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A group of failed scammers and hackers have recently made up a team to basically hack other coins this team is lead by muddafudda and I will explain to you why they are completely lying about everything.

Muddafudda himself has created countless shitcoins that are nothing but clones and bring no innovation to crypto currency. He is using this group to attack other coins and defend his own by doing this he will attempt to make his own coins increase in value.

Another member in this group is R3wt, R3wt is a known scammer and has recently pulled a GOX and scammed people that were using his exchange by "losing" the coins in his exchange into his personal wallet.

The more prominent members in this team are using sock puppet accounts to make it look like they have genuine support but don't be fooled they go under the guise of cleaning up the crypto market while in reality they're scammers just like Mark Karpelfatfuck that just want to make a quick buck.

I will be updating this thread with new developments and lead or any new info that I get on these scammers and how they are attempting to deceive you.

better get your sockpuppets in here to promote this topic. else you won't convince any noobs....

Again with the baseless accusations I see? And like I told you all in the other thread of course they will try to resort to some sort of attack off some baseless accusation to get their way. You just proved my point you imbecile.

You threw baseless accusations in your post too.... Eye for an Eye.... you imbecile  :D

Nothing wrong with this idea of having some regulation in the altcoin world to protect newbies and investors.

Just like what governments already do.  Control the influx of new shitcoins.  Make a higher bar for them to enter through application fees.  And create an organization to enforce (kill off) coins that do not comply using those funds.

I don't understand why that's so hard to grasp.

Lol@ extortions negative trust rating, I read his trust feedback, and this guy..is a piece of shit. Fuck You Extortion.

Hugh Madbro?

It's impossible to be fully anonymous, even using TOR btw. Don't be fooled that using TOR would allow you to do crimes and get away with it Extortion. LOL

I am curious... what are the baseless accusations?

Muddafudda certainly made his own shitcoins ... everyone knows this.
I wasn't aware R3wt also made a shitcoin, but he did... amp, or something like that.
He also ran OpenEx, which failed, and a lot of coins were 'lost'.

They publicly claimed they wish to ddos other coins, and extort devs illegally for money, if they don't comply. It's in the thread, posted by the members themselves.

I'm not sure what part of his post you consider false. It's all in the shitcoin thread itself.

You're just a little butt hurt that you're "liberate the USA" shitcoin is going to be hit hard. I have never wished a coin destroyed before, but you have finally given me a reason.

True(he also scammed r3wt and extorted r3wt and other coin "devs" who paid him to work on their coins.)


Also True(and Nanotokens(a collaboration with muddafudda, who scammed r3wt with a huge premine and easily forkable parameters), and Jcoin back in the day(windows only client, no source code, not opensource, never really took off).

I hear he's working on a new exchange already do not confuse the poor coding of justin(the codeveloper of openex) with the work of r3wt. I highly doubt he stole anything. the code quality of openex was terrible at best. like taking candy from a baby.

You seem hell bent on ruining r3wts name. i saw several times where he stated he would not participate in the group, but supported the message of the OP. i did notice a user attempting to start a service where they were charging to get coins "white listed".
Only the parts where he lies/misspeaks.

Huh? The only time I have even posted r3wts name is in association with the shitcoin thread, because, as you say, he supports it. If a person supports illegal activity, I am not so sure anyone else can ruin his name ...  he sort of managed to do it to himself.

Forking coins isn't illegal. its abusing the protocol at best, but lets face it. if a coins protocol allows it to be forked via 51% attacks, how is it supposed to be a viable form of currency in the digital age, so i argue your bubblegum leave it to beaver logic discredits you, and the opposition of that thread.

ddosing pools and services, that's an entirely different matter.

I don't mean forking, I am talking about extortion. And if I remember right, ddosing pools were also discussed in that shitcoin thread as an extra bonus.

They discuss  charging devs a 'fee' if they don't comply with them, and if they don't, they will ddos them. That is the illegality I am talking about.

where did r3wt mention extorting people? you keep mixing your accusations between r3wt and "they", so i have to ask. are you high, or does everyone from hollywood parade about in this manner, throwing out accusations without being able to back them up?

Agree there probably is not a law in any country which says "forking a coin is illegal". But depending on what the fork does and causes, can be illegal and/or grounds for liability to pay damages. For example, a fork causes all coins and transactions to be deleted => damages caused = coin's marketcap before the fork.

rofl.  :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Look, it's the creator of shitbox "independence coin"

Unless it's innovative, WE DON'T NEED ANYMORE FUCKING COINS.

back in the day, r3wt was notorious. not for being a scammer, but for being untrustworthy. He had several alt accounts he would use to troll the forum. it was very annoying. I posted a thread a long time ago calling him out because he admitted to these untrustworthy acts and all his attempted scams in some obscure thread that no one would ever see. I've noticed him posting from time to time, and i signed up and used his exchange briefly. he didn't take anything from me, but that certainly doesn't mean he's not the same person that was premining coins, scamming with his fake faucets, and being a troll.

just my 2 centz

I should have been clearer then ... members of the group wish to extort people, ddos pools, etc.

If a person supports said group, they are supporting their actions. If r3wt  feels differently, I would hope he'd post his differences with those members in that thread.

i don't recall seeing anyone say anything about ddos'ing or extortion at all (prove it) so pinning that on ALL of us that support the idea that shit coins are out of control is silly. All it would take is one of you shit coin supporters to pretend to side with us with some new account and post some ludicrous attack idea and then the rest of you can parade it around as though we ALL advocate some form of extremist digital terrorism. The REAL fact is a lot of people have expressed there is a growing problem and we're tired of it and have for the most part used that topic as a place to discuss what to do about it.. and your ranting here seems inaccurate to say the least and at best childish and what in gods name is motivating you to be so militant about supporting shitcoins no matter how bad they are ? The answer is simple.. you either are a holder of some pretty bad scummy shit coins and/or you are posting/making them.

the fact you refuse to admit there is any kind of problem and you refuse to address anything i or other have said directly proves you have no leg to stand on
except to to single out one or two of the guys supporting the clean up idea by changing the subject and attacking them personally
and as far as Rewt and Mudda goes.. they have acknowledged any past wrong doing if applicable and have admitted many times if their coins they have released or made for others
falls within the criteria for a forking they will gladly put themselves on the chopping block but you seem to be deliberately overlooking this part ..to make them look bad.
i think your a naive child by your tone and content on this matter.. you are obviously unaware most of these coin cloners have done so
because they were asked to and paid for it. So why are you now crucifying ONLY the guys who made a coin and not who bought a coin to post here ?
do you know how many times that goes on ?

the point is we (some of us with a brain anyway) acknowledge there is a problem and we are looking at ways to address the problem. (This forum seems unwilling to do anything)
you deny there is a problem at all and your seem entitled to make a mess of our scene we started long before most of you came along and ruined it.
ever heard of a real-estate listing that mentions it's in a good neighborhood ?
Well our neighborhood stinks and its affecting our property values (Bitcoin and other legit alts)
You are taking food off our tables and we have had enough and you need to take your scam coins and leave. period. get out !

i have a similar take on the situation, however i would like to point out that r3wt has no place involving himself in this type of subject right now. he needs to focus on making things right with his exchange users. i do not know alot about muddafudda but it seems like he may have some type of history with r3wt and "BitcoinXpress" and "igotSpots", who were also posting in the thread. the rest of the posters seem to be sockpuppets of both sides of the argument. having said all of this, i do agree that there is an altcoin problem. many solutions have been proposed, all of them flawed in one way or another, so i say both sides need to take a moment to catch their breath. forking the coins might lead to some negative pr in the media. I see great minds on this forum in the other sections. i say these topics needs to be moved to the bitcoin discussion where we can have some long term members weigh in on the situation. ther'e gotta be a way to solve these problems without cyber terrorism and hacking.

I fail to see the problem with cryptocurrency that it needs a "vigilante group."  For people like me, mining anything will never result in any real money, unless something takes off in some unbelievable way (which still probably won't happen quickly).  For everyone else, lack of due diligence is their own downfall.  If the coin sounds flaky, it may very well be (though Dogecoin proved that you can't go by "flaky").

Like everything else, let people make their own mistakes.  Anyone who BUYS a virtual coin with no knowledge sort of deserves the consequences.

BCX has made several posts about killing coins and SERVICES:

In the liberation thread:

There are a number of extortion posts in that shitcoin thread too, just look at the last page. No idea how serious it is, or who that puppet belongs to. Just the fact that the OP and other key members don't speak out against it, is somewhat odd ... unless they are complicit.


Quote from that shitcoin thread, last page:


Textbook extortion.

fair enough but those other members don't know what we know.. we have been balls deep in this for ages and other member don't come here for a reason.
not exactly the most qualified people to be weighing in on the problem ..if we can at least get people to admit there is a problem (step one)

You sir Need to take a "chillpill". He's misspeaking by including those in support as a whole(maybe he's doing it on purpose, but thats besides the point). He's just saying that in the thread there were some people suggesting extortion/ddos and attacking coins, and how that can be very bad for the community. Next time, take a deep breath before posting. junkcoins are bad, we all know that. but its like the old addage says,

"Two wrongs don't make a right".

We have to eliminate these junkcoins through diplomacy and 100% legal methods, else we are no better than the people who make them.

i never even seen what you are claiming so i can not say anything about it which is why i didn't advocate or speak out against it..
and forking a coin or threatening to fork a coin is not extortion and hacking.
you guys are defending a scam coin that work precisely like a ponzi scheme and your shifting the attention to what random people may or may not have said
then that is a nice diversion tactic nothing more .. stick to the subject at hand please.

There you go. attack the flawed argument without descending into trolling. Refute the points of the enemy, make him your mental bitch, and fully discredit his opinion. You sir are the smartest person posting in either of the threads, but you get carried away and descend into trolling, making it easy for me to side with the other guy.

I never said forking was the same as extortion. Asking for a fee so that a group won't fork you, however, is extortion.

I apologize if I sometimes misspeak and include those who support educating people about scamcoins as being complicit, although I do find it odd that more haven't spoken out against ddosing and extortion tactics ... such as yourself. Then they change the subject and act like everyone is pro scam coin.

I have suggested several times, and if I recall correctly, even to you, in that thread, that education would be a good route to go. Post articles, thread, blog... whatever, about what coins are worth investing in, and which are scams.

As for what people may or may not have said, just go look yourself in the threads. They said it, right there.

don't assume you can see me temperament and emotional level through a forum comment ..you can not and i can assure you i am VERY calm lol
no one posts LOL on the internet more than me because i am smiling and laughing non stop.. i know because i have been made fun of over that 1,000's of times lol
maybe you should quit projecting your own emotional feelings on to others ?
and maybe let that other guy speak for himself or is that you to with another account ? jk ;) lol
I don't think i have ever gotten mad on the internet aside from about 10 years back i had a feud with a fellow cracker that was ripping off my cracks i kept posting
and we were arguing about it for months. We were in a PC game cracking group that was getting games pre'd and we both sort of left the group.
anyway the guy was stealing my work and planting his name on it right after i posted my stuff time after time and then lying about it and yeah that pissed me off LOL
i stopped posting my work.. problem solved.
But aside from that no, kids..
i have been doing this shit for decades so spare me this i'm the famous German World of Warcraft freak-out kid seen on youtube mashing his keyboard routine.
you should know what i am talking about by the way if you have been on the internet long enough ;)

i have spent more time on IRC with professional trolls than half of you posting here have even been alive !
so sorry cupcake if anyone is getting worked up it's you.. i don't get worked up over batting a mouse around. lol
few of you are even close to being in the same league as me and i will dominate most of you in any debate on anything and make you look like fool and cry troll in a heart beat.
So no i don't get upset when a little baby goes goo goo ga ga at me.. i just fucking LOL

That extortion BS  is a setup by nouveau nouveau riche (December/January money), done through their puppets.

 :-*

Ok, at first i was with you. but those last two sentences are unnecessary. you act as if people must confine themselves to one point of view, with no hope or reason to ever change their stance on a topic. Sometimes, your logic defeats you on what was already an intelligent, and well thought out post. this is a perfect example.

I agree with you though. there needs to be some sort of scamcoin education, but how do we accomplish it? noobies will still see the sockpuppet activity in the scamcoins and be fooled into investing. it's been happening here for a long time now. how can we defeat this? i fear the only solution is to ban the release of coins on this forum. let them flood cryptocoin talk and other places with their nonsense. if a truly innovative coin is released, the mods would likely allow it to be posted anyway.

h4xx0r, poornamelessme ...

If you are serious about your concerns, read and understand what Spoetnik is trying to say, instead of picking on parts of his arguments. OTHER people are posting what you claim, not him. There are (or were) many different angles in that thread, before it went downhill.

For example, I joined with the view of bringing some credibility to the scene, and bailed out when the first forking coin threats came. The issue are not shitcoin devs, are people that already bought coins. What those guys are doing is punishing the victim, again.

Now, otoh, SOMETHING must/should be done. What are your suggestions?

Edit: oops, the thread evolved quickly while I was writing. The point still stands though.

darqwolf is that you?

Rule No 1: "know thy enemy"

At the end of that shitcoin thread, there is this one post:


I am not fond of any sort of regulation or committee, but if it's going to be done, I'd much rather see major exchange owners doing it, for free  ... than a group of somewhat suspect people here doing it.

The only other suggestion I had was education. Post threads or articles here about what coins are good ones, which are... well, not so good. As for sockpuppets and such promoting coins, it'll happen ... can't protect everyone, nor should we really try.

Operation Shitcoin cleanout is a joke. The whole point of altcoins is decentralization and self organization. Self organized systems are chaotic at first and small minds are scared by chaotic systems and want regulations and centralization with rules like they are used to. It doesn't matter what they think or do, they are irrelevant and in the way. Altcoins are free and not going to be stopped by a vigilante wannabee police force. They are pissing into the wind and congratulating each other on how good they smell.

Basic economics- the more of something there is, the less it is worth. These shitcoins are not worth the electricity they take to produce them. I doubt Satoshi made Bitcoin open source so everyone that with a semester of community college IT courses can make a rip off of it.  

You guys are unbelievable.

No extortion.  Right.  

It's not a coincidence that the first person to lead the attack here is named "extortion".



As you can see, their plan has NOTHING to do with cleaning up shitcoins.  

If a coin pays, it doesn't matter how bad it is, they won't touch it.

This is simply about scamming people out of money.  Period.

LOL @ petty altcoin drama and all these nobodies who actually think they matter whatsoever. Not even just think they matter, one guy I think was comparing himself to Fidel Castro in one of the threads smh -_-

Nonsense. You pick the garbage of one guy at the end of the thread, and make it look like it represents everyone else.

The thread goes on for 11 more pages, and as far as I've seen, none of the conspirators disagree with what he is saying.  He specifically says that BCX is part of the extortion plan, and this has been pointed out in other threads as well, and BCX has not denied that I've seen.

And it's nonsense that I'm "making it look like it represents everyone else."  It doesn't.  It just represents the gang of thugs running the extortion ring.

My god.

I have to explain this, but Mudda Fudda made Memecoin, guys. I'm so sick of saying this, that I'm not even going to say anything else besides this.

And they're trying to control cryptocurrencies! Isn't this the opposite of cryptocurrencies main goals?

i think your problem is you focus on the people instead of the actual issue at hand, let alone the strength of the idea they are preaching. scared much scammer? god forbid you actually have to get a real job or anything.  :D

Sir, I don't think you understand what a 'scammer' is.

God forbid somebody gives you a dictionary, next you'll say the word 'stygain' means sunshine and pretty rainbows.

Any, since you didn't know this: if he bashed another coin, or threw it off the market, it could have the potential of making his coin go higher. Especially if it's a competitor. This is how the real world work, getting rid of competition to rise higher.  :D

By the way, oh so detailed poster, what the hell are they preaching? To let people control cryptocurrencies?

See, that's what your eyes are for. it's not my fault you can't read. back to the topic, i give not two fucks about any one in that thread. i care about the idea that we can do something to stop shitcoins. since you are an idiot, and unable of basic comprehension i give you this disclaimer:


DISCLAIMER:
I do not favor illegal activity.I favor accomplishing aforementioned tasks through diplomacy. Do you understand yet, ore our you two stew pid

How do you manage to keep track of so many accounts, r3wt/h4xx0r/ghostintheshellprompt/WikiLeaksLover/extortion/Hydroponica?  Didn't I see you talking about yourself earlier? 


Sybil, is that you?

Sir, what accounts are you walking about? Oh, my tree post.. Yeah, that's true.


Oh my god. This is so cute, 'stew pid'.

The person who can't tell somebody what somebody is preaching, but follows the idea.

What a sweet buck' mateo-.

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I was talking to r3wt in that post.  You've been talking to the same person if you have been talking to any of those accounts. 

 r3wt = h4xx0r = extortion?

If so, check out my conversation in the liberation thread. It sort of makes me question his sanity.

You are correct! Just do a quick search for ghostintheshellprompt and you will have all the evidence you need. I've quoted him in the main "operation cleanout" thread. 

*wonders*

I don't get it though -- last page of that liberation thread where the conversation is, it gets bizarre. I mean, he's telling himself he needs to just announce how much his own exchange lost? He was posting as both extortion and h4xx0r there.

A troll is a troll is a troll.  He has already admitted that all of those accounts are his, and he is just trying to give you the run around.  He is trying to clear his name, but he simply makes it worse.  Check my posts to see where I quoted him mentioning his puppet accounts. 

@r3wt/Hydroponica
Keep up the great work!

I feel bad for anyone who had money at openex. His posts make no sense.

And how could he clear his name if he posted his alt names previously? It just makes him look like a bigger liar. It's crazy to me.

ya you right but i think the intention of "the operation" was forking right from the start if i am not mistaken ?

we can't get on with anything if the guys defending scam coins simply jump over responding to any criticism of these coins and their effects
and go straight to singling out one of the commenters and attacking them personally.. that is not the topic at hand.
and i value everyone's input on the idea(s) and its not too late to find a constructive solution on this either..
Topics touching on this issue is going to get messy it should be expected.. so what. at least people are talking.. sort of lol

i keep saying for months non stop that these scam coins are growing to be more and more of a problem and they are damaging the scene and Bitcoin itself.
and i am ignored or denied and almost always attacked personally changing the subject with a diversion and i can't see how anyone can deny that if your selling your house located in a neighborhood of crack heads then YOUR house is going to be worth less ..this is a fact as far as i am concerned and it does not change because these pyramid scheme defenders want to ignore that point.
i don't think many of you out there can say you you don't understand what is happening.. it's obvious so cut the crap already and quit playing dumb.
most of the coins posted 99% of them are essentially a pyramid scheme nothing more and what victim is getting punished ?
the fucktard investing in these scams pushing them and asking for them and waiting to dive on every one of them that comes along
or the new guys that don't know any better that come along and get tricked and hyped and bullshitted into getting involved
only to be left holding the bag as you guys dump on them and are long gone bragging about your Lambo'z..
and you want me to feel sorry for those "investors" ? puuuhleeeeeze spare me
at the bottom of every pyramid scheme is VICTIMS as you call them.. and i don't see you guys giving to shits about any of them
your crying about the thief who has less to steal..

I believe exchanges will eventually quit accepting certain coins or they will fail. They are thinking short term gains at the moment but exchanges that only deal in sustainable currencies will succeed long term. That will be the end of shit coins

Quite correct.

yup ya caught us   ???

Busted !!!  ???

where is my update ?

he didn't have jack shit, that's why he gave up. too busy sucking cocks

Yes, I felt like I was underdone a little.