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Title: Trezor saved my after robbery
Post by: dhru9 on October 24, 2020, 07:04:48 PM
I am a tourist in other country and living in the nature
Someone rob the house and rob everything laptop, money credit cards, phone
But Only the trezor under the bed he not rob.
he probably thought is some gadget for kids.

Is saved me because i use loclbitcoins and sold my btc later and still have money with no worries
bitcoin = freedom


Title: Re: Trezor saved my after robbery
Post by: starseeker on October 24, 2020, 07:14:48 PM
Sorry to hear about your loss.

But I'm happy to see how bitcoin saved your day. Cards can be blocked but cash in hand can be robbed. BTC on the blockchain cannot be touched unless we are stupid. lol


Title: Re: Trezor saved my after robbery
Post by: DrG on October 24, 2020, 07:24:22 PM
Trezor under the bed? That's one of the first place criminals look when flipping through a house - they're looking for money, drugs or guns. Guess the criminals didn't know what the hardware wallet was. You got lucky. You could have printed your public and private keys in 20 point font on paper and plastered your walls with it and still been safe :P

I have a Nano Blue but took all the funds off of it. It was too cumbersome to interface with. Paper wallets divided around the neighborhood/world works better for me, but it's good to hear the wallet did its job.


Title: Re: Trezor saved my after robbery
Post by: hatshepsut93 on October 24, 2020, 08:14:59 PM
Trezor didn't save you, the criminal's lack of knowledge about Bitcoin did. And some robbers could have just taken a hardware wallet without knowing what it is, to figure out later, or maybe they would have though that it's some sort of USB drive with valuable data? You need to store your hardware wallet in secure place, relying on criminals not knowing what to do with it is just security by obscurity, and this security is extremely unreliable.


Title: Re: Trezor saved my after robbery
Post by: Charles-Tim on October 24, 2020, 08:42:42 PM
Some people do not know what hardware wallet is, but you need to be careful, because some thieves can know about it and force you to provide all necessary information needed to access it. But, you are lucky the thieves do not know what hardware wallet is. Next time, it will be good to save it in a place not accessible by thieves and other attackers. I created an article recently about how physical money are vulnerable to theft while fiats vulnerable to governmental manipulations, while bitcoin helps to solve the both problems.

Money vulnerable to theft and depreciation until the onset of bitcoin
Before the onset of bitcoin, all types of money were either vulnerable to theft or depreciation, there was a time in the past when there was money but no bank, people will still think of a way to protect their money, but at the time, money were vulnerable to theft. So, later comes bank, to help individual to keep their money, fiats was adopted and was accepted by all countries of the world, and money centralized regulation evolved. Now, fiats are manipulated, the manipulations are from governments because fiats are centrally regulated and due to this, money owned by individuals are manipulated and making fiats to be a depreciative asset. 
Money like gold that are physical are more vulnerable to theft while fiats kept in banks are more vulnerable to governmental manipulations. All these do not make money characteristics to be completely fulfilled until the onset of bitcoin that created indirect bridge known as blockchain between fiats and cryptocurrencies. Now, people can hold bitcoin in a way to do away with theft and central (governmental) manipulations.


Title: Re: Trezor saved my after robbery
Post by: Twinkledoe on October 24, 2020, 09:01:34 PM
Sorry to hear about your loss.

But I'm happy to see how bitcoin saved your day. Cards can be blocked but cash in hand can be robbed. BTC on the blockchain cannot be touched unless we are stupid. lol

He is lucky as the robbers didn't get it and had no idea what it is for but robbers are getting sophisticated these days. Remember, they can hack top exchanges and get away with millions of dollars. Now, it will be a lesson for the OP. Don't trust that robbers will not be interested with your gadgets next time. As others said, you just got lucky! But congrats for getting back on track owed to your crypto.


Title: Re: Trezor saved my after robbery
Post by: Yaunfitda on October 24, 2020, 09:28:46 PM
I am a tourist in other country and living in the nature
Someone rob the house and rob everything laptop, money credit cards, phone
But Only the trezor under the bed he not rob.
he probably thought is some gadget for kids.

Is saved me because i use loclbitcoins and sold my btc later and still have money with no worries
bitcoin = freedom
Just be careful though, the criminals might got back if they see that you have a Trezor under your bed, and maybe that's one reason why they didn't took it in the first place. So if I'm in your shoes, better check out and move to another place and take care of that Trezor of yours.


Title: Re: Trezor saved my after robbery
Post by: pixie85 on October 24, 2020, 09:35:29 PM
That robber still did you good if he got away with all your stuff and you had to sell bitcoins to compensate.

Now that bitcoin is going up in valye you have less to profit from.

Still great that he left your trezor because it's so small that he could just take it thinking it's a fancy usb drive or some kind of car fob that could be worth something at a pawn shop.
It looks more like a gate or garage remote than a toy :D


Title: Re: Trezor saved my after robbery
Post by: jossiel on October 24, 2020, 10:15:02 PM
Good thing that nothing bad happened to you and you're not there when he entered. No harm has been done physical and you have your bitcoins with your Trezor.

Now, the next thing that you have to do is to review CCTV's near to your house to identify the culprit. How did the robber entered your apartment?


Title: Re: Trezor saved my after robbery
Post by: OgNasty on October 24, 2020, 10:18:40 PM
But Only the trezor under the bed he not rob.

Geez...  Way to sell out my hiding spot.  Now I'm going to have to find a new place to stash my satoshis.


Title: Re: Trezor saved my after robbery
Post by: o_e_l_e_o on October 24, 2020, 10:36:49 PM
OP was fortunate in this case that the attacker did not know what he was looking at. There exists a vulnerability with Trezor devices in which a knowledgeable attacker, given physical access to the device, can extract the seed phrase within 15 minutes. The attacker could have extracted the seed phrase and left the device behind to make OP think he is safe, and then moved all the coins a little later.

There is also the possibility that an attacker sees a hardware device, knows what it is, and so comes back at a later time when OP is around in an attempt to coerce him to give up his coins. If you aren't already using passphrases to give yourself plausible deniability for such a scenario, then you should consider doing so. Links below.

https://wiki.trezor.io/Passphrase
https://support.ledger.com/hc/en-us/articles/115005214529-Advanced-passphrase-security


Title: Re: Trezor saved my after robbery
Post by: erikoy on October 24, 2020, 11:12:13 PM
Do not get too much confidence in it because some people now are knowledgeable about bitcoin and by next time if you are still not careful of those kind of people and might get back next time then high chances that they will going to take your trezor device as well. So, a good advise is for you to keep it also safe away from those expensive belongings to which the robbers always after so that they could not get a chance to get your bitcoins. We know that they could have knowledge about it.


Title: Re: Trezor saved my after robbery
Post by: dimonstration on October 24, 2020, 11:19:11 PM
He might not really know what it is, some of my friends think of it as a key chain one of may friend before says if it's a tamagotchi lol. But some robbers can be too smart and may know what it is, if he was able to get your laptop and phones that might not have any strict security it may result for them to easily get your funds better be careful now in securing your Trezor as well your room or home.


Title: Re: Trezor saved my after robbery
Post by: stompix on October 24, 2020, 11:30:19 PM
Someone rob the house and rob everything laptop, money credit cards, phone
~
Is saved me because i use loclbitcoins and sold my btc later and still have money with no worries

How did you sell your coins on LocalBitcoins with no laptop and no smartphone?  ;D

But Only the trezor under the bed he not rob.

Next time put your credit cards under the rug under your bed, seems like it's a good hiding spot.

And some robbers could have just taken a hardware wallet without knowing what it is, to figure out later, or maybe they would have though that it's some sort of USB drive with valuable data?

Pretty stupid robbers, that's if we believe the story, a trezor is easy to carry, and even if they did mistake it for something else it was still an easy to carry gadget that could have got them a few $ once sold, easy to carry and easy to dispose of if found to be useless.  Actually, now that I think of, my emergency laptop I take on vacation just to read some stuff and maybe send some mail and I couldn't care less if it gets stolen or I drop it in a pool is barely twice the price of my 256 memory stick. ;D


Title: Re: Trezor saved my after robbery
Post by: KingsGambet19 on October 24, 2020, 11:52:08 PM
Lol, good one OP..Nice.saving your funds. I think this is one of the great advantage of storing your money in cryptocurrency. Robbers don't have idea about it and even if they sees it knowing that it is just like a usb then they could have just leave it. So, I suggest to make the devices of storing crypto online to make a design that is not catchy to the looks of the robbers so that they will only get lesser attention in taking it as well.


Title: Re: Trezor saved my after robbery
Post by: o_e_l_e_o on October 25, 2020, 07:44:12 AM
Borrowing laptop from others involves the risk of seed compromising.
No it doesn't. The whole point of hardware wallets is that you can connect them to any computer or device, even one filled with malware, and your seed phrase/private keys/coins remain completely safe. It is entirely possible to use a trusted friend's or family member's computer to use an exchange account and deposit coins to it from your hardware wallet. The main risk is with there being malware which could steal your exchange account login details, not which could access your seed phrase.

a trezor is easy to carry, and even if they did mistake it for something else it was still an easy to carry gadget that could have got them a few $ once sold
Even if you have no idea what it is, every Trezor device has the word Trezor embossed on it. Type Trezor in to Google and the first result will tell you what it is.


Title: Re: Trezor saved my after robbery
Post by: Peanutswar on October 25, 2020, 11:02:14 AM
This scenario is unexpected. The best you are still safe life > bitcoin man.

Still, it feels bad because most of your things got by the robber, I think you need to make all of the backups on your files and especially coins. Is there any secret pocket under your bed so the robber ignores the trezor, mostly if we talk about robbers they will get everything that benefits them.

You are lucky he didn't notice your trezor looks like a flash drive else you are gone with your coins.

But if you have full access like your seed on your wallet you do not need to worry.


Title: Re: Trezor saved my after robbery
Post by: TGD on October 25, 2020, 11:11:32 AM
Trezor didn't save you, the criminal's lack of knowledge about Bitcoin did. And some robbers could have just taken a hardware wallet without knowing what it is, to figure out later, or maybe they would have though that it's some sort of USB drive with valuable data? You need to store your hardware wallet in secure place, relying on criminals not knowing what to do with it is just security by obscurity, and this security is extremely unreliable.

Still trezor saves him because its appearance is not really attractive to robber tho. It just mean that the aesthetics design of trezor really sucks that robber don't have any interest on it. A blessings in disguise. Actually it's appearance is not really good and it looks a very cheap item. Robbers is on rush so they don't have time to get an item that they are not familiar. They already planned what items they will only get to save time for escape.


Title: Re: Trezor saved my after robbery
Post by: coolcoinz on October 25, 2020, 11:13:01 AM
You're lucky the theft have no knowledge about Bitcoin/Bitcoin hardware and think it's cheap electronic device, some theft would steal anything they could steal or think all electronic device (even though it's small) has to be valuable.

But even if he did steal it, most likely the theft cannot steal your Bitcoin and you still have access to your Bitcoin (assuming you have backup).

If he kept his walet under the bed there's a pretty big chance he had no backups at all.
Unfortunately we can't protect ourselves from every possible scenario. If the theieves know you're abroad they'll take their time in your house and look for hidden money and valuables.
I know a case in my area where the owner lived alone and died and the thieves knew nobody was going to come to check the house right away, so they stole everything including faucets, built in electric devices like heaters, chandeliere, everything that could be unscrewed and had some value.


Title: Re: Trezor saved my after robbery
Post by: dansus021 on October 25, 2020, 11:19:11 AM
Trezor under the bed? That's one of the first place criminals look when flipping through a house - they're looking for money, drugs or guns. Guess the criminals didn't know what the hardware wallet was. You got lucky. You could have printed your public and private keys in 20 point font on paper and plastered your walls with it and still been safe :P

I have a Nano Blue but took all the funds off of it. It was too cumbersome to interface with. Paper wallets divided around the neighborhood/world works better for me, but it's good to hear the wallet did its job.

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D printed your public and private keys in 20 point font on paper and plastered your walls with it and still been safe  kinda true  ;D i mean i doit for myself i write on used paper and just put right on my desk and no one know that was moeny on paper


Title: Re: Trezor saved my after robbery
Post by: joniboini on October 25, 2020, 11:43:22 AM
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D printed your public and private keys in 20 point font on paper and plastered your walls with it and still been safe  kinda true  ;D i mean i doit for myself i write on used paper and just put right on my desk and no one know that was moeny on paper
I think telling us would defeat the purpose of this then. While the chance is low I think you should keep it to yourself and to those close to you (wife, husband etc) about where your seed is stored.


Title: Re: Trezor saved my after robbery
Post by: cheezcarls on October 25, 2020, 12:01:12 PM
I remember one time that when I attended the Binance Meetup in Cebu City, Philippines, I wore my Ledger Nano S as a necklace, and one of the attendees spotted it. He approached me in a nice and professional way that I shouldn’t do that because I might get targeted for theft later on, and I acknowledged it. He was a HEX supporter and bullish on that until now. If the Ledger Nano S is popular in the country later on, thieves may steal it but cannot access my assets because they don’t have the seed phrases (unless if they are not after my assets but only the hardware wallet).

Sorry about your Trezor getting stolen by a thief, but next time you have to keep it in a “very safe” place that thieves would find it hard to sneak around and find it. 


Title: Re: Trezor saved my after robbery
Post by: Quidat on October 25, 2020, 05:37:12 PM
I am a tourist in other country and living in the nature
Someone rob the house and rob everything laptop, money credit cards, phone
But Only the trezor under the bed he not rob.
he probably thought is some gadget for kids.

Is saved me because i use loclbitcoins and sold my btc later and still have money with no worries
bitcoin = freedom

Good thing that the robber doesnt know about crypto and how to identify a hardware wallet but still you have lots valuable things inside your house which is really sad
to hear but at least you do still have some coins left and that was still a good call for them to miss it out.This is one of the advantages on where someone
cant really stole it from you unless if those thieves are knowledgeable and they do recognized that was a hardware wallet.
Just wondering on why it was hidden under the bed which is really a common place to be seek on in case like these.


Title: Re: Trezor saved my after robbery
Post by: fiulpro on October 25, 2020, 06:57:51 PM
I am a tourist in other country and living in the nature
Someone rob the house and rob everything laptop, money credit cards, phone
But Only the trezor under the bed he not rob.
he probably thought is some gadget for kids.

Is saved me because i use loclbitcoins and sold my btc later and still have money with no worries
bitcoin = freedom

It was actually a really lucky thing that the person who was in the house had no idea about Bitcoins or about the wallets that can be used. Then again cash does not provide any us with the security that bitcoin does. After a limit amount of attempts even  your wallet locks up. It is really good if the person using the cryptocurrencies is taking care of all the internet security since the only way one can find a loop hole is using wrong wallets and most of the time it's personal problem.
-Even security with respect to the governmental problems, pandemic, crisis.

But that aside please accept my condolences for the problems that you faced.

But I do believe that wearing it as a necklace as one of you did is not the safest deal since people have been stealing good chains and stuff in the middle of the day so if someone did think it was important and had bad intentions it would be troublesome.


Title: Re: Trezor saved my after robbery
Post by: Traderbtcc on October 25, 2020, 07:03:48 PM
Really sad you got robbed, sorry man, I hope your recover everything that was taken from you anytime soon, but I don't think the trezor wallet saved you, I believe the criminal had no idea what it was or what it's been used for, if not he would have collected it during the robbery process, the trezor didn't look shiny like a gold watch  :D that's why he left it, but i'm glad you are left with something you can start off with, stay safe out there man.


Title: Re: Trezor saved my after robbery
Post by: 3meek on October 25, 2020, 07:14:00 PM
It would be very epic if the criminals knew what Trezor... Probably they would have gladly introduced you to the blowtorch lamp! ;D And then because of the bitcoin your life would never be the same! :D


Title: Re: Trezor saved my after robbery
Post by: TIDOVEE on October 25, 2020, 07:19:23 PM
Thank God you had the trezor wallet which saved you from total loss which could have been more painful, It is advice able that everyone should get a safe wallet like that incase of the unknown and unprepared for. Once you have a safe wallet any of your account will be retrievable. The only thing I think about is when an account is too confidential if the person dies no one to take over the saved coin.


Title: Re: Trezor saved my after robbery
Post by: ChrisPop on October 25, 2020, 07:26:26 PM
Good for you, man. Hopefully they get the thieves. It's rough when you go travelling and this happens. Don't let an unpleasant event ruin your taste for seeing the world. It could happen to anyone.

I'm also glad to hear that hardware wallets do their jobs. :) Even if they would have stolen the trezor, you still have the paper wallets somewhere safe, right? It is never a bad thing to be cautious.


Title: Re: Trezor saved my after robbery
Post by: Oceat on October 25, 2020, 07:32:51 PM
It would be very epic if the criminals knew what Trezor... Probably they would have gladly introduced you to the blowtorch lamp! ;D And then because of the bitcoin your life would never be the same! :D
Luckily, the robbers don't have a single clue but I also think that those robbers are only after for an easy to sell things they may get, such a typical local robbers. Although I'm not satisfied with OP's explanation that he got rob but didn't seem to bother that he had lost something. It should be a lesson for OP in the future to take care what's more important because we don't know when these circumstances might have happen to us in the future. It should be an early warning sign to keep the most important thing safe in the hands of thieves.


Title: Re: Trezor saved my after robbery
Post by: aesma on October 25, 2020, 07:55:11 PM
OP, you need to have a backup of your seed in a safe place no robber will touch, you could write it across some pages of a bible for example. A Trezor under the mattress isn't a safe spot at all. Either keep it on you (but hidden) or hide it better. Also keep a backup of the backup seed elsewhere, in case your house burns down, you don't want to lose both the Trezor and the backup.

I remember one time that when I attended the Binance Meetup in Cebu City, Philippines, I wore my Ledger Nano S as a necklace, and one of the attendees spotted it. He approached me in a nice and professional way that I shouldn’t do that because I might get targeted for theft later on, and I acknowledged it. He was a HEX supporter and bullish on that until now. If the Ledger Nano S is popular in the country later on, thieves may steal it but cannot access my assets because they don’t have the seed phrases (unless if they are not after my assets but only the hardware wallet).

Sorry about your Trezor getting stolen by a thief, but next time you have to keep it in a “very safe” place that thieves would find it hard to sneak around and find it. 

What you did is a bit like having a giant golden necklace covered in diamonds, not really smart. And the problem with a ledger is that if someone knows what it is, they know they need the PIN, so now they won't just rob you, they will kidnap and torture you to get to your crypto !


Title: Re: Trezor saved my after robbery
Post by: btcwish1 on October 25, 2020, 08:22:38 PM
I don't understand why every one is saying the OP is lucky BECAUSE THE ROBBER DIDN'T TAKE THE HARDWARE WALLET?

Is it not the main benefit of a hardware wallet that even if it is stolen no one can actually do anything with it without the seed or private key?? 

what can the robber do with his Trezor without the key or seed?  ??? ???


Title: Re: Trezor saved my after robbery
Post by: DrG on October 25, 2020, 08:48:57 PM
I don't understand why every one is saying the OP is lucky BECAUSE THE ROBBER DIDN'T TAKE THE HARDWARE WALLET?

Is it not the main benefit of a hardware wallet that even if it is stolen no one can actually do anything with it without the seed or private key?? 

what can the robber do with his Trezor without the key or seed?  ??? ???

He's lucky because he's implying that his only copy of his keys was store on the hardware wallet. The wallet would be secure for perpetuity, but the coins would still be lost to him. To prevent loss, the keys should be either written down on paper or digital sources - obviously it would make sense to obfuscate the key. Perhaps putting 1/2 of the key in one room in one book and the other half in another room in another book.

Thieves steal pretty much any small electronic device because those are easy to resell and have value. The hardware wallet allows easy access with easy security, but it doesn't prevent the keys from being lost.


Title: Re: Trezor saved my after robbery
Post by: BlackHatCoiner on October 25, 2020, 08:52:23 PM
Sorry for your loss. It sucks, especially if you had hard cash in your place.

Bitcoin saved you, because the robber was ignorant of that tiny device. If he knew, he would take it with pleasure. That's why I'm against hardware wallets. Bitcoin gives us the chance to save our money on a piece(s) of paper, which doesn't draw attention and/or memorizing the seed. It's not hard, you just have to find the perfect seed.

Keep calm and carry on  ;)

what can the robber do with his Trezor without the key or seed?  ??? ???
Isn't the seed inside the hardware?


Title: Re: Trezor saved my after robbery
Post by: Yatsan on October 25, 2020, 08:58:03 PM
That was really an awful experience for you and that surely a traumatic one losing your things inside your house because of robbery. Good thing that the robbers have not taken away your Trezor hardware wallet so that you have some stored assets with you and have been able to use such to regain money from loss. Trezor have saved you from being financially unstable after the robbery because of your stored Bitcoin but Trezor does not significantly saved you from robbery for the reason that maybe they doesn't know what is the essence of the object they have found knowing it was easy to find under the bed. You were somehow just lucky they are not aware of that because if they do, then you maybe have nothing right now. Better be safe the next time so you won't experience the same kind of experience the next time around.


Title: Re: Trezor saved my after robbery
Post by: DrG on October 25, 2020, 09:08:06 PM
Sorry for your loss. It sucks, especially if you had hard cash in your place.

Bitcoin saved you, because the robber was ignorant of that tiny device. If he knew, he would take it with pleasure. That's why I'm against hardware wallets. Bitcoin gives us the chance to save our money on a piece(s) of paper, which doesn't draw attention and/or memorizing the seed. It's not hard, you just have to find the perfect seed.

Keep calm and carry on  ;)

what can the robber do with his Trezor without the key or seed?  ??? ???
Isn't the seed inside the hardware?

Yes the hardware wallets use a seed based of the inherent base index of the device itself, like a hardware token. The purpose of a good hardware wallet is that you can keep it on your desktop plugged into your computer and not worry about it being stolen and being accessed to have your wallet drained. Even if the thief has your device, he doesn't have your biometrics or your pin (most devices reset after 3 failed attempts). This allows you to properly store copies of you keys in remote areas of your house or even outside your country (depending on paranoia level) for long term retrieval in case your house burns down or a thief steals the device.


Title: Re: Trezor saved my after robbery
Post by: BuNga_cute on October 25, 2020, 09:13:57 PM
I think you are just lucky because the thief lacks knowledge of hardware wallets, and next time don't keep your Trezor under the bed.
Find a place to hide the Trezor you have safe, I suggest saving it in a safe-deposit box with a password or a deposit box at the bank.
But this is a lesson for all of us, it turns out that Bitcoin is not easily stolen, unlike other valuable objects. Therefore, until now I have
kept most of my wealth in Bitcoin.


Title: Re: Trezor saved my after robbery
Post by: verita1 on October 25, 2020, 09:41:47 PM
I'm sorry that you suffered the theft while sightseeing with your family. Although it must have been an unpleasant experience, you were very lucky that the thief did not take your Trezor. Certainly its design looks like a toy, your Bitcoin was safe this time. After this experience you need to keep your devices more secure. Thank you for sharing your experience because you alert us to be more cautious.


Title: Re: Trezor saved my after robbery
Post by: o_e_l_e_o on October 25, 2020, 09:44:51 PM
what can the robber do with his Trezor without the key or seed?  ??? ???
Steal his coins.

All Trezor devices have an unfixable hardware vulnerability which allows an attacker with physical access to the device to extract the seed phrase in a matter of minutes. It cannot be patched. The only way to mitigate the attack is to use a long and complex passphrase, so when the attacker does gain access to the seed phrase, they still have to bruteforce the passphrase before being able to steal the coins.

See here for more information: https://donjon.ledger.com/Unfixable-Key-Extraction-Attack-on-Trezor
And see here for details on how to use a passphrase, which every Trezor owner should be doing: https://wiki.trezor.io/Passphrase


Title: Re: Trezor saved my after robbery
Post by: aesma on October 25, 2020, 11:14:31 PM
Yeah so if the OP isn't up to snuff on security, which clearly seems to be the case (Trezor under the mattress...) then he probably doesn't use a passphrase either.

BTW that's one thing I prefer with the ledger nano S, it really looks like a USB key, so you can keep it in a box with tons of other USB keys, it's very inconspicuous.


Title: Re: Trezor saved my after robbery
Post by: Twentyonepaylots on October 25, 2020, 11:17:22 PM
Trezor didn't save you, the criminal's lack of knowledge about Bitcoin did.
Indeed they were looking for money and didn't know about the new form of money found online that can be store in a kid-toy looking flashdrive lmao

And some robbers could have just taken a hardware wallet without knowing what it is, to figure out later, or maybe they would have though that it's some sort of USB drive with valuable data? You need to store your hardware wallet in secure place, relying on criminals not knowing what to do with it is just security by obscurity, and this security is extremely unreliable.
They probably thought it was a flashdrive with files in it but to be honest a hardwallet under the bed isn't a good idea for me, you're right burglars could have took it without knowing anything about it, that kinda save you from those bad people and also you're saved coz you used a hardwallet to secure some of your funds. Still blessed I guess.


Title: Re: Trezor saved my after robbery
Post by: Coroline on October 26, 2020, 01:10:56 AM
very attractive and even a thief cannot recognize the most valuable item you have. That way of course you can easily recover the economy, but what if your bedroom catches fire when you are on vacation abroad and Trezor burns under your bed, will Trezor save you?

The conclusion is, we live in a shadow of luck. But people who wish luck without putting in effort, are meaningless.
It is better to store bitcoins in a different place so as not to lose all our assets when a problem occurs


Title: Re: Trezor saved my after robbery
Post by: JakobFugger on October 26, 2020, 02:24:02 AM
This story is a little strange. Maybe because you haven't developed everything that happened. Did you just stay with Trezor? Did you use it on any computer on the street? Also, did they steal your documents and credit cards? They were still recoverable when contacting the bank.

Bitcoin is interesting as a store of value. It is a portable safe. But still, a portable wallet like Trezor has very large risks close to that of other assets. With the advantage of having a password, but credit cards also have them.


Title: Re: Trezor saved my after robbery
Post by: #dhabitamartha on October 26, 2020, 02:40:35 AM
I am a tourist in other country and living in the nature
Someone rob the house and rob everything laptop, money credit cards, phone
But Only the trezor under the bed he not rob.
he probably thought is some gadget for kids.

Is saved me because i use loclbitcoins and sold my btc later and still have money with no worries
bitcoin = freedom

Sometimes robbers do not understand and know that gadget technology is expensive because he also doesn't know how to open it, so this is the advantage of bitcoin when we don't have real money or assets, it seems that bitcoin investment can serve to save us from bad things.