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January 17, 2022, 09:32:05 AM Last edit: May 22, 2023, 02:23:49 PM by GazetaBitcoin |
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Heads-up: Since my last post I cleaned the following topics: PosBit-Safe - 220 reports; PAYACCEPT - 123 reports. By far, this post of notblox1 took all my time since January 8th. All Satoshi Club topics represented 149 reports. ZYX Network - 21 reports. Tap - 93 reports. But the greatest challenge were the topics of ShareRing (362 reports) and PHORE ( 1288 reports). ShareRing topic was reduced from 52 pages to 33, while PHORE topic was reduced from 162 pages to 101. Right now I still have 103 unhandled reports from PHORE topic, which means it'll go to under 100 pages after they will be processed. All in all, I reported 2255 posts from all these topics! And with this, I also finished cleaning all the topics from page 4 of current thread. I am now at 3rd page, at post #60. I will continue from here backwards.
I've cleaned up two threads as of now, with one of them being removed completely. Great job, Welsh! Maybe it'll be better to also mention here which topics you cleaned / nuked...? Also, probably some of the threads that were mass reported by users have already been pretty much cleaned up. All my reports were handled (excepting the ones from today).
Welsh, I have a question: I noticed than 100% more than 99.9% of my reports which had the comment "Zero-value post" were marked as good and the posts were deleted. This is great news! However, during my reporting activity, in several topics I noticed users which made multiple posts in a row, which I also reported. In the past, such reports of mine were flagged as good. But within these topics, I received some bad reports and this is somehow disappointing. Do you have any idea why these reports of mine were flagged as bad? I will give you some examples below (all being posts which I reported with this comment - "Posting multiple posts in a row"). https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3179265.msg54683832#msg54683832 - as you see, user _decentralise made 2 posts in a row https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3179265.msg55452775#msg55452775 - user Cappex made 3 posts in a row https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3179265.msg55513179#msg55513179 - again, user Cappex made 2 posts in a row https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3179265.msg55737458#msg55737458 - again, user Cappex made 2 posts in a row Seeing that those reports were flagged as bad, I ignored all the other multiple posts in a row, although I noticed very many of them, especially inside PHORE topic. Then I have 5 reports for same Cappex, the posts were deleted, but the reports are flagged as bad ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ibb.co%2FBCrzB45%2FjHQcDme.png&t=665&c=CIxmgiU9Az10EA) Same happened with 3 reports for user Oren_ishi: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ibb.co%2FfN0XzgN%2FNkmFZ0z.png&t=665&c=C_Hq_9sh_UM91A) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ibb.co%2FC6PXBS4%2FVyufjLL.png&t=665&c=xWotRn0gsXCLdQ) And with 3 reports for user BountyHunt5: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ibb.co%2FY2nLkJN%2Fgo1bo6n.png&t=665&c=Ay5kQsoPANmJFw) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ibb.co%2F1nK3VT9%2FwXzPUqj.png&t=665&c=W6tT4FvxvWOmIQ) Do you have any idea why this happened?
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January 17, 2022, 03:32:12 PM Merited by LoyceV (2), Welsh (1) |
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Those are not really "posts in a row" in the bad sence. They are "daily updates / daily info / daily news" so they should be in different posts. They are ~24h apart ... The fact that a few consecutive posts from a thread belong to the same user is not always seen as "posting in a row". The users that you mentioned are not newbies so it was not me who handled your reports but FWIT that's just my 2 cents
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January 18, 2022, 01:24:58 PM Last edit: January 18, 2022, 03:55:04 PM by Welsh Merited by Rikafip (1), GazetaBitcoin (1) |
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Depending on the moderator handling the reports, they might merge the posts together or they might simply mark the report as bad. Really does depend on the context, and the moderator that's handling the report. Although, what Rizzrack said is probably accurate in this case.
Don't worry too much about it, if you pick up a bad report here, and there. I know it can be a pain to your score, but I suspect when your reporting this many posts accurately your probably at 100% accuracy regardless.
On a side note, I expect to be going through the majority of threads today. Hopefully, they'll be a big clean up by the end of the day.
Current progress: The majority of the threads between 81 - 149 should be pretty much clean. Although, I do need to merge a few of the posts together which I'll do later after getting the majority of the spam deleted.
I do need to revisit a few problematic threads though so not 100 percent of that range will be perfectly cleared right now. The problematic threads are just some of the larger ones which need a little more scrutiny.
Also, I'll be looking to do further digging on quite a few of them, to see if they're indeed paying for these posts. If anyone can also help prove that, let us know.
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Also, I'll be looking to do further digging on quite a few of them, to see if they're indeed paying for these posts. If anyone can also help prove that, let us know.
What exactly would be a proof enough that they are paying for those posts? Would maybe table like the one below suffice, to see the clear connection between the accounts and various threads. I mean, for what other reason would same group of (mostly newbie) accounts write on the same group of threads, if not for being paid to do exactly that?
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What exactly would be a proof enough that they are paying for those posts? Would maybe table like the one below suffice, to see the clear connection between the accounts and various threads. I mean, for what other reason would same group of (mostly newbie) accounts write on the same group of threads, if not for being paid to do exactly that?
A lot of the time these sort of projects are advertising in their Discords, Telegram or whatever other communication they have. They often offer posting for an incentive. Though, I suspect these particular projects are doing it under the cuff. I did find some advertising an incentive for posting though, which were removed. I suspect by some of the threads I came across that were already removed for the same reason. Otherwise, its pretty obvious most of the time when users are posting in the same threads, and they're using the same phrases. Most of the users that are in these threads should now be banned or were already banned. However, its difficult to prove that the people behind the thread are paying for bumping services, despite it probably being quite clear they're. So, I won't be removing any threads that I can't prove are doing it, since that would open up a can of worms for projects trying to frame competitors. Tables like the one you've linked are useful for banning individual accounts. However, if possible I'd like to get to the source of the problem if possible.
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January 18, 2022, 05:41:53 PM Last edit: May 22, 2023, 02:24:37 PM by GazetaBitcoin |
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Heads-up: Since my last post I cleaned the following topics: Cleaned all three topics - 139 posts reported. Sadly, inside Sensitrust topic I found an account from 2011 used for spam - nico6616. Cleaned - 108 posts reported. This was another monster topic, with no less than 82 pages ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I reported 236 posts here and now the topic is reduced to only 69 pages. Here are a few more threads that deserve to be added to the list. I reported 46 posts from COREGROUP topic. Regarding ShareRing, I already cleaned this topic as it was also posted by someone else. Here I reported 32 posts. Sadly, I could not clean the Russian topic, due to lack of knowledge of this language ( maybe Welsh can take a look?). In the other topic I made 159 reports and it was reduced from 19 pages to 10. Also, while cleaning Monolith topic, I found this very amusing post made by one of the spammers ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) read this news? An anonymous investor bought more than 40,000 ETH on the decentralized exchange Uniswap. As a result of his actions, the cryptocurrency exchange rate on the platform soared by 13%, which caused him to overpay almost $2 million. And? I don't know, just a news Please, don't spamSadly, I also found another account from 2011 used for these spams - gisellamarone... This one was another great challenge, as it had 60 pages of spam. Now, after 730 reports, the topic has only 18 remaining pages. All in all, I reported 1450 posts from all these topics! Now I am at post #45 and I'll continue from this one backwards.
Besides all these, I have a suggestion to Rikafip: all topics from OP and post #2 appear as active, but not all of them are active anymore. Would you like me to make an update for all the threads mentioned in OP and post #2, in order to reflect reality? Another thing, maybe it would be better if you would add one more column to the table, named "Cleaned?" and state a "Yes" or a "No" at each topic, in order to be easier to see which ones still need cleaning?
Those are not really "posts in a row" in the bad sence. They are "daily updates / daily info / daily news" so they should be in different posts. They are ~24h apart ...
The fact that a few consecutive posts from a thread belong to the same user is not always seen as "posting in a row". I understand. I thought though that only OPs are allowed to do such posts. So other users can also have multiple posts in a row, if they are made after 24h?
Don't worry too much about it, if you pick up a bad report here, and there. I know it can be a pain to your score, but I suspect when your reporting this many posts accurately your probably at 100% accuracy regardless. Hehe, thanks for encouraging me, Welsh! Sadly, my accuracy is not 100%, but I work a lot to get it there. And it is not 100% because when I started making reports I did not pay too much attention and I made a lot of duplicate reports (meaning about 400 bad reports), which took me to an accuracy of only 75%. Since then I am eagerly trying to improve it. Now this is how my stats look like: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ibb.co%2FCHDLZPv%2Fu9Rc43r.png&t=665&c=Oq7yNt44P_Z9mg) Another curios aspect you can notice is the very high number of unhandled reports. This is another mill stone I'll have to always carry with me. This is because 1838 of those 1926 unhandled reports will never be handled. They were reported last year or 2 years ago, most of them were for the immense spam from Press board and, for some reason, nobody handled them. And, as reports disappear from the list after one month, now no mod can even see them (assuming that there would be a mod interested in handling those old reports). So I have a "tail" of 1838 unhandled reports which will always follow me. The difference from 1838 to 1926 - these are 88 reports I made a few minutes ago. After they will be processed, the number of unhandled reports will remain 1838... On a side note, I expect to be going through the majority of threads today. Hopefully, they'll be a big clean up by the end of the day.
Current progress: The majority of the threads between 81 - 149 should be pretty much clean. Good job! I was not aware that mods clean threads on their own, without having reports. I always thought that they act only based on the receive reports... Do mod act on their own too, or are you a special case? ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) And about your cleaning process, I have a suggestion if I may: I would recommend to go post by post, instead of taking all the threads listed in OP and in post #2. It is possible that some to not appear in OP (maybe Rikafip did not consider them worth to be mentioned or simply forgot?; such examples are the SatoshiClub topics mentioned by notblox1 and cleaned by me, but some other ones can be found as well if you go post by post). It may take more time, but if you want to be 100% percent sure you did not miss anything, you should follow this suggestion.
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What exactly would be a proof enough that they are paying for those posts? Would maybe table like the one below suffice, to see the clear connection between the accounts and various threads. I mean, for what other reason would same group of (mostly newbie) accounts write on the same group of threads, if not for being paid to do exactly that?
A lot of the time these sort of projects are advertising in their Discords, Telegram or whatever other communication they have. They often offer posting for an incentive. Though, I suspect these particular projects are doing it under the cuff. Yeah, announcement threads mentioned in this topic are doing it more subtle, as they are not giving their tokens in exchange for thread bumping, but instead they are paying "marketing agency" to that, and you usually won't find any written evidence of that. Last time when I provided exactly the kind of proof you are talking about, for some thread wasn't deleted. Back on January 1st I reported this thread, provided the proof that they are offering incentive for thread bumping, but my report remained unhandled. Evidence below should be good enough, right? So, few days ago I reported to mods announcement thread that has bitcointalk reply as one of the requirements for their airdrop, which is against the rules. Few days passed, and nothing happened so far so I am asking if others can report the thread as well, maybe that helps. Ann thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5379058.0Here is the proof Their TG group where that airdrop is spread https://t.me/fundraiselaunchpad
It is possible that some to not appear in OP (maybe Rikafip did not consider them worth to be mentioned or simply forgot?; such examples are the SatoshiClub topics ( https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5236143.msg54940954#msg54940954) mentioned by notblox1 and cleaned by me, but some other ones can be found as well if you go post by post). It may take more time, but if you want to be 100% percent sure you did not miss anything, you should follow this suggestion. The main reason why i didn't include SatishiClub topics is because I am only focused on threads that are active at the moment of discovery due simple reason: that list would be at least 4x bigger if I included all those old topics that were being bumped and I didn't want to waste my (or mods time) cleaning old and abandoned threads but instead focus on the ongoing ones.
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I understand. I thought though that only OPs are allowed to do such posts. So other users can also have multiple posts in a row, if they are made after 24h? I would probably merge them together if it was myself handling them. Though, moderators tend to handle it differently when it comes to consecutive posts. Sometimes they're deleted, sometimes they're merged, and then sometimes they're left there, and marked bad. Usually, if its not important news, doesn't have much content, and isn't made by the OP it'll be merged, generally. Hehe, thanks for encouraging me, Welsh! Sadly, my accuracy is not 100%, but I work a lot to get it there. And it is not 100% because when I started making reports I did not pay too much attention and I made a lot of duplicate reports (meaning about 400 bad reports), which took me to an accuracy of only 75%. Since then I am eagerly trying to improve it. Now this is how my stats look like:
Ah well continue how your going, and I'm sure you'll get enough of a theshold to get to that 100 percent. For the most part your reports have been solid. Another curios aspect you can notice is the very high number of unhandled reports. This is another mill stone I'll have to always carry with me. This is because 1838 of those 1926 unhandled reports will never be handled. They were reported last year or 2 years ago, most of them were for the immense spam from Press board and, for some reason, nobody handled them. And, as reports disappear from the list after one month, now no mod can even see them (assuming that there would be a mod interested in handling those old reports). So I have a "tail" of 1838 unhandled reports which will always follow me. The difference from 1838 to 1926 - these are 88 reports I made a few minutes ago. After they will be processed, the number of unhandled reports will remain 1838... Yeah, unfortunately even if a moderator was interested in clearing up old unhandled reports, there's no way of doing it. However, I hope you've found a new surge of motivation considering most of your reports are being handled these days! Hopefully that can continue. Good job! I was not aware that mods clean threads on their own, without having reports. I always thought that they act only based on the receive reports... Do mod act on their own too, or are you a special case? Nah, I'm definitely not a special case ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) . Many moderators delete posts that haven't been reported. The statistics available in Meta though only take into account posts that have been reported. I would say that you could probably double the reports every month, and you won't be far off the total amount deleted. Though, that's just a rough estimation, by no means is that backed up by any sort of data. And about your cleaning process, I have a suggestion if I may: I would recommend to go post by post, instead of taking all the threads listed in OP and in post #2. It is possible that some to not appear in OP (maybe Rikafip did not consider them worth to be mentioned or simply forgot?; such examples are the SatoshiClub topics mentioned by notblox1 and cleaned by me, but some other ones can be found as well if you go post by post). It may take more time, but if you want to be 100% percent sure you did not miss anything, you should follow this suggestion. I'll be going through the backlog just so its easier for me to keep track, and then I'll go through the threads that haven't been mentioned in the OP. I also monitor the sections periodically, and delete what I find just by normal browsing. So, while there's an ongoing process of finding this spam, this thread has significantly increased the amount of the backlog being cleared. Same as reports, though I understand not everyone has time to report individually so a thread or reporting just one post is sometimes the only way, which is fine.
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...Since my last post I cleaned the following topics...
I wonder how you choose them? I see that most of them are from last year, or started at least few months ago. Do you have any strategy when you choose which one to take? Maybe newer once or actively used could bring more effects? In the past I also cleaned many of them myself and lately I came across one of many spammy old threads and thought to report and clean it but it is still like fighting with the windmills, so I leaved it. I really appreciate what you do because I know how much time it costs, even if you get into practice, it takes a few hours for the work you did. Well done mate.
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January 19, 2022, 08:58:43 PM Merited by Symmetrick (1) |
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Heads-up: Since my last post I cleaned the following topics: I cleaned the English topic - 96 reports. I cleaned this one too - 97 reports. With these two topics I also finished page 3 of this thread. Now I am at page 2.
Cleaned - 23 reports. Here I reported a total of 224 posts for all three topics. First one of these 2 topics was clean. On second topic was a lot of work, as I had to report 280 posts. This was another topic difficult to clean, as it had 36 pages. Here I reported 695 posts and the thread was reduced from 36 pages to 1. All in all, I reported 1415 posts from all these topics! Now I am at post #28 and I'll continue from this one backwards.
The main reason why i didn't include SatishiClub topics is because I am only focused on threads that are active at the moment of discovery due simple reason: that list would be at least 4x bigger if I included all those old topics that were being bumped and I didn't want to waste my (or mods time) cleaning old and abandoned threads but instead focus on the ongoing ones. That makes sense, I totally understand. Rikafip, did you see this part of my previous message? Besides all these, I have a suggestion to Rikafip: all topics from OP and post #2 appear as active, but not all of them are active anymore. Would you like me to make an update for all the threads mentioned in OP and post #2, in order to reflect reality? Another thing, maybe it would be better if you would add one more column to the table, named "Cleaned?" and state a "Yes" or a "No" at each topic, in order to be easier to see which ones still need cleaning?
I would probably merge them together if it was myself handling them. Though, moderators tend to handle it differently when it comes to consecutive posts. Sometimes they're deleted, sometimes they're merged, and then sometimes they're left there, and marked bad. Usually, if its not important news, doesn't have much content, and isn't made by the OP it'll be merged, generally. Oh I see, thank you for explaining me, Welsh! But I have a question though, regarding multiple posts in a row: why are OPs allowed to do it though...? According to rule 32, 32. Posting multiple posts in a row (excluding bumps and reserved posts by the thread starter) is not allowed. unless they have reserved posts, not even OPs should be allowed to have multiple posts in a row. Therefore, why are they allowed? Ah well continue how your going, and I'm sure you'll get enough of a theshold to get to that 100 percent. For the most part your reports have been solid. Thank you, Welsh! This post of theymos is what gave me so much determination recently: These are the people who have the most good reports over the last year I mean I made reports in 2020 and 2021 too, but seeing me that in 2020 I was the 4th most efficient reporter determined me to be eager to be even a better one! Now it's probably impossible to catch up with Ratimov or actmyname, but I'll do my best ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
I wonder how you choose them? They are all listed here, inside Rikafip's topic... I just pick them one by one ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) In the past I also cleaned many of them myself and lately I came across one of many spammy old threads and thought to report and clean it but it is still like fighting with the windmills, so I leaved it. Awww, never give up! I really appreciate what you do because I know how much time it costs, even if you get into practice, it takes a few hours for the work you did. Well done mate. Thank you so much! Indeed, to report ~1000 posts in a day takes me like 8h or so... It's not easy, but I do my best. For example, on Christmas 2021 I had 8000 good reports and now I have 20564! ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) It's doable, with effort...
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January 19, 2022, 09:23:18 PM Last edit: January 19, 2022, 10:25:17 PM by Welsh |
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Oh I see, thank you for explaining me, Welsh! But I have a question though, regarding multiple posts in a row: why are OPs allowed to do it though...? According to rule 32, 32. Posting multiple posts in a row (excluding bumps and reserved posts by the thread starter) is not allowed. unless they have reserved posts, not even OPs should be allowed to have multiple posts in a row. Therefore, why are they allowed? It's more based on the moderator handling it. I usually merge these types of posts, and handle the post as good. Though, other moderators obviously handle it differently. If you wanted a specific answer as to why they wasn't handled good you'd have to contact the moderator that handled it, though that can be difficult to determine. For example, if you take a look at some of the threads which you've been reporting in you'll find myself, and Mprep merging posts that are both news, and replying to other users consecutively. Usually, its to better organize the thread, and not for it to be annoying for users to navigate. Reserve posts are allowed because sometimes its cleaner to do so, and there is a limit to the amount of characters in a post, albeit its pretty high. In the past I also cleaned many of them myself and lately I came across one of many spammy old threads and thought to report and clean it but it is still like fighting with the windmills, so I leaved it.
If you would find it easier to report one post, and indicate in the report message that there's much more spam in the thread itself, then that's perfectly fine! Sometimes with large threads, and a lot of other discussion going on its more convenient to moderators to have individual posts reported, but if your limited for time reporting a single post is more than acceptable, and the moderator handling it will always read the report message before handling it. You wouldn't be alone, a number of users have done this in the past, and its sometimes more efficient for everyone.
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Rikafip, did you see this part of my previous message? Besides all these, I have a suggestion to Rikafip: all topics from OP and post #2 appear as active, but not all of them are active anymore. Would you like me to make an update for all the threads mentioned in OP and post #2, in order to reflect reality? Another thing, maybe it would be better if you would add one more column to the table, named "Cleaned?" and state a "Yes" or a "No" at each topic, in order to be easier to see which ones still need cleaning? Ah sorry, completely missed that one. Regarding the first suggestion about updating the status, you are absolutely right. I planned to do that for quite some time, but somehow always found the reason to postpone it. I will definitely try to do that soon, when I have a little bit more free time. About adding one more column, maybe I should simply edit current status with "Cleaned" and sort that out in a more convenient way, isntead adding one more column as it would take some time considering size of the list. Anyway, will think about it.
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Heads-up: Since my last post I cleaned the following topics: Cleaned - 44 reports. Cleaned - 50 reports. I could not access first topic. Probably it was deleted... I cleaned second one though - 41 reports. I think this was previously cleand by someone else. Here I had only 7 posts to report. Sadly, I could not do anything for this topic, as I do not know Russian. Maybe Welsh can take a look though... Cleaned both - 128 posts reported. Another thread which is using bumping services is Largo Coin. This was another monster thread, having 35 pages full of spam. I had to report 611 posts in this case. All in all, I reported 906 posts from all these topics! Now I am at post #21 and I'll continue from this one backwards.
Maybe until end of January I will finish cleaning also the topics mentioned within the first 100 posts. As far as I see, there are only 18 topics remaining to be cleaned. I think I can reach the deadline I wrote above ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
Ah sorry, completely missed that one.
Regarding the first suggestion about updating the status, you are absolutely right. I planned to do that for quite some time, but somehow always found the reason to postpone it. [...]
About adding one more column, maybe I should simply edit current status with "Cleaned" and sort that out in a more convenient way It's okay, I can do it for you if you want ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) If you look at my post, you'll see that I asked if you would like me to do it ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I will present you a draft here if you like and see how it goes.
Great job, GazetaBitcoin. Thank you! Well, share your successes in the form of reporter statistics? ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) I already did that a few days ago ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Look above.
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As far as I can tell a lot of the threads in the original post are now somewhat cleaned apart from a few exceptions which will take a little longer to go through. I've likely revisit them from time to time to see if we've got any new spam waves, though judging by the activity of a lot of them, I suspect whoever has been behind the spam waves have either quit or moved on. Sadly, I could not do anything for this topic, as I do not know Russian. Maybe Welsh can take a look though...
We have Russian speaking moderators which are pretty active. So, you can just report them if you suspect something is up. You don't necessarily need to know the language to report if you've recognized a pattern, the moderators that can speak the language (not limited to Russian) can then review it. Yeah, there's probably a slightly higher chance of getting a bad report, but really it doesn't matter all that much. I personally won't act on a report that I don't understand the language of. We have local moderators for a reason ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) .
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January 21, 2022, 09:45:00 AM |
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I plan on merging the consecutive posts that have been left on the original list. I'll then review the replies in this thread. I looked through that topic, but outright spam has long been deleted there, there are more or less constructive posts left, so there is no point in reporting this topic, most likely there will be only Bads for sent reports.
Sweet, I guess my overall message was in the future don't be afraid of reporting the thread, and indicating in the report field that you suspect certain users are bumping the thread or engaging in fake conversations. It's only one bad report, and I'm sure the local moderators would appreciate more reports that could potentially clean up their section.
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January 21, 2022, 12:02:42 PM |
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It's okay, I can do it for you if you want ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) If you look at my post, you'll see that I asked if you would like me to do it ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I will present you a draft here if you like and see how it goes. Imho, no need to waste time of that since I think that using current "Status" column should be enough, I'll try to sort that out this weekend when I have a little bit more free time. I appreciate the offer though. 👍 As far as I can tell a lot of the threads in the original post are now somewhat cleaned apart from a few exceptions which will take a little longer to go through. I've likely revisit them from time to time to see if we've got any new spam waves, though judging by the activity of a lot of them, I suspect whoever has been behind the spam waves have either quit or moved on.
Majority of those threads simply cancel that bumping service when they see that their thread is going nowhere and posts have been deleted constantly day after day. But yeah, it's not a bad idea to revisit the threads occasionally as some of them will attempt the same thing, thinking that they lost the attention.
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With the amount of effort everyone's put in recently, I suspect we'll have another 20k report month ahead of us. Majority of those threads simply cancel that bumping service when they see that their thread is going nowhere and posts have been deleted constantly day after day. But yeah, it's not a bad idea to revisit the threads occasionally as some of them will attempt the same thing, thinking that they lost the attention.
Yeah, some were active fairly recent. Although, I usually just scour threads in the first couple of pages of the Altcoin sections these days, since they're at least getting actively viewed by a large amount of users. I will revisit from time to time though, as it's much more manageable to catch them early, and remove their posts bit by bit, rather than having to report, and delete thousands of reports. I appreciate the effort from everyone here though, we've probably removed over 5000 posts in the last few days/weeks. That's probably completely underestimating the real amount too.
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Heads-up: Since my lat post I cleaned the following topics: Cleaned both - 343 reports. First topic was already cleand (I reported just 1 post from it). Second topic was a monster one, with 28 pages and I had to report 342 posts from it. Actually I had to report all 556 posts from it, but a mod was ahead of me and started to delete the topic posts before I had time to report them all ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Now it seems the topic was entirely trashed. Great job mod! Having these 2 threads cleaned as well I finished cleaning everything from page 2 of current topic. Now I am at page 1. Cleaned all 3 topics - 522 reports. MASS was by far the most difficult topic to clean from I cleaned so far. First of all, it had 32 pages. Second of all, it was full with both good and spam posts, made also not only by newbies. I had to spend several hours to read carefully each post... Many were at the limit between spam and offering a useful information... It was horror to clean this topic! Absolutely horror! ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I reported 468 posts from MASS topic. Cleaned - 21 reports. Cleaned - 35 reports. Both threads as previously cleaned as I had to report only 8 posts. I could not take care of this, as it's written in Russian. Maybe a Russian speaker can take a look. Here I cleaned second topic - 26 reports. Coco's topic was deleted, as I stated above, but the old one still exists and it has 103 pages. Emirex has 115 pages. I will leave for later these ones, together with the topic mentioned at post 12 (Modul topic), lattest one having 251 pages. After I finish cleaning all remaining topics I will take care of these 3 monster topics too. This thread was also cleaned, as I had to report just 1 post. All in all, I reported 845 posts from all these topics! The only topics remaining to be cleaned (together with the 3 ones mentioned above) are: Crybet, the one from post 6 and the ones from post 3 (four topics), meaning a total of 9 topics. They may seem few, but they have 592 pages and more than 11.800 posts to be checked ![](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/afro.gif)
I'll try to sort that out this weekend when I have a little bit more free time. I appreciate the offer though. 👍 Roger that ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) In case you need any kind of help, please let me know.
With the amount of effort everyone's put in recently, I suspect we'll have another 20k report month ahead of us. [...] I appreciate the effort from everyone here though, we've probably removed over 5000 posts in the last few days/weeks. That's probably completely underestimating the real amount too. At the end of December (around Christmas) I had 8032 good reports. Now I have 22.327 and 328 pending to be handled. And on January 1st I had 13.737 good reports. Therefore in the last days we certainly cleaned more than 5000 ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Yeah, some were active fairly recent [...] I will revisit from time to time though I also intend to to a double check over all topics after I finish passing through the remaining ones -- just to make sure I reported everything and, in case some are still active (the ones mentioned from December to present could be active) to re-clean them
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January 21, 2022, 04:08:09 PM |
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At the end of December (around Christmas) I had 8032 good reports. Now I have 22.327 and 328 pending to be handled. And on January 1st I had 13.737 good reports. Therefore in the last days we certainly cleaned more than 5000 ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Sweet, I know I've probably handled around 4000/5000 of the reports in the last week, obviously other moderators have pitched in too, but I didn't know the exact number. Going by those numbers though I expect we could potentially hit 30k reports in this months period, which would be quite something. Most of the crap from these threads have been cleaned though, so I expect this will be slowing down in the coming months. Cheers for the help though, definitely feels quite therapeutic to clean up the forum, doesn't it?
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I am posting this here even though I think they didn't hire bumping service, but since we have forum staff active here I thought it won't hurt to share it here. So, while browsing altcoin section I noticed some weird activity in 🔥✅[ANN]🔥 PDX Coin | Global Payments and Digital Banking Platform & App thread. It didn't quite look like standard bumping service activity, so I checked their bounty thread and saw that as a part of their signature campaign, participants have to write at least 3 posts in their own ANN. @Welsh This is a clear violation of the rule found in altcoin section, right, which says that " Incentivising posting within one or more threads is not allowed".
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