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Title: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: VoskCoin on October 30, 2020, 08:20:49 PM
The new graphics cards from AMD will be GREAT at GPU mining, but does that even matter? Let's review the 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800 specifications and expected GPU mining hashrates and profitability!
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GPU mining is certainly not dead, as miners earn millions of dollars a day in GPU mining revenue, so naturally new and more powerful graphics are incredibly interesting for gamers and GPU miners alike. AMD recently released two of the most profitable graphics cards for mining, the 5600 XT and the 5700 XT. The RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800 are expected to be provide the mining hashrates as compared to their previous generation of RX 5000 series GPUs.
GPU miners compete with other GPU miners, but they also compete and lose against ASIC miners on the same mining algorithm, having newer and more powerful graphics cards allow GPU miners to mine more efficiently and profitably on Ethereum, the most profitable coin to GPU mine. Let's review the new AMD RX 6900, 6800 XT, and 6800 graphics cards and why they are so exciting for a GPU miner and will be used to build many GPU mining rigs!

Links!
AMD RX 5600 XT vs RX 5700 XT GPU mining hashrates - http://voskco.in/HNps
Ethereum ETH GPU mining profit calculator - http://voskco.in/of56
AMD RX 6900 XT 6800 XT 6800 prices - http://voskco.in/Rlkm
Gamers Nexus AMD RX 6900 6800 XT review -  http://voskco.in/jJgX
Red Panda Mining RX 6900 6800 ETH hashrate - http://voskco.in/xPRv
Bits Be Trippin RX 6900 XT GPU mining hashrates - http://voskco.in/9rpW
AMD RDNA 2 architecture video - http://voskco.in/GzHl
Miners are upgrading the Innosilicon A10 Ethereum ASIC miners with more memory to continue ASIC mining ETH in 2020 and 2021 - https://voskcointalk.com/t/new-firmware-innosilicon-a10-hashrate-issues-a10-4gb-to-6gb-upgrade-option/8137/4?u=voskcoin

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Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: reb0rn21 on October 31, 2020, 03:28:52 AM
I did not watch all but most AMD turds are full of shit for 68xx and ETH speed, they have no basic idea what is the limiting factor
saying it will hash 100Mhs can say only total clueless moron and some to post videos about that are insane, or they are here just for click bait shit

memory spec is 512GB/s theoretical speed at 100% utilization and 0 latency is 64Mhs... add on that maybe some magic optimization where ~3% DAG go to L3 which can be read by all CU at once at insane speed maybe add 5% on top, all rest is pure insanity by ppl with no brains


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: Metroid on October 31, 2020, 03:40:52 AM
I did not watch all but most AMD turds are full of shit for 68xx and ETH speed, they have no basic idea what is the limiting factor
saying it will hash 100Mhs can say only total clueless moron and some to post videos about that are insane, or they are here just for click bait shit

memory spec is 512GB/s theoretical speed at 100% utilization and 0 latency is 64Mhs... add on that maybe some magic optimization where ~3% DAG go to L3 which can be read by all CU at once at insane speed maybe add 5% on top, all rest is pure insanity by ppl with no brains

If you say to those people 32 + 32 = 64, they will say that you are crazy and will point out that 32 + 32 is actually 94 without any basis to why is 94, better move on and let them be. Those people are sick, they are against maths and truth. They prefer to believe there are dragons flying around, the earth is not round and so on.


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: Grim on October 31, 2020, 10:37:30 AM
It is a disgrace to see the mining-community spouting these clueless numbers. Shame on you guys ...



(on the other hand math won't fix the flat earth puzzle because it works out very well for it)  :-X


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: VoskCoin on November 06, 2020, 11:46:30 PM
I did not watch all but most AMD turds are full of shit for 68xx and ETH speed, they have no basic idea what is the limiting factor
saying it will hash 100Mhs can say only total clueless moron and some to post videos about that are insane, or they are here just for click bait shit

memory spec is 512GB/s theoretical speed at 100% utilization and 0 latency is 64Mhs... add on that maybe some magic optimization where ~3% DAG go to L3 which can be read by all CU at once at insane speed maybe add 5% on top, all rest is pure insanity by ppl with no brains

time will tell, just wanted to have fun rounding up all of the current data and info I could find -- was going to do this for my personal research so figured why not just roll it into a video :shrug:


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: heavyarms1912 on November 07, 2020, 12:33:28 AM
I did not watch all but most AMD turds are full of shit for 68xx and ETH speed, they have no basic idea what is the limiting factor
saying it will hash 100Mhs can say only total clueless moron and some to post videos about that are insane, or they are here just for click bait shit

memory spec is 512GB/s theoretical speed at 100% utilization and 0 latency is 64Mhs... add on that maybe some magic optimization where ~3% DAG go to L3 which can be read by all CU at once at insane speed maybe add 5% on top, all rest is pure insanity by ppl with no brains

This.  512GB/s is the memory bandwidth and I am seeing all mining youtubers calling out weird shit numbers.  It's going to be around 65 MHs but will be efficient than Navi.


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: VoskCoin on November 07, 2020, 01:01:57 AM
I did not watch all but most AMD turds are full of shit for 68xx and ETH speed, they have no basic idea what is the limiting factor
saying it will hash 100Mhs can say only total clueless moron and some to post videos about that are insane, or they are here just for click bait shit

memory spec is 512GB/s theoretical speed at 100% utilization and 0 latency is 64Mhs... add on that maybe some magic optimization where ~3% DAG go to L3 which can be read by all CU at once at insane speed maybe add 5% on top, all rest is pure insanity by ppl with no brains

This.  512GB/s is the memory bandwidth and I am seeing all mining youtubers calling out weird shit numbers.  It's going to be around 65 MHs but will be efficient than Navi.
but but but but the compute units!!!!
https://i.imgur.com/0OKQklQ.gif


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: heavyarms1912 on November 07, 2020, 09:26:12 PM
I did not watch all but most AMD turds are full of shit for 68xx and ETH speed, they have no basic idea what is the limiting factor
saying it will hash 100Mhs can say only total clueless moron and some to post videos about that are insane, or they are here just for click bait shit

memory spec is 512GB/s theoretical speed at 100% utilization and 0 latency is 64Mhs... add on that maybe some magic optimization where ~3% DAG go to L3 which can be read by all CU at once at insane speed maybe add 5% on top, all rest is pure insanity by ppl with no brains

This.  512GB/s is the memory bandwidth and I am seeing all mining youtubers calling out weird shit numbers.  It's going to be around 65 MHs but will be efficient than Navi.
but but but but the compute units!!!!
https://i.imgur.com/0OKQklQ.gif

Compute units will help in core intensive mining algos not for ethash which is already memory bound/heavy. 
Here's an example.  2070 super had more compute units but similar memory configuration to 2070 and hashes the same?
Did eth hashrate increase for vega 56 to vega 64 even with extra compute units?

The difference that you see for 56/64 in hashrate is because of HBM2 clocks and timings.
If vega 56 and vega 64 are clocked same and same timings hashrate would be the same.

You see RTX 3080 hashing 100 MHs is because memory bandwidth is 760 GB/s.  Radeon VII has 1 TB/s so actually it has more memory headroom but is limited by other factors on that card.


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: miner29 on November 07, 2020, 10:43:48 PM
but but but but....ill take sarcasm for $300 Alex....


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: Metroid on November 09, 2020, 12:29:06 PM
"AMD 6800 card just arrived, mining performance at default is amazing, it reached 1.5 times performance of 3090, or even more. I guess non of you will be able to buy this card…. what tests you guys want to see?"

https://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-rx-6800-50-faster-geforce-rtx-3090-at-crypto-mining-rumor/

https://www.chiphell.com/thread-2274669-1-1.html

I wonder how true this statement really is.


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: badbart on November 09, 2020, 01:32:15 PM
I'm glad i didn't buy a bunch of 3080s, looks very promising, might be more efficient then an Eth ASIC.


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: fr4nkthetank on November 09, 2020, 01:43:51 PM
I highly doubt it.  Although the new amd gpus seem to clock really high, 2250 or more.  I can see good perf in many algos.  I just want to benchmark for myself but hey if they didnt sell truckloads directly to big buyers, maybe consumers would have a chance to get one.  LOOKING AT YOU XFX.  edit:  if they had gddr6x @ 19gps it would be amazing


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: mochaaa on November 09, 2020, 03:56:56 PM
didnt they already say it was gddr6


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: fr4nkthetank on November 09, 2020, 05:34:43 PM
yeah its all 16gb DDR6


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: Grim on November 09, 2020, 05:42:22 PM
If he did just a short ETH benchmark and maybe even at epoch 1 (just about 1 gig for the dag file) than the 128mb on die cache can spike your hashrate probably very high and your "average hashrate" printed in the miner console will be VERY wrong until it averages out after many minutes ...


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: agente on November 09, 2020, 06:12:18 PM
I'm glad i didn't buy a bunch of 3080s, looks very promising, might be more efficient then an Eth ASIC.

Not your choice of course  ;D
Out of stock everywhere


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: ZeeeN on November 09, 2020, 07:45:13 PM
I'm glad i didn't buy a bunch of 3080s, looks very promising, might be more efficient then an Eth ASIC.

out of stock everywhere and have some heat problem for mining make hashrate drop


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: rdluffy on November 09, 2020, 10:27:23 PM
"AMD 6800 card just arrived, mining performance at default is amazing, it reached 1.5 times performance of 3090, or even more. I guess non of you will be able to buy this card…. what tests you guys want to see?"

https://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-rx-6800-50-faster-geforce-rtx-3090-at-crypto-mining-rumor/

https://www.chiphell.com/thread-2274669-1-1.html

I wonder how true this statement really is.

I just saw this on wccftech, and I'm confused to be honest

I believe that AMD GPUs will be better for mining, but if we do the math, 120Mhs of 3090 RTX, are doing 3.43 USD daily, according to Nicehash Calculator
To gain 1.5 times more, the hashrate of ETH should be 180Mhs  :o ???
It's insane, and if this is true, Infinity Cache is something big for miners

I don't know what to think right now, this is not good news, because nobody will have opportunity to buy cards this year  >:( :D


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: Metroid on November 09, 2020, 11:27:57 PM
I just saw this on wccftech, and I'm confused to be honest

I believe that AMD GPUs will be better for mining, but if we do the math, 120Mhs of 3090 RTX, are doing 3.43 USD daily, according to Nicehash Calculator
To gain 1.5 times more, the hashrate of ETH should be 180Mhs  :o ???
It's insane, and if this is true, Infinity Cache is something big for miners

I don't know what to think right now, this is not good news, because nobody will have opportunity to buy cards this year  >:( :D

Don't let the hype get you out of control hehe, 1.5x x 3090 must be a specific algorithm and not everything.


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: fmz89 on November 10, 2020, 02:55:48 AM
I did not watch all but most AMD turds are full of shit for 68xx and ETH speed, they have no basic idea what is the limiting factor
saying it will hash 100Mhs can say only total clueless moron and some to post videos about that are insane, or they are here just for click bait shit

memory spec is 512GB/s theoretical speed at 100% utilization and 0 latency is 64Mhs... add on that maybe some magic optimization where ~3% DAG go to L3 which can be read by all CU at once at insane speed maybe add 5% on top, all rest is pure insanity by ppl with no brains

This.  512GB/s is the memory bandwidth and I am seeing all mining youtubers calling out weird shit numbers.  It's going to be around 65 MHs but will be efficient than Navi.
but but but but the compute units!!!!
https://i.imgur.com/0OKQklQ.gif
the compute units only small impact for memory mining like progpow,ethash

and surely for compute algo will soar but already crowding by fpga miner doesnt benefit for gpu mining

with infinite cache should be impact on memory mining in different way


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: cudapop on November 10, 2020, 03:01:31 AM
I just saw this on wccftech, and I'm confused to be honest

I believe that AMD GPUs will be better for mining, but if we do the math, 120Mhs of 3090 RTX, are doing 3.43 USD daily, according to Nicehash Calculator
To gain 1.5 times more, the hashrate of ETH should be 180Mhs  :o ???
It's insane, and if this is true, Infinity Cache is something big for miners

I don't know what to think right now, this is not good news, because nobody will have opportunity to buy cards this year  >:( :D

If this is talking about ETH then it looks like they just applied AMD's claimed "Infinity Cache" memory bandwidth boost of around ~2x over a 384 bit bus:

384 bit bus bandwidth for GDDR6 at 16 gbps = 384 * 16 / 8 = 768 GB/s
With AMD claimed bandwidth boost of ~2x = 768 * 2 = 1536 GB/s
Which gives a theoretical zero latency ETH hashrate = 1539 / 8192 * 1000 = 187.5 MH/s
3090 gives about 120+ MH/s

So 187.5 MH/s is about 56% more than the 3090's 120 MH/s

Looks like they just applied some math to get those numbers. Guess we'll know soon enough how the infinity cache actually affects ETH mining in reality vs. theoretically.


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: ol92 on November 10, 2020, 09:35:22 AM
I just saw this on wccftech, and I'm confused to be honest

I believe that AMD GPUs will be better for mining, but if we do the math, 120Mhs of 3090 RTX, are doing 3.43 USD daily, according to Nicehash Calculator
To gain 1.5 times more, the hashrate of ETH should be 180Mhs  :o ???
It's insane, and if this is true, Infinity Cache is something big for miners

I don't know what to think right now, this is not good news, because nobody will have opportunity to buy cards this year  >:( :D

If this is talking about ETH then it looks like they just applied AMD's claimed "Infinity Cache" memory bandwidth boost of around ~2x over a 384 bit bus:

384 bit bus bandwidth for GDDR6 at 16 gbps = 384 * 16 / 8 = 768 GB/s
With AMD claimed bandwidth boost of ~2x = 768 * 2 = 1536 GB/s
Which gives a theoretical zero latency ETH hashrate = 1539 / 8192 * 1000 = 187.5 MH/s
3090 gives about 120+ MH/s

So 187.5 MH/s is about 56% more than the 3090's 120 MH/s

Looks like they just applied some math to get those numbers. Guess we'll know soon enough how the infinity cache actually affects ETH mining in reality vs. theoretically.
taking into account that ETH DAG is too big for the cache, I don't believe this rumoured performance (except if this for another algo than ETH). Beside I am not sure that the whole 128 MB space will be available for caching portion of the DAG...


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: Metroid on November 10, 2020, 10:53:20 AM
taking into account that ETH DAG is too big for the cache, I don't believe this rumoured performance (except if this for another algo than ETH). Beside I am not sure that the whole 128 MB space will be available for caching portion of the DAG...

Smart cache holds only data that is in use most of the time, it's a bridge, this is how it works,  cpu <--> cache <--> gpu, running a few percentage faster than it normally would be, it does not do miracles but it can do miracles if a type of data is used all the time, need to test and see.


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: DrG on November 10, 2020, 12:25:28 PM
The infinity cache won't really do much since you can make the assumption that even if you could cache 128MB (Cache)/4096MB (DAG) you're going to have a pretty low hit rate of about 1/32 with a 4GB DAG. This is assuming you could write some of the DAG compute to the cache. I could see this being very beneficial for some of the other algos where a large DAG is not involved, perhaps a new algos will evolve from it.


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: igotek on November 10, 2020, 12:55:29 PM
Still waiting for the price and ethash hasrate information. There are just rumours. We need the real values.

I have already 108 pcs RX570 4GB, 108 pcs RX470 4GB, 192 pcs P106-100 6GB and 108 pcs RX5700 XT. I'm replacing my old GPU miners with the newest models and 108 pcs RX 5700 XT GPUs was my first move. I'm selling my old stuff and buying new gear. I sold my old NVIDIA GTX1050 GPUs and I bought 108 pcs RX 5700 XT GPUs. These new gear is awesome. I have a plan about buying 108 pcs 6800 XT or 6900 X depends on the details.




Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: percy_tc on November 10, 2020, 01:56:07 PM
Still waiting for the price and ethash hasrate information. There are just rumours. We need the real values.

I have already 108 pcs RX570 4GB, 108 pcs RX470 4GB, 192 pcs P106-100 6GB and 108 pcs RX5700 XT. I'm replacing my old GPU miners with the newest models and 108 pcs RX 5700 XT GPUs was my first move. I'm selling my old stuff and buying new gear. I sold my old NVIDIA GTX1050 GPUs and I bought 108 pcs RX 5700 XT GPUs. These new gear is awesome. I have a plan about buying 108 pcs 6800 XT or 6900 X depends on the details.




Thats a lot! Take a picture  ;D


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: Dowper_ on November 10, 2020, 02:11:59 PM
Only 8 days left, I hope they will be available at launch.


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: john1010 on November 10, 2020, 03:14:50 PM
does anyway here tried this gpu, what is the hash result? I wish someone here share the mod for this card.I am still hoping that the gpu mining will soon goin to become profitable, because as a small miner we never get a good profit much of the minted coin will goes to the electricity consumption billing.


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: miner29 on November 10, 2020, 03:23:53 PM
does anyway here tried this gpu, what is the hash result? I wish someone here share the mod for this card.I am still hoping that the gpu mining will soon goin to become profitable, because as a small miner we never get a good profit much of the minted coin will goes to the electricity consumption billing.

Well seeing as the cards go on sale in 8 days no...no one has much real info on them.


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: agente on November 10, 2020, 05:48:16 PM
Still waiting for the price and ethash hasrate information. There are just rumours. We need the real values.

I have already 108 pcs RX570 4GB, 108 pcs RX470 4GB, 192 pcs P106-100 6GB and 108 pcs RX5700 XT. I'm replacing my old GPU miners with the newest models and 108 pcs RX 5700 XT GPUs was my first move. I'm selling my old stuff and buying new gear. I sold my old NVIDIA GTX1050 GPUs and I bought 108 pcs RX 5700 XT GPUs. These new gear is awesome. I have a plan about buying 108 pcs 6800 XT or 6900 X depends on the details.




108 is the number!


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: fmz89 on November 12, 2020, 01:12:01 PM
damn everything is expensive now, rtx 3070 overpriced to 650$ in my country similiar to console launching right now

pretty sure new amd gpu will overpriced when they come and gpu mining with bull run happen right now, became hard choice to wait or buy instead

surely next 3 month if profit mining continue to climb, doesnt have any advantage of the price new gpus, gamer & miner pick up pretty fast


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: heavyarms1912 on November 13, 2020, 07:17:07 PM
Meh
Quote
The mining perf of 6800 XT is a bit higher than 5700 XT, much lower than RTX 3080.
Is that a good news?
https://twitter.com/kopite7kimi/status/1327125321422868480


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: Metroid on November 14, 2020, 03:40:21 AM
damn everything is expensive now, rtx 3070 overpriced to 650$ in my country similiar to console launching right now

People having more money than sense is the problem, this pandemic, made govs from around the world to distribute money in excess to people, reason cryptocoins are rising fast, and local fiat currencies are crashing fast, do not be surprised if bitcoin hits 50k or eth hits 6k in few months, huge value correction is being set around the world. Going back in the 80's, the US gov used to say millions, today they say trillions hehe. You people need to boycott it in order for the product to be sold lower than what it is, Do not buy it if price is higher than msrp.

Meh
Quote
The mining perf of 6800 XT is a bit higher than 5700 XT, much lower than RTX 3080.
Is that a good news?
https://twitter.com/kopite7kimi/status/1327125321422868480

No surprise here. I guess amd troll fans saying 1.5 performance x 3090 is just a fairytale after all, those same trolls are known to hype every amd release.


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: rdluffy on November 14, 2020, 07:26:23 PM
Meh
Quote
The mining perf of 6800 XT is a bit higher than 5700 XT, much lower than RTX 3080.
Is that a good news?
https://twitter.com/kopite7kimi/status/1327125321422868480

This is good, I expect something around 75Mhs consuming 140 to 160w.
Better than previous generations, but not a killing that make older cards obsoletes

But at this point I think people will buy every single card like RTXs or new AMDs, for mining and gaming, no matter the costs, and this is insane
I hope I can grab a 6800 or 3080 but at a good price, I refuse to pay what costs right now

Let's see if AMD can offer more cards to public


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: heavyarms1912 on November 15, 2020, 07:41:22 AM
Meh
Quote
The mining perf of 6800 XT is a bit higher than 5700 XT, much lower than RTX 3080.
Is that a good news?
https://twitter.com/kopite7kimi/status/1327125321422868480

This is good, I expect something around 75Mhs consuming 140 to 160w.
Better than previous generations, but not a killing that make older cards obsoletes

But at this point I think people will buy every single card like RTXs or new AMDs, for mining and gaming, no matter the costs, and this is insane
I hope I can grab a 6800 or 3080 but at a good price, I refuse to pay what costs right now

Let's see if AMD can offer more cards to public


I expect them to hash around 63-65 MHs at stock memory frequencies.


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: rednoW on November 15, 2020, 06:31:09 PM

I expect them to hash around 63-65 MHs at stock memory frequencies.
no way )) only with oc and timings ))


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: fr4nkthetank on November 15, 2020, 07:13:00 PM
I say 56-57mhs stock and yeah 63-65 optimized
All for 579$usd lol, but what the power consumption going to be vs 5700xt


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: mochaaa on November 15, 2020, 08:30:50 PM
more than likely a proportionately higher MH than the 5700/xt based on price point, not necessarily linearly, but close (with optimization). The question isnt so much will it be good at mining, but how good. even with a linear increase in MH/$, if there is even  a 10-15% increase in efficiency, it will be out of stock for many months


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: reb0rn21 on November 15, 2020, 09:22:22 PM
more than likely a proportionately higher MH than the 5700/xt based on price point, not necessarily linearly, but close (with optimization). The question isnt so much will it be good at mining, but how good. even with a linear increase in MH/$, if there is even  a 10-15% increase in efficiency, it will be out of stock for many months

what price has to do with mining speed  ;D ??? ::)


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: heavyarms1912 on November 16, 2020, 02:10:12 AM

I expect them to hash around 63-65 MHs at stock memory frequencies.
no way )) only with oc and timings ))

Yeah optimized hashrate would be around that.  maybe a little higher depending on how far the gddr6 could be overclocked


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: SalvajeX on November 16, 2020, 03:30:36 PM
Hey folks, don't we have any real numbers from a testing?
I guess if the "unboxing" is out we should have some hashrates as well?


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: percy_tc on November 16, 2020, 04:23:17 PM
In case if someone intersted in unboxing video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K48-nO441pg (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K48-nO441pg)


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: ZeeeN on November 16, 2020, 05:50:19 PM
everytime before amd sell new vga card have many rumor about ETH hashrate everyone so hype.

when vga release to sell hashrate not same as rumor.


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: fapar on November 16, 2020, 06:06:40 PM
everytime before amd sell new vga card have many rumor about ETH hashrate everyone so hype.

when vga release to sell hashrate not same as rumor.
In any case, the video card manufacturer will fulfill the specified goal - sell the card and make a profit. This was also the case with the release of the 30*0 series of NVIDIA, and it will be the same with the release of 6*00 AMD. In any case, the hashrate will be higher than the previous generation.


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: Benedict4K on November 16, 2020, 10:36:42 PM
It is  easy to calculate ETHASH  power  ow Radeon 6800XT  , it is  close  to  2x 5700XT   =  103 to 115 MH/s


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: P00P135 on November 16, 2020, 10:42:14 PM
It is  easy to calculate ETHASH  power  ow Radeon 6800XT  , it is  close  to  2x 5700XT   =  103 to 115 MH/s

Make up numbers very easy indeed   ::)


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: reb0rn21 on November 16, 2020, 11:41:46 PM
It is  easy to calculate ETHASH  power  ow Radeon 6800XT  , it is  close  to  2x 5700XT   =  103 to 115 MH/s

can you explain pls how you come to this number  :o


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: DrG on November 17, 2020, 09:04:51 AM
It is  easy to calculate ETHASH  power  ow Radeon 6800XT  , it is  close  to  2x 5700XT   =  103 to 115 MH/s

can you explain pls how you come to this number  :o

It's about as accurate as his/her last post which was guessing ETH would be $9900 at the end of June in 2019. By core count and memory used it looks like it will only be in the 60MH/s. It seems AMD has made significant improvements in efficiency of the architecture so performance per watt in gaming should go up quite a bit. Perhaps it will do the 60 or so MH with the same power draw as the 5700XT which would be about a 20% improvement.

They announced their computer cards today so I expect those to be the real dagger hashimoto winners.


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: damba_ on November 18, 2020, 02:41:21 PM
Video was recently released showing RX 6800 XT mining ETH @ ~65 MH/s when overclocked.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o---4uec1X4&ab_channel=DizzyMining (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o---4uec1X4&ab_channel=DizzyMining)


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: DrG on November 18, 2020, 02:52:18 PM
Video was recently released showing RX 6800 XT mining ETH @ ~65 MH/s when overclocked.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o---4uec1X4&ab_channel=DizzyMining (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o---4uec1X4&ab_channel=DizzyMining)

So 170watts at the system level to pull in an extra 10MH/s over a 5700XT that can do the same with 100-110watts. Looks like the miners are going to need some tweaking to get anywhere near 70MH without melting the memory. No stock on Amazon and Microcenter had low amounts so meh thus far.


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: rdluffy on November 18, 2020, 03:37:49 PM
Video was recently released showing RX 6800 XT mining ETH @ ~65 MH/s when overclocked.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o---4uec1X4&ab_channel=DizzyMining (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o---4uec1X4&ab_channel=DizzyMining)

So 170watts at the system level to pull in an extra 10MH/s over a 5700XT that can do the same with 100-110watts. Looks like the miners are going to need some tweaking to get anywhere near 70MH without melting the memory. No stock on Amazon and Microcenter had low amounts so meh thus far.

Oh, this is good, I expected a little more, like 75Mhs with OC, but 65Mhs right now, and with some tweaks, new models of cards and brands, miner program's updates, I believe 6800xt can achieve 70Mhs in near future
And I said it's good because at this point, a 100mhs card more efficient than previous navis would crash (even more) the GPUs market, at least people won't rush to buy to mine, and gamers will have opportunity to buy
AMD 5700's still looking good and efficient, I was waiting to make a decision and to me, it's better to buy 5600 or 5700 right now, because it's available in my country and no need to wait weeks


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: geck on November 18, 2020, 03:41:49 PM
Video was recently released showing RX 6800 XT mining ETH @ ~65 MH/s when overclocked.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o---4uec1X4&ab_channel=DizzyMining (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o---4uec1X4&ab_channel=DizzyMining)

So 170watts at the system level to pull in an extra 10MH/s over a 5700XT that can do the same with 100-110watts. Looks like the miners are going to need some tweaking to get anywhere near 70MH without melting the memory. No stock on Amazon and Microcenter had low amounts so meh thus far.

it was running at 880mV and there was only a small overclock on the memory. 70MH @ 150w might be achievable


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: Metroid on November 18, 2020, 03:50:22 PM
As always, I was right when I said rx 6800 xt would be a little better than the rx 5700 for mining. I hope whoever said 150 mh/s on eth deserves its head decapitated, I do understand hype but beyond the hype itself x reality, it surely deserves a punishment, don't ever trust any chinese forums, trust science and math.

I guess now people are once again happy with their rx 5700 ehhe, I guess many idiots sold their 5700 in order to buy the new amd ones.

I guess amd got it right this time, finally a gaming gpu that miners dont want to mess with eheh, stock will be abundant ehhe, gamers won't complain ehhe, 3080 still the best choice for mining on high density, nothing better, even the 3080ti will not be any better than 3080 aside from the 20gb of gddrx6 but the price tag of $999 will be just too much.



Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: batsonxl on November 18, 2020, 08:57:32 PM
As always, I was right when I said rx 6800 xt would be a little better than the rx 5700 for mining. I hope whoever said 150 mh/s on eth deserves its head decapitated, I do understand hype but beyond the hype itself x reality, it surely deserves a punishment, don't ever trust any chinese forums, trust science and math.

I guess now people are once again happy with their rx 5700 ehhe, I guess many idiots sold their 5700 in order to buy the new amd ones.

I guess amd got it right this time, finally a gaming gpu that miners dont want to mess with eheh, stock will be abundant ehhe, gamers won't complain ehhe, 3080 still the best choice for mining on high density, nothing better, even the 3080ti will not be any better than 3080 aside from the 20gb of gddrx6 but the price tag of $999 will be just too much.


wait for it, after miner devoloper optimization rx6800xt will hit 100-120mhs easy, we still dont know how new cache will effect mining. dont pay attantion that 256bits it says it works like 512bits, so wait and we see. Remember when 1st 5700 came out, they were doing 3mhs.
After amd and nvida earns good money then profit will drop then maybe then i can afford buy some cards.


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: mochaaa on November 18, 2020, 10:04:17 PM
This makes a mining version of a rdna (5700/xt) a bit more interesting


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: heavyarms1912 on November 18, 2020, 10:08:43 PM
As always, I was right when I said rx 6800 xt would be a little better than the rx 5700 for mining. I hope whoever said 150 mh/s on eth deserves its head decapitated, I do understand hype but beyond the hype itself x reality, it surely deserves a punishment, don't ever trust any chinese forums, trust science and math.

I guess now people are once again happy with their rx 5700 ehhe, I guess many idiots sold their 5700 in order to buy the new amd ones.

I guess amd got it right this time, finally a gaming gpu that miners dont want to mess with eheh, stock will be abundant ehhe, gamers won't complain ehhe, 3080 still the best choice for mining on high density, nothing better, even the 3080ti will not be any better than 3080 aside from the 20gb of gddrx6 but the price tag of $999 will be just too much.


wait for it, after miner devoloper optimization rx6800xt will hit 100-120mhs easy, we still dont know how new cache will effect mining. dont pay attantion that 256bits it says it works like 512bits, so wait and we see. Remember when 1st 5700 came out, they were doing 3mhs.
After amd and nvida earns good money then profit will drop then maybe then i can afford buy some cards.

ethash will not be able to utilize that 128mb cache.  Regarding 3 Mhs on RX 5700 comment it was obvious that rx 5700 could do a lot more theoretically but this one doesn't and won't be 100-120 MHs.


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: xMindx163 on November 18, 2020, 10:13:24 PM
66MH/s  AND 200+ at Wall
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggKisvNwEGY


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: alumar on November 18, 2020, 11:19:59 PM
I benchmark briefly near the end of the video, longer one tonight on livestream, after the build tonight.

https://youtu.be/ZcQXfyQAATc (https://youtu.be/ZcQXfyQAATc)


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: aesma on November 18, 2020, 11:42:31 PM
More cards for gamers I guess ! I wonder if 5700 production will continue though, I doubt it. Let's see how the 6700 does.

Thanks alumar


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: P00P135 on November 19, 2020, 12:08:05 AM
More cards for gamers I guess ! I wonder if 5700 production will continue though, I doubt it. Let's see how the 6700 does.

Thanks alumar

They EOL'd 5700XT but not 5600XT's.  Should be plenty of stock left if you buy some now, but wont be once everyone see's the numbers of the 6XXX's


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: jstefanop on November 19, 2020, 04:37:27 PM
As always, I was right when I said rx 6800 xt would be a little better than the rx 5700 for mining. I hope whoever said 150 mh/s on eth deserves its head decapitated, I do understand hype but beyond the hype itself x reality, it surely deserves a punishment, don't ever trust any chinese forums, trust science and math.

I guess now people are once again happy with their rx 5700 ehhe, I guess many idiots sold their 5700 in order to buy the new amd ones.

I guess amd got it right this time, finally a gaming gpu that miners dont want to mess with eheh, stock will be abundant ehhe, gamers won't complain ehhe, 3080 still the best choice for mining on high density, nothing better, even the 3080ti will not be any better than 3080 aside from the 20gb of gddrx6 but the price tag of $999 will be just too much.


wait for it, after miner devoloper optimization rx6800xt will hit 100-120mhs easy, we still dont know how new cache will effect mining. dont pay attantion that 256bits it says it works like 512bits, so wait and we see. Remember when 1st 5700 came out, they were doing 3mhs.
After amd and nvida earns good money then profit will drop then maybe then i can afford buy some cards.

ethash will not be able to utilize that 128mb cache.  Regarding 3 Mhs on RX 5700 comment it was obvious that rx 5700 could do a lot more theoretically but this one doesn't and won't be 100-120 MHs.

It can, but mining software needs to be updated for it. 128mb of the dag can be loaded into the cache, and the rest into GDDR6. ~3% of dag hits will take place on the cache which would translate to about ~10% increase in hashrate.

These can also take advantage of the pipeline improvements by generating multiple DAGs (up to 3 with 16GB GDDR6) that was only possible on the Radeon VII before (see how teamredminer does it). Should offer a couple more %.

Cache + Multiple DAGs + Timings will get these over 80MH eventually.


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: rednoW on November 19, 2020, 05:48:27 PM
These can also take advantage of the pipeline improvements by generating multiple DAGs (up to 3 with 16GB GDDR6) that was only possible on the Radeon VII before (see how teamredminer does it). Should offer a couple more %.


Radeon VII still cannot effectively address over 8gb memory with current (and previous) adrenalin (gaming) drivers. Only with some kind of "pro" drivers it can be done (and vega frontier too). But this "pro" drivers suffer from lack of hardware tweaking support that way making them unusable for mining.


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: fr4nkthetank on November 19, 2020, 09:22:00 PM
I may be wrong, but infinity cache etc works to reduce bandwidth load on memory, therefore "doubling" memory bandwidth by reducing by half the actual demand for it.  Yet in uncompressed loads like mining this looks irrelevant and bandwidth stays the same as advertised.  They can scale bandwidth load like that vs increasing memory speed like gddr6x 19gbps that nvidia uses.  cheaper and more scalable ?  I doubt we'll see a public release if we can utilise it properly.


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: percy_tc on November 19, 2020, 09:23:35 PM
Is there anywhere a proper review of 6800 for mining? Nobody seems to undervolt it /reduce TDP on youtube videos.


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: heavyarms1912 on November 20, 2020, 04:59:32 AM
As always, I was right when I said rx 6800 xt would be a little better than the rx 5700 for mining. I hope whoever said 150 mh/s on eth deserves its head decapitated, I do understand hype but beyond the hype itself x reality, it surely deserves a punishment, don't ever trust any chinese forums, trust science and math.

I guess now people are once again happy with their rx 5700 ehhe, I guess many idiots sold their 5700 in order to buy the new amd ones.

I guess amd got it right this time, finally a gaming gpu that miners dont want to mess with eheh, stock will be abundant ehhe, gamers won't complain ehhe, 3080 still the best choice for mining on high density, nothing better, even the 3080ti will not be any better than 3080 aside from the 20gb of gddrx6 but the price tag of $999 will be just too much.


wait for it, after miner devoloper optimization rx6800xt will hit 100-120mhs easy, we still dont know how new cache will effect mining. dont pay attantion that 256bits it says it works like 512bits, so wait and we see. Remember when 1st 5700 came out, they were doing 3mhs.
After amd and nvida earns good money then profit will drop then maybe then i can afford buy some cards.

ethash will not be able to utilize that 128mb cache.  Regarding 3 Mhs on RX 5700 comment it was obvious that rx 5700 could do a lot more theoretically but this one doesn't and won't be 100-120 MHs.

It can, but mining software needs to be updated for it. 128mb of the dag can be loaded into the cache, and the rest into GDDR6. ~3% of dag hits will take place on the cache which would translate to about ~10% increase in hashrate.

These can also take advantage of the pipeline improvements by generating multiple DAGs (up to 3 with 16GB GDDR6) that was only possible on the Radeon VII before (see how teamredminer does it). Should offer a couple more %.

Cache + Multiple DAGs + Timings will get these over 80MH eventually.

3% cache hit yeah. How did that translate to 10% performance boost?  Radeon VII is already core/power/temp limited isn't it?


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: rednoW on November 20, 2020, 05:47:26 AM
If amd would made navi2 2ghz+ gpu with hbm2 4096 bit wide mem like vii has it would never go to gamers. So, they make pro compute card instead and limited mem bandw for gaming card ...


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: Metroid on November 20, 2020, 09:09:17 AM
If amd would made navi2 2ghz+ gpu with hbm2 4096 bit wide mem like vii has it would never go to gamers. So, they make pro compute card instead and limited mem bandw for gaming card ...

That is why I said amd got it right this time, they found something --> (infinity cache) and it only benefits gamers. So if nvidia follows which I think it will do on their new gpus next generation, then 3080 might be the best card to have for mining in years to come if gpu mining still alive. Those scalpers are buying those gpus because they think is good for mining too.


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: DrG on November 20, 2020, 09:59:15 AM
If amd would made navi2 2ghz+ gpu with hbm2 4096 bit wide mem like vii has it would never go to gamers. So, they make pro compute card instead and limited mem bandw for gaming card ...

That is why I said amd got it right this time, they found something --> (infinity cache) and it only benefits gamers. So if nvidia follows which I think it will do on their new gpus next generation, then 3080 might be the best card to have for mining in years to come if gpu mining still alive. Those scalpers are buying those gpus because they think is good for mining too.

Ah you're saying next gen nVidia won't have any real compute benefit with it's own InfinityCache version but should see gamer speeds improve? They might put that cache on the supers - I don't know how difficult it would be to integrate that into the design. I imagine they'll want the Super out sooner because AMD cards have the RAM advantage at the time being and I think the Supers were slated to have double the VRAM, so maybe no cache on them.

I think an AMD compute card coming out next March would probably blow the 3080 and Radeon VII out of the water if it had HBM and 512 bus. Considering stock is so limited now looks like I'll be forced to go that option. I don't like only having 1 or 2 cards of a certain type - much easier to populate a rig with 6-8 of the same card.


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: Metroid on November 20, 2020, 10:06:29 AM
Ah you're saying next gen nVidia won't have any real compute benefit with it's own InfinityCache version but should see gamer speeds improve? They might put that cache on the supers - I don't know how difficult it would be to integrate that into the design. I imagine they'll want the Super out sooner because AMD cards have the RAM advantage at the time being and I think the Supers were slated to have double the VRAM, so maybe no cache on them.

I think an AMD compute card coming out next March would probably blow the 3080 and Radeon VII out of the water if it had HBM and 512 bus. Considering stock is so limited now looks like I'll be forced to go that option. I don't like only having 1 or 2 cards of a certain type - much easier to populate a rig with 6-8 of the same card.

The question is, what is cost benefit here, cache or a better gram? AMD used cache and a common gdddr6, nvidia used the top gddrx6 ram. I wonder what would have happened if amd used cache and a top gddrx6. If amd wanted to create a eth mining gpu they have the means, instead of cache add hbm or both.


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: DrG on November 20, 2020, 11:42:45 AM
Ah you're saying next gen nVidia won't have any real compute benefit with it's own InfinityCache version but should see gamer speeds improve? They might put that cache on the supers - I don't know how difficult it would be to integrate that into the design. I imagine they'll want the Super out sooner because AMD cards have the RAM advantage at the time being and I think the Supers were slated to have double the VRAM, so maybe no cache on them.

I think an AMD compute card coming out next March would probably blow the 3080 and Radeon VII out of the water if it had HBM and 512 bus. Considering stock is so limited now looks like I'll be forced to go that option. I don't like only having 1 or 2 cards of a certain type - much easier to populate a rig with 6-8 of the same card.

The question is, what is cost benefit here, cache or a better gram? AMD used cache and a common gdddr6, nvidia used the top gddrx6 ram. I wonder what would have happened if amd used cache and a top gddrx6. If amd wanted to create a eth mining gpu they have the means, instead of cache add hbm or both.

I think they are adding HBM to their compute card that is coming out. They know they need to compete with nVidia in the gamer market because it will help sell their CPUs at the same time. nVidia probably has more sway commanding better pricing for GDDR6X than AMD did, but AMD has the history with TSMC and is sitting pretty with that 7nm node. With SAM the 6800 is best performance per $ in gaming at present, but meh for mining.

Datacenters already use EPYC for their clusters but with nVidia GPUs. With a good compute card they might be able to take some of that deep learning market share (and make miners happy).


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: Metroid on November 20, 2020, 12:36:38 PM
With SAM the 6800 is best performance per $ in gaming at present, but meh for mining.

Yeah, nothing can beat that, plus rx 6800 xt 30 watts or so less than rtx 3800 and yet very close in performance, I guess cache really did wonders here. I see 3080 better only in 4k/mining eth and nothing else, if people game on 1440 or lower then the rx 6800 xt is the wise choice here.


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: heavyarms1912 on November 20, 2020, 05:01:23 PM
With SAM the 6800 is best performance per $ in gaming at present, but meh for mining.

Yeah, nothing can beat that, plus rx 6800 xt 30 watts or so less than rtx 3800 and yet very close in performance, I guess cache really did wonders here. I see 3080 better only in 4k/mining eth and nothing else, if people game on 1440 or lower then the rx 6800 xt is the wise choice here.

Streamers etc. can utilize better features on Nvidia.  Raw game performance wise 6800XT seems to be the card for gamers up to 1440p.


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: aesma on November 20, 2020, 11:57:50 PM
The advantage of the GPU cache is that it can have benefits for compute cards too. Then you put faster memory on these compute cards, and now they have both fast RAM and cache.


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: Cryptomining2003 on November 21, 2020, 09:32:37 PM
nanominer seems to be one of the first miners that supports the 6000 series. I would like to see a hashrate with all 72 / 76 (how much is it? dont know) units used. then next step is to wait for a miner that can take advantage of the cache...but this might take a while I assume.


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: Metroid on November 22, 2020, 05:42:16 AM
It seems the day 256 bit memory at 400 usd is over, actually used to be $150 for 256bit memory, now is around 400 usd, soon 196 bit memory for 400 usd.

https://wccftech.com/more-radeon-rx-6700-series-details-emerge-for-a-midrange-powerhouse/


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: hellscreamer on November 23, 2020, 01:27:04 AM
Can anyone test with nanominer , they just updated to support these


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: hellscreamer on November 23, 2020, 06:07:39 PM
nvm nanominer , lolminer does 81 mh/s with 6800


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: badbart on November 23, 2020, 09:26:14 PM
nvm nanominer , lolminer does 81 mh/s with 6800

Do you know the power usage?  This might be very promising, might be better then a 3080 watts per hash.


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: mineypiney on November 23, 2020, 09:44:49 PM
This 80 rate seems largely dependent on smart access memory, which is only possible with the Ryzen 5000 series chips right now. Unsure if that is the case but so far the single source of this evidence seems to make this true.


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: P00P135 on November 23, 2020, 10:04:03 PM
BBT made a vid with 5950X and a plain 6800.  Looks pretty neat. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xd6qTNvWsKg


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: heavyarms1912 on November 23, 2020, 11:26:52 PM
BBT made a vid with 5950X and a plain 6800.  Looks pretty neat. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xd6qTNvWsKg
:rofl: this doesn't look right at all.


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: fr4nkthetank on November 24, 2020, 01:24:16 AM
shows 384watts too


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: Pe_Da on November 25, 2020, 09:24:06 AM
My Results with my RX 6800 but not really optimized yet from my side:

https://s12.directupload.net/images/201125/5z5b2rwn.png

Ethereum      ~62MH/s
Kawpow        ~32MH/s
BeamHashIII  ~36MH/s
ZHash           ~90H/s
BFC              ~160H/s

Only 4 miner (Nanominer, lolminer, PhoenixMiner and at some algorithm GMiner too) support the new RX6000 cards at the moment but I guess, not really optimized to this new GPU - architecture.  

We will see!



Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: ol92 on November 25, 2020, 12:16:39 PM
My Results with my RX 6800 but not really optimized yet from my side:

https://s12.directupload.net/images/201125/5z5b2rwn.png

Ethereum      ~62MH/s
Kawpow        ~32MH/s
BeamHashIII  ~36MH/s
ZHash           ~90H/s
BFC              ~160H/s

Only 4 miner (Nanominer, lolminer, PhoenixMiner and at some algorithm GMiner too) support the new RX6000 cards at the moment but I guess, not really optimized to this new GPU - architecture.  

We will see!


Hello,
Could you try conflux (CFX) with nanominer please ?


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: Pe_Da on November 25, 2020, 06:36:56 PM
My Results with my RX 6800 but not really optimized yet from my side:

https://s12.directupload.net/images/201125/5z5b2rwn.png

Ethereum      ~62MH/s
Kawpow        ~32MH/s
BeamHashIII  ~36MH/s
ZHash           ~90H/s
BFC              ~160H/s

Only 4 miner (Nanominer, lolminer, PhoenixMiner and at some algorithm GMiner too) support the new RX6000 cards at the moment but I guess, not really optimized to this new GPU - architecture.  

We will see!


Hello,
Could you try conflux (CFX) with nanominer please ?
Unfortunately, not implemented yet!
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2020-11-25 19:34:58: <info>                                    _                 
2020-11-25 19:34:58: <info>  _ __   __ _ _ __   ___  _ __ ___ (_)_ __   ___ _ __
2020-11-25 19:34:58: <info> | '_ \ / _` | '_ \ / _ \| '_ ` _ \| | '_ \ / _ \ '__|
2020-11-25 19:34:58: <info> | | | | (_| | | | | (_) | | | | | | | | | |  __/ |   
2020-11-25 19:34:58: <info> |_| |_|\__,_|_| |_|\___/|_| |_| |_|_|_| |_|\___|_|   
2020-11-25 19:34:58: <info>
2020-11-25 19:34:58: <info> Version 3.1.1
2020-11-25 19:34:58: <info>  Started EthMan server on port 3333 without a password (read-only mode).
2020-11-25 19:34:58: <info>  Started web interface on port 9090 without a password.
2020-11-25 19:34:58: <info> Single device detected
2020-11-25 19:34:58: <info> GPU 0 PCI 2b:00.0, Platform: OpenCL, Name: AMD Radeon RX 6800 (gfx1030), 16368 MB available
2020-11-25 19:34:58: <info> ------------------Octopus:------------------
2020-11-25 19:34:58: <info> Currency: Conflux
2020-11-25 19:34:58: <info> Wallet: 0x1bebf6e224586a4ce22e50faee656176ad155bb9
2020-11-25 19:34:58: <info> Rig name: speed_test
2020-11-25 19:34:58: <info> Email was not set.
2020-11-25 19:34:58: <info> Hashrate threshold to restart miner is not set
2020-11-25 19:34:58: <info> Added pool: cfx-eu1.nanopool.org:17433
2020-11-25 19:34:58: <info> Added pool: cfx-eu2.nanopool.org:17433
2020-11-25 19:34:58: <info> Added pool: cfx-us-east1.nanopool.org:17433
2020-11-25 19:34:58: <info> Added pool: cfx-us-west1.nanopool.org:17433
2020-11-25 19:34:58: <info> Added pool: cfx-asia1.nanopool.org:17433
2020-11-25 19:34:58: <info> Added pool: cfx-jp1.nanopool.org:17433
2020-11-25 19:34:58: <info> Added pool: cfx-au1.nanopool.org:17433
2020-11-25 19:34:58: <info> Auto pool sorting is enabled
2020-11-25 19:34:58: <info> Using all GPU devices
2020-11-25 19:34:58: <info> -------------Common parameters:-------------
2020-11-25 19:34:58: <info> Log path: ./logs/
2020-11-25 19:34:58: <info> Log is written to file
2020-11-25 19:34:58: <info> GPU watchdog is enabled
2020-11-25 19:34:58: <info> Never calling reboot.bat (always restarting the miner in case of errors).
2020-11-25 19:34:58: <info>  Setting up algorithm: Octopus
2020-11-25 19:34:59: <error>  Algorithm Octopus is not implemented for device #0


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: Cryptomining2003 on November 25, 2020, 09:38:14 PM
can you confirm that all cu 's were used for mining?


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: Pe_Da on November 27, 2020, 07:34:15 AM
can you confirm that all cu 's were used for mining?
I don´t know how.

Just for information, after several hours of run with Nanominer at Nicehash, i saw this:

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2020-11-26 19:44:38: <info>                                    _                 
2020-11-26 19:44:38: <info>  _ __   __ _ _ __   ___  _ __ ___ (_)_ __   ___ _ __
2020-11-26 19:44:38: <info> | '_ \ / _` | '_ \ / _ \| '_ ` _ \| | '_ \ / _ \ '__|
2020-11-26 19:44:38: <info> | | | | (_| | | | | (_) | | | | | | | | | |  __/ |   
2020-11-26 19:44:38: <info> |_| |_|\__,_|_| |_|\___/|_| |_| |_|_|_| |_|\___|_|   
2020-11-26 19:44:38: <info>
2020-11-26 19:44:38: <info> Version 3.1.1-cuda11
2020-11-26 19:44:38: <info>  Started EthMan server on port 4029 without a password.
2020-11-26 19:44:38: <info>  Started web interface on port 9090 without a password.
2020-11-26 19:44:40: <info> Single device detected
2020-11-26 19:44:40: <info> GPU 0 PCI 2b:00.0, Platform: OpenCL, Name: AMD Radeon RX 6800 (gfx1030), 16368 MB available
2020-11-26 19:44:40: <info> -------------------Ethash:------------------
2020-11-26 19:44:40: <info> Currency: Ethereum
2020-11-26 19:44:40: <info> Wallet: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
2020-11-26 19:44:40: <info> Rig name: GPU
2020-11-26 19:44:40: <info> Email was not set.
2020-11-26 19:44:40: <info> Hashrate threshold to restart miner is not set
2020-11-26 19:44:40: <info> Added pool: daggerhashimoto.eu.nicehash.com:3353
2020-11-26 19:44:40: <info> Auto pool sorting is disabled
2020-11-26 19:44:40: <info> Using all GPU devices
2020-11-26 19:44:40: <info> Memory tweak: 1
2020-11-26 20:51:25: <info>  New job from daggerhashimoto.eu.nicehash.com:3353
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2020-11-26 20:51:25: <info>  New job from daggerhashimoto.eu.nicehash.com:3353
2020-11-26 20:51:25: [Statistics] Ethereum - Total speed: 62.840 MH/s, Total shares: 131 Rejected: 2, Time: 01:06:44
2020-11-26 20:51:25: [Statistics] Ethereum last 10 min - Total: 62.841 MH/s.
2020-11-26 20:51:28: <info>  New job from daggerhashimoto.eu.nicehash.com:3353
2020-11-26 20:51:28: [Statistics] Ethereum - Total speed: 62.841 MH/s, Total shares: 131 Rejected: 2, Time: 01:06:47
2020-11-26 20:51:30: <info>  New job from daggerhashimoto.eu.nicehash.com:3353
2020-11-26 20:51:30: [Statistics] Ethereum - Total speed: 62.847 MH/s, Total shares: 131 Rejected: 2, Time: 01:06:49
2020-11-26 20:51:32: <info>  New job from daggerhashimoto.eu.nicehash.com:3353
2020-11-26 20:51:32: [Statistics] Ethereum - Total speed: 62.844 MH/s, Total shares: 131 Rejected: 2, Time: 01:06:52
2020-11-26 20:51:33: <info>  New job from daggerhashimoto.eu.nicehash.com:3353
2020-11-26 20:51:33: [Statistics] Ethereum - Total speed: 62.845 MH/s, Total shares: 131 Rejected: 2, Time: 01:06:52
2020-11-26 20:51:33: [Statistics] Ethereum last 10 min - Total: 62.841 MH/s.
2020-11-26 20:51:33: <info>  New job from daggerhashimoto.eu.nicehash.com:3353
2020-11-26 20:51:33: [Statistics] Ethereum - Total speed: 62.845 MH/s, Total shares: 131 Rejected: 2, Time: 01:06:52
2020-11-26 20:51:33: <info>  New job from daggerhashimoto.eu.nicehash.com:3353
2020-11-26 20:51:33: [Statistics] Ethereum - Total speed: 62.843 MH/s, Total shares: 131 Rejected: 2, Time: 01:06:53
2020-11-26 20:51:35: <info>  New job from daggerhashimoto.eu.nicehash.com:3353
2020-11-26 20:51:35: [Statistics] Ethereum - Total speed: 62.841 MH/s, Total shares: 131 Rejected: 2, Time: 01:06:54
2020-11-26 20:51:38: <info>  New job from daggerhashimoto.eu.nicehash.com:3353
2020-11-26 20:51:38: [Statistics] Ethereum - Total speed: 62.842 MH/s, Total shares: 131 Rejected: 2, Time: 01:06:57
2020-11-26 20:51:38: [Statistics] Ethereum last 10 min - Total: 62.840 MH/s.
2020-11-26 20:51:41: <info>  New job from daggerhashimoto.eu.nicehash.com:3353
2020-11-26 20:51:41: [Statistics] Ethereum - Total speed: 62.841 MH/s, Total shares: 131 Rejected: 2, Time: 01:07:00
2020-11-26 20:51:44: <info>  New job from daggerhashimoto.eu.nicehash.com:3353
2020-11-26 20:51:44: [Statistics] Ethereum - Total speed: 62.840 MH/s, Total shares: 131 Rejected: 2, Time: 01:07:03
2020-11-26 20:51:47: <info>  New job from daggerhashimoto.eu.nicehash.com:3353
2020-11-26 20:51:47: [Statistics] Ethereum - Total speed: 62.841 MH/s, Total shares: 131 Rejected: 2, Time: 01:07:06
2020-11-26 20:51:50: <info>  New job from daggerhashimoto.eu.nicehash.com:3353
2020-11-26 20:51:50: [Statistics] Ethereum - Total speed: 62.841 MH/s, Total shares: 131 Rejected: 2, Time: 01:07:09
2020-11-26 20:51:50: [Statistics] Ethereum last 10 min - Total: 62.840 MH/s.
2020-11-26 20:51:53: <info>  New job from daggerhashimoto.eu.nicehash.com:3353
2020-11-26 20:51:53: [Statistics] Ethereum - Total speed: 62.841 MH/s, Total shares: 131 Rejected: 2, Time: 01:07:12
2020-11-26 20:51:53: <info>  Ethereum - SHARE FOUND (GPU: 0, nonce: 0x5b5149587168bb2f).
2020-11-26 20:51:53: <info> Ethereum: share accepted (42 ms)!
2020-11-26 20:51:56: <info>  New job from daggerhashimoto.eu.nicehash.com:3353
2020-11-26 20:51:56: [Statistics] Ethereum - Total speed: 62.838 MH/s, Total shares: 132 Rejected: 2, Time: 01:07:15
2020-11-26 20:51:59: <info>  New job from daggerhashimoto.eu.nicehash.com:3353
2020-11-26 20:51:59: [Statistics] Ethereum - Total speed: 62.839 MH/s, Total shares: 132 Rejected: 2, Time: 01:07:18
2020-11-26 20:52:00: <info>  New job from daggerhashimoto.eu.nicehash.com:3353
2020-11-26 20:52:00: [Statistics] Ethereum - Total speed: 62.838 MH/s, Total shares: 132 Rejected: 2, Time: 01:07:20
2020-11-26 20:52:00: [Statistics] Ethereum last 10 min - Total: 62.840 MH/s.
2020-11-26 20:52:01: <info>  New job from daggerhashimoto.eu.nicehash.com:3353
2020-11-26 20:52:01: [Statistics] Ethereum - Total speed: 62.838 MH/s, Total shares: 132 Rejected: 2, Time: 01:07:20
2020-11-26 20:52:02: <info>  New job from daggerhashimoto.eu.nicehash.com:3353
2020-11-26 20:52:02: [Statistics] Ethereum - Total speed: 62.839 MH/s, Total shares: 132 Rejected: 2, Time: 01:07:22
2020-11-26 20:52:05: <info>  New job from daggerhashimoto.eu.nicehash.com:3353
2020-11-26 20:52:05: [Statistics] Ethereum - Total speed: 62.839 MH/s, Total shares: 132 Rejected: 2, Time: 01:07:25
2020-11-26 20:52:08: <info>  New job from daggerhashimoto.eu.nicehash.com:3353
2020-11-26 20:52:08: [Statistics] Ethereum - Total speed: 62.839 MH/s, Total shares: 132 Rejected: 2, Time: 01:07:28
2020-11-26 20:52:08: [Statistics] Ethereum last 10 min - Total: 62.840 MH/s.
2020-11-26 20:52:11: <info>  New job from daggerhashimoto.eu.nicehash.com:3353
2020-11-26 20:52:11: [Statistics] Ethereum - Total speed: 62.839 MH/s, Total shares: 132 Rejected: 2, Time: 01:07:31
2020-11-26 20:52:13: <info>  New job from daggerhashimoto.eu.nicehash.com:3353
2020-11-26 20:52:13: [Statistics] Ethereum - Total speed: 62.841 MH/s, Total shares: 132 Rejected: 2, Time: 01:07:33
2020-11-26 20:52:15: <info>  New job from daggerhashimoto.eu.nicehash.com:3353
2020-11-26 20:52:15: [Statistics] Ethereum - Total speed: 62.839 MH/s, Total shares: 132 Rejected: 2, Time: 01:07:34
2020-11-26 20:52:16: <info>  New job from daggerhashimoto.eu.nicehash.com:3353
2020-11-26 20:52:16: [Statistics] Ethereum - Total speed: 62.840 MH/s, Total shares: 132 Rejected: 2, Time: 01:07:36
2020-11-26 20:52:16: [Statistics] Ethereum last 10 min - Total: 62.840 MH/s.
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2020-11-26 21:36:42: <info>  New job from daggerhashimoto.eu.nicehash.com:3353 | share difficulty = 1933 MH, epoch 0 (1023 MB)
2020-11-26 21:36:42: [Statistics] Ethereum - Total speed: 62.836 MH/s, Total shares: 215 Rejected: 5, Time: 01:52:01
2020-11-26 21:36:43: <info>  GPU0: 1023 MB DAG generated in 0.30 seconds
2020-11-26 21:36:47: <info>  New job from daggerhashimoto.eu.nicehash.com:3353
2020-11-26 21:36:47: [Statistics] Ethereum - Total speed: 63.666 MH/s, Total shares: 215 Rejected: 5, Time: 01:52:07
2020-11-26 21:37:19: [Statistics] Ethereum - Total speed: 68.083 MH/s, Total shares: 215 Rejected: 5, Time: 01:52:38
2020-11-26 21:37:19: [Statistics] Ethereum last 10 min - Total: 62.999 MH/s.
2020-11-26 21:37:38: <info>  New job from daggerhashimoto.eu.nicehash.com:3353
2020-11-26 21:37:38: [Statistics] Ethereum - Total speed: 68.798 MH/s, Total shares: 215 Rejected: 5, Time: 01:52:58
2020-11-26 21:37:39: <info>  Ethereum - SHARE FOUND (GPU: 0, nonce: 0xb613c268e6574c8d).
2020-11-26 21:37:39: <info> Ethereum: share accepted (43 ms)!
2020-11-26 21:37:40: <info>  New job from daggerhashimoto.eu.nicehash.com:3353
2020-11-26 21:37:40: [Statistics] Ethereum - Total speed: 68.822 MH/s, Total shares: 216 Rejected: 5, Time: 01:52:59
2020-11-26 21:37:42: <info>  New job from daggerhashimoto.eu.nicehash.com:3353
2020-11-26 21:37:42: [Statistics] Ethereum - Total speed: 68.867 MH/s, Total shares: 216 Rejected: 5, Time: 01:53:02
2020-11-26 21:37:43: <info>  Ethereum - SHARE FOUND (GPU: 0, nonce: 0xb613c2f5f5f850a1).
2020-11-26 21:37:43: <info> Ethereum: share accepted (92 ms)!
2020-11-26 21:37:44: <info>  New job from daggerhashimoto.eu.nicehash.com:3353
2020-11-26 21:37:44: [Statistics] Ethereum - Total speed: 68.894 MH/s, Total shares: 217 Rejected: 5, Time: 01:53:04
2020-11-26 21:37:44: [Statistics] Ethereum last 10 min - Total: 63.244 MH/s.
2020-11-26 21:37:46: <info>  New job from daggerhashimoto.eu.nicehash.com:3353
2020-11-26 21:37:46: [Statistics] Ethereum - Total speed: 68.916 MH/s, Total shares: 217 Rejected: 5, Time: 01:53:05
2020-11-26 21:37:48: <info>  New job from daggerhashimoto.eu.nicehash.com:3353
2020-11-26 21:37:48: [Statistics] Ethereum - Total speed: 68.944 MH/s, Total shares: 217 Rejected: 5, Time: 01:53:08
2020-11-26 21:37:50: <info>  New job from daggerhashimoto.eu.nicehash.com:3353
2020-11-26 21:37:50: [Statistics] Ethereum - Total speed: 68.971 MH/s, Total shares: 217 Rejected: 5, Time: 01:53:10
2020-11-26 21:37:52: <info>  New job from daggerhashimoto.eu.nicehash.com:3353
2020-11-26 21:37:52: [Statistics] Ethereum - Total speed: 68.994 MH/s, Total shares: 217 Rejected: 5, Time: 01:53:12
2020-11-26 21:37:52: [Statistics] Ethereum last 10 min - Total: 63.324 MH/s.
2020-11-26 21:37:54: <info>  New job from daggerhashimoto.eu.nicehash.com:3353
2020-11-26 21:37:54: [Statistics] Ethereum - Total speed: 69.015 MH/s, Total shares: 217 Rejected: 5, Time: 01:53:14


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: Cryptomining2003 on November 27, 2020, 08:20:14 AM
I think the miner shows at the beginning.
Must be a line called:

"XX CU´s are used for mining"

must be shown at phoenixminer I think.

did I read right? 384 watts? for 80 mhash (with SMA) ? thats way more than a 3080 needs to get 80 mhash :( poor amd :(


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: Pe_Da on November 27, 2020, 10:58:37 AM
I think the miner shows at the beginning.
Must be a line called:

"XX CU´s are used for mining"

must be shown at phoenixminer I think.

did I read right? 384 watts? for 80 mhash (with SMA) ? thats way more than a 3080 needs to get 80 mhash :( poor amd :(

unfortunately no.

The optimized Chip Power Draw is 130W at 63MH/s Ethash. The entire card consumes estimated 150W. 
Kawpow is more hungry, optimized ca. 220W at 33MH/s ....


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: Pe_Da on November 27, 2020, 03:27:11 PM
So another test later,

Ethash different epoch tests and yes, I was right.  ;D

Code:
ETC Mining - PhoenixMiner 5.2e
Epoch 0 DAG Size 904MB        --> 71MH/s
Epoch 100 DAG Size            --> 65MH/s
Epoch 192 DAG Size            --> 64MH/s
Epoch 378 DAG Size            --> 63MH/s


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: Metroid on November 27, 2020, 03:57:10 PM
So another test later,

Ethash different epoch tests and yes, I was right.  ;D

Code:
ETC Mining - PhoenixMiner 5.2e
Epoch 0 DAG Size 904MB        --> 71MH/s
Epoch 100 DAG Size            --> 65MH/s
Epoch 192 DAG Size            --> 64MH/s
Epoch 378 DAG Size            --> 63MH/s

So the dag impacts performance of it even if is very low, I wonder about the 3080.


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: cidman on November 27, 2020, 10:55:39 PM
has anyone tried running lower workload settings and multiple instances?
i am wondering if its only utilizing what its saying
plus the lower workloads and higher thread count might work better with the cache arch


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: alumar on December 02, 2020, 05:39:18 AM
Here is the 12v Rail and Riser power details on ETH quick test and no, I can not consistently get the two instances to be recreated. The next time I do I will try and go #live and folks/miner developers can try to capture everything I can snip to see how we can reproduce more regularly.

https://youtu.be/hMDHQBNyVNs


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: Cryptomining2003 on December 02, 2020, 01:07:01 PM
2 instances only works with amd 5000 series cpu ;)


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: Metroid on December 03, 2020, 11:18:57 AM
It seems the 6800 and the 6800 xt got where I live and prices are $950 and $1050, insane, poor gamers hehe, only people with more money than sense will buy it. This card is not even good for mining and yet, 2x msrp price, this is worse than it was at the end of 2017.


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: Marvell2 on December 03, 2020, 05:22:40 PM
2 instances only works with amd 5000 series cpu ;)

so you can only get the full use out of this card with 5000 series? how about 3900x

and do you have proof


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: hellscreamer on December 03, 2020, 05:34:47 PM
2 instances only works with amd 5000 series cpu ;)

so you can only get the full use out of this card with 5000 series? how about 3900x

and do you have proof

check out other pages or Bitsbetrippin

It burns +300w anyway


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: Pe_Da on December 03, 2020, 09:50:00 PM
WTF, Nanominer recognize always 2 cards instead of 1   ???
I have a Ryzen 3800X on a B450 chipset ....

Unfortunately the speed is the same respectively slower as with one card.
Driver is the newest , 20.11.3 !

What is going on here?

https://s2.imagebanana.com/file/201203/thb/6a7fcUCS.JPG (https://www.imagebanana.com/s/1958/6a7fcUCS.html)

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2020-12-03 22:46:39: <info>                                    _                
2020-12-03 22:46:39: <info>  _ __   __ _ _ __   ___  _ __ ___ (_)_ __   ___ _ __
2020-12-03 22:46:39: <info> | '_ \ / _` | '_ \ / _ \| '_ ` _ \| | '_ \ / _ \ '__|
2020-12-03 22:46:39: <info> | | | | (_| | | | | (_) | | | | | | | | | |  __/ |  
2020-12-03 22:46:39: <info> |_| |_|\__,_|_| |_|\___/|_| |_| |_|_|_| |_|\___|_|  
2020-12-03 22:46:39: <info>
2020-12-03 22:46:39: <info> Version 3.1.2-cuda11
2020-12-03 22:46:39: <info>  Started EthMan server on port 4029 without a password.
2020-12-03 22:46:39: <info>  Started web interface on port 9090 without a password.
2020-12-03 22:46:39: <warning>  Some distinct AMD GPUs report same PCI address. GPU temperature, fan and power usage will not work correctly. Please consider updating the driver.
2020-12-03 22:46:39: <info> Detected 2 devices
2020-12-03 22:46:39: <info> GPU 0 PCI 2b:00.0, Platform: OpenCL, Name: AMD Radeon RX 6800 (gfx1030), 16368 MB available
2020-12-03 22:46:39: <info> GPU 1 PCI 2b:00.0, Platform: OpenCL, Name: AMD Radeon RX 6800 (gfx1030), 16368 MB available

2020-12-03 22:46:39: <info> -------------------Ethash:------------------
2020-12-03 22:46:39: <info> Currency: Ethereum
2020-12-03 22:46:39: <info> Wallet: 0xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
2020-12-03 22:46:39: <info> Rig name: GPU
2020-12-03 22:46:39: <info> Email was not set.
2020-12-03 22:46:39: <info> Hashrate threshold to restart miner is not set
2020-12-03 22:46:39: <info> Added pool: eu1.ethermine.org:4444
2020-12-03 22:46:39: <info> Auto pool sorting is disabled
2020-12-03 22:46:39: <info> Using all GPU devices
2020-12-03 22:46:39: <info> Memory tweak: 1,1
2020-12-03 22:46:39: <info> -------------Common parameters:-------------
2020-12-03 22:46:39: <info> Log path: ./logs/
2020-12-03 22:46:39: <info> Log is written to file
2020-12-03 22:46:39: <info> GPU watchdog is disabled
2020-12-03 22:46:39: <info> Never calling reboot.bat (always restarting the miner in case of errors).
2020-12-03 22:46:39: <info>  Setting up algorithm: Ethash
2020-12-03 22:46:41: <warning>  Wallet for Ethereum must be 42 characters long.
2020-12-03 22:46:41: <info>  Connecting to pools...
2020-12-03 22:46:41: <info>  Connected to pool: eu1.ethermine.org:4444 | IP: 172.65.207.106
2020-12-03 22:46:41: <info>  New job from eu1.ethermine.org:4444 | share difficulty = 4000 MH, epoch 379 (4055 MB)
2020-12-03 22:46:41: [Statistics] Ethereum - Total speed: 0.000 H/s, Total shares: 0 Rejected: 0, Time: 00:01
2020-12-03 22:46:41: [Statistics] Ethereum: GPU 0 0.000 H/s, GPU 1 0.000 H/s
2020-12-03 22:46:41: [Statistics] ,
2020-12-03 22:46:42: <info>  New job from eu1.ethermine.org:4444
2020-12-03 22:46:42: [Statistics] Ethereum - Total speed: 0.000 H/s, Total shares: 0 Rejected: 0, Time: 00:02
2020-12-03 22:46:42: [Statistics] Ethereum: GPU 0 0.000 H/s, GPU 1 0.000 H/s
2020-12-03 22:46:42: [Statistics] Ethereum last 10 min - GPU 0: 0.000 H/s, GPU 1: 0.000 H/s. Total: 0.000 H/s.
2020-12-03 22:46:46: <info>  New job from eu1.ethermine.org:4444

Uhh, Nanominer too!

Looks like a bug!


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: JTGTS on December 04, 2020, 10:58:03 PM
I bought today gigabyte gaming 6800 not reference one and it does 60 mhs on eth out of the box 170w, minor tweeks 65 with 130w on phoenix miner 5.3b .

On load it says that  it only uses 30 cu but sometimes card says eff speed and pool speed 100-130mhs constantly.Very cool card 59c on 30% fan (3 slots) monster  ;D
I hope ill get soon ryzen 5600x just to try out what beets be trippin has already done, split in 2 to get use of all 60 cu.

This card has great potencial i hope im right


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: Pe_Da on December 05, 2020, 06:47:55 PM
So guys, Conflux Mining works from now with NBMiner 34.4!

settings maxed out on my RX6800 and results in 37,13 Mhs with an consumption of >200W!


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: karim_hassan777 on December 08, 2020, 06:02:54 PM
any news guys


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: hellscreamer on December 08, 2020, 06:13:49 PM
https://www.youtube.com/user/BitsBeTrippin

6900 XT hashrate soon


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: ZeeeN on December 08, 2020, 08:15:47 PM
https://www.youtube.com/user/BitsBeTrippin

6900 XT hashrate soon

around 60-65MH?


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: alikait on December 08, 2020, 08:44:30 PM
https://www.youtube.com/user/BitsBeTrippin

6900 XT hashrate soon

around 60-65MH?

87.7!!


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: heavyarms1912 on December 09, 2020, 04:06:11 AM
https://www.youtube.com/user/BitsBeTrippin

6900 XT hashrate soon

around 60-65MH?

won't be any different than a 6800 or 6800 XT.


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: geck on December 11, 2020, 11:54:01 PM
Just got an rx 6800.

Can't get mem to go past 2150MHz. I don't think it is the memory temps (can't be sure) and might just be silicone lottery as it is perfectly stable at 2148.
Used more powertools to lower core voltage to 700mV. Will try and lower the voltage more tomorrow.

So far it is getting 62MH (lolminer 1.16)@ 145W at the wall. Software is reading 112W.

Although morepowertools can unlock the vram speed, the moment it is set to above 2150, core clock will get locked at 500mhz.
Igorslab managed to overclock his to 2200 so maybe 6800 has a memory speed lock in bios.


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: dedizones on December 26, 2020, 11:33:29 PM
Just got an rx 6800.

Can't get mem to go past 2150MHz. I don't think it is the memory temps (can't be sure) and might just be silicone lottery as it is perfectly stable at 2148.
Used more powertools to lower core voltage to 700mV. Will try and lower the voltage more tomorrow.

So far it is getting 62MH (lolminer 1.16)@ 145W at the wall. Software is reading 112W.

Although morepowertools can unlock the vram speed, the moment it is set to above 2150, core clock will get locked at 500mhz.
Igorslab managed to overclock his to 2200 so maybe 6800 has a memory speed lock in bios.


Since Christmas is over at your place, people with 6800, 6800xt, 6900xt ?


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: Metroid on December 26, 2020, 11:37:38 PM
Usually amd gpus need much less core speed to achieve what nvidia achieves, reason you can undervolt a lot more than nvidia gpus.


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: rednoW on December 27, 2020, 05:25:51 AM
Usually amd gpus need much less core speed to achieve what nvidia achieves, reason you can undervolt a lot more than nvidia gpus.
modern nvidia 3060ti and 3070 need only 800-900 mhz gpu clock to hash 60-64mhs. Difficult to beat ))


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: fmz89 on December 27, 2020, 06:04:48 AM
Usually amd gpus need much less core speed to achieve what nvidia achieves, reason you can undervolt a lot more than nvidia gpus.
modern nvidia 3060ti and 3070 need only 800-900 mhz gpu clock to hash 60-64mhs. Difficult to beat ))
dang amd mining card is dead or no miner can utilize amd infinite cache, like vega as first came out ppl confused with vega compute mode

and newer driver fix it, just wait for couple months, i wont try either amd new amd card, i will grab some rtx for gaming purpose only,

and curious how these gpu can mine other algo


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: dedizones on December 27, 2020, 10:57:16 AM
Usually amd gpus need much less core speed to achieve what nvidia achieves, reason you can undervolt a lot more than nvidia gpus.
modern nvidia 3060ti and 3070 need only 800-900 mhz gpu clock to hash 60-64mhs. Difficult to beat ))
dang amd mining card is dead or no miner can utilize amd infinite cache, like vega as first came out ppl confused with vega compute mode

and newer driver fix it, just wait for couple months, i wont try either amd new amd card, i will grab some rtx for gaming purpose only,

and curious how these gpu can mine other algo

so better take NVIDIA 3060/3070/3080 / single or "TI" model? and say goodbye to the 6xxx AMD?


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: Metroid on December 27, 2020, 11:00:30 AM
Usually amd gpus need much less core speed to achieve what nvidia achieves, reason you can undervolt a lot more than nvidia gpus.
modern nvidia 3060ti and 3070 need only 800-900 mhz gpu clock to hash 60-64mhs. Difficult to beat ))

I have yet to test and determinate that. I still think the 5700 has slightly edge x 3060ti on power consumption efficiency.


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: dedizones on December 27, 2020, 11:08:25 AM
Usually amd gpus need much less core speed to achieve what nvidia achieves, reason you can undervolt a lot more than nvidia gpus.
modern nvidia 3060ti and 3070 need only 800-900 mhz gpu clock to hash 60-64mhs. Difficult to beat ))

I have yet to test and determinate that. I still think the 5700 has slightly edge x 3060ti on power consumption efficiency.

The problem is that the AMD 5xxx series are the same price as the 6xxx series


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: FP91G on December 28, 2020, 05:35:25 PM
Are there any ways to increase the hashrate on these video cards. According to reviews, the hashrate of these video cards is 60-65 mh/s, and they cost $ 300 more than the PTX 3060ti.
But these video cards are not sold in stores, or there is no choice to buy. Available in 1, maximum 2 models.


Title: Re: AMD RX 6000 GPUs will be GREAT at GPU MINING! RX 6900 XT, 6800 XT, and 6800
Post by: Metroid on December 28, 2020, 07:33:56 PM
Are there any ways to increase the hashrate on these video cards. According to reviews, the hashrate of these video cards is 60-65 mh/s, and they cost $ 300 more than the PTX 3060ti.
But these video cards are not sold in stores, or there is no choice to buy. Available in 1, maximum 2 models.

in my view, rx 6800 is a better investment than 3060ti, 16gb will do good on anything, $400 x $570, $170 for more 8gb and a lot more power on games, yes.