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Title: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: jmigdlc99 on August 31, 2020, 09:04:38 AM
The new Nvidia 30 series GPU specs have been confirmed. Not sure if there are any leaks as to hashing power, but are you guys buying? To mine with?

RTX 3090
5248 cores
24GB DDR6X
19.5 gbps
350W

RTX 3080
4352 cores
10GB DDR6X
19 gbps
320W

It's been said time again but i feel like it's important to reiterate: Do your research - don't get into mining because of the hype.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: Squezzi55 on August 31, 2020, 01:11:10 PM
I'm not buying until someone gives a try and drop the hashing power but I feel it won't the much from the hashing of GTX 2080ti but let's wait and see


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: Metroid on August 31, 2020, 01:36:59 PM
It's been said time again but i feel like it's important to reiterate: Do your research! Don't get into mining because of the hype.

I think nvidia and amd is pumping eth so they know they will sell every one of their gpus for whatever price they will ask for, eliminate gpus like rx 580 and 1070 and pave the way for amazing returns for their new gpus. Idiots will buy 3080 for 2000~3000 usd, idiots back in 2018 bought volta titans https://www.amazon.com/NVIDIA-TITAN-VOLTA-12GB-VIDEO/dp/B078G1VHYN for 3500 usd for mining.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: waggy459 on August 31, 2020, 02:37:58 PM
I've jotted down some quick napkin math.  Hashrate isn't necessarily perfectly linear to total memory bandwidth, but it is a somewhat reasonable analogue to give round numbers.

RTX 3090* ~935-1008 GBps
RTX 3080* 760 GBps
RX 5700 XT - 480 GBps  -  58 mh/s (eth)
RTX 2080ti - 616 GBps - 52 mh/s (eth)
GTX 1660 super - 336 GBps - 30 mh/s (eth)
RX 580 - 256 GBps - 30 mh/s (eth)

I think it would be somewhat reasonable to take a guess at 3080 hashrates in the 60s or low 70s and 3090 in the 90s.  They are neither low tdp nor cheap, so to me this doesn't represent a value proposition.  But ymmv.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: aesma on August 31, 2020, 03:56:57 PM
The prices are missing. Personally I'm looking at these cards as a player first and foremost. If mining makes economic sense I might mine when I'm not playing, but I doubt it. Cooling isn't an issue as I watercool.

I expect the prices to be eye-watering though. Let's hope AMD can get back in the high end, high performance game soon.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: waggy459 on August 31, 2020, 04:14:41 PM
The prices are missing. Personally I'm looking at these cards as a player first and foremost. If mining makes economic sense I might mine when I'm not playing, but I doubt it. Cooling isn't an issue as I watercool.

I expect the prices to be eye-watering though. Let's hope AMD can get back in the high end, high performance game soon.

From multiple leaks:

Quote
GeForce RTX 3090 $1399, RTX 3080: $799, RTX 3070: $599, RTX 3060: $399


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: MATHReX on August 31, 2020, 07:54:08 PM
The leaked prices are just the baseline.
Once, OEMs get there hands-on, the prices will be pretty more than that.
Not to mention, miner updates to support new-gen GPUs and such before any definitive testing and true capability of the card can be determined.
So, It's a sure waiting game till then.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: black1ight on September 01, 2020, 03:46:22 AM
Most probably nvidia will lock the bios and make it less efficient for mining. . We need compute drivers for nvidia gaming cards. . :-)


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: PerfectCircle on September 01, 2020, 08:23:49 AM
It's been said time again but i feel like it's important to reiterate: Do your research! Don't get into mining because of the hype.

I think nvidia and amd is pumping eth so they know they will sell every one of their gpus for whatever price they will ask for, eliminate gpus like rx 580 and 1070 and pave the way for amazing returns for their new gpus. Idiots will buy 3080 for 2000~3000 usd, idiots back in 2018 bought volta titans https://www.amazon.com/NVIDIA-TITAN-VOLTA-12GB-VIDEO/dp/B078G1VHYN for 3500 usd for mining.
Why called them idiots? I'm sure every miners buy GPUs based on their mining calculations, what makes you think they never make back their ROI using Titan GPU to mine? People don't just buy without doing research first


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: PerfectCircle on September 01, 2020, 08:27:42 AM
I've jotted down some quick napkin math.  Hashrate isn't necessarily perfectly linear to total memory bandwidth, but it is a somewhat reasonable analogue to give round numbers.

RTX 3090* ~935-1008 GBps
RTX 3080* 760 GBps
RX 5700 XT - 480 GBps  -  58 mh/s (eth)
RTX 2080ti - 616 GBps - 52 mh/s (eth)
GTX 1660 super - 336 GBps - 30 mh/s (eth)
RX 580 - 256 GBps - 30 mh/s (eth)

I think it would be somewhat reasonable to take a guess at 3080 hashrates in the 60s or low 70s and 3090 in the 90s.  They are neither low tdp nor cheap, so to me this doesn't represent a value proposition.  But ymmv.
It will be better to buy two GTX 1660 super that will give you 60MH/S than buying RTX3080 than will only produce 60+ MH/S for insane price, I'm guessing the price will start around 2800$ or more, this can get me 7 to 8 GTX 1660 super 😎


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: AFox on September 01, 2020, 06:20:09 PM
https://i.imgur.com/zAjKUwC.png

https://i.imgur.com/vpP7wIx.png

https://i.imgur.com/ww6fLOT.png

https://i.imgur.com/8BGhWPz.png


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: AFox on September 01, 2020, 06:54:33 PM
I've jotted down some quick napkin math.  Hashrate isn't necessarily perfectly linear to total memory bandwidth, but it is a somewhat reasonable analogue to give round numbers.

RTX 3090* ~935-1008 GBps
RTX 3080* 760 GBps
RX 5700 XT - 480 GBps  -  58 mh/s (eth)
RTX 2080ti - 616 GBps - 52 mh/s (eth)
GTX 1660 super - 336 GBps - 30 mh/s (eth)
RX 580 - 256 GBps - 30 mh/s (eth)

I think it would be somewhat reasonable to take a guess at 3080 hashrates in the 60s or low 70s and 3090 in the 90s.  They are neither low tdp nor cheap, so to me this doesn't represent a value proposition.  But ymmv.

Source for the RTX 3000 card : https://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3070-8-gb-official-launch-price-specs-performance/ (https://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3070-8-gb-official-launch-price-specs-performance/)

RTX 3090          - 936 Gbps - 75~80mh/s (eth) ??
RTX 3080          - 760 Gbps - 63~67mh/s (eth) ??
RTX 3070          - 512 GBps - 40~45mh/s (eth) ??
RX 5700 XT       - 480 GBps - 58 mh/s (eth)
RTX 2080ti        - 616 GBps - 52 mh/s (eth)
GTX 1660 super - 336 GBps - 30 mh/s (eth)
RX 580             - 256 GBps - 30 mh/s (eth)

If that's the case, it looks like sticking with RX 5700 XT would be better.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: Beyerd17 on September 01, 2020, 08:17:03 PM
Impressive new 3000 Nvidia cards. Double the effect of the 2000 series? Also the highest cards draw massive amounts of power (use them as heaters during the winter time in the colder parts of the world)? Would be exiting to see if the big navi Nvidia killer actually kills this launch???


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: Metroid on September 01, 2020, 11:06:43 PM
RTX 3090          - 936 Gbps - 75~80mh/s (eth) ??
RTX 3080          - 760 Gbps - 63~67mh/s (eth) ??
RTX 3070          - 512 GBps - 40~45mh/s (eth) ??
RX 5700 XT       - 480 GBps - 58 mh/s (eth)
RTX 2080ti        - 616 GBps - 52 mh/s (eth)
GTX 1660 super - 336 GBps - 30 mh/s (eth)
RX 580             - 256 GBps - 30 mh/s (eth)

If they find a way to replaced factory timings on the 3080, it could be as high as radeon vii, 90mh/s, default will be around 65 mh/s. If big navi comes with hbm which will not be as rumours suggest then it would be a killer, around 140 mh/s.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: geck on September 01, 2020, 11:07:04 PM
i wonder if the gddr6x ram will need a "pill" like the gddr5x did to perform well.
The 3070 looks like an interesting card if it can hash as well as a 2080ti for £500


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: Metroid on September 01, 2020, 11:10:26 PM
i wonder if the gddr6x ram will need a "pill" like the gddr5x did to perform well.
The 3070 looks like an interesting card if it can hash as well as a 2080ti for £500

nvidia gimped 3070, the only card to must have at moment is 3080. Yeah, it will have the pill but like everything else, public release will take time, will most likely be for only friends and relatives ehhe


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: waywoos on September 02, 2020, 12:26:28 AM
with requiring an addition power plug i cant stop thinking it will be power hungry.
liking my 5700xt at 57.5 at under 120w.
but we shall see


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: jmigdlc99 on September 02, 2020, 02:34:17 AM
I've jotted down some quick napkin math.  Hashrate isn't necessarily perfectly linear to total memory bandwidth, but it is a somewhat reasonable analogue to give round numbers.

RTX 3090* ~935-1008 GBps
RTX 3080* 760 GBps
RX 5700 XT - 480 GBps  -  58 mh/s (eth)
RTX 2080ti - 616 GBps - 52 mh/s (eth)
GTX 1660 super - 336 GBps - 30 mh/s (eth)
RX 580 - 256 GBps - 30 mh/s (eth)

I think it would be somewhat reasonable to take a guess at 3080 hashrates in the 60s or low 70s and 3090 in the 90s.  They are neither low tdp nor cheap, so to me this doesn't represent a value proposition.  But ymmv.

Source for the RTX 3000 card : https://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3070-8-gb-official-launch-price-specs-performance/ (https://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3070-8-gb-official-launch-price-specs-performance/)

RTX 3090          - 936 Gbps - 75~80mh/s (eth) ??
RTX 3080          - 760 Gbps - 63~67mh/s (eth) ??
RTX 3070          - 512 GBps - 40~45mh/s (eth) ??
RX 5700 XT       - 480 GBps - 58 mh/s (eth)
RTX 2080ti        - 616 GBps - 52 mh/s (eth)
GTX 1660 super - 336 GBps - 30 mh/s (eth)
RX 580             - 256 GBps - 30 mh/s (eth)

If that's the case, it looks like sticking with RX 5700 XT would be better.

We can't really just linearly correlate hashing power like that. Factors such as the new GDDR6X compared to the previous GDDR5 versions could offer a boost to hash power and much more, or not. If i had to guess the hashing power boost should be much better.

Anyway i'm convinced to get a 3080 with the new price range. At least one.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: Beyerd17 on September 02, 2020, 05:52:36 AM
with requiring an addition power plug i cant stop thinking it will be power hungry.
liking my 5700xt at 57.5 at under 120w.
but we shall see

They sure are very power hungry indeed. AMD used to get a lot of hate and critisism for using a ton of power, people used to laugh and said you could use the 290x's as heaters during wintertime. With these new 3000 Nvidia series maybe people will start telling the same jokes about 3080 and 3090.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: aesma on September 02, 2020, 09:23:12 AM
The 3080 seems reasonably priced for the performance. All who sold their 2080 in the last few months have made the right call, now the 2080 just lost a lot of value. I'm talking gaming performance here, for mining we shall wait for some tests/optimizations.

These prices also make me think that nvidia expects a strong showing from AMD so that's a good thing, too.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: niksdt101 on September 02, 2020, 11:24:51 AM
I currently have RX480's in 2 Rigs of 4 each , which already got past the ROI mark . AMD Big Navi will be the next step for me but these 3070 are tempting , as by the time bignavi comes to consumer market , i guess ETH may swtich to POS.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: philipma1957 on September 02, 2020, 03:08:33 PM
I currently have RX480's in 2 Rigs of 4 each , which already got past the ROI mark . AMD Big Navi will be the next step for me but these 3070 are tempting , as by the time bignavi comes to consumer market , i guess ETH may swtich to POS.

Eth has been switching to pos since 2017.

Once it switches it will die.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: SalvajeX on September 02, 2020, 03:21:15 PM
I believe once Eth switches, GPU mining the way it exists today will be gone.
Anyway to the topic, not sure about Hashrate but these cards are monsters, good move from Nvidia.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: waggy459 on September 02, 2020, 03:25:05 PM
I currently have RX480's in 2 Rigs of 4 each , which already got past the ROI mark . AMD Big Navi will be the next step for me but these 3070 are tempting , as by the time bignavi comes to consumer market , i guess ETH may swtich to POS.

Eth has been switching to pos since 2017.

Once it switches it will die.

I don't really understand why you say it'll die on POS.  It won't be the only one having done POS, and IMO if you read on the work going on at that end I do think there is some very weighty legitimacy in the project.  I do think if a person is "in crypto" it makes sense to have your eye on not only mining, but also staking, liquidity and validating.  It's all part of the system and you can make money on all parts.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: chafer99 on September 02, 2020, 06:26:29 PM
I think, today already its not very likely that ETH switch to POS (same as assuming that Bitcoin switch to POS).


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: jsanzsp on September 02, 2020, 06:55:52 PM

I hope they will be on sale soon in stores, this way the prices of the 5700 will be lowered a lot. AMD WILL ALWAYS BE BETTER FOR MINING


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: JayDDee on September 02, 2020, 07:10:19 PM
I think, today already its not very likely that ETH switch to POS (same as assuming that Bitcoin switch to POS).

Except that Bitcoin never said it would go POS. Maybe it's a perpetual threat to keep miners interested.

Anyways back on topic...

The VRAM size gap between the 3090 & 3080 way out of line with the cuda core count difference.
I wonder why.

Not an issue for mining but the 3090 is the only one that supports SLI but it's a 3 slot card, leaves no room in the case
for ventilation.

Ampere uses Cuda 11 and compute 8 but I don't see anything that helps mining. Significant software improvements
look unlikely.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: sxemini on September 02, 2020, 07:43:58 PM
I've jotted down some quick napkin math.  Hashrate isn't necessarily perfectly linear to total memory bandwidth, but it is a somewhat reasonable analogue to give round numbers.

RTX 3090* ~935-1008 GBps
RTX 3080* 760 GBps
RX 5700 XT - 480 GBps  -  58 mh/s (eth)
RTX 2080ti - 616 GBps - 52 mh/s (eth)
GTX 1660 super - 336 GBps - 30 mh/s (eth)
RX 580 - 256 GBps - 30 mh/s (eth)

I think it would be somewhat reasonable to take a guess at 3080 hashrates in the 60s or low 70s and 3090 in the 90s.  They are neither low tdp nor cheap, so to me this doesn't represent a value proposition.  But ymmv.

Source for the RTX 3000 card : https://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3070-8-gb-official-launch-price-specs-performance/ (https://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3070-8-gb-official-launch-price-specs-performance/)

RTX 3090          - 936 Gbps - 75~80mh/s (eth) ??
RTX 3080          - 760 Gbps - 63~67mh/s (eth) ??
RTX 3070          - 512 GBps - 40~45mh/s (eth) ??
RX 5700 XT       - 480 GBps - 58 mh/s (eth)
RTX 2080ti        - 616 GBps - 52 mh/s (eth)
GTX 1660 super - 336 GBps - 30 mh/s (eth)
RX 580             - 256 GBps - 30 mh/s (eth)

If that's the case, it looks like sticking with RX 5700 XT would be better.

We can't really just linearly correlate hashing power like that. Factors such as the new GDDR6X compared to the previous GDDR5 versions could offer a boost to hash power and much more, or not. If i had to guess the hashing power boost should be much better.

Anyway i'm convinced to get a 3080 with the new price range. At least one.

GDDR6X is the same thing as GDDR5X in the past, it will not boost anything, can only clock higher than GDDR6 and thats it.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: Beyerd17 on September 02, 2020, 09:20:54 PM
The 3080 seems reasonably priced for the performance. All who sold their 2080 in the last few months have made the right call, now the 2080 just lost a lot of value. I'm talking gaming performance here, for mining we shall wait for some tests/optimizations.

These prices also make me think that nvidia expects a strong showing from AMD so that's a good thing, too.

Yes, I believe so as well, there was talk from AMD of the Nvidia killer, so perhaps Nvidia is gearing up with top performance from the 3000 series to meet the threat from Big Navi. Will be exiting to see AMD's answer to this surprising big move in performance from the 3080. Competition is great.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: ZeeeN on September 02, 2020, 10:19:54 PM
rtx 3090 have NVIDIA CUDA® Cores   10496  maybe mining other algo is better than eth?


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: Beyerd17 on September 03, 2020, 11:37:05 AM

I hope they will be on sale soon in stores, this way the prices of the 5700 will be lowered a lot. AMD WILL ALWAYS BE BETTER FOR MINING

That will depend on what coin you want to mine. AMD is more efficient on some algos, while Nvidia gpu's are more efficient on other algos. I've already seen a lot of mining hardware come down in price on Ebay and other sites. Right now you can buy a used 2080ti for around 500 dollars, that is a lot lower than just recently.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: aesma on September 03, 2020, 02:30:09 PM
I think, today already its not very likely that ETH switch to POS (same as assuming that Bitcoin switch to POS).

Except that Bitcoin never said it would go POS. Maybe it's a perpetual threat to keep miners interested.

Anyways back on topic...

The VRAM size gap between the 3090 & 3080 way out of line with the cuda core count difference.
I wonder why.

Yeah it's always annoying, although you pay the price for that VRAM. But 10GB should be enough to play in 4K with all details, having a bit extra would be nice (12GB or 16GB), but I don't really see the point of 24GB, for gaming at least.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: Metroid on September 03, 2020, 09:35:42 PM
Yeah it's always annoying, although you pay the price for that VRAM. But 10GB should be enough to play in 4K with all details, having a bit extra would be nice (12GB or 16GB), but I don't really see the point of 24GB, for gaming at least.

The 3090 is targeted at AI ie, deep learning..., if for gaming 24gb makes no sense, not bad to have but no point in having for games that amount right now, 16gb should be the normal for 2020, 2016 was 8gb, only 16gb makes sense for a flagship like rtx 3080 in this time and age. It seems micron is having a hard time to produce enough gddrx6 for it, they dont want to sacrifice the ones on 3090 and want the 3080 to take the hit, I guess the 3090 has a higher margin of profit, so the good gddrx6 memory modules will all go to 3090 and the leftover to 3080. I guess nvidia will launch a 3080 super later on with 16gb once things get to hard mass production at micron factories.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: JayDDee on September 03, 2020, 10:04:20 PM
Yeah it's always annoying, although you pay the price for that VRAM. But 10GB should be enough to play in 4K with all details, having a bit extra would be nice (12GB or 16GB), but I don't really see the point of 24GB, for gaming at least.

The 3090 is targeted at AI ie, deep learning..., if for gaming 24gb makes no sense, not bad to have but no point in having for games that amount right now, 16gb should be the normal for 2020, 2016 was 8gb, only 16gb makes sense for a flagship like rtx 3080 in this time and age. It seems micron is having a hard time to produce enough gddrx6 for it, they dont want to sacrifice the ones on 3090 and want the 3080 to take the hit, I guess the 3090 has a higher margin of profit, so the good gddrx6 memory modules will all go to 3090 and the leftover to 3080. I guess nvidia will launch a 3080 super later on with 16gb once things get to hard mass production at micron factories.

I thought the 3090 was targetted at 8K gaming. Maybe the big VRAM is related to SLI support. My understanding is that only
one GPU's VRAM is used in SLI.

It's also interesting that the 3080 is marketed as the flagship suggesting the 3090 is experimental or special.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: Metroid on September 03, 2020, 10:20:34 PM
I thought the 3090 was targetted at 8K gaming. Maybe the big VRAM is related to SLI support. My understanding is that only
one GPU's VRAM is used in SLI.

It's also interesting that the 3080 is marketed as the flagship suggesting the 3090 is experimental or special.

Yes, only one vram is used while on SLI and the 3090 is the only gpu that can do SLI, reason they said 8k gaming at 60 fps but majority of these cards are for deep learning, reason they left the 3080 for dead, people would rather buy the 3080 16gb plus for deep learning, so basically what the did here is, want deep learning? 3090 is the only card to do it, want 8k gaming? 3090 is the only gpu to do cause sli support, and lets price the 3090, 2 x the 3080. I believe the 3090 is not even 50% faster than the 3080, more like 25% more performance and that is going overboard with it.

Looking back the last x90 we had was the GeForce GTX 690, price $1000 in 2012.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: arielbit on September 04, 2020, 04:55:13 AM
Yeah it's always annoying, although you pay the price for that VRAM. But 10GB should be enough to play in 4K with all details, having a bit extra would be nice (12GB or 16GB), but I don't really see the point of 24GB, for gaming at least.

The 3090 is targeted at AI ie, deep learning..., if for gaming 24gb makes no sense, not bad to have but no point in having for games that amount right now, 16gb should be the normal for 2020, 2016 was 8gb, only 16gb makes sense for a flagship like rtx 3080 in this time and age. It seems micron is having a hard time to produce enough gddrx6 for it, they dont want to sacrifice the ones on 3090 and want the 3080 to take the hit, I guess the 3090 has a higher margin of profit, so the good gddrx6 memory modules will all go to 3090 and the leftover to 3080. I guess nvidia will launch a 3080 super later on with 16gb once things get to hard mass production at micron factories.

or..... 3080ti/super is an ace under nvidia's sleeve, to be released if amd managed to pull off a 3080 killer hehe


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: arielbit on September 04, 2020, 05:10:04 AM
Yeah it's always annoying, although you pay the price for that VRAM. But 10GB should be enough to play in 4K with all details, having a bit extra would be nice (12GB or 16GB), but I don't really see the point of 24GB, for gaming at least.

The 3090 is targeted at AI ie, deep learning..., if for gaming 24gb makes no sense, not bad to have but no point in having for games that amount right now, 16gb should be the normal for 2020, 2016 was 8gb, only 16gb makes sense for a flagship like rtx 3080 in this time and age. It seems micron is having a hard time to produce enough gddrx6 for it, they dont want to sacrifice the ones on 3090 and want the 3080 to take the hit, I guess the 3090 has a higher margin of profit, so the good gddrx6 memory modules will all go to 3090 and the leftover to 3080. I guess nvidia will launch a 3080 super later on with 16gb once things get to hard mass production at micron factories.

monitor size, screen resolution  plus other graphics quality config on PC games tends to eat a lot of vram, my 1080ti 11gb ram gets filled when i max out game settings with my 24 inch 1900x1200 resolution..having ~34 inches monitor will need that 16gb at least, 3080 "10gb" is a teaser, gamers will hate that later on.

1080p gaming is dead, when i played new dawn of far cry, in the hazy/hallucinogen part of the game, the difference with 1080p vs 1440p and 4k with enemy visibility is huge.

10gb of vram for mining, i think it will be fine for quite a long time unless there is some mining software tweak of new algorithms and/or existing algorithms that will hash a lot more when more vram (greater than 10gb) is utilized.

besides, check this out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGzsYCRMVu4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EGzsYCRMVu4) doom eternal 4k gaming, the fps dips as low as 110fps. for gamers that uses and want a 144 hz and above monitor and fps that does not dip below 144fps (hz and fps in sync), 3090 is the answer.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: aesma on September 04, 2020, 06:23:18 AM
According to this article : https://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/far-cry-new-dawn-pc-graphics-performance-benchmark-review,6.html#:~:text=Far%20Cry%20New%20Dawn%20will,the%20upper%20limit%20being%20used.&text=Again%2C%20all%20cards%20consume%20roughly%20the%20same%20amount%20of%20VRAM.

Far Cry New Dawn is very far from filling 11GB, not even half that, in 4K.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: arielbit on September 04, 2020, 06:59:07 AM
According to this article : https://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/far-cry-new-dawn-pc-graphics-performance-benchmark-review,6.html#:~:text=Far%20Cry%20New%20Dawn%20will,the%20upper%20limit%20being%20used.&text=Again%2C%20all%20cards%20consume%20roughly%20the%20same%20amount%20of%20VRAM.

Far Cry New Dawn is very far from filling 11GB, not even half that, in 4K.

i didn't specifically say far cry about the vram size issue, far cry is about 1080p vs 1440p and 4k gaming

the textures (other game settings that eats vram besides resolution) in resident evil 2 is a good example LOL

https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1141516-wtf-my-2080-ti-doesn%E2%80%99t-have-enough-vram-for-resident-evil-2-%3F/ (https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/1141516-wtf-my-2080-ti-doesn%E2%80%99t-have-enough-vram-for-resident-evil-2-%3F/)

other games, if you google can consume 7-9gb vram, that's 2017-2019. upcoming new games can easily double that, so 16gb is the sweet spot for gpu graphics.

the 3080ti or 3080 super (16gb or 20gb) is supposed to be the best bang for the buck but nvidia must be saving that "ace card" for amd release, if amd manages to pull off a 3080 killer.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: Metroid on September 04, 2020, 01:08:20 PM
other games, if you google can consume 7-9gb vram, that's 2017-2019. upcoming new games can easily double that, so 16gb is the sweet spot for gpu graphics.

I have a feeling that is exactly what nvidia is trying to do. I mean most people dont plan to upgrade from their gtx 1080ti because it has 11gb and if they have a 1440 or a 4k monitor, can still even play many games at 4k with that amount of gddr, 10GB for a 3080 this time and age is low, I say that 16gb is minimum for a card like that, even if it was a 12gb would be doable. It's funny, the 3090 24gb x 10gb 3080, nvidia really want people to buy the 3090. Nvidia simply killed the 3080 even before launching it, dead on arrival.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: arielbit on September 04, 2020, 02:36:39 PM
other games, if you google can consume 7-9gb vram, that's 2017-2019. upcoming new games can easily double that, so 16gb is the sweet spot for gpu graphics.

I have a feeling that is exactly what nvidia is trying to do. I mean most people dont plan to upgrade from their gtx 1080ti because it has 11gb and if they have a 1440 or a 4k monitor, can still even play many games at 4k with that amount of gddr, 10GB for a 3080 this time and age is low, I say that 16gb is minimum for a card like that, even if it was a 12gb would be doable. It's funny, the 3090 24gb x 10gb 3080, nvidia really want people to buy the 3090. Nvidia simply killed the 3080 even before launching it, dead on arrival.

3080 maybe good for mining if gddr6x proves it can hash a significant amount better than gddr6, gddr5x, and gddr5. we'll see..

besides there are gamers that can still push up to $ 700  for GPU budget but not for a $ 1500 one. If results shows it is better than 3070 where an extra $100 can justify the upgrade.

then the 3070ti with 16gb of gddr6 will be an upgrade because it can play games that requires more than 10gb so 3070 users will upgrade to 3070ti and 3080 users with 10gb will upgrade to 3080ti with 16gb.

I think 8nm of 3000 series cards will be a long life span generation before the next big breakthrough will come. where nvidia decides to pull off this "8-10gb to be upgraded to 16gb" double sell technique LOL.

anyway if you bought 3080 10gb ($700) and upgrade to 3080ti 16gb ($800) that's, $1500 all in all purchase..just like 3090 price.....me? fuck that shit spare me the trouble I'm getting the 3090 24gb for my main PC hehe

some will say why not wait for the 3080ti then? well..mining profit of 50% ROI (modest estimate) will make your $1500 purchase equal to a $750 card LOL.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: Metroid on September 04, 2020, 07:06:42 PM
other games, if you google can consume 7-9gb vram, that's 2017-2019. upcoming new games can easily double that, so 16gb is the sweet spot for gpu graphics.

I have a feeling that is exactly what nvidia is trying to do. I mean most people dont plan to upgrade from their gtx 1080ti because it has 11gb and if they have a 1440 or a 4k monitor, can still even play many games at 4k with that amount of gddr, 10GB for a 3080 this time and age is low, I say that 16gb is minimum for a card like that, even if it was a 12gb would be doable. It's funny, the 3090 24gb x 10gb 3080, nvidia really want people to buy the 3090. Nvidia simply killed the 3080 even before launching it, dead on arrival.

3080 maybe good for mining if gddr6x proves it can hash a significant amount better than gddr6, gddr5x, and gddr5. we'll see..

besides there are gamers that can still push up to $ 700  for GPU budget but not for a $ 1500 one. If results shows it is better than 3070 where an extra $100 can justify the upgrade.

then the 3070ti with 16gb of gddr6 will be an upgrade because it can play games that requires more than 10gb so 3070 users will upgrade to 3070ti and 3080 users with 10gb will upgrade to 3080ti with 16gb.

I think 8nm of 3000 series cards will be a long life span generation before the next big breakthrough will come. where nvidia decides to pull off this "8-10gb to be upgraded to 16gb" double sell technique LOL.

anyway if you bought 3080 10gb ($700) and upgrade to 3080ti 16gb ($800) that's, $1500 all in all purchase..just like 3090 price.....me? fuck that shit spare me the trouble I'm getting the 3090 24gb for my main PC hehe

some will say why not wait for the 3080ti then? well..mining profit of 50% ROI (modest estimate) will make your $1500 purchase equal to a $750 card LOL.

The 3070ti will have to be a hell of a card, i mean, the 3070 is a disappointment and maybe that is what nvidia intended to do, 3070 raw performance is way behind the 3080, so much so that I think the 3070 is somehow a 3060 super because of the 256bit memory hehe, nvidia launched an early 3060 super hehe and that is the 3070 ehhe, the 3070ti might be the real 3070, looking back 2016, there was a gtx 1070 256 bit and the 1080 256 bit too, 1070 was clearly the only gpu to have, nvidia killed the 1080 on arrival, now they've chosen to kill the 3070 on arrival too hehe, if wasn't for the 320 bit memory and amazing raw performance of the 3080, that would be dead of arrival too, can still use it for a year or 2, depending the games you play and the monitor you have, I myself have a 4k monitor and I just can't go back to 1440p anymore.

Nvidia chose the 8nm because they went previously 12nm, so 16nm, 12nm, 8nm and likely 4nm next and also chose samsung because of favours between friends hehe, tsmc is more inclined to amd.

There is no point waiting for the 3080ti and if it comes will be next year march~august, around that and that is too far away, amd can have a 5nm ampere killer by then. AMD is not like before, we still have to see this bignavi but amd changed, they are different, they could this time still lag behind nvidia but they are getting closer to nvidia on every release. The 5700 was amazing, I did not think they could compete equally with 12nm 2070 on price performance and they did. So i'm not counting AMD out at this time.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: AFox on September 04, 2020, 08:15:50 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EhFnQysUMAAlO5p?format=jpg&name=large

Source : https://twitter.com/RedPandaMining/status/1301935848493993984 (https://twitter.com/RedPandaMining/status/1301935848493993984)


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: Metroid on September 04, 2020, 08:26:22 PM
Source : https://twitter.com/RedPandaMining/status/1301935848493993984 (https://twitter.com/RedPandaMining/status/1301935848493993984)

Those benchs looks very close to what I predicted, 3090 around 20% faster than 3080, and 3080 50% faster than 3070.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: arielbit on September 05, 2020, 01:48:16 AM
other games, if you google can consume 7-9gb vram, that's 2017-2019. upcoming new games can easily double that, so 16gb is the sweet spot for gpu graphics.

I have a feeling that is exactly what nvidia is trying to do. I mean most people dont plan to upgrade from their gtx 1080ti because it has 11gb and if they have a 1440 or a 4k monitor, can still even play many games at 4k with that amount of gddr, 10GB for a 3080 this time and age is low, I say that 16gb is minimum for a card like that, even if it was a 12gb would be doable. It's funny, the 3090 24gb x 10gb 3080, nvidia really want people to buy the 3090. Nvidia simply killed the 3080 even before launching it, dead on arrival.

3080 maybe good for mining if gddr6x proves it can hash a significant amount better than gddr6, gddr5x, and gddr5. we'll see..

besides there are gamers that can still push up to $ 700  for GPU budget but not for a $ 1500 one. If results shows it is better than 3070 where an extra $100 can justify the upgrade.

then the 3070ti with 16gb of gddr6 will be an upgrade because it can play games that requires more than 10gb so 3070 users will upgrade to 3070ti and 3080 users with 10gb will upgrade to 3080ti with 16gb.

I think 8nm of 3000 series cards will be a long life span generation before the next big breakthrough will come. where nvidia decides to pull off this "8-10gb to be upgraded to 16gb" double sell technique LOL.

anyway if you bought 3080 10gb ($700) and upgrade to 3080ti 16gb ($800) that's, $1500 all in all purchase..just like 3090 price.....me? fuck that shit spare me the trouble I'm getting the 3090 24gb for my main PC hehe

some will say why not wait for the 3080ti then? well..mining profit of 50% ROI (modest estimate) will make your $1500 purchase equal to a $750 card LOL.

The 3070ti will have to be a hell of a card, i mean, the 3070 is a disappointment and maybe that is what nvidia intended to do, 3070 raw performance is way behind the 3080, so much so that I think the 3070 is somehow a 3060 super because of the 256bit memory hehe, nvidia launched an early 3060 super hehe and that is the 3070 ehhe, the 3070ti might be the real 3070, looking back 2016, there was a gtx 1070 256 bit and the 1080 256 bit too, 1070 was clearly the only gpu to have, nvidia killed the 1080 on arrival, now they've chosen to kill the 3070 on arrival too hehe, if wasn't for the 320 bit memory and amazing raw performance of the 3080, that would be dead of arrival too, can still use it for a year or 2, depending the games you play and the monitor you have, I myself have a 4k monitor and I just can't go back to 1440p anymore.

Nvidia chose the 8nm because they went previously 12nm, so 16nm, 12nm, 8nm and likely 4nm next and also chose samsung because of favours between friends hehe, tsmc is more inclined to amd.

There is no point waiting for the 3080ti and if it comes will be next year march~august, around that and that is too far away, amd can have a 5nm ampere killer by then. AMD is not like before, we still have to see this bignavi but amd changed, they are different, they could this time still lag behind nvidia but they are getting closer to nvidia on every release. The 5700 was amazing, I did not think they could compete equally with 12nm 2070 on price performance and they did. So i'm not counting AMD out at this time.

just like in the past nvidia is competing with itself, a sign that amd might be again under nvidia.

I agree with not counting out AMD, the fury with HBM vrams did really well, the radeon vii did very well too (100mh ETH hash) (BTW cores are the bottleneck LOL)...if big navi uses HBM (new generation) tech it really can compete but if they use gddr6..well nvidia wins again.

amd in "gpu arena" did a thread ripper fuck up style with early HBM adaptions...we will see if they can pull a ryzen 9 39xx thing with big navi GPUs..(watching HBM tech closely)

Source : https://twitter.com/RedPandaMining/status/1301935848493993984 (https://twitter.com/RedPandaMining/status/1301935848493993984)

Those benchs looks very close to what I predicted, 3090 around 20% faster than 3080, and 3080 50% faster than 3070.

I predicted that x2 hashrate of 100mhs as a possibility, people are so 2017 with 50mhs per card LOL. also I predicted up to 150mhs as unlikely but not impossible, driver optimizations and mining software tweaks might squeeze more hashes.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: Beyerd17 on September 05, 2020, 06:48:53 AM
other games, if you google can consume 7-9gb vram, that's 2017-2019. upcoming new games can easily double that, so 16gb is the sweet spot for gpu graphics.

I have a feeling that is exactly what nvidia is trying to do. I mean most people dont plan to upgrade from their gtx 1080ti because it has 11gb and if they have a 1440 or a 4k monitor, can still even play many games at 4k with that amount of gddr, 10GB for a 3080 this time and age is low, I say that 16gb is minimum for a card like that, even if it was a 12gb would be doable. It's funny, the 3090 24gb x 10gb 3080, nvidia really want people to buy the 3090. Nvidia simply killed the 3080 even before launching it, dead on arrival.

3080 maybe good for mining if gddr6x proves it can hash a significant amount better than gddr6, gddr5x, and gddr5. we'll see..

besides there are gamers that can still push up to $ 700  for GPU budget but not for a $ 1500 one. If results shows it is better than 3070 where an extra $100 can justify the upgrade.

then the 3070ti with 16gb of gddr6 will be an upgrade because it can play games that requires more than 10gb so 3070 users will upgrade to 3070ti and 3080 users with 10gb will upgrade to 3080ti with 16gb.

I think 8nm of 3000 series cards will be a long life span generation before the next big breakthrough will come. where nvidia decides to pull off this "8-10gb to be upgraded to 16gb" double sell technique LOL.

anyway if you bought 3080 10gb ($700) and upgrade to 3080ti 16gb ($800) that's, $1500 all in all purchase..just like 3090 price.....me? fuck that shit spare me the trouble I'm getting the 3090 24gb for my main PC hehe

some will say why not wait for the 3080ti then? well..mining profit of 50% ROI (modest estimate) will make your $1500 purchase equal to a $750 card LOL.

The 3070ti will have to be a hell of a card, i mean, the 3070 is a disappointment and maybe that is what nvidia intended to do, 3070 raw performance is way behind the 3080, so much so that I think the 3070 is somehow a 3060 super because of the 256bit memory hehe, nvidia launched an early 3060 super hehe and that is the 3070 ehhe, the 3070ti might be the real 3070, looking back 2016, there was a gtx 1070 256 bit and the 1080 256 bit too, 1070 was clearly the only gpu to have, nvidia killed the 1080 on arrival, now they've chosen to kill the 3070 on arrival too hehe, if wasn't for the 320 bit memory and amazing raw performance of the 3080, that would be dead of arrival too, can still use it for a year or 2, depending the games you play and the monitor you have, I myself have a 4k monitor and I just can't go back to 1440p anymore.

Nvidia chose the 8nm because they went previously 12nm, so 16nm, 12nm, 8nm and likely 4nm next and also chose samsung because of favours between friends hehe, tsmc is more inclined to amd.

There is no point waiting for the 3080ti and if it comes will be next year march~august, around that and that is too far away, amd can have a 5nm ampere killer by then. AMD is not like before, we still have to see this bignavi but amd changed, they are different, they could this time still lag behind nvidia but they are getting closer to nvidia on every release. The 5700 was amazing, I did not think they could compete equally with 12nm 2070 on price performance and they did. So i'm not counting AMD out at this time.

just like in the past nvidia is competing with itself, a sign that amd might be again under nvidia.

I agree with not counting out AMD, the fury with HBM vrams did really well, the radeon vii did very well too (100mh ETH hash) (BTW cores are the bottleneck LOL)...if big navi uses HBM (new generation) tech it really can compete but if they use gddr6..well nvidia wins again.

amd in "gpu arena" did a thread ripper fuck up style with early HBM adaptions...we will see if they can pull a ryzen 9 39xx thing with big navi GPUs..(watching HBM tech closely)

Source : https://twitter.com/RedPandaMining/status/1301935848493993984 (https://twitter.com/RedPandaMining/status/1301935848493993984)

Those benchs looks very close to what I predicted, 3090 around 20% faster than 3080, and 3080 50% faster than 3070.

I predicted that x2 hashrate of 100mhs as a possibility, people are so 2017 with 50mhs per card LOL. also I predicted up to 150mhs as unlikely but not impossible, driver optimizations and mining software tweaks might squeeze more hashes.

It all comes down to price to performance. If the price can come down going forward, the older cards will get uncompetitive. Nvidias competition with AMD and possibly Intel will be key in the years and future gpu iterations. Another thing is that a 5700 or a 2080ti will be shit five years from now.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: DrX on September 08, 2020, 09:15:42 PM
Not sure if its real

https://tekdeeps.com/in-china-miners-have-already-slammed-down-on-the-new-geforces/

3080 = 115 Mh/s


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: AFox on September 08, 2020, 09:34:58 PM
3080 = 115 Mh/s
@300 watts

RX5700 can do 50 Mh/s at 100watts.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: P00P135 on September 08, 2020, 09:58:36 PM
3080 = 115 Mh/s
@300 watts

RX5700 can do 50 Mh/s at 100watts.

After there are some miner optimizations based on the 3000 series and people tune power settings it could be a lot better.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: DrX on September 09, 2020, 05:24:14 AM
power consumption should be same as 2080ti, so maybe ~220W?
So its quite same as RX5700


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: styleshifter on September 09, 2020, 10:25:25 AM
I found a news article from a German IT website today.
They say that in China there's a huge demand for 3080s.

They also link a Baidu post where they're mining ETH on a 3080 with 115 Mh/s.

Here's the link:
https://www.golem.de/news/cryto-boom-ethereum-miner-horten-geforce-rtx-3080-2009-150752.html (https://www.golem.de/news/cryto-boom-ethereum-miner-horten-geforce-rtx-3080-2009-150752.html)


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: chafer99 on September 09, 2020, 11:42:40 AM
power consumption should be same as 2080ti, so maybe ~220W?
So its quite same as RX5700
I thing, power consumption at 3xxx will be higher (non-reference 3090, 400-500W), i believe 100-120Mhs on ETH.
It's a question, when coming Navi RDNA2


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: sxemini on September 09, 2020, 12:20:24 PM
I found a news article from a German IT website today.
They say that in China there's a huge demand for 3080s.

They also link a Baidu post where they're mining ETH on a 3080 with 115 Mh/s.

Here's the link:
https://www.golem.de/news/cryto-boom-ethereum-miner-horten-geforce-rtx-3080-2009-150752.html (https://www.golem.de/news/cryto-boom-ethereum-miner-horten-geforce-rtx-3080-2009-150752.html)

Have you seen this page? Have you seen information, screenshots or anything else that can prove the hashrate? They only speculating and nothing more.  ::)


And to the rest. Stop posting anything from Red Panda Mining, one of the biggest noobs in the crypto space.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: DrX on September 09, 2020, 01:31:03 PM
Some prices in europe

https://www.caseking.de/en/pc-components/graphics-cards/nvidia-graphics-cards/geforce-rtx-3080


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: philipma1957 on September 09, 2020, 02:01:09 PM
It will be power hungry so you have a choice. lite duty  amd 5600 doing 80 watts and 40 mh cost under 270
a card
or a heavy power nvidia using over 200 watts to do  100 mh cost 750-900 a card.

A lot depends on build and location. It is really easy to cool the amd 5600 cards.

Not sure how easy it is to run a rig with 8 cards using 225:watts a card.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: jsanzsp on September 09, 2020, 02:43:19 PM

perhaps the most interesting is the 3070, less consumption less price and a hashrate close to 60mhs.

Anyway, amd 6000 series sure are cheaper, and with a very high hashrate.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: Beyerd17 on September 09, 2020, 09:27:00 PM
other games, if you google can consume 7-9gb vram, that's 2017-2019. upcoming new games can easily double that, so 16gb is the sweet spot for gpu graphics.

I have a feeling that is exactly what nvidia is trying to do. I mean most people dont plan to upgrade from their gtx 1080ti because it has 11gb and if they have a 1440 or a 4k monitor, can still even play many games at 4k with that amount of gddr, 10GB for a 3080 this time and age is low, I say that 16gb is minimum for a card like that, even if it was a 12gb would be doable. It's funny, the 3090 24gb x 10gb 3080, nvidia really want people to buy the 3090. Nvidia simply killed the 3080 even before launching it, dead on arrival.

3080 maybe good for mining if gddr6x proves it can hash a significant amount better than gddr6, gddr5x, and gddr5. we'll see..

besides there are gamers that can still push up to $ 700  for GPU budget but not for a $ 1500 one. If results shows it is better than 3070 where an extra $100 can justify the upgrade.

then the 3070ti with 16gb of gddr6 will be an upgrade because it can play games that requires more than 10gb so 3070 users will upgrade to 3070ti and 3080 users with 10gb will upgrade to 3080ti with 16gb.

I think 8nm of 3000 series cards will be a long life span generation before the next big breakthrough will come. where nvidia decides to pull off this "8-10gb to be upgraded to 16gb" double sell technique LOL.

anyway if you bought 3080 10gb ($700) and upgrade to 3080ti 16gb ($800) that's, $1500 all in all purchase..just like 3090 price.....me? fuck that shit spare me the trouble I'm getting the 3090 24gb for my main PC hehe

some will say why not wait for the 3080ti then? well..mining profit of 50% ROI (modest estimate) will make your $1500 purchase equal to a $750 card LOL.

I believe it's a given that the new 3000 series from Nvidia will be good (and better than the 2000 series), as it comes on a smaller and newer node compared to the older cards. As for AMD, it seems they will give a huge improvement for the Ethereum miners when big Navi comes out later this year.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: heavyarms1912 on September 10, 2020, 09:49:00 PM

perhaps the most interesting is the 3070, less consumption less price and a hashrate close to 60mhs.

Anyway, amd 6000 series sure are cheaper, and with a very high hashrate.

Why when a $330-$350 RX 5700 can do 55 MHs at 130w at wall?


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: Metroid on September 11, 2020, 01:08:25 AM
It will depend on how things are going to be after 17 september, rx 5700 will only have a price drop if nvidia launches something better at lower price, as soon as the 3060 is launched then yes, how much is yet to be seen, to me 5700 $250 is a fair price at moment.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: Beyerd17 on September 11, 2020, 05:54:52 AM
It will depend on how things are going to be after 17 september, rx 5700 will only have a price drop if nvidia launches something better at lower price, as soon as the 3060 is launched then yes, how much is yet to be seen, to me 5700 $250 is a fair price at moment.

There might be a flood of used 5700 and 5700xt when and if the 3060 comes out and it proves to be much better cost/wattage. Also I would expect big Navi to put the 5600 and 5700 series in the dust when comparing wattage draw mining Ethereum and clones. Exiting times ahead guys.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: Eyedol-X on September 11, 2020, 09:09:22 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EhFnQysUMAAlO5p?format=jpg&name=large

Source : https://twitter.com/RedPandaMining/status/1301935848493993984 (https://twitter.com/RedPandaMining/status/1301935848493993984)

I saw this graphic floating around as well. Anyone else find any other info or alternative validations?


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: Beyerd17 on September 12, 2020, 04:16:30 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EhFnQysUMAAlO5p?format=jpg&name=large

Source : https://twitter.com/RedPandaMining/status/1301935848493993984 (https://twitter.com/RedPandaMining/status/1301935848493993984)

I saw this graphic floating around as well. Anyone else find any other info or alternative validations?

We will have to wait for the cards to come out and specs to be officially posted by Nvidia before we can say for sure. The only validations I would trust a hundred percent would be from the company itself, wount be that long to wait for propper confirmation now, just a few more days.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: sluppy on September 15, 2020, 06:49:42 PM
Most probably nvidia will lock the bios and make it less efficient for mining. . We need compute drivers for nvidia gaming cards. . :-)


Because they Hate money ?


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: sxemini on September 16, 2020, 12:34:49 PM
RTX 3080 hashrate´s

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-ethereum-daggerhashimoto-mining-performance (https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-ethereum-daggerhashimoto-mining-performance)

My expected hashrate was very close  ;D


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: Metroid on September 16, 2020, 12:36:57 PM
NDA expires in 24 minutes.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: SalvajeX on September 16, 2020, 02:04:34 PM
And does anyone have reliable results?


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: ZeeeN on September 16, 2020, 03:44:22 PM
And does anyone have reliable results?


i hope we will see reliable results in couple days after today youtuber can review rtx 3080.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: AFox on September 16, 2020, 05:51:42 PM
RTX 3080 hashrate´s

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-ethereum-daggerhashimoto-mining-performance (https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-ethereum-daggerhashimoto-mining-performance)

My expected hashrate was very close  ;D
Hashrate isn't really impressive :(
Ratio hashrate/price is almost the same as the AMD RX5700.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: philipma1957 on September 16, 2020, 06:00:33 PM
RTX 3080 hashrate´s

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-ethereum-daggerhashimoto-mining-performance (https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-ethereum-daggerhashimoto-mining-performance)

My expected hashrate was very close  ;D
Hashrate isn't really impressive :(
Ratio hashrate/price is almost the same as the AMD RX5700.

as is efficiency

the big gain is density

the board below can do 5 amd cards 4 x 5700 and 1 x 5600

https://www.ebay.com/itm/biostar-TB250-BTC-D-Pro-Motherboard-Mining/124217882169?

it will do 230-240 mh

or use same board with 4x 3080 and do  320mh


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: arielbit on September 16, 2020, 06:02:21 PM
RTX 3080 hashrate´s

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-ethereum-daggerhashimoto-mining-performance (https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-ethereum-daggerhashimoto-mining-performance)

My expected hashrate was very close  ;D
Hashrate isn't really impressive :(
Ratio hashrate/price is almost the same as the AMD RX5700.

as is efficiency

the big gain is density

the board below can do 5 amd cards 4 x 5700 and 1 x 5600

https://www.ebay.com/itm/biostar-TB250-BTC-D-Pro-Motherboard-Mining/124217882169?

it will do 230-240 mh

or use same board with 4x 3080 and do  320mh

plus the advantage of mining other algos ... and significantly faster at those algos


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: aesma on September 16, 2020, 09:49:17 PM
Most probably nvidia will lock the bios and make it less efficient for mining. . We need compute drivers for nvidia gaming cards. . :-)

Because they Hate money ?

Don't worry, nvidia is doing fine. In fact it's becoming a bit scary, having bought out ARM : https://www.marketwatch.com/story/nvidias-deal-with-arm-paves-the-path-to-a-trillion-dollar-market-value-2020-09-14 It smells like another giant with its hands in many cookie jars. Let's hope AMD isn't left in the dust, and Intel finally comes up with a decent GPU.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: Spill on September 16, 2020, 11:38:15 PM
RTX 3080 hashrate´s

https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-ethereum-daggerhashimoto-mining-performance (https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-ethereum-daggerhashimoto-mining-performance)

My expected hashrate was very close  ;D



I'm curious what is the wattage use with those hashrates?


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: Metroid on September 16, 2020, 11:53:00 PM
Hashrate isn't really impressive :(
Ratio hashrate/price is almost the same as the AMD RX5700.

What? is not impressive? what world are you living in? For mining, 3080 and the 1080ti in the past were the only ones expensive enough that was and is worth to buy.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: arielbit on September 17, 2020, 12:45:02 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OX9Eh_NaC5c (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OX9Eh_NaC5c)

tear down video shows that this 3080 founders edition cards are going to be pretty much dust resistant (at least for the boards). a good feature for mining since cleaning is part of maintenance hehe


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: rednoW on September 17, 2020, 05:25:35 AM
well, after 2 years nvidia was able to reproduce Radeon VII eth performance with more wattage  ;D


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: Metroid on September 17, 2020, 08:01:32 AM
well, after 2 years nvidia was able to reproduce Radeon VII eth performance with more wattage  ;D

Yeah but nvidia did not need hbm2. So all in fairness still impressive as is just gddr6x.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: arielbit on September 17, 2020, 08:41:49 AM
well, after 2 years nvidia was able to reproduce Radeon VII eth performance with more wattage  ;D

Yeah but nvidia did not need hbm2. So all in fairness still impressive as is just gddr6x.

it was the core, radeon vii hbm was bottle necked by the core, nvidia gddr6x amphere is what radeon vii should be.

besides amd and nvidia don't make gddr6x and hbm just for eth mining lol


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: sxemini on September 17, 2020, 09:19:03 AM
well, after 2 years nvidia was able to reproduce Radeon VII eth performance with more wattage  ;D

Yeah but nvidia did not need hbm2. So all in fairness still impressive as is just gddr6x.

lol Metroid. Nvidia Fanboy? I think so and why you talking so much about mining, when you are not mining?
You are not a miner and have no really knowledge, as we see in this sentence.

The vega7 is how old? How much hashrate in grin, eth and so on can it do? But yes the new 3080 is impressive and the new holy grale lol  ::)
AMD cards needs less memspeed to achieve same hashrate like Nvidia cards, as we see AMD RX5700 vs Nvidia 2080 and we not talking about the price.

well, after 2 years nvidia was able to reproduce Radeon VII eth performance with more wattage  ;D

Yeah but nvidia did not need hbm2. So all in fairness still impressive as is just gddr6x.

it was the core, radeon vii hbm was bottle necked by the core, nvidia gddr6x amphere is what radeon vii should be.

besides amd and nvidia don't make gddr6x and hbm just for eth mining lol

Yes, the vega7 can do much more in hashrate, because the memspeed was incredible, samething as the old AMD R9 390, it has so much mem speed, but the bottleneck was the core.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: arielbit on September 17, 2020, 09:48:11 AM


well, after 2 years nvidia was able to reproduce Radeon VII eth performance with more wattage  ;D

Yeah but nvidia did not need hbm2. So all in fairness still impressive as is just gddr6x.

it was the core, radeon vii hbm was bottle necked by the core, nvidia gddr6x amphere is what radeon vii should be.

besides amd and nvidia don't make gddr6x and hbm just for eth mining lol

Yes, the vega7 can do much more in hashrate, because the memspeed was incredible, samething as the old AMD R9 390, it has so much mem speed, but the bottleneck was the core.


r9 390 was just a refresh of r9 290 both are gddr5........same as 280x, that's why 280x was the best balance of efficiency, price and hashrate.

amd vram speed only become "incredible" when fury, fury x and nano were released with hbm.

remember when 1070/ti are both gddr5? hehe people got crazy about them, not me. gddr5 ended for me with r9 390 and rx 480.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: sxemini on September 17, 2020, 10:02:04 AM
I know that this are gddr5, but the memory is not the only thing. The R9 390 has 512bit memory interface, that is why i say incredible. Or you know much more cards with such a big memory interface like this?
Don´t compare only gddr5 with gddr6 or hbm, you must see the whole thing. memspeed is combination of memory interface and memspeed.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: arielbit on September 17, 2020, 10:08:06 AM
I know that this are gddr5, but the memory is not the only thing. The R9 390 has 512bit memory interface, that is why i say incredible. Or you know much more cards with such a big memory interface like this?
Don´t compare only gddr5 with gddr6 or hbm, you must see the whole thing. memspeed is combination of memory interface and memspeed.

i like to keep things simple hehe, those memory interface speed differences are just minimal leap. major upgrades/purchases are only worthy with huge leap in performance.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: sxemini on September 17, 2020, 10:15:36 AM
I know that this are gddr5, but the memory is not the only thing. The R9 390 has 512bit memory interface, that is why i say incredible. Or you know much more cards with such a big memory interface like this?
Don´t compare only gddr5 with gddr6 or hbm, you must see the whole thing. memspeed is combination of memory interface and memspeed.

i like to keep things simple hehe, those memory interface speed differences are just minimal leap. major upgrades/purchases are only worthy with huge leap in performance.
XXXXDDDDD ok now i am out, I don´t discuss with persons they have really really really and really no knowledge about what they talking about. So you say, if i can halving the memory interface of an r9 390 to 256, this will change nothing in eth speed? you cut of the halve mem speed and this will do nothing with the speed? Ok dude you must learn much more, i don´t believe this, i know this.

How much cards you have for mining?

For example: R9 390 can reach over 40mh if you rise the core to the hell, an rx 580 with almost the same number of shaders, but halve mem interface cannot achieve these hashrate.
Next Example: R9 280x 384bit mem interface, can achieve 28mh on 1GB DAG, R9 380x same shader count, but interface cuted to 256bit, max it can achieve 25mh with some optimizations.

Can you prove anything or do you have any comparisons that prove your statements?


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: arielbit on September 17, 2020, 10:31:12 AM
I know that this are gddr5, but the memory is not the only thing. The R9 390 has 512bit memory interface, that is why i say incredible. Or you know much more cards with such a big memory interface like this?
Don´t compare only gddr5 with gddr6 or hbm, you must see the whole thing. memspeed is combination of memory interface and memspeed.

i like to keep things simple hehe, those memory interface speed differences are just minimal leap. major upgrades/purchases are only worthy with huge leap in performance.
XXXXDDDDD ok now i am out, I don´t discuss with persons they have really really really and really no knowledge about what they talking about. So you say, if i can halving the memory interface of an r9 390 to 256, this will change nothing in eth speed? you cut of the halve mem speed and this will do nothing with the speed? Ok dude you must learn much more, i don´t believe this, i know this.

How much cards you have for mining?

For example: R9 390 can reach over 40mh if you rise the core to the hell, an rx 580 with almost the same number of shaders, but halve mem interface cannot achieve these hashrate.
Next Example: R9 280x 384bit mem interface, can achieve 28mh on 1GB DAG, R9 380x same shader count, but interface cuted to 256bit, max it can achieve 25mh with some optimizations.

Can you prove anything or do you have any comparisons that prove your statements?

for example...bluah..blah..blee.bluu.blawr..

will you cut the memory interface from 512 to 256? LOL it is a product, engineers already decided what interface will do best for that product.

we just run it and see if it will profit. dude you are over complicating things just to win an argument that you will never win hehehehe

how many cards i run? well... that's the mystery dude  :D


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: sxemini on September 17, 2020, 10:40:21 AM
I know that this are gddr5, but the memory is not the only thing. The R9 390 has 512bit memory interface, that is why i say incredible. Or you know much more cards with such a big memory interface like this?
Don´t compare only gddr5 with gddr6 or hbm, you must see the whole thing. memspeed is combination of memory interface and memspeed.

i like to keep things simple hehe, those memory interface speed differences are just minimal leap. major upgrades/purchases are only worthy with huge leap in performance.
XXXXDDDDD ok now i am out, I don´t discuss with persons they have really really really and really no knowledge about what they talking about. So you say, if i can halving the memory interface of an r9 390 to 256, this will change nothing in eth speed? you cut of the halve mem speed and this will do nothing with the speed? Ok dude you must learn much more, i don´t believe this, i know this.

How much cards you have for mining?

For example: R9 390 can reach over 40mh if you rise the core to the hell, an rx 580 with almost the same number of shaders, but halve mem interface cannot achieve these hashrate.

will you cut the memory interface from 512 to 256? LOL it is a product, engineers already decided what interface will do best for that product.

we just run it and see if it will profit. dude you are over complicating things just to win an argument that you will never win hehehehe

how many cards i run? well... that's the mystery dude  :D

Oh man please let it rain brain. Your knowledge is incredible XD it is product. What an answer. You know the difference between 512bit und 256bit? You know that 256bit produce halve memspeed as 512bit can do?

dude i don´t answer you anymore and set you on my ignore list. I can´t read your shit anymore 8)

And i will never win? What will i win? A trip? You have no arguments and nothing and with your 3 cards running you think you are a big player XD

This is sentence from you (arielbit) say all about your knowledge:
Quote from: arielbit
anyway my point is about 150mhs "possibility" from gddr5x to 6 to 6x. that's two vram generation leaps. understand the analogy. then you will understand why it is a "possibility"
Yes and gddr5 to gddr5x brings double memspeed. man dude you must compare the real memspeed and not gddr5 to gddr6x.  ::) some people will learn nothing but thats it. i am out sorry dude and have fun with your killer 1080ti´s that can produce 50mh, wow impressive  :D ::) ??? and you compare it with the RX5700 and say that Nvidia can do this many years ago. Ok AMD can do over 100mh many years ago with vega7. And by the way, the Rx5700 can do over 55mh at 120w, how much watt needs the 1080ti´s?

And next argument: Miners not optimized for RTX3080. Ok the miners are also not optimized for AMD vega7, Navi and so on. Miners optimized for the RTX20X0 series? Some other algo miners yes, but not for ETH.
You say i only speak about ETH hashrate and nvidia can do more algos than AMD, but why you still compare the ETH hashrate  ???


There are many algos for AMD and Nvidia, i prefer no Manufacturer, i only buy cards with a good hash per watt ratio.

How can I calculate the memory bandwidth thats important for ETH mining:

(memory clock in Hz × Memory Interface ÷ 8 ) × memory clock type multiplier = Bandwidth in MB/s

memory clock type multiplier:
HBM1 / HBM2: 2
GDDR3: 2
GDDR5: 4
GDDR5X: 8


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: arielbit on September 17, 2020, 10:50:59 AM
I know that this are gddr5, but the memory is not the only thing. The R9 390 has 512bit memory interface, that is why i say incredible. Or you know much more cards with such a big memory interface like this?
Don´t compare only gddr5 with gddr6 or hbm, you must see the whole thing. memspeed is combination of memory interface and memspeed.

i like to keep things simple hehe, those memory interface speed differences are just minimal leap. major upgrades/purchases are only worthy with huge leap in performance.
XXXXDDDDD ok now i am out, I don´t discuss with persons they have really really really and really no knowledge about what they talking about. So you say, if i can halving the memory interface of an r9 390 to 256, this will change nothing in eth speed? you cut of the halve mem speed and this will do nothing with the speed? Ok dude you must learn much more, i don´t believe this, i know this.

How much cards you have for mining?

For example: R9 390 can reach over 40mh if you rise the core to the hell, an rx 580 with almost the same number of shaders, but halve mem interface cannot achieve these hashrate.

for example...bluah..blah..blee.bluu.blawr..

will you cut the memory interface from 512 to 256? LOL it is a product, engineers already decided what interface will do best for that product.

we just run it and see if it will profit. dude you are over complicating things just to win an argument that you will never win hehehehe

how many cards i run? well... that's the mystery dude  :D

Oh man please let it rain brain. Your knowledge is incredible XD it is product. What an answer. You know the difference between 512bit und 256bit? You know that 256bit produce halve memspeed as 512bit can do?

dude i don´t answer you anymore and set you on my ignore list. I can´t read your shit no more 8)

And i will never win? What will i win? A trip? You have no arguments and nothing and with your 3 cards running you think you are a big player XD

yeah, my super expert scientist and engineering brain knows that 3080 has a hidden rx480 inside, because if you slide the msi afterburner bar a little bit to the right it generates another 25-30 mhs of extra hashrate

you....while owing rx 480 cannot accept the fact that 3080 buyers will have a rx480 inside their 3080 cards for free.

gpu mining/gpu technology has another major leg up, going sour and rampaging in altcoin mining section while being phased out in the game is not the way to go sxe..mini dick LOL   ;D  ;D

hehehe ignore my ass....all these years in bitcointalk...they always read  :D


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: aesma on September 17, 2020, 12:09:12 PM
arielbit you're not making much sense. These cards are for gaming, it's totally possible that the memory bus is tailored for that, for cost reasons, and that if you could have more memory bandwidth it would help for mining. If you look at the RTX 3080 vs 3090, it's the same chip, so the 3080 could be run on the same PCB as the 3090 with the same memory bus (you'd have to not fuse off parts of the memory controller of course) and you would get a gain for mining. However the card would be more expensive, and games wouldn't benefit much, so nvidia doesn't do it.

In the past it has happened that a high end GPU was remade on a smaller process, the memory bus cut, and that was the new middle end GPU.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: arielbit on September 17, 2020, 12:25:50 PM
arielbit you're not making much sense. These cards are for gaming, it's totally possible that the memory bus is tailored for that, for cost reasons, and that if you could have more memory bandwidth it would help for mining. If you look at the RTX 3080 vs 3090, it's the same chip, so the 3080 could be run on the same PCB as the 3090 with the same memory bus (you'd have to not fuse off parts of the memory controller of course) and you would get a gain for mining. However the card would be more expensive, and games wouldn't benefit much, so nvidia doesn't do it.

In the past it has happened that a high end GPU was remade on a smaller process, the memory bus cut, and that was the new middle end GPU.

that's why i said it is already a "product", nvidia/amd engineering and marketing department has already sorted it all out.

you can all throw your mumbo jumbo tech interpretations and examples out there with your basic arithmetic but the fact is we just follow what these gpu manufacturers throw out there.

example: sxemini dick, got a phd in memory interface says 3080 is 65mh, but 3080 can deliver 93mh (mining software and driver not yet optimized) LOL

the bottom line is..its the hashes per card we want (efficiency included).


How can I calculate the memory bandwidth thats important for ETH mining:

(memory clock in Hz × Memory Interface ÷ 8 ) × memory clock type multiplier = Bandwidth in MB/s

memory clock type multiplier:
HBM1 / HBM2: 2
GDDR3: 2
GDDR5: 4
GDDR5X: 8


me:...writing this in my palm

come here sxemini....i slap this on your stupid face.

who the fuck cares? you are already wrong and you give me this stupid fucking formula like some Einstein piece of shit haha


here let me show you my formula.

buy 3080, plug it in your computer, mine with it.  8)


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: jmigdlc99 on September 17, 2020, 01:30:59 PM
^ That escalated quickly.

Anyway, did anyone here get to buy a 3080? I was refreshing Nvidia, Amazon, Newegg, Bestbuy, and Lazada like crazy. But all out of stock within seconds! Nvidia is good at creating extreme demand for their GPUs lol.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: Metroid on September 17, 2020, 01:55:54 PM
^ That escalated quickly.

Anyway, did anyone here get to buy a 3080? I was refreshing Nvidia, Amazon, Newegg, Bestbuy, and Lazada like crazy. But all out of stock within seconds! Nvidia is good at creating extreme demand for their GPUs lol.

It escalated because nvidia itself said stock would be limited. If they have said, do not worry we have lots in stock then people would have calmed down. Limit 1 gpu per household, truth here is that people bought to resell them, buy for $699 and sell for $999 on ebay or other places easy.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: wOvAN on September 17, 2020, 08:04:48 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRxlTxysbQk

95mh - 240w


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: Metroid on September 17, 2020, 08:42:16 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRxlTxysbQk

95mh - 240w

Thanks for the video. I wonder how safe is 800+ memory overclock. So without any drastic change, 2.52 watts per megahash, incredible, certainly the gpu king of mining for now.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: btcshiner on September 17, 2020, 09:36:46 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRxlTxysbQk

95mh - 240w

Nice video thanks!


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: badbart on September 18, 2020, 12:50:46 AM
Need to see other alogs, slightly less efficient then a 5700 on eth but density is a winner and I would assume much better on other algos.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: geck on September 18, 2020, 07:52:19 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRxlTxysbQk

95mh - 240w

Thanks for the video. I wonder how safe is 800+ memory overclock. So without any drastic change, 2.52 watts per megahash, incredible, certainly the gpu king of mining for now.

It definitely isn't the king of mining in terms of efficiency for ETH. 2.52W/MH puts it roughly equal to my 2080.
If it is hampered by the gddr6x, then the 3070 should fare better at ETH - 60MH @ 150W? That would be rx5700 level.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: Metroid on September 18, 2020, 08:04:37 AM
It definitely isn't the king of mining in terms of efficiency for ETH. 2.52W/MH puts it roughly equal to my 2080.
If it is hampered by the gddr6x, then the 3070 should fare better at ETH - 60MH @ 150W? That would be rx5700 level.


uh? you say equal and yet you did not say your hashrate, taking the value from whattomine, it says, 2080, 38 mhs 160 watts, rx 5700 or 3070 will not come close to price performance of the 3080 and density, you can deny all day long but when numbers are real, is time you trolls accept the reality, at moment there is nothing better than 3080 overall which yes makes it the gpu king of mining.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: aesma on September 18, 2020, 10:21:19 AM
W/MH is an important measure, but you must also consider the price of the cards. I can find a 5700XT for about 350€ in Europe, meanwhile I can't find a 3080 , but if I could it would be more than twice that amount. How much electricity would the difference pay, accounting also for the density of cards on rigs ? You have to take everything into account.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: Metroid on September 18, 2020, 11:50:02 AM
It depends the price now. $699 3080 10gb, lets hope maximum for a 20gb is $849.

https://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-20-gb-rtx-3070-16-gb-rtx-3060-8-gb-graphics-cards-confirmed/


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: Eliovp on September 18, 2020, 12:05:40 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRxlTxysbQk

95mh - 240w

Thanks for the video. I wonder how safe is 800+ memory overclock. So without any drastic change, 2.52 watts per megahash, incredible, certainly the gpu king of mining for now.

Been reading some posts here, mostly reading a bunch of nonsense and speculation, usually not worth replying to but this one I just had to reply to.

2.52w the king of mining?

My almost 2 year old R7: 2.1W/Mh.
My 3 year old Vega 56: 2.5W/Mh (and this can be improved)
My 5700: 2.2W/Mh

Great king you've got there.

Is it a king for gaming purposes? Yeah, most probably! But so far, not for mining (efficiency wise).

Please try to be objective and don't let your fanboyism get the better of you.

Cheers ;-)


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: Lucky - Luciano on September 18, 2020, 12:40:45 PM
It depends the price now. $699 3080 10gb, lets hope maximum for a 20gb is $849.

https://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-20-gb-rtx-3070-16-gb-rtx-3060-8-gb-graphics-cards-confirmed/


The price of $ 699 (590 euros) is on paper only. In EU stores, the cheapest RTX3080 models cost around 750 euros ($ 887). Many models are 800 euros ($ 947) and more .


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: Metroid on September 18, 2020, 12:42:02 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRxlTxysbQk

95mh - 240w

Thanks for the video. I wonder how safe is 800+ memory overclock. So without any drastic change, 2.52 watts per megahash, incredible, certainly the gpu king of mining for now.

Been reading some posts here, mostly reading a bunch of nonsense and speculation, usually not worth replying to but this one I just had to reply to.

2.52w the king of mining?

My almost 2 year old R7: 2.1W/Mh.
My 3 year old Vega 56: 2.5W/Mh (and this can be improved)
My 5700: 2.2W/Mh

Great king you've got there.

Is it a king for gaming purposes? Yeah, most probably! But so far, not for mining (efficiency wise).

Please try to be objective and don't let your fanboyism get the better of you.

Cheers ;-)

"certainly the gpu king of mining for now." Is that really wrong? Do the numbers say I said bs? Is there a better GPU right now regarding efficiency and density?

Fanboyism, really? Do the numbers say is really fanboyism? on the contrary, the numbers support my statement, tell me a gpu that does 95 mhs and uses 240 watts and yes it can be improved it too. As per my post I clearly said efficiency and density here. See how i did not need to lower to your level. There is no need to attack the poster when the numbers clearly say it all.

It depends the price now. $699 3080 10gb, lets hope maximum for a 20gb is $849.

https://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-20-gb-rtx-3070-16-gb-rtx-3060-8-gb-graphics-cards-confirmed/


The price of $ 699 (590 euros) is on paper only. In EU stores, the cheapest RTX3080 models cost around 750 euros ($ 887).


What paper is this? if your country you live in has tax and other things to pay, like resellers getting a gold opportunity to get some extra money, do not blame nvidia, that does not mean is "paper only", check the US store websites, every manufacture had a $699 version or very close to it difference to it was marginally low, $730 or so.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: geck on September 18, 2020, 12:53:16 PM
It definitely isn't the king of mining in terms of efficiency for ETH. 2.52W/MH puts it roughly equal to my 2080.
If it is hampered by the gddr6x, then the 3070 should fare better at ETH - 60MH @ 150W? That would be rx5700 level.


uh? you say equal and yet you did not say your hashrate, taking the value from whattomine, it says, 2080, 38 mhs 160 watts, rx 5700 or 3070 will not come close to price performance of the 3080 and density, you can deny all day long but when numbers are real, is time you trolls accept the reality, at moment there is nothing better than 3080 overall which yes makes it the gpu king of mining.

Yes i said equal, as you were talking about efficiency in terms of W/MH for ETH. Based on that metric, i disagree with your statement that the 3080 is the "king of mining in terms of efficiency".
The hashrate of my 2080 does not matter as we are talking about W/MH, but fwiw, on average, my cards do 41.4MH @ 105W-110W atw.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: Metroid on September 18, 2020, 12:59:34 PM
It definitely isn't the king of mining in terms of efficiency for ETH. 2.52W/MH puts it roughly equal to my 2080.
If it is hampered by the gddr6x, then the 3070 should fare better at ETH - 60MH @ 150W? That would be rx5700 level.


uh? you say equal and yet you did not say your hashrate, taking the value from whattomine, it says, 2080, 38 mhs 160 watts, rx 5700 or 3070 will not come close to price performance of the 3080 and density, you can deny all day long but when numbers are real, is time you trolls accept the reality, at moment there is nothing better than 3080 overall which yes makes it the gpu king of mining.

Yes i said equal, as you were talking about efficiency in terms of W/MH for ETH. Based on that metric, i disagree with your statement that the 3080 is the "king of mining in terms of efficiency".
The hashrate of my 2080 does not matter as we are talking about W/MH, but fwiw, on average, my cards do 41.4MH @ 105W-110W atw.


It's funny, because you said something and my post says something different, so I will Paraphrase it here again "rx 5700 or 3070 will not come close to price performance of the 3080 and density", and by the way, I would not buy a rtx 2080 even it it was $300 at this moment, 200 usd at moment I would think about.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: geck on September 18, 2020, 01:00:47 PM
W/MH is an important measure, but you must also consider the price of the cards. I can find a 5700XT for about 350€ in Europe, meanwhile I can't find a 3080 , but if I could it would be more than twice that amount. How much electricity would the difference pay, accounting also for the density of cards on rigs ? You have to take everything into account.

In terms of £/W/MH then there is no contest for 3080 - the rx5600/5700 is way better.
5700: £350, 2.1W/MH versus 3080 £650, 2.5W/MH.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: geck on September 18, 2020, 01:03:10 PM
It definitely isn't the king of mining in terms of efficiency for ETH. 2.52W/MH puts it roughly equal to my 2080.
If it is hampered by the gddr6x, then the 3070 should fare better at ETH - 60MH @ 150W? That would be rx5700 level.


uh? you say equal and yet you did not say your hashrate, taking the value from whattomine, it says, 2080, 38 mhs 160 watts, rx 5700 or 3070 will not come close to price performance of the 3080 and density, you can deny all day long but when numbers are real, is time you trolls accept the reality, at moment there is nothing better than 3080 overall which yes makes it the gpu king of mining.

Yes i said equal, as you were talking about efficiency in terms of W/MH for ETH. Based on that metric, i disagree with your statement that the 3080 is the "king of mining in terms of efficiency".
The hashrate of my 2080 does not matter as we are talking about W/MH, but fwiw, on average, my cards do 41.4MH @ 105W-110W atw.


It's funny, because you said something and my post says something different, so I will Paraphrase it here again "rx 5700 or 3070 will not come close to price performance of the 3080 and density", and by the way, I would not buy a rtx 2080 even it it was $300 at this moment, 200 usd at moment I would think about.

Yes it is different from what you said, because you edited out the "efficiency" word from your op.
I do agree with you that i would not buy a 2080 even at $300, however i would buy an rx 5700.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: Metroid on September 18, 2020, 01:10:18 PM
It definitely isn't the king of mining in terms of efficiency for ETH. 2.52W/MH puts it roughly equal to my 2080.
If it is hampered by the gddr6x, then the 3070 should fare better at ETH - 60MH @ 150W? That would be rx5700 level.


uh? you say equal and yet you did not say your hashrate, taking the value from whattomine, it says, 2080, 38 mhs 160 watts, rx 5700 or 3070 will not come close to price performance of the 3080 and density, you can deny all day long but when numbers are real, is time you trolls accept the reality, at moment there is nothing better than 3080 overall which yes makes it the gpu king of mining.

Yes i said equal, as you were talking about efficiency in terms of W/MH for ETH. Based on that metric, i disagree with your statement that the 3080 is the "king of mining in terms of efficiency".
The hashrate of my 2080 does not matter as we are talking about W/MH, but fwiw, on average, my cards do 41.4MH @ 105W-110W atw.


It's funny, because you said something and my post says something different, so I will Paraphrase it here again "rx 5700 or 3070 will not come close to price performance of the 3080 and density", and by the way, I would not buy a rtx 2080 even it it was $300 at this moment, 200 usd at moment I would think about.

Yes it is different from what you said, because you edited out the "efficiency" word from your op.
I do agree with you that i would not buy a 2080 even at $300, however i would buy an rx 5700.

I did not edit and do you know what proves i did not, is your reply, it quoted what I wrote at that moment of your reply, check your quote, if you want to know more about it then ask an admin of the site how reply or quote works.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: sxemini on September 18, 2020, 01:19:04 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRxlTxysbQk

95mh - 240w

Longterm test? Running for 5 sec say nothing. Please let it run for a week without restart.
Find a sweetspot under 200w would be nice, but for me, the 3060 (ti) is more interesting, same mem speed as 3070 but cheaper.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: geck on September 18, 2020, 01:29:56 PM
It definitely isn't the king of mining in terms of efficiency for ETH. 2.52W/MH puts it roughly equal to my 2080.
If it is hampered by the gddr6x, then the 3070 should fare better at ETH - 60MH @ 150W? That would be rx5700 level.


uh? you say equal and yet you did not say your hashrate, taking the value from whattomine, it says, 2080, 38 mhs 160 watts, rx 5700 or 3070 will not come close to price performance of the 3080 and density, you can deny all day long but when numbers are real, is time you trolls accept the reality, at moment there is nothing better than 3080 overall which yes makes it the gpu king of mining.

Yes i said equal, as you were talking about efficiency in terms of W/MH for ETH. Based on that metric, i disagree with your statement that the 3080 is the "king of mining in terms of efficiency".
The hashrate of my 2080 does not matter as we are talking about W/MH, but fwiw, on average, my cards do 41.4MH @ 105W-110W atw.


It's funny, because you said something and my post says something different, so I will Paraphrase it here again "rx 5700 or 3070 will not come close to price performance of the 3080 and density", and by the way, I would not buy a rtx 2080 even it it was $300 at this moment, 200 usd at moment I would think about.

Yes it is different from what you said, because you edited out the "efficiency" word from your op.
I do agree with you that i would not buy a 2080 even at $300, however i would buy an rx 5700.

I did not edit and do you know what proves i did not, is your reply, it quoted what I wrote at that moment of your reply, check your quote, if you want to know more about it then ask an admin of the site how reply or quote works.

Sure, you might want to remove the efficiency word from post #100 too: "certainly the gpu king of mining for now." Is that really wrong? Do the numbers say I said bs? Is there a better GPU right now regarding efficiency and density?

Efficient it is not, density maybe, my radeon 7 can get similar hashrate if pushed.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: Metroid on September 18, 2020, 01:36:05 PM
It's funny really, dont know why you trolls are so upset about the 3080, there must be something why it triggered the negativity on some trolls, its clearly the best gpu at moment, even the chinese stocked thousands of it 2 weeks prior of the launch, countless threads on baidu about 3080 farming, I myself never thought the chinese would show so much interested on the gpu because they have everything in there, why stock on 3080 while they can buy asics or better gpu performance price efficiency? factories and factories are on their doorstep, do the chinese are stupid for such action? on the contrary, they are very smart. Besides the chinese, the same can't be said for us here in the west, because the chinese dont buy something to resell for something more, they have factories and factories close to where they live, the resell thing do not work there like it works on the west, the buying spree yesterday was because people wanted to buy to resell. The resellers have thousands of bots that dont let people to buy then they buy almost everything and then they resell for 2 to 3x more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=294&v=qHogHMvZscM&feature=emb_logo


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: Metroid on September 18, 2020, 01:39:39 PM
Sure, you might want to remove the efficiency word from post #100 too: "certainly the gpu king of mining for now." Is that really wrong? Do the numbers say I said bs? Is there a better GPU right now regarding efficiency and density?

Efficient it is not, density maybe, my radeon 7 can get similar hashrate if pushed.


All right I think you need to go back to school, really, when somebody says "efficiency and density", it means both, there is not gpu with both attributes that beats the 3080. I will make the setence better,  "efficiency, density and price".


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: arielbit on September 18, 2020, 04:58:10 PM
It's funny really, dont know why you trolls are so upset about the 3080, there must be something why it triggered the negativity on some trolls, its clearly the best gpu at moment, even the chinese stocked thousands of it 2 weeks prior of the launch, countless threads on baidu about 3080 farming, I myself never thought the chinese would show so much interested on the gpu because they have everything in there, why stock on 3080 while they can buy asics or better gpu performance price efficiency? factories and factories are on their doorstep, do the chinese are stupid for such action? on the contrary, they are very smart. Besides the chinese, the same can't be said for us here in the west, because the chinese dont buy something to resell for something more, they have factories and factories close to where they live, the resell thing do not work there like it works on the west, the buying spree yesterday was because people wanted to buy to resell. The resellers have thousands of bots that dont let people to buy then they buy almost everything and then they resell for 2 to 3x more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=294&v=qHogHMvZscM&feature=emb_logo

faster cards and cheaper electricity. you plug one you get 95mhs and get paid $6per day for that card. plain and simple.

while mini dicks going around the forum where they vent their anger and frustration are trying to squeeze what little profit they got.. like living in an alternate reality(escapism) when they see 2.1W/mh on efficiency while having i dunno 5mhs? LOL who cares?.

so they always bring them their calculator to fiddle with the numbers and hope they get what they want to see..like 65mhs 3080..LOL

it is like a delicious piece of cookie where a guy just pinched a crumble in it and gave it to you and you wallow on that piece like you life depends on it. that's how bad things are for these people.



Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: rdluffy on September 18, 2020, 05:07:38 PM
This whole situation is simple
If you have a card like a 3080 that will hash more, it doesn't matter if consumes more power to the ones in China for example, paying 3 or 4 cents USD
But for the ones who pays more than 10 cents, it's essential to have the best power consumption per hash

Here in my country I pay 14cents USD and it's profitable at the moment, but I need to squeeze my cards at the maximum, so I have 1660 super and 5700XT

No need to fight guys, let's see how good 3080 and other Nvidias will be


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: badbart on September 18, 2020, 05:17:44 PM
Some of you guys are missing a point, the 3080 is very close to 5700s and Radon VIIs on efficiency BUT I would guess it can do a lot better on other algos then the AMD cards and retain a higher percentage resale price.

I have 130 GPUs and half are 5700s and half are the 1000s series NVIDIA and 500-400 series AMDs.  I plan on replacing all the old cards with the new 3000 series if AMDs new cards aren't better then the 3000 series.  


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: arielbit on September 18, 2020, 05:44:05 PM
anyway i was right about nvidia "double sell" technique. gigabyte leaked the info btw

3080, 3070 sold out

3090 for sale

3080ti/super 20gb, 3070ti/super 16gb to be released

if you spend $700 for 3080 and spend another $8-900 on 3080ti, that's more than $1500 (3090 price). i said just get the 3090 for your gaming needs.

3080 vs 3080ti may not have significant speed difference worthy of upgrading, but it is the vram (8gb to 16gb....10gb to 20gb) that will make those 3080, 3070 buyers upgrade hehe.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: Metroid on September 18, 2020, 05:54:05 PM
3080 vs 3080ti may not have significant speed difference worthy of upgrading, but it is the vram (8gb to 16gb....10gb to 20gb) that will make those 3080, 3070 buyers upgrade hehe.

I guess if that comes to happen, it will be like the 1080 x 1080ti, performance like or a bit lower than 3900 but cheaper and 384bit + 20gb, 3080ti around $1199, I guess.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: arielbit on September 18, 2020, 06:05:55 PM
3080 vs 3080ti may not have significant speed difference worthy of upgrading, but it is the vram (8gb to 16gb....10gb to 20gb) that will make those 3080, 3070 buyers upgrade hehe.

I guess if that comes to happen, it will be like the 1080 x 1080ti, performance like or a bit lower than 3900 but cheaper and 384bit + 20gb, 3080ti around $1199, I guess.

https://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-20-gb-rtx-3070-16-gb-rtx-3060-8-gb-graphics-cards-confirmed/ (https://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-20-gb-rtx-3070-16-gb-rtx-3060-8-gb-graphics-cards-confirmed/)

memory bus for both 3080 and 3080ti are both 320 bit. that's why speed improvement might be mininmal, 16gb/20gb however is a must for upcoming games textures at 4k

the only 384bit is 3090, nvidia reserved that special spot for the number 1 hehe

the way i see it is 1080 vs 1080ti difference will be the 3080/3080ti vs 3070/3070/ti. those are 320bit vs 256bit.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: Metroid on September 18, 2020, 06:21:07 PM
https://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-20-gb-rtx-3070-16-gb-rtx-3060-8-gb-graphics-cards-confirmed/ (https://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-20-gb-rtx-3070-16-gb-rtx-3060-8-gb-graphics-cards-confirmed/)

memory bus for both 3080 and 3080ti is both 320 bit. that's why speed improvement might be mininmal, 20gb however is a must for upcoming games textures at 4k

the only 384bit is 3090, nvidia reserved that special spot for the number 1 hehe

Name                                      Chip                      Memory Shaders   TMUs    ROPs   Base Clock   Boost Clock Memory Clock
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080      GA102-200-KD-A1    10 GB    8704       272       96     1440 MHz    1710 MHz    1188 MHz
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti  GA102-300-A1          20 GB    10240     320       112    1410 MHz    1740 MHz    1188 MHz
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090      GA102-300-A1         24 GB    10496     328       112    1395 MHz    1695 MHz    1219 MHz

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/nvidia-ga102.g930

On techpowerup ga102 page has this table on 3080ti, how much this might be true that is another thing hehe but I somehow believe this table to be spot on. March next year perhaps? I don't think AMD will have anything in this bracket so nvidia will charge whatever they want. I still think 10gb is not enough in 2 years time, it is today and probably next year too, getting a 10gb now and reselling in 2 years is not something i would like to do. The only thing that remains is what will be the price of the 20gb, I predict maximum $849 which if you think about is not that bad, charging $899 or $999 might be just too much for it.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: arielbit on September 18, 2020, 06:33:54 PM
https://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-20-gb-rtx-3070-16-gb-rtx-3060-8-gb-graphics-cards-confirmed/ (https://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-20-gb-rtx-3070-16-gb-rtx-3060-8-gb-graphics-cards-confirmed/)

memory bus for both 3080 and 3080ti is both 320 bit. that's why speed improvement might be mininmal, 20gb however is a must for upcoming games textures at 4k

the only 384bit is 3090, nvidia reserved that special spot for the number 1 hehe

Name                                      Chip                      Memory Shaders   TMUs    ROPs   Base Clock   Boost Clock Memory Clock
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080      GA102-200-KD-A1    10 GB    8704       272       96     1440 MHz    1710 MHz    1188 MHz
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti  GA102-300-A1          20 GB    10240     320       112    1410 MHz    1740 MHz    1188 MHz
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090      GA102-300-A1         24 GB    10496     328       112    1395 MHz    1695 MHz    1219 MHz

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/nvidia-ga102.g930

On techpowerup ga102 page has this table on 3080ti, how much this might be true that is another thing hehe but I somehow believe this table to be spot on. March next year perhaps? I don't think AMD will have anything in this bracket so nvidia will charge whatever they want. I still think 10gb is not enough in 2 years time, it is today and probably next year too, getting a 10gb now and reselling in 2 years is not something i would like to do. The only thing that remains is what will be the price of the 20gb, I predict maximum $849 which if you think about is not that bad, charging $899 or $999 might be just too much for it.

I will make the setence better,  "efficiency, density and price".

...and time with a pinch of effort is money..MONEY

there is high chance that waiting for 3080ti is not good for mining, just go for 3080. like i said earlier, the less state of the art gpus running, the faster you ROI (running 3080)



Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: aesma on September 18, 2020, 08:03:51 PM
https://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-20-gb-rtx-3070-16-gb-rtx-3060-8-gb-graphics-cards-confirmed/ (https://wccftech.com/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3080-20-gb-rtx-3070-16-gb-rtx-3060-8-gb-graphics-cards-confirmed/)

memory bus for both 3080 and 3080ti is both 320 bit. that's why speed improvement might be mininmal, 20gb however is a must for upcoming games textures at 4k

the only 384bit is 3090, nvidia reserved that special spot for the number 1 hehe

Name                                      Chip                      Memory Shaders   TMUs    ROPs   Base Clock   Boost Clock Memory Clock
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080      GA102-200-KD-A1    10 GB    8704       272       96     1440 MHz    1710 MHz    1188 MHz
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 Ti  GA102-300-A1          20 GB    10240     320       112    1410 MHz    1740 MHz    1188 MHz
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3090      GA102-300-A1         24 GB    10496     328       112    1395 MHz    1695 MHz    1219 MHz

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/nvidia-ga102.g930

On techpowerup ga102 page has this table on 3080ti, how much this might be true that is another thing hehe but I somehow believe this table to be spot on. March next year perhaps? I don't think AMD will have anything in this bracket so nvidia will charge whatever they want. I still think 10gb is not enough in 2 years time, it is today and probably next year too, getting a 10gb now and reselling in 2 years is not something i would like to do. The only thing that remains is what will be the price of the 20gb, I predict maximum $849 which if you think about is not that bad, charging $899 or $999 might be just too much for it.

The specs aren't logical, the 3080Ti like that would be as fast, maybe even faster than the 3090 ! Keep in mind there was no 2090 so the 2080Ti could be as fast as possible, but here nvidia needs something squarely between the 3080 and the 3090, not something within 1 or 2% of the 3090.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: Metroid on September 18, 2020, 08:58:29 PM
there is high chance that waiting for 3080ti is not good for mining, just go for 3080. like i said earlier, the less state of the art gpus running, the faster you ROI (running 3080)

Yeah, 3080ti is dead for mining not because it will not be a good card, is because of timing, by next year, it could be a negative net on mining and when that happens, cards like 3080ti is the least viable gpu to purchase for mining.


The specs aren't logical, the 3080Ti like that would be as fast, maybe even faster than the 3090 ! Keep in mind there was no 2090 so the 2080Ti could be as fast as possible, but here nvidia needs something squarely between the 3080 and the 3090, not something within 1 or 2% of the 3090.

Well it's next year, so nvidia usually releases titan performance on the ti model. On the 2xxx series there was no need to release a 2080ti because nvidia had already released the 2080ti from the get go with the others, yeah it could have been the 2080ti super but it never came out, so reason i said is going to be like 2016-2017, I think the 1080ti was pretty similar to titan pascal.

GeForce GTX 1080 Ti    March 10, 2017    GP102-350-K1-A1 3584:224:88  2,816    1480    1582    11000    130.2    331.5    11    484    352    10609 (11340)    332 (354)    166 (177)    250    $699

NVIDIA TITAN X            August 2, 2016    GP102-400-A1    3584:224:96    3,072    1417    1531    10000    136      317.4    12    480    384    10157 (10974)    317 (343)    159 (171)    N/A

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GeForce_10_series

Whattomine updated and added the 3080: 86 mhs, 210 watts, by that stats the 3080 is the best gpu for mining https://whattomine.com/gpus


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: philipma1957 on September 18, 2020, 09:42:42 PM
Sure, you might want to remove the efficiency word from post #100 too: "certainly the gpu king of mining for now." Is that really wrong? Do the numbers say I said bs? Is there a better GPU right now regarding efficiency and density?

Efficient it is not, density maybe, my radeon 7 can get similar hashrate if pushed.


All right I think you need to go back to school, really, when somebody says "efficiency and density", it means both, there is not gpu with both attributes that beats the 3080. I will make the setence better,  "efficiency, density and price".

and I will make it worse then amd cards due to no availability.

I could not get one. I know some that paid 749 for a gigabyte that will not arrive until 11/2

I can get 2 amd 5700 for 718 in 2 days.


I am not knocking the 3080 I am just saying meh.

Than said I would built out one with 4 of these today

https://www.ebay.com/itm/NVIDIA-GEFORCE-RTX-3080-10GB-FOUNDERS-EDITION-ORDER-SHIPPED/284016500009?


but the filthy cocksucker has marked them up from 699 to 1650

and if I build out my last board

below at a nice price of 105

https://www.ebay.com/itm/biostar-TB250-BTC-D-Pro-Motherboard-Mining/124217882169?

it won't be with 1650 priced 3080 cards.

but if some had 4 for 2800 I would consider it.

So for now the 3080 is a terrible card with zero value since it is costing over 2x its price on ebay and sold out everywhere else.

But anyone got one of the blower styles for 699 please let me know ::)


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: Metroid on September 18, 2020, 09:48:49 PM
and I will make it worse then amd cards due to no availability.

Miners should never pay more than $749 for it, up to $749 is okay. The best thing at moment is walk away from it and await patiently.

There is a video about its hashrate on eth, guy got 100 mhs using 250 watts. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMVLTECQoZc


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: DavidC1 on September 19, 2020, 02:11:10 AM
and I will make it worse then amd cards due to no availability.

Miners should never pay more than $749 for it, up to $749 is okay. The best thing at moment is walk away from it and await patiently.

There is a video about its hashrate on eth, guy got 100 mhs using 250 watts. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMVLTECQoZc

We'll see if it actually gets that. On Ampere, rather than crashing the memory will generate more and more errors. Actually it probably was somewhat true in the previous generation too, but to a much lesser degree.

I have 3 Polaris cards running. 1 card is weaker in this aspect than the rest. None of the cards get memory errors nor do they get incorrect shares. But the weaker card needs the memory clock to be backed down little bit further otherwise the effective hash rate drops compared to the reported hash rate because it'll get less shares.

I've seen other systems on Etherscan where the effective hash is consistently 5-7% lower than the reported hash rate. This is what happens when the card is pushed too hard but not so much that monitoring utilities are able to see the problems.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: wOvAN on September 19, 2020, 07:40:28 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OHK9JSiTAo

~100mh - 240w


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: rdluffy on September 19, 2020, 05:01:35 PM
guy got 100 mhs using 250 watts. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMVLTECQoZc

It's a good hashrate, but there's a choice to be made, maybe 2 5700xt hashing 54Mhs each one will be a better choice, with bios mod people are getting 56Mhs
Here in my country 2 radeon 5700 are cheaper than one RXT 3080 and it's easy to buy

I'll probably buy one if I have the chance with a reasonable price


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: arielbit on September 19, 2020, 05:57:10 PM
https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3090-gaming-performance-review-leaks-out (https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3090-gaming-performance-review-leaks-out)

3090 benchmarks vs 3080

games +10%
synthetic +20% (3d mark)


mining performance tends to reflect to synthetic performance in difference. if 3080 is 100mhs, then probably 3090 is 120-130mhs.

if 3090 will hash efficient enough @ 133.33mhs.. in a 3 card rig setup, will work like 4x 3080 @ 400mhs..

but i hope 120-130mhs is for 3080ti not for 3090, 3090 will be sweet for 150mhs.

if these asics are still getting bought, a x3 3090 rig and x4 3080 rig is close enough in density. also if you think about resell value and being able to mine other coins 3080 is already a winner and 3090 is reasonable enough versus ETH ASIC.  

500mhs eth asic is 4689$ at 750w

https://www.cryptominerbros.com/product/innosilicon-a10-pro-500mh-s-ethash-miner/ (https://www.cryptominerbros.com/product/innosilicon-a10-pro-500mh-s-ethash-miner/)

knowing these ASICs are getting bought, 3080 is a no brainer to purchase for mining eth ;)

I will not be surprised if ASIC trolls will come full force against 30xx series for mining LOL


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: Metroid on September 19, 2020, 06:25:51 PM
guy got 100 mhs using 250 watts. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMVLTECQoZc

It's a good hashrate, but there's a choice to be made, maybe 2 5700xt hashing 54Mhs each one will be a better choice, with bios mod people are getting 56Mhs
Here in my country 2 radeon 5700 are cheaper than one RXT 3080 and it's easy to buy

I'll probably buy one if I have the chance with a reasonable price

The problem with 2x more video cards is management, twice more risers, twice more problems, twice more psu cables. The 3080 is easily the best buy, now yeah prices vary depending on the country but I believe once this turmoil is over, things will get back to normal and the price of the 3080 will be very close to msrp which in turn will make it attractive again.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: arielbit on September 19, 2020, 06:41:28 PM
guy got 100 mhs using 250 watts. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMVLTECQoZc

It's a good hashrate, but there's a choice to be made, maybe 2 5700xt hashing 54Mhs each one will be a better choice, with bios mod people are getting 56Mhs
Here in my country 2 radeon 5700 are cheaper than one RXT 3080 and it's easy to buy

I'll probably buy one if I have the chance with a reasonable price

The problem with 2x more video cards is management, twice more risers, twice more problems, twice more psu cables. The 3080 is easily the best buy, now yeah prices vary depending on the country but I believe once this turmoil is over, things will get back to normal and the price of the 3080 will be very close to msrp which in turn will make it attractive again.

mining rig:

1 psu: 10-12 years warranty               (enough pcie for 1200-1600w models)
1 motherboard: 2-3 years warranty     (3-4 pcie slots are common)
1 ram: lifetime warranty
1 boot disk: cheap, can be usb, ssd hdd.
1 processor: very high chance it won't have problems
3-4 risers: easy management

note: typically psu will run their best efficiency at 50% load, 3080 @ 100mhs 250w is 750w. with 1600w psu is very near the peak efficiency of psu, of course just tweak it out for personal preference but the setup is within the range of peak efficiency curve


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: Metroid on September 19, 2020, 07:05:31 PM
guy got 100 mhs using 250 watts. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMVLTECQoZc

It's a good hashrate, but there's a choice to be made, maybe 2 5700xt hashing 54Mhs each one will be a better choice, with bios mod people are getting 56Mhs
Here in my country 2 radeon 5700 are cheaper than one RXT 3080 and it's easy to buy

I'll probably buy one if I have the chance with a reasonable price

The problem with 2x more video cards is management, twice more risers, twice more problems, twice more psu cables. The 3080 is easily the best buy, now yeah prices vary depending on the country but I believe once this turmoil is over, things will get back to normal and the price of the 3080 will be very close to msrp which in turn will make it attractive again.

mining rig:

1 psu: 10-12 years warranty               (enough pcie for 1200-1600w models)
1 motherboard: 2-3 years warranty     (3-4 pcie slots are common)
1 ram: lifetime warranty
1 boot disk: cheap, can be usb, ssd hdd.
1 processor: very high chance it won't have problems
3-4 risers: easy management

note: typically psu will run their best efficiency at 50% load, 3080 @ 100mhs 250w is 750w. with 1600w psu is very near the peak efficiency of psu, of course just tweak it out for personal preference but the setup is within the range of peak efficiency curve

Yeah I agree with everything you said, you do your homework ehhe, still, mining is a lot of work, I prefer trading, much more money and risks too. The warranty if honoured makes things easier to roi.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: arielbit on September 19, 2020, 07:13:19 PM
guy got 100 mhs using 250 watts. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dMVLTECQoZc

It's a good hashrate, but there's a choice to be made, maybe 2 5700xt hashing 54Mhs each one will be a better choice, with bios mod people are getting 56Mhs
Here in my country 2 radeon 5700 are cheaper than one RXT 3080 and it's easy to buy

I'll probably buy one if I have the chance with a reasonable price

The problem with 2x more video cards is management, twice more risers, twice more problems, twice more psu cables. The 3080 is easily the best buy, now yeah prices vary depending on the country but I believe once this turmoil is over, things will get back to normal and the price of the 3080 will be very close to msrp which in turn will make it attractive again.

mining rig:

1 psu: 10-12 years warranty               (enough pcie for 1200-1600w models)
1 motherboard: 2-3 years warranty     (3-4 pcie slots are common)
1 ram: lifetime warranty
1 boot disk: cheap, can be usb, ssd hdd.
1 processor: very high chance it won't have problems
3-4 risers: easy management

note: typically psu will run their best efficiency at 50% load, 3080 @ 100mhs 250w is 750w. with 1600w psu is very near the peak efficiency of psu, of course just tweak it out for personal preference but the setup is within the range of peak efficiency curve

Yeah I agree with everything you said, you do your homework ehhe, still, mining is a lot of work, I prefer trading, much more money and risks too. The warranty if honoured makes things easier to roi.

you as a trader is wise to monitor the mining world hehehe, what happens in the "trading dimension" (where is full of shit and "abstract-manipulative-secret" words) correlates with the "mining dimension" ...in short, "mining dimension" is "one of the signals" where a trader should watch  ;D


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: Metroid on September 19, 2020, 07:43:26 PM
you as a trader is wise to monitor the mining world hehehe, what happens in the "trading dimension" (where is full of shit and "abstract-manipulative-secret" words) correlates with the "mining dimension" ...in short, "mining dimension" is "one of the signals" where a trader should watch  ;D

hehe, well I have been in this website since 2013, yeah good traders are well informed about mining because that is where have been the source of the coins, they need to be, trust me, but things have been changing due to pos and that has been bad to the ecosystem, any coin that doesn't need to be mined is bad, look what happened in 2017-2018, icos, none of them needed to be mined, look what happened, it crashed everything, people had no idea about it, they thought icos were like eth or btc and they bought without thinking, mining at least there is a total number of minted coins everyday, with things like defi we have no idea about if billions of coins can be created at whim, so you can't invest on that thing if you dont know where that thing is headed, defi and icos rules can change anytime, with pow rules take time to change and that is not easily changed. So if you understand about mining, you will be a good trader because you know the depths of it, its limitation and from where it can go. To me all coins that can't be mined are scams, personal opinion of course.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: rdluffy on September 19, 2020, 08:33:19 PM
The problem with 2x more video cards is management, twice more risers, twice more problems, twice more psu cables. The 3080 is easily the best buy, now yeah prices vary depending on the country but I believe once this turmoil is over, things will get back to normal and the price of the 3080 will be very close to msrp which in turn will make it attractive again.

There's no doubt, less cards = easier to deal with
And Nvidia ones are easy do tweak and maintain than AMDs, but at least in my case, I'm only mining in a small rig, with the USD price, is worthing again in my country
In another countries, we have to wait a lot of time to have a good price on these cards, but even with the suggested price here, it's only 12 months to "roi" RTX 3080, a good deal in my opinion



Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: aesma on September 19, 2020, 10:05:37 PM
I almost want to buy a 3080 now, but fortunately for my wallet it's not available anywhere !

I will wait for AMD's offering to make a more informed choice, and maybe benefit from better prices/better cards.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: philipma1957 on September 20, 2020, 03:15:24 AM
I almost want to buy a 3080 now, but fortunately for my wallet it's not available anywhere !

I will wait for AMD's offering to make a more informed choice, and maybe benefit from better prices/better cards.

So you plan to wait until Oct 28th.?

I guess a really large farm or one rig should wait.

But if you are doing two,three or four rigs.

why not do 1 rig now with the amd 5600

they make for very good four card rigs.

I use eight slot boards with a intel 4400t a stick of ram and a bitmain apw3+
four amd 5600 gpus
the rigs are about 1250 to build.

they use around 458  they do about 160mh they earn around $6.40 a day 12kwatts power at 10 cents is 1.20

so 5.20 profit so 240 days for payoff.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: Dowper_ on September 20, 2020, 06:48:18 AM
I almost want to buy a 3080 now, but fortunately for my wallet it's not available anywhere !

I will wait for AMD's offering to make a more informed choice, and maybe benefit from better prices/better cards.

So you plan to wait until Oct 28th.?

I guess a really large farm or one rig should wait.

But if you are doing two,three or four rigs.

why not do 1 rig now with the amd 5600

they make for very good four card rigs.

I use eight slot boards with a intel 4400t a stick of ram and a bitmain apw3+
four amd 5600 gpus
the rigs are about 1250 to build.

they use around 458  they do about 160mh they earn around $6.40 a day 12kwatts power at 10 cents is 1.20

so 5.20 profit so 240 days for payoff.

5600 are 6GB, I wouldn't buy them.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: aesma on September 20, 2020, 03:19:15 PM
I almost want to buy a 3080 now, but fortunately for my wallet it's not available anywhere !

I will wait for AMD's offering to make a more informed choice, and maybe benefit from better prices/better cards.

So you plan to wait until Oct 28th.?

I guess a really large farm or one rig should wait.

But if you are doing two,three or four rigs.

why not do 1 rig now with the amd 5600

they make for very good four card rigs.

I use eight slot boards with a intel 4400t a stick of ram and a bitmain apw3+
four amd 5600 gpus
the rigs are about 1250 to build.

they use around 458  they do about 160mh they earn around $6.40 a day 12kwatts power at 10 cents is 1.20

so 5.20 profit so 240 days for payoff.

In truth it would be a gaming rig that would mine when I'm not gaming (so most of the time).

I can't really mine where I'm at now, or I would need to lease a hangar or something, which I don't really want to do. I'm looking at houses and will buy one large enough with some land to mine in part of the house, and maybe build a hangar for it later, get three-phases power to it, etc. The authorities might think I'm growing cannabis but since I won't be it doesn't matter.

Also my electricity is 0,19$/kWh


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: DrG on September 20, 2020, 04:10:22 PM
1 card is also easier to sell than 2 cards. nVidia is also easier to sell at a higher % of initial cost compared to AMD. It doesn't make sense because AMD cards typically increase in performance as times goes by relative to their nVidia counterparts but that's how the consumer market perceive the 2 brands.

Being able to sell 1060 3GB cards for $125 (purchased at $200) after 3 years of mining is wonderful. The RX 470s with 4GB of memory perform better in games and are still mining but don't command as much on resale market. The power of branding.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: DrG on September 20, 2020, 04:32:17 PM
you as a trader is wise to monitor the mining world hehehe, what happens in the "trading dimension" (where is full of shit and "abstract-manipulative-secret" words) correlates with the "mining dimension" ...in short, "mining dimension" is "one of the signals" where a trader should watch  ;D

hehe, well I have been in this website since 2013, yeah good traders are well informed about mining because that is where have been the source of the coins, they need to be, trust me, but things have been changing due to pos and that has been bad to the ecosystem, any coin that doesn't need to be mined is bad, look what happened in 2017-2018, icos, none of them needed to be mined, look what happened, it crashed everything, people had no idea about it, they thought icos were like eth or btc and they bought without thinking, mining at least there is a total number of minted coins everyday, with things like defi we have no idea about if billions of coins can be created at whim, so you can't invest on that thing if you dont know where that thing is headed, defi and icos rules can change anytime, with pow rules take time to change and that is not easily changed. So if you understand about mining, you will be a good trader because you know the depths of it, its limitation and from where it can go. To me all coins that can't be mined are scams, personal opinion of course.

This is what a lot of the naive new people don't understand. Mined coins take minutes and sometimes hours of work to create and have a group of people (miners, pools) who support the coin. Plopping out 10 billion coins of some wonderful new coin that says it can do a myriad of things without having any functional implementation just makes it hopium. The quick traders will pass it around like a hot potato taking equity from naive new entrants looking for a quick win.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: philipma1957 on September 20, 2020, 09:47:41 PM
I almost want to buy a 3080 now, but fortunately for my wallet it's not available anywhere !

I will wait for AMD's offering to make a more informed choice, and maybe benefit from better prices/better cards.

So you plan to wait until Oct 28th.?

I guess a really large farm or one rig should wait.

But if you are doing two,three or four rigs.

why not do 1 rig now with the amd 5600

they make for very good four card rigs.

I use eight slot boards with a intel 4400t a stick of ram and a bitmain apw3+
four amd 5600 gpus
the rigs are about 1250 to build.

they use around 458  they do about 160mh they earn around $6.40 a day 12kwatts power at 10 cents is 1.20

so 5.20 profit so 240 days for payoff.

5600 are 6GB, I wouldn't buy them.

good more for me.

 as there is no issue in them eating up the dag for at least 2 years.  in that time my money will be made 2 maybe 3x.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: P00P135 on September 20, 2020, 10:08:20 PM
People said they wouldnt buy 1660's cause they were 6GB and i've already made my money 4x over on those and they still have a decent resell value.  ::)


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: philipma1957 on September 21, 2020, 02:38:56 AM
People said they wouldnt buy 1660's cause they were 6GB and i've already made my money 4x over on those and they still have a decent resell value.  ::)

yep.  I am getting amd 5600 under 250 usd.

so 80mh for 500.  130 for mobo ram psu cpu or 1130 a 4 cardrig

 I Make 4 card rigs easy peasy to cool,

 160 mh earns about 160 x 0.0389 or $6.22 usd power cost is 12 kwatts a day or 1.20 so I clear 5 a day payout

is about 226 days for roi as I have a free power deal.

 I put in 5000 since august 1 and have got back 1600.00 as some days payouts were higher.

Any luck at all and gear is paid off by Jan 1


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: SalvajeX on September 23, 2020, 08:27:34 AM
folks, were there any real 3090 results? Or nothing trustworthy yet?


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: Lucky - Luciano on September 23, 2020, 06:27:37 PM
folks, were there any real 3090 results? Or nothing trustworthy yet?

Here are the results: https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3090-eth-mining-performance-leaks-out


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: Metroid on September 23, 2020, 06:52:16 PM
folks, were there any real 3090 results? Or nothing trustworthy yet?

Here are the results: https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3090-eth-mining-performance-leaks-out

Those results are somewhat not straight foward, 3080 supposed to be 95 mhs and 3090 117 mhs, I guess nvidia marketing paid to that website to hype 3090, so they can sell them all. Anyway real user videos showed that 3080 is doing 95 mhs with some minimal settings.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: JayDDee on September 24, 2020, 05:06:12 PM
3090FE mines Eth at 105 MH/s according to THW.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: Metroid on September 24, 2020, 06:28:19 PM
3090FE mines Eth at 105 MH/s according to THW.

They probably dont know what the hell they are doing, card can do 117mhs default, 120 mhs with minimum efforts and 140 mhs with maximum efforts hehe


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: JayDDee on September 24, 2020, 07:03:37 PM
3090FE mines Eth at 105 MH/s according to THW.

They probably dont know what the hell they are doing, card can do 117mhs default, 120 mhs with minimum efforts and 140 mhs with maximum efforts hehe

They were testing, not tweaking. I haven't seen those numbers and they don't mean much with no context.

It doesn't really matter, double the price of the 3080 for less than 50% more hash doesn't add up.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: Metroid on September 24, 2020, 07:38:25 PM
They were testing, not tweaking. I haven't seen those numbers and they don't mean much with no context.

It doesn't really matter, double the price of the 3080 for less than 50% more hash doesn't add up.

Nothing adds up. I saw people on 2018 buying voltas for $3000 to mine eth, more mindless than that I have yet to see.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: Elder III on September 24, 2020, 11:44:31 PM
Way too power hungry to be of interest for mining.  Perhaps there will be breakthroughs later on to reduce power, but right now it's not at all interesting.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: Metroid on September 24, 2020, 11:46:51 PM
Way too power hungry to be of interest for mining.  Perhaps there will be breakthroughs later on to reduce power, but right now it's not at all interesting.

You can reduce power but the question is how much will reduce hashrate.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: MRizkBV on September 25, 2020, 11:28:59 PM
Any update on the 3090 hash rate? I am interested in getting one, and wanted to know how well it does in ETH.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: Metroid on September 25, 2020, 11:48:17 PM
Any update on the 3090 hash rate? I am interested in getting one, and wanted to know how well it does in ETH.

Troll at redit saying he got 82 mhs with a 3090 on stock.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: safar1980 on September 26, 2020, 12:14:24 PM
https://www.ixbt.com/news/2020/09/22/geforce-rtx-3090.html

https://i.ibb.co/kgSDjx2/NVIDIA-Geforce-RTX-3090-Mining-768x576.jpg (https://ibb.co/ccr801h)
rtx-3090
120-122 MH/s - 300Watt


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: Metroid on October 01, 2020, 04:21:02 AM
"I have a RTX 3080 that wants to run 930ish to 1050ish MHz core while mining despite being set to a constant 1300MHz @ 0.7V in afterburner. This is decreasing my hashrate from about 101MH/s to 93 MH/s. I'm thinking this probably has something to do with P states, I tried turning off the CUDA Force P2 State in nvidiaprofileinspector, but no luck. Memory seems to be running at my desired fullspeed of +1000MHz (21gbps)"

https://www.reddit.com/r/gpumining/comments/j2zgkh/rtx_3080_core_downclocking/

A lot of people bought a 3080 and so far nobody has said anything, it reminds me when the vega came out, nobody said anything about its hashrate on monero, now we know why nobody is saying anything, it does 100 mhs, yes we saw this value sometimes but it was from strange sources and not from a random 3080 user. A troll at reddit said his 3090 does only 80 mhs, I wonder why he was saying such lie, probably discouraging people buying the cards for mining I guess.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: fmz89 on October 02, 2020, 12:40:58 PM
folks, were there any real 3090 results? Or nothing trustworthy yet?

Here are the results: https://videocardz.com/newz/nvidia-geforce-rtx-3090-eth-mining-performance-leaks-out
still not viable compared rx5700 in efficeny&price
nvidia only care with gamer, the card looks beautiful & massive, with 10K+ cuda core other algo no one will beat him pretty sure


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: arielbit on October 02, 2020, 03:47:38 PM
A lot of people bought a 3080 and so far nobody has said anything, it reminds me when the vega came out, nobody said anything about its hashrate on monero, now we know why nobody is saying anything, it does 100 mhs, yes we saw this value sometimes but it was from strange sources and not from a random 3080 user. A troll at reddit said his 3090 does only 80 mhs, I wonder why he was saying such lie, probably discouraging people buying the cards for mining I guess.

they think spreading lies will make their mining more profitable LOL specially the ones with old cards...like someone around here  ::)


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: Metroid on October 02, 2020, 04:12:02 PM
still not viable compared rx5700 in efficeny&price
nvidia only care with gamer, the card looks beautiful & massive, with 10K+ cuda core other algo no one will beat him pretty sure


The way I see by have seen the 3090 benchmarks on other algos, only eth had a amazing boost, because of what nvidia did to the memory here, all other algos was a little better than the 2080ti. I guess the next step here is mining software update to really use 3xxx series better.

they think spreading lies will make their mining more profitable LOL specially the ones with old cards...like someone around here  ::)

Yeah, usually benchmarks come the next day or so, on vega and now the 3080 they never came in the next day which makes you wonder the reason behind it. Vega was the most profitable gpu to date in all history of mining, at its peak, a single vega used to earn almost 20 usd per day per card on monero and you could not find anybody talking about it. I had inside info about it but since I'm not a miner, I never purchased one myself to see it.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: arielbit on October 02, 2020, 10:52:50 PM
they think spreading lies will make their mining more profitable LOL specially the ones with old cards...like someone around here  ::)

Yeah, usually benchmarks come the next day or so, on vega and now the 3080 they never came in the next day which makes you wonder the reason behind it. Vega was the most profitable gpu to date in all history of mining, at its peak, a single vega used to earn almost 20 usd per day per card on monero and you could not find anybody talking about it. I had inside info about it but since I'm not a miner, I never purchased one myself to see it.

even expanding to bigger mining farms (scaling), density is still a "major" feature. imagine managing 30 cards vs  300 or more cards, with bigger farms you will have another headache/expense --->someone/ a person skilled enough for that additional management/troubleshooting etc., space/shelves, and electrical lines and outlets etc..

at the bigger scheme of things, managing 500 cards vs 1000 cards you'll get how much reduced work is the 'minus 500'.. at 30 cards vs 60 cards you might not feel the 'extra work' very much.

remember ASICs expensiveness/price are not just derived from just being efficient it is also derived from being dense. like 1 unit for (insert very high hashrate here)


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: 2horrock on January 18, 2021, 04:21:13 PM
3090FE mines Eth at 105 MH/s according to THW.

They probably dont know what the hell they are doing, card can do 117mhs default, 120 mhs with minimum efforts and 140 mhs with maximum efforts hehe

Do you have any advice on achieving those numbers? I am trying to tune my rig, but got only 120 MH/s. Surprisingly, those values are from Windows, the same exact setup (minig software, overclocking) in Linux shows only 110 MH/s.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: Metroid on January 18, 2021, 04:26:31 PM
Do you have any advice on achieving those numbers? I am trying to tune my rig, but got only 120 MH/s. Surprisingly, those values are from Windows, the same exact setup (minig software, overclocking) in Linux shows only 110 MH/s.

120mhs with minimum efforts, yes, maximum efforts 140mhs plus will be with a timming on fly program, for example, ethpill by ogodagirl, not sure if her team will create such program.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: Daltonik on December 25, 2021, 12:21:42 PM
There was information about the release date and specifications of the new flagship RTX 3090ti that MSI SUPRIM X  plans to release its card on GPU 102 at the end of January, the video card will have the following parameters:
GPU Clusters         84
CUDAs             10752
RT Cores               84
Tensors/TMUs       336
Base Clock           1560 MHz   
Boost Clock          1860 MHz
Memory Clock      1325 MHz   
Memory             24 GB GDDR6X
Bus                      384-bit
Memory Clock       21 Gbps
Bandwidth           1008 GB/s
TDP                      450 W
MSRP                  $1699

source: https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-3090-ti.c3829
            https://videocardz.com/newz/msi-geforce-rtx-3090-ti-suprim-x-to-launch-on-january-27th-a-leaked-document-confirms


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: Daltonik on January 03, 2022, 07:30:51 AM
According to videocardz as they say with reference to the Korean forum https://quasarzone.com/bbs/qf_vga/views/4665297 the EVGA RTX 3090 Ti Kingpin graphics card can be equipped with two 12-pin power connectors, which indicates a possible consumption of as much as 1275 W it would be interesting to know about the performance of this monster.
https://videocardz.com/newz/evga-geforce-rtx-3090-ti-kingpin-to-require-dual-12-pin-power-connectors

https://i.ibb.co/KqpXRkQ/2022-01-03-122938.jpg (https://imgbb.com/)


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: FP91G on January 05, 2022, 01:49:53 PM
Today, we are announcing the GeForce RTX 3050. It brings the performance and efficiency of the NVIDIA Ampere architecture to more gamers than ever before.

GeForce RTX 3050 graphics cards come equipped with 2nd generation RT Cores for ray tracing and 3rd gen Tensor Cores for DLSS and AI. For the first time, you can play ray traced games on a 50-class GPU at over 60 FPS. RTX-powered ray tracing and DLSS are the new standard in gaming and the RTX 3050 makes them more accessible than ever. It further comes equipped with 8GB of GDDR6 memory.

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/geforce-rtx-3050-graphics-cards/
https://www.theverge.com/2022/1/4/22864989/nvidia-rtx-3050-gpu-ray-tracing-dlss-price-release-date-ces-2022


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: sxemini on January 05, 2022, 02:40:51 PM
Today, we are announcing the GeForce RTX 3050. It brings the performance and efficiency of the NVIDIA Ampere architecture to more gamers than ever before.

GeForce RTX 3050 graphics cards come equipped with 2nd generation RT Cores for ray tracing and 3rd gen Tensor Cores for DLSS and AI. For the first time, you can play ray traced games on a 50-class GPU at over 60 FPS. RTX-powered ray tracing and DLSS are the new standard in gaming and the RTX 3050 makes them more accessible than ever. It further comes equipped with 8GB of GDDR6 memory.

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/geforce-rtx-3050-graphics-cards/
https://www.theverge.com/2022/1/4/22864989/nvidia-rtx-3050-gpu-ray-tracing-dlss-price-release-date-ces-2022

Does it have LHR is the question :D

lol someone read this comment under the first article?

Gaymer Tears Mining Inc • 8 hours ago
"Thanks Nvidia! We just got our shipment into the farm. Hashing at just under 35MH/s. Wish we had agreed to more. Don't think this first 10000 are going to cut it. Oh well let us know when the next batch is ready and we'll take em all! Thanks again!"

This show how important it is for nvidia that all gamers get a card. I think they selling non LHR cards also at this time. This helping to centralize ETH mining more and more, because only big farms getting a lot of cards.


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: ccplz on January 09, 2022, 01:21:05 AM
Today, we are announcing the GeForce RTX 3050. It brings the performance and efficiency of the NVIDIA Ampere architecture to more gamers than ever before.

GeForce RTX 3050 graphics cards come equipped with 2nd generation RT Cores for ray tracing and 3rd gen Tensor Cores for DLSS and AI. For the first time, you can play ray traced games on a 50-class GPU at over 60 FPS. RTX-powered ray tracing and DLSS are the new standard in gaming and the RTX 3050 makes them more accessible than ever. It further comes equipped with 8GB of GDDR6 memory.

https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/geforce-rtx-3050-graphics-cards/
https://www.theverge.com/2022/1/4/22864989/nvidia-rtx-3050-gpu-ray-tracing-dlss-price-release-date-ces-2022

Does it have LHR is the question :D

lol someone read this comment under the first article?

Gaymer Tears Mining Inc • 8 hours ago
"Thanks Nvidia! We just got our shipment into the farm. Hashing at just under 35MH/s. Wish we had agreed to more. Don't think this first 10000 are going to cut it. Oh well let us know when the next batch is ready and we'll take em all! Thanks again!"

This show how important it is for nvidia that all gamers get a card. I think they selling non LHR cards also at this time. This helping to centralize ETH mining more and more, because only big farms getting a lot of cards.
pretty sure this is a troll post. it's pretty easy to rile up gamers nowadays due to the scarcity of GPUs


Title: Re: New NVIDIA Geforce RTX 30 series GPUs
Post by: Daltonik on April 03, 2022, 11:14:51 AM
Something no one will tell about the released 3090 Ti, it seems to me that with its MSRP of $1,999, which of course will be much higher and the TDP of 450 W with a hashrate of up to 135 MH/s, it is unlikely to become as popular as for example 3090 on hashrate.no/ETH you can see that her POI is 321 days versus 256 days for 3090. :)