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Title: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on March 28, 2020, 04:53:40 PM
Despite bump changes in altcoin board, thread bumping still goes on. It is not as effective as it used to be, but it is nevertheless annoying, and what is even worse, it might fool less experienced users, especially since some ICO trackers (e.g. ICObench) even give rating based on ANN activity.  I've been planning to make list like this for a last month or two, and I kept postponing it, but i guess it is better late than never.

In this topic i plan to keep all those announcement threads that are either using some external bumping services, or they are using their own sock puppet accounts in order to fake interest. List would be too big  if I  included all those that did that in the past (even recent one),  so I will focus only on those that are doing it at the moment, and from now on.

Since we can't do much against those projects that are opting for this "marketing technique" other than reporting their posts, thread like this might help in that regard  for all of us that keep reporting  their fake conversations and shill posts, and to have  all of them in one topic, constantly updated.




Project nameAnnouncement  threadStatus
1. SwapZilla[ANN]SwapZilla-Unique infrastructure solution that revolutionizes crypto trading (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5191486.0)Inactive
2. Lotto NationLotto Nation - revolutionizing online lotteries with blockchain (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5233323.0)Inactive
3. Coinsbit.io An <COINSBIT.IO> Innovative Trading Cryptosystem  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5185065.0)Inactive
4. JolteeJoltee - Drive electric, behave well and pay less (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5208614.540)Inactive
5. MyTVChain⚽ [ANN] ⚽ MyTVchain - Live sports, powered by blockchain ⚽ (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5210814.0)Inactive
6. Amanpuri🔥🔥[ANN][ICO]AMANPURI – Ultimate exchange – PRIVATE SALE🔥🔥 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5116010.0)Inactive
7. MarketPeak✅ [ANN] MarketPeak: Rewarding Gateway for FinTech Projects & Tokenized Assets 🔥  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5234245.0)Inactive
8. ImpulsX[ANN][IPX] ImpulsX Trade Cryptocurrencies with ImpulsX Global Order Book (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5235151.0)Inactive
9. Romad[ANN][ICO] ⭐️⭐️⭐️ROMAD - NEXT GENERATION ANTI-VIRUS! WORKING PRODUCT!⭐️⭐️⭐️ (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3363802.0)Inactive
10. Weemat.io[ANN] Weemat.io - The weeEcosystem goes blockchain (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5219707.0)Inactive
11. SUR★ SUR ★ Token As A Pledge for Suretly (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1879035.0)Active
12. SUR (Russian) ★ SUR ★ тoкeн-зaлoг для Suretly (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1879494.0)Active
13. EDC Blockchain [ANN] EDC Blockchain - global platform with its own cryptocurrency (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5135187.0)Active
14. IndexChain[ANN] [IndexChain-IDX] Safe+Private+Hybrid POW/ POS/ MN ♔♕  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5235506.0)Active
15. Relictum Pro[ANN] Relictum Pro | Blockchain 5.0 of the latest generation (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5221631.0)Active
16. CrybetCrybet - Casino / Sports Betting / IGaming (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5231373.0)Inactive
17. HEX[ANN] HEX - Investment platform of the new generation  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5234620.0)Active
18. Emirex[ANN] Emirex Official - The Infrastructure for the New Digital Economy (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5179932.0)Active
19. Prizm Cash[ANN] 🔶🔶🔶 Prizm Cash - SAME SAME, BUT DIFFERENT 🔶🔶🔶 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5235724.0)Active
20. Prizm Cash (Russian)[ANN]🔶🔶PZM Cash-ПPИBЫЧHAЯ KPИПTOBAЛЮTA, HO ДPУГAЯ🔶🔶 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5235723.0)Active
21. Cocos-BCX [MainNet Stage] Cocos-BCX‘s First Batch of 38 Ecosystem Buidlers & Angels List  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5239202.0)Active
22. ModulTrade[ANN][PRE-ICO] 🚀🚀 ModulTrade : The Freedom To Trade 🚀🚀  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2240518.0)Active
23. Cleobet🛡️ Cleobet.io - New licensed Bitcoin sportsbook - 🎁 100% deposit bonus  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5237705.0)Inactive
24. AAX[ANN][AAB] AAX - The World’s First Digital Asset Exchange by LSEG Technology  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5236459.0)Active
25. Goldario📢[ANN]🌟 Goldario - Your Share in the World's Digital Economy 🚀 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5234514.msg54072443#msg54072443)Deleted
26. White Stripe Lottery[ANN][WSLT] White Stripe Lottery | Changing the view of gambling (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5234254.0)Active
27. MASS[MASS] Decentralized HARD DRIVE mining cryptocurrency | PoC | Low Energy cost (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5230593.0)Active
28. BetaFunds [ANN][FUND]🚀🚀🚀A Smart Index Fund for everyone | BETAFUNDS 🚀🚀🚀 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5240988.0)Active
29. CashHand[ANN] [CHND] CashHand (The Next Giant E-Commerce) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5228772.0)Active
30. Tozex[ANN]✅TOZEX ✅- CryptoAsset Platform for Issuing, Financing & Trading 💵 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5241191.0)Active
31. Largo Coin[ANN] Largo Coin |PoS|Limited Supply|B2C|C2C| (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5200762.0)Active
32. Covir[ANN] Covid-19 : Covir.io tokenize(CVR) Biosafety licenses with Tezos Blockchain (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5243195.0)Active
33. OPP Open Wifi[ANN] OPP Open Wifi (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5246012.0)Active
34. PIVX LITE[ANN] PIVX LITE\POS v3.0\PIVX Masternodes\USB Tor\Mobile Wallets Soon (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5222955.0)Active
35. PYRK [ANN][PYRK][POW-MULTI][SHA][SCRYPT][X11][MASTERNODES][COMMUNITYFUND][EXCHANGE] (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5247112.0)Active
36. BITStorageИннoвaциoннaя биpжa кpиптoвaлют - BITStorage (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5228414.0)Active
37. CryptoNight[ANN] [CryptoNight] BminerCoin - Heavy mining and remote control (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5248281.0)Active
38. AffilCoin🚀AFFILCOIN: STAKE & DELEGATE |DPoS|🔥PROFIT-10% a month|🤑PROMO-EARN 100k COINS (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5225266.0)Active
39. ZenLedgerDo I really have to pay taxes on crypto investments? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5230635.0)Active
40. Bitwings[ANN][PRIVATE-SALE][IEO] BITWINGS: OFFICIAL CRYPTOCURRENCY OF WINGS MOBILE (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5133411.0)Active
41. DSF[ANN] DSF - The SoFi Blockchain - Redefine Social Network with Blockchain (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5256136.0)Active
42. HEX2X[ANN] HEX2X - A lucrative, high-interest currency, designed to reward stakers (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5256614.0)Active
43. EURST[ANN] EURST ~ Eurst Cryptocurrency Technology Driven Services (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5257525.0)Active
44. V SYSTEMS[ANN] V SYSTEMS - Blockchain Database and App Platform by Sunny King [SPoS/Mint] (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5095853.0)Active
45.L2L Token[ANN] [IEO] [p2pb2b] | 30% Bonus | L2L Token | Sustainable World (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5179650.100)Active
46. Spectre.aiBINARY OPTIONS SIGNALS EPIC 400% TRADER GROUP - HIGH ACCURACY SIGNALS 24 HOURS (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5256462.0)Active
47. SIMBA Storage🔥[ANN]SIMBA Storage-Stablecoin baked by Bitcoin Satoshi (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5260057.0)Active
48. SIMBA Storage (Russian)🔥[ANN]SIMBA Storage - Cтeйблкoин Oбecпeчeнный Caтoши  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5260056.0)Active
49. Center Coin🔥 [ANN] Center Coin provides users with optimized assets services. �� 🔥 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5262053.0)Active
50. TimeCoinProtocolTimeCoinProtocol - decentralized sharing economy protocol (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5260205.0)Active
51. Crypto Cricket Club 3CsCrypto Cricket Club 3Cs  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5256127.0)lActive
52. ZORROMASSIVE BREAKTHROUGH - BIRTH OF PRIVACY COIN ZORRO (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5259409)Active
53. Minereum[ANN] Minereum - 🔥 MNE STAKING IS LIVE! 1000% REWARDS + 60% REFERRER BONUS 🔥 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4495159.0)Active
54. COREGROUP[ANN][PRE SALE] COREGROUP.CC - Decentralized Software Solutions Platform (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5262597.0)[/url]Active
56. ShareRing[ANN][SHR] ShareRing - The world's first trusted token for sharing services (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2977847.0)[/url]Active
57. Xtake🔥[ANN] IEO starts on July25] [XTK] -Xtake.cash - Universal Blockchain Income 🔥 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5262767.msg54813153#msg54813153)Active
58. MonolithMonolith - the first decentralized ruble stablecoin (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5263945)Active
59. Monolith (Russian)Monolith - пepвый pyблeвый cтeйблкoйн (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5264044)Active
60. ReapChain🌟 [ANN][REAP] ReapChain - Secure and Transparent Blockchain-Based IoT Ecosystem (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5260297.0)Active
61. ZYX NETWORK[ANN] ZYX NETWORK - A GROUND-BREAKING POS-BASED PRODUCT FOR A WIDE AUDIENCE (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5265765.0)Active
62. tap[ANN] tap - Access to crypto trading and banking | Mastercard Approved (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5140307.0)Active
63. PHORE BLOCKCHAIN[PHR] PHORE BLOCKCHAIN - Private Decentralized Marketplace & Ecosystem. POS/MN (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3179265.0)Active
64. Posbit[ANN]🏆 PosBit-Safe and reliable exchange for crypto and main fiat currencies 🏆 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5266103.0)Active
65. PayAccept🔵🔵🔵[ANN]🔵 PAYACCEPT- WORLDWIDE PAYMENTS ACCEPTED IN SECONDS! 🔵🔵🔵 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5258011.0)Active
66. Unitrade[ANN][Exchange] Unitrade - a DeFi Exchange Platform  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5269697.0)Active
67. Fetch.aiFetch.ai and Bitfinex announce trading competition and catalyst sale (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5270135.0)Active
68. Free2exFree2ex – is a legally regulated European cryptocurrency platform (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5262757.0)Active
69. UncommonUncommonn is a platform connecting vendors and customers   (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5272737.0)Active
70. JBOXCOIN【ANN】JBOXCOIN - JBOX - Listed 2 Exchange and Airdrop is Live (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5269656.0)Active
71. AmepayAMEPAY is a fast and secure cryptocurrency-based payments alternative (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5266054.0)Active
72. EGGSBOOK🔥🔥 EGGSBOOK TOKEN - A COMMON CRYPTO-CURRENCY FOR P.O.P. BASED GAME 🔥🔥 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5274807.0)Active
73. BaexBaex dApp - Trade traditional stocks directly through the blockchain (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5278713.0)Active
74. UCACOIN[ANN][POS] UCACOIN - Community Coin ICO Upcoming (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5207542.0)Active
75. Winz.io🚀 WINZ.IO 🚀 MACAU QUEST 🎁 UP TO 6 BTC BONUSES 🥇🥈🥉 €1000 SLOTS BATTLE (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5239387.0)Active
76. Bonfi[ANN] Bonfi (BNF) - Innovating DeFi (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5279586.0)Active
77. EXOLOVER[ANN] EXOLOVER - First Decentralized Sex Platform (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5275623.0)Active
78. BambooDefi[ANN] BambooDeFi: Staking, Farming & Raindrop ecosystem. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5286017.0)Active
79. FinminityFinminity. DeFi Finance solution for Community based crowdfunding (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5286246.0)Active
80. Ideaology[ANN] Ideaology - Turning Bright Ideas into Awesome Crowdfunding  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5285038.0)Active
81. Totem[ANN] Totem - platform for trading of DeFi and derivatives (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5280601.0)Active
82. Investro[ANN] Investro - THE NEXT STEP IN AUTOMATED SOCIAL TRADING (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5287186.0)Active
83. Base Protocol Base Protocol: HOLD ONE TOKEN - HOLD ALL TOKENS (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5283589.0)Active
84. Sylo[ANN][TGE][AIRDROP] Sylo - decentralised communication network and ecosystem (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5034972.0)Active
85. Rubic 🎲 Rubic 🎲 Multichain DeFi platform (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5292869.0)Active
86. Cryptoenter[ANN] Cryptoenter - THE WORLD'S FIRST DEFI SERVICE ON THE ENTERPRISE BLOCKCHAIN! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5288767.0)Active
87. Xeniumx[Ann] ⭐️ XENIUMX ⭐️ ⚡ Digital Asset eCommerce Token ⚡ ⭐️ (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5299019.0)Active
88. XPocketxpocket - The one-stop solution for your crypto assets (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5292404.0)Active
89. Mirror Protocol[ANN] Mirror Protocol Launch - Trade real-world assets with crypto now! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5291553.[/url)Active
90. Workbit[ANN] Workbit - Freelance platform (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5306152.0)Active
91. BUMO[ANN] BUMO - Public Blockchain for Ubiquitous Value Transfer (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5308064.0)Active
92. UBERSTATE[ANN] UBERSTATE — a leader in banking as a service for crypto currency! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5309383.msg56108302#msg56108302)Active
93. Axentro[ANN][IEO]Axentro - An original, proof of work Blockchain for decentralised Apps  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5310598.0)Active
93. Moss.earth[ANN] 🌳🌳🌳Moss.earth - The world's largest environmental platform (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5300666.0)Active
94. Cryptocurrency MarketCCM Cryptocurrency Market 'Defi' (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5313071.0;topicseen)Active
95. Beatbind [ANN] Beatbind - HELPS CREATE THE MOST MEMORABLE MUSIC EVENTS ON EARTH!  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5313929.0)Active
96. WorldToken[ANN] WorldToken — a unique platform that combines the best tokenomics of curren (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5312779.0)Active
97. CENTUS CENTUS is a new stablecoin on the Stellar blockchain (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5314951.0)Active
98. Beatbind Beatbind - HELPS CREATE THE MOST MEMORABLE MUSIC EVENTS ON EARTH! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5313929.0)Active
99. Aladdin Exchange98. Pre-Register on Aladdin Exchange to Receive 100 TNC Coins (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5312387.60)Active
100. SOCIETATIS[ANN] [SCTS] SOCIETATIS - Democratic crypto currency for society 4.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5314120.0)Active
103. CRP[CRP]Self-funded and Released Utopia P2P ecosystem and Crypton privacy coin (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5286191.0)Active
103. Chaingateway⛩️ Chaingateway.io - Blockchain API for Ethereum and Tron 🔥 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5277218.0)Active
104. QUASA[ANN] QUASA OPEN LOGISTICS BLOCKCHAIN PLATFORM (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2351950.0)Active
105. Paradice✅ Paradice.in | 🍀 Provably Fair 🎲 | Rain☔| 30 sec Faucet | 1% House Edge 💰| (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5206291.0)Active
106. LOUVRE FINANCE [ANN]LOUVRE FINANCE - Disrupting The NFT Industry   (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5344225.0)Active
107. MINTO[BTCMT] Minto – mining token secured by actively operating mining equipment (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5343302.0)Active
108. CosmicSwap [ANN]CosmicSwap - The Galaxy Of Yield Farming. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5341623.0)Active
109. Synthesis Bank [ANN]Synthesis Bank - YOUR DECENTRALIZED FINANCES! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5344544.0)Active
110. ARTEXANN]ARTEX - World's first and only blockchain based artpiece exchange platform. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5341142.0)Active
111. Direwolf [ANN]Enough with all the dog coins. It's time to unleash the Direwolf! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5340781.0)Active
112. Rocketbit[ANN]RocketBit - You are one pace away from starting you crypto journey! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5341697.0)Active
113. Low Orbit Crypto CannonANN]Low Orbit Crypto Cannon - is a crypto deflationary token (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5336734.0)Active
114. CHIPS [CHIPS] PROFIT WITH US! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5331681.0)Active
115. EDUFEX[ANN]EDUFEX - Blockchain Enabled Platform of E-learning. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5336991.0)Active
116. VIDIACHANGE (LA VIDA)[ANN]VIDIACHANGE (LA VIDA) - stands firmly in support of financial freedom (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5335467.0)Active
117. Labra[ANN] Labra - Deflationary DeFi - Meme Token, from the DeFi enthusiast community  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5334805.0)Active
118. $NEWINU[ANN]$NEWINU - is a deflationary meme DeFi coin with ARF technology built in  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5341681.0)Active
119. Gaugecash[ANN]Gaugecash - First DeFi Monetary System (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5344829.0)Active
120. Gaia[ANN]Gaia - is a decentralized autonomous organization (DAO)  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5340737.0)Active
121. Ugly Inu[ANN]Ugly Inu is a community-driven project with big ambitions (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5341894.0)Active
122. ShinChan[ANN] ShinChan - Best community out there is building its foundation! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5341249.0)Active
123. CBK Token[ANN]CBK Token -The Producer to open up innovative methods (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5340979.0)Active
124. SafePepe[ANN]SafePepe - meme token on the Binance Smart Chain driven by the community (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5336781.0)Active
125. Travel[ANN]Travel-Set up a Free Travel Futures Wallet to keep your Travel Assets Safe  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5343760.0)Active
126. CredefiCredefi combines the best practices of DeFi and traditional finance (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5330290.0)Active
127. ClickPadClikPad: World’s first Multi Chain Powered AI Launchpad for IDO,IFO & NFT (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5347044)Active
128. OUDToken[ANN] OUDToken - Real Green Cryptocurrency | PRE-ICO TOMORROW 🚀 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5349579.0)Active
129. MELD[Ann] MELD- the first DeFi, non-custodial, banking protocol (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5352612.0)Active



This list is far from complete and it will be constantly updated, so if you see that i missed some ANN, maybe some that  doesn't deserve to be on this list or that is not active any more, please let me know and it will be updated ASAP.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on March 28, 2020, 04:54:45 PM
Project nameAnnouncement  threadStatus
130. K-Base[Ann] K-Base presents The Great Vault Dalí Challenge! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5354840.msg57708190#msg57708190)Active
131. IMM Global[ANN] IMM Global - Insurance of Market Maker (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5350622.0)
Active
132. Micro SantaAnn] Micro Santa is coming to town with a bag full of gifts!  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5375167.0)
Active
133. Shibmas Inu [Ann] Shibmas Inu - the token that gives you presents every day!  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5375363.0)
Active
134. QUPPY[ANN] QUPPY - Multicurrency cross-platform cryptowallet of your tomorrow  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5000438.0)
Active
135. NEXT Smart Chain[Ann] NEXT Smart Chain - #Ethereum 2 with lightning transactions and low costs! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5374662.0)
Active
136. Virvia[ANN] Virvia - New Generation eCommerce Payment System!  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5355014.0)
Active
137. Decentralized FutureDecentralized Future! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5375513.0)
Active
138. BlueEarthProtocol[Ann] BlueEarthProtocol - is a Dual-Chain Hyper Deflationary Token! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5373141.0)
Active
139. Kaizilla[Ann] Building a blockchain-powered metaverse with real-world use case KAIZILLA (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5375776.0)
Active
140. Rebellion ProtocolRebellion Protocol (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5373869.0)
Active
141. Bit Lounge[Ann]Online service platform to create a secure and smart ecosystem- Bit Lounge! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5374836.0)
Active
142. Avalon[ANN] Avalon - semi-open world adventure MMO! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5377100.0)
Active
143. Crypto Jackpot[ANN]Crypto Jackpot - The first decentralized global lottery! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5375339.0)
Active
144. NFTCRAFT GAME[ANN] 🎮NFTCRAFT.GAME🎮 Play-to-Earn 🔸 with ~150% APY 🔥All NFT backed by ETH🔥 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5374787.msg58598005#msg58598005)
Active
144. Dogyrace [Ann] A dog racing game based on RNG technology and built on BSC - DogyRace!  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5375199.msg58607290#msg58607290)
Active
145. Axes Metaverse [Ann] Axes Metaverse is a blockchain-based meta-universe created by Azur Games!  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5375197.msg58607182#msg58607182)
Active
146. ALF Finance💎ALF.Finance💎|PancakeSwap Live Now🚀|ALFGAME soon🔥|x50 potencial🚀🚀🚀 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5377081.msg58795283#msg58795283)
Active
147. MetaLoop Tech[Ann] The new Metaverse project -MetaLoop Tech! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5375367.msg58838440#msg58838440)
Active
148. Quarashi Network[ANN] Quarashi Network - One Product with Different Core Components (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5343987.0)
Active
149. AdLunam[ANN]AdLunam - The industry’s first NFT-integrated Engage to Earn seed crowdfund (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5377168.0)
Active


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: ERC20 on March 28, 2020, 06:39:40 PM
I found same discussion regarding bump services or fake volume ANN thread here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5235657.0)
i saw you don't list another thread that were suspected of using bump services. please add this thread to your list:

ILCOIN ANN thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5156245.1420)
proof: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5235169

Pyro network ANN thread
Old thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5215017.0 (locked)
New thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5221130.0
the funny thing is the dev clearly saying if he use a service that he call a "marketer" or in other words use bump services. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5221130.msg53721391#msg53721391)  :D

MADANA ANN thread
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4796017.msg53916938#msg53916938
Starting pages number 11 to the rest, you will see the the dates gap more than six month from last post and these thread become the place shit poster from newbies.

i will update if i found new one.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: sujonali1819 on March 28, 2020, 07:29:47 PM
Great job OP. Thanks for listing these threads in one place so that people would become aware of these shady projects. But I missing something here. Maybe you should add the links where people are discussing it. I mean a thread link that is previously created in Reputaion.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on March 28, 2020, 07:34:54 PM
ILCOIN ANN thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5156245.1420)
proof: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5235169
I considered adding ILCoin to the list as it was recently discovered that they are using one of those services, but since their ANN is locked now and they can't continue with that practice, there is no point to add them now.


Pyro network ANN thread
MADANA ANN thread
Both of these are indeed bumping their threads via fake conversations, but they are inactive for some time, and as  I mentioned in the first post, i focused on those that are currently active. But I'll keep an eye on both of these that you mentioned, and if they reactivate, I'll add them.


i will update if i found new one.
Thank you, I appreciate all the help!


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: sujonali1819 on March 28, 2020, 08:08:42 PM
You can take a look on [ANN] BURSTEX.io - Crowd Owned Exchange - Profits Shared Among Token Holders  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5218386.msg53629907#msg53629907)
Most of the Crybet Ann bumpers were bumping Burstex.io ann thread with unnecessary replies. Most probably Burstex.io also used the bump service. But not sure.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on March 29, 2020, 08:12:46 AM
You can take a look on [ANN] BURSTEX.io - Crowd Owned Exchange - Profits Shared Among Token Holders  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5218386.msg53629907#msg53629907)
Most of the Crybet Ann bumpers were bumping Burstex.io ann thread with unnecessary replies. Most probably Burstex.io also used the bump service. But not sure.
Yeah i know about Burstex, they definitely used bumping services, i reported (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4720640.msg53721506#msg53721506) their activities 2 months ago in SpamBuster thread. Looks to me like they stopped 10 days ago so I won't include them for now, but that can always change.



Update:
New ANN added to the list. Same accounts that were working on Burstex and Crybet are now working on the HEX.
[ANN] HEX - Investment platform of the new generation  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5234620.0)



Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on March 30, 2020, 05:05:28 PM
3 new ANNs added to the list:

[ANN] Emirex Official - The Infrastructure for the New Digital Economy (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5179932.0)
Emirex has been using bumping services for quite some time. Bunch of their posts were reported and  deleted, accounts tagged etc, but they don't give up, they just keep churning out new posts no matter what.

[ANN] 🔶🔶🔶 Prizm Cash - SAME SAME, BUT DIFFERENT 🔶🔶🔶 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5235724.0)
Prizm Cash ANN is new, but they already started with bumping services. Accounts that are active there are also writing on several others from the list, like ROMAD, Weemat, SUR, EDC Blockchain. Same thing is going on in Prizm ANN located in the Russian board.

[MainNet Stage] Cocos-BCX‘s First Batch of 38 Ecosystem Buidlers & Angels List (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5235613.0)
Cocos-BCX has old ANN thread  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5139871.0)where they massively used bumping services for months, despite reports and tags, but they stopped with that some time ago. What's even worse is that they were doing that while they are listed on the Binance. That just shows how you can't trust some project just because you can trade their tokens on known exchange. You simply have to do your own due dilligence.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: TopTort777 on March 30, 2020, 08:43:37 PM
You can add [ANN]🌱TreeCoin 🌿 Зeлёный Пapaгвaй для зeлeнoгo бyдyщeгo 🌱 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5224070.0) to the list. Topic is in russian language, but it is obvious that it is filled with newbie account Q&A all the time. Bumping has stopped after all the newbie account got negative trust and OP was warned to be redtrusted if bumbing doesnt stop. Project has english ANN, but is it silent.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on March 31, 2020, 04:53:05 PM
You can add [ANN]🌱TreeCoin 🌿 Зeлёный Пapaгвaй для зeлeнoгo бyдyщeгo 🌱 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5224070.0) to the list. Topic is in russian language, but it is obvious that it is filled with newbie account Q&A all the time. Bumping has stopped after all the newbie account got negative trust and OP was warned to be redtrusted if bumbing doesnt stop. Project has english ANN, but is it silent.
Good to hear that you managed to stop those spammers by tagging them. But since they stopped, no point including them on the list now. Maybe that could be a solution, tagging the account who created ANN until he forces them to stop.



Since this thing is going on in the local boards as well, there are 2 new additions to the list, Russian versions of the ANNs that were previously on the list, SUR and PZM Cash, same group accounts of accounts that are bumping English threads are doing in the Russian part as well.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: dkbit98 on March 31, 2020, 11:06:48 PM
Nice work OP.
I bet there a lot more of this bumping services  waiting to be discovered soon.
Maybe people can report them all here for update


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on April 03, 2020, 10:04:54 AM
I bet there a lot more of this bumping services  waiting to be discovered soon.
Yep, this list is just tip of a iceberg I think, plenty of more hiding and doing the same thing, waiting to be discovered. But I think that list is getting shorted compared to few months ago when I first started looking and reporting those thread bumpers.

Maybe people can report them all here for update
Of course, that's one of the goals of this thread, to try identify as many as possible, and for that you need help of the others.



Another ANN added to the list, thanks to @iasenko who reported one old thread that is being bumped for a  few years one, and made by questionable account.
[ANN][PRE-ICO] 🚀🚀 ModulTrade : The Freedom To Trade 🚀🚀  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2240518.0)



Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on April 06, 2020, 08:43:59 AM
2 announcement threads added to the list.

🛡️ Cleobet.io - New licensed Bitcoin sportsbook - 🎁 100% deposit bonus  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5237705.0)
As explained in this post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5237723.msg54160859#msg54160859), it is pretty obvious that they hired the service to promote/defend their project.

[ANN][AAB] AAX - The World’s First Digital Asset Exchange by LSEG Technology (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5236459.0)
I reported their activities in Spambusters  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4720640.msg54160604#msg54160604) thread. Basically, bunch of newbie accounts conveniently woke up after some time, and suddenly writing in AAX thread, having those classic fake conversations.



I might start changing status of some ANN on the list from active to inactive,  as few (e.g. Crybet) are giving up it seems, after getting posts deleted and accounts tagged.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Lauda on April 06, 2020, 09:12:27 AM
First time I see this thread, very nice!

I might start changing status of some ANN on the list from active to inactive,  as few (e.g. Crybet) are giving up it seems, after getting posts deleted and accounts tagged.
If you run an update, then we can evaluate which projects need to be flagged based off of your list.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: wwzsocki on April 06, 2020, 02:04:29 PM
OP I think you should keep close attention to [CLUB] The SpamBusters... (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4720640.0) thread because with a lot of success we are investigating all sorts of abuse, especially bumping and other forms of spam.

There are constantly new ANN threads taking under the microscope and of course, many of them are obviously breaking the rules using alt accounts or bumping services.

I think it could be a good source of information to make this list of "ANN threads that are using bumping services" even more accurate.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on April 06, 2020, 07:36:31 PM
OP I think you should keep close attention to [CLUB] The SpamBusters... (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4720640.0) thread because with a lot of success we are investigating all sorts of abuse, especially bumping and other forms of spam.

There are constantly new ANN threads taking under the microscope and of course, many of them are obviously breaking the rules using alt accounts or bumping services.

I think it could be a good source of information to make this list of "ANN threads that are using bumping services" even more accurate.
Yeah I know about Spambusters, I've been active there for a few months now, since I started with spambusting/scambusting activities, and it is indeed a good place to  share findings and ask for advice. One of the few threads that are on my watchlist.



Update

Two announcement threads from the list changed their  status to "Inactive"
  • Crybet stopped with their bumping activities 2 weeks ago, soon after being busted for plagiarized content, accounts tagged and bunch of posts deleted
  • Cleobet decided to lock the thread, therefore no point being marked as active for now.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: hosseinimr93 on April 13, 2020, 08:16:26 PM
You can add the following ANN thread to your list.

[ANN][WSLT] White Stripe Lottery | Changing the view of gambling (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5234254.0) (Archived (http://archive.is/d3PVX))

Users below have made all of their posts in this thread.

kattymellon (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1649800): 6 posts
asbestovskii (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1704710): 5 posts
milashka_love (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1704691): 5 posts
Elena0212 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2668867): 4 posts
rin0902 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1704604): 4 posts
mabbang (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1704753): 3 posts
pedro_gonzalez (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1704741): 3 posts
doryankhan (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1649395): 2 posts


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: marlboroza on April 13, 2020, 09:46:33 PM
It is really hard to prove, but while researching one bump account I got to this topic [ANN] [EXCHANGE] Atomars - Fast and Secure Digital Assets Exchange Platform] (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5185050.0) (http://archive.is/CcWUM). I start reporting accounts but there are just so many of them. If they hired bump service they hired really bad one because most posts are something like "good project", so maybe they are doing this by themselves, who knows... Anyway, I am going to report all other accounts to mod gang.

Some of accounts use quotation bump, like these for example:

https://i.imgur.com/lGuCai0.png

Good topic btw.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on April 15, 2020, 08:56:28 AM
You can add the following ANN thread to your list.

[ANN][WSLT] White Stripe Lottery | Changing the view of gambling (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5234254.0) (Archived (http://archive.is/d3PVX))
This one is definitely being bumped by sock puppet accounts, thanks, added to the list! It's interesting that they are using old accounts that just woke up in order to spam WSLT thread, and they are writing exclusively there. Who knows, maybe they think that way it's less suspicious..



It is really hard to prove, but while researching one bump account I got to this topic [ANN] [EXCHANGE] Atomars - Fast and Secure Digital Assets Exchange Platform] (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5185050.0) (http://archive.is/CcWUM).
Yeah this one is a bit harder to prove as they didn't bump much, and mostly did 1-2 posts with each account. Also, i couldn't find much connection between them, like working toegther on some other projects.

If they hired bump service they hired really bad one because most posts are something like "good project", so maybe they are doing this by themselves, who knows.
Yeah that might be the case too, as they mostly wrote just basic one-liners. Even if they did use bumping service, they are not doing it at the moment, it seems, so I will wait a bit to see what will happen and whether they reactivate before adding it to the list.



Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on April 19, 2020, 08:26:23 PM
Three new announcement threads added to the list today:

1.[MASS] Decentralized HARD DRIVE mining cryptocurrency | PoC | Low Energy cost (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5230593.0)
Another ANN that hired known bump group that is working on several other threads.

2. [ANN][FUND]🚀🚀🚀A Smart Index Fund for everyone | BETAFUNDS 🚀🚀🚀 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5240988.0)
This is 2nd BetaFunds Ann, since they deleted first one after I reported them for plagiarized content. They removed plagiarized content, but something else was discovered by @morvillz7z- they have fake team member photos as well. For those that want to check more info and support the flag, here is the thread
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5239245.0

3.[ANN] [CHND] CashHand (The Next Giant E-Commerce) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5228772.0)
CashHand made ANN few months ago, but they started shilling their thread today with bunch of newbie accounts, and for some reason in Portuguese language



 [MainNet Stage] Cocos-BCX‘s First Batch of 38 Ecosystem Buidlers & Angels List  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5235613.0) thread has been deleted, so their current status has been updated as well.



Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on April 24, 2020, 10:50:56 AM
Few changes on the list:

New ANN added, [ANN]✅TOZEX ✅- CryptoAsset Platform for Issuing, Financing & Trading 💵 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5241191.0)
Same accounts that are working on Cocos BCX and Goldario are writing  there too, with the help of few brand new accounts, that were actually made in 2018/2019, but just now woke and started writing their first posts there.

 [MainNet Stage] Cocos-BCX‘s First Batch of 38 Ecosystem Buidlers & Angels List  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5235613.0) was deleted some time ago, but they have another thread with the same name where they keep doing the same thing - shilling Cocos BCX, so instead of that thread, I've put the link of the new one (number 21 on the list). That's one of the weirder cases, as that project is already listed on exchanges like Binance, so I am not sure what they can gain from hiring bumping service.



Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: hosseinimr93 on April 29, 2020, 10:54:20 PM
Another thread which is using bumping services is Largo Coin (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5200762.0). (Archived (http://archive.is/hasZ1))
The thread was created on November 2019. It got no attention until April 22, 2020, when some newbies registered on forum and became active in their thread.

All accounts below registered on April 21 and have posted only in Largo Coin (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5200762.0) ANN thread.

Lowitalk (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2796692)
henderyjeno (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2796686)
adorabledumba (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2796677)
Silver Harith (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2796682)
Anthony Henderson (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2796680)
Sumooo (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2796687)
sheyso (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2796679)
cecyargh (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2796696)

6 more accounts registered on April 23 and started posting in their thread.

Sumoryl (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2797501)
taehyungs (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2797563)
ponisash (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2797561)
ireneairin (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2797585)
Lorainewaltz (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2797646)
yoandritsoony (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2797574)


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on April 30, 2020, 06:43:18 AM
Another thread which is using bumping services is Largo Coin (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5200762.0). (Archived (http://archive.is/hasZ1))
The thread was created on November 2019. It got no attention until April 22, 2020, when some newbies registered on forum and became active in their thread.
Thank you, Largo Coin added to the list. Something fishy is definitely going on there, as all those newbie accounts didn't come by pure chance, and it coincides with them starting to pump their coin like crazy. According to CMC, Largo Coin ROI at the moment is 2,656.32% and I seriously doubt that number. With few other red flags like no team (at least no real identity) and promise of few other top exchanges, to me  this looks like another pump&dump scheme.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on May 14, 2020, 04:02:14 PM
Two new announcement  threads added to the list of projects that are hiring bumping service:

[ANN] PIVX LITE\POS v3.0\PIVX Masternodes\USB Tor\Mobile Wallets Soon (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5222955.0)
PIVX thread as made few months ago, but since they didn't get any attention, week ago they decided to get some by hiring this so called "maketing  agency" to help them attract  some interest. Accounts that are active on their thread are working on Relictum, Index Chain, MASS etc.


[ANN] OPP Open Wifi (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5246012.0)
OPP thread has been spammed by newbie accounts with either newbwie accounts that woke up just to write there, or accounts that are working on several other projects that hired the same service ( Cocos-BCX, Goldario, Covir.io ) and are already on the list.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: lovesmayfamilis on May 14, 2020, 05:59:42 PM
It seems that this Russian theme also uses a bumping service.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5228414.40


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on May 21, 2020, 07:10:11 PM
It seems that this Russian theme also uses a bumping service.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5228414.40

Yep, they are using that service for sure, bunch of newbie accounts writing oneliners. BitStorage ANN has been added to the list.

Another ANN has been added,  [ANN][PYRK][POW-MULTI][SHA][SCRYPT][X11][MASTERNODES][COMMUNITYFUND][EXCHANGE] (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5247112.0).
Beside having scam accusations for plagiarized whitepaper, PYRK team decided to hire known bumping service that is also working on several others ANN that are already on the list,  like Cocos-BCX, OPP Open Wifi, Covir.io etc


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on May 29, 2020, 07:26:08 AM
Two new ANN threads have been added to the list:

37. [ANN] [CryptoNight] BminerCoin - Heavy mining and remote control  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5248281.0)
As explained in this post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4720640.msg54484239#msg54484239) from SpamBusters topic, it is an obvious case of thread bumping, that is still going on.


38. 🚀AFFILCOIN: STAKE & DELEGATE |DPoS|🔥PROFIT-10% a month|🤑PROMO-EARN 100k COINS (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5225266.0)
Beside being generally shady project with affiliate shenanigans, there are also several red flags that point to use of bumping service:
  • almost no activity for the first few months since ANN creation, and then suddenly week ago thread got significant increase in activity
  • thread full of one liners and quote pyramids
  • accounts used are Newbie rank made in 2018/2019 with no prior posting history
  • majority of accounts are also bumping another project that is already on the list, Tozex (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5241191.0)



Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: dkbit98 on June 02, 2020, 12:30:25 PM
Can you check and add this topic for MARTKIST coin?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5219308.0

Topic is full of pyramid posts from members like escalante28 and others.
Not sure they use some bumping service or not.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on June 04, 2020, 02:25:26 PM
Can you check and add this topic for MARTKIST coin?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5219308.0

Topic is full of pyramid posts from members like escalante28 and others.
Not sure they use some bumping service or not.
I noticed that activity in Martkist ANN as well, but since I am not 100% certain that they hired someone to do bumping for them, I didn't include them on the list. At least not for now, but I wilk keep an eye on them.

There are some connections though with another suspicious thread that might have hired someone, Stake TERN on BlockCard For The Best Crypto Debit Card (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5250185.0). For that thread there is more evidence, but gonna observe it for a while, before adding it to the list



Update

Goldario ponzi scheme ANN thread has been deleted, therefore current status has been changed to reflect that.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: FatFork on June 13, 2020, 02:38:45 PM
@Rikafip, can you check this ZenLedger service ANN thread: Do I really have to pay taxes on crypto investments? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5230635.0) by zenledgerio (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2772074)

As far as I can see, all posts in the whole thread are made by only six newbie accounts and bumping is active to this day.
These are all old accounts that woke up recently in order to spam ZenLedger thread (exclusively):
minereu.com. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=333974)
OneMillion (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=23476)
TimeWarped (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=378949)
PocketAces (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=365135)
1Excalibur (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=506462)
moonsock891 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=263066)



Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on June 13, 2020, 05:17:58 PM
@Rikafip, can you check this ZenLedger service ANN thread: Do I really have to pay taxes on crypto investments? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5230635.0) by zenledgerio (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2772074)
As far as I can see, all posts in the whole thread are made by only six newbie accounts and bumping is active to this day.
Yep, without a doubt ZenLedger hired bumping service to promote their project, as I can see those accounts worked on several other threads in the past, like Amfeix and Lukki exchange among others,  for which they got tagged .

Good find, ANN added to the list!


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: dkbit98 on June 17, 2020, 08:26:31 PM
I can't find Bitwings ICO on the list.
It is obvious they are using bumping services.

One thing should also be noticed:
This guy cooltoadfrommoon (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=288471) is part of some bump squad,
but it is very easy we may see him in DT default trust soon, because he has +1 trust from DT1 member  EcuaMobi (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=169515) from year 2014.
Look at his post history:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=288471;sa=showPosts
archived: http://archive.vn/vuyMv

This guys are also part of same squd (merit abuse included)
NITER2018 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2384329)
tex173 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2656096)
prettiestgirl (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2123670)
...

Also connected with higher ranked members like kpcian (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=879468) that is banned now
and some others also...


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on June 18, 2020, 07:07:53 PM
I can't find Bitwings ICO on the list.
It is obvious they are using bumping services.
They are indeed using bumping service, and for quite some time. I've been planning to add them for some time, but somehow i forgot, thanks for reminder, Bitwings added  to the list, as 40th ANN identified and accounts tagged!


Also connected with higher ranked members like kpcian (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=879468) that is banned now
and some others also...
Yep, all merits came from few banned accounts. It is either same group, or account sale. In any case, it is an obvious merit abuse.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on June 20, 2020, 08:45:43 AM
Two more ANN  threads added to the list:

[ANN] DSF - The SoFi Blockchain - Redefine Social Network with Blockchain (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5256136.0)
Recently made self-moderated announcement thread, with bunch of newbie accounts made in 2018/2019 with no prior activity suddenly  woke up and decided to spam this thread. It is obvious that they hired one of those bumping services. Posts are constantly reported and deleted, let's see when they give up.


[ANN] HEX2X - A lucrative, high-interest currency, designed to reward stakers (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5256614.0)
Same situation like in DSF case -  Newbie accounts made few years ago sudenly woke up and are spamming HEX2X thread


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on June 25, 2020, 06:58:33 AM
One more announcement thread added to the list

[ANN] EURST ~ Eurst Cryptocurrency Technology Driven Services (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5257525.0)
Beside being busted for plagiarizing whitepaper from two different sources, EURST decided to go full retard as they hired bumping service to additionally promote this scammy project. So now they have red tagged newbie accounts spamming their thread and pretending to be interested, hoping to lure someone new and inexperienced.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on June 29, 2020, 04:11:07 PM
Three new additions to the list, still have no clue how those "marketing agencies" manage to sell that when it's so fake and totally ineffective.

[ANN] V SYSTEMS - Blockchain Database and App Platform by Sunny King [SPoS/Mint] (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5095853.0)
V Systems have their ANN for quite some time, and it looks like they used bumping service in the past and stopped,  but recently they reactivated. Accounts that are "working" in their thread are also active in another one on the list, Cocos BCX.

[ANN] [IEO] [p2pb2b] | 30% Bonus | L2L Token | Sustainable World (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5179650.100)
Similar situation like in previous case. Thier ANN is from previous year, but they recently started IEO on P2PB2B exchange, so decided to "spice" it up with some shitposting and spamming, courtesy of bumping service group. Accounts active there also worked on XBR and Arc Iris in the past.

BINARY OPTIONS SIGNALS EPIC 400% TRADER GROUP - HIGH ACCURACY SIGNALS 24 HOURS (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5256462.0)
Recently started ANN that didn't loose time-they saw that nooen commented in their thread for 10 days, so they decided to hire bumping service to fake hype and interest. Looks like the same one V Systems hired,  accounts active in Spectre.ai are also active there as well.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: examplens on June 29, 2020, 06:59:07 PM
~
[ANN] [IEO] [p2pb2b] | 30% Bonus | L2L Token | Sustainable World (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5179650.100)
Similar situation like in previous case. Thier ANN is from previous year, but they recently started IEO on P2PB2B exchange, so decided to "spice" it up with some shitposting and spamming, courtesy of bumping service group. Accounts active there also worked on XBR and Arc Iris in the past.
~

Check usernames of bump accounts in last pages. All accounts created 01. Jully, 02 Jully and 15. Jully. plus all of them use upper case in username. it is very likely all accounts have the same owner, the only question is whether they are property of this L2L Token, or they just use third part paid bumping service.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Fatemablabla on June 30, 2020, 06:33:10 AM
Another Ann Thread Using Bumping service:
Project: Clipx
Ann Thread link: [ANN] ⚡ [ICO] 🎬 clipX - E-Learning Platform on Blockchain (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5254282.0)
Archived link: http://archive.is/Z9f8I

This project is surely using ann Thread bumping service. Till 27th june that thread had only 22posts. But in last 2days this thread has been flooded by some newbie posts. All are 1sentence posts. And many accounts have only one post that are on this thread. In last two days the posts amount reached to 55 from 22. I think you should add this  too your list. Check the links thanks.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on June 30, 2020, 09:49:26 AM
Check usernames of bump accounts in last pages. All accounts created 01. Jully, 02 Jully and 15. Jully. plus all of them use upper case in username. it is very likely all accounts have the same owner, the only question is whether they are property of this L2L Token, or they just use third part paid bumping service.
Yeah those accounts were made in a bulk, and probably by the same person. I would say that they are part of the bumping group and not property of L2L as before they were active in their thread, they worked in few other ANN, specifically in Arc Iris, Marketpeak and XBR, and all those hired bumping service. If they were made by L2l, they would spam only there. At least that's the standard practice, from I noticed so far.


Another Ann Thread Using Bumping service:
Project: Clipx

This project is surely using ann Thread bumping service. Till 27th june that thread had only 22posts. But in last 2days this thread has been flooded by some newbie posts. All are 1sentence posts. And many accounts have only one post that are on this thread. In last two days the posts amount reached to 55 from 22. I think you should add this  too your list. Check the links thanks.
You are right, something fishy is going on there. At first it might look as they hired someone, but since post quality is so bad, it made me belive that they might organized an airdrop, and part of the requirement was to comment there. So I checked their telegram group, and it might be the case, but since airdrop finished, I can't be 100% sure. If they indeed gave tokens in an exchange for comments, that  was breaking of forum rules and for that admins delete such threads.

As you can see in the screenshot below, they didn't explicitly said to comment there in order to get tokens, but since they mentioned that there will be more airdrop rounds, gonna keep an eye on them so i can actually try that telegram bot, so see whether comments on bitcointalk are part of it.

https://i.postimg.cc/MHs5BrTd/air.jpg


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Fatemablabla on June 30, 2020, 03:30:45 PM
You are right, something fishy is going on there. At first it might look as they hired someone, but since post quality is so bad, it made me belive that they might organized an airdrop, and part of the requirement was to comment there. So I checked their telegram group, and it might be the case, but since airdrop finished, I can't be 100% sure. If they indeed gave tokens in an exchange for comments, that  was breaking of forum rules and for that admins delete such threads.

As you can see in the screenshot below, they didn't explicitly said to comment there in order to get tokens, but since they mentioned that there will be more airdrop rounds, gonna keep an eye on them so i can actually try that telegram bot, so see whether comments on bitcointalk are part of it.



I will keep an eye on them also. I think they are using service. Because some of the accounts are from 2014 but they are only posting on ann thread. So, those accounts must be the accounts of that service seller.
But you can also be right they might use the airdrop system to bump the thread. let's see the next round of airdrop.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on July 01, 2020, 08:45:18 AM
I will keep an eye on them also. I think they are using service. Because some of the accounts are from 2014 but they are only posting on ann thread. So, those accounts must be the accounts of that service seller.
But you can also be right they might use the airdrop system to bump the thread. let's see the next round of airdrop.
There is one more thing that makes me lean towards conclusion that this spam was made by airdrop: if you check that archived version of their ANN (since all those spam posts have been deleted now) you will see that most comments were very short, like "great project", "good project" "thanks" and similar spam. While posts made by bumping services are not much better, they are still  a bit longer, and usually made in form of question, so they at least write one whole sentence, and not word or two like it is usually the case with airdrop spam.

Anyway, let's see what happens when they start 2nd airdrop round.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on July 14, 2020, 07:57:47 AM
Two new announcement threads added  to the list, both are from the same project, Simba Storage.

🔥[ANN]SIMBA Storage-Stablecoin baked by Bitcoin Satoshi (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5260057.0)
🔥[ANN]SIMBA Storage - Cтeйблкoин Oбecпeчeнный Caтoши  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5260056.0)
Simba storage decided to use bumping service for both English and Russian threads, similar to what PZM Cash and SUR  are doing. Accounts that are active in SIMBA are also working on few other names on the list, like DSF and PZM Cash removing any doubt whether they are using their their own accounts or just hiring external party to do their dirty work.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: dkbit98 on July 14, 2020, 08:33:03 AM
OP can you please check out and watch for new ANN topic for Center Coin:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5262053.0

We are starting to see bunch of comments from newbie accounts.
They also did same commenting for some ESR coin.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on July 14, 2020, 08:39:46 AM
OP can you please check out and watch for new ANN topic for Center Coin:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5262053.0

We are starting to see bunch of comments from newbie accounts.
They also did same commenting for some ESR coin.
Yeah I noticed Center Coin just after I made this last update. It is also an obvious case of bumping. As you said, same accounts worked on ESR coin too, including the OP of Center Coin so no wonder that both of those ANN threads have similar design as well, since thye obviosuly hired the same marketing agency to create their ANN and provide some extra visibility or whichever  term they use to sell that useless spamming.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: FatFork on July 14, 2020, 09:23:53 AM
Rikafip, you can add the following ANN thread to your list:

TimeCoinProtocol - decentralized sharing economy protocol (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5260205.0)

Newbie accounts bumping this thread:

thannwhetemsols (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1748700)   - Date Registered: January 24, 2018   - 2 posts
buckprotfuti  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1746107)   - Date Registered: January 24, 2018   - 3 posts
ticoncterli  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1749176)   - Date Registered: January 24, 2018   - 3 posts
sunilnisha3  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2704953)   - Date Registered: October 29, 2019   - 3 posts
RGhozi  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2706382)   - Date Registered: October 31, 2019   - 2 posts
clearanerca  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1736157)   - Date Registered: January 23, 2018   - 2 posts
nitaccacen  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1745637)   - Date Registered: January 24, 2018   - 2 posts
niaprejcilli  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1737661)   - Date Registered: January 23, 2018   - 2 posts
olsurtepach  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1741092)   - Date Registered: January 23, 2018   - 2 posts
weioumeng4  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2707437)   - Date Registered: November 02, 2019   - 2 posts
Gungh0  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2700008)   - Date Registered: October 23, 2019   - 2 posts


Explanation by the OP of the ANN thread:
... It is likely that these new accounts are users who came for us from other social networks. We made an announcement and told our community about what we now have on bitcointalk. We are sure that over time they will get used to this forum.
... I am sure that all these people came to support us after we told them that we are now on this forum. I don’t think they’ve conceived anything bad.

I'm not buying it, though.  ;)


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: FatFork on July 14, 2020, 12:55:50 PM
Here are a few more threads for the list. They seem to be using the same bumping service.

 Crypto Cricket Club 3Cs  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5256127.0)

Newbie accounts bumping this thread:
bambaleyla4  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2820995)   - Date Registered: June 21, 2020   - 6 posts (previously bumping SENSITRUST thread)
Gregrson  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2820996)   - Date Registered: June 21, 2020   - 6 posts (previously bumping SENSITRUST thread)
manik111  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2819741)   - Date Registered: June 17, 2020   - 6 posts (previously bumping SENSITRUST and ETH2X.COM threads)
Kruc1k  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2819742)   - Date Registered: June 17, 2020   - 6 posts (previously bumping SENSITRUST and ETH2X.COM threads)
Pravin Kumar  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=53606)   - Date Registered: March 12, 2012   - 6 posts (previously bumping SENSITRUST and ETH2X.COM threads)
xavierScott  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=29106)   - Date Registered: June 24, 2011   - 6 posts (previously bumping SENSITRUST and ETH2X.COM threads)



 ⚡[ANN] ⚡SENSITRUST: The decentralized job marketplace ✅  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5235440.0)
It seems that bumping of this thread is not active at the moment.

Newbie accounts bumping this thread:
bambaleyla4  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2820995)   - 8 posts
Gregrson  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2820996)   - 7 posts
manik111  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2819741)   - 7 posts
Kruc1k  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2819742)   - 8 posts
Pravin Kumar  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=53606)   - 8 posts
xavierScott  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=29106)   - 8 posts
nico6616  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=28740)   - 7 posts (previously bumping ETH2X.COM thread)



 ETH2X.COM | ⭐Multiplayer ⭐ Ethereum Gambling (ETH) ⭐Roulette ⭐Low House Edge  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5254320.0)
Bumping of this thread is not active at the moment either.

Newbie accounts bumping this thread:
manik111  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2819741)   - 7 posts
Kruc1k  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2819742)   - 8 posts
Pravin Kumar  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=53606)   - 7 posts
xavierScott  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=29106)   - 7 posts
nico6616  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=28740)   - 7 posts


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on July 14, 2020, 04:50:53 PM
Rikafip, you can add the following ANN thread to your list:
TimeCoinProtocol - decentralized sharing economy protocol (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5260205.0)
Good find, TimeCoinprotocol has been added to the list.


Explanation by the OP of the ANN thread:
... It is likely that these new accounts are users who came for us from other social networks. We made an announcement and told our community about what we now have on bitcointalk. We are sure that over time they will get used to this forum.
... I am sure that all these people came to support us after we told them that we are now on this forum. I don’t think they’ve conceived anything bad.
Hah yeah, all those newbie accounts that were made in 2019 just suddenly decided to wake up, and without any prior activity started writing in their ANN. Yeah. I am not buying it either.


Here are a few more threads for the list. They seem to be using the same bumping service.
 Crypto Cricket Club 3Cs  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5256127.0)
Another obvious case, and another ANN added to the list, making it 51 so far.

Regarding the Sensitrust and ETH2X, I only add those ANN threads that are active at the moment of discovery, so I won't add those. At least not for now, but if they reactivate and continue using bumping service, they will be added for sure.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: dkbit98 on July 16, 2020, 09:05:50 AM
OP can you please check one more topic that maybe deserves to be added to the list of bumping services for using fake conversation?
MASSIVE BREAKTHROUGH - BIRTH OF PRIVACY COIN ZORRO:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5259409
Archive: http://archive.vn/3uhFN

Topic created by Mystic Zorro:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2824366


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: FatFork on July 16, 2020, 12:13:03 PM
OP can you please check one more topic that maybe deserves to be added to the list of bumping services for using fake conversation?
MASSIVE BREAKTHROUGH - BIRTH OF PRIVACY COIN ZORRO:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5259409
Archive: http://archive.vn/3uhFN

Topic created by Mystic Zorro:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2824366

There's definitely something suspicious about that one. Probably some kind of off-site bounty strategy.

Accounts bumping this thread:
NameRankDate RegisteredNo. of bumps
Supremacy1  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1968684)Jr. MemberMarch 23, 201827
ICO SUPPORTER (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2403930)NewbieSeptember 23, 201817
Ahlbie  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2610806)Jr. MemberMay 26, 20198
nyeffy  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2429007)Jr. MemberOctober 09, 201811
noma45  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2025710)Jr. MemberApril 11, 201815
bossU2Y (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1267915)Jr. MemberOctober 31, 20173
Xell  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=244086)MemberFebruary 08, 201418


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on July 16, 2020, 01:37:41 PM
OP can you please check one more topic that maybe deserves to be added to the list of bumping services for using fake conversation?
You were right, they are obviously using one of those bumping service. Bunch of the accounts that they are using  were inactive since October 2019, and then suddenly woke up and started spamming there. Their ANN has been added to the list.


There is one more new addition, making it 53 at the moment:
 [ANN] Minereum - 🔥 MNE STAKING IS LIVE! 1000% REWARDS + 60% REFERRER BONUS 🔥  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4495159.1060)
Minereum ANN was created long time ago, back in 2018, but recently they decided to increase the visibility of their project so they hired bumping group. Accounts that wre working on thier thread are alos active in DSF and SImba, two ANN threads that have been added recently to the list.

Same accounts possibly started working on Tranquility Audit Security ANN, but I will wait a bit to see to see what's going on before adding them as well.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: dkbit98 on July 16, 2020, 03:33:43 PM
You were right, they are obviously using one of those bumping service. Bunch of the accounts that they are using  were inactive since October 2019, and then suddenly woke up and started spamming there. Their ANN has been added to the list.


There is one more new addition, making it 53 at the moment:
 [ANN] Minereum - 🔥 MNE STAKING IS LIVE! 1000% REWARDS + 60% REFERRER BONUS 🔥  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4495159.1060)
Minereum ANN was created long time ago, back in 2018, but recently they decided to increase the visibility of their project so they hired bumping group. Accounts that wre working on thier thread are alos active in DSF and SImba, two ANN threads that have been added recently to the list.

Same accounts possibly started working on Tranquility Audit Security ANN, but I will wait a bit to see to see what's going on before adding them as well.
Some of this accounts should get feedback for using or providing bumping spam services.
Minerium is also having self-moderated topic and they have full control.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: btcltcdigger on July 16, 2020, 03:44:15 PM
...zip...

Minereum ANN was created long time ago, back in 2018, but recently they decided to increase the visibility of their project so they hired bumping group.

...zap....

This basically opens a whole new can of worms. If you want to ruin a projects reputation, say they're your competition, just hire a bumping service on their behalf and soon they'll be tagged as cheaters or at least shady.
Something to consider anyways


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on July 16, 2020, 06:15:52 PM
This basically opens a whole new can of worms. If you want to ruin a projects reputation, say they're your competition, just hire a bumping service on their behalf and soon they'll be tagged as cheaters or at least shady.
Something to consider anyways
I guess there is a chance for something like that to happen ( highly unlikely imho), but  but even then OP can report those spammy posts and mods will delete them, or in case of Minereum he can delete those posts by himself, as their thread is self-moderated, and it seems that he is not doing that.

Most of these altcoins are so bad that they don't even need some external enemy, their own incompetence and delusion are more than enough.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: DaveF on July 17, 2020, 12:10:47 PM
This basically opens a whole new can of worms. If you want to ruin a projects reputation, say they're your competition, just hire a bumping service on their behalf and soon they'll be tagged as cheaters or at least shady.
Something to consider anyways
I guess there is a chance for something like that to happen ( highly unlikely imho), but  but even then OP can report those spammy posts and mods will delete them, or in case of Minereum he can delete those posts by himself, as their thread is self-moderated, and it seems that he is not doing that.

Most of these altcoins are so bad that they don't even need some external enemy, their own incompetence and delusion are more than enough.

True, but some of them after being idle for a while all of a sudden have bumps and the OP / creators are nowhere to be seen.

Makes you wonder if some large bag holder someplace woke up, looked at a wallet filled with crap coins and thought, it's worth $100. If I dump another $100 into a bumping service I can get the price from BTC0.00000001 to 0.00000025 and make some money back.

Also, kind of wonder how many people are like me. Been in this game for a while and have their old favorite crap / junk coin that is worthless now, will be worthless later, but still enjoys playing with it. They make a post or two, and then the scammers / bumpers show up because they see an old cheap coin that they think they can buy & bump and make some money.

-Dave


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on July 17, 2020, 12:51:22 PM
Makes you wonder if some large bag holder someplace woke up, looked at a wallet filled with crap coins and thought, it's worth $100. If I dump another $100 into a bumping service I can get the price from BTC0.00000001 to 0.00000025 and make some money back.
True, that could happen as well, nothing really can surprise me anymore. In most cases projects hire those "marketing agencies" during ICO/IEO phase to get better ICOBench score or to simply increase visibility here, or in some cases they hire them when they have some big announcement like exchange listing, so they are looking for some extra hype. Good example for that is IndexChain (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5235506.0). They did some bumping earlier but they stopped, and now they announced listing soon, so they immediately started with the same practice again and now last few pages of their ANN is swarmed with newbie comments like this:

I'm waiting for all their new products))
This team looks very strong in the world of cryptocurrency 💪💪💪
Project will solve really important problems


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: FatFork on July 18, 2020, 11:46:42 AM
Here are a few more threads that deserve to be added to the list.

  • [ANN][PRE SALE] COREGROUP.CC - Decentralized Software Solutions Platform (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5262597.0) by coregroup (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2830227) (a self-moderated topic)
  • [ANN][SHR] ShareRing - The world's first trusted token for sharing services (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2977847.0) by ShareRing (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1841461)



Newbie accounts bumping these threads:
NameRank Date Registered
herve24 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2706008)Newbie October 31, 2019
trocginsmadci (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1747311)Newbie January 24, 2018
steckashutkinl (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2706439)Newbie November 01, 2019
renpaucanland (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1744263)Newbie January 24, 2018
baideodysme (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1740835)Newbie January 23, 2018
reletenta (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1745931)Newbie January 24, 2018
lkuninbeefpa (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1741600)Newbie January 23, 2018
shipil1991 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2703890)Newbie October 28, 2019
hersplencorre (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1742009)Newbie January 24, 2018
laigranaren (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1748951)Newbie January 24, 2018
aparravu2015 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2702673)Newbie October 26, 2019

All these accounts are also active (with the same pattern) in the V SYSTEMS ANN thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5095853.0) (already on the list). And, judging by the timestamp, all of them are under the control of one person.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on July 19, 2020, 02:31:14 PM
Here are a few more threads that deserve to be added to the list.
I have decided to wait a bit to see whether they continue with the spamming, and without of doubt they hired bumping servce. As you already connected, accounts used on both of those threads are also working another ANN already inlcuded on the list, V Systems.
List updated, COREGROUP and SharRing added to the list!


All these accounts are also active (with the same pattern) in the V SYSTEMS ANN thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5095853.0) (already on the list). And, judging by the timestamp, all of them are under the control of one person.
Indeed it looks like one person is behind that group of accounts, or at least same person creating all of those accounts.

When you see ANN thread that is just starting with thread bumping, it is a good idea to immediately report those spammy posts and who knows, maybe they give up soon, before they spam the shit out of the thread.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on July 24, 2020, 09:48:12 AM
One more announcement thread added to the list of those that are using bumping services:

🔥[ANN] IEO starts on July25] [XTK] -Xtake.cash - Universal Blockchain Income 🔥 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5262767.msg54813153#msg54813153)
Account used for bumping have a long history of such practice. Before Xtake, they worked on several ANN threads  like Goldario, Sensitrust, CryptoParadise, FSM and a few others, showing that it's not a coincidence that those accounts appeared on this thread as well.

Beside hiring bumping service, Xtake has few more red flags like organizing IEO without revealing the team, OP of their ANN has been tagged before for shilling/promotion of aa ponzi scheme known as Algo Hedge Fund (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5209867.new#new). All in all, dodgy project that should be avoided by everyone.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: lovesmayfamilis on July 24, 2020, 03:07:29 PM
The project that is today placed in Scam Accusations
Monolith Whitepaper is Plagiarized (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5264296.0)


Monolith - пepвый pyблeвый cтeйблкoйн (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5264044)
Monolith - the first decentralized ruble stablecoin (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5263945)


Newbie accounts with a very early registration date.

1. LaraSamr (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2596187)     May 08, 2019, 05:36:48 PM
2. tayyaba98311 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=49617)  January 12, 2012, 03:39:37 PM
3. Cayie (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=252711)              February 18, 2014, 05:54:16 AM
4. bobdmelton (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=52336)      February 21, 2012, 04:02:06 PM
5. GBGglenn (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=165790)      November 21, 2013, 07:02:39 PM
6. rampagewsu (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=24961)    June 17, 2011, 01:46:22 AM
7. yourshorter (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=32673)      July 07, 2011, 11:37:26 PM
8. Tert2012 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=58309)           May 20, 2012, 10:39:53 PM
9. agamimosh (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2556606)   March 04, 2019, 09:42:29 PM


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on July 27, 2020, 02:03:10 PM
The project that is today placed in Scam Accusations
Monolith Whitepaper is Plagiarized (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5264296.0)
Monolith - пepвый pyблeвый cтeйблкoйн (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5264044)
Monolith - the first decentralized ruble stablecoin (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5263945)
Thanks @lovesmayfamilis, both English and Russian announcement threads have been added to the list. All that negative attention from copied whitepaoerr wasn't enough for them. Instead sorting that out, they decided to go full retard and immediately started using those newbie accounts to promote both of their threads. I see that some account used were tagged years ago for promoting ponzi schemes. Old habits die hard I guess..



One more announcement thread  has been added
🌟 [ANN][REAP] ReapChain - Secure and Transparent Blockchain-Based IoT Ecosystem  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5260297.0)
Classic case of thread bumping-recently created accounts writing standard nonsense and fake interest.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: notblox1 on August 06, 2020, 12:17:04 AM
@Rikafip if you can please add topics I found that are using bumping spam services:

First topic is created by zyx_network (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2835399):
[ANN] ZYX NETWORK - A GROUND-BREAKING POS-BASED PRODUCT FOR A WIDE AUDIENCE (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5265765.0)  (archive) (https://web.archive.org/web/20200806000744/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5265765.0)

Same group is also bumping:
[ANN] tap - Access to crypto trading and banking | Mastercard Approved] (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5140307.0)
[PHR] PHORE BLOCKCHAIN - Private Decentralized Marketplace & Ecosystem. POS/MN.] (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3179265.0)
[ANN][SHR] ShareRing - The world's first trusted token for sharing services (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2977847.0)

Second is many topics created by member Cyberdapps (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1281372)
Satoshi Club x Zelwin AMA (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5266607)  (archive) (https://web.archive.org/web/20200805161403/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5266607.msg54933098)
Satoshi Club x Statera AMA  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5266388)  (archive) (https://web.archive.org/web/20200805161550/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5266388.msg54926151)
Satoshi Club x Dext AMA (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5264839)  (archive) (https://archive.vn/pmQGa)
Satoshi Club x BC Game AMA (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5264696)  (archive) (https://archive.vn/f7nny)
Satoshi Club x CEEK AMA (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5264278)  (archive) (https://archive.vn/nRdko)
Satoshi Club x Bitbns AMA (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5263621)  (archive) (https://archive.vn/VPPPi)
Satoshi Club x MANTRADAO AMA (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5263356)  (archive) (https://archive.vn/h2r8d)
Satoshi Club x Counos X AMA (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5262381)  (archive) (https://archive.vn/2PJPN)
Satoshi Club x RSK AMA (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5261255)  (archive) (https://archive.vn/cdGV2)
Satoshi Club x Particl AMA (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5258795)  (archive) (https://archive.vn/DDCiq)
Satoshi Club x Stonk AMA (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5258743)  (archive) (https://archive.vn/XKUzX)

Thank you!


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on August 07, 2020, 10:37:53 AM
@Rikafip if you can please add topics I found that are using bumping spam services:
You are right, all those mentioned are indeed using bumping services. I added ZYX NETWORK, tap and PHORE BLOCKCHAIN, while ShareRing was alreeady on the list, I added it few weeks ago.

Regarding  Satoshi Club series of ANN threads, they obviously  used bumping services but from what I could see none of them are active at the moment, so I won't add them on the list for for now (I focused only on those that are active at the time of discovery). I'll keep an eye on them, and if their status changes, they will be added as well.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: notblox1 on August 07, 2020, 10:43:08 AM
@Rikafip if you can please add topics I found that are using bumping spam services:
You are right, all those mentioned are indeed suing bumping services. I added ZYX NETWORK, tap and PHORE BLOCKCHAIN, while ShareRing was alreeady on the list, I added it few weeks ago.

Regarding  Satoshi Club series of ANN threads, they obviously  used bumping services but from what I could see none of them are active at the moment, so I won't add them on the list for for now (I focused only on those that are active at the time of discovery). I'll keep an eye on them, and if their status changes, they will be added as well.
Thank you!
For Satoshi Club ANN, user Cyberdapps (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1281372) is creating new topic all the time.
One example is most recent topic that created 3 days ago and bumped up today:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5266607.0
User jpsarma (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1705003) made 3 consecutive posts today in short time and Zygote59 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1842779) 3 before him


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on August 08, 2020, 04:56:28 PM
For Satoshi Club ANN, user Cyberdapps (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1281372) is creating new topic all the time.
One example is most recent topic that created 3 days ago and bumped up today:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5266607.0
Are you sure though that those accounts are shilling? I just checked Satoshi Club a bit and it seems that every few days they are promoting new project (for example today they made ANN thread for  Dash  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5267470.msg54957229#msg54957229)so they organize AMA, and choose few questions from the announcement thread (that might be even against forum rules, as it could be seen as giving incentive for writing in ANN thread)
I have to check a bit more to see what's going on there before adding them.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: notblox1 on August 08, 2020, 05:26:07 PM
Are you sure though that those accounts are shilling? I just checked Satoshi Club a bit and it seems that every few days they are promoting new project (for example today they made ANN thread for  Dash  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5267470.msg54957229#msg54957229)so they organize AMA, and choose few questions from the announcement thread (that might be even against forum rules, as it could be seen as giving incentive for writing in ANN thread)
I have to check a bit more to see what's going on there before adding them.
They are using same accounts for asking questions, but I did not dig deeper in telegram so I cant confirm.
Maybe there is some incentive, as they write several consecutive post (later edited or deleted by moderators)

List I made before:
List of members participating in this spam and only posting in Satoshi Club topics:
Jhonathanch (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2824957)
peterter (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2741863)
albert3990 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2799398)
albert3990abc (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2829008)
nyosant (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1832615)
mirsiyanova (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2168917)
Laitarouth1009 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2673385)
Thiyagusmart (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2684114)
bitmartbounty (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2290662)
kiwi206 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2132085)
hieuminh1704 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2828631)
idee002 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1209814)
let098765 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2795474)
KathDM (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2833233)
rachman mahesa (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1056290)
philicrohit (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1957244)
jpsarma (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1705003)
juanes (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1141629)
elissa (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1141497)
bennguyen (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1914465)
iuppik (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2168912)
saner2324 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2181823)
toanphamhd (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2684024)
Patty91 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2828770)
Zygote59 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1842779)
Cryptosats (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2823894)
Dragon_Super (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1320021)
LuisMe7 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2823952)
pubudu92 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1685433)
vicpocho (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2836159)
pedronino (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1911226)
justgata (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2835377)
coinrabbi (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2759259)

We will have the following structure:
Part 1️⃣: $100/6 users- We'll select 6 questions from the community. A user can post maximum 3 questions. 4 Questions will be selected from our website - please submit your questions on our official announcement at this link (https://esatoshi.club/ama-satoshi-club-x-dash-august-24th//) and 2 random questions will be selected from Bitcointalk thread, please post your questions in this thread.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on August 16, 2020, 10:00:17 AM
Two new announcement threads has been added to the list making it 64th and 65th so far.

[ANN]🏆 PosBit-Safe and reliable exchange for crypto and main fiat currencies 🏆 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5266103.0)
Generally it is very suspicious behavior to hire bumping services, and it is even more suspicious when exchange does that, like in Posbit case. They made ANN on August first and basically immediately newbie accounts started with their "work", pretending to be interested and asking those standard redundant questions.


🔵🔵🔵[ANN]🔵 PAYACCEPT- WORLDWIDE PAYMENTS ACCEPTED IN SECONDS! 🔵🔵🔵 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5258011.0)
PayAccept ANN has been made few months ago, but recently they started with thread bumping. Account used are active in Posbit and several other threads.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: notblox1 on August 16, 2020, 11:01:40 AM
[ANN]🏆 PosBit-Safe and reliable exchange for crypto and main fiat currencies 🏆 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5266103.0)
They made so many spam comments in only two weeks, mostly from newbie accounts, and now they have 13 pages of that shit in self-moderated topic.
Nobody should trust exchange like this, especially if you see their website and something like this mixed russian/english language:
https://posbit.freshdesk.com/support/solutions/articles/63000135362-kyc-aml

Same members bumping PosBit are also bumping Payccept.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on August 23, 2020, 10:31:21 AM
Latest addition to the list:

[ANN][Exchange] Unitrade - a DeFi Exchange Platform  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5269697.0)
As the name says, Unitrade is DeFi platform, build on top of currently very popular Uniswap. They are already trading on several exchanges, but they felt the need to hire one of those bumping services to hype the project further, like there is not enough hype going on around anything defi related. Accounts working on Unitrade are also active on Largo Coin ANN, doing the exactly the same thing.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on September 08, 2020, 05:24:14 PM
One more project that is using bumping service in order to promote thier announcement thread has been added to the list!

Fetch.ai and Bitfinex announce trading competition and catalyst sale (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5270135.0)
Fetch.ai has been going on for quite some time, since 2018, so it is not a new and inexperienced project, and they are even listed on some known reputable exchanges like Binance and Bitfinex. With that being said, I must say that i was surprised to see them opting for this kind of dodgy prmotion, where they hired one of those "marketing agencies" as they like to call themselves in order to promote their trading competition and another sale, instead going for some bounty or signature campaign as most of other legit projects do.

Accounts that have been used for bumping Fetch.ai are working on several others threads that are already on the list, like DSF and PayAccept. What people from Fetch.ai (and quite a lot of others from the list) probably don't understand  is that such services don't really care what they promote as long as they get paid, so they will gladly promote scam projecs too, and that can indirectly affect Fetch.ai.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: notblox1 on September 14, 2020, 09:07:50 PM
@Rikafip please consider checking and adding this topic for Free2ex exchange.
It appears they just started using bumping services, same as for Simba and similar topics.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5262757.0


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on September 19, 2020, 03:53:14 PM
@Rikafip please consider checking and adding this topic for Free2ex exchange.
It appears they just started using bumping services, same as for Simba and similar topics.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5262757.0
Hey @notblox1, first sorry for the late reply, somehow I missed your post.

Regarding Free2ex exchange, you are right, they indeed hired bumping service to promote their announcement thread as accounts use are active on several other threads, doing the same "work" so I added them on the list. Since they only started, If you have some free time, it wouldn't be bad idea to report those posts, they are basically just one-liners and will be deleted  if reported to mods.



That's not all for today, there is another addition

Uncommonn is a platform connecting vendors and customers   (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5272737.0)
Uncommon recently started thier IEO on Vindax (home of many dodgy IEOs) so they decided to spice up their announcement thread with fake conversations and hype. "Marketing agency" that is doing that for them is not very smart as some of the accounts used are already tagged for the same thing, so what they are actually doing is bringing negative attention to Uncommon.



Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on September 26, 2020, 09:36:43 AM
Two new threads have been added to the list:

72. 【ANN】JBOXCOIN - JBOX - Listed 2 Exchange and Airdrop is Live (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5269656.0)
Announcement thread has been created by a known shill account more than a month ago , but they didn't start with their "work" up until 2 weeks ago, when they realized that thread is not getting attention or traction so they decided to "spice it up" . Accounts used are also (or they were) active in few other threads that are already on the list, like Fetch.ai, ZYX, tap etc.


73. AMEPAY is a fast and secure cryptocurrency-based payments alternative  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5266054.0)
I've noticed Amepay and suspicious behaviour in their announcement thread some time ago, but somehow I forgot to include them in this list and now it's time to sort that out. Accounts used are also  active ins everal similar threads, like Uncommon, Monolith, IOOX..


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: icopress on September 27, 2020, 05:50:32 PM
73. AMEPAY is a fast and secure cryptocurrency-based payments alternative  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5266054.0)
I've noticed Amepay and suspicious behaviour in their announcement thread some time ago, but somehow I forgot to include them in this list and now it's time to sort that out. Accounts used are also  active ins everal similar threads, like Uncommon, Monolith, IOOX..
It seems to me that any DT contributor would agree with me that posting only one link to the ANN can only help promote your own thread. In addition, I noticed that you are adding quite a few threads to the list, (no archives, and not flagging OP accounts to protect other users). In your opinion, can DT tag them, relying only on your word?

Also, you can always report a violation to the moderators. There are example's (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2217507.0) when moderators deleted threads even with 100,000 views. Below I gave an example of how such reports might look, (If you need help creating reports like this, let me know).

Does the thread concern exclusively alts? Or can ANN Bumping related accounts also be published?


Below is an example.
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  • ANN: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5266054.240
  • Account OP: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2834123
  • Proof: https://archive.is/wip/LiURX
With the help of third parties, "ico bumping services" are used for their flows, which in itself is fraud. As a consequence, forced publications in ANN flows and the false, meaningless feedback. This means that the participants publish 70 - 80% of the messages in the streams of this project in order to get a larger stack. Thus, AMEPAY encourages "paid shill bumping" and creates for itself a fake noise. Below you can clearly see how it looks in reality.
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Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: nutildah on September 27, 2020, 10:09:06 PM
I don't think its a bad idea to tag bumper accounts if one feels strongly about it... I think it definitely solidifies the case for a tag if the same bumping service was found to have been bumping a scam project in the past. But in general, its the scams that tend to employ these types of services; whether or not the project account deserves a red tag I think should be based on more than simply using bumping services. In most instances it won't be hard to find evidence pointing to a scam -- its good to buffer a rating with additional evidence.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on September 28, 2020, 03:57:09 PM
In addition, I noticed that you are adding quite a few threads to the list, (no archives, and not flagging OP accounts to protect other users). In your opinion, can DT tag them, relying only on your word?
True, I do add a lot of them and despite that many go unnoticed as unfortunately this bumping scene is still alive and kicking, despite changes in bumping system. I do tag OP of those threads where I have more proof that it is a scam. Regarding archiving, if I ever have to provide an additional proof, I can use 53M posts! View unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5167469.0).


Also, you can always report a violation to the moderators. There are example's (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2217507.0) when moderators deleted threads even with 100,000 views. Below I gave an example of how such reports might look, (If you need help creating reports like this, let me know).
Yes I now that mods can delete threads if there is a proof that OP is paying for comments, but afaik, you have to have really strong evidence for that to happen. I report those when I have proof, I usually make post about it in [CLUB] The SpamBusters! Busting rule-breakers constantly (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4720640.0) and then report to the mods.

Regarding accounts that are used for shilling, as @nutildah pointed it out, I do tag them when there is a strong connection to scam promotion, like in this case I discovered today User NUMAS selling codes for "dirty" BTC with 50% discount. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5278680.0) where I tagged all bumping accounts involved. I used to tag them more often (as did others I think) but since those "marketing agencies" as they like to call themselves have unlimited amount of newbie accounts, they simply ditch those and start using new ones. And we are talking about hundreds or maybe even thousands of accounts used.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: icopress on September 28, 2020, 09:17:47 PM
I don't think its a bad idea to tag bumper accounts if one feels strongly about it... I think it definitely solidifies the case for a tag if the same bumping service was found to have been bumping a scam project in the past.
This is not entirely true, since we do not know who is running the "Bumping services", and we cannot know if their accounts have already received warnings or red flags.

But in general, its the scams that tend to employ these types of services; whether or not the project account deserves a red tag I think should be based on more than simply using bumping services. In most instances it won't be hard to find evidence pointing to a scam -- its good to buffer a rating with additional evidence.
True, I do add a lot of them and despite that many go unnoticed as unfortunately this bumping scene is still alive and kicking, despite changes in bumping system. I do tag OP of those threads where I have more proof that it is a scam. Regarding archiving, if I ever have to provide an additional proof, I can use 53M posts! View unedited/deleted posts (search per post, per user or per topic) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5167469.0).
Specifically, you are not allowed to give people any incentive to post insubstantial posts in your threads.
As The Pharmacist once said, it boils down to this: Shitposters write poorly-written posts, Shitposters produce vapid content.

But if you still don't have enough arguments to leave a red tag to the "bump'members" who buy and sell this shit as a service, you can just visit resources like "airdropalert, airdrops_io, etc". You just need to find conditions among the hosted airdrops that do not comply with the bitcointalk rules.
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Yes I now that mods can delete threads if there is a proof that OP is paying for comments, but afaik, you have to have really strong evidence for that to happen. I report those when I have proof, I usually make post about it in [CLUB] The SpamBusters! Busting rule-breakers constantly (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4720640.0) and then report to the mods.

Try sorting threads by number of views and you will see the ratio of posts / views. When I notice that the view-to-post ratio is less than 25/30, I will at least take a closer look at this ANN and see what the abnormal thread activity is based on. You can also leave a message in the thread itself, with a warning for the OP and for the Shitposters.

I mean, if you did a few of these simple things and, in addition to reporting, report it, the moderator will not pass by (at least this is the case in the Russian section). But if you still don't see enough evidence, you can PM me or this thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2217507.0), then I can dig deeper.




Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on September 29, 2020, 07:41:18 AM
I mean, if you did a few of these simple things and, in addition to reporting, report it, the moderator will not pass by (at least this is the case in the Russian section). But if you still don't see enough evidence, you can PM me or this thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2217507.0), then I can dig deeper.
From my experience, mods really need strong proof to delete topic, at least here in English part of the forum. Thing is, airdrop spam is usually easy as spot as posts are even more redundant than those made by bumping service, and usually there is some proof of posting incentive, whether through airdrop sites, or sometimes they advertise that in their telegram group, like in this example. In those cases, topics usually get deleted.

I noticed earlier today some spammy one liners on the 🔥🔥 [ANN]XTAKE: Universal Blockchain Income ✅✅ [1% DAILY REWARD] 🔥🔥  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5258394.0) thread.
At first I thought that  they hired really bad bumping service so I decided  to wait a bit to see how situation develops, but when I checked their Telegram group, what they are actually doing is giving 100 XTK tokens to everyone that leaves a comment on the ANN thread, therefore breaking forum rules.

https://i.postimg.cc/pXCyQG5H/UBI.jpg
https://t.me/xtakecash

Ann archived https://archive.fo/ybNxt




Two new threads added:

PrimeBit.com - P2P Exchange Platform for P2P Currencies, up to 200x leverage (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5173694.0)
Exchange platform that hired bumping service few days ago. Accounts used are also active in several projects that are doing the same thing, among them is one obvious scam, ZYX.

edit: Primebit was removed since they admitted and stopped with that activity.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5236143.msg55299874#msg55299874


🔥🔥 EGGSBOOK TOKEN - A COMMON CRYPTO-CURRENCY FOR P.O.P. BASED GAME 🔥🔥 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5274807.0)
Another thread that hired bumpers recently. I've tagged OP of that tread previously for impersonating another bounty management service. All the other threads where accounts are active have been previously added to the list.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: nutildah on September 29, 2020, 08:01:13 AM
I don't think its a bad idea to tag bumper accounts if one feels strongly about it... I think it definitely solidifies the case for a tag if the same bumping service was found to have been bumping a scam project in the past.
This is not entirely true, since we do not know who is running the "Bumping services", and we cannot know if their accounts have already received warnings or red flags.

Frequently this is the case but sometimes you do know who is running the bumping service. Let me introduce you to Vitor Services (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5160199.0). Whats interesting about them is some of their testimonials were written by team members of projects which had hired them here on the forum, so it was easy to trace them to that particular bumping service.

Furthermore, sometimes batches of accounts will overlap from thread to thread; meaning that it is possible to connect which threads have hired the service based on the accounts posting in them. Here is the best way to demonstrate a spam farm, by demonstrating the overlap between threads and the cluster of accounts:

https://i.imgur.com/jsHgqCQ.png


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Altcoin Reviewer on September 29, 2020, 12:32:57 PM
Another project with bumping services.

ANN BaexDapp - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5278713.0

Moderators should go hardline with projects doing these kinds of spams!



Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on September 30, 2020, 05:32:19 PM
Another project with bumping services.

ANN BaexDapp - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5278713.0

You are right, it is an obvious case of thread bumping. Majority of accounts used have been made few years ago and now they suddenly decided to appear on that thread and fake the interest and "working" mostly in that thread. Anyway, thank you for letting me know, Baex Dapp ANN has been added to the list.


Moderators should go hardline with projects doing these kinds of spams!
I agree that we should have stricter rules for this but well, it is what is, we can still reduce that spam by reporting posts as sometimes they get bored of that and give up. It is rare, but it happens.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: PrimeBitExchange on October 01, 2020, 07:59:41 AM
I mean, if you did a few of these simple things and, in addition to reporting, report it, the moderator will not pass by (at least this is the case in the Russian section). But if you still don't see enough evidence, you can PM me or this thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2217507.0), then I can dig deeper.
From my experience, mods really need strong proof to delete topic, at least here in English part of the forum. Thing is, airdrop spam is usually easy as spot as posts are even more redundant than those made by bumping service, and usually there is some proof of posting incentive, whether through airdrop sites, or sometimes they advertise that in their telegram group, like in this example. In those cases, topics usually get deleted.



Two new threads added:

PrimeBit.com - P2P Exchange Platform for P2P Currencies, up to 200x leverage (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5173694.0)
Exchange platform that hired bumping service few days ago. Accounts used are also active in several projects that are doing the same thing, among them is one obvious scam, ZYX.


🔥🔥 EGGSBOOK TOKEN - A COMMON CRYPTO-CURRENCY FOR P.O.P. BASED GAME 🔥🔥 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5274807.0)
Another thread that hired bumpers recently. I've tagged OP of that tread previously for impersonating another bounty management service. All the other threads where accounts are active have been previously added to the list.

I am writing regarding the quoted post.

Short description what happened:
One person from the team agreed to a test check of "Vitor Services" without consultation. He did it just before the weekend. The weekend made us realize what was happening late on Monday. In Tuesday immediately we resign of this unethical service. They stopped a few hours after our resignation.
At the moment, the entire thread has been almost completely cleared of Vitor posts, and the accounts are probably banned by moderators.
No one at PrimeBit is looking for such advertising services. It was a mistake resulting from poor verification of the company offering the marketing service.
Please try to understand this and we would be grateful if you will remove Primebit from this infamous list.

Let me know if you need additional information to make a decision.



Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: GazetaBitcoin on October 01, 2020, 01:25:12 PM
Furthermore, sometimes batches of accounts will overlap from thread to thread; meaning that it is possible to connect which threads have hired the service based on the accounts posting in them. Here is the best way to demonstrate a spam farm, by demonstrating the overlap between threads and the cluster of accounts [...]

This is just a small heads-up: I just reported all the posts (actually not all, but >99% of them) made by the 20 users mentioned by nutildah in that Excel file (around 350 posts). All of them were deleted by the mods already and the accounts are as clean as Brand New :) I'll take a look later over the other links mentioned below nutildah's post.

@nutildah, as a small note, you have the user medalizich noted twice in the Excel file :)

Edit: I just cleaned 3 more topics.

Another project with bumping services.

ANN BaexDapp - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5278713.0

I just reported 14 spams from the above mentioned topic. These were all the spam posts I found. Maybe others were deleted already.

Two new threads added:

PrimeBit.com - P2P Exchange Platform for P2P Currencies, up to 200x leverage (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5173694.0)
Exchange platform that hired bumping service few days ago. Accounts used are also active in several projects that are doing the same thing, among them is one obvious scam, ZYX.


🔥🔥 EGGSBOOK TOKEN - A COMMON CRYPTO-CURRENCY FOR P.O.P. BASED GAME 🔥🔥 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5274807.0)
Another thread that hired bumpers recently.

I just reported 22 spams from EGGSBOOK. These were all the spam posts I found. Maybe others were deleted already. I did not find any spam on PrimeBit. I guess this topic was already cleaned before the cleaner came in :)


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: nutildah on October 01, 2020, 09:42:45 PM
This is just a small heads-up: I just reported all the posts (actually not all, but >99% of them) made by the 20 users mentioned by nutildah in that Excel file (around 350 posts). All of them were deleted by the mods already and the accounts are as clean as Brand New :) I'll take a look later over the other links mentioned below nutildah's post.

Wow, great going, that's a lot of posts! Out of curiosity, when you report the posts, what comment do you give in your report? Do you write "Spam" or... what do you write? My top labels for reports of bumpers are:

low value post
spam
off-topic

sometimes if a post is particularly bad I'll write:

zero value post

"Low value post" seems to be my go-to.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on October 02, 2020, 06:36:54 AM
Short description what happened:
One person from the team agreed to a test check of "Vitor Services" without consultation. He did it just before the weekend. The weekend made us realize what was happening late on Monday. In Tuesday immediately we resign of this unethical service. They stopped a few hours after our resignation.
At the moment, the entire thread has been almost completely cleared of Vitor posts, and the accounts are probably banned by moderators.
No one at PrimeBit is looking for such advertising services. It was a mistake resulting from poor verification of the company offering the marketing service.
Please try to understand this and we would be grateful if you will remove Primebit from this infamous list.

Let me know if you need additional information to make a decision.
First of all, I am glad to see that you realized your mistake, admitted it and stopped with their "service". As a matter of fact, this is the first time since I created this thread that someone admitted hiring "marketing agency", and even naming. Because of that, and because you reacted relatively fast (in a matter of couple of days) I will remove your name.  Hopefully more names from the list will do the same and stop using these kind of services.

Regarding Vitor Services, they are known name here on bitcointalk, and they are responsible for majority of thread bumping on this forum. Almost every time when I add new thread to the list, it is possible to find connection with one of their older clients. By the way, how did they offer you this? Did they contact you directly on the forum (and if yes please share the account name) or it was done externally?



I just 22 spams from EGGSBOOK. These were all the spam posts I found. Maybe others were deleted already. I did not find any spam on PrimeBit. I guess this topic was already cleaned before the cleaner came in :)
EGGSBOOK just started with their bumping, so that's why I think number was so low, but from my experience it is a good thing to start reporting immediately as sometimes they just give u when they see that posts have been deleted regularly, basically on the daily basis. Regarding Primebit, I reported those few days ago, but there weren't many posts to begin with.



"Low value post" seems to be my go-to.
I am personally using " ANN bumping spam", and when I am cleaning thread that is proven scam,  use " ANN bumping spam, promoting scam". Those are my two that Im using in 99% of the cases when reporting this.



Latest addition, making it 74th on the list.

[ANN][POS] UCACOIN - Community Coin ICO Upcoming  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5207542.0)
As reported by @nutildah, they recently started with thread bumping. Some accounts used are new, and some  are part of previously tagged group of accounts that also abused merit system, among other things.

This farm is back, now spamming for a project called UCACOIN (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5207542). I'm gonna go ahead and tag all of them. One tag wasn't enough to stop them but maybe 2 will be, who knows.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: GazetaBitcoin on October 02, 2020, 07:29:16 AM
Wow, great going, that's a lot of posts! Out of curiosity, when you report the posts, what comment do you give in your report? Do you write "Spam" or... what do you write?

Hehe, thanks! I was in a sort of reporting frenzy these days. Actually, in less than 2 days I made almost 2000 good reports! I reported 718 posts of all users mentioned here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5278680.msg55284220#msg55284220), 870 posts of all users mentioned here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4720640.msg55289362#msg55289362) and ~350 more posts of all users mentioned here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5236143.msg55282345#msg55282345).

Regarding my comments for reports, they vary depending on the offense. I use the most the following ones:

- for newbies spam-bumping - "Zero value post"
- for OP spam-bumping - "Breaking rule 21. Old bumps should be deleted" or "Breaking rule 32. Posting multiple posts in a row"
- for casual spammers (those trying to farm their accounts with more posts or those trying to get more posts inside a signature / bounty campaign) - "Spamming with zero value posts, in various boards" or "Spamming with zero value posts, in various boards, in order to have more posts for the signature campaign he is a part of" or "Spamming with zero value posts, resurrecting old threads and breaking rule 32. Posting multiple posts in a row"
- for shillers - "Constantly shilling a website" or "Constantly shilling various websites".

EGGSBOOK just started with their bumping, so that's why I think number was so low, but from my experience it is a good thing to start reporting immediately as sometimes they just give u when they see that posts have been deleted regularly, basically on the daily basis.

I see they keep spamming the topic, I just reported now a few more posts of them. They must be kept under attention.

Latest addition, making it 74th on the list.

[ANN][POS] UCACOIN - Community Coin ICO Upcoming  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5207542.0)
As reported by @nutildah, they recently started with thread bumping. Some accounts used are new, and some  are part of previously tagged group of accounts that also abused merit system, among other things.

This farm is back, now spamming for a project called UCACOIN (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5207542). I'm gonna go ahead and tag all of them. One tag wasn't enough to stop them but maybe 2 will be, who knows.

I'll try to report all the posts made by the accounts mentioned by nutildah and all the other posts made inside the respective topics. However, I'm not sure how much time I'll have during the weekend. I'll see what I can do today.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: TheAndy500 on October 02, 2020, 08:30:45 AM
Short description what happened:
One person from the team agreed to a test check of "Vitor Services" without consultation. He did it just before the weekend. The weekend made us realize what was happening late on Monday. In Tuesday immediately we resign of this unethical service. They stopped a few hours after our resignation.
At the moment, the entire thread has been almost completely cleared of Vitor posts, and the accounts are probably banned by moderators.
No one at PrimeBit is looking for such advertising services. It was a mistake resulting from poor verification of the company offering the marketing service.
Please try to understand this and we would be grateful if you will remove Primebit from this infamous list.

Let me know if you need additional information to make a decision.
First of all, I am glad to see that you realized your mistake, admitted it and stopped with their "service". As a matter of fact, this is the first time since I created this thread that someone admitted hiring "marketing agency", and even naming. Because of that, and because you reacted relatively fast (in a matter of couple of days) I will remove your name.  Hopefully more names from the list will do the same and stop using these kind of services.

Regarding Vitor Services, they are known name here on bitcointalk, and they are responsible for majority of thread bumping on this forum. Almost every time when I add new thread to the list, it is possible to find connection with one of their older clients. By the way, how did they offer you this? Did they contact you directly on the forum (and if yes please share the account name) or it was done externally?


Hi, I will answer on behalf of PrimeBit. I run their signature campaign and support them in marketing.

Thank you for your understanding and positive reaction.

When it comes to contacting with "Vitor services" it was not via Bitcointalk. The first contact was via an email to the PrimeBit marketing department with the offer from https://vitor-services.company/ and it was a consequence of what happened in the official PrimeBit thread.
The second time they contacted directly with me two days ago (09/30/2020) via Telegram. I don't think they checked that I am working with PrimeBit. My answer wasn't rude, but they quickly realized what I think about their service.  ;) :D





Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: GazetaBitcoin on October 08, 2020, 06:40:15 AM
I found another ANN bumping thread, which I suppose is the 75th:

[Ann] WINSSHI 🔶 ⭐️ First Decentralised Gaming Platform ⭐️ 🔶 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5269444.0)

They are spamming since August. I reported some of the posts a while ago, hoping they will calm down. Apparently, they didn't. Can this topic be added to the OP as well and also kept under attention?


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on October 08, 2020, 11:40:28 AM
I found another ANN bumping thread, which I suppose is the 75th:

[Ann] WINSSHI 🔶 ⭐️ First Decentralised Gaming Platform ⭐️ 🔶 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5269444.0)

They are spamming since August. I reported some of the posts a while ago, hoping they will calm down. Apparently, they didn't. Can this topic be added to the OP as well and also kept under attention?
Hey @GazetaBitcoin, by the time i was about to add their ANN, mods deleted it. It looks like they organized giveaway in exchange for comments which is against forum rules, and on top of that had fake team and plagiarized whitepaper. Good riddance I would say.

What happened: Winsshi plagiarized whitepaper as well as fake team member.
Today they launch bitcointalk airdrop activity campaign in bounty thread. Task: User need to make good quality post in the official announcement thread. Something is absolutely prohibited in bitcointalk community. I think with this account profile is probably scammer.

Thanks for reporting anyway, and if you have some free time on your hands, there is a big group of bumping accounts that could use some post history cleansing ;)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5280712.0



Two new threads have been added to the list:

🚀 WINZ.IO 🚀 MACAU QUEST 🎁 UP TO 6 BTC BONUSES 🥇🥈🥉 €1000 SLOTS BATTLE (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5239387.0)
Winz.io is casino that employed bumpers for months now. Their bumpers tried to play smart game, didn't bump too much not to be too obvious, but still there is a proof of them working on several other threads that are previously on this list (Simba storage and Free2ex). Overall I identified 17 bumpers that worked on thier thread, but there might be more. Here is the thread about it Big ANN thread bumping group identified! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5280712.0)


ANN] Bonfi (BNF) - Innovating DeFi (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5279586.0)
DeFi projects are dodgy by default, so no surprise that they hired bumping service to help them in promotion. Overall, this one looks suspicous, so if ayone is willing to check it a bit, it would be nice


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: GazetaBitcoin on October 08, 2020, 12:43:59 PM
Hey @GazetaBitcoin, by the time i was about to add their ANN, mods deleted it. It looks like they organized giveaway in exchange for comments which is against forum rules, and on top of that had fake team and plagiarized whitepaper. Good riddance I would say.

As a coincidence, it seems it happened just after I finished reporting all the posts of the respective thread (164 posts).

Two new threads have been added to the list:

🚀 WINZ.IO 🚀 MACAU QUEST 🎁 UP TO 6 BTC BONUSES 🥇🥈🥉 €1000 SLOTS BATTLE (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5239387.0)

ANN] Bonfi (BNF) - Innovating DeFi (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5279586.0)

I just finished reporting all the bumps from the second thread, which means 21 posts. Curiously, I found a Hero member (gembira (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=258065) and a Sr. Member (kojektea (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=322463)) among the ones which posted there... I'm not sure if they were involved also in the ANN buimping operation or if it just happened for them to post as well... What do you think?

Regarding the Winz.io thread - man, but this one is huge! It has 36 pages... I just started reporting the spam, but I'm not sure when I'll finish though...

if you have some free time on your hands, there is a big group of bumping accounts that could use some post history cleansing ;)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5280712.0

Yes, I noticed earlier your post and I will take a look on all posting history of those accounts. Actually, as they are part of Winz.io thread, it means I'm taking care of them right now as we speak :)



Prior seeing these two ANN threads posted by you, an idea crossed my mind: to double check the 74 topics mentioned by you on the first page of the topic, in order to see if more spam occurred after the posts were listed. I started today, from the most recent topic mentioned - UCACOIN and I passed through 5 threads: UCACOIN, Baex, EGGSBOOK, Amepay and JBOXCOIN. If UCACOIN was clean, so far I reported for the other ones 480 posts (35 posts from Baex topic, 24 from EGGSBOOK, 224 from Amepay and 197 from JBOXCOIN). It seems that we have to be vigilant, as although those topics are mentioned by you, the ANN bumping doesn't stop. As soon as I'll finish with Winz.io I'll resume checking all the other 69 topics mentioned by you. It will be a huge work, but I hope that by next week to finish. Wish me luck :)



Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on October 10, 2020, 03:34:21 PM
Curiously, I found a Hero member (gembira (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=258065) and a Sr. Member (kojektea (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=322463)) among the ones which posted there... I'm not sure if they were involved also in the ANN buimping operation or if it just happened for them to post as well... What do you think?
I must  admit that I haven't noticed Gembira being unusually active, but I saw Kojektea many times before in various ANN thread. In my opinion that user is simply very active in altcoin board, so chances are his name will appear in those that hired bumping services too. On the other hand, I wouldn't be surprised if there is a group of high ranked accounts doing the same thing, but on a bit higher level, not spamming one liners, and not writing too often,  making it very hard to identify.


Regarding the Winz.io thread - man, but this one is huge! It has 36 pages... I just started reporting the spam, but I'm not sure when I'll finish though...
Yeah that one is big, as they worked there for a couple of months without being noticed. It;s no hurry though, as I can see they stopped with that now since they are tagged and Winz.io probably told them to stop as it doesn't  look when you have bunch of tagged accounts writing on the thread.


Prior seeing these two ANN threads posted by you, an idea crossed my mind: to double check the 74 topics mentioned by you on the first page of the topic, in order to see if more spam occurred after the posts were listed.
I do that from time to time, mostly to identify new ANN threads, as usually they use same accounts. Unless they get tagged, in that case they just ditch them and start using new ones and we know that's  not a problem as they have unlimited supply of newbie accounts.


It will be a huge work, but I hope that by next week to finish. Wish me luck :)
Good luck! :D


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: GazetaBitcoin on October 12, 2020, 07:54:23 AM
I see you reported some more posts from what I left behind from Winz.io, as their topic has now only 15 pages (I left it with 18). Great job, Rikafip!

Meanwhile I continued cleaning the ANNs mentioned in OP "from down to up", Fetch.ai being the last one. Free2ex was the only one clean. If you have time and if you will, you can make a double check on these ANN topics from OP, taking them "from up to down". So I finished the ones from 76 to 67 and I will go forward these days, hoping to cover as many as possible, in the same order. If you don't have time, it's OK, I'll keep doing it, but it will take more time. If others can give a hand it would be great, but just to mention which topics they pick for cleaning, in order to avoid to make multiple reports on same posts, for making the job easy for the mods too...


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on October 12, 2020, 08:47:56 AM
I see you reported some more posts from what I left behind from Winz.io, as their topic has now only 15 pages (I left it with 18). Great job, Rikafip!
I can't take credit for reducing Winz.io to 15 pages, someone else is responsible for that. I was mostly active in ZYX (my archenemy), Free2ex and Baex, since they are still churning out shill posts on the daily basis, while Winz.io stopped since I tagged those accounts. I tend to focus on currently active ANN threads (especially if they are straight up scams like ZYX) and then when that calms down I switch my attention to others.


If you don;t have time, it's OK, I'll keep doing it, but it will take more time.
I do report on the daily basis, but can't keep up with your numbers :)


If others can give a hand it would be great, but just to mention which topics they pick for cleaning, in order to avoid to make multiple reports on same posts, for making the job easy for the mods too...
Good suggestion, that way we would be able to cover more ANN threads. I think that was one of the main ideas of  The SpamBusters! Busting rule-breakers constantly. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4720640.0) was to divide and coordinate spam reporting an therefore make it more efficient but somewhere along the line that practice kinda stopped.



New addition to the list:

[ANN] EXOLOVER - First Decentralized Sex Platform (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5275623.0)
Same accounts that are working on recently  added Bonfi started their shilling on above mentioned Exolover. OP of that thread has been tagged for scam promotion in the past making it even more suspicious than usual.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on November 07, 2020, 08:49:44 AM
Two new threads have been added to the list

78. [ANN] BambooDeFi: Staking, Farming & Raindrop ecosystem. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5286017.0)
79. Finminity. DeFi Finance solution for Community based crowdfunding (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5286246.0)

Accounts working on these two threads are also active in two previously added threads, Bonfi and Exolover. Another thing that connects accounts working on these two ANN threads is the subtle way they promote BonFi, by casually sliding in Bonfi related articles in different non-Bonfi threads/conversations. Here is one example how that looks like, but there are more of that, done in the similar manner:

There value will surely dropped based on the numbers of these so-called DEFI projects are being pumped into cryptos market, taking a cursory look at the bounty section of the forum, there are many of them popping out daily, however some of the projects might survive based the bullish outlook of the market presently,  meanwhile some investors are always selective in DeFi projects.

I agree that the future of the projects depends too much from the future of the cryptocurrency market. If cryptocurrency market will raise it will be much more simple to survive to many projects. People will continue to buy tokens hoping that their price will raise in future. Now many Defi projects use staking system to encourage people to hold tokens. Here is an article about staking https://medium.com/bonfiorg/introducing-bonfi-web-staking-7368467d18cc

Sock puppet accounts used:
pintadj (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1725304)
purka5 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2863711)
Lite_bro (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2826044)
ewasegun11 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1971145)
pyroandy (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1907507)
nekonoid (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1616762)


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Altcoin Reviewer on November 12, 2020, 12:02:37 PM
ideaology - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5285038.0

Add them to your list. tons of new accounts popping up.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on November 12, 2020, 04:24:54 PM
ideaology - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5285038.0

Add them to your list. tons of new accounts popping up.
You are right, Ideaology indeed hired bumping service. Bunch of newbie accounts created years ago suddenly appears and started shilling the thread with those fake conversations. As usual, I've decided to check their post history to see whether they are working on some other project too, and it was no surrprise that they are doing the same thing for another ANN, [ANN] Totem - platform for trading of DeFi and derivatives (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5280601.0). That is some dodgy DeFi project with anonymous team, as always. I'll have to look into both of these to see whether I can find some more dirt. Where there's smoke, there's fire.

List has been updated with both of those names.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Stalker22 on November 13, 2020, 07:47:36 AM
[ANN] Anonyme - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5288431.0

A lot of paid shills are popping up these days. They're probably scammers too. As masulum reported (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5288431.msg55581499#msg55581499), they offer a reward to their zombie followers for writing "positive comments" in their ANN topic.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on November 13, 2020, 10:01:40 AM
[ANN] Anonyme - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5288431.0

A lot of paid shills are popping up these days. They're probably scammers too. As masulum reported (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5288431.msg55581499#msg55581499), they offer a reward to their zombie followers for writing "positive comments" in their ANN topic.

Damn, they managed to churn out more than 200 posts today when you look at https://loyce.club/archive/topics/528/5288431.html. Since Anonyme decided to give tokens in exchange for comments on the ANN as part of the bounty campaign, I won't add them to this list. Instead, I will report them (I don't know whether @Masulum already did that) to the mods for breaking one of the forum rules. Based on previous experience ANN will be either completely deleted or sent to Archive.

Most giveaway threads are no longer allowed in the Alternate cryptocurrencies sections. From now on, posting or replying to such threads could result in being banned. Existing threads will be locked.

Specifically, you are not allowed to give people any incentive to post insubstantial posts in your threads. You can't offer to pay people who post their addresses, usernames, etc. You can do giveaways off-site and link to the giveaway page in a thread, but you can't give people any bonus for replying to your thread.

And yeah, I agree this looks like  just another anonymous staking/lending platform that will perform one of those "rug pulls" at the right time. Scenario we've seen often lately.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: masulum on November 13, 2020, 03:05:27 PM
@Rikafip, yes I already reported the thread before I made a warning post there. Because the thread breaking the rules, no reason for me to not to report it. The post just to let them know if someday he creates another ANN thread not doing same (if they are serious with their project).

updates: recently recheck the thread, I see mod already cleaned up the junk posts there. maybe this is the last chance, if still open posts here as part of their airdrop, maybe better for mod to locked up the thread.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on November 16, 2020, 09:37:31 AM
updates: recently recheck the thread, I see mod already cleaned up the junk posts there. maybe this is the last chance, if still open posts here as part of their airdrop, maybe better for mod to locked up the thread.
Anonyme thread has been thrashed now, so all those hundreds of posts were in vain. I just wish mods nuked that thread sooner as it would save them some time from deleting hundreds of posts.



Two new additions to the list:

 [ANN] Investro - THE NEXT STEP IN AUTOMATED SOCIAL TRADING (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5287186.0)
Beside hiring bumping service to shill their thread, I tagged and flagged Investro for using fake team member photo. This is just another proof that scammers use  every method available in order to fool people, and while hiring bumping service may not be 100% proof that project is a scam, it is certainly a good indicator that something fishy is going on and calls for more in depth check up. If you dig deep enough, in most cases you can find some dirt. You can find more about Investro and their wrongdoings in this scam accusation topic (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5287894.0).

📢[ANN][PRESALE] Base Protocol: HOLD ONE TOKEN - HOLD ALL TOKENS | [BASE] 🚀🚀   (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5283589.0)
Same group of newbie accounts that are working on Investro are active in Base Protocol ANN. No further proof needed to see what's going on here.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: hosseinimr93 on November 26, 2020, 01:24:12 AM
You can add the following ANN thread to your list.
[ANN][TGE][AIRDROP] Sylo - decentralised communication network and ecosystem (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5034972.0)

Users below have made all their posts in that thread and are parts of the bumping group.

aljhon112233 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2192206) (Post history (https://archive.is/LDLTt))
ElegantCy1 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2848519) (Post history (https://archive.is/QylSA))
krysi3 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2867301) (Post history (https://archive.is/nbAir))
Moonicopter (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2867315) (Post history (https://archive.is/s8Pif))
rampartwalk (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2569777) (Post history (https://archive.is/IMKsE))
apostol999 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2867132) (Post history (https://archive.is/hN1Yf))
BlueSXXX (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2863072) (Post history (https://archive.is/BCBbq))
minic1993 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2866157) (Post history (https://archive.is/rDbWt))


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on November 27, 2020, 07:52:30 AM
You can add the following ANN thread to your list.
[ANN][TGE][AIRDROP] Sylo - decentralised communication network and ecosystem (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5034972.0)

Good finding, SYLO has been obviously shilled by those accounts you mentioned.There is some big gap in thread activity from July 2019 up until June 2020, but only recent.ly they decided to rehire shills to hype this shitcoin. It's interesting coincidence that June 2020 was exactly the time when their token reached ATH and since then it lost its value by more than 80%.

Beside Sylo, one more ANN has been added to the list. Rubic shilling started recently, and while they are mostly using new accounts (well made in 2019/early 2020 but with no prior activity) few of them are also active in another ANN that is on the list already (Totem).
🎲 Rubic 🎲 Multichain DeFi platform  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5292869.0)


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on December 09, 2020, 09:12:58 AM
One more ANN thread added to the list

[ANN] Cryptoenter - THE WORLD'S FIRST DEFI SERVICE ON THE ENTERPRISE BLOCKCHAIN! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5288767.0)
Bunch of newbie accounts that were made in 2018/2019 and had no prior post history suddenly woke up and decided to write exclusively in Cryptoenter thread, doing most basic shilling, writing one liners and pretending to be interested. It still baffles me how those "marketing services" manage to sell that to projects, don;t they see how fake that looks? Or maybe they are aware but simply don't care as  they want is to increase score in equally pointless and useless ICO tracking sites.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on December 20, 2020, 09:09:41 AM
Two new additions to the list

 [Ann] ⭐️ XENIUMX ⭐️ ⚡ Digital Asset eCommerce Token ⚡ ⭐️ (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5299019.0)
Beside hiring sock puppet accounts to fake the interest, XeniumX also completely plagiarized whitepaper of another project and is a work of a known and serial scammer Laurie Suarez. You can read more about it in scam accusation thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5299033.0).


xpocket - The one-stop solution for your crypto assets (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5292404.0)
XPocket is just another shitty DeFi that hired the same newbie accounts as above mentioned XeniumX. THose accounts are working exclusively in those two threads, and nowhere else. Another "coincidence" is that all those accounts are created in the last few days/weeks.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: DaveF on December 23, 2020, 02:27:19 AM
As I posted above I do tend to stay out of the Alts / tokens except for a few here and there.
But while sitting on hold I saw this thread and spent some time wandering around in there.
Wow, what a dumpster fire.

Looking at the bumps that these coins are getting I actually see them driving people away they are so bad.
Seriously, the crap that is being posted for no reason, since alt announcements are now sorted differently I just don't get.

Do they just not know?
Hell I'm surprised that members with bump power are not getting PMs all over the place offering BTC to bump their threads.

Sorry for the interruption of the thread, just has to vent a bit.

-Dave


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on December 23, 2020, 09:29:25 AM
Looking at the bumps that these coins are getting I actually see them driving people away they are so bad.
Seriously, the crap that is being posted for no reason, since alt announcements are now sorted differently I just don't get.

Do they just not know?
That is the question I often ask myself, don't they realize how bad it looks when you see bunch of newbie accounts writing mostly one liners and why would anyone pay for something like that when it won't even push the thread at the top of the board like it used to.

Kudos to "marketing agencies" that still manage to sell that, I would really like to hear the tactic. My guess is that they count on ignorance of those that are hiring them, as majority of them never visited bitcontalk before so they don't really know how things are done here, and how hiring shill service is perceived. They probably tell them "everyone is doing that" or "there is so much traffic on bitcointalk that this is the only way to stand out from others", or something along those lines.

Another thing they might use to sell this service is the fact that at least 2 ICO trackers that I know of are giving ratings based on bitcointalk ANN activities (ICObench and Foundico). Again, everyone that is long enough in crypto knows that those ICO tracking sites and ratings there are irrelevant, but I guess newbies don't know that, so yet again they count on ignorance.


Hell I'm surprised that members with bump power are not getting PMs all over the place offering BTC to bump their threads.
I would be surprised if that is not already happening, but maybe in a more discrete way. If something can be abused and monetized, most likely it will.



Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: DaveF on December 24, 2020, 12:35:24 AM
Hell I'm surprised that members with bump power are not getting PMs all over the place offering BTC to bump their threads.
I would be surprised if that is not already happening, but maybe in a more discrete way. If something can be abused and monetized, most likely it will.

Guess nobody loves me enough to offer me BTC to hit the bump button.
But, seriously you are correct in the fact that there are people here with a high enough rating that have good bump power who would not think twice about using it for pay.
Others might but would probably charge more then most of these people are willing to pay.

Some might come running out to say "project x offered me BTC to bump their posts"
However, the people who read those ICO / Token / type posts probably don't read much else on this board so it really would not matter.
And if they are smart they do it anonymously. So you have plausible deniability.

In your research have you found how much these bumping / marketing agencies charge?

-Dave


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on December 24, 2020, 02:18:19 PM
In your research have you found how much these bumping / marketing agencies charge?
Somehow I never thought of asking how much exactly do those "marketing agencies" charge when few admitted of hiring them, but there is one source that can give us some ballpark figure.

Some time ago @nutildah identified probably the biggest bumping service on the forum, Vitor Services (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5160199.0). In that thread you can see that they offer various packages, from 390 USD per month up to 1490 USD per month. In that cheapest package you get: 500 telegram members, 150 comments in telegram group and 100+ ANN thread comments. If they charge let's say half of that for only ANN thread comments, that's still decent amount of money for such a crappy job they are doing. 100 posts per month would make an average of approximately 3 posts per day, and from my experience frequency of those posts is much higher, so more expensive packages are probably more popular.

I called them probably the biggest group as I think that they are responsible for at least 50% of all bumping spam on the forum, and that is conservative estimate. If you dig deep enough you can connect their accounts to almost every newly added ANN on the list. They also like to use old newbie accounts made years ago, that's one of their "trademarks".


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: DaveF on December 24, 2020, 04:42:49 PM
$1500 a month for that kind of crap-show?
Wow, time to change my line of work.

If the posts al least did not totally suck OR if there were some users with some kind of quality behind them it would be different.
You would think that for that kind of money they could buy a few decent accounts to give some things some form of legitimacy.
But, I guess in the end it's just scammers scamming the scammers.

Merry Christmas.

-Dave


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: notblox1 on December 24, 2020, 05:14:58 PM
There are also people selling bump services very cheap on fiverr and other websites like that for few dollars, and with multiple accounts it is not so hard for anyone to do that because they don't need any higher ranked accounts for that.
Vitor services is next level stuff :)


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on December 28, 2020, 03:58:13 PM
You would think that for that kind of money they could buy a few decent accounts to give some things some form of legitimacy.
I have some doubts about certain group of higher ranked accounts being part of a more serious  bumping group that is doing that in a much better way than Vitor Services and similar spammers, but it is not easy to connect all the dots and say with 100% certainty who is part of the group and who is not.


But, I guess in the end it's just scammers scamming the scammers.
Merry Christmas.

You summed it up nicely, in most cases it boils down to that, dodgy projects hiring dodgy service. And Merry Christmas to you too!


There are also people selling bump services very cheap on fiverr and other websites like that for few dollars, and with multiple accounts it is not so hard for anyone to do that because they don't need any higher ranked accounts for that.
Vitor services is next level stuff :)
I just checked fiverr, and it doesn't seem so cheap. I saw packages like 10 posts for 17 USD and for me that's pretty expensive considering the lack of quality. It makes more sense to run BTC signature campaign that hire those spammers.



One more announcement thread has been added

[ANN] Mirror Protocol Launch - Trade real-world assets with crypto now! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5291553.0)
Same group of accounts that is working on xpocket and that scam XeniumX started working on the Mirror Protocol thread too. Since I tagged that group of accounts, as always they just activated another group of newbie accounts and continued in the same manner. Whack-a-mole goes on.



Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: LordShanken on January 07, 2021, 08:46:43 PM
The thread is full of comments from users whose accounts were created probably just to talk only about this project.
I don't know if someone has purchased bumping service or creates these accounts by himself, but it looks quite suspicious: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5305207.0


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: FatFork on January 07, 2021, 09:40:52 PM
The thread is full of comments from users whose accounts were created probably just to talk only about this project.
I don't know if someone has purchased bumping service or creates these accounts by himself, but it looks quite suspicious: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5305207.0

You are absolutely right. @Rikafip, you can add this thread to the list.
A bunch of newbie accounts that have been dormant since 2019 to suddenly start bumping this topic. Definitely some form of paid bumping spam 'service'.

[ANN][DeFi] The fastest way to earn DeFi passive income. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5305207.0)


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on January 07, 2021, 10:22:40 PM
The thread is full of comments from users whose accounts were created probably just to talk only about this project.
I don't know if someone has purchased bumping service or creates these accounts by himself, but it looks quite suspicious: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5305207.0
It indeed looks suspicious and upon checking their announcement thread and website I found the evidence of making commenting on Ann thread one of the requirements for their airdrop which is against the forum rules.

I reported the thread to moderators and hopefully it gets deleted soon.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: LordShanken on January 08, 2021, 10:16:58 AM
The thread is full of comments from users whose accounts were created probably just to talk only about this project.
I don't know if someone has purchased bumping service or creates these accounts by himself, but it looks quite suspicious: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5305207.0
It indeed looks suspicious and upon checking their announcement thread and website I found the evidence of making commenting on Ann thread one of the requirements for their airdrop which is against the forum rules.

I reported the thread to moderators and hopefully it gets deleted soon.

All shady comments from their thread have been deleted.

Now I also noticed that they received an unnatural amount of positive feedback in the "Trust" section within a few days. In my opinion, leaving a positive "trust" is also one of the requirements in some airdrop or campaign they are running:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=2109730


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on January 08, 2021, 10:39:10 AM
All shady comments from their thread have been deleted.
And the new ones keep appearing. I just don't understand why mods simply didn't delete/locked the thread as it is a a clear violation of bitcointalk rules, my report is still unhandled.

Specifically, you are not allowed to give people any incentive to post insubstantial posts in your threads. You can't offer to pay people who post their addresses, usernames, etc. You can do giveaways off-site and link to the giveaway page in a thread, but you can't give people any bonus for replying to your thread.

Similar threads are already restricted to Games and Rounds in the non-altcoin sections, but the giveaway-related post volume is so high in the altcoin sections that I've decided to just ban them entirely here.


Now I also noticed that they received an unnatural amount of positive feedback in the "Trust" section within a few days. In my opinion, leaving a positive "trust" is also one of the requirements in some airdrop or campaign they are running:
Yeah it is obviously connected to airdrop as same accounts that left comments on the thread also left positive trust feedbacks. If you check their website, you won't find that among the requirements so I guess they have at least that much brain not to ask for that openly but rather "under the table".


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: bakasabo on January 08, 2021, 11:07:32 AM
Hello Rikafip,

I think that [ANN] Workbit - Freelance platform (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5306152.0) belong to be in the list of using bumping service.

Topic is self-moderated, lots of old Newbie and Jr.Member accounts that started to post on January 4-5. They post only in this exact topic and create a conversation between each other. I've made a simple post with hint that might help project to improve, but it seems on purpose it was either ignored or got no reaction.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on January 08, 2021, 04:23:50 PM
Hello Rikafip,

I think that [ANN] Workbit - Freelance platform (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5306152.0) belong to be in the list of using bumping service.

Topic is self-moderated, lots of old Newbie and Jr.Member accounts that started to post on January 4-5. They post only in this exact topic and create a conversation between each other. I've made a simple post with hint that might help project to improve, but it seems on purpose it was either ignored or got no reaction.
You are absolutely right, they indeed hired bumping service and by the looks of it, they hired most popular one, Vitor Services. All accounts are at least few years, some are even from 2011 (I still wonder how they have so many accounts from that early bitcointalk period) and they are currently active only in Workbit announcement thread. Standard Vitor Services M.O.

Workbit thread has been added to the list, making it 90th entry since I started eight months ago, and that's just those were identified and reported here, who knows how many more are still undetected.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: posi on January 08, 2021, 05:06:32 PM
Hello Rikafip,

I think that [ANN] Workbit - Freelance platform (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5306152.0) belong to be in the list of using bumping service.

Topic is self-moderated, lots of old Newbie and Jr.Member accounts that started to post on January 4-5. They post only in this exact topic and create a conversation between each other. I've made a simple post with hint that might help project to improve, but it seems on purpose it was either ignored or got no reaction.
You are absolutely right, they indeed hired bumping service and by the looks of it, they hired most popular one, Vitor Services. All accounts are at least few years, some are even from 2011 (I still wonder how they have so many accounts from that early bitcointalk period) and they are currently active only in Workbit announcement thread. Standard Vitor Services M.O..
The ANN thread owner did do bumping services but it not mostly done by the Vitor Services cause some project owner do it by themselves, I an saying this cause I have seen a lot of fiveer users who offers services in selling forum account which I think they can easily buy and pump the ANN themselves, either way, it could the work of Vito but they are not always behind it.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: morvillz7z on January 08, 2021, 09:56:56 PM
The 'workbit' thread is likely connected to the guys with malware wallets/fake miners, i mean it has to be one of theirs, all of the evidence leads to them.

Accounts peter054 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=379208) and riefly (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=986648) have previously shilled in ZECZERO (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5282881.0), their wallets were detected to be malware:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5282881.msg55407165#msg55407165

riefly's first shill post (after almost 3 years pause) is here:

Attention Please!!! These guys stole my profile and post this topic. Please be aware of this project don't believe them.

^someone had their account stolen and fake ann with malware wallets posted on their behalf.


Most of the accounts in workbit thread are old, as pointed above, accounts who have woken up around the same time have posted malware:

bbtou (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=412206) - is an active poster in workbit thread
https://i.ibb.co/47Cdq0h/bbtou.png

Look what cdazzle, gunnit and merakesh have posted:
https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5601/56012436.html
https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5601/56012458.html
https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5601/56012472.html

One more example, capterra aged account shilling as well:
https://i.ibb.co/rZ4Skp2/captera.png

check out spaceman303 and bitcoinbroker's posts:
https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5602/56024524.html
https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5602/56024531.html


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on January 10, 2021, 07:08:04 AM
The ANN thread owner did do bumping services but it not mostly done by the Vitor Services cause some project owner do it by themselves, I an saying this cause I have seen a lot of fiveer users who offers services in selling forum account which I think they can easily buy and pump the ANN themselves, either way, it could the work of Vito but they are not always behind it.
Well of course they are not the only ones that are offering bumping, I know that there are many of them offering services via Fiverr, but somehow I doubt those have access to Newbie accounts made in 2011. When you look at these cases long enough you start noticing some patterns.  As I said, it looks like them but I can't be 100% sure that they are behind Upwork bumping but in the end it doesn't matter much who exactly is doing that.



The 'workbit' thread is likely connected to the guys with malware wallets/fake miners, i mean it has to be one of theirs, all of the evidence leads to them.
It's either them, or maybe they have the same account supplier. Someone had to think in advance and make all those accounts back in the early bitcointalk days and probably is selling them in bulk. Looks to me like they have unlimited amount of those old accounts as no matter how many of them get banned, new ones are constantly popping up.

But I think you are onto something here with Workbit-malware wallets connection  as I see Workbit ANN has been reported  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5182222.msg56055396#msg56055396)yesterday to have malware link so hopefully it gets deleted soon.



One more thread has been added to the list

[ANN] BUMO - Public Blockchain for Ubiquitous Value Transfer (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5308064.0)
Thread was created yestrday and almost immediately newbies started their work. Accounts used are also active on several other threads that are already on the list like Baex, Base Protocol, Investro, Totem etc.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Stalker22 on January 10, 2021, 10:18:43 AM
 As I said, it looks like them but I can't be 100 sure that they are behind Upwork bumping but in the end it doesn't matter much who exactly is doing that.

Exactly. It doesn't matter who does this, but it is important to identify and publicly denounce those projects. This is not marketing, but a scammy behavior, and no serious project is going to act like that.
It's just as bad as plagiarizing a white paper or having a fake project team. It's really good that you keep this topic up to date.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on January 16, 2021, 08:32:38 AM
Another thread has been added to the list, making it 92nd.

[ANN] UBERSTATE — a leader in banking as a service for crypto currency! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5309383.msg56108302#msg56108302)
https://archive.fo/VNBSY

Group of accounts that are working on two previously added announcement threads (Rubic and Totem) is active in Uberstate as well. Despite my warnings  in their thread, explaining them that the same service they hired promoted numerous scams and it won't bring them attention they aimed for, they decided to keep going with the thread bumping, therefore putting themselves on this list.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Theones on January 19, 2021, 06:49:32 PM
I wonder. Projects at the top of the list were given red trust and even red flags. However, it seems that for several months no one has paid attention to the projects that are added here. Does this mean that this form of marketing is starting to become acceptable?  ::) Apart from spam, of course.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: bakasabo on January 20, 2021, 02:25:04 PM
Another thread has been added to the list, making it 92nd.

[ANN] UBERSTATE — a leader in banking as a service for crypto currency! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5309383.msg56108302#msg56108302)

Just wanted to post this ANN topic here, but you have outstripped me :)

Funny so see how lazy this bumbing service is. They use same account posting sequence as in Totem. tiogallluli > maurearejumb > doubmiytiri > Akoan > leshogesan > Ronald22lubukuali ( easy to be noticed on Totem page 3 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5280601.40) and UBERSTATE page 1 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5279310.msg56133401#msg56133401)). Bumper probably has a excel document with login/password and just re-login by the list.

Strange that they have chosen tactics of just asking questions and OP is not answering them (must be lazy also).


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on January 20, 2021, 06:23:46 PM
I wonder. Projects at the top of the list were given red trust and even red flags. However, it seems that for several months no one has paid attention to the projects that are added here. Does this mean that this form of marketing is starting to become acceptable?  ::) Apart from spam, of course.
I generally avoid giving negative tags unless I can find something else suspicious about some of those projects that are on the list (and if you check there are quite a few of those that I tagged&flagged for other stuff) but it's up to the each member here to make that decision. Best would be to simply nuke the threads that consist solely of shill posts and that don't have any regular members active, but unfortunately my reports stayed unhandled so I guess forum staff doesn't agree with that.


Funny so see how lazy this bumbing service is. They use same account posting sequence as in Totem. tiogallluli > maurearejumb > doubmiytiri > Akoan > leshogesan > Ronald22lubukuali ( easy to be noticed on Totem page 3 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5280601.40) and UBERSTATE page 1 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5279310.msg56133401#msg56133401)). Bumper probably has a excel document with login/password and just re-login by the list.
Hah yeah, I wonder how much are they paying for such a shitty job these shillers are doing.


Strange that they have chosen tactics of just asking questions and OP is not answering them (must be lazy also).
On the contrary, I see that behaviour quite often, OP starting the thread and then abandoning while shills are doing their work for weeks without a single answer.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: icopress on January 22, 2021, 05:32:48 PM
I haven't updated my branch for a long time ... and since you update yours regularly, you should add the missing data. And I want to ask you to add "Proof" to the main line, (so that anyone can refer to proofs).

SNTX: Topics is active
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  • Profile: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2590716
  • ANN: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5179233.0
  • Proof: https://airdropalert.com/sentex-exchange-airdrop
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Comment on the BitcoinTalk post with positive feedback. ©SNTX
Sentivate: Topics is active
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  • Profile: Sentivate (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1718344)
  • ANN: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5043484.msg46488894#msg46488894, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5127091.msg50417137#msg50417137
  • Proof: https://archive.is/f6Zjb
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Matic Network: Creating a fake thread and profile.
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  • Fake website: https://maticnetwork.live
  • Proof: https://archive.is/SXQLW
  • Profile Bitcointalk: MaticNetwork (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2578162)
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  • Original website: https://matic.network/
Afincoin: 1/2 Threads deleted
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  • ANN: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5053312
  • ANN 2: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5096958
  • Legendary OP: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=109286 *Red
  • Proof: https://archive.is/wpWaH
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Cures Token:  Topic deleted.
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  • ANN: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5046075.0
  • ANN 2: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5069816.msg47929983#msg47929983
  • Account OP: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2159255
  • Proof: https://archive.is/Dfc7i
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Go to Bitcointalk and write a valuable comment. Submit the link of your comment. © Cures Token
Unification: Topic deleted
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  • ANN: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5067598.0, https://archive.is/bVxia
  • Account OP: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1976388
  • Proof: https://archive.is/Tsl92
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Post a positive message about unification and your Telegram username on this Bitcointalk thread © Unification
Copytrack: 1/2 Threads deleted.
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  • ANN: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2618918.0, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2613681.0
  • Account OP: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1357120
  • Proof: https://archive.is/stPg8
AMEPAY: Topics is active, Updated
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  • ANN: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5266054.240, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5280826
  • Account OP: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2834123
  • Proof: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2544574.msg55246760#msg55246760, https://archive.is/wip/LiURX


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on January 22, 2021, 06:27:27 PM
I haven't updated my branch for a long time ... and since you update yours regularly, you should add the missing data.
When I started making this list I've decided to include only those announcement threads that were active at the moment of discovery, and not those that were once active. Since I see that threads you mentioned are not active for quite some time (and Amepay is already on the list)  I won't add them. Thing is, there are so many threads that once hired bumping service that if I started adding them retroactively list would be at least 4x longer than it is now.


And I want to ask you to add "Proof" to the main line, (so that anyone can refer to proofs).
Thanks for reminder, that's something I though about adding and will do eventually.



One more ANN thread added to the list, making it 94th.

 [ANN][IEO]Axentro - An original, proof of work Blockchain for decentralised Apps (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5310598.0)

As always, I checked Axentro to see if I can find some dirt, but seems to me like it checks out, at least at those basic things like team&whitepaper. Nevertheless, for some reason they decided to hire shillers, and same accounts that are shilling their ANN is doing the same thing for another name on the list, Baex.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: bakasabo on January 27, 2021, 07:47:11 AM
Hello Rikafip !

I've found another representative for your list. Everyone please welcome [ANN] 🌳🌳🌳Moss.earth - The world's largest environmental platform (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5300666.0).

We see usual picture there - chat among newbie accounts. All of them have close registration date. If you check their posting history, all they do is to post in MOSS.earth topic and use its weblink or name in posts in other topics.

zayika570 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2877080)
nikita2020 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2877064)
Bertyda (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2877221)
alan228 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2878711)

Some of the topic posters were spotter posting on Reapchain (Nr.60 in your list), so there is no doubt bumping service is used by Moss.earth.



Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on January 27, 2021, 09:49:21 AM
Hello Rikafip !

I've found another representative for your list. Everyone please welcome [ANN] 🌳🌳🌳Moss.earth - The world's largest environmental platform (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5300666.0).
Yep, no doubt what's going on here, they indeed hired bumping service. They are doing it on the light schedule though, probably bought one of the smallest "packages". Anyway, Moss.earth has been added on the list.


Some of the topic posters were spotter posting on Reapchain (Nr.60 in your list), so there is no doubt bumping service is used by Moss.earth.
Not just Reapchain, they have been active in at least two more on the list; BambooDefi and AAX. That's of course not a coincidence.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: bakasabo on February 02, 2021, 12:24:32 PM
Hey Rikofip,

Another bumping service client. Everyone welcome CCM Cryptocurrency Market 'Defi' (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5313071.0;topicseen). To bad CCM selected lazy bumbers. All of the bumbing accounts are registered almost on same day, January 23-24, 2018. As usually, all newbies post in same topics. Most of the account name looks random, but Negovora_Alexandr, that post in same topics, looks close to a real person. With enough effort, I think it is possible to find the patient zero aka admin of that service.

Straight out of oven - [ANN] Beatbind - HELPS CREATE THE MOST MEMORABLE MUSIC EVENTS ON EARTH! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5313929.0;topicseen). Topic created recently, self moderated and newbies, that post in same topic already started to fill it with "valuable" content.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: LordShanken on February 03, 2021, 01:10:53 AM
Hi,

It looks like business is booming as I found another ANN thread that probably also started using bumping service:
- [ANN] WorldToken — a unique platform that combines the best tokenomics of curren - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5312779.0

I wonder how they persuade customers to check it and even pay for it, because I don't think so many project owners know that they are ordering "cheating service".




Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: LordShanken on February 07, 2021, 07:11:30 PM
Hi,

One more thread with bumping service. This time they post longer text than one line as usually, but 90% thats are Brand New accounts created only to post in that thread:

CENTUS is a new stablecoin on the Stellar blockchain - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5314951.0


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on February 07, 2021, 09:29:11 PM
CCM Cryptocurrency Market 'Defi' (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5313071.0;topicseen)
[ANN] Beatbind - HELPS CREATE THE MOST MEMORABLE MUSIC EVENTS ON EARTH! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5313929.0;topicseen)
Obvious case of thread shilling, both threads have been added to the list. Thanks for reporting!



[ANN] WorldToken — a unique platform that combines the best tokenomics of curren[/b] - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5312779.0
I wonder how they persuade customers to check it and even pay for it, because I don't think so many project owners know that they are ordering "cheating service".
They probably told them that everyone is doing that and that there is nothing wrong with it, and majority of those that hire them have no clue about bitcointalk and that same service is ready to promote an obvious scam. By the way, I've added  both of those threads that you mentioned, but also don't forget to report them spam when you see it.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: keyscore44 on February 11, 2021, 09:25:46 AM
One more thread that can be added to the list of projects with poor marketing:

Beatbind - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5313929.0

However this time, lazy spammers even plagiarized two posts (just two I found). I reported plagiarism in the Reputation section:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5316374.0


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on February 15, 2021, 09:16:18 PM
One more thread that can be added to the list of projects with poor marketing:

Beatbind - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5313929.0
Yep, they definitely hired one of those "marketing agencies" to spam their thread nad fake the interest. Same accounts that are active in Beatbind are also working on another project on this list, Axentro so I am adding them to the list.

From what I could see, Beatbind is one of those projects that have no real use for crypto, but they probably hope that by introducing blockchain they will get some interest. At least team looks real and whitepaper not plagiarized, so there's that. IN other words, just another shitcoin that should be avoided.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: lovesmayfamilis on March 03, 2021, 02:12:34 PM
Several accounts are actively involved in these threads. It's not hard to guess that this is part of a small bumping farm.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5312387.msg56278688#msg56278688
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5314120.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5286191.140
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5277218.0

NEWICO INVESTOR (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2384011)September 08, 2018, 12:11:52 PM
Altcoin Reviewer (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2384024)September 08, 2018, 12:17:37 PM
khudro (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2445125)October 21, 2018, 09:20:44 PM
kinchit (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2445122)October 21, 2018, 09:17:42 PM


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on March 04, 2021, 02:28:21 PM
Several accounts are actively involved in these threads. It's not hard to guess that this is part of a small bumping farm.
Yep, all those accounts mentioned are indeed part of the bumping farm working on all those four threads that  you mentioned (Aladdin Exchange, SOCIETATIS, CRP and Chaingateway) so they have been added on the list. I can't believe that this thing is still going on, how clueless those that are hiring these guys must be if they keep hiring them? As someone said earlier, scammers scamming other scammers.


NEWICO INVESTOR (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2384011)September 08, 2018, 12:11:52 PM
Altcoin Reviewer (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2384024)September 08, 2018, 12:17:37 PM
khudro (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2445125)October 21, 2018, 09:20:44 PM
kinchit (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2445122)October 21, 2018, 09:17:42 PM

Regarding those four accounts, they have another thing in common, and that's the source of their merit, now banned account kpcian (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=879468). So, we have here four accounts that are working on the same threads and all of them got their only merit from a single account, that is banned now. A bit too much coindence for my taste, banned kpcian probably operates on the forum, now via his alts. Or he sold the merit to those sock puppet accounts.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: DaveF on March 04, 2021, 03:32:32 PM
As someone said earlier, scammers scamming other scammers.

Yeah, I said that.

I just saw this thread pop up and hour ago and spent a bunch of time looking at those threads.

Pretty horrible. Not to be an "English speaking elitist" but come on at least try a little bit. Makes you wonder, are they just paying the actual people that are doing the bumping that little and the people running the service are taking the money or is just that this quality is all that is out there.

-Dave

 


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on March 05, 2021, 01:58:33 PM
Yeah, I said that.
Ah yes, thank you :)



I just saw this thread pop up and hour ago and spent a bunch of time looking at those threads.

Pretty horrible. Not to be an "English speaking elitist" but come on at least try a little bit. Makes you wonder, are they just paying the actual people that are doing the bumping that little and the people running the service are taking the money or is just that this quality is all that is out there.
At first I thought that this service must be dirt cheap considering the quality (better to say lack of quality) of the job done, but then I checked on the fiverr where they massively promote this, and it ain't cheap at all. Just look at this add, where seller lies about bitcointalk having 60 million users, can't write a single proper sentence, yet he charges 21 posts €26.34 and despite all that projects hire him. Imagine how incompetent team has to be in order to hire someone like him?


If your announcement thread isn't on the top page. It has gone to the bottom pages.


There are 60 MILLION users Who can"t see your ann thread because of that. Did you understand?.

your page doesn't get any views. All your effort and money went in vain. All the views are getting your competitors. It shouldn't be like this.RIGHT?


Why do you need bitcointalk comments?


After publishing bitcointalk thread, it usually disappears from users view because of less engagement.


Therefore, I will keep up your thread to generate more views. I will make sure that your annthread will be on the topper page of bitcointalk


you can get an ABUNDANT amount of visitors and investors if you're on the topper pages.


I can help you to be on the TOPPER PAGE!!! ORGANICALLY by commenting on your thread. This will increase engagement and bump up your thread.

I have huge knowledge and extensive experience in crypto and its promotion system and I have 200+ bitcointalk accounts.

If you want to have the benefit of your ann thread..."CONTACT ME as soon as possible"


Best regards

Arman Sakib


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: icopress on March 05, 2021, 02:13:20 PM
[ ...... (https://www.fiverr.com/seospecialist01/bump-up-your-bitcointalk-ann-thread?ref_ctx_id=195a0a067beafc4da11b06d410ccaa44) ]
Lol, 60 million users ... I decided to look through the reviews left to him, but the screenshots are so vague that I could not identify his nickname and the threads in which he was publishing (except for FXBK (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5191594.0)). In case someone has good eyesight, [https://imgur.com/pjomUTc (https://imgur.com/pjomUTc), https://imgur.com/7jMQvy9]


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: bakasabo on March 18, 2021, 09:11:42 AM
There is no specific topic on bitcointalk forum, but there are bunch of accounts who are shilling and bumping https://www.koinal.io/ on the forum. They are mostly active in topics with content like "where to invest" "what to buy" "what to hold" and etc.

Some of these shillers/bumpers:
SDKmaster (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2881319)
Lunafox (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2878617)
Bertyda (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2877221)

And I'm sure there are more accounts promoting this koinal.io, who tries to look or sound like https://www.coinall.com/ or https://www.coineal.com/ exchanges.

Not to make this post off-topic, these guys are frequent posters in [ANN] QUASA OPEN LOGISTICS BLOCKCHAIN PLATFORM (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2351950.0) - topic bumped with newbies. Some of these bumping accounts were already spotted in Moss.earth (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5236143.msg56198127#msg56198127) topic


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Jawhead999 on March 19, 2021, 03:34:52 AM
ANN ✅ Paradice.in | 🍀 Provably Fair 🎲 | Rain☔| 30 sec Faucet | 1% House Edge 💰| (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5206291.0)


Paradice.in offering people to leave feedback in this forum to earn reward, obviously people will write good reviews about it. All of the bumping services mostly brand new accounts with 1 activity only. Right now we already saw many shillers with 1 liner post on Paradice.in, this will keep continued if the offer still exist.
KyleUnnis (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3240149)
Native702 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3240200)
Delshad58 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3240178)
Nomi776 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3240213)
RyZeIron (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3240231)
Ncbps (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3178905)
ASDRE12 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3240391)
eif77 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=982654)
georgeangelov93 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3240579)
Svba (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3240562)
Jm0915Win (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3240607)
rodgerdig (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3240615)

Not only on the ANN thread, some brand new account create new thread on Bitcoin discussion to promote this casino.
Drpaidinfull (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3240617) Thread https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5659/56599501.html
ftwgang (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3240571) Thread  https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5659/56599215.html
Dscshift (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3240576) Thread https://loyce.club/archive/posts/5659/56599195.html


Reported all the thread, waiting mods to take action.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on March 19, 2021, 09:09:29 AM
Not to make this post off-topic, these guys are frequent posters in [ANN] QUASA OPEN LOGISTICS BLOCKCHAIN PLATFORM (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2351950.0) - topic bumped with newbies. Some of these bumping accounts were already spotted in Moss.earth (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5236143.msg56198127#msg56198127) topic
Thread added to the list. It is kinda weird that they start bumping that one since it hasn't been active for two years prior that and OP is banned too but I guess project is still alive (well at least their website is).




ANN ✅ Paradice.in | 🍀 Provably Fair 🎲 | Rain☔| 30 sec Faucet | 1% House Edge 💰| (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5206291.0)
Yep, classic case of thread bumping, no doubt about that. Since they are also giving a reward to all those that are leaving comments in their announcement thread they are breaking forum rule and usual punishment for that is thread deletion. I reported it too so let's see what mods say about that.




Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: bakasabo on March 19, 2021, 09:17:48 AM
Yep, classic case of thread bumping, no doubt about that. Since they are also giving a reward to all those that are leaving comments in their announcement thread they are breaking forum rule and usual punishment for that is thread deletion. I reported it too so let's see what mods say about that.

It always make me smile to spot such promotional posts, as they are always positive and has "#" or "$" hashtags. Would a regular forum member use hashtags to write a post? This makes so easy to recognize which post was written with intention to share information or idea, and which one is fake.

This can even be a rule. See post with #<coin/token name> or $<coin/token name> in it - it is 100% fake and was made to get a reward.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Stalker22 on March 21, 2021, 12:19:45 AM
ANN ✅ Paradice.in | 🍀 Provably Fair 🎲 | Rain☔| 30 sec Faucet | 1% House Edge 💰| (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5206291.0)
Yep, classic case of thread bumping, no doubt about that. Since they are also giving a reward to all those that are leaving comments in their announcement thread they are breaking forum rule and usual punishment for that is thread deletion. I reported it too so let's see what mods say about that.


I see they already have their first scam accusation thread, so no surprise there.  :D
Paradice.in fraud accusation (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0)


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: bakasabo on May 04, 2021, 08:58:15 AM
Just found another two candidates for Rikafip list.

DModulator (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2618385)
Tribunal7 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2680647)
Supremestar (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3310192)
No_Limit (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2680644)

Found this gang posting only positive in same topics [ANN] CafeSwap a Yield Farming and Staking Platform on BSC Chain (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5334330.msg56906174#msg56906174) and [ANN] Work Quest - Global End to End Jobs Marketplace Powered on Smart Contract. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5331927.0) The style topics are created also look identical. I think the idea of both topics are attract users and sell them valueless tokens that are trade on "swap-like" place.

Both topics were created by Legit_Alt+ (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2704646), so it is better to put him on control and check his future topics for using bumping services.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on May 04, 2021, 10:29:38 AM
Just found another two candidates for Rikafip list.

Found this gang posting only positive in same topics [ANN] CafeSwap a Yield Farming and Staking Platform on BSC Chain (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5334330.msg56906174#msg56906174) and [ANN] Work Quest - Global End to End Jobs Marketplace Powered on Smart Contract. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5331927.0) The style topics are created also look identical. I think the idea of both topics are attract users and sell them valueless tokens that are trade on "swap-like" place.
Good find, both of those threads are shilled by sock puppet accounts, no question about it. While checking their post activity, I found at least two more announcement threads that are doing the same:

 [ANN][MORA] Meliora Finance Official Thread!! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5333203.0)
[ANN] [$FREN] Frenchie Official Thread!!! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5334740.msg56925209#msg56925209)
 [ANN] YFDAI |DEFI|Revolution in Decentralised Finance | Launchpad 🔥🔥 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5295276.0)


Both topics were created by Legit_Alt+ (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2704646), so it is better to put him on control and check his future topics for using bumping services.
Yep, you can pretty much expect that his future ANN threads will be shilled the same way, as that's the way they usually operate.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: bakasabo on May 31, 2021, 09:30:13 AM
New candidates to your list.

[ANN]Gaia - is a decentralized autonomous organization (DAO) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5340737.0;topicseen).

Bunch of newbies (isaconly (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1735616), gokhanka (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2705976), extawhodump (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1742630), lavane1578 (http://lavane1578), liobersubsdes (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1744179) and other) showing unfeigned interest to the project. What could possible be wrong? But the wrong is, same newbies are showing same interest to [ANN]My Lotto Coin-Designed to empower players and disrupt unjust classic games (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5335700.0), [ANN]BSCCROP is the 1 Business Services Ecosystem Designed to Launch Blockchain (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5337102.0) and [ANN]SafeMoon Inu - the first dog to ever explore the galaxy (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5338293.0). Topic design even looks identically, not to mention it is self-moderated. It is obvious that these projects are trash. Some of them dont even bother creating webpages.



Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on May 31, 2021, 06:32:12 PM
New candidates to your list.

Yep, all those altcoin projects  are undoubtedly using sock puppet accounts, and most likely from the same "marketing agency". I will add them a little bit later tonight, and also tag some of those accounts. Not sure if that would even make any difference as they will like;y either just continue, or start using new accounts. It's usually whack-a-mole game with them.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: FatFork on June 23, 2021, 10:04:50 AM
Rikafip, here are a few more candidates to add to your list:

[ANN] LOUVRE FINANCE - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5344225.0 (a self-moderated topic)
[BTCMT] Minto - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5343302.0 (a self-moderated topic)
[ANN] CosmicSwap - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5341623.0 (a self-moderated topic)
[ANN] Synthesis Bank - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5344544.0 (a self-moderated topic)
[ANN] ARTEX - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5341142.0
[ANN] Direwolf - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5340781.0
[ANN] RocketBit - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5341697.0 (a self-moderated topic)
[ANN] Low Orbit Crypto Cannon - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5336734.0
[CHIPS] PROFIT - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5331681.0 (a self-moderated topic)
[ANN] EDUFEX - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5336991.0
[ANN] VIDIACHANGE (LA VIDA) - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5335467.0 (a self-moderated topic)
[ANN] Labra - Deflationary DeFi - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5334805.0 (a self-moderated topic)
[ANN] $NEWINU - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5341681.0 (a self-moderated topic)
[ANN] Gaugecash - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5344829.0 (a self-moderated topic)
[ANN] Gaia - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5340737.0 (a self-moderated topic)
[ANN] Ugly Inu - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5341894.0
[ANN] ShinChan - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5341249.0
[ANN] CBK Token - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5340979.0 (a self-moderated topic)
[ANN] SafePepe - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5336781.0 (a self-moderated topic)
[ANN] Travel-Set - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5343760.0
Credefi - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5330290.0

A bunch of newbies trying to bump up topics with a fake interest in projects.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on June 23, 2021, 05:00:56 PM
Rikafip, here are a few more candidates to add to your list:

A bunch of newbies trying to bump up topics with a fake interest in projects.

Damn, nice catch. An obvious case of thread bumping and I would really like to see the way the still manage to sell this service to naive clients that think this kind of promotion actually works.  Gonna update the first post either tonight or tomorrow, as its going to take me some considering  that your identified 20_+ ANN threads. :D


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: JeromeTash on July 03, 2021, 06:58:59 PM
Thread - [ANN]ClikPad: World’s first Multi Chain Powered AI Launchpad for IDO,IFO & NFT (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5347044)
Archived - https://archive.ph/YaPqd

There are using copper member accounts with some striking similarities

1. GenesisOne Token Official (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2837880) Copper Member - Date Registered: August 05, 2020

2. Crypto Sajib (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2844140) Copper Member - Date Registered: August 20, 2020

3. pif official (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2834500) Copper Member - Date Registered: July 27, 2020

4. Thehashspeed officials (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2841670) Copper Member - Date Registered: August 13, 2020

5. plainbounty (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2844762) Copper Member - Date Registered: August 22, 2020

6. Crypo baba (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3123841) Copper Member - Date Registered: February 13, 2021

7. abirhasan03101996 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3339963) Copper Member - Date Registered: June 10, 2021

I don't know if tagging the accounts is a right thing to do.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on July 04, 2021, 06:50:41 AM
Finally had some time to update the list with 21 thread identified by @FatFork.



Thread - [ANN]ClikPad: World’s first Multi Chain Powered AI Launchpad for IDO,IFO & NFT (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5347044)
Archived - https://archive.ph/YaPqd

There are using copper member accounts with some striking similarities
Yep, another thread bumping case, but it's really weird to use Copper Member accounts for this. I wonder if @Crypto Sajib is an alt account of that well known scammer Kazi Sajib (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1146060). Since he sees bitcointalk as a milking cow, I doubt that he stopped operating here. Anyway, ClickPad added to the list as well.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: AhmadM on July 06, 2021, 10:28:32 PM
Another ANN thread that high likely use bumping service considering it a self-moderated topic and there a lot of newbies (most of them got banned already) trying to bump it

ANN thread: [ANN]The Standard Protocol is a decentralized finance (DeFi) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5346012.0)
Archive: https://web.archive.org/web/20210706221620/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5346012


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on July 09, 2021, 08:09:39 AM
Another ANN thread that high likely use bumping service considering it a self-moderated topic and there a lot of newbies (most of them got banned already) trying to bump it

ANN thread: [ANN]The Standard Protocol is a decentralized finance (DeFi) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5346012.0)
Archive: https://web.archive.org/web/20210706221620/https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5346012
Yep, no questions about it, another case of thread bumping. Looks like a classic M.O of a notorious Vitor Services, as they are using newbie accounts created years ago. Its good to see that mods started banning those accounts, but unfortunately it seems like this "marketing agency" has unlimited amount of old newbie accounts accounts. I wish I knew how they managed to get so many of them..

Anyway, Standard ANN thread  will be added to the list.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Jawhead999 on August 22, 2021, 05:23:17 AM
After scamming a lot money in the past until now (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5267172.msg57742384#msg57742384) and want to clean their bad reputation by run signature campaign, review contest, and now they hire brand new user to bump their ANN thread (or possible he's created bunch of those alts)

List of the bumping service :
1. markion198 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2748584) only post on 1xbit thread.
2. R0b3rt0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=154685) post gap between May 17, 2021 and August 20, 2021
3. josue88 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2201568) post gap between April 14, 2021 and August 20, 2021
for sure the best of all
4. lswook7 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2768518) post gap between February 25, 2020 and August 20, 2021
5. Cocawelss (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3370631) new created account
The best betting page !!
6. piquito de oro (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3370652) new created account
7. adolfomenci (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3370674) new created account
The best crypto bookie
8. Cryptoshg (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3370694) new created account
9. Sobierek1 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3370700) new created account
10. Matthewkeroulis123 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3370712) new created account
11. crypto8605 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3370769) new created account
12. Ziko84 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3370797) new created account
13. gogameister (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3370973) new created account
 

Not shills but he's the only one who opposite the 1xbit flag created by @COOLCRYPTOVATOR Darljohns (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3370903)


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on August 22, 2021, 09:33:41 AM
After scamming a lot money in the past until now (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5267172.msg57742384#msg57742384) and want to clean their bad reputation by run signature campaign, review contest, and now they hire brand new user to bump their ANN thread (or possible he's created bunch of those alts)
For some reason 1xbit hasn't been added to the list up until now, but that will be sorted. Their ANN has been shilled by quite some time now, but based on their M.O it looks more like they made those sock puppet account by themselves rather than hiring one of those "marketing agencies". After all, it costs exactly 0 to create new account, and once it gets tagged/banned, they just create new ones. Rinse and repeat.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on August 23, 2021, 05:34:44 PM
Several new announcement threads  been added to the list ( and spam reported) of those that are using bumping services. Based on their M.O, it seems like they hired notorious Vitor Services which is by now a household name here on bitcointalk. Whack-a-mole game goes on..

[ANN] OUDToken - Real Green Cryptocurrency | PRE-ICO TOMORROW 🚀 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5349579.0)
[Ann] MELD- the first DeFi, non-custodial, banking protocol (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5352612.0)
 [Ann] K-Base presents The Great Vault Dalí Challenge! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5354840.msg57708190#msg57708190)
[ANN] IMM Global - Insurance of Market Maker (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5350622.0)



Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: decodx on October 23, 2021, 10:36:22 PM
@Rikafip, there are a lot of newbies posting and bumping this thread, so it's likely that it has been using the bumping service:

ANN thread: [Ann]Game X Change-the future of game asset exchange! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5364682.0)


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on October 24, 2021, 10:08:40 AM
@Rikafip, there are a lot of newbies posting and bumping this thread, so it's likely that it has been using the bumping service:

ANN thread: [Ann]Game X Change-the future of game asset exchange! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5364682.0)

Yeah, obvious case of thread bumping as some of the accounts used are doing the same thing in four other announcement threads:

[Ann]ZERONAUTS- a platform for the assessment of the stability of cryptocurrenc (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5363562.msg58078888#msg58078888)
[ANN] Nafty - The big token for the adult industry! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5354661.msg57701143#msg57701143)
[Ann]KMT is the largest Complete Decentralized Token! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5358918.0)
 [Ann] The First Quantum Based BlockChain - Quattro Tech! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5363084.msg58054237#msg58054237)


Thread bumping scene is alive and kicking but I kinda gave up on reporting those as forum staff is not willing to do anything about it even if whole thread is filled with junk and useless one-liners. Altcoin section is a total mess anyway, and no spam reporting can make it any better so I focused my efforts on other parts of forum like Bitcoin Discussion, which is also kind of mess and filled with signature spam.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: examplens on October 24, 2021, 10:50:20 AM
@Rikafip, there are a lot of newbies posting and bumping this thread, so it's likely that it has been using the bumping service:

ANN thread: [Ann]Game X Change-the future of game asset exchange! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5364682.0)

Yeah, obvious case of thread bumping as some of the accounts used are doing the same thing in four other announcement threads:

[Ann]ZERONAUTS- a platform for the assessment of the stability of cryptocurrenc (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5363562.msg58078888#msg58078888)
[ANN] Nafty - The big token for the adult industry! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5354661.msg57701143#msg57701143)
[Ann]KMT is the largest Complete Decentralized Token! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5358918.0)
 [Ann] The First Quantum Based BlockChain - Quattro Tech! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5363084.msg58054237#msg58054237)


Thread bumping scene is alive and kicking but I kinda gave up on reporting those as forum staff is not willing to do anything about it even if whole thread is filled with junk and useless one-liners. Altcoin section is a total mess anyway, and no spam reporting can make it any better so I focused my efforts on other parts of forum like Bitcoin Discussion, which is also kind of mess and filled with signature spam.

Hm. In thread [Ann]ZERONAUTS- a platform for the assessment of the stability of cryptocurrenc (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5363562.msg58078888#msg58078888) except OP's post, all other posters are banned
Cryptosunaj (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2731479)
Lmaria16 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2765757)
otemwan (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2773545)
rumindrisa (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1737034)
saricuden (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1679978)
Regillio (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2711482)
ricardowilson70 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2781058)

as far as I can see the same accounts were active in the other threads you specified. I assume the report yielded results or are recognized as alt accounts by a previously banned user.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on October 24, 2021, 10:57:06 AM
...as far as I can see the same accounts were active in the other threads you specified. I assume the report yielded results or are recognized as alt accounts by a previously banned user.
Yep, mods are banning those sock puppet shilling accounts regularly but problem is that "marketing agencies" (most likely Vitor Services) are using newbie accounts and we all know that they can make as many as possible of those, which they are doing. What still surprises me is that they keep using older newbie accounts, that they awake when needed  instead of brand new ones.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: LoyceV on October 24, 2021, 11:28:29 AM
What still surprises me is that they keep using older newbie accounts, that they awake when needed  instead of brand new ones.
If I have to guess: that's because older Newbie accounts are less obvious to detect as bump spammers, and it's easier to activate accounts "from stock" than it is to create new accounts (with captcha and possible units of evil).
So in quiet times they have prepared a bunch of accounts without units of evil, and whenever a "buyer" needs them they just open a can of worms Newbie accounts.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: decodx on October 25, 2021, 12:12:03 AM
What still surprises me is that they keep using older newbie accounts, that they awake when needed  instead of brand new ones.
If I have to guess: that's because older Newbie accounts are less obvious to detect as bump spammers, and it's easier to activate accounts "from stock" than it is to create new accounts (with captcha and possible units of evil).
So in quiet times they have prepared a bunch of accounts without units of evil, and whenever a "buyer" needs them they just open a can of worms Newbie accounts.

This means they will run out of worms in the can sooner or later.

edit: Yes, I understand what you mean, LoyceV. A bunch of new accounts are created every day, but at some point they must run out of the old accounts they prepared without units of evil.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: LoyceV on October 25, 2021, 09:18:58 AM
This means they will run out of worms in the can sooner or later.
Unlikely. See how many usernames (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5202231.0) were created in the last 2 hours:
Quote
3397717. Malikhassan456 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3397717)
3397718. RL-bitforum (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3397718)
3397719. A2N Academy (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3397719)
3397720. bryancranston700 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3397720)
3397721. crypto150 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3397721)
3397722. heartzbrid5 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3397722)
3397723. barabulas (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3397723)
3397724. Amaobichukwu (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3397724)
3397725. TranVie (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3397725)
3397726. nongfu123 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3397726)
3397727. Hungryandsad (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3397727)
3397728. nevergiveupguy (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3397728)
3397729. mathka (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3397729)
3397730. noyoman (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3397730)
3397731. Romi mk (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3397731)
3397732. Mike gt (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3397732)
3397733. Proph dr (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3397733)
3397734. freepark (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3397734)
3397735. BuiTuKien (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3397735)
3397736. wlk123 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3397736)
3397737. besteventplannerinkolkata (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3397737)
3397738. Leo Kristy 01 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3397738)
3397739. Bliss123@ (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3397739)
3397740. Nikolaus abc (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3397740)
3397741. davidjamesdj789 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3397741)
3397742. Dasikudasi (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3397742)
3397743. Ajay 12 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3397743)
3397744. bihadinh (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3397744)
3397745. Diablotic (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3397745)
3397746. Engineer_12 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3397746)
3397747. ashamoni12 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3397747)
3397748. pemburureceh2525 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3397748)
3397749. tech13 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3397749)
3397750. Kycproductss (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3397750)
3397751. whiser (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3397751)
3397752. xxlolo9xx (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3397752)
3397753. fshfkjahrew (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3397753)
3397754. Sanowar404 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3397754)
3397755. gifee (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3397755)
3397756. receh2547 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3397756)
3397757. Sanowar405 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3397757)
I'm pretty sure some of them will be used for bump spam later on. Bump spammers could even have outsourced account creation and buy them in bulk.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on October 25, 2021, 10:01:13 AM
This means they will run out of worms in the can sooner or later.
They won't, as it costs exactly 0 to make new account. They have so many accounts at their disposal  that even if you just tag them, they will ditch those and start using new ones. They won't be stopped by that evil fee thing as well, as they are professional spammers that are doing this for years and will easily find new clean IP to make more. Rinse and repeat as long there's interest in what they offer.


I'm pretty sure some of them will be used for bump spam later on. Bump spammers could even have outsourced account creation and buy them in bulk.
That could be the case as well, as I saw Vitor Services using newbie accounts created back in 2012/2013 and awoken in 2020/2021, which made me think that they are buying those accounts from someone.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Csmiami on October 25, 2021, 11:53:49 AM
I just found this thread, I've always used the Spambusters one the be reporting this sort of things, but since it has lost a lot of tracking from what it used to be, I rather ask here before keeping on bumping it.

Is this intended for only ANNs using paid bumps, or any altcoin project shilling their name over the forum is counted as such?

Should the case be the second, I've come across 2 projects using the same sentence structures with many different accounts promoting (so far) 2 projects:

Bondex (https://ninjastic.space/search?content=Bondex)
YouClout (https://ninjastic.space/search?content=YouClout)

I'd normally simply post this Spambusters, but I rather post it somewhere it's going to be seen to try have more eyes on the lookout

Edit: going for the third

Nftyplay (https://ninjastic.space/search?content=Nftyplay)


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on October 25, 2021, 05:08:25 PM
Is this intended for only ANNs using paid bumps, or any altcoin project shilling their name over the forum is counted as such?
Yeah, I  focused on ANN threads that hired bumping service and are doing that inside their own thread.


Should the case be the second, I've come across 2 projects using the same sentence structures with many different accounts promoting (so far) 2 projects:

Bondex (https://ninjastic.space/search?content=Bondex)
YouClout (https://ninjastic.space/search?content=YouClout)

I'd normally simply post this Spambusters, but I rather post it somewhere it's going to be seen to try have more eyes on the lookout

Edit: going for the third

Nftyplay (https://ninjastic.space/search?content=Nftyplay)
Those project are obviously using shillers as well, but  imho this type of "guerrilla marketing" looks much better than standard mindless shilling inside the ANN thread, and might be even effective if done properly, as I've seen similar things in various Telegram groups.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Csmiami on October 28, 2021, 07:28:10 AM
Would you guys say this  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5356405.0)is using a bumping service? Most of the replies are one liner basic/generic questions. Most accounts have close to 0 activity too


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on October 28, 2021, 08:14:50 AM
Would you guys say this  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5356405.0)is using a bumping service? Most of the replies are one liner basic/generic questions. Most accounts have close to 0 activity too
Yep, another one that hired bumping. Same accounts that are active in that thread are doing the same in bunch of others as well. These are just a few examples:
[Ann] Passive income with MOONFLIGHT!  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5357453.msg57832934#msg57832934)
[Ann] The first blockchain marketplace for physical goods! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5356398.msg57828020#msg57828020)
Ann]A decentralized crowdfunding portal for startups, entrepreneurs, businesses (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5357275.msg57827957#msg57827957)



Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: decodx on October 28, 2021, 08:56:57 PM
Would you guys say this  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5356405.0)is using a bumping service? Most of the replies are one liner basic/generic questions. Most accounts have close to 0 activity too
Yep, another one that hired bumping. Same accounts that are active in that thread are doing the same in bunch of others as well. These are just a few examples:
[Ann] Passive income with MOONFLIGHT!  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5357453.msg57832934#msg57832934)
[Ann] The first blockchain marketplace for physical goods! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5356398.msg57828020#msg57828020)
Ann]A decentralized crowdfunding portal for startups, entrepreneurs, businesses (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5357275.msg57827957#msg57827957)


Hey Rikafip, I've found a few more threads to add to your list that use bumping services:

[Ann] Studyum is a next-generation learning platform! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5356279.0)
Buyzooka - checkout at lightning speed (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5339876.0)

All newbie accounts that have been dormant since they were created, mostly around January 23, 2018.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Bitcoin_Arena on October 29, 2021, 06:50:53 AM
These are just a couple of accounts, but they were registered at the same period, and they just woke up to bump and ANN. I think they are just getting started

ANN - IXFI (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5366808.0)

Bumping accounts
1. Warison185 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1899706)
Registered on 3/2/2018 and then woke up on 10/26/2021 to bump the thread

2. Medicament (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1896484)
Registered on 3/1/2018 and then woke up on 10/27/2021 to bump the same thread


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on October 29, 2021, 07:08:16 AM

Hey Rikafip, I've found a few more threads to add to your list that use bumping services:

Since I have a rule that I am not adding threads retroactively (and I see that those two threads are not active anymore), I won't add them to the list. Reason is simple; there are so many threads that were being bumped in the past and if I add each and every I ever come across, list would probably be five times bigger than it is now.



These are just a couple of accounts, but they were registered at the same period, and they just woke up to bump and ANN. I think they are just getting started

ANN - IXFI (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5366808.0)

Bumping accounts
1. Warison185 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1899706)
Registered on 3/2/2018 and then woke up on 10/26/2021 to bump the thread

2. Medicament (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1896484)
Registered on 3/1/2018 and then woke up on 10/27/2021 to bump the same thread
Yep, that's how it starts and we can expect more shitposts soon.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: lovesmayfamilis on November 21, 2021, 05:26:53 AM
Another bumping service. Yesterday I reported on many of the posts this company makes until I realized it is a farm.
To avoid being discovered, they also write their posts not only in the announcement threads but also on regular topics. But almost all of their messages are one-line shilling.

What struck me was that every account, except for one, had one merit. Somehow, magically, they managed to get these merits from Ratimov. :o
Considering that yesterday about 100 of the messages were deleted by the moderators, I wonder why they could be given merits.  ???

[ANN] 🐶🐶🐶 DeFido 🐶🐶🐶 Meme Coin (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5367092.0)
[ANN] 💿💿💿 Inery Blockchain 💿💿💿 Data Storage (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5363181.0)    
[ANN] Verlux - First Decentralized Cross-Chain NFT Marketplace (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5370306.msg58402432#msg58402432)    
[ANN] 📈📈📈 Agile Finance 📈📈📈 Lending & Decentralized Swap Finance (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5367861.msg58282263#msg58282263)    
[ANN] ⚡⚡⚡ AutoBitco ⚡⚡⚡ The safest P2P trading platform (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5366007.0)    
[ANN] ⚡⚡⚡ CSPro Chain ⚡⚡⚡ Feel empowered! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5365322.0)
[ANN] RavenDex - First lending and decentralized exchange powered by cardano. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5363000.0)
[ANN] 🌍🌍🌍 Pacific DeFi 🌍🌍🌍 An ecosystem which will unify DeFi landscape (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5364650.msg58132410#msg58132410)
[ANN] 💿💿💿 EDAIN 💿💿💿 AI-powered knowledge creation ecosystem (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5369217.msg58487595#msg58487595)


Lunafox (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2878617)       November 13, 2020, 03:22:16 PM
alan228 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2878711)       November 13, 2020, 05:32:50 PM
JackieAinsley (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2878620)      November 13, 2020, 03:25:28 PM
zayika570 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2877080)       November 10, 2020, 04:46:41 PM
nikita2020 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2877064)       November 10, 2020, 04:00:37 PM
cryptoserega (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2877200)       November 10, 2020, 11:26:36 PM
Bertyda (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2877221)       November 11, 2020, 12:36:51 AM
i8v8i (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2881322)      November 16, 2020, 01:22:00 PM
SDKmaster (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2881319)         November 16, 2020, 01:17:17 PM
Garsipop (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2882133)       November 17, 2020, 05:12:16 PM   
TmHsHel (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2882134)       November 17, 2020, 05:14:46 PM               
altixz (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3330403)       May 22, 2021, 01:13:31 PM
jorjeIII (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3111248)       February 03, 2021, 09:51:53 PM
   
https://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?to=jorjeIII&from=Ratimov 7/23/2021 8:25:21 AM
https://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?to=Lunafox&from=Ratimov 7/23/2021 8:25:57 AM      
https://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?to=JackieAinsley&from=Ratimov 7/23/2021 8:20:56 AM      
https://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?to=Garsipop&from=Ratimov 7/23/2021 8:29:47 AM
https://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?to=altixz&from=Ratimov 7/23/2021 8:29:04 AM
https://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?to=TmHsHel&from=Ratimov 7/23/2021 8:27:19 AM
https://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?to=i8v8i&from=Ratimov    7/25/2021 9:06:55 AM      
https://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?to=alan228&from=Ratimov 7/25/2021 8:55:11 AM
https://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?to=nikita2020&from=Ratimov 7/27/2021 11:23:45 AM
https://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?to=Bertyda&from=Ratimov 8/4/2021 6:56:48 PM
https://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?to=cryptoserega&from=Ratimov 8/22/2021 8:42:10 AM


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on November 21, 2021, 10:18:47 AM
Another bumping service. Yesterday I reported on many of the posts this company makes until I realized it is a farm.
To avoid being discovered, they also write their posts not only in the announcement threads but also on regular topics. But almost all of their messages are one-line shilling.
Nice find. And yeah, those are a little bit better than an average bumping service as they took some effort in appearing like a regular members since they wrote in general threads outside altcoin section, which is something that sock puppet accounts usually don't bother with.


What struck me was that every account, except for one, had one merit. Somehow, magically, they managed to get these merits from Ratimov. :o
Hm yeah, that is weird coincidence.  At first I though that maybe they got merit from one of his merit giveaway threads, but I don't see that. For example, Lunafox (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2878617) got merit from Ratimov on July 27th for the post that was written on  March 27th), and I don't see him applying to any merit giveaway thread around that time, or I simply can't find it.



   
https://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?to=Lunafox&from=Ratimov 7/23/2021 8:25:57 AM      
https://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?to=JackieAinsley&from=Ratimov 7/23/2021 8:20:56 AM      
https://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?to=Garsipop&from=Ratimov 7/23/2021 8:29:47 AM
https://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?to=altixz&from=Ratimov 7/23/2021 8:29:04 AM
https://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?to=TmHsHel&from=Ratimov 7/23/2021 8:27:19 AM
This is even weirder; those 5 got merit from Ratimov in under 9 minutes, for posts written several months before, across 5 different threads. How the hell did he find their posts, since they were so scattered, assuming they didn't apply in merit giveaway thread?


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Csmiami on November 21, 2021, 10:27:05 AM
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This is even weirder; those 5 got merit from Ratimov in under 9 minutes, for posts written several months before, across 5 different threads. How the hell did he find their posts, since they were so scattered, assuming they didn't apply in merit giveaway thread?
All of the post (not only those 5) follow however the same pattern: a small text explanation+social media link. But even if it's a pattern, there must be thousands of posts like that in the forum, so what the hell


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: lovesmayfamilis on November 21, 2021, 10:53:39 AM
This is even weirder; those 5 got merit from Ratimov in under 9 minutes, for posts written several months before, across 5 different threads. How the hell did he find their posts, since they were so scattered, assuming they didn't apply in merit giveaway thread?

Having seen this post in the past, I thought that the competition is not only in terms of rank but also in the generosity of distribution from sources of merit.
Therefore, it is not surprising to see that the first merit can be easily given to a beginner, thereby being the first in the generosity competition.
But of course, it's just motivation, I understand.  :)

Aiming for the first position.
We have seen the algorithm is quite weird in his output, so never say never.

Yes, the algorithm presents surprises, in all respects I should have taken 1st position the month before last, but the formula had other plans in this regard. Well, first position is a good target, just get in line. First, I will take the first position, and then you.  :P :P :P


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on November 21, 2021, 10:55:31 AM
All of the post (not only those 5) follow however the same pattern: a small text explanation+social media link. But even if it's a pattern, there must be thousands of posts like that in the forum, so what the hell
Yep, those are basically shitposts that doesn't look any better than thousands of others. Just take for example this post by JackieAinsley for which got his merit from Ratimov. In this post he promotes some shitcoin failed project that is allegedly giving Ferrari to one lucky IDO participant.


Now, during the fall of the cryptocurrency market, it is very important to attract attention to yourself so that people notice the project. Here is an example of how to attract attention to yourself - https://dragonbite.medium.com/dragonbite-announces-uniswap-ido-with-a-ferrari-8beebe4f0f13

What's interesting about this DragonBite project that is being promoted in that post is that it has ANN here on bitcointalk, and you can see several other members of that bumping group writing there.
⚡️⚡️⚡️DragonBite ⚡️⚡️⚡️ Platform for loyalty market (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5333315.0)


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: bakasabo on November 25, 2021, 07:45:16 AM
I hope I would be wrong and we observe an increase of interest to forum from new people, but, the appearance of silly topics by newbies make me think they would become shillers in a future.

Today I've noticed, that a bunch of newbies with registration date morning of November 04 created lots of topics in Altcoin Discussion. They have common nicknames - "name + number". That cant be a coincidence.
Check this out:

https://i.imgur.com/7yM1o8L.png

Helen_1 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3402238)
Marie701 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3402237)
Monica301 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3402236)
Julia205 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3402234)
Eugene8@ (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3402280)
Leslie012 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3402277)
Barbra! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3402276)
Jason06 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3402272)
Keith010 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3402269)
James68 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3402267)
Charles310 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3402268)
Thomas2205 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3402218)
Donald250 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3402221)

We should follow them, as one day they will start to shill some crap.

P.S. I expect more newbie from this shilling farm to create topics today, so the list would be greater.
P.P.S. They wont become bounty hunting farm, because they could have started posting reports directly from creation date.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: FatFork on December 17, 2021, 08:24:52 AM
A couple of newbies are active in bumping this self-moderated thread: [Ann]BlocVault is creating a suite of mobile-based apps for crypto investing! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5375628.0) In addition, as I have already reported here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1926895.msg58739998#msg58739998), the ANN post contains plagiarized content.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: keyscore44 on December 17, 2021, 09:43:24 AM
It looks like bumping services are more gentle now. They used to spam 5 or more posts a day, now there is less. Or this version of the service has been ordered.

Self moderated thread and almost the entire thread are fresh accounts with short and typical comments.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5375367.0



Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: FatFork on December 17, 2021, 08:02:36 PM
Rickafip, I found a few more candidates to add to your list:

  • [ANN] Micro Santa (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5375167.0) by Microsantacrypto (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3417699)
  • [ANN] Shibmas Inu (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5375363.0) by shibaclaus (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3418197)
  • [ANN] QUPPY (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5000438.0) by QuppyTeam (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1988657)
  • [Ann] NEXT Smart Chain (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5374662.0) by nextsmartchain (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3417200)
  • [ANN] Virvia (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5355014.0) by vdvtoken (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3369250)
  • Decentralized Future (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5375513.0) by WallStreetNinja (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3418306)
  • [Ann] BlueEarthProtocol (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5373141.0) by blueearthpro (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3413042)
  • [Ann] KAIZILLA (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5375776.0) by KAIZILLA (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3419380)
  • Rebellion Protocol (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5373869.0) by Rebellion_Protocol (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3413857)
  • [Ann] Bit Lounge (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5374836.0) by bitlounge (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3417358)
  • [ANN] Avalon (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5377100.0) by  Avalon-legends (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3420738)
  • [ANN] Crypto Jackpot (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5375339.0) by cryptojackpot (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3418140)


The same newbie accounts are bumping all of these threads as the one I mentioned earlier today.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on December 18, 2021, 01:48:47 PM
It looks like bumping services are more gentle now. They used to spam 5 or more posts a day, now there is less. Or this version of the service has been ordered.

Self moderated thread and almost the entire thread are fresh accounts with short and typical comments.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5375367.0
It's probably the latter, their activity depends on the package you buy. At least that's how Vitor Services are doing it, which are by far the biggest thread bumping providers. This is how their packages look like.





Rickafip, I found a few more candidates to add to your list:
The same newbie accounts are bumping all of these threads as the one I mentioned earlier today.

Nice work, I will add those threads shortly. By the looks of it, it's yet again before mentioned Vitor Services. Those guys are simply unstoppable, kudos on selling their useless thread bumping. Those buying their services have to be completely clueless on how things work around here as that's the only explanation how they manage to keep on going with this.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: GazetaBitcoin on December 18, 2021, 09:47:49 PM
After a long day of "report spree" I reported all the spam from the topics mentioned above by FatFork and keyscore44 -- 912 reported posts in total. Whoa :) Like in old good days. Sadly, I did not have so much time for making reports lately, but I believe I'll have a more free period in next days thus I'll return to my "old habits" :)

that's how Vitor Services are doing it, which are big far the biggest thread bumping providers

I see that Vitor Services is still up and running. I'll do again all I can to limit their impact.

Nice work, I will add those threads shortly.

Rikafip, all the topics mentioned in OP are still active? I'm asking to know on which one to jump next :)


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: decodx on December 18, 2021, 11:33:09 PM
After a long day of "report spree" I reported all the spam from the topics mentioned above by FatFork and keyscore44 -- 912 reported posts in total. Whoa :) Like in old good days. Sadly, I did not have so much time for making reports lately, but I believe I'll have a more free period in next days thus I'll return to my "old habits" :)

One quick off-topic question: when you report such posts to moderators, what do you put under the comment? Is it ok to simply write "shitpostng", or should you give a little more explanation?


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: GazetaBitcoin on December 19, 2021, 07:37:09 AM
One quick off-topic question: when you report such posts to moderators, what do you put under the comment? Is it ok to simply write "shitpostng", or should you give a little more explanation?

All my reports are justified by an appropriate comment, reflecting the problem. Basically, based on Unofficial list of (official) Bitcointalk.org rules, guidelines, FAQ (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0), I am writing comments like "Breaking rule 2. No off-topic posts." / "Breaking rule 32. Posting multiple posts in a row" and so on. Even for these spam there is a rule - more important, the very first rule of the forum - "1. No zero or low value, pointless or uninteresting posts or threads". In this case, sometimes I comment the reports with "Breaking rule 1. No zero or low value, pointless or uninteresting posts or threads" or I simply write "Zero-value post".



Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Csmiami on December 19, 2021, 11:48:13 AM
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You could put something similar to "zero value post, possible bumping service", and that way, you won't have to report every individual post because the whole thread will most likely get trashed. Little tip to save some time ;)


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on December 19, 2021, 06:23:16 PM
After a long day of "report spree" I reported all the spam from the topics mentioned above by FatFork and keyscore44 -- 912 reported posts in total. Whoa :) Like in old good days. Sadly, I did not have so much time for making reports lately, but I believe I'll have a more free period in next days thus I'll return to my "old habits" :)
Damn, crazy report spree, good job. Unfortunately it's the same situation with me, not enough time to be as active on the reporting scene as I used to be, especially when I see forum staff unwilling to nuke whole threads that consist of nothing but paid spam.


I see that Vitor Services is still up and running. I'll do again all I can to limit their impact.
Yep, those guys are like cockroaches.



You could put something similar to "zero value post, possible bumping service", and that way, you won't have to report every individual post because the whole thread will most likely get trashed. Little tip to save some time ;)
Hm, I was never able to get get the whole thread thrashed, unless I reported each and every spam post. And even then, only those paid bump posts were deleted, and not the original post.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: GazetaBitcoin on December 19, 2021, 07:05:57 PM
Damn, crazy report spree, good job

Hihi, thanks!

Unfortunately it's the same situation with me, not enough time to be as active on the reporting scene as I used to be, especially when I see forum staff unwilling to nuke whole threads that consist of nothing but paid spam.

Yes, this is sad... this is why we have to do it post by post...

Rikafip, I think you missed a question I asked above:

Rikafip, all the topics mentioned in OP are still active? I'm asking to know on which one to jump next :)

I want to start working on other threads as well and I need your answer to prioritize them somehow...



You could put something similar to "zero value post, possible bumping service", and that way, you won't have to report every individual post because the whole thread will most likely get trashed. Little tip to save some time ;)

If only this would work... As you see in Rikafip's reply as well, this easy method (as any easy methods, generally speaking :)) just won't work O0


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on December 19, 2021, 07:13:52 PM
Rikafip, I think you missed a question I asked above:

Rikafip, all the topics mentioned in OP are still active? I'm asking to know on which one to jump next :)

I want to start working on other threads as well and I need your answer to prioritize them somehow...
Ah yes, sorry. All those thread identified by @FatFork were started not longer than 2 weeks ago, so they are probably still live, but from what I can see, all spam posts there have been removed already so I guess someone already did the job.


If only this would work... As you see in Rikafip's reply as well, this easy method (as any easy methods, generally speaking :)) just won't work O0
Yep, I even created topic in meta about that issue but never got an answer from mods/admins. Someone might say that it could be abused by hiring spammers to competition thread in order to get nuked, but I think even that could be sorted somehow.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Csmiami on December 20, 2021, 06:13:23 PM
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Hm, I was never able to get get the whole thread thrashed, unless I reported each and every spam post. And even then, only those paid bump posts were deleted, and not the original post.
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If only this would work... As you see in Rikafip's reply as well, this easy method (as any easy methods, generally speaking :)) just won't work O0

Hmmm, that's odd... I've always been under the impression that the threads I reported this way (reporting directly from patrol) were indeed trashed; will have to give it some more testing once I have time to check the patrol page frequently again....


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on December 20, 2021, 07:35:23 PM
Hmmm, that's odd... I've always been under the impression that the threads I reported this way (reporting directly from patrol) were indeed trashed; will have to give it some more testing once I have time to check the patrol page frequently again....
You can easily test it out on one of the threads (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5236143.msg58747863#msg58747863) reported by @FatFork few days ago. Yesterday all posts were deleted, but they restarted again today, doing the same thing, and they even spread on new threads like [ANN] 🎮NFTCRAFT.GAME🎮 Play-to-Earn 🔸 with ~150% APY 🔥All NFT backed by ETH🔥  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5374787.msg58598005#msg58598005) and [Ann] A dog racing game based on RNG technology and built on BSC - DogyRace! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5375199.msg58768855#msg58768855).

As I said, with current rules (or to be more precise lack of), this is nothing but a whack-a-mole game in which we can't win. Sure, it can be a nice feeling seeing all that crap deleted, but more often than not I end up feeling like Sisyphus.




Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: GazetaBitcoin on December 20, 2021, 07:39:54 PM
After another day of hard work, I managed to clean the following threads:

Rikafip, here are a few more candidates to add to your list:

[ANN] LOUVRE FINANCE - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5344225.0 (a self-moderated topic)
[BTCMT] Minto - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5343302.0 (a self-moderated topic)
[ANN] CosmicSwap - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5341623.0 (a self-moderated topic)
[ANN] Synthesis Bank - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5344544.0 (a self-moderated topic)
[ANN] ARTEX - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5341142.0
[ANN] Direwolf - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5340781.0
[ANN] RocketBit - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5341697.0 (a self-moderated topic)
[ANN] Low Orbit Crypto Cannon - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5336734.0
[CHIPS] PROFIT - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5331681.0 (a self-moderated topic)
[ANN] EDUFEX - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5336991.0
[ANN] VIDIACHANGE (LA VIDA) - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5335467.0 (a self-moderated topic)
[ANN] Labra - Deflationary DeFi - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5334805.0 (a self-moderated topic)
[ANN] $NEWINU - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5341681.0 (a self-moderated topic)
[ANN] Gaugecash - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5344829.0 (a self-moderated topic)
[ANN] Gaia - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5340737.0 (a self-moderated topic)
[ANN] Ugly Inu - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5341894.0
[ANN] ShinChan - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5341249.0
[ANN] CBK Token - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5340979.0 (a self-moderated topic)
[ANN] SafePepe - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5336781.0 (a self-moderated topic)
[ANN] Travel-Set - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5343760.0
Credefi - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5330290.0

Thread - [ANN]ClikPad: World’s first Multi Chain Powered AI Launchpad for IDO,IFO & NFT (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5347044)

Another ANN thread that high likely use bumping service considering it a self-moderated topic and there a lot of newbies (most of them got banned already) trying to bump it

ANN thread: [ANN]The Standard Protocol is a decentralized finance (DeFi) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5346012.0)

Several new announcement threads  been added to the list ( and spam reported) of those that are using bumping services. Based on their M.O, it seems like they hired notorious Vitor Services which is by now a household name here on bitcointalk. Whack-a-mole game goes on..

[ANN] OUDToken - Real Green Cryptocurrency | PRE-ICO TOMORROW 🚀 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5349579.0)
[Ann] MELD- the first DeFi, non-custodial, banking protocol (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5352612.0)
 [Ann] K-Base presents The Great Vault Dalí Challenge! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5354840.msg57708190#msg57708190)
[ANN] IMM Global - Insurance of Market Maker (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5350622.0)

@Rikafip, there are a lot of newbies posting and bumping this thread, so it's likely that it has been using the bumping service:

ANN thread: [Ann]Game X Change-the future of game asset exchange! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5364682.0)

Yeah, obvious case of thread bumping as some of the accounts used are doing the same thing in four other announcement threads:

[Ann]ZERONAUTS- a platform for the assessment of the stability of cryptocurrenc (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5363562.msg58078888#msg58078888)
[ANN] Nafty - The big token for the adult industry! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5354661.msg57701143#msg57701143)
[Ann]KMT is the largest Complete Decentralized Token! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5358918.0)
 [Ann] The First Quantum Based BlockChain - Quattro Tech! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5363084.msg58054237#msg58054237)

Yep, another one that hired bumping. Same accounts that are active in that thread are doing the same in bunch of others as well. These are just a few examples:
[Ann] Passive income with MOONFLIGHT!  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5357453.msg57832934#msg57832934)
[Ann] The first blockchain marketplace for physical goods! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5356398.msg57828020#msg57828020)
Ann]A decentralized crowdfunding portal for startups, entrepreneurs, businesses (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5357275.msg57827957#msg57827957)

Hey Rikafip, I've found a few more threads to add to your list that use bumping services:

[Ann] Studyum is a next-generation learning platform! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5356279.0)
Buyzooka - checkout at lightning speed (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5339876.0)

All newbie accounts that have been dormant since they were created, mostly around January 23, 2018.

Another bumping service. [...]

[ANN] 🐶🐶🐶 DeFido 🐶🐶🐶 Meme Coin (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5367092.0)
[ANN] 💿💿💿 Inery Blockchain 💿💿💿 Data Storage (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5363181.0)    
[ANN] Verlux - First Decentralized Cross-Chain NFT Marketplace (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5370306.msg58402432#msg58402432)    
[ANN] 📈📈📈 Agile Finance 📈📈📈 Lending & Decentralized Swap Finance (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5367861.msg58282263#msg58282263)    
[ANN] ⚡⚡⚡ AutoBitco ⚡⚡⚡ The safest P2P trading platform (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5366007.0)    
[ANN] ⚡⚡⚡ CSPro Chain ⚡⚡⚡ Feel empowered! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5365322.0)
[ANN] RavenDex - First lending and decentralized exchange powered by cardano. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5363000.0)
[ANN] 🌍🌍🌍 Pacific DeFi 🌍🌍🌍 An ecosystem which will unify DeFi landscape (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5364650.msg58132410#msg58132410)
[ANN] 💿💿💿 EDAIN 💿💿💿 AI-powered knowledge creation ecosystem (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5369217.msg58487595#msg58487595)

What's interesting about this DragonBite project that is being promoted in that post is that it has ANN here on bitcointalk, and you can see several other members of that bumping group writing there.
⚡️⚡️⚡️DragonBite ⚡️⚡️⚡️ Platform for loyalty market (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5333315.0)



2852 total reported posts today -- Hooray!

I took them in order, from 10th page of your topic, then I took the ones from 9th page and now I am on the 8th page.

To be honest I never thought I can report so many posts within a day. Fortunately, mods worked together with me, to say so, thus almost all the posts are already deleted (at the moment of writing this I have 400 unhandled posts from the ones reported today).

I intend to continue tomorrow and next days as well, take all the topics I found mentioned in your thread, cleaning them one, by one, in the order they were mentioned. Now let's hope I'll also still have time for this :) Wish me luck!


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: decodx on December 21, 2021, 12:35:31 AM
2852 total reported posts today -- Hooray!

Oh my gosh, that's really impressive! I reported a dozen today.  :)

But I will keep reporting them so we can keep making a dent.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: GazetaBitcoin on December 21, 2021, 04:15:52 PM
Oh my gosh, that's really impressive! I reported a dozen today.  :)

Thank you and congrats! Keep reporting, padawan :)



Today I took care of the following threads:

I found at least two more announcement threads that are doing the same:

 [ANN][MORA] Meliora Finance Official Thread!! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5333203.0)
[ANN] [$FREN] Frenchie Official Thread!!! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5334740.msg56925209#msg56925209)
 [ANN] YFDAI |DEFI|Revolution in Decentralised Finance | Launchpad 🔥🔥 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5295276.0)

New candidates to your list.

[ANN]Gaia - is a decentralized autonomous organization (DAO) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5340737.0;topicseen).

Bunch of newbies [...] are showing same interest to [ANN]My Lotto Coin-Designed to empower players and disrupt unjust classic games (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5335700.0), [ANN]BSCCROP is the 1 Business Services Ecosystem Designed to Launch Blockchain (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5337102.0) and [ANN]SafeMoon Inu - the first dog to ever explore the galaxy (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5338293.0).

Total reported posts: 706!

Indeed, way fewer than yesterday and the day before, but what dragged me down was the thread of [ANN] YFDAI |DEFI|Revolution in Decentralised Finance | Launchpad, which had 58 pages and someone already reported posts from it, thus I had to properly analyze the leftovers. And, as it had 58 pages, it was not an easy job. However, I reported 448 posts within this topic alone. At the moment, about 300 reported posts from today are still unhandled, but nothing to worry about that.

Let's hope for a more productive day tomorrow :)


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on December 21, 2021, 07:57:11 PM
Total reported posts: 706!
Crazy effort, kudos. I've been kinda slacking when it comes to reporting in altcoin board, but can't just passively look you putting so much effort, so gonna reactivate as well!


Let's hope for a more productive day tomorrow :)
If we coordinate the efforts, maybe something can be done. From my experience, a lot of projects tend to cancel bumping service if their thread is consistently cleansed from that paid thrash. I doubt that we can run Vitor Services out of the business, but at least we could make their job much easier.



List has been updated with all those threads identified by @FatFork the other day. Keep 'em coming guys!


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Csmiami on December 22, 2021, 04:41:16 PM
You can easily test it out on one of the threads (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5236143.msg58747863#msg58747863) reported by @FatFork few days ago. Yesterday all posts were deleted, but they restarted again today, doing the same thing, and they even spread on new threads like [ANN] 🎮NFTCRAFT.GAME🎮 Play-to-Earn 🔸 with ~150% APY 🔥All NFT backed by ETH🔥  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5374787.msg58598005#msg58598005) and [Ann] A dog racing game based on RNG technology and built on BSC - DogyRace! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5375199.msg58768855#msg58768855).

I tried doing the test the other day, and I come with a result. I admit I was wrong, but I've also discovered the reason why.

I reported a single post in the thread you provided with a similar text to "low value post, likely bumping service". It got of course deleted, but there's a second part to it.

If I go check the link on the report history, I see the following:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5377979.msg58778701#msg58778701  according to that, topic ID=5377979 BUT, on the original thread, the one you linked; topic ID=5375199

I don't know exactly where this change comes from, but that explains why I was under the impression that the whole thread got derailed


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: GazetaBitcoin on December 22, 2021, 05:13:26 PM
Today I took care of the following threads:

Several accounts are actively involved in these threads. It's not hard to guess that this is part of a small bumping farm.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5312387.msg56278688#msg56278688
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5314120.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5286191.140
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5277218.0

ANN ✅ Paradice.in | 🍀 Provably Fair 🎲 | Rain☔| 30 sec Faucet | 1% House Edge 💰| (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5206291.0)

Found this gang posting only positive in same topics [ANN] CafeSwap a Yield Farming and Staking Platform on BSC Chain (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5334330.msg56906174#msg56906174) and [ANN] Work Quest - Global End to End Jobs Marketplace Powered on Smart Contract. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5331927.0)

Total reported posts: 514!

Again, fewer than yesterday and the day before, but some of these topics were huge so I had to spend a lot of time to properly see which posts need to be reported. I am now at post #134 of this thread and I'll continue taking the listed topics, one by one, still in backwards order (meaning lattest first). I mean after cleaning the topic mentioned at post 134 I'll go to the one mentioned at post #132 and so on.



Crazy effort, kudos.

Haha, thanks!

I've been kinda slacking when it comes to reporting in altcoin board, but can't just passively look you putting so much effort, so gonna reactivate as well!

Awww stop being a slacker, Rikafip :)

If we coordinate the efforts, maybe something can be done. From my experience, a lot of projects tend to cancel bumping service if their thread is consistently cleansed from that paid thrash. I doubt that we can run Vitor Services out of the business, but at least we could make their job much easier.

Uhm, maybe if someone starts cleaning some topics, s/he could mention here on which ones s/he is working...? For example, tomorrow I'll continue with the topics listed on page 7 of this thread. I am at post #134, as I said before, and I'll try to clean all mentioned between posts #121-#134.

Now it also depends on each one's style of work... For example, if I start cleaning a topic, I am not doing it so only until I see the spammers stop bumping it (meaning to report only the last posts). When I work on a topic I take all its posts, one by one, from the lattest to the oldest, going though all its pages, until reaching page 1. I am doing this so, as I consider that even though the spammers stop after seeing their last posts are deleted, nevertheless, there are still old spam posts inside that topic, which need to be cleaned as well...

List has been updated with all those threads identified by @FatFork the other day. Keep 'em coming guys!

Keep them coming!


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on December 22, 2021, 08:04:40 PM
If I go check the link on the report history, I see the following:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5377979.msg58778701#msg58778701  according to that, topic ID=5377979 BUT, on the original thread, the one you linked; topic ID=5375199
Weird, when I check topic with 5377979 ID, can't find anything, like it never existed, and it isn't archived either.



Uhm, maybe if someone starts cleaning some topics, s/he could mention here on which ones s/he is working...? For example, tomorrow I'll continue with the topics listed on page 7 of this thread. I am at post #134, as I said before, and I'll try to clean all mentioned between posts #121-#134.
Yep, some  coordination would be a good idea so we don't waste each others time and report posts that have been already reported.


Keep them coming!
3 new threads have been added to the list: NFTCRAFT GAME, Dogyrace and Axes Metaverse. Enjoy! :D




Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: FatFork on December 22, 2021, 08:35:59 PM
If I go check the link on the report history, I see the following:  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5377979.msg58778701#msg58778701  according to that, topic ID=5377979 BUT, on the original thread, the one you linked; topic ID=5375199
Weird, when I check topic with 5377979 ID, can't find anything, like it never existed, and it isn't archived either.

My reports history shows that the topic ID changes after a report has been handled by a moderator (as long as the report status is "good"). I think this is because posts aren't really deleted, but are moved to a sort of trash can, which is not accessible to regular members. I guess every topic has a corresponding, "shadow" topic ID in the database, which contains deleted posts from that topic.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Csmiami on December 22, 2021, 08:45:57 PM
My reports history shows that the topic ID changes after a report has been handled by a moderator (as long as the report status is "good"). I think this is because posts aren't really deleted, but are moved to a sort of trash can, which is not accessible to regular members. I guess every topic has a corresponding, "shadow" topic ID in the database, which contains deleted posts from that topic.
Yeah, that's how moderation on this forum (and many more) work. I was under the impression that this is what could be happening, but since I only had my own topic ID history, I couldn't really reach a conclussion. Thanks for the confirmation! I'll now have to keep on reporting each and every shitpost I see; not only the ones at patrol


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: GazetaBitcoin on December 23, 2021, 01:25:40 PM
Today I took care of the following threads (which are all from page 7 of this thread):

Another thread has been added to the list, making it 92nd.

[ANN] UBERSTATE — a leader in banking as a service for crypto currency! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5309383.msg56108302#msg56108302)

UBERSTATE is still work in progress on my side, as it's a huge thread.

They use same account posting sequence as in Totem. tiogallluli > maurearejumb > doubmiytiri > Akoan > leshogesan > Ronald22lubukuali ( easy to be noticed on Totem page 3 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5280601.40) and UBERSTATE page 1 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5279310.msg56133401#msg56133401)).

Here, the link to "UBERSTATE page 1 links to another topic though - [ANN] [ICO] JACS - Internet 3.0 Decentralized Infrastructure - which needed just a very small cleaning. Maybe bakasabo meant to link another topic...?

ANN: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5179233.0
ANN: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5043484.msg46488894#msg46488894, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5127091.msg50417137#msg50417137
ANN 2: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5096958
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2613681.0
ANN: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5266054.240, https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5280826

The rest of topics mentioned by icopress were deleted. Also, for Matic I think he forgot to add the topic... There were the only ones which needed "cleaning servies".

One more ANN thread added to the list, making it 94th.

 [ANN][IEO]Axentro - An original, proof of work Blockchain for decentralised Apps (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5310598.0)

While cleaning Axentro thread, this post made me laugh :)

An army of newbies to fill in the thread and an administrator who on Telegram replies "fuck you." Another scam.

I've found another representative for your list. Everyone please welcome [ANN] 🌳🌳🌳Moss.earth - The world's largest environmental platform (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5300666.0).

Another bumping service client. Everyone welcome CCM Cryptocurrency Market 'Defi' (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5313071.0;topicseen) [...]

Straight out of oven - [ANN] Beatbind - HELPS CREATE THE MOST MEMORABLE MUSIC EVENTS ON EARTH! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5313929.0;topicseen).

Here, second topic mentioned by bakasabo was also mentioned below by keyscore44.

It looks like business is booming as I found another ANN thread that probably also started using bumping service:
- [ANN] WorldToken — a unique platform that combines the best tokenomics of curren - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5312779.0

One more thread with bumping service. [...]
CENTUS is a new stablecoin on the Stellar blockchain - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5314951.0

^About this one, it say I can not access it O0 Maybe it's from a board I have at ignore...?

One more thread that can be added to the list of projects with poor marketing:

Beatbind - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5313929.0



Total reported posts: 514!
Tomorrow I'll continue with the topics listed on page 6 of this thread.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on December 23, 2021, 02:17:13 PM
My reports history shows that the topic ID changes after a report has been handled by a moderator (as long as the report status is "good"). I think this is because posts aren't really deleted, but are moved to a sort of trash can, which is not accessible to regular members. I guess every topic has a corresponding, "shadow" topic ID in the database, which contains deleted posts from that topic.
Interesting, haven't noticed that at all. I guess you learn something new every day.


Tomorrow I'll continue with the topics listed on page 6 of this thread.
Just a suggestion: maybe it would be better to start from the end and keep cleaning recently/currently active threads, as majoruty from those from the beginning are abandoned now and that's something I should update on the lost, change the status from active to inactive. Unless you already cleaned the new ones and all that's left is the old spam, which wouldn't be a surprise considering the amount of reports you did in the last few days. :D



New thread has been added to the list, 💎ALF.Finance💎|PancakeSwap Live Now🚀|ALFGAME soon🔥|x50 potencial🚀🚀🚀 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5377081.msg58726692#msg58726692). Just another useless crappy meme coin, desecrating the name of the beloved series from the 80s/90s (which I recently rewatched :D). I reported all spam posts there so hopefully they get deleted soon.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: FatFork on December 24, 2021, 11:58:14 AM
Tomorrow I'll continue with the topics listed on page 6 of this thread.
Just a suggestion: maybe it would be better to start from the end and keep cleaning recently/currently active threads, as majoruty from those from the beginning are abandoned now and that's something I should update on the lost, change the status from active to inactive. Unless you already cleaned the new ones and all that's left is the old spam, which wouldn't be a surprise considering the amount of reports you did in the last few days. :D

That's exactly what I do. Over the last few days, I've been reporting at least 50-60 posts a day from those topics at the bottom of the list. The good thing is that all newbie accounts get nuked. Hopefully, this will at least complicate the bumping service a bit since they have to create new accounts in order to continue.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: GazetaBitcoin on December 25, 2021, 09:36:17 AM
Just a suggestion: maybe it would be better to start from the end and keep cleaning recently/currently active threads, as majoruty from those from the beginning are abandoned now and that's something I should update on the lost, change the status from active to inactive. Unless you already cleaned the new ones and all that's left is the old spam, which wouldn't be a surprise considering the amount of reports you did in the last few days. :D

Yup, this is what I did and this is how I'll continue too. Actually, I think I said that above, but maybe you did not notice it :)

I took them in order, from 10th page of your topic, then I took the ones from 9th page and now I am on the 8th page.

I am now at post #134 of this thread and I'll continue taking the listed topics, one by one, still in backwards order (meaning lattest first). I mean after cleaning the topic mentioned at post 134 I'll go to the one mentioned at post #132 and so on.

I'd like to continue like this until reaching page 1 of this thread. Now I am still here:

UBERSTATE is still work in progress on my side, as it's a huge thread.

I did not have too much time yesterday and today to keep working but I hope I'll resume the cleaning process starting tomorrow or Monday.

Until then, let's celebrate Christmas :) Merry Christmas to everyone and a special note from Santa to those keeping the forum clean!


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: decodx on December 25, 2021, 10:14:47 PM
Until then, let's celebrate Christmas :) Merry Christmas to everyone and a special note from Santa to those keeping the forum clean!


Merry Christmas to you, too. And enjoy what's left of 2021!  :D


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on December 28, 2021, 09:07:19 PM
Yup, this is what I did and this is how I'll continue too. Actually, I think I said that above, but maybe you did not notice it :)
Yeah, I probably misunderstood your tactic. Anyway, keep it up!




Two new announcement threads that are using buming service have been identified, and will be added to the list. Same recently awoken newbie accounts that were used for bumping recently discovered threads are working in those two threads as well, so no question what's going on.

[Ann] The new Metaverse project -MetaLoop Tech! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5375367.msg58838440#msg58838440)
[ANN] Quarashi Network - One Product with Different Core Components (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5343987.0)


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: GazetaBitcoin on December 30, 2021, 07:39:00 PM
Gazeta is back! I've been very busy these days with shopping for Christmas and New Year's and I did not have too much time left for "cleaning services", but today I did this "chore" too :)

[Ann] The new Metaverse project -MetaLoop Tech! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5375367.msg58838440#msg58838440)
[ANN] Quarashi Network - One Product with Different Core Components (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5343987.0)

I cleaned both but I'll keep them under observation in case they will remain active.



UBERSTATE is still work in progress on my side, as it's a huge thread.

I finally managed to win the epic battle with UBERSTATE (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5309383.0) topic, which had no less than 32 pages of spam! Today I reported 560 posts of this topic and a total of 637 posts from it starting December 23rd, but I'm finally done with it O0 Now I am waiting the mods to take care of the reports. So far, the topic dropped from 32 pages to 27, but it will resume to 1-2 after the reports are handled. I think this is the biggest topic I ever cleaned.

Now I am at page 6 on this topic, at post #120. I will resume the cleaning in weekend, most likely.



And a quick question to all contributors: how do you find these ANN threads using bumping services? Is there any technique you use to notice them easier? :)

Thanks and Happy New Year to all!


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on December 31, 2021, 05:47:46 PM
Gazeta is back! I've been very busy these days with shopping for Christmas and New Year's and I did not have too much time left for "cleaning services", but today I did this "chore" too :)
Great job, as always!


And a quick question to all contributors: how do you find these ANN threads using bumping services? Is there any technique you use to notice them easier? :)
Majority of these threads I identified while scanning altcoin boards, looking for scams. Since I am not so active on the scambusting scene due lack of time, I am using a different strategy. So, I simply check accounts that are currently active in already identified threads and I check their post history to see if they started being active in some new threads as that only can mean that they got another gig.

For example, I checked thread that is already on the list (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5375199.msg58864603#msg58864603) and I saw account dtoni (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2711933) having 1 more post written, beside that thread, and that is [ANN]AdLunam - The industry’s first NFT-integrated Engage to Earn seed crowdfund  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5377168.msg58731641#msg58731641). One look at that thread and its pretty obvious what is going on, as there are several others recently awoken newbie accounts writing similar nonsense. Rinse and repeat.


Thanks and Happy New Year to all!
Same to you buddy!


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: FatFork on December 31, 2021, 06:45:49 PM
And a quick question to all contributors: how do you find these ANN threads using bumping services? Is there any technique you use to notice them easier? :)

Similar to how Rikafip described, I usually make a list of all newbie accounts I notice are active in a thread that uses a bumping service. I then go through their posting history to find out if they've been active in other threads. This usually leads to a few more ANN threads that follow a similar pattern.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: decodx on January 01, 2022, 09:05:04 AM
There are several newbies who are posting and bumping these threads, so it's likely that they are doing so as part of the bumping service. The topics are still new, but they seem to fit the pattern.

Topic: (ANN) Fundraise Launchpad- Happy New Year 2022 Offers! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5379058.0)
Topic: [ANN]AdLunam - The industry’s first NFT-integrated Engage to Earn seed crowdfund (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5377168.0)



Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on January 01, 2022, 04:35:27 PM
There are several newbies who are posting and bumping these threads, so it's likely that they are doing so as part of the bumping service. The topics are still new, but they seem to fit the pattern.

Topic: [ANN]AdLunam - The industry’s first NFT-integrated Engage to Earn seed crowdfund (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5377168.0)
I already mentioned that one in my last post, it's just that I was lazy to add it to the list. Anyway, it's been sorted now.



Topic: (ANN) Fundraise Launchpad- Happy New Year 2022 Offers! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5379058.0)
As a matter of fact, these guys didn't hire bumping service, but instead they organized an airdrop and one of the tasks is to leave a reply on their bitcointalk thread, as seen on the screenshot of their google form below. While thread bumpers usually write shitty one-liners, posts left by those airdopers are even worse than that as all they usually wrote is "great project", or something along those lines, and its a classic sign that it might be the airdrop case.

Since they didn't hire bumping service they won't be added to the list but instead I reported their thread to mods as hey are breaking forum rules so hopefully their thread gets deleted.

https://i.postimg.cc/fTZFc0dJ/Screenshot-2022-01-01-at-18-25-11-Fundraise-Launchpad-Airdrop-Program.png
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSf3_1D2OpBWsbHndFYg3BBE2Xm2CrZziVp_StPp-DoXc-XP6A/viewform


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: GazetaBitcoin on January 03, 2022, 03:12:56 PM
Back in business and Happy New Year! :)

At first, today I took a look over the projects mentioned since beginning of December, which I already cleaned, to make a double check in order to see if they are still active. Some were active and I reported 90 posts from these ones.

Then I took care of the last ones mentioned here:

I checked thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5375199.msg58864603#msg58864603)

There are several newbies who are posting and bumping these threads [...]

Topic: (ANN) Fundraise Launchpad- Happy New Year 2022 Offers! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5379058.0)
Topic: [ANN]AdLunam - The industry’s first NFT-integrated Engage to Earn seed crowdfund (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5377168.0)



After those three threads I resumed cleaning the old ones. These are the ones I cleaned today:

one more ANN has been added to the list [...]
🎲 Rubic 🎲 Multichain DeFi platform  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5292869.0)

One more ANN thread added to the list

[ANN] Cryptoenter - THE WORLD'S FIRST DEFI SERVICE ON THE ENTERPRISE BLOCKCHAIN! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5288767.0)

Two new additions to the list

 [Ann] ⭐️ XENIUMX ⭐️ ⚡ Digital Asset eCommerce Token ⚡ ⭐️ (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5299019.0)
xpocket - The one-stop solution for your crypto assets (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5292404.0)

One more announcement thread has been added

[ANN] Mirror Protocol Launch - Trade real-world assets with crypto now! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5291553.0)



you can add this thread to the list [...]
[ANN][DeFi] The fastest way to earn DeFi passive income. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5305207.0)

I think that [ANN] Workbit - Freelance platform (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5306152.0) belong to be in the list of using bumping service.

Accounts peter054 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=379208) and riefly (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=986648) have previously shilled in ZECZERO (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5282881.0), their wallets were detected to be malware:

One more thread has been added to the list

[ANN] BUMO - Public Blockchain for Ubiquitous Value Transfer (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5308064.0)

Summing a total of 1029 posts reported.

I will continue from page 5 of this topic backwards (from post #100 backwards). Maybe until end of January I will finish cleaning also the topics mentioned within the first 100 posts.



Great job, as always!

Thank you Rikafip :)

Majority of these threads I identified while scanning altcoin boards, looking for scams. Since I am not so active on the scambusting scene due lack of time, I am using a different strategy. So, I simply check accounts that are currently active in already identified threads and I check their post history to see if they started being active in some new threads as that only can mean that they got another gig.

Similar to how Rikafip described, I usually make a list of all newbie accounts I notice are active in a thread that uses a bumping service. I then go through their posting history to find out if they've been active in other threads. This usually leads to a few more ANN threads that follow a similar pattern.

Hehe, thank you both for sharing your tips & tricks!


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: lovesmayfamilis on January 05, 2022, 12:06:41 PM
Another announcement using the bumping service. As usual, several accounts are registered in one day.

1.dolbikc (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2609169)   Date Registered:   May 24, 2019, 05:31:40 PM   
2.ZyreXtem (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2613833)   Date Registered:   May 29, 2019, 05:25:58 PM
3.DarcyLO (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2613837)   Date Registered:   May 29, 2019, 05:30:46 PM
4.Seebsab (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2614122)   Date Registered:   May 29, 2019, 10:51:57 PM
5.RonaldSadr (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2611771)   Date Registered:   May 28, 2019, 02:10:23 AM
6.BulkWaks1 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2611768)   Date Registered:   May 28, 2019, 02:06:33 AM
7.WersicyMonree (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2720101)   Date Registered:   November 25, 2019, 11:19:23 AM
8.Poll98 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2720788)   Date Registered:   November 26, 2019, 04:37:42 PM
9.Dandelegle (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3373467)   Date Registered:   August 27, 2021, 04:56:17 PM
10.Noth7mone (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3373471)   Date Registered:   August 27, 2021, 05:07:28 PM
11.Brave25 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3358182)   Date Registered:   July 20, 2021, 02:57:44 PM


[ANN] Intelly Tech - Enhancing property development and real estate with the pow (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5379563.0)


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Welsh on January 07, 2022, 01:33:19 PM
Now that I've come across this thread, I'll take a look at this thread periodically, and act accordingly based on what I find. Just give me some time to comb through this thread first of all, and then the reported threads themselves.

If things seem to be not being acted upon, then it might be a good idea to report some posts, but include the link to this thread so a moderator can comb through any content that's not been reported through the "report to moderator" button, but instead has been posted in this thread.

I can already see some usernames that I've got in my list to revisit later.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: GazetaBitcoin on January 07, 2022, 03:04:25 PM
Heads-up:

Another announcement using the bumping service. As usual, several accounts are registered in one day. [...]
[ANN] Intelly Tech - Enhancing property development and real estate with the pow (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5379563.0)

I clean this one twice already :)

Then I resumed cleaning from post 100 backwards:

Another project with bumping services.

ANN BaexDapp - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5278713.0

Two new threads have been added to the list:

🚀 WINZ.IO 🚀 MACAU QUEST 🎁 UP TO 6 BTC BONUSES 🥇🥈🥉 €1000 SLOTS BATTLE (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5239387.0) [...]
ANN] Bonfi (BNF) - Innovating DeFi (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5279586.0)

New addition to the list:

[ANN] EXOLOVER - First Decentralized Sex Platform (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5275623.0)

Two new threads have been added to the list

78. [ANN] BambooDeFi: Staking, Farming & Raindrop ecosystem. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5286017.0)
79. Finminity. DeFi Finance solution for Community based crowdfunding (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5286246.0)

ideaology - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5285038.0

Two new additions to the list:

 [ANN] Investro - THE NEXT STEP IN AUTOMATED SOCIAL TRADING (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5287186.0) [...]
📢[ANN][PRESALE] Base Protocol: HOLD ONE TOKEN - HOLD ALL TOKENS | [BASE] 🚀🚀   (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5283589.0)

You can add the following ANN thread to your list.
[ANN][TGE][AIRDROP] Sylo - decentralised communication network and ecosystem (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5034972.0)

Summing a total of 704 posts reported. Practically, I entirely finished cleaning also page 5 of this thread.

I will continue from page 4 of this topic backwards (from post #77 backwards).



Now that I've come across this thread, I'll take a look at this thread periodically, and act accordingly based on what I find. Just give me some time to comb through this thread first of all, and then the reported threads themselves.

Welcome to the team, Welsh! I am sure that having you here will make things way smoother than how they were until now. I am very happy that you joined us :)


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Welsh on January 07, 2022, 05:34:36 PM
Welcome to the team, Welsh! I am sure that having you here will make things way smoother than how they were until now. I am very happy that you joined us :)
The good news is a lot of the users that are being reported have already been zapped by other staff. So, its just a matter of cleaning up the threads. I'll take a look more in depth on the particularly suspect ones, and see if I can find if they're offering an incentive to post. Though, I do suspect the vast majority are done via the sock puppet method.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: decodx on January 07, 2022, 10:30:39 PM
The good news is a lot of the users that are being reported have already been zapped by other staff. So, its just a matter of cleaning up the threads. I'll take a look more in depth on the particularly suspect ones, and see if I can find if they're offering an incentive to post. Though, I do suspect the vast majority are done via the sock puppet method.

Yes, I noticed some of the accounts I reported were nuked. That's good.
I'm sure they'll try again with new accounts, but I believe we can make a difference if we join forces. It's great to have you with us, Welsh.  :)


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: GazetaBitcoin on January 08, 2022, 06:49:28 PM
Heads-up:

Today I cleaned the following topics:

One more project that is using bumping service in order to promote thier announcement thread has been added to the list!

Fetch.ai and Bitfinex announce trading competition and catalyst sale (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5270135.0)

@Rikafip please consider checking and adding this topic for Free2ex exchange.[...]
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5262757.0

That's not all for today, there is another addition

Uncommonn is a platform connecting vendors and customers   (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5272737.0)

72. 【ANN】JBOXCOIN - JBOX - Listed 2 Exchange and Airdrop is Live (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5269656.0)

Summing a total of 360 posts reported. Not too many today, but I did not have too much time. I am now at post #66 and I'll continue backwards from there.



A funny note, while reading all these posts over and over I noticed that many repeat in different topics. It's like Vitor Services has a batch of questions / post and every newbie is picking a line from there and post it, otherwise I don't understand how it's possible to literally see very same words in all those bumped topics: excepting the "great project" / "awesome news" and others like that, they always post "when AMA", "when moon", "liquidity", "ambassador program", "cooperation with government". But, by far the most ridiculous question I found is this:

What do you think about the new President of America?

Now what in the world does this have to do with those topics? =)))))))



we can make a difference if we join forces. It's great to have you with us, Welsh.  :)

This reminded me of what I wrote almost 2 years ago about the Mods Gang and Spambusters Gang :)

7. The SpamBusters Gang
Supreme Leader: iasenko (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1291828)
Known members and adulators (wannabees): bitart, buyinbtc, DarkStar_, digaran, Heisenberg_Hunter, Jet Cash, Lafu, LogitechMouse, LoyceV, mdayonliner, stompix, seoincorporation, Silent26, suchmoon, theyoungmillionaire, Welsh, wwzsocki, xtraelv, Rikafip, GazetaBitcoin, decodx and many others.
Reputation: members are very aggresive fighters; they atack at first sight any spam. Spammers, beware!
Activity: Busting rule-breakers for more than a year (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5226757.msg53866697#msg53866697).
ANN: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4720640.0.
First Mention: July 22nd, 2019, 00:19:10
Misc: this gang is in good relations with Mods Gang. Although they don't have an alliance per se, they have a good collaboration on mutual interests. The forum served many times as their battlefield in their endless wars against the Cheaters Gang.
Emblem:
https://i.ibb.co/1QFRrcR/NiLxI5y.png

Indeed, Rikafip's thread is not the one of the spambusters, but we are part of the same movement  ::)


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Welsh on January 16, 2022, 07:01:37 PM
Yes, I noticed some of the accounts I reported were nuked. That's good.
I'm sure they'll try again with new accounts, but I believe we can make a difference if we join forces. It's great to have you with us, Welsh.  :)
Busy week this week, but I'll probably look at all of these threads in the coming weeks. Hopefully by then, we'll only be dealing with new users rather than cleaning up old threads. Feel free to continue reporting that way other moderators can handle them, but if not I'll be going through them slowly regardless. I've cleaned up two threads as of now, with one of them being removed completely. Also, probably some of the threads that were mass reported by users have already been pretty much cleaned up.

What do you think about the new President of America?

Now what in the world does this have to do with those topics? =)))))))
Yeah, there's been a few users that use this exact same sentence, and should all be nuked. There's also varying other phrases which are similar, which again the users should all be nuked.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: GazetaBitcoin on January 17, 2022, 09:32:05 AM
Heads-up:

Since my last post I cleaned the following topics:

Two new announcement threads has been added to the list making it 64th and 65th so far.

[ANN]🏆 PosBit-Safe and reliable exchange for crypto and main fiat currencies 🏆 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5266103.0)[...]
🔵🔵🔵[ANN]🔵 PAYACCEPT- WORLDWIDE PAYMENTS ACCEPTED IN SECONDS! 🔵🔵🔵 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5258011.0)

PosBit-Safe - 220 reports; PAYACCEPT - 123 reports.

@Rikafip if you can please add topics I found that are using bumping spam services:

[...][ANN] ZYX NETWORK - A GROUND-BREAKING POS-BASED PRODUCT FOR A WIDE AUDIENCE (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5265765.0)
[...][ANN] tap - Access to crypto trading and banking | Mastercard Approved] (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5140307.0)
[PHR] PHORE BLOCKCHAIN - Private Decentralized Marketplace & Ecosystem. POS/MN.] (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3179265.0)
[ANN][SHR] ShareRing - The world's first trusted token for sharing services (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2977847.0)[...]
Satoshi Club x Zelwin AMA (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5266607)
Satoshi Club x Statera AMA  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5266388)
Satoshi Club x Dext AMA (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5264839)
Satoshi Club x BC Game AMA (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5264696)
Satoshi Club x CEEK AMA (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5264278)
Satoshi Club x Bitbns AMA (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5263621)
Satoshi Club x MANTRADAO AMA (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5263356)
Satoshi Club x Counos X AMA (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5262381)
Satoshi Club x RSK AMA (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5261255)
Satoshi Club x Particl AMA (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5258795)
Satoshi Club x Stonk AMA (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5258743)

By far, this post of notblox1 took all my time since January 8th. All Satoshi Club topics represented 149 reports. ZYX Network - 21 reports. Tap - 93 reports. But the greatest challenge were the topics of ShareRing (362 reports) and PHORE (1288 reports). ShareRing topic was reduced from 52 pages to 33, while PHORE topic was reduced from 162 pages to 101. Right now I still have 103 unhandled reports from PHORE topic, which means it'll go to under 100 pages after they will be processed.

All in all, I reported 2255 posts from all these topics!

And with this, I also finished cleaning all the topics from page 4 of current thread. I am now at 3rd page, at post #60. I will continue from here backwards.



I've cleaned up two threads as of now, with one of them being removed completely.

Great job, Welsh! Maybe it'll be better to also mention here which topics you cleaned / nuked...?

Also, probably some of the threads that were mass reported by users have already been pretty much cleaned up.

All my reports were handled (excepting the ones from today).



Welsh, I have a question: I noticed than 100% more than 99.9% of my reports which had the comment "Zero-value post" were marked as good and the posts were deleted. This is great news! However, during my reporting activity, in several topics I noticed users which made multiple posts in a row, which I also reported. In the past, such reports of mine were flagged as good. But within these topics, I received some bad reports and this is somehow disappointing. Do you have any idea why these reports of mine were flagged as bad? I will give you some examples below (all being posts which I reported with this comment - "Posting multiple posts in a row").

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3179265.msg54683832#msg54683832 - as you see, user _decentralise made 2 posts in a row
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3179265.msg55452775#msg55452775 - user Cappex made 3 posts in a row
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3179265.msg55513179#msg55513179 - again, user Cappex made 2 posts in a row
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3179265.msg55737458#msg55737458 - again, user Cappex made 2 posts in a row

Seeing that those reports were flagged as bad, I ignored all the other multiple posts in a row, although I noticed very many of them, especially inside PHORE topic.

Then I have 5 reports for same Cappex, the posts were deleted, but the reports are flagged as bad  ???

https://i.ibb.co/BCrzB45/jHQcDme.png

Same happened with 3 reports for user Oren_ishi:

https://i.ibb.co/fN0XzgN/NkmFZ0z.png
https://i.ibb.co/C6PXBS4/VyufjLL.png

And with 3 reports for user BountyHunt5:

https://i.ibb.co/Y2nLkJN/go1bo6n.png
https://i.ibb.co/1nK3VT9/wXzPUqj.png

Do you have any idea why this happened?


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rizzrack on January 17, 2022, 03:32:12 PM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3179265.msg54683832#msg54683832 - as you see, user _decentralise made 2 posts in a row
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3179265.msg55452775#msg55452775 - user Cappex made 3 posts in a row
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3179265.msg55513179#msg55513179 - again, user Cappex made 2 posts in a row
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3179265.msg55737458#msg55737458 - again, user Cappex made 2 posts in a row
...
Do you have any idea why this happened?

Those are not really "posts in a row" in the bad sence.
They are "daily updates / daily info / daily news" so they should be in different posts. They are ~24h apart ...

The fact that a few consecutive posts from a thread belong to the same user is not always seen as "posting in a row". The users that you mentioned are not newbies so it was not me who handled your reports but FWIT that's just my 2 cents :)


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Welsh on January 18, 2022, 01:24:58 PM
Depending on the moderator handling the reports, they might merge the posts together or they might simply mark the report as bad. Really does depend on the context, and the moderator that's handling the report. Although, what Rizzrack said is probably accurate in this case.

Don't worry too much about it, if you pick up a bad report here, and there. I know it can be a pain to your score, but I suspect when your reporting this many posts accurately your probably at 100% accuracy regardless.

On a side note, I expect to be going through the majority of threads today. Hopefully, they'll be a big clean up by the end of the day.

Current progress: The majority of the threads between 81 - 149 should be pretty much clean. Although, I do need to merge a few of the posts together which I'll do later after getting the majority of the spam deleted.

I do need to revisit a few problematic threads though so not 100 percent of that range will be perfectly cleared right now. The problematic threads are just some of the larger ones which need a little more scrutiny.

Also, I'll be looking to do further digging on quite a few of them, to see if they're indeed paying for these posts. If anyone can also help prove that, let us know.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on January 18, 2022, 05:06:51 PM

Also, I'll be looking to do further digging on quite a few of them, to see if they're indeed paying for these posts. If anyone can also help prove that, let us know.
What exactly would be a proof enough that they are paying for those posts? Would maybe table like the one below suffice, to see the clear connection between the accounts and various threads. I mean, for what other reason would same group of (mostly newbie) accounts write on the same group of threads, if not for being paid to do exactly that?



Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Welsh on January 18, 2022, 05:20:07 PM
What exactly would be a proof enough that they are paying for those posts? Would maybe table like the one below suffice, to see the clear connection between the accounts and various threads. I mean, for what other reason would same group of (mostly newbie) accounts write on the same group of threads, if not for being paid to do exactly that?
A lot of the time these sort of projects are advertising in their Discords, Telegram or whatever other communication they have. They often offer posting for an incentive. Though, I suspect these particular projects are doing it under the cuff.

I did find some advertising an incentive for posting though, which were removed. I suspect by some of the threads I came across that were already removed for the same reason.

Otherwise, its pretty obvious most of the time when users are posting in the same threads, and they're using the same phrases. Most of the users that are in these threads should now be banned or were already banned. However, its difficult to prove that the people behind the thread are paying for bumping services, despite it probably being quite clear they're. So, I won't be removing any threads that I can't prove are doing it, since that would open up a can of worms for projects trying to frame competitors.  

Tables like the one you've linked are useful for banning individual accounts. However, if possible I'd like to get to the source of the problem if possible.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: GazetaBitcoin on January 18, 2022, 05:41:53 PM
Heads-up:

Since my last post I cleaned the following topics:

Here are a few more threads for the list. They seem to be using the same bumping service.

 Crypto Cricket Club 3Cs  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5256127.0)
 ⚡[ANN] ⚡SENSITRUST: The decentralized job marketplace ✅  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5235440.0)
 ETH2X.COM | ⭐Multiplayer ⭐ Ethereum Gambling (ETH) ⭐Roulette ⭐Low House Edge  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5254320.0)

Cleaned all three topics - 139 posts reported.
Sadly, inside Sensitrust topic I found an account from 2011 used for spam - nico6616 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=28740).

OP can you please check one more topic that maybe deserves to be added to the list of bumping services for using fake conversation?
MASSIVE BREAKTHROUGH - BIRTH OF PRIVACY COIN ZORRO:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5259409

Cleaned - 108 posts reported.

There is one more new addition, making it 53 at the moment:
 [ANN] Minereum - 🔥 MNE STAKING IS LIVE! 1000% REWARDS + 60% REFERRER BONUS 🔥  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4495159.1060)

This was another monster topic, with no less than 82 pages :) I reported 236 posts here and now the topic is reduced to only 69 pages.

Here are a few more threads that deserve to be added to the list.

  • [ANN][PRE SALE] COREGROUP.CC - Decentralized Software Solutions Platform (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5262597.0)
  • [ANN][SHR] ShareRing - The world's first trusted token for sharing services (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2977847.0)

I reported 46 posts from COREGROUP topic. Regarding ShareRing, I already cleaned this topic as it was also posted by someone else.

One more announcement thread added to the list of those that are using bumping services:

🔥[ANN] IEO starts on July25] [XTK] -Xtake.cash - Universal Blockchain Income 🔥 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5262767.msg54813153#msg54813153)

Here I reported 32 posts.

Monolith - пepвый pyблeвый cтeйблкoйн (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5264044)
Monolith - the first decentralized ruble stablecoin (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5263945)

Sadly, I could not clean the Russian topic, due to lack of knowledge of this language (maybe Welsh can take a look?). In the other topic I made 159 reports and it was reduced from 19 pages to 10.

Also, while cleaning Monolith topic, I found this very amusing post made by one of the spammers :)

read this news? An anonymous investor bought more than 40,000 ETH on the decentralized exchange Uniswap. As a result of his actions, the cryptocurrency exchange rate on the platform soared by 13%, which caused him to overpay almost $2 million.
And?
I don't know, just a news
Please, don't spam

Sadly, I also found another account from 2011 used for these spams - gisellamarone (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=31093)...

One more announcement thread  has been added
🌟 [ANN][REAP] ReapChain - Secure and Transparent Blockchain-Based IoT Ecosystem  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5260297.0)

This one was another great challenge, as it had 60 pages of spam. Now, after 730 reports, the topic has only 18 remaining pages.

All in all, I reported 1450 posts from all these topics!

Now I am at post #45 and I'll continue from this one backwards.



Besides all these, I have a suggestion to Rikafip: all topics from OP and post #2 appear as active, but not all of them are active anymore. Would you like me to make an update for all the threads mentioned in OP and post #2, in order to reflect reality? Another thing, maybe it would be better if you would add one more column to the table, named "Cleaned?" and state a "Yes" or a "No" at each topic, in order to be easier to see which ones still need cleaning?



Those are not really "posts in a row" in the bad sence.
They are "daily updates / daily info / daily news" so they should be in different posts. They are ~24h apart ...

The fact that a few consecutive posts from a thread belong to the same user is not always seen as "posting in a row".

I understand. I thought though that only OPs are allowed to do such posts. So other users can also have multiple posts in a row, if they are made after 24h?



Don't worry too much about it, if you pick up a bad report here, and there. I know it can be a pain to your score, but I suspect when your reporting this many posts accurately your probably at 100% accuracy regardless.

Hehe, thanks for encouraging me, Welsh! Sadly, my accuracy is not 100%, but I work a lot to get it there. And it is not 100% because when I started making reports I did not pay too much attention and I made a lot of duplicate reports (meaning about 400 bad reports), which took me to an accuracy of only 75%. Since then I am eagerly trying to improve it. Now this is how my stats look like:

https://i.ibb.co/CHDLZPv/u9Rc43r.png

Another curios aspect you can notice is the very high number of unhandled reports. This is another mill stone I'll have to always carry with me. This is because 1838 of those 1926 unhandled reports will never be handled. They were reported last year or 2 years ago, most of them were for the immense spam from Press board and, for some reason, nobody handled them. And, as reports disappear from the list after one month, now no mod can even see them (assuming that there would be a mod interested in handling those old reports). So I have a "tail" of 1838 unhandled reports which will always follow me. The difference from 1838 to 1926 - these are 88 reports I made a few minutes ago. After they will be processed, the number of unhandled reports will remain 1838...

On a side note, I expect to be going through the majority of threads today. Hopefully, they'll be a big clean up by the end of the day.

Current progress: The majority of the threads between 81 - 149 should be pretty much clean.

Good job! I was not aware that mods clean threads on their own, without having reports. I always thought that they act only based on the receive reports... Do mod act on their own too, or are you a special case? :)
And about your cleaning process, I have a suggestion if I may: I would recommend to go post by post, instead of taking all the threads listed in OP and in post #2. It is possible that some to not appear in OP (maybe Rikafip did not consider them worth to be mentioned or simply forgot?; such examples are the SatoshiClub topics (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5236143.msg54940954#msg54940954) mentioned by notblox1 and cleaned by me, but some other ones can be found as well if you go post by post). It may take more time, but if you want to be 100% percent sure you did not miss anything, you should follow this suggestion.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on January 18, 2022, 05:51:22 PM
What exactly would be a proof enough that they are paying for those posts? Would maybe table like the one below suffice, to see the clear connection between the accounts and various threads. I mean, for what other reason would same group of (mostly newbie) accounts write on the same group of threads, if not for being paid to do exactly that?
A lot of the time these sort of projects are advertising in their Discords, Telegram or whatever other communication they have. They often offer posting for an incentive. Though, I suspect these particular projects are doing it under the cuff.
Yeah, announcement threads mentioned in this topic are doing it more subtle, as they are not giving their tokens in exchange for thread bumping, but instead they are paying "marketing agency" to that, and you usually won't find any written evidence of that.

Last time when I provided exactly the kind of proof you are talking about, for some thread wasn't deleted. Back on January 1st I reported this thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5379058.msg58850347#msg58850347), provided the proof that they are offering incentive for thread bumping, but my report remained unhandled. Evidence below should be good enough, right?

So, few days ago I reported to mods announcement thread that has bitcointalk reply as one of the requirements for their airdrop, which is against the rules.  Few days passed, and nothing happened so far so I am asking if others can report the thread as well, maybe that helps.

Ann thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5379058.0

Here is the proof

https://i.postimg.cc/fTZFc0dJ/Screenshot-2022-01-01-at-18-25-11-Fundraise-Launchpad-Airdrop-Program.png
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSf3_1D2OpBWsbHndFYg3BBE2Xm2CrZziVp_StPp-DoXc-XP6A/viewform

Their TG group where that airdrop is spread https://t.me/fundraiselaunchpad



It is possible that some to not appear in OP (maybe Rikafip did not consider them worth to be mentioned or simply forgot?; such examples are the SatoshiClub topics (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5236143.msg54940954#msg54940954) mentioned by notblox1 and cleaned by me, but some other ones can be found as well if you go post by post). It may take more time, but if you want to be 100% percent sure you did not miss anything, you should follow this suggestion.
The main reason why i didn't include SatishiClub topics is because I am only focused on threads that are active at the moment of discovery due simple reason: that list would be at least 4x bigger if I included all those old topics that were being bumped and I didn't want to waste my (or mods time) cleaning old and abandoned threads but instead focus on the ongoing ones.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Welsh on January 18, 2022, 05:57:40 PM
I understand. I thought though that only OPs are allowed to do such posts. So other users can also have multiple posts in a row, if they are made after 24h?
I would probably merge them together if it was myself handling them. Though, moderators tend to handle it differently when it comes to consecutive posts. Sometimes they're deleted, sometimes they're merged, and then sometimes they're left there, and marked bad. Usually, if its not important news, doesn't have much content, and isn't made by the OP it'll be merged, generally.

Hehe, thanks for encouraging me, Welsh! Sadly, my accuracy is not 100%, but I work a lot to get it there. And it is not 100% because when I started making reports I did not pay too much attention and I made a lot of duplicate reports (meaning about 400 bad reports), which took me to an accuracy of only 75%. Since then I am eagerly trying to improve it. Now this is how my stats look like:
Ah well continue how your going, and I'm sure you'll get enough of a theshold to get to that 100 percent. For the most part your reports have been solid.

Another curios aspect you can notice is the very high number of unhandled reports. This is another mill stone I'll have to always carry with me. This is because 1838 of those 1926 unhandled reports will never be handled. They were reported last year or 2 years ago, most of them were for the immense spam from Press board and, for some reason, nobody handled them. And, as reports disappear from the list after one month, now no mod can even see them (assuming that there would be a mod interested in handling those old reports). So I have a "tail" of 1838 unhandled reports which will always follow me. The difference from 1838 to 1926 - these are 88 reports I made a few minutes ago. After they will be processed, the number of unhandled reports will remain 1838...
Yeah, unfortunately even if a moderator was interested in clearing up old unhandled reports, there's no way of doing it. However, I hope you've found a new surge of motivation considering most of your reports are being handled these days! Hopefully that can continue.


Good job! I was not aware that mods clean threads on their own, without having reports. I always thought that they act only based on the receive reports... Do mod act on their own too, or are you a special case? :)
Nah, I'm definitely not a special case :D :D. Many moderators delete posts that haven't been reported. The statistics available in Meta though only take into account posts that have been reported. I would say that you could probably double the reports every month, and you won't be far off the total amount deleted. Though, that's just a rough estimation, by no means is that backed up by any sort of data.

And about your cleaning process, I have a suggestion if I may: I would recommend to go post by post, instead of taking all the threads listed in OP and in post #2. It is possible that some to not appear in OP (maybe Rikafip did not consider them worth to be mentioned or simply forgot?; such examples are the SatoshiClub topics (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5236143.msg54940954#msg54940954) mentioned by notblox1 and cleaned by me, but some other ones can be found as well if you go post by post). It may take more time, but if you want to be 100% percent sure you did not miss anything, you should follow this suggestion.
I'll be going through the backlog just so its easier for me to keep track, and then I'll go through the threads that haven't been mentioned in the OP. I also monitor the sections periodically, and delete what I find just by normal browsing. So, while there's an ongoing process of finding this spam, this thread has significantly increased the amount of the backlog being cleared. Same as reports, though I understand not everyone has time to report individually so a thread or reporting just one post is sometimes the only way, which is fine.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: wwzsocki on January 19, 2022, 01:46:03 PM
...Since my last post I cleaned the following topics...

I wonder how you choose them? I see that most of them are from last year, or started at least few months ago.

Do you have any strategy when you choose which one to take? Maybe newer once or actively used could bring more effects?

In the past I also cleaned many of them myself and lately I came across one of many spammy old threads and thought to report and clean it but it is still like fighting with the windmills, so I leaved it.

I really appreciate what you do because I know how much time it costs, even if you get into practice, it takes a few hours for the work you did. Well done mate.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: GazetaBitcoin on January 19, 2022, 08:58:43 PM
Heads-up:

Since my last post I cleaned the following topics:

Two new announcement threads added  to the list, both are from the same project, Simba Storage.

🔥[ANN]SIMBA Storage-Stablecoin baked by Bitcoin Satoshi (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5260057.0)
🔥[ANN]SIMBA Storage - Cтeйблкoин Oбecпeчeнный Caтoши  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5260056.0)

I cleaned the English topic - 96 reports.

Rikafip, you can add the following ANN thread to your list:

TimeCoinProtocol - decentralized sharing economy protocol (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5260205.0)

I cleaned this one too - 97 reports.

With these two topics I also finished page 3 of this thread. Now I am at page 2.



Another Ann Thread Using Bumping service:
Ann Thread link: [ANN] ⚡ [ICO] 🎬 clipX - E-Learning Platform on Blockchain (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5254282.0)

Cleaned - 23 reports.

Three new additions to the list, still have no clue how those "marketing agencies" manage to sell that when it's so fake and totally ineffective.

[ANN] V SYSTEMS - Blockchain Database and App Platform by Sunny King [SPoS/Mint] (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5095853.0)
[ANN] [IEO] [p2pb2b] | 30% Bonus | L2L Token | Sustainable World (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5179650.100)
BINARY OPTIONS SIGNALS EPIC 400% TRADER GROUP - HIGH ACCURACY SIGNALS 24 HOURS (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5256462.0)

Here I reported a total of 224 posts for all three topics.

Two more ANN  threads added to the list:

[ANN] DSF - The SoFi Blockchain - Redefine Social Network with Blockchain (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5256136.0)
[ANN] HEX2X - A lucrative, high-interest currency, designed to reward stakers (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5256614.0)

First one of these 2 topics was clean. On second topic was a lot of work, as I had to report 280 posts.

@Rikafip, can you check this ZenLedger service ANN thread: Do I really have to pay taxes on crypto investments? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5230635.0) by zenledgerio (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2772074)

This was another topic difficult to clean, as it had 36 pages. Here I reported 695 posts and the thread was reduced from 36 pages to 1.

All in all, I reported 1415 posts from all these topics!

Now I am at post #28 and I'll continue from this one backwards.



The main reason why i didn't include SatishiClub topics is because I am only focused on threads that are active at the moment of discovery due simple reason: that list would be at least 4x bigger if I included all those old topics that were being bumped and I didn't want to waste my (or mods time) cleaning old and abandoned threads but instead focus on the ongoing ones.

That makes sense, I totally understand.

Rikafip, did you see this part of my previous message?

Besides all these, I have a suggestion to Rikafip: all topics from OP and post #2 appear as active, but not all of them are active anymore. Would you like me to make an update for all the threads mentioned in OP and post #2, in order to reflect reality? Another thing, maybe it would be better if you would add one more column to the table, named "Cleaned?" and state a "Yes" or a "No" at each topic, in order to be easier to see which ones still need cleaning?



I would probably merge them together if it was myself handling them. Though, moderators tend to handle it differently when it comes to consecutive posts. Sometimes they're deleted, sometimes they're merged, and then sometimes they're left there, and marked bad. Usually, if its not important news, doesn't have much content, and isn't made by the OP it'll be merged, generally.

Oh I see, thank you for explaining me, Welsh! But I have a question though, regarding multiple posts in a row: why are OPs allowed to do it though...? According to rule 32,

32. Posting multiple posts in a row (excluding bumps and reserved posts by the thread starter) is not allowed.

unless they have reserved posts, not even OPs should be allowed to have multiple posts in a row. Therefore, why are they allowed?

Ah well continue how your going, and I'm sure you'll get enough of a theshold to get to that 100 percent. For the most part your reports have been solid.

Thank you, Welsh! This post of theymos is what gave me so much determination recently:

These are the people who have the most good reports over the last year

I mean I made reports in 2020 and 2021 too, but seeing me that in 2020 I was the 4th most efficient reporter determined me to be eager to be even a better one! Now it's probably impossible to catch up with Ratimov (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5058163.280) or actmyname, but I'll do my best :)



I wonder how you choose them?

They are all listed here, inside Rikafip's topic... I just pick them one by one :)

In the past I also cleaned many of them myself and lately I came across one of many spammy old threads and thought to report and clean it but it is still like fighting with the windmills, so I leaved it.

Awww, never give up!

I really appreciate what you do because I know how much time it costs, even if you get into practice, it takes a few hours for the work you did. Well done mate.

Thank you so much! Indeed, to report ~1000 posts in a day takes me like 8h or so... It's not easy, but I do my best. For example, on Christmas 2021 I had 8000 good reports and now I have 20564! :) It's doable, with effort...


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Welsh on January 19, 2022, 09:23:18 PM
Oh I see, thank you for explaining me, Welsh! But I have a question though, regarding multiple posts in a row: why are OPs allowed to do it though...? According to rule 32,

32. Posting multiple posts in a row (excluding bumps and reserved posts by the thread starter) is not allowed.

unless they have reserved posts, not even OPs should be allowed to have multiple posts in a row. Therefore, why are they allowed?
It's more based on the moderator handling it. I usually merge these types of posts, and handle the post as good. Though, other moderators obviously handle it differently. If you wanted a specific answer as to why they wasn't handled good you'd have to contact the moderator that handled it, though that can be difficult to determine. For example, if you take a look at some of the threads which you've been reporting in you'll find myself, and Mprep merging posts that are both news, and replying to other users consecutively. Usually, its to better organize the thread, and not for it to be annoying for users to navigate.

Reserve posts are allowed because sometimes its cleaner to do so, and there is a limit to the amount of characters in a post, albeit its pretty high.

In the past I also cleaned many of them myself and lately I came across one of many spammy old threads and thought to report and clean it but it is still like fighting with the windmills, so I leaved it.
If you would find it easier to report one post, and indicate in the report message that there's much more spam in the thread itself, then that's perfectly fine! Sometimes with large threads, and a lot of other discussion going on its more convenient to moderators to have individual posts reported, but if your limited for time reporting a single post is more than acceptable, and the moderator handling it will always read the report message before handling it.

You wouldn't be alone, a number of users have done this in the past, and its sometimes more efficient for everyone.



Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on January 19, 2022, 10:02:45 PM
Rikafip, did you see this part of my previous message?

Besides all these, I have a suggestion to Rikafip: all topics from OP and post #2 appear as active, but not all of them are active anymore. Would you like me to make an update for all the threads mentioned in OP and post #2, in order to reflect reality? Another thing, maybe it would be better if you would add one more column to the table, named "Cleaned?" and state a "Yes" or a "No" at each topic, in order to be easier to see which ones still need cleaning?

Ah sorry, completely missed that one.

Regarding the first suggestion about updating the status, you are absolutely right. I planned to do that for quite some time, but somehow always found the reason to postpone it. I will definitely try to do that soon, when I have a little bit more free time.

About adding one more column, maybe I should simply edit current status with "Cleaned" and sort that out in a more convenient way, isntead adding one more column as it would take some time considering size of the list. Anyway, will think about it.





Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: GazetaBitcoin on January 20, 2022, 05:11:04 PM
Heads-up:

Since my last post I cleaned the following topics:

Stake TERN on BlockCard For The Best Crypto Debit Card (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5250185.0)

Cleaned - 44 reports.

Can you check and add this topic for MARTKIST coin?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5219308.0

Cleaned - 50 reports.

Two new ANN threads have been added to the list:

37. [ANN] [CryptoNight] BminerCoin - Heavy mining and remote control  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5248281.0)
38. 🚀AFFILCOIN: STAKE & DELEGATE |DPoS|🔥PROFIT-10% a month|🤑PROMO-EARN 100k COINS (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5225266.0)

I could not access first topic. Probably it was deleted... I cleaned second one though - 41 reports.

Another ANN has been added,  [ANN][PYRK][POW-MULTI][SHA][SCRYPT][X11][MASTERNODES][COMMUNITYFUND][EXCHANGE] (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5247112.0).

I think this was previously cleand by someone else. Here I had only 7 posts to report.

It seems that this Russian theme also uses a bumping service.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5228414.40

Sadly, I could not do anything for this topic, as I do not know Russian. Maybe Welsh can take a look though...

Two new announcement  threads added to the list of projects that are hiring bumping service:
[ANN] PIVX LITE\POS v3.0\PIVX Masternodes\USB Tor\Mobile Wallets Soon (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5222955.0)
[ANN] OPP Open Wifi (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5246012.0)

Cleaned both - 128 posts reported.

Another thread which is using bumping services is Largo Coin (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5200762.0).

This was another monster thread, having 35 pages full of spam. I had to report 611 posts in this case.

All in all, I reported 906 posts from all these topics!

Now I am at post #21 and I'll continue from this one backwards.



Maybe until end of January I will finish cleaning also the topics mentioned within the first 100 posts.

As far as I see, there are only 18 topics remaining to be cleaned. I think I can reach the deadline I wrote above :)



Ah sorry, completely missed that one.

Regarding the first suggestion about updating the status, you are absolutely right. I planned to do that for quite some time, but somehow always found the reason to postpone it. [...]

About adding one more column, maybe I should simply edit current status with "Cleaned" and sort that out in a more convenient way

It's okay, I can do it for you if you want :) If you look at my post, you'll see that I asked if you would like me to do it :) I will present you a draft here if you like and see how it goes.



Great job, GazetaBitcoin.

Thank you!

Well, share your successes in the form of reporter statistics? ;)

I already did that a few days ago :) Look above (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5236143.msg59019975#msg59019975).


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Welsh on January 20, 2022, 11:44:01 PM
As far as I can tell a lot of the threads in the original post are now somewhat cleaned apart from a few exceptions which will take a little longer to go through. I've likely revisit them from time to time to see if we've got any new spam waves, though judging by the activity of a lot of them, I suspect whoever has been behind the spam waves have either quit or moved on.

Sadly, I could not do anything for this topic, as I do not know Russian. Maybe Welsh can take a look though...
We have Russian speaking moderators which are pretty active. So, you can just report them if you suspect something is up. You don't necessarily need to know the language to report if you've recognized a pattern, the moderators that can speak the language (not limited to Russian) can then review it. Yeah, there's probably a slightly higher chance of getting a bad report, but really it doesn't matter all that much.

I personally won't act on a report that I don't understand the language of. We have local moderators for a reason :).

 


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Welsh on January 21, 2022, 09:45:00 AM
I plan on merging the consecutive posts that have been left on the original list. I'll then review the replies in this thread.

I looked through that topic, but outright spam has long been deleted there, there are more or less constructive posts left, so there is no point in reporting this topic, most likely there will be only Bads for sent reports.
Sweet, I guess my overall message was in the future don't be afraid of reporting the thread, and indicating in the report field that you suspect certain users are bumping the thread or engaging in fake conversations. It's only one bad report, and I'm sure the local moderators would appreciate more reports that could potentially clean up their section.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on January 21, 2022, 12:02:42 PM
It's okay, I can do it for you if you want :) If you look at my post, you'll see that I asked if you would like me to do it :) I will present you a draft here if you like and see how it goes.
Imho, no need to waste time of that since I think that using current "Status" column should be enough, I'll try to sort that out this weekend when I have a little bit more free time. I appreciate the offer though. 👍



As far as I can tell a lot of the threads in the original post are now somewhat cleaned apart from a few exceptions which will take a little longer to go through. I've likely revisit them from time to time to see if we've got any new spam waves, though judging by the activity of a lot of them, I suspect whoever has been behind the spam waves have either quit or moved on.
Majority of those threads simply cancel that bumping service when they see that their thread is going nowhere and posts have been deleted constantly day after day. But yeah, it's not a bad idea to revisit the threads occasionally as some of them will attempt the same thing, thinking that they lost the attention.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Welsh on January 21, 2022, 12:12:00 PM
With the amount of effort everyone's put in recently, I suspect we'll have another 20k report month (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5360272.0) ahead of us.

Majority of those threads simply cancel that bumping service when they see that their thread is going nowhere and posts have been deleted constantly day after day. But yeah, it's not a bad idea to revisit the threads occasionally as some of them will attempt the same thing, thinking that they lost the attention.
Yeah, some were active fairly recent. Although, I usually just scour threads in the first couple of pages of the Altcoin sections these days, since they're at least getting actively viewed by a large amount of users. I will revisit from time to time though, as it's much more manageable to catch them early, and remove their posts bit by bit, rather than having to report, and delete thousands of reports.

I appreciate the effort from everyone here though, we've probably removed over 5000 posts in the last few days/weeks. That's probably completely underestimating the real amount too.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: GazetaBitcoin on January 21, 2022, 03:11:50 PM
Heads-up:

Since my lat post I cleaned the following topics:

[ANN]✅TOZEX ✅- CryptoAsset Platform for Issuing, Financing & Trading 💵 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5241191.0)
 [MainNet Stage] Cocos-BCX‘s First Batch of 38 Ecosystem Buidlers & Angels List  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5235613.0) was deleted some time ago, but they have another thread with the same name where they keep doing the same thing - shilling Cocos BCX, so instead of that thread, I've put the link of the new one (number 21 on the list).

Cleaned both - 343 reports. First topic was already cleand (I reported just 1 post from it). Second topic was a monster one, with 28 pages and I had to report 342 posts from it. Actually I had to report all 556 posts from it, but a mod was ahead of me and started to delete the topic posts before I had time to report them all :) Now it seems the topic was entirely trashed. Great job mod!

Having these 2 threads cleaned as well I finished cleaning everything from page 2 of current topic. Now I am at page 1.

Three new announcement threads added to the list today:

1.[MASS] Decentralized HARD DRIVE mining cryptocurrency | PoC | Low Energy cost (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5230593.0)
2. [ANN][FUND]🚀🚀🚀A Smart Index Fund for everyone | BETAFUNDS 🚀🚀🚀 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5240988.0)
3.[ANN] [CHND] CashHand (The Next Giant E-Commerce) (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5228772.0)

Cleaned all 3 topics - 522 reports. MASS was by far the most difficult topic to clean from I cleaned so far. First of all, it had 32 pages. Second of all, it was full with both good and spam posts, made also not only by newbies. I had to spend several hours to read carefully each post... Many were at the limit between spam and offering a useful information... It was horror to clean this topic! Absolutely horror! :) I reported 468 posts from MASS topic.

I got to this topic [ANN] [EXCHANGE] Atomars - Fast and Secure Digital Assets Exchange Platform] (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5185050.0)

Cleaned - 21 reports.

You can add the following ANN thread to your list.

[ANN][WSLT] White Stripe Lottery | Changing the view of gambling (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5234254.0)

Cleaned - 35 reports.

2 announcement threads added to the list.

🛡️ Cleobet.io - New licensed Bitcoin sportsbook - 🎁 100% deposit bonus  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5237705.0)
[ANN][AAB] AAX - The World’s First Digital Asset Exchange by LSEG Technology (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5236459.0)

Both threads as previously cleaned as I had to report only 8 posts.

You can add [ANN]🌱TreeCoin 🌿 Зeлёный Пapaгвaй для зeлeнoгo бyдyщeгo 🌱 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5224070.0) to the list.

I could not take care of this, as it's written in Russian. Maybe a Russian speaker can take a look.

3 new ANNs added to the list:

[ANN] Emirex Official - The Infrastructure for the New Digital Economy (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5179932.0)
[ANN] 🔶🔶🔶 Prizm Cash - SAME SAME, BUT DIFFERENT 🔶🔶🔶 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5235724.0)
[MainNet Stage] Cocos-BCX‘s First Batch of 38 Ecosystem Buidlers & Angels List (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5235613.0)
Cocos-BCX has old ANN thread  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5139871.0)where they massively used bumping services for months, despite reports and tags

Here I cleaned second topic - 26 reports.
Coco's topic was deleted, as I stated above, but the old one still exists and it has 103 pages. Emirex has 115 pages. I will leave for later these ones, together with the topic mentioned at post 12 (Modul topic), lattest one having 251 pages. After I finish cleaning all remaining topics I will take care of these 3 monster topics too.

New ANN added to the list. Same accounts that were working on Burstex and Crybet are now working on the HEX.
[ANN] HEX - Investment platform of the new generation  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5234620.0)

This thread was also cleaned, as I had to report just 1 post.

All in all, I reported 845 posts from all these topics!

The only topics remaining to be cleaned (together with the 3 ones mentioned above) are: Crybet, the one from post 6 and the ones from post 3 (four topics), meaning a total of 9 topics. They may seem few, but they have 592 pages and more than 11.800 posts to be checked O0



I'll try to sort that out this weekend when I have a little bit more free time. I appreciate the offer though. 👍

Roger that :) In case you need any kind of help, please let me know.



With the amount of effort everyone's put in recently, I suspect we'll have another 20k report month (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5360272.0) ahead of us. [...] I appreciate the effort from everyone here though, we've probably removed over 5000 posts in the last few days/weeks. That's probably completely underestimating the real amount too.

At the end of December (around Christmas) I had 8032 good reports. Now I have 22.327 and 328 pending to be handled. And on January 1st I had 13.737 good reports. Therefore in the last days we certainly cleaned more than 5000 :)

Yeah, some were active fairly recent [...] I will revisit from time to time though

I also intend to to a double check over all topics after I finish passing through the remaining ones -- just to make sure I reported everything and, in case some are still active (the ones mentioned from December to present could be active) to re-clean them


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Welsh on January 21, 2022, 04:08:09 PM
At the end of December (around Christmas) I had 8032 good reports. Now I have 22.327 and 328 pending to be handled. And on January 1st I had 13.737 good reports. Therefore in the last days we certainly cleaned more than 5000 :)
Sweet, I know I've probably handled around 4000/5000 of the reports in the last week, obviously other moderators have pitched in too, but I didn't know the exact number. Going by those numbers though I expect we could potentially hit 30k reports in this months period, which would be quite something.

Most of the crap from these threads have been cleaned though, so I expect this will be slowing down in the coming months. Cheers for the help though, definitely feels quite therapeutic to clean up the forum, doesn't it?


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on January 21, 2022, 07:26:02 PM
I am posting this here even though I think they didn't hire bumping service, but since we have forum staff active here I thought it won't hurt to share it here.

So, while browsing altcoin section I noticed some weird activity in 🔥✅[ANN]🔥 PDX Coin | Global Payments and Digital Banking Platform & App (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5381242.0) thread. It didn't quite look like standard bumping service activity, so I checked their bounty thread and saw that as a part of their signature campaign, participants have to write at least 3 posts in their own ANN.


Rules:
...
  2. You must make at least 3 constructive comments per week on the PDX Coin Bitcointalk ANN https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5381242


@Welsh This is a clear violation of the rule found in altcoin section, right, which says that "Incentivising posting within one or more threads is not allowed".


From https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=434310.0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=434310.0):

You can do giveaways off-site and link to the giveaway page in a thread, but you can't give people any bonus for replying to your thread.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Welsh on January 24, 2022, 07:09:31 PM
Yeah, someone else has already moved it to the trashcan, if you find bounties which are offering an incentive to post, report them right away, and they'll be handled appropriately. Usually, by moving the thread to the trashcan, and then banning the OP, which is exactly what has happened in this case.

Good job. There's a lot that tend to do this by the way.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: GazetaBitcoin on January 25, 2022, 09:19:40 PM
Heads-up:

Since my lat post I cleaned the following topics:

Two announcement threads from the list changed their  status to "Inactive"
  • Crybet stopped with their bumping activities 2 weeks ago, soon after being busted for plagiarized content, accounts tagged and bunch of posts deleted

Cleaned - 179 posts reported.

You can take a look on [ANN] BURSTEX.io - Crowd Owned Exchange - Profits Shared Among Token Holders  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5218386.msg53629907#msg53629907)

Cleaned - 246 posts reported.

If you check ARC IRIS Hydrogen announcement thread, and Burstex announcement thread, you will see that they have similar configuration [...] Another thing that both Burstex and ARC IRIS Hydrogen have in common is that both are having those fake conversations going on. They are using Ann bumper service, without knowing that bumping doesn't work as it was before, so they are just wasting money on  that. And no wonder that no one is answering your questions, as they are too busy shilling this.

I found this topic by pure chance, while cleaning the above mentioned one. I saw Rikafip's post and I found this ANN thread. I found it and it was also full of spam. I don't know why it was not added here, but I reported 427 posts of this thread.


please add this thread to your list:

ILCOIN ANN thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5156245.1420)
Pyro network ANN thread
Old thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5215017.0 (locked)
New thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5221130.0
MADANA ANN thread
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4796017.msg53916938#msg53916938

Cleaned all 4 threads - I reported a total of 1326 posts. ILCOIN was second biggest topic I ever cleand, after PHORE (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5236143.msg59006989#msg59006989), with 71 pages / 1169 reports and it took a lot of effort to clean. At the moment the topic was reduced to 32 pages but I still have hundreds of unhandled reportes from it, which means it'll remain very short. What amazed me though was that this ANN thread was started by a member with reputation here, btcltcdigger. He is a Hero member and I really wonder why he allowed that spam inside his topic... What is even more interesting is that he never involved in his own thread. He just posted the ANN and that was all. Perhaps, if he sees this post, he may come with an explanation.

All in all, I reported 2262 posts from all these topics!



Having these topics also cleaned, the remaining ones are the three monster topics mentioned in my previous post, summing a total of 469 pages:

[ANN] Emirex Official - The Infrastructure for the New Digital Economy (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5179932.0)
Cocos-BCX has old ANN thread  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5139871.0)where they massively used bumping services for months

Another ANN added to the list, thanks to @iasenko who reported one old thread that is being bumped for a  few years one, and made by questionable account.
[ANN][PRE-ICO] 🚀🚀 ModulTrade : The Freedom To Trade 🚀🚀  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2240518.0)

I will try to take care of them this week.



I looked through this entire thread and found 17 shitposts that have already been safely deleted by the moderators:

Great job, Ratimov, thank you. If you can, please take a look at this other Russian topic (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5264044). I mentioned it in a previous post.



Cheers for the help

Cheers!

definitely feels quite therapeutic to clean up the forum, doesn't it?

Ohhh yeahhhh! Imagine that since January 1st I reported almost as many good reports (10400) as I did it in previous 2 years (13727)! It feels amazing!  ::)


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Welsh on January 25, 2022, 09:58:13 PM
What amazed me though was that this ANN thread was started by a member with reputation here, btcltcdigger. He is a Hero member and I really wonder why he allowed that spam inside his topic... What is even more interesting is that he never involved in his own thread. He just posted the ANN and that was all. Perhaps, if he sees this post, he may come with an explanation.
btcltcdigger was likely the announcement manager, and wasn't involved with the project itself. The amount of spam, and sockpuppets communicating there was ridiculous. I started to delete each post individually, however I quickly come to realise that pretty much no one else posted on the thread, but the same accounts that continued going back, and forth with mostly nonsense. I removed the thread completely. I suspect it was the people behind the project that hired a bumping service, and not necessarily the announcement manager. Though, that's largely an assumption rather than a matter of fact.

Anyway, most of the accounts that were going back, and forth were banned already, so a global moderator had already dealt with most of them.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on January 25, 2022, 10:11:51 PM
Yeah, someone else has already moved it to the trashcan, if you find bounties which are offering an incentive to post, report them right away, and they'll be handled appropriately.
Will do! Can you please check the case that I mentioned in one of my previous posts, where project advertised giving tokens in exchange for comments, but they did it via thier telegram group. Isn't that breaking forum rules as well?


I started to delete each post individually, however I quickly come to realise that pretty much no one else posted on the thread, but the accounts that continued going back, and forth with mostly nonsense. I removed the thread completely. I suspect it was the people behind the project that hired a bumping service, and not necessarily the announcement manager.
Great to hear that is possible! Back in October 2020 I started thread in Meta asking exactly that

I am going straight to the question: Is it possible to delete announcement threads that have no real interest, OP is not sharing news/updates and basically only ones that are active are shill accounts? I know that usual practice is to delete those threads that organize giveaways in exchange for payment (breaking the rule nr 28) , but why not expand it to announcement threads that are doing almost the same thing by hiring one of those "marketing agencies"?

Here are few examples  of threads which are tirelessly spammed for months and meet the above mentioned criteria (no activity from legit members, inactive OP, huge amount of posts deleted due shill account spam):
...

Unfortunately I never got a reply from forum stuff regarding my question. but for me it was kinda logical  to remove those thread completely if there is absolutely nothing else going on, except those thread bumpers leaving their crap. By using that approach, you can make your life much easier as bunch of those threads that can be found on the list fall under that category.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Welsh on January 25, 2022, 10:21:33 PM
Will do! Can you please check the case that I mentioned in one of my previous posts, where project advertised giving tokens in exchange for comments, but they did it via thier telegram group. Isn't that breaking forum rules as well?
PDX? I thought the bounty thread was moved to the trashcan or are you talking about another one I've missed?


Great to hear that is possible! Back in October 2020 I started thread in Meta asking exactly that
I don't usually, I generally try to give the benefit of the doubt, but this one in particular was so painfully obviously using a bumping service, and the fact that it was a locked thread, and pretty much no one else showed an interest the entire thread, apart from a few who happened upon it at some point, asked a question, and never returned. So, usually I don't completely remove threads unless I get proof of bumping, but since most of it was already gone, their social channels etc, I could only use my common sense, and it was just one of the worse ones out there.

I have seen global moderators take a similar approach now, and again. Probably for the more extreme examples. I wouldn't expect it every time though, as I usually like to take the cautious route, and go through it all one by one. However, this was just an exceptional case, and the users which were contributing to the spam were already banned, presumably because of the bumping.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on January 25, 2022, 10:29:21 PM
PDX? I thought the bounty thread was moved to the trashcan or are you talking about another one I've missed?
Not PDX, another topic that had similar situation like PDX but it wasn't deleted, my report is still unhandled. In past, similar threads usually got deleted so I was surprised that such an obvious case was ignored.

So, few days ago I reported to mods announcement thread that has bitcointalk reply as one of the requirements for their airdrop, which is against the rules.  Few days passed, and nothing happened so far so I am asking if others can report the thread as well, maybe that helps.

Ann thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5379058.0

Here is the proof

https://i.postimg.cc/fTZFc0dJ/Screenshot-2022-01-01-at-18-25-11-Fundraise-Launchpad-Airdrop-Program.png
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSf3_1D2OpBWsbHndFYg3BBE2Xm2CrZziVp_StPp-DoXc-XP6A/viewform

Their TG group where that airdrop is spread https://t.me/fundraiselaunchpad



However, this was just an exceptional case, and the users which were contributing to the spam were already banned, presumably because of the bumping.
Well, good to hear that it's still possibility, no matter how rare it happens.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Welsh on January 25, 2022, 10:52:28 PM
This thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5379058.0 has been trashed/removed. So, I'm assuming it has been handled, but your report has remained unhandled for whatever reason. Wasn't me that handled it, I don't recall seeing it in my report queue either. So, not sure of the specifics of why your report has remained unhandled. Usually, when threads are removed, they're automatically handled. Though, I think I do recall in certain situations reports don't get handled for whatever reason, but disappear from the queue. I thought this was when moving it to the trash can, which we generally only do in specific situations.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on January 25, 2022, 11:02:36 PM
This thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5379058.0 has been trashed/removed. So, I'm assuming it has been handled, but your report has remained unhandled for whatever reason. Wasn't me that handled it, I don't recall seeing it in my report queue either. So, not sure of the specifics of why your report has remained unhandled. Usually, when threads are removed, they're automatically handled.
Yeah, looking now at my report history, thread is marked as deleted  but last time I checked (I think it was yesterday), thread was still there, that;s why I mentioned it again. Anyway, good to see that its been deleted, no matter who did it. And for status still remaining unhandled, it's not a problem as I saw it happened before, not a big deal.

https://i.postimg.cc/jSHPN2gD/Screenshot-2022-01-26-at-01-01-57-Your-reports.png



Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: GazetaBitcoin on January 26, 2022, 05:13:05 PM
Heads-up:

Since my last post I cleaned the following topics:

I made a triple check over the threads posted since December 2021. Two of them are still active:
[ANN] Intelly Tech - Enhancing property development and real estate with the pow (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5379563.0)
Topic: (ANN) Fundraise Launchpad- Happy New Year 2022 Offers! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5379058.0)

It seems the newbies spamming them are very tenacious. I reported 107 posts from both threads. It seems that Fundraise topic was completely trashed after my reports from today.

Miner Performance-Boosting Firmware By MSKMINER (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5260906.0)

I found MSKMINER topic by pure chance. Following Rikafip's previous post,

I am going straight to the question [...] @icopress recently created topic in scam accusation board about few similar threads ANN Removal Request: Uncommonn, Amepay, MSKMINER, Monolith (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5278823.msg55281064#msg55281064)

I noticed he quoted icopress there and icopress mentioned 4 topics full of spam. Uncommon was already clean; AMEPAY and Monolith were previously cleaned by me, but MSKMINER needed cleaning services though. I reported here 83 posts.

Then I started cleaning the biggest thread ever mentioned here, this one being one of the 3 which I still want to clean:

Another ANN added to the list, thanks to @iasenko who reported one old thread that is being bumped for a  few years one, and made by questionable account.
[ANN][PRE-ICO] 🚀🚀 ModulTrade : The Freedom To Trade 🚀🚀  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2240518.0)

This thread has 251 pages and 5016 posts  :o and I started cleaning it from page 251 backwards. Now I am at page 215 and I reported 607 posts so far. I will continue tomorrow, hoping to finish it. This topic is absolutely amazing, in a way, as the total spam goes from 2018 to 2020 without stop. While reporting post after post from last page backwards, from posts made in 2020 to posts made in 2018, I noticed that about 3 "generations" of newbies spammed. What was even more incredible was the fact that during 2019 and 2020 99% of the posts were made almost only by these newbies. It's like someone paid for bumping services for more than a year and also paid for different generations of newbies. Who would do something like that, seeing that his shitty product does not attract any other user? I would understand if the topic was spammed for a while, to keep it look like it's active, in order to attract other users curious about the product. But seeing that only 2-3 posts were made by other members in more than a year, this means that the service provider paid for these bumping services... for nothing! I really don't understand the logic behind this. It's like... OP was not even interested in selling his product anymore... like he simply paid to harm the forum through spam!

All in all, I reported 774 posts from all these topics!



btcltcdigger was likely the announcement manager, and wasn't involved with the project itself.

I believe that too. However, I think that a topic starter has responsibility for what happens inside his topic. At least, this is what I think about my topics. As the situation is now, the following questions pop in a natural manner: did btcltcdigger know that his topic will be used for bumping services?; if so, was he paid too, to allow the spam?; why didn't he do anything to defend his reputation (e.g.: clean the topic or state somewhere that he is not involved anyhow in that spam nor he was paid for initiating a topic for pure spam)?

The amount of spam, and sockpuppets communicating there was ridiculous. I removed the thread completely.

The topic was removed indeed, but prior trashing it you flagged as Bad a few reports I made there. It's not fair :p Since you completely deteled that topic, you could also mark as Good those reports which were flagged as Bad  ::)



spam from bots quickly ended (at the moment there is none)

Thank you again for your help, Ratimov!


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Welsh on January 29, 2022, 12:43:11 PM
Think the record for reporting might be broken this month. There's been a lot of reports, and not just in relation to this thread.

I believe that too. However, I think that a topic starter has responsibility for what happens inside his topic. At least, this is what I think about my topics. As the situation is now, the following questions pop in a natural manner: did btcltcdigger know that his topic will be used for bumping services?; if so, was he paid too, to allow the spam?; why didn't he do anything to defend his reputation (e.g.: clean the topic or state somewhere that he is not involved anyhow in that spam nor he was paid for initiating a topic for pure spam)?
That would be difficult to confirm. It doesn't seem like all of his threads are using bumping services. So, there's a lack of data to make any sort of accurate conclusion. Also, can't comment on defending their reputation, doesn't seem they're active in the reputation section. I've taken a look at a few of their other topics, though. They don't seem particularly concerning.

It might just be that they post it, and then don't monitor it much afterward, which definitely wouldn't be the way I go about it, but I guess some users do that.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: decodx on January 29, 2022, 02:43:21 PM
<...>
It might just be that they post it, and then don't monitor it much afterward, which definitely wouldn't be the way I go about it, but I guess some users do that.

Yes. It seems they were hired by the project owner just to create and publish an ANN topic. Much like the translators in the local sections do.



<...> this means that the service provider paid for these bumping services... for nothing! I really don't understand the logic behind this. It's like... OP was not even interested in selling his product anymore... like he simply paid to harm the forum through spam!

There might be a simpler explanation. Someone may have set up a bumping bot and forgotten about it. :)
While I don't know too much about it, I suspect something like that is possible.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on January 29, 2022, 06:35:36 PM
<...> this means that the service provider paid for these bumping services... for nothing! I really don't understand the logic behind this. It's like... OP was not even interested in selling his product anymore... like he simply paid to harm the forum through spam!

There might be a simpler explanation. Someone may have set up a bumping bot and forgotten about it. :)
While I don't know too much about it, I suspect something like that is possible.
Nah,  I don't think that someone forgot to turn off the bot. One of the selling points that those "marketing services" like to use when selling the bumping is that some ICO tracking sites are giving ratings based on activity on their bitcointalk ann threads.

For example, this is from ICObench, probably the most popular ICO tracking site. As you can see, they track social media platforms, and among them you can find bitcointalk. Only newbies care about ICObench rating but then again, that's their target audience.

https://i.postimg.cc/pTS9HCPQ/Icobench1.png


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: GazetaBitcoin on January 31, 2022, 03:29:01 PM
Heads-up:

Since my last post I cleaned the following topic:

Another ANN added to the list, thanks to @iasenko who reported one old thread that is being bumped for a  few years one, and made by questionable account.
[ANN][PRE-ICO] 🚀🚀 ModulTrade : The Freedom To Trade 🚀🚀  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2240518.0)

This thread has 251 pages and 5016 posts  :o

This topic was the most difficult to clean I ever encountered. 1.5 years it was spammed by newbies. About another 1.5 years it was spammed by members with various ranks, from Jr. Member to Legendary. I never saw any other topic spammed by so many users with high profiles. This is also why it took so many days to finish cleaning it. If you are curious, LoyceV made a list with all the spammers (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4720640.msg54148172#msg54148172) from this topic. Actually, I encourage you to take a look! :)

All in all, I reported 3936 posts from all this topic! It's length reduced to only 56 pages / 1101 posts, but I still have 105 unhandled reports from it so it will probably remain with only 50 pages out of 251. I think I'll perform a double check on it though, to ensure I reported everything that deserves to be reported.



Having this topic also cleaned, the remaining ones are the ones below, summing a total of 218 pages:

[ANN] Emirex Official - The Infrastructure for the New Digital Economy (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5179932.0)
Cocos-BCX has old ANN thread  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5139871.0)where they massively used bumping services for months

I will start with Emirex, as it's longer than the other one. It has 115 pages and 2296 posts. Let's see how much it will shorten...

Sadly, I did not manage to clean all the topics from this thread before end of January, as I hoped so, but still, I was very close to reach that deadline, as only 2 topics are now remaining to be cleaned :) I hope I'll finish with these ones in a few days.



Think the record for reporting might be broken this month. There's been a lot of reports, and not just in relation to this thread.

I certainly hope so :) I myself made 15.100 good reports in January hihi (and there is still some time left until end of the day :)).


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Welsh on January 31, 2022, 11:00:42 PM
For example, this is from ICObench, probably the most popular ICO tracking site. As you can see, they track social media platforms, and among them you can find bitcointalk. Only newbies care about ICObench rating but then again, that's their target audience.
Yeah, this is basically why threads still get flooded to this day. When the bumping changes were implemented by theymos that did contribute a lot to the reduction of spam, but things like this continue to fuel the underground market of bumping announcement threads unfortunately.

I see ICOBench's logic in wanting to have this as a measurement, however they probably don't realise how much this harms Bitcointalk in terms of spam.

I certainly hope so :) I myself made 15.100 good reports in January hihi (and there is still some time left until end of the day :)).
Yeah, you've definitely been busy as of recent. I've probably only handled around 5000 of them. Who knows, we might get a 30-35k report month.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on February 02, 2022, 04:52:31 PM
Just identified new group of ANN threads that hired bumping service. What's weird here is that one of them is a really old project from 2015 (DECENT) that has 800 pages but suddenly decided to push their thread once again via this useless service. Others threads are recently created so might be the best idea to start reporting posts written there. Here are the threads:

🚀 [ANN] PadLock | Decentralized Communications And Security Solutions 🚀 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5383154.msg59097483#msg59097483)
Cryptoprosol - The Best Solution To Any Issues You Have Concerning Cryptocurreny (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5376198.msg58994649#msg58994649)
[ANN] Gentlemen's Baby Club [GBC] NFT CLUB #ETH #blockchain (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5383107.msg59080349#msg59080349)
[ANN] DECENT - Decentralizing Content Distribution (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1162392.0)
🚀 [ANN] Stabila Public Chain (STB) | Decentralize the financial system. 🚀 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5379020.0)
{ANN} Income Finance 20% Reflection rewards paid in BUSD! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5383269.0)


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Welsh on February 02, 2022, 08:18:15 PM
Just identified new group of ANN threads that hired bumping service. What's weird here is that one of them is a really old project from 2015 (DECENT) that has 800 pages but suddenly decided to push their thread once again via this useless service. Others threads are recently created so might be the best idea to start reporting posts written there. Here are the threads:
I'll work through the backlog of reports I have, and I'll then manually go through these threads myself, and actively monitor them from then on wards. Added to the list of others, my list is nearly as long as my leg now. Appreciate the heads up though.

Definitely a strange case for them to start bumping with such a long period of inactivity, but if they're bumping it now, no doubt they did it back in 2015. I'll go through the entire thread.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on February 02, 2022, 08:55:44 PM
Definitely a strange case for them to start bumping with such a long period of inactivity, but if they're bumping it now, no doubt they did it back in 2015. I'll go through the entire thread.
Maybe I didn't express myself properly; they weren't inactive since 2015, they started this project back in 2015. They almost certainly used some bumping service as you don't 800 pages thread for a completely unknown project (at least to me) without some push. On CMC they are listed as "untracked listing" while I couldn't even find them on Coingecko. Looks like they gave up yet they are trying with this marketing technique.

Anyway, definitely reporting material, at least last page or two as that's when this new group appeared.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Welsh on February 03, 2022, 12:12:33 AM
Maybe I didn't express myself properly; they weren't inactive since 2015, they started this project back in 2015. They almost certainly used some bumping service as you don't 800 pages thread for a completely unknown project (at least to me) without some push. On CMC they are listed as "untracked listing" while I couldn't even find them on Coingecko. Looks like they gave up yet they are trying with this marketing technique.

Anyway, definitely reporting material, at least last page or two as that's when this new group appeared.
I think I understood correctly, been inactive since 2015, but recently started back up again, right? This isn't really the norm, most projects seem to push it hard when they've just started to launch the most, though as you've rightly pointed out before, some do it to keep up ratings from external websites.

I haven't had a look at it yet, I've gotten through my report backlog though, so I'll likely start taking a look in the morning. I usually treat actively viewed threads as a priority, and revisit the older stuff when I have time. For example, threads which are in the first few pages on the Altcoin section, usually get seen to first, at least that's the idea. There's a bunch of threads that are currently active, and have been for a few years, but somehow managed to avoid being cleaned up.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: GazetaBitcoin on February 04, 2022, 03:22:22 PM
Heads-up:

Since my last post I cleaned the following topics:

[ANN] Emirex Official - The Infrastructure for the New Digital Economy (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5179932.0)
Cocos-BCX has old ANN thread  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5139871.0)where they massively used bumping services for months

From Emirex I reported 2094 posts and it was reduced from 115 pages to 11. From Cocos I reported 2062 posts and it was reduced from 103 pages to 23 (I have a few more reports unhandled yet so it will shorten even more).

I think I'll perform a double check on it though, to ensure I reported everything that deserves to be reported.

After another check through all remaining 50 pages of ModulTrade topic I reported 25 more posts.



Just when I thought I finished cleaning all topics from this thread I just saw Rikafip's new post!

Just identified new group of ANN threads that hired bumping service [...]

🚀 [ANN] PadLock | Decentralized Communications And Security Solutions 🚀 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5383154.msg59097483#msg59097483)
Cryptoprosol - The Best Solution To Any Issues You Have Concerning Cryptocurreny (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5376198.msg58994649#msg58994649)
[ANN] Gentlemen's Baby Club [GBC] NFT CLUB #ETH #blockchain (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5383107.msg59080349#msg59080349)
[ANN] DECENT - Decentralizing Content Distribution (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1162392.0)
🚀 [ANN] Stabila Public Chain (STB) | Decentralize the financial system. 🚀 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5379020.0)
{ANN} Income Finance 20% Reflection rewards paid in BUSD! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5383269.0)

5 topics were almost clean (I had only 5 posts to report), the only one remaining being the one of 800 pages (OMG!). I will take a look through all its pages and I hope in one week or so to finish cleaning it as well. Wish me luck :) However, I'll do it after going once more through all topics posted here, as I stated before I intend to do once I finish with all of them.

All in all, I reported 7784 posts from all these topics! (I mean together with all reports from Modul topic as well)



There's a bunch of threads that are currently active, and have been for a few years, but somehow managed to avoid being cleaned up.

If you know their names, drop them here and they'll be taken care of :)


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on February 09, 2022, 01:13:56 PM
So, while checking if spammers reappeared on one of the already identified threads, I stumbled upon a new group of accounts that are doing the same in another thread, [ANN] My Crypto City (MYCTY) Mobile game using Solana infrastructure (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5380149.0). In last month or so, they managed to churn out 23 pages of the one-liner crap.

Accounts "working" there can be divided in two groups: those that are made specifically to spam MCTY thread, and other group that did the same thing in [ANN][GOPX ] The GOPX Token is the FIRST Patent Pending Cryptocurrency! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5351450.0), but that thread is inactive for some time now. Those two are obviously connected as OP of MCTY (BulkWaks1 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2611768)) was very active in GOPX and vice versa, OP of GOPX  (HBUS (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2193104) is very active in MCTY thread.

@Welsh here is the list of approximately 100 sock puppet accounts that are either exclusively working in MCTY thread, or worked in GOPX before starting in MCTY that IMHO deserve to be nuked/banned. For those wondering, those numbers after the name are amount of posts written in MCTY thread.

gotrosen [7] (https://bitcointalk.org/?action=profile;u=3439555)
sinogrape [7] (https://bitcointalk.org/?action=profile;u=3436987)
oppatoad [6] (https://bitcointalk.org/?action=profile;u=3433509)
FedukWj [5] (https://bitcointalk.org/?action=profile;u=2614612)
GeeS [5] (https://bitcointalk.org/?action=profile;u=3358515)
Kyt5bat [5] (https://bitcointalk.org/?action=profile;u=3434379)
linoclef [5] (https://bitcointalk.org/?action=profile;u=3436996)
AmaliaGF [4] (https://bitcointalk.org/?action=profile;u=3358302)
Loiusm [4] (https://bitcointalk.org/?action=profile;u=3358368)
Lurecs [4] (https://bitcointalk.org/?action=profile;u=3358514)
Manuelis [4] (https://bitcointalk.org/?action=profile;u=3358560)
anteuglove [4] (https://bitcointalk.org/?action=profile;u=3440606)
mrenis [4] (https://bitcointalk.org/?action=profile;u=3442847)
nepthnriver [4] (https://bitcointalk.org/?action=profile;u=3438884)
ventoris37 [4] (https://bitcointalk.org/?action=profile;u=3442812)
Armstronds1 [3] (https://bitcointalk.org/?action=profile;u=2609163)
DemDasa34 [3] (https://bitcointalk.org/?action=profile;u=2611776)
Doppelganger777 [3] (https://bitcointalk.org/?action=profile;u=2720201)
ELmortFar [3] (https://bitcointalk.org/?action=profile;u=3442844)
Freesun [3] (https://bitcointalk.org/?action=profile;u=3434377)
Huid23 [3] (https://bitcointalk.org/?action=profile;u=3358358)
HummW1 [3] (https://bitcointalk.org/?action=profile;u=3358573)
ReyWestf [3] (https://bitcointalk.org/?action=profile;u=2614607)
TeeShet [3] (https://bitcointalk.org/?action=profile;u=3358307)
WizziSax [3] (https://bitcointalk.org/?action=profile;u=3358569)
ZanBenGuru [3] (https://bitcointalk.org/?action=profile;u=3439421)
erkminetag [3] (https://bitcointalk.org/?action=profile;u=3436315)
jontantpie [3] (https://bitcointalk.org/?action=profile;u=3440610)
lertmneo [3] (https://bitcointalk.org/?action=profile;u=3439393)
leximari [3] (https://bitcointalk.org/?action=profile;u=2730090)
lochew [3] (https://bitcointalk.org/?action=profile;u=2730088)
rambVar [3] (https://bitcointalk.org/?action=profile;u=3442852)
ronetteplsk [3] (https://bitcointalk.org/?action=profile;u=2720163)
Akm4gclock22 [2] (https://bitcointalk.org/?action=profile;u=3442001)
AliHas [2] (https://bitcointalk.org/?action=profile;u=2614763)
AvenWe [2] (https://bitcointalk.org/?action=profile;u=2614767)
Berryvery394 [2] (https://bitcointalk.org/?action=profile;u=2609207)
Bestcryptotoo [2] (https://bitcointalk.org/?action=profile;u=3358304)
Chicagophan22 [2] (https://bitcointalk.org/?action=profile;u=3358216)
Cryptohero 89 [2] (https://bitcointalk.org/?action=profile;u=3433307)
Cyujx [2] (https://bitcointalk.org/?action=profile;u=2614136)
DamaT [2] (https://bitcointalk.org/?action=profile;u=3358504)
Fildfor [2] (https://bitcointalk.org/?action=profile;u=3358548)
Gyli2 [2] (https://bitcointalk.org/?action=profile;u=3358577)
HayatT [2] (https://bitcointalk.org/?action=profile;u=3358506)
IVYICO [2] (https://bitcointalk.org/?action=profile;u=2218838)
IninnA [2] (https://bitcointalk.org/?action=profile;u=3358576)
Jane Catler [2] (https://bitcointalk.org/?action=profile;u=3435831)
JorohMo [2] (https://bitcointalk.org/?action=profile;u=2614594)
Jremy1 [2] (https://bitcointalk.org/?action=profile;u=3358208)
Karheart [2] (https://bitcointalk.org/?action=profile;u=3358552)
KrahU [2] (https://bitcointalk.org/?action=profile;u=2611806)
Maxtrench [2] (https://bitcointalk.org/?action=profile;u=3358558)
Noth7mone [2] (https://bitcointalk.org/?action=profile;u=3373471)
ReviranXR [2] (https://bitcointalk.org/?action=profile;u=3442846)
Rezolusion99 [2] (https://bitcointalk.org/?action=profile;u=3433297)
RonaldSadr [2] (https://bitcointalk.org/?action=profile;u=2611771)
Ruslana1999 [2] (https://bitcointalk.org/?action=profile;u=3358188)
SenSeQ15 [2] (https://bitcointalk.org/?action=profile;u=2614783)
Sloujoke [2] (https://bitcointalk.org/?action=profile;u=3358554)
TreeesW [2] (https://bitcointalk.org/?action=profile;u=3358328)
TyelorWer [2] (https://bitcointalk.org/?action=profile;u=3358511)
VeraWad [2] (https://bitcointalk.org/?action=profile;u=2611790)
WestKy13 [2] (https://bitcointalk.org/?action=profile;u=2614777)
XxxradD [2] (https://bitcointalk.org/?action=profile;u=2614609)
YTTTDIM [2] (https://bitcointalk.org/?action=profile;u=3358532)
Yioper [2] (https://bitcointalk.org/?action=profile;u=3358367)
Ytreeth [2] (https://bitcointalk.org/?action=profile;u=3358373)
Ytresa [2] (https://bitcointalk.org/?action=profile;u=3358375)
ailmplum [2] (https://bitcointalk.org/?action=profile;u=3440616)
dodryhalo [2] (https://bitcointalk.org/?action=profile;u=3436844)
frytvirga [2] (https://bitcointalk.org/?action=profile;u=3436845)
jinbi-official [2] (https://bitcointalk.org/?action=profile;u=2223835)
junkproharry [2] (https://bitcointalk.org/?action=profile;u=3358213)
mandlyrt [2] (https://bitcointalk.org/?action=profile;u=2730093)
mayoflute [2] (https://bitcointalk.org/?action=profile;u=3436843)
minartictag [2] (https://bitcointalk.org/?action=profile;u=3436322)
monlgolf [2] (https://bitcointalk.org/?action=profile;u=3444682)
novarice [2] (https://bitcointalk.org/?action=profile;u=3433506)
r_victory [2] (https://bitcointalk.org/?action=profile;u=1021018)
reshards [2] (https://bitcointalk.org/?action=profile;u=2356210)
satfrattg [2] (https://bitcointalk.org/?action=profile;u=3436990)
tongta9 [2] (https://bitcointalk.org/?action=profile;u=2730091)
Awi345 [1] (https://bitcointalk.org/?action=profile;u=2614143)
AzazaF [1] (https://bitcointalk.org/?action=profile;u=2614601)
Bon963 [1] (https://bitcointalk.org/?action=profile;u=2369971)
Bustykins [1] (https://bitcointalk.org/?action=profile;u=3358570)
CelinD [1] (https://bitcointalk.org/?action=profile;u=2614769)
Coolman258 [1] (https://bitcointalk.org/?action=profile;u=2376928)
Dandelegle [1] (https://bitcointalk.org/?action=profile;u=3373467)
Dora1245 [1] (https://bitcointalk.org/?action=profile;u=2720780)
DumnaE [1] (https://bitcointalk.org/?action=profile;u=2611792)
DypeA [1] (https://bitcointalk.org/?action=profile;u=2614758)
EXA LAB [1] (https://bitcointalk.org/?action=profile;u=2315261)
ErtyW [1] (https://bitcointalk.org/?action=profile;u=2613823)
Fornik [1] (https://bitcointalk.org/?action=profile;u=3358534)


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: GazetaBitcoin on February 09, 2022, 02:36:29 PM
Heads-up:

Since my last post I started to make a double check over all topics listed here. During the double check I reported 642 more posts from the topics I previously cleaned.

However, I had a huge surprise at the end, as I thought that only the 800 pages topic still needs cleaning. However, I was wrong. I realized that 14 more topics need cleaning and I never touched them. I skipped 1 of them, somehow, while browsing through this topic post by post. This was Bitwings topic (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5133411.0).

At the end of double checking post by post of all posts made inside Rikafip's topic I finally arrived at OP and post #2. And there I realized there are 13 more topics which I did not touch, as they were not listed by hyperlinks within the thread... I realized that when I was looking for ANN threads listed here, I did not actually read each post thoroughly, but mostly I looked for threads with hyperlinks (which I clicked on to open then in new tabs and thus I knew I had to clean those topics). But I did not see those which were written just in plain text...

So these are the topics which I still have to clean at this moment (all being mentioned only by plain text within the topic and I noticed them all only after I arrived at OP and post #2):

Project nameAnnouncement  threadStatus
1. SwapZilla[ANN]SwapZilla-Unique infrastructure solution that revolutionizes crypto trading (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5191486.0)Active
3. Coinsbit.io An <COINSBIT.IO> Innovative Trading Cryptosystem  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5185065.0)Active
4. JolteeJoltee - Drive electric, behave well and pay less (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5208614.540)Active
5. MyTVChain⚽ [ANN] ⚽ MyTVchain - Live sports, powered by blockchain ⚽ (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5210814.0)Active
6. Amanpuri🔥🔥[ANN][ICO]AMANPURI – Ultimate exchange – PRIVATE SALE🔥🔥 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5116010.0)Active
7. MarketPeak✅ [ANN] MarketPeak: Rewarding Gateway for FinTech Projects & Tokenized Assets 🔥  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5234245.0)Active
8. ImpulsX[ANN][IPX] ImpulsX Trade Cryptocurrencies with ImpulsX Global Order Book (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5235151.0)Active
9. Romad[ANN][ICO] ⭐️⭐️⭐️ROMAD - NEXT GENERATION ANTI-VIRUS! WORKING PRODUCT!⭐️⭐️⭐️ (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3363802.0)Active
10. Weemat.io[ANN] Weemat.io - The weeEcosystem goes blockchain (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5219707.0)Active
11. SUR★ SUR ★ Token As A Pledge for Suretly (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1879035.0)Active
12. SUR (Russian) ★ SUR ★ тoкeн-зaлoг для Suretly (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1879494.0)Active
13. EDC Blockchain [ANN] EDC Blockchain - global platform with its own cryptocurrency (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5135187.0)Active
14. IndexChain[ANN] [IndexChain-IDX] Safe+Private+Hybrid POW/ POS/ MN ♔♕  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5235506.0)Active
15. Relictum Pro[ANN] Relictum Pro | Blockchain 5.0 of the latest generation (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5221631.0)Active
31. Largo Coin[ANN] Largo Coin |PoS|Limited Supply|B2C|C2C| (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5200762.0)Active
32. Covir[ANN] Covid-19 : Covir.io tokenize(CVR) Biosafety licenses with Tezos Blockchain (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5243195.0)Active
40. Bitwings[ANN][PRIVATE-SALE][IEO] BITWINGS: OFFICIAL CRYPTOCURRENCY OF WINGS MOBILE (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5133411.0)Active

And, of course, the 800 pages topic:

[ANN] DECENT - Decentralizing Content Distribution (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1162392.0)

For  ★ SUR ★ тoкeн-зaлoг для Suretly (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1879494.0) I'd ask again for Ratimov's help, if possible.



Excepting these, during my double check over the topics I noticed 2 topics where the spam is still active and 12 where the topics and OP are still active (and in this case there is still a possibility of having a reactivated spam). We should keep these topics under attention.

{ANN} Income Finance 20% Reflection rewards paid in BUSD! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5383269.0) - spam active
[ANN] Intelly Tech - Enhancing property development and real estate (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5379563.0) - spam active

🚀 [ANN] Stabila Public Chain (STB) | Decentralize the financial system. 🚀 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5379020.20) - topic active
[ANN] Gentlemen's Baby Club [GBC] NFT CLUB #ETH #blockchain (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5383107.0) - topic active
[ANN] Minereum - 🔥 🚀 Minereum World Metaverse Land Pre-Sale LIVE! 🚀 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4495159.0) - topic active
[MASS] Decentralized HARD DRIVE mining cryptocurrency | PoC | Low Energy cost (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5230593.0) - topic active

[ANN] Work Quest - Global End to End Jobs Marketplace Powered on Smart Contract (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5331927.0) - OP active
✅ Paradice.in | 🍀 Provably Fair 🎲 | Rain☔| 30 sec Faucet | 1% House Edge 💰| (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5206291.0) - OP active
[CRP]Self-funded and Released Utopia P2P ecosystem and Crypton privacy coin (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5286191.0) - OP active
🔥[ANN]SIMBA Storage-Stablecoin baked by Bitcoin Satoshi (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5260057.0) - OP active
🚀 WINZ.IO 🚀 $150,000 WINTER BONANZA QUEST ❄️ UP TO 300 FREE SPINS BONUS 🎁 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5239387.0) - OP active
TimeCoinProtocol - decentralized sharing economy protocol (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5260205.0) - OP active
[ANN] V SYSTEMS - Blockchain Database and App Platform by Sunny King [SPoS/Mint] (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5095853.0) - OP active
[ANN] PIVX LITE\POS v3.0\PIVX Masternodes\TAILS USB TOR Wallet\Mobile Wallets (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5222955.0) - OP active



@Welsh: I have 53 reports marked as good from Cocos topic, reports which were made on 2-4 Feb, which are still not deleted. Do you have any idea why? Here are a few examples: 1 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5139871.msg51858320#msg51858320), 2 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5139871.msg51857252#msg51857252), 3 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5139871.msg51847984#msg51847984), 4 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5139871.msg51737926#msg51737926), 5 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5139871.msg51625280#msg51625280). I am asking because I wanted to make a double check also on this thread, but I could not, as I still have these posts which are flagged as good, but not deleted, and I would not want to risk to double report them.



I stumbled upon a new group of accounts that are doing the same in another thread, [ANN] My Crypto City (MYCTY) Mobile game using Solana infrastructure (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5380149.0) [...]

other group that did the same thing in [ANN][GOPX ] The GOPX Token is the FIRST Patent Pending Cryptocurrency! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5351450.0)

I'll take care of both threads ASAP.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rizzrack on February 09, 2022, 03:35:44 PM
I have 53 reports marked as good from Cocos topic, reports which were made on 2-4 Feb, which are still not deleted. Do you have any idea why?
... and I would not want to risk to double report them.

If the reports are marked as Good they are out of the queue so if you report them again they will not be marked as bad . Guess someone just missclicked or something...


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on February 09, 2022, 10:05:07 PM
However, I had a huge surprise at the end, as I thought that only the 800 pages topic still needs cleaning. However, I was wrong. I realized that 14 more topics need cleaning and I never touched them. I skipped 1 of them, somehow, while browsing through this topic post by post. This was Bitwings topic (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5133411.0).
Ah yeah Bitwings, one of the crazier scams I busted. They claimed that they developed mobile phone that can mine 2 ETH per month lol but what that really was is a ponzi scheme that kept delaying phone delivery. They even had very popular bounty campaign here on the forum.

Craziest part is that they were an actual mobile phone provider in Spain that turned to scamming people. They weren't just some low level scam with anon team; they even went to some kind of mobile phone show in Barcelona and presented to public their magic smartphone. AFAIK they are still operating in South America, scamming people there.



I stumbled upon a new group of accounts that are doing the same in another thread, [ANN] My Crypto City (MYCTY) Mobile game using Solana infrastructure (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5380149.0) [...]

other group that did the same thing in [ANN][GOPX ] The GOPX Token is the FIRST Patent Pending Cryptocurrency! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5351450.0)

I'll take care of both threads ASAP.
What I hoped for is that someone (maybe Welsh since he is keeping an eye on this thread) can just nuke bunch of those accounts and that will automatically delete shit load of posts. Seems like an elegant solution to me, if doable. Or maybe even nuking whole threads, as for example 99.99% posts ( I went through whole thread and saw maybe couple posts that weren't paid) in MYCTY thread is just paid spam+ answers from their two copper accounts.



If the reports are marked as Good they are out of the queue so if you report them again they will not be marked as bad . Guess someone just missclicked or something...
Yeah that happens from time to time and that's exactly what I do, I just report the posts again but its a good thing to hear how that exactly works. Cheers!


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: GazetaBitcoin on February 11, 2022, 06:24:16 PM
Heads-up:

Since my last post I cleaned the following topics:

[ANN] My Crypto City (MYCTY) Mobile game using Solana infrastructure (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5380149.0) [...]
[ANN][GOPX ] The GOPX Token is the FIRST Patent Pending Cryptocurrency! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5351450.0)

Joltee - Drive electric, behave well and pay less (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5208614.540)
✅ [ANN] MarketPeak: Rewarding Gateway for FinTech Projects & Tokenized Assets 🔥  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5234245.0)[ANN][IPX] ImpulsX Trade Cryptocurrencies with ImpulsX Global Order Book (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5235151.0)
[ANN] [IndexChain-IDX] Safe+Private+Hybrid POW/ POS/ MN ♔♕  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5235506.0)
[ANN] Covid-19 : Covir.io tokenize(CVR) Biosafety licenses with Tezos Blockchain (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5243195.0)

All in all, I reported 1215 posts from these topics!



Thank you for reminding. Viewed this thread. Indeed, there is a lot of spam and shitposts from bots. It turned out 243 reports and -243 shitposts from this topic.

Thanks for taking care of it :)

It could have been more, but in the Russian locale it is cannot to report posts before January 1, 2018

Lol? Really? I did not know that. Why does it work like this? Did anybody try to address a question about this functionality? Maybe it's a bug...



What I hoped for is that someone (maybe Welsh since he is keeping an eye on this thread) can just nuke bunch of those accounts and that will automatically delete shit load of posts. Seems like an elegant solution to me, if doable

Sadly, it does work like that only in few cases... But it's okay, I cleand both topics and now I'll just keep an eye on the one which still active.

If the reports are marked as Good they are out of the queue so if you report them again they will not be marked as bad . Guess someone just missclicked or something...
Yeah that happens from time to time and that's exactly what I do, I just report the posts again but its a good thing to hear how that exactly works.

At first I intended to wait 30 days, until the reports would disappear from the queue (for both me and mods), as I believed that reporting again such posts may lead to get Bad result for this kind of reports. Now, that I know how it works, I reported again all those posts and they were cleaned this time.



The following topics remain to be cleaned (I am mentioning them here just to make sure I will not lose any of them):

[ANN]SwapZilla-Unique infrastructure solution that revolutionizes crypto trading (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5191486.0)
 An <COINSBIT.IO> Innovative Trading Cryptosystem  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5185065.0)
⚽ [ANN] ⚽ MyTVchain - Live sports, powered by blockchain ⚽ (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5210814.0)
🔥🔥[ANN][ICO]AMANPURI – Ultimate exchange – PRIVATE SALE🔥🔥 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5116010.0)
[ANN][ICO] ⭐️⭐️⭐️ROMAD - NEXT GENERATION ANTI-VIRUS! WORKING PRODUCT!⭐️⭐️⭐️ (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3363802.0)
[ANN] Weemat.io - The weeEcosystem goes blockchain (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5219707.0)
★ SUR ★ Token As A Pledge for Suretly (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1879035.0)
 [ANN] EDC Blockchain - global platform with its own cryptocurrency (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5135187.0)
[ANN] Relictum Pro | Blockchain 5.0 of the latest generation (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5221631.0)
[ANN][PRIVATE-SALE][IEO] BITWINGS: OFFICIAL CRYPTOCURRENCY OF WINGS MOBILE (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5133411.0)

[ANN] DECENT - Decentralizing Content Distribution (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1162392.0)

Most of these topics are huge, and probably they'll require a lot of time for cleaning, as 1 has 800+ pages, one has 400+ pages, 3 have 100+ pages, 3 have 50+ pages and 3 have 29-44 pages. I hope to finish cleaning them too until end of February.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Welsh on February 13, 2022, 04:51:30 PM
Lol? Really? I did not know that. Why does it work like this? Did anybody try to address a question about this functionality? Maybe it's a bug...
Depends on the moderator, as some might not see the benefit of removing older posts which are unlikely to be seen. Although, I can definitely see the logic in that, I usually just handle them anyway, if it's spam, it's spam, and probably needs to be removed.

Plus, a lot of threads have been active for years, especially those in the altcoin section, so those threads are likely viewed by hundreds or thousands of people each week, so it makes sense to clean it up.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: GazetaBitcoin on February 24, 2022, 07:42:44 AM
Heads-up:

After a long struggle, since my last post I cleaned the following topic:

[ANN][ICO] ⭐️⭐️⭐️ROMAD - NEXT GENERATION ANTI-VIRUS! WORKING PRODUCT!⭐️⭐️⭐️ (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3363802.0)

It was very difficult, as ROMAD topic had no less than 436 pages of spam...

All in all, I reported XXX posts from this topic! To be honest, this time I can not say precisely how many posts I reported. This is because I just learned a new thing, that reports list shows only 4991 issues, no matter if you made more reports within last 30 days. I was not aware of that and I thought to share this information with you as well. As a consequence, you can not see anymore how many reports you made in the past 30 days, if you reported more than 4991 posts. I am not sure if this is a bug or design of the forum, but if this is the design then the chosen number for the maximum limit (4991) is a bit... weird to say so :)

However, as the topic initially had 436 pages and now it has only 15, so I assume I reported about 8400 posts from this topic. Maybe 500-1000 less though as I noticed that during these days mods deleted some posts ahead of me reporting them, but I don't know precisely the number of these posts deleted by mods. However, I noticed that after cleaning this topic, my good reports increased with about 25% from all good reports I made so far in my history. It was a really long thread and full of spam.



Now I'm working on

An <COINSBIT.IO> Innovative Trading Cryptosystem  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5185065.0)

and I hope to finish cleaning it soon.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: GazetaBitcoin on February 24, 2022, 08:23:53 AM
The list of reports in your history is now limited to 5000 reports. theymos introduced this limit a few days ago

Oh I see now. I was not aware of your topic; I noticed that limitation by myself by pure chance. I was curious how many reports I made of ROMAD topic after finishing cleaning it and I pressed Ctrl+F in the Reports History page and there I wrote "ROMAD". At the bottom of my Firefox page I saw 4991.

So this is a weird number, as I said before, because the number is not 5000. However, I realized afterwards that I had 9 other reports made from other topics. Now I counted them again and the total number of displayed reports is 5000 indeed. However, I saw in that topic of yours that theymos did not make any official statement about that... it was a silent move to say so :) Maybe he'll come back with an explanation... or maybe he is working something on reports area.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: GazetaBitcoin on February 24, 2022, 09:49:32 AM
He explained this to me in PM correspondence

Oh, I understand now.

but did not do it in a public thread

I think he did not do it publicly, because this restriction is not so significant and not so widespread.

This may be a cause, indeed. However, thinking with hope in mind, who knows? Maybe this is just a part of a more complex change regarding the reports. Maybe he is also finally working on those special badges and he did not want to make a public announcement before having the entire change realized...? I still hope that he will create these badges :)

The number of lines in the report history does not affect anything.

This is absolutely correct.

How many reporters on the forum now reach that limit on the forum in the last 30 days? 3? 4? I don't think there are very many.

This is a sad reality, as far as I see. I'm not saying that more users should trespass the monthly limit, as this would be very difficult. But, at least, it would be much better for the forum if more would involve in cleaning it. With only a few active volunteers in Cleaning Services it's hard to keep the pace with Vitor Services.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: GazetaBitcoin on February 24, 2022, 04:47:31 PM
This is an update for my previous post, from Feb 9th (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5236143.msg59201318#msg59201318), regarding the monitoring of most recent topics which needed cleaning services. I cleaned the ones where spam was still active (or reactivated). Situation is looking like this:

{ANN} Income Finance 20% Reflection rewards paid in BUSD! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5383269.0) - spam active
🚀 [ANN] Stabila Public Chain (STB) | Decentralize the financial system. 🚀 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5379020.20) - topic active spam active
[ANN] Work Quest - Global End to End Jobs Marketplace Powered on Smart Contract (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5331927.0) - OP active spam active
[ANN] My Crypto City (MYCTY) Mobile game using Solana infrastructure (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5380149.0) spam active
[ANN] DECENT - Decentralizing Content Distribution (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1162392.0) spam active

[ANN] Gentlemen's Baby Club [GBC] NFT CLUB #ETH #blockchain (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5383107.0) - topic active last spam was on Feb 8th

✅ Paradice.in | 🍀 Provably Fair 🎲 | Rain☔| 30 sec Faucet | 1% House Edge 💰| (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5206291.0) - OP active topic active
🚀 WINZ.IO 🚀 $150,000 WINTER BONANZA QUEST ❄️ UP TO 300 FREE SPINS BONUS 🎁 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5239387.0) - OP active topic active

[CRP]Self-funded and Released Utopia P2P ecosystem and Crypton privacy coin (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5286191.0) - OP active once per month
🔥[ANN]SIMBA Storage-Stablecoin baked by Bitcoin Satoshi (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5260057.0) - OP active rarely
TimeCoinProtocol - decentralized sharing economy protocol (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5260205.0) - OP active rarely
[ANN] V SYSTEMS - Blockchain Database and App Platform by Sunny King [SPoS/Mint] (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5095853.0) - OP active rarely

[ANN] PIVX LITE\POS v3.0\PIVX Masternodes\TAILS USB TOR Wallet\Mobile Wallets (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5222955.0) - OP active topic inactive since Jan 10th
Cryptoprosol - The Best Solution To Any Issues You Have Concerning Cryptocurreny (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5376198.msg58994649#msg58994649) topic inactive since Jan 16th
[ANN] Minereum - 🔥 🚀 Minereum World Metaverse Land Pre-Sale LIVE! 🚀 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4495159.0) - topic active topic inactive since Jan 23rd
🚀 [ANN] PadLock | Decentralized Communications And Security Solutions 🚀 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5383154.msg59097483#msg59097483) topic inactive since Jan 29th
[ANN] Intelly Tech - Enhancing property development and real estate (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5379563.0) - spam active - topic inactive since Feb 9th
[MASS] Decentralized HARD DRIVE mining cryptocurrency | PoC | Low Energy cost (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5230593.0) - topic active topic inactive since Feb 13th


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Welsh on February 24, 2022, 11:47:20 PM
It's not perfect by any means, but mprep did a pretty good job of creating some unofficial badges: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5383802.msg59125672#msg59125672

@Welsh: I have 53 reports marked as good from Cocos topic, reports which were made on 2-4 Feb, which are still not deleted. Do you have any idea why? Here are a few examples: 1 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5139871.msg51858320#msg51858320), 2 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5139871.msg51857252#msg51857252), 3 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5139871.msg51847984#msg51847984), 4 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5139871.msg51737926#msg51737926), 5 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5139871.msg51625280#msg51625280). I am asking because I wanted to make a double check also on this thread, but I could not, as I still have these posts which are flagged as good, but not deleted, and I would not want to risk to double report them.
Only now just seeing this; there could be numreous reasons, although I for one don't always look at reports in chronological order i.e in the order that the reports were reported. Sometimes some reports might be a little more complex which requires additional checks, or a moderator might not be confident in deleting it, so leave it for someone else which can sometimes result in a delay. Sometimes, its just left as unhandled, although its very likely been seen. There's so many reasons as to why some reports might be delayed in being handled or not get handled at all.

Although, I think I can confidently say that most reports are seen probably by multiple moderators throughout the day. Especially, if they've been in the queue for a while. It does seem like they were eventually handled though.



Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Murat on March 01, 2022, 10:17:48 AM
Flag Network > https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5387145.0


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: GazetaBitcoin on March 01, 2022, 12:49:18 PM
Heads-up:

Since my last post I cleaned the following topics:

An <COINSBIT.IO> Innovative Trading Cryptosystem  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5185065.0)
[ANN] Weemat.io - The weeEcosystem goes blockchain (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5219707.0)
★ SUR ★ Token As A Pledge for Suretly (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1879035.0)
Flag Network > https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5387145.0

For Flag Network topic I reported all the spam inside it; now let's wait for the mods to handle the reports.

It seems someone already took care of Weemat.io topic, as it had before 30+ pages, but when I started to take care of it it showed only 9 pages left. However, I still found a few posts to report here as well.
COINSBIT.IO topic was reduced from 178 pages to 48.
SUR topic was reduced from 164 pages to 104.

All in all, I reported 3639 posts from these topics!



The following topics remain to be cleaned (I am mentioning them here just to make sure I will not lose any of them):

[ANN]SwapZilla-Unique infrastructure solution that revolutionizes crypto trading (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5191486.0)
⚽ [ANN] ⚽ MyTVchain - Live sports, powered by blockchain ⚽ (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5210814.0)
🔥🔥[ANN][ICO]AMANPURI – Ultimate exchange – PRIVATE SALE🔥🔥 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5116010.0)
 [ANN] EDC Blockchain - global platform with its own cryptocurrency (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5135187.0)
[ANN] Relictum Pro | Blockchain 5.0 of the latest generation (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5221631.0)
[ANN][PRIVATE-SALE][IEO] BITWINGS: OFFICIAL CRYPTOCURRENCY OF WINGS MOBILE (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5133411.0)

[ANN] DECENT - Decentralizing Content Distribution (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1162392.0)

The number is slowly reducing, as it can be seen, but it's still a lot of work for the remaining ones.



Sometimes some reports might be a little more complex which requires additional checks, or a moderator might not be confident in deleting it, so leave it for someone else which can sometimes result in a delay. Sometimes, its just left as unhandled, although its very likely been seen. There's so many reasons as to why some reports might be delayed in being handled or not get handled at all.

Um... I think you misread my question :) I was saying that I had some reports from that topic which were already flagged as Good but they were not deleted yet and I was wondering why this happens. So the reports were not unhandled, but already handled as Good. However, I reported those posts once more and they are deleted now :) I guess the mod who handled them flagged them as Good but forgot to also delete them...? Maybe this is possible when working with thousands of reports.



While performing the cleaning process, I found that EDC topic, one of the oldest ones mentioned here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5236143.msg54125365#msg54125365), has its OP still active. I updated the list of active topics / OPs / spam:

Flag Network (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5387145.0) - spam active
{ANN} Income Finance 20% Reflection rewards paid in BUSD! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5383269.0) - spam active
🚀 [ANN] Stabila Public Chain (STB) | Decentralize the financial system. 🚀 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5379020.20) - topic active spam active
[ANN] Work Quest - Global End to End Jobs Marketplace Powered on Smart Contract (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5331927.0) - OP active spam active
[ANN] My Crypto City (MYCTY) Mobile game using Solana infrastructure (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5380149.0) spam active
[ANN] DECENT - Decentralizing Content Distribution (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1162392.0) spam active

[ANN] Gentlemen's Baby Club [GBC] NFT CLUB #ETH #blockchain (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5383107.0) - topic active last spam was on Feb 8th

✅ Paradice.in | 🍀 Provably Fair 🎲 | Rain☔| 30 sec Faucet | 1% House Edge 💰| (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5206291.0) - OP active topic active
🚀 WINZ.IO 🚀 $150,000 WINTER BONANZA QUEST ❄️ UP TO 300 FREE SPINS BONUS 🎁 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5239387.0) - OP active topic active

 [ANN] EDC Blockchain - global platform with its own cryptocurrency (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5135187.0) - OP active a few times per week
[CRP]Self-funded and Released Utopia P2P ecosystem and Crypton privacy coin (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5286191.0) - OP active once per month
🔥[ANN]SIMBA Storage-Stablecoin baked by Bitcoin Satoshi (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5260057.0) - OP active rarely
TimeCoinProtocol - decentralized sharing economy protocol (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5260205.0) - OP active rarely
[ANN] V SYSTEMS - Blockchain Database and App Platform by Sunny King [SPoS/Mint] (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5095853.0) - OP active rarely

[ANN] PIVX LITE\POS v3.0\PIVX Masternodes\TAILS USB TOR Wallet\Mobile Wallets (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5222955.0) - OP active topic inactive since Jan 10th
Cryptoprosol - The Best Solution To Any Issues You Have Concerning Cryptocurreny (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5376198.msg58994649#msg58994649) topic inactive since Jan 16th
[ANN] Minereum - 🔥 🚀 Minereum World Metaverse Land Pre-Sale LIVE! 🚀 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4495159.0) - topic active topic inactive since Jan 23rd
🚀 [ANN] PadLock | Decentralized Communications And Security Solutions 🚀 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5383154.msg59097483#msg59097483) topic inactive since Jan 29th
[ANN] Intelly Tech - Enhancing property development and real estate (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5379563.0) - spam active - topic inactive since Feb 9th
[MASS] Decentralized HARD DRIVE mining cryptocurrency | PoC | Low Energy cost (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5230593.0) - topic active topic inactive since Feb 13th


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Welsh on March 01, 2022, 03:33:58 PM
Um... I think you misread my question :) I was saying that I had some reports from that topic which were already flagged as Good but they were not deleted yet and I was wondering why this happens. So the reports were not unhandled, but already handled as Good. However, I reported those posts once more and they are deleted now :) I guess the mod who handled them flagged them as Good but forgot to also delete them...? Maybe this is possible when working with thousands of reports.
Ah right, yeah it that case it can definitely happen from time to time. Depends on how the moderator's process, some might handle the reports before taking action or it might have just been a mistake. When we're talking hundreds to thousands of reports being handled, it's probably easily done. I've probably made the mistake myself, might have even been me this time, who knows. I know I've handled quite a fair share of your reports recently. Good news is, I should be a lot more active from now on. I alluded to it in another post, but it seems my life is starting to finally become less busy after having to step it up a little bit during the peaks of Covid. So, I'm hoping I'll be returning to not only handling reports, but patrolling about a little more too, and will put it on my schedule to clear some of these independently also. I'll probably focus on the ones which are more recently active though, as a priority.



Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: GazetaBitcoin on March 03, 2022, 01:52:24 PM
Heads-up:

Since my last post I cleaned the following topics:

[ANN] EDC Blockchain - global platform with its own cryptocurrency (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5135187.0)
[ANN]SwapZilla-Unique infrastructure solution that revolutionizes crypto trading (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5191486.0)

EDC topic was reduced from 158 pages to 36.
SwapZilla was reduced from 73 pages to zero :) After making 900 reports, mods decided to trash the entire topic. This topic had a unique approach of spam, which I never saw before. They hired 99% "new Newbies", meaning only users with 1-5 posts made, so practically the entire topic, which was absolutely full of spam literally had hundreds, if not thousands of users posting inside it. I tried to count them but it was too difficult and I stopped after counting 100 users within 10 pages or so.

All in all, I reported 3322 posts from these topics!



After reporting 57 posts from Flag Network (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5387145.0) topic, all made during the first day it was launched, mods locked it. Probably, the spam inside that topic was too aggressive. I saw Newbies spamming about it even in other topics.



Ah right, yeah it that case it can definitely happen from time to time. Depends on how the moderator's process, some might handle the reports before taking action or it might have just been a mistake. When we're talking hundreds to thousands of reports being handled, it's probably easily done. I've probably made the mistake myself

Yup, nothing to worry about. We're all humans, after all. Well, almost all :)

I'm hoping I'll be returning to not only handling reports, but patrolling about a little more too, and will put it on my schedule to clear some of these independently also.

Welcome back!



Now there are only 5 topics remaining to be cleaned:

⚽ [ANN] ⚽ MyTVchain - Live sports, powered by blockchain ⚽ (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5210814.0)
🔥🔥[ANN][ICO]AMANPURI – Ultimate exchange – PRIVATE SALE🔥🔥 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5116010.0)
[ANN] Relictum Pro | Blockchain 5.0 of the latest generation (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5221631.0)
[ANN][PRIVATE-SALE][IEO] BITWINGS: OFFICIAL CRYPTOCURRENCY OF WINGS MOBILE (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5133411.0)
[ANN] DECENT - Decentralizing Content Distribution (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1162392.0)


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on March 03, 2022, 10:38:05 PM
After reporting 57 posts from Flag Network (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5387145.0) topic, all made during the first day it was launched, mods locked it. Probably, the spam inside that topic was too aggressive. I saw Newbies spamming about it even in other topics.
Hm, are you sure that mods locked that thread? I mean, it would be great if they started locking threads that hired bumping service, but for me its more likely that OP simply decided to lock the thread as he was just hired to post the ANN.

And yeah, keep it up buddy!



I just stumbled upon an interesting way to bump the threads. By "interesting" I mean one of the stupidest ways I've seen so far. So, as you can see in the screenshot below, there are several ANN threads that look very similar with all those tacky icons, immediately drawing suspicion that it's the same person (or group of people) behind all those threads.


https://i.postimg.cc/x8KYRPWS/Screenshot-2022-03-04-at-00-26-04-Tokens-Altcoins.png



Like that is not enough, they decided to raise the suspicion further by being active in each other's thread, asking classic stupid shill questions. So, YachtX Coin acc goes into CLIME Finance, then CLIME Finance goes into GOGE, GOGE goes into Nexum etc. One happy little circlejerk and an incredibly stupid way to bum the threads.

 I kinda stopped tagging shillers as it's nothing but a whack-a-mole game but in this case I think I will make an exception as they are creators of the threads as well. If I get some free time on my hands might as well check those projects because I think that something might be found if i dig deep enough.


Thread list:
[ANN]✨✨✨ Nexum (NEXM) ✨✨✨ Unbanking Shipping  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5386953.0)
[ANN]✨✨✨ Predict Vision ✨✨✨ Decentralized A.I (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5387176.0)
[ANN]✨✨✨ Z1 FINANCIAL ✨✨✨ Investment Opportunity for Real Estate Investors  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5387127.0)
[ANN]✨✨✨ YachtX Coin ✨✨✨ The high-end exclusive yacht life currency (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5386855.0)
[ANN]✨✨✨ $GOGE ✨✨✨ DogeGaySon (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5384058.0)
[ANN]✨✨✨ CLIME Finance✨✨✨ The Climate Ecosystem (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5387868.0)


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: GazetaBitcoin on March 04, 2022, 08:21:07 AM
Hm, are you sure that mods locked that thread? I mean, it would be great if they started locking threads that hired bumping service, but for me its more likely that OP simply decided to lock the thread as he was just hired to post the ANN.

Um... this is what I thought... that mods got tired of that impressive spam and locked the thread. But you are right, OP could have done it too. Maybe Welsh will tell us exactly what happened...?

And yeah, keep it up buddy!

Thank you, I will! :)

[ANN]✨✨✨ Nexum (NEXM) ✨✨✨ Unbanking Shipping  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5386953.0)
[ANN]✨✨✨ Predict Vision ✨✨✨ Decentralized A.I (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5387176.0)
[ANN]✨✨✨ Z1 FINANCIAL ✨✨✨ Investment Opportunity for Real Estate Investors  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5387127.0)
[ANN]✨✨✨ YachtX Coin ✨✨✨ The high-end exclusive yacht life currency (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5386855.0)
[ANN]✨✨✨ $GOGE ✨✨✨ DogeGaySon (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5384058.0)
[ANN]✨✨✨ CLIME Finance✨✨✨ The Climate Ecosystem (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5387868.0)

I took a look over all these topics but I could find only 8 posts deserving to be reported (and, of course, I reported them :)). Perhaps someone else already reported others and they were already deleted? Anyway, I'll keep them under observation. Great finding, Rikafip!

I kinda stopped tagging shillers as it's nothing but a whack-a-mole game

Please, keep doing that! :) I bet you never thought about what I'll say now: my dear Rikafip, during my long campaigns of cleaning topics, many times I was unsure if a post deserves or not to be deleted. But in most of these cases I was helped in taking the decision of making the report by seeing a "-1" at the Trust score of the respective user (or a higher negative score). In many cases it was because you added a negative feedback explaining the respective one is a spammer. These feedbacks helped me a lot and, probably, help other reporters as well. So please, don't stop tagging these users. Your actions are very helpful, and probably way more helpful than you ever thought!



@Welsh, I have a problem, please help!

Yesterday, when SwapZilla topic was trashed, I had many (hundreds) of unhandled reports from that topic. As a consequence, when it was trashed, all those reports I already made appeared with strikethrough font in my reports history. I assumed that those reports will automatically flagged as Good, but this is not exactly what happened. I mean, immediately after the topic was trashed, a few dozen reports were flagged as Good but still, many remained as unhandled (although they were obviously deleted). During the evening a few more were flagged as Good and I had about 200 remaining as unhandled. I hoped that during the night the remaining ones will be also flagged as Good, but only 30 or so were flagged as Good.

Now I have 170 unhandled posts from that trashed topic and I am afraid they will not be handled in proper time and I will remain forever with them as unhandled. And I'm saying that because, as you know, report history shows now only last 5000 reports. So if I make more than 5000 reports before those unhandled reports being handled, they will not be seen by mods anymore and I'll remain with them unhandled forever. I already have a long queue of 1840 unhandled reports which will stick with me forever; I don't want that list to go even bigger... This is how it looks like:

https://i.ibb.co/Wsmbc5L/6kgTlh4.png

And, considering that I am usually reporting ~1000 posts everyday, this means that in 5 days mods will not see those unhandled reports anymore. In case you took care of that topic, are you so kind, please, to handle these reports? Or, in case you are not the mod which trashed SwapZilla topic, are you so kind, please, to tell your colleague which did it to handle these reports of mine? Thank you in advance.

Besides, as the topic is already trashed, I am afraid there are more chances for those already deleted reports to be forgotten as unhandled, compared with other unhandled ones, from topics which are not trashed. I don't know if things really are so, but this scares me.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: GazetaBitcoin on March 04, 2022, 09:15:55 AM
The limitation for mods was 30 days, which was also the limitation for users. hilariousandco told me that, in a post which I can't find anymore. So practically, when you, as a user, could not see your reports older than 30 days anymore, mods could not see them anymore as well (maybe just admins could see them, but I don't know about that; what's certain is that reports unhandled for more than 30 days remained forever as unhandled as mods could not see them anymore).

Knowing the behavior of the 30 days limitation I thought that same kind of limitation applies now also for the new rule -- the one showing only the last 5000 reports, no matter if they were made in less than 30 days. Now I don't know for sure if mods can still see the reports from 5000 above made within last 30 days, but I think there is a chance for them to not see them anymore as well, this is why I kindly asked Welsh to take a look.

Later edit: the information about unhandled reports disappearing from mods' side as well was provided by Welsh and confirmed by o_e_l_e_o. I found the respective post (n.b. highlights were made by me):

As far as I can remember (I haven't looked at that page in a long while) it only shows reports up to 30 days. I might be wrong on that exact number, but it doesn't show your entire history of reports.
30 days is correct. [...]

Reports which have disappeared from the reporting queue but are still unhandled will remain unhandled forever, and will always show up in your individual statistics. Even if the post in question gets deleted in the future, or even if you report the same post a second time and the second report is acted upon, the status of your original report (which is no longer visible to the mods) won't change and it will still show up as unhandled in your statistics.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on March 04, 2022, 09:51:31 AM

I took a look over all these topics but I could find only 8 posts deserving to be reported (and, of course, I reported them :)). Perhaps someone else already reported others and they were already deleted? Anyway, I'll keep them under observation. Great finding, Rikafip!
From what I could see they are taking more cautious approach and not spamming with bunch of newbie accounts, but still their tactic is pretty stupid as its even more suspicious to see another project's account being active in another thread and asking all those redundant question.

With that being said, they are promoting these shitcoin projects in other threads as well. Just take a look at the post below, Z1_FINANCIAL shilling NEXUM , with the help of Yacht_X_Coin, and if someone thinks that all this is just a coincidence, 3rd account involved in this is nikita2020 who is already tagged for being part of shilling group.



After a fall will be a rise. It is necessary just to wait.
In the long term, cryptocurrency continues to rise.
But a lot depends on how useful is a project.
For example, appear projects that offer benefits for the shipping industry like this https://twitter.com/CoinNexum/status/1492571253336588292

A lot depends on how useful is cryptocurrency. Now more and more people use cryptocurrency because they do not trust fiat.
In many countries the inflation now is very big. So I think that demand in cryptocurrency will continue to rise.

Cryptocurrency market continue to restore.
Now there are so many economical and political problems in the world that many people prefer to use cryptocurrencies.
Inflation in many countries is so big that people prefer to use cryptocurrency for investment purposes.


Please, keep doing that! :) I bet you never thought about what I'll say now: my dear Rikafip, during my long campaigns of cleaning topics, many times I was unsure if a post deserves or not to be deleted. But in most of these cases I was helped in taking the decision of making the report by seeing a "-1" at the Trust score of the respective user (or a higher negative score). In many cases it was because you added a negative feedback explaining the respective one is a spammer. These feedbacks helped me a lot and, probably, help other reporters as well. So please, don't stop tagging these users. Your actions are very helpful, and probably way more helpful than you ever thought!
Yeah, haven't though of that, that tagging shillers might help the others identifying spam posts as I never really did it that way. The main reason I stopped is because these "marketing agencies" (in most cases Vitor Services) just ditch those tagged accounts as start using the new ones so in the end i got frustrated and stopped with that. Imho, probably the best way to deal with them is to report them so they get nuked and all of their posts deleted in the process. With these six accounts I will definitely make an exception and tag them as they invested some money into these, buying Copper membership.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: holydarkness on March 04, 2022, 12:13:04 PM

I just stumbled upon an interesting way to bump the threads. By "interesting" I mean one of the stupidest ways I've seen so far. So, as you can see in the screenshot below, there are several ANN threads that look very similar with all those tacky icons, immediately drawing suspicion that it's the same person (or group of people) behind all those threads.


https://i.postimg.cc/x8KYRPWS/Screenshot-2022-03-04-at-00-26-04-Tokens-Altcoins.png



Like that is not enough, they decided to raise the suspicion further by being active in each other's thread, asking classic stupid shill questions. So, YachtX Coin acc goes into CLIME Finance, then CLIME Finance goes into GOGE, GOGE goes into Nexum etc. One happy little circlejerk and an incredibly stupid way to bum the threads.

 I kinda stopped tagging shillers as it's nothing but a whack-a-mole game but in this case I think I will make an exception as they are creators of the threads as well. If I get some free time on my hands might as well check those projects because I think that something might be found if i dig deep enough.


Thread list:
[ANN]✨✨✨ Nexum (NEXM) ✨✨✨ Unbanking Shipping  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5386953.0)
[ANN]✨✨✨ Predict Vision ✨✨✨ Decentralized A.I (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5387176.0)
[ANN]✨✨✨ Z1 FINANCIAL ✨✨✨ Investment Opportunity for Real Estate Investors  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5387127.0)
[ANN]✨✨✨ YachtX Coin ✨✨✨ The high-end exclusive yacht life currency (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5386855.0)
[ANN]✨✨✨ $GOGE ✨✨✨ DogeGaySon (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5384058.0)
[ANN]✨✨✨ CLIME Finance✨✨✨ The Climate Ecosystem (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5387868.0)

Ahh, how happy I am to learn that it wasn't just me that think they're a bit off. I've been curious and suspecting that they're part of a group, unfortunately I didn't have enough evidence to proof that they're indeed connected --other than the aforementioned same thread ann style and each of them commenting each other's thread.

I've been asking details about their project for a while and each of them, one by one, started to "didn't see" my questions

So far, what I can gather from them before they stopped replied my barrage of questions were:
Nexum - well... I am ashamed that I closed my topic with them as that field is rather unfamiliar for me.
Predict Vision - I didn't get into this project
Z1 Financial - Practicing a rather discouraging decision of the equivalent of nepotism by offerring 30% of the private sale token --sold at lower price than public token sale-- to their staff (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5387127.msg59388283#msg59388283)
YachtX - where do I start? Let's see... Ohh,  they encourage their customer to use their service to avoid taxes, or in their own words, tax benefits. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5386855.msg59406388#msg59406388)
Goge - failed to prove the charities they mentioned they did, also didn't want to divulge team in fear of "some of us were living in a non-LGBT-friendly zone" (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5384058.msg59345652#msg59345652)
clime finance - I didn't get into this project

With that said and my suspicion shown to be quite justified, i took a slightly deeper search and found these other threads with similar thread title style, similar post pattern [see quoted below], and within these thread are username with bumping services that's already tagged (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5236143.msg58490080#msg58490080) by lovesmayfamilis, so I think they who rikafip listef above is a part of the same bumping service


Thank you for provided links. I just check the price of the Shuna token
Shuna Inuverse  SHUNAV2 Rank #3848

Shuna Inuverse Price (SHUNAV2) $0.0000001379  32.15%
0.000000000004 BTC32.61%
0.000000000057 ETH33.33%

SHUNAV2 rise while the whole cryptocurrency market falls.
32% rise during market fall means that investors really believe in the prospects of the project.


I just checked the price of GOGE https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/dogegayson/markets/
It continues to rise.

Doge Gay Son Price (GOGE)
$0.00001062 2.39%
0.000000000271 BTC2.48%
0.000000003819 ETH0.57%

But also important to increase the liquidity of the coin.

I just checked the price of  Doge Gay Son Price (GOGE). It continues to raise.
The idea to create a metaverse now is very popular and many projects create their own metaverses for the community that support the ideas of the project.
A metaverse is a place that is able to unite the people who support the same ideas.
Such kind of virtual lends with all useful tools create  $GOG

Just check the price. Imagine 32% during one day.


Doge Gay Son Price (GOGE) $0.00001372 31.54%
0.000000000316 BTC16.02%
0.000000004697 ETH18.36%

It means that people really like the idea of the metaverse and the products and community that $GOGE
People want peace and they need peace. Peace all over the world. There is a big demand for peace.

[ANN] ✨✨✨ Shuna Inuverse ✨✨✨ Next-gen gaming NFT utility initiative (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5379333.0)
[ANN] ✨✨✨ SAWA ✨✨✨ Crypto Fund Syndicate Protocol (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5378914.0)
[ANN] ✨✨✨ Fomo Chronicles ✨✨✨ Where NFTs Meet Art (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5382150.0)
[ANN] ✨✨✨ LaCucina ✨✨✨ New and exciting ways to succeed in DeFi with NFTs (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5376310.0)


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on March 04, 2022, 12:27:11 PM
Ahh, how happy I am to learn that it wasn't just me that think they're a bit off. I've been curious and suspecting that they're part of a group, unfortunately I didn't have enough evidence to proof that they're indeed connected --other than the aforementioned same thread ann style and each of them commenting each other's thread.
I've been asking details about their project for a while and each of them, one by one, started to "didn't see" my questions
Yeah I saw that you have been active in a couple of their threads, asking questions and that's what they usually do; they ignore legit and often tough questions and focus on the redundant ones done by shillers.


Wirh that said and my suspicion shown to be quite justified, i took a slightly deeper search and found these other threads with similar thread title style, similar post pattern [see quoted below], and within these thread are username with bumping services that's already tagged by lovesmayfamilis, so I think they who rikafip listef above is a part of the same bumping service

[ANN] ✨✨✨ Shuna Inuverse ✨✨✨ Next-gen gaming NFT utility initiative (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5379333.0)
[ANN] ✨✨✨ SAWA ✨✨✨ Crypto Fund Syndicate Protocol (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5378914.0)
[ANN] ✨✨✨ Fomo Chronicles ✨✨✨ Where NFTs Meet Art (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5382150.0)
[ANN] ✨✨✨ LaCucina ✨✨✨ New and exciting ways to succeed in DeFi with NFTs (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5376310.0)
Good find! Yes, those 4 threads are definitely part of the same group, done by the same people and will be tagged as well. This has to be one of the laziest bumping groups I've seen so far. I guess they thought that it will look better of Copper members are active there instead Newbie accounts but they didn't count that someone will connect them which wasn't hard at all as they used the identical name format for all of their threads.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: GazetaBitcoin on March 04, 2022, 12:44:04 PM
[ANN] ✨✨✨ Shuna Inuverse ✨✨✨ Next-gen gaming NFT utility initiative (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5379333.0)
[ANN] ✨✨✨ SAWA ✨✨✨ Crypto Fund Syndicate Protocol (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5378914.0)
[ANN] ✨✨✨ Fomo Chronicles ✨✨✨ Where NFTs Meet Art (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5382150.0)
[ANN] ✨✨✨ LaCucina ✨✨✨ New and exciting ways to succeed in DeFi with NFTs (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5376310.0)

Great finding indeed, holydarkness! And I also noticed you active in first topics, meaning the ones mentioned by Rikafip. I observed you while I was cleaning them. I already cleaned these 4 more topics, reporting 29 posts from all of them. I will also add them on the watchlist, together with the ones found by Rikafip and together with those from post284 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5236143.msg59394605#msg59394605) of this thread. If you have time, you can also take a look at them, to see if spam reappeared.

Thanks again for getting involved in the cleaning operations!


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Welsh on March 08, 2022, 11:12:14 PM
Had an issue with my machine recently, so I wasn't active the last few days. Shouldn't have any issues going forward hopefully, especially annoying since I recently took the step back from off forum work to free up my schedule a bit. Anyway, I'm going to go through the remaining threads that have been mentioned over the coming days.

GazetaBitcoin, how many actually got handled in the end? I've seen this a few times, but I believe in most cases they do eventually get handled. I'm not sure if there's a limit to how many get handled within a certain amount of time or if trashed threads get added to the back of the queue. I'm not entirely sure. This isn't something I could provide a definite answer on, more like speculation.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: GazetaBitcoin on March 09, 2022, 03:37:49 PM
Heads-up:

Since my last post I cleaned the following topics:

🔥🔥[ANN][ICO]AMANPURI – Ultimate exchange – PRIVATE SALE🔥🔥 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5116010.0)
[ANN][PRIVATE-SALE][IEO] BITWINGS: OFFICIAL CRYPTOCURRENCY OF WINGS MOBILE (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5133411.0)

AMANPURI topic was reduced from 71 pages to 16. BITWINGS was reduced from 62 pages to 16.

All in all, I reported 2019 posts from these topics!



Now there are only 3 topics remaining to be cleaned:

⚽ [ANN] ⚽ MyTVchain - Live sports, powered by blockchain ⚽ (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5210814.0)
[ANN] Relictum Pro | Blockchain 5.0 of the latest generation (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5221631.0)
[ANN] DECENT - Decentralizing Content Distribution (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1162392.0)



Who wants a good laugh, read this post of nutildah, which highlighted one of the most ridiculous spammer possible :)

Isn't an iOS app yet?

If the team does not develop quickly, IOS users are stuck
I heard AMANPURI waiting for APPLE side approval
It is common sense that APPLE APP approval always takes time.
Android is always fast.
I heard AMANPURI waiting for APPLE side approval
It is common sense that APPLE APP approval always takes time.
Android is always fast.
Dude, are you nuts? You just copy/pasted the same response from one alt into a comment by the next. How much does this cheeseball exchange pay you to do this? People would have to be crazy to put their coins in an exchange that uses such a stupid spamming service. You make them look like a scam.

Bonus: nutildah being acused of spaming (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5116010.msg51423135#msg51423135), by a spammer, within same thread O0

And from this post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5116010.msg51121151#msg51121151) made by nutildah we can find out that spammers are paid with 2.38$/post. Or, at least, they were, in 2019. Probably the payment rates are higher now. Pretty good, right? Not many signature campaigns can pay this amount.

Bonus 2: while cleaning BITWINGS topic I encountered this user: Motherfuckerthynos (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2605036) Oo



GazetaBitcoin, how many actually got handled in the end? I've seen this a few times, but I believe in most cases they do eventually get handled.

Fortunately, all but 2 posts from SwapZilla trashed topic were  handled after all. They were handled with sort of big delay (2 days ago I still had 170 reports appearing as unhandled, but 168 of them were handled until this morning) and I hope that the remaining 2 will also be handled.

Excepting those 2 posts I have 2 more unhandled for a few days now, from BITWINGS topic (post IDs msg55043799 and msg55051100):

https://i.ibb.co/hgbM2dL/yrMh5oB.png

Do you think that you can take a look at these four posts remaining, please?

I'm not sure if there's a limit to how many get handled within a certain amount of time or if trashed threads get added to the back of the queue. I'm not entirely sure. This isn't something I could provide a definite answer on, more like speculation.

Oh, I see... Then, at least can you help me with this information, please?

Do you know anything about this previous post of mine?
"Now I have 170 unhandled posts from that trashed topic and I am afraid they will not be handled in proper time and I will remain forever with them as unhandled. And I'm saying that because, as you know, report history shows now only last 5000 reports. So if I make more than 5000 reports before those unhandled reports being handled, they will not be seen by mods anymore and I'll remain with them unhandled forever."

Practically, my question is this: do mods also not see anymore (similar to users) reports made over making already 5000 reports, no matter they are done in less than 30 days? I know that for the 30 days rule both mods and users can not see previous reports; does this happens also in case someone makes more than 5000 reports (in less than 30 days) -- meaning the reports with number greater than 5000 are not visible anymore for mods too (knowing they are not visible for users anymore)?

Due to this fear I had, that in case I will make more than 5000 reports these days and those unhandled reports could not be seen by mods anymore, I stopped myself from making reports until having almost all those reports handled... Therefore it would be good to know how things are - if the reports greater than 5000 (in less than 30 days) are seen by mods or not. It does not matter if I can not see them anymore, but they can be seen by mods. Otherwise, if mods also can not see the reports greater than 5000 (in less than 30 days) imagine this worst case scenario: I make 1000 reports per day. This means that in 5 days I make 5000 reports. This means that from day 6, when I make also 1000 reports, I can not see anymore the reports I made in day 1. And I continue making 1000 reports per day until day 10, when I can not see anything from my reports made in days 1-5. Now let's imagine that not all those 5000 reports from my first 5 days were handled in proper time; let's say that maybe only 1000 of them were handled. In this case, if in day 10 mods would like to handle the remaining 4000 reports I made in days 1-5 they would not be able to anymore, as they would not see the reports anymore. And this would mean a huge effort and time spent for nothing -- for finding topics where cleaning is needed, for reading all those topics, for making the reports and so on. Not to mention that it would also imply a huge queue of 4000 unhandled reports which would be visible in my reporting history forever.

Does my question have any sense...?


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rizzrack on March 09, 2022, 04:56:31 PM
Due to this fear I had, that in case I will make more than 5000 reports these days and those unhandled reports could not be seen by mods anymore, I stopped myself from making reports until having almost all those reports handled... Therefore it would be good to know how things are - if the reports greater than 5000 (in less than 30 days) are seen by mods or not. It does not matter if I can not see them anymore, but they can be seen by mods. Otherwise, if mods also can not see the reports greater than 5000 (in less than 30 days) imagine this worst case scenario: I make 1000 reports per day. This means that in 5 days I make 5000 reports. This means that from day 6, when I make also 1000 reports, I can not see anymore the reports I made in day 1. And I continue making 1000 reports per day until day 10, when I can not see anything from my reports made in days 1-5. Now let's imagine that not all those 5000 reports from my first 5 days were handled in proper time; let's say that maybe only 1000 of them were handled. In this case, if in day 10 mods would like to handle the remaining 4000 reports I made in days 1-5 they would not be able to anymore, as they would not see the reports anymore. And this would mean a huge effort and time spent for nothing -- for finding topics where cleaning is needed, for reading all those topics, for making the reports and so on. Not to mention that it would also imply a huge queue of 4000 unhandled reports which would be visible in my reporting history forever.

Does my question have any sense...?

The queue of "active" reports is not capped. The only thing is they get removed after a certain amount of time if no resolution is given and remain unhandled.
The queue of handled reports (good and bad) is not capped at a certain number either. Assume they are still displayed for a month or so in case of mistakes or whatnot. I see over 10k already handled reports and those are just the newbie ones...


Most likely those limitations (5k reports for users) are there to eliminate redundant server strain and potential attack vectors. But staff is not subject to the same rules.
So nothing to be afraid about  :)


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: GazetaBitcoin on March 09, 2022, 06:47:22 PM
The queue of "active" reports is not capped. The only thing is they get removed after a certain amount of time if no resolution is given and remain unhandled.
The queue of handled reports (good and bad) is not capped at a certain number either.

Thank you for your reply. I understand that you / mods can see more than 5000 good reports. But I was mostly referring to unhandled ones. Can you also see more than 5000 of the same user (assuming there is any user which has at this moment more than 5000 unhandled reports -- which is very unlikely, I suppose).

Most likely those limitations (5k reports for users) are there to eliminate redundant server strain and potential attack vectors. But staff is not subject to the same rules.

Roger that. But still, staff also can not see anymore the reports older than 30 days, right (for more information please see post #290 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5236143.msg59421620#msg59421620) of this topic)? Or has this limitation also been removed? If so, this would be great news as, in case of unhandled reports which remain in this state for more than 30 days, they would still have a chance to receive a resolution.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rizzrack on March 09, 2022, 07:04:53 PM
Can you also see more than 5000 of the same user (assuming there is any user which has at this moment more than 5000 unhandled reports -- which is very unlikely, I suppose).

Hope I understood the question...
If a report is not attended by any mod and after the specific time period, 30 days or what ever, receives the "unhandled" status it is no longer displayed in any report queue. Only the user that reported the post can see it in his/her report history or maybe theymos in the db. It magically vanishes from the mod report page.

There are 2 types of unhandled reports.
- "not yet" handled (<30 days old) - a mod can still check and mark it good or bad
- "never going to be" handled (>30 days old) - will remain unhandled for all eternity


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: GazetaBitcoin on March 09, 2022, 08:19:14 PM
Hope I understood the question...

Actually, I meant if you can see more than 5000 unhandled reports, all being made in less than 30 days. Imagine someone reporting 1000 posts / day for 10 consecutive days and, for some reason, they are not handled. That user can see only his last 5000 reports. But can you see all 10.000 unhandled reports?

If a report is not attended by any mod and after the specific time period, 30 days or what ever, receives the "unhandled" status it is no longer displayed in any report queue. Only the user that reported the post can see it in his/her report history or maybe theymos in the db. It magically vanishes from the mod report page.

About that, also the user can not see anymore the reports older than 30 days. They disappear also from user's reporting history, not just from mods' queue...


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rizzrack on March 09, 2022, 08:23:42 PM
Actually, I meant if you can see more than 5000 unhandled reports, all being made in less than 30 days. Imagine someone reporting 1000 posts / day for 10 consecutive days and, for some reason, they are not handled. That user can see only his last 5000 reports. But can you see all 10.000 unhandled reports?

Yes

About that, also the user can not see anymore the reports older than 30 days. They disappear also from user's posting history, not just from mods' queue...

Yes


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Welsh on March 10, 2022, 12:01:33 AM
I think Rizzrack answered that question quite efficiently :D.

And from this post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5116010.msg51121151#msg51121151) made by nutildah we can find out that spammers are paid with 2.38$/post. Or, at least, they were, in 2019. Probably the payment rates are higher now. Pretty good, right? Not many signature campaigns can pay this amount.
I'm not surprised by users recycling content, I'm sure you've noticed with the amount you've reported, that these bumping services which are being used, are very likely being run by the same people. Since, they're pretty much identical to one another. It's absolutely ridiculous, the amount of accounts which are posting the same stuff every day, and have been doing that for years. Plus, taking a look at that link Nutildah I can now understand why we've got such a problem, apparently its good money to make minimal effort posts. I'll be honest the amount of money these people are earning has surprised me. Although, the bumping changes definitely have impacted it like I've suggested previously, if not the amount that are offering these services, and performing at least nowadays less users viewing the altcoin section are being subjected to the spam. I slowly think we're making progress towards curbing this though.

Do you think that you can take a look at these four posts remaining, please?
I've handled all remaining reports I have in my report queue.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: DaveF on March 10, 2022, 11:55:03 PM
I know I have commented before here, but since I have been busy this last week I have been spending more time just reading through the trash that the alt & token boards are.
I have have to say I just don't get it. If I was looking around and saw what these people are positing I would be running the other way if I was at all interested.

Is it just me just really loosing patience and tolerance for these people or has it always been this bad? I really think those sections used to be at least a bit better.

-Dave



Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Welsh on March 11, 2022, 12:08:32 AM
Currently going through all three of the threads, most spam is deleted in the two smaller ones. I will be double checking though as it's easy to miss posts. The bigger thread, I'm currently going through.

Is it just me just really loosing patience and tolerance for these people or has it always been this bad? I really think those sections used to be at least a bit better.
I like to think there has been improvements over the years, I think personally we're in a much better position now, than we were a few years ago. The bumping changes definitely made an impact on that. Unfortunately, as its been pointed out before, other websites actually rate their review higher based on the activity of a Bitcointalk thread, so there's an incentive there to get these bumping changes, also there's the fact that some users will actually fall for the hype from these comments. It's also worth mentioning that sometimes these bumping services don't actually say anything promising about the project at all, it was just a way of creating a discussion, and therefore bumping the thread (when this applied, which it no longer does).

Altcoin section definitely has huge issues, however we are in a better place now than we were years ago. Partly thanks to the changes made by theymos, but also because of the effort being put in by the community.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on March 11, 2022, 10:07:59 AM
Another group of ANN threads that hired bumping service just discovered. If anyone has any doubt about what's going on, just look at the screenshot below and the same group of 7 accounts working across at least 6 threads. There are probably more but this was enough to make a point and provide enough proof.

https://i.postimg.cc/CLJps73c/bumpers2.png

Ann threads:
Horizon Protocol is a differentiated DeFi platform (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5386140.0)
[ANN] Cypherdog - innovative company operating in the IT, cyber security sector. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5388824.msg59461080#msg59461080)
MAVATRIX, THE LEGEND OF REWARDS!  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5386121.0)
[ANN] WELCOME TO PKT! Internet By The People, For The People! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5383165.0)
[ANN] Affyn - Reimagine a Play-to-Earn Metaverse (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5383153.0)
[ANN] ROBO INU FINANCE The community-owned crypto inspired by NASA (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5378939.0)



On top of writing in same threads, some accounts also have certain similarities when it comes to merit: 2 Member rank accounts used Bordijo (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2395536) and Efarilino (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2999204) got 10 merit each from two merit giveaway threads, [Merit] Hey Newbies! Can You Sign A Message? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5300698.0) and [Merit] Hey Bitcoiners! Can You Send Encrypted Messages? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5289839.0) which then they used to rank up other at accounts. That's just the tip of the iceberg though as several other accounts that can be connected to this group did the same; they got the merit from those merit giveaway threads and then shared them to their alts.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: examplens on March 11, 2022, 10:40:48 AM
I would call them "sup fellas..." spammer fellowship.
they all have an identical way of writing, just a few of them from Mavatrix thread (this is how every post starts, I cut out the rest of the nonsense)

sup everyone, please help me.

sup fellas, I need your advice.

wazzup fellas, I have a question.

sup fellas, how are you?

"sup fellas, seems like all this news and updates a

wazzap fellas, I need your help.




Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on March 11, 2022, 10:56:27 AM
I would call them "sup fellas..." spammer fellowship.
Hah yeah, I guess person behind those sock pupper accounts is a big Scary Movie  (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3oL7v7PLac&t=1s) fan :D


they all have an identical way of writing, just a few of them from Mavatrix thread (this is how every post starts, I cut out the rest of the nonsense)
wazzup fellas, I have a question.
I quoted Indacoin as I think that there is a big chance that this account was either sold or hacked. That's the official Indacoin account here on bitcointalk and AFAIK Indacoin (https://indacoin.io/) is a legit crypto exchanger and somehow I doubt they would bother with thread bumping.Then again, looking at their bpip (https://bpip.org/Profile?id=259161) profile, I don't see any email or password change.




Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: examplens on March 11, 2022, 12:09:48 PM
wazzup fellas, I have a question.
I quoted Indacoin as I think that there is a big chance that this account was either sold or hacked. That's the official Indacoin account here on bitcointalk and AFAIK Indacoin (https://indacoin.io/) is a legit crypto exchanger and somehow I doubt they would bother with thread bumping.Then again, looking at their bpip (https://bpip.org/Profile?id=259161) profile, I don't see any email or password change.

it seems more to me that he was part of the Indacoin team or he is just hired for that part of the job, but at some point, they Indacoin decided they didn't need this forum anymore. so the one who managed it gave him a new purpose, bump spamming over the forum.
this is just based on current feedback on his profile. Also on his profile, we see .com domains while the official indacoin on .io extension. (currently .com has also been redirected to .io)


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: holydarkness on March 11, 2022, 04:04:46 PM
Another group of ANN threads that hired bumping service just discovered. If anyone has any doubt about what's going on, just look at the screenshot below and the same group of 7 accounts working across at least 6 threads. There are probably more but this was enough to make a point and provide enough proof.

[...]

Uhh... 13, you're missing some others. I color coded them here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5384751.msg59180517#msg59180517). Aside from bumping --and shilling as their post shows fake enthusiasm-- they also cheated several bounties by enrolling their accounts altogether. Proof of connection in form of transactions between wallets are also documented.

https://i.ibb.co/DtSSLKf/Shill.jpg (https://ibb.co/wRxxY6h) https://i.ibb.co/FbPBcx5/Bounty.jpg (https://ibb.co/SXLKHst) https://i.ibb.co/R9yktL8/Transaction.jpg (https://ibb.co/Qfd3hs0)


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Welsh on March 11, 2022, 04:49:44 PM
Whenever we get through a pile of threads, there's always more to keep us on our toes :D. I'll take a thorough look of these later on. Though a quick glance suggests a global moderator will likely be needed to ban the higher ranked users.

Although, I'm still going through the Decent thread, and I suspect that'll take pretty much all of this weekend. So, another staff might have taken care of it before then.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: GazetaBitcoin on March 13, 2022, 12:22:16 PM
Heads-up:

Since my last post I cleaned the following topics:

1. The "sup fellas group" (this sounds so amusing :) Maybe instead of my usual "Heads-up" I'll use "Sup fellas" from now on O0)
Horizon Protocol is a differentiated DeFi platform (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5386140.0)
[ANN] Cypherdog - innovative company operating in the IT, cyber security sector. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5388824.msg59461080#msg59461080)
MAVATRIX, THE LEGEND OF REWARDS!  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5386121.0)
[ANN] WELCOME TO PKT! Internet By The People, For The People! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5383165.0)
[ANN] Affyn - Reimagine a Play-to-Earn Metaverse (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5383153.0)
[ANN] ROBO INU FINANCE The community-owned crypto inspired by NASA (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5378939.0)

From these topics I reported 240 posts.

2. Then I took another quick clean-sweep over the previous mentioned topics: the group found by Rikafip (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5236143.msg59418666#msg59418666) on March 3rd and the similar group (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5236143.msg59422974#msg59422974), found by holydarkness, on March 4th. Fortunately, the lattest group is inactive and no new spam appeared since my previous intervention.

3. Lastly, I took another look over the active topics from the post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5236143.msg59394605#msg59394605) I made on March 1st.

All in all, I reported 298 posts from these topics!



Starting tomorrow I will take care of last two topics which needed to be cleaned from the old group of threads -- MyTVchain and Relictum -- and, afterwards, I will start digging into Decent thread.



I think Rizzrack answered that question quite efficiently :D.

Yup, all clear now!

I've handled all remaining reports I have in my report queue.

Thank you, Welsh. My last two reports from the trashed SwapZilla thread were also changed from unhandled to Good.



Other than that, in this weekend I achieved a very nice number of reports (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5058163.msg59509710#msg59509710)!  ::) This was possible, of course with all contributors to Rikafip's thread, which mentioned so many topics full of spam -- therefore I thank you all!


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rizzrack on March 13, 2022, 12:39:34 PM
And from this post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5116010.msg51121151#msg51121151) made by nutildah we can find out that spammers are paid with 2.38$/post. Or, at least, they were, in 2019. Probably the payment rates are higher now. Pretty good, right? Not many signature campaigns can pay this amount.

TBH I was surprised to see there is a fair number of users on fiverr still ofering bumping services.
On the other hand I was not surprised to see that their reviews are fake :D old habits die hard I guess...

Should there be a new flag type for "fake discussions" ? Not sure if it would break more than it would solve but might be worth discussing at least



Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: GazetaBitcoin on March 15, 2022, 09:21:44 AM
Sup fellas (big lol)

Since my last post I cleaned the following topics:

⚽ [ANN] ⚽ MyTVchain - Live sports, powered by blockchain ⚽ (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5210814.0)
[ANN] Relictum Pro | Blockchain 5.0 of the latest generation (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5221631.0)

After 562 reports, MyTVchain was reduced from 37 pages to 8. Relictum was already cleaned by someone, as when I bookmarked it it had 35 pages, but when I started to clean it I saw it has only 13 pages and most of the remaining posts are made by OP. I had to report only 4 posts here.

Having this said, all topics posted by Rikafip in the first two posts of this thread can be considered cleaned. It was a huge work, which took about 4 months, but it's finally done!



Now wish me luck, as I started working on what is, probably, the longest thread ever to be cleaned: Decent thread which had, at start, 788 pages.

[ANN] DECENT - Decentralizing Content Distribution (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1162392.0)

I'll let you know when I finish (probably in about 25 years, when I'll also retire from work :)  :o


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: holydarkness on March 15, 2022, 12:08:15 PM
[...]

1. The "sup fellas group" (this sounds so amusing :) Maybe instead of my usual "Heads-up" I'll use "Sup fellas" from now on O0)

I prefer this one, LOL.

[...]
2. Then I took another quick clean-sweep over the previous mentioned topics: the group found by Rikafip (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5236143.msg59418666#msg59418666) on March 3rd and the similar group (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5236143.msg59422974#msg59422974), found by holydarkness, on March 4th. Fortunately, the lattest group is inactive and no new spam appeared since my previous intervention.
[...]

What do you think about this thread [ANN][PX][PRESALE] ProtocolX Decentralized Trading Protocol on BSC [METAVERSE]⚡⚡ (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5388226.0)? Their thread started to get infested by the bumping accounts on the list referred above as well as several bumping accounts tagged by lovesmayfamilis, such as:

--sorted in order of the oldest to newest post on their thread--
Z1_FINANCIAL - tagged by rikafip on the aforementioned list
LaCucina - on my additional list that completes rikafip's list
Predict Vision - Rikafip's
i8v8i - tagged by lovesmayfamilis
LunaFox - lovesmayfamilis'
SAWACrypto - mine
SDKmaster - lovesmayfamilis'
METASENSE - new one, untagged1
TmHsHel - lovesmayfamilis'

However, it might be wise to mention that Protox.App (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3407412) deviates from the group's pattern as they never posted on other's thread.

As the likelihoodness of the group to do bumping for free --and that thread is certainly being bumped-- if we assume Protox.App is not part of the group, then they're either hired those shillers or --I rather doubted this theory-- those posts are made deliberately to throw off their scent.2



1[ANN] ✨✨✨ METASENS ✨✨✨ Build the universal amusement park (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5372240.0) another with similar characteristics of bumping group that apparently missed from our initial sweep, their thread is no longer active, though
2 I think I need to start tagging those bumping accounts for my future reference and convenience on tracking which account already reviewed and which account is new



Edit: [in reply to Welsh's post below] Noted, will report these accounts from this point forward whenever I stumbled upon them. I see that you've cleaned those posts on ProtocolX's thread, that was fast.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Welsh on March 15, 2022, 12:24:45 PM
2 I think I need to start tagging those bumping accounts for my future reference and convenience on tracking which account already reviewed and which account is new
It would be better if you were to report them, maybe we can start getting to the bottom of this. I'm currently compiling a list of users that I suspect are merit abusing, trying to avoid getting nuked. Since, when they have some merit patrollers can't nuke them, and that effectively reduces the chances of them getting banned. However, like I said I'll be collecting a list of usernames, and then pinging that to the higher ups, once I have a substantial enough list.

Although, the merit abuse is only a hunch at the moment, I haven't got anything solid to back that up. It's just weird that this group of users all have one or two merit, and they're from other users which have barely earned anything. It could potentially be a filtering down effect here. Also, I've noticed some also purchase Copper membership, probably in an attempt to appear more legit too.

Relictum was already cleaned by someone, as when I bookmarked it it had 35 pages, but when I started to clean it I saw it has only 13 pages and most of the remaining posts are made by OP. I had to report only 4 posts here.
Yeah, I went through that thread. Obviously, it's easy to miss a few posts when dealing with a large amount. I do have a sort of routine where I go back, and double check after handling the reports in my report queue. I've probably already deleted several pages worth on Decent too. A long way to go, but I think we could potentially sort this one out in a month rather than 20+ years :D.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: GazetaBitcoin on March 19, 2022, 04:07:55 PM
Sup fellas (big lol again)

As I stated above, I started cleaning DECENT topic with much enthusiasm. The topic was not full of spam, nor used bumping services, therefore it was harder to clean it than I expected. Most of the reported posts were made by frustrated users, probably because they bought high and the coin dumped. So far I made 1237 reports, all but 1 handled already. This means that I reduced the topic with 61-62 pages. However, the topic is reduced now with 199 pages and this was possible only due to Welsh, which worked in par with me, and deleted 137 pages on his own. Thank you Welsh for the big help! We can say that's Decent enough (pun intended :) ).

I parsed all posts made from most recent until page 299 (which contains posts from June 2017) and my intention was go keep parsing until the date of Jan 1st, 2017, being afraid to have my reports flagged as bad, for reporting posts too old, if I would have gone beyond that date (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5236143.msg59224620#msg59224620).

However, something happened and for the moment I will stop here, as I need some information from Welsh.

The problem is that 11 out of my last 13 reports were flagged as bad although, in my opinion, they should be deleted.

https://i.ibb.co/NFk4YFv/xhK7lTg.png

The posts in question are the following:

- post made by vincentcm: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1162392.msg19866553#msg19866553
- post made by SwapStick: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1162392.msg19866612#msg19866612
- post made by vincentcm: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1162392.msg19866719#msg19866719
- post made by nathalie20: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1162392.msg19866749#msg19866749
- post made by SwapStick: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1162392.msg19868122#msg19868122
- post made by Hunterwolfie: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1162392.msg19868179#msg19868179
- post made by Marvell1: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1162392.msg19868350#msg19868350
- post made by Hunterwolfie: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1162392.msg19870134#msg19870134
- post made by Number 1: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1162392.msg19870311#msg19870311
- post made by nathalie20: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1162392.msg19871774#msg19871774
- post made by whorehay https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1162392.msg19872044#msg19872044

As you can see, all are similar to previous reports I made from this topic; most of them contain swearing or zero value; and all previous similar reports were flagged as Good. As a consequence, I am thinking (1) this is either a mistake from the mod which handled these reports; or, (2) another mod and not you handled them and considered them too old and flagged them all as bad, which was my main fear, as I wrote above, but this was for posts older than Jan 1st 2017 and, as you can see these are from Jun 2017.

@Welsh if you agree, I can dig more inside this topic, even earlier than the date of Jan 1st, 2017, but I am afraid that I can have my reports marked as bad if I keep making them. I mean, in case my reports will come to you, I believe you'll mark them as good, but maybe they will arrive in another mod's hand? (I'm saying that thinking that these bad reports where flagged as bad not by you, but by another mod; even so, do you have any idea why they were flagged as bad?) However, in case we can make an agreement, thus just you will take care of this thread, I am more than willing to dig also through the posts made earlier than Jun 9th, 2017, and also earlier than Jan 1st, 2017. Please let me know.

The posts made until Jan 1st, 2017, reach page 232 of the topic, thus I could still parse 67 pages more. However, I need to know how to proceed, as I don't want to end up having my next ~1000 reports flagged as bad (I calculated 20 posts per page multiplied by 67 pages of posts made between June 9th, 2017 and Jan 1st, 2017 and the result is 1340 posts; however, not all of them need to be reported, this being why I estimated that I'll probably made 1000 more reports from these pages).

In case another mod handled these reports as bad not by mistake, but because he considered the posts too old, I think that best approach would be here -- if possible -- to send a note to your mod colleagues and tell them to leave all the reports from this thread to be handled by you. At least, you know what is happening with this thread and why these reports appear, for such old posts. And it's happening because we discussed to clean this monster topic as well. I am more than willing to clean it entirely, but also I would not want to have 1000 bad reports in a row...

Until I'll receive a reply from you I'll make a double-check through the thread, from its most recent page to page 299.



What do you think about this thread [ANN][PX][PRESALE] ProtocolX Decentralized Trading Protocol on BSC [METAVERSE]⚡⚡ (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5388226.0)? Their thread started to get infested by the bumping accounts on the list referred above as well as several bumping accounts tagged by lovesmayfamilis

I'll keep it under watch, but when I opened it first time it was clean O0 I opened it when you mentioned it. And now, days later, it's still clean.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: holydarkness on March 19, 2022, 04:59:55 PM
What do you think about this thread [ANN][PX][PRESALE] ProtocolX Decentralized Trading Protocol on BSC [METAVERSE]⚡⚡ (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5388226.0)? Their thread started to get infested by the bumping accounts on the list referred above as well as several bumping accounts tagged by lovesmayfamilis

I'll keep it under watch, but when I opened it first time it was clean O0 I opened it when you mentioned it. And now, days later, it's still clean.

Yeah, AFAIK, Welsh took a very quick action on that issue, soon after I posted my suspicion --maybe within minutes, if not seconds-- he wiped them clean by himself.

P.s.: what's the address for checking that report status?


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: GazetaBitcoin on March 19, 2022, 05:33:24 PM
what's the address for checking that report status?

If you click on "Report to moderator" button, you reach this page:

https://i.ibb.co/0ZYXqgD/wOqzMfn.png

Within this page you have to click on "Your report history" button. The next displayed page is the page where you can see the status of your reports, as it follows:
- all reports made within past 30 days (if they are less than 5000)
- only last 5000 reports, in case you made more than 5000 reports within past 30 days (5000 reports displayed is the maximum displayed limit, so if you make 5000 reports in only 1 day, you will not see the reports you made yesterday -- as example).

However, you will not see that button ("Your report history") unless you have made already 300 good reports. It's like a perk, if you want, which unlocks you this feature after reaching 300 good reports.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Welsh on March 21, 2022, 12:13:12 AM
As you can see, all are similar to previous reports I made from this topic; most of them contain swearing or zero value; and all previous similar reports were flagged as Good. As a consequence, I am thinking (1) this is either a mistake from the mod which handled these reports; or, (2) another mod and not you handled them and considered them too old and flagged them all as bad, which was my main fear, as I wrote above, but this was for posts older than Jan 1st 2017 and, as you can see these are from Jun 2017.

@Welsh if you agree, I can dig more inside this topic, even earlier than the date of Jan 1st, 2017, but I am afraid that I can have my reports marked as bad if I keep making them. I mean, in case my reports will come to you, I believe you'll mark them as good, but maybe they will arrive in another mod's hand? (I'm saying that thinking that these bad reports where flagged as bad not by you, but by another mod; even so, do you have any idea why they were flagged as bad?) However, in case we can make an agreement, thus just you will take care of this thread, I am more than willing to dig also through the posts made earlier than Jun 9th, 2017, and also earlier than Jan 1st, 2017. Please let me know.
Yeah, it wasn't me that handled those reports. Going forward, you can always report a thread as being artificially bumped or something along those lines. We're all pretty well aware of Decent, and pretty much all of these threads now, so combing through them, and reporting each post probably isn't necessary. I'll be periodically checking most of these, and cleaning them up as time goes on. As you can imagine, older content might be seen as lower prioriity than current spam, and hence why some moderators might disagree with reporting old content.

That's probably a better workflow going forward, since that doesn't spam the rest of the moderators report queues, and when reporting just the thread, whoever sees that report can go through the thread, delete what they think is necessary, and then mark the report as handled.

I prefer to handle spam if it's spam, especially if the thread is still active. I do think questions need to be potentially asked what's the best way of handling a  thread which has effectively been deleted e.g decent, however I don't feel comfortable just trash canning it since there's a lot of history in that thread which could be of use to someone. I'm thinking potentially archival, and maybe that'll prevent the constant conversations going on currently.

However, to be clear on your question; I think reporting just the original thread, indicating bumping services or accounts have been artificially bumping it would be better, to prevent clogging up other moderators report queues. Then, the moderator handling that report, can either decide to leave it to someone who's willing to go through the thread, and sort it out or they can go through it themselves, and then mark it as handled once completed. At least this way, we're still cleaning up some threads, and also making moderators aware that there's a problematic thread, but it also doesn't clog up other moderators queues that might want to attend to more urgent reports.

Although, I can't really comment on why the moderator might have marked those bad (I haven't always handled your reports in the past, and others have, and marked them good), I do believe some of them were borderline. Some were potentially raising up legitimate concerns, despite the use of profanity. So, a moderator could have seen them as on topic enough. I know I've marked a few of yours bad in the past for reporting content which is basically half on topic, and half sort of abusing each other, but I just lent towards it being on topic enough. Although, some of those posts you've mentioned to me are low quality, and/or off topic, and I would have likely removed at least some of them.




Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: GazetaBitcoin on March 21, 2022, 09:48:24 AM
Sup fellas :)

Yeah, it wasn't me that handled those reports.

I was sure about that :) But thanks for confirming me.

Going forward, you can always report a thread as being artificially bumped or something along those lines. We're all pretty well aware of Decent, and pretty much all of these threads now, so combing through them, and reporting each post probably isn't necessary.

With all due respect, Welsh and, you probably sensed by now that I respect you a lot for your intense work you do on the forum, what you said above is just politically correct, but you know that, in practice, nobody (probably excepting you) takes care of a full thread if only one post is reported (no matter if that post contains a comment similar to "please take a look at the entire topic"). Many of us saw that this kind of action leads to no results -- take Rikafip for example, but not just him. However, in this case, your suggestion was taken and, as a consequence, this very thread was created. The result was the following: all the spam remained intact until I intervened and reported all the zero-value posts, from each topic mentioned inside Rikafip's topic.

Excepting this example there are many others from the past; sometimes other users opened threads in Meta related to this problem; and all said that whenever they reported a single post with a comment to be taken care of the entire thread, that post was flagged as good, but the remaining topic was left intact. This discussion also touched, in those topics, the subject of reporting only one post of a reporter which has all his posts being spam, and report only one post of such user with a comment similar to "please review entire user's posting activity".

It simply does not work. I know that your approach is best though (logically thinking); it would be great if it would have the impact you say; but, sadly, probably excepting you, none (or very few) of your mod colleagues share the same vision. If they see a report for a post and that post is spam, they delete it and do not look at an entire thread, although the comment associated with that report indicates that the entire thread to be reviewed...

However, I will cease here from making further reports from Decent thread, although I had prepared already a few more hundred reports. I will look for other topics which need to be cleaned.

I'll be periodically checking most of these, and cleaning them up as time goes on. As you can imagine, older content might be seen as lower prioriity than current spam, and hence why some moderators might disagree with reporting old content.

I totally understand what you mean about prioritizing chores in this case. It's normal to focus first on topics where spam is active. But this does not mean to (as we say in Romania) hide the trash under the carpet. Meaning to flag as bad some reports only because they are made on older topics. Such post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1162392.msg19872044#msg19872044) should never be considered as bad. In this case, I think that logical approach would be to leave unhandled for a while the reports made for older topics; take care first of the ones where spam is active; then return to what was previously left as unhandled.

Another option would be to have a clear statement (probably in Meta) saying something similar to the following: "reports made for posts older than XXX date will automatically be considered bad, no matter they are made for posts which really deserve to be reported". In this manner, all reporters would have a clear guideline and they would know what to report and what not.

But flagging some reports as bad although they are supposed to be good, only because some mod is too busy to take care of them may be felt as a deception by the ones which are active reporters and this should raise an alarm, as these people are too few anyway.




After the long wall of text from above, let me share with you some of the most weird / funny posts I ever seen, both being from Decent topic.

I did not receive a letter to the post office.I can not go into the old office

Here's my situation, I have to go to prison for 30 days on June 30th. So I'm going to miss the beginning of the launch. Will I still have access to my coins a month later?

Also, I hear that Rikers Island is pretty tough, and people say that I look like a young Brad Pitt. I have blond hair, blue eyes, so I have a feeling that I'm going to be assaulted. And I don't know if I'm going to be able to sit down properly after I get out. I'm going to be pretty sore, for a while. I can't go on the computer.

So how long after launch can we claim our coins?



I updated also the list with the topics where spam is still active. I also deleted a few topics, where last activity was in January-February.

{ANN} Income Finance 20% Reflection rewards paid in BUSD! (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5383269.0) - spam active
[ANN] My Crypto City (MYCTY) Mobile game using Solana infrastructure (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5380149.0) spam active

🚀 [ANN] Stabila Public Chain (STB) | Decentralize the financial system. 🚀 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5379020.20) - spam active topic active
🚀 WINZ.IO 🚀 $150,000 WINTER BONANZA QUEST ❄️ UP TO 300 FREE SPINS BONUS 🎁 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5239387.0) - OP active topic active
✅ Paradice.in | 🍀 Provably Fair 🎲 | Rain☔| 30 sec Faucet | 1% House Edge 💰| (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5206291.0) - OP active topic active
[MASS] Decentralized HARD DRIVE mining cryptocurrency | PoC | Low Energy cost (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5230593.0) - topic barely active
TimeCoinProtocol - decentralized sharing economy protocol (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5260205.0) - OP active
[ANN] Work Quest - Global End to End Jobs Marketplace Powered on Smart Contract (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5331927.0) - spam active OP active
 [ANN] EDC Blockchain - global platform with its own cryptocurrency (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5135187.0) - OP active a few times per week
[ANN] Gentlemen's Baby Club [GBC] NFT CLUB #ETH #blockchain (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5383107.0) - topic OP barely active last spam was on Feb 9th
[ANN] V SYSTEMS - Blockchain Database and App Platform by Sunny King [SPoS/Mint] (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5095853.0) - OP active rarely
[CRP]Self-funded and Released Utopia P2P ecosystem and Crypton privacy coin (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5286191.0) - OP active once per month
[ANN] Minereum - 🔥 🚀 Minereum World Metaverse Land Pre-Sale LIVE! 🚀 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4495159.0) - topic inactive since Jan 23rd + project cancelled (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4495159.msg59582409#msg59582409)



And this is the status for the "sup fellas group". It seems that half of them got tired of spamming.

[ANN]✨✨✨ Nexum (NEXM) ✨✨✨ Unbanking Shipping  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5386953.0) - spam active
[ANN]✨✨✨ Predict Vision ✨✨✨ Decentralized A.I (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5387176.0) - spam active
[ANN]✨✨✨ CLIME Finance✨✨✨ The Climate Ecosystem (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5387868.0) - spam active
[ANN]✨✨✨ Z1 FINANCIAL ✨✨✨ Investment Opportunity for Real Estate Investors  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5387127.0) - OP / topic inactive since March 10th
[ANN]✨✨✨ YachtX Coin ✨✨✨ The high-end exclusive yacht life currency (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5386855.0) - OP / topic inactive since March 8th
[ANN]✨✨✨ $GOGE ✨✨✨ DogeGaySon (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5384058.0) - OP / topic inactive since March 1st


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on March 21, 2022, 10:18:20 AM
Sup fellas ;D (this should really be the mandatory thing to write here lol)


The posts in question are the following:
Looking at the posts, I can understand why some of those reports are marked bad. Don't get me wrong, they are mostly not very constructive posts and I have nothing against posts like that getting deleted, but they don't look like a regular bumping spam either but just a bunch of people arguing and complaining. From my experience, posts like that often end up as unhandled

To be honest, I prefer mods handling cases like this, rather than leaving reports like that as unhandled which is extremely annoying, at least for me. I mean, if its bad then its bad, as unhandled post that is older than 2 weeks is euphemism for "soft bad" but I guess mods sometime don't wanna ruin people's reporting percentage which could cause people being reluctant to report posts. At least that's how I see leaving posts unhandled indefinitely.


However, to be clear on your question; I think reporting just the original thread, indicating bumping services or accounts have been artificially bumping it would be better, to prevent clogging up other moderators report queues. Then, the moderator handling that report, can either decide to leave it to someone who's willing to go through the thread, and sort it out or they can go through it themselves, and then mark it as handled once completed.
While that sounds good on paper, would it actually work? I mean, do moderators work like that or this is just your suggestion how this could be sorted in the future? Iirc, I tried something like that year or two ago, with no success so I just gave up on that approach.




Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: holydarkness on March 21, 2022, 03:11:25 PM
Well... first thing first: sup fellas, LOL.

[...]

Been wondering, how important is the comments made on each report and/or how big is it on helping to make your work easier? Is a blank comment as useful as the one with some description?


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on March 21, 2022, 05:16:41 PM
Been wondering, how important is the comments made on each report and/or how big is it on helping to make your work easier? Is a blank comment as useful as the one with some description?
Well of course that some description helps, I don't remember ever leaving the comment blank (at least not intentionally) instead letting moderator to figure out what's wrong with the reported post. Thing that helps us with that is that forum "remembers" the comments that we use so it's not like you have to enter the description from scratch, at least not when you are mass reporting thread bumping posts as when you click on the comment space, you get descriptions you used offered.

What you might consider using is suchmoon's [HACK] One-click mod report, not for the faint of heart  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5103488) that makes reporting faster, even though many of the active spambusters are still doing it standard way.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Welsh on March 21, 2022, 11:38:59 PM
While that sounds good on paper, would it actually work? I mean, do moderators work like that or this is just your suggestion how this could be sorted in the future? Iirc, I tried something like that year or two ago, with no success so I just gave up on that approach.
I can only speak for myself. If I cant act on a report, I usually leave it in the queue. For example, if it's for plagiarism, but involves a higher ranked account that I can't nuke, but it was reported within a section I moderate, I usually leave them in anticipation that a staff with the appropriate permissions looks into it further. While, this example is a little different to what we have here, I would expect that a similar process might happen.

I can't for definite tell you the best way, personally I think indvidual reports can be good at times, especially when a thread isn't covered from top to bottom in spam, however when most of the thread is spam, or it's overwhelmingly congested with spam, I think reporting the original thread could be best, indicating that there's several posts that need to be removed or maybe not the original thread itself, but a spam comment in that thread. Users do this for bumps, instead of reporting every bump individually, they report the most recent one that needs to be removed, and indicate that several others have been made. I think a workflow similar to that might be beneficial, otherwise the moderator reviewing the report might think your expecting action to be taken on the original thread itself, which wouldn't be the case.  

Personally, for me I don't see too many problems with the suggestion, although I'd willing to listen to anyone who has any ideas on the best workflow. I think the amount of reports we've recieved the last few months is rather unprecedented, and isn't something that usually happens, and since this thread has mostly been exhausted, I don't think we'll be seeing it too often in the future either. So, the issues really only start to seep in when we have exceptional cases like this, otherwise reporting as you normally would is probably fine.

Not sure if that makes sense to you guys at all. However, I think when there's a thread covered in spam, and I mean top to bottom, and it would result in hundreds of reports, I think potentially reporting just a few, and indicating there's more could be the best idea to prevent spamming other moderators report queues, that might want to be dealing with more urgent matters.

This is kind of the reason I'd like to see the report page with the ability to filter, so that things like this would not affect those that don't want to see it. Also, would be useful for local sections.

Been wondering, how important is the comments made on each report and/or how big is it on helping to make your work easier? Is a blank comment as useful as the one with some description?
Most users include some sort of comment, however if you report is pretty much self explanatory, or is pretty obvious to identify then you probably don't need to go into much complexity. Most users use a copy, and paste approach, and just use the same comments.

However, for more complex cases then adding a bit of an explanation will increase the chances of the report being handled correctly.
What you might consider using is suchmoon's [HACK] One-click mod report, not for the faint of heart  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5103488) that makes reporting faster, even though many of the active spambusters are still doing it standard way.
If users are interested in having buttons which correspond with every guideline on the unofficial guidelines with mprep, then let me know as I've whipped something very rough up. However, it's rather messy, and probably more likely to give you annoyance, and information overload than be useful.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: GazetaBitcoin on March 23, 2022, 07:26:59 AM
Sup fellas ;D (this should really be the mandatory thing to write here lol)

Sup Rikafip! I totally agree :)

Looking at the posts, I can understand why some of those reports are marked bad. Don't get me wrong, they are mostly not very constructive posts and I have nothing against posts like that getting deleted, but they don't look like a regular bumping spam either but just a bunch of people arguing and complaining. From my experience, posts like that often end up as unhandled.

Yes, that's true, Decent topic did not use bumping threads, as I mentioned in my previous post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5236143.msg59575739#msg59575739). However, there were thousands of zero-value posts (otherwise I could not have 1200+ posts reported and deleted and Welsh more than 2000), most being useless "pyramidal quotes" or various fights between some users saying Decent is scam and others saying it's great. Some were also swearing. I reported all those posts, until those from June 2017 and they were deleted. So all had same pattern. This is why I think that, mostly, the mod which flagged those as bad was thinking differently than Welsh regarding spam or not constructive posts or he considered them as being too old for bothering to moderate them...

Furthermore, if you actually read the topic, not just those examples posted by me, you'll see those posts (given by me as examples but also most of the other ones as well) as being even less constructive. For example, to understand better what I am saying, look at all posts made by user holmes70 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2304139;sa=showPosts). This guy is delusional and I believe he lost a ton of money with Decent. If you read the remaining of his posts, you'll see that all of them are made in Decent thread and you will notice also how often he changes his mind, calling Decent great a few times, calling it scam other times and so on. And insulting also the other users of the respective thread. I reported about 100+ posts of this user and they were deleted and Welsh deleted also 200+ posts made by holmes70. I saw a post inside the topic saying he had more than 700 posts and all made there. And, a post made by holmes70 himself is proving me that, indeed, he is delusional because he lost a lot of money:

You will not be able to make any profit with $ 30.
If you invest $ 200,000 like me, you deserve to criticize this team.



Iirc, I tried something like that year or two ago, with no success so I just gave up on that approach.

Do you mean you tried to start a discussion about clearing things out regarding what posts can be reported (and have a chance to be deleted) based on the year when they were made? Sorry, I did not understand exactly what you meant here.



Sup holydarkness,

Been wondering, how important is the comments made on each report and/or how big is it on helping to make your work easier? Is a blank comment as useful as the one with some description?

As both Rikafip and Welsh said, leaving a proper comment when making a report is very important. Otherwise it would look like a guessing game between you and the mod. And, excepting posts which are crystal clear for everybody that they have zero-value (but even those need a proper comment), you may want to report other posts as well, some for very complex reasons, such as plagiarism. In all these cases you should indicate why you make the respective report. Some posts may actually be constructive, but off-topic. If you'd report such posts, mods would not know your reason.

And, exactly as Rikafip suggested, you can see most of your previous comments only by clicking on the comment field when making a report. In this manner you do not actually have to stay and write manually, each time, your comment. Just left-click once with the mouse on the comment field, then select (also with the mouse) the appropriate comment, from the list of your previous comments.

Besides, reading post #187 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5236143.msg58759863#msg58759863) of this thread may give you some useful suggestions :)


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on March 23, 2022, 08:15:10 AM
Yes, that's true, Decent topic did not use bumping threads, as I mentioned in my previous post (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5236143.msg59575739#msg59575739). However, there were thousands of zero-value posts (otherwise I could not have 1200+ posts reported and deleted and Welsh more than 2000), most being useless "pyramidal quotes" or various fights between some users saying Decent is scam and others saying it's great.
From what I remember, only the last few pages of DECENT thread were basically 100% spam done by one of those bumping services. That is, at the moment I identified the same group of accounts working across six different threads (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5236143.msg59140378#msg59140378).The rest was indeed the mix of shitposts, rants and the occasional constructive posts.


Some were also swearing. I reported all those posts, until those from June 2017 and they were deleted. So all had same pattern. This is why I think that, mostly, the mod which flagged those as bad was thinking differently than Welsh regarding spam or not constructive posts or he considered them as being too old for bothering to moderate them...
Yeah that's a common "issue", that while some mod might delete the post you reported, some might mark it as bad or even leave it unhandled. It happened to me more than once and it's not an issue if it's just about a single post, but it can become an issue like in your case when you are not sure anymore whether to continue reporting posts in that thread or not.


Furthermore, if you actually read the topic, not just those examples posted by me, you'll see those posts (given by me as examples but also most of the other ones as well) as being even less constructive. For example, to understand better what I am saying, look at all posts made by user holmes70 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2304139;sa=showPosts). This guy is delusional and I believe he lost a ton of money with Decent. If you read the remaining of his posts, you'll see that all of them are made in Decent thread and you will notice also how often he changes his mind, calling Decent great a few times, calling it scam other times and so on.
You basically described 99% of the altcoin board threads, it's a total clusterfuck there. That whole section needs either big revamp or just to be locked.


Do you mean you tried to start a discussion about clearing things out regarding what posts can be reported (and have a chance to be deleted) based on the year when they were made? Sorry, I did not understand exactly what you meant here.
No, I referred to @Welsh suggestion about reporting only the first post and then mods clearing the rest of the thread. And I tried that in the past, I reported just the original post on the thread saying that it mainly consists of bumping spam as I hoped that might be enough for mods to take a look and just clear the thread without me reporting each post separately. Nothing happened of course, report remained unhandled.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: GazetaBitcoin on March 23, 2022, 08:31:24 AM
From what I remember, only the last few pages of DECENT thread were basically 100% spam done by one of those bumping services. That is, at the moment I identified the same group of accounts working across six different threads (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5236143.msg59140378#msg59140378)The rest was indeed the mix of shitposts, rants and the occasional constructive posts.

Oh, right. That spam was deleted before I started to clean the topic, probably this is why I did not see it.

You basically described 99% of the altcoin board threads, it's a total clusterfuck there. That whole section needs either big revamp or just to be locked.

Clusterfuck? Looooooooooool! That's a great word, describing perfectly the situation.

No, I referred to @Welsh suggestion about reporting only the first post and then mods clearing the rest of the thread. And I tried that in the past, I reported just the original post on the thread saying that it mainly consists of bumping spam as I hoped that might be enough for mods to take a look and just clear the thread without me reporting each post separately. Nothing happened of course, report remained unhandled.

Oh, I see now... Yes, this is true.

But what I was saying in my previous post was if it would be a good move to start a topic in Meta and ask this question bluntly: what are the oldest posts that can be reported and not be automatically left unhandled or marked as bad? Is there a timeframe? Like -- all posts made until June 30th 2017 are accepted to be moderated. Or -- all posts until Dec 31st, 2017 are accepted to be moderated. Do not report older posts as they will be ignored or marked as bad.

Thus, having this information, all reporters would know how far they can go in the past. And there would be an official statement for that. As it is now, some mods would moderate reports for old posts and some won't -- remember the discussion from posts #273 and #274 of this thread.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Welsh on March 24, 2022, 12:11:11 AM
The Decent thread definitely had a lot of spam in it, however it wasn't really related to this thread in terms of bumping services. It was mostly low quality posts, for example "decent is great because it has this feature", or "This is interesting!" posts. So, while it wasn't bumping spam that we've come across in the other threads here, it still needed cleaning up a bit.

I do think there was quite a few alt accounts mixed in the thread, that did generate conversations, since they tended to either talk the same, talk about the same topic over, and over or they simply just kept a never ending conversation up, which basically had no substance behind it. So, I do have my suspicions on a few users.

But what I was saying in my previous post was if it would be a good move to start a topic in Meta and ask this question bluntly: what are the oldest posts that can be reported and not be automatically left unhandled or marked as bad? Is there a timeframe? Like -- all posts made until June 30th 2017 are accepted to be moderated. Or -- all posts until Dec 31st, 2017 are accepted to be moderated. Do not report older posts as they will be ignored or marked as bad.

Thus, having this information, all reporters would know how far they can go in the past. And there would be an official statement for that. As it is now, some mods would moderate reports for old posts and some won't -- remember the discussion from posts #273 and #274 of this thread.
Yeah, the answer would likely go down to at the discretion of the moderator. There's no hard rules about moderating older posts. Some moderators might see it as beneficial, some might see it as necessary, and others might think it effects the workflow on moderators on more recent issues, so therefore think it's unnecessary.

While, I can sort of understand the latter to an extent, I tend remove spam whenever possible. I basically never factor in the time it was posted, and when I was reporting regular I don't think I ran into this issue either unless it wasn't all that big of a problem, and I forgot about it. It could be another reason the reports were handled bad, like I suggested a few of them could have been seen as borderline, and its down to interpretation then. Although, for me I think a few of them should have definitely been removed.

No, I referred to @Welsh suggestion about reporting only the first post and then mods clearing the rest of the thread. And I tried that in the past, I reported just the original post on the thread saying that it mainly consists of bumping spam as I hoped that might be enough for mods to take a look and just clear the thread without me reporting each post separately. Nothing happened of course, report remained unhandled.

For me, I wouldn't handle them any different. I'd either comb through them right then, and there or I would put it on my todo list, and comb through it later. I guess some moderators might prefer to be directed to the spam one by one. I guess this is down to the reporter, at worst as long as your report is accurate it should be left as unhandled, in the worst case scenario, however some moderator willing to delve deeper should pick up that unhandled report, and turn it into a good one, as I said as long as it's accurate. Actually, I think this is a decent example of when the unhandled status, is the best option. Since, the report might be accurate somewhat, however it's not specific enough for the moderator viewing it, so they leave it as a soft bad.

If you report the original thread, and it sits unhandled, I at the very least should be able to see it within the sections that I'm a moderator or if the thread owner is a newbie.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on April 01, 2022, 07:44:10 AM
It's been kinda quiet on the thread bumping scene lately, but looks like I stumbled upon another case, coming from the thread that is known to many, OWNR Wallet! Buy, exchange and store crypto. Order Visa prepaid card (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5145162.0). They even had signature campaign (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5301135.0) going on for some time but I guess they thought that way of promotion is too expensive so they turned to something far cheaper, but way less effective. I can somewhat understand shitcoins going for this "marketing technique" as creators of those are completely clueless about how things work around here, but didn't expect that from wallet that's been on bitcointalk since 2019.

Sock puppet accounts appeared somewhere around February 5th (page 30 on their thread) writing those classic one-liners and asking redundant questions. Their shillers are not only writing in their thread, but are promoting OWNR in others too, as seen in the examples below:

https://ownrwallet.com/ is the only crypto walet which has 5 licences all over the world and opearte fully legally with @bitfinex order books under the hood. Trade on Bitfinex with OWNR without a KYC
https://twitter.com/ownrwallet/status/1508791719793512451
https://ownrwallet.com/ is the only crypto walet which has 5 licences all over the world and opearte fully legally with @bitfinex order books under the hood. Trade on Bitfinex with OWNR without a KYC
https://twitter.com/ownrwallet/status/1506640483510112264

If you are annoyed by KYC then https://ownrwallet.com/ is your chance to escape! The new release under the corner witch will allow trading within the app using Bitfinex API.
https://twitter.com/ownrwallet/status/1508791719793512451

No matter where you live you can order a pre-paid VISA card within https://ownrwallet.com/ wallet and spend you crypto everywhere you go! Wallet is non custodial. Only you control your assets
OWNR wallet

https://twitter.com/ownrwallet/status/1505932643459862533


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Welsh on April 01, 2022, 11:47:51 AM
It's been kinda quiet on the thread bumping scene lately, but looks like I stumbled upon another case, coming from the thread that is known to many, OWNR Wallet! Buy, exchange and store crypto. Order Visa prepaid card (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5145162.0). They even had signature campaign (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5301135.0) going on for some time but I guess they thought that way of promotion is too expensive so they turned to something far cheaper, but way less effective. I can somewhat understand shitcoins going for this "marketing technique" as creators of those are completely clueless about how things work around here, but didn't expect that from wallet that's been on bitcointalk since 2019.
Yeah, we've mostly caught up with the problematic threads, now its just old, and mostly redundant threads. Reporting in actively posted in threads is always more beneifical, but the bumping changes that theymos made has pretty much prevented these types of threads being viewed by the majority of the forum, since a lot will only check the first few most recent pages.

I'm actually going through the entire sections of announcements, and just removing spam as I go along, as well as cleaning up threads which don't fit. I'm also sorting out a userscript to see if I can sort of spot things a little easier than before. Although, still haven't worked out the best way of implementing it.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: GazetaBitcoin on April 20, 2022, 09:09:28 AM
Sup fellas :)

ILCOIN was second biggest topic I ever cleand [...] What amazed me though was that this ANN thread was started by a member with reputation here, btcltcdigger. He is a Hero member and I really wonder why he allowed that spam inside his topic... What is even more interesting is that he never involved in his own thread. He just posted the ANN and that was all. Perhaps, if he sees this post, he may come with an explanation.
btcltcdigger was likely the announcement manager, and wasn't involved with the project itself.
I believe that too. However, I think that a topic starter has responsibility for what happens inside his topic. At least, this is what I think about my topics. As the situation is now, the following questions pop in a natural manner: did btcltcdigger know that his topic will be used for bumping services?; if so, was he paid too, to allow the spam?; why didn't he do anything to defend his reputation (e.g.: clean the topic or state somewhere that he is not involved anyhow in that spam nor he was paid for initiating a topic for pure spam)?

It's been a while since my last post here... In this time I bumped accidentally into another topic initiated by btcltcdigger, this being the reason for quoting the above-mentioned posts. The topic in question is [ANN][ICO] ⚡ ZEEX ⚡ ⚡ CRYPTO TO PRODUCT ⚡ NO FIAT, NO FEES ⚡ (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3109781.0) and it was also full of spam. After reporting 1764 posts from it, it still has 48 pages remaining. OP is again btcltcdigger and he allowed again all the spammers paid for bumping services to act free inside his topic.

If at first time I was just wondering how that was even possible, considering this user's reputation, seeing that it happened twice already raises more question marks. Is btcltcdigger accepting payments for initiating such topics? Is he creating these topics being aware of their "evolution"? I don't know if he uses any notification bot, but I see that he never replied here, after the earlier posts. Maybe he will do it now. However, I, on my side, intend to check all his topics... I am curious to see if I will find other similar ones. I am not sure yet if the user needs any tagging for performing these activities but, however, having (at least) 2 topics created by him for the sole purpose of spam is, certainly, not good.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on April 20, 2022, 01:28:43 PM
Sup @GazetaBitcoin (and other fellas) :D

I've been reluctant so far to tag OPs of the threads that are using bumping services as I wasn't 100% sure that they were part of it. The only time (iirc) when I tagged them if they were doing the same thing as the other bumping  accounts, like it happened recently with that bumping group that consisted of Copper Members.

What I sometime do though is that I try to communicate in their thread and explain them how bad and pointless what they are doing actually is, like I did in Ownr Ann group recently and from what I can see they stopped with that so I guess it worked.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Welsh on April 21, 2022, 10:51:32 PM
If at first time I was just wondering how that was even possible, considering this user's reputation, seeing that it happened twice already raises more question marks. Is btcltcdigger accepting payments for initiating such topics? Is he creating these topics being aware of their "evolution"? I don't know if he uses any notification bot, but I see that he never replied here, after the earlier posts. Maybe he will do it now. However, I, on my side, intend to check all his topics... I am curious to see if I will find other similar ones. I am not sure yet if the user needs any tagging for performing these activities but, however, having (at least) 2 topics created by him for the sole purpose of spam is, certainly, not good.
I don't know. It probably warrants taking a look into it further. Although, bumping bots are quite common, I do believe even Howey coin has been subject to these types of bumping bots, I'm not entirely sure why that is, and why they've done that, but I do believe I've seen it, and I don't mean the sarcastic remarks about it, but rather the exact same pattern of bumping groups.

It definitely isn't good, but I like to operate on a innocent until proven guilty, and while it doesn't look great correlation doesn't equal causation. If anyone wants to take a further look into it, and can find any other supporting information, it might save a lot of spam in the future.

I've been reluctant so far to tag OPs of the threads that are using bumping services as I wasn't 100% sure that they were part of it. The only time (iirc) when I tagged them if they were doing the same thing as the other bumping  accounts, like it happened recently with that bumping group that consisted of Copper Members.
Yeah, seems like the Copper Membership was a ploy to prevent getting spotted as quickly, since not all staff can ban them. Obviously, they can remove the posts, but banning them is the real preventive measure. Obviously, these bumping groups are usually within the hundreds of accounts, so banning isn't the absolute solution, but it definitely slows them down more than just deleting their posts.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: decodx on June 20, 2022, 03:27:20 PM
Something suspicious has been going on in this thread in Gambling Board: Coinslotty.com | Up to 20% Cashbacks | Crypto casino | Multi currency wallet (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5392552.0)

Several newbie accounts have been bumping the thread over the past few months (from the very beginning) with mostly useless one-line comments or questions about casino. Especially suspicious is that all of these accounts began posting exclusively in Coinslotty thread after an extended period of inactivity in their posting history.

List of suspected accounts:

BrandonMarshall (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=159210)   
aqzqai001 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=515369)      
l0ck3 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1451644)   
jeep.jeep (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=152975)      
duffy22 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=17151)   
mrtornado (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=180330)   
predix (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=34012)   
Sergey2013 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=322270)   
JonasBros (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=12545)      
inthea (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=287421)      
cookiewise (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=82620)   
Mr_New (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=513986)      

As GamblingBro noticed first (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5392552.msg60403073#msg60403073), I also believe the casino has hired a bumping service or bought some old accounts that are being used to create fake activity in their ANN thread.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on June 20, 2022, 08:04:06 PM
Something suspicious has been going on in this thread in Gambling Board: Coinslotty.com | Up to 20% Cashbacks | Crypto casino | Multi currency wallet (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5392552.0)
Yep, no doubts that those are sock puppet accounts whose only purpose is to fake interest in Coinslotty thread. The only question is whether they hired bumping service or are they are doing it by themselves. Using very old accounts is Vitor Services ( who is behind the biggest thread bumping service) M.O, but they are usually active in other threads as well, and not only one like in this case.

Gonna tag those sock puppet accounts and lets see if they bring more.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Welsh on June 21, 2022, 09:10:40 AM
In the process of cleaning it up. Their posts were very low quality, generic questions, and all basically have only posted in this thread recently. They also strategically answered each other, i.e waiting 10-20 minutes to assure that the thread stayed near the top of the section. Also, taking a further look, they all woke up around the same time, and also changed their passwords around the same time. I suspect these were either compromised around the same time. However, quite clearly owned by the same person/group. If they've been compromised like I suspect, I imagine this is a bumping group which advertises they bump via aged accounts.

The only question is whether they hired bumping service or are they are doing it by themselves. Using very old accounts is Vitor Services
Interesting, they have their own website dedicated to this sort of service, they're probably raking in the money, yet most bumping services (pretty much every single one of them) are of such low quality, that they're usually obvious. These guys are not only neglecting the forum rules, they're likely doing this other places, so they have a complete disregard for other communities, but are getting paid pretty sweetly, and doing the bare minimum of effort.

I didn't realise we had already got to the stage of people creating their own website with fancy wording for fake conversations.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Rikafip on June 21, 2022, 09:23:55 AM
Interesting, they have their own website dedicated to this sort of service, they're probably raking in the money, yet most bumping services (pretty much every single one of them) are of such low quality, that they're usually obvious.
My guesstimate is that they are responsible for at least 90% of the thread bumping on bitcointalk in the last couple of years (nutildah was the first who identified them back in 2019), basically having monopoly on this.


These guys are not only neglecting the forum rules, they're likely doing this other places, so they have a complete disregard for other communities, but are getting paid pretty sweetly, and doing the bare minimum of effort.
They are doing the same thing on every possible platforms, from reddit and and Facebook to LinkedIn and Medium. You can check full overview here (https://vitor-services.company/services/community-growth/).


I didn't realise we had already got to the stage of people creating their own website with fancy wording for fake conversations.
Yeah, gotta appear as professional as possible to attract the clients.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Welsh on June 21, 2022, 09:38:56 AM
My guesstimate is that they are responsible for at least 90% of the thread bumping on bitcointalk in the last couple of years (nutildah was the first who identified them back in 2019), basically having monopoly on this.
Well, funny you should say that, because these were oddly reminiscent of the ones I see over at the Altcoin section. So, you might be onto something there. I've never really taken a look at where they're coming from, but they use the same techniques, same patterns, and well could well be the case that they have a monopoly over this forum in the bumping department anyway.

I've asked another member of staff to take a look into this in more detail, but I've cleaned up the majority. Just need to clean up the replies to the now deleted posts.


Title: Re: [LIST] ANN threads that are using bumping services
Post by: Bitcoin_Arena on June 25, 2023, 10:40:27 PM
RaiseX: Daily signal for trading, access to the VIP club of traders (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5456653.0) is using bumping service account to create fake engagement in their thread.

Now given that trading signal groups are usually scamming, most people will definitely ignore RaiseX, but it's good to identify their bumping service accounts for future reference

Archive - https://ninjastic.space/topic/5456653

OP - Gatyre1 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3545114)
1. BreDvarD (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3542484)
2. PancherSh (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3534741)
3. Aptekary (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1812623)
4. MidnightWolf (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1180710)
5. AngellSky (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1412695)