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...as far as I can see the same accounts were active in the other threads you specified. I assume the report yielded results or are recognized as alt accounts by a previously banned user.
Yep, mods are banning those sock puppet shilling accounts regularly but problem is that "marketing agencies" (most likely Vitor Services) are using newbie accounts and we all know that they can make as many as possible of those, which they are doing. What still surprises me is that they keep using older newbie accounts, that they awake when needed instead of brand new ones.
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What still surprises me is that they keep using older newbie accounts, that they awake when needed instead of brand new ones. If I have to guess: that's because older Newbie accounts are less obvious to detect as bump spammers, and it's easier to activate accounts "from stock" than it is to create new accounts (with captcha and possible units of evil). So in quiet times they have prepared a bunch of accounts without units of evil, and whenever a "buyer" needs them they just open a can of worms Newbie accounts.
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October 25, 2021, 12:12:03 AM Last edit: October 30, 2021, 11:53:34 PM by decodx |
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What still surprises me is that they keep using older newbie accounts, that they awake when needed instead of brand new ones. If I have to guess: that's because older Newbie accounts are less obvious to detect as bump spammers, and it's easier to activate accounts "from stock" than it is to create new accounts (with captcha and possible units of evil). So in quiet times they have prepared a bunch of accounts without units of evil, and whenever a "buyer" needs them they just open a can of worms Newbie accounts. This means they will run out of worms in the can sooner or later. edit: Yes, I understand what you mean, LoyceV. A bunch of new accounts are created every day, but at some point they must run out of the old accounts they prepared without units of evil.
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This means they will run out of worms in the can sooner or later. Unlikely. See how many usernames were created in the last 2 hours: I'm pretty sure some of them will be used for bump spam later on. Bump spammers could even have outsourced account creation and buy them in bulk.
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This means they will run out of worms in the can sooner or later.
They won't, as it costs exactly 0 to make new account. They have so many accounts at their disposal that even if you just tag them, they will ditch those and start using new ones. They won't be stopped by that evil fee thing as well, as they are professional spammers that are doing this for years and will easily find new clean IP to make more. Rinse and repeat as long there's interest in what they offer. I'm pretty sure some of them will be used for bump spam later on. Bump spammers could even have outsourced account creation and buy them in bulk.
That could be the case as well, as I saw Vitor Services using newbie accounts created back in 2012/2013 and awoken in 2020/2021, which made me think that they are buying those accounts from someone.
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October 25, 2021, 11:53:49 AM Last edit: October 25, 2021, 12:03:59 PM by Csmiami |
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I just found this thread, I've always used the Spambusters one the be reporting this sort of things, but since it has lost a lot of tracking from what it used to be, I rather ask here before keeping on bumping it. Is this intended for only ANNs using paid bumps, or any altcoin project shilling their name over the forum is counted as such? Should the case be the second, I've come across 2 projects using the same sentence structures with many different accounts promoting (so far) 2 projects: BondexYouCloutI'd normally simply post this Spambusters, but I rather post it somewhere it's going to be seen to try have more eyes on the lookout Edit: going for the third Nftyplay
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Is this intended for only ANNs using paid bumps, or any altcoin project shilling their name over the forum is counted as such? Yeah, I focused on ANN threads that hired bumping service and are doing that inside their own thread. Should the case be the second, I've come across 2 projects using the same sentence structures with many different accounts promoting (so far) 2 projects: BondexYouCloutI'd normally simply post this Spambusters, but I rather post it somewhere it's going to be seen to try have more eyes on the lookout Edit: going for the third NftyplayThose project are obviously using shillers as well, but imho this type of "guerrilla marketing" looks much better than standard mindless shilling inside the ANN thread, and might be even effective if done properly, as I've seen similar things in various Telegram groups.
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Would you guys say this is using a bumping service? Most of the replies are one liner basic/generic questions. Most accounts have close to 0 activity too
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These are just a couple of accounts, but they were registered at the same period, and they just woke up to bump and ANN. I think they are just getting started ANN - IXFIBumping accounts 1. Warison185Registered on 3/2/2018 and then woke up on 10/26/2021 to bump the thread 2. MedicamentRegistered on 3/1/2018 and then woke up on 10/27/2021 to bump the same thread
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Hey Rikafip, I've found a few more threads to add to your list that use bumping services:
Since I have a rule that I am not adding threads retroactively (and I see that those two threads are not active anymore), I won't add them to the list. Reason is simple; there are so many threads that were being bumped in the past and if I add each and every I ever come across, list would probably be five times bigger than it is now. Yep, that's how it starts and we can expect more shitposts soon.
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Another bumping service. Yesterday I reported on many of the posts this company makes until I realized it is a farm. To avoid being discovered, they also write their posts not only in the announcement threads but also on regular topics. But almost all of their messages are one-line shilling. What struck me was that every account, except for one, had one merit. Somehow, magically, they managed to get these merits from Ratimov. ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif) Considering that yesterday about 100 of the messages were deleted by the moderators, I wonder why they could be given merits. [ANN] 🐶🐶🐶 DeFido 🐶🐶🐶 Meme Coin [ANN] 💿💿💿 Inery Blockchain 💿💿💿 Data Storage [ANN] Verlux - First Decentralized Cross-Chain NFT Marketplace [ANN] 📈📈📈 Agile Finance 📈📈📈 Lending & Decentralized Swap Finance [ANN] ⚡⚡⚡ AutoBitco ⚡⚡⚡ The safest P2P trading platform [ANN] ⚡⚡⚡ CSPro Chain ⚡⚡⚡ Feel empowered! [ANN] RavenDex - First lending and decentralized exchange powered by cardano. [ANN] 🌍🌍🌍 Pacific DeFi 🌍🌍🌍 An ecosystem which will unify DeFi landscape [ANN] 💿💿💿 EDAIN 💿💿💿 AI-powered knowledge creation ecosystem Lunafox November 13, 2020, 03:22:16 PM alan228 November 13, 2020, 05:32:50 PM JackieAinsley November 13, 2020, 03:25:28 PM zayika570 November 10, 2020, 04:46:41 PM nikita2020 November 10, 2020, 04:00:37 PM cryptoserega November 10, 2020, 11:26:36 PM Bertyda November 11, 2020, 12:36:51 AM i8v8i November 16, 2020, 01:22:00 PM SDKmaster November 16, 2020, 01:17:17 PM Garsipop November 17, 2020, 05:12:16 PM TmHsHel November 17, 2020, 05:14:46 PM altixz May 22, 2021, 01:13:31 PM jorjeIII February 03, 2021, 09:51:53 PM https://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?to=jorjeIII&from=Ratimov 7/23/2021 8:25:21 AM https://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?to=Lunafox&from=Ratimov 7/23/2021 8:25:57 AM https://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?to=JackieAinsley&from=Ratimov 7/23/2021 8:20:56 AM https://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?to=Garsipop&from=Ratimov 7/23/2021 8:29:47 AM https://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?to=altixz&from=Ratimov 7/23/2021 8:29:04 AM https://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?to=TmHsHel&from=Ratimov 7/23/2021 8:27:19 AM https://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?to=i8v8i&from=Ratimov 7/25/2021 9:06:55 AM https://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?to=alan228&from=Ratimov 7/25/2021 8:55:11 AM https://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?to=nikita2020&from=Ratimov 7/27/2021 11:23:45 AM https://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?to=Bertyda&from=Ratimov 8/4/2021 6:56:48 PM https://bpip.org/smerit.aspx?to=cryptoserega&from=Ratimov 8/22/2021 8:42:10 AM
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Another bumping service. Yesterday I reported on many of the posts this company makes until I realized it is a farm. To avoid being discovered, they also write their posts not only in the announcement threads but also on regular topics. But almost all of their messages are one-line shilling. Nice find. And yeah, those are a little bit better than an average bumping service as they took some effort in appearing like a regular members since they wrote in general threads outside altcoin section, which is something that sock puppet accounts usually don't bother with. What struck me was that every account, except for one, had one merit. Somehow, magically, they managed to get these merits from Ratimov. ![Shocked](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/shocked.gif) Hm yeah, that is weird coincidence. At first I though that maybe they got merit from one of his merit giveaway threads, but I don't see that. For example, Lunafox got merit from Ratimov on July 27th for the post that was written on March 27th), and I don't see him applying to any merit giveaway thread around that time, or I simply can't find it. This is even weirder; those 5 got merit from Ratimov in under 9 minutes, for posts written several months before, across 5 different threads. How the hell did he find their posts, since they were so scattered, assuming they didn't apply in merit giveaway thread?
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-- This is even weirder; those 5 got merit from Ratimov in under 9 minutes, for posts written several months before, across 5 different threads. How the hell did he find their posts, since they were so scattered, assuming they didn't apply in merit giveaway thread?
All of the post (not only those 5) follow however the same pattern: a small text explanation+social media link. But even if it's a pattern, there must be thousands of posts like that in the forum, so what the hell
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This is even weirder; those 5 got merit from Ratimov in under 9 minutes, for posts written several months before, across 5 different threads. How the hell did he find their posts, since they were so scattered, assuming they didn't apply in merit giveaway thread?
Having seen this post in the past, I thought that the competition is not only in terms of rank but also in the generosity of distribution from sources of merit. Therefore, it is not surprising to see that the first merit can be easily given to a beginner, thereby being the first in the generosity competition. But of course, it's just motivation, I understand. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Aiming for the first position. We have seen the algorithm is quite weird in his output, so never say never. Yes, the algorithm presents surprises, in all respects I should have taken 1st position the month before last, but the formula had other plans in this regard. Well, first position is a good target, just get in line. First, I will take the first position, and then you. ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
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All of the post (not only those 5) follow however the same pattern: a small text explanation+social media link. But even if it's a pattern, there must be thousands of posts like that in the forum, so what the hell
Yep, those are basically shitposts that doesn't look any better than thousands of others. Just take for example this post by JackieAinsley for which got his merit from Ratimov. In this post he promotes some shitcoin failed project that is allegedly giving Ferrari to one lucky IDO participant. What's interesting about this DragonBite project that is being promoted in that post is that it has ANN here on bitcointalk, and you can see several other members of that bumping group writing there. ⚡️⚡️⚡️DragonBite ⚡️⚡️⚡️ Platform for loyalty market
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I hope I would be wrong and we observe an increase of interest to forum from new people, but, the appearance of silly topics by newbies make me think they would become shillers in a future. Today I've noticed, that a bunch of newbies with registration date morning of November 04 created lots of topics in Altcoin Discussion. They have common nicknames - "name + number". That cant be a coincidence. Check this out: Helen_1Marie701Monica301Julia205Eugene8@Leslie012Barbra!Jason06Keith010James68Charles310Thomas2205Donald250We should follow them, as one day they will start to shill some crap. P.S. I expect more newbie from this shilling farm to create topics today, so the list would be greater. P.P.S. They wont become bounty hunting farm, because they could have started posting reports directly from creation date.
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