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Lol are you crazy? Is it not enough that prisons are run on people’s taxes? You are going to spend even more money into them. For what? It is unlikely that anyone will regret the death of a murderer, pedophile, rapist, thief, and so on. Especially, if we are talking about persons with life imprisonments. You need to do a lot of bad things to deserve it.
We need to take care of free people instead. There are a lot of troubles outside the prisons

Crazily enough I actually haven''t heard a thing about COVID-19 and the prison system, I guess they do also have a less chance of getting in then everyday pepople cause the only way they'd get it is from a guard, other prison staff, or visitor. The other prisoners aren't ya know, allowed to move freely. But once it does get to the prison, as it will, it'll be hard to stop.

The story you reference I'm pretty sure about prisons around the world is this one - https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2020/mar/24/hundreds-of-nsw-prisoners-could-be-released-early-under-covid-19-emergency-powers

Thousands of prisoners for non violent crimes are being released across the US to combat this - [Suspicious link removed]j.com/articles/jails-release-prisoners-fearing-coronavirus-outbreak-11584885600

  A virus that is splitted into the air can be or get to anywhere in the world, you are right they can get infected by visitors or maybe prison Guards, just like you said you have not heard anything about them in prisons and Coronavirus, which happens to be why I created the thread so that people can be able to remember that they are captives in prison and not focusing on facemasks and sanitizers alone, prisoners are humans and must be shown kindness just like everyother person on earth.

Some inmates that have minor cases are being released in some advanced countries. while in Africa nobody cares about the prisoners if the virus will affect or kill them, not minding that they are also our loved ones trapped behind walls, who need help, because the virus has no boundaries,  I read about prisons in the amazon deriving funds from inmates to pay $4 for treatment or checkup before they will be issued with hand sanitizers and facemasks, but the government is supposed to make free provisions for them because they labour too with their sweat and energy.
We should'nt forget the prisoners they are human beings serving capital punishments. What could be the best healthcare provision for the prisoners?

every life matters and nobody deserve to be left behind to die not minding their personality,

I don't think that there are enough funds to help them but I think that people in prison are more unlikely to contract virus unless there was a physical contact from the outside. The relief operations should be directed to poor people but I think having a preventive measures could have help them in the first place.

This is typical in my country, all prisons are State run but are worse than the typical condemned building in other countries. Prisoners getting infected and untreated (all diseases) is very common. For the most part if you have no money, you won't survive. All prisons are gang controlled, so you either sell yourself to work for the gang, or die. Working for the gang means what you can imagine: bully, extort, traffic, sex, fight with other gangs, you name it. They are called "universities for crime" over here, because if you survive, you will graduate from whatever mild crime you might have done into a full fledged criminal already part of an organization which often use the prisons as the headquarters, with the "boss" living there a life of luxury you would think comes from fantasy if i told you. One of the kingpins even managed to build a Zoo... Pools, brothels for underage girls, drug shops and "night clubs" are commonplace for the ruling gang (and their guests).

I would ask you to search Youtube videos or online articles if you didn't believe it, but most of the "good" stuff is in Spanish anyway.

Yeah, here in prison you have to pay for a piece of wall for you to sleep on, or a stair, or whatever. Of course food and medicine too. The State is... the source of officials to pay bribes to and have them bring you stuff, or something like that. The control within prisons is crime organized. There was once this woman prison director that wanted certain boss to behave more like a normal prisoner; her family was threatened and she quickly resigned. It happened a few years back, just to give you an idea. And yes, we share the Amazon, i doubt that is related, but our cultures are similar.

Some inmates that have minor cases are being released in some advanced countries. while in Africa nobody cares about the prisoners if the virus will affect or kill them, not minding that they are also our loved ones trapped behind walls, who need help, because the virus has no boundaries,  I read about prisons in the amazon deriving funds from inmates to pay $4 for treatment or checkup before they will be issued with hand sanitizers and facemasks, but the government is supposed to make free provisions for them because they labour too with their sweat and energy.
We should'nt forget the prisoners they are human beings serving capital punishments. What could be the best healthcare provision for the prisoners?

In my country most prisoners were released due to this corona because there is not enough space for everyone to keep them in cells so based on their remaining prison time they have been released but now sure how much were exactly been released.

I have a question though why corona should enters into the prison? It is the most secured place then how it could spread there.

In my country most prisoners were released due to this corona because there is not enough space for everyone to keep them in cells so based on their remaining prison time they have been released but now sure how much were exactly been released.

I have a question though why corona should enters into the prison? It is the most secured place then how it could spread there.

Some inmates that have minor cases are being released in some advanced countries. while in Africa nobody cares about the prisoners if the virus will affect or kill them, not minding that they are also our loved ones trapped behind walls, who need help, because the virus has no boundaries,  I read about prisons in the amazon deriving funds from inmates to pay $4 for treatment or checkup before they will be issued with hand sanitizers and facemasks, but the government is supposed to make free provisions for them because they labour too with their sweat and energy.
We should'nt forget the prisoners they are human beings serving capital punishments. What could be the best healthcare provision for the prisoners?

How happy some prisoners must be to be in solitary now.      :D

"Oh no, I'm just fine here, seriously. Don't let me out."

World's Largest USA Prison System an Incubator for COVID-19 Outbreaks

by Stephen Lendman (stephenlendman.org - Home - Stephen Lendman)

Large numbers of people in close contact indoors virtually assure many more COVID-19 outbreaks and deaths from the disease than in the general population.

The Trump regime doesn't take the issue seriously, not when outbreaks first began, notably not now with record numbers of cases reported most days — a record-high 60,000+ on Wednesday.

Official White House policy ignores the issue, failing to provide help to states and local communities, hoping it can prevent the severest public health crisis in modern times from being a major election issue.

Dems' strategy and most establishment media are using what's going on to make Trump a one-term president.

If numbers of outbreaks and deaths keep increasing throughout the summer and fall, Biden will likely succeed him in January, along with Dems maintaining control of the House and gaining it over the Senate.

Most often in US history, government is divided between both wings of the one-party state.

Bush/Cheney controlled the White House and Congress during most of its tenure. So did JFK and LBJ. Dwight Eisenhower did for a portion of his presidency.

From the late 1920s to early 1930s, Republicans ran all three branches.

From 1937 - 1945 during the tenures of FDR and HST, Dems had full control.

New Deal, Fair Deal, Great Society years were exceptions to the rule in how the US has been governed.

Most often, both right wings of the one-party state serve privileged interests exclusively at the expense of the public welfare.

Clearly that's how things are today. Indifference toward public health and welfare contributed greatly to spreading COVID-19 outbreaks.

The world's richest country USA has done the must abysmal job in dealing with cases.

Based on current trends, they could be much higher this fall and winter, cooler weather accelerating outbreaks.

They're worst of all among the US prison population, the world's largest by far, including thousands behind bars for political reasons. 

What's longstanding in the US is testimony to its contempt for equity, justice, and the rule of law, — not adherence to its fundamental principles that's never been core US policy, just the opposite.

According to the Prison Policy Initiative, around five million or more Americans are arrested, imprisoned or jailed annually, millions more under correctional supervision, people of color disproportionately affected, Blacks most of all.

To date, nearly 50,000 US prison inmates contracted COVID-19.

Because healthcare in US federal, state, and local prisons is abysmal, contracting the virus is especially of concern for older inmates with weak immune systems and other health issues.

They're certain to be ill-treated, why're hundreds already died behind bars, most other ill unmates left to suffer under harsh gulag conditions.

According to Solidarity Watch.org, numbers of US prison inmates held under these conditions increased from around 60,000 before COVID-19 outbreaks began to an estimated 300,000 now.

Longterm solitary confinement is torture by other means, a flagrant 8th Amendment breach.

Locking people in cages longterm with little or no human contact flagrantly violates the letter and spirit of the law.

Yet it's standard US prison practice nationwide, victims out of sight and mind, ignored by society, including establishment media.

There's virtually no limit on how long inmates can be isolated in federal, state, and local confinement.

Psychologist Hans Toch once coined the term "isolation panic."

He described symptoms that include hysteria, rage, total loss of control, emotional breakdown, regressive behavior, and self-mutilation.

When ill in isolation, things are harshly worse.

On July 8, the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA) published a report on COVID-19 cases in federal and state prisons, explaining the following:

Under conditions of involuntary close confinement, there's virtually no access to personal protective equipment (PPE).

An elevated risk of cardiac, respiratory, and other serious health issues exists besides an environment that's highly conducive to spreading COVID-19 from one infected inmate to others.

By early June in a prison population that's around half the US total at any moment in time, JAMA found 42,107 inmates infected with COVID-19, a case rate of "3,251 per 100,000 prisoners," and 510 deaths.

The "case rate for prisoners was 5.5 times higher than the US population case rate of 587 per 100,?000."

"The crude COVID-19 death rate in prisons was 39 deaths per 100,?000 prisoners, which was higher than the US population rate of 29 deaths per 100?000."

Most inmate deaths were aged-65 or over.

JAMA concluded the following:

COVID-19 cases and deaths are substantially higher and escalating much more rapidly in prisons than in the general US population.

Clearly it's because large numbers of inmates are in close proximity to each other — compounded by profoundly dismal healthcare in US prisons.

The US honors its worst and either harms or is indifferent to its best and most disadvantaged.

Most US prison inmates are behind bars for nonviolent offenses, many for illicit drug possession or other misdemeanors that in most societies are too minor to matter.

America's prison/industrial complex grew exponentially over the last half century because of institutionalized racism, police state toughness, judicial unfairness, political persecution, and a guilty unless proved innocent system for society's most disadvantaged.

While Blacks are disproportionately imprisoned, Native Americans have the highest percent of their population behind bars.

Mass incarceration in the US is a growth industry, a form of human trafficking, including privately-run prisons, their management incentivized to fill beds and provide barebones services for maximum profits — including minimal healthcare even for seriously ill inmates.

There's never a good time for anyone to languish behind bars.

Because prisons are incubators for spreading infectious diseases, it's especially hazardous to human health and welfare to be behind bars now.

If the present trend continues, numbers of COVID-19 outbreaks and deaths in US prisons and overall society are likely to be much higher this fall and winter.

It's especially worrisome in a nation that's notoriously indifferent toward the health and welfare of its ordinary people, worst of all for those behind bars.

But this is exactly what is happening in prison. People are coming in from the outside (Guards, Medical Staff, Warden, Business Staff, Janitors, etc) and are infecting the people in their. Once a prisoner is infected it's kinda over -- isn't as much distancing possible in the prison system as their is in your everyday life. You're forced to be with people for a certain amount of time, most of the time you're living with another person.

So -- I don't see the issue with releasing people for minor non violent crimes.

Quoting one of my old responses to again push the issue that we really are having some CRAZY outbreaks in prisons and they're one of the major sources of outbreaks. There really is nothing that people in prisons are able to do to protect themselves, as they're going to be living with another person, eating in a cafeteria, going onto the yard, and so on.

Not too sanitary as well in the prison system. Not like everyone is nicely separated and is living in some nice Scandinavian prison, this is an American prison.

Here's an article from the NY Times regarding the issue (https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/16/us/coronavirus-inmates-prisons-jails.html) If you need to bypass paywalls, see here - https://github.com/iamadamdev/bypass-paywalls-chrome - I'm not affiliated at all with this chrome extension btw.

The real way to fix this issue, is to continue to let people out of jail who are in for non-violent crimes and just tell them that they have to serve their sentence (for now) at home.

Actually I'm more concerned about the good innocent citizens being abusively charged on the streets and having to pay a fine to the government for not using masks than for prisioners healthcare.
As long the prisioners *stay home* (on their jails) and don't have contact with people from outside, their health will be theoretically ok. I know some clever people use the coronavirus excuse to free them, but it's illogical, as the infection chances increase if they are released.

Actually I'm more concerned about the good innocent citizens being abusively charged on the streets and having to pay a fine to the government for not using masks than for prisioners healthcare.
As long the prisioners *stay home* (on their jails) and don't have contact with people from outside, their health will be theoretically ok. I know some clever people use the coronavirus excuse to free them, but it's illogical, as the infection chances increase if they are released.

Actually I'm more concerned about the good innocent citizens being abusively charged on the streets and having to pay a fine to the government for not using masks than for prisioners healthcare.
As long the prisioners *stay home* (on their jails) and don't have contact with people from outside, their health will be theoretically ok. I know some clever people use the coronavirus excuse to free them, but it's illogical, as the infection chances increase if they are released.

Plus if they're released from prison they're going to be mandated to stay in their house, with ankle monitors and the whole thing (I'm assuming this is the case, if not it's just the honor system)

Public health experts have been ringing the alarm relating to the crisis that is prisons and the spread of Corona. Plus the fact that all of the guards and stuff are bringing it home to their own children/family/etc.

Public health experts have been ringing the alarm relating to the crisis that is prisons and the spread of Corona. Plus the fact that all of the guards and stuff are bringing it home to their own children/family/etc.

If government (in the USA) orders and demands, and uses force, to make people wear masks, government had better be able to prove in court that there is a necessity. People are starting to move out of the physical resistance, and into the court resistance. It might cost some governors and mayors some out-of-pocket $money if they can't prove Covid to be a threat in a court of law.

The only way we know that health from things like viruses stays healthy, is through natural herd immunity. This does not mean that sick people should socialize. It means that carriers of Covid who are NOT sick should socialize with other people. Then the other people will get a few Covid viruses rather than the many that they would get from sick people. Once they have a few viruses, their immune system will make the antidote. That's what herd immunity is.

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Interesting, I haven't seen this theory on the media yet  :D
But actually that is happening since the beginning. Many people were infected and they didn't even realize this fact and continued working, socializing with others (and probably infecting other people who didn't show any symptoms as well).

The top medical people all know this. I think that they are preparing us for something worse than a simple virus problem. And they will be the ones to administer the new thing, whatever it may be. It might be worse than what Hitler tried to do by force.

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I think the plan is to destabilize world economies, so the regulators and bureaucrats find no resistance in abusing countries sovereignty, in this case through W.H.O and their excuse they are just caring for human lives.
Curiously they didn't do this when the virus spread started in China in the end of 2019, actually they cleared China government from any guilt.

However, by now, I think their plans were frustrated a little bit, because the virus isn't so powerful like the heralds of chaos propagate 24/7 on the media. Many people are aware about this manipulation and don't accept the hysteria built around coronavirus.
While our free speech right is guaranteed on the internet I think we are safe... Due to this factor we weren't overcame by the lords of the world and didn't lose our freedom yet.

It is sad to know that there people who can afford not to care for somebody. I feel pity for them. Theybare also human who needs to treated fairly. They may disobey the law that is why they are in there but we mist not forget them or let them become expose to any virus. The authority must be responsible not to let just one person get the virus because it will more difficult if all prisons get sick. It will cost more.

So you think it would be better if the convicts walked free just to avoid putting their lives in danger?

In my opinion, it is very dangerous, because in this case law-abiding citizens will be in danger.

~snip~

Some inmates that have minor cases are being released in some advanced countries. while in Africa nobody cares about the prisoners if the virus will affect or kill them, not minding that they are also our loved ones trapped behind walls, who need help, because the virus has no boundaries,  I read about prisons in the amazon deriving funds from inmates to pay $4 for treatment or checkup before they will be issued with hand sanitizers and facemasks, but the government is supposed to make free provisions for them because they labour too with their sweat and energy.
We should'nt forget the prisoners they are human beings serving capital punishments. What could be the best healthcare provision for the prisoners?

Here in our country, that scenario is too suspicious, the authorities said that those high profile inmates died from Covid-19 and yet they don't release any proof of that report. They just release the news regarding that, and they just leave the public hanging with their so called "fake drama".

As a citizen of that country, we need to find the truth, we want to be aware of those events.

The public said that, "maybe they just used the Covid-19 diseases as an escape goat to really escape the prison".

I hope that our government is not hiding something from us and using the Covid-19 to do dubious things.

There is also a news here regarding those 18 positive cases in one of an urban city in this country. They said that 9 of them are inmates and the other 9 are personnel, the government should also be aware and focus on the happening inside the prisons as they are really congested their and the rate of transmission of the virus could possibly fast.

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Since prisoners have as much contact with each other as free people, a great solution is to check their temperature daily in the morning and evening. This will help you quickly identify an infected person and send them to the hospital for treatment. And of course, we must not forget about the need to install sanitizers in prisons.

the effect of freeing prisoners from prison makes the crime rate high, I think those who are in prison are better at being in than being able to unsettle the community, the policy is a blunder, if releasing them because covid -19, therefore better stay inside rather than hanging around.

Here in our country, that scenario is too suspicious, the authorities said that those high profile inmates died from Covid-19 and yet they don't release any proof of that report. They just release the news regarding that, and they just leave the public hanging with their so called "fake drama".

As a citizen of that country, we need to find the truth, we want to be aware of those events.

The public said that, "maybe they just used the Covid-19 diseases as an escape goat to really escape the prison".

I hope that our government is not hiding something from us and using the Covid-19 to do dubious things.

There is also a news here regarding those 18 positive cases in one of an urban city in this country. They said that 9 of them are inmates and the other 9 are personnel, the government should also be aware and focus on the happening inside the prisons as they are really congested their and the rate of transmission of the virus could possibly fast.

Here in our country, that scenario is too suspicious, the authorities said that those high profile inmates died from Covid-19 and yet they don't release any proof of that report. They just release the news regarding that, and they just leave the public hanging with their so called "fake drama".

As a citizen of that country, we need to find the truth, we want to be aware of those events.

The public said that, "maybe they just used the Covid-19 diseases as an escape goat to really escape the prison".

I hope that our government is not hiding something from us and using the Covid-19 to do dubious things.

There is also a news here regarding those 18 positive cases in one of an urban city in this country. They said that 9 of them are inmates and the other 9 are personnel, the government should also be aware and focus on the happening inside the prisons as they are really congested their and the rate of transmission of the virus could possibly fast.

the effect of freeing prisoners from prison makes the crime rate high, I think those who are in prison are better at being in than being able to unsettle the community, the policy is a blunder, if releasing them because covid -19, therefore better stay inside rather than hanging around.

Some inmates that have minor cases are being released in some advanced countries.

That is the easiest what can be done. Usually prisons everywhere lie in conditions that are below standard. Simply because there is always to little money to build more prisons. Crowd is very bad fro covid-19 spreading. So only smart thing is to send some prisoners to sit few months at home. I dont see any reason why that should not be done everywhere in the world. Well rich countries can fast build more prisons. Poor simply send few prisoners to housearrest.

Who will monitor whether the prisoner is at home? Do you think that after such an "amnesty" the prisoners will sit quietly and wait until they are locked back in their cells? I do not think.
What will they eat? They will not have work, which means they will not have money. That is, they will be fed by their families, who may not even be waiting for them. The risk that such a rabble will begin to rob, steal and rape is too great.

That is the easiest what can be done. Usually prisons everywhere lie in conditions that are below standard. Simply because there is always to little money to build more prisons. Crowd is very bad fro covid-19 spreading. So only smart thing is to send some prisoners to sit few months at home. I dont see any reason why that should not be done everywhere in the world. Well rich countries can fast build more prisons. Poor simply send few prisoners to housearrest.

I believe they have some thing on their feet and local police checks them. Every country have a system made fro people to serve from their homes. Of course that are fro those that are not dangerous and probabyl allready sit part of their sentence. You should google about it to see how is organised in your country.