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After running 4 years on Bitcoin blockchain, Chain-Bet.com (https://www.Chain-Bet.com) has been re-written to run on Litecoin blockchain. It is a game that asks a simple question: What would be last digit of the block hash that includes your transaction? Players guess last digit of the block hash and bet on that. If the guess is correct, player gets back 16 times of the bet amount. As a promotional offer after our re-launch, the game is now operating at 0% House Edge.

But, since our relaunch on September 01, 2020 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1492457.msg55110609#msg55110609), we have not seen similar enthusiasm like we experienced 4 years back. This is somewhat disappointing. A provably fair game with 4 years reputation offering 0% House Edge is rare in gambling industry. Instead of burning money for advertisement, we are giving it back to our gamblers through 0% House Edge. So, what is stopping you from wagering on this game like before?

Constructive criticism is welcome. :)

There are other gambling game which has 0 house edge such as Blackjack. It is a good idea that may encourage other gamblers to play because it would somewhat give them an idea that the chances of winning is higher, but reality is not since it will still depend on one's luck if I'm not mistaken.

What would be an excuse to not engage into such game wherein there's 0% House edge? Well, I think it is the kind of game being offered. No matter what game it is, if the players are not into such kind of game, things would be the same. In my case I would still choose other gambling games such as roulette with house edge than this, not to be in contrast of the idea, but simply because that's my preference. There are just players who are more into enjoyment than huge winnings.

Your UX/UI maybe. ;D
I am not saying it is ugly but a site with a platform like yours may not be very appealing today. For some even the 0% HE it is not enough, and, sorry to say but advertising is something not to be neglected.
About the game I personally find it nice, the concept it is easy and I like the way it can be easily verified.
Consider investing some of your profit on a nicer UI. 8)

You are offering something which may be considered a better deal in gambling. But I think you ended up with a lower enthusiasm response probably because you are not promoting it well. I guess it would have gained a bigger following had it been reaching a lot of gambling fans.

I admit I have not played on your platform before. But by the sound of it, I kind of like it and wanna try wagering on it with just the minimum amount as a start. This limited 0% house edge offer does not happen all the time.

Hello
That's really good that your site is providing people with 0% house edge but at the same time I do believe people already made their point.
- you need good promotion
- good reviews , maybe something like a youtube video review by selected players well recognized here on the form.
- you can even pick up any manager and then ask them to endorse the site??
- at the same time you need to update the site 🔥 best of luck with the project.
It's all about the competition!!!
Many sites offer 0% on selected games too... You have to get involved with people here on the forum more.

While the offer you are making is good you need to understand that things are never so simple, just because you are offering a better deal than other casinos that does not mean that gamblers are going to come to your casino and gamble all what they have, many times the superior product ends up losing against an inferior product simply because the other product had a better marketing campaign or was able to establish their brand and became recognized, also when it comes to gambling many gamblers once they find a casino they like they do not want to spend the time to find another one even if this new casino is better than the one they are currently playing in.

Well for one. I have good experience in this, advertisements draws in more people, good products make them stay. But in an industry like gambling where you don't really expect patrons, I can see what you're pointing at. That being said, advertisement is still a good way to gather people into your product. If you can allocate something for a let's say, signature campaign which is a surefire way of earning new people, you can invite more gamblers into your site.

In short, there are no people is already interested into these kind of blockchain games.Yeah, they might able to get some attention wayback but honestly
speaking this isnt something that do really interest me even it does have some good payout or multiplier but waiting for a tx or a certain block hash doesnt
really poke out my interested or im not really enjoying.Even if you do offer 0% house edge and nothing new with this one then its already expected that
the results would be just the same.Dont get disappointed because not all of your plans will really work out or it will result on what you do expect for.

I've actually followed you guys for a few years now on and off. It's a shame that people aren't using your services.

I'd summarise the lack of interest into the simple fact that house edge is not the only determinant of the utility/satisfaction that a gambler gains from a game. The gambler enjoys aspects of the game itself as entertainment, and social interactions gained from chat rooms etc. and essentially pays a price for this through his negative EV.

Your game with a 0% house edge is stuck in an awkward middle ground, where it does not appeal to average consumers of games of chance since it does not offer them much utility in the form of social interaction or thrill (since objectively, your game is far less polished and interesting than established table games or dice/crash etc.); but it also does not appeal to APs the same way that full pay DW video poker/BJ does since in the long run their EV is zero and they're taking on an unnecessary risk of ruin.

I don't necessarily think that it's an advertising problem. I've seen your ads running for years and have been aware of your operations, but just have never been compelled to play it due to the reasons I listed.

EDIT: I also noticed that your bankroll is a measly 10 LTC and is crowdfunded - why would anyone want to invest in an operation with neutral EV from their perspective as the house?

0% house edge doesn't always mean that the site would become better.Yes, maybe but all varies on the game that had been offered.

Zero house edge isn't something usual that you can see because we know that this is where house do get their revenue into their gambling games that been offering

but all would be still useless if the masses will find out something not interesting on the games offered.

Well, your site is interesting, but I agree with what another user said, UX / UI is a little bit different, not that it is bad.
It would also be interesting for you to spread more, etc.
Good luck with your project

Just with the term 0% house edge it doesn't mean each and every game will have the same. Another thing I find is the game, why don't you think of something new or the games much played. Four years back your game sounds interesting, now people are in the fast phase and enjoy more other games available on different well reputed gambling casinos. It is time for you to rethink and launch new games to make people wager more.

First of all you should know that you can't exist with 0% house edge and if I were you, I would be glad that there are few or near to zero customers on website to not go bankrupt. Do you know what people want? Entertainment. Your website doesn't look attractive, it looks like the least thing where the player may want to play. You need team of developers, team of marketers, team of designers, etc. Just setting 0% house edge means nothing, some people even don't know what is the house edge, so... Your website and idea looks like when child wants to create casino from his/her knowledge and the ideas in the dream.
And, none casino can exist on 0% house edge. People have 1% and higher house edge and still cheat and imagine 0% house :D

The competition is too hight now, there are many gambling casinos that do provide better services in terms of support as well fast withdrawal that can be 0% House Edge too or somehow many players still able to earn or take profit from their casino. They might also have much more addictive games plus they might have a signature campaign here also in forum that attracts more players, advertising is still important now especially too many casino that are popular now will not let their guard down to continuously grow.

Well, it is a 0% House Edge, who would say no to that? Right? It is just that there are a lot of online casinos out there that are lying that is why you would stick to casinos which you are used to go to or visit. Another reason is just I am in the mood to play the games that they offer since there are a lot of times that I play other games as well like Poker, Dice, and sometimes betting on cockfighting.

 You need to work harder on your UI.

I don't know how you get profit but you should aim into casual gamers to maximize your profit and introducing the house edge can be what you need to get money for improving, create promotion and marketing.
Is better for you to have a deposit bonus over a 0% House Edge since you will "attack" more players but the 1st thing to do is improve your UI.

Just my 2 cents.

Maybe you mean "attract" more players. I agree with that UI complaint on the site which is totally a simple and plain which isnt bad but totally i cant really think off on how on making a
fantastic one since this one do offer blockchain type of game which not all is really that much of interested.Removing house edge does mean that they wont really be making out profit
which its totally questionable on how long they would be offering this no house edge event because speaking for long term it isnt really sustainable.Basing off with 16 characters and
calculating the odds then you do only have 6.25% chance on hitting the right one.Its just right for that 16x of the payout.

Exactly, my first thoughts when I saw this. It is the epitome of too good to be true. I know that the developers behind does not have ill-intent but make it so known to people and let them do the advertising because if you were the creators to say that your system is safe then eyebrows will be raised. In my opinion, you should get yourself some house edge to fund your advertisement campaign because let the people know about you, there is a reason why Coca-Cola is still advertising till this day you know, they want to stay on air and stay relevant, you should know that.

It's quite a boring site, and additionally, I don't find such games quite entertaining tbh. I don't look at the game based on its house edge, after all, I gamble to entertain myself, not to make myself rich. Add that to the platform UI, which is simple, yes, but it's too simplistic, to the point that there's close to nothing in it. The first thing to do? Make a black theme, my personal preference tbh, but from what I can see, most people enjoy darker themes.

Well, it is quite apparent that their team is quite active and supportive of opinions, appreciate that, however, you guys aren't the only ones that are doing so. Got to step up the game if you guys actually want to compete with other casinos. I myself don't really enjoy such games, but heck, who knows about others right?

I have to agree that the site design isn't the most attractive. It looks very outdated. There might not be a house edge but the odds of guessing the right outcome is 1 out of 16. Those are not great odds. The max bet amount is only 0.01 LTC so you're not really going to attract any high rollers. Some people might find this game fun but it is not the immersive experience you get when playing traditional casino games.

This topic is also a form of advertisement and it's free. I never knew about your platform until this thread so you may want to consider continous engagement with the community by creating good topics to discuss. It's something that Bitcasino has done and continue to do so.

Between choosing high or low and guessing from numbers and letters, which one do you think players would choose? It's not just the house edge.

You may also consider the fact that some gamblers don't bet on altcoins.

I don't know about other people, but I don't play on that site. Your game is purely based on luck, and the game itself is not too attractive as the other gambling game such as dice, lottery, poker, or other gambling game. But I think that your site already has its fan because if you can see that some gamblers are still playing on your site, they still like to stay on the site and play on that game. It is not easy to attract people to visit your site, which will be up to them to visit. But you can use the promotion to invite more people to test their luck by playing that game.

The game you offer on your website, the website itself is pretty plain. Unlike other online casinos, they offer various games. I also agree with other comments here your site lacks promotion, some casinos started having their signature campaign to be able to promote which worked.

Since you are newbies to the gambling business you ought to make research about the games that online gamblers enjoy these days and integrate them in your project, not you giving the community the 4 years back experience which I think will be somehow outdated by most gamblers. However, the scam activities happening in the crypto sphere will make it hard for every gambler totally trust the 0% house edge you offer until you public proof your honesty.

If I remember I already visited the website before I think there's also a version of it but in Bitcoin if I remember it correctly. Have anyone tried it already? I was curious does anyone already place bets here? I think OP if you are the owner you should make some promotions to attract players on your website.

The game is actually easy to understand and easy to play. Still, I think those who are enthusiastic about playing 4 years ago are probably playing in your Bitcoin blockchain and not interested in the LTC blockchain. 0% house edge is an attraction for sure, but not everyone gets to see it.

Personally, I'm an occasional gambler, and I haven't seen your website relaunch or anything related to it because I don't explore too much in the ANN sections, etc. I guess that's one of the reasons why I haven't seen anything about it because there's no advertising involved. Advertising is part of the process of getting known in the world, and you wouldn't be known if you won't advertise it. The right people do not see it, and I think you should work on that.

Scam activities let gamblers to stay where they already entrust their money, it's quite difficult to attract gamblers to visit and play inside your platform not even you are offering total 0 house edge, reputation and is very important to each gamblers. Even they're  implementing house edge gambler choose to stay and continue playing.

If you wanted to bring participant, you need being competitive. Advertisement and more good offers not just to highlight your 0 house edge feature, no longer impacting. If you want to succeed you need to adjust and work with what gamblers want they are the very reason why you open the business, pleasing them will allow you to survive and succeed.

people making money with ads would highly disagree that marketing is the same as "burning money"

tbh I look to have an edge to myself when putting money somewhere OR to use the money to make something that is good not only for me but also for other people.
taking this into account it makes not such a big difference if the house has an edge or not...

I don't try to play that game. I am only curious about the site. I think he needs to promote his site again because I am not sure if people still remember the site after some time. Even if he is running 4 years on the blockchain, as he said, he needs to introduce to people what is different than before. If he succeeds in introducing his site, the site will get more people to play on that game, and of course, the money will flow on that site.

It's a 0% house edge? does it mean your website won't earn anything? Actually it's my first time hearing the website and I'm a little bit interested to play with it they have pretty low bankroll at the moment so I assume it's safe to place bet with lower amount.

Thanks for calculation. With such a small chance of winning, people will choose more beautiful and fun games on other gambling websites. For me slots or plinko is more funny than guessing four numbers and monitoring litecoin blockchain explorer.

they offer zero percent house edge but they dont want to spend money for advertisement and they ask if why they fail and why theres less people get interested on that amazing offer , thats because less people only see and know about them . thats the power of advertisement and they are under estimating it because they are confident enough on their reputation and thier offer . older sites here like 777coin and bitvest didnt drop thier advertisement in the forum and take note these both sites are already well known and also have many good offers .

Honestly, I am not aware of it, I don't know if it is just me and some of the other few people here, the project lack promotion, they should launch continuous promotion and they should enhance the 0% house edge which is their main feature, this is a game that worth trying but your chances her is still 505 as it is still based on luck.

Even though it is 0% House Edge but still, such a bet is not easy for us to win. Besides, the lack of interest in your platform I think the obvious problem is the lack of promotion. The interest of gamblers here is constantly increasing I think or at least not decreasing, so if you assume about avoidance maybe it's wrong because if they are aware of your platform with the simple games offered but also accompanied by promotions, the enthusiasm will continue.

If it is a 0 percent house edge I am not attracted to such site.This is even more true when prediction is needed and this makes it more like a lottery which our odds are extremely low.These kind of sites will never reach the audience a normal casino has because they choose this lottery kinda type of bet which the majority of the gamblers don’t like.

 In my case house edge will not matter as long as the players love your service to them and if you cannot see more players that are playing in your platform then there is a big chance that they didn't like your service at all or they don't like your games.

It is only my opinion but I am sure also that there are players out there who are looking for a very low house edge to play. I think it will be better if you will focus on marketing also even if you are thinking that it is only burning your money because marketing is the most easiest way to find some players to play in your platform if you can execute it correctly.

If this is truly your first time to hear 0% house edge then you are not very active in the gambling section and it never safe to bet on a site with a low bankroll. However, must gambling site that offers the 0% house edge mostly does that to promote their products especially native token/coin.

Definitely cause the quote everything which "seems too good to be true" is possibly scam is what every crypto/gambling enthusiast used these days to keep them safe from scammer so OP needs to make the community believe the whole concept is genuine cause we have seen a lot of genuine sites compromised while the hacker uses it to steal from people.
Second, you need to implement new games with instant withdraw which are what gamblers of these days wish for.

 

I honestly think a casino or betting site always has an advantage. 0% is actually not possible.
In sports competitions where it is 50/50, you will never see values ​​of 50% but rather a odds of around 1.95 (in the most favorable case). 50/50 would imply to 2.00

First, their site is not that attractive. Though it is simple and straightforward, but it will not attract some players' attention.
And even if it is offering 0% house edge, the odds of winning is very low.
That's why it is not appealing to players. They may have good intentions here. But the game itself is not fascinating.

If you remember the cheap UI/UX and templates and not an attractive site which is one of the thing gamblers look before playing are what exit scam gambling site and ICO used then which is the reason why i once said the site activities are outdated which is also among what make it a no go area for gambler.
OP, the third option improve the site.

Even though they'll be creating lots of promotions, that doesn't guarantee to be effective because competition is raging against several online gambling site. Reality will always remind us to win the race against the rival business, so on this type of digital world there must be ways to become popular. That could be trial and error, and if signature campaign would be effective on this situations in order to become successful; I do believe potential profits will follow.

The only hassle thing i do saw for this kind of game is that you do always make some deposit before you would able to know the result which not all will really be that interested on doing
that activity from time to time also the odds arent really that high for someone to be interested on.

Marketing does really play a big role but doesnt mean that it will be anytime to be a success.It all matters on what the kind of game had been offered.

There were lots of blockchain games that we had in the past and they didnt really get that much interest from people and rather they do decide to
go with dice and slot games instead. Results are on point and you wont need to wait up or something or making deposit everynow and then.

Big online gaming platform are more on the interface they want as much as possible a very unique interface that they can differentiate them from other gambling platform, you should improve or tweak the template if it's open source, another one is promotion not many gamblers knows the existence of this platform.

If that person doesn't know how to control his tension and his money, he will still deposit more and more money without thinking that what he did is not right for himself. He needs to calm down for a while and wait for the result that will come out.

Somehow, marketing can give the gambling site more chances to attract more people or invite the other gamblers to test the site. If he can get a better result from the people, he will invite more people to play on his site.

Maybe people just curious about the game, and after they play for some time, and they see that the game can not serve them better, they will back to the old game. Some gamblers prefer to avoid boredom playing in the same gambling site for a long time. Although the game is not a new game, they need a new experience. They need to see what other gambling site offers.

What are the chances of a gambler predicting that hash number?

Another thing is that really enjoyable for those users? That kind of game that would make the customer go back. While other games have a higher house edge their games are more exciting and thrilling that despite the fact that these online casinos have 0% house edge, they would just pick higher house edge with entertaining games and players.

6.25% = 1 choice out of 16 characters as explained by milewilda.

The 0% house edge can be considered as a "bait" to lure in players but the casino will still win in the end since the game difficulty is much higher compared to other casinos with house edge. While it looks legit, other players may still view this as deceitful.

my excuse is that im not a fan of litecoin and obviously i dont have litecoin now but i have btc and can also gamble with xrp i think that was your biggest mistake on why you transfer to ltc or why not support multiple coins instead of having one ? in that way many gamblers will not give thier excuses anymore on why they wont play this new game with zero house edge in it .

i dont question that zero house edge but im actually amaze that there is really a site that offers that with a good reputation because others that offer that are uknown site and easily died .

Simple but valid. Gamblers have their respective reasons on why they are not playing.

Even the owner provides benefits or even freebies but once the player/gambler itself doesn't want to play or use your platform then you can't force them to play. Maybe add more interesting offer something that your competitors are getting customers, learn from them and start competing.

The best way to get lots of people interested in your gambling site is to spend a budget for promotion. That's the best way to do it,
because nowadays a lot of new gambling sites have sprung up with attractive promotions. Therefore, to be able to compete and
survive in the world of gambling, you must be able to promote your gambling site, so that it can be known to many people.
It's not enough to give gamblers a 0% house edge, it's not enough to make your gambling site crowded with lots of people.

The average Joe does not understand what your site is all about, because they play on Slots that are not complex at all. So your target audience is much smaller and focused on people who knows something about Blockchains.

Also, when people see a 0% House edge, they immediately raise red flags for it being a scam. I have see social experiments where cash was put on a table with a little notice saying FREE CASH and most people just walked past it, because they thought that there are some kind of scam or hook behind it. (We are taught by society that nothing in life is FREE)

Raise the house edge to say 0.1% and say it is only for a promotional period of 3 months. (Then people will think it is a try before you buy thing)  ;)

Maybe he can do another way to invite more gamblers to come to his site besides of offer a 0% house edge, especially if his site does not have many gamblers before.
Relaunching his site will need more effort to get more members because I think many gamblers already leave the site. After all, we don't know if there is any update for their members or not before.
Besides that, his gambling site needs to compete with the other gambling site, which already has many members, and he needs to give more offers to them, so they are interested in coming to his site.

Because every 0% edge game I've seen is still subject to commissions and long settling, and usually on ETH;)

None of that is a bad thing but I guess I still prefer my 1% edge on dice, or even +ve edge on Sports bets!

This is just similar to 0 edge lottery games I feel on some sites. It is a nice edge but the wait is pretty long and makes sense for the regular lotto player maybe?

I wasn't sure what could be an advantage of 0% House Edge to the players it's my first time hearing those but do you think that would be really a great to have a 0% House Edge?

Isn't this game works like lottery? Bet an amount and guess the digit. The last digit of your tx hash will match with your guess, if you are lucky enough. There is nothing interesting. Maybe for these reason people don't have any interest on your game, even though it's offering 0% HE.

I think the layout of the site is perfect for this type of game. But a lot of things has changed in last few years. All other casino included many new games with various promotions. Gamblers like to play those games, cause those games are unique and interesting with great concept. That's why you aren't getting response like before.

Perhaps the same reasons why people play slots with ~5% house edge.
They want to play a nice game, so you should work on the gameplay more.

Most of the time, people couldn't really notice the percentage of House Edge when they are playing. They could just play the game and see if there's a chance that they really win. But most of the casinos took advantage of this mindset of the gamblers as most of the gamblers are already enjoying the gambling with just the fun animations and gameplay with good background music. This is kind of making the illusion of physical gambling feels real but in fact, we all just want to have fun even if we are losing a lot. But if you really want to play with the games without thinking about House Edge, you should consider playing cards such as black jack and poker with other gamblers.

Nice comparison! Some people doesnt really care if the house edge is too big because they do much prefer on playing slots which do really entertains them rather than playing into a game
even if its zero house edge but if it doesnt able to entertain them or doesnt put up some interest then it would be still useless.

Gameplay is the main issue here because if you do compare the people whom interested with slots and dice compared to blockchain games then you can see
which one does have lots of players.

Not to say that he should quit up on his game site but in reality this isnt really that too interesting.

The offers seem to be enticing having a 0% house edge is a big deal for gamblers but like the others, the gambling sites appear to be boring it is less attractive compare to the others.

Since most players do gambling for entertainment might as well make some changes on your design try to make it more lively than once player visited your site it could already catch their attention and would be made them remember it all throughout.

I guess, your website already offers a good promotion on this 0% house edge but any promotions will be of no use if it is not been publicized, advertisement is needed through social media such as Facebook or youtube and I'm pretty sure that it will definitely gain more players for your gambling site.

Its prolly your UI  ::)

Personally this is the first time im hearing about this website and i visit the forum quite often, so i really think you should maybe start diverting some funds to marketing as it could benefit you alot. So anyway upon visiting the website i dont see any ads running uhmm how are u guys making profit if its 0% house edge. im no math genious but wouldnt this make you lose money in the long run ? what am  i missing here...

That's very nice but if you look at the profit margins you'd have, I doubt you even need a house edge in the first place. Unlike other typical gambling sites, you offer x16 profits for all the bets I reckon. Logically, in every bet placed, you as the house have more chances of winning, or let's say you will win on every bet, unlike the gamblers who would win only some rounds or maybe just a couple of them. Anyway, I don't think reducing your house edge should matter or change your numbers in terms of the customers.

This is what I am thinking here. The gambler has low odds on winning. So yes, even if there's no house edge, the site is still in the winning side. So ask themselves why people are not attracted on their site and they already know the answer.  :P

More reason a lot of people are actually not playing here.

It may be much higher than the Lottery but still, not that easy. Another thing is that despite people betting on marble, yes marbles, I think they won't be that inclined to ber on this since it is about the Blockchain. For them it is boring and I agree that it has a few customers. Maybe other games with the same house edge?

I think you should advertise it more. I agree that a game with 0% house edge is rare, actually no casinos provide 0% house edge because in the long run there is 50-50 chance that the site can go totally bankrupt. So I would definitely say that you should expect more players but I think advertisement is what you need most.

Yes you are right but at least you try to do some advertisement in it rather than making a single thread post that can't get to other users here in the forum. Anyway, it is your choice and this is only a sort of advise that if you wanted a heavy traffic in your platform then spendinh for advertisement aside from 0% house edge will do. There is no need to ask for an excuse here regarding on your offer. Anyway, good luck on your promotion of 0% house edge.

If the house edge is 0% then I would wonder how your online casino earn anything, because you're not surely paying your expenses out of your own pocket, if I learned one thing in gambling that would be the fact that if the house edge is 0% then that means the online casino will be getting it's fee/income from other parts of its website, for example they can increase withdrawal fees and that way they can earn a percentage out of every transaction that is being sent out, it's better to be transparent about these kind of matters and if you claim your house edge is really 0% then you have to at least mention where is your website income is coming from.

Exactly. There is no free meal. If you are not paying for the product, then you are the product.

Alright sometimes people do stuff for free but it is very rare.

One can create a 0% HE casino no problems but who's going to pay for the costs? Somebody has to.

It is a scam alert most of the time.

I think it is just right because basing off on the odds then when someone do hits up then that would really be a 16x payout into his bet and consider
if the amount is way more higher than into those typical losing bets that had been accumulated then that will surely be a negative on the house
because they would need to compensate into those lacking funds.If bets are on constant basis then they might not really be needing at all
because they will surely still make revenue or profit considering the odds of winning is low but if 16x hit from players do always happen
then i doubt that they can really sustain for longer run.

This is the choice of the gambling site if this kind of advertisement is effective for them then why not to try it again but since they stopped it, maybe it didn’t work well and lose big money instead. If its 0% house edge then its not gambling anymore, it more likes a free money for the gambler and this is not how business works.

That's part of the promotion so the gambling site also risked their promotion to gather more potential customers to register with them. Gambling could be in different strategies from the owner, maybe we're looking it in different ways as it's not gambling on our personal mindset. Losing bigger money is always part of the process before hitting successful outcome.

In principle, the casino always has the advantage. I don't think there are situations where you have a 0% advantage as a casino. They always have an advantage. That is between the 2 and 5% standard.
And that is still with an optimal strategy of the player. So you could never come out profitable in the long run. If you win a lot, that basically means that somebody else loses a lot (if you trust the statistics)

This is what they need to advertise to make their casino more engagement to their platform. A lot of gambling site these days that offer the best services and that can be 0% house edge. Players looks for more games to played with and also in terms of deposit and withdrawal are fast. Also, I visit their site it is not attractive so hopefully they will improve it as this is also one of the important factors to attract more users.

The main reason for me to avoid this game is the fixed multiplier 1/16 chance in winning isn't for everyone and the 0% house edge seems like a bonus knowing that you have a low chance of winning. If there's an option to adjust the chances of winning or the multiplier to x2 I think more gamblers would be interested in trying the game even if it's only for the experience.

It just shows that hard and serious advertisement is a must even how good your gambling site is.

No way a gambler will just easily be attracted to that 0% house edge on the site that isn't advertised well and doesn't establish a good reputation yet

And what I noticed, don't get me wrong here, the site is not the typical site that every gambler might try since the interface is simple.

For me, most probably the 6.25% chance of winning which is very low since I believe you only allow single bet for every transaction (correct me if I'm wrong). In the perspective of a user, the chance of losing is pretty high, on the other hand, looking at your perspective losing is almost assured. It's just the matter of how high or low the winning bet is to consider if you've lost or won. High risk... but I'm thinking of joining somehow.

maybe it is the game that you have.  I for one wouldn't play on your website since there is nothing engaging in it and pique my interest even it has 0% house edge. and to be honest, when a gambler gamble(at least me) they don't just play mindlessly they want action, movement or something like that to keep their mind and interest occupied on what they play or at least on what is on the website.

And that is Basically mean He was just Very lucky to At least Beat the casino,But of course we only beat in game but not in Money since the Money we take home are from those loser that same time you play.
So thats Right 0%  House edge seems to be not in efect.
1/16 is enough i guess to think that the gambling site is too generous lol.

Because in other game the chance is almost more than a thousand % chances .
because they Knew that a Hustler and Old time player will never believe in that 0% house edge,that would sounds a joke lol.

It is simple, possible player don't find it fun anymore.  We all know fun diminishes over time.  Players that were so fond of the betting game on the last hash may probably find it today as a boring game.  Even though 0% house edge is really great, players wanted to experience something else, just like dishes during mealtime.

There can be two reasons only -
1. The game is not exciting enough to catch people's attention.  Gamblers who wants to relax and enjoy some leisure time, would not play this game. Inly who focuses on making money, may try this out. But people really do like attractive visual inputs while playing in online casinos.

2. Reputation is another factor which gamblers monitor very closely. Your company is apparently not a registered casino (at least I couldn't find anything). So at this point, when a casino offers 0% house edge, gamblers would think that the casino will only make money out of people's pocket. Even though this factor doesn't have much impact, but still a factor to consider.

Or maybe they already get the fun thing they search from the gambling site they played before. They don't want to try with the other gambling site or test their luck in the new gambling site. Even if they see that many gambling sites offer so many bonuses to the new member or old members, they still use the current gambling site. There are many possibilities for the gamblers to try to stay at the existing site or playing in the other gambling site.

What the gambling site can do is trying to promote and invite other people to come to their site and play the games. Let people decide to play gambling on that site still or not because we can not force them to try if they don't want to test it.

As you said you don't have any advertisements use for your gambling website , do you really think gamers will just check your casino randomly if they don't know what you are offering 0% is nothing if there is no players that  will play.
At least use some money or little amount of money for advertisement so other possible players can see it . You can adjust your house edge just to have marketing promotion.

You have 1/16 or 6.25% chance in winning, if you bet on only one digit to avail 16x multiplier. If you bet on 8 digit out of 16 in a single block, then you have 1/2 or 50% chance in winning, where you are availing 2x multiplier. House edge always remains 0%.

But are you sure users can easily place bets on 8 digits at once with one single computer? You should post some pictures to be more compelling IMHO.

That would really be a hassle thing to do on where you do place up 8 bets and making transaction every bets you do made since every bet do only post up 1 digit or character
where it means if you do long for 8 bets for 50% chance then that's already a hassle thing.

This is where people do find out this kind of game which do take some time for you to know the results compared if you do just simply
play with dice.

Even though this one doesn't have a house edge but still this type of game isn't really that interesting at all.

like all the others opinion here it's the absence of the marketing, gamblers loves 0% house edge and may try playing on that kind of casinos but you must bring it to them, and the gambling site should be legit and had a good reputation, they don't need great features if they are not payng gamblers and they you are not fair to them.

I'm not sure you can do that this way, because it's written in their FAQ you can only send one transaction to the generated address.
https://www.chain-bet.com/

I think this site is not good, how can it be a donation when the coin deposited is still in their wallet, I've done this in sportsbet, sending different transaction to a single address and there's no problem, all transactions are credited.

I think litecoin blockchain stopping. Joke. If to tell serious, i think the main idea is that such games do not have any entertainment. Just betting and then waiting for needed block. It's not fun and this takes some time, in dice or slots everything much faster.

This is one weird moment into your game: the expected value is neutral. I mean if you bet 1 dollar, EV is like 1 dollar too (16 * (1/16) = EV). What a reason to run such gambling? 

The problem here is, they think its enough that their 0% House Edge that they don't do advertising, in today's world to be able to get the people attention is to have advertisement, actually even not paid advertising will do since they will be able to advertise in different social media platforms as well here in forum provided they have proofs of them being legal and have no bad records. It's easier to market products now if you have skills in photography or editing as well active chat support in the website it will works.

But it's not a sport bet, it's a dice game. I don't know if it's the main reason but there could be some issues if transactions are sent while the outcome is about to be announced.

aside from advertisement, do you think players will be attracted to their site? but very true, 0% HE is not the only factor how you can attract bettors. theres more than this.
 also, i dont like bout not accepting multi txs to the gen addy, you will really have low odds here. so i guess the OP already got the idea why people are not that interested with 0% he gambling platform.
its the combination of various features that attracts the player. not the HE alone.

It's useless gambling sites offer a 0% house edge if not in conjunction with the promotion, How do gamblers know that gambling
sites offer a 0% house edge if not doing promotion. To make gambling sites visited by many people, a good promotion is needed,
so don't feel like you are losing out on spending a budget for promotion. Many attractive offers from gambling sites, without promotion
will be wasted.

That's right. OP must have missed a lot in making very important promotional efforts. It is not enough that you are offering something which even the most popular and leading gambling sites do not offer. Getting the gamblers informed about the offer is the first necessary step. It is indispensable. Without it, the offer would go to waste as gamblers won't be playing.

Marketing should be provided with a certain amount of capital to make sure your brand and special offer will be known.

It is really rare, there's even one thread here that ask about zero house edge but unfortunately, the lack of promotion and reviews makes your gambling site unable to take off, you should also change your interface to something that is unique, I have seen interface similar to yours with a bad reputation in the market if you implement these two you have a good chance to have more users.

This is my opinion regarding about your question.

(1) 0% house edge is indeed a good deal when it comes to gambling, but still, losing is inevitable in every gambling sites so players tend to look for more exciting games that's worthy of their losses. (2) Gamblers are bored in that kind of game, because it's very simple yet winning is so hard. Predicting to win is fun in sports since you could watch the match while waiting but it's the opposite on your blockchain game.

So I guess you guys should start to think of something that could spice things up in your gambling sites to gain more players again betting on your games.

I doubt no one (at least most of the players) care about the house edge of games that are "kind of unique". You should probably provide something more attractive to your players to promote your casino. Maybe deposit bonus or something?

How would people know about your 0% House edge if you don't "burn" your money to advertise it? Proper promotion matters a lot. Try advertising about your casino on different appropriate platform. Get a proper userbase and then do those house edge promotions.

I never encountered any gambling casino which offer o% house edge. Those who offer zero percent house edge are wrong and they claim it falsely. That's my excuse of avoiding such games to avoid being scammed.

However i will check the OP site to see if they are really offering 0% house edge  ???

0% house edge is either a scam or a promotion. You can't provide 0% house edge all the time. Even if you managed to be totally 50% win and loss, you'd still need money to host your site. And if it's successful enough, it would be a costly project to run.
And gamblers would want to indulge in something that is working and would probably work for foreseeable future. 1% house edge is perfect if you be able to cater to user experience.

They are offering 0% house edge because your winning odds is very low. So in effect, they are already winning even if they offer 0% house edge. Also, if you look at their site, I don't think many gamblers will be interested on playing the game. Even if their 0% HE is legit I don't think players will be attracted to this game. Maybe add another game at least dice, and let's see if they will still offer the 0% HE.

You can really make out some comparison between a slot game and a blockchain based type of game when it comes to excitement.The waiting time on getting the actual
result of your bet is obviously longer compared if you do just simply play a dice or a slot and to know that gamblers doesnt really like too much delay or long time waiting
into their game outcome or results which will really be making that kind of boring situation or feeling and that what makes them avoid this one and also with
the design of the site then its nothing that you would really be tempting out to play with it.Its just too simple and plain and chain games or blockchain
arent really that interesting or appealing even if they do put up 0% house edge it wont really be enough on making people do get interested with it.

Perhaps you don't have enough ads your site on crypto forums?
In fact, here on the forum, people quite often arrange drawings of various coins and Souvenirs related to cryptocurrencies. There are free Raffles, and there are those where you need to pay a small amount of Bitcoins.
You may need to diversify your raffles and sometimes set up a coin or souvenir of a similar value as a prize. This could attract people to your site.

Not really. Even if the odds are really low, it doesn't matter when it comes to many players. Surely you have a chance of hitting the win less, but if different players place a bet on different numbers, the chances of casino going bank-rupt is 50-50. It's like a roulette without a zero. You can place a bet on any number and you have probability of winning 1/36. But doesn't matter, if you hit the number twice by being lucky you go with a big win and casino is in big loss!

Personally, I don't feel the difference if they have 0% house edge. I still lose my bankroll when I try to play on that game and it's just the same experience when playing other games. So I think it's just all about luck, no matter what the game is. Gambling is a form of entertainment after all, not a way to earn money from it.

Games with 0% house edge should be able to attract more players to play on it because in general, most players will prefer to play games with a low house edge. Supposedly if gamblers choose a game with a 0% house edge, it means their chance of winning is 50%. So playing games like this should give gamblers a bigger chance to earn extra money (although it still depends on luck).

But if a game with 0% house edge is avoided by gamblers, I think the main cause is that gamblers are not interested in playing it. It could be the games offered are less attractive or players doesn't like the rules.

It is good that you have the 0% house edge, most of the gamblers are looking for that thing but you should make some other details on this post, you are promoting the website so you should use some words that may attract them to try the website. I also visit the website and it seems like you have to hire a good designer, the GUI should be good and attractive for the gamblers so they will not get bored while playing or entering your website.

0% house edge means the odds are 50% and gamblers often love to gamble with such environment, though this depends on the type of game on the casino platform. A game with 0% house edge will definitely attract gamblers, but this will depend on the attractiveness of the game in question, if they will take the risk of adding roulette, dice and other games, then better for gamblers, although, in all the gamblers need luck on side to win.

The point of gambling is not winning, the point of gambling is having fun. People find rolling virtual dice more fun than waiting for next Litecoin block, simple as that. If you want to attract more gamblers with your 0% house edge offer, then just make 0% house edge versions of the popular games, like the mentioned dice or lotteries. But I won't be surprised if people would still choose places places with non-zero house edge, because overall user experience is more important. People get used to interface, they for connections with fellow gamblers in chat, etc.

For me, those two should come together, you don't have fun unless you win.
That's my personal view although and I respect your view as well, but in the end of the day, as long as we are not risk of losing everything, we will be alright.

This is 100% correct.

0% house edge is just a mask to hide the gambling site real intention to players which is to eat up all their bets when they started to bet in their favorite games. I think this is the reason as well why people get contented too much and trust their money too much on the "0% house edge" scheme like words. When the players are getting the entertainment they want, they already forget about the 0% house edge and gamble in a irresponsible way they shouldn't be.

I would not label these sites as scam right away. There is a chance that they are offering it as a part of the promotional campaign. Or there is a chance that they have an alternate source of income, such as advertisement revenue. But I agree that in the long term, it is very difficult for any gambling site or online casino to remain profitable, with 0% house advantage.

But there are some offers at first but eventually changes to much higher house edge lol.

But indeed this is not appropriate for gambling business because this sounds fooling player when the gamblers knows already the basic on how Casino owners make money in gambling.

So you should stay away from that. Maybe that site offers that thing for a week to invite more gamblers to play on their site, and after a week, they will back to their current rules. But we decide to play on 0% house edge or not because we will know what we want by playing on many casinos. But if we only search for fun things, maybe we don't even think about a 0% house edge because that is our reason to gamble. It will be back to the gambler itself.

This is only way to advertise that 0% house edge  they only use it as advertisment to have more players interest in start . Once they have enough players  they will surely add it to earn the casino and to continue their services. There is no such a thing as 0% house edge for long term if that what you want to build then what is the porpuse having it if you don't earn any money ?

I just saw the thread the first time. We shouldn't instantly call the site a scam without having more information because it can just be a promotional campaign for limited period of time to attract new gamblers. Also the rake might be earned from other games which enables the casino to offer one game without a house edge.

For some people gambling is often seen as entertainment, so for the sake of getting pleasure they are willing to exchange their money for fun, and even if they are lucky they will get an additional bonus in the form of a win.

But gambling can also be profitable, so there will always be people who are focused on it and did not play for fun. And in my opinion, games with a low house edge should be more attractive for gamblers who are driven by the profit motive, because their chances of winning are much greater than having to play in games with a high house edge.

If you do try to look on what kind of game on where op is offering then you can tell that this is no different into those games which arent really that interesting at all.

Even it doesnt have house edge but if you dont find it interesting then you would just simply skip it out which is normal and also you cant make out multiple bet at once

which means you would be making single bets with less chances of winning which not all would really be that seeing as a good form of entertainment.

the idea of 0% House edge sounds good and this isn't a problem.

it's the first time that I have seen your site despite I have read many times about this gambling idea.
Probably you need to get promotion on forum and other internet places (discord telegram etc), the game itself isn't easy at all, players would deserve some promotion or other kind of initiative...

The idea is good, but the realization is slow.

I'm ready to pay the 1% house edge but to play with my tempo. E.g. I find it annoying to wait for a new block after every single bet.

IMO people want action in gambling and EOS based on-chain results are better for this. 

I guess my reason would be I just don't like the games and I don't trust the site that much.
I gamble to have fun and most of their games doesn't excite me so I would still go to my long time gambling sites.

If people know about that, they will not choose that site, instead of searching for the other reliable gambling site. They are willing to spend their time getting the right gambling site than to play on the site they don't trust. Most people who have their favorite gambling games will use their old gambling sites rather than select the other sites.

It is a good thing that the casino has the initiative to launch a game with 0 house edge. But it is quite not convincing as many gamblers think that there's always a house edge in the casino. The reason is that the casino is a business and it needs to win and perhaps, have a higher chance than the gamblers as they need to operate for long. It was also accepted that's why most of the gamblers are just testing their luck knowing that the house edge is higher than what they could have. - With regards to marketing, it is way better to expand the marketing, the development of the games, and to build the excitement of the players. It will play a very important role in attracting new gamblers to play. I can say, even if gamblers are losing, if they feel that the game is genuine, they will play it again and again without really understanding statistics and numbers.

Well, I believe house edge doesn't matter as much as people sometime think because if house edge was such a prominent factor in deciding which game to play and wager then all these third party slots games would have been closed by now. There are players who will gamble all day on slots despite knowing the usual house edge on slots is around 5% and they have the option for dice which works at 1% but because slots have a attracting layout and refreshing to play, usually players opt for slots despite the big house edge.

Having low or no house edge will be great but the questions remains the same, is the casino able to create games that are refreshing enough to attract the players? Because we all are bored with the classic dice game, no matter how easy and fair it is.

Zero house edge would really be just good for temporary basis but if you do talk about on a permanent one then its impossible for it to be implemented out for too long for a gambling businesses.
This is where they do get their revenue and imposing no fee will really put out on thinking on how the heck they would able to generate profits?

It wont really sustainable in real talks thats why its hard that they wont really be making changes later on.TO those factors that you had mentioned then theres no doubt
and it should really be considered from time to time.

In regards to the game being offered on where op is wondering on why theres no interest even if its sets to 0% house edge then its because the
game itself isnt really interesting at all.

Also house edge is not always indicative of how much we are gonna lose. You can check your loses and your loses are way higher than the house edge, what I am saying is - do you always lose 0.01 BTC after wagering 1 BTC? of course not we tend to lose it much quicker so house edge doesn't exactly determine how much we will lose.

Most casinos have a provably fair script which you can use to verify the results so trust is not a big issue for anyone I suspect in crypto based casinos although there are trust issues about withdrawals and other stuffs.

Doesn't make sense. Almost all games are similar lmao, just the UI and fun doesn't make sense if you have to choose between a 0% house-edge and a non-0% house-edge as in a casino with non-0% house-edge you are guaranteed to lose in long run. But if you gamble just for fun then might be reason that you can afford to lose money for entertainment. But yeah, if you want just profit, 0% house-edge is what you want.

The question is the probability fairness of 0% house edge ,they may put extra percent for them to make you lose so they are also the same,you can play in with house edge longer before you lose while in 0 house edge you might end sooner.
Well trust is important in each site that we are playing and if we are in doubt then we better not  go and play since there are so many sites that offers the same game in which legit and trustworthy .

LOL, yeah right there buddy what's most important is the platform itself and the games to be played. With that promo having a zero percent house-edge does only mean that you need more traffic in your site. Well, that is not the case of a certain we may call a good platform for gambling. In my opinion a good gambling platform has a decent, good and working  interface featuring what a gamblers need may it be in a casino or sports betting. I had been promoting betnomi but I am a gambler and use the platform too and nothing I can say about this gambling platform except q very nice and good platform.

Completely agree with you! It's slow, it's just one game... why do we need any excuse at all! We play on sites that meet our demands, simply as that!
The entire crypto is going through rapid growth, we can say the same for crypto casinos! Many alts, chains, casinos...all of them are trying to attract people with something! Of course not all of them can be trusted, some casinos are scams, and they don't last long, while trustworthy casinos grow with the market!
Except action and excitement in gambling, people like entertainment! You get all 3 when you play your favorite game! So maybe this casino should add more interesting game, and some of us will stop by and try it!

Mind Giving specific gambling site that offers this 0% House edge that Gives stakes?i have no idea about them since i only play in traditional Sites that has minimal House edge so i want to venture this one if legit and truthful.
Which sites are those mate?like the first i quoted there are no mentioned specific Site to check about the claims.

There are no excuse gamblers wants to play in 0% house edge but the gambling site you mentioned is not the kind of gamblers wants to play with I thought it's a dice game or slots or anything like that, but like all the other who posted in your thread, you need to market it some players including me are not aware of it.

Hmm ... I wonder how a casino can exist with zero fees? Any project requires spending on infrastructure and it costs a certain amount of money. Perhaps your project receives payments from the players in some other way? Or am I misunderstanding something.

A game with 0% house edge is good, and I don’t see anything wrong about to make me avoid to play it. Although the problem would may be about the website and the game, which is not attractive enough to drive people in. In my opinion if this would be applied to dice game or other known casino game, many gamblers will surely be encouraged to play it.

To be honest when I check the site it is not attractive and not entertaining. The interface is quite plain and the game is old. We all know there are many gambling site these days and for you to be competitive you must have to attract users to keep coming back in your site. Even the offer with 0% house edge users will still play if they find it entertaining and profitable since players are into enjoyment than winnings. Might as well change the service or game that you offer in your site.

Even if you look at the answers in this topic, the main question becomes clear. How can your casino exist with 0% payouts? I think that for most players this is not clear and they think that there may be some deception in your casino and this may discourage many players from playing on your site.

They had mentioned that they had set out 0% house edge to give back something to the community which is really hard to believe considering that
gambling site is a business which means you would need to make up some revenue to be sustainable in long term.

Hence, this one been offering zero house edge which is impossible for it to sustain for longer runs but somehow when I do check out
on what type of game this is then I can say that it isn't surprising that majority wont really be interested to it.

I don't see blockchain games to be that attractive.

I don't see it either, people are gambling on two things they want to be entertained and they want to win depends on the priority the players, will opted to play in casino with many games like dice slot baccarat poker, something that your site is not offering to their clients, you can get some players who's main goal is just to win money.

At some point, gamblers want to have fun. And his site by any means is far from that. Maybe some will play at the start but in the long run, I don't think they will stick to it. Unless, the owner will innovate their site and offer other games.

If gamblers want to search for fun, they don't have to think much about strategy, chasing the win money, and even 0% house edge because they want to enjoy the gambling games. It would help if you did not play the games for a long time because that can lead you to get a high pressure to recover your loss. If that happens, I am afraid you won't listen to your heart to stop playing the game, and you will use more money to recover the losses. But the site can offer to give 0% house edge to their members to attract more players to come to their site.

I can see the views that are pointed out here and I must say that they all have sense.
But do you happen to know any specific casino sites that offers 0% house edge?
If anyone knows some, please do enlighten us to fill in the context of this thread.

0% house edge means nothing despite the fact that it's the greatest advantage over other casinos. You have to acknowledge that 0% house edge will finally kill your business in just a few days/months.
Another example - It doesn't matter if you make very high quality Cognac, you can't beat Hennesy without proper marketing. And in this case, OP can't beat any casino with 0% house edge and website that looks like to be made by a two years old child that was just randomly clicking on buttons. User Interface plays a huge role for company! It's a look that attracts you.

Well that's true talk, from forum members requested was that, the casino should ensure to make the game look interesting for gamblers as the current game on the platform doesn't look attractive to gamblers. Personally, the gambling platform interface doesn't look appealing either, as such won't attract gamblers, hope to see more games are be added.

You wont really be expecting something fancy styles with a blockchain based kind of website where you do just simply choose up those characters or numbers
that whom you do see that will able to come out on such hash.

Adding other games wont really be a solution because it would always be a challenge on how you do able to get players into your site even this one will be offering some
dice games and slots then it will really able to move the tendency for it to fail but the difference of this one is that the community doesn't really
care too much of blockchain games existence.

Any player understands how the casino functions and knows why the casino should take its commission. Paradoxical as it may seem, favorable conditions are often frightening because the players do not understand how such conditions can be offered. I think that any such advantageous offer should be accompanied by a detailed explanation of why and how such an offer became possible.

Okay. Since the pandemic many people have become more perceptive of scam projects and all, sometimes too perceptive. I understand that your intentions are pure in trying to give back something to your community, but then again you have to understand that it has to be proven in some way or another, otherwise it would just be a baseless claim which may even ruin your project for other future gamblers. Or maybe next time, fund a research team to create feasibility studies to make sure your every move is calculated so you don't lose stuff like these.
The site he's, working on is the one offering 0% house edge to give something back to the community, what he's trying to understand is why is it that the site visit and gambling ratio volume still low despite doing such a bold move that may cost them a fortune.

@OP, the times were different 4 years back and BTC wasn't even $5k at that time I guess, so alts were just nuts. Now, when things have changed, everyone is trying to collect as much crypto as possible. In the middle of that, if you ask why people are not gambling at your site even with a 0% house edge, I'd just say that they're too scared to bet on a game that gives a 16x "only" when their block hash's last letter/number will match their prediction. For that, one can't go and make multiple selections all at once (maybe reduce the prize money 4 times if one selects more than 1 letter/number). Try to make it more easy for the gamblers as we will be happy with some house edge but can't go and bet big knowing that the price of these valuable coins can rise any moment from now.

Do we really believe into this kind of line?


This would really raises some questions because as mentioned.Its impossible for a house on not to make money.
There's no point for some operation if you aren't earning something.

It doesn't matter even the site offer 0% house edge, once the gambler aggressively trying to recover all their loses it will end up losing more money than coping up with loses, if you miscalculated your funds and you don't know how to work with your bankroll chances that you'll lose more will highly anticipated.

0% house edge indeed nothing to affect anything if gamblers can't control their emotions,
also nothing if gamblers also doesn't care about it and only looking to have some comfort and
enjoyment inside the house.

if the interface does not look good so what more the whole site,if there is one thing that must be attractive then it must be the interface before the whole system.
But of course the fairness of the site is always important ,But talking about 0% house edge ,what i think is that they need to atleast be open to the players how would it works and what is the advantage and disadvantage compared to with edge sites.

OP has been around for a while and has advertised extensively, so I don't necessarily think that he is trying to exit scam (obviously, i could be proven wrong).

I just think that it's completely the wrong way to market your game. Gambling is supposed to be appealing and fast paced, not a mechanical process with a mediocre interface.

I've been saying this again and again - gambling is entertainment. If the user doesn't find the game entertaining, even if you give him 0% house edge they don't have any further incentive to try out a game given the other risks and variances associated with it.

 ;D I understand that there are many fools in gambling (as in any other activity), but usually fools run out of money very quickly, so I still consider this business from the point of view of deals with smart people. We must focus on smart people. And from the point of view of smart people, such proposals seem suspicious.

Very well said, fools lose money in casinos, I mean a lot of money as they underestimate the risk in gambling, while I'm not saying that the smart people wins, at least they understand the risk so if they'll lose, they will only lose within their limit.

It is right that 0% house edge can kill our business, but if the casino thinks that way can attract more gamblers to come, they will not have a problem because they will not use 0% house edge for a long time. They will use that for promotion only, and I think many gamblers will be interested in visiting and playing on that site. If the popular site offers that to many gamblers and promotes it on their social media and other websites, they will get more gamblers to come to their site.

That will depend on the gambler itself if the gambler knows that if they are still playing on the casino that uses those offers, the gambler's chance to lose more money will become bigger. The gamblers will think that it is their chance to get the win while the casino offers a 0% house edge. That can make the gambler lose control of their emotions, and they will forget about limitations that they already use.

I thought the same thing. Creating and maintaining a website costs money. They also need to pay money to employees. Therefore, a gambling site should earn money. If a zero casino advantage is set, then there is some other earnings that players are not told about. Personally, this fact would stop me from playing on this site.

Running one would really be having an expense.This kind of site doesnt really need employees to pay but you can only run for yourself which means
you dont need to spend up that much compared to those casinos which does have lots of games integrated to it but to think that this site
does still have a bit of expense like maintaining the site ex. domain and other things which really involves money and if you do make out
a business that isnt really gaining revenue or profit then you would definite pull off some funds into your pocket.So its really pointless
on running one if you arent really making money.

It is that because gamblers are not comfortable with your site and your proposals. Who could think that it was at 0% House edge while the other games have it? How it is possible that you will be making any profit from this?

I don't think it is helping to attract gamblers and as an effective strategy but what I take for this is that it only gives a question mark to them.
You have existed for many years without any changes, that is something terrible, and that they are worried if this is true or just a trick.

You've said it is a rare offer and that is the reason.

All websites do have an expense in existing and maintenance. If you are the one who built your own casino with just simple games, The cost of it will not really be expensive than a big casino, and this where you can apply that 0% house edge. There are also ways to have revenue like adding some fees on withdrawal on top of the transaction fee which is not that good for gamblers.

Even a 0% house edge casino is released, there won't be any guarantee that people will take part in it. There are some 0% house edge casino before that didn't survive the competition and burned out in the way by those low house edge casinos that are actively giving promotion to make people hear their casino. Gamblers would basically choose the casino that is giving the promotion than stick with a 0% house edge casino.

Do you really think that such sites work by themselves and do not require employees to work correctly? I think that at least one person is needed who will monitor the deposits made to user's accounts and the money withdrawn by them. In addition, there must be an employee responsible for the security of the site, so that it can't be hacked and steal all the money. therefore, the costs there are really significant and they should at least be covered by the site's profit.

Logically it doesn't make sense gambling sites offer gamblers with a 0% house edge, because gambling sites do not benefit from
doing so. Maybe some gamblers are suspicious of the offer, so some gamblers finally decided to avoid playing on these gambling sites.
Or there is a possibility that gamblers do not find interesting games on the gambling site, because most gamblers play gambling for
entertainment. So they have to find something that can entertain them on the gambling site, if not then it's useless that the 0% house edge
offer doesn't make gamblers interested.

Why would need if you would make all in automation? It isnt really that necessary to get some employee if you can handle by yourself with the help of those tools.
It isnt really needed to have some assistance yet you can do it for yourself or doesnt really involved too much work unless if its a big gambling site then
thats the time you would consider on getting some employees for making the work or job done fast and organized.

That is true, gambling sites get their profit from house-edge, aside from fees they charge from transactions. Bigger gambling platform has to pay staff to maintain the platform running smoothly, marketing and etc.  0% house-edge can be catchy, but gamblers would rather play on quality platforms even if they pay small amount of house-edge for better service and convenience.

If a gambler search for the casino that they want, they will not have a problem if the site doesn't have 0% house edge because as long as they can get comfortable from the site, they will stay. But they can search for a 0% house edge if they want to have another experience to play gambling on the other sites. Gamblers will search for how they can enjoy the games and some of them want to make money, so they would search a gambling site which can fit their need.

Despite the 0% house-edge, it would not be that popular.

Just imagine the chance of you winning in this game. Yes it is 0% house-edge but it is still close to a lottery where gamblers might take a chance but if you really want to win, you'll choose other games. Another thing is that the expected customers or gamblers is far too little unlike other games of other sites despite the house-edge they have, people are enjoying it and find it so entertaining.

Basically, if they can see that they are winning even if they cannot really verify the outcomes of each game, they will continue to play and test their luck. It is no matter if the house edge is too much or 0%, what makes a casino stands out from its competitor is when it offers many perks such as rakebacks and it has a good visual and audio that makes the game exciting to play. Imagine, knowing that the house edge is zero but the animation from the game is nothing, I don't think it will still be considered by the players. What is better is to make it balanced, giving a real advantage from the house and still providing the best service in terms of game idea and user experience to the platform.

There are some site i have read specially recently that owned and operate with single person/owner and also same as other exchange .

So i think there is no impossible having these kind of Business specially if you can manage and sustain all of the needs of the subscriber/players/gamblers so Yeah Let the business run as long as it is supported by gamblers and not messing in gambling community .

That is so true. I don't think it would rake gamblers in their casino site if they will only flail their 0% house edge while other online casinos, even though their gambling site have a higher house edge, have quality and really great games that is played by a lot of gamblers for a long period of time. Who would be interested in this kind of game though?

I checked on the site and it has only one game, compared to other top gambling sites online that offer many games and many contest giveaways I don't think this gambling site has a chance at all, people are playing to have some fun and to be entertained and they do want to make money too, but they both want it, so they will always prefer gambling with a lot of features with house edge.

I know quite large gaming sites and exchanges, where almost all deposits and withdrawals of coins are carried out manually (especially for large amounts). This is necessary in order to exclude the possibility of cheaters actions and the use of bugs. It seems to me that it is much easier to pay a salary to a few people than to lose a lot of money due to the malicious actions of cheaters. In any case, from time to time there are failures in the system and it is necessary that there is a person who could fix everything.

My excuse to avoid 0% house edge is that i fear i could get scammed by the house which offer this unusual house edge of 0%. If there is no house edge, the casino can get rekt, therefor no casino will be 100% doing the business without the house edge.

You would really be having that question and doubts in mind on how they do continue to operate if they arent making money.
Its not that they are scam directly but this turn out to be shady and just like others you will really be having that kind of
question on why someone would offer on something that they cant make money.
When it comes to fairness then you can assure since this is a blockchain based type of game.

Yes and therefore, even though it is said to be a 0% house edge but the games offered will still make it difficult for you to determine the correct number. So, whatever percentage of the house edge is offered I don't think it is a problem, because at this time when the gambling platform has become big in its circle then still, people will still play there even though it is a higher house edge.

With all the comments here on this thread, and checking again the site. The owner haven't managed to improve their site yet. So I don't think they can attract players here even if their house edge offering is legit. Sometimes people are not after for the low house edge of the casino but the entertainment they can get from the game. And with their game, don't think that it is enjoyable in the long run.

Agreed, one of the most important things a casino has to do is to ensure that their games are fun and attractive for gamblers, take a look at physical casinos, it is obvious they go out of their way to give a certain atmosphere to their customers, otherwise they are not going to visit the casino a second time if they think it looks cheap regardless of the house edge the casino may give them, and the same is true for online casinos, if anything I could say it is even more important as in an online casino you can watch the same screen for hours and it needs to be attractive otherwise most gamblers will have no interest in returning back.

Building these kinds of sites would be really hard.

Having a 0% house-edge is amazing and all but it is just there standing at one foot and can't do anything. It is better if they could maybe make the games more entertaining and inviting and as you've said, maybe develop and improve more their site. Maybe they could add more games and not just the game that they have right now.

Maybe that is what we need to win when the house has 0%. But still, if that is a gambling game, it is not easy to have a win because the casino will still take the biggest money from other gamblers. A gambler maybe forgets that even if the casino uses 0% house-edge, the gambler is still hard to win. The gamblers only need to enjoy and get entertained in the gambling games and don't think bigger to win.

That is what happens to the gamblers, whether they win or lose. They will still play more and more and not think about the risk of losing money. I agree that the gambling place interface will also make the gamblers feel exciting to play, which can be the reason why the gamblers stay for a long time.

Big or small gambling site, I think it'll be more convenient to be run by couple of persons, like 2 or 3 if it's a small gambling site. Imagine managing it 24/7 all by yourself is no joke. Also it is easier to notice bugs and errors if you have people on it, the more the brains, the better.

And starting even a small gambling site would be better if you'll have business partner(s) so shouldering all the expenses will not be a weight from you. For example is when you're struggling making it famous and reputable, but it turns out the other way around, you'll only lose half of the money you'll have to put if you're just alone running that small gambling site business, so you could try again.

I agree with you, running a hole casino alone seems too much in my opinion. You would need to be available every day of the week, without any day off. Also as a customer on a casino you want to be able to reach customer support when you have problems. It's better to share all this work among a few partners than try to run it all by yourself.

i didnt back read anymore further and id like to ask if the owner still reply on this thread ? why can he just say that his site is already perfect and he dont want any adjustments anymore if thats what he thinks so that people wont expect or will add more request .

those gambler that wants entertainment love to play on higher house edge . the higher the better for them because this provides more excitement and fun .also they love if the casino looks colorful and have a variety of enjoyable games not only pure luck games .

Although these gambling platforms do pay their staff's from house edge and transaction fees in the casino, but, that doesn't mean that those with 0% house edge won't get what it needed for staff's payment if only they will intensify their effort in creating good UI and pleasurable games on their platform, they will generate what will carter for the staff's.

The only gamblers that will play on this particular gambling site are gamblers who are going for profit, but those who want fun and entertainment are likely to go on the gambling site as OP has shown, it lacks a variety, people like to play on gambling sites like Stake.com, Duelbits, Bitvest 777Coin among others with many games to choose from.

I hope you will see this as "Constructive criticism" and not hating. Chain-Bet.com is boring, that's the reason behind avoiding it.
Gambling is more about excitement and experience, something that Chain-Bet.com fails to deliver. It's missing the fast pace of most casinos and games.

Nowadays, there are already a lot of gambling sites and it would really be hard to attract customers unless you are good at advertising your business. Even if they have a 0% house edge, most online gamblers would still probably choose to play on the sites they know. I would agree with you that improving the games, or adding more games would be nice to attract more players but if you don't know how to promote your site well, you would still get less to no customers.

Giveaways and bonuses is not the main reason why people still playing even there is a house edge. Security is the main reason why people still playing on casino with house like many famous casino. Gambler feel comfortable including myself in playing popular casino like duelbits because we can assure that our money is safe there. Giveaways and bonuses has a lot of requirements to claim that's why many gamblers were discourage to get it.

Yes, many gamblers would prefer more active games, and also of course would often play in games with bigger variance even if expected value is lesser compared to 0 % house of edge game (or even to any other, for example people more often looks into jackpot than for gain from mid combos).


With 0 house of edge it will be more like endless game. For example, in this game from OP, the EV is the same as bet - 1 dollar. So you can't win anything in long term but can't lose too.

We have seen all of those gambling sites that had existed which HE is a normal thing and having none will really raise up some eyebrows on why the heck that some sites do offer 0%
and how the hell they would able to make money if they do offer this one.

Even if they do put up 1-2% then it wont really change a thing because these type of games doesnt really get too much interest.If this is some sort of DICE or roullete then
theres a possibility for blockchain games then its hard.

Avoiding this game doesnt only stuck out just because it does 0 house edge but also the game offered isnt nice at all.

Only some people who want to search for gambling games can challenge them and get more tension when playing gambling games. People can feel if they need to change the game or still use that game to enjoy their time in gambling games. But maybe I think the giveaways and bonuses are attracting people to join that site.

Aside from the house edge the only multiplier available in their game is x16 they're basically relying on the bad luck of their gamblers due to the low win probability.

Withdrawal fees could be a good alternative to take some cut but it'll take a lot of transactions/bets before it becomes significant.

Being away for 4 year is a long time and within this time other blockchain gambling industry have witness different good development.

0% house edge is a good promotion but you still need marketing to bring it to gamblers attention after 4 years relaunch.

Adding more games and features will be great for the project as you can see, it has only one game those who are looking for entertainment will play here but they will not stay long to play, they want a variety of games, they prefer gambling sites with a lot of features even with a house edge, not all gamblers are looking for money.

As you say, it's just a promotion but can't make the casino keep going if it will forever like that.

And you're right with the marketing. The known casinos doesn't stop marketing even if their casinos are already popular.

Of course, players are not dumb enough to easily get hook on such sweet words (even though it never existed in the first place). As the owner, make your brand popular as much as possible, upgrade your services as well so that you will get outstanding reviews from the pioneers who tried your site. The news will spread around and that's the time when you can expect an increase on your market. Gambling business is way more than a "0% house edge" phrase.
What? What's with the connection of variation of games and the willingness of players to earn money? I don't get it. As far as I'm concern, all players have the hopes to earn (even the slightest) money in their mind that's why they go in there. Even the ones who just wanna have fun are subconsciously wanting a taste of winning of course.

Many things have changed after 4 years, and he needs to search for the trend now. He can not stick to his plan because he will be too old to follow the trend. The promotion will be good to start while he can edit something on his site and add something new so when people visit his site, they will see a different than a few years ago.

But looking at the current bank roll of this site, they only have 9.9745 LTC, roughly $1200 only. So if in case there will be a winner and hit a good winning results, they will be bankrupt easily. Now, the chain-bet needs to strategize how they can get players and sustain their interest. Because this kind of game, I don't think you can keep the interest of players for long time.

Promotional offers hardly last more than one or two months. That said, online casinos have other avenues for funds apart from the house edge. One option is to g for advertisements. Most of the online sites avoid this, because it can be irritating for the gamblers. Another avenue is from deposit/withdrawal fee. An online casino can operate profitably, if they waive off the house edge, but at the same time slightly increase the deposit/withdrawal fee.

Advertisements? that's the last that I can think of.

I don't see any casino that has advertisement branding on their platform because they only rely on their product. It is a fact that having ads appearing on while playing is very much annoying.

That's why most casinos don't do it.

No matter what, the casino can search for other incomes, and they will still promote offers to many gamblers who do not come to their site. But some gamblers will not avoid a game with a 0% house edge, especially for a gambler who search for pleasure. Once a gambler found a place to play gambling and feel comfortable, they will not think much about the offers or the other promotional from the casino. They will think that it is a bonus for them to stay for a longer time.

I don't get it, casinos makes money through the house edge, that's the bread and butter of their business, without that they wouldn't make money. House edge has become a norms in casinos, and the competition here is the lowest house edge the more gamblers will play with them but never heard gamblers play in a casino because of no house edge, in fact gamblers might doubt if the casino is legitimate or not.

I guess they are using a different approach for monetizing website right now, and as declared by OP this is just another marketing promotion... or a way to build a community behind the site.
In this case it's not a question to be or not be legitimate casino...

This game it's very hard. Make the right prediction with too many possibilities and no hints... plus you can't have some "combo" betting like classic roulette (colors / pairs /groups of 8 etc).

Exactly, that is what I mean. It is just a promotion from the casino. And if the casino uses that way, I think they already have another strategy for how they can make more money from the gamblers. The casino will always make money, and we know that. But they will not tell us how they are going to make money, and we do not know how much money they already have used one strategy.

Has become the norm? It was always this way from the beginning. Casino isn't a charity organization, it's a business, activity that offers you some services while getting profit from it.  Has anyone ever seen casino that offers ads places to others? No, so let's forget this monetization method. Don't tell me that casino will run on donations too, one user here had this idea :D  Also, people don't gamble on 0 house edge casinos because they don't exist and won't exist. If we want casino with 0% house edge, then we should change rules in casino products, for example: 1. Roulette must be played without ZERO. 2. If person busted at first but then the dealer followed too, then money should be returned...

If anyone agrees to do that, then 21th century will be the heaven of gamblers.

Making a 0 edge but also 0 chances of winning hehehe.

Casino business over  the years even upon the memory of our grandies ,Gambling operators gain from house Edge .

Maybe those Sites are just having a different approaches but in the end?it is our Money that they will surely tale.So better look for the fair casino you'll find not some misleading one.

According to the information provided by the OP they are into the business back in the early days of cryptocurrency and they offer the 0 house edge to give back to the community but they don't understand the crypto world is changed and gambling enthusiasts don't believe in free money traded with an unknown coin/site that's not safe.

I agree, the only ones that are going to put attention to a casino like that are the pros, many people that gamble cannot tell you the house edge they are facing in their favorite games, they are playing the game to get some fun and see if they get lucky, they do not want to crunch numbers to see if game A is a slightly better option than game B, which is why the casinos put so much attention to develop new games so they can keep their players happy by always offering something new.

Yes, our money will be for them, especially if we lose so much money. They can use different approaches to attract more gamblers to come, and they can use 0 house edge for their strategy. I am sure the casino will understand that the crypto world is change and the gambler also change from time to time. Many new people become a gambler because they see an advertisement on social media or other websites. I am sure the casino can get more people to playing gambling on their site.

Speaking of different approaches, the casino team providing a cheap site which are the approach used by crypto scammers in the initial offering market is the first capital no for me cause if they don't have the money to have a marketable site then they don't have the money to pay the winner on their site and if they paid game winners is the coin they are going to pay with still activity or have no trading activity.
This needs to be put into consideration.

Yes, if they can offer good service, fairness in their game, promo, almost instantly withdraw and reasonable tx fee for withdrawals tx.

The approach that the casino will do is how they can give big offers to the gamblers. It could attract the gamblers to come to the site to play gambling, making the gamblers not realize if the site is real. They will only found that the site can provide them happiness, enjoyment, and excitement. They will not think about house edge, fairness, and else, because they already found what they want.

Let's put it this way. There are two sites and let's call the sites chain bet and the other one is casino bet for example, both casino offer 0% house edge but offer different games. Gamblers choose casino bet because gamblers find the games fit to their criteria and chain bet kibd of old school or no longer a trend even if the design is good.

Well, the problem with that is the fact that if 0% house edge is an important factor in your decision, then you should think about how are these two websites that you used in your example are earning money from their website then.

In other words you have to take a look at their withdrawal fees for different assets and see for yourself if they have no other hidden fees and then based on that make an accurate comparison between them, because it simply can not be true that a casino have 0% income from its website and they are making money from you using their website one way or another.

One of the factors when it comes to interest is on the game that had been offered because you can really make out some comparison between numbers of players whom do play in the site on where what type of game had been offered.

For blockchain type of games then we cant deny that this one isn't really an interesting type of game or for someone to gamble and even if it do offers zero house edge, it wont really be having that kind of interest that it can possibly give.

Type of game is one of the factors when it comes to websites success.

But this is if we are talking about bitcoin blockchain. In Ethereum blockchain with 15 sec blocks it's much more attractive for people. But with Eth the problem is transaction fee (now it's like 1.2 dollars per fast transaction). Sometimes it can be too big not even for gambling but for anything other too.

If we are talking about sites, i can't imagine 0 house of edge in games like slots or dice (even with zero EV such casino would lose money due to host costs and so on)

They can offer zero house edge in chain games but I don't think a casino will offer 0% house edge in dice and card games, because they are going to lose if they are going to do that, that is the kind of house edge that they want but I don't there is a brave gambling operator that can offer 0% house edge in a dice game.

They will have no take on those games if they will implement zero house edge for those.

Before I think there was edgeless and I dont know if they are still operating today. But IIRC, they were the one that offered it before or one of the casinos that offered it before if they were not the only one.

It's not like that, what casinos avoid is not the type of game, but the category of the game.

Most of the casinos that provide a 0% edge will avoid games that are purely based on luck, because with a 0% edge in these games the casino will not be able to get a profit, even in the long run.

Usually, they will offer 0% on skill-based games, because they can still get profit from gamblers with imperfect gameplay.

Maybe that is what the casino will offer to the gamblers and invite more gamblers to play on their site. At least, that can be another strategy from the gambling site to attract more gamblers. But I guess that will not increase their chance to have the luck to win the games because the luck will never come to them if they do not have the right time.

I don't think the world has changed. It seems to me that people have never confused the concept of "activity based on enthusiasm" and some activity related to money, where reliability comes first. The creators of this project need to clearly understand what audience they are targeting - either enthusiasts or serious gamblers, it seems to me that the combination will not work here.

Yes it can help them to attract other people to play in their gambling site, offering what other website do not offers is a kind of strategy that everyone should try, but they need to improve their website UI, Security, in order for me to play on their website. I think having a best security and good website design can attract more and more people in their website.

As long as the casino can manage their website properly, I am sure that they will get more members to play on their website. The interface on the website will be the important things that they need to care about, so they will that opportunity to improve their services to their members. The security of the site will be the other important things that they need to have to make sure and convince their members that they can protect their member's accounts.

Yeah, that's on point.

They can't control luck-based games result but still can make the chance of winning go into their favor. While in skill-based, they have more control with the results on it or at least make the odds lower which is still in favor of them even if the gambler wins.

Even a casino with a 0% house edge can generate profits, one of the easiest ways to do this is with their size of their bankroll, if the bankroll they have is huge and the maximum they allow you to bet is kind of low then over the long term they will beat you simply because they have more money, in a way this is similar to what happens in trading in which a whale can keep holding their coins for longer simply because he has more coins and more money while small investors need to sell their positions so they do not lose everything.

Are you comparing gambling house to trading? Actually i didnt get your point on telling that making 0% house edge would still make out some profits in house side via means on having a big bankroll?  ??? ???
This isnt some sort of PvP or something.

The only way i could  see for house to make profits is either on house edge or would get out commission out of those bets or making some commision on withdrawals.
I dont get the point on how bankroll do affect that one.

Game being offered on here isnt something that is entertaining thats why it isnt a surprised on why people arent interested at all.

Exactly.
It doesn't important if the sites give 0% house to not but the most important is we gonna see how the owners giving importance to their players and assure's security for them. And OP asking we ignored their site that offering 0% house edge is just because gamblers might see this out from reality and a scam site. The gambler will never be a foolish one to have to use those gambling sites that full of negative feedback, we are simply making ourselves at risk if we tried.

security should come first not the design . what can design do when your account will got hack and lost all your stored balance . house edge is important too, this can come first before or can come next after the security .

as we noticed , all gambling sites showcase or highlight their respective house edge on thier banners and announcement threads because they also knew that gamblers are looking for this before they play  but till now i havent tried this site so i wont give feedback yet .

If that casino is one of the reputable gambling sites that offers a 0% house edge, I think I will not avoid it, but I will test my luck to play any gambling games. We should avoid using the gambling sites which does not have good feedback from the members, so we can prevent the scam that can happen later. Many gambling sites can turn into the scam in the future, especially if they are having a problem many times without any solution to solve the problem.

But isn't it better if they can lure both ? they attract Serious gambler while the Enthusiasts is also enjoying ?

And also the Enthusiast Gambler is prone to becoming serious gambler ,once they have given a chance to Win a very decent amount ,the desire of enjoyment will chance in future to desire in Winning and gaining.

I agree to the idea of not investing or playing into a gambling site if it doesn't have any suffice feedbacks. There are a lot of rising sites that says they offer a good edge or like making heir image looks competetively among others. And also, new users or players are also into it. In this case people must be more aware of the background or some feedbacks aof a specific gambling sites in order to avoid some mistakes or what we called newbie mistakes simply lacking of knowledge in gambling. Some gambling sites today is scam because I able to experience recently. And in that situation, I able to be more aware of some new sites that offer good in advertising.

There wouldnt be any feedbacks if there were no people who would tend to play in the site and to know that majority of sites do start on anything like this.
If some do love to join or test out new sites then they should be aware on the possible risk that they've been dealing. Not all new does indicate scam but
if there are some things that really put you in doubt specially if it offers 0% house edge and do question on how they hell they do make out money as a
business then that would really be putting up a big question mark in your mind.

But be careful because there will be a gambling site that paid some people to give good reviews to attract the other gamblers to come and use their site to gamble. By searching for more details about the gambling site, especially for the new gambling site, people will know if that site really gives the best services to them, and the site will not try to scam them. Our job is to find out more about the site, whether if that site is a new or old gambling site.

But in gambling business everything talks about Money and nothing care about feeling ,The creator of each Businesses Looks for the possibilities in which they can lure gamblers in any kind , either Enthusiastic or Serious gambler what matters is how much they will spend and how long they will cater the site.
So what matters most 0% house edge is really something that Players might understand first than just taking advantage of the offer because Behind this freebies are the real objective on how Casino owners will cater big profit while pretending to be Gambler friendly sites.

A 0% house edge is really hard to believe, most of the casinos are operating because they are acquiring fees from transactions, as well as having a good house edge which will enable them to run the business further and to pay for taxes. If a casino has 0% house edge, I wonder how they will cope up with losses from gamblers, perhaps, they should have a mechanism to generate their profit from games.

In addition, we can verify if the casinos are scam or not if they are allowing withdrawal from huge earnings because if not, they might just give us excuses, and will just take our money away.

Well, it's a quite prettty game to play, never seen your website neither tried it before. Moreover, having 0% house edge means that we are equal in terms of chances which just makes the game itself more funnier to play. I'd try it in the future if i had any chances. Good luck on the new gambling business.

This is one proof and the reason why not many users are playing on your platform, because of the lack of promotion so that even if you offer a game with 0% house edge it will still not be an attraction. One of the things that is lacking than this is the promotion step, when the promotion has been carried out then it is not only 0% house edge, at least with the promotion even though you offer a game that has a house edge, then of course with the promotion carried out it will make many users aware of your platform and be an attraction of course.

but have you seen the website that the OP is promoting? i guess, even with promotion going on, i dont think many gamblers will stick to play on that platform. it is very dull and the chance of winning is really slim. if you play once, i dont think you'll gonna play again.
the OP should have read some of the suggestions of the users here and at least apply on their site. the game is simple but even offering with 0% he, i dont think gamblers will go back again and again. they need to add something to their site.

Talking about myself, it's not mainly about the promotional stuff but you can consider that rule valid. Even, the classic promotions aren't gathering any "great" interest. There must be a creative way in order to have players on that platform. I would recommend hiring Youtubers, doing a giveaway or allowing some free bets for a certain amount of money here in Bitcointalk for example. Bettors have their own platforms, not every player is ready to try new Bookmakers/Betting platforms so try to gain player's interest first before having any hype toward these new games, earn that interest.

When i said the crypto world changed, i was referring to what gamblers particularly on this forum watch for before trying out a gambling site is different to before when the OP site gained gamblers attention back then.

You are right.

You understand what i am trying to say here because the creators of this project was trying to catch both enthusiasts and serious gamblers. And, they plan to target enthusiasts some change need to be done from their end.



In business the money aspect is important but that doesn't mean nothing care about feelings if that's how it is some gambling site won't have integrated features to help gambling addiction or also open a free contest on this forum where people free money.

Of course, thats the number one priority of every long existence business.

The OP has explained the offer but it doesn't seem fair from my end.

It is better but not for what they offer because serious gamblers cant accept their terms of payment cause they usually want to withdraw to be treated honestly and fast.

Yes, you can find the two in a single individual.

The casino is in fact playing against you so it is a casino vs the player, however if you cannot see it let me give you an example, lets suppose that both of us are playing poker and that in average our skill levels are the same, but there is a difference the bet limits are 1 dollar and I have a bankroll of 10 dollars while you have 100k, who do you think has the biggest chance of wiping out the capital of their opponent? It should be obvious my chance of winning should be zero over the long term while your chances are 100% despite no one having an edge over the other.

One can place as many bets as they want, that would be included in a single block. It is about when you broadcast your bet transaction.