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Author Topic: Gamblers! What is your excuse to avoid a game with 0% House Edge?  (Read 1615 times)
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December 29, 2020, 05:33:13 AM
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Yes it can help them to attract other people to play in their gambling site, offering what other website do not offers is a kind of strategy that everyone should try, but they need to improve their website UI, Security, in order for me to play on their website. I think having a best security and good website design can attract more and more people in their website.

As long as the casino can manage their website properly, I am sure that they will get more members to play on their website. The interface on the website will be the important things that they need to care about, so they will that opportunity to improve their services to their members. The security of the site will be the other important things that they need to have to make sure and convince their members that they can protect their member's accounts.
Exactly.
It doesn't important if the sites give 0% house to not but the most important is we gonna see how the owners giving importance to their players and assure's security for them. And OP asking we ignored their site that offering 0% house edge is just because gamblers might see this out from reality and a scam site. The gambler will never be a foolish one to have to use those gambling sites that full of negative feedback, we are simply making ourselves at risk if we tried.
security should come first not the design . what can design do when your account will got hack and lost all your stored balance . house edge is important too, this can come first before or can come next after the security .

as we noticed , all gambling sites showcase or highlight their respective house edge on thier banners and announcement threads because they also knew that gamblers are looking for this before they play  but till now i havent tried this site so i wont give feedback yet .
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December 29, 2020, 07:24:42 AM
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Exactly.
It doesn't important if the sites give 0% house to not but the most important is we gonna see how the owners giving importance to their players and assure's security for them. And OP asking we ignored their site that offering 0% house edge is just because gamblers might see this out from reality and a scam site. The gambler will never be a foolish one to have to use those gambling sites that full of negative feedback, we are simply making ourselves at risk if we tried.

If that casino is one of the reputable gambling sites that offers a 0% house edge, I think I will not avoid it, but I will test my luck to play any gambling games. We should avoid using the gambling sites which does not have good feedback from the members, so we can prevent the scam that can happen later. Many gambling sites can turn into the scam in the future, especially if they are having a problem many times without any solution to solve the problem.

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December 29, 2020, 07:42:20 AM
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According to the information provided by the OP they are into the business back in the early days of cryptocurrency and they offer the 0 house edge to give back to the community but they don't understand the crypto world is changed and gambling enthusiasts don't believe in free money traded with an unknown coin/site that's not safe.

I don't think the world has changed. It seems to me that people have never confused the concept of "activity based on enthusiasm" and some activity related to money, where reliability comes first. The creators of this project need to clearly understand what audience they are targeting - either enthusiasts or serious gamblers, it seems to me that the combination will not work here.
But isn't it better if they can lure both ? they attract Serious gambler while the Enthusiasts is also enjoying ?

And also the Enthusiast Gambler is prone to becoming serious gambler ,once they have given a chance to Win a very decent amount ,the desire of enjoyment will chance in future to desire in Winning and gaining.

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December 29, 2020, 12:56:08 PM
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Exactly.
It doesn't important if the sites give 0% house to not but the most important is we gonna see how the owners giving importance to their players and assure's security for them. And OP asking we ignored their site that offering 0% house edge is just because gamblers might see this out from reality and a scam site. The gambler will never be a foolish one to have to use those gambling sites that full of negative feedback, we are simply making ourselves at risk if we tried.

If that casino is one of the reputable gambling sites that offers a 0% house edge, I think I will not avoid it, but I will test my luck to play any gambling games. We should avoid using the gambling sites which does not have good feedback from the members, so we can prevent the scam that can happen later. Many gambling sites can turn into the scam in the future, especially if they are having a problem many times without any solution to solve the problem.

I agree to the idea of not investing or playing into a gambling site if it doesn't have any suffice feedbacks. There are a lot of rising sites that says they offer a good edge or like making heir image looks competetively among others. And also, new users or players are also into it. In this case people must be more aware of the background or some feedbacks aof a specific gambling sites in order to avoid some mistakes or what we called newbie mistakes simply lacking of knowledge in gambling. Some gambling sites today is scam because I able to experience recently. And in that situation, I able to be more aware of some new sites that offer good in advertising.
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December 29, 2020, 11:29:53 PM
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Exactly.
It doesn't important if the sites give 0% house to not but the most important is we gonna see how the owners giving importance to their players and assure's security for them. And OP asking we ignored their site that offering 0% house edge is just because gamblers might see this out from reality and a scam site. The gambler will never be a foolish one to have to use those gambling sites that full of negative feedback, we are simply making ourselves at risk if we tried.

If that casino is one of the reputable gambling sites that offers a 0% house edge, I think I will not avoid it, but I will test my luck to play any gambling games. We should avoid using the gambling sites which does not have good feedback from the members, so we can prevent the scam that can happen later. Many gambling sites can turn into the scam in the future, especially if they are having a problem many times without any solution to solve the problem.

I agree to the idea of not investing or playing into a gambling site if it doesn't have any suffice feedbacks. There are a lot of rising sites that says they offer a good edge or like making heir image looks competetively among others. And also, new users or players are also into it. In this case people must be more aware of the background or some feedbacks aof a specific gambling sites in order to avoid some mistakes or what we called newbie mistakes simply lacking of knowledge in gambling. Some gambling sites today is scam because I able to experience recently. And in that situation, I able to be more aware of some new sites that offer good in advertising.
There wouldnt be any feedbacks if there were no people who would tend to play in the site and to know that majority of sites do start on anything like this.
If some do love to join or test out new sites then they should be aware on the possible risk that they've been dealing. Not all new does indicate scam but
if there are some things that really put you in doubt specially if it offers 0% house edge and do question on how they hell they do make out money as a
business then that would really be putting up a big question mark in your mind.

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December 30, 2020, 07:49:55 AM
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I agree to the idea of not investing or playing into a gambling site if it doesn't have any suffice feedbacks. There are a lot of rising sites that says they offer a good edge or like making heir image looks competetively among others. And also, new users or players are also into it. In this case people must be more aware of the background or some feedbacks aof a specific gambling sites in order to avoid some mistakes or what we called newbie mistakes simply lacking of knowledge in gambling. Some gambling sites today is scam because I able to experience recently. And in that situation, I able to be more aware of some new sites that offer good in advertising.

But be careful because there will be a gambling site that paid some people to give good reviews to attract the other gamblers to come and use their site to gamble. By searching for more details about the gambling site, especially for the new gambling site, people will know if that site really gives the best services to them, and the site will not try to scam them. Our job is to find out more about the site, whether if that site is a new or old gambling site.

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December 30, 2020, 08:16:15 AM
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According to the information provided by the OP they are into the business back in the early days of cryptocurrency and they offer the 0 house edge to give back to the community but they don't understand the crypto world is changed and gambling enthusiasts don't believe in free money traded with an unknown coin/site that's not safe.

I don't think the world has changed. It seems to me that people have never confused the concept of "activity based on enthusiasm" and some activity related to money, where reliability comes first. The creators of this project need to clearly understand what audience they are targeting - either enthusiasts or serious gamblers, it seems to me that the combination will not work here.
But in gambling business everything talks about Money and nothing care about feeling ,The creator of each Businesses Looks for the possibilities in which they can lure gamblers in any kind , either Enthusiastic or Serious gambler what matters is how much they will spend and how long they will cater the site.
So what matters most 0% house edge is really something that Players might understand first than just taking advantage of the offer because Behind this freebies are the real objective on how Casino owners will cater big profit while pretending to be Gambler friendly sites.









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December 31, 2020, 03:01:00 PM
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If that casino is one of the reputable gambling sites that offers a 0% house edge, I think I will not avoid it, but I will test my luck to play any gambling games. We should avoid using the gambling sites which does not have good feedback from the members, so we can prevent the scam that can happen later. Many gambling sites can turn into the scam in the future, especially if they are having a problem many times without any solution to solve the problem.

A 0% house edge is really hard to believe, most of the casinos are operating because they are acquiring fees from transactions, as well as having a good house edge which will enable them to run the business further and to pay for taxes. If a casino has 0% house edge, I wonder how they will cope up with losses from gamblers, perhaps, they should have a mechanism to generate their profit from games.

In addition, we can verify if the casinos are scam or not if they are allowing withdrawal from huge earnings because if not, they might just give us excuses, and will just take our money away.
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December 31, 2020, 06:10:23 PM
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Well, it's a quite prettty game to play, never seen your website neither tried it before. Moreover, having 0% house edge means that we are equal in terms of chances which just makes the game itself more funnier to play. I'd try it in the future if i had any chances. Good luck on the new gambling business.
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December 31, 2020, 06:31:32 PM
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Well, it's a quite prettty game to play, never seen your website neither tried it before. Moreover, having 0% house edge means that we are equal in terms of chances which just makes the game itself more funnier to play. I'd try it in the future if i had any chances. Good luck on the new gambling business.
This is one proof and the reason why not many users are playing on your platform, because of the lack of promotion so that even if you offer a game with 0% house edge it will still not be an attraction. One of the things that is lacking than this is the promotion step, when the promotion has been carried out then it is not only 0% house edge, at least with the promotion even though you offer a game that has a house edge, then of course with the promotion carried out it will make many users aware of your platform and be an attraction of course.

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December 31, 2020, 08:36:45 PM
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Well, it's a quite prettty game to play, never seen your website neither tried it before. Moreover, having 0% house edge means that we are equal in terms of chances which just makes the game itself more funnier to play. I'd try it in the future if i had any chances. Good luck on the new gambling business.
This is one proof and the reason why not many users are playing on your platform, because of the lack of promotion so that even if you offer a game with 0% house edge it will still not be an attraction. One of the things that is lacking than this is the promotion step, when the promotion has been carried out then it is not only 0% house edge, at least with the promotion even though you offer a game that has a house edge, then of course with the promotion carried out it will make many users aware of your platform and be an attraction of course.

but have you seen the website that the OP is promoting? i guess, even with promotion going on, i dont think many gamblers will stick to play on that platform. it is very dull and the chance of winning is really slim. if you play once, i dont think you'll gonna play again.
the OP should have read some of the suggestions of the users here and at least apply on their site. the game is simple but even offering with 0% he, i dont think gamblers will go back again and again. they need to add something to their site.

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Well, it's a quite prettty game to play, never seen your website neither tried it before. Moreover, having 0% house edge means that we are equal in terms of chances which just makes the game itself more funnier to play. I'd try it in the future if i had any chances. Good luck on the new gambling business.
This is one proof and the reason why not many users are playing on your platform, because of the lack of promotion so that even if you offer a game with 0% house edge it will still not be an attraction. One of the things that is lacking than this is the promotion step, when the promotion has been carried out then it is not only 0% house edge, at least with the promotion even though you offer a game that has a house edge, then of course with the promotion carried out it will make many users aware of your platform and be an attraction of course.

but have you seen the website that the OP is promoting? i guess, even with promotion going on, i dont think many gamblers will stick to play on that platform. it is very dull and the chance of winning is really slim. if you play once, i dont think you'll gonna play again.
the OP should have read some of the suggestions of the users here and at least apply on their site. the game is simple but even offering with 0% he, i dont think gamblers will go back again and again. they need to add something to their site.
Talking about myself, it's not mainly about the promotional stuff but you can consider that rule valid. Even, the classic promotions aren't gathering any "great" interest. There must be a creative way in order to have players on that platform. I would recommend hiring Youtubers, doing a giveaway or allowing some free bets for a certain amount of money here in Bitcointalk for example. Bettors have their own platforms, not every player is ready to try new Bookmakers/Betting platforms so try to gain player's interest first before having any hype toward these new games, earn that interest.
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According to the information provided by the OP they are into the business back in the early days of cryptocurrency and they offer the 0 house edge to give back to the community but they don't understand the crypto world is changed and gambling enthusiasts don't believe in free money traded with an unknown coin/site that's not safe.

I don't think the world has changed.
When i said the crypto world changed, i was referring to what gamblers particularly on this forum watch for before trying out a gambling site is different to before when the OP site gained gamblers attention back then.

It seems to me that people have never confused the concept of "activity based on enthusiasm" and some activity related to money, where reliability comes first.
You are right.

The creators of this project need to clearly understand what audience they are targeting - either enthusiasts or serious gamblers, it seems to me that the combination will not work here.
You understand what i am trying to say here because the creators of this project was trying to catch both enthusiasts and serious gamblers. And, they plan to target enthusiasts some change need to be done from their end.



But in gambling business everything talks about Money and nothing care about feeling ,
In business the money aspect is important but that doesn't mean nothing care about feelings if that's how it is some gambling site won't have integrated features to help gambling addiction or also open a free contest on this forum where people free money.

The creator of each Businesses Looks for the possibilities in which they can lure gamblers in any kind , either Enthusiastic or Serious gambler what matters is how much they will spend and how long they will cater the site.
Of course, thats the number one priority of every long existence business.

So what matters most 0% house edge is really something that Players might understand first than just taking advantage of the offer
The OP has explained the offer but it doesn't seem fair from my end.

But isn't it better if they can lure both ? they attract Serious gambler while the Enthusiasts is also enjoying ?
It is better but not for what they offer because serious gamblers cant accept their terms of payment cause they usually want to withdraw to be treated honestly and fast.

And also the Enthusiast Gambler is prone to becoming serious gambler
Yes, you can find the two in a single individual.

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January 01, 2021, 09:10:50 PM
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Marketing does really give a big role when it comes to success of a certain site but we should also consider the fact about on the games that had been offered.
Lets say that you are active or generous on making some marketing or making it too big and a catchy one but the games you we're offering isnt something that
do sparks out players or bettors interest? Then what would happen? Those funds that had been used would really come to waste for sure.
This is why we should make out considerations or balances on making out decisions.If you do offer a game that doesnt really have much demand then
why would focus on advertisement and spend lots on it ?

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January 02, 2021, 08:10:56 PM
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Even a casino with a 0% house edge can generate profits, one of the easiest ways to do this is with their size of their bankroll, if the bankroll they have is huge and the maximum they allow you to bet is kind of low then over the long term they will beat you simply because they have more money, in a way this is similar to what happens in trading in which a whale can keep holding their coins for longer simply because he has more coins and more money while small investors need to sell their positions so they do not lose everything.

Are you comparing gambling house to trading? Actually i didnt get your point on telling that making 0% house edge would still make out some profits in house side via means on having a big bankroll?  Huh Huh
This isnt some sort of PvP or something.

The only way i could  see for house to make profits is either on house edge or would get out commission out of those bets or making some commision on withdrawals.
I dont get the point on how bankroll do affect that one.

Game being offered on here isnt something that is entertaining thats why it isnt a surprised on why people arent interested at all.

The casino is in fact playing against you so it is a casino vs the player, however if you cannot see it let me give you an example, lets suppose that both of us are playing poker and that in average our skill levels are the same, but there is a difference the bet limits are 1 dollar and I have a bankroll of 10 dollars while you have 100k, who do you think has the biggest chance of wiping out the capital of their opponent? It should be obvious my chance of winning should be zero over the long term while your chances are 100% despite no one having an edge over the other.
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@OP, the times were different 4 years back and BTC wasn't even $5k at that time I guess, so alts were just nuts. Now, when things have changed, everyone is trying to collect as much crypto as possible. In the middle of that, if you ask why people are not gambling at your site even with a 0% house edge, I'd just say that they're too scared to bet on a game that gives a 16x "only" when their block hash's last letter/number will match their prediction. For that, one can't go and make multiple selections all at once (maybe reduce the prize money 4 times if one selects more than 1 letter/number). Try to make it more easy for the gamblers as we will be happy with some house edge but can't go and bet big knowing that the price of these valuable coins can rise any moment from now.
One can place as many bets as they want, that would be included in a single block. It is about when you broadcast your bet transaction.

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