, 02:31:13 PM
To the self-proclaimed experts BADecker, Tash et al. (and because I know you like simple Youtube videos):

https://youtu.be/9jfPdZMMF5U?t=6

You should probably do less debating and more -turbating  ::) Maybe you'd post less bull**** then.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: bitzizzix on July 28, 2020, 05:43:52 PM
At least among those people who do not wear masks, there are many cases of infection.

Don't you mean immunity?

You and I live in different countries, perhaps in England people who walk without masks, have strong immunity and do not get infected. But I live in another country, everything is possible here. If a lot of people gather at some event, and there is a COVID-patient among them, then as a result, many people become infected, especially those who did not observe safety, did not keep a distance and did not wear masks.
Maintaining the body's immunity against the current situation is very important and to prevent covid-19 infections, and to keep your distance and follow health protocols that have been determined by the government and all that to prevent it, especially wearing a mask because it will protect sensitive parts, which are easy infected.
It must be realized that the majority of infected people do not know it or realize it and everything looks normal before it gets worse, it is better to do prevention than to become infected and sorry.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Tash on July 28, 2020, 06:02:00 PM
At least among those people who do not wear masks, there are many cases of infection.

Don't you mean immunity?

You and I live in different countries, perhaps in England people who walk without masks, have strong immunity and do not get infected. But I live in another country, everything is possible here. If a lot of people gather at some event, and there is a COVID-patient among them, then as a result, many people become infected, especially those who did not observe safety, did not keep a distance and did not wear masks.
Maintaining the body's immunity against the current situation is very important and to prevent covid-19 infections, and to keep your distance and follow health protocols that have been determined by the government and all that to prevent it, especially wearing a mask because it will protect sensitive parts, which are easy infected.
It must be realized that the majority of infected people do not know it or realize it and everything looks normal before it gets worse, it is better to do prevention than to become infected and sorry.



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wearing a mask
Wearing a mask for a longer period will certainly lead to respiratory acidosis.
sensitive parts? No, humans don't, under any circumstances will get the testicles infected, persons maybe, you seem proof of it.

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majority of infected peopl
You must be one of those infected people, at least you have some kind of infection.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: lovesmayfamilis on July 28, 2020, 06:19:45 PM
At least among those people who do not wear masks, there are many cases of infection.

Don't you mean immunity?

You and I live in different countries, perhaps in England people who walk without masks, have strong immunity and do not get infected. But I live in another country, everything is possible here. If a lot of people gather at some event, and there is a COVID-patient among them, then as a result, many people become infected, especially those who did not observe safety, did not keep a distance and did not wear masks.
Maintaining the body's immunity against the current situation is very important and to prevent covid-19 infections, and to keep your distance and follow health protocols that have been determined by the government and all that to prevent it, especially wearing a mask because it will protect sensitive parts, which are easy infected.
It must be realized that the majority of infected people do not know it or realize it and everything looks normal before it gets worse, it is better to do prevention than to become infected and sorry.

Finally, I hear the voice of reason. The mask should not be worn for the entire 24 hours. It is enough to be careful in contact with people. Tell me why to wear a mask if the person is alone and there is no one next to him? The common flu is also contagious, and for the flu, wearing masks is recommended. If someone has no symptoms, but they are carriers of the disease, and deny wearing masks, can't such people be called selfish?
Indeed, one day from such egoists, your families may also suffer.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on July 28, 2020, 09:02:11 PM
The only way a person is protected by using a mask, is by believing he is protected... placebo effect. Otherwise, masks harm the wearers by bacterial buildups inside the masks, and by high CO2 content within the masks.

All that masks might do is slow down the virus a little. Everybody is going to get Covid sooner or later. Why drag this thing out, and destroy our economy in the process? Get rid of the masks, and get on with life.

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Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: lovesmayfamilis on July 29, 2020, 07:37:13 AM
Everybody is going to get Covid sooner or later.

In other words, take off your mask, go quickly into the crowd and get infected? As you said, it is clear that sooner or later everyone will get sick, so there is no point in wearing masks. Does this mean that we should kick our elderly parents out into the street so that they get infected faster? Since only the young shine with health and the elderly must die? The law of nature survives the fittest.
This is absurd to me. I believe in the creation of a vaccine, and until then, all normal and thinking people should take care of themselves and their loved ones.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on July 29, 2020, 03:35:46 PM
Everybody is going to get Covid sooner or later.

In other words, take off your mask, go quickly into the crowd and get infected? As you said, it is clear that sooner or later everyone will get sick, so there is no point in wearing masks. Does this mean that we should kick our elderly parents out into the street so that they get infected faster? Since only the young shine with health and the elderly must die? The law of nature survives the fittest.
This is absurd to me. I believe in the creation of a vaccine, and until then, all normal and thinking people should take care of themselves and their loved ones.

It's only absurd to you because you don't realize that Covid exists in at least 50% of the people, and almost all of them have had no symptoms. Or they have gotten over the sickness.

If you are sick - with anything - quarantine a little, so you don't infect others. But if you aren't sick, or if you have gotten over your sickness (14 or more days ago), get on with life, so we don't destroy the economy and our standard of living.

If you like the idea of kicking your elderly parents out into the streets, you are criminally insane.

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Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Jet Cash on July 29, 2020, 04:03:32 PM
In fact it is probably more than 50%. I understand that the memory "T" cells that many of us created in the 2002/3 SARS epidemic give us protection from this virus. This could explain why so few people are having problems with the virus, despite its agility in spreading.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on July 29, 2020, 04:28:06 PM
In fact it is probably more than 50%. I understand that the memory "T" cells that many of us created in the 2002/3 SARS epidemic give us protection from this virus. This could explain why so few people are having problems with the virus, despite its agility in spreading.

But how can so many down-to-earth good business people believe something like a Covid pandemic... with only media information?

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Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on July 31, 2020, 06:05:03 PM
Masks don't work. https://altcensored.com/watch?v=xKHq1ixEYhQ

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Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Lordhermes on July 31, 2020, 09:17:52 PM
Some people suffering in face mask, can't even breath in it, causing suffocation and hard breath even leading to death. Is that how to protect it?  I don't think this is a good idea as its contacts through droplets not aerosols, face mask is nonsense and here in my territory, failure to put it on pays a fine of high dollar, what nonsense, simple put, the easiest way is staying safe, indoor for richers but bad for poorers as their is not enough food for them, the system isn't balance for all citizens.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on July 31, 2020, 11:58:08 PM
To the self-proclaimed experts BADecker, Tash et al. (and because I know you like simple Youtube videos):

https://youtu.be/9jfPdZMMF5U?t=6

You should probably do less debating and more -turbating  ::) Maybe you'd post less bull**** then.

For a moment I thought you were serious. But for those who are serious, there are loads of talks done by professionals right here https://www.bitchute.com/channel/okiFK5CwQrZS/ that show that the whole Coronavirus issue is a scam.

There are many other places to look. You could look at https://www.icandecide.org/ to see that these guys are not joking around, and are whupping the CDC in court... plus a whole lot more stuff.

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Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: KnightElite on August 01, 2020, 07:55:41 AM
The only way a person is protected by using a mask, is by believing he is protected... placebo effect. Otherwise, masks harm the wearers by bacterial buildups inside the masks, and by high CO2 content within the masks.

All that masks might do is slow down the virus a little. Everybody is going to get Covid sooner or later. Why drag this thing out, and destroy our economy in the process? Get rid of the masks, and get on with life.

8)
Are you really sure that everyone will get sick and infected because of the virus? Sorry to say but I  think this kind of mindset is the reason why there are still a lot of people who becoming infected and get sick because of the virus. The virus can be contained and managed to not get spread if there will be a good health protocol.  Look at the some countries around the world like Vietnam,  China,  hongkong and New Zealand where the lives of the people are now in the normal because their citizens know the benefits of following the rules and it is by wearing facemasks and having social distancing especially in crowded places.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on August 01, 2020, 11:58:24 AM
The only way a person is protected by using a mask, is by believing he is protected... placebo effect. Otherwise, masks harm the wearers by bacterial buildups inside the masks, and by high CO2 content within the masks.

All that masks might do is slow down the virus a little. Everybody is going to get Covid sooner or later. Why drag this thing out, and destroy our economy in the process? Get rid of the masks, and get on with life.

8)
Are you really sure that everyone will get sick and infected because of the virus? Sorry to say but I  think this kind of mindset is the reason why there are still a lot of people who becoming infected and get sick because of the virus. The virus can be contained and managed to not get spread if there will be a good health protocol.  Look at the some countries around the world like Vietnam,  China,  hongkong and New Zealand where the lives of the people are now in the normal because their citizens know the benefits of following the rules and it is by wearing facemasks and having social distancing especially in crowded places.

You are missing it. There are millions of viruses and bacteria. There are thousands of sick people all over the place. Some people supposedly get sick from them, but others don't. Yet both, the sick people and the well people, have the viruses and bacteria in them, to at least a small extent.

The mask is a facade. It's a fake thing that makes people feel good. And how a person feels controls the way he lives his life... at least to a great extent.

People have or will get the virus. Some people will get sick, but others won't. Covid is actually a weaker cold virus. It's strength is in the media-talk, and in the masks people wear... not in the virus, itself.

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Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Barnabe on August 01, 2020, 02:52:47 PM
The only way a person is protected by using a mask, is by believing he is protected... placebo effect. Otherwise, masks harm the wearers by bacterial buildups inside the masks, and by high CO2 content within the masks.

All that masks might do is slow down the virus a little. Everybody is going to get Covid sooner or later. Why drag this thing out, and destroy our economy in the process? Get rid of the masks, and get on with life.

8)
Are you really sure that everyone will get sick and infected because of the virus? Sorry to say but I  think this kind of mindset is the reason why there are still a lot of people who becoming infected and get sick because of the virus. The virus can be contained and managed to not get spread if there will be a good health protocol.  Look at the some countries around the world like Vietnam,  China,  hongkong and New Zealand where the lives of the people are now in the normal because their citizens know the benefits of following the rules and it is by wearing facemasks and having social distancing especially in crowded places.

You are missing it. There are millions of viruses and bacteria. There are thousands of sick people all over the place. Some people supposedly get sick from them, but others don't. Yet both, the sick people and the well people, have the viruses and bacteria in them, to at least a small extent.

The mask is a facade. It's a fake thing that makes people feel good. And how a person feels controls the way he lives his life... at least to a great extent.

People have or will get the virus. Some people will get sick, but others won't. Covid is actually a weaker cold virus. It's strength is in the media-talk, and in the masks people wear... not in the virus, itself.

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If it's weaker why does it cause more deaths than the cold ?


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on August 01, 2020, 05:01:53 PM
The only way a person is protected by using a mask, is by believing he is protected... placebo effect. Otherwise, masks harm the wearers by bacterial buildups inside the masks, and by high CO2 content within the masks.

All that masks might do is slow down the virus a little. Everybody is going to get Covid sooner or later. Why drag this thing out, and destroy our economy in the process? Get rid of the masks, and get on with life.

8)
Are you really sure that everyone will get sick and infected because of the virus? Sorry to say but I  think this kind of mindset is the reason why there are still a lot of people who becoming infected and get sick because of the virus. The virus can be contained and managed to not get spread if there will be a good health protocol.  Look at the some countries around the world like Vietnam,  China,  hongkong and New Zealand where the lives of the people are now in the normal because their citizens know the benefits of following the rules and it is by wearing facemasks and having social distancing especially in crowded places.

You are missing it. There are millions of viruses and bacteria. There are thousands of sick people all over the place. Some people supposedly get sick from them, but others don't. Yet both, the sick people and the well people, have the viruses and bacteria in them, to at least a small extent.

The mask is a facade. It's a fake thing that makes people feel good. And how a person feels controls the way he lives his life... at least to a great extent.

People have or will get the virus. Some people will get sick, but others won't. Covid is actually a weaker cold virus. It's strength is in the media-talk, and in the masks people wear... not in the virus, itself.

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If it's weaker why does it cause more deaths than the cold ?

It doesn't. The idea that it does is hearsay by the media and others who want you to believe a lie. The lie is big. Study this post in detail, to see how big the lie is - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5265905.msg54914793#msg54914793.

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Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Darkoth89 on August 01, 2020, 05:08:28 PM

It doesn't. The idea that it does is hearsay by the media and others who want you to believe a lie. The lie is big. Study this post in detail, to see how big the lie is - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5265905.msg54914793#msg54914793.

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Yeah right, the freakin' bullshit that you "researched" from all different shady sources and posted here on BTT is proof enough. Everything else is just 'hearsay'. I get it.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on August 01, 2020, 05:14:24 PM
Please use the proper mask.

The question is, what's proper? And what are you using it for? Walmart lets you go in with a Spiderman mask if you want.

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Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Jet Cash on August 01, 2020, 05:23:43 PM
I have real problems understanding why people think that re-breathing the disease and toxins that your body expels through your breath is some sort of health benefit.

I've also yet to find any reports that detail any deaths that come solely from the virus.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on August 01, 2020, 05:36:02 PM
I have real problems understanding why people think that re-breathing the disease and toxins that your body expels through your breath is some sort of health benefit.

I've also yet to find any reports that detail any deaths that come solely from the virus.

I think it has to do with people walking around in life with all kinds of doubts. Notice how short of a time it took for everybody to lock down without any real evidence that life was any different.

When a person is hungry, he goes out and gets a job so that he has enough money to buy food. In other words, people do something about their problems, even when the problems don't really exist.

The mask makes people feel comfortable that they are doing something about their Covid problem.

People never checked into the facts of Covid. People never checked into the facts of masks. They simply did what they felt was the best thing to take care of a problem.

Maybe this will all backfire on the medical, since the medical is responsible for millions of deaths from many causes every year. When people wake up to the Covid scam, and the medical death count, they might stop going to the doctor for anything.

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Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Darkoth89 on August 01, 2020, 05:38:50 PM
I have real problems understanding why people think that re-breathing the disease and toxins that your body expels through your breath is some sort of health benefit.

Maybe, just maybe it's that you don't spread "the disease and toxins that your body expels through your breath"  ::) But yeah, I see that's hard to understand when your whole world is focused just on you and you don't care about the people around you.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: bitzizzix on August 01, 2020, 05:39:59 PM
Facial masks only make me confused because many people reprimand me on the street or anywhere and I don't recognize them because they wear face masks.
and face masks only prevent the virus from being inhaled by the nose or mouth which is not necessarily accurate to ward off the virus, and in my opinion all diseases and viruses will depend on the body's immunity especially sports and healthy living that will be spared from disease or viruses.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Jet Cash on August 01, 2020, 05:51:59 PM

Maybe, just maybe it's that you don't spread "the disease and toxins that your body expels through your breath"  ::) But yeah, I see that's hard to understand when your whole world is focused just on you and you don't care about the people around you.

I think I care more about the population than the monkey face mask wearers. I care that cancer and heart disease patients can't get treatment because the MFMs are prolonging their recovery process. I can about all of the people who are dying because of the stupid lockdown, and the destruction of their employment. I care about the money that is being sent to the evil merchants of death, and isn't being spent on the national infrastructure. I care about the kids who aren't getting a proper education. I care that people are being  forced to buy ultra-processed foods to further reduce their immunity strength.

Do you want me to go on?


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Darkoth89 on August 01, 2020, 06:34:08 PM

Maybe, just maybe it's that you don't spread "the disease and toxins that your body expels through your breath"  ::) But yeah, I see that's hard to understand when your whole world is focused just on you and you don't care about the people around you.

I think I care more about the population than the monkey face mask wearers. I care that cancer and heart disease patients can't get treatment because the MFMs are prolonging their recovery process. I can about all of the people who are dying because of the stupid lockdown, and the destruction of their employment. I care about the money that is being sent to the evil merchants of death, and isn't being spent on the national infrastructure. I care about the kids who aren't getting a proper education. I care that people are being  forced to buy ultra-processed foods to further reduce their immunity strength.

Do you want me to go on?

So you want the hospitals to overflow with new Covid cases? Who's gonna have capacity for cancer patients and other patients who need live saving surgeries? How does wearing a mask destroy any job? Quite the opposite ... it safes jobs because people could start to work earlier when they are cautious. How does wearing a mask have anything to do with how public money is/isn't spend on infrastructure? And again, how does wearing a mask stops kids from getting proper education? Masks could help to open up the schools earlier! And how does wearing a mask effect what kind of junk food people are eating?!

Do you want me to go on?

Your arguments make no sense. I think you are mixing up the lockdown with wearing a mask. If people would wear a mask, wouldn't gather in large groups and would try to keep their distance, the whole thing wouldn't spread that fast. We all agree that we have to prevent another / a longer lookdown because that a) would be economically a disaster b) the social isolation can be horrible for people c) will make a lot of more people lose their jobs. But why can't you see that wearing a mask can help here?


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Jet Cash on August 01, 2020, 06:43:01 PM
I want it to spread fast so that we can all  get immunity


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on August 01, 2020, 07:06:54 PM

Maybe, just maybe it's that you don't spread "the disease and toxins that your body expels through your breath"  ::) But yeah, I see that's hard to understand when your whole world is focused just on you and you don't care about the people around you.

I think I care more about the population than the monkey face mask wearers. I care that cancer and heart disease patients can't get treatment because the MFMs are prolonging their recovery process. I can about all of the people who are dying because of the stupid lockdown, and the destruction of their employment. I care about the money that is being sent to the evil merchants of death, and isn't being spent on the national infrastructure. I care about the kids who aren't getting a proper education. I care that people are being  forced to buy ultra-processed foods to further reduce their immunity strength.

Do you want me to go on?

So you want the hospitals to overflow with new Covid cases? Who's gonna have capacity for cancer patients and other patients who need live saving surgeries? How does wearing a mask destroy any job? Quite the opposite ... it safes jobs because people could start to work earlier when they are cautious. How does wearing a mask have anything to do with how public money is/isn't spend on infrastructure? And again, how does wearing a mask stops kids from getting proper education? Masks could help to open up the schools earlier! And how does wearing a mask effect what kind of junk food people are eating?!

Do you want me to go on?

Your arguments make no sense. I think you are mixing up the lockdown with wearing a mask. If people would wear a mask, wouldn't gather in large groups and would try to keep their distance, the whole thing wouldn't spread that fast. We all agree that we have to prevent another / a longer lookdown because that a) would be economically a disaster b) the social isolation can be horrible for people c) will make a lot of more people lose their jobs. But why can't you see that wearing a mask can help here?


Go on here, and do some real searching on the scientific studies about masks. Science shows that:
1. Masks do little virus good, even when professionals wear and use them properly;
2. When average people wear them, viruses go right through;
3. Masks are dangerous for the wearers from the spread of bacteria inside the masks, and from CO2;
4. Masks cause a breakdown of family togetherness, that should spread among people;
5. If masks happen to slow the pandemic a little, all they are doing is causing longer economic shutdowns so that the economy fails in a greater way than it has already.

Science is against the use of masks.

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Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Darkoth89 on August 01, 2020, 07:14:50 PM

Go on here, and do some real searching on the scientific studies about masks. Science shows that:
1. Masks do little virus good, even when professionals wear and use them properly;
2. When average people wear them, viruses go right through;
3. Masks are dangerous for the wearers from the spread of bacteria inside the masks, and from CO2;
4. Masks cause a breakdown of family togetherness, that should spread among people;
5. If masks happen to slow the pandemic a little, all they are doing is causing longer economic shutdowns so that the economy fails in a greater way than it has already.

Science is against the use of masks.

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Post me scientific studies that prove your points. No Youtube videos, scientific papers.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Jet Cash on August 01, 2020, 07:18:28 PM
Google is your friend just search for them



Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Darkoth89 on August 01, 2020, 07:23:12 PM
Google is your friend just search for them


Good argumentation you got there. Can't prove your point yourself so I should do it for you?!



Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Jet Cash on August 01, 2020, 07:55:23 PM
I'm just tired of repeating sources

Observation and rational thought are more use than lying propaganda

I go to a lot of public places and meet a lot of people. I've yet to hear of anybody who has bad confirmation of infection, Other than in the media.

I must be a super spreader of immunity.

If god wanted us to wear masks he wouldn't have invented mucus



Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Darkoth89 on August 01, 2020, 08:17:37 PM
I'm just tired of repeating sources

Observation and rational thought are more use than lying propaganda

I go to a lot of public places and meet a lot of people. I've yet to hear of anybody who has bad confirmation of infection, Other than in the media.

I must be a super spreader of immunity



Totally expected that you couidn't post me any reliable scources (I mean something like this (https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2020836), this (https://gh.bmj.com/content/bmjgh/5/5/e002794.full.pdf) or this (https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0843-2.pdf)). But yeah, it's all lying propaganda, I guess. Impossible to have a normal discussion with you fanatics.



Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Jet Cash on August 01, 2020, 08:42:26 PM
You haven't explained why you believe that reinfecting yourself with expelled virus is good for your health


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Darkoth89 on August 01, 2020, 08:59:02 PM
You haven't explained why you believe that reinfecting yourself with expelled virus is good for your health

How can you "reinfect" yourself? If you have the virus and you exhale it, it doesn't matter when you inhale it again?! Or do you think you get better when all the viruses can safely leave you body (through your mouth e.g.)

And you are yourself talking about a kind of immunity (which sadly might be only temporary but that's a different topic), so what do you think is "reinfecting" :
I want it to spread fast so that we can all  get immunity


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on August 02, 2020, 12:06:52 AM

Go on here, and do some real searching on the scientific studies about masks. Science shows that:
1. Masks do little virus good, even when professionals wear and use them properly;
2. When average people wear them, viruses go right through;
3. Masks are dangerous for the wearers from the spread of bacteria inside the masks, and from CO2;
4. Masks cause a breakdown of family togetherness, that should spread among people;
5. If masks happen to slow the pandemic a little, all they are doing is causing longer economic shutdowns so that the economy fails in a greater way than it has already.

Science is against the use of masks.

8)

Post me scientific studies that prove your points. No Youtube videos, scientific papers.

You are so playful. How many babies are born with masks? How many women have them? If you want to call a man's beard a face mask, maybe men grow them once they are adults.

So, since it's not natural to have a mask, show me the scientific studies that say that masks are a benefit. No Youtube videos, scientific papers.

8)


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Darkoth89 on August 02, 2020, 08:37:23 AM
You are so playful. How many babies are born with masks? How many women have them? If you want to call a man's beard a face mask, maybe men grow them once they are adults.

Discussing with you is like talking to a 5 year old. You are not able to put together a single good argument. How many babies are born with t-Shirts and trousers? How many are born with a helmet? And yet smart adults don't run around naked but wear clothes and put on safety gear when necessary.

So, since it's not natural to have a mask, show me the scientific studies that say that masks are a benefit. No Youtube videos, scientific papers.
8)

If you've read what I've written... I already have:


Totally expected that you couidn't post me any reliable scources (I mean something like this (https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2020836), this (https://gh.bmj.com/content/bmjgh/5/5/e002794.full.pdf) or this (https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0843-2.pdf)). But yeah, it's all lying propaganda, I guess. Impossible to have a normal discussion with you fanatics.



Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on August 02, 2020, 01:30:29 PM
You are so playful. How many babies are born with masks? How many women have them? If you want to call a man's beard a face mask, maybe men grow them once they are adults.

Discussing with you is like talking to a 5 year old. You are not able to put together a single good argument. How many babies are born with t-Shirts and trousers? How many are born with a helmet? And yet smart adults don't run around naked but wear clothes and put on safety gear when necessary.
Lol. I just happen to be one of those 5-y-o prodigies. Too bad you are not able to recognize a good argument. You don't want Youtube or other videos, yet it is the videos where the interviews are done with the professionals who show that masks are dangerous rather than helpful.



So, since it's not natural to have a mask, show me the scientific studies that say that masks are a benefit. No Youtube videos, scientific papers.
8)

If you've read what I've written... I already have:


Totally expected that you couidn't post me any reliable scources (I mean something like this (https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMc2020836), this (https://gh.bmj.com/content/bmjgh/5/5/e002794.full.pdf) or this (https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0843-2.pdf)). But yeah, it's all lying propaganda, I guess. Impossible to have a normal discussion with you fanatics.


I went and looked at your links, briefly. They are nice reports. And this kind of thing is what I am looking for.

You have found these. Can you find the clear reports of the actual methods used to determine that there even is a Covid virus? You know, as franky1 says, the actual process for finding and proving a virus, using Koch's Postulates upgraded by Rivers and Bell?

Perhaps the mask reports are based on true findings that there really is a virus. If you have the true virus findings, not only I and others would be interested, but Dr. Andrew Kaufman would be interested - https://www.andrewkaufmanmd.com/.

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Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Vilagra on August 03, 2020, 03:08:32 PM
I have real problems understanding why people think that re-breathing the disease and toxins that your body expels through your breath is some sort of health benefit.


I have the same opinion. Especially wearing masks in the fresh air is such a non-sense. And... have you noticed how the directions changed over a month? First they said that masks helped only in the way that a person touched his/her face less and gave no protection against the virus. Now they say the fabric can stop virus...


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: tsaroz on August 03, 2020, 04:19:42 PM
Mask is more about not letting other catch your virus than not to contact virus yourself.
There are many asymptomatic or less severe cases that goes unnoticed but they can infect others.
The relative success in containing the virus in East and South East Asia is mostly credited to the strict implementation of mask on public.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on August 03, 2020, 05:49:20 PM
Mask is more about not letting other catch your virus than not to contact virus yourself.
There are many asymptomatic or less severe cases that goes unnoticed but they can infect others.
The relative success in containing the virus in East and South East Asia is mostly credited to the strict implementation of mask on public.



Here's the best one. ;D


https://www.deeperblue.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/A_Full_Face_Mask.jpg (https://www.deeperblue.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/A_Full_Face_Mask.jpg)


But you can check out many others here https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=covid+face+masks&iax=images&ia=images.


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Title: This is Why The Mask Mandate Was Repealed in Orange County, California
Post by: BADecker on August 08, 2020, 10:59:06 AM
Watch the video at the site (or below) to see what the basics are all about (1 minute 5 seconds).

When this kind of thinking is applied to governors and other leaders, the whole pandemic will collapse. Why? Because there is so much mix-up that nobody knows if Covid is actually doing much of anything at all. We can't even tell if the deaths are virus deaths, doctors/hospital mistakes, or simply a juggling of death numbers to make it look like there is a pandemic to the public.

On top of that, there are grave flaws in the ways that the Covid virus has actually been determined to exist. When we get some expert witnesses on the stand, we will find out that proper processes haven't been followed to determine that there is a Covid virus.


This is Why The Mask Mandate Was Repealed in Orange County, California (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/288126-2020-08-07-this-is-why-the-mask-mandate-was-repealed-in-orange.htm)



I was initially going to post some thoughts today on how to deal with raving lunatic mask Nazis but that will have to wait.

 I just became aware of this superb effort by Peggy Hall, who went before Orange County, California Board of Supervisors in an attempt to get the mask mandate repealed in that county.

 Below is what she said before the Board (One minute and 5 seconds)

The mandatory masks order in Orange County was repealed the following day.

Be sure to visit her site. The work she is doing is very important right now.


The healthy American - Peggy Hall - Sup Meeting
https://i.vimeocdn.com/video/926611617.jpg?mw=1100&mh=618
https://player.vimeo.com/video/439602551 (https://player.vimeo.com/video/439602551)


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Title: Re: This is Why The Mask Mandate Was Repealed in Orange County, California
Post by: tvbcof on August 08, 2020, 12:59:48 PM
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I just became aware of this superb effort by Peggy Hall, who went before Orange County, California Board of Supervisors in an attempt to get the mask mandate repealed in that county.
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The healthy American - Peggy Hall - Sup Meeting
https://i.vimeocdn.com/video/926611617.jpg?mw=1100&mh=618
https://player.vimeo.com/video/439602551 (https://player.vimeo.com/video/439602551)


Wow.  That's what I call 'clear and cold'.  I like it!

The lady is dead wrong about who these a-holes on the board of supervisors 'work for' in practice, and very possibly in fact as well although the mechanics behind that legal theory would be shrouded in state secrecy and such-like.  If future adjudicators subscribe to a legal theory based on what is the public consensus of this time, however, these people are in for a whole heap of trouble, and due to people like this lady they have been warned.  If they are not pretty confident that 'their side' is going to come out on top their best bets would be to bow out to 'start spending more time with the family' ASAP.



Title: Re: This is Why The Mask Mandate Was Repealed in Orange County, California
Post by: BADecker on August 08, 2020, 04:07:07 PM
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I just became aware of this superb effort by Peggy Hall, who went before Orange County, California Board of Supervisors in an attempt to get the mask mandate repealed in that county.
...

The healthy American - Peggy Hall - Sup Meeting
https://i.vimeocdn.com/video/926611617.jpg?mw=1100&mh=618
https://player.vimeo.com/video/439602551 (https://player.vimeo.com/video/439602551)


Wow.  That's what I call 'clear and cold'.  I like it!

The lady is dead wrong about who these a-holes on the board of supervisors 'work for' in practice, and very possibly in fact as well although the mechanics behind that legal theory would be shrouded in state secrecy and such-like.  If future adjudicators subscribe to a legal theory based on what is the public consensus of this time, however, these people are in for a whole heap of trouble, and due to people like this lady they have been warned.  If they are not pretty confident that 'their side' is going to come out on top their best bets would be to bow out to 'start spending more time with the family' ASAP.



There is what I believe to be a standing Circuit Court of Alaska ruling that says that if government officials do not change their ways when called to account legally... execution. One of these days I will look it up. I know where to find it.

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Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Jet Cash on August 08, 2020, 04:10:06 PM
There is also a ruling in one state that no official can attend a state function dressed as a penis.. Somebody must have known something about state officials. :)


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on August 08, 2020, 08:29:49 PM
Mask is more about not letting other catch your virus than not to contact virus yourself.
There are many asymptomatic or less severe cases that goes unnoticed but they can infect others.
The relative success in containing the virus in East and South East Asia is mostly credited to the strict implementation of mask on public.


If mask block one way, mask block other way, as well. So all okay if no wear mask. Mask wearers safe. Wear no mask, no care. Maybe die. Who care?

Same with vaccine. You get vaccine, you protected. Why care what I do?

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Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: FIFA worldcup on August 09, 2020, 04:59:09 AM
Mask is more about not letting other catch your virus than not to contact virus yourself.
There are many asymptomatic or less severe cases that goes unnoticed but they can infect others.
The relative success in containing the virus in East and South East Asia is mostly credited to the strict implementation of mask on public.


Mask is for you own security. Remember those who drive motor bikes have to wear the Halmet and those who drive the cars have to wear the seat belt, similarly those who move out of home have to wear a mask. This is how simple is it and we need to accept it as a new safety measure.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on August 09, 2020, 01:56:58 PM
Mask is more about not letting other catch your virus than not to contact virus yourself.
There are many asymptomatic or less severe cases that goes unnoticed but they can infect others.
The relative success in containing the virus in East and South East Asia is mostly credited to the strict implementation of mask on public.


Mask is for you own security. Remember those who drive motor bikes have to wear the Halmet and those who drive the cars have to wear the seat belt, similarly those who move out of home have to wear a mask. This is how simple is it and we need to accept it as a new safety measure.

But it is so difficult washing the bugs out of masks.     ;D


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Mrengage on August 09, 2020, 10:49:30 PM
Edit: I bought a mask, I'm fairly neutral on the topic now but it became law and I'm not of an age where coronavirus should have little affect so it makes sense for others' protection.

if you're going to wear a mask, make sure it has a ridge on it and that you can breathe in and out normally without the mask moving. IF YOU BREATHE IN OR OUT HARD IT SHOULD MOVE SLIGHTLY BUT SHOULD MOULD BACK AND NOT ENTER YOUR MOUTH - IF IT ENTERS YOUR MOUTH AND GETS WET THEN IT'S POINTLESS. I used mjnd continuously for 5 hours and it seemed to have little effect on me.




They won't protect you and you're just adding more waste to the land and water... They also don't cover your eyes which is probably how most infection gets in.

According to healthline (https://www.healthline.com/health-news/how-to-protect-yourself-while-traveling-during-the-coronavirus-outbreak) and many other sources, COVID-19/the novel coronavirus has a diameter of ~120nm while face masks only have a filter up to 300nm. I've been looking through information on facemasks have two main purposes:
1. Industrial: This is where someone is commonly working with small particles that need to be blocked going into their respiratory tract, such as wood workers and the like. Thre is also a use case for these in China for their pollution levels since carbon particulates above 100 micrometers in size are known for increasing the risk of asthma and 300 micrometers are known for producing carcinogens pretty quickly (I hope i got that the right way round).
2. Medical: Contrary to what a lot of people would thiink, the N95 model (I'm told is the most popular in medicine) actually just stops the surgeon/practitioner from projecting salivery deposits onto a patient and aren't actually for reducing the amount of infection spread between the two - probably the reason most doctors actually don't wear these. Quarrentine outfits probably give the doctor a certain amount of time in with a patient before they're changed, or have additional tuping to allow for them to receive air from outside the quarrentine unit (either that or they have more advanced filters, there's probably some fancy electrostatics devices for this sort of thing).

Anyway, your face masks just mean you're improving everyone else's air quality and may mean your immune system starts to become complacent (well if my nose is already covered, I clearly don't have to do anything)...

And the eyes link back with the same tubes as your nose and mouth, hence why when you have strong eye drops, you can taste them in the back of your mouth or when you throw up you feel your eyes burning a little.



IF you're under 35, it's highly unlikely it'll kill you.
If you're over 35 but are still pretty healthy, you shouldn't face much issue with it either. I've known 60&70 year olds to have caught pneumonia and barely noticed it (just got a temperature and shivers). If you worry about it too much or you're not healthy, that's when problems can start to arise and probably the hope with a lot of mainstream media that you will catch something and give a payout to big pharma (I'm looking at you USA)..

When it comes to most part in Africa the government enforce this on masses. Some laws that are been enforced are really not working now shouting down markets saying no gathering but he'll no, on the road side you see market women's hanging around I mean all this is really turning most poor masses more poor.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on August 10, 2020, 01:41:16 AM

When it comes to most part in Africa the government enforce this on masses. Some laws that are been enforced are really not working now shouting down markets saying no gathering but he'll no, on the road side you see market women's hanging around I mean all this is really turning most poor masses more poor.

As long as you are mentioning Africa, remember that the six nations in Africa listed here https://altcensored.com/watch?v=aX_Q1FaY9pI (near the middle of the video) didn't wear masks, but had less than one death per million because of hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) in use throughout their nations.

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Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: tvbcof on August 11, 2020, 09:41:13 AM
Some dental health professionals are suggesting the rise of a new phenomenon they call 'mask mouth' (as a play on 'meth mouth') which the attribute to people being forced to wear masks all day.

The suggestion is that the humid oxygen poor environment contributed to the conditions which will allow unusual kinds of bacteria and fungi to flourish.  The result for the victim is increased rates of tooth decay, gum disease, infectious sores on the lips and mouth, and nasty breath.  Some believe that it is contributing to fungal infections within the lungs as well.

Of course the 'government officials' and mainstream media are saying they have 'no proof' that this is a problem, but there is no way they would possibly say otherwise.

It doesn't seem that 'mask mouth' is as bad as 'meth mouth' yet, but it's pretty early in the game.  Canada, Australia, etc, are claiming that people will need to wear masks for two or three years, and maybe forever as part of the 'new normal'.  How long before all of the idiots who buy this crap end up looking like this:

https://peppertt.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/METH.jpg

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Since I don't want to get shop owners in trouble when I go out I do take a mask along with me, but also am empty paper coffee cup to pretend like I'm drinking it as my excuse for no wearing the fuckin' thing.

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In other mask news, last week I got a hunch that the people in Israel probably know this thing is a hoax so I looked around for some footage.  One extended clip was from a Filipina who happened to be over there.  Sure enough, I watched 5 minutes before I saw a single person actually wearing one over their face (though nearly everyone had one around their necks.)  The few people I did see wearing masks properly looked a lot like tourists.



Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Jet Cash on August 11, 2020, 10:31:31 AM
I saw the ultimate yesterday in the supermarket car park. A guy was wearing a face mask with a hole poked in it, and he was smoking a cigarette through it. I wonder if it caught fire when it got near the end. :)


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: madnessteat on August 11, 2020, 12:32:12 PM
~snip~

The guy probably doesn't wait for the cigarette to burn to the point where the mask would light up.



In general, I began to think more and more that soon this forced imposition of wearing masks will bore people and they will just give up on these measures. 


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on August 11, 2020, 04:01:34 PM
~snip~

The guy probably doesn't wait for the cigarette to burn to the point where the mask would light up.



In general, I began to think more and more that soon this forced imposition of wearing masks will bore people and they will just give up on these measures. 

They don't even question me anymore when I walk into the store without a mask on. But I see a lot more people like me, some who take their masks of once they get in.

https://www.bitchute.com/channel/okiFK5CwQrZS/

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Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Jet Cash on August 11, 2020, 04:06:10 PM
In the cafe today, somebody has stuffed a face mask under a table leg to stop it wobbling. That is the first time I have seen a face mask as useful. :)

Oh that isn't true. I saw a guy cleaning bird droppings off his windscreen with a used face mask.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on August 11, 2020, 04:08:53 PM

I saw a guy cleaning bird droppings off his windscreen with a used face mask.

He probably was protecting himself against the bird flu at the same time. ;D

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Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on August 13, 2020, 01:34:35 AM
In the cafe today, somebody has stuffed a face mask under a table leg to stop it wobbling. That is the first time I have seen a face mask as useful. :)

Oh that isn't true. I saw a guy cleaning bird droppings off his windscreen with a used face mask.
In the beginning people were in panic about the coronavirus, now people are used to it. This is the reason why people use the face mask to clean the windscreen or wobble of the table. By the time there is a person who has invested $1.5million in a facemask. (https://youtu.be/1u4t9JhA03w)

Note that Covid is nothing, and we are finding this out. The masks are designed for something else. It's probably training for the time when we will have to wear particle masks to keep from breathing in radioactive fallout particles after China nukes us.

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Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: lepbagong on August 14, 2020, 07:50:01 AM
I don't understand that there are still many who don't believe in the covid-19 pandemic, even though many people have been infected and died and that's a fact that cannot be hidden. understand that the covid-19 pandemic may not be that fatal compared to other diseases but we have to admit that this pandemic exists and needs to be stopped.

in my country many medical personnel have died because of this pandemic. Meanwhile, medical personnel who use equipment are good enough not to get infected, what about us ordinary people, if we don't follow the prescribed health protocols.

The use of masks does not ensure that we will not be infected but is a precautionary measure, we are given to think and must be used because one of the good things about the Covid-19 pandemic is that we are diligent in washing our hands, not holding our faces before making sure our hands are clean, and of course using masks .

whether masks will be able to resolve transmission, does not guarantee, but we are trying to reduce the impact that will occur, because in the position of residents close to each other the possibility of sneezing and coughing can spread, if we use masks at least there is protection we can do.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Jet Cash on August 14, 2020, 11:08:34 AM
I don't understand that there are still many who don't believe in the covid-19 pandemic, even though many people have been infected and died

Nobody can deny that Covid is a highly infectious virus, but it is a fairly minor health risk, and so far no healthy person has died from it. In fact the Corona virus has been around in some form since the 1930s, and we have lived and thrived despite this, It seems that the 2002/3 SARS virus has given over half of the UK population  immunity from its effects, and this is why we have so few deaths from it despite an exponential increase in infections. Instead of titting around with rubbish restrictions that reduce the build up of immunity, they should be working to create a healthier population by reducing the use of refined sugars and seed oils ( for example ). Banning smoking and damaging pharmaceuticals would be a great help as well.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on August 14, 2020, 04:17:39 PM
One of the most dangerous concerns about the general public, or kids sitting at desks in school, wearing facemasks is, the way we are socially designed within ourselves is being disrupted.

We are social creatures at heart. How can we tell? Just look at all the Facebook users who are there just to socialize with a larger group than they can physically.

The facemask destroys one of the greatest aspects of socializing... the look on our face that we share with those around us.

If you happen to be a shy person, who would rather hide than show your face to anybody, you are one of those who needs socializing the most. You need to know that people love you, and that the looks on their faces are part of the way that you can see the love.

Now that we have had our break from looking at each others' ugly pusses, as well as the smiles, and since the Coronavirus is not all that contageous - have you seen dozens of people falling dead all around you? - let's get back to socializing. Get rid of the masks.

If you don't get rid of the masks, you will become a demoralized human being, just like all those kids who lose friends on Facebook. Get out there and live. And sue your idiot government people if they continue to take your freedom away.

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Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: lepbagong on August 16, 2020, 07:38:58 AM
I don't understand that there are still many who don't believe in the covid-19 pandemic, even though many people have been infected and died

Nobody can deny that Covid is a highly infectious virus, but it is a fairly minor health risk, and so far no healthy person has died from it. In fact the Corona virus has been around in some form since the 1930s, and we have lived and thrived despite this, It seems that the 2002/3 SARS virus has given over half of the UK population  immunity from its effects, and this is why we have so few deaths from it despite an exponential increase in infections. Instead of titting around with rubbish restrictions that reduce the build up of immunity, they should be working to create a healthier population by reducing the use of refined sugars and seed oils ( for example ). Banning smoking and damaging pharmaceuticals would be a great help as well.

but I just want to provide factual information about what happened in my country, and I don't really know what is happening in other countries. there is a pulmonologist who is very young and has no history of any disease, when he contracted coivd-19 he was not helped and died.
can it be said that covid-19 is not dangerous for the healthy? I don't see a correlation with this if the incident happened to a doctor who was fairly young and in very good health.

This is real and cannot be denied and there are many incidents in my country where medical personnel have fallen, even though they are healthy and young. so conclusions cannot be drawn equally for all the criteria that occur.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Mauser on August 16, 2020, 08:46:54 AM

This is real and cannot be denied and there are many incidents in my country where medical personnel have fallen, even though they are healthy and young. so conclusions cannot be drawn equally for all the criteria that occur.


Unfortunately there are so many trolls on the Internet who just like to spread chaos. At this stage with so many infected and dead people from covid 19, I think anyone is aware that it's real. All the people spreading wrong information 9r saying corona virus is a lie know better in their heart, they just prefer to see the world burn. And the Internet is just enabling them to keep spreading their crazy ideas.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: tvbcof on August 16, 2020, 09:18:13 AM
...
but I just want to provide factual information about what happened in my country, and I don't really know what is happening in other countries. there is a pulmonologist who is very young and has no history of any disease, when he contracted coivd-19 he was not helped and died.
...

I'm sure that is what your read in the news and all, but there is no way to know that it is true.  It is clear that entities who have a lot of control of the mainstream corporate owned media such as the WEF wish to create panic, and the media has been caught a number of times faking stuff to try to make the problems seem worse than they are.

Between the obvious desire for fraud and myriad examples of it, the story make no sense.  Why would a pulmonologist be 'no helped'?  Smell like one more in a long list of hoax stories, and a lot of times doctors, or people who claim to be doctors, are involved in perpetrating the hoax.  The medical/industrial system is as a whole losing money in this thing, but some segments such as the 'covid-19' so-called 'front-liners' are demanding and getting a lot of extra resources.  They have reasons to perpetuate the hoax.



Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Jet Cash on August 16, 2020, 09:54:47 AM
You have to be careful about all these claims about people with "no underlying health problems". If you smoke or vape, then you will have health problems. If you allow yourself to be vaccinated, then you will have a compromised immune system. If you use any pharmaceutical products, then you will have messed up some parts of your body. If you have lifestyle problems such as lack of sleep, avoid sunlight, or excess stress, then these can affect your immune system. Dehydration is another problems, as is insulin resistance as a result of a bad diet.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Ayiranorea on August 16, 2020, 12:26:25 PM
I don't understand that there are still many who don't believe in the covid-19 pandemic, even though many people have been infected and died

Nobody can deny that Covid is a highly infectious virus, but it is a fairly minor health risk, and so far no healthy person has died from it. In fact the Corona virus has been around in some form since the 1930s, and we have lived and thrived despite this, It seems that the 2002/3 SARS virus has given over half of the UK population  immunity from its effects, and this is why we have so few deaths from it despite an exponential increase in infections. Instead of titting around with rubbish restrictions that reduce the build up of immunity, they should be working to create a healthier population by reducing the use of refined sugars and seed oils ( for example ). Banning smoking and damaging pharmaceuticals would be a great help as well.
We can't conclude it as a fairly minor health risk. In my country the health ministry has stated, it easily attacks people who already suffer out of health problems. By then people with additional health issues like cardiac problems, kidney problem,  etc were taken care very seriously. By the time young people who hadn't got any of the health issues died. This created panic among the entire population. The government is taking necessary steps, and people who are admitted to the health care centres were provided with Vitamin supplements to enrich the immunity system. As said banning bad activities like smoking could help an better living environment. In my country the government doesn't have the ability to ban cigars, but on every election agenda it carries a statement of banning liquor and smoking.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Tash on August 16, 2020, 03:33:12 PM
I don't understand that there are still many who don't believe in the covid-19 pandemic, even though many people have been infected and died

Instead of titting around with rubbish restrictions that reduce the build up of immunity, they should be working to create a healthier population by reducing the use of refined sugars and seed oils ( for example ). Banning smoking and damaging pharmaceuticals would be a great help as well.

Main issue is most have to acidic nutrition.
30% of daily food should be acid, meat, seafood, bread, rice, noodels, cheese, drinks with CO2 like cola, sparkling water .........
70% of daily food should be alkaline food, all fruits, vegies, herbs, spices....
Wrong mixture is a sick, weak body.
Healthy blood has a ph of 7.45, 5.71% on alkaline side.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Jet Cash on August 16, 2020, 04:39:57 PM
Colas have too much sugar, and contribute to insuling resistance.
Modern bread is deficient in minerals and nutrients. Sourdough is the best - fermentation helps a lot with digestion.
If you have acid reflusx then sodium bicarb is a great help, and sometimes I add a pinch to a cup of coffee.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: SquirrelJulietGarden on August 16, 2020, 04:47:41 PM
There are two directions to go end the pandemic:
- From health aspect: when there will be enough proportion of population has immunity. What is called as here or community immunity. How it will be ended: by social distancing, flattening the curve till the community immunity appears. Or from a good or some good vaccines and good widely vaccination.
- From social aspect: when people feel tired of social distancing, economy reache the collapse area and society need to be back to work.
I hope (of course) the first one will be what we have.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Tash on August 16, 2020, 04:58:38 PM
There are two directions to go end the pandemic:

Stop writting about it, and its gone, does not exist, same as racism.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Hileudpeuteuy on August 17, 2020, 09:55:41 AM
Maybe better be to consider use face shield it more safe and comfort, you can use it for the formal eventvtoo. Because if we use face mask just for stopping the virus from our self to other people it safe.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: yazher on August 17, 2020, 02:04:08 PM
Maybe better be to consider use face shield it more safe and comfort, you can use it for the formal eventvtoo. Because if we use face mask just for stopping the virus from our self to other people it safe.

In our city you should wear both or else you gonna pay for fines. Both wearing face mask and face shield are necessary when going out of your home. But most people in our village don't really follow these instructions because they are not aware of the consequences. But those who are going to the City proper are strictly following the protocols.

http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2020-08/17/139296021_15976289227781n.jpg
 


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on August 17, 2020, 05:59:54 PM
Maybe better be to consider use face shield it more safe and comfort, you can use it for the formal eventvtoo. Because if we use face mask just for stopping the virus from our self to other people it safe.

In our city you should wear both or else you gonna pay for fines. Both wearing face mask and face shield are necessary when going out of your home. But most people in our village don't really follow these instructions because they are not aware of the consequences. But those who are going to the City proper are strictly following the protocols.

http://www.xinhuanet.com/english/2020-08/17/139296021_15976289227781n.jpg
 

In the USA, you wear masks after you get law enforcement to order you to. That way you can invoice them for ordering you to do something you didn't wish to do... 13th Amendment, involuntary servitude.

When they don't pay, take them to court man-to-man. If they don't show up, get a default judgment for, say, $500,000, and sell it to "We Buy Judgments" for 10% of the face value, and make yourself a tidy $50,000.

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Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on September 03, 2020, 04:32:02 AM
How do you like your diaper today? :D

Take a look at the other pictures at the site.


Why Diapers Are Dangerous (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/289860-2020-09-02-why-diapers-are-dangerous.htm)



https://www.ericpetersautos.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/loathsome-Karl-696x328.jpg (https://www.ericpetersautos.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/loathsome-Karl-696x328.jpg)

The Diapers by themselves are loathsome. People wearing them look like neurotics – the same neurotics. Diapers efface individuality. They turn people into NPC characters in a sick actual reality game.

They are alienating, unhealthy – medically and psychologically.

But they are more than merely Diapers – as ought to be apparent.

Given that there is no persuasive medical reason to wear a Face Diaper (much less a dirty bandana) the obvious conclusion is that the insistence on covering the face is to efface the face. To submerge the individual into a collective of faceless, interchangeable players who have surrendered their individuality for the sake of obedience

Diapers are training tools.

They are meant to habituate people to the "new normal" – which will include management by the corporate-government nexus to a degree we probably can't yet fully comprehend. Diaper acceptance will lead to Needling acceptance, which will not even require laws.

All that it will take is policies – as per Diapers.

The same corporations which deny service to the Undiapered will deny service – and employment – to those who refuse the vaccine. People who don't submit will simply be excluded, as now. No job, no shop. Perhaps no food. They will be herded onto reservations of a sort – i.e., their homes, which they won't be allowed to leave or rather which there will be no point in leaving since there's nowhere to go and nothing to do.

The corporate-government nexus will wait you out – perhaps starve you out.

It will be almost impossible to resist unless you go Amish. Those who aren't able to live on virtually no income,  who can produce their own food, etc. will be the only holdouts.

Everyone else who works for a company – which is almost everyone – will be required to submit to the Needle just as they have been forced to submit to the Diaper, which they submitted to because they had already submitted to things like mandatory drug tests as a condition of employment – which they had to submit to, since all employers require them now, just about.

No laws needed.

Corporations – and policies – have replaced laws.

This is ingenious. And it isn't new.

After nahhhhnlevven and even before then, as the development of technology made possible the unimaginable, the federal government figured out that it could bypass aggravations such as the laws which restricted to some degree what it could do to the people – for example, mass surveil them – by having private contractors do the dirty work instead. Some will recall the private armies of mercenaries- and torturers – created under the auspice of Blackwater as a for-instance. What the U.S. Army couldn't do, the goons of Blackwater could.

Fast forward twenty years.

The government doesn't censor speech. But private companies are very effectively suppressing it – which amounts to the same as these private companies have near-monopoly control of the means by which information is disseminated. To paraphrase what der Stellvertreter once said of his boss: Gurgle ist communication just as communication ist Gurgle!

No laws needed to "de-platform" or "de-monetize" you. The First Amendment still applies – but only to the government. How much free speech do you have at work? Ask the people who work at Goodyear.


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Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Mauser on September 05, 2020, 08:45:09 AM
Maybe better be to consider use face shield it more safe and comfort, you can use it for the formal eventvtoo. Because if we use face mask just for stopping the virus from our self to other people it safe.

I agree the facemasks are mostly in place to protect others from ourself. It's a form of respect to other people when we go shopping or are in close environments. We can't be certain if we are carrying the virus within us or not, because sometimes the symptons are very mild. It doesn't hurt anybody to wear a mask and you might be saving lifes with that. There is no reason not do it.
No need to buy any fancy masks, you can just buy locally produced cheap face masks that can be washed. It's a one time purchase.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Jet Cash on September 05, 2020, 08:54:37 AM
Wearing face masks is selfish and counter-productive. If you aren't infected, they they are totally useless, and they won't even stop you getting a mild infection to build immunity. If you are infected, then you are stopping other people from getting infected and building a natural immunity. If we don't build "herd immunity" naturally, then governments may decide on mandatory vaccinations, and they will create crippling and debilitating diseases in many in the population.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: randy1990 on September 10, 2020, 06:00:09 PM
According to CDC(Centers for Disease Control and Prevention), sometimes you tested postitive for COvid-19 but don't show symptoms, which means you can infect someone without showing symptoms. So, I think skipping face mask is not a good decision. It's for others, not for you.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on September 10, 2020, 09:37:11 PM
Maybe better be to consider use face shield it more safe and comfort, you can use it for the formal eventvtoo. Because if we use face mask just for stopping the virus from our self to other people it safe.

I agree the facemasks are mostly in place to protect others from ourself. It's a form of respect to other people when we go shopping or are in close environments. We can't be certain if we are carrying the virus within us or not, because sometimes the symptons are very mild. It doesn't hurt anybody to wear a mask and you might be saving lifes with that. There is no reason not do it.
No need to buy any fancy masks, you can just buy locally produced cheap face masks that can be washed. It's a one time purchase.


For sure! I don't want to look at all those ugly pusses, so why would I want to offend somebody by almost forcing them to look at mine?


Diaper Defiance is Spreading (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/290351-2020-09-10-diaper-defiance-is-spreading.htm)



There was a huge rally of the Undiapered in Madrid, attended by thousands, who are tired of being told they're sick and ordered to behave as if they were.

And when police tried to Hut! Hut! Hut! a woman who wasn't wearing a Diaper, people came to her defense, forcing the Diaperers to back off.

Resistance is spreading.

It is all really good news – which probably explains why it isn't being reported by the American press.

Spanish police attempt to arrest a woman not wearing a mask
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/px2b318tUEQ/hqdefault.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEjCPYBEIoBSFryq4qpAxUIARUAAAAAGAElAADIQj0AgKJDeAE=&rs=AOn4CLCSqJ-2jJHVUjmpwQ8TZ08Qc3OYAA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=px2b318tUEQ (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=px2b318tUEQ)

Which seems to want to report nothing but bad news – even when it has to be made up.

In order to efface the good news.

The most egregious example of this, of course, being the daily hyperventilating over "the cases!" the cases!" and "hot spots" of "cases!" The implication – never directly stated but heavily implied – is that a "case" is tantamount to death, or at least, an illness so serious that it will require medical attention to recover from it.

But the fact is that almost all the "cases" being reported don't even have symptoms.

This is a disease so deadly people only occasionally get sick from it. And of those who do get seriously sick, almost all of them, according to the CDC, "had one or more underlying conditions such as chronic lung disease, diabetes, cardiovascular disease or hypertension."


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Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: tvbcof on October 06, 2020, 12:03:30 PM

It's now pretty clear that the face mask mandates are leading to a lot of conditions known collectively as 'mask mouth'.  Nasty diseased looking skin, rotting teeth and gums, terribly halitosis (bad breath), etc.

Many of the problems are fungal in nature, and the heat and humidity that anyone who has worn a mask for a while can attest to, is certainly a contributing factor.  These would be infections of fungal agents such as candida and ringworm.  Fungal infections of the mouth can turn into life threatening conditions as per the following picture:

https://openi.nlm.nih.gov/imgs/512/27/3961907/PMC3961907_NJMS-4-249-g001.png?keywords=infection,diabetes%20mellitus

True to the 'new normal' protocols, the big tech corporations are scrubbing any information about this set of problems from social media.  One has to know how to turn over rocks to find information about the dangers, although so many people are being forced into this ritualistic mask-wearing nonsense that a fair number of them are feeling the ill effects first-hand.



Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: wanted sliter on October 06, 2020, 03:36:47 PM
Obviously wearing a mask provides more safety when we breathe. Viruses exist in the human body and they spread through the respiratory tract. If each person takes measures to limit the spread of the virus, it will minimize the risk of spreading Corona to the whole community. Countries around the world have used masks and they effectively prevent this virus from spreading.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Renampun on October 06, 2020, 09:46:06 PM
According to CDC(Centers for Disease Control and Prevention), sometimes you tested postitive for COvid-19 but don't show symptoms, which means you can infect someone without showing symptoms. So, I think skipping face mask is not a good decision. It's for others, not for you.
Using a mask when leaving the house does not guarantee that you will be safe but it will reduce your risk of contracting it...
Every country, especially a densely populated country, is sure to experience an explosion of corona sufferers, all of which are caused by public distrust of the government, all world governments suggest that their citizens wear masks, but today's society is more ignorant and less caring.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on October 06, 2020, 10:40:39 PM
According to CDC(Centers for Disease Control and Prevention), sometimes you tested postitive for COvid-19 but don't show symptoms, which means you can infect someone without showing symptoms. So, I think skipping face mask is not a good decision. It's for others, not for you.
Using a mask when leaving the house does not guarantee that you will be safe but it will reduce your risk of contracting it...
Every country, especially a densely populated country, is sure to experience an explosion of corona sufferers, all of which are caused by public distrust of the government, all world governments suggest that their citizens wear masks, but today's society is more ignorant and less caring.

That's because many country and other government leaders don't know what they are talking about. Watch the first 5 minutes.


U.S. HEALTH LEADERS IGNORE THE SCIENCE
https://static-3.bitchute.com/live/cover_images/okiFK5CwQrZS/rlWESmrijl8Q_640x360.jpg
https://www.bitchute.com/video/rlWESmrijl8Q/ (https://www.bitchute.com/video/rlWESmrijl8Q/)


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Title: Re: Không mua khẩu trang cho coronavirus!
Post by: noorammak on October 07, 2020, 03:39:28 PM
I do not agree with such propaganda. The coronavirus spreads through the respiratory tract. Waste, blood, and salivary glands will be carriers of the virus. We disregard blood and waste products because they are routinely handled properly and people do not have as much contact with them as our daily interactions. So wearing a mask is a way to limit people from spreading the virus into the community. Wearing a mask protects ourselves and protects others.


Title: Re: Không mua khẩu trang cho coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on October 07, 2020, 05:39:07 PM
I do not agree with such propaganda. The coronavirus spreads through the respiratory tract. Waste, blood, and salivary glands will be carriers of the virus. We disregard blood and waste products because they are routinely handled properly and people do not have as much contact with them as our daily interactions. So wearing a mask is a way to limit people from spreading the virus into the community. Wearing a mask protects ourselves and protects others.

The quoted post is exactly the reason why we are losing our freedom, why the economy is crashing, and why people are becoming sicker. Poor people like noorammak are the way so many of the people are. You can show them a picture of how ineffective masks are right above where they posted - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5230708.msg55328354#msg55328354 - and you can explain it in the video at the same place, and they still want a pandemic.

What is with these sick people? Is this what the Covid virus has done to their brain? Has it really made them so that they can't see the facts even when the facts stare them in the face?

And what's worse is, they don't simply want to hunker down and run from wisdom, but they want to bring as many people as they can into their stupidity. Are they paid trolls? Are there really thousands of paid trolls out there?

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Title: Re: Không mua trang cho coronavirus!
Post by: noorammak on October 08, 2020, 01:32:17 PM
I do not agree with such propaganda. The coronavirus spreads through the respiratory tract. Waste, blood, and salivary glands will be carriers of the virus. We disregard blood and waste products because they are routinely handled properly and people do not have as much contact with them as our daily interactions. So wearing a mask is a way to limit people from spreading the virus into the community. Wearing a mask protects ourselves and protects others.

The quoted post is exactly the reason why we are losing our freedom, why the economy is crashing, and why people are becoming sicker. Poor people like noorammak are the way so many of the people are. You can show them a picture of how ineffective masks are right above where they posted - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5230708.msg55328354#msg55328354 - and you can explain it in the video at the same place, and they still want a pandemic.

What is with these sick people? Is this what the Covid virus has done to their brain? Has it really made them so that they can't see the facts even when the facts stare them in the face?

And what's worse is, they don't simply want to hunker down and run from wisdom, but they want to bring as many people as they can into their stupidity. Are they paid trolls? Are there really thousands of paid trolls out there?

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What are you trying to say? Masks are available to help us avoid contact with respiratory pathogens.
Doctors still use masks to prevent disease when in contact with patients. So why don't we use them? Where to wear a mask to lose freedom? Use masks to protect us from germs. Most countries encourage the use of masks so it really works.


Title: Re: Không mua trang cho coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on October 08, 2020, 06:20:49 PM
I do not agree with such propaganda. The coronavirus spreads through the respiratory tract. Waste, blood, and salivary glands will be carriers of the virus. We disregard blood and waste products because they are routinely handled properly and people do not have as much contact with them as our daily interactions. So wearing a mask is a way to limit people from spreading the virus into the community. Wearing a mask protects ourselves and protects others.

The quoted post is exactly the reason why we are losing our freedom, why the economy is crashing, and why people are becoming sicker. Poor people like noorammak are the way so many of the people are. You can show them a picture of how ineffective masks are right above where they posted - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5230708.msg55328354#msg55328354 - and you can explain it in the video at the same place, and they still want a pandemic.

What is with these sick people? Is this what the Covid virus has done to their brain? Has it really made them so that they can't see the facts even when the facts stare them in the face?

And what's worse is, they don't simply want to hunker down and run from wisdom, but they want to bring as many people as they can into their stupidity. Are they paid trolls? Are there really thousands of paid trolls out there?

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What are you trying to say? Masks are available to help us avoid contact with respiratory pathogens.
Doctors still use masks to prevent disease when in contact with patients. So why don't we use them? Where to wear a mask to lose freedom? Use masks to protect us from germs. Most countries encourage the use of masks so it really works.

We absolutely should do what we can to remain Covid free. But masks aren't the way... at least not in the way they are being used. Check the video in the link. Even if a mask stops one or two Covid viruses, they produce all kinds of other problems that are worse than Covid. Check the video in the link.

Doctors use masks for two reasons:
1. to stop their own spittle from directly flying into a patient's wound;
2. to slow down their own inhalation of water droplets and the bacteria that are in them... because inhalation can actually suck the mask tighter onto their face.

The way average people use masks might do one thing. The might stop a little spittle from jumping onto something or somebody that is right in front of them when they speak. The video shows that the masks do very little in stopping the spread of water droplets that might contain Covid and many other things.

At the same time the masks are ineffective at stopping the spread from a person, they are dangerous to both the wearer, and to others, from the multiplication of bacteria that takes place within the masks... bacteria mostly from the wearer. As bacteria exhaled from the wear grow on the inside of a mask, it is sucked back into the wearer on the inhale. Then it is blown all around to others on the exhale, as shown in the video.

The losing of freedom isn't from voluntarily wearing a mask. The loss of freedom comes from forcing both, those want to wear to not wear, and those who don't want to wear to wear. The better protection, as I have outlined, is to NOT wear. But freedom is most important.

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Title: Re: Không mua trang cho coronavirus!
Post by: tvbcof on October 08, 2020, 06:23:02 PM
...
Most countries encourage the use of masks so it really works.

State sponsored education system FTW!



Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on October 14, 2020, 02:37:18 AM
^^^ State sponsored education system continued.

Go to the site to watch the Robert Redfield video (CDC Head).


CDC Study Finds Overwhelming Majority Of People Getting Coronavirus Wore Masks (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/292467-2020-10-13-cdc-study-finds-overwhelming-majority-of-people-getting-coronavirus-wore.htm)



A study conducted in the United States in July found that when they compared 154 "case-patients," who tested positive for COVID-19, to a control group of 160 participants from the same health care facility who were symptomatic but tested negative, over 70 percent of the case-patients were contaminated with the virus and fell ill despite "always" wearing a mask.

"In the 14 days before illness onset, 71% of case-patients and 74% of control participants reported always using cloth face coverings or other mask types when in public," the report stated.

https://thefederalist.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Screen-Shot-2020-10-12-at-10.09.31-AM.png (https://thefederalist.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Screen-Shot-2020-10-12-at-10.09.31-AM.png)

In addition, over 14 percent of the case-patients said they "often" wore a face covering and were still infected with the virus. The study also demonstrates that under 4 percent of the case-patients became sick with the virus even though they "never" wore a mask or face covering.

Despite over 70 percent of the case-patient participants' efforts to follow CDC recommendations by committing to always wearing face coverings at "gatherings with ≤10 or >10 persons in a home; shopping; dining at a restaurant; going to an office setting, salon, gym, bar/coffee shop, or church/religious gathering; or using public transportation," they still contracted the virus.

While the study notes that some of these people may have contracted the virus from the few moments that they removed their mask to eat or drink at "places that offer on-site eating or drinking," the CDC concedes that there is no successful way to evaluate if that was the exact moment someone became exposed and contracted the virus.

"Characterization of community exposures can be difficult to assess when widespread transmission is occurring, especially from asymptomatic persons within inherently interconnected communities," the report states.

In fact, the report suggests that "direction, ventilation, and intensity of airflow might affect virus transmission, even if social distancing measures and mask use are implemented according to current guidance."

Despite this new scientific information, the CDC, Director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases Dr. Anthony Fauci, and many political authorities are still encouraging people to wear masks. Many states and cities have even mandated masks, citing them as one of the main tools to "slow the spread" of coronavirus and keep case numbers in their area down.

CDC Director Dr. Robert Redfield makes it as clear as he can: "This face mask is more guaranteed to protect me against COVID than when I take a COVID vaccine."
[See the video.]


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Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Tash on October 14, 2020, 07:41:38 AM
^^^ State sponsored education system continued.

Go to the site to watch the Robert Redfield video (CDC Head).


CDC Study Finds Overwhelming Majority Of People Getting Coronavirus Wore Masks (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/292467-2020-10-13-cdc-study-finds-overwhelming-majority-of-people-getting-coronavirus-wore.htm)



A study conducted in the United States in July found that when they compared 154 "case-patients," who tested positive for COVID-19, to a control group of 160 participants from the same health care facility who were symptomatic but tested negative, over 70 percent of the case-patients were contaminated with the virus and fell ill despite "always" wearing a mask.

"In the 14 days before illness onset, 71% of case-patients and 74% of control participants reported always using cloth face coverings or other mask types when in public," the report stated.

https://thefederalist.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Screen-Shot-2020-10-12-at-10.09.31-AM.png (https://thefederalist.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Screen-Shot-2020-10-12-at-10.09.31-AM.png)

In addition, over 14 percent of the case-patients said they "often" wore a face covering and were still infected with the virus. The study also demonstrates that under 4 percent of the case-patients became sick with the virus even though they "never" wore a mask or face covering.

Despite over 70 percent of the case-patient participants' efforts to follow CDC recommendations by committing to always wearing face coverings at "gatherings with ≤10 or >10 persons in a home; shopping; dining at a restaurant; going to an office setting, salon, gym, bar/coffee shop, or church/religious gathering; or using public transportation," they still contracted the virus.

While the study notes that some of these people may have contracted the virus from the few moments that they removed their mask to eat or drink at "places that offer on-site eating or drinking," the CDC concedes that there is no successful way to evaluate if that was the exact moment someone became exposed and contracted the virus.

"Characterization of community exposures can be difficult to assess when widespread transmission is occurring, especially from asymptomatic persons within inherently interconnected communities," the report states.

In fact, the report suggests that "direction, ventilation, and intensity of airflow might affect virus transmission, even if social distancing measures and mask use are implemented according to current guidance."

Despite this new scientific information, the CDC, Director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases Dr. Anthony Fauci, and many political authorities are still encouraging people to wear masks. Many states and cities have even mandated masks, citing them as one of the main tools to "slow the spread" of coronavirus and keep case numbers in their area down.

CDC Director Dr. Robert Redfield makes it as clear as he can: "This face mask is more guaranteed to protect me against COVID than when I take a COVID vaccine."
[See the video.]


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No surprise there.
The body needs oxygen, prevending the CO2 from proper exiting will make blood acidic, lead to illness or dead, depending on percent of CO2 concentration. Oxygen intake of 19.5%-23.5% normal only 6% dead. Mask reduce it to about 17% or even dead, 6 kids knowingly dyed from wearing mask and doing sports. The science for it is simple the fine mask with moisture form a cohesive bond,  Surface tension (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surface_tension) transforming the mask to a "plastic bag".
The body working 24/7 to get rid of CO2 and give it to the trees and gras who need it to exist. Some even working against the own body and forcefully reintroducing the gas by drinking co2 (cola, fanta, gasous mineral water....), slightly on the insane side, but lets not stray to far away.

https://www.sott.net/article/442455-German-Neurologist-Warns-Against-Wearing-Facemasks-Oxygen-Deprivation-Causes-Permanent-Neurological-Damage#


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Mauser on October 14, 2020, 11:15:10 AM
You need face masks almost anywhere these days. Without them you are kit allowed to enter stores, offices or restaurants. So we all need them, there is no way around it. Which doesn't mean we need to buy them. Face masks can easily made at home out of old clothes. One good thing from making masks yourself is that you can wash them at home and reuse them. The cheap hospital masks can't usually be washed and have to been thrown away eventually. A home made mask from cotton can be washed by 60C+ to kill the virus.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on October 14, 2020, 03:29:00 PM
^^^ Such has been a very small problem in my part of the USA. However, part of the answer that few people are acting on is to form Private Membership Associations (PMAs).

A PMA is outside the jurisdiction of standard governmental control. There are 70 strong Supreme Court cases that say so, and Amendments 1 and 4 virtually state it. In other words, no masks required if the PMA agrees with this idea.

We can add farms and stores and restaurants to the PMA, and we won't need strict licensing in any of them... if we need licensing at all. Those people who want to follow PMA freedom, will have to sign up and become members. Those who don't, simply won't.

If government wants to enforce mask rules in PMAs, the courts can be used to require the government people to provide proof that there really is a Covid virus, etc., that is a danger to people within the PMA, and without. So far, Covid proof is so difficult to come by that it might be non-existent. Everything Covid is based on hearsay and assumptions. If they can't prove the danger, they have no case.

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Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Maroons on October 15, 2020, 06:59:43 AM
You need face masks almost anywhere these days. Without them you are kit allowed to enter stores, offices or restaurants. So we all need them, there is no way around it. Which doesn't mean we need to buy them. Face masks can easily made at home out of old clothes. One good thing from making masks yourself is that you can wash them at home and reuse them. The cheap hospital masks can't usually be washed and have to been thrown away eventually. A home made mask from cotton can be washed by 60C+ to kill the virus.
Cloth or fabric mask is still a good thing to have when you go outside because it still helps in keeping you and others safe from each other in case one of you is infected without knowing it or what we called asymptomatic but if you still want a decent protection surgical mask is the best options specially if you still go to work and interact with some people, that thing will prevent you from the virus and if you have some cash you can also buy a faceshield which will really help you avoiding the virus and you can just wear a simple fabric mask if you are wearing a face shield because you have 2 layers of protection already. 


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Tash on October 15, 2020, 03:51:46 PM
You need face masks almost anywhere these days. Without them you are kit allowed to enter stores, offices or restaurants. So we all need them, there is no way around it. Which doesn't mean we need to buy them. Face masks can easily made at home out of old clothes. One good thing from making masks yourself is that you can wash them at home and reuse them. The cheap hospital masks can't usually be washed and have to been thrown away eventually. A home made mask from cotton can be washed by 60C+ to kill the virus.
Cloth or fabric mask is still a good thing to have when you go outside because it still helps ..............

Only two ways of getting a virus, injecting with a needle or mosquito. How on earth will a mask or shield (aka battlehelm as worn in war) prevent a mosquito sting. Malaria would no longer exist.
In this world war some see imagenary enemy at every spare space.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Wolf333 on October 16, 2020, 07:29:55 PM
In any case, it is better to wear masks for everyone.
First of all, it is important to know how the new coronavirus infection spreads. It is now known that there are two main transmission routes. Firstly, these are drops that fly out of a person when he coughs, sneezes and, for example, speaks. They go down rather quickly and if they end up on the mucous membranes of another person, he can get sick. Secondly, it is contact with contaminated surfaces. If a sick person coughed into his palm, then touched the doorknob, and then you grabbed it and rubbed your nose, then this can also lead to infection.

Another possible route for the spread of the virus is through smaller droplets that remain in the air for a long time. However, there is currently no evidence that under normal conditions, when you do not perform complex manipulations in the intensive care unit, such particles can be in the air.

Masks can protect you if a person coughs at you at a distance of less than two meters. That is why they are necessary for medical professionals who often find themselves in this situation. But they will not protect from infection through contact with a contaminated surface - as well as from smaller drops (if an ordinary person can meet them at all).


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on October 17, 2020, 02:58:10 AM
For a professional (OSHA) look at masks. Also, look at the CDC's study that shows that masks are useless.

8.5 minute video - https://www.bitchute.com/video/bfpl9eKVs4dm/

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Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Gyfts on October 17, 2020, 07:26:20 AM
For a professional (OSHA) look at masks. Also, look at the CDC's study that shows that masks are useless.

8.5 minute video - https://www.bitchute.com/video/bfpl9eKVs4dm/

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The CDC's recommendation were made in March when they advocated against facemasks, and you know what, I am in very light agreement with you (but probably for different reasons  ;))

The CDC now recommends face masks but the reality is, not many European countries with COVID-19 flair ups are mandating masks because the studies are split on how much masks make a difference.

There were some studies that suggested other factors a part from mask wearing determine the chance of catching COVID from another person like type of interaction, length of interaction, separation, ect. It isn't clear what type of affect mask wearing has on asymptomatic transmission which is exactly why all the doctors in the U.S. did not advocate for mask wearing back in March. They flip the script obviously because masks don't hurt, which I agree with -- they don't.

N95 respirators are clinically proven to stop the transmission of the virus. Those cheap masks from china that don't even create a proper seal, or cloth masks that might have holes throughout, are far from ideal.




Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on October 17, 2020, 04:40:30 PM
For a professional (OSHA) look at masks. Also, look at the CDC's study that shows that masks are useless.

8.5 minute video - https://www.bitchute.com/video/bfpl9eKVs4dm/

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The CDC's recommendation were made in March when they advocated against facemasks, and you know what, I am in very light agreement with you (but probably for different reasons  ;))

The CDC now recommends face masks but the reality is, not many European countries with COVID-19 flair ups are mandating masks because the studies are split on how much masks make a difference.

There were some studies that suggested other factors a part from mask wearing determine the chance of catching COVID from another person like type of interaction, length of interaction, separation, ect. It isn't clear what type of affect mask wearing has on asymptomatic transmission which is exactly why all the doctors in the U.S. did not advocate for mask wearing back in March. They flip the script obviously because masks don't hurt, which I agree with -- they don't.

N95 respirators are clinically proven to stop the transmission of the virus. Those cheap masks from china that don't even create a proper seal, or cloth masks that might have holes throughout, are far from ideal.


However, in the video that I linked above, OSHA people say that N95 masks don't work. OSHA has been testing them for many years.

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Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: smajler on October 22, 2020, 09:30:43 PM
I don't wear masks! Someone recommended self-made masks from homemade materials is the worst that can be. If you have a carbon monoxide detector at home, put it under the hood for a moment. See what happens!


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on October 22, 2020, 09:41:15 PM
Somebody really needs to tell the Lone Ranger that he doesn't need a mask. After all, Tonto doesn't wear one.

 ;D


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: lienfaye on October 22, 2020, 09:47:17 PM
Face mask is mandatory to use here due to the virus. It can protect yourself and others as well to not be infected if you happen to have a virus.

We need to follow the rule in order to stop the spread of the virus but some people are not taking it seriously. Its hard for them to abide and still doing what they think is right. This is the reason why the number of infected each day here is still thousands and it seems it will continue this way unless the vaccine is already available in the market.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: smajler on October 22, 2020, 10:16:40 PM
Face mask is mandatory to use here due to the virus. It can protect yourself and others as well to not be infected if you happen to have a virus.

We need to follow the rule in order to stop the spread of the virus but some people are not taking it seriously. Its hard for them to abide and still doing what they think is right. This is the reason why the number of infected each day here is still thousands and it seems it will continue this way unless the vaccine is already available in the market.


It's bullshit. corona viruses have been with us since the 1960s and we live with them. Masks do not protect, and are the first step to depriving people of freedom. Vaccinations won't work because coronaviruses keep coming back like the seasonal flu! Check archives statistics from previous years in your country. TODAY, we are all suddenly cured of the flu ?! in my country it worked out, I examined the beginning of October 2019 and the beginning of October 2020


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Mauser on October 23, 2020, 08:06:00 AM

It's bullshit. corona viruses have been with us since the 1960s and we live with them. Masks do not protect, and are the first step to depriving people of freedom. Vaccinations won't work because coronaviruses keep coming back like the seasonal flu! Check archives statistics from previous years in your country. TODAY, we are all suddenly cured of the flu ?! in my country it worked out, I examined the beginning of October 2019 and the beginning of October 2020


How can you be so ignorant towards your neighbours? How is wearing a mask taking away your freedom? You don't know they are not working, it just some things you read online and you want to believe. What do you think is the government going to do after everyone wears a mask? It's the first step to put is all in prison? What if your doctor says he doesn't want to wear a mask anymore when performing a surgery on you? It's fine too?

Just imagine that you could save 1 life by wearing a mask. Wouldn't it be worth it?


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Xembin on October 23, 2020, 06:45:05 PM
Going to 7years now people have been experiencing corona virus in the country that make the government pronunce every citizens should maintain social distances and wearing of face mask to prevent the virus.
I was try to make some requirement concerning faceshilt which the government has impose to all students to get before allow to enter class room. But some parents are complaining that faceshilt is too expensive for them to buy at this hardship we are now.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on October 28, 2020, 04:21:28 PM
^^^ If government orders you to do it, they should pay you whatever you charge them for messing with your life.

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Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: sky110 on December 18, 2020, 04:53:24 AM
 with this rank tell me to do what and might believe that it’s not useful and sometimes could bring harm to other people.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on December 18, 2020, 03:44:43 PM
with this rank tell me to do what and might believe that it’s not useful and sometimes could bring harm to other people.

Did you see a virus jump between people? Did you see one jump anywhere? Why do you think that viruses exist? Do you think that doctors don't lie?

Make them give you the proof in such a way you can understand it. If they won't, tell them to get out of your life. And government as well.

Of course, some kids enjoy playing "mask" at first. But after a while they tire of it.

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Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Slow death on December 18, 2020, 07:50:45 PM
with this rank tell me to do what and might believe that it’s not useful and sometimes could bring harm to other people.

Did you see a virus jump between people? Did you see one jump anywhere? Why do you think that viruses exist? Do you think that doctors don't lie?

Make them give you the proof in such a way you can understand it. If they won't, tell them to get out of your life. And government as well.

Of course, some kids enjoy playing "mask" at first. But after a while they tire of it.

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in my country many people think that this Virus is a lie because they have never seen the virus, but do you know what is the shame part of these people with this type of thinking?

they believe in god and when they are sick they go to the hospital to do analyzes and take medicines and are cured.

1 - they never saw god

2 - they do not enter the laboratory to see the analysis




Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on December 18, 2020, 11:00:48 PM
with this rank tell me to do what and might believe that it’s not useful and sometimes could bring harm to other people.

Did you see a virus jump between people? Did you see one jump anywhere? Why do you think that viruses exist? Do you think that doctors don't lie?

Make them give you the proof in such a way you can understand it. If they won't, tell them to get out of your life. And government as well.

Of course, some kids enjoy playing "mask" at first. But after a while they tire of it.

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in my country many people think that this Virus is a lie because they have never seen the virus, but do you know what is the shame part of these people with this type of thinking?

they believe in god and when they are sick they go to the hospital to do analyzes and take medicines and are cured.

1 - they never saw god

2 - they do not enter the laboratory to see the analysis


They recognize the existence of God, knowing that Someone made the universe.

They realize that if they eat the foods of nature properly, there is no need for a laboratory.

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Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Mauser on December 19, 2020, 10:57:08 AM
If you are above 60 years old you get masks for free in my country. Before buying expensive masks online I would actually check if you can get them for free. The best would of course be to just make the masks yourself. There are a lot of online tutorials on how to do it.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on December 19, 2020, 06:14:34 PM
If you are above 60 years old you get masks for free in my country. Before buying expensive masks online I would actually check if you can get them for free. The best would of course be to just make the masks yourself. There are a lot of online tutorials on how to do it.


They make great coffee filters.     8)


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: 5Ksana_HandMade on December 27, 2020, 07:53:38 AM
If you are above 60 years old you get masks for free in my country. Before buying expensive masks online I would actually check if you can get them for free. The best would of course be to just make the masks yourself. There are a lot of online tutorials on how to do it.

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My name is Aksana (5Ksana) and I am a professional master of creating jewelry, elements of decor, production of clothes in individual orders in different techniques and much more. I try that my works were beautiful and touched hearts of people what they would be wanted to be repeated or got for themselves, for decoration of the apartment, for the beloved kids, etc. I have a degree in "Design" .In this area I am working more than 15 years.

My site https://5ksana.art/

I love to help!

I make free free Two-Layered DIY Masks vs COVID-19 for children and all people who need them! https://twitter.com/5Ksana/status/1326055818052202496?s=20

Fundraising is carried out at an auction!

100% of the auction profits will go to the purchase of materials, tools for the production of free protective masks!

I want to help the community, I am sure you too but for the lack of initiative may be the person next to us is missing some support that could save his family in this pandemic crisis.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Tash on December 27, 2020, 02:52:45 PM
A lot of people think the mask is supposed to protect you  ??? (https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=144498200802119&id=109909220927684) it's actually to protect other people you interact with. And hand washing is still the best protection from the virus - and of course having a strong immune system  ;D (https://www.redhillsmsnews.com/node/27901).
Yeh making myself sick by preventing all CO2 from proper exhaling. The only way to transmit it is injecting it, needle, mosquito..
Any prolonged oxygen intake below 19.5% is damaging to health, kids been dying from mask wearing by sport actives. Only 6% is certain dead.
If the kidneys and lungs are unable to get rid of excess acid, it can cause serious health problems. The body fighting 24/7 to get rid of CO2 preventing it eventual lead to acidosis.

Respiratory acidosis is a condition that occurs when the lungs can’t remove enough of the carbon dioxide (CO2) produced by the body.
Excess CO2 causes the pH of blood and other bodily fluids to decrease, making them too acidic.
Acidosis occurs when the pH of the blood falls below 7.35 (normal blood pH is between 7.35 and 7.45).


If I am expected to wear a mask to protect these unhealthy fat fuggs, then I expect to see them stop eating shit food and do something about their shity health. Not my responsibility to protect  bad habits  of feeding junk McDonald’s and fueling diabetes.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on December 27, 2020, 09:11:25 PM
^^^ It would be interesting to see how long people live, who live at 9,000 feet altitude all their lives. Are there any who live at 12,000 feet all their lives?

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Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Crptomagma on December 30, 2020, 12:57:12 PM
I’m glad someone else observed the kind and inferior materials used in producing face mask and people out of fear Corona virus and trying to keep to the prevention measures they are pressurized to get such inferior and poor quality face mask.

In as much as everyone is trying to stay safe it’s also important we are aware about the type of face make we going to be using because we shouldn’t forget those materials as directly in front of our face and we literally inhale everything in there.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Tash on December 30, 2020, 01:28:43 PM
^^^ It would be interesting to see how long people live, who live at 9,000 feet altitude all their lives. Are there any who live at 12,000 feet all their lives?

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Highly recommended not spent a lot of time there. Money is not everything. Low oxygen is not the same as retaining CO2
When old retire on nice seaside village.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Rinconada,_Peru


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Mauser on December 30, 2020, 02:28:08 PM
I’m glad someone else observed the kind and inferior materials used in producing face mask and people out of fear Corona virus and trying to keep to the prevention measures they are pressurized to get such inferior and poor quality face mask.

In as much as everyone is trying to stay safe it’s also important we are aware about the type of face make we going to be using because we shouldn’t forget those materials as directly in front of our face and we literally inhale everything in there.

I agree, we should make sure that only high quality face masks are being sold. The government should block all the companies that are selling cheap masks. Unfortunately face masks are mandatory everywhere by now, we need to wear them. There are really high fees if we don't follow the rules.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: J9 - Coinhost on December 30, 2020, 04:26:43 PM
I buy cloth masks because I can reuse and wash them. Masks are required basically everywhere in Texas.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on December 30, 2020, 06:08:25 PM
I buy cloth masks because I can reuse and wash them. Masks are required basically everywhere in Texas.

Just curios. What does "everywhere" include? Like in your house? In your car? At Walmart? The Padre Islands?

Who enforces, and how long does it take for them to get to you to enforce?

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Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on December 30, 2020, 06:12:33 PM
^^^ It would be interesting to see how long people live, who live at 9,000 feet altitude all their lives. Are there any who live at 12,000 feet all their lives?

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Highly recommended not spent a lot of time there. Money is not everything. Low oxygen is not the same as retaining CO2
When old retire on nice seaside village.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Rinconada,_Peru

La Rinconada is a town in the Peruvian Andes near a gold mine - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Rinconada,_Peru.

I didn't read the whole article, but it says that it is at 16,700 feet in altitude. Have the seas risen that much over there?

 :D


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Tash on December 31, 2020, 07:20:10 AM
La Rinconada is a town in the Peruvian Andes near a gold mine - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/La_Rinconada,_Peru.
I didn't read the whole article, but it says that it is at 16,700 feet in altitude. Have the seas risen that much over there?
 :D
Yes, it is the highest permanent settlement in the world and people have major health issues with hypoxia. Not a place to be if not top fit instead retire at sealevel with over 20% oxygen concentration.  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypoxia_%28medical%29


Most of the victims of the Spanish flu post WWI died of bacterial pneumonia from wearing face masks!
https://catallaxyfiles.com/2020/12/31/masking-the-truth/

https://dn.truthorfiction.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/08131248/1918-spanish-flu-family-portrait-cat-face-mask.jpeg


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on December 31, 2020, 04:01:27 PM
^^^ Thank you, Tash. It's easy to see that bacterial spread could easily have been the cause of deaths in the Spanish Flu times. The reason why masks aren't killing as many people now is because we have way more medicines that work to extend things. But, people are starting to go to the hospitals in droves, from wearing masks and locking down... rather than remaining in the herd - no lockdowns and masks - spreading natural herd immunity to each other through love and togetherness.

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Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: tvbcof on January 14, 2021, 08:53:42 AM

Covid Teletubbies on the job!

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5ISl_qbld4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5ISl_qbld4)



Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Tash on January 14, 2021, 09:44:56 PM

There is a alternative to face mask, NO virus dares to go anywhere near that many bacterias
https://mentorslinks.com/worlds-dirtiest-man/

86 years old not a worry in life  (not so sure about girlfriend situation in younger years)
https://youtu.be/tBWaNH4jiwY


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on January 25, 2021, 06:39:50 PM
Oh look. The mask caught some viruses! The video shows them.

Haven't we been hearing that the PCR tests shows that a Covid victim has billions of viruses? That's how they can tell that a victim is a case, right? Where are the rest of the viruses? I mean, the mask should be black from viruses if they were effective.

Are you getting the picture, yet? Watch the video.


WHY MASKS PROTECT AND PIGS FLY - Zoom video into a mask (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Article/298572-2021-01-25-why-masks-protect-and-pigs-fly-zoom-video-into-a.htm)



The particles shown here are of course not Covid viruses, but represent the size of the presumed virus particles. Until today, the SARS-CoV-2 virus has never been scientifically proven according to the rules of virology (Koch's postulates).


WHY MASKS PROTECT AND PIGS FLY
https://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Uploads/Graphics/687-0125100055-mask-zoom-picture.png
https://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Media/Media-Files/687-0125095555-Mask-Zoom.MP4 (https://www.freedomsphoenix.com/Media/Media-Files/687-0125095555-Mask-Zoom.MP4)


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Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Tash on January 28, 2021, 09:46:07 AM
Scientifically verified reduction of blood oxygen level from wearing mask
5 National Library of Medicine studies from 2004-2020

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32590322/

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Conclusion: Wearing an N95 mask for 4 hours during HD significantly reduced PaO2 and increased respiratory adverse effects in ESRD patients.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15340662/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31159777/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29395560/


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Conclusions: Breathing through N95 mask materials have been shown to impede gaseous exchange and impose an additional workload on the metabolic system of pregnant healthcare workers, and this needs to be taken into consideration in guidelines for respirator use. The benefits of using N95 mask to prevent serious emerging infectious diseases should be weighed against potential respiratory consequences associated with extended N95 respirator usage.
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26579222/



Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on January 29, 2021, 05:23:39 PM
^^^ And note that this isn't the same as someone who might suddenly move to a higher altitude. There are detriments from mask usage in addition to less oxygen. One simple one is breathing more CO2 in a mask, which you won't find at higher altitudes without a mask.

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Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: tvbcof on February 03, 2021, 01:11:35 PM
       Face masks should be used as part of a comprehensive strategy of measures to suppress transmission and save lives; the use of a mask alone is not sufficient to provide an adequate level of protection against COVID-19.
      Make wearing a mask a normal part of being around other people. The appropriate use, storage and cleaning or disposal of masks are essential to make them as effective as possible.

Billions of species survived for billions of years without masks.  That would include hominids for the last several million until 2020.

If you want to survive and thrive with nasty mask-mouth and try to avoid the inevitable bacterial pneumonia which is only a matter of time for chronic mask wearers, then 'God Bless, Move Forward.'  It's a free country.  It was not uncommon to see masks in some societies in Asia, but it was more about pollution and a condition called 'allergic rhinitis' which is highly associated with over-vaccination.  I'll just keep my family away from scary sicko's like you.  All I would request is to Just don't ask others to live your unhealthy and paranoid nightmare.



Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on February 03, 2021, 04:45:55 PM
      Face masks should be used as part of a comprehensive strategy of measures to suppress transmission and save lives; the use of a mask alone is not sufficient to provide an adequate level of protection against COVID-19.
      Make wearing a mask a normal part of being around other people. The appropriate use, storage and cleaning or disposal of masks are essential to make them as effective as possible.

Just how do face masks save lives? Detailed studies show that they increase all kinds of infections, allow less oxygen into a person's body, and don't stop Covid.

The only area where they might work in a few people is placebo effect... where faith in the masks enhances the beliefs of these few people that they will be saved, and so they subconsciously organize their personal physiologies in ways that save them through internal, bio-chemical action.

Most people have a natural aversion to masks that makes it difficult for them to overcome their placebo-effect, mask-aversion faith, and be saved through placebo effect mask usage.

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Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on February 08, 2021, 08:12:09 AM
Another study showing the dangers of masks.


Long-term Mask Use May Contribute to Advanced Stage Lung Cancer, Study Finds (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/299324-2021-02-07-long-term-mask-use-may-contribute-to-advanced-stage-lung.htm)



Microbiologists agree that frequent mask wearing creates a moist environment in which microbes are allowed to grow and proliferate before entering the lungs. Those foreign microbes then travel down the trachea and into two tubes called the bronchi until they reach small air sacks covered in blood vessels called alveoli.

"The lungs were long thought to be sterile, but we now know that oral commensals–microbes normally found in the mouth–frequently enter the lungs due to unconscious aspirations." – Leopoldo Segal, Study Author and Director of the Lung Microbiome Program and Associate Professor of Medicine at New York University Grossman School of Medicine

According to the study (https://www.azolifesciences.com/news/20201112/Presence-of-microbes-in-lung-can-activate-immune-response-to-modulate-lung-cancer-pathogenesis.aspx), after invading the lungs these microbes cause an inflammatory response in proteins known as cytokine IL-17.


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Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Mauser on February 08, 2021, 09:50:39 AM
There are now new vouchers for face masks in my country. You can get now 12 FFP2 masks for almost free per months. This is totally enough masks for a month. This is great news so we don't need to spend our own money anymore to buy the masks. There is no more real reason to buy the masks if we get them for free, especially the more expensive medical masks.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Tash on February 08, 2021, 07:47:12 PM
Tell me again why you wear a mask or have lockdowns.
10 Million people is more than some countries entire population
https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/asymptomatic-transmission-of-covid-19-didnt-occur-at-all-study-of-10-million-finds
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33219229/


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: tvbcof on February 17, 2021, 06:27:17 AM

More Mask Muzak:

https://www.bitchute.com/video/BISXhOkhSruX/ (https://www.bitchute.com/video/BISXhOkhSruX/)



Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: darklus123 on February 17, 2021, 09:48:38 AM
Only an idiot doesn't believe in the virus lol. I think it is true that the virus will really not cause too much trouble for those who have a strong immune system. However, should we take the risk and ignore its destruction? Where is humanity on that part?

If you will not believe it then it's up to you but don't fool people to stop using the preventive measures that the "experts" advise.  We completely understand the risk of wearing mask for longer hours and should be minimized (that is now your responsibility). If you don't feel like wearing a mask then stay on the isolated place or where there are less people.



Billions of species survived for billions of years without masks.  That would include hominids for the last several million until 2020.

If you want to survive and thrive with nasty mask-mouth and try to avoid the inevitable bacterial pneumonia which is only a matter of time for chronic mask wearers, then 'God Bless, Move Forward.'  It's a free country.  It was not uncommon to see masks in some societies in Asia, but it was more about pollution and a condition called 'allergic rhinitis' which is highly associated with over-vaccination.  I'll just keep my family away from scary sicko's like you.  All I would request is to Just don't ask others to live your unhealthy and paranoid nightmare.



If you or someone from your family gets this deadly virus and starts to suffer from it then start blaming also your ideology.

I think we hoomans only have this choices.
  • Don't follow preventive measures and take the risk of getting and suffering covid but is 100% safe from the side-effect of mask
  • Follow protocol but minimize your use(minimize going outside). This also means minimizing the risk of getting the virus and the possible side-effects


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Tash on February 17, 2021, 10:33:58 AM
Only an idiot doesn't believe in the virus lol...........
Only a idiot would put precedence of tel-lie-vision over science. No shortage of them in the world just yet.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: actmyname on February 17, 2021, 10:56:41 AM
Tell me again why you wear a mask or have lockdowns.
10 Million people is more than some countries entire population
Yes, and?

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/asymptomatic-transmission-of-covid-19-didnt-occur-at-all-study-of-10-million-finds
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33219229/
Oh wait, now you trust china?


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: tvbcof on February 17, 2021, 11:14:12 AM

If you or someone from your family gets this deadly virus and starts to suffer from it then start blaming also your ideology.

Yup.  That's how it works.

Quote from: Goering
Oh, that is all well and good, but, voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country.

I think we hoomans only have this choices.
  • Don't follow preventive measures and take the risk of getting and suffering covid but is 100% safe from the side-effect of mask
  • Follow protocol but minimize your use(minimize going outside). This also means minimizing the risk of getting the virus and the possible side-effects


'side effects' such as immunity from 2020's common cold, and several years worth of 'strains' as well if one has a functional immune system (as do most non-vaccinated people.)

And at a %0.005 percent chance of death for most people, if that.  It's not very practical to contrast that with the percentage chance of being killed or seriously maimed by the so-called 'vaccine' do to political issues and censorship, but a skim of VAERS database and general reports indicate that it is MUCH higher.  Not at all surprising to us who have followed the medical/industrial complex scams and crimes over the years.



Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: DrBeer on February 17, 2021, 01:02:28 PM
I will express my assessment
About the benefits / dangers of the mask. Since the beginning of the epidemic, like everyone else, I and my whole family have put on masks. On the street, in transport, in shops - they wore masks everywhere. The positive effect was until December 2020. In December, the whole family fell ill with Covid19. It's hard to say where and how we caught the virus. Perhaps one of us communicated without a mask with friends who were carriers, after which he became a carrier himself and brought it to the family.
Total: on the one hand, it objectively reduces the risk of infection. On the other hand, it costs 1 races to be somewhere without a mask, and you are guaranteed to become a carrier. Another problem is the environmental friendliness of space in the mask. If the mask is not changed daily, pathogenic viruses will develop in it with a high incidence, which we have in our breath, and in the environment (they were always present there, and the mask does not isolate 100%). So the conclusion is:
- You need to wear a mask
- You must follow the rules for wearing a mask
- The mask is not a panacea, but only risk reduction


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: darklus123 on February 18, 2021, 04:31:17 AM
Only an idiot doesn't believe in the virus lol...........
Only a idiot would put precedence of tel-lie-vision over science.
How many more scientific studies would you want in order for you to believe that it's real?

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No shortage of them in the world just yet.
Are you referring to the shortage of masks or your ideology? ???


The point here is that the virus is real and its danger for those people who have weak immune systems.

Not at all surprising to us who have followed the medical/industrial complex scams and crimes over the years.

I would not deny this fact as there really a lot of medical practitioners who are telling lies to its community which is completely unacceptable and should deeply be condemned.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: sky110 on February 18, 2021, 06:50:22 AM
Exciting topic and how does it connect with all of those bitcoin posts


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Tash on February 18, 2021, 07:13:08 AM
Only an idiot doesn't believe in the virus lol...........
Only a idiot would put precedence of tel-lie-vision over science.
How many more scientific studies would you want in order for you to believe that it's real?

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No shortage of them in the world just yet.
Are you referring to the shortage of masks or your ideology? ???


The point here is that the virus is real and its danger for those people who have weak immune systems.

Not at all surprising to us who have followed the medical/industrial complex scams and crimes over the years.

I would not deny this fact as there really a lot of medical practitioners who are telling lies to its community which is completely unacceptable and should deeply be condemned.
One link of its isolation is enough.
The only thing real is sick people, no-one to blame but themselves.
A strong immune system needs vitamins A, B6, B9, B12, C and D (Sun)  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5317019.msg56339490#msg56339490) Also the minerals zinc, selenium, iron and copper. Vitamin E to a lesser degree.
Most importantly wear a mask when you sit in front of your computer, it may have a virus.
Medical practitioners make money of sick people, more sick, more money.


Exciting topic and how does it connect with all of those bitcoin posts
Have you connected that this is the Politics & Society part of town?


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: tvbcof on February 18, 2021, 07:13:45 AM

Here's a tip for people who don't want to get mask-mouth, pneumonia, etc to badly.  I rarely go out and about because it is humiliating to have to bow to the creeps pushing the mask psy-op, but when I do, I wear cheap black '3-ply' mask with two of the layers snipped out.  They can even be torn out by hand.

https://shopx7.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/41WkZq4hL._AC_.jpg

The missing layers in the black masks are not very noticeable, so it might be possible for people who have to wear them or be fired to employ, though people in those kinds of jobs could probably be fired if the authorities found out.  I have on order some masks which are flat out mesh so I can show my disdain for the system if/when I wish to.  Another trick I use is to carry around an empty cup and pretend to be drinking as an excuse to have the mask down, but inevitably I forget my cup.

I have not been in one of the major malls with guards, sign-in sheets, temperature readers, etc, for over 3 months.  As much as possible I only buy from small stores, and if the staff is being lax with mask themselves and not harassing their customers, I strongly favor them for my shopping needs.

I've now got a bunch of people who will shop for me if asked.  I'm pretty well prepared to do a house arrest (in one of my houses or the other) for as long as needed when the no-vax-no-freedom rules kick in which is just a matter of time.



Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Vatimins on February 19, 2021, 01:30:04 PM
     I have already heard somewhat the same kind of thought somewhere. I just can't seem to recall where and when. But my usual response is that some protection is better than nothing. I mean, If you have people relying on you what would you do? If it is required when you go to work or get your daily needs/necessities what would you do? Would you not follow protocols then and cause toouch trouble that could've been avoided had you followed the protocols? Unless the higher ups does something about this, we small people can't do crap about it.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Tash on February 19, 2021, 02:09:14 PM
I see no reason to make myself sick.
Not properly exhausting CO2 will increase acid load in body. Access acid load from food (and mask).... is reason people are sick in first place, most are to ignorant.
I boycotted public transport and have not been in a large supermarket in a long long time.
No-one has the right to rule over someone unless consent is given. Will also never agree to a test. Inserting any object into any body orifice is rape.
Lets not even talk about bacterial infections once warm enough, when people sweat.  
I would instantly demand qualifications, schooling if someone would say something the way I wear my scarf.  
Germ theory after more than two hundred years is still a theory, nothing but a scam.

Good Boi
https://i.ibb.co/LSMTC2Z/Untitled-2.png (https://imgbb.com/)


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Natsuu on February 19, 2021, 04:27:48 PM
I see no reason to make myself sick.
Not properly exhausting CO2 will increase acid load in body. Access acid load from food (and mask).... is reason people are sick in first place, most are to ignorant.
I boycotted public transport and have not been in a large supermarket in a long long time.
No-one has the right to rule over someone unless consent is given. Will also never agree to a test. Inserting any object into any body orifice is rape.
Lets not even talk about bacterial infections once warm enough, when people sweat.  
I would instantly demand qualifications, schooling if someone would say something the way I wear my scarf.  
Germ theory after more than two hundred years is still a theory, nothing but a scam.


Even your very own existence is a theory. Universe is a theory, everything is a theory if you look at it philosophically so what's your point.

Wearing a mask is an act of selflessness to protect OTHERS from getting your virus.

And you look like the slim guy in the basement who doesn't go workout cause it seems that you didn't even tried wearing a face mask while working out, cause I did, and I can breathe normally and I'm still healthy. So your claims are theory to me, yet I'm following a simple protocol followed by different nations who doesn't state anything about "Not wearing a mask is freedom". Suck it up basement boy


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Pancho95 on February 20, 2021, 03:47:39 PM
Well for the young people maybe it is not toxic as for old people, but the point is that young people could be transmitter of covid. So if someone live with old people it could be disaster even though you are asymptomatic.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Tash on February 20, 2021, 05:47:22 PM
Well for the young people maybe it is not toxic as for old people, but the point is that young people could be transmitter of covid. So if someone live with old people it could be disaster even though you are asymptomatic.
Nothing but media, tel-lie-vision propaganda you jabber about. Same old wrong germ theory. Transmitting disease, not.
Dis-ease = your own wrong doing. Next time when I miss the nail and hit finger I transmit some of the pain, I see no reason only I shall suffer.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on February 20, 2021, 06:53:56 PM
Incorrect mask usage is toxic for everybody/anybody.

Check the warnings on the labels of the containers in which the masks come. Most of the warnings stress that the masks don't protect from any disease. How much less a bandana or simple face-shield?

Stupid slave people, screwed by their masters in government into believing all kinds of falsehoods.

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Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: DrBeer on February 20, 2021, 08:47:25 PM
Maybe a little not quite in the subject, but - there is a thought. I'll start a little from afar - as scientists say, human immunity is retained:
- from 1 to 6 months after the previous illness
- from 3 to 12 months (I could be wrong) after vaccination
What is the problem? Over time, after the development of an immune response (this means that the virus entering the body will be identified and destroyed by human immunity), over time, its weakening begins, i.e. the body begins to "forget" the distinctive features of the virus, and after a while there are so few carriers of antiviral information, about the penetrated virus causes the disease again, and the immune system cannot understand that the virus has entered the body.
The essence of the idea is that people after vaccination or after an illness and rehabilitation should refuse to wear a mask using disinfectants (active use). We get - a person has immunity, the situation guarantees the receipt of new doses of the virus, immunity is guaranteed to destroy it, "exercising" and strengthening, which leads to the prolongation of the immune memory and immune defense of the body? The slogan "don't buy masks" really fits here. What do you think ?


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Natsuu on February 21, 2021, 12:53:44 AM
Well for the young people maybe it is not toxic as for old people, but the point is that young people could be transmitter of covid. So if someone live with old people it could be disaster even though you are asymptomatic.
Nothing but media, tel-lie-vision propaganda you jabber about. Same old wrong germ theory. Transmitting disease, not.
Dis-ease = your own wrong doing. Next time when I miss the nail and hit finger I transmit some of the pain, I see no reason only I shall suffer.

Nothing but conspiracy, jabber jabber without any backing. Same old wrong germ theory.
Next time when I miss the nail and hit finger I transmit some of the pain, I see no reason only I shall suffer.

Incorrect mask usage is toxic for everybody/anybody.

Check the warnings on the labels of the containers in which the masks come. Most of the warnings stress that the masks don't protect from any disease. How much less a bandana or simple face-shield?

Stupid slave people, screwed by their masters in government into believing all kinds of falsehoods.

Cause it doesn't, it protects OTHERS from your pathogens. So if every person wears a mask in a room, then all of you are protecting one anothers from your own pathogens.

And for the bandana, it is less efficient from face mask, but it enables someone to have atleast some percent to be protected, but it is not recommended. And for the face shield, it protects the user from saliva that may have the virus. and it is an extra protection that needs to be wear with face mask.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on February 21, 2021, 01:16:17 AM
Well for the young people maybe it is not toxic as for old people, but the point is that young people could be transmitter of covid. So if someone live with old people it could be disaster even though you are asymptomatic.
Nothing but media, tel-lie-vision propaganda you jabber about. Same old wrong germ theory. Transmitting disease, not.
Dis-ease = your own wrong doing. Next time when I miss the nail and hit finger I transmit some of the pain, I see no reason only I shall suffer.

Nothing but conspiracy, jabber jabber without any backing. Same old wrong germ theory.
Next time when I miss the nail and hit finger I transmit some of the pain, I see no reason only I shall suffer.

Incorrect mask usage is toxic for everybody/anybody.

Check the warnings on the labels of the containers in which the masks come. Most of the warnings stress that the masks don't protect from any disease. How much less a bandana or simple face-shield?

Stupid slave people, screwed by their masters in government into believing all kinds of falsehoods.

Cause it doesn't, it protects OTHERS from your pathogens. So if every person wears a mask in a room, then all of you are protecting one anothers from your own pathogens.

And for the bandana, it is less efficient from face mask, but it enables someone to have atleast some percent to be protected, but it is not recommended. And for the face shield, it protects the user from saliva that may have the virus. and it is an extra protection that needs to be wear with face mask.


Since masks don't work to protect anybody, everything you say is bogus.

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Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: virasog on February 21, 2021, 09:29:27 AM

Since masks don't work to protect anybody, everything you say is bogus.

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Masks only protect the business of the people who are involved in the manufacturing of the masks  :D
Also many people earned a lot by only making the masks business in 2020.

Before Covid-19, no one wanted to wear the mask but now no one wants to take off the masks. How silly are the human beings.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Natsuu on February 21, 2021, 10:25:52 AM

Since masks don't work to protect anybody, everything you say is bogus.

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Masks only protect the business of the people who are involved in the manufacturing of the masks  :D
Also many people earned a lot by only making the masks business in 2020.

Before Covid-19, no one wanted to wear the mask but now no one wants to take off the masks. How silly are the human beings.

The silly things I can see is how selfish can you 2 be. But what do I expect from guys who lived in countries with large numbers of Covid Virus in place.

Well, you can come up with many excuses as you may, but you will never tarnish the reputations of us in countries who have somehow lowered and still lowering the cases with discipline and such.

(and by discipline, I'm saying about following protocols such as wearing masks and face shields, when you guys feel like you are allergic to it.)


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: MUHAMMAD NUR AMANAH on February 22, 2021, 07:35:39 AM
Wearing masks at the moment is mandatory for all of us to be out of doors or socialise because they are protective of us, but it would be useless if others aren't wearing masks, so let's get together and fight the corona virus together and really better prevent it than treat and maybe its effect masks for protection Preventing the transmission of the corona virus from simply wearing a non-toxic respiration. keeping your hands clean up. keeping us clean is all we have to do


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Tash on February 22, 2021, 07:57:53 AM
https://i.ibb.co/1LfG36j/Untitled-2.png (https://imgbb.com/) https://i.ibb.co/RTpCLvx/Untitled-2.png (https://imgbb.com/)


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on February 22, 2021, 02:54:28 PM
A friend works at a good-size grocery story, part of a medium sized grocery chain. They require their employees to wear masks. She has a medical problem with the masks. So, the company let her wear a face shield, instead. The other day I saw that they weren't requiring her to wear even the face shield. But all the rest of the employees had to wear masks... or wore them out of fear.

The Covid charade is collapsing.

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Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on February 22, 2021, 03:01:22 PM

Turned on my brain a long time ago. It told me to turn on my TV. Then I remembered that I could make my TV fly (remembered because my brain was turned on).

Do you want to see time fly? Throw your clock out the window.
Do you want to see a butterfly? Throw the butter out the window.
Do you want to see your TV fly? Be sure you have your flyswatter at hand... I mean, throw your TV out the window. Especially if you live in apartment complex. The landlord will clean up the mess. And maybe he won't figure out who made it.

 :D



A friend works at a good-size grocery story, part of a medium sized grocery chain. They require their employees to wear masks. She has a medical problem with the masks. So, the company let her wear a face shield, instead. The other day I saw that they weren't requiring her to wear even the face shield. But all the rest of the employees had to wear masks... or wore them out of fear.

The Covid charade is collapsing.

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Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Tash on February 23, 2021, 07:29:13 PM
OH WOW: North Dakota house passes bill making mask mandates IIIEGAL
https://themindshield.com/north-dakota-state-house-passes-bill-that-would-make-future-mask-mandates-illegal/


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Natsuu on February 27, 2021, 05:15:17 PM

I don't even know what to say, I'm amazed. WOW

Wearing a mask now disarms our own body of immune system. WOW.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on February 27, 2021, 06:13:57 PM

I don't even know what to say, I'm amazed. WOW

Wearing a mask now disarms our own body of immune system. WOW.

I don't know which humor is funnier... the humorous cartoon from Tash, or the fact that Natsuu doesn't understand humor.

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Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Natsuu on February 28, 2021, 11:49:52 AM

I don't even know what to say, I'm amazed. WOW

Wearing a mask now disarms our own body of immune system. WOW.

I don't know which humor is funnier... the humorous cartoon from Tash, or the fact that Natsuu doesn't understand humor.

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Or the fact that you don't understand how it works is humorous to me  ;)


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on March 03, 2021, 11:56:57 PM
https://i.ibb.co/1LfG36j/Untitled-2.png - https://i.ibb.co/RTpCLvx/Untitled-2.png


I don't even know what to say, I'm amazed. WOW

Wearing a mask now disarms our own body of immune system. WOW.

I don't know which humor is funnier... the humorous cartoon from Tash, or the fact that Natsuu doesn't understand humor.

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Or the fact that you don't understand how it works is humorous to me  ;)


But this Texas judge has it right.


Texas Judge rules against the CDC’s unconstitutional Eviction Moratorium Order (https://www.naturalnews.com/2021-03-02-texas-judge-rules-against-unconstitutional-cdc-eviction-moratorium-order.html#)



A Texas Judge has ruled against the CDC’s ongoing Eviction Moratorium Order, an unconstitutional government intervention that is creating a ticking time bomb of financial disasters.

In September of 2020, the Centers for Disease Control (CDC) gained sweeping new powers over people and property, as they claimed dominion over all private property and rental contracts in the US. The CDC enacted an Eviction Moratorium Order, barring landlords and housing authorities from filing eviction actions against tenants who were unable or unwilling to pay rent. The CDC made it a CRIME for property owners to evict a “covered person” whose income is below a government-appropriated threshold. Property owners were threatened with $250,000 fines and one year of imprisonment for evicting a “covered person.” The CDC’s order has only allowed governments to continue on with lock downs that harm people financially. The repercussions of the lock downs have not been fully realized yet because the federal government continues to intervene in compounding market issues that aren’t being allowed to self correct. The fallout from bad government policies and lock downs continues to be kicked further down the road.

CDC violates contractual law, holds property owners hostage

The CDC justifies their capricious overreach and abuse of power because it is more important to “slow the spread of covid-19” and keep people in place than it is to let the market work, with people working together and taking responsibility for their actions. With people held down in poverty, the government can continue to assert power over their lives, keeping them in lock down, in desperate financial situations, and in helpless mentalities.


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Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Tash on March 06, 2021, 07:50:58 AM
Science damn it
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7680614/

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Conclusion

The existing scientific evidences challenge the safety and efficacy of wearing facemask as preventive intervention for COVID-19. The data suggest that both medical and non-medical facemasks are ineffective to block human-to-human transmission of viral and infectious disease such SARS-CoV-2 and COVID-19, supporting against the usage of facemasks. Wearing facemasks has been demonstrated to have substantial adverse physiological and psychological effects. These include hypoxia, hypercapnia, shortness of breath, increased acidity and toxicity, activation of fear and stress response, rise in stress hormones, immunosuppression, fatigue, headaches, decline in cognitive performance, predisposition for viral and infectious illnesses, chronic stress, anxiety and depression. Long-term consequences of wearing facemask can cause health deterioration, developing and progression of chronic diseases and premature death. Governments, policy makers and health organizations should utilize prosper and scientific evidence-based approach with respect to wearing facemasks, when the latter is considered as preventive intervention for public health.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on March 06, 2021, 11:11:59 AM
People have been masking up for decades or hundreds of years for Halloween. All that happened was, they started to like the masks.

The best thing that happened to me with this mask thing is, I am finally realizing how beautiful women's eyes are.

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Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Natsuu on March 06, 2021, 11:23:07 AM
Science damn it
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7680614/

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Conclusion

The existing scientific evidences challenge the safety and efficacy of wearing facemask as preventive intervention for COVID-19. The data suggest that both medical and non-medical facemasks are ineffective to block human-to-human transmission of viral and infectious disease such SARS-CoV-2 and COVID-19, supporting against the usage of facemasks. Wearing facemasks has been demonstrated to have substantial adverse physiological and psychological effects. These include hypoxia, hypercapnia, shortness of breath, increased acidity and toxicity, activation of fear and stress response, rise in stress hormones, immunosuppression, fatigue, headaches, decline in cognitive performance, predisposition for viral and infectious illnesses, chronic stress, anxiety and depression. Long-term consequences of wearing facemask can cause health deterioration, developing and progression of chronic diseases and premature death. Governments, policy makers and health organizations should utilize prosper and scientific evidence-based approach with respect to wearing facemasks, when the latter is considered as preventive intervention for public health.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2468042720300117 (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2468042720300117)

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Masks alone, unless they are highly effective and nearly universal, may have only a small effect (but still nontrivial, in terms of absolute lives saved) in more severe epidemics, such as the ongoing epidemic in New York state. However, the relative benefit to general mask use may increase with other decreases in , such that masks can synergize with other public health measures. Thus, it is important that masks not be viewed as an alternative, but as a complement, to other public health control measures (including non-pharmaceutical interventions, such as social distancing, self-isolation etc.). Delaying mask adoption is also detrimental. These factors together indicate that even in areas or states where the COVID-19 burden is low (e.g. the Dakotas), early aggressive action that includes face masks may pay dividends.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on March 06, 2021, 11:36:53 AM
Science damn it
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7680614/

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Conclusion

The existing scientific evidences challenge the safety and efficacy of wearing facemask as preventive intervention for COVID-19. The data suggest that both medical and non-medical facemasks are ineffective to block human-to-human transmission of viral and infectious disease such SARS-CoV-2 and COVID-19, supporting against the usage of facemasks. Wearing facemasks has been demonstrated to have substantial adverse physiological and psychological effects. These include hypoxia, hypercapnia, shortness of breath, increased acidity and toxicity, activation of fear and stress response, rise in stress hormones, immunosuppression, fatigue, headaches, decline in cognitive performance, predisposition for viral and infectious illnesses, chronic stress, anxiety and depression. Long-term consequences of wearing facemask can cause health deterioration, developing and progression of chronic diseases and premature death. Governments, policy makers and health organizations should utilize prosper and scientific evidence-based approach with respect to wearing facemasks, when the latter is considered as preventive intervention for public health.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2468042720300117 (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2468042720300117)

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Masks alone, unless they are highly effective and nearly universal, may have only a small effect (but still nontrivial, in terms of absolute lives saved) in more severe epidemics, such as the ongoing epidemic in New York state. However, the relative benefit to general mask use may increase with other decreases in , such that masks can synergize with other public health measures. Thus, it is important that masks not be viewed as an alternative, but as a complement, to other public health control measures (including non-pharmaceutical interventions, such as social distancing, self-isolation etc.). Delaying mask adoption is also detrimental. These factors together indicate that even in areas or states where the COVID-19 burden is low (e.g. the Dakotas), early aggressive action that includes face masks may pay dividends.


So, who is it that has the bottom-line info about masks? Oh, yes. OSHA. The Occupational Safety and Health Administration, that protects people on the job from all kinds of unhealthy and unsafe working conditions.

There are all kinds of jobs out their where people work in dust of various kinds. OSHA has done thorough testing of masks, their benefits, and the detrimental side of them, as well. Let's hear from the mask professionals in OSHA - https://www.bitchute.com/video/nKU8JO1YPL6m/.

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Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Natsuu on March 06, 2021, 02:12:00 PM
Science damn it
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7680614/

Quote
Conclusion

The existing scientific evidences challenge the safety and efficacy of wearing facemask as preventive intervention for COVID-19. The data suggest that both medical and non-medical facemasks are ineffective to block human-to-human transmission of viral and infectious disease such SARS-CoV-2 and COVID-19, supporting against the usage of facemasks. Wearing facemasks has been demonstrated to have substantial adverse physiological and psychological effects. These include hypoxia, hypercapnia, shortness of breath, increased acidity and toxicity, activation of fear and stress response, rise in stress hormones, immunosuppression, fatigue, headaches, decline in cognitive performance, predisposition for viral and infectious illnesses, chronic stress, anxiety and depression. Long-term consequences of wearing facemask can cause health deterioration, developing and progression of chronic diseases and premature death. Governments, policy makers and health organizations should utilize prosper and scientific evidence-based approach with respect to wearing facemasks, when the latter is considered as preventive intervention for public health.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2468042720300117 (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2468042720300117)

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Masks alone, unless they are highly effective and nearly universal, may have only a small effect (but still nontrivial, in terms of absolute lives saved) in more severe epidemics, such as the ongoing epidemic in New York state. However, the relative benefit to general mask use may increase with other decreases in , such that masks can synergize with other public health measures. Thus, it is important that masks not be viewed as an alternative, but as a complement, to other public health control measures (including non-pharmaceutical interventions, such as social distancing, self-isolation etc.). Delaying mask adoption is also detrimental. These factors together indicate that even in areas or states where the COVID-19 burden is low (e.g. the Dakotas), early aggressive action that includes face masks may pay dividends.


So, who is it that has the bottom-line info about masks? Oh, yes. OSHA. The Occupational Safety and Health Administration, that protects people on the job from all kinds of unhealthy and unsafe working conditions.

There are all kinds of jobs out their where people work in dust of various kinds. OSHA has done thorough testing of masks, their benefits, and the detrimental side of them, as well. Let's hear from the mask professionals in OSHA - https://www.bitchute.com/video/nKU8JO1YPL6m/.

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So sorry, but I don't have time to transcribe the video you sent, but if it is about ineffectivity of face masks, then you didn't read the article and the quote  I mentioned above


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on March 06, 2021, 05:15:59 PM

So, who is it that has the bottom-line info about masks? Oh, yes. OSHA. The Occupational Safety and Health Administration, that protects people on the job from all kinds of unhealthy and unsafe working conditions.

There are all kinds of jobs out their where people work in dust of various kinds. OSHA has done thorough testing of masks, their benefits, and the detrimental side of them, as well. Let's hear from the mask professionals in OSHA - https://www.bitchute.com/video/nKU8JO1YPL6m/.

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So sorry, but I don't have time to transcribe the video you sent, but if it is about ineffectivity of face masks, then you didn't read the article and the quote  I mentioned above

That sounds kinda silly. What does me showing you a link to a video have to do with my reading of your article or not?

And why would you transcribe a video? Can't you just watch and/or listen to it? Or are you talking about transcribing Covid DNA? Does Covid even have any DNA?

Would you believe me if I said that I jumped to the moon last night... from a standing start? Of course not. Anybody can make a website like you showed. But if I showed you the proof of my jump, things would be different... just like things would be different if your website showed proof.

But the video I showed has logic built right in, logic that you can't deny if you want to be honest.

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Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Tash on March 11, 2021, 05:45:15 PM

Some uplifting develpment
Spain woman not wearing a mask, police want to arrest, everone takes mask off, police capitulate.  
We are many, this stops when WE say it does..
https://twitter.com/shockingtruth2/status/1368700661710348295
Some seem to have forgotten from where paycheque comes from


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on March 11, 2021, 06:15:32 PM
Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!


Make money! Sell 'em. Wear 'em, to show off your styles. Make more money wearing them.


Fauci says to wear two masks. Should have had the masks back in the Lone Ranger's day.


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Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Coinoplex on March 13, 2021, 04:31:53 AM
If the people who carry the virus are already around you, you are probably already infected.

If you are going to get a mask, get something like this:

https://images2.imgbox.com/22/31/GQ0wKUMR_o.jpg

The others are only toys.


Its not about how the mask looks like. Full face gas mask doesn’t necessarily mean protection, the filter need to be chosen correctly. Also wearing a gas mask and removing it is the important second part if your hands not clean then whatever you are trying to protect against is waiting for you inside your full face mask  :D


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: GeorgeJohn on March 13, 2021, 05:46:25 AM
Wearing mask is signs to keep off from contamination of corona virus, even though government have authorized people to put on face mask, at least it's in favour of us because if mistakenly we contact such disease our immune system will suffer it most, so encourage people who don't want to obey simple instructions to put on face mask or nose mask before going out because it's important to every living soul's.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on March 13, 2021, 06:03:44 AM
Wearing mask is signs to keep off from contamination of corona virus, even though government have authorized people to put on face mask, at least it's in favour of us because if mistakenly we contact such disease our immune system will suffer it most, so encourage people who don't want to obey simple instructions to put on face mask or nose mask before going out because it's important to every living soul's.

Peruse this website to find all kinds of info on Covid - https://www.bitchute.com/channel/okiFK5CwQrZS/. The masks are useless for Covid. However, they cause disease of their own if they are not worn in a professional way - which the public does not do.

Look in my signature area (below) for almost instant ways (Budesonide, Ivermectin not listed) to block Covid symptoms, so that you don't have to go to the hospital, and so that your body has the chance to get well on its own. Also, check out the loads of things that will get rid of Covid >>> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5252003.0.

Also, look at what the vaccines will do to you in the future if you use them >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJZxiNxYLpc&t=2128s. Download this one, because it's important, and Youtube is known for taking things like this down without notice.

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Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Natsuu on March 14, 2021, 03:54:36 AM
Wearing mask is signs to keep off from contamination of corona virus, even though government have authorized people to put on face mask, at least it's in favour of us because if mistakenly we contact such disease our immune system will suffer it most, so encourage people who don't want to obey simple instructions to put on face mask or nose mask before going out because it's important to every living soul's.

Peruse this website to find all kinds of info on Covid - https://www.bitchute.com/channel/okiFK5CwQrZS/. The masks are useless for Covid. However, they cause disease of their own if they are not worn in a professional way - which the public does not do.

Look in my signature area (below) for almost instant ways (Budesonide, Ivermectin not listed) to block Covid symptoms, so that you don't have to go to the hospital, and so that your body has the chance to get well on its own. Also, check out the loads of things that will get rid of Covid >>> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5252003.0.

Also, look at what the vaccines will do to you in the future if you use them >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJZxiNxYLpc&t=2128s. Download this one, because it's important, and Youtube is known for taking things like this down without notice.

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1. Masks provide a short of protection that it prevent saliva from coming out of someones mouth that may contains the virus. Mask won't prevent you from getting or spreading the virus completely, but it can help. That's what many studies suggests. Also do some preventive measures as you wear masks, like social distancing and face shield for more protection.

2. Youtube took down videos that spread misinformation, so that's why almost all of the video u're sending are being taken down.  ;)


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on March 14, 2021, 01:23:05 PM
Wearing mask is signs to keep off from contamination of corona virus, even though government have authorized people to put on face mask, at least it's in favour of us because if mistakenly we contact such disease our immune system will suffer it most, so encourage people who don't want to obey simple instructions to put on face mask or nose mask before going out because it's important to every living soul's.

Peruse this website to find all kinds of info on Covid - https://www.bitchute.com/channel/okiFK5CwQrZS/. The masks are useless for Covid. However, they cause disease of their own if they are not worn in a professional way - which the public does not do.

Look in my signature area (below) for almost instant ways (Budesonide, Ivermectin not listed) to block Covid symptoms, so that you don't have to go to the hospital, and so that your body has the chance to get well on its own. Also, check out the loads of things that will get rid of Covid >>> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5252003.0.

Also, look at what the vaccines will do to you in the future if you use them >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJZxiNxYLpc&t=2128s. Download this one, because it's important, and Youtube is known for taking things like this down without notice.

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1. Masks provide a short of protection that it prevent saliva from coming out of someones mouth that may contains the virus. Mask won't prevent you from getting or spreading the virus completely, but it can help. That's what many studies suggests. Also do some preventive measures as you wear masks, like social distancing and face shield for more protection.

2. Youtube took down videos that spread misinformation, so that's why almost all of the video u're sending are being taken down.  ;)

Youtube took down videos because they don't want the truth to come out any faster than necessary. Watch this video (17 minutes) for some awesomely unimportant CDC details. But start watching at 15 minutes if you don't want to waste time on the whole thing. Why 15 minutes? Because you will see just how ridiculous masks really are. https://www.bitchute.com/video/w4ajebnHdsg3/

This video is shorter, but it's way better... https://www.bitchute.com/video/rlWESmrijl8Q/.

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Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Mauser on March 15, 2021, 12:04:27 PM
I just heard that there is no need anymore to trow away older face masks. Unfortunately the Ffp2 can't be put in the washing Maschine, but we can still reuse them. If after one say of using them we leave them outside for u days they will be fine again. So instead of buying new face masks each week we could just switch around our older ones. And if we get 2 free masks per month we should. No real need to buy more of them.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on March 15, 2021, 02:32:55 PM
I just heard that there is no need anymore to trow away older face masks. Unfortunately the Ffp2 can't be put in the washing Maschine, but we can still reuse them. If after one say of using them we leave them outside for u days they will be fine again. So instead of buying new face masks each week we could just switch around our older ones. And if we get 2 free masks per month we should. No real need to buy more of them.

Right! Halloween is so much fun that now we are going to make it a 365-days a year event.

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Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Tash on March 17, 2021, 09:18:53 AM

One more time of fact checking
https://youtu.be/Mg6Ut0k7d3g


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Natsuu on March 17, 2021, 05:05:02 PM
I just heard that there is no need anymore to trow away older face masks. Unfortunately the Ffp2 can't be put in the washing Maschine, but we can still reuse them. If after one say of using them we leave them outside for u days they will be fine again. So instead of buying new face masks each week we could just switch around our older ones. And if we get 2 free masks per month we should. No real need to buy more of them.

Reusing comes with many risks, and exposing your mask in the sun to dry and let the mask breathe also exposes them from many other bacterias or virus and such.

Yes it can be reused but you need to do it cleanly and efficiently. Use things that will not contaminate the mask as the disposable masks are disposable for a reason.

Wearing mask is signs to keep off from contamination of corona virus, even though government have authorized people to put on face mask, at least it's in favour of us because if mistakenly we contact such disease our immune system will suffer it most, so encourage people who don't want to obey simple instructions to put on face mask or nose mask before going out because it's important to every living soul's.

Peruse this website to find all kinds of info on Covid - https://www.bitchute.com/channel/okiFK5CwQrZS/. The masks are useless for Covid. However, they cause disease of their own if they are not worn in a professional way - which the public does not do.

Look in my signature area (below) for almost instant ways (Budesonide, Ivermectin not listed) to block Covid symptoms, so that you don't have to go to the hospital, and so that your body has the chance to get well on its own. Also, check out the loads of things that will get rid of Covid >>> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5252003.0.

Also, look at what the vaccines will do to you in the future if you use them >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZJZxiNxYLpc&t=2128s. Download this one, because it's important, and Youtube is known for taking things like this down without notice.

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1. Masks provide a short of protection that it prevent saliva from coming out of someones mouth that may contains the virus. Mask won't prevent you from getting or spreading the virus completely, but it can help. That's what many studies suggests. Also do some preventive measures as you wear masks, like social distancing and face shield for more protection.

2. Youtube took down videos that spread misinformation, so that's why almost all of the video u're sending are being taken down.  ;)

Youtube took down videos because they don't want the truth to come out any faster than necessary. Watch this video (17 minutes) for some awesomely unimportant CDC details. But start watching at 15 minutes if you don't want to waste time on the whole thing. Why 15 minutes? Because you will see just how ridiculous masks really are. https://www.bitchute.com/video/w4ajebnHdsg3/

This video is shorter, but it's way better... https://www.bitchute.com/video/rlWESmrijl8Q/.

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I have watched many of those, and some of your videos are already contradicting one another before they're taken down.

Misinformation can lead to something more bothering than what you can imagine. It's like convincing a customer to hire an engineer that will build their house instead of hiring someone you know because their cheaper and "they know what they're doing".


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Toplistico.com on March 17, 2021, 05:39:46 PM
I wear a mask because I want to be a good citizen and so that the people around me feel safe and not disturbed by my presence. The reason someone uses a mask to protect himself from Covid-19 is still too absurd to me.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on March 17, 2021, 07:55:34 PM
I wear a mask because I want to be a good citizen and so that the people around me feel safe and not disturbed by my presence. The reason someone uses a mask to protect himself from Covid-19 is still too absurd to me.

I don't wear a mask so that people can see that I'm not laughing at them for wearing one... which I might be if I were wearing one. :D

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Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Tash on March 30, 2021, 06:41:18 AM

Contaminated FFP2 Masks
https://youtu.be/v-wray3Nkvw


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Mauser on March 30, 2021, 07:09:40 AM
I wear a mask because I want to be a good citizen and so that the people around me feel safe and not disturbed by my presence. The reason someone uses a mask to protect himself from Covid-19 is still too absurd to me.

That is very honorable. In my country it's still mandatory to wear a mask in public. Everybody is following the safety rules, if you would wear a mask than you would get fine. But somehow no one is trying to avoid ot
I got so used in my to see everybody with masks. And with all these mutations I don't think we will stop anytime soon.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: bitbollo on March 30, 2021, 07:18:28 AM
Youtube is not a educational qualification.

No there is nothing "incredible" on Youtube, since scientists prefer to publish on real journal (and not like click baiting).
Seriously speaking guys, with a serious issue, related to health you're going to check information on youtube? Made by some illiterate that doesn't understand the difference between VIRUS and HUMANS?

Some PEER REVIEWED paper about the arguments:
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-020-0843-2
https://www.pnas.org/content/118/4/e2014564118

Feel free to discuss science, and not a video made by some teenager....


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on March 30, 2021, 03:59:44 PM
Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!


Many of the places that I go to, offer a free face mask when I walk in the door. Why would I want to buy them.


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Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Natsuu on March 30, 2021, 04:17:50 PM
Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!


Many of the places that I go to, offer a free face mask when I walk in the door. Why would I want to buy them.


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Good point lmao HAHAHA, I hope our place offers the same tho


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on March 30, 2021, 04:25:26 PM
Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!


Many of the places that I go to, offer a free face mask when I walk in the door. Why would I want to buy them.


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Good point lmao HAHAHA, I hope our place offers the same tho

They just do this to keep mask-wearers happy, so they can sell more products.

Since wearing a mask doesn't generally harm anyone outside of the wearer, It doesn't hurt for store employees to wear the mask, except the employees, of course. And the employees are too dumb to sue the employers for damages, or to get a different job, or to start their own business/PMA.

So, making the employees wear masks brings in more money from the stupid mask-wearing-public. Besides, many of the mask-wearing-public will be dying off soon from getting vaccinated, or from wearing masks, so why not get some of their money before they go, right?

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Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: dongyi17 on March 31, 2021, 03:59:08 AM
It's not guarantee that you will not affected in COVID when you buy facemask or wear a facemask or face shield but I believe its lesser chances to get a virus when you exhale and inhale. or when people get sneeze of cough or has cold. In this case those who business sector benefit it the most like drugstore and other essential store. In our country wearing a mask is mandatory that's why we have no choice to buy facemask and wear it.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: DrBeer on March 31, 2021, 09:10:38 AM
In the title itself, the facts are immediately twisted :)
The mask does not heal or save you from infection. The task of the mask is to significantly reduce the likelihood of human infection in everyday life. Of course, you can not wear it. As a matter of fact - do not wash your hands after the street or before eating, you can not use condoms. Also why use sunscreen, why wear shoes after all, and many other preservative solutions in general. A lot of unnecessary actions and decisions surround us. Why use them - this is such nonsense ?! :)


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Tash on April 02, 2021, 05:55:30 AM
Modern War
Carbon-silicate nano fibers in swab tests and face masks are found in a lot of places.
Have a listen what neuroscientist Dr. James Giordano has to say, "the brain is the 21st century battlefield.."
https://youtu.be/8Wu89LXTmWs


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Natsuu on April 02, 2021, 11:02:00 AM
In the title itself, the facts are immediately twisted :)
The mask does not heal or save you from infection. The task of the mask is to significantly reduce the likelihood of human infection in everyday life. Of course, you can not wear it. As a matter of fact - do not wash your hands after the street or before eating, you can not use condoms. Also why use sunscreen, why wear shoes after all, and many other preservative solutions in general. A lot of unnecessary actions and decisions surround us. Why use them - this is such nonsense ?! :)

Because they are very eager to denounce the protocols for their "FREEDOM". LMAO


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on April 03, 2021, 04:55:19 PM
People all over the USA are starting to wake up to the fact of the uselessness and danger of masks. But there is a side effect that is happening in all of this. People are waking up to the fact that State governments, and the Federal, have very little authority to mandate lockdowns and wearing of masks. And the super- side effect is, that people are waking up to the fact that in the USA, government has very little authority to mandate anything for any individual. Corporations, yes, perhaps, in some ways and circumstances. Individual people and their families, no.


Wisconsin Supreme Court Strikes Down Governor's Mask Mandate (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/302201-2021-04-02-wisconsin-supreme-court-strikes-down-governors-mask-mandate.htm)



The state supreme court ruled that Evers violated the law by issuing multiple emergency orders requiring masks and circumventing the state legislature. The GOP-led Wisconsin senate last month voted 18-13 to repeal Evers' statewide mask mandate. -GEG

The conservative-leaning Wisconsin Supreme Court on Wednesday struck down Democrat Governor Tony Evers' statewide mask mandate in a 4-3 ruling.

The state supreme court ruled that Evers violated the law by unilaterally issuing multiple emergency orders and circumventing the state legislature.

"The question in this case is not whether the governor acted wisely; it is whether he acted lawfully. We conclude he did not," Justice Brian Hagedorn wrote for the majority.

Evers fought very hard to keep the mask mandate in place and ignored the will of the legislature, the body closest to the people that voted to repeal the mask mandate.


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Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Natsuu on April 04, 2021, 08:53:31 AM
People all over the USA are starting to wake up to the fact of the uselessness and danger of masks. But there is a side effect that is happening in all of this. People are waking up to the fact that State governments, and the Federal, have very little authority to mandate lockdowns and wearing of masks. And the super- side effect is, that people are waking up to the fact that in the USA, government has very little authority to mandate anything for any individual. Corporations, yes, perhaps, in some ways and circumstances. Individual people and their families, no.


Wisconsin Supreme Court Strikes Down Governor's Mask Mandate (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/302201-2021-04-02-wisconsin-supreme-court-strikes-down-governors-mask-mandate.htm)



The state supreme court ruled that Evers violated the law by issuing multiple emergency orders requiring masks and circumventing the state legislature. The GOP-led Wisconsin senate last month voted 18-13 to repeal Evers' statewide mask mandate. -GEG

The conservative-leaning Wisconsin Supreme Court on Wednesday struck down Democrat Governor Tony Evers' statewide mask mandate in a 4-3 ruling.

The state supreme court ruled that Evers violated the law by unilaterally issuing multiple emergency orders and circumventing the state legislature.

"The question in this case is not whether the governor acted wisely; it is whether he acted lawfully. We conclude he did not," Justice Brian Hagedorn wrote for the majority.

Evers fought very hard to keep the mask mandate in place and ignored the will of the legislature, the body closest to the people that voted to repeal the mask mandate.


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And as always its USA who done it. Good luck peeps


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: darklus123 on April 04, 2021, 11:43:02 AM
Some of us are really busy spreading different sides of the story. They call their selves as experts haha, why not live with your daily lives without wearing your so-called dumb thing (which is the mask).


If you got sick (maybe because of the coronavirus) We should tell the medical doctors to not believe in you since all of this is a joke in your perspective eh?

If you are really trying to debunk this so-called coronavirus first, you should have to be a licensed doctor or any other area of expertise in the medical field. Why is it needed? cause if not anyone can be medical experts just like your selves.

I am not saying tho that wearing a mask too often might get in you in trouble in the future. So either way, we hoomans only have two choices right it's either you die in covid or you die from wearing protective gear from covid.

In the end, we still die. is your point will still be important by that time? eeh! obviously not


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on April 04, 2021, 01:52:35 PM
Some of us are really busy spreading different sides of the story. They call their selves as experts haha, why not live with your daily lives without wearing your so-called dumb thing (which is the mask).


If you got sick (maybe because of the coronavirus) We should tell the medical doctors to not believe in you since all of this is a joke in your perspective eh?

If you are really trying to debunk this so-called coronavirus first, you should have to be a licensed doctor or any other area of expertise in the medical field. Why is it needed? cause if not anyone can be medical experts just like your selves.

I am not saying tho that wearing a mask too often might get in you in trouble in the future. So either way, we hoomans only have two choices right it's either you die in covid or you die from wearing protective gear from covid.

In the end, we still die. is your point will still be important by that time? eeh! obviously not

But the real point is, how do you find out what the doctors say? I mean, you aren't going make an appointment with 10,000 doctors to see what they all say, right? So, where do you find the info about what the doctors say. You listen to the media, right?

What media do you listen to. Maybe CNN or Youtube or Facebook or the newspaper or whatever is on TV, right? But what about the doctors that your standard media won't show?... mostly doctors who have figured out the truth, that the pandemic is mostly a hoax, can be controlled easily (they are doing it with their patients), could have been prevented with proper nutrition, and that the vaccine is way more dangerous than the disease.

Try these for starters - https://www.bitchute.com/channel/okiFK5CwQrZS/, https://www.bitchute.com/search/?query=andrew%20kaufman&kind=video, https://altcensored.com/watch?v=otRN0X6F81c, https://altcensored.com/search?q=america%27s+frontline+doctors.

Then expand your search for the rest of the story, from what these doctors have to say. Standard media and the doctors they espouse, are lying to you.

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Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: tvbcof on April 04, 2021, 03:26:01 PM
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If you are really trying to debunk this so-called coronavirus first, you should have to be a licensed doctor or any other area of expertise in the medical field. Why is it needed? cause if not anyone can be medical experts just like your selves.
...

Firstly, the only people who claimed to be 'experts' here on this forum are a few people who you simps believe to be doctors because they said so and copy/pasted some WHO text as advice.

Secondly, there are _thousands_ of doctors who say this whole charade, or big parts of it, are a sham.  I'm more inclinded to listen to them since they risk a lot to take that position and gain nothing from it.  As a matter of fact, most of the pro-covid people are un-named 'experts' invented by the mainstream media.

Thirdly, any 'doctor' who claims that 'herd immunity' can be had from a treatment which neither stops infections or transmissions is obviously a fraudulent liar or to stupid to listen to for advice on how to trim one's toenails.  That should be obvious to anyone.



Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: darklus123 on April 05, 2021, 10:14:38 AM
But the real point is, how do you find out what the doctors say? I mean, you aren't going make an appointment with 10,000 doctors to see what they all say, right? So, where do you find the info about what the doctors say. You listen to the media, right?

how did you also find out? I mean, you are not going to also be doing this right?
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you aren't going make an appointment with 10,000 doctors


If so you are believing the articles you saw on google that maybe just written by somebody else rather than medical experts?
I have been basing my point of view not just on mainstream media since I also don't trust them. However, I know somebody that died because of covid. I am not sure if you have known that before china is trying to filter out Covid cases back then. Then there was a doctor who said that it is true and nobody believes in him until that doctor died in china and covid has started to go berserk. I think you can find articles from this also not from the mainstream media. What is actually the point in here?


Then expand your search for the rest of the story, from what these doctors have to say. Standard media and the doctors they espouse, are lying to you.

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if you can't give me scientific proofs that covid is not true that is backed with papers from the medical experts. It will be impossible to change my point of view  :-\


Firstly, the only people who claimed to be 'experts' here on this forum are a few people who you simps believe to be doctors because they said so and copy/pasted some WHO text as advice.

Secondly, there are _thousands_ of doctors who say this whole charade, or big parts of it, are a sham.  I'm more inclinded to listen to them since they risk a lot to take that position and gain nothing from it.  As a matter of fact, most of the pro-covid people are un-named 'experts' invented by the mainstream media.

Thirdly, any 'doctor' who claims that 'herd immunity' can be had from a treatment which neither stops infections or transmissions is obviously a fraudulent liar or to stupid to listen to for advice on how to trim one's toenails.  That should be obvious to anyone.



First, the argument of saying that who cannot be trusted is actually quite true because again they covered china in the early 2020s that covid is not true and can be dealt with easily. After a lot of people died they started to get to their senses.

second, how about those doctors in the early stage of covid19 that have died trying to say to everyone that covid is real? should it be easier to believe in them rather than the thousands of doctors who actually are still alive? I mean, they are the very best example of this argument of yours
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I'm more inclinded to listen to them since they risk a lot to take that position and gain nothing from it.
third, if what you are saying is true can you back that up with a scientific study from a trusted source?


Edit: Also @badecker I don't have enough money to purchase the real answer for covid , I mean why would I buy it and why would I believe in it if it is just trying to sell off it's product rather than telling the real truth (for free? ouch i guess nothing real is free nowadays)
https://www.bitchute.com/search/?query=andrew%20kaufman&kind=video

also the doctor from your source is telling that covid is real ???
https://altcensored.com/watch?v=otRN0X6F81c


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: tvbcof on April 05, 2021, 10:30:00 AM

I'm more inclinded to listen to them since they risk a lot to take that position and gain nothing from it.

third, if what you are saying is true can you back that up with a scientific study from a trusted source?

Let me get this straight.  You are asking for a 'scientific study from a trusted source' that analyzes the hypothesis that doctors who play ball with Fausti, the CDC, the AMA, etc have a smother ride in their careers than do doctors who go against the grain and question some of the orthodoxy?  Is that really your demand?  Do you pay any attention to the real world at all?



Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on April 05, 2021, 02:50:08 PM
But the real point is, how do you find out what the doctors say? I mean, you aren't going make an appointment with 10,000 doctors to see what they all say, right? So, where do you find the info about what the doctors say. You listen to the media, right?

how did you also find out? I mean, you are not going to also be doing this right?
You are finally getting it. All of it is hearsay, right? Because you can find all kinds of doctors that say opposing things. And how do you know that they are doctors? It goes every which way for all of us.


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you aren't going make an appointment with 10,000 doctors


If so you are believing the articles you saw on google that maybe just written by somebody else rather than medical experts?
I have been basing my point of view not just on mainstream media since I also don't trust them. However, I know somebody that died because of covid. I am not sure if you have known that before china is trying to filter out Covid cases back then. Then there was a doctor who said that it is true and nobody believes in him until that doctor died in china and covid has started to go berserk. I think you can find articles from this also not from the mainstream media. What is actually the point in here?
How do you know that anybody died because of Covid? Do you mean that the police killed him/her because they didn't wear a mask?

If you mean the virus, how do you know that they didn't simply catch a bad cold, get the flu, and contract pneumonia all at the same time? And that's all anybody has. But some jokers are calling it something new >>> Covid. But they haven't even proven that they have isolated the Covid virus, yet. Everything that they have said they have done is hearsay, so far.

Whatever we hear around the world from China could easily be adjusted by their government. The doctor probably was shot by an undercover China cop, and they won't let the truth out.




Then expand your search for the rest of the story, from what these doctors have to say. Standard media and the doctors they espouse, are lying to you.

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if you can't give me scientific proofs that covid is not true that is backed with papers from the medical experts. It will be impossible to change my point of view  :-\
How does anybody give anybody proof of almost anything in a forum, when the one receiving won't take the time to verify the proof? But I'll come close, if you take the time to check it out.

If you check out the videos here - https://www.bitchute.com/channel/okiFK5CwQrZS/ - you will see the proof, even though you don't know it's the proof, yet.

If you sign up here - https://thehighwire.com/ - they will send you all the info about the, above, videos so that you can go talk to the doctors, themselves, and check out their real medical status with government to see that they really are doctors or other professionals.

If you go here - https://www.icandecide.org/ - you can actually find or get the paperwork that verifies the court actions that they talk about, so that you can go to the court records and see that they are real.

But if you don't do it, I can't prove it to you in a forum. They don't even let us post actual videos in here. So how am I going to get any doctor with his scalpel to cut anybody up in this forum?



Edit: Also @badecker I don't have enough money to purchase the real answer for covid , I mean why would I buy it and why would I believe in it if it is just trying to sell off it's product rather than telling the real truth (for free? ouch i guess nothing real is free nowadays)
https://www.bitchute.com/search/?query=andrew%20kaufman&kind=video
Few of us have enough money to purchase the real answer for Covid. But go to Youtube, and look at how many training videos there are for just about anything, where they show you the details of somebody making a this or a that, every step of the way. But you can't find even one video of somebody doing the isolation of a virus according to Koch's or Rivers' step-by-step processes, which would prove that they even knew what they were doing. Why not? This should be a priority if there is any Covid virus.

All they have is words upon words and more words that they did the isolation, with a few pictures thrown in for dazzle. Yet all the so-called isolations they did were open to contamination. And they know it. And they know that they know it. So, what they isolated could be anything.

So how could any of us have proof, one way or the other, that there is a virus? Sure, those doctors who tell us that Covid exists, they have something. But what is it, and where did it come from? They don't know. And we certainly don't.



also the doctor from your source is telling that covid is real ???
https://altcensored.com/watch?v=otRN0X6F81c

That's the point. Maybe there aren't any viruses at all! Maybe they are simply parts of our own bodies that come out of us... called exosomes. They are so tiny that we can't see them. But if they find one in a bunch of filtered air, where did it come from? They might have some good guesses, but they haven't proven anything. But if they proved it, they haven't shown us the proof, or even a viable process.

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Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: darklus123 on April 06, 2021, 11:26:04 AM

Let me get this straight.  You are asking for a 'scientific study from a trusted source' that analyzes the hypothesis that doctors who play ball with Fausti, the CDC, the AMA, etc have a smother ride in their careers than do doctors who go against the grain and question some of the orthodoxy?  Is that really your demand?  

I am not sure if you know this guy 'Dr Li Wenliang'. I think he is one of the few doctors before who are trying to tell us the truth when Chinese government is trying to lie to everyone that there is no such disease (which we call covid-19 right now). Guess what? everyone during that time does not believe in him until china can no longer lie about the situation.

Do you pay any attention to the real world at all?
Of course, I do. how about you have you? did you open your mind about the possibilities or you are 100% sure that it isn't real? if you do then there is no point in arguing with you about this matter. Every expert is giving their best to study this case to provide better information and yet those who were just sitting their asses at home are enjoying the excitement of the opposite side of the story.


So how could any of us have proof, one way or the other, that there is a virus? Sure, those doctors who tell us that Covid exists, they have something. But what is it, and where did it come from? They don't know. And we certainly don't.
Are the scientific studies being shared online for free isn't enough proof? What kind of proof will satisfy your question?

Few of us have enough money to purchase the real answer for Covid
I am sorry but why would I believe in a person who has the knowledge about something but instead of telling the truth to everybody for free. In my opinion, this type of people can't be trusted because they are taking advantage of the current situation for their personal benefits. I can't believe why did you think that it is a good source at all.


That's the point. Maybe there aren't any viruses at all! Maybe they are simply parts of our own bodies that come out of us... called exosomes. They are so tiny that we can't see them. But if they find one in a bunch of filtered air, where did it come from? They might have some good guesses, but they haven't proven anything. But if they proved it, they haven't shown us the proof, or even a viable process.

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Sure I will try to understand your sources. Yet if you are going to tell me "maybe" regardless of all the free data that is being contributed by the world. If so are you telling me that all the doctors and all the government are lying to us? Is testing also all lies? Does this mean that the "scientists" behind the studies are idiots and lying to us?

Or will the opposing doctor's claim will remain as a conspiracy theory that guys like you are enjoying a lot? I can still remember before the first conspiracy that went viral. That covid-19 is not real and the person behind covid-19 is bill gates who were trying to sell vaccines (sounds interesting right?)


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on April 06, 2021, 10:48:25 PM
So how could any of us have proof, one way or the other, that there is a virus? Sure, those doctors who tell us that Covid exists, they have something. But what is it, and where did it come from? They don't know. And we certainly don't.
Are the scientific studies being shared online for free isn't enough proof? What kind of proof will satisfy your question?

Few of us have enough money to purchase the real answer for Covid
I am sorry but why would I believe in a person who has the knowledge about something but instead of telling the truth to everybody for free. In my opinion, this type of people can't be trusted because they are taking advantage of the current situation for their personal benefits. I can't believe why did you think that it is a good source at all.


That's the point. Maybe there aren't any viruses at all! Maybe they are simply parts of our own bodies that come out of us... called exosomes. They are so tiny that we can't see them. But if they find one in a bunch of filtered air, where did it come from? They might have some good guesses, but they haven't proven anything. But if they proved it, they haven't shown us the proof, or even a viable process.

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Sure I will try to understand your sources. Yet if you are going to tell me "maybe" regardless of all the free data that is being contributed by the world. If so are you telling me that all the doctors and all the government are lying to us? Is testing also all lies? Does this mean that the "scientists" behind the studies are idiots and lying to us?

Or will the opposing doctor's claim will remain as a conspiracy theory that guys like you are enjoying a lot? I can still remember before the first conspiracy that went viral. That covid-19 is not real and the person behind covid-19 is bill gates who were trying to sell vaccines (sounds interesting right?)

Viruses are theory. Dr Andrew Kaufman among many other professionals show us why, and what the virus idea really is - https://www.bitchute.com/search/?query=dr.%20andrew%20kaufman&kind=video OR https://andrewkaufmanmd.com/. And once you watch the videos, you will find many words that you can use to search for other professionals.

But I will say it simply. Two reasons:
1. There are all kinds of other critters, non-viruses, that could be what's claimed to be viruses. Dr. Kaufman explains why they are exosomes, that come right out of our own cells, created by our body;
2. We aren't back in the early 1900s. We are here in the 2020s. Videos are everything. You can find videos of doctors performing all kinds of operations and procedures... of women giving live birth. Why aren't there any in-process videos - or even written notes - of somebody doing an actual isolation of Covid (other viruses?) using Koch's or Rivers' Postulates, the best procedures for finding uncontaminated virus proof... if there are any viruses?

The whole method for finding viruses these days, actually do find something. But what it is is unknown, and could easily be contaminated forms of something else.

8)


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Tash on April 07, 2021, 06:22:42 AM

Oh Those Masks? They’ve Been Poisoning You Too. Canada Recalls Masks Over Lung Damage Concerns
https://coronanews123.wordpress.com/2021/04/07/oh-those-masks-theyve-been-poisoning-you-too-canada-recalls-masks-over-lung-damage-concerns/


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Natsuu on April 07, 2021, 04:55:09 PM

Oh Those Masks? They’ve Been Poisoning You Too. Canada Recalls Masks Over Lung Damage Concerns
https://coronanews123.wordpress.com/2021/04/07/oh-those-masks-theyve-been-poisoning-you-too-canada-recalls-masks-over-lung-damage-concerns/

Do you wear it while you sleep?  ??? HAHAHAHAHA

Wear it properly, and be smart. Use your logical skills and thinking on when you would wear the masks -_-


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on April 07, 2021, 05:30:13 PM

Oh Those Masks? They’ve Been Poisoning You Too. Canada Recalls Masks Over Lung Damage Concerns
https://coronanews123.wordpress.com/2021/04/07/oh-those-masks-theyve-been-poisoning-you-too-canada-recalls-masks-over-lung-damage-concerns/

Do you wear it while you sleep?  ??? HAHAHAHAHA

Wear it properly, and be smart. Use your logical skills and thinking on when you would wear the masks -_-

He only wears it when it can produce harmful nano-fibers that attack the lungs... which is anytime/whenever. More than likely the masks are giving off harmful nano-fibers into the atmosphere, every time they are taken out of their plastic container.

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Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Natsuu on April 09, 2021, 05:03:10 PM

Oh Those Masks? They’ve Been Poisoning You Too. Canada Recalls Masks Over Lung Damage Concerns
https://coronanews123.wordpress.com/2021/04/07/oh-those-masks-theyve-been-poisoning-you-too-canada-recalls-masks-over-lung-damage-concerns/

Do you wear it while you sleep?  ??? HAHAHAHAHA

Wear it properly, and be smart. Use your logical skills and thinking on when you would wear the masks -_-

He only wears it when it can produce harmful nano-fibers that attack the lungs... which is anytime/whenever. More than likely the masks are giving off harmful nano-fibers into the atmosphere, every time they are taken out of their plastic container.

8)

Nano fibers that attacks the lungs?, oh god, so medical workers are all having lung disease huh? I guess nobody in medical field can live longer than 40 years old if they all wear masks and get lung diseases. HUHUHUHU sad to be a medical frontliner.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on April 09, 2021, 11:58:02 PM

Oh Those Masks? They’ve Been Poisoning You Too. Canada Recalls Masks Over Lung Damage Concerns
https://coronanews123.wordpress.com/2021/04/07/oh-those-masks-theyve-been-poisoning-you-too-canada-recalls-masks-over-lung-damage-concerns/

Do you wear it while you sleep?  ??? HAHAHAHAHA

Wear it properly, and be smart. Use your logical skills and thinking on when you would wear the masks -_-

He only wears it when it can produce harmful nano-fibers that attack the lungs... which is anytime/whenever. More than likely the masks are giving off harmful nano-fibers into the atmosphere, every time they are taken out of their plastic container.

8)

Nano fibers that attacks the lungs?, oh god, so medical workers are all having lung disease huh? I guess nobody in medical field can live longer than 40 years old if they all wear masks and get lung diseases. HUHUHUHU sad to be a medical frontliner.

That's why doctors smoke, even though they know smoking is hazardous to your health. They're trying to burn out the nano-fibers out of their lungs.

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Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Natsuu on April 10, 2021, 06:19:48 PM

Oh Those Masks? They’ve Been Poisoning You Too. Canada Recalls Masks Over Lung Damage Concerns
https://coronanews123.wordpress.com/2021/04/07/oh-those-masks-theyve-been-poisoning-you-too-canada-recalls-masks-over-lung-damage-concerns/

Do you wear it while you sleep?  ??? HAHAHAHAHA

Wear it properly, and be smart. Use your logical skills and thinking on when you would wear the masks -_-

He only wears it when it can produce harmful nano-fibers that attack the lungs... which is anytime/whenever. More than likely the masks are giving off harmful nano-fibers into the atmosphere, every time they are taken out of their plastic container.

8)

Nano fibers that attacks the lungs?, oh god, so medical workers are all having lung disease huh? I guess nobody in medical field can live longer than 40 years old if they all wear masks and get lung diseases. HUHUHUHU sad to be a medical frontliner.

That's why doctors smoke, even though they know smoking is hazardous to your health. They're trying to burn out the nano-fibers out of their lungs.

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Wow so its necessary for every doctors to smoke, so it is essential. How about those doctors who doesn't smoke?

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/1812944 (https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jama/fullarticle/1812944)
Quote
Smoking by health care professionals is a barrier to tobacco interventions with patients.1 From 2003 to 2006-2007,2 smoking prevalences among health care professionals demonstrated no significant declines, with the highest prevalence among licensed practical nurses (20.55%) and the lowest prevalence among physicians (2.31%). With the release of 2010-2011 data, we updated these findings to assess changes in smoking status.

But according to these data, it seems that there are much fewer smokers that non-smoker among medical personnels. Im deeply saddened about the number of medical personnels that will die from "NANO FIBERS" because they don't smoke.

LMAO


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on April 11, 2021, 07:34:07 PM

Oh Those Masks? They’ve Been Poisoning You Too. Canada Recalls Masks Over Lung Damage Concerns
https://coronanews123.wordpress.com/2021/04/07/oh-those-masks-theyve-been-poisoning-you-too-canada-recalls-masks-over-lung-damage-concerns/

Do you wear it while you sleep?  ??? HAHAHAHAHA

Wear it properly, and be smart. Use your logical skills and thinking on when you would wear the masks -_-

He only wears it when it can produce harmful nano-fibers that attack the lungs... which is anytime/whenever. More than likely the masks are giving off harmful nano-fibers into the atmosphere, every time they are taken out of their plastic container.

8)

Nano fibers that attacks the lungs?, oh god, so medical workers are all having lung disease huh? I guess nobody in medical field can live longer than 40 years old if they all wear masks and get lung diseases. HUHUHUHU sad to be a medical frontliner.

You're finally getting the idea, even if your figures are a bit off.

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Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: darklus123 on April 12, 2021, 01:50:57 PM

Viruses are theory. Dr Andrew Kaufman among many other professionals show us why, and what the virus idea really is - https://www.bitchute.com/search/?query=dr.%20andrew%20kaufman&kind=video OR https://andrewkaufmanmd.com/. And once you watch the videos, you will find many words that you can use to search for other professionals.

But I will say it simply. Two reasons:
1. There are all kinds of other critters, non-viruses, that could be what's claimed to be viruses. Dr. Kaufman explains why they are exosomes, that come right out of our own cells, created by our body;
2. We aren't back in the early 1900s. We are here in the 2020s. Videos are everything. You can find videos of doctors performing all kinds of operations and procedures... of women giving live birth. Why aren't there any in-process videos - or even written notes - of somebody doing an actual isolation of Covid (other viruses?) using Koch's or Rivers' Postulates, the best procedures for finding uncontaminated virus proof... if there are any viruses?

The whole method for finding viruses these days, actually do find something. But what it is is unknown, and could easily be contaminated forms of something else.

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I'm sorry but I think I have to end my conversation here for the following reasons:
1. your source is really not convincing. 
2. exosomes and covid-19 may have similarities but obviously, there are many more different aspects. (you can do your research as well to why this two are not the same and not just believed a single doctor whom without studying it properly take it's position to say that covid-19 does not exist because of the said similarities). Maybe you can check this part (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UY4pJaGJgkA&t=1701s)
3.https://andrewkaufmanmd.com/privacy-policy/  I think your source is becoming a naturopath (unscientific expert?) So all the claims are said unscientifically?
4. you need to do a lot more research based on facts instead of concluding because of a single , few statements without proper evidences.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on April 12, 2021, 04:06:13 PM

Viruses are theory. Dr Andrew Kaufman among many other professionals show us why, and what the virus idea really is - https://www.bitchute.com/search/?query=dr.%20andrew%20kaufman&kind=video OR https://andrewkaufmanmd.com/. And once you watch the videos, you will find many words that you can use to search for other professionals.

But I will say it simply. Two reasons:
1. There are all kinds of other critters, non-viruses, that could be what's claimed to be viruses. Dr. Kaufman explains why they are exosomes, that come right out of our own cells, created by our body;
2. We aren't back in the early 1900s. We are here in the 2020s. Videos are everything. You can find videos of doctors performing all kinds of operations and procedures... of women giving live birth. Why aren't there any in-process videos - or even written notes - of somebody doing an actual isolation of Covid (other viruses?) using Koch's or Rivers' Postulates, the best procedures for finding uncontaminated virus proof... if there are any viruses?

The whole method for finding viruses these days, actually do find something. But what it is is unknown, and could easily be contaminated forms of something else.

8)

I'm sorry but I think I have to end my conversation here for the following reasons:
1. your source is really not convincing.  
2. exosomes and covid-19 may have similarities but obviously, there are many more different aspects. (you can do your research as well to why this two are not the same and not just believed a single doctor whom without studying it properly take it's position to say that covid-19 does not exist because of the said similarities). Maybe you can check this part (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UY4pJaGJgkA&t=1701s)
3.https://andrewkaufmanmd.com/privacy-policy/  I think your source is becoming a naturopath (unscientific expert?) So all the claims are said unscientifically?
4. you need to do a lot more research based on facts instead of concluding because of a single , few statements without proper evidences.


1. The source was meant to be a starter for doing research in this direction.

2. Your video talks about things referring to vaccines from the standpoint that they exist as explained by standard medical and science. It doesn't have anything to do with any kind of isolating of the virus to see that it really exists at all. Further, it doesn't talk about where it comes from with science explanations regarding the actual doing of the isolating. Your video DOES say now and again, that we really don't know. - In other words, the two videos are talking about different things.

3. If you look closely, Dr. Kaufman is simply saying, Where's the proof that virus isolation was done? He is also saying words to the effect of, Since exosomes look like, and seem to have, the same structures as viruses, where's the proof that the things that we know as viruses are not simply exosomes that have been expelled from the body - perhaps becoming rogue exosomes? Since you can't watch viruses jumping around through the air, all the info about where they come from and how they get there are are like guesstimations.

4. Absolutely. But so do you. And that is what Dr. Kaufman is looking for. Let me state it again... look at these points. Koch's and Rivers' Postulates are the basic, simplest, methods for isolating a virus. Nowadays everybody is infatuated with videos... and there were always lab experiment notebooks. Covid is important, right? Then why aren't there any lab notebooks and videos of researchers in-process doing virus isolation, especially in this time of pandemic, regarding the Covid virus? If you find some, Dr. Kaufman would love to see them.

We would really like to know what Covid is. So, please find some of these videos for us if they exist. Or at least the lab notebook record of the isolation as it is being done. If nobody can find any, we have to assume that the whole story about viruses are simply made up science fiction.

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EDIT: The microsphere nanoscope was invented in 2011. It can view objects at least as small as 50nm (nano-meters)... easily strong enough to see exosomes and viruses. It can actually watch living exosomes and viruses inside the tissues that are holding them. Why in the last ten years haven't we seen clear videos of exosomes and viruses in living cells? I know that are some. But the point is, maybe they are being withheld somewhat, because science and the medical have found out what really goes on with exosomes and so-called viruses. And letting these pictures and this knowledge out into the public would simply destroy modern medicine's understanding of viruses, and take down the whole field of medicine... because medicine is almost entirely built on wrong assumptions.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Natsuu on April 14, 2021, 04:52:55 PM

Oh Those Masks? They’ve Been Poisoning You Too. Canada Recalls Masks Over Lung Damage Concerns
https://coronanews123.wordpress.com/2021/04/07/oh-those-masks-theyve-been-poisoning-you-too-canada-recalls-masks-over-lung-damage-concerns/

Do you wear it while you sleep?  ??? HAHAHAHAHA

Wear it properly, and be smart. Use your logical skills and thinking on when you would wear the masks -_-

He only wears it when it can produce harmful nano-fibers that attack the lungs... which is anytime/whenever. More than likely the masks are giving off harmful nano-fibers into the atmosphere, every time they are taken out of their plastic container.

8)

Nano fibers that attacks the lungs?, oh god, so medical workers are all having lung disease huh? I guess nobody in medical field can live longer than 40 years old if they all wear masks and get lung diseases. HUHUHUHU sad to be a medical frontliner.

You're finally getting the idea, even if your figures are a bit off.

8)

Ohhh nice, hail the frontliners for risking their daily lives wearing face mask, even though NANO FIBERS are killing them.

How about the surgeons who wear masks for 6-24 hours a day... whooosh scaryyyyyy


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on April 15, 2021, 03:11:55 AM

You're finally getting the idea, even if your figures are a bit off.

8)

Ohhh nice, hail the frontliners for risking their daily lives wearing face mask, even though NANO FIBERS are killing them.

How about the surgeons who wear masks for 6-24 hours a day... whooosh scaryyyyyy

Not really so scary. The surgeons know what they are doing. If they want the risks, that's up to them.

The sooner the surgeons all die off, the sooner people will have to get well from nutrition, and the sooner the medical will collapse, and people will live.

8)


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Natsuu on April 16, 2021, 03:55:11 PM

You're finally getting the idea, even if your figures are a bit off.

8)

Ohhh nice, hail the frontliners for risking their daily lives wearing face mask, even though NANO FIBERS are killing them.

How about the surgeons who wear masks for 6-24 hours a day... whooosh scaryyyyyy

Not really so scary. The surgeons know what they are doing. If they want the risks, that's up to them.

The sooner the surgeons all die off, the sooner people will have to get well from nutrition, and the sooner the medical will collapse, and people will live.


Yeah, I don't know why medicine was invested, but I don't think it is because of unforeseen deaths of the many, and "Uncurable diseases" that is curable right now.

Medicine is useless indeed, especially if you have diabetes, dengue, malaria, Tuberculosis, etc. whoosh


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on April 16, 2021, 05:04:33 PM

You're finally getting the idea, even if your figures are a bit off.

8)

Ohhh nice, hail the frontliners for risking their daily lives wearing face mask, even though NANO FIBERS are killing them.

How about the surgeons who wear masks for 6-24 hours a day... whooosh scaryyyyyy

Not really so scary. The surgeons know what they are doing. If they want the risks, that's up to them.

The sooner the surgeons all die off, the sooner people will have to get well from nutrition, and the sooner the medical will collapse, and people will live.


Yeah, I don't know why medicine was invested, but I don't think it is because of unforeseen deaths of the many, and "Uncurable diseases" that is curable right now.

Medicine is useless indeed, especially if you have diabetes, dengue, malaria, Tuberculosis, etc. whoosh

If medicine tells you that you have "diabetes, dengue, malaria, Tuberculosis, etc.," there's a good chance that you don't. Why? Because the methods for determining such, although they use some science, are also anecdotal. And Fauci says no-no to anecdotal.

Medicine started out as healthy people who used naturopathy on themselves - a "witch" - to lovingly heal people who were sick... for free. Money was freely given by the happy people who were healed - donations... now and again.

The naturopaths started charging for services. Then they wanted more money, and the beginnings of modern medicine started. They looked to the alchemists for a further knowledge of what was really going on in nature. They messed up their love by doing this.

8)


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Natsuu on April 17, 2021, 06:20:34 PM

You're finally getting the idea, even if your figures are a bit off.

8)

Ohhh nice, hail the frontliners for risking their daily lives wearing face mask, even though NANO FIBERS are killing them.

How about the surgeons who wear masks for 6-24 hours a day... whooosh scaryyyyyy

Not really so scary. The surgeons know what they are doing. If they want the risks, that's up to them.

The sooner the surgeons all die off, the sooner people will have to get well from nutrition, and the sooner the medical will collapse, and people will live.


Yeah, I don't know why medicine was invested, but I don't think it is because of unforeseen deaths of the many, and "Uncurable diseases" that is curable right now.

Medicine is useless indeed, especially if you have diabetes, dengue, malaria, Tuberculosis, etc. whoosh

If medicine tells you that you have "diabetes, dengue, malaria, Tuberculosis, etc.," there's a good chance that you don't. Why? Because the methods for determining such, although they use some science, are also anecdotal. And Fauci says no-no to anecdotal.

Medicine started out as healthy people who used naturopathy on themselves - a "witch" - to lovingly heal people who were sick... for free. Money was freely given by the happy people who were healed - donations... now and again.

The naturopaths started charging for services. Then they wanted more money, and the beginnings of modern medicine started. They looked to the alchemists for a further knowledge of what was really going on in nature. They messed up their love by doing this.

8)

Why do you believe in FAUCI in the first place? are you a fan? a believer?, is he your god? he's been wrong many times yet you still believed in everything he says. hence says all about your belief system.

The methods of determining these has been proved and as evidence, the medication for specific cases had been working for years.

BOOMER


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on April 17, 2021, 07:14:42 PM

Why do you believe in FAUCI in the first place? are you a fan? a believer?, is he your god? he's been wrong many times yet you still believed in everything he says. hence says all about your belief system. - I agree. Why does anybody believe Fauci? Wealth doesn't make somebody worth his weight. Often, wealth only shows how clever they are at taking advantage of other people. So, why do YOU believe in Fauci?

The methods of determining these has been proved and as evidence, the medication for specific cases had been working for years. - Other medicines might work better. You can tell by how many time a doctor changes a person's prescription for the same malady.

BOOMER - Some people bang knuckles. Some people bump elbows. Many simply shake hands as usual. But in the forum, we can't bang or bump or even shake. So, I'll play your game once... BOOMER.


Here's the real reason for masks. But this isn't the only way to say it.


Face Masks & Courage: Is Family Your Excuse for Cowardice... (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/302977-2021-04-17-face-masks-courage-is-family-your-excuse-for-cowardice.htm)



Quote from: Face Masks & Courage: Is Family Your Excuse for Cowardice...
Parents used to stand up in life for the benefit of their kids. They realized that no matter how much money they left their kids, the inheritance of freedom was worth so much more to a child than the dollars and cents a parent could leave behind.

Today so many parents make their child an excuse for why they refuse to stand up in life, and they say they are keeping their lips zipped BECAUSE of their child. They are doing it BECAUSE of their child they say.

That's not okay.

A Kentucky soccer coach who refused to go masked and refused to enforce the mask didn't keep quiet because of his daughter. He stood up because of his daughter. He lost his coveted position as a result.

But because of his courage, he is also the father of the only soccer player in the county who plays without a mask.

The father who wrote me from Arizona didn't back down from his values because of his kids. No he doubled down. A decorated teacher, when the lockdowns began he didn't put on his mask and mask his two sons. No, he quit his job, pulled his two sons out of school and now homeschools them, a far more nurturing environment for all three of them.

These are heroes of 2020, not the 16-year-old Trader Joe's bag boy yelling at his 60-year-old elders to mask up, emboldened by the unhealthy public health dictates and the trillion dollar media machine that wants to sell us all manner of bad ideas.

These parents are the leaders of 2020, not the chattering classes who go on guilt-filled tirades in the media, trying to get regular folks to do the most irregular and unnatural things: such as placing a ten-cent polypropylene mask from Wuhan province on their kids faces and calling that normal, or letting a child be put on house arrest and calling that "lockdown" normal, or letting the public health bureaucrats know that every weird experiment on their child that a bureaucrat could possibly come up with is an experiment that your family will willingly sacrifice their youngest and most precious to.

...


8)


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on April 18, 2021, 03:50:09 AM
Oh, the games that the public plays with their government. Is Trick or Treat over yet? Lol :D


[Face]Masks Are Nothing but Dress Code Loyalty Oaths to Governments (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/302970-2021-04-17-masks-are-nothing-but-dress-code-loyalty-oaths-to-governments.htm)



The Centers for Disease Control released another study showing no statistically significant decrease in "daily case" or "death growth" rates from COVID-19 in areas with mask mandates.  This comes after a similar CDC study in October indicated that mask mandates do not appear to have slowed or stopped the spread of the coronavirus at all.  Still, the CDC continues to recommend that all Americans wear masks, except in certain private settings when individuals are fully vaccinated, unless the goalpost-shifting Dr. Fauci gets his way.

This whole "masks don't seem to be having much effect, but wear them anyway" bureaucratic calculus may seem like a frivolous controversy to Americans preoccupied with the pandemic, but for Americans who are equally worried about the State's steady encroachment into the lives of families, mask mandates are the worst kind of noxious administrative abuse — another iteration of government coercion that constricts a person's freedom while accomplishing next to nothing.  It's government rule-making for the sake of rule-making whose chief purpose is to demonstrate that it is the government's job to command and each citizen's duty to readily obey.

Mask mandates are the perfect metaphor for a government that demands obedience:

Mask mandates are reminiscent of Barack Obama's belief that wealthy Americans should be taxed at higher rates, even if the imposition of those new taxes produces no net benefit for the federal treasury.  By his own admission, Obama's insistence on increasing taxes for wealthy Americans was not about generating government revenue or reducing government debt, but rather about punishing individual Americans for having acquired too much personal wealth.  It was a way for Obama to prove that he takes income inequality seriously while doing nothing about it.


8)


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: virasog on April 18, 2021, 05:36:51 AM

You're finally getting the idea, even if your figures are a bit off.

8)

Ohhh nice, hail the frontliners for risking their daily lives wearing face mask, even though NANO FIBERS are killing them.

How about the surgeons who wear masks for 6-24 hours a day... whooosh scaryyyyyy

Not really so scary. The surgeons know what they are doing. If they want the risks, that's up to them.

The sooner the surgeons all die off, the sooner people will have to get well from nutrition, and the sooner the medical will collapse, and people will live.

8)

If people become healthy and start living on natural nutrition's, then how will the doctors live ?

The things will become more scary when vaccine and all these stuff will become mandatory and it will make healthy people sick too. How bad  ???


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on April 20, 2021, 12:28:14 AM

You're finally getting the idea, even if your figures are a bit off.

8)

Ohhh nice, hail the frontliners for risking their daily lives wearing face mask, even though NANO FIBERS are killing them.

How about the surgeons who wear masks for 6-24 hours a day... whooosh scaryyyyyy

Not really so scary. The surgeons know what they are doing. If they want the risks, that's up to them.

The sooner the surgeons all die off, the sooner people will have to get well from nutrition, and the sooner the medical will collapse, and people will live.

8)

If people become healthy and start living on natural nutrition's, then how will the doctors live ?

The things will become more scary when vaccine and all these stuff will become mandatory and it will make healthy people sick too. How bad  ???

Medical people can start their own nutrition businesses.

If vaccines become mandatory, things will become even more scary when the people take down their governments for mandating such a thing.

8)


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Tash on April 20, 2021, 08:19:46 AM

Is there an issue with blue surgical face masks and standard NHS PPE?  Worms
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHjufoay6Xs&t=1306s


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Natsuu on April 21, 2021, 03:02:30 PM

Why do you believe in FAUCI in the first place? are you a fan? a believer?, is he your god? he's been wrong many times yet you still believed in everything he says. hence says all about your belief system. - I agree. Why does anybody believe Fauci? Wealth doesn't make somebody worth his weight. Often, wealth only shows how clever they are at taking advantage of other people. So, why do YOU believe in Fauci?

The methods of determining these has been proved and as evidence, the medication for specific cases had been working for years. - Other medicines might work better. You can tell by how many time a doctor changes a person's prescription for the same malady.

BOOMER - Some people bang knuckles. Some people bump elbows. Many simply shake hands as usual. But in the forum, we can't bang or bump or even shake. So, I'll play your game once... BOOMER.


Here's the real reason for masks. But this isn't the only way to say it.


Face Masks & Courage: Is Family Your Excuse for Cowardice... (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/302977-2021-04-17-face-masks-courage-is-family-your-excuse-for-cowardice.htm)



Quote from: Face Masks & Courage: Is Family Your Excuse for Cowardice...
Parents used to stand up in life for the benefit of their kids. They realized that no matter how much money they left their kids, the inheritance of freedom was worth so much more to a child than the dollars and cents a parent could leave behind.

Today so many parents make their child an excuse for why they refuse to stand up in life, and they say they are keeping their lips zipped BECAUSE of their child. They are doing it BECAUSE of their child they say.

That's not okay.

A Kentucky soccer coach who refused to go masked and refused to enforce the mask didn't keep quiet because of his daughter. He stood up because of his daughter. He lost his coveted position as a result.

But because of his courage, he is also the father of the only soccer player in the county who plays without a mask.

The father who wrote me from Arizona didn't back down from his values because of his kids. No he doubled down. A decorated teacher, when the lockdowns began he didn't put on his mask and mask his two sons. No, he quit his job, pulled his two sons out of school and now homeschools them, a far more nurturing environment for all three of them.

These are heroes of 2020, not the 16-year-old Trader Joe's bag boy yelling at his 60-year-old elders to mask up, emboldened by the unhealthy public health dictates and the trillion dollar media machine that wants to sell us all manner of bad ideas.

These parents are the leaders of 2020, not the chattering classes who go on guilt-filled tirades in the media, trying to get regular folks to do the most irregular and unnatural things: such as placing a ten-cent polypropylene mask from Wuhan province on their kids faces and calling that normal, or letting a child be put on house arrest and calling that "lockdown" normal, or letting the public health bureaucrats know that every weird experiment on their child that a bureaucrat could possibly come up with is an experiment that your family will willingly sacrifice their youngest and most precious to.

...


8)

Are you a writer of that journal, cause you seem to be so inclined with their articles, especially their editorial. I wonder


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Jet Cash on April 21, 2021, 03:24:41 PM

If people become healthy and start living on natural nutrition's, then how will the doctors live ?


The way the Chinese used to reward them. They were paid for each healthy person on their books, and if someone became ill. then they didn't get payment for them.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on April 22, 2021, 01:08:17 AM

Why do you believe in FAUCI in the first place? are you a fan? a believer?, is he your god? he's been wrong many times yet you still believed in everything he says. hence says all about your belief system. - I agree. Why does anybody believe Fauci? Wealth doesn't make somebody worth his weight. Often, wealth only shows how clever they are at taking advantage of other people. So, why do YOU believe in Fauci?

The methods of determining these has been proved and as evidence, the medication for specific cases had been working for years. - Other medicines might work better. You can tell by how many time a doctor changes a person's prescription for the same malady.

BOOMER - Some people bang knuckles. Some people bump elbows. Many simply shake hands as usual. But in the forum, we can't bang or bump or even shake. So, I'll play your game once... BOOMER.


Here's the real reason for masks. But this isn't the only way to say it.


Face Masks & Courage: Is Family Your Excuse for Cowardice... (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/302977-2021-04-17-face-masks-courage-is-family-your-excuse-for-cowardice.htm)



Quote from: Face Masks & Courage: Is Family Your Excuse for Cowardice...
Parents used to stand up in life for the benefit of their kids. They realized that no matter how much money they left their kids, the inheritance of freedom was worth so much more to a child than the dollars and cents a parent could leave behind.

Today so many parents make their child an excuse for why they refuse to stand up in life, and they say they are keeping their lips zipped BECAUSE of their child. They are doing it BECAUSE of their child they say.

That's not okay.

A Kentucky soccer coach who refused to go masked and refused to enforce the mask didn't keep quiet because of his daughter. He stood up because of his daughter. He lost his coveted position as a result.

But because of his courage, he is also the father of the only soccer player in the county who plays without a mask.

The father who wrote me from Arizona didn't back down from his values because of his kids. No he doubled down. A decorated teacher, when the lockdowns began he didn't put on his mask and mask his two sons. No, he quit his job, pulled his two sons out of school and now homeschools them, a far more nurturing environment for all three of them.

These are heroes of 2020, not the 16-year-old Trader Joe's bag boy yelling at his 60-year-old elders to mask up, emboldened by the unhealthy public health dictates and the trillion dollar media machine that wants to sell us all manner of bad ideas.

These parents are the leaders of 2020, not the chattering classes who go on guilt-filled tirades in the media, trying to get regular folks to do the most irregular and unnatural things: such as placing a ten-cent polypropylene mask from Wuhan province on their kids faces and calling that normal, or letting a child be put on house arrest and calling that "lockdown" normal, or letting the public health bureaucrats know that every weird experiment on their child that a bureaucrat could possibly come up with is an experiment that your family will willingly sacrifice their youngest and most precious to.

...


8)

Are you a writer of that journal, cause you seem to be so inclined with their articles, especially their editorial. I wonder

I haven't looked very hard, but I haven't seen the BADecker handle listed as author of any of the articles. That's all you really need to do. Simply go through the articles to see if BADecker is listed. Then inform me so I can go and congratulate the writer.

8)


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Tash on April 22, 2021, 07:11:17 AM


Canadian Health Authority Bans Many Blue Masks Over Severe Lung Damage
https://coronanews123.wordpress.com/2021/04/21/canadian-health-authority-bans-many-blue-masks-over-severe-lung-damage-fauci-says-double-mask/


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Natsuu on April 23, 2021, 05:37:11 PM


Canadian Health Authority Bans Many Blue Masks Over Severe Lung Damage
https://coronanews123.wordpress.com/2021/04/21/canadian-health-authority-bans-many-blue-masks-over-severe-lung-damage-fauci-says-double-mask/

For info's, graphene is a nanomaterial harder than a diamond. It is usually used for nanotechnology, which is my professor been studying.

The masks that canadian health authority bans are the masks, who contains these materials.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: virasog on April 23, 2021, 06:27:42 PM

If vaccines become mandatory, things will become even more scary when the people take down their governments for mandating such a thing.

8)

I don't think people have that much power to go against the governments. In reality, people are slaves and they will have to obey what ever government make mandatory. Governments have too much power and they can make a lot of restrictions for those who do not take vaccine. To start with, for international travel, vaccine is a must. Soon, in order to get a job in a multinational, you will need to show that you have been vaccinated in your medical records. Slaves have no options but to get vaccinated.  8)


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on April 23, 2021, 07:56:18 PM

If vaccines become mandatory, things will become even more scary when the people take down their governments for mandating such a thing.

8)

I don't think people have that much power to go against the governments. In reality, people are slaves and they will have to obey what ever government make mandatory. Governments have too much power and they can make a lot of restrictions for those who do not take vaccine. To start with, for international travel, vaccine is a must. Soon, in order to get a job in a multinational, you will need to show that you have been vaccinated in your medical records. Slaves have no options but to get vaccinated.  8)

In the USA, the only thing that the people don't have, is the knowledge of how to take their government down. Without that knowledge, it might seem difficult for them to conceive that they have the power.

In the US, the basic power is in the 12-person jury, in court. They can nullify laws, change laws, and essentially make new laws, all through their judgements of particular cases. But if they don't know it, or if they can't conceive of what this really means, they won't use it.

But that is only one way. Most arguments don't go that far... but they all could, and more of them should.

8)


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Ebede on April 23, 2021, 10:24:57 PM
Nose mask is one of the criteria use for making corona virus not to be transmitted from one person to another person, I acknowledge op, because we have to learn and understand how to putting on nose mask in advance form without involving our self more and more into contamination of corona virus, I have to understand that only remedy to corona virus is to obey it's regulations across the state.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Tash on April 24, 2021, 06:42:20 AM
Nose mask is one of the criteria use for making corona virus not to be transmitted from one person to another person, I acknowledge op, because we have to learn and understand how to putting on nose mask in advance form without involving our self more and more into contamination of corona virus, I have to understand that only remedy to corona virus is to obey it's regulations across the state.

but, but make sure to cover ears as well. It's a well established fact that the virus travels from the ear up to the brain, (as evident here). It's always good to prevent further damage.
https://i.ibb.co/72TnQVx/Untitled-5.png (https://ibb.co/QrqPkn7)


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Natsuu on April 24, 2021, 04:56:40 PM
Nose mask is one of the criteria use for making corona virus not to be transmitted from one person to another person, I acknowledge op, because we have to learn and understand how to putting on nose mask in advance form without involving our self more and more into contamination of corona virus, I have to understand that only remedy to corona virus is to obey it's regulations across the state.

but, but make sure to cover ears as well. It's a well established fact that the virus travels from the ear up to the brain, (as evident here). It's always good to prevent further damage.

And don't forgot that tash deduction ^ only applies to people with empty brain for the virus to travel through ears


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on April 24, 2021, 10:34:47 PM
Nose mask is one of the criteria use for making corona virus not to be transmitted from one person to another person, I acknowledge op, because we have to learn and understand how to putting on nose mask in advance form without involving our self more and more into contamination of corona virus, I have to understand that only remedy to corona virus is to obey it's regulations across the state.

but, but make sure to cover ears as well. It's a well established fact that the virus travels from the ear up to the brain, (as evident here). It's always good to prevent further damage.
https://i.ibb.co/72TnQVx/Untitled-5.png (https://ibb.co/QrqPkn7)

Must be a new way to raise a big army. Notice: horse protected, man not protected. Must be that horse turns into man when protected, right? Then needs no more protection :D

Of course, maybe protecting the horse keeps it from turning into man. And not protecting man turns him into Chinese, right? :D

8)


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: virasog on April 25, 2021, 07:46:06 AM

If vaccines become mandatory, things will become even more scary when the people take down their governments for mandating such a thing.

8)

I don't think people have that much power to go against the governments. In reality, people are slaves and they will have to obey what ever government make mandatory. Governments have too much power and they can make a lot of restrictions for those who do not take vaccine. To start with, for international travel, vaccine is a must. Soon, in order to get a job in a multinational, you will need to show that you have been vaccinated in your medical records. Slaves have no options but to get vaccinated.  8)

In the USA, the only thing that the people don't have, is the knowledge of how to take their government down. Without that knowledge, it might seem difficult for them to conceive that they have the power.


Are you sure about that they do not have the knowledge or this was the failed attempt to take the government down in the US  :o

https://i.imgur.com/jNL3v9c.png

Thought the U.S. Capitol attack couldn’t happen? Think again:  (https://theconversation.com/thought-the-u-s-capitol-attack-couldnt-happen-think-again-the-insurrection-threat-isnt-over-152810)



Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Natsuu on April 25, 2021, 09:04:56 AM

If vaccines become mandatory, things will become even more scary when the people take down their governments for mandating such a thing.

8)

I don't think people have that much power to go against the governments. In reality, people are slaves and they will have to obey what ever government make mandatory. Governments have too much power and they can make a lot of restrictions for those who do not take vaccine. To start with, for international travel, vaccine is a must. Soon, in order to get a job in a multinational, you will need to show that you have been vaccinated in your medical records. Slaves have no options but to get vaccinated.  8)

In the USA, the only thing that the people don't have, is the knowledge of how to take their government down. Without that knowledge, it might seem difficult for them to conceive that they have the power.


Are you sure about that they do not have the knowledge or this was the failed attempt to take the government down in the US  :o

https://i.imgur.com/jNL3v9c.png

Thought the U.S. Capitol attack couldn’t happen? Think again:  (https://theconversation.com/thought-the-u-s-capitol-attack-couldnt-happen-think-again-the-insurrection-threat-isnt-over-152810)


He just wants to turn a blind eye if it is PRO TRUMP who does this. He feels like it is not real for him if this happens to one of his parties.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on April 25, 2021, 09:30:27 PM

Are you sure about that they do not have the knowledge or this was the failed attempt to take the government down in the US  :o

https://i.imgur.com/jNL3v9c.png

Thought the U.S. Capitol attack couldn’t happen? Think again:  (https://theconversation.com/thought-the-u-s-capitol-attack-couldnt-happen-think-again-the-insurrection-threat-isnt-over-152810)


He just wants to turn a blind eye if it is PRO TRUMP who does this. He feels like it is not real for him if this happens to one of his parties.

All those pro-Biden rioters faking like they are pro-Trump rioters.

8)


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Natsuu on April 30, 2021, 04:51:57 PM

Are you sure about that they do not have the knowledge or this was the failed attempt to take the government down in the US  :o

https://i.imgur.com/jNL3v9c.png

Thought the U.S. Capitol attack couldn’t happen? Think again:  (https://theconversation.com/thought-the-u-s-capitol-attack-couldnt-happen-think-again-the-insurrection-threat-isnt-over-152810)


He just wants to turn a blind eye if it is PRO TRUMP who does this. He feels like it is not real for him if this happens to one of his parties.

All those pro-Biden rioters faking like they are pro-Trump rioters.

8)

Ohhh, I only see PRO TRUMP, undressing and waving the flags like dumbass.

AND thank you for proving my point


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Tash on May 01, 2021, 05:05:20 AM

Smart chap
https://i.postimg.cc/Wbr6VChb/Untitled-5.png (https://postimages.org/)


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Natsuu on May 01, 2021, 06:10:05 PM

Smart chap
https://i.postimg.cc/Wbr6VChb/Untitled-5.png (https://postimages.org/)

I'm forcing myself not to laugh, but okay.

imagine going to an infected room without a PPE, then when some of your colleagues mention this to you, then you reply with "My PPE is on the inside, it's called immune system"


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: tvbcof on May 01, 2021, 07:54:32 PM

Smart chap
https://i.postimg.cc/Wbr6VChb/Untitled-5.png (https://postimages.org/)

I'm forcing myself not to laugh, but okay.

imagine going to an infected room without a PPE, then when some of your colleagues mention this to you, then you reply with "My PPE is on the inside, it's called immune system"

Every room is 'infected'.  That's the guy's point for you folks who are a little slow on the uptake.

  https://www.bitchute.com/video/Tr2L6SSwpE3L/ (https://www.bitchute.com/video/Tr2L6SSwpE3L/)
  Covidiot compilation for your enjoyment



Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Natsuu on May 02, 2021, 09:37:58 AM

Smart chap
https://i.postimg.cc/Wbr6VChb/Untitled-5.png (https://postimages.org/)

I'm forcing myself not to laugh, but okay.

imagine going to an infected room without a PPE, then when some of your colleagues mention this to you, then you reply with "My PPE is on the inside, it's called immune system"

Every room is 'infected'.  That's the guy's point for you folks who are a little slow on the uptake.

  https://www.bitchute.com/video/Tr2L6SSwpE3L/ (https://www.bitchute.com/video/Tr2L6SSwpE3L/)
  Covidiot compilation for your enjoyment


earth is a room, everything is a room, what else is not a room. we are closed in the atmopshere so maybe thats what it is


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: tvbcof on May 02, 2021, 03:25:21 PM

Smart chap
[img_]https://i.postimg.cc/Wbr6VChb/Untitled-5.png[/img] (https://postimages.org/)

I'm forcing myself not to laugh, but okay.

imagine going to an infected room without a PPE, then when some of your colleagues mention this to you, then you reply with "My PPE is on the inside, it's called immune system"

Every room is 'infected'.  That's the guy's point for you folks who are a little slow on the uptake.

  https://www.bitchute.com/video/Tr2L6SSwpE3L/ (https://www.bitchute.com/video/Tr2L6SSwpE3L/)
  Covidiot compilation for your enjoyment


earth is a room, everything is a room, what else is not a room. we are closed in the atmopshere so maybe thats what it is

So that is the muddled thinking?  That's how the aforementioned 'covidiots' jumping around outdoors in the teletubbies suits are created I guess.  Explains a lot.



Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on May 03, 2021, 06:30:15 PM

Smart chap
[img_]https://i.postimg.cc/Wbr6VChb/Untitled-5.png[/img] (https://postimages.org/)

I'm forcing myself not to laugh, but okay.

imagine going to an infected room without a PPE, then when some of your colleagues mention this to you, then you reply with "My PPE is on the inside, it's called immune system"

Every room is 'infected'.  That's the guy's point for you folks who are a little slow on the uptake.

  https://www.bitchute.com/video/Tr2L6SSwpE3L/ (https://www.bitchute.com/video/Tr2L6SSwpE3L/)
  Covidiot compilation for your enjoyment


earth is a room, everything is a room, what else is not a room. we are closed in the atmopshere so maybe thats what it is

So that is the muddled thinking?  That's how the aforementioned 'covidiots' jumping around outdoors in the teletubbies suits are created I guess.  Explains a lot.



I think that the serious covidiots don't even get that far. Most of them stay hidden in their basements as much as possible. But even if they went outside, they know down deep that what they are doing is ridiculous.

The vast majority of the so-called covidiots are really enjoying their new-found fad. Life is so boring.

BONUS (Keep your volume high at the beginning.):

Grieg: Peer Gynt Suite No. 1, "In the Hall of the Mountain King"
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/4nMUr8Rt2AI/hqdefault.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEjCOADEI4CSFryq4qpAxUIARUAAAAAGAElAADIQj0AgKJDeAE=&rs=AOn4CLDHTZcNYtA1GBocVTLNH81VnXpd2Q
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nMUr8Rt2AI (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nMUr8Rt2AI)

8)


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: quocsi on May 04, 2021, 11:12:39 PM
It would be a big mistake if you don't buy a mask to fight coronavirus. It will hurt your health. Pandemic corona virus will develop worldwide. Many people will die. The world economy was in crisis, inflation and looting happened in many places... It would be bad if it was true!


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Natsuu on May 06, 2021, 03:06:47 AM

Smart chap
[img_]https://i.postimg.cc/Wbr6VChb/Untitled-5.png[/img] (https://postimages.org/)

I'm forcing myself not to laugh, but okay.

imagine going to an infected room without a PPE, then when some of your colleagues mention this to you, then you reply with "My PPE is on the inside, it's called immune system"

Every room is 'infected'.  That's the guy's point for you folks who are a little slow on the uptake.

  https://www.bitchute.com/video/Tr2L6SSwpE3L/ (https://www.bitchute.com/video/Tr2L6SSwpE3L/)
  Covidiot compilation for your enjoyment


earth is a room, everything is a room, what else is not a room. we are closed in the atmopshere so maybe thats what it is

So that is the muddled thinking?  That's how the aforementioned 'covidiots' jumping around outdoors in the teletubbies suits are created I guess.  Explains a lot.



That is how you think, just emphasizing how you think, and the relevance of your thought in the statement


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on May 24, 2021, 07:14:45 PM
Let's rock and roll. I mean, show respect to those people and business that wear or require wearing a mask. Practice keeping a straight face. Laugh at them in private. I mean, you wouldn't laugh at retarded children, would you?

As usual, check the many links and the bibliography at the site.


Mask wearers now feel paranoid, angry, confused and stupid (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/305219-2021-05-24-mask-wearers-now-feel-paranoid-angry-confused-and-stupid.htm)



If you've noticed, there's also a Blue vs. Red politics game going on with masks, and that is why most of the Blue states are MUCH slower to remove mask mandates. The main problems, however, remain that the masks cause oxygen deprivation and angst, leading to pent up anger, and we all know most of the Trump haters have that going on, big time.

Now that mask rules are being lifted by the Red States and most big box retailers, even in Blue states, there's a new reason for the control freaks to feel paranoid, angry, confused and yes, dumb – when they have to look at all the intelligent and healthy people who aren't wearing masks because we figured out the control scam and "flipped the script."

Most of the vaccinated sheeple are and will continue to wear their useless, bacteria-laden masks because they've been brainwashed into paranoia and hate

Soon, the masks should all have the Biden Regime logo (anything resembling a swastika or communist sickle would be appropriate), because that's about what it all boils down to. Covid-19 was used as a cover story for tens of millions of falsified mail-in ballots to steal the election, by winning all the swing states. The mask was all about communism, and erasing human expression and collaboration, so nobody can be an individual or communicate about the most insidious health and politics scam ever besieged on a republic.

Now, the vaccinated sheeple are even more stupefied and angry than ever, and then confused and powerless on top of all of that. They just can't think or feel properly at all, during any part of the day, and now they can't take it out on the mask-less populace, because those rules are falling apart by the day, everywhere. These mask-wearing libtards are waiting for Fauci, the inventor of Covid-19, to tell them what to do, and their oxygen-deprivation masks are making them lose their minds, slowly but surely.

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Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Iphomme on May 25, 2021, 01:17:50 AM
Edit: I bought a mask, I'm fairly neutral on the topic now but it became law and I'm not of an age where coronavirus should have little affect so it makes sense for others' protection.

if you're going to wear a mask, make sure it has a ridge on it and that you can breathe in and out normally without the mask moving. IF YOU BREATHE IN OR OUT HARD IT SHOULD MOVE SLIGHTLY BUT SHOULD MOULD BACK AND NOT ENTER YOUR MOUTH - IF IT ENTERS YOUR MOUTH AND GETS WET THEN IT'S POINTLESS. I used mjnd continuously for 5 hours and it seemed to have little effect on me.




They won't protect you and you're just adding more waste to the land and water... They also don't cover your eyes which is probably how most infection gets in.

According to healthline (https://www.healthline.com/health-news/how-to-protect-yourself-while-traveling-during-the-coronavirus-outbreak) and many other sources, COVID-19/the novel coronavirus has a diameter of ~120nm while face masks only have a filter up to 300nm. I've been looking through information on facemasks have two main purposes:
1. Industrial: This is where someone is commonly working with small particles that need to be blocked going into their respiratory tract, such as wood workers and the like. Thre is also a use case for these in China for their pollution levels since carbon particulates above 100 micrometers in size are known for increasing the risk of asthma and 300 micrometers are known for producing carcinogens pretty quickly (I hope i got that the right way round).
2. Medical: Contrary to what a lot of people would thiink, the N95 model (I'm told is the most popular in medicine) actually just stops the surgeon/practitioner from projecting salivery deposits onto a patient and aren't actually for reducing the amount of infection spread between the two - probably the reason most doctors actually don't wear these. Quarrentine outfits probably give the doctor a certain amount of time in with a patient before they're changed, or have additional tuping to allow for them to receive air from outside the quarrentine unit (either that or they have more advanced filters, there's probably some fancy electrostatics devices for this sort of thing).

Anyway, your face masks just mean you're improving everyone else's air quality and may mean your immune system starts to become complacent (well if my nose is already covered, I clearly don't have to do anything)...

And the eyes link back with the same tubes as your nose and mouth, hence why when you have strong eye drops, you can taste them in the back of your mouth or when you throw up you feel your eyes burning a little.



IF you're under 35, it's highly unlikely it'll kill you.
If you're over 35 but are still pretty healthy, you shouldn't face much issue with it either. I've known 60&70 year olds to have caught pneumonia and barely noticed it (just got a temperature and shivers). If you worry about it too much or you're not healthy, that's when problems can start to arise and probably the hope with a lot of mainstream media that you will catch something and give a payout to big pharma (I'm looking at you USA)..

  Yes it's true its getting worsen the pollution but my concern in my country if we we're not used face mask we will be violate or warning or otherwise they will catch us but buying that beautiful mask that qouted by the other it is really expensive and more people can not afford to buy that one. Cause some seller they did not think about the health but just the wealth or money. So if I given a chance to buy that one I'll grab it and I will never use face mask that can worsen the pollution.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: PIR on May 27, 2021, 10:56:25 AM
It is one of those health protocol to wear mask, face shield. aside from frequent hand washing and observe social distancing. I think it would help to avoid getting direct infected of the virus, although there are many kinds of face-mask and I think its your own choice what to choose and to check yourself from time to time make sure your getting enough breath as well and not being suffocated.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Mauser on May 27, 2021, 12:55:02 PM
It is one of those health protocol to wear mask, face shield. aside from frequent hand washing and observe social distancing. I think it would help to avoid getting direct infected of the virus, although there are many kinds of face-mask and I think its your own choice what to choose and to check yourself from time to time make sure your getting enough breath as well and not being suffocated.

Unfortunately I don't see anyway around the face masks at moment. Even fully vaccinated people need to drill wear a mask when going shopping. As long as only a fraction of the population is vaccinated I think that the rules will stay. In the past I saw some offers for free masks but that stopped over the time. I tend to use older masks again after keeping them dry for 7 days. But eventually we have to buy new masks again, especially if only medical masks are allowed.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: TopTort777 on May 27, 2021, 01:13:40 PM
I've got a half doze (first) of vaccine, visit work only once a week and visit all other crowded places with my mask on. However I managed to catch covid19. My way of life did not change during last 1.5 year (time during covid). I'm sure that I got that shit due to weak immune system. Spring came, it became hot so air conditions started to turn on. First I have caught cold, then it led to running test, which turned to be positive today. Masks did not help me. As soon as my immune system showed some weakness, I immediately caught covid.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: wack slacker on May 27, 2021, 03:29:53 PM
Wearing a mask has a scientific basis in limiting exposure to polluted air and airborne pathogens. Countries that do not use masks have higher infection rates than countries where people often wear masks. I am living in Vietnam, wearing a mask is essential when leaving the house and going to public places. Anyone not using a mask will be fined $50 or more. Thanks to masks and limiting going out during the epidemic season, we quickly got rid of the disease during outbreaks.
I'm glad the OP changed his point of view. If you don't want to get sick, put on a mask more often. You should not be neutral on this matter. Wearing a mask is good for your health and the whole community.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on May 27, 2021, 03:39:37 PM
CDC CHANGES MASK GUIDANCE AGAIN - https://www.bitchute.com/video/3sWS7MK8dbc9/.

U.S. HEALTH LEADERS IGNORE THE SCIENCE - https://www.bitchute.com/video/rlWESmrijl8Q/

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Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: tvbcof on May 27, 2021, 04:13:22 PM
Wearing a mask has a scientific basis in limiting exposure to polluted air and airborne pathogens. Countries that do not use masks have higher infection rates than countries where people often wear masks. I am living in Vietnam, wearing a mask is essential when leaving the house and going to public places. Anyone not using a mask will be fined $50 or more. Thanks to masks and limiting going out during the epidemic season, we quickly got rid of the disease during outbreaks.
I'm glad the OP changed his point of view. If you don't want to get sick, put on a mask more often. You should not be neutral on this matter. Wearing a mask is good for your health and the whole community.

I did another vlog scan for Vietnam and it still seems that 'compliance' with masks is minimal.  Just like my friends there say.  Some of vloggers were foreigners so it doesn't seem to be the case that the borders are sealed.

 - Vietnam claims 46 deaths from the 'the covid' over the last year and a half.

 - The Philippines claims 20,379 deaths from 'the covid' over the same period of time.

Vietnam is developing their own 'vaccines' because they have the technical capability (which well could be to put salt into water) and get the globalists off their ass.

They also have a rather sensible rule saying that vaccines cannot be injected in to Vietnamese infants unless they are also injected into infants in the country where the substance is manufactured.

My guess is that Vietnam, for whatever set of historical reasons, never really developed the same need for IMF and World Bank funding to hold their country together as did certain other countries.  That's just an educated guess though since I have not researched it.  It should go without saying that if one is funded by the globalist financial organs and the WHO tells your health departments to jump, they have no choice but to say "How High?"  If the answer is 20,379 then 20,379 is the quota.

I saw that ginger's vid of wandering around the city.  He and a bunch of others seem to be there for some archery competition: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZYg988hprA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZYg988hprA)



Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: wack slacker on May 27, 2021, 05:15:31 PM
Wearing a mask has a scientific basis in limiting exposure to polluted air and airborne pathogens. Countries that do not use masks have higher infection rates than countries where people often wear masks. I am living in Vietnam, wearing a mask is essential when leaving the house and going to public places. Anyone not using a mask will be fined $50 or more. Thanks to masks and limiting going out during the epidemic season, we quickly got rid of the disease during outbreaks.
I'm glad the OP changed his point of view. If you don't want to get sick, put on a mask more often. You should not be neutral on this matter. Wearing a mask is good for your health and the whole community.

I did another vlog scan for Vietnam and it still seems that 'compliance' with masks is minimal.  Just like my friends there say.  Some of vloggers were foreigners so it doesn't seem to be the case that the borders are sealed.

 - Vietnam claims 46 deaths from the 'the covid' over the last year and a half.

 - The Philippines claims 20,379 deaths from 'the covid' over the same period of time.

Vietnam is developing their own 'vaccines' because they have the technical capability (which well could be to put salt into water) and get the globalists off their ass.

They also have a rather sensible rule saying that vaccines cannot be injected in to Vietnamese infants unless they are also injected into infants in the country where the substance is manufactured.

My guess is that Vietnam, for whatever set of historical reasons, never really developed the same need for IMF and World Bank funding to hold their country together as did certain other countries.  That's just an educated guess though since I have not researched it.  It should go without saying that if one is funded by the globalist financial organs and the WHO tells your health departments to jump, they have no choice but to say "How High?"  If the answer is 20,379 then 20,379 is the quota.

I saw that ginger's vid of wandering around the city.  He and a bunch of others seem to be there for some archery competition: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZYg988hprA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZYg988hprA)



This vlog was made recently. Those who are invited come in an enclosed space that is the shooting range. They are people that Phuc Map knows so they do not use masks. If you watch closely, you'll see the girl in the video at the fourth minute of 1:04 wearing a mask.


Everyone in my country wears a mask when going out in epidemic cities. It is a mandatory requirement, if anyone does not comply and is found, they will be fined.
You do take such an example to evaluate the overall, so it is not objective.
We have specific regulations on the use of masks and have sanctioned results for those who violate not using masks in public places.


https://luatvietnam.vn/y-te/quyet-dinh-1053-qd-byt-huong-dan-deo-khau-trang-phong-chong-covid-19-198349-d1.html


http://cand.com.vn/y-te/Xu-phat-28-trieu-dong-cac-truong-hop-khong-deo-khau-trang-noi-cong-cong-639442/



46 people died from COVID 19, most of them elderly people with pre-existing conditions such as kidney disease, diabetes and other incurable diseases.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: tvbcof on May 27, 2021, 07:03:00 PM

Riddle:  What do Covidiots and Q-Tards have in common?

...
Mask wearers now feel paranoid, angry, confused and stupid (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/305219-2021-05-24-mask-wearers-now-feel-paranoid-angry-confused-and-stupid.htm)
...

Oh yeah.  That.



Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: BADecker on May 27, 2021, 10:44:56 PM

Riddle:  What do Covidiots and Q-Tards have in common?

...
Mask wearers now feel paranoid, angry, confused and stupid (http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/305219-2021-05-24-mask-wearers-now-feel-paranoid-angry-confused-and-stupid.htm)
...

Oh yeah.  That.



But if they are simple, honest, courageous people, they will own up to their mistake, and start investigating for real.

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Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Natsuu on May 28, 2021, 06:11:54 AM
Wearing a mask has a scientific basis in limiting exposure to polluted air and airborne pathogens. Countries that do not use masks have higher infection rates than countries where people often wear masks. I am living in Vietnam, wearing a mask is essential when leaving the house and going to public places. Anyone not using a mask will be fined $50 or more. Thanks to masks and limiting going out during the epidemic season, we quickly got rid of the disease during outbreaks.
I'm glad the OP changed his point of view. If you don't want to get sick, put on a mask more often. You should not be neutral on this matter. Wearing a mask is good for your health and the whole community.

I did another vlog scan for Vietnam and it still seems that 'compliance' with masks is minimal.  Just like my friends there say.  Some of vloggers were foreigners so it doesn't seem to be the case that the borders are sealed.

 - Vietnam claims 46 deaths from the 'the covid' over the last year and a half.

 - The Philippines claims 20,379 deaths from 'the covid' over the same period of time.

Vietnam is developing their own 'vaccines' because they have the technical capability (which well could be to put salt into water) and get the globalists off their ass.

They also have a rather sensible rule saying that vaccines cannot be injected in to Vietnamese infants unless they are also injected into infants in the country where the substance is manufactured.

My guess is that Vietnam, for whatever set of historical reasons, never really developed the same need for IMF and World Bank funding to hold their country together as did certain other countries.  That's just an educated guess though since I have not researched it.  It should go without saying that if one is funded by the globalist financial organs and the WHO tells your health departments to jump, they have no choice but to say "How High?"  If the answer is 20,379 then 20,379 is the quota.

I saw that ginger's vid of wandering around the city.  He and a bunch of others seem to be there for some archery competition: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZYg988hprA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZYg988hprA)


Let me have a comment on this

Vietnam has strict covid response in the start of the pandemic, offers mass testing, etc. While in the Philippines, the president insisted that he can just punch the virus and it will go away, mass testing is unneccesary, and don't want to travel ban those people coming from infected countries because it will be "RUDE"


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: sky110 on June 07, 2021, 06:34:54 AM
I don't take it for free from work


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Samrita on June 07, 2021, 08:43:39 AM
Wear a mask everytime and be safe, get the serous to the virus.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Mauser on June 07, 2021, 09:29:26 AM
I don't take it for free from work

At work I only get 2 masks per month which is definitely not enough. I only need to go to the office twice per week, so it's not so many masks I need to buy. I understand why masks are necessary,to protect others in case I am infected. But if we need to wear a mask at work I think that our employer should buy the masks.


Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: tvbcof on January 19, 2022, 06:24:35 PM

Just doing a news scan for my state of Oregon.  Couple of interesting things:

 - https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/drug-resistant-candida-auris-fungus-found-in-louisiana-for-first-time-weeks-after-oregon/ar-AASW6Gv (https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/drug-resistant-candida-auris-fungus-found-in-louisiana-for-first-time-weeks-after-oregon/ar-AASW6Gv) or https://archive.is/wip/fm9JW (https://archive.is/wip/fm9JW)

Nobody has any clue how such a thing could have popped up (or care very much.)  Just one of those lifes' mysteries.  Oh well.

In other news:

 - https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/oregon-officials-propose-making-indoor-mask-mandate-permanent/ar-AASWdl1 (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/oregon-officials-propose-making-indoor-mask-mandate-permanent/ar-AASWdl1) or https://archive.is/wip/AZ5nf (https://archive.is/wip/AZ5nf)



Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Tash on January 19, 2022, 07:48:36 PM

Just doing a news scan for my state of Oregon.  Couple of interesting things:

 - https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/drug-resistant-candida-auris-fungus-found-in-louisiana-for-first-time-weeks-after-oregon/ar-AASW6Gv (https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/drug-resistant-candida-auris-fungus-found-in-louisiana-for-first-time-weeks-after-oregon/ar-AASW6Gv) or https://archive.is/wip/fm9JW (https://archive.is/wip/fm9JW)

Nobody has any clue how such a thing could have popped up (or care very much.)  Just one of those lifes' mysteries.  Oh well.

In other news:

 - https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/oregon-officials-propose-making-indoor-mask-mandate-permanent/ar-AASWdl1 (https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/oregon-officials-propose-making-indoor-mask-mandate-permanent/ar-AASWdl1) or https://archive.is/wip/AZ5nf (https://archive.is/wip/AZ5nf)



There is currently no vaccine for Candida auris. Can we do something about it?
The bottom line is this, everyone has it but healty immune system keeps it in check.
People with no immune system speak vaccinated will have all kind of out of control growth. Give it a little while.



Title: Re: Don't buy facemasks for the coronavirus!
Post by: Gyfts on January 19, 2022, 10:15:47 PM
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medical/drug-resistant-candida-auris-fungus-found-in-louisiana-for-first-time-weeks-after-oregon/ar-AASW6Gv


This is a common problem for any therapeutics that work against bacteria or fungi, I see this being the next global health crisis after COVID. We can't use penicillin to treat staph anymore, it became resistant. Not all antibiotics will work, and in the event they do work, if they are over prescribed, the bacteria become resistant.

It could be a larger part to immediately jump to medication instead of naturally letting a disease progress, but I see no reason to turn away therapeutics as long as they work. Maybe in the most mildest cases of infection, let the immune system handle it. Though it's tough to tell a patient who demands to be treated that they be refused medication over an issue that does not affect them personally. If you asked anyone if they cared about microbial resistance they probably could not even grasp the concept.