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Title: Bitcointalk or Cryptotalk? What is the best forum for a beginner?
Post by: Insober on October 06, 2020, 12:04:37 PM
About a year ago, a new cryptocurrency forum appeared on the Internet - Cryptotalk.

This forum in all seriousness will try to become the first in the TOP of forums about cryptocurrencies, to try to oust the Bitcointalk from the first place.
The forum even pays rewards to people for posts, Bitcoins, to keep people active and the forum to flourish.

On the forum, many people are sure that sooner or later the Bitcoinalk forum will leave the first place in popularity, for me this is all nonsense and I want to give a few facts why this forum, BitcoinTalk, will constantly be in the first place if it does not close.

Why?

1. This forum was created by Satoshi Nakamoto himself.
Nobody knows who exactly this is, but we know that this is the creator of Bitcoin. It seems to me that this forum will, constantly, like a memorable history of cryptocurrency, because the whole history and the whole path of development of cryptocurrencies is laid here.

2. People come here for information, to communicate, to learn something new, to help someone.
On the cryptocurrency market, people come to make money, which means that when the forum turns off the fee, users will immediately leave the forum.
Not all, some will remain, but many will leave.

3. This forum has a lot of language branches, which makes it convenient for many people who do not know English.
On the CryptoTalk, there are only 2 languages: Russian and English.


It seems to me that we need to value this forum, the information it gives to the forum.
We should try to promote it into the world of cryptocurrency further, many people are looking at our forum for the purpose of making money, but this should not be so either, we must understand why we came here and for what purpose.

That's all I wanted to say. I have visited both forums and I can say that you will not find more useful information than on Bitcointalk anywhere.

Maybe someone needs a link to the forum:
https://cryptotalk.org/


Title: Re: Bitcointalk or Cryptotalk? What is the best forum for a beginner?
Post by: cryptoaddictchie on October 06, 2020, 12:18:59 PM
On the forum, many people are sure that sooner or later the Bitcoinalk forum will leave the first place in popularity, for me this is all nonsense and I want to give a few facts why this forum, BitcoinTalk, will constantly be in the first place if it does not close.
I dont think so. Bitcointalk has a huge traffic than the one you are comparing. Yes we cant control those who will leave for quite sometime but it doesnt mean this forum is dead or what. Cryptotalk is popular due to the connection with yobit and their signature campaign. Never used it and knowing that it has only two supported language means they arent that great. I know you admire this forum but no need to doubt that belief since it will be a great forum until the end.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk or Cryptotalk? What is the best forum for a beginner?
Post by: Assface16678 on October 06, 2020, 12:29:34 PM
Okay let's talk about the quality

Bitcoin talk consists of a lot of different quality posts because of the merit system to filter out the quality and shit post.

Crypto talk is full of shit posts but still the moderator of that forum doing their best to become a quality forum.

Number of members
AFAIK the bitcoin talk is the winner on this.

Bitcoin talk - Post to learn
Crypto talk - post to earn.

This is just my personal opinion and personal perspective only.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk or Cryptotalk? What is the best forum for a beginner?
Post by: robelneo on October 06, 2020, 01:19:50 PM
About a year ago, a new cryptocurrency forum appeared on the Internet - Cryptotalk.

This forum in all seriousness will try to become the first in the TOP of forums about cryptocurrencies, to try to oust the Bitcointalk from the first place.
The forum even pays rewards to people for posts, Bitcoins, to keep people active and the forum to flourish.

On the forum, many people are sure that sooner or later the Bitcoinalk forum will leave the first place in popularity, for me this is all nonsense and I want to give a few facts why this forum, BitcoinTalk, will constantly be in the first place if it does not close.

We are fully aware of Cryptotalk.org in fact they have done a signature campaign here Cryptotalk.org owed a lot to Bitcointalk when they are starting out, there's no comparison on who is the best forum, just take out the paid to post feature and people will stop posting here and posters there will praise their forum to high heavens because they received a salary here, they will see the payout but not the spam, this forum is very notorious on spam.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk or Cryptotalk? What is the best forum for a beginner?
Post by: bakasabo on October 06, 2020, 01:32:03 PM
Thanks to their recent airdrop rules, cryptotalk forum is drawing in spam and meaningless posts.

I see that you post on Russian language - your chances of learning something from cryptotalk are higher than other language speaking people. I might say, that Cryptotalk forums English local board is filled with lots of newbies. It will be hard to learn something there, as basically there are "no teachers" there. Most of guide or educational topics there are not original, but just a re-written text just not to get banned for plagiarism. While Russian local board is filled with "posts just to earn satoshi".

Bitcointalk will be harder place for a beginner, but your efforts and time spent here will be rewarded.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk or Cryptotalk? What is the best forum for a beginner?
Post by: Insober on October 06, 2020, 01:55:10 PM
On the forum, many people are sure that sooner or later the Bitcoinalk forum will leave the first place in popularity, for me this is all nonsense and I want to give a few facts why this forum, BitcoinTalk, will constantly be in the first place if it does not close.
I dont think so. Bitcointalk has a huge traffic than the one you are comparing. Yes we cant control those who will leave for quite sometime but it doesnt mean this forum is dead or what. Cryptotalk is popular due to the connection with yobit and their signature campaign. Never used it and knowing that it has only two supported language means they arent that great. I know you admire this forum but no need to doubt that belief since it will be a great forum until the end.

I even heard that many people compare these forums because of the design, they say, this forum has an outdated design.

And a cryptocurrency with a newer design, for me it is generally a SHOCK!

I have no doubt that this forum is the best! :D


Title: Re: Bitcointalk or Cryptotalk? What is the best forum for a beginner?
Post by: Kong Hey Pakboy on October 06, 2020, 02:20:37 PM
I think Bitcointalk forum is much better than Crypto talk forum for beginners because most users in crypto talk are spammers or shit poster, so they could earn crypto by posting. Unlike here in bitcointalk, they always make a credible, reliable, and on point discussions, so it would help other users to understand or have more knowledge in the crypto world. It is why I think Bitcointalk forum is better for every beginners and crypto enthusiast.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk or Cryptotalk? What is the best forum for a beginner?
Post by: Trinx01 on October 06, 2020, 02:39:02 PM
I am a member of cryptotalk forum, I created also a topic about my observation about the bitcointalk and cryptotalk, and based on some of the replies that I received on my topic, all of them are into this forum because of the quality information that we can learn and read here unlike to the cryptotalk.

Nice having you here mate, here's the catch, cryptotalk and the only forum you see, are all copycat of the bitcointalk community, none would be as successful as bitcointalk has become. I'm not wishing for their downfall but the way the forum is been run matters alot. At some point they all had to focus their advertisment on this forum to draw members to theirs. Bitcointalk was created with the intention of having a platform were like-minded individuals can communicate and probably pass on wisdom and guide to the new generation.

I joined cryptotalk on June 2020 and knowledge most 4 months but I dont get any quality information there that I can use in the world of cryptocurrency because most of the topics that we can see there is not that too much related about cryptocurrency and blockchain. Even though there are also many members of the cryptotalk, I still dont see any success with that forum unless they will cha ge the rules about creating a topic. They should move all the topics to the "off topic" section to make it more organized.

Even though I am a beginner from this forum, I can say that this is much better than cryptotalk based on some topics that I have read here. There are many useful knowldge that I can acquire here that will help me to become more knowledgeable about the world of crypto.


Title: Re: Bitcointalk or Cryptotalk? What is the best forum for a beginner?
Post by: sujonali1819 on October 06, 2020, 02:43:59 PM
where bitcointalk and where cryptotalk!  ;D when yobit see that they can not do marketing their fishy/Ponzi in this forum they decided to do something so that none can do something against them. And created/contract cryptotalk. Though some newbies here start to use the forum at the begining due their ''paid per post' campaign. But now I think it has very low traffic. So I don't want to compare bitcointalk with cryptotalk.  :)


Title: Re: Bitcointalk or Cryptotalk? What is the best forum for a beginner?
Post by: Mahdirakib on October 06, 2020, 03:22:44 PM
~snip~
Both place are good for beginners/newbie if they have really joined for learning about crypto reletaed things. Spammers are at every online platform. User makes useless post at cryptotalk as they get payment for it. And here you can see a lot of people just posting in bounty section to get something for free. Still you can see a lot of user contributing at both forum by making good qualitative post.

Look like OP is worried about merit and reputation at this forum. Check his post history
Quote
Why does the possibility of getting a negative reputation depend on my account history?
For getting merit in this topic, will I not get a bad reputation?


Title: Re: Bitcointalk or Cryptotalk? What is the best forum for a beginner?
Post by: tranthidung on October 06, 2020, 03:57:14 PM
    Bitcointalk vs Cryptotalk

    Interesting but I am sorry if my words is harsh for Cryptotalk. Let's get started!

    Who is creator/ operator ?
    • Bitcointalk: Satoshi, the creator of bitcoin.
    • Cryptotalk: Yobit controls the site, it seems.

    Target user population
    • Bitcointalk: Global. Everyone can join here. Of course, excludes ban-evansion people.
    • Cryptotalk: Global, initially. But unfortunately over time, it seems to be a local forum. Many nations are restricted. Now, it looks like a Russian forum.

    How Cryptotalk began?
    I don't know how they began outside the forum, but at least on the forum, they began as a company that tried to use spammers to promote their forums. They acted like a parasite on the forum, abuse the forum with spam posts. No manager, no selection process, invitation to join campaign was sent to Yobit users through emails, all people were accepted, no max participants, etc.

    Learn and Earn ?
    • Bitcointalk.org: You can have both: knowledge and earnings if you are a good members with good contributions. Good campaigns are waiting for you. Managers of good campaigns will happy to accept you.
    • Cryptotalk: it is a spam place. I knew last year, people can earn well (in bitcoin) on that forum but later they changed strategy and pay for posters with their Talk token. Is it worth? You can not learn knowledge on that spam forum.

    Abuse on bitcointalk.org forum
    Yobit did it first and was globally banned for 60 days by theymos, then in the next wave, they run Cryptotalk signature campaign that is another spam before it was took over by yahoo62278.

    Conclusion

    Are those points enough to help you know which forum is better? It is bitcointalk.org, the unique forum for bitcoin and crypto.


    Sources:
    • Yobit spam on the forum (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5133809.0)
    • List of banned participants in the Cryptotalk Campaign (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5188200.0)

    129 users who were wearing a yobit signature and had at least 1 good report against them in the last 14 days are banned for 14 days. All yobit signatures are wiped. Signatures containing "yobit.net" are banned for 60 days.

    Some people were talking about neg-trusting spammers for spamming. This is not appropriate; report the posts, and if that doesn't seem to be working well, come to Meta with specific examples and suggestions.
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    Title: Re: Bitcointalk or Cryptotalk? What is the best forum for a beginner?
    Post by: Charles-Tim on October 06, 2020, 04:17:59 PM
    1. Cryptotalk banned 7 countries, these countries can not access the site, it will display error 1020.
    2. Cryptotalk do ban even legit accounts, not like this forum that you will have rest of mind that you will not be banned.
    3. Information on cryptotalk is not quality like the ones on this forum
    4. Cryptotalk members do spam, why won't they, they are posting 30 posts daily and now 20 post daily. It is not even spam at times because daily post requirement is too many.
    5. You can not access cryptotalk with phone broswer version unless you convert it to desktop
    6. There are more Russian members than the members in the rest of the world, that is why russian sections are more active. Are they implying Russians knows better than the rest of the world.
    7. They are not paying in bitcoin again, there payment is complex. They pay in talk token while talking token is not yet tradable. There bitcoin payment is now one of the hardest.
    8. Payment is not according to ranking, how would that work. Ranking in accordance to payments makes forum to have quality
    9. In term of payment, I prefer hear. But you have to work hard.

    Who is in cryptotalk should be afraid, and have alternatives means because they do ban people after they have used the person (evidence is the russian section that is more active with more members which was not like that before), if the person contributes not like before, and not russian, he will be banned with only just simple mistakes that is not spam, plagiarism nor having multiple accounts.


    Title: Re: Bitcointalk or Cryptotalk? What is the best forum for a beginner?
    Post by: TopTort777 on October 06, 2020, 04:26:20 PM
    The idea of bitcointalk forum - teach, study blockchain, cryotocurrency and other aspects of anonymous payments world.
    The goal of cryptotalk - attrack more users to yobit exchange to earn of commisions. 



    Title: Re: Bitcointalk or Cryptotalk? What is the best forum for a beginner?
    Post by: longlivecapitalism on October 06, 2020, 05:19:59 PM
    Here's an idea, why not both? I'm not a beginner in crypto anymore but when I was, I used to check all sorts of forums and websites to better educate myself and to see if there were chances to earn some crypto (and yes, I'm not ashamed to admit that part). I'm not a member on Cryptotalk but I'm a member on bitcointalk and I wouldn't advise any beginner to just stick to one forum. See what's out there, get info, and most of all, figure out what works for you and what doesn't because we're not all the same and we don't have the same ideas or the same goals in life.


    Title: Re: Bitcointalk or Cryptotalk? What is the best forum for a beginner?
    Post by: CryptopreneurBrainboss on October 06, 2020, 05:23:12 PM
    About a year ago, a new cryptocurrency forum appeared on the Internet - Cryptotalk.

    Ok now this recent created topics with relation to shilling cryptotalk on the forum is begining to look like a strategic attempt of promoting their site on the forum once again because that's all they do here. Cryptotalk shouldn't be put in the same sentence as bitcointalk. We should be comparing the forum to that of altcointalk and their likes as it's not yet upto the standard to be competing with bitcointalk.

    Like I said in my previous reply relating to this same topic, both forum operates differently therefore should never be compared as bitcointalk would always dominate. Bitcointalk needs no promotion, it's members does that for free. But the other platforms need the promotion and attractive marketing to stay relevant.

    Consider cryptotalk to be like DeFi/ICo tokens that won't last long in the market and would always get replace with other wanna be but bitcointalk is bitcoin which irrespective of the market condition would still remain relevant.



    Title: Re: Bitcointalk or Cryptotalk? What is the best forum for a beginner?
    Post by: Insober on October 06, 2020, 07:09:10 PM
    About a year ago, a new cryptocurrency forum appeared on the Internet - Cryptotalk.

    Ok now this recent created topics with relation to shilling cryptotalk on the forum is begining to look like a strategic attempt of promoting their site on the forum once again because that's all they do here. Cryptotalk shouldn't be put in the same sentence as bitcointalk. We should be comparing the forum to that of altcointalk and their likes as it's not yet upto the standard to be competing with bitcointalk.

    Like I said in my previous reply relating to this same topic, both forum operates differently therefore should never be compared as bitcointalk would always dominate. Bitcointalk needs no promotion, it's members does that for free. But the other platforms need the promotion and attractive marketing to stay relevant.

    Consider cryptotalk to be like DeFi/ICo tokens that won't last long in the market and would always get replace with other wanna be but bitcointalk is bitcoin which irrespective of the market condition would still remain relevant.


    Here I completely agree with you.
    But I'm just comparing them because they are both cryptocurrency forums, why not compare them?

    And the fact that after the payment is disabled on the cryptocurrency there will no longer be users there - I completely agree.


    Title: Re: Bitcointalk or Cryptotalk? What is the best forum for a beginner?
    Post by: TalkStar on October 06, 2020, 07:31:12 PM
    I don't think it will be a wise thing to compare worlds largest crypto community "Bitcointalk" with a forum like "Cryptotalk". Don't forget about two rare creations of Satoshi Nakamoto which are "Bitcoin" & "Bitcointalk". You can only count the value of both forum by one thing and that is  "Acceptability". Acceptability of bitcointalk is always higher among worldwide crypto users and it will remain same with community users contribution from which people are enriching their knowledge vault about bitcoin and other crypto currencies.        

    I believe bitcointalk bear much value than any other newly created forum which are running for a specific reason by a specific group of people but bitcointalk is completely different in this field. Yeah people can decrease their activity for their personal reason but that doesn’t mean they are losing their interest or forum is dying. Everyday new peoples are getting registered here and starting their journey by sharing and learning knowledges from here. Its a continuous process which will never end IMO.      

    Consider cryptotalk to be like DeFi/ICo tokens that won't last long in the market and would always get replace with other wanna be but bitcointalk is bitcoin which irrespective of the market condition would still remain relevant.
    Agree with you and there is no doubt that people will not take too much time to change their mind. Its just like hyip which exists for a limited amount of time and get disappear by giving some bad and unforgettable experiences.          


    Title: Re: Bitcointalk or Cryptotalk? What is the best forum for a beginner?
    Post by: LTU_btc on October 06, 2020, 07:43:48 PM
    OP, how dare you to compare these two forums. It's simply incomparable. It's like to compare Samsung or Apple smartphones with no name smartphone from Aliexpress for $20. Sorry that I didn't made better comparison, nothing better didn't came to my head.
    As you said, Bitcointalk is made by Satoshi, while Cryptotalk is made by Yobit to shill their shady website. It's enough what we need to know about them. And content on both forums can't be compared. On Cryptotalk basically there is no discussions, just pure spam.
    I didn't knew that they restricted access to forum for several countries. Well, it makes them even more pathetic.
    We need another comparison - which forum is worse: Cryptotalk or Forum.Bitcoin.co :D?


    Title: Re: Bitcointalk or Cryptotalk? What is the best forum for a beginner?
    Post by: Insober on October 06, 2020, 09:20:41 PM
    OP, how dare you to compare these two forums. It's simply incomparable. It's like to compare Samsung or Apple smartphones with no name smartphone from Aliexpress for $20. Sorry that I didn't made better comparison, nothing better didn't came to my head.
    As you said, Bitcointalk is made by Satoshi, while Cryptotalk is made by Yobit to shill their shady website. It's enough what we need to know about them. And content on both forums can't be compared. On Cryptotalk basically there is no discussions, just pure spam.
    I didn't knew that they restricted access to forum for several countries. Well, it makes them even more pathetic.
    We need another comparison - which forum is worse: Cryptotalk or Forum.Bitcoin.co :D?
    I have not heard of such a forum, which was described at the end.
    I can read it later and write another comparison topic "Which forum is worse: Cryptotalk or Forum.Bitcoin.co?"
    To do? ;D ;D ;D


    Title: Re: Bitcointalk or Cryptotalk? What is the best forum for a beginner?
    Post by: TalkStar on October 06, 2020, 10:54:10 PM
    OP, how dare you to compare these two forums. It's simply incomparable. It's like to compare Samsung or Apple smartphones with no name smartphone from Aliexpress for $20. Sorry that I didn't made better comparison, nothing better didn't came to my head.
    Not a bad example i think.:) Market is full with lots of unknown brands who are offering much features than Iphone but we know how helpful these features are. I wanna add another little example from my end.

    Recently i have purchased fossil smartwatch but intereresting thing is that there is so many smart watches available in the market under the price of 100$ which got much features and battery lifetime than mine. So you can tell that creating forum like bitcointalk isn’t a big thing where important is the quality of its users and forum necessity itself.  

    As you said, Bitcointalk is made by Satoshi, while Cryptotalk is made by Yobit to shill their shady website. It's enough what we need to know about them. And content on both forums can't be compared.
    On Cryptotalk basically there is no discussions, just pure spam.
    Thats why i mentioned the sentence on my previous reply that forums like cryptotalk made by specific group of people for specific reason and anyone can easily detect the reason what it is.
     


    Title: Re: Bitcointalk or Cryptotalk? What is the best forum for a beginner?
    Post by: 1miau on October 07, 2020, 01:16:10 AM
    I've read a few times in Cryptotalk but never made an account and for really educated discussion, Cryptotalk is relatively, let's say limited.

    The only thing which was fun, was reading shitposts from butthurt shitposters who complained about Bitcointalk Merit system / Trust system being so unfair.  :D :D

    This visit was in late last year, so I can't say if it's improved right now but I guess not. When I read there, posts were still massively paid and most likely quite a few posters will leave long term. However, I wish Cryptotalk good luck to have at least some educated discussions about altcoins.  :)



    We need another comparison - which forum is worse: Cryptotalk or Forum.Bitcoin.co :D?
    There are so many dead forums, I can't even count:

    Bitcoinforum.com: https://www.bitcoinforum.com/
    Bitco.in Forum: https://bitco.in/forum/
    Cryptocurrencytalk: https://cryptocurrencytalk.com/
    Cryptoforum.com: http://www.cryptoforum.com/
    Cryptointalk: https://cryptointalk.com/
    ...



    Title: Re: Bitcointalk or Cryptotalk? What is the best forum for a beginner?
    Post by: tranthidung on October 07, 2020, 01:49:30 AM
    I've read a few times in Cryptotalk but never made an account and for really educated discussion, Cryptotalk is relatively, let's say limited.

    The only thing which was fun, was reading shitposts from butthurt shitposters who complained about Bitcointalk Merit system / Trust system being so unfair.  :D :D

    This visit was in late last year, so I can't say if it's improved right now but I guess not. When I read there, posts were still massively paid and most likely quite a few posters will leave long term. However, I wish Cryptotalk good luck to have at least some educated discussions about altcoins.  :)
    It is a big joke to see they forced people to spam in order to get traffics, then changed and paid their spammers with Talk tokens (if I recalled correctly) with one of reasons is to prevent spam and abuse. Restrictions on some nations because of cheaters. I can understand how cheaters try to abuse and cheat such spam forum but if they don't have strict rules, and good tools to manage their community (like merit system and trust/ feedback system) their forum should not operate fine, with or without spammers / cheaters.

    A forum is not a commercial entity so such restrictions are weird but I can understand they need to aim at their target population (it seems to be Russian).

    Additionally, maybe it is just me but I visit some other forums with BBcode signature and I can say in my own feeling, bitcointalk.org forum is the best, visually.
    You can take a quick look at Cryptotalk or https://bitcoingarden.org. Signatures are displayed too badly.

    When I asked for systems, algorithms to force people make high quality posts and to differentiate between good and bad posters, they said there is unavailable for now. I don't use such forums.  :D


    Edit (after I see that one). You can click on link to see more but it is an awful comparison. The point #4 seems to confirm Cryptotalk now has 2 main languages: English and Russian.

    https://cryptotalk.org/topic/109555-things-you-need-to-know-about-cryptotalk-and-bitcointalk/
    Quote
    Cryptotalk

    1. Crypto talk gives us profit whenever we reach the 100 posts.

    2. We are not allowed to create multiple accounts here.

    3. We don't need to apply in the campaign to get paid here.

    4. We have only 2 languages here.

    5. You can delete your own topic here.


    Title: Re: Bitcointalk or Cryptotalk? What is the best forum for a beginner?
    Post by: MickLichz on October 07, 2020, 03:11:06 AM
    Honestly, I also used to post in cryptotalk as they have the campaign paid per post but as time goes by I noticed that forum is not organized well and there are many spammers and repeated topics to the point that the campaign force to banned some country servers but it is normal because it is a newly form forum and not established well. In terms of quality and organized forum bitcoin still, the number 1, and as I can see it will still remain as number 1.

    It's better that beginners will start here in bitcointalk why? Even the forum is difficult they will gain legit knowledge from the experts and will also gain experience.


    Title: Re: Bitcointalk or Cryptotalk? What is the best forum for a beginner?
    Post by: lovesmayfamilis on October 07, 2020, 06:48:37 AM
    On the Cryptotalk forum, if you look closely, there is no new information. All topics are completely paraphrased from the bitcointalk forum. Any registered account that appears there is a person interested in making money. I will not even talk about cases of direct plagiarism. Although the local administration is very active in combating such violations, you will not find unique content there.
    What can I advise to those who are faced with a choice of where to get knowledge. If people prefer the Cryptotalk forum, then instead of logical answers to their questions, they will receive answers from bots, not from people.
    Here on the forum, there is a real opportunity to communicate with those who have extensive experience in many areas related to cryptocurrency.
    In general, don't waste time on little things.


    Title: Re: Bitcointalk or Cryptotalk? What is the best forum for a beginner?
    Post by: Insober on October 07, 2020, 07:34:17 AM
    On the Cryptotalk forum, if you look closely, there is no new information. All topics are completely paraphrased from the bitcointalk forum. Any registered account that appears there is a person interested in making money. I will not even talk about cases of direct plagiarism. Although the local administration is very active in combating such violations, you will not find unique content there.
    What can I advise to those who are faced with a choice of where to get knowledge. If people prefer the Cryptotalk forum, then instead of logical answers to their questions, they will receive answers from bots, not from people.
    Here on the forum, there is a real opportunity to communicate with those who have extensive experience in many areas related to cryptocurrency.
    In general, don't waste time on little things.

    Unfortunately, many people do not understand this.
    More precisely, those who want to get real knowledge will choose the right forum - Bitcointalk.

    But the cryptocurrency also has, sometimes, useful topics, he personally found various distributions there that were fasting on that forum.

    And at the expense of the usefulness of the content of the forum, I know that there are not people there, but solid bots that came for profit. ;D

    Honestly, I also used to post in cryptotalk as they have the campaign paid per post but as time goes by I noticed that forum is not organized well and there are many spammers and repeated topics to the point that the campaign force to banned some country servers but it is normal because it is a newly form forum and not established well. In terms of quality and organized forum bitcoin still, the number 1, and as I can see it will still remain as number 1.

    It's better that beginners will start here in bitcointalk why? Even the forum is difficult they will gain legit knowledge from the experts and will also gain experience.
    Well, there are people on this forum who came for knowledge, who want to learn something.

    On the same forum, people came to receive payment for posts. ;D :)


    Title: Re: Bitcointalk or Cryptotalk? What is the best forum for a beginner?
    Post by: Sparrow96 on October 07, 2020, 08:13:04 AM
    Obviously, you can go for BitcoinTalk. It's has been up since the birth of Bitcoin. You can feel the presence of Satoshi. All Bitcoin Legends are here to help you.


    Title: Re: Bitcointalk or Cryptotalk? What is the best forum for a beginner?
    Post by: Lucius on October 07, 2020, 08:56:29 AM
    2 Newbies on the same topic in less than 24 hours, and while this thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5280256.0) can somehow be considered a fairly logical observation, when I look at the OP it really seems to me as if it was written as a promotion for that other forum, especially considering that a direct link has been posted.

    Whatever the intention, I would not agree that it is necessary to promote such forums in any way, because we are trying to get rid of spam and scam, and not encourage people to get used to some low standards which the forum in question promotes. Comparing this forum with other cypto forums doesn't make much sense, just as it doesn't make sense to compare Bitcoin with all the forks trying to copy it.


    Title: Re: Bitcointalk or Cryptotalk? What is the best forum for a beginner?
    Post by: Insober on October 07, 2020, 09:42:18 AM
    2 Newbies on the same topic in less than 24 hours, and while this thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5280256.0) can somehow be considered a fairly logical observation, when I look at the OP it really seems to me as if it was written as a promotion for that other forum, especially considering that a direct link has been posted.

    Whatever the intention, I would not agree that it is necessary to promote such forums in any way, because we are trying to get rid of spam and scam, and not encourage people to get used to some low standards which the forum in question promotes. Comparing this forum with other cypto forums doesn't make much sense, just as it doesn't make sense to compare Bitcoin with all the forks trying to copy it.
    No, in this topic, on the contrary, I am making fun of the crypto forum.
    I do not consider it as a worthy resource where you can get a lot of useful information.

    And I left the link to the resource, maybe someone might find it useful.


    Title: Re: Bitcointalk or Cryptotalk? What is the best forum for a beginner?
    Post by: Johnson knight on October 07, 2020, 12:23:33 PM
    I prefer Bitcointalk in my opinion because Cryptotalk forum is severly disorganized with several unimportant junks or spams. Also, Bitcointalk comes with alot of active members who are ready to help any beginner in need of assistance.


    Title: Re: Bitcointalk or Cryptotalk? What is the best forum for a beginner?
    Post by: Erumo on October 07, 2020, 12:32:47 PM
    What a strange topic.

    Of course, people on bitcointalk will write that this forum is best for beginner. And there is almost identical topic on Cryptotalk ("will cryptotalk outrace bitcointalk by popularity") and all I see there are posts praising Cryptotalk.

    It is like war between Samsung and Apple fans.

    P.S. no one speaks about altcointalks? huh ?


    Title: Re: Bitcointalk or Cryptotalk? What is the best forum for a beginner?
    Post by: aioc on October 07, 2020, 02:02:55 PM
    It's not worth joining and being active in Cryptotalk the management are racist they ban people because of their nationalities not on individual s who broke the rules, Cryptotalk cannot compete with Bitcointalk, people there just used this forum to make money, just look on the discussions most of them are redundant they are just repeating what others are saying, no originality at all.




    Title: Re: Bitcointalk or Cryptotalk? What is the best forum for a beginner?
    Post by: Lucius on October 07, 2020, 02:19:48 PM
    It is like war between Samsung and Apple fans.

    Your comparison is completely wrong, because Samsung and Apple are two large global companies that have great products and have been present on the market for many years. Bitcointalk is the first crypto forum as far as I know, and it is certainly the most famous. On the other hand, cryptotalk has gained all its popularity by advertising on this forum and has no theoretical chance of becoming anything serious except that it will serve to promote various scams such as current that gives the award of even 10 BTC via one more great offer from YoShit exchange.


    Title: Re: Bitcointalk or Cryptotalk? What is the best forum for a beginner?
    Post by: Insober on October 07, 2020, 02:27:06 PM
    It's not worth joining and being active in Cryptotalk the management are racist they ban people because of their nationalities not on individual s who broke the rules, Cryptotalk cannot compete with Bitcointalk, people there just used this forum to make money, just look on the discussions most of them are redundant they are just repeating what others are saying, no originality at all.



    At the expense of the banned countries:
    Among the people who used multi-accounts and spam were people from these countries, so these countries were simply banned from that forum.

    The fact that there is 0 useful information I already know, there is simply no sense in that forum, but online, now, there is mad! ;D ;D


    Title: Re: Bitcointalk or Cryptotalk? What is the best forum for a beginner?
    Post by: Rikafip on October 07, 2020, 02:30:09 PM
    2 Newbies on the same topic in less than 24 hours, and while this thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5280256.0) can somehow be considered a fairly logical observation, when I look at the OP it really seems to me as if it was written as a promotion for that other forum, especially considering that a direct link has been posted.
    This thing with Cryptotalk It is not their only connections, and suspicious thing going on:

    Both of them applied  for [Merit] Hey Newbies! Can You Sign A Message?  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5275043.0) thread, and coincidentally, they did it one after another. Not to mention that Insober conveniently woke up after 7 years break (account created in 2013) and joined that giveaway, while Trinx01 did that onlt 2 hours after creating an account. I've seen enough here not to believe in coincidences. Maybe they are  buddies  ::)


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    Title: Re: Bitcointalk or Cryptotalk? What is the best forum for a beginner?
    Post by: madnessteat on October 07, 2020, 03:12:17 PM
    For several days already on cryptotalk forum there is a drop of DLRS tokens to get which you need to write 100 posts per week. Nobody knows what a token is, but activity on the forum is just huge and the posts are written by people who do not even understand what the cryptocurrencies are.


    Title: Re: Bitcointalk or Cryptotalk? What is the best forum for a beginner?
    Post by: Insober on October 07, 2020, 03:12:53 PM
    2 Newbies on the same topic in less than 24 hours, and while this thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5280256.0) can somehow be considered a fairly logical observation, when I look at the OP it really seems to me as if it was written as a promotion for that other forum, especially considering that a direct link has been posted.
    This thing with Cryptotalk It is not their only connections, and suspicious thing going on:

    Both of them applied  for [Merit] Hey Newbies! Can You Sign A Message?  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5275043.0) thread, and coincidentally, they did it one after another. Not to mention that Insober conveniently woke up after 7 years break (account created in 2013) and joined that giveaway, while Trinx01 did that onlt 2 hours after creating an account. I've seen enough here not to believe in coincidences. Maybe they are  buddies  ::)


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    I saw this person in that topic and saw his created topic and what he received for it.
    I decided to also create a topic to get merit, at least try it.
    What is the problem, you are all evil ?!


    Title: Re: Bitcointalk or Cryptotalk? What is the best forum for a beginner?
    Post by: UserU on October 07, 2020, 03:16:06 PM
    For several days already on cryptotalk forum there is a drop of DLRS tokens to get which you need to write 100 posts per week. Nobody knows what a token is, but activity on the forum is just huge and the posts are written by people who do not even understand what the cryptocurrencies are.

    So they're paying in DLRS token instead of Bitcoin now?


    Title: Re: Bitcointalk or Cryptotalk? What is the best forum for a beginner?
    Post by: Nellayar on October 07, 2020, 03:57:54 PM
    I was a former member of cryptotalk.org specially when it launched before. It was really hyped by campaigners in this forum wherein we only see the signature materials about cryptotalk.org and ran by yobit team. At first, I don`t why they are eager to have a lot of posts in their forum. I thought it was for popularity and advertisement. It is good because they ran contest which I get some of bitcoin. However, it became more exhausted in that forum because spammers had moved around and shitposting the forum.

    The best forum as a beginner is bitcointalk.org, this has a lot of users who had real knowledge about crypto stuff. And because of the current merit system, you can read a lot of quality post made by several users who want to have an excellence in the forum.


    Title: Re: Bitcointalk or Cryptotalk? What is the best forum for a beginner?
    Post by: tranthidung on October 07, 2020, 04:02:04 PM
    For several days already on cryptotalk forum there is a drop of DLRS tokens to get which you need to write 100 posts per week. Nobody knows what a token is, but activity on the forum is just huge and the posts are written by people who do not even understand what the cryptocurrencies are.
    Are there rule for plagiarism and ban on rule-breaker (plagiarism, ie.)? Zero or low value posts probably come from plagiarism. I guess no rule, no ban.


    Title: Re: Bitcointalk or Cryptotalk? What is the best forum for a beginner?
    Post by: Findingnemo on October 07, 2020, 04:26:53 PM
    For several days already on cryptotalk forum there is a drop of DLRS tokens to get which you need to write 100 posts per week. Nobody knows what a token is, but activity on the forum is just huge and the posts are written by people who do not even understand what the cryptocurrencies are.
    Are there rule for plagiarism and ban on rule-breaker (plagiarism, ie.)? Zero or low value posts probably come from plagiarism. I guess no rule, no ban.
    Plagiarism is also against the cryptotalk forum https://cryptotalk.org/topic/4748-report-plagiarism-copypaste/

    But they are not against zero value posts because all they want is quantity over quality and it is a known fact since when they introduced their campaign on bitcointalk. :)


    Title: Re: Bitcointalk or Cryptotalk? What is the best forum for a beginner?
    Post by: UserU on October 07, 2020, 04:48:38 PM

    But they are not against zero value posts because all they want is quantity over quality and it is a known fact since when they introduced their campaign on bitcointalk. :)

    They've been way more stringent compared to last time, from the 100 posts minimum to the banning of several countries.

    Still, the shitposts are inevitable there.


    Title: Re: Bitcointalk or Cryptotalk? What is the best forum for a beginner?
    Post by: masulum on October 07, 2020, 04:57:44 PM
    But they are not against zero value posts because all they want is quantity over quality and it is a known fact since when they introduced their campaign on bitcointalk. :)

    That true, I have used Cryptotalk in the past, but what I see there is mostly already on Bitcointalk first. Its mean, the thread that is created are similar with what is on Bitcointalk, even though it is not 100% the same. Like this Crypotalk post (https://cryptotalk.org/topic/93948-how-to-avoid-scammers-on-telegram-channel/) you can find it on Bitcointalk (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5195626.msg52863080#msg52863080) just different type of posts (with and without image):D

    From there I thought why would I be active in Cryptotalk if in the end what I read was the same with topic here. And yes lot of Zero value posts there, i don't know, is there any active reporter or not, but that the fact.


    Title: Re: Bitcointalk or Cryptotalk? What is the best forum for a beginner?
    Post by: Insober on October 07, 2020, 05:01:30 PM
    That true, I have used Cryptotalk in the past, but what I see there is mostly already on Bitcointalk first. Its mean, the thread that is created are similar with what is on Bitcointalk, even though it is not 100% the same. Like this Crypotalk post (https://cryptotalk.org/topic/93948-how-to-avoid-scammers-on-telegram-channel/) you can find it on Bitcointalk (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5195626.msg52863080#msg52863080) just different type of posts (with and without image):D

    From there I thought why would I be active in Cryptotalk if in the end what I read was the same with topic here. And yes lot of Zero value posts there, i don't know, is there any active reporter or not, but that the fact.

    Active reporters and people with great reputation are there.
    I know some of them.
    Also, moderators work fine there.

    But, at the expense of the content - it is really completely copied there from this forum, people just want to make money from it, they don't think about how to create a normal, worthwhile post that will help newbies.
    In one word - horror. ;D ;D


    Title: Re: Bitcointalk or Cryptotalk? What is the best forum for a beginner?
    Post by: virasog on October 07, 2020, 05:02:33 PM
    About a year ago, a new cryptocurrency forum appeared on the Internet - Cryptotalk.

    This forum in all seriousness will try to become the first in the TOP of forums about cryptocurrencies, to try to oust the Bitcointalk from the first place.
    The forum even pays rewards to people for posts, Bitcoins, to keep people active and the forum to flourish.

    On the forum, many people are sure that sooner or later the Bitcoinalk forum will leave the first place in popularity, for me this is all nonsense and I want to give a few facts why this forum, BitcoinTalk, will constantly be in the first place if it does not close.

    Why?



    Why are you comparing the both forum ? Cryptotalk forum has a very small scope and you will most find ICO/IEO related bounties which are limited to yobit exchange only as that is their forum. Bitcointalk is not linked with any exchange , coin etc and you will find a lot more information and bounties (if interested), on this forum.


    Title: Re: Bitcointalk or Cryptotalk? What is the best forum for a beginner?
    Post by: Insober on October 07, 2020, 06:04:26 PM
    About a year ago, a new cryptocurrency forum appeared on the Internet - Cryptotalk.

    This forum in all seriousness will try to become the first in the TOP of forums about cryptocurrencies, to try to oust the Bitcointalk from the first place.
    The forum even pays rewards to people for posts, Bitcoins, to keep people active and the forum to flourish.

    On the forum, many people are sure that sooner or later the Bitcoinalk forum will leave the first place in popularity, for me this is all nonsense and I want to give a few facts why this forum, BitcoinTalk, will constantly be in the first place if it does not close.

    Why?



    Why are you comparing the both forum ? Cryptotalk forum has a very small scope and you will most find ICO/IEO related bounties which are limited to yobit exchange only as that is their forum. Bitcointalk is not linked with any exchange , coin etc and you will find a lot more information and bounties (if interested), on this forum.
    I compare, because on that forum our forum is compared with a pitiful likeness - CryptoTalk.

    I just want to say that some spam and full of bots forum wants to take first place in Bitcoin, I don't know if it will work out or not, I'm sure not, but they really have such a goal, it's funny ;D ;D


    Title: Re: Bitcointalk or Cryptotalk? What is the best forum for a beginner?
    Post by: Findingnemo on October 07, 2020, 07:14:15 PM

    But they are not against zero value posts because all they want is quantity over quality and it is a known fact since when they introduced their campaign on bitcointalk. :)

    They've been way more stringent compared to last time, from the 100 posts minimum to the banning of several countries.

    Still, the shitposts are inevitable there.
    Banning people based on the region doesn't look convenincing because there is no border to knowledge even someone from third world countries can have better knowledge compared to the guy from well developed countries and literally thry banned countries because they don't want to pay the people for that pay per post campaign on cryptotalk.


    Title: Re: Bitcointalk or Cryptotalk? What is the best forum for a beginner?
    Post by: virasog on October 08, 2020, 03:34:34 AM
    About a year ago, a new cryptocurrency forum appeared on the Internet - Cryptotalk.

    This forum in all seriousness will try to become the first in the TOP of forums about cryptocurrencies, to try to oust the Bitcointalk from the first place.
    The forum even pays rewards to people for posts, Bitcoins, to keep people active and the forum to flourish.

    On the forum, many people are sure that sooner or later the Bitcoinalk forum will leave the first place in popularity, for me this is all nonsense and I want to give a few facts why this forum, BitcoinTalk, will constantly be in the first place if it does not close.

    Why?



    Why are you comparing the both forum ? Cryptotalk forum has a very small scope and you will most find ICO/IEO related bounties which are limited to yobit exchange only as that is their forum. Bitcointalk is not linked with any exchange , coin etc and you will find a lot more information and bounties (if interested), on this forum.
    I compare, because on that forum our forum is compared with a pitiful likeness - CryptoTalk.

    I just want to say that some spam and full of bots forum wants to take first place in Bitcoin, I don't know if it will work out or not, I'm sure not, but they really have such a goal, it's funny ;D ;D

    So what if other forum compare bitcointalk.org ? Surely every forum wants to gain popularity like bitcointalk but obviously they cant reach at this level.
    I understand that cryptotalk is a useless forum but if any other good forum tries to improve to become popular, there is no harm in it.  :)


    Title: Re: Bitcointalk or Cryptotalk? What is the best forum for a beginner?
    Post by: UserU on October 08, 2020, 03:53:10 AM

    Banning people based on the region doesn't look convenincing because there is no border to knowledge even someone from third world countries can have better knowledge compared to the guy from well developed countries and literally thry banned countries because they don't want to pay the people for that pay per post campaign on cryptotalk.

    The last time I checked, it was due to the low quality submissions from those countries.

    Legit or not, it's hard to determine because there are other services that also implemented similar strategies. For instance, visitors from US/ CA are paid way better than those from third-world.


    Title: Re: Bitcointalk or Cryptotalk? Whatbestideabideabifb forum for a beginner?
    Post by: Akiko on October 08, 2020, 04:26:30 AM


    So what if other forum compare bitcointalk.org ? Surely every forum wants to gain popularity like bitcointalk but obviously they cant reach at this level.
    I understand that cryptotalk is a useless forum but if any other good forum tries to improve to become popular, there is no harm in it.  :)
    If crypto talk continues paying bitcoin to all thier  member then they will have many spam post from users by having that paid per post forum. not a good idea if you want a honest discussion forum maybe they can find other alternative way to help users to earn but not that paid to post.

    There are many forum tried that before andthat's not worth it for the money use by the owner  and in long run they will just move to other forum if they think its not beneficial for them to be there anymore.


    Title: Re: Bitcointalk or Cryptotalk? What is the best forum for a beginner?
    Post by: Insober on October 08, 2020, 06:11:21 AM
    About a year ago, a new cryptocurrency forum appeared on the Internet - Cryptotalk.

    This forum in all seriousness will try to become the first in the TOP of forums about cryptocurrencies, to try to oust the Bitcointalk from the first place.
    The forum even pays rewards to people for posts, Bitcoins, to keep people active and the forum to flourish.

    On the forum, many people are sure that sooner or later the Bitcoinalk forum will leave the first place in popularity, for me this is all nonsense and I want to give a few facts why this forum, BitcoinTalk, will constantly be in the first place if it does not close.

    Why?



    Why are you comparing the both forum ? Cryptotalk forum has a very small scope and you will most find ICO/IEO related bounties which are limited to yobit exchange only as that is their forum. Bitcointalk is not linked with any exchange , coin etc and you will find a lot more information and bounties (if interested), on this forum.
    I compare, because on that forum our forum is compared with a pitiful likeness - CryptoTalk.

    I just want to say that some spam and full of bots forum wants to take first place in Bitcoin, I don't know if it will work out or not, I'm sure not, but they really have such a goal, it's funny ;D ;D

    So what if other forum compare bitcointalk.org ? Surely every forum wants to gain popularity like bitcointalk but obviously they cant reach at this level.
    I understand that cryptotalk is a useless forum but if any other good forum tries to improve to become popular, there is no harm in it.  :)
    Well I do not know.
    It seems to me that the Bitcoin forum should always be the best. ::)

    I think that he will always remain the best and the first only because the whole history of Bitcoin and the cryptocurrency world is laid there. ;D ;D


    Title: Re: Bitcointalk or Cryptotalk? What is the best forum for a beginner?
    Post by: DdmrDdmr on October 08, 2020, 07:23:57 AM
    I have no doubt in my mind which is best for a beginner, due both to the legacy, and the capability of many of the forum members to answer your questions.

    Out of curiosity, I took a look at Criptotalk on the WayBackMachine (https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://cryptotalk.org/), only to find some curios facts.

    - Cryptotalk, as a domain name, seems to have been around since at least 2013 (first saved image: https://web.archive.org/web/20130514035208/https://cryptotalk.org/).

    - If you look at the first Recent post in the link above, it verses: “I am pleased to announce that Silverwolf's WDC Pool has launched and we are” … “Wednesday, 29. May. 2013 by: the1silverwolf”.

    That is the same content and author as this Bitcointalk post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=219329.msg2308524#msg2308524

    - Some Member names coincide on both forums.
     
    - Here we see an initial proper website layout: https://web.archive.org/web/20130913002404/http://www.cryptotalk.org/
    No Bitcoin logo, and the index is basically altcoin.

    Not sure, but perhaps that site, probably later sold to Yobit (and perhaps others in between), may have been created originally with the idea of talking about crypto in general, and may have received content from some Bitcointalk forum members in the early days (it does not seem to be a clone attempt per se of all the content, but some posts may coincide like the one I pointed to above by @the1silverwolf).
     


    Title: Re: Bitcointalk or Cryptotalk? What is the best forum for a beginner?
    Post by: Insober on October 08, 2020, 06:08:29 PM
    I have no doubt in my mind which is best for a beginner, due both to the legacy, and the capability of many of the forum members to answer your questions.

    Out of curiosity, I took a look at Criptotalk on the WayBackMachine (https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://cryptotalk.org/), only to find some curios facts.

    - Cryptotalk, as a domain name, seems to have been around since at least 2013 (first saved image: https://web.archive.org/web/20130514035208/https://cryptotalk.org/).

    - If you look at the first Recent post in the link above, it verses: “I am pleased to announce that Silverwolf's WDC Pool has launched and we are” … “Wednesday, 29. May. 2013 by: the1silverwolf”.

    That is the same content and author as this Bitcointalk post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=219329.msg2308524#msg2308524

    - Some Member names coincide on both forums.
     
    - Here we see an initial proper website layout: https://web.archive.org/web/20130913002404/http://www.cryptotalk.org/
    No Bitcoin logo, and the index is basically altcoin.

    Not sure, but perhaps that site, probably later sold to Yobit (and perhaps others in between), may have been created originally with the idea of talking about crypto in general, and may have received content from some Bitcointalk forum members in the early days (it does not seem to be a clone attempt per se of all the content, but some posts may coincide like the one I pointed to above by @the1silverwolf).
     
    I didn’t even know that cryptotalk had been trying to create for so long, already since 2013.

    And it started normally only in 2019, what did they think for 6 years? ;D ;D


    Title: Re: Bitcointalk or Cryptotalk? What is the best forum for a beginner?
    Post by: coupable on October 08, 2020, 08:27:33 PM
    snip
    I didn’t even know that cryptotalk had been trying to create for so long, already since 2013.

    And it started normally only in 2019, what did they think for 6 years? ;D ;D
    Ddmr explained that the domain has been registrated since 2013 while the forum as we know it today just started lat year by the moderation of Yobit exchange. Great possibility that it has been sold to Yobit if the original domain owner isn't from the Yobit team .


    Title: Re: Bitcointalk or Cryptotalk? What is the best forum for a beginner?
    Post by: libert19 on October 09, 2020, 04:47:47 AM

    Bitcoin talk - Post to learn
    Crypto talk - post to earn.


    There are some exceptions but same applies to both tbh


    Title: Re: Bitcointalk or Cryptotalk? What is the best forum for a beginner?
    Post by: Vicky agarwal on October 09, 2020, 10:48:55 AM
    obviously you posted here that means its a best forum

    as far i know ,no one can beat bitcointalk


    Title: Re: Bitcointalk or Cryptotalk? What is the best forum for a beginner?
    Post by: Insober on October 10, 2020, 06:55:22 AM
    snip
    I didn’t even know that cryptotalk had been trying to create for so long, already since 2013.

    And it started normally only in 2019, what did they think for 6 years? ;D ;D
    Ddmr explained that the domain has been registrated since 2013 while the forum as we know it today just started lat year by the moderation of Yobit exchange. Great possibility that it has been sold to Yobit if the original domain owner isn't from the Yobit team .
    What future do you think this forum will have?
    It seems to me that without monetary support from the YoBit exchange, this forum simply cannot exist.


    Title: Re: Bitcointalk or Cryptotalk? What is the best forum for a beginner?
    Post by: 20kevin20 on October 10, 2020, 11:25:37 AM
    What future do you think this forum will have?
    It seems to me that without monetary support from the YoBit exchange, this forum simply cannot exist.
    Which one, CryptoTalk? If they removed the pay-per-post from their forum, it'd die quickly and painfully. Last time I checked it out, it was just exaggeratedly filled up with shitposts and plagiarization. It has no future, the same way YoBit wouldn't but they just come up with new scammy schemes every few days to attract and fool more newbies.


    Title: Re: Bitcointalk or Cryptotalk? What is the best forum for a beginner?
    Post by: UserU on October 10, 2020, 01:37:17 PM
    What future do you think this forum will have?
    It seems to me that without monetary support from the YoBit exchange, this forum simply cannot exist.

    Might not last as long as Bitcointalk IMHO.

    They still have support since YoBit is an exchange so there's a stream of funds from their members or sheeps but as long as CT manage to sustain on its ad-revenue, there's no point for them to pull the plug.


    Title: Re: Bitcointalk or Cryptotalk? What is the best forum for a beginner?
    Post by: Asuspawer09 on October 10, 2020, 02:09:10 PM
    What future do you think this forum will have?
    It seems to me that without monetary support from the YoBit exchange, this forum simply cannot exist.
    Which one, CryptoTalk? If they removed the pay-per-post from their forum, it'd die quickly and painfully. Last time I checked it out, it was just exaggeratedly filled up with shitposts and plagiarization. It has no future, the same way YoBit wouldn't but they just come up with new scammy schemes every few days to attract and fool more newbies.

    I agree with you, when I'm going to compare the quality of the post here in the forum and the Cryptotalk forum, Cryptotalk really has a low-quality post, most of it is just a small sentence that doesn't really make any sense.

    For sure there are still spammers and low-quality posters here but Pay per post in the Cryptotalk really makes it worst as people are just posting for the payment that results in spamming and people that don't have any experience in cryptocurrency is just trying to make something up.

    A forum is a place where you could share your ideas and learn information from the different experience of the other members, I think paying for a post is not really bad for some experience poster sometimes that might motivate them to create a good post because of the bonus payment but the payment in Cryptotalk could be abused by a lot of newbies leading to big spam.


    Title: Re: Bitcointalk or Cryptotalk? What is the best forum for a beginner?
    Post by: Insober on October 10, 2020, 07:00:58 PM
    What future do you think this forum will have?
    It seems to me that without monetary support from the YoBit exchange, this forum simply cannot exist.
    Which one, CryptoTalk? If they removed the pay-per-post from their forum, it'd die quickly and painfully. Last time I checked it out, it was just exaggeratedly filled up with shitposts and plagiarization. It has no future, the same way YoBit wouldn't but they just come up with new scammy schemes every few days to attract and fool more newbies.
    Fraud?

    These projects didn’t deceive anyone, but they don’t do anything useful for the cryptocurrency world, but I did not notice any fraud on their part :o


    Title: Re: Bitcointalk or Cryptotalk? What is the best forum for a beginner?
    Post by: Shimmiry on October 11, 2020, 02:15:20 AM
    ~

    Cryptotalk is a rip-off community of this forum not really made to be a crypto-world community but to make yobit's (ew) trading platform popular. Have you ever known that yobit had a huge issue here in the forum as its platform stole so many money from bitcointalk users? (See Yobit's profile trust score here (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=406594)) Hence, they've only bought the cryptotalk domain for their trading platform's traffic and market. Imagine that they've been paying if and only if you use their paltform. Also, I've tried to join it back then when it started yet it was so shitty forum that even a single-word replies would be counted to the payment LOL.


    Bitcoin talk - Post to learn
    Crypto talk - post to earn.


    There are some exceptions but same applies to both tbh

    Nope, cryptotalk is pure earning forum, no merits nor quality whatsoever. Users in there can plagiarize without being seen and would still be paid. Bitcointalk community and campaigns requires high standards. Basically, BTCTalk users are campaign promoters, Cryptotalk users doesn't promote anything at all. Imagine them not being paid, they wouldn't be running in a month lol.


    Title: Re: Bitcointalk or Cryptotalk? What is the best forum for a beginner?
    Post by: smyslov on October 11, 2020, 02:36:42 AM


    Legit or not, it's hard to determine because there are other services that also implemented similar strategies. For instance, visitors from US/ CA are paid way better than those from third-world.

    They are like that favoring one country over the other and they are not judging based on the merit of the poster but based on his location, I can conclude that they are racist, they are in no way in competition with Bitcointalk or even in other Cryptocurrency forum, once they stopped paying posters will start posting here and will just join another forum because they lack categories and sections


    Title: Re: Bitcointalk or Cryptotalk? What is the best forum for a beginner?
    Post by: Twinkledoe on October 11, 2020, 02:44:02 AM

    Legit or not, it's hard to determine because there are other services that also implemented similar strategies. For instance, visitors from US/ CA are paid way better than those from third-world.

    They are like that favoring one country over the other and they are not judging based on the merit of the poster but based on his location, I can conclude that they are racist, they are in no way in competition with Bitcointalk or even in other Cryptocurrency forum, once they stopped paying posters will start posting here and will just join another forum because they lack categories and sections

    I think that kind of approach to their users are really not fair. There are also users from third world that can provide good quality posts. Anyway, I don't think cryptotalk is nowhere near with bitcointalk. That's my opinion though. Really wonder what will be their future if they stop paying their users to post?


    Title: Re: Bitcointalk or Cryptotalk? What is the best forum for a beginner?
    Post by: UserU on October 11, 2020, 07:31:24 AM

    I think that kind of approach to their users are really not fair. There are also users from third world that can provide good quality posts. Anyway, I don't think cryptotalk is nowhere near with bitcointalk. That's my opinion though. Really wonder what will be their future if they stop paying their users to post?

    It's really subjective. From a website owner's perspective, sometimes they have to implement such measures because they prefer quality over quantity. Sure, there are good posters from there but they are the minority.

    Just like some services blocking certain countries because the majority of DDoS attacks are originating from there.

    Before you judge me, I'm also from a third-world country so yeah.


    Title: Re: Bitcointalk or Cryptotalk? What is the best forum for a beginner?
    Post by: TGD on October 11, 2020, 07:38:47 AM

    Legit or not, it's hard to determine because there are other services that also implemented similar strategies. For instance, visitors from US/ CA are paid way better than those from third-world.

    They are like that favoring one country over the other and they are not judging based on the merit of the poster but based on his location, I can conclude that they are racist, they are in no way in competition with Bitcointalk or even in other Cryptocurrency forum, once they stopped paying posters will start posting here and will just join another forum because they lack categories and sections

    I think that kind of approach to their users are really not fair. There are also users from third world that can provide good quality posts. Anyway, I don't think cryptotalk is nowhere near with bitcointalk. That's my opinion though. Really wonder what will be their future if they stop paying their users to post?

    I'm from third world country but I understand there point. There website was abused by those people that from the banned country. I remember when I'm first time using it, I saw user that continuously posting on different thread with a short time span. I believe he is using a script to auto post and most of his post is low quality and off topic.

    If I'm with the situation of the owner. I will definitely exclude the country that provides a shit tons of garbage in my forum especially if I'm paying them per post and that is not a racist unless the owner exclude a country for no reason.


    Title: Re: Bitcointalk or Cryptotalk? What is the best forum for a beginner?
    Post by: Smartvirus on October 11, 2020, 09:45:51 AM
    To accurately debate this Bitcointalk Vs Cryptotalk as to which is better and an upgrade, it's always best done through an experienced member of both forums. I recently encountered a post on the biginners board that made mention of Cryptotalk and that's the first I heard of it. The user actually debated it on his/her own in this topic:
    I want to become a good member of this forum (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5280466.0)
    It was obvious he knew and understood to have stepped on a gold mine by transcending from Cryptotalk to Bitcointalk. That's to tell you, how suffisticated the Bitcointalkforum is. It's an upgrade of all forums.
    So, I did a few research on Cryptotalk and I was disappointed as to why we should even debate it!!!

    In terms of Organization
    Bitcointalk: It's main page is properly organized, divided into boards and sub-boards, each board carries a unique set of information, rules in agreement with the overall rule and is guided by a moderator.
    Cryptotalk: it's page is poorly organized and the boards lack a sub-boards, discussion are arranged in an unorderly manner.

    Content quality
    Bitcointalk: it presents facts in as it is and in an orderly manner, discussions are duely moderated, a strick rules on plagiarism and spamming, low quality content are deleted and off-topic contents are sent to appropriate boards, contents on the board are mainly high quality researched works.
    Cryptotalk: it present facts like suggestions, some level of plagiarism are allowed with spamming as the bases for promoting campaigns, most of it's contents are virtually low quality researched works.

    Suffistication
    Naturally, new models of any technological advancement is supposed to be an upgrade of the formal which should be bigger and better. In the case of Bitcointalk and Cryptotalk, the case is different and in reverse.
    Bitcointalk which was created in 2009 by Satoshi Nakamoto remains high and more suffisticated than Cryptotalk which was created in September 2019 by Yobit and Cryptotalk admins in a bid to earnBTC or Alts and its suffistication is just too low in comparison to Bitcointalk. This is as a result of how carelessly and earning centered it was formed.

    Purpose
    Bitcointalk: centers it's purpose on learning as it's core. Here you learn a lot about Bitcoin and Alts as well, your also met with opportunities to earn and practice certain techniques in various field s of the cryptosphere and how to properly secure what you've acquired.
    Cryptotalk: Is based or centered on earnings through which ever means as that is it's core. No doubt, you can easily get scammed in your bid to multiple as that's the mindset of it's users. You virtually encounter little information on how to upgrade based on the series of spam post on the forum, users waste no time in researching for new and beneficial topics to aid other users in security aspects. Hence, it's all about the post counts.

    There are a lot to say but then I'll stop here and say this as well, Cryptotalk is not a worthy comparison for Bitcointalk at all with emphasis on 'not a worthy comparison'. No!


    Title: Re: Bitcointalk or Cryptotalk? What is the best forum for a beginner?
    Post by: nakamura12 on October 11, 2020, 10:39:12 AM
    The forum you mentioned is not the same as the bitcointalk forum. Yes you can learn there too but this forum have more lots of traffic which means you can create a thread here and many will see it if your thread has not been discussed before. So, this forum can be your learning space.


    Title: Re: Bitcointalk or Cryptotalk? What is the best forum for a beginner?
    Post by: JohnBitCo on October 11, 2020, 11:07:43 AM
    Okay let's talk about the quality

    Bitcoin talk consists of a lot of different quality posts because of the merit system to filter out the quality and shit post.

    Crypto talk is full of shit posts but still the moderator of that forum doing their best to become a quality forum.

    Number of members
    AFAIK the bitcoin talk is the winner on this.

    Bitcoin talk - Post to learn
    Crypto talk - post to earn.

    This is just my personal opinion and personal perspective only.

    I don't agree to this because you cannot earn much from crypto talk. At the beginning they were paying satoshi for pay per post but later they discontinue this and give only some token from the yobit exchange. I don't know what are they paying now because i have not visited that forum for the last few months.

    For me, that forum is full of spam post and you can learn nothing from there. Those who are free and have lot of spare time can earn few cents from there but for me its waste of time.


    Title: Re: Bitcointalk or Cryptotalk? What is the best forum for a beginner?
    Post by: pakhitheboss on October 13, 2020, 10:25:48 AM
    I remember seeing a signature campaign for Crypto talk on Bitcointalk at that time I never knew it was a forum where people are earning BTC by posting topics.

    The concept of earning by posting will invite a lot of spam post and shit posts as the primary goal of any user there will be to earn Bitcoin. I am sure moderators there are pretty busy everyday.

    Bitcointalk was created to learn and understand bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies earning cryptocurrency is optional here.
    People are here to discuss about new projects and gain information about them. Those who are new to cryptocurrency are here to learn about it.

    I still have not seen any other forum in this niche providing information like Bitcointalk.