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Title: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: suzanne5223 on January 07, 2021, 10:09:23 PM


After surviving an early knockdown by Luke Campbell on last Saturday night fight which he later defeated Campbell by TKO in the seventh round with a left hook to won the interim WBC lightweight title.
A day after he was after Gervonta Davis he said "I really want to be a man of my word" that he doesn't have time to celebrate his last fight with Campbell and beseech Davis to accept his challenge. However, Garcia vowed to knock out Davis within the second rounds and Davis replied through his Instagram page saying "I rather handle shit wit violence instead of speaking!" (https://www.instagram.com/p/CJrND_BAWGo/)

For those who don't know Garcia is after Davis for years now.

What is your thought about this unique fighter in the lightweight?



Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: chaser15 on January 07, 2021, 10:44:27 PM
Should be an explosive fight as both boxers are undefeated and currently reigning in the LightWeight division.

Garcia won via KO in his last 5 fights which is impressive and 3 of those are finished under Round 2-3.

But even with that, a warning to Davis that the fight will end in 2 Rounds is totally crazy and insane. For the record, Davis' last 15 fights are all KO. This will be settled in a split decision I think.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: AmoreJaz on January 07, 2021, 10:53:34 PM
Should be an explosive fight as both boxers are undefeated and currently reigning in the LightWeight division.

Garcia won via KO in his last 5 fights which is impressive and 3 of those are finished under Round 2-3.

But even with that, a warning to Davis that the fight will end in 2 Rounds is totally crazy and insane. For the record, Davis' last 15 fights are all KO. This will be settled in a split decision I think.

both records are impressive and if this match will come to reality, your money will be worth spending on this one. as garcia is asking for this match from davis and saying that he will knockout davis in two rounds.  :o can he really deliver once inside the ring? you can read his statement on this article below =

Gervonta Davis Fires Back at Ryan Garcia: 'I Rather Handle S--t Wit Violence' (https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2925578-gervonta-davis-fires-back-at-ryan-garcia-i-rather-handle-s-t-wit-violence)


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: rhomelmabini on January 07, 2021, 11:04:47 PM
both records are impressive and if this match will come to reality, your money will be worth spending on this one. as garcia is asking for this match from davis and saying that he will knockout davis in two rounds.  :o can he really deliver once inside the ring? you can read his statement on this article below =
That link was already in the OP. Well, might be confidence as he was quick and has long reach over Davis, I'd rather bite that tongue yet until they get to the real match. There's still danger on Garcia's side since Davis is quick too and the guy has more experience over him, impressive record as well for Davis having that 96% accuracy on KO%.

You can check the stats here: https://box.live/fights/davis-vs-garcia/


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: agustina2 on January 07, 2021, 11:17:22 PM
Garcia is undoubtedly strong but he needs to shut his mouth first and do all the works once they fight in the ring.

2 rounds knockout as a warning is not appropriate against an undefeated fighter in his same division. Davis will make sure that won't happen as I don't believe that will happen too. Maybe a knockout on Round 5-7 but not on Round 2.

If Garcia will able to do it in Round 2 then that's the time he needs to brag about his achievement.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: Ryker1 on January 07, 2021, 11:21:58 PM
Well, I dont see the schedule of the fight, can you include the OP?
It seems Garcia will win again in this match, he is a very aggressive fighter, in fact, he said this in the interview with Davis. ["Don't worry, it's going to be quick"]. In this line, -- he showed that he is very obsessed to beat David in this match after he was knockdown, Campbell. With a zero loss I still in favor of Garcia, he is a solid fighter and a very confident fighter which could be the reason he did not lose.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: stomachgrowls on January 07, 2021, 11:44:24 PM
Garcia is undoubtedly strong but he needs to shut his mouth first and do all the works once they fight in the ring.

2 rounds knockout as a warning is not appropriate against an undefeated fighter in his same division. Davis will make sure that won't happen as I don't believe that will happen too. Maybe a knockout on Round 5-7 but not on Round 2.

If Garcia will able to do it in Round 2 then that's the time he needs to brag about his achievement.
He's just too confident and i dont like those kind of fighters on where their mouth is too big in post-fight. Real thing happens when they are both in the ring.

2 rounds knockdown? He hadnt checked out on how strong his opponent. Of course Davis wont really allow for that thing to happen.Both are heavy punchers.

This will differ on reach where Garcia does have 70" and Davis has 67 but it wouldnt really much of an issue.I do see for some knockout in 6th-8th.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: Kemarit on January 08, 2021, 02:08:01 AM
There are no official date of the fight, but it's not early to discuss how the fight with two of the best 135 lbs we have so far. As expected, they will go to their social media to create a lot of buzz and obviously, this fight could only take place if their respective managers sit down first and come up with the purse split.

Hard to see where the fight will go, still 50-50 for me. Ryan has advantage on height, but Davis has power as well. So let's see and hope that both of them can fight this year.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: TravelMug on January 08, 2021, 02:12:15 AM
Well, I dont see the schedule of the fight, can you include the OP?

Because they are just fighting in public, so this is just pure speculation as of this day.

It seems Garcia will win again in this match, he is a very aggressive fighter, in fact, he said this in the interview with Davis. ["Don't worry, it's going to be quick"]. In this line, -- he showed that he is very obsessed to beat David in this match after he was knockdown, Campbell. With a zero loss I still in favor of Garcia, he is a solid fighter and a very confident fighter which could be the reason he did not lose.

Very confident Garcia of course he is coming from a win, but it won't be easy beating Davis here. The guy is quick as well and has a defense similar to Floyd. Both of them have powerful left hook so I think whichever lands a perfect shot will get knockout of knockdown and that could spell the difference on who is going to win in this fight.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: bbc.reporter on January 08, 2021, 03:57:20 AM
Is this fight going to be a certainty this year or did @suzanne5223 only speculate that this would happen this year? The best of the best in boxing usually avoid each other or take the negotitations very long similar to Floyd versus Pacman.

Another fight that should be given to the fans is Terrence Crawford versus Errol Spence.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: mu_enrico on January 08, 2021, 05:39:04 AM
Since Garcia has recently fought Campbell, the fight could take at least four months before it can happen IMO.
Personally, I'm not too fond of a babyface fighter, and Davis is more experienced and kind of seems stronger (not racist btw lol).


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: Vaculin on January 08, 2021, 06:53:19 AM
Since Garcia has recently fought Campbell, the fight could take at least four months before it can happen IMO.
Personally, I'm not too fond of a babyface fighter, and Davis is more experienced and kind of seems stronger (not racist btw lol).
That's why this is a fun match up because every fighter has their fans, I'm wondering who is the favorite in this fight but I'm here to back Garcia, not because of his baby face but because I trust his power.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: peter0425 on January 08, 2021, 07:41:36 AM


After surviving an early knockdown by Luke Campbell on last Saturday night fight which he later defeated Campbell by TKO in the seventh round with a left hook to won the interim WBC lightweight title.
A day after he was after Gervonta Davis he said "I really want to be a man of my word" that he doesn't have time to celebrate his last fight with Campbell and beseech Davis to accept his challenge. However, Garcia vowed to knock out Davis within the second rounds and Davis replied through his Instagram page saying "I rather handle shit wit violence instead of speaking!" (https://www.instagram.com/p/CJrND_BAWGo/)

For those who don't know Garcia is after Davis for years now.

What is your thought about this unique fighter in the lightweight?


If this were going to happen or scheduled , for sure the Fight is very explosive and awaited .Garcia has His own style and ability while Davis is very Powerful Boxer .

I will be looking for Knockout on this Fight as surely there will be.

But Have no decision yet whom to Bet , i won on Garcia against campbell but this is another different story.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: mu_enrico on January 08, 2021, 08:09:48 AM
Hold on for a sec guys, this fight is still only speculation. I doubt Garcia is really going to fight Davis despite the "he is not ready" comment from his mentor.

I'm wondering who is the favorite in this fight but I'm here to back Garcia, not because of his baby face but because I trust his power.

But Have no decision yet whom to Bet , i won on Garcia against campbell but this is another different story.

Mikey Garcia: Ryan Garcia Isn't Ready For Tank Davis (https://www.boxingnews24.com/2021/01/mikey-garcia-ryan-garcia-isnt-ready-for-tank-davis/)
Canelo Alvarez Feels Ryan Garcia Is Not Ready for Gervonta Davis: 'I Want to See Him Do Couple of More Fights' (https://www.essentiallysports.com/boxing-news-canelo-alvarez-feels-ryan-garcia-is-not-ready-for-gervonta-davis-i-want-to-see-him-do-couple-of-more-fights/)

He is not ready! :P


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: btc_angela on January 08, 2021, 08:10:50 AM
If this fight unfolds this year, I think Tank Davis will be the favourite, but the betting odds will be close. And with that said, I will put my money on Davis, Garcia has still a lot of loopholes in his game specially his defence that's why he was caught with that big left hook. Imagine if that comes from Tank, for sure it will be a different outcome and Ryan could have lost. So I'm seeing the same, left hook or upper cut like the Leo Sta Cruz fight, it will be brutal ko coming from Tank Davis.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: bisdak40 on January 08, 2021, 08:36:44 AM
Is this fight going to be a certainty this year or did @suzanne5223 only speculate that this would happen this year? The best of the best in boxing usually avoid each other or take the negotitations very long similar to Floyd versus Pacman.

Another fight that should be given to the fans is Terrence Crawford versus Errol Spence.

This is just pure speculation as there is no contract yet and people around Team Garcia admits that their fighter is not yet ready for this fight.

Haney vs Garcia is close to reality as WBC ordered Haney to defend his belt against Garcia as the latter is now the mandatory on that belt.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: robelneo on January 08, 2021, 09:45:14 AM


After surviving an early knockdown by Luke Campbell on last Saturday night fight which he later defeated Campbell by TKO in the seventh round with a left hook to won the interim WBC lightweight title.
A day after he was after Gervonta Davis he said "I really want to be a man of my word" that he doesn't have time to celebrate his last fight with Campbell and beseech Davis to accept his challenge. However, Garcia vowed to knock out Davis within the second rounds and Davis replied through his Instagram page saying "I rather handle shit wit violence instead of speaking!" (https://www.instagram.com/p/CJrND_BAWGo/)

For those who don't know Garcia is after Davis for years now.

What is your thought about this unique fighter in the lightweight?



This is a huge fight that should happen with all the crowds in the arena everybody would want to be in the arena when this happens and any promoter wants this to happen with a live audience, it has the making of a blockbuster fight and sold-out crowd.
Both fighters can knock each other, this is going to be the biggest test of their career and whoever wins this fight will have a big leap in his career, I like Garcia but we all know the devastating power of Gervonta, this is going to be one of the biggest events of 2021.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: GreatArkansas on January 08, 2021, 09:52:50 AM
https://i.imgflip.com/4t13ib.jpghttps://i.imgflip.com/4t13o5.jpg
Here's the professional records of these two undefeated boxers.
Gervonta Davis got a beast record for me, his knockouts percentage is huge, 95%. Almost of his fights he can do knockout.
But the advantage of Ryan Garcia for me is the height and reach.
This kind of bout is such exciting, which both of the boxers are undefeated. I am going for Gervonta Davis here.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: cryptomaniac_xxx on January 08, 2021, 10:03:13 AM
Is this fight going to be a certainty this year or did @suzanne5223 only speculate that this would happen this year? The best of the best in boxing usually avoid each other or take the negotitations very long similar to Floyd versus Pacman.

Another fight that should be given to the fans is Terrence Crawford versus Errol Spence.

This is just pure speculation as there is no contract yet and people around Team Garcia admits that their fighter is not yet ready for this fight.

Haney vs Garcia is close to reality as WBC ordered Haney to defend his belt against Garcia as the latter is now the mandatory on that belt.
I agree, Garcia should be fighting Haney next and not Davis, Garcia is the mandatory for Haney's belt so why the rush to fight a very difficult opponent in Davis. He will not be the A-side with a Davis fight. If he wanted his stock to go up, beat Haney with a knockout probably fight another one to defend the belt and then chase Davis or even Teo Lopez.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: aioc on January 08, 2021, 01:24:41 PM
The lightweight divisions is the most crowded superstars in boxing and these promoters should not deprive boxing fans of the opportunity of giving them the best fights in that division, these promoters should talk and agreed to match these great champions and see who will come out the best among them best, for me Teofimo Lopez will emerge the best boxers in those divisions.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: Baofeng on January 08, 2021, 02:00:28 PM
Is this fight going to be a certainty this year or did @suzanne5223 only speculate that this would happen this year? The best of the best in boxing usually avoid each other or take the negotitations very long similar to Floyd versus Pacman.

Another fight that should be given to the fans is Terrence Crawford versus Errol Spence.

This is just pure speculation as there is no contract yet and people around Team Garcia admits that their fighter is not yet ready for this fight.

Haney vs Garcia is close to reality as WBC ordered Haney to defend his belt against Garcia as the latter is now the mandatory on that belt.

Yeah, this is speculation as of this time, but for those who wanted to know where it all started, you better watch this video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHP2irYlqoA

Garcia talking s**t, calling Davis "too ugly to be champion", hehehehe. I myself thinks that Haney should be the safest route for Garcia, but it seems this kid wanted to get on top, targeting Davis early on.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: Jating on January 08, 2021, 02:11:08 PM
That's some serious trash talking coming from Garcia, I don't know it seems that he took it to the next level, too confident on his ability that it might back fire on him if he lost to Davis with a knock out.

But the thing is that Davis confirmed that they are going to face each other next, not sure if this is a guarantee fight as they need to agree about the split and the venue and of course the fight should happen where fans can watch it live to bring more moolah for this two fighters.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: crzy on January 08, 2021, 02:15:03 PM
Ryan Garcia did a strong performance on his last fight and deserve the title, but he’s so greedy and eager to earn another title so this will be a hard fight for Garcia, he’s young and has a good talent so there’s a chance for him to win but of course Davis is not an easy opponent. I don’t know but the trash talk of Garcia is too much, let’s see the result of this one.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: Kelvinid on January 08, 2021, 02:33:08 PM
This is how the two looks like.

https://i.imgur.com/0SbvSaQ.png

And that is clear to see that Davis has an advantage over Garcia but it can't be assured during the fight and that because both of them don't want to lose instead of winning.

If considering these stats, I have some glimpse already where to put my bet and that is for Davis. Both are undefeated but what I think from this is that Garcia is a challenger. That he asked for a fight and this gonna be a fight of the fist.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: RokokGudangGaram on January 08, 2021, 02:40:42 PM
This will be a tough fight for Ryan Garcia for sure as he is a little bit behind with regards to experience and KO's. They are both undefeated so this will be a good fight for sure and they will surely prepare for this fight as they will surely look for a win in order to maintain their undefeated record or else they will suffer their first loss without a good fight if they will not be in their 100% condition.

Knocking out Davis in 2nd round is a tough word for sure, we know Ryan has a power punch but he should also consider that Davis has a better record to him in terms of knockouts. But I am sure that there will be a KO in this fight as they both have the power to KO each other if in case this fight will happen.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: Darker45 on January 08, 2021, 03:14:54 PM
This is a great fight. Well, if this pushes through. I would want to see this fight rather than Garcia versus Haney. The latter might go the distance. This one, however, is definitely going to be explosive. One of them will certainly end up KOed on the canvas.

Garcia is acting like someone who's tasted blood and wants more. If I were both of these boxers' promoters, I'd sit down and plan on how to make this happen.

I'd probably choose Garcia over Davis.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: AmoreJaz on January 08, 2021, 09:22:27 PM
This is how the two looks like.
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And that is clear to see that Davis has an advantage over Garcia but it can't be assured during the fight and that because both of them don't want to lose instead of winning.

If considering these stats, I have some glimpse already where to put my bet and that is for Davis. Both are undefeated but what I think from this is that Garcia is a challenger. That he asked for a fight and this gonna be a fight of the fist.

if this will push thru this year, this will be the fight a lot will be waiting for. because of their impressive records, this will be an exciting to watch. once they are listed in those bookies, we will know who is the favourite on this match. but i guess, the odds will be close. now, what they can do is have their respective rigid training before the fight. btw, what is the chance that this will gonna happen soon?


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: goinmerry on January 08, 2021, 09:37:00 PM
I thought there's an official date already.

This is one of the big fights this year if push through.

Impressive boxers with awesome stats on their weight class and only via DRAW can save their clean record.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: harizen on January 08, 2021, 09:46:33 PM
This is just pure speculation as there is no contract yet and people around Team Garcia admits that their fighter is not yet ready for this fight.

Haney vs Garcia is close to reality as WBC ordered Haney to defend his belt against Garcia as the latter is now the mandatory on that belt.

That makes sense but Haney itself isn't planning to face Garcia right now (https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/30670144/devin-haney-not-planning-facing-ryan-garcia-hopes-fight-teofimo-lopez-2021) and eyeing to face another boxer.

The Davis-Garcia challenge was made up during a podcast so I think it's not the original plan. But since both fighters exchange heated words on that podcast, likely they will face each other next as two boxers already "conclude" it but "only by words". Still, without an official negotiation, we can't expect right away that the fight will happen earlier this year.

Quote
“I’m going to fight him. I’ll fight him next,” - Davis
“It’s set in stone now, baby,” - Garcia.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: coin-investor on January 09, 2021, 10:42:36 AM


For those who don't know Garcia is after Davis for years now.

What is your thought about this unique fighter in the lightweight?



Garcia's chin is a big suspect after being floored by a guy who has no knockout power, with Davis accuracy and power Garcia will be in big trouble I have seen the fight of both fighters and Davis has a huge edge he has fought and knocks out great fighters like Sta Cruz and Gamboa and soon Gervonta will add Ryan Garcia to his resume of who he knocked out.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: suzanne5223 on January 09, 2021, 09:38:26 PM
Should be an explosive fight as both boxers are undefeated and currently reigning in the LightWeight division.

Garcia won via KO in his last 5 fights which is impressive and 3 of those are finished under Round 2-3.
I believe this is what gave Garcia the impression that he will defeat Davis in 2-3 rounds by KO and the last time I checked he shouldnt use that to judge Davis performance since hes also doing well in the LightWeight division.

But even with that, a warning to Davis that the fight will end in 2 Rounds is totally crazy and insane. For the record, Davis' last 15 fights are all KO. This will be settled in a split decision I think.
The fight may end early than we thought cause Garcia's statement seems to make Davis mad and if he's more concentrated he may lose to Garcia but if he's focused he may beat Garcia with KO.


Garcia is undoubtedly strong but he needs to shut his mouth first and do all the works once they fight in the ring.

2 rounds knockout as a warning is not appropriate against an undefeated fighter in his same division.
Absolutely and I totally love Davis response to Garcia statement. However, I expect this to be the reason why Davis will be prepared for him more than Garcia thought.

Davis will make sure that won't happen as I don't believe that will happen too. Maybe a knockout on Round 5-7 but not on Round 2.

If Garcia will able to do it in Round 2 then that's the time he needs to brag about his achievement.
I dont see it happen.


This is a great fight. Well, if this pushes through. I would want to see this fight rather than Garcia versus Haney. The latter might go the distance. This one, however, is definitely going to be explosive. One of them will certainly end up KOed on the canvas.

Garcia is acting like someone who's tasted blood and wants more. If I were both of these boxers' promoters, I'd sit down and plan on how to make this happen.

I'd probably choose Garcia over Davis.
Garcia wants the fight so bad, Davis's reply on Instagram shows he's also willing to fight him and we know Mayweather (which is Davis promoter and mentor) is up for fight once the money is good they will sit down and make a plan for the fight.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: Yaunfitda on January 10, 2021, 09:09:33 AM
This is a great fight. Well, if this pushes through. I would want to see this fight rather than Garcia versus Haney. The latter might go the distance. This one, however, is definitely going to be explosive. One of them will certainly end up KOed on the canvas.

Garcia is acting like someone who's tasted blood and wants more. If I were both of these boxers' promoters, I'd sit down and plan on how to make this happen.

I'd probably choose Garcia over Davis.
That's they problem though, sometimes boxing politics gets in the way of great fights.

And do hope that they fight up until in their prime, in the next two years.

Garcia is a warrior has proven against Campbell and so is Davis, so yes this will be an explosive fight that every fans are waiting to see.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: Twinkledoe on January 10, 2021, 10:56:01 AM
This is a great fight. Well, if this pushes through. I would want to see this fight rather than Garcia versus Haney. The latter might go the distance. This one, however, is definitely going to be explosive. One of them will certainly end up KOed on the canvas.

Garcia is acting like someone who's tasted blood and wants more. If I were both of these boxers' promoters, I'd sit down and plan on how to make this happen.

I'd probably choose Garcia over Davis.
That's they problem though, sometimes boxing politics gets in the way of great fights.

And do hope that they fight up until in their prime, in the next two years.

Garcia is a warrior has proven against Campbell and so is Davis, so yes this will be an explosive fight that every fans are waiting to see.

Also, it depends on their respective promoters. If they don't agree with purse distribution because of self interests, they won't do it. Look at how long the Mayweather-Pacquiao was in the making. They were not already in their prime when they finally hit the boxing stage. So their promoters should think of the respective career of their boxers not only the money involved.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: Lorence.xD on January 11, 2021, 05:20:53 AM
Should be an explosive fight as both boxers are undefeated and currently reigning in the LightWeight division.

Garcia won via KO in his last 5 fights which is impressive and 3 of those are finished under Round 2-3.

But even with that, a warning to Davis that the fight will end in 2 Rounds is totally crazy and insane. For the record, Davis' last 15 fights are all KO. This will be settled in a split decision I think.
This will not be a split decision, it will be a KO if possible both are knock out artist so we might as well assume that this fight will be bloody, besides Garcia wants to get on a bout with Davis for a long time and I think that with his current achievements, Davis will not be able to just shrug it off. A KO within 2 rounds do sound crazy but it does happen but who knows, I have to agree with you that it will be a good fight, let's see who will get a 1 on their loss first.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: bitterguy28 on January 11, 2021, 05:28:10 AM


After surviving an early knockdown by Luke Campbell on last Saturday night fight which he later defeated Campbell by TKO in the seventh round with a left hook to won the interim WBC lightweight title.
A day after he was after Gervonta Davis he said "I really want to be a man of my word" that he doesn't have time to celebrate his last fight with Campbell and beseech Davis to accept his challenge. However, Garcia vowed to knock out Davis within the second rounds and Davis replied through his Instagram page saying "I rather handle shit wit violence instead of speaking!" (https://www.instagram.com/p/CJrND_BAWGo/)

For those who don't know Garcia is after Davis for years now.

What is your thought about this unique fighter in the lightweight?


Now Garcia is facing His Best and Related Opponent, Davis will Give Him a best defense of His title now.

I'm for davis in this bout and will Put half of my gambling allotted amount for the Match , hope nothings an issue till the fight Comes .

and i will be accepting side bets also.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: kotajikikox on January 11, 2021, 05:32:09 AM

What is your thought about this unique fighter in the lightweight?


Now the time has come , One of the Dream Fight of Garcia to face Davis in His title match , and he must take this seriously because Davis is not Making fun fighting against Him.


Garcia is undoubtedly strong but he needs to shut his mouth first and do all the works once they fight in the ring.

2 rounds knockout as a warning is not appropriate against an undefeated fighter in his same division. Davis will make sure that won't happen as I don't believe that will happen too. Maybe a knockout on Round 5-7 but not on Round 2.

If Garcia will able to do it in Round 2 then that's the time he needs to brag about his achievement.
This is the Problem with Garcia , His Mouth is more stronger than His Fists , Let's see what comes to Him after the Box happens soon .

I'm not certain whom to bet but will surely put some small amount here as i am waiting for Mayweather's Fight to bet much more.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: carlisle1 on January 11, 2021, 06:15:05 AM

What is your thought about this unique fighter in the lightweight?


Does Garcia has Just Won His title defense recently ?

The this is a Advance preparation for his Side since Davis is just waiting for opponent .

and Davis is Undefeated in His division , This is a Tough fight for Garcia who is claiming to Knock down Him  sooner as the fight starts  ;D.

Hope He'll find way to Make this Happen .


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: Fredomago on January 11, 2021, 07:20:52 AM
Should be an explosive fight as both boxers are undefeated and currently reigning in the LightWeight division.

Garcia won via KO in his last 5 fights which is impressive and 3 of those are finished under Round 2-3.

But even with that, a warning to Davis that the fight will end in 2 Rounds is totally crazy and insane. For the record, Davis' last 15 fights are all KO. This will be settled in a split decision I think.
This will not be a split decision, it will be a KO if possible both are knock out artist so we might as well assume that this fight will be bloody, besides Garcia wants to get on a bout with Davis for a long time and I think that with his current achievements, Davis will not be able to just shrug it off. A KO within 2 rounds do sound crazy but it does happen but who knows, I have to agree with you that it will be a good fight, let's see who will get a 1 on their loss first.

It will be a good fight since both fighters are really aiming to bring their respective knock out blow! Interesting to know who's more hunger to win against each other.

Ryan Garcia just won't recently and his fighting capabilities was exposed, he just hit solid placing him to to fall down, If Davis team will able to duplicate that with additional puching power Garcia might fall with a K.O

Let see how this fight will  ends up, both young fighters wnated to prove something, it's possible to see
2 rounds K.O as they both have that killing instinct.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: aioc on January 11, 2021, 12:42:05 PM

I like the caption and the slogan of the fight both fighters is nowhere going to hide because they want each other badly and they want each other reputation, so much is at stake on this fight, there last fights becomes a good build up for this fight, I still believe Gervonta has enough power and skills to take down Garcia and his big motivation is Garcia's bragging that he will knock him out in two.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: Latviand on January 11, 2021, 12:55:04 PM
These two fighters are already a soon hall of famer and it will really become a good fight when they meet each other inside the ring.

Some people will say that Davis have the advantage, and other people will say that Ryan Garcia is much younger and can beat his ass up. If this really happened then I will place my bet on Gervonta Davis because there are a lot of things that might happen inside the ring, don't base your bet depending on their highlights in the internet.

But also always look on the odds so that you have some basis on where you will place your bets but if you are really a fan of these two then place your bets depending on your preferences.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: Fundamentals Of on January 11, 2021, 02:27:24 PM
After watching the last fight of Garcia, I started to follow this young man and search the history of Garcia and that's an impressive record honestly. He's a confident boxer and that's why he keeps on challenging and keeps on building his name strongly. This is gonna be a hard match for Garcia because Davis is not an easy opponent despite of his records, looks like Garcia really wants to become the king of boxer soon. 

He is a young boxer with an excellent talent inside the ring. He has all the reasons to call out other strong boxers out there or even demand for an equally strong opponent. That is the kind of fighter that I want. Some other fighters are calling out old yet popular fighters just to create a name in the sports. If someone really thinks that he is a good boxer then challenge those who are the strongest ones like those young and undefeated fighters. That's what Garcia does. Ryan Garcia is a fearless warrior.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: freedomgo on January 11, 2021, 02:28:17 PM
After watching the last fight of Garcia, I started to follow this young man and search the history of Garcia and that's an impressive record honestly. He's a confident boxer and that's why he keeps on challenging and keeps on building his name strongly. This is gonna be a hard match for Garcia because Davis is not an easy opponent despite of his records, looks like Garcia really wants to become the king of boxer soon. 

I admire this kid, he is very young and keep challenging good fighter.  His baby face does not make him look scary but inside the ring, he really is a beast. He was the power to KO his opponent anytime so it's just right to challenge great fighters as he is already at his peak now.

by the way, Gervonta Davis is always a great boxer, still undefeated with 24 wins and 23 of that is from KO.. it's pretty amazing, right? This should be an interesting match up if this would take place.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: Yamifoud on January 11, 2021, 02:41:11 PM

But also always look on the odds so that you have some basis on where you will place your bets but if you are really a fan of these two then place your bets depending on your preferences.
I don't just rely on odds but seeing on their previous performance is really interesting and sort of basis where to put my bet. That a young and fearless look, Garcia can't be good compared to Davis's performance. That even Davis will have a higher or lower odds, I'm still voting for him this time. he is actually my favorite in this game. They all have a good fighting record but Garcia still a kid in boxing.

Anyway, let's wait for the final fight confirmation.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: bisdak40 on January 11, 2021, 09:08:12 PM
After watching the last fight of Garcia, I started to follow this young man and search the history of Garcia and that's an impressive record honestly. He's a confident boxer and that's why he keeps on challenging and keeps on building his name strongly. This is gonna be a hard match for Garcia because Davis is not an easy opponent despite of his records, looks like Garcia really wants to become the king of boxer soon. 

Fighting Davis at this stage of his career is difficult indeed. He won his last fight against Campbell who is way below the level of Davis in terms of talent and yet he exposed the weakness of Garcia and that might be used against him if this fight will push through.

Garcia has talent, no one will argue with that but being on the top of his division, he need to be patient and follow the advise of his team.

We might see another Amir Khan if he i always in a hurry  ;D.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: chaser15 on January 11, 2021, 10:24:03 PM
There are issues that need to addressed first for the fight to proceed.

It's not just a simple deal even 2 boxers like it to push through.

https://www.boxingnews24.com/2021/01/eddie-hearn-doubts-ryan-garcia-vs-gervonta-davis-happens/ (http://Gervonta Davis vs. Ryan Garcia unlikely to happen)

Fighting Davis at this stage of his career is difficult indeed. He won his last fight against Campbell who is way below the level of Davis in terms of talent and yet he exposed the weakness of Garcia and that might be used against him if this fight will push through.

I agree with you. Looks like just a rage between two fighters that's why a challenge formed.



Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: suzanne5223 on January 13, 2021, 11:22:15 PM
[snip]
I like the caption and the slogan of the fight both fighters is nowhere going to hide because they want each other badly and they want each other reputation, so much is at stake on this fight, there last fights becomes a good build up for this fight, I still believe Gervonta has enough power and skills to take down Garcia and his big motivation is Garcia's bragging that he will knock him out in two.
There will be so much at stake if the fight push through and Garcia bragging about knocking Gervonta out in the early rounds was what causes the fighting slogan which was Gervonta's reply to the statement about knocking him out.



What is your thought about this unique fighter in the lightweight?


Now the time has come , One of the Dream Fight of Garcia to face Davis in His title match , and he must take this seriously because Davis is not Making fun fighting against Him.
Certainly, he will take the fight seriously cause claimed not to have time for celebrating and also said to defeat David as soon as possible when they meet in the ring.

[snip]
What is your thought about this unique fighter in the lightweight?
Does Garcia has Just Won His title defense recently ?
Yes and he challenge Davis during his interview.

The this is a Advance preparation for his Side since Davis is just waiting for opponent .

and Davis is Undefeated in His division , This is a Tough fight for Garcia who is claiming to Knock down Him  sooner as the fight starts  ;D.

Hope He'll find way to Make this Happen .
He can't find a way to make it happen cause if it can take him 7th rounds to knock out Luke Campbell the chance of him to knock out Davis who's undefeated and have better chance to win is tiny.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: Hippocrypto on January 13, 2021, 11:37:28 PM


After surviving an early knockdown by Luke Campbell on last Saturday night fight which he later defeated Campbell by TKO in the seventh round with a left hook to won the interim WBC lightweight title.
A day after he was after Gervonta Davis he said "I really want to be a man of my word" that he doesn't have time to celebrate his last fight with Campbell and beseech Davis to accept his challenge. However, Garcia vowed to knock out Davis within the second rounds and Davis replied through his Instagram page saying "I rather handle shit wit violence instead of speaking!" (https://www.instagram.com/p/CJrND_BAWGo/)

For those who don't know Garcia is after Davis for years now.

What is your thought about this unique fighter in the lightweight?



I don't think that Garcia would make it even though he vowed to knock out Davis for seconds. He didn't know the capability of his opponent, yet his concluding aggressively which I believed we need to see the reality when they actually have a real time fight. We can't afford to believe only on trash talks, because most of that resulted to failure when fight on the ring happens.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: hulla on January 13, 2021, 11:52:59 PM
The reason why Ryan Gracia wants Davis to fight him so bad is that he's planning to retire at the age of 26 which will be in the year 2025 and he promised to beat all the best fighter in the lightweight division maybe also fight the light welterweight and before he can achieve that Davis is the right opponent for him to fight. But Garcia was said to have slow feet and also not good at fighting back when pressure which I think will get him into trouble when he faces Davis.
Having said that, he will fight Devin Haney first (maybe in June) before he can face Davis.

There are issues that need to addressed first for the fight to proceed.

It's not just a simple deal even 2 boxers like it to push through.

https://www.boxingnews24.com/2021/01/eddie-hearn-doubts-ryan-garcia-vs-gervonta-davis-happens/ (http://Gervonta Davis vs. Ryan Garcia unlikely to happen)
If the two agreed and sign the require paper, I believe the fight will take place at Q4 and the covid 19 should be under control by then so what Eddie said wont stop them from fighting.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: madnessteat on January 14, 2021, 09:35:27 AM
Thanks for this info, honestly I just recently noticed Garcia as a good fighter due to his fast hands and strong punches and I didn't know he intends to retire from boxing at an early age. I consider him as a prodigy that still has a long way to go due to his young age and the achievements and astonishing performances and knockouts. I would like to see Ryan Garcia face Davis since they are both undefeated and it seems that he possesses a threat to this young Kid.

Yes, Ryan Garcia is younger than Jervonta Davis, but I think the age difference of only 4 years will play an important role when talking about the boxer's reaction. Besides Davis is just as good with his hands and you have to try hard to stay on your feet after a "tank" shot. As the history of his fights shows, no one could resist him.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: cryptomaniac_xxx on January 14, 2021, 10:01:23 AM
Thanks for this info, honestly I just recently noticed Garcia as a good fighter due to his fast hands and strong punches and I didn't know he intends to retire from boxing at an early age. I consider him as a prodigy that still has a long way to go due to his young age and the achievements and astonishing performances and knockouts. I would like to see Ryan Garcia face Davis since they are both undefeated and it seems that he possesses a threat to this young Kid.

Yes, Ryan Garcia is younger than Jervonta Davis, but I think the age difference of only 4 years will play an important role when talking about the boxer's reaction. Besides Davis is just as good with his hands and you have to try hard to stay on your feet after a "tank" shot. As the history of his fights shows, no one could resist him.
Both of them are in their prime, specially Davis, ripe age for boxers to really hit their peak, while Garcia is still not there, but he is someone very specially so the age difference doesn't matter at all. It is the experience, so I think Davis won in this category. Both have power so it even it up. And that's why this fight is very intriguing, who really don't know what will happen in the ring as both are capable to really knock out each other.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: suzanne5223 on January 14, 2021, 05:23:38 PM
[snip]
After surviving an early knockdown by Luke Campbell on last Saturday night fight which he later defeated Campbell by TKO in the seventh round with a left hook to won the interim WBC lightweight title.
A day after he was after Gervonta Davis he said "I really want to be a man of my word" that he doesn't have time to celebrate his last fight with Campbell and beseech Davis to accept his challenge. However, Garcia vowed to knock out Davis within the second rounds and Davis replied through his Instagram page saying "I rather handle shit wit violence instead of speaking!" (https://www.instagram.com/p/CJrND_BAWGo/)

For those who don't know Garcia is after Davis for years now.

What is your thought about this unique fighter in the lightweight?



I don't think that Garcia would make it even though he vowed to knock out Davis for seconds. He didn't know the capability of his opponent, yet his concluding aggressively which I believed we need to see the reality when they actually have a real time fight. We can't afford to believe only on trash talks, because most of that resulted to failure when fight on the ring happens.
Well said and I also believe Garcia was saying that through the successful fight he had with Luke Campbell cause people sometimes say silly things when they are happy. I read that he later apologize to Davis for been to aggressive but I don't think Davis take what he said back cause Gracia still insisted to defeat him at the second round which I believe is a silly statement.
Having said that, trash talk is welcome in boxing in other to promote the fight and a lot of boxing fans also believe Garcia make the statement just to promote hype.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: Insanerman on January 14, 2021, 05:43:51 PM
I know that many are against the willingness and confidence of Garcia towards Davis, yet I think he can use it as a main motivation to work harder than he did before. Yes, Davis is indeed good and waaaay better than any fighters that fought Garcia, but keep in mind that Garcia's years of waiting for this moment is a huge motivation to defeat Davis. Furthermore, he seems to be in a good shape to face Davis soon and would be good to see where his ego would lead him.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: hulla on January 14, 2021, 06:01:58 PM
The reason why Ryan Gracia wants Davis to fight him so bad is that he's planning to retire at the age of 26 which will be in the year 2025 and he promised to beat all the best fighter in the lightweight division maybe also fight the light welterweight and before he can achieve that Davis is the right opponent for him to fight. But Garcia was said to have slow feet and also not good at fighting back when pressure which I think will get him into trouble when he faces Davis.
Having said that, he will fight Devin Haney first (maybe in June) before he can face Davis.

There are issues that need to addressed first for the fight to proceed.

It's not just a simple deal even 2 boxers like it to push through.

https://www.boxingnews24.com/2021/01/eddie-hearn-doubts-ryan-garcia-vs-gervonta-davis-happens/ (http://Gervonta Davis vs. Ryan Garcia unlikely to happen)
If the two agreed and sign the require paper, I believe the fight will take place in Q4 and the covid 19 should be under control by then so what Eddie said won't stop them from fighting.


Thanks for this info, honestly I just recently noticed Garcia as a good fighter due to his fast hands and strong punches and I didn't know he intends to retire from boxing at an early age. I consider him as a prodigy that still has a long way to go due to his young age and the achievements and astonishing performances and knockouts. I would like to see Ryan Garcia face Davis since they are both undefeated and it seems that he possesses a threat to this young Kid.
You are welcome and I honestly don't expect Garcia to think about retiring that early but he has his reasons which I believe is focusing on somethng else and being retire doesn't mean he cant still fight in the ring since Mayweather etc does the same thing. However, when it 2025 he may change his thought but I don't see Davis as a threat to Garcia cause it was Garcia that seems not to want anyone to be unbeaten by him.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: Fredomago on January 14, 2021, 07:21:56 PM
I know that many are against the willingness and confidence of Garcia towards Davis, yet I think he can use it as a main motivation to work harder than he did before. Yes, Davis is indeed good and waaaay better than any fighters that fought Garcia, but keep in mind that Garcia's years of waiting for this moment is a huge motivation to defeat Davis. Furthermore, he seems to be in a good shape to face Davis soon and would be good to see where his ego would lead him.

It's not bad using that as motivations but Garcia also needs to think about his actions, figthing Davis is a great challenge and very tough as for this moment, as this fighter also have the big capabilities to knock him down.

Davis have right skills and experienced to face against Garcia and with that previous fight agaisnt Campbell the camp of Davis will review every single lapses that Garcia had from that last fight. It will be an interesting figth for this two as they are be move not by money but also the ego of being top fighters from this division.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: Vaculin on January 15, 2021, 12:25:06 PM
I know that many are against the willingness and confidence of Garcia towards Davis, yet I think he can use it as a main motivation to work harder than he did before. Yes, Davis is indeed good and waaaay better than any fighters that fought Garcia, but keep in mind that Garcia's years of waiting for this moment is a huge motivation to defeat Davis. Furthermore, he seems to be in a good shape to face Davis soon and would be good to see where his ego would lead him.

It's not bad using that as motivations but Garcia also needs to think about his actions, figthing Davis is a great challenge and very tough as for this moment, as this fighter also have the big capabilities to knock him down.

Davis have right skills and experienced to face against Garcia and with that previous fight agaisnt Campbell the camp of Davis will review every single lapses that Garcia had from that last fight. It will be an interesting figth for this two as they are be move not by money but also the ego of being top fighters from this division.

Big fight for the start of this year, everyone wants to see that. We have our own speculation here but these boxers knows themselves better, they would not challenge or accept a challenge if they don't think they have a chance of winning. I hope this fight will be realize, it will be a great fight or a must watch fight.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: jossiel on January 15, 2021, 10:46:56 PM
This thread is about Ryan Garcia and his match so, I think I should post it here instead of making a new thread about him. Well, he just said that Manny Pacquiao should pass the title on him, in short he's challenging Manny. Isn't that ambitious or nah? what do you say guys?

Ryan Garcia Says He Wants Manny Pacquiao Fight, Talks Possible MMA Future (https://bleacherreport.com/articles/10000207-ryan-garcia-says-he-wants-manny-pacquiao-fight-talks-possible-mma-future)

Ryan Garcia Points To Manny Pacquiao as The "Dream Fight" (https://www.boxingscene.com/ryan-garcia-points-manny-pacquiao-dream-fight--154693)

What are the experts in boxing and are good in analysis can say about his talk?


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: Balmain on November 18, 2022, 02:08:38 PM
I don't know what to say, both are unique fighters. Both have explosively powerful left hands. Ryan Garcia uses a straight guard, but his left hook is very strong. I'm not sure how durable Davis will be if Ryan Garcia hits, but I think he'll be very hard to catch. I think Davis will make more accurate hits. Apart from the hits, according to my analysis, according to the matches I watched, Davis is a unique fighter who fights more intelligently. I bet Garcia will get a TKO this fight.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: bittraffic on November 18, 2022, 02:53:12 PM

Just an update.  There is a newly created thread for this match  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5422053.0
OP is not aware of this thread I guess so yep this link is new and the match seemed finalized but the date was once moved to May next year.

Must be a great fight, with great people behind them too. They are proteges of champs.



Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: fortunecrypto on November 18, 2022, 02:58:54 PM
I don't know what to say, both are unique fighters. Both have explosively powerful left hands. Ryan Garcia uses a straight guard, but his left hook is very strong. I'm not sure how durable Davis will be if Ryan Garcia hits, but I think he'll be very hard to catch. I think Davis will make more accurate hits. Apart from the hits, according to my analysis, according to the matches I watched, Davis is a unique fighter who fights more intelligently. I bet Garcia will get a TKO this fight.

Ryan was knockdown by Luke Campbell who is not known as a knockout puncher, it just shows that Ryan has a weak spot and a weak chin, and if Gervonta can connect just one punch then the fight is over, Tank can knock out just anybody with a single punch and we have seen that on many of his fight his match with SantaCruz is very terrifying when Leo was knocked out with one single uppercut, Tank can take a big punch, so its Ryan who will be in trouble when they fought.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: Balmain on November 18, 2022, 07:21:27 PM
I don't know what to say, both are unique fighters. Both have explosively powerful left hands. Ryan Garcia uses a straight guard, but his left hook is very strong. I'm not sure how durable Davis will be if Ryan Garcia hits, but I think he'll be very hard to catch. I think Davis will make more accurate hits. Apart from the hits, according to my analysis, according to the matches I watched, Davis is a unique fighter who fights more intelligently. I bet Garcia will get a TKO this fight.

Ryan was knockdown by Luke Campbell who is not known as a knockout puncher, it just shows that Ryan has a weak spot and a weak chin, and if Gervonta can connect just one punch then the fight is over, Tank can knock out just anybody with a single punch and we have seen that on many of his fight his match with SantaCruz is very terrifying when Leo was knocked out with one single uppercut, Tank can take a big punch, so its Ryan who will be in trouble when they fought.
Yes yes I agree with you. Ryan Garcia has a weak chin, Luke Campell knocked him down, clearly, his left hook is pretty weak compared to Tank Davis' Left hook. Tank Davis will wait for the right moment for a single punch, as he did to Romero. He'll be playing games with Ryan Garcia until the moment is right.
Just an update.  There is a newly created thread for this match  https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5422053.0
OP is not aware of this thread I guess so yep this link is new and the match seemed finalized but the date was once moved to May next year.
I found this thread by searching this morning when I found out that the fight had been updated. I guess after I posted this post, I'm not sure about the other topic. I hope the fight date stays fixed now.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on December 01, 2022, 02:42:53 AM
I don't know what to say, both are unique fighters. Both have explosively powerful left hands. Ryan Garcia uses a straight guard, but his left hook is very strong. I'm not sure how durable Davis will be if Ryan Garcia hits, but I think he'll be very hard to catch. I think Davis will make more accurate hits. Apart from the hits, according to my analysis, according to the matches I watched, Davis is a unique fighter who fights more intelligently. I bet Garcia will get a TKO this fight.

Ryan was knockdown by Luke Campbell who is not known as a knockout puncher, it just shows that Ryan has a weak spot and a weak chin, and if Gervonta can connect just one punch then the fight is over, Tank can knock out just anybody with a single punch and we have seen that on many of his fight his match with SantaCruz is very terrifying when Leo was knocked out with one single uppercut, Tank can take a big punch, so its Ryan who will be in trouble when they fought.

Well there if you have the whole tree, for me this indicates that if Gervonta Davis can connect Garcia's chin it is something that can be very bad for him, I really don't blame Garcia because I know that a hit there to anyone throws him off, and Of course, in his case I would take care of myself, I wouldn't look for him to hit me there, always in boxing everyone has a weak point, it's where the kidneys are, a blow near the ribs doubles anyone and if he goes with a lot of power because even more so, just like in the genitals, that is something that cannot control the pain and obviously the strength goes elsewhere, however that is why they are boxers, they have to resist all kinds of attacks.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: btc_angela on December 01, 2022, 12:07:44 PM
I don't know what to say, both are unique fighters. Both have explosively powerful left hands. Ryan Garcia uses a straight guard, but his left hook is very strong. I'm not sure how durable Davis will be if Ryan Garcia hits, but I think he'll be very hard to catch. I think Davis will make more accurate hits. Apart from the hits, according to my analysis, according to the matches I watched, Davis is a unique fighter who fights more intelligently. I bet Garcia will get a TKO this fight.

Ryan was knockdown by Luke Campbell who is not known as a knockout puncher, it just shows that Ryan has a weak spot and a weak chin, and if Gervonta can connect just one punch then the fight is over, Tank can knock out just anybody with a single punch and we have seen that on many of his fight his match with SantaCruz is very terrifying when Leo was knocked out with one single uppercut, Tank can take a big punch, so its Ryan who will be in trouble when they fought.

Well there if you have the whole tree, for me this indicates that if Gervonta Davis can connect Garcia's chin it is something that can be very bad for him, I really don't blame Garcia because I know that a hit there to anyone throws him off, and Of course, in his case I would take care of myself, I wouldn't look for him to hit me there, always in boxing everyone has a weak point, it's where the kidneys are, a blow near the ribs doubles anyone and if he goes with a lot of power because even more so, just like in the genitals, that is something that cannot control the pain and obviously the strength goes elsewhere, however that is why they are boxers, they have to resist all kinds of attacks.

Gervonta Davis will always look to connect, he is known to have power and so it will be a big test for Ryan to survived in Davis connect to this chin. He was able to get up against Campbell, and I do agree that he is not a knockout artist and so Ryan weathered that storm and win that big test of a fight.

But against a hard and power puncher like Davis, it will be a different fight for him. Actually both will have to readjust because Ryan too has that left hook that can knockout anyone if he touches them. So I guess whoever land that first power punch, will gain the momentum in this fight.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: mirakal on December 01, 2022, 06:50:07 PM
I don't know what to say, both are unique fighters. Both have explosively powerful left hands. Ryan Garcia uses a straight guard, but his left hook is very strong. I'm not sure how durable Davis will be if Ryan Garcia hits, but I think he'll be very hard to catch. I think Davis will make more accurate hits. Apart from the hits, according to my analysis, according to the matches I watched, Davis is a unique fighter who fights more intelligently. I bet Garcia will get a TKO this fight.

Ryan was knockdown by Luke Campbell who is not known as a knockout puncher, it just shows that Ryan has a weak spot and a weak chin, and if Gervonta can connect just one punch then the fight is over, Tank can knock out just anybody with a single punch and we have seen that on many of his fight his match with SantaCruz is very terrifying when Leo was knocked out with one single uppercut, Tank can take a big punch, so its Ryan who will be in trouble when they fought.

Well there if you have the whole tree, for me this indicates that if Gervonta Davis can connect Garcia's chin it is something that can be very bad for him, I really don't blame Garcia because I know that a hit there to anyone throws him off, and Of course, in his case I would take care of myself, I wouldn't look for him to hit me there, always in boxing everyone has a weak point, it's where the kidneys are, a blow near the ribs doubles anyone and if he goes with a lot of power because even more so, just like in the genitals, that is something that cannot control the pain and obviously the strength goes elsewhere, however that is why they are boxers, they have to resist all kinds of attacks.

Gervonta Davis will always look to connect, he is known to have power and so it will be a big test for Ryan to survived in Davis connect to this chin. He was able to get up against Campbell, and I do agree that he is not a knockout artist and so Ryan weathered that storm and win that big test of a fight.

But against a hard and power puncher like Davis, it will be a different fight for him. Actually both will have to readjust because Ryan too has that left hook that can knockout anyone if he touches them. So I guess whoever land that first power punch, will gain the momentum in this fight.

Not just power, Davis also got the speed needed so that his foes won't have an easy way reading his movements to predict his next moves. Davis to me is like a puzzle that nobody yet has yet managed to solve that is why he is really a threat on the lightweight division and for Ryan Garcia, he should be prepared enough to face Davis and not just relying on the skill that he possessed now because Davis will just defeat him easily if improve his weakness as Campbell revealed him.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: carlisle1 on December 01, 2022, 08:07:20 PM
I don't know what to say, both are unique fighters. Both have explosively powerful left hands. Ryan Garcia uses a straight guard, but his left hook is very strong. I'm not sure how durable Davis will be if Ryan Garcia hits, but I think he'll be very hard to catch. I think Davis will make more accurate hits. Apart from the hits, according to my analysis, according to the matches I watched, Davis is a unique fighter who fights more intelligently. I bet Garcia will get a TKO this fight.

Ryan was knockdown by Luke Campbell who is not known as a knockout puncher, it just shows that Ryan has a weak spot and a weak chin, and if Gervonta can connect just one punch then the fight is over, Tank can knock out just anybody with a single punch and we have seen that on many of his fight his match with SantaCruz is very terrifying when Leo was knocked out with one single uppercut, Tank can take a big punch, so its Ryan who will be in trouble when they fought.

Well there if you have the whole tree, for me this indicates that if Gervonta Davis can connect Garcia's chin it is something that can be very bad for him, I really don't blame Garcia because I know that a hit there to anyone throws him off, and Of course, in his case I would take care of myself, I wouldn't look for him to hit me there, always in boxing everyone has a weak point, it's where the kidneys are, a blow near the ribs doubles anyone and if he goes with a lot of power because even more so, just like in the genitals, that is something that cannot control the pain and obviously the strength goes elsewhere, however that is why they are boxers, they have to resist all kinds of attacks.

Gervonta Davis will always look to connect, he is known to have power and so it will be a big test for Ryan to survived in Davis connect to this chin. He was able to get up against Campbell, and I do agree that he is not a knockout artist and so Ryan weathered that storm and win that big test of a fight.

But against a hard and power puncher like Davis, it will be a different fight for him. Actually both will have to readjust because Ryan too has that left hook that can knockout anyone if he touches them. So I guess whoever land that first power punch, will gain the momentum in this fight.

Yeah. Garcia also has that capability to throw a solid punch and if he converts the chance of him throwing follow up punches is well expected.
Garcia will not just stand and wait for Davis he will also make his move and try winning.

He might be the underdog, but upset can happen if he manages to avoid any solid combination from Davis.

We don't know who will win but the good catch here is we will see more aggressive attacks from both fighters since they are really wanted
to win the fight.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: roslinpl on December 01, 2022, 08:17:43 PM
Boxing is not like other game, it is based on the potential of the players. Every punches make them weak, but they have to keep their body to react for the next return punches. Until this keep repeats, he can’t win the opponent. It’s all about the Davis, he is potential to give back the punches to the enemy. His game against the Ryan will be good. Because people with good potential surely win the opponent with good scoring as compared to other players. So it’s important to increase your potential as compared to other players.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: Yaunfitda on December 01, 2022, 08:41:34 PM
I don't know what to say, both are unique fighters. Both have explosively powerful left hands. Ryan Garcia uses a straight guard, but his left hook is very strong. I'm not sure how durable Davis will be if Ryan Garcia hits, but I think he'll be very hard to catch. I think Davis will make more accurate hits. Apart from the hits, according to my analysis, according to the matches I watched, Davis is a unique fighter who fights more intelligently. I bet Garcia will get a TKO this fight.

Ryan was knockdown by Luke Campbell who is not known as a knockout puncher, it just shows that Ryan has a weak spot and a weak chin, and if Gervonta can connect just one punch then the fight is over, Tank can knock out just anybody with a single punch and we have seen that on many of his fight his match with SantaCruz is very terrifying when Leo was knocked out with one single uppercut, Tank can take a big punch, so its Ryan who will be in trouble when they fought.

Well there if you have the whole tree, for me this indicates that if Gervonta Davis can connect Garcia's chin it is something that can be very bad for him, I really don't blame Garcia because I know that a hit there to anyone throws him off, and Of course, in his case I would take care of myself, I wouldn't look for him to hit me there, always in boxing everyone has a weak point, it's where the kidneys are, a blow near the ribs doubles anyone and if he goes with a lot of power because even more so, just like in the genitals, that is something that cannot control the pain and obviously the strength goes elsewhere, however that is why they are boxers, they have to resist all kinds of attacks.

Gervonta Davis will always look to connect, he is known to have power and so it will be a big test for Ryan to survived in Davis connect to this chin. He was able to get up against Campbell, and I do agree that he is not a knockout artist and so Ryan weathered that storm and win that big test of a fight.

But against a hard and power puncher like Davis, it will be a different fight for him. Actually both will have to readjust because Ryan too has that left hook that can knockout anyone if he touches them. So I guess whoever land that first power punch, will gain the momentum in this fight.

Not just power, Davis also got the speed needed so that his foes won't have an easy way reading his movements to predict his next moves. Davis to me is like a puzzle that nobody yet has yet managed to solve that is why he is really a threat on the lightweight division and for Ryan Garcia, he should be prepared enough to face Davis and not just relying on the skill that he possessed now because Davis will just defeat him easily if improve his weakness as Campbell revealed him.
Yes, hard nut to crack, although against Isaac Cruz he was extend to full 12 rounds and there are moments that Cruz is very successful on hitting Davis.

For Ryan, the big test is when he was knock down by Campbell and then get up and still win the fight.

So both has been tested before in their career and still won, but this is very different fight for them. Specially for Ryan who have been calling Davis for a long time. Not sure what his 'fixation' with Davis that he thinks he can beat him easily.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: Fredomago on December 02, 2022, 12:48:10 PM

Yes, hard nut to crack, although against Isaac Cruz he was extend to full 12 rounds and there are moments that Cruz is very successful on hitting Davis.

For Ryan, the big test is when he was knock down by Campbell and then get up and still win the fight.

So both has been tested before in their career and still won, but this is very different fight for them. Specially for Ryan who have been calling Davis for a long time. Not sure what his 'fixation' with Davis that he thinks he can beat him easily.



Ryan needs to prove something because he keeps asking for this fight, now that he already have the chance of beating Davis he should put all his stake here, he needs to work harder in his training adding more spice to recreate his fighting style, if he will show the same form Davis may out-speed him and use that advantage to keep scorecard in his favor.

We don't know, though, if what will happen after, the trainings and sparring drills will help both fighters to find the right sets of combinations.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: YOSHIE on December 02, 2022, 01:27:08 PM
We don't know, though, if what will happen after, the trainings and sparring drills will help both fighters to find the right sets of combinations.
Nice something interesting if Gervonta vs. Ryan, want to continue betting, I hope the agreement between Gervonta and Ryan betting can be a little more professional, tired of hearing a thousand reasons, Professionally they both include boxers and stars that many enjoy doing in the sport of boxing.

We know Gervonta is one of the undefeated boxers, he has a good career in the boxing arena with an average score of 93%, from 27 matches all wins, he has never felt a series of, Gervonta.

I've read some news about the two of them, as stated by the OSSE president about their fight in 2023, next January, I hope this boxing can be the best event for both of them.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: btc_angela on December 02, 2022, 05:14:16 PM
I don't know what to say, both are unique fighters. Both have explosively powerful left hands. Ryan Garcia uses a straight guard, but his left hook is very strong. I'm not sure how durable Davis will be if Ryan Garcia hits, but I think he'll be very hard to catch. I think Davis will make more accurate hits. Apart from the hits, according to my analysis, according to the matches I watched, Davis is a unique fighter who fights more intelligently. I bet Garcia will get a TKO this fight.

Ryan was knockdown by Luke Campbell who is not known as a knockout puncher, it just shows that Ryan has a weak spot and a weak chin, and if Gervonta can connect just one punch then the fight is over, Tank can knock out just anybody with a single punch and we have seen that on many of his fight his match with SantaCruz is very terrifying when Leo was knocked out with one single uppercut, Tank can take a big punch, so its Ryan who will be in trouble when they fought.

Well there if you have the whole tree, for me this indicates that if Gervonta Davis can connect Garcia's chin it is something that can be very bad for him, I really don't blame Garcia because I know that a hit there to anyone throws him off, and Of course, in his case I would take care of myself, I wouldn't look for him to hit me there, always in boxing everyone has a weak point, it's where the kidneys are, a blow near the ribs doubles anyone and if he goes with a lot of power because even more so, just like in the genitals, that is something that cannot control the pain and obviously the strength goes elsewhere, however that is why they are boxers, they have to resist all kinds of attacks.

Gervonta Davis will always look to connect, he is known to have power and so it will be a big test for Ryan to survived in Davis connect to this chin. He was able to get up against Campbell, and I do agree that he is not a knockout artist and so Ryan weathered that storm and win that big test of a fight.

But against a hard and power puncher like Davis, it will be a different fight for him. Actually both will have to readjust because Ryan too has that left hook that can knockout anyone if he touches them. So I guess whoever land that first power punch, will gain the momentum in this fight.

Not just power, Davis also got the speed needed so that his foes won't have an easy way reading his movements to predict his next moves. Davis to me is like a puzzle that nobody yet has yet managed to solve that is why he is really a threat on the lightweight division and for Ryan Garcia, he should be prepared enough to face Davis and not just relying on the skill that he possessed now because Davis will just defeat him easily if improve his weakness as Campbell revealed him.

Definitely, he is somewhat of a puzzle for his opponents, although he might be considered a small fighter at 135 or even at 140 lbs, but he is a different physical specimen that's why they call him "Tank" for a reason, the way he was built and the speed and power.

And maybe that is the reason why Ryan Garcia wanted to fight Tank and has been calling him for years. He wanted to become the first one to beat or even knock him out and then gain the respect that he always wanted.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: freedomgo on December 02, 2022, 06:24:25 PM

Yes, hard nut to crack, although against Isaac Cruz he was extend to full 12 rounds and there are moments that Cruz is very successful on hitting Davis.

For Ryan, the big test is when he was knock down by Campbell and then get up and still win the fight.

So both has been tested before in their career and still won, but this is very different fight for them. Specially for Ryan who have been calling Davis for a long time. Not sure what his 'fixation' with Davis that he thinks he can beat him easily.



Ryan needs to prove something because he keeps asking for this fight, now that he already have the chance of beating Davis he should put all his stake here, he needs to work harder in his training adding more spice to recreate his fighting style, if he will show the same form Davis may out-speed him and use that advantage to keep scorecard in his favor.

We don't know, though, if what will happen after, the trainings and sparring drills will help both fighters to find the right sets of combinations.

After Garcia fought Campbell, he hasn't fought heavy players anymore and let Golden Boy get him two cherry-picked fights. We cannot yet tell if Garcia has indeed improved after Campbell solved him and told the world what his weakness is. I agree, if Garcia hasn't improved after that and will show against Davis not fully prepared, the latter will just get him embarrassed in-front of the public and might give him another mental issues.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on December 14, 2022, 12:32:18 AM
I don't know what to say, both are unique fighters. Both have explosively powerful left hands. Ryan Garcia uses a straight guard, but his left hook is very strong. I'm not sure how durable Davis will be if Ryan Garcia hits, but I think he'll be very hard to catch. I think Davis will make more accurate hits. Apart from the hits, according to my analysis, according to the matches I watched, Davis is a unique fighter who fights more intelligently. I bet Garcia will get a TKO this fight.

Ryan was knockdown by Luke Campbell who is not known as a knockout puncher, it just shows that Ryan has a weak spot and a weak chin, and if Gervonta can connect just one punch then the fight is over, Tank can knock out just anybody with a single punch and we have seen that on many of his fight his match with SantaCruz is very terrifying when Leo was knocked out with one single uppercut, Tank can take a big punch, so its Ryan who will be in trouble when they fought.

Well there if you have the whole tree, for me this indicates that if Gervonta Davis can connect Garcia's chin it is something that can be very bad for him, I really don't blame Garcia because I know that a hit there to anyone throws him off, and Of course, in his case I would take care of myself, I wouldn't look for him to hit me there, always in boxing everyone has a weak point, it's where the kidneys are, a blow near the ribs doubles anyone and if he goes with a lot of power because even more so, just like in the genitals, that is something that cannot control the pain and obviously the strength goes elsewhere, however that is why they are boxers, they have to resist all kinds of attacks.

Gervonta Davis will always look to connect, he is known to have power and so it will be a big test for Ryan to survived in Davis connect to this chin. He was able to get up against Campbell, and I do agree that he is not a knockout artist and so Ryan weathered that storm and win that big test of a fight.

But against a hard and power puncher like Davis, it will be a different fight for him. Actually both will have to readjust because Ryan too has that left hook that can knockout anyone if he touches them. So I guess whoever land that first power punch, will gain the momentum in this fight.

Well this is true, here I think the same thing, I think that whoever strikes the first blow will quickly gain confidence and what they have in fear or supposed respect will pass, because everyone thinks about what you say, in García's chin, However, I think that García is saved, he will not give an easy fight, mostly because the statistics are based on Davis winning the fight, and of course García is not stupid, he sees this information and makes him enter in much more concentration for their fight, in all instances I think this is something that all boxers experience and there are some who ignore it, but others don't, others get more itchy and begin to put in much more effort in their training, just to show that it is not.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: btc_angela on December 14, 2022, 08:38:21 AM
I don't know what to say, both are unique fighters. Both have explosively powerful left hands. Ryan Garcia uses a straight guard, but his left hook is very strong. I'm not sure how durable Davis will be if Ryan Garcia hits, but I think he'll be very hard to catch. I think Davis will make more accurate hits. Apart from the hits, according to my analysis, according to the matches I watched, Davis is a unique fighter who fights more intelligently. I bet Garcia will get a TKO this fight.

Ryan was knockdown by Luke Campbell who is not known as a knockout puncher, it just shows that Ryan has a weak spot and a weak chin, and if Gervonta can connect just one punch then the fight is over, Tank can knock out just anybody with a single punch and we have seen that on many of his fight his match with SantaCruz is very terrifying when Leo was knocked out with one single uppercut, Tank can take a big punch, so its Ryan who will be in trouble when they fought.

Well there if you have the whole tree, for me this indicates that if Gervonta Davis can connect Garcia's chin it is something that can be very bad for him, I really don't blame Garcia because I know that a hit there to anyone throws him off, and Of course, in his case I would take care of myself, I wouldn't look for him to hit me there, always in boxing everyone has a weak point, it's where the kidneys are, a blow near the ribs doubles anyone and if he goes with a lot of power because even more so, just like in the genitals, that is something that cannot control the pain and obviously the strength goes elsewhere, however that is why they are boxers, they have to resist all kinds of attacks.

Gervonta Davis will always look to connect, he is known to have power and so it will be a big test for Ryan to survived in Davis connect to this chin. He was able to get up against Campbell, and I do agree that he is not a knockout artist and so Ryan weathered that storm and win that big test of a fight.

But against a hard and power puncher like Davis, it will be a different fight for him. Actually both will have to readjust because Ryan too has that left hook that can knockout anyone if he touches them. So I guess whoever land that first power punch, will gain the momentum in this fight.

Well this is true, here I think the same thing, I think that whoever strikes the first blow will quickly gain confidence and what they have in fear or supposed respect will pass, because everyone thinks about what you say, in García's chin, However, I think that García is saved, he will not give an easy fight, mostly because the statistics are based on Davis winning the fight, and of course García is not stupid, he sees this information and makes him enter in much more concentration for their fight, in all instances I think this is something that all boxers experience and there are some who ignore it, but others don't, others get more itchy and begin to put in much more effort in their training, just to show that it is not.

Yeah, we know that both has the power and speed, but maybe it's the technique that will separate this two, who will likely be the first one to uses it? Will either one of them will be cautious in the fight and not go right away? And maybe that's why they want to have a tune up first, they really want to be sharp when they faces each other so better to have fight first and shake that ring rust.

Davis will be the slight odds favorite but Garcia will not be far behind. So again, execution and strategy will be the key in this fight, not just their power, the timing will need to be perfect in this fight.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: Japinat on December 14, 2022, 08:02:36 PM
I don't know what to say, both are unique fighters. Both have explosively powerful left hands. Ryan Garcia uses a straight guard, but his left hook is very strong. I'm not sure how durable Davis will be if Ryan Garcia hits, but I think he'll be very hard to catch. I think Davis will make more accurate hits. Apart from the hits, according to my analysis, according to the matches I watched, Davis is a unique fighter who fights more intelligently. I bet Garcia will get a TKO this fight.

Ryan was knockdown by Luke Campbell who is not known as a knockout puncher, it just shows that Ryan has a weak spot and a weak chin, and if Gervonta can connect just one punch then the fight is over, Tank can knock out just anybody with a single punch and we have seen that on many of his fight his match with SantaCruz is very terrifying when Leo was knocked out with one single uppercut, Tank can take a big punch, so its Ryan who will be in trouble when they fought.

Well there if you have the whole tree, for me this indicates that if Gervonta Davis can connect Garcia's chin it is something that can be very bad for him, I really don't blame Garcia because I know that a hit there to anyone throws him off, and Of course, in his case I would take care of myself, I wouldn't look for him to hit me there, always in boxing everyone has a weak point, it's where the kidneys are, a blow near the ribs doubles anyone and if he goes with a lot of power because even more so, just like in the genitals, that is something that cannot control the pain and obviously the strength goes elsewhere, however that is why they are boxers, they have to resist all kinds of attacks.

Gervonta Davis will always look to connect, he is known to have power and so it will be a big test for Ryan to survived in Davis connect to this chin. He was able to get up against Campbell, and I do agree that he is not a knockout artist and so Ryan weathered that storm and win that big test of a fight.

But against a hard and power puncher like Davis, it will be a different fight for him. Actually both will have to readjust because Ryan too has that left hook that can knockout anyone if he touches them. So I guess whoever land that first power punch, will gain the momentum in this fight.

Well this is true, here I think the same thing, I think that whoever strikes the first blow will quickly gain confidence and what they have in fear or supposed respect will pass, because everyone thinks about what you say, in García's chin, However, I think that García is saved, he will not give an easy fight, mostly because the statistics are based on Davis winning the fight, and of course García is not stupid, he sees this information and makes him enter in much more concentration for their fight, in all instances I think this is something that all boxers experience and there are some who ignore it, but others don't, others get more itchy and begin to put in much more effort in their training, just to show that it is not.

Yeah, we know that both has the power and speed, but maybe it's the technique that will separate this two, who will likely be the first one to uses it? Will either one of them will be cautious in the fight and not go right away? And maybe that's why they want to have a tune up first, they really want to be sharp when they faces each other so better to have fight first and shake that ring rust.

Davis will be the slight odds favorite but Garcia will not be far behind. So again, execution and strategy will be the key in this fight, not just their power, the timing will need to be perfect in this fight.

And what gives Tank a slight upper hand is his IQ in the ring that he got along with his experience which Ryan Garcia don't really have compared to Tank. But yes, both have what it takes to defeat each other as their both agile and a knockout artist too. I'm expecting that both boxers will be cautious at the first 2-3 rounds while testing the waters as well before they commence their plan and exchange powerful punches until one of them will survive. Now, who's who? This will be interesting.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: Fredomago on December 14, 2022, 08:58:28 PM

And what gives Tank a slight upper hand is his IQ in the ring that he got along with his experience which Ryan Garcia don't really have compared to Tank. But yes, both have what it takes to defeat each other as their both agile and a knockout artist too. I'm expecting that both boxers will be cautious at the first 2-3 rounds while testing the waters as well before they commence their plan and exchange powerful punches until one of them will survive. Now, who's who? This will be interesting.

And most of the time that advantage have a bigger impact, with experienced and ability to adjust with different fighting styles of your opponents Davis have that edge, Garcia though can throw solid punches but if Davis manage to counter and also converts most of his attempt it will bring Garcia to a difficult situation.

Davis is also a KO type fighter, he will also push for it if opportunity show up during the fight.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: Baofeng on December 15, 2022, 11:32:47 PM

And what gives Tank a slight upper hand is his IQ in the ring that he got along with his experience which Ryan Garcia don't really have compared to Tank. But yes, both have what it takes to defeat each other as their both agile and a knockout artist too. I'm expecting that both boxers will be cautious at the first 2-3 rounds while testing the waters as well before they commence their plan and exchange powerful punches until one of them will survive. Now, who's who? This will be interesting.

And most of the time that advantage have a bigger impact, with experienced and ability to adjust with different fighting styles of your opponents Davis have that edge, Garcia though can throw solid punches but if Davis manage to counter and also converts most of his attempt it will bring Garcia to a difficult situation.

Davis is also a KO type fighter, he will also push for it if opportunity show up during the fight.

One thing that Davis has improved a lot is that he is not looking for the KO initially, so he is not forcing it, as compare when it was in his early fight wherein you can see that he wants to knock everyone and be a show boat to his fans and critics.

And so as he improved his technique, the power became more evident as he possessed the proper way to throw a left hook with more power. So he has the experience now which is very dangerous to his opponent.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: Questat on December 16, 2022, 12:48:55 PM

And what gives Tank a slight upper hand is his IQ in the ring that he got along with his experience which Ryan Garcia don't really have compared to Tank. But yes, both have what it takes to defeat each other as their both agile and a knockout artist too. I'm expecting that both boxers will be cautious at the first 2-3 rounds while testing the waters as well before they commence their plan and exchange powerful punches until one of them will survive. Now, who's who? This will be interesting.

And most of the time that advantage have a bigger impact, with experienced and ability to adjust with different fighting styles of your opponents Davis have that edge, Garcia though can throw solid punches but if Davis manage to counter and also converts most of his attempt it will bring Garcia to a difficult situation.

Davis is also a KO type fighter, he will also push for it if opportunity show up during the fight.

One thing that Davis has improved a lot is that he is not looking for the KO initially, so he is not forcing it, as compare when it was in his early fight wherein you can see that he wants to knock everyone and be a show boat to his fans and critics.

And so as he improved his technique, the power became more evident as he possessed the proper way to throw a left hook with more power. So he has the experience now which is very dangerous to his opponent.

That's what we called as maturity, he learned it from his experience, maybe there are instances in the past when he regretted why he was too aggressive which resulted in him almost making a costly mistake. Good thing he realized early, unlike Pacman that he needs to be knockout cold by Marquez before he starts to be more careful in the ring.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: mirakal on December 16, 2022, 07:45:23 PM

And what gives Tank a slight upper hand is his IQ in the ring that he got along with his experience which Ryan Garcia don't really have compared to Tank. But yes, both have what it takes to defeat each other as their both agile and a knockout artist too. I'm expecting that both boxers will be cautious at the first 2-3 rounds while testing the waters as well before they commence their plan and exchange powerful punches until one of them will survive. Now, who's who? This will be interesting.

And most of the time that advantage have a bigger impact, with experienced and ability to adjust with different fighting styles of your opponents Davis have that edge, Garcia though can throw solid punches but if Davis manage to counter and also converts most of his attempt it will bring Garcia to a difficult situation.

Davis is also a KO type fighter, he will also push for it if opportunity show up during the fight.

One thing that Davis has improved a lot is that he is not looking for the KO initially, so he is not forcing it, as compare when it was in his early fight wherein you can see that he wants to knock everyone and be a show boat to his fans and critics.

And so as he improved his technique, the power became more evident as he possessed the proper way to throw a left hook with more power. So he has the experience now which is very dangerous to his opponent.

That's what we called as maturity, he learned it from his experience, maybe there are instances in the past when he regretted why he was too aggressive which resulted in him almost making a costly mistake. Good thing he realized early, unlike Pacman that he needs to be knockout cold by Marquez before he starts to be more careful in the ring.

And that gives him an upper hand because of what he learned on his experience, being aggressive can only do good if you can give your opponent the element of surprise but how about if the opposite happens where that same opponent is already expecting for you to do it? So, yes, just like you said, it will be an expensive mistake. Tank already learned his lesson that is why now he is thinking few steps ahead before engaging.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on December 16, 2022, 08:02:24 PM

Yes, hard nut to crack, although against Isaac Cruz he was extend to full 12 rounds and there are moments that Cruz is very successful on hitting Davis.

For Ryan, the big test is when he was knock down by Campbell and then get up and still win the fight.

So both has been tested before in their career and still won, but this is very different fight for them. Specially for Ryan who have been calling Davis for a long time. Not sure what his 'fixation' with Davis that he thinks he can beat him easily.



Ryan needs to prove something because he keeps asking for this fight, now that he already have the chance of beating Davis he should put all his stake here, he needs to work harder in his training adding more spice to recreate his fighting style, if he will show the same form Davis may out-speed him and use that advantage to keep scorecard in his favor.

We don't know, though, if what will happen after, the trainings and sparring drills will help both fighters to find the right sets of combinations.

Many are thinking that García may be the weak link here in this meeting, but I think that due to all that has been speculated, he must see all the statistics, he must manage everything that is around him, social networks, him You should receive all the information and the latest updates that there are in many fans, boxers, possible videos of Davis, all this helps you create not one but many strategies to be able to beat a very heavyweight like DAVIS, they say that DAVIS is one of the boxers who will most seek to have a knockout against Ryan, but it will be a matter of watching, for me Garcia is having a training session from another world.

Some of the things I didn't know about Davis:

Gervonta Davis: "I Ain't Trying To Be In This Too Much Longer"


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While he's enjoying his time underneath the pugilistic spotlight, Gervonta Davis has always been aware that his time as a professional boxer would be transient.

First things first, however, before Davis officially rides off into the sunset, he has quite a few goals to check off his to-do list. On January 7th, at the Capital One Arena in Washington D.C., Davis will square off against Hector Luis Garcia. If everything goes according to plan, the 28-year-old will then move into a showdown against Ryan Garcia.

Nevertheless, victories against the Garcia's wouldn't represent the end all be all for Davis. More than anything, the Baltimore native is motivated to prove that his fellow contemporaries such as Devin Haney and Shakur Stevenson, simply aren't on his level. Should Davis secure wins over those aforementioned names, he reveals that his boxing Hitlist will be complete.

"I ain't gonna lie, I ain't really trying to be in this too much longer," said Davis on Morning Kombat. "Once I get them guys out of here, I'm gone."

Source: https://www.boxingscene.com/gervonta-davis-i-trying-this-too-much-longer--171206 (https://www.boxingscene.com/gervonta-davis-i-trying-this-too-much-longer--171206)


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: Fredomago on December 16, 2022, 09:44:32 PM

And that gives him an upper hand because of what he learned on his experience, being aggressive can only do good if you can give your opponent the element of surprise but how about if the opposite happens where that same opponent is already expecting for you to do it? So, yes, just like you said, it will be an expensive mistake. Tank already learned his lesson that is why now he is thinking few steps ahead before engaging.

A kind of adjustments which mostly work well when inside the ring, analysing your opponents in a few rounds and then try to re-create a good strategy to win the fight, Davis will do his best for sure, as he knows that Garcia will also do the same, a good fight to watch out if both will win their separate fight next year.

They have an early year upcoming fight before meeting each other inside the ring. It would be a good hypes but both need to win
to bring more fans' attentions and support.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: Sanitough on December 17, 2022, 06:03:35 PM

And that gives him an upper hand because of what he learned on his experience, being aggressive can only do good if you can give your opponent the element of surprise but how about if the opposite happens where that same opponent is already expecting for you to do it? So, yes, just like you said, it will be an expensive mistake. Tank already learned his lesson that is why now he is thinking few steps ahead before engaging.

A kind of adjustments which mostly work well when inside the ring, analysing your opponents in a few rounds and then try to re-create a good strategy to win the fight, Davis will do his best for sure, as he knows that Garcia will also do the same, a good fight to watch out if both will win their separate fight next year.

They have an early year upcoming fight before meeting each other inside the ring. It would be a good hypes but both need to win
to bring more fans' attentions and support.

Not anymore because Ryan Garcia and his camp cancelled his own tune-up fight against Gesta this January, now, Tank Davis will be the one who will be having his tune-up fight in the same month against another Garcia. It is not clear why but I bet they had a good reasons why they cancelled it and will just prepare and train ahead while Davis is still busy on his fight.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: mirakal on December 21, 2022, 06:09:46 PM

And that gives him an upper hand because of what he learned on his experience, being aggressive can only do good if you can give your opponent the element of surprise but how about if the opposite happens where that same opponent is already expecting for you to do it? So, yes, just like you said, it will be an expensive mistake. Tank already learned his lesson that is why now he is thinking few steps ahead before engaging.

A kind of adjustments which mostly work well when inside the ring, analysing your opponents in a few rounds and then try to re-create a good strategy to win the fight, Davis will do his best for sure, as he knows that Garcia will also do the same, a good fight to watch out if both will win their separate fight next year.

They have an early year upcoming fight before meeting each other inside the ring. It would be a good hypes but both need to win
to bring more fans' attentions and support.

Yes, it will be a battle of brains as well because they sure both know that they are both capable to knock out if they can give and land a clean shot. This fight is already getting me interested, I just hope that they will ink their contract soon so that this fight will be official and final, and fans will be delighted because they know that this time they aren't in for a ride ;D Also, I'm just confused with Tank's statement lately because he suddenly throws an issue with no proof that his future foe, Ryan Garcia is taking PEDs.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on December 22, 2022, 02:14:33 AM

Yes, hard nut to crack, although against Isaac Cruz he was extend to full 12 rounds and there are moments that Cruz is very successful on hitting Davis.

For Ryan, the big test is when he was knock down by Campbell and then get up and still win the fight.

So both has been tested before in their career and still won, but this is very different fight for them. Specially for Ryan who have been calling Davis for a long time. Not sure what his 'fixation' with Davis that he thinks he can beat him easily.



Ryan needs to prove something because he keeps asking for this fight, now that he already have the chance of beating Davis he should put all his stake here, he needs to work harder in his training adding more spice to recreate his fighting style, if he will show the same form Davis may out-speed him and use that advantage to keep scorecard in his favor.

We don't know, though, if what will happen after, the trainings and sparring drills will help both fighters to find the right sets of combinations.

After Garcia fought Campbell, he hasn't fought heavy players anymore and let Golden Boy get him two cherry-picked fights. We cannot yet tell if Garcia has indeed improved after Campbell solved him and told the world what his weakness is. I agree, if Garcia hasn't improved after that and will show against Davis not fully prepared, the latter will just get him embarrassed in-front of the public and might give him another mental issues.

Well, what happened with Garcia is something that can be treated with a little more measure, I think that these things can improve, if we take into account that now Garcia has been improving greatly, I think that Davis should face him with the same intensity as always He has faced his opponents, a Garcia who could have had problems for whatever reason to stand in a ring and challenge someone who can do him a lot of damage is something very serious, and anyone would take care that his integrity is not damaged, That's the first thing we should think about, I think this fight will be very interesting, there are many things at stake.




In another order of ideas we have:

De La Hoya respects Gervonta Davis for taking Hector Garcia fight for tune-up for Ryan

https://i.imgur.com/eVvSvIy.png

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By Dan Ambrose: Oscar De La Hoya respects Gervonta ‘Tank’ Davis for choosing to fight Hector Luis Garcia as his tune-up opponent on January 7th to get him ready for his mega-bout against Golden Boy Promotions/DAZN/Instagram star Ryan Garcia on April 15th.

Oscar had very little praise for his fighter Ryan for choosing not to take a tune-up, and he feels this is a “mistake” on his part because it would have helped him.

De La Hoya admits that Hector Garcia (16-0, 10 KOs) isn’t a real tune-up because he’s a world champion and viewed as a threat to the unbeaten Tank Davis (27-0, 25 KOs), although Golden Boy views him as such.

For his part, the 23-year-old Ryan (23-0, 19 KOs) has changed his mind about facing Mercito Gesta in a warm-up fight on January 28th.

Source: https://www.boxingnews24.com/2022/12/de-la-hoya-respects-gervonta-davis-for-taking-hector-garcia-fight-for-tune-up-for-ryan/ (https://www.boxingnews24.com/2022/12/de-la-hoya-respects-gervonta-davis-for-taking-hector-garcia-fight-for-tune-up-for-ryan/)


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: Yamifoud on December 22, 2022, 09:32:12 AM
Also, I'm just confused with Tank's statement lately because he suddenly throws an issue with no proof that his future foe, Ryan Garcia is taking PEDs.

What's his intention with his statement? I think it boost my confidence in Garcia that he could beat Tank if they will fight. This kind of statement are from fighters who are already making excuses because they believe that they have a chance to lose in the fight, so if in case Davis losses, we already know what's his excuse.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: carlisle1 on December 22, 2022, 02:07:58 PM
Also, I'm just confused with Tank's statement lately because he suddenly throws an issue with no proof that his future foe, Ryan Garcia is taking PEDs.

What's his intention with his statement? I think it boost my confidence in Garcia that he could beat Tank if they will fight. This kind of statement are from fighters who are already making excuses because they believe that they have a chance to lose in the fight, so if in case Davis losses, we already know what's his excuse.

We don't know what was behind those statements. Maybe yes, it's an excuse or maybe it's also possible that he just trying to bring more interest
to Garcia's fans to engage them and a possible tickets sale.

Whatever it is, just bring entertaining and enjoyable fight to watch will be the best offer that both Davis and Garcia can bring to all fans
who wanted to see them inside the ring.

Let's all wait and see if how they will perform and who will dominate the fight.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: btc_angela on December 22, 2022, 02:35:48 PM
Also, I'm just confused with Tank's statement lately because he suddenly throws an issue with no proof that his future foe, Ryan Garcia is taking PEDs.

What's his intention with his statement? I think it boost my confidence in Garcia that he could beat Tank if they will fight. This kind of statement are from fighters who are already making excuses because they believe that they have a chance to lose in the fight, so if in case Davis losses, we already know what's his excuse.

Nothing, it's just hearsay, just like when Manny was accused of taking PEDS as well when he was destroying everyone in his path. There are no proof of it, whether VADA or USADA testing on Ryan. So probably this is just Davis, trying to make Ryan uncomfortable with this kind of attacks because he knows that Ryan has history of mental issues so he is attacking him personally. And maybe he thinks that Ryan will be affected in their fight, lost his motivation with his unbiased accusations.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: Yaunfitda on December 22, 2022, 02:38:53 PM
Also, I'm just confused with Tank's statement lately because he suddenly throws an issue with no proof that his future foe, Ryan Garcia is taking PEDs.

What's his intention with his statement? I think it boost my confidence in Garcia that he could beat Tank if they will fight. This kind of statement are from fighters who are already making excuses because they believe that they have a chance to lose in the fight, so if in case Davis losses, we already know what's his excuse.

Nothing, it's just hearsay, just like when Manny was accused of taking PEDS as well when he was destroying everyone in his path. There are no proof of it, whether VADA or USADA testing on Ryan. So probably this is just Davis, trying to make Ryan uncomfortable with this kind of attacks because he knows that Ryan has history of mental issues so he is attacking him personally. And maybe he thinks that Ryan will be affected in their fight, lost his motivation with his unbiased accusations.
And on the contrary, it could backfire on Davis himself, because he has no proof except a picture of Ryan in which Garcia was too big. Definitely, it's the off season and boxers too gain some weight when they are not fighting.

What I mean is that if could backfire if Ryan will take this attack and used this as his motivation to beat Tank now.

Yes, it's a mental game and his team should know about this kind of insults will come.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: mirakal on December 22, 2022, 03:36:12 PM
In another order of ideas we have:

De La Hoya respects Gervonta Davis for taking Hector Garcia fight for tune-up for Ryan

https://i.imgur.com/eVvSvIy.png

Quote
By Dan Ambrose: Oscar De La Hoya respects Gervonta ‘Tank’ Davis for choosing to fight Hector Luis Garcia as his tune-up opponent on January 7th to get him ready for his mega-bout against Golden Boy Promotions/DAZN/Instagram star Ryan Garcia on April 15th.

Oscar had very little praise for his fighter Ryan for choosing not to take a tune-up, and he feels this is a “mistake” on his part because it would have helped him.

De La Hoya admits that Hector Garcia (16-0, 10 KOs) isn’t a real tune-up because he’s a world champion and viewed as a threat to the unbeaten Tank Davis (27-0, 25 KOs), although Golden Boy views him as such.

For his part, the 23-year-old Ryan (23-0, 19 KOs) has changed his mind about facing Mercito Gesta in a warm-up fight on January 28th.

Source: https://www.boxingnews24.com/2022/12/de-la-hoya-respects-gervonta-davis-for-taking-hector-garcia-fight-for-tune-up-for-ryan/ (https://www.boxingnews24.com/2022/12/de-la-hoya-respects-gervonta-davis-for-taking-hector-garcia-fight-for-tune-up-for-ryan/)


I see, thank you for this information mate.

I always thought that Ryan Garcia and his camp (including Golden Boy) made the choice and that they have some reasons why it's better for Ryan not to have that tune-up fight, but it seems that it wasn't the case here. Ryan Garcia made the choice by himself and without giving a second thought about it. I agree that it would be a great help for Ryan Garcia to face Gesta first before Tank to get himself accustomed and have some first-hand experience about Tank's movements because Gesta moves like that too.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: Fredomago on December 22, 2022, 07:44:16 PM
Also, I'm just confused with Tank's statement lately because he suddenly throws an issue with no proof that his future foe, Ryan Garcia is taking PEDs.

What's his intention with his statement? I think it boost my confidence in Garcia that he could beat Tank if they will fight. This kind of statement are from fighters who are already making excuses because they believe that they have a chance to lose in the fight, so if in case Davis losses, we already know what's his excuse.

Nothing, it's just hearsay, just like when Manny was accused of taking PEDS as well when he was destroying everyone in his path. There are no proof of it, whether VADA or USADA testing on Ryan. So probably this is just Davis, trying to make Ryan uncomfortable with this kind of attacks because he knows that Ryan has history of mental issues so he is attacking him personally. And maybe he thinks that Ryan will be affected in their fight, lost his motivation with his unbiased accusations.

He's trying to bring it inside Garcia and makes him feel uncomfortable, but I think it will motivate him more, if Garcia will manage to take this one as pro as it will be a good sign that he will aim for more, Davis is a good step to make his name to hype up and bring more title matches and money fights.

It's a good challenge for him after all those critical years of his career. He needs to convert this kind of issue into a good motivation to train well and be ready in their upcoming fight.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: aioc on December 22, 2022, 10:09:12 PM


I always thought that Ryan Garcia and his camp (including Golden Boy) made the choice and that they have some reasons why it's better for Ryan not to have that tune-up fight, but it seems that it wasn't the case here. Ryan Garcia made the choice by himself and without giving a second thought about it. I agree that it would be a great help for Ryan Garcia to face Gesta first before Tank to get himself accustomed and have some first-hand experience about Tank's movements because Gesta moves like that too.

There were tune fights that ended in upsets, and some big names and legendary boxers have suffered from upsets, like Tommy Morrison, Lennox Lewis, and Mike Tyson, what appear to be easy fights and tune fights for multi-million deals turned into upsets
I will not rule out an upset here, Hector Garcia is a champion, and got a good record he should be motivated to give his all because it will benefit him more and will catapult his name to the top.
But Tank is a risk taker and always ready to take on just anybody something that is missing on Ryan Garcia, they have contrasting characters and personalities.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: BitcoinPanther on December 22, 2022, 10:36:20 PM
Also, I'm just confused with Tank's statement lately because he suddenly throws an issue with no proof that his future foe, Ryan Garcia is taking PEDs.

What's his intention with his statement? I think it boost my confidence in Garcia that he could beat Tank if they will fight. This kind of statement are from fighters who are already making excuses because they believe that they have a chance to lose in the fight, so if in case Davis losses, we already know what's his excuse.

I have read this comment of Davis, I think Davis is somehow surprised how Garcia become well built in a short span of time.  So he thinks that Ryan is  taking PED.   The thought of Ryan getting bulky threatens Davis so the latter is worried that there is a huge possibility that he may not be able to withstand Garcia punches and may KO him during the fight.  So he is making an assumption that Garcia is taking PED, also he is calling that out so that the sanctioning body will conduct a test if Ryan is taking PEDs.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: Baofeng on December 22, 2022, 11:39:17 PM
We have been speculating that Davis is no longer with Floyd Mayweather, but this is the official confirmation:

Quote
“First and foremost, love to Mayweather Promotions and all that they have done for me, but I am definitely out of my contract, for sure,” Davis said in a Twitter Spaces conversation hosted by @LazyLeftyOG. 

https://www.boxingscene.com/gervonta-davis-confirms-hes-not-contractually-tied-mayweather-all-love-no-bad-blood--170957

So that's it, at least we don't need to speculate any more and probably this is the main reason why the fight is going to happen. No stumbling block whatsoever.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: Fredomago on December 23, 2022, 08:13:02 AM
We have been speculating that Davis is no longer with Floyd Mayweather, but this is the official confirmation:

Quote
“First and foremost, love to Mayweather Promotions and all that they have done for me, but I am definitely out of my contract, for sure,” Davis said in a Twitter Spaces conversation hosted by @LazyLeftyOG. 

https://www.boxingscene.com/gervonta-davis-confirms-hes-not-contractually-tied-mayweather-all-love-no-bad-blood--170957

So that's it, at least we don't need to speculate any more and probably this is the main reason why the fight is going to happen. No stumbling block whatsoever.

The confirmation gives him all the right to fight to whoever he wants and he will take all the opportunities to make things happen especially with those who are challenging him. On hos upcoming fight, the chance of upset is possible but knowing Davis he will take that risk to hype his career and bring the entertainment to his fans and followers.

We just need to wait for him and Hector Garcia on these upcoming tune up before he will face the other Garcia.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: Oasisman on December 23, 2022, 09:28:28 AM
Also, I'm just confused with Tank's statement lately because he suddenly throws an issue with no proof that his future foe, Ryan Garcia is taking PEDs.

What's his intention with his statement? I think it boost my confidence in Garcia that he could beat Tank if they will fight. This kind of statement are from fighters who are already making excuses because they believe that they have a chance to lose in the fight, so if in case Davis losses, we already know what's his excuse.

Well, guess what? This line and the situation is very familiar lol. Yeah! That was when Mayweather were afraid and worried regarding his perfect record after seeing Pacquiao dominating great fighters.
Throwing excuses during pre fight is worse than making excuses after lossing the fight.
That's the downside of having a perfect record, fighter tends to avoid fighting another great fighter just to retain that perfect record as much as possible until he retires.
Look at Spence and Crawford, the match seems vaguely happens, because non of them wants an L on their records.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: Kelvinid on December 23, 2022, 01:39:41 PM
Also, I'm just confused with Tank's statement lately because he suddenly throws an issue with no proof that his future foe, Ryan Garcia is taking PEDs.

What's his intention with his statement? I think it boost my confidence in Garcia that he could beat Tank if they will fight. This kind of statement are from fighters who are already making excuses because they believe that they have a chance to lose in the fight, so if in case Davis losses, we already know what's his excuse.

Well, guess what? This line and the situation is very familiar lol. Yeah! That was when Mayweather were afraid and worried regarding his perfect record after seeing Pacquiao dominating great fighters.
Throwing excuses during pre fight is worse than making excuses after lossing the fight.
That's the downside of having a perfect record, fighter tends to avoid fighting another great fighter just to retain that perfect record as much as possible until he retires.
Look at Spence and Crawford, the match seems vaguely happens, because non of them wants an L on their records.

They change the real definition of a great boxer, they think that once they retire with an undefeated record, that will make them a great boxer. Unfortunately, that is wrong, not all the time as even Mayweather who retired as undefeated, but still, many fans would choose Pacman over him as the greatest boxer of their generation.

Thurman was lucky to have fought Pacman, although he lose but he will always be remembered as a strong warrior who is not afraid of an L in his record.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: mirakal on December 23, 2022, 06:29:30 PM


I always thought that Ryan Garcia and his camp (including Golden Boy) made the choice and that they have some reasons why it's better for Ryan not to have that tune-up fight, but it seems that it wasn't the case here. Ryan Garcia made the choice by himself and without giving a second thought about it. I agree that it would be a great help for Ryan Garcia to face Gesta first before Tank to get himself accustomed and have some first-hand experience about Tank's movements because Gesta moves like that too.

There were tune fights that ended in upsets, and some big names and legendary boxers have suffered from upsets, like Tommy Morrison, Lennox Lewis, and Mike Tyson, what appear to be easy fights and tune fights for multi-million deals turned into upsets
I will not rule out an upset here, Hector Garcia is a champion, and got a good record he should be motivated to give his all because it will benefit him more and will catapult his name to the top.
But Tank is a risk taker and always ready to take on just anybody something that is missing on Ryan Garcia, they have contrasting characters and personalities.

There are no issues in Tank's side because I know that he can overcome it successfully, it will be a good tune-up fight for him for sure and the experience he will gain from fighting against a champion will help Tank's case to silence Ryan Garcia. But how about Ryan Garcia? His tune-up fight would be a great help for him as well, but he chose not to. Upsets will be always around lurking in the shadows, it's in the boxer if how will he handle the risks.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: Cling18 on December 23, 2022, 06:30:55 PM
Also, I'm just confused with Tank's statement lately because he suddenly throws an issue with no proof that his future foe, Ryan Garcia is taking PEDs.

What's his intention with his statement? I think it boost my confidence in Garcia that he could beat Tank if they will fight. This kind of statement are from fighters who are already making excuses because they believe that they have a chance to lose in the fight, so if in case Davis losses, we already know what's his excuse.

Well, guess what? This line and the situation is very familiar lol. Yeah! That was when Mayweather were afraid and worried regarding his perfect record after seeing Pacquiao dominating great fighters.
Throwing excuses during pre fight is worse than making excuses after lossing the fight.
That's the downside of having a perfect record, fighter tends to avoid fighting another great fighter just to retain that perfect record as much as possible until he retires.
Look at Spence and Crawford, the match seems vaguely happens, because non of them wants an L on their records.

They change the real definition of a great boxer, they think that once they retire with an undefeated record, that will make them a great boxer. Unfortunately, that is wrong, not all the time as even Mayweather who retired as undefeated, but still, many fans would choose Pacman over him as the greatest boxer of their generation.

Thurman was lucky to have fought Pacman, although he lose but he will always be remembered as a strong warrior who is not afraid of an L in his record.

Being undefeated doesn't make them the all time favorite boxers because viewers are observant and they know who the real good fighters are. Even great fighters experience losses and if a boxer really wants to prove his strength, he shouldn't be afraid to face anyone who wants to fight him not just because he wants to keep a perfect record. They shouldn't be making excuses.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: cryptomaniac_xxx on December 23, 2022, 08:44:13 PM
We have been speculating that Davis is no longer with Floyd Mayweather, but this is the official confirmation:

Quote
“First and foremost, love to Mayweather Promotions and all that they have done for me, but I am definitely out of my contract, for sure,” Davis said in a Twitter Spaces conversation hosted by @LazyLeftyOG. 

https://www.boxingscene.com/gervonta-davis-confirms-hes-not-contractually-tied-mayweather-all-love-no-bad-blood--170957

So that's it, at least we don't need to speculate any more and probably this is the main reason why the fight is going to happen. No stumbling block whatsoever.

The confirmation gives him all the right to fight to whoever he wants and he will take all the opportunities to make things happen especially with those who are challenging him. On hos upcoming fight, the chance of upset is possible but knowing Davis he will take that risk to hype his career and bring the entertainment to his fans and followers.

We just need to wait for him and Hector Garcia on these upcoming tune up before he will face the other Garcia.

Yes, and I think there is no bad blood between him, Floyd and his team really did a good job for Tank, although one thing though is that he didn't become a regular champion but probably just fighting for the money itself as this is the blue print for Floyd's career, known to be Money Mayweather.

Hopefully with this decision, Tanks will go after the champion, first a huge fight with Ryan and then Haney or Loma or Shakur Stevenson.

Lots of good fight for him in the 135 lbs and hopefully get at least one good and regular belt.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: Vaculin on December 25, 2022, 07:24:40 PM
Also, I'm just confused with Tank's statement lately because he suddenly throws an issue with no proof that his future foe, Ryan Garcia is taking PEDs.

What's his intention with his statement? I think it boost my confidence in Garcia that he could beat Tank if they will fight. This kind of statement are from fighters who are already making excuses because they believe that they have a chance to lose in the fight, so if in case Davis losses, we already know what's his excuse.

Well, guess what? This line and the situation is very familiar lol. Yeah! That was when Mayweather were afraid and worried regarding his perfect record after seeing Pacquiao dominating great fighters.
Throwing excuses during pre fight is worse than making excuses after lossing the fight.
That's the downside of having a perfect record, fighter tends to avoid fighting another great fighter just to retain that perfect record as much as possible until he retires.
Look at Spence and Crawford, the match seems vaguely happens, because non of them wants an L on their records.

They change the real definition of a great boxer, they think that once they retire with an undefeated record, that will make them a great boxer. Unfortunately, that is wrong, not all the time as even Mayweather who retired as undefeated, but still, many fans would choose Pacman over him as the greatest boxer of their generation.

Thurman was lucky to have fought Pacman, although he lose but he will always be remembered as a strong warrior who is not afraid of an L in his record.

Being undefeated doesn't make them the all time favorite boxers because viewers are observant and they know who the real good fighters are. Even great fighters experience losses and if a boxer really wants to prove his strength, he shouldn't be afraid to face anyone who wants to fight him not just because he wants to keep a perfect record. They shouldn't be making excuses.

We just cannot blame them if they chose that path where risks are minimized and they can retire without any single loss in their whole career, although, they cannot also blame the people if they won't get any praises from what they expected because people really know what's the score. And in every bout that you avoid, people will also lose that respect because they will no longer believe that you are strong and haven't feared anybody. Just like what's happening with Errol Spence Jr. now.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: carlisle1 on December 26, 2022, 11:47:34 AM

We just cannot blame them if they chose that path where risks are minimized and they can retire without any single loss in their whole career, although, they cannot also blame the people if they won't get any praises from what they expected because people really know what's the score. And in every bout that you avoid, people will also lose that respect because they will no longer believe that you are strong and haven't feared anybody. Just like what's happening with Errol Spence Jr. now.

If that's the decision they choose then so be it, I agree with your argument both ends have their respected rights in order to choose
what they've believed.

If fighter decided not to pick a risky matchup, then it is their right not to do it, while earning respect and praises from the fans might not be there
but the money and the belts are enough as an achievement.

It's their journey whatever path they choose to travel then we can't force them to change directions.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: Blawpaw on December 26, 2022, 01:58:18 PM
We are looking at a fight where both fighters have been undefeated and both hold several knockout wins, so everything can happen. This will be a tough fight for both as each fighter will try to keep their status and go forward undefeated. I'm holding my grudge against this one and probably will not bet on this fight.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: Vaculin on December 26, 2022, 02:52:40 PM

We just cannot blame them if they chose that path where risks are minimized and they can retire without any single loss in their whole career, although, they cannot also blame the people if they won't get any praises from what they expected because people really know what's the score. And in every bout that you avoid, people will also lose that respect because they will no longer believe that you are strong and haven't feared anybody. Just like what's happening with Errol Spence Jr. now.

If that's the decision they choose then so be it, I agree with your argument both ends have their respected rights in order to choose
what they've believed.

If fighter decided not to pick a risky matchup, then it is their right not to do it, while earning respect and praises from the fans might not be there
but the money and the belts are enough as an achievement.

It's their journey whatever path they choose to travel then we can't force them to change directions.

Exactly, they have the right to do it because that is their life and as fans, we cannot really dictate what path should they take because they are also thinking of their safety. After all, boxing industry and other combat sports is still a business where the parties involved just wanted to make money as big as possible.

Back on the topic, I'm already excited to see this fight and I bet it will be an explosive one because both parties is a knock-out artisan, and of course, after the fact that this bout is already possible after years of going back and forth, and throwing words at each other. Finally, they can settle this rivalry.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: Baofeng on December 26, 2022, 10:31:52 PM
And according to Ryan Garcia's trainer, the fame Joe Goossen, Ryan is the harder puncher of the two,

Quote
“The thing is, I think per square inch, Ryan possesses a much heavier punch [than Davis]. I believe that for a particular reason. With that said, neither one of these guys want to get hit with the other guy’s best shot.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/ryan-garcia-packs-heavier-punch-tank-davis-says-trainer-joe-goossen--171395

Obviously, he will praise Garcia and tell us what advantage he has against Tank not just in terms of power though.

And I do agree, either one doesn't want to get hit by the other one because for sure this is going to be a knock out. And the one that blinks in this fight, will wake up in the canvass after they get hit.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: Saisher on December 26, 2022, 10:47:04 PM
And according to Ryan Garcia's trainer, the fame Joe Goossen, Ryan is the harder puncher of the two,

Quote
“The thing is, I think per square inch, Ryan possesses a much heavier punch [than Davis]. I believe that for a particular reason. With that said, neither one of these guys want to get hit with the other guy’s best shot.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/ryan-garcia-packs-heavier-punch-tank-davis-says-trainer-joe-goossen--171395

Obviously, he will praise Garcia and tell us what advantage he has against Tank not just in terms of power though.

And I do agree, either one doesn't want to get hit by the other one because for sure this is going to be a knock out. And the one that blinks in this fight, will wake up in the canvass after they get hit.

I also believe that Ryan has the power to knock out just everyone in the ring but he lacks good names in his resume until now he has not fought for the title, there's one popular video that Haney wants him badly but his promoters are in the process of building up Ryan Garcia and Haney is one guy that can bust that build-up, so that is why so many of Ryan's fights are cherry-picked, right now he is just an Instagram champion, not a legitimate champion in the eyes of many boxing aficionados. 


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: mirakal on December 27, 2022, 06:44:26 PM
And according to Ryan Garcia's trainer, the fame Joe Goossen, Ryan is the harder puncher of the two,

Quote
“The thing is, I think per square inch, Ryan possesses a much heavier punch [than Davis]. I believe that for a particular reason. With that said, neither one of these guys want to get hit with the other guy’s best shot.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/ryan-garcia-packs-heavier-punch-tank-davis-says-trainer-joe-goossen--171395

Obviously, he will praise Garcia and tell us what advantage he has against Tank not just in terms of power though.

And I do agree, either one doesn't want to get hit by the other one because for sure this is going to be a knock out. And the one that blinks in this fight, will wake up in the canvass after they get hit.

I also believe that Ryan has the power to knock out just everyone in the ring but he lacks good names in his resume until now he has not fought for the title, there's one popular video that Haney wants him badly but his promoters are in the process of building up Ryan Garcia and Haney is one guy that can bust that build-up, so that is why so many of Ryan's fights are cherry-picked, right now he is just an Instagram champion, not a legitimate champion in the eyes of many boxing aficionados. 

Well, we never know as there is always a first time for everything. This might be the first time for Ryan Garcia to add a good name in his resume and become a title holder, why not, right? I know that Gervonta Davis is a whole lot different monster too but Ryan Garcia do have a good shot in defeating the current title holder. So, maybe soon we can see Ryan Garcia climbing the ranks of the lightweight division.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: carlisle1 on December 27, 2022, 08:15:48 PM

We just cannot blame them if they chose that path where risks are minimized and they can retire without any single loss in their whole career, although, they cannot also blame the people if they won't get any praises from what they expected because people really know what's the score. And in every bout that you avoid, people will also lose that respect because they will no longer believe that you are strong and haven't feared anybody. Just like what's happening with Errol Spence Jr. now.

If that's the decision they choose then so be it, I agree with your argument both ends have their respected rights in order to choose
what they've believed.

If fighter decided not to pick a risky matchup, then it is their right not to do it, while earning respect and praises from the fans might not be there
but the money and the belts are enough as an achievement.

It's their journey whatever path they choose to travel then we can't force them to change directions.

Exactly, they have the right to do it because that is their life and as fans, we cannot really dictate what path should they take because they are also thinking of their safety. After all, boxing industry and other combat sports is still a business where the parties involved just wanted to make money as big as possible.

Back on the topic, I'm already excited to see this fight and I bet it will be an explosive one because both parties is a knock-out artisan, and of course, after the fact that this bout is already possible after years of going back and forth, and throwing words at each other. Finally, they can settle this rivalry.

Finally, they are in the negotiating process, unless Davis will be upset by another Garcia which is schedule to fight him early next
year then we might see a change of directions.

But it seems that the upcoming fight is just to warmed up Davis not sure though, I don't know the other Garcia.

I'm more excited to see these fight to take place, just like what you are saying it's been a while for these two fighters,
finally they are going to meet inside the ring.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on December 28, 2022, 05:01:33 PM
In general terms, I think that Gervonta wants to give herself a break and one of the best ways is to win her fight against Garcia, but we all know how Garcia reacts when they tell each other that they are trying to minimize him or that they are trying to tell him that he is below the standard. average or not up to Davis's level, I've seen Davis' style and it's very good, it's powerful, it's effective and above all I like his combinations, it also seems that he would fight without doing a routine or following a script or more well what is being said, he does not hype his movements, but innovates and always turns to surprise, and that is something that not all boxers have, because many manage and measure their strength, speed and resistance to avoid falling into a knockout or not run out of strength.



In another order of ideas, Gervonta Davis says something strong here:

Gervonta Davis Believes Boxers Use Mental Health As An 'Excuse' To 'Get Out Of Stuff'

Quote
Garcia, 24, has been open since then about the importance of addressing mental health, even in the hardened world of boxing. Davis doesn’t buy it.

“You never heard no back-in-the-day fighter talk about mental health,” Davis said following his training session at 5th Ave. Gym in Miami Beach, Florida. “I think boxing people is the most, probably, the most – we need mental health to actually come in the ring and fight and things like that. I think we probably the most, the toughest out of the whole like combat sports. You know what I mean?

“I feel as though that people just was saying that to get out of stuff. Yeah, like a excuse because I feel as though like we all, to be honest, we all have like mental health [issues]. But I think [in] boxing we control it. You know how it is. You know what I mean?”

Source: https://www.boxingscene.com/gervonta-davis-believes-boxers-use-mental-health-an-excuse-get-out-stuff--171408 (https://www.boxingscene.com/gervonta-davis-believes-boxers-use-mental-health-an-excuse-get-out-stuff--171408)


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: freedomgo on December 28, 2022, 07:33:07 PM
And according to Ryan Garcia's trainer, the fame Joe Goossen, Ryan is the harder puncher of the two,

Quote
“The thing is, I think per square inch, Ryan possesses a much heavier punch [than Davis]. I believe that for a particular reason. With that said, neither one of these guys want to get hit with the other guy’s best shot.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/ryan-garcia-packs-heavier-punch-tank-davis-says-trainer-joe-goossen--171395

Obviously, he will praise Garcia and tell us what advantage he has against Tank not just in terms of power though.

And I do agree, either one doesn't want to get hit by the other one because for sure this is going to be a knock out. And the one that blinks in this fight, will wake up in the canvass after they get hit.

Of course he will ;D Joe could praise Ryan Garcia about his capabilities forever and talk about who's got more heavier punch between Ryan and Gervonta but Joe forgot that that's not the only thing that matters because somebody can throw a much heavier punch but there will be always that somebody too that can withstand those heavy punch that could lead to a KO. Talking about the ability to withstand, I bet Ryan Garcia doesn't have that.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: carlisle1 on December 28, 2022, 09:18:04 PM
And according to Ryan Garcia's trainer, the fame Joe Goossen, Ryan is the harder puncher of the two,

Quote
“The thing is, I think per square inch, Ryan possesses a much heavier punch [than Davis]. I believe that for a particular reason. With that said, neither one of these guys want to get hit with the other guy’s best shot.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/ryan-garcia-packs-heavier-punch-tank-davis-says-trainer-joe-goossen--171395

Obviously, he will praise Garcia and tell us what advantage he has against Tank not just in terms of power though.

And I do agree, either one doesn't want to get hit by the other one because for sure this is going to be a knock out. And the one that blinks in this fight, will wake up in the canvass after they get hit.

Of course he will ;D Joe could praise Ryan Garcia about his capabilities forever and talk about who's got more heavier punch between Ryan and Gervonta but Joe forgot that that's not the only thing that matters because somebody can throw a much heavier punch but there will be always that somebody too that can withstand those heavy punch that could lead to a KO. Talking about the ability to withstand, I bet Ryan Garcia doesn't have that.

We will only know the answer once they already throwing punches, right? for now, let's wait for the schedule to take place
all the speculation and opinions are accepted.

But to conclude who's heavier or who have that strong punches, and who ca withstand in between, that can be realized
when we witness them fighting.

Let see if those words are accurate for Ryan or it might be Davis that will earn the respect.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: Kemarit on December 28, 2022, 09:24:21 PM
The fight might be in jeopardy because of this news.

Quote
The 28-year-old Tank Davis (27-0, 25 KOs) was arrested on Tuesday, and a mug shot was taken of him by the police department.

It’s unknown at this stage whether Tank Davis’ arrest will impact his January 7th fight against the unbeaten Hector Garcia (16-0, 10 KOs) or, more importantly, his April 15th match against Ryan Garcia on Showtime PPV.

This isn’t the first time Gervonta Davis has had issues with law enforcement. In 2020, Tank was charged with battery. That same year in November 2020, he allegedly was involved in a hit & run accident.

https://www.boxing247.com/boxing-news/tank-davis-arrested-charged-with-battery/256144

So it might impact his fight with Ryan Garcia, and if this happens, then it's going to be a disaster for the promoters as they could have been spending millions already for promotion already Tank Davis will also have a tune up fight with Hector Garcia in the first week of January. Maybe this fight will be cancelled, but not sure how long will this case last that it could affect this fight as well.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: Jating on December 28, 2022, 09:34:05 PM
I'm not a lawyer but I'm thinking this scenario

1. Davis appeared in court, pleads No Contest and maybe the judge will just issue him a community service and pay?
2. Davis settle this out of court and pay the victim?

So possible that his tune up with Hector Garcia will not happened, but the biggest fight against Ryan Garcia can still push through around April-May if his lawyer can get him a good deal, without longer jail sentence, hopefully.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: Baofeng on December 28, 2022, 09:49:50 PM
^^ Possible, but the hearing in this case could be very close to the date of his fight against Hector that I speculate that the fight might not happen. And probably the promotions are scrambling to look for fighters that can replaced Davis just in case if they don't want the fight to be totally X out in January 7 because everything has been set up.

And for sure, he will hire a great lawyer for this case, that will able to get him a good bargain with the judges and yeah, his fight with Ryan will be brought into the picture for sure and let the judge know that this is a huge fight that needs to happen and take that chance that the judge will decide in favor of them, who knows.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: mirakal on December 30, 2022, 06:31:36 PM
I'm not a lawyer but I'm thinking this scenario

1. Davis appeared in court, pleads No Contest and maybe the judge will just issue him a community service and pay?
2. Davis settle this out of court and pay the victim?

So possible that his tune up with Hector Garcia will not happened, but the biggest fight against Ryan Garcia can still push through around April-May if his lawyer can get him a good deal, without longer jail sentence, hopefully.

The 2nd scenario is more likely than the 1st one, but if the victim will not accept the payment and still forces that a trial should decide what will happen to him then Davis and his camp have no choice anymore but to go in the 1st scenario stated where his situation is at the hands of the presiding judge and plead. Surely, Davis have the money needed to hire one of the best attorney, so maybe his case will turns out favorable to his side. But I'm afraid that his fight against Hector Garcia this January will be sacrificed because of this incident.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: Finestream on December 30, 2022, 08:35:23 PM
In general terms, I think that Gervonta wants to give herself a break and one of the best ways is to win her fight against Garcia, but we all know how Garcia reacts when they tell each other that they are trying to minimize him or that they are trying to tell him that he is below the standard. average or not up to Davis's level, I've seen Davis' style and it's very good, it's powerful, it's effective and above all I like his combinations, it also seems that he would fight without doing a routine or following a script or more well what is being said, he does not hype his movements, but innovates and always turns to surprise, and that is something that not all boxers have, because many manage and measure their strength, speed and resistance to avoid falling into a knockout or not run out of strength.



In another order of ideas, Gervonta Davis says something strong here:

Gervonta Davis Believes Boxers Use Mental Health As An 'Excuse' To 'Get Out Of Stuff'

Quote
Garcia, 24, has been open since then about the importance of addressing mental health, even in the hardened world of boxing. Davis doesn’t buy it.

“You never heard no back-in-the-day fighter talk about mental health,” Davis said following his training session at 5th Ave. Gym in Miami Beach, Florida. “I think boxing people is the most, probably, the most – we need mental health to actually come in the ring and fight and things like that. I think we probably the most, the toughest out of the whole like combat sports. You know what I mean?

“I feel as though that people just was saying that to get out of stuff. Yeah, like a excuse because I feel as though like we all, to be honest, we all have like mental health [issues]. But I think [in] boxing we control it. You know how it is. You know what I mean?”

Source: https://www.boxingscene.com/gervonta-davis-believes-boxers-use-mental-health-an-excuse-get-out-stuff--171408 (https://www.boxingscene.com/gervonta-davis-believes-boxers-use-mental-health-an-excuse-get-out-stuff--171408)

Maybe seeing Garcia being defeated could mean another achievement for Davis. But honestly speaking, Davis don’t have to prove to himself and break a leg because he always have said to the audience that Ryan Garcia is not a complete fighter that will be able to beat him. Of course, Davis has been making excellent performances in his previous fights and that beating Garcia is never hard for him he thinks. And the good thing about Davis is that he always made it to practice and improve his craft so he can always be prepared in all his fights.
 


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: Baofeng on December 30, 2022, 11:30:13 PM
I'm not a lawyer but I'm thinking this scenario

1. Davis appeared in court, pleads No Contest and maybe the judge will just issue him a community service and pay?
2. Davis settle this out of court and pay the victim?

So possible that his tune up with Hector Garcia will not happened, but the biggest fight against Ryan Garcia can still push through around April-May if his lawyer can get him a good deal, without longer jail sentence, hopefully.

The 2nd scenario is more likely than the 1st one, but if the victim will not accept the payment and still forces that a trial should decide what will happen to him then Davis and his camp have no choice anymore but to go in the 1st scenario stated where his situation is at the hands of the presiding judge and plead. Surely, Davis have the money needed to hire one of the best attorney, so maybe his case will turns out favorable to his side. But I'm afraid that his fight against Hector Garcia this January will be sacrificed because of this incident.

You forget to include a 3rd scenario, wherein the accuser drop her charges against Davis and this is what eventually happen as Vanessa Posso, the mother of Davis’ daughter, changes her stance and said that Gervonta did hurt her and their daughter, so this is the end of the story and it's good to hear that it's a positive note for Davis because it will really have a big effect on his career if ever this cases proceed because it will drag his name and reputation and obviously his career as a boxer.

So we are all good now and hopefully the fight with Hector Garcia first will go on. And after he wins, then they can talk smuck against Ryan Garcia in public again and continue to hurl insults against each other.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: freedomgo on December 31, 2022, 01:34:23 AM
And according to Ryan Garcia's trainer, the fame Joe Goossen, Ryan is the harder puncher of the two,

Quote
“The thing is, I think per square inch, Ryan possesses a much heavier punch [than Davis]. I believe that for a particular reason. With that said, neither one of these guys want to get hit with the other guy’s best shot.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/ryan-garcia-packs-heavier-punch-tank-davis-says-trainer-joe-goossen--171395

Obviously, he will praise Garcia and tell us what advantage he has against Tank not just in terms of power though.

And I do agree, either one doesn't want to get hit by the other one because for sure this is going to be a knock out. And the one that blinks in this fight, will wake up in the canvass after they get hit.

Of course he will ;D Joe could praise Ryan Garcia about his capabilities forever and talk about who's got more heavier punch between Ryan and Gervonta but Joe forgot that that's not the only thing that matters because somebody can throw a much heavier punch but there will be always that somebody too that can withstand those heavy punch that could lead to a KO. Talking about the ability to withstand, I bet Ryan Garcia doesn't have that.

We will only know the answer once they already throwing punches, right? for now, let's wait for the schedule to take place
all the speculation and opinions are accepted.

But to conclude who's heavier or who have that strong punches, and who ca withstand in between, that can be realized
when we witness them fighting.

Let see if those words are accurate for Ryan or it might be Davis that will earn the respect.

Nobody here have said or concluded about the outcome mate, what we're talking here are just mere speculations and who got the upper hand that will likely help either one of them in their campaign. Even if we say who are we rooting for, it won't still guarantee that they'll be the ones who will get favored. It's still gonna be a long night of fighting for the both stated boxers.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: Yaunfitda on December 31, 2022, 08:30:50 AM
I'm not a lawyer but I'm thinking this scenario

1. Davis appeared in court, pleads No Contest and maybe the judge will just issue him a community service and pay?
2. Davis settle this out of court and pay the victim?

So possible that his tune up with Hector Garcia will not happened, but the biggest fight against Ryan Garcia can still push through around April-May if his lawyer can get him a good deal, without longer jail sentence, hopefully.

The 2nd scenario is more likely than the 1st one, but if the victim will not accept the payment and still forces that a trial should decide what will happen to him then Davis and his camp have no choice anymore but to go in the 1st scenario stated where his situation is at the hands of the presiding judge and plead. Surely, Davis have the money needed to hire one of the best attorney, so maybe his case will turns out favorable to his side. But I'm afraid that his fight against Hector Garcia this January will be sacrificed because of this incident.

You forget to include a 3rd scenario, wherein the accuser drop her charges against Davis and this is what eventually happen as Vanessa Posso, the mother of Davis’ daughter, changes her stance and said that Gervonta did hurt her and their daughter, so this is the end of the story and it's good to hear that it's a positive note for Davis because it will really have a big effect on his career if ever this cases proceed because it will drag his name and reputation and obviously his career as a boxer.

So we are all good now and hopefully the fight with Hector Garcia first will go on. And after he wins, then they can talk smuck against Ryan Garcia in public again and continue to hurl insults against each other.
Ok so that is good to hear, if the case has been drop because the accuser change her deposition then Davis is vindicated now. And as we can hear from the public, it seems that he has been judge already as guilty as something.

So yes, good news for Davis fans, and now he can go back and focus on Hector Garcia in the first week of January. We all know that this is not going to be an easy fight for him, although it is deem as tune up fights.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: Distinctin on December 31, 2022, 09:12:56 AM
The fight might be in jeopardy because of this news.

Quote
The 28-year-old Tank Davis (27-0, 25 KOs) was arrested on Tuesday, and a mug shot was taken of him by the police department.

It’s unknown at this stage whether Tank Davis’ arrest will impact his January 7th fight against the unbeaten Hector Garcia (16-0, 10 KOs) or, more importantly, his April 15th match against Ryan Garcia on Showtime PPV.

This isn’t the first time Gervonta Davis has had issues with law enforcement. In 2020, Tank was charged with battery. That same year in November 2020, he allegedly was involved in a hit & run accident.

https://www.boxing247.com/boxing-news/tank-davis-arrested-charged-with-battery/256144

So it might impact his fight with Ryan Garcia, and if this happens, then it's going to be a disaster for the promoters as they could have been spending millions already for promotion already Tank Davis will also have a tune up fight with Hector Garcia in the first week of January. Maybe this fight will be cancelled, but not sure how long will this case last that it could affect this fight as well.
Most likely this will affect his reputation as a boxer, and even the upcoming fights that are in line with him. If not cancelled, since the audience are undeniably waiting for the match to happen, I guess Tank Davis will also face negative criticisms after the fight. But I don’t think his preparation for the match and his performance in the ring will also be affected as he will always be an outstanding boxer regardless of his current issues.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: Jawhead999 on December 31, 2022, 09:27:05 AM
Most likely this will affect his reputation as a boxer, and even the upcoming fights that are in line with him. If not cancelled, since the audience are undeniably waiting for the match to happen, I guess Tank Davis will also face negative criticisms after the fight. But I don’t think his preparation for the match and his performance in the ring will also be affected as he will always be an outstanding boxer regardless of his current issues.
The case has been resolved and Gervonta Davis already free, but his reputation might ruined. It's better for him to quit social medias since he might get a lot criticism including when he's in outside and meet people who knew this case. Even he's professional and know to not taking it as a personal, but I believe it's still affect his mental even though just a tiny portion. He should fight with Garcia, otherwise his name might fall.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: bittraffic on December 31, 2022, 10:57:18 AM
Most likely this will affect his reputation as a boxer, and even the upcoming fights that are in line with him. If not cancelled, since the audience are undeniably waiting for the match to happen, I guess Tank Davis will also face negative criticisms after the fight. But I don’t think his preparation for the match and his performance in the ring will also be affected as he will always be an outstanding boxer regardless of his current issues.
The case has been resolved and Gervonta Davis already free, but his reputation might ruined. It's better for him to quit social medias since he might get a lot criticism including when he's in outside and meet people who knew this case. Even he's professional and know to not taking it as a personal, but I believe it's still affect his mental even though just a tiny portion. He should fight with Garcia, otherwise his name might fall.

I couldn't remove the idea that there is a coordinated attack on Davis. Things are just too coincidental. Family trouble will always affect personal life and maybe he would blame himself for what happened.

After bailing an article came out from his accuser claiming he did not harm her nor his daughter. But both parties might just have an agreement, probably on money I guess which is usually the case. If there is a chance for Hector Vs Tank, it's not yet announced.

https://www.badlefthook.com/2022/12/30/23532948/woman-who-accused-gervonta-davis-domestic-violence-now-claims-he-did-not-harm-her-boxing-news-2022


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: Russlenat on December 31, 2022, 02:08:36 PM
Most likely this will affect his reputation as a boxer, and even the upcoming fights that are in line with him. If not cancelled, since the audience are undeniably waiting for the match to happen, I guess Tank Davis will also face negative criticisms after the fight. But I don’t think his preparation for the match and his performance in the ring will also be affected as he will always be an outstanding boxer regardless of his current issues.
The case has been resolved and Gervonta Davis already free, but his reputation might ruined. It's better for him to quit social medias since he might get a lot criticism including when he's in outside and meet people who knew this case. Even he's professional and know to not taking it as a personal, but I believe it's still affect his mental even though just a tiny portion. He should fight with Garcia, otherwise his name might fall.

I couldn't remove the idea that there is a coordinated attack on Davis. Things are just too coincidental. Family trouble will always affect personal life and maybe he would blame himself for what happened.

After bailing an article came out from his accuser claiming he did not harm her nor his daughter. But both parties might just have an agreement, probably on money I guess which is usually the case. If there is a chance for Hector Vs Tank, it's not yet announced.

https://www.badlefthook.com/2022/12/30/23532948/woman-who-accused-gervonta-davis-domestic-violence-now-claims-he-did-not-harm-her-boxing-news-2022

Okay, so there's no problem anymore and the fight of Davis vs Garcia will happen next year. And yes mate, it could be just for the money, nowadays, most things will work in your favor if you have the money, that's the best way to silence people but some people will also try to trick you to get your money, just like in the case of Davis. Anyway, it's just his personal life, outside boxing but we should be happy with the development.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: Kemarit on January 01, 2023, 11:34:28 AM
Most likely this will affect his reputation as a boxer, and even the upcoming fights that are in line with him. If not cancelled, since the audience are undeniably waiting for the match to happen, I guess Tank Davis will also face negative criticisms after the fight. But I don’t think his preparation for the match and his performance in the ring will also be affected as he will always be an outstanding boxer regardless of his current issues.
The case has been resolved and Gervonta Davis already free, but his reputation might ruined. It's better for him to quit social medias since he might get a lot criticism including when he's in outside and meet people who knew this case. Even he's professional and know to not taking it as a personal, but I believe it's still affect his mental even though just a tiny portion. He should fight with Garcia, otherwise his name might fall.

I couldn't remove the idea that there is a coordinated attack on Davis. Things are just too coincidental. Family trouble will always affect personal life and maybe he would blame himself for what happened.

After bailing an article came out from his accuser claiming he did not harm her nor his daughter. But both parties might just have an agreement, probably on money I guess which is usually the case. If there is a chance for Hector Vs Tank, it's not yet announced.

https://www.badlefthook.com/2022/12/30/23532948/woman-who-accused-gervonta-davis-domestic-violence-now-claims-he-did-not-harm-her-boxing-news-2022

Okay, so there's no problem anymore and the fight of Davis vs Garcia will happen next year. And yes mate, it could be just for the money, nowadays, most things will work in your favor if you have the money, that's the best way to silence people but some people will also try to trick you to get your money, just like in the case of Davis. Anyway, it's just his personal life, outside boxing but we should be happy with the development.

Yep, there will be no delays at least for the Hector Garcia fight because that is the fight that we are concern initially. Because if that happen was delayed due to the court case allegedly, then obviously the Ryan Garcia fight will be postponed.

But everything has been iron out so to speak, no harm has been done and about the claim? who knows, maybe there are entity behind who wanted to destroy Davis because they are jealous of his success and his money.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: Distinctin on January 01, 2023, 12:33:32 PM

But everything has been iron out so to speak, no harm has been done and about the claim? who knows, maybe there are entity behind who wanted to destroy Davis because they are jealous of his success and his money.

That's normal, when you are at the top, there are people who would want to bring you down. But I'm pretty sure Davis camp already knows how to handle this, they have been in the business for awhile now, it should not be new to them.

The Ryan Garcia vs Gervonta  Davis is going to happen, they will not mess this opportunity to make a lot of money and to show the world who the better fighter is.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: Viscore on January 01, 2023, 09:59:18 PM
And according to Ryan Garcia's trainer, the fame Joe Goossen, Ryan is the harder puncher of the two,

Quote
“The thing is, I think per square inch, Ryan possesses a much heavier punch [than Davis]. I believe that for a particular reason. With that said, neither one of these guys want to get hit with the other guy’s best shot.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/ryan-garcia-packs-heavier-punch-tank-davis-says-trainer-joe-goossen--171395

Obviously, he will praise Garcia and tell us what advantage he has against Tank not just in terms of power though.

And I do agree, either one doesn't want to get hit by the other one because for sure this is going to be a knock out. And the one that blinks in this fight, will wake up in the canvass after they get hit.
It’s always expected that he will favor and praise his own pet because whatever the performance of Ryan, that will also reflect on the trainer’s performance on how he handle his trainee. Yes, Ryan has a heavier punch but Davis has also the best shot when inside the ring, as both of them are also considered world-class boxers. So with all those serious and heavy trainings they have both experiencing right now, I guess everyone deserves to witness another world class event that is obviously a must watch for all of us.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: AmoreJaz on January 01, 2023, 10:57:06 PM
And according to Ryan Garcia's trainer, the fame Joe Goossen, Ryan is the harder puncher of the two,

Quote
“The thing is, I think per square inch, Ryan possesses a much heavier punch [than Davis]. I believe that for a particular reason. With that said, neither one of these guys want to get hit with the other guy’s best shot.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/ryan-garcia-packs-heavier-punch-tank-davis-says-trainer-joe-goossen--171395

Obviously, he will praise Garcia and tell us what advantage he has against Tank not just in terms of power though.

And I do agree, either one doesn't want to get hit by the other one because for sure this is going to be a knock out. And the one that blinks in this fight, will wake up in the canvass after they get hit.
It’s always expected that he will favor and praise his own pet because whatever the performance of Ryan, that will also reflect on the trainer’s performance on how he handle his trainee. Yes, Ryan has a heavier punch but Davis has also the best shot when inside the ring, as both of them are also considered world-class boxers. So with all those serious and heavy trainings they have both experiencing right now, I guess everyone deserves to witness another world class event that is obviously a must watch for all of us.

we are expecting a toe-to-toe fight on this match. but i am guessing, garcia will be the underdog on this upcoming match. they are saying this will possibly happen this coming April. though no belts are on the line, seems that they are getting attention from the boxing fans generating possibly a fat paycheck for both. on a side note, i believe davis has better advantage when it comes to prep for this fight as he has a tune-up fight before garcia, whereas, garcia cancelled his fight with gesta. which should be a very good one to test his preps.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: Kasabus on January 02, 2023, 07:40:20 AM
And according to Ryan Garcia's trainer, the fame Joe Goossen, Ryan is the harder puncher of the two,

Quote
“The thing is, I think per square inch, Ryan possesses a much heavier punch [than Davis]. I believe that for a particular reason. With that said, neither one of these guys want to get hit with the other guy’s best shot.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/ryan-garcia-packs-heavier-punch-tank-davis-says-trainer-joe-goossen--171395

Obviously, he will praise Garcia and tell us what advantage he has against Tank not just in terms of power though.

And I do agree, either one doesn't want to get hit by the other one because for sure this is going to be a knock out. And the one that blinks in this fight, will wake up in the canvass after they get hit.
It’s always expected that he will favor and praise his own pet because whatever the performance of Ryan, that will also reflect on the trainer’s performance on how he handle his trainee. Yes, Ryan has a heavier punch but Davis has also the best shot when inside the ring, as both of them are also considered world-class boxers. So with all those serious and heavy trainings they have both experiencing right now, I guess everyone deserves to witness another world class event that is obviously a must watch for all of us.

we are expecting a toe-to-toe fight on this match. but i am guessing, garcia will be the underdog on this upcoming match. they are saying this will possibly happen this coming April. though no belts are on the line, seems that they are getting attention from the boxing fans generating possibly a fat paycheck for both. on a side note, i believe davis has better advantage when it comes to prep for this fight as he has a tune-up fight before garcia, whereas, garcia cancelled his fight with gesta. which should be a very good one to test his preps.

Yes, this fight indeed going to be an interesting bout to watch in April if both camps can really make it to their timetable and if Tank Davis can settle his battery case so that he too is free to fight against Ryan Garcia in April but as for the bookies, Garcia will be the underdog and Gervonta Davis will be the favorite. Also, there's a belt on the line because Davis here will be defending his title as he have the regular WBA belt in the lightweight division (Devin Haney got the Super belt).


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: Distinctin on January 02, 2023, 08:20:24 AM
i believe davis has better advantage when it comes to prep for this fight as he has a tune-up fight before garcia, whereas, garcia cancelled his fight with gesta. which should be a very good one to test his preps.
Nah, I don't think so, Garcia wants to prepare well for this fight, he said he wants to focus on his fight with Davis that's why he canceled the fight, so that means he believes that his decision was right and he will fully focus on his upcoming big fight. Anyway, let's just find out on the fight date, we will definitely know who's ready or not.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: Kelvinid on January 02, 2023, 10:56:22 AM
i believe davis has better advantage when it comes to prep for this fight as he has a tune-up fight before garcia, whereas, garcia cancelled his fight with gesta. which should be a very good one to test his preps.
Nah, I don't think so, Garcia wants to prepare well for this fight, he said he wants to focus on his fight with Davis that's why he canceled the fight, so that means he believes that his decision was right and he will fully focus on his upcoming big fight. Anyway, let's just find out on the fight date, we will definitely know who's ready or not.
There's no guarantee that having a tune up fight would make a boxer more prepared than the boxer who choose to focus on his big opponent. Davis will have the advantage if he will not get hurt in his fight, but looking at the paper, his opponent has a decent record and a champion also if I'm not mistaken.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: Shinpako09 on January 02, 2023, 02:00:54 PM
i believe davis has better advantage when it comes to prep for this fight as he has a tune-up fight before garcia, whereas, garcia cancelled his fight with gesta. which should be a very good one to test his preps.
Nah, I don't think so, Garcia wants to prepare well for this fight, he said he wants to focus on his fight with Davis that's why he canceled the fight, so that means he believes that his decision was right and he will fully focus on his upcoming big fight. Anyway, let's just find out on the fight date, we will definitely know who's ready or not.
I would do the same if I were in his place. Gervonta Davis is not an easy opponent so it is better to be prepared earlier than his opponent. If for @AmoreJaz Davis has advantage because of this tune up and so is Garcia. He can study Davis technique, movement or current fighting style from this fight. Not to mention his mind will focus only on this fight.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: Japinat on January 02, 2023, 09:13:34 PM
i believe davis has better advantage when it comes to prep for this fight as he has a tune-up fight before garcia, whereas, garcia cancelled his fight with gesta. which should be a very good one to test his preps.
Nah, I don't think so, Garcia wants to prepare well for this fight, he said he wants to focus on his fight with Davis that's why he canceled the fight, so that means he believes that his decision was right and he will fully focus on his upcoming big fight. Anyway, let's just find out on the fight date, we will definitely know who's ready or not.
I would do the same if I were in his place. Gervonta Davis is not an easy opponent so it is better to be prepared earlier than his opponent. If for @AmoreJaz Davis has advantage because of this tune up and so is Garcia. He can study Davis technique, movement or current fighting style from this fight. Not to mention his mind will focus only on this fight.

Either way, it will give Garcia an advantage and a disadvantage because if Garcia pushed through that tune-up fight, he will have the first hand knowledge how to fight Davis because Gesta moves like him but he's not the kind of boxer that Garcia can beat easily and that's where the disadvantage come in because his time to prepare against Davis will be much lesser but he already have any knowledge, whereas if Garcia prepares directly, he won't have any knowledge but he's prepared, the downfall is that it's not that sure that his plans will be correct.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: Sanitough on January 02, 2023, 09:38:30 PM
We are looking at a fight where both fighters have been undefeated and both hold several knockout wins, so everything can happen. This will be a tough fight for both as each fighter will try to keep their status and go forward undefeated. I'm holding my grudge against this one and probably will not bet on this fight.
This fight is will be a record breaking for both of the fighters as they have been undefeated in their individual fights. But I’m also seeing myself not to bet for this one too as it makes me hard to decide on where to favor as both of them have been showing excellent performances when it comes to the ring. I just hope at the end of the day, whoever will stay undefeated, will always remain feet off on the ground as it’s one thing that we would want to see from a world class boxer.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: Baofeng on January 02, 2023, 11:24:08 PM
i believe davis has better advantage when it comes to prep for this fight as he has a tune-up fight before garcia, whereas, garcia cancelled his fight with gesta. which should be a very good one to test his preps.
Nah, I don't think so, Garcia wants to prepare well for this fight, he said he wants to focus on his fight with Davis that's why he canceled the fight, so that means he believes that his decision was right and he will fully focus on his upcoming big fight. Anyway, let's just find out on the fight date, we will definitely know who's ready or not.
I would do the same if I were in his place. Gervonta Davis is not an easy opponent so it is better to be prepared earlier than his opponent. If for @AmoreJaz Davis has advantage because of this tune up and so is Garcia. He can study Davis technique, movement or current fighting style from this fight. Not to mention his mind will focus only on this fight.

I don't think there will be advantage for Davis just because he will be facing Hector Garcia, he might be the more active between the two but Ryan is probably training very hard already for this fight and most likely has the strategy in mind or see what the weakness of Davis is. And for sure he will be in front to see the fight between Tank vs Hector to validated the weaknesses that they have seen in tapes.

So we can say as well that Ryan could be in the advantageous situation as well watching the fight live and not the tapes anymore.

And for the betting public, unfortunately, the only line listed for us, is ML, so not worth it, unless you are looking for a upset as Hector Garcia is almost 8:1 underdog in this fight.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: bittraffic on January 03, 2023, 06:07:10 AM
i believe davis has better advantage when it comes to prep for this fight as he has a tune-up fight before garcia, whereas, garcia cancelled his fight with gesta. which should be a very good one to test his preps.
Nah, I don't think so, Garcia wants to prepare well for this fight, he said he wants to focus on his fight with Davis that's why he canceled the fight, so that means he believes that his decision was right and he will fully focus on his upcoming big fight. Anyway, let's just find out on the fight date, we will definitely know who's ready or not.
I would do the same if I were in his place. Gervonta Davis is not an easy opponent so it is better to be prepared earlier than his opponent. If for @AmoreJaz Davis has advantage because of this tune up and so is Garcia. He can study Davis technique, movement or current fighting style from this fight. Not to mention his mind will focus only on this fight.

I don't think there will be advantage for Davis just because he will be facing Hector Garcia, he might be the more active between the two but Ryan is probably training very hard already for this fight and most likely has the strategy in mind or see what the weakness of Davis is. And for sure he will be in front to see the fight between Tank vs Hector to validated the weaknesses that they have seen in tapes.

So we can say as well that Ryan could be in the advantageous situation as well watching the fight live and not the tapes anymore.

And for the betting public, unfortunately, the only line listed for us, is ML, so not worth it, unless you are looking for a upset as Hector Garcia is almost 8:1 underdog in this fight.

That's a bonus for Ryan, he can with the flight closely. He'd be looking for ways to last longer and probably until 12 rounds which could be the result Ryan by Decision. Or it will be Davis by TKO.

Ryan would want to keep his distance after all he has the reach and is quick in throwing his jabs and then a 1-2 combo whenever Davis is distracted and then back at the distance again.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: carlisle1 on January 03, 2023, 01:21:38 PM
i believe davis has better advantage when it comes to prep for this fight as he has a tune-up fight before garcia, whereas, garcia cancelled his fight with gesta. which should be a very good one to test his preps.
Nah, I don't think so, Garcia wants to prepare well for this fight, he said he wants to focus on his fight with Davis that's why he canceled the fight, so that means he believes that his decision was right and he will fully focus on his upcoming big fight. Anyway, let's just find out on the fight date, we will definitely know who's ready or not.
I would do the same if I were in his place. Gervonta Davis is not an easy opponent so it is better to be prepared earlier than his opponent. If for @AmoreJaz Davis has advantage because of this tune up and so is Garcia. He can study Davis technique, movement or current fighting style from this fight. Not to mention his mind will focus only on this fight.

Either way, it will give Garcia an advantage and a disadvantage because if Garcia pushed through that tune-up fight, he will have the first hand knowledge how to fight Davis because Gesta moves like him but he's not the kind of boxer that Garcia can beat easily and that's where the disadvantage come in because his time to prepare against Davis will be much lesser but he already have any knowledge, whereas if Garcia prepares directly, he won't have any knowledge but he's prepared, the downfall is that it's not that sure that his plans will be correct.

That can happen if he takes the risk and proceed in fighting Gesta, having a good insight on how your possible opponent will move and
anticipate his attack with the same strategy will help you a lot.

But just like what you mentioned, Gesta is not an easy opponent and the chance of him losing the fight is possible, maybe he or his
camp see that so they decided to not to continue.

Instead, they will prepare harder with the upcoming fight against Davis.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: cabron on January 03, 2023, 05:22:32 PM
~snip1~

That can happen if he takes the risk and proceed in fighting Gesta, having a good insight on how your possible opponent will move and
anticipate his attack with the same strategy will help you a lot.

But just like what you mentioned, Gesta is not an easy opponent and the chance of him losing the fight is possible, maybe he or his
camp see that so they decided to not to continue.

Instead, they will prepare harder with the upcoming fight against Davis.

Watching the fight of Tank vs Hector is not the same as experiencing it himself but if he wants to fight directly without having a tuneup, he could just get some fighters who could emulate how Davis fought in the ring. Many things can be done like studying the previous fights.

Would anyone really think they are not the ones who picked Gesta to be Ryan's tune-up fight?
It becomes really funnier when in the end Ryan losses the fight and a big loss of money because Tank vs Ryan will be canceled.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: Japinat on January 03, 2023, 09:53:50 PM
i believe davis has better advantage when it comes to prep for this fight as he has a tune-up fight before garcia, whereas, garcia cancelled his fight with gesta. which should be a very good one to test his preps.
Nah, I don't think so, Garcia wants to prepare well for this fight, he said he wants to focus on his fight with Davis that's why he canceled the fight, so that means he believes that his decision was right and he will fully focus on his upcoming big fight. Anyway, let's just find out on the fight date, we will definitely know who's ready or not.
I would do the same if I were in his place. Gervonta Davis is not an easy opponent so it is better to be prepared earlier than his opponent. If for @AmoreJaz Davis has advantage because of this tune up and so is Garcia. He can study Davis technique, movement or current fighting style from this fight. Not to mention his mind will focus only on this fight.

Either way, it will give Garcia an advantage and a disadvantage because if Garcia pushed through that tune-up fight, he will have the first hand knowledge how to fight Davis because Gesta moves like him but he's not the kind of boxer that Garcia can beat easily and that's where the disadvantage come in because his time to prepare against Davis will be much lesser but he already have any knowledge, whereas if Garcia prepares directly, he won't have any knowledge but he's prepared, the downfall is that it's not that sure that his plans will be correct.

That can happen if he takes the risk and proceed in fighting Gesta, having a good insight on how your possible opponent will move and
anticipate his attack with the same strategy will help you a lot.

But just like what you mentioned, Gesta is not an easy opponent and the chance of him losing the fight is possible, maybe he or his
camp see that so they decided to not to continue.

Instead, they will prepare harder with the upcoming fight against Davis.

I had the same impression that Garcia made the move along with his camp and Oscar Dela Hoya, but it turns out that it wasn't the case because as Golden Boy said, Ryan Garcia made the move himself as all of them were left surprised because they have thought that Ryan is eager to have his own tune-up fight so that he will have a first hand knowledge on how will Tank move.

I guess we will know it soon, Ryan Garcia only knows why he didn't proceeded with the tune-up fight.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on January 04, 2023, 12:02:05 PM
In another order of ideas we have:

De La Hoya respects Gervonta Davis for taking Hector Garcia fight for tune-up for Ryan

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By Dan Ambrose: Oscar De La Hoya respects Gervonta ‘Tank’ Davis for choosing to fight Hector Luis Garcia as his tune-up opponent on January 7th to get him ready for his mega-bout against Golden Boy Promotions/DAZN/Instagram star Ryan Garcia on April 15th.

Oscar had very little praise for his fighter Ryan for choosing not to take a tune-up, and he feels this is a “mistake” on his part because it would have helped him.

De La Hoya admits that Hector Garcia (16-0, 10 KOs) isn’t a real tune-up because he’s a world champion and viewed as a threat to the unbeaten Tank Davis (27-0, 25 KOs), although Golden Boy views him as such.

For his part, the 23-year-old Ryan (23-0, 19 KOs) has changed his mind about facing Mercito Gesta in a warm-up fight on January 28th.

Source: https://www.boxingnews24.com/2022/12/de-la-hoya-respects-gervonta-davis-for-taking-hector-garcia-fight-for-tune-up-for-ryan/ (https://www.boxingnews24.com/2022/12/de-la-hoya-respects-gervonta-davis-for-taking-hector-garcia-fight-for-tune-up-for-ryan/)


I see, thank you for this information mate.

I always thought that Ryan Garcia and his camp (including Golden Boy) made the choice and that they have some reasons why it's better for Ryan not to have that tune-up fight, but it seems that it wasn't the case here. Ryan Garcia made the choice by himself and without giving a second thought about it. I agree that it would be a great help for Ryan Garcia to face Gesta first before Tank to get himself accustomed and have some first-hand experience about Tank's movements because Gesta moves like that too.

Well, the truth is, this feat is a very good option, Tank is a somewhat more violent boxer, but with an exquisite technique, of course Garcia is a boxer who also has a lot of confidence in himself and it's not for nothing but Garcia throws some big shots combinations that are on another level, for me the fight against Tank is a bit excessive but I think it is necessary, these things can happen in the best way, it is a very good fight, I am waiting how things can turn out, if Garcia knows how Everything can be crowned with this victory, but you don't have to brag so much because it's a fight that nothing has been written for, at this time I wouldn't know who to bet on.


i believe davis has better advantage when it comes to prep for this fight as he has a tune-up fight before garcia, whereas, garcia cancelled his fight with gesta. which should be a very good one to test his preps.
Nah, I don't think so, Garcia wants to prepare well for this fight, he said he wants to focus on his fight with Davis that's why he canceled the fight, so that means he believes that his decision was right and he will fully focus on his upcoming big fight. Anyway, let's just find out on the fight date, we will definitely know who's ready or not.
I would do the same if I were in his place. Gervonta Davis is not an easy opponent so it is better to be prepared earlier than his opponent. If for @AmoreJaz Davis has advantage because of this tune up and so is Garcia. He can study Davis technique, movement or current fighting style from this fight. Not to mention his mind will focus only on this fight.

Either way, it will give Garcia an advantage and a disadvantage because if Garcia pushed through that tune-up fight, he will have the first hand knowledge how to fight Davis because Gesta moves like him but he's not the kind of boxer that Garcia can beat easily and that's where the disadvantage come in because his time to prepare against Davis will be much lesser but he already have any knowledge, whereas if Garcia prepares directly, he won't have any knowledge but he's prepared, the downfall is that it's not that sure that his plans will be correct.

That can happen if he takes the risk and proceed in fighting Gesta, having a good insight on how your possible opponent will move and
anticipate his attack with the same strategy will help you a lot.

But just like what you mentioned, Gesta is not an easy opponent and the chance of him losing the fight is possible, maybe he or his
camp see that so they decided to not to continue.

Instead, they will prepare harder with the upcoming fight against Davis.

I had the same impression that Garcia made the move along with his camp and Oscar Dela Hoya, but it turns out that it wasn't the case because as Golden Boy said, Ryan Garcia made the move himself as all of them were left surprised because they have thought that Ryan is eager to have his own tune-up fight so that he will have a first hand knowledge on how will Tank move.

I guess we will know it soon, Ryan Garcia only knows why he didn't proceeded with the tune-up fight.


I think we all know that Davis is a boxer that implies a lot of respect, I would be practicing and training a lot in Garcia's position, a plan A, a plan B, and many more plans.

I think that what Davis is doing now is to popularize what he is much more, the media talk a lot about all his power, some have had no mercy in saying that he is the best that he does not have a worthy opponent, however I think that some like García have a lot of potential and can give big surprises, as far as I'm concerned nothing is written and they can do something great.

Even if Garcia could win, he would open the minds of many boxers and give them something called hope, statistics were just numbers and analysis, they would have no way to determine the strength of a boxer.

Gervonta Davis on Hector Garcia: “He wants to take my spot”

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By Dan Ambrose: Gervonta ‘Tank’ Davis is concerned that his opponent for Saturday, undefeated Hector Luis Garcia, wants to knock him off the top of the hill and take his spot as the next big star in the sport.

Garcia (16-0, 10 KOs) has already put a damper on the once-promising careers of Chris Colbert and Roger Gutierrez. Now, he’ll be looking to do the same thing to the popular former Mayweather-promoted Gervonta (27-0, 25 KOs) this Saturday, January 7th, on Showtime PPV at the Capital One Arena in Washington, D.C.

Despite winning 27 consecutive fights since turning professional ten years ago, the 28-year-old Tank Davis has shown vulnerability in recent fights in his defensive skill. Rolando ‘Rolly’ Romero, Isaac ‘Pitbull’ Cruz, and Leo Santa Cruz were all able to put hands on Tank and mark him up before they were beaten.

Source: https://www.boxingnews24.com/2023/01/gervonta-davis-on-hector-garcia-he-wants-to-take-my-spot/ (https://www.boxingnews24.com/2023/01/gervonta-davis-on-hector-garcia-he-wants-to-take-my-spot/)


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: Baofeng on January 04, 2023, 09:32:21 PM
Ryan Garcia taking aim at Tank and says that he will finished him in 2 rounds, hehehe

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“Prediction for the fight – I say I'll beat him in about two rounds,” Garcia told The Joe Pomp Show.

https://www.boxingscene.com/ryan-garcia-predicts-hell-ko-tank-2-rounds-hes-never-faced-adversity-risk-ring--171581

Ryan already hyping himself in this fight, saying that he will finished him in 2 rounds. I doubt though, Davis is known to be very cautious in the early rounds of his fight, just trying to figure out his opponents before making any adjustments. Specially if his opponent is someone of a knock out artist, just like in the Romero fight wherein he started very slow and trying not to get caught with big punch early. And we wanted the fight a bit longer, so that they will bring the best out of this two boxers.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: BitDane on January 04, 2023, 10:03:16 PM
i believe davis has better advantage when it comes to prep for this fight as he has a tune-up fight before garcia, whereas, garcia cancelled his fight with gesta. which should be a very good one to test his preps.
Nah, I don't think so, Garcia wants to prepare well for this fight, he said he wants to focus on his fight with Davis that's why he canceled the fight, so that means he believes that his decision was right and he will fully focus on his upcoming big fight. Anyway, let's just find out on the fight date, we will definitely know who's ready or not.

Or it is also possible that Ryan Garcia is somehow worry of an upset and thinks that it is better to skip the fight against Gesta and go directly with Davis fight.   His exlpanation is simply to cover up those worries  ;D.  Anyway, that is just an assumption, but I think Garcia will be fully prepared to fight Davis, he has ample time to strategize and practice movements to counter Davis skills and style.

Ryan Garcia taking aim at Tank and says that he will finished him in 2 rounds, hehehe

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“Prediction for the fight – I say I'll beat him in about two rounds,” Garcia told The Joe Pomp Show.

https://www.boxingscene.com/ryan-garcia-predicts-hell-ko-tank-2-rounds-hes-never-faced-adversity-risk-ring--171581

Ryan already hyping himself in this fight, saying that he will finished him in 2 rounds. I doubt though, Davis is known to be very cautious in the early rounds of his fight, just trying to figure out his opponents before making any adjustments. Specially if his opponent is someone of a knock out artist, just like in the Romero fight wherein he started very slow and trying not to get caught with big punch early. And we wanted the fight a bit longer, so that they will bring the best out of this two boxers.

This is his claim even before the fight deal is sealed.  I do not think that he will KO Davis since Davis is a tough opponent, if there is someone to get KD or KO'ed  it will be Garcia because he has a not so strong chin.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: AmoreJaz on January 04, 2023, 11:11:49 PM
Ryan Garcia taking aim at Tank and says that he will finished him in 2 rounds, hehehe

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“Prediction for the fight – I say I'll beat him in about two rounds,” Garcia told The Joe Pomp Show.

https://www.boxingscene.com/ryan-garcia-predicts-hell-ko-tank-2-rounds-hes-never-faced-adversity-risk-ring--171581

Ryan already hyping himself in this fight, saying that he will finished him in 2 rounds. I doubt though, Davis is known to be very cautious in the early rounds of his fight, just trying to figure out his opponents before making any adjustments. Specially if his opponent is someone of a knock out artist, just like in the Romero fight wherein he started very slow and trying not to get caught with big punch early. And we wanted the fight a bit longer, so that they will bring the best out of this two boxers.

i have the feeling that the opposite of the situation has high probability of happening. if garcia has not backed out from his tune-up fight, he should have known his caliber before davis' fight. it seems that he is indeed hyping up. don't know if he can really handle davis within 2 rounds.
so long they will give a very good fight without running around, i guess they will give a good entertainment to their boxing fans.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: Dave1 on January 05, 2023, 02:50:29 AM
Ryan Garcia taking aim at Tank and says that he will finished him in 2 rounds, hehehe

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“Prediction for the fight – I say I'll beat him in about two rounds,” Garcia told The Joe Pomp Show.

https://www.boxingscene.com/ryan-garcia-predicts-hell-ko-tank-2-rounds-hes-never-faced-adversity-risk-ring--171581

Ryan already hyping himself in this fight, saying that he will finished him in 2 rounds. I doubt though, Davis is known to be very cautious in the early rounds of his fight, just trying to figure out his opponents before making any adjustments. Specially if his opponent is someone of a knock out artist, just like in the Romero fight wherein he started very slow and trying not to get caught with big punch early. And we wanted the fight a bit longer, so that they will bring the best out of this two boxers.

i have the feeling that the opposite of the situation has high probability of happening. if garcia has not backed out from his tune-up fight, he should have known his caliber before davis' fight. it seems that he is indeed hyping up. don't know if he can really handle davis within 2 rounds.
so long they will give a very good fight without running around, i guess they will give a good entertainment to their boxing fans.

Its not smart of him though claiming that he can just steamroll Tank Davis. On the contrary, we will know that he will be the underdog in this fight. So for me, no need for Ryan to claim this and that, he should focus on this fight and should stay away from the media as it might backfire on him bigtime if he losses this fight. Round 2 is too early, that's what he said against Tagoe in their last fight and he didn't accomplished any.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: Japinat on January 05, 2023, 03:43:56 AM
Ryan Garcia taking aim at Tank and says that he will finished him in 2 rounds, hehehe

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“Prediction for the fight – I say I'll beat him in about two rounds,” Garcia told The Joe Pomp Show.

https://www.boxingscene.com/ryan-garcia-predicts-hell-ko-tank-2-rounds-hes-never-faced-adversity-risk-ring--171581

Ryan already hyping himself in this fight, saying that he will finished him in 2 rounds. I doubt though, Davis is known to be very cautious in the early rounds of his fight, just trying to figure out his opponents before making any adjustments. Specially if his opponent is someone of a knock out artist, just like in the Romero fight wherein he started very slow and trying not to get caught with big punch early. And we wanted the fight a bit longer, so that they will bring the best out of this two boxers.

Big words for a young man that hasn't yet fought any tough opponents in his whole career and saying that he can finish a fight in mere 2 rounds against Tank Davis. Now, I know that he's just trying to hype himself and to market their future fight even though it's not yet fixed but those words are too far from reality because Davis is no ordinary boxer that he can defeat that easily. He may have the size but the IQ belongs to the title holder.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: Jating on January 05, 2023, 09:21:45 AM
Ryan Garcia taking aim at Tank and says that he will finished him in 2 rounds, hehehe

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“Prediction for the fight – I say I'll beat him in about two rounds,” Garcia told The Joe Pomp Show.

https://www.boxingscene.com/ryan-garcia-predicts-hell-ko-tank-2-rounds-hes-never-faced-adversity-risk-ring--171581

Ryan already hyping himself in this fight, saying that he will finished him in 2 rounds. I doubt though, Davis is known to be very cautious in the early rounds of his fight, just trying to figure out his opponents before making any adjustments. Specially if his opponent is someone of a knock out artist, just like in the Romero fight wherein he started very slow and trying not to get caught with big punch early. And we wanted the fight a bit longer, so that they will bring the best out of this two boxers.

Big words for a young man that hasn't yet fought any tough opponents in his whole career and saying that he can finish a fight in mere 2 rounds against Tank Davis. Now, I know that he's just trying to hype himself and to market their future fight even though it's not yet fixed but those words are too far from reality because Davis is no ordinary boxer that he can defeat that easily. He may have the size but the IQ belongs to the title holder.

Lol, but yes this is true, Ryan Garcia's mouth is to big for him and probably this is the reason why he is called social media king because when he opens his mouth, it's all about hyping his fight and what not.

But he hasn't proved anything, yeah, me made a comeback and his mental issues is behind him.

Nevertheless, he hasn't beaten anyone in the top 10 or the 135 lbs to just talk smuck to Davis like that. We will see Tank's reply in his next fight against Hector Garcia this weekend.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: Kemarit on January 05, 2023, 09:25:33 AM
Ryan Garcia taking aim at Tank and says that he will finished him in 2 rounds, hehehe

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“Prediction for the fight – I say I'll beat him in about two rounds,” Garcia told The Joe Pomp Show.

https://www.boxingscene.com/ryan-garcia-predicts-hell-ko-tank-2-rounds-hes-never-faced-adversity-risk-ring--171581

Ryan already hyping himself in this fight, saying that he will finished him in 2 rounds. I doubt though, Davis is known to be very cautious in the early rounds of his fight, just trying to figure out his opponents before making any adjustments. Specially if his opponent is someone of a knock out artist, just like in the Romero fight wherein he started very slow and trying not to get caught with big punch early. And we wanted the fight a bit longer, so that they will bring the best out of this two boxers.

Big words for a young man that hasn't yet fought any tough opponents in his whole career and saying that he can finish a fight in mere 2 rounds against Tank Davis. Now, I know that he's just trying to hype himself and to market their future fight even though it's not yet fixed but those words are too far from reality because Davis is no ordinary boxer that he can defeat that easily. He may have the size but the IQ belongs to the title holder.

I think that's already a given fact on Ryan, remember he even calls Davis "ugly" to be a champ in the Mike Tyson podcast.

This is 2 years ago and he says the same thing, 2 rounds: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oe35Bmq1A4I

And he still has the same attitude mate, but the good thing is that they are going to face each other and let's see who is going to put to sleep on the canvass and how long this fight is going to last.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: yazher on January 05, 2023, 01:39:29 PM
I think that's already a given fact on Ryan, remember he even calls Davis "ugly" to be a champ in the Mike Tyson podcast.
This is 2 years ago and he says the same thing, 2 rounds: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oe35Bmq1A4I
And he still has the same attitude mate, but the good thing is that they are going to face each other and let's see who is going to put to sleep on the canvass and how long this fight is going to last.

I can't wait for their promotional speech in their upcoming fights and it would be even more worth watching this time. I think they both hate each other and find themselves to be the best rivalry that needs to clash in the ring to prove to everyone who is the best boxer in the weight division. This time Garcia can truly prove to the world that he is not only strong against small fishes and he can also take down big fish with his left hook too. Davis should not let other's critics of Garcia make him at ease because they both need to do as much training as they can because this time they are both at the advantage.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on January 06, 2023, 01:41:19 PM


I always thought that Ryan Garcia and his camp (including Golden Boy) made the choice and that they have some reasons why it's better for Ryan not to have that tune-up fight, but it seems that it wasn't the case here. Ryan Garcia made the choice by himself and without giving a second thought about it. I agree that it would be a great help for Ryan Garcia to face Gesta first before Tank to get himself accustomed and have some first-hand experience about Tank's movements because Gesta moves like that too.

There were tune fights that ended in upsets, and some big names and legendary boxers have suffered from upsets, like Tommy Morrison, Lennox Lewis, and Mike Tyson, what appear to be easy fights and tune fights for multi-million deals turned into upsets
I will not rule out an upset here, Hector Garcia is a champion, and got a good record he should be motivated to give his all because it will benefit him more and will catapult his name to the top.
But Tank is a risk taker and always ready to take on just anybody something that is missing on Ryan Garcia, they have contrasting characters and personalities.

There are no issues in Tank's side because I know that he can overcome it successfully, it will be a good tune-up fight for him for sure and the experience he will gain from fighting against a champion will help Tank's case to silence Ryan Garcia. But how about Ryan Garcia? His tune-up fight would be a great help for him as well, but he chose not to. Upsets will be always around lurking in the shadows, it's in the boxer if how will he handle the risks.

Many believe that it is better to fight Garcia against Gesta than against Tank, but I don't think it's a good idea, for me the main thing is that he can have a fight against the strongest, and if he beats him then he gains more fame, I think Garcia is here , his secret is in his good training and very strong so that he can give himself in the best way, for me Garcia is one of the boxers who have the most technique and who can face Tank without having to go through a link like Gesta, I also think Gesta is not as soft as a boxer either, many fear Tank, but I think that by now García knows who he is facing and how he should face them.

Ryan Garcia taking aim at Tank and says that he will finished him in 2 rounds, hehehe

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“Prediction for the fight – I say I'll beat him in about two rounds,” Garcia told The Joe Pomp Show.

https://www.boxingscene.com/ryan-garcia-predicts-hell-ko-tank-2-rounds-hes-never-faced-adversity-risk-ring--171581

Ryan already hyping himself in this fight, saying that he will finished him in 2 rounds. I doubt though, Davis is known to be very cautious in the early rounds of his fight, just trying to figure out his opponents before making any adjustments. Specially if his opponent is someone of a knock out artist, just like in the Romero fight wherein he started very slow and trying not to get caught with big punch early. And we wanted the fight a bit longer, so that they will bring the best out of this two boxers.

Big words for a young man that hasn't yet fought any tough opponents in his whole career and saying that he can finish a fight in mere 2 rounds against Tank Davis. Now, I know that he's just trying to hype himself and to market their future fight even though it's not yet fixed but those words are too far from reality because Davis is no ordinary boxer that he can defeat that easily. He may have the size but the IQ belongs to the title holder.

I think that's already a given fact on Ryan, remember he even calls Davis "ugly" to be a champ in the Mike Tyson podcast.

This is 2 years ago and he says the same thing, 2 rounds: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oe35Bmq1A4I

And he still has the same attitude mate, but the good thing is that they are going to face each other and let's see who is going to put to sleep on the canvass and how long this fight is going to last.

From all this speculation I can say something clear, that this fight is getting very good, on the one hand García comes out saying that he will win in 2 rounds, and that causes a lot of anger in Davis, so these things are good in boxing, not only because the fight that they will show, but rather all the fights will be dynamized in favor of a corresponding bet, when a fight is good it is because the fight odds are 50% of each boxer, and they are the biggest bets of all time, each boxer He has done his part, they already have the fame that they like a lot and, above all, the attention of the bettors, that is, the demand is at the right level, I think great things can happen in this fight.

And more things are beginning to develop:

LIVE: Tank Davis Vs. Hector Garcia Showtime Press Conference

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Undefeated Superstar Gervonta “Tank” Davis Defends WBA Lightweight Title Against Unbeaten World Champion Hector Luis Garcia Saturday, January 7 at Capital One Arena in Washington, D.C.

Davis has established himself as one of boxing’s hottest, must-see attractions, capturing five world titles through three divisions, and will need to dispatch the dangerous and streaking Héctor Luis García to pave the way for the recently announced blockbuster clash against unbeaten star Ryan Garcia in the spring of 2023.

Source: https://www.boxingnews24.com/2023/01/tank-davis-vs-hector-garcia-showtime-press/ (https://www.boxingnews24.com/2023/01/tank-davis-vs-hector-garcia-showtime-press/)


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: stadus on January 06, 2023, 02:00:14 PM
I think that's already a given fact on Ryan, remember he even calls Davis "ugly" to be a champ in the Mike Tyson podcast.
This is 2 years ago and he says the same thing, 2 rounds: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oe35Bmq1A4I
And he still has the same attitude mate, but the good thing is that they are going to face each other and let's see who is going to put to sleep on the canvass and how long this fight is going to last.

I can't wait for their promotional speech in their upcoming fights and it would be even more worth watching this time. I think they both hate each other and find themselves to be the best rivalry that needs to clash in the ring to prove to everyone who is the best boxer in the weight division. This time Garcia can truly prove to the world that he is not only strong against small fishes and he can also take down big fish with his left hook too. Davis should not let other's critics of Garcia make him at ease because they both need to do as much training as they can because this time they are both at the advantage.

Yes, that would be great to see and I think it's somehow safe to assume that there will be some spicy words that will go in the air because of their heat. Anyway, as far as I know, there was no rivalry before and it was Ryan Garcia that started this as he's calling Davis to fight him but the latter is not interested as he's not that known before. Garcia kept on provoking Davis which resulted to this bout, I hope Ryan Garcia knows what he is up to and that he can back his words because he will be embarrassed for sure if it turns out that he's biting more than what he can chew.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on January 10, 2023, 05:35:41 PM
In general terms, I think that Gervonta wants to give herself a break and one of the best ways is to win her fight against Garcia, but we all know how Garcia reacts when they tell each other that they are trying to minimize him or that they are trying to tell him that he is below the standard. average or not up to Davis's level, I've seen Davis' style and it's very good, it's powerful, it's effective and above all I like his combinations, it also seems that he would fight without doing a routine or following a script or more well what is being said, he does not hype his movements, but innovates and always turns to surprise, and that is something that not all boxers have, because many manage and measure their strength, speed and resistance to avoid falling into a knockout or not run out of strength.



In another order of ideas, Gervonta Davis says something strong here:

Gervonta Davis Believes Boxers Use Mental Health As An 'Excuse' To 'Get Out Of Stuff'

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Garcia, 24, has been open since then about the importance of addressing mental health, even in the hardened world of boxing. Davis doesn’t buy it.

“You never heard no back-in-the-day fighter talk about mental health,” Davis said following his training session at 5th Ave. Gym in Miami Beach, Florida. “I think boxing people is the most, probably, the most – we need mental health to actually come in the ring and fight and things like that. I think we probably the most, the toughest out of the whole like combat sports. You know what I mean?

“I feel as though that people just was saying that to get out of stuff. Yeah, like a excuse because I feel as though like we all, to be honest, we all have like mental health [issues]. But I think [in] boxing we control it. You know how it is. You know what I mean?”

Source: https://www.boxingscene.com/gervonta-davis-believes-boxers-use-mental-health-an-excuse-get-out-stuff--171408 (https://www.boxingscene.com/gervonta-davis-believes-boxers-use-mental-health-an-excuse-get-out-stuff--171408)

Maybe seeing Garcia being defeated could mean another achievement for Davis. But honestly speaking, Davis don’t have to prove to himself and break a leg because he always have said to the audience that Ryan Garcia is not a complete fighter that will be able to beat him. Of course, Davis has been making excellent performances in his previous fights and that beating Garcia is never hard for him he thinks. And the good thing about Davis is that he always made it to practice and improve his craft so he can always be prepared in all his fights.
 

Yes, it is very true, perhaps that is why Garcia maintains a certain pique towards him, it is not a good thing, because he always has to be present, although both have the same weak point because if I remember correctly it is the chin, and García has done it evident and he has said it, it would be good if in that fight they could show who is the best without so many obstacles or saying much, the audience and the demand already have it, they are fighters who really make a difference, they can generate beautiful boxing and which can be quite showy, in my case I am not going to lose that fight, it will be very good, and I think that most will lean towards DAVIS.

I think that's already a given fact on Ryan, remember he even calls Davis "ugly" to be a champ in the Mike Tyson podcast.
This is 2 years ago and he says the same thing, 2 rounds: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oe35Bmq1A4I
And he still has the same attitude mate, but the good thing is that they are going to face each other and let's see who is going to put to sleep on the canvass and how long this fight is going to last.

I can't wait for their promotional speech in their upcoming fights and it would be even more worth watching this time. I think they both hate each other and find themselves to be the best rivalry that needs to clash in the ring to prove to everyone who is the best boxer in the weight division. This time Garcia can truly prove to the world that he is not only strong against small fishes and he can also take down big fish with his left hook too. Davis should not let other's critics of Garcia make him at ease because they both need to do as much training as they can because this time they are both at the advantage.

Yes, that would be great to see and I think it's somehow safe to assume that there will be some spicy words that will go in the air because of their heat. Anyway, as far as I know, there was no rivalry before and it was Ryan Garcia that started this as he's calling Davis to fight him but the latter is not interested as he's not that known before. Garcia kept on provoking Davis which resulted to this bout, I hope Ryan Garcia knows what he is up to and that he can back his words because he will be embarrassed for sure if it turns out that he's biting more than what he can chew.

Well, all of this that Ryan does, I think is to gain more fame, today's boxers can do many things, among them they can claim that they said that to make the show bigger, and thus have more demand, even though it's already here. The meeting between the two is getting too hot, at one point it is well seen but the reputation of both boxers is already compromised and the reputation of boxers is very important, it is something that defines them, few see this but it is very important As far as I'm concerned, I see this as interesting, but honestly I don't know who I could bet on right now, I see both with the same chances of winning.

Some of the Wizards were at the Gervonta Davis vs. Hector Luis Garcia fight

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Last Saturday, Capital One Arena was home to a boxing match, headlined by Gervonta Davis vs. Hector Luis Garcia. Davis won the match by technical knockout after eight rounds.

Of course, you aren’t reading this site to learn about boxing. What about the Washington Wizards?

In boxing matches, it is common to see celebrities, like athletes sit near the ring. The Wizards were no exception.

Bradley Beal and his wife Kamiah were there

Source: https://www.bulletsforever.com/2023/1/9/23546411/washington-wizards-gervonta-davis-hector-garcia-fight-bradley-beal-rui-hachimura-kyle-kuzma (https://www.bulletsforever.com/2023/1/9/23546411/washington-wizards-gervonta-davis-hector-garcia-fight-bradley-beal-rui-hachimura-kyle-kuzma)


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: Japinat on January 11, 2023, 06:07:23 PM
Ryan Garcia taking aim at Tank and says that he will finished him in 2 rounds, hehehe

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“Prediction for the fight – I say I'll beat him in about two rounds,” Garcia told The Joe Pomp Show.

https://www.boxingscene.com/ryan-garcia-predicts-hell-ko-tank-2-rounds-hes-never-faced-adversity-risk-ring--171581

Ryan already hyping himself in this fight, saying that he will finished him in 2 rounds. I doubt though, Davis is known to be very cautious in the early rounds of his fight, just trying to figure out his opponents before making any adjustments. Specially if his opponent is someone of a knock out artist, just like in the Romero fight wherein he started very slow and trying not to get caught with big punch early. And we wanted the fight a bit longer, so that they will bring the best out of this two boxers.

Big words for a young man that hasn't yet fought any tough opponents in his whole career and saying that he can finish a fight in mere 2 rounds against Tank Davis. Now, I know that he's just trying to hype himself and to market their future fight even though it's not yet fixed but those words are too far from reality because Davis is no ordinary boxer that he can defeat that easily. He may have the size but the IQ belongs to the title holder.

Lol, but yes this is true, Ryan Garcia's mouth is to big for him and probably this is the reason why he is called social media king because when he opens his mouth, it's all about hyping his fight and what not.

But he hasn't proved anything, yeah, me made a comeback and his mental issues is behind him.

Nevertheless, he hasn't beaten anyone in the top 10 or the 135 lbs to just talk smuck to Davis like that. We will see Tank's reply in his next fight against Hector Garcia this weekend.

That was indeed the reason why Garcia is called the social media king and probably the only title that fits him right now where he has no one to compete with. But I reckon, again, those phrase that he said towards Tank Davis was way too much from his side because he will get embarrassed if he will get defeated here as he will look like a clown who bit more than what he can really chew. And by the way, Davis got an impressive result from his recent fight as he ended Hector by a way of TKO.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: Baofeng on January 11, 2023, 11:36:40 PM
I think that's already a given fact on Ryan, remember he even calls Davis "ugly" to be a champ in the Mike Tyson podcast.
This is 2 years ago and he says the same thing, 2 rounds: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oe35Bmq1A4I
And he still has the same attitude mate, but the good thing is that they are going to face each other and let's see who is going to put to sleep on the canvass and how long this fight is going to last.

I can't wait for their promotional speech in their upcoming fights and it would be even more worth watching this time. I think they both hate each other and find themselves to be the best rivalry that needs to clash in the ring to prove to everyone who is the best boxer in the weight division. This time Garcia can truly prove to the world that he is not only strong against small fishes and he can also take down big fish with his left hook too. Davis should not let other's critics of Garcia make him at ease because they both need to do as much training as they can because this time they are both at the advantage.

Yes, that would be great to see and I think it's somehow safe to assume that there will be some spicy words that will go in the air because of their heat. Anyway, as far as I know, there was no rivalry before and it was Ryan Garcia that started this as he's calling Davis to fight him but the latter is not interested as he's not that known before. Garcia kept on provoking Davis which resulted to this bout, I hope Ryan Garcia knows what he is up to and that he can back his words because he will be embarrassed for sure if it turns out that he's biting more than what he can chew.

Hehehe, yeah, they really hate each other, this has been going on for the last 2 years or so and Ryan Garcia has been calling Tank Davis out for the longest time. At least though, the fight is going to push through now, there are no stumbling block, Davis is no longer with the promotional company of Floyd. And speaking of Floyd though, he challenge Tank to be great, more than Floyd himself, but I don't know how Tank can accomplished it. I mean probably he will be stuck to 140 lbs as it might be difficult for him to go to 147 lbs as he will be at a disadvantage at that weight class.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: Kemarit on January 12, 2023, 01:50:35 AM
I think that's already a given fact on Ryan, remember he even calls Davis "ugly" to be a champ in the Mike Tyson podcast.
This is 2 years ago and he says the same thing, 2 rounds: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oe35Bmq1A4I
And he still has the same attitude mate, but the good thing is that they are going to face each other and let's see who is going to put to sleep on the canvass and how long this fight is going to last.

I can't wait for their promotional speech in their upcoming fights and it would be even more worth watching this time. I think they both hate each other and find themselves to be the best rivalry that needs to clash in the ring to prove to everyone who is the best boxer in the weight division. This time Garcia can truly prove to the world that he is not only strong against small fishes and he can also take down big fish with his left hook too. Davis should not let other's critics of Garcia make him at ease because they both need to do as much training as they can because this time they are both at the advantage.

When two fighters who really hate each other and wants to go into the ring and take each other's head, it will be pure hype. Both loves to trash talk so every chance they got, they will surely bad mouth each other. And in the press con it will be huge because there will be fans around watching live so this two for sure will go at each other.

This is a defining fight for Ryan, he has been calling Davis and he wants to gain respect in this fight. Both have good left hooks so the first one who can hit clean could have a good chance to win by knockout.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: carlisle1 on January 12, 2023, 02:00:26 AM
I think that's already a given fact on Ryan, remember he even calls Davis "ugly" to be a champ in the Mike Tyson podcast.
This is 2 years ago and he says the same thing, 2 rounds: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oe35Bmq1A4I
And he still has the same attitude mate, but the good thing is that they are going to face each other and let's see who is going to put to sleep on the canvass and how long this fight is going to last.

I can't wait for their promotional speech in their upcoming fights and it would be even more worth watching this time. I think they both hate each other and find themselves to be the best rivalry that needs to clash in the ring to prove to everyone who is the best boxer in the weight division. This time Garcia can truly prove to the world that he is not only strong against small fishes and he can also take down big fish with his left hook too. Davis should not let other's critics of Garcia make him at ease because they both need to do as much training as they can because this time they are both at the advantage.

When two fighters who really hate each other and wants to go into the ring and take each other's head, it will be pure hype. Both loves to trash talk so every chance they got, they will surely bad mouth each other. And in the press con it will be huge because there will be fans around watching live so this two for sure will go at each other.

This is a defining fight for Ryan, he has been calling Davis and he wants to gain respect in this fight. Both have good left hooks so the first one who can hit clean could have a good chance to win by knockout.

I love to see them hyping this upcoming fight during the presscon, it will attract more potential viewers and they will have a successful
ticket sales, the intention was really there for both fighters.

Aggregable with Ryan's fate if he manages to win this one from Tank then the wait is worthy for him, while in Davis side it also serves as
good hype if he will beat Garcia as it's always his action towards those exchange words.

Let see if what will happen once, they both inside the ring.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: btc_angela on January 12, 2023, 06:40:54 AM
I think that's already a given fact on Ryan, remember he even calls Davis "ugly" to be a champ in the Mike Tyson podcast.
This is 2 years ago and he says the same thing, 2 rounds: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oe35Bmq1A4I
And he still has the same attitude mate, but the good thing is that they are going to face each other and let's see who is going to put to sleep on the canvass and how long this fight is going to last.

I can't wait for their promotional speech in their upcoming fights and it would be even more worth watching this time. I think they both hate each other and find themselves to be the best rivalry that needs to clash in the ring to prove to everyone who is the best boxer in the weight division. This time Garcia can truly prove to the world that he is not only strong against small fishes and he can also take down big fish with his left hook too. Davis should not let other's critics of Garcia make him at ease because they both need to do as much training as they can because this time they are both at the advantage.

When two fighters who really hate each other and wants to go into the ring and take each other's head, it will be pure hype. Both loves to trash talk so every chance they got, they will surely bad mouth each other. And in the press con it will be huge because there will be fans around watching live so this two for sure will go at each other.

This is a defining fight for Ryan, he has been calling Davis and he wants to gain respect in this fight. Both have good left hooks so the first one who can hit clean could have a good chance to win by knockout.

I love to see them hyping this upcoming fight during the presscon, it will attract more potential viewers and they will have a successful
ticket sales, the intention was really there for both fighters.

Aggregable with Ryan's fate if he manages to win this one from Tank then the wait is worthy for him, while in Davis side it also serves as
good hype if he will beat Garcia as it's always his action towards those exchange words.

Let see if what will happen once, they both inside the ring.

For sure, even today, we are already hype about the upcoming fight and Ryan telling the public that it will be over in 2 rounds. So for sure the tickets might sold out after it's being released in public. And if that happens then we know that this 2 will become the next PPV stars who knows.

So far the odds are not out yet because there are no official released date for the said fight.

But once sports bookies open it up, I will not be surprised as Tank will be the obvious favorite here.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: cryptomaniac_xxx on January 12, 2023, 07:00:07 AM
I think that's already a given fact on Ryan, remember he even calls Davis "ugly" to be a champ in the Mike Tyson podcast.
This is 2 years ago and he says the same thing, 2 rounds: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oe35Bmq1A4I
And he still has the same attitude mate, but the good thing is that they are going to face each other and let's see who is going to put to sleep on the canvass and how long this fight is going to last.

I can't wait for their promotional speech in their upcoming fights and it would be even more worth watching this time. I think they both hate each other and find themselves to be the best rivalry that needs to clash in the ring to prove to everyone who is the best boxer in the weight division. This time Garcia can truly prove to the world that he is not only strong against small fishes and he can also take down big fish with his left hook too. Davis should not let other's critics of Garcia make him at ease because they both need to do as much training as they can because this time they are both at the advantage.

Yes, that would be great to see and I think it's somehow safe to assume that there will be some spicy words that will go in the air because of their heat. Anyway, as far as I know, there was no rivalry before and it was Ryan Garcia that started this as he's calling Davis to fight him but the latter is not interested as he's not that known before. Garcia kept on provoking Davis which resulted to this bout, I hope Ryan Garcia knows what he is up to and that he can back his words because he will be embarrassed for sure if it turns out that he's biting more than what he can chew.

What I don't like though is that those boxers who throw below the belt insults against each other, they shouldn't allow themselves to talk about someone's family or wife or kids. Lets the trash talking between this two fighters that's it. It could be personal attack like what Ryan said on Davis years ago, or Tank accusing Ryan or taking some drugs because he looks huge right now or talking about his mental health excuses. So shots have been fired in the media already, but in the end we will see who's mouth can back the talks when they face each other in April.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: Ararbermas on January 12, 2023, 07:08:28 AM
 They're both monsters on that devision so for sure this will be the best fight and most interesting to watch in year 2023.  See both fighters are heavy handed especially Ryan wherein he always put his opponent in knock down like a blink of an eye in just a short round. So this will become a very unpredictable fight. I know tank is really an aggressive fighter as well compared to Ryan but let's see who will gonna take the belt afterwards.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: Yamifoud on January 12, 2023, 10:36:32 AM
They're both monsters on that devision so for sure this will be the best fight and most interesting to watch in year 2023.  See both fighters are heavy handed especially Ryan wherein he always put his opponent in knock down like a blink of an eye in just a short round. So this will become a very unpredictable fight. I know tank is really an aggressive fighter as well compared to Ryan but let's see who will gonna take the belt afterwards.

This is one of the best fights this year, both are still in their prime, so they should be able to sell this fight and earn millions of dollars. The 2nd one that I like to see is the fight between Loma and Haney, though Loma seemed not already on his prime but I don't want to judge him on his fight with Haney, I believe he is capable of winning.

Lastly, Crawford vs Spence, it should be the best fight if it's close to happening, unfortunately, this is just pure hype as they don't want to make it happen.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: Cryptmuster on January 12, 2023, 11:20:43 AM

What I don't like though is that those boxers who throw below the belt insults against each other, they shouldn't allow themselves to talk about someone's family or wife or kids. Lets the trash talking between this two fighters that's it. It could be personal attack like what Ryan said on Davis years ago, or Tank accusing Ryan or taking some drugs because he looks huge right now or talking about his mental health excuses. So shots have been fired in the media already, but in the end we will see who's mouth can back the talks when they face each other in April.

I understand that with this chatter boxers support the hype around the fight, maybe it's even part of their duties that managers require of them (I'm not sure about that), but I do not support this. For me, the inability of a person to keep his mouth shut is a sign of a small mind. If you are a real champion, then all that is required of you is to enter the ring and show your best, everything else is superfluous. Muhammad Ali, Tyson, Lewis each showed their strength in the ring, but none of them wasted their strength outside the ring on empty chatter.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on January 12, 2023, 05:55:55 PM
I think that's already a given fact on Ryan, remember he even calls Davis "ugly" to be a champ in the Mike Tyson podcast.
This is 2 years ago and he says the same thing, 2 rounds: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oe35Bmq1A4I
And he still has the same attitude mate, but the good thing is that they are going to face each other and let's see who is going to put to sleep on the canvass and how long this fight is going to last.

I can't wait for their promotional speech in their upcoming fights and it would be even more worth watching this time. I think they both hate each other and find themselves to be the best rivalry that needs to clash in the ring to prove to everyone who is the best boxer in the weight division. This time Garcia can truly prove to the world that he is not only strong against small fishes and he can also take down big fish with his left hook too. Davis should not let other's critics of Garcia make him at ease because they both need to do as much training as they can because this time they are both at the advantage.

Yes, that would be great to see and I think it's somehow safe to assume that there will be some spicy words that will go in the air because of their heat. Anyway, as far as I know, there was no rivalry before and it was Ryan Garcia that started this as he's calling Davis to fight him but the latter is not interested as he's not that known before. Garcia kept on provoking Davis which resulted to this bout, I hope Ryan Garcia knows what he is up to and that he can back his words because he will be embarrassed for sure if it turns out that he's biting more than what he can chew.

I think Garcia wants to do everything he can to get attention so that they can count him for a lot of things, not just for this fight, but for the next ones that are coming up, if we take into account, but because of everything he's said García means that he is willing to go for everything in each of his fights, in terms of this we can say that he does not have much respect for Davis, and considering that Davis is a boxer who is something more serious, he will have to silence him. Anyway, sometimes this boxing thing lends itself to many things, I remember that one day that happened to Oscar de la Hoya, and it was with Mayweather and the Mexican beat him.

Paulie Malignaggi questions Ryan Garcia’s “mentality” for Gervonta Davis fight

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By Huck Allen: Paulie Malignaggi isn’t quite sure about Ryan Garcia’s mentality going into what could be a grueling fight where he’d need to get in the trenches to defeat Gervonta ‘Tank’ Davis in their proposed fight in April. Malignaggi says he’s only seen the 24-year-old Ryan (23-0, 19 KOs) in a tough fight once in which he had to get up off the deck to defeat Luke Campbell in 2021, but then after that, he “disappeared,” which suggests that he was frightened by the experience and didn’t want to risk having that happen again. Malignaggi feels that Tank (28-0, 26 KOs) is more willing to get in the trenches in a tough fight in which he’s hurt than Ryan, who seems to be all over the place outside of the ring.


Source: https://www.boxingnews24.com/2023/01/paulie-malignaggi-questions-ryan-garcias-mentality-for-gervonta-davis-fight/ (https://www.boxingnews24.com/2023/01/paulie-malignaggi-questions-ryan-garcias-mentality-for-gervonta-davis-fight/)


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: Baofeng on January 14, 2023, 11:28:17 AM
^^  I don't know, but Paulie M. is already retired long time ago I not sure if we can value what he had said, he had a good career, no doubt, but he was not great to be honest, pillow fisted fighter, all he do is bark and with no bite, and when Cotto broke his jaw, it was over for him as his career didn't go up after that huge beating he got.


Anyway back on topic, Ryan says that he knows what Tank is doing, playing mind games already specially with what he says about his PED accusations. So he is ready by any attack from Tank's camp and on the other hand, he can throw his trash talk as well which he has been doing for the last couple of years. So I guess the feeling is mutual about this two with their accusations and verbal abuse.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: Sanitough on January 14, 2023, 11:34:25 AM
^^  I don't know, but Paulie M. is already retired long time ago I not sure if we can value what he had said, he had a good career, no doubt, but he was not great to be honest, pillow fisted fighter, all he do is bark and with no bite, and when Cotto broke his jaw, it was over for him as his career didn't go up after that huge beating he got.
It's just his opinion though, but the most important now is that Ryan Garcia is taking a big challenge, he is willing to risk his belt against a fighter that is stronger than him based on how majority of the fans seen on their match. Davis is such a tough opponent, strong mentally and physically, so if Garcia is not Physically fit, then we will see a problem which I'm hoping will not happen.



Anyway back on topic, Ryan says that he knows what Tank is doing, playing mind games already specially with what he says about his PED accusations. So he is ready by any attack from Tank's camp and on the other hand, he can throw his trash talk as well which he has been doing for the last couple of years. So I guess the feeling is mutual about this two with their accusations and verbal abuse.

That's alright, it will heat up the upcoming fight, more hype for these two will sure gain the attention of the public, which would definitely result to viewership and money to the pockets.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on January 15, 2023, 01:17:33 PM
^^  I don't know, but Paulie M. is already retired long time ago I not sure if we can value what he had said, he had a good career, no doubt, but he was not great to be honest, pillow fisted fighter, all he do is bark and with no bite, and when Cotto broke his jaw, it was over for him as his career didn't go up after that huge beating he got.


Anyway back on topic, Ryan says that he knows what Tank is doing, playing mind games already specially with what he says about his PED accusations. So he is ready by any attack from Tank's camp and on the other hand, he can throw his trash talk as well which he has been doing for the last couple of years. So I guess the feeling is mutual about this two with their accusations and verbal abuse.

Well, we cannot deny that Tank is a boxer who is like from the old school, he knows many things, he knows how to face the psychological factor, and of course he takes advantage of the networks to do what some friends say here is a "Psycho-terror" "It is something that is used a lot to cause fear to the rival, that is why Garcia says those things, because he knows very well what he is doing, however these boxers are as they say here: they are "old foxes" you know very well Well, they always look for a way to make an entire show by letting people know many things that only they handle in the ring, and in this there is of course an associated "pique", something that we all know.

Ryan Garcia dismisses Gervonta 'Tank' Davis mind games - 'I see all the tricks'

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The American duo are set to fight this April.

Ryan Garcia is confident he will defeat Gervonta ‘Tank’ Davis if they do meet in April and dismissed recent criticism as mind games.

Tank beat Hector Luis Garcia with an impressive display last weekend, with his Mexican opponent having to retire on his stool after losing vision, such was the strength of his unbeaten American opponent.

He had taken the fight to stay sharp ahead of a clash with Ryan Garcia, with the pair both seemingly expecting to meet on April 15.

Source: https://www.dazn.com/en-US/news/boxing/ryan-garcia-dismisses-gervonta-tank-davis-mind-games-i-see-all-the-tricks/xdn5n1kkz75j1emavwjuogvkp (https://www.dazn.com/en-US/news/boxing/ryan-garcia-dismisses-gervonta-tank-davis-mind-games-i-see-all-the-tricks/xdn5n1kkz75j1emavwjuogvkp)


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: Viscore on January 15, 2023, 10:40:34 PM

What I don't like though is that those boxers who throw below the belt insults against each other, they shouldn't allow themselves to talk about someone's family or wife or kids. Lets the trash talking between this two fighters that's it. It could be personal attack like what Ryan said on Davis years ago, or Tank accusing Ryan or taking some drugs because he looks huge right now or talking about his mental health excuses. So shots have been fired in the media already, but in the end we will see who's mouth can back the talks when they face each other in April.

I understand that with this chatter boxers support the hype around the fight, maybe it's even part of their duties that managers require of them (I'm not sure about that), but I do not support this. For me, the inability of a person to keep his mouth shut is a sign of a small mind. If you are a real champion, then all that is required of you is to enter the ring and show your best, everything else is superfluous. Muhammad Ali, Tyson, Lewis each showed their strength in the ring, but none of them wasted their strength outside the ring on empty chatter.
Same with Pacquiao too, he’s not fond of talking shitty words against his opponents, or even touch the personal lives of his opponents, but only give his best shot when inside the ring to beat his match. Let the performance talks, not the mouth. That way, whether you win or lose at the end of the fight, at least you have not harm others from your own words.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: carlisle1 on January 16, 2023, 08:51:58 AM

What I don't like though is that those boxers who throw below the belt insults against each other, they shouldn't allow themselves to talk about someone's family or wife or kids. Lets the trash talking between this two fighters that's it. It could be personal attack like what Ryan said on Davis years ago, or Tank accusing Ryan or taking some drugs because he looks huge right now or talking about his mental health excuses. So shots have been fired in the media already, but in the end we will see who's mouth can back the talks when they face each other in April.

I understand that with this chatter boxers support the hype around the fight, maybe it's even part of their duties that managers require of them (I'm not sure about that), but I do not support this. For me, the inability of a person to keep his mouth shut is a sign of a small mind. If you are a real champion, then all that is required of you is to enter the ring and show your best, everything else is superfluous. Muhammad Ali, Tyson, Lewis each showed their strength in the ring, but none of them wasted their strength outside the ring on empty chatter.
Same with Pacquiao too, he’s not fond of talking shitty words against his opponents, or even touch the personal lives of his opponents, but only give his best shot when inside the ring to beat his match. Let the performance talks, not the mouth. That way, whether you win or lose at the end of the fight, at least you have not harm others from your own words.
Yup! Pacquiao will just quietly break you and prove that he's the best when you already fighting inside the ring. No wonder why he attracts
more fans each time he has a schedule fight.

Though some of the promoters are allowed or maybe ask for some publicity coming from the fighter, trash talks are being expressed.

The only way to prove and conclude your words is once you already beat your opponents!


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: Baofeng on January 16, 2023, 11:10:28 AM

What I don't like though is that those boxers who throw below the belt insults against each other, they shouldn't allow themselves to talk about someone's family or wife or kids. Lets the trash talking between this two fighters that's it. It could be personal attack like what Ryan said on Davis years ago, or Tank accusing Ryan or taking some drugs because he looks huge right now or talking about his mental health excuses. So shots have been fired in the media already, but in the end we will see who's mouth can back the talks when they face each other in April.

I understand that with this chatter boxers support the hype around the fight, maybe it's even part of their duties that managers require of them (I'm not sure about that), but I do not support this. For me, the inability of a person to keep his mouth shut is a sign of a small mind. If you are a real champion, then all that is required of you is to enter the ring and show your best, everything else is superfluous. Muhammad Ali, Tyson, Lewis each showed their strength in the ring, but none of them wasted their strength outside the ring on empty chatter.
Same with Pacquiao too, he’s not fond of talking shitty words against his opponents, or even touch the personal lives of his opponents, but only give his best shot when inside the ring to beat his match. Let the performance talks, not the mouth. That way, whether you win or lose at the end of the fight, at least you have not harm others from your own words.

I guess maybe it's about the era's as well, and now that we are in social media era, boxers like Ryan Garcia became superstar because of their social media presence, hehehe.

In any case, Ryan Garcia's promoter, issue a ultimatum on and says that he doesn't have any contract yet and they will proceed and move on if the camp of Tank Davis will not submit any by Monday. So there is still drama in this fight and we don't know if the fight is going to happen or not. So let's wait for the official announcement first.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: bisdak40 on January 16, 2023, 12:12:32 PM
In any case, Ryan Garcia's promoter, issue a ultimatum on and says that he doesn't have any contract yet and they will proceed and move on if the camp of Tank Davis will not submit any by Monday. So there is still drama in this fight and we don't know if the fight is going to happen or not. So let's wait for the official announcement first.

I also have read that tweet of Oscar Dela Hoya and this makes me think that Ryan Garcia was used by Tank Davis to promote his recent fight with Hector Garcia. I doubt the timing of him announcing that his supposed to be fight with Ryan is a done deal when in fact there's no contract signed then after the announcement, he also announced that he will be back in the ring with Hector his opponent.

Bottomline, i doubt that this Ryan Garcia vs Tank Davis will push through, lots of hurdle to overcome on the side of Team Davis.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: stadus on January 16, 2023, 12:21:08 PM
In any case, Ryan Garcia's promoter, issue a ultimatum on and says that he doesn't have any contract yet and they will proceed and move on if the camp of Tank Davis will not submit any by Monday. So there is still drama in this fight and we don't know if the fight is going to happen or not. So let's wait for the official announcement first.

I also have read that tweet of Oscar Dela Hoya and this makes me think that Ryan Garcia was used by Tank Davis to promote his recent fight with Hector Garcia. I doubt the timing of him announcing that his supposed to be fight with Ryan is a done deal when in fact there's no contract signed then after the announcement, he also announced that he will be back in the ring with Hector his opponent.

Bottomline, i doubt that this Ryan Garcia vs Tank Davis will push through, lots of hurdle to overcome on the side of Team Davis.

As long as there's no contract yet, there's no assurance that the fight will happen. It's not in our control, they have to make sure that they will have it done so they will fight at the expected date. Boxers nowadays are just good in marketing with less or no action, hopefully these two are an exception.

I don't understand, Ryan Garcia even cancelled his tune up fight to focus solely on Davis, but now we are hearing rumors that it might not push through?


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: cabron on January 16, 2023, 02:58:42 PM
In any case, Ryan Garcia's promoter, issue a ultimatum on and says that he doesn't have any contract yet and they will proceed and move on if the camp of Tank Davis will not submit any by Monday. So there is still drama in this fight and we don't know if the fight is going to happen or not. So let's wait for the official announcement first.

I also have read that tweet of Oscar Dela Hoya and this makes me think that Ryan Garcia was used by Tank Davis to promote his recent fight with Hector Garcia. I doubt the timing of him announcing that his supposed to be fight with Ryan is a done deal when in fact there's no contract signed then after the announcement, he also announced that he will be back in the ring with Hector his opponent.

Bottomline, i doubt that this Ryan Garcia vs Tank Davis will push through, lots of hurdle to overcome on the side of Team Davis.

As long as there's no contract yet, there's no assurance that the fight will happen. It's not in our control, they have to make sure that they will have it done so they will fight at the expected date. Boxers nowadays are just good in marketing with less or no action, hopefully these two are an exception.

I don't understand, Ryan Garcia even cancelled his tune up fight to focus solely on Davis, but now we are hearing rumors that it might not push through?

I saw an interview with Ryan reassuring Helwani that it will happen by April and that the promotion is just arranging undercard fights. The division of profit I guess has to be discussed yet. Davis may have split from Floyd's influence but he must have learned from Floyd about done deals.

They are going to wait til there will be old enough for thier bones to brittle before they fight. No different from the old-generation boxers who just kept avoiding. It's just Pacman the Greatest who is ready to face young and old.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: Vaculin on January 16, 2023, 03:07:25 PM

What I don't like though is that those boxers who throw below the belt insults against each other, they shouldn't allow themselves to talk about someone's family or wife or kids. Lets the trash talking between this two fighters that's it. It could be personal attack like what Ryan said on Davis years ago, or Tank accusing Ryan or taking some drugs because he looks huge right now or talking about his mental health excuses. So shots have been fired in the media already, but in the end we will see who's mouth can back the talks when they face each other in April.

I understand that with this chatter boxers support the hype around the fight, maybe it's even part of their duties that managers require of them (I'm not sure about that), but I do not support this. For me, the inability of a person to keep his mouth shut is a sign of a small mind. If you are a real champion, then all that is required of you is to enter the ring and show your best, everything else is superfluous. Muhammad Ali, Tyson, Lewis each showed their strength in the ring, but none of them wasted their strength outside the ring on empty chatter.
Same with Pacquiao too, he’s not fond of talking shitty words against his opponents, or even touch the personal lives of his opponents, but only give his best shot when inside the ring to beat his match. Let the performance talks, not the mouth. That way, whether you win or lose at the end of the fight, at least you have not harm others from your own words.

And you won't get some embarrassments in the aftermath of the fight because you cannot do what you're talking before the fight began as the people will only criticize and paint you that you bit more than what you can only chew. Well, Pacquiao probably haven't thought about that at all because his personality is not like that and even after the fight, you can't see him talking trash about the opponent that he just got defeated.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: robelneo on January 16, 2023, 03:17:29 PM
In any case, Ryan Garcia's promoter, issue a ultimatum on and says that he doesn't have any contract yet and they will proceed and move on if the camp of Tank Davis will not submit any by Monday. So there is still drama in this fight and we don't know if the fight is going to happen or not. So let's wait for the official announcement first.

I also have read that tweet of Oscar Dela Hoya and this makes me think that Ryan Garcia was used by Tank Davis to promote his recent fight with Hector Garcia. I doubt the timing of him announcing that his supposed to be fight with Ryan is a done deal when in fact there's no contract signed then after the announcement, he also announced that he will be back in the ring with Hector his opponent.

Bottomline, i doubt that this Ryan Garcia vs Tank Davis will push through, lots of hurdle to overcome on the side of Team Davis.

As long as there's no contract yet, there's no assurance that the fight will happen. It's not in our control, they have to make sure that they will have it done so they will fight at the expected date. Boxers nowadays are just good in marketing with less or no action, hopefully these two are an exception.

I don't understand, Ryan Garcia even cancelled his tune up fight to focus solely on Davis, but now we are hearing rumors that it might not push through?

I also believe that the fight will not happen if there's n contract to show, remember Crawford announced that the contract is done deal until it was canceled, this is the same scenario we are seeing, we will have to wait for a few more days for confirmation that the fight will not push through, its better that they announce it now, so we can move on and stop hoping that the fight is not going to happen, I pity Ryan after many years he is only champion on Instagram, he has no legit title to his credit, even though people think she has potential.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: stadus on January 17, 2023, 07:32:33 PM
In any case, Ryan Garcia's promoter, issue a ultimatum on and says that he doesn't have any contract yet and they will proceed and move on if the camp of Tank Davis will not submit any by Monday. So there is still drama in this fight and we don't know if the fight is going to happen or not. So let's wait for the official announcement first.

I also have read that tweet of Oscar Dela Hoya and this makes me think that Ryan Garcia was used by Tank Davis to promote his recent fight with Hector Garcia. I doubt the timing of him announcing that his supposed to be fight with Ryan is a done deal when in fact there's no contract signed then after the announcement, he also announced that he will be back in the ring with Hector his opponent.

Bottomline, i doubt that this Ryan Garcia vs Tank Davis will push through, lots of hurdle to overcome on the side of Team Davis.

As long as there's no contract yet, there's no assurance that the fight will happen. It's not in our control, they have to make sure that they will have it done so they will fight at the expected date. Boxers nowadays are just good in marketing with less or no action, hopefully these two are an exception.

I don't understand, Ryan Garcia even cancelled his tune up fight to focus solely on Davis, but now we are hearing rumors that it might not push through?

I saw an interview with Ryan reassuring Helwani that it will happen by April and that the promotion is just arranging undercard fights. The division of profit I guess has to be discussed yet. Davis may have split from Floyd's influence but he must have learned from Floyd about done deals.

They are going to wait til there will be old enough for thier bones to brittle before they fight. No different from the old-generation boxers who just kept avoiding. It's just Pacman the Greatest who is ready to face young and old.


Hehe no doubt about Manny Pacquiao, the guy hasn't faced any criticism that he avoided the fight that's why lots of people and fans are favoring him and labeling him as one of the greatest boxer in the history. Anyway, rumors will remain rumors as long as there will be no official announcement but think that the Davis-Garcia fight will materialize but for the profit discussion, Davis has got to be in the A-side even if he's already flying alone now. 


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: carlisle1 on January 24, 2023, 09:26:31 AM
In any case, Ryan Garcia's promoter, issue a ultimatum on and says that he doesn't have any contract yet and they will proceed and move on if the camp of Tank Davis will not submit any by Monday. So there is still drama in this fight and we don't know if the fight is going to happen or not. So let's wait for the official announcement first.

I also have read that tweet of Oscar Dela Hoya and this makes me think that Ryan Garcia was used by Tank Davis to promote his recent fight with Hector Garcia. I doubt the timing of him announcing that his supposed to be fight with Ryan is a done deal when in fact there's no contract signed then after the announcement, he also announced that he will be back in the ring with Hector his opponent.

Bottomline, i doubt that this Ryan Garcia vs Tank Davis will push through, lots of hurdle to overcome on the side of Team Davis.

As long as there's no contract yet, there's no assurance that the fight will happen. It's not in our control, they have to make sure that they will have it done so they will fight at the expected date. Boxers nowadays are just good in marketing with less or no action, hopefully these two are an exception.

I don't understand, Ryan Garcia even cancelled his tune up fight to focus solely on Davis, but now we are hearing rumors that it might not push through?

I saw an interview with Ryan reassuring Helwani that it will happen by April and that the promotion is just arranging undercard fights. The division of profit I guess has to be discussed yet. Davis may have split from Floyd's influence but he must have learned from Floyd about done deals.

They are going to wait til there will be old enough for thier bones to brittle before they fight. No different from the old-generation boxers who just kept avoiding. It's just Pacman the Greatest who is ready to face young and old.


Hehe no doubt about Manny Pacquiao, the guy hasn't faced any criticism that he avoided the fight that's why lots of people and fans are favoring him and labeling him as one of the greatest boxer in the history. Anyway, rumors will remain rumors as long as there will be no official announcement but think that the Davis-Garcia fight will materialize but for the profit discussion, Davis has got to be in the A-side even if he's already flying alone now. 

He's always been ready when someone challenge him or if his camp negotiates to anyone who's also available to fight him,
Pacman earned respect to the whole boxing industry.

Moving back to the topic, I see the point that if there's no contract yet then we should not conclude, the contract signing might be the
good indication that the fight will happen.

Unless one of the fighters will change his mind, just like what Ryan did last time with his schedule fight.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: Kelvinid on January 24, 2023, 09:58:46 AM

Hehe no doubt about Manny Pacquiao, the guy hasn't faced any criticism that he avoided the fight that's why lots of people and fans are favoring him and labeling him as one of the greatest boxer in the history. Anyway, rumors will remain rumors as long as there will be no official announcement but think that the Davis-Garcia fight will materialize but for the profit discussion, Davis has got to be in the A-side even if he's already flying alone now. 

That's why I miss him, he is a kind of fighter that does not care about his undefeated record, he just fight and always go for a big fight, the reason why he is one of the richest in the sports of boxing. Manny Pacquiao had already retired, but good thing he still do some exhibition fights, so we can still see him in the ring although not pro  anymore.

Davis and Garcia should show the world that they don't care about their undefeated record, they have to fight the best to entertain the fans, because the fans looks like they are robbed when a boxer is just cherry picking to ensure their win.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: Jawhead999 on January 24, 2023, 02:29:48 PM
That's why I miss him, he is a kind of fighter that does not care about his undefeated record, he just fight and always go for a big fight, the reason why he is one of the richest in the sports of boxing. Manny Pacquiao had already retired, but good thing he still do some exhibition fights, so we can still see him in the ring although not pro  anymore.

Davis and Garcia should show the world that they don't care about their undefeated record, they have to fight the best to entertain the fans, because the fans looks like they are robbed when a boxer is just cherry picking to ensure their win.
It's because to gain popularity and reputation, one of the way is make sure they have undefeated record. Pacquiao has become the first boxer who fight in 8 different weights and a champion in 5 different weights. Mike Tyson and Muhammad Ali are have an insane number of fighting, Ali the most fastest heavyweight boxer while Tyson has an iron punch.

Both Garcia and Tank doesn't have anything new or beating their record, they're just an ordinary boxer like the other champion.

I think they're just want to play in their "safe zone" maybe the paycheck is already enough for them and they're not really care to get new achievement which can ruin their reputation.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: electronicash on January 24, 2023, 04:25:19 PM
That's why I miss him, he is a kind of fighter that does not care about his undefeated record, he just fight and always go for a big fight, the reason why he is one of the richest in the sports of boxing. Manny Pacquiao had already retired, but good thing he still do some exhibition fights, so we can still see him in the ring although not pro  anymore.

Davis and Garcia should show the world that they don't care about their undefeated record, they have to fight the best to entertain the fans, because the fans looks like they are robbed when a boxer is just cherry picking to ensure their win.
It's because to gain popularity and reputation, one of the way is make sure they have undefeated record. Pacquiao has become the first boxer who fight in 8 different weights and a champion in 5 different weights. Mike Tyson and Muhammad Ali are have an insane number of fighting, Ali the most fastest heavyweight boxer while Tyson has an iron punch.

Both Garcia and Tank doesn't have anything new or beating their record, they're just an ordinary boxer like the other champion.

I think they're just want to play in their "safe zone" maybe the paycheck is already enough for them and they're not really care to get new achievement which can ruin their reputation.

well gotta hold on to that undefeated reputation. It's the only one they have. ifn they lose one fight, they'd be nothing to thier fans already unless they become a champ in the next division and another. the first loss they say is the most devastating of all for a boxer who cares too much about reputation.

Manny Pacquiao comes from a very poor beginning, he didn't care about losing, he just want to provide for his family. But in the process of doing so, he becomes the greatest who will fight whoever challenges him.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: btc_angela on January 24, 2023, 07:51:07 PM
That's why I miss him, he is a kind of fighter that does not care about his undefeated record, he just fight and always go for a big fight, the reason why he is one of the richest in the sports of boxing. Manny Pacquiao had already retired, but good thing he still do some exhibition fights, so we can still see him in the ring although not pro  anymore.

Davis and Garcia should show the world that they don't care about their undefeated record, they have to fight the best to entertain the fans, because the fans looks like they are robbed when a boxer is just cherry picking to ensure their win.
It's because to gain popularity and reputation, one of the way is make sure they have undefeated record. Pacquiao has become the first boxer who fight in 8 different weights and a champion in 5 different weights. Mike Tyson and Muhammad Ali are have an insane number of fighting, Ali the most fastest heavyweight boxer while Tyson has an iron punch.

Both Garcia and Tank doesn't have anything new or beating their record, they're just an ordinary boxer like the other champion.

I think they're just want to play in their "safe zone" maybe the paycheck is already enough for them and they're not really care to get new achievement which can ruin their reputation.

Or maybe that how they are protected by their manager, in the case of Davis, Floyd trying not to forced him to fight good and elite boxers because they don't want to lose his cash cow, so still undefeated record for Tank. Same with Oscar and his Golden Boy, they protected Ryan throughout his career although it almost derail their plans when he got knockdown by Campbell. But the good thing is that Ryan was able to get up and win that fight via knockout.

So they setup this fight for their biggest paycheck no doubt and probably the winner will go for the belt next, either Haney or Loma, or they can go and decide to move to 140 lbs which is better in my opinion.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: Jawhead999 on January 25, 2023, 11:41:24 AM
So they setup this fight for their biggest paycheck no doubt and probably the winner will go for the belt next, either Haney or Loma, or they can go and decide to move to 140 lbs which is better in my opinion.
Honestly I'm completely doubt if the winner either Tank or Garcia will want to fight with Haney or Loma lol.

What I think both of them will decide to move to 140 lbs, but the good thing the loser will don't have any pressure to fight with the next boxer because he wouldn't need to think to protect his undefeated record. Shame to see almost everyone are giving more priority for fame and money rather than their achievement. But it's what it's, at least the boxer which get few losses will not regret since there's no barrier and he accept to fight with anyone.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: Kemarit on January 25, 2023, 11:50:40 AM
So they setup this fight for their biggest paycheck no doubt and probably the winner will go for the belt next, either Haney or Loma, or they can go and decide to move to 140 lbs which is better in my opinion.
Honestly I'm completely doubt if the winner either Tank or Garcia will want to fight with Haney or Loma lol.

What I think both of them will decide to move to 140 lbs, but the good thing the loser will don't have any pressure to fight with the next boxer because he wouldn't need to think to protect his undefeated record. Shame to see almost everyone are giving more priority for fame and money rather than their achievement. But it's what it's, at least the boxer which get few losses will not regret since there's no barrier and he accept to fight with anyone.


Well why not? maybe if the belt is on the line they will have to fight either of those guys. But it's more likely that Garcia will move to 140 lbs, I mean he has been fighting in catch weight already. And if not for this huge fight as 136 lbs, he might skipped it. But the opportunity to fight Davis for all the glory, money and respect is here. So if that is the case against either Loma or Haney, then maybe he will also fight, same with Davis, I reckon. But let's see for this two, it seems that this is the only fight that they are concern right now and not mentioning the name of Loma or Haney.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on January 25, 2023, 11:59:01 PM

What I don't like though is that those boxers who throw below the belt insults against each other, they shouldn't allow themselves to talk about someone's family or wife or kids. Lets the trash talking between this two fighters that's it. It could be personal attack like what Ryan said on Davis years ago, or Tank accusing Ryan or taking some drugs because he looks huge right now or talking about his mental health excuses. So shots have been fired in the media already, but in the end we will see who's mouth can back the talks when they face each other in April.

I understand that with this chatter boxers support the hype around the fight, maybe it's even part of their duties that managers require of them (I'm not sure about that), but I do not support this. For me, the inability of a person to keep his mouth shut is a sign of a small mind. If you are a real champion, then all that is required of you is to enter the ring and show your best, everything else is superfluous. Muhammad Ali, Tyson, Lewis each showed their strength in the ring, but none of them wasted their strength outside the ring on empty chatter.
Same with Pacquiao too, he’s not fond of talking shitty words against his opponents, or even touch the personal lives of his opponents, but only give his best shot when inside the ring to beat his match. Let the performance talks, not the mouth. That way, whether you win or lose at the end of the fight, at least you have not harm others from your own words.

I think this is a very professional way of handling things, a boxer should not interfere in the life of another or touch certain things that are only private to the opponent, I have seen some who interfere in the life of bulls and not they are doing very well, besides that it seems unethical to me, of course when we talk about the great legend like Pacquiao is another level, we all know that he is a person who, apart from being very good in sports, sets an example of what should always be done, He doesn't praise himself so much, he doesn't seek to have verbal contact with his opponent, he just shows everything in the ring, and I think that's the best thing, the one who talks a lot recently.

Oscar De La Hoya “assures” fans that Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia will happen, but fight not official yet

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Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia is thought to be basically a done deal for April 15, but “basically” is no guarantee in boxing.

Garcia’s promoter Oscar De La Hoya got the contract from the other side earlier this week, not long after threatening to “move on” from the bout, and De La Hoya spoke with The DAZN Boxing Show (sign up at DAZN.com) about where the situation is at right now.

“We have the contract in our possession, and it’s a long form. It’s very detailed. We are just gonna have to cross the T’s and dot the I’s, that’s basically it,” he said.

“Can I confirm? Obviously not, until it’s official-official, but as a fighter, as a promoter, as a fan that wants to see the fight, I can assure you this fight’s going to happen.

Source: https://www.badlefthook.com/2023/1/24/23569996/oscar-de-la-hoya-assures-fans-gervonta-davis-vs-ryan-garcia-will-happen-boxing-news-2023 (https://www.badlefthook.com/2023/1/24/23569996/oscar-de-la-hoya-assures-fans-gervonta-davis-vs-ryan-garcia-will-happen-boxing-news-2023)


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: Dave1 on January 26, 2023, 01:31:31 AM

Hehe no doubt about Manny Pacquiao, the guy hasn't faced any criticism that he avoided the fight that's why lots of people and fans are favoring him and labeling him as one of the greatest boxer in the history. Anyway, rumors will remain rumors as long as there will be no official announcement but think that the Davis-Garcia fight will materialize but for the profit discussion, Davis has got to be in the A-side even if he's already flying alone now. 

That's why I miss him, he is a kind of fighter that does not care about his undefeated record, he just fight and always go for a big fight, the reason why he is one of the richest in the sports of boxing. Manny Pacquiao had already retired, but good thing he still do some exhibition fights, so we can still see him in the ring although not pro  anymore.

Davis and Garcia should show the world that they don't care about their undefeated record, they have to fight the best to entertain the fans, because the fans looks like they are robbed when a boxer is just cherry picking to ensure their win.

Manny's mindset is really of a true warrior, he doesn't care about if he has losses or not, as long as he will face the best of his division or for every division that he goes up. But the best is that he fought 3 of Mexico's great warriors, all HOF'ers and that's what makes money a legendary fighter.

As compare to the new breed like Ryan and Tank Davis who are protected by their promotions and doesn't want to see them losses because they are cash cows. But in this fight, someone will experience his first taste of defeat.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: Yamifoud on January 26, 2023, 12:32:08 PM

Hehe no doubt about Manny Pacquiao, the guy hasn't faced any criticism that he avoided the fight that's why lots of people and fans are favoring him and labeling him as one of the greatest boxer in the history. Anyway, rumors will remain rumors as long as there will be no official announcement but think that the Davis-Garcia fight will materialize but for the profit discussion, Davis has got to be in the A-side even if he's already flying alone now. 

That's why I miss him, he is a kind of fighter that does not care about his undefeated record, he just fight and always go for a big fight, the reason why he is one of the richest in the sports of boxing. Manny Pacquiao had already retired, but good thing he still do some exhibition fights, so we can still see him in the ring although not pro  anymore.

Davis and Garcia should show the world that they don't care about their undefeated record, they have to fight the best to entertain the fans, because the fans looks like they are robbed when a boxer is just cherry picking to ensure their win.

Manny's mindset is really of a true warrior, he doesn't care about if he has losses or not, as long as he will face the best of his division or for every division that he goes up. But the best is that he fought 3 of Mexico's great warriors, all HOF'ers and that's what makes money a legendary fighter.

As compare to the new breed like Ryan and Tank Davis who are protected by their promotions and doesn't want to see them losses because they are cash cows. But in this fight, someone will experience his first taste of defeat.

Although Bob Arum is known for milking his cash cow, he was able to give Manny Pacman a great future in boxing, and he is the main reason why Pacman is now a legend in sports of boxing. Maybe things have really change now, boxers just like to be comfortable in order to retain their belts, they don't want to risk against a fighter who have a good record, and if that will continue, this boxing industry will suffer in the long run.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: freedomgo on January 26, 2023, 08:57:52 PM

Hehe no doubt about Manny Pacquiao, the guy hasn't faced any criticism that he avoided the fight that's why lots of people and fans are favoring him and labeling him as one of the greatest boxer in the history. Anyway, rumors will remain rumors as long as there will be no official announcement but think that the Davis-Garcia fight will materialize but for the profit discussion, Davis has got to be in the A-side even if he's already flying alone now. 

That's why I miss him, he is a kind of fighter that does not care about his undefeated record, he just fight and always go for a big fight, the reason why he is one of the richest in the sports of boxing. Manny Pacquiao had already retired, but good thing he still do some exhibition fights, so we can still see him in the ring although not pro  anymore.

Davis and Garcia should show the world that they don't care about their undefeated record, they have to fight the best to entertain the fans, because the fans looks like they are robbed when a boxer is just cherry picking to ensure their win.

Manny's mindset is really of a true warrior, he doesn't care about if he has losses or not, as long as he will face the best of his division or for every division that he goes up. But the best is that he fought 3 of Mexico's great warriors, all HOF'ers and that's what makes money a legendary fighter.

As compare to the new breed like Ryan and Tank Davis who are protected by their promotions and doesn't want to see them losses because they are cash cows. But in this fight, someone will experience his first taste of defeat.

Although Bob Arum is known for milking his cash cow, he was able to give Manny Pacman a great future in boxing, and he is the main reason why Pacman is now a legend in sports of boxing. Maybe things have really change now, boxers just like to be comfortable in order to retain their belts, they don't want to risk against a fighter who have a good record, and if that will continue, this boxing industry will suffer in the long run.

Both Bob Arum and Manny Pacquiao needed each other and both benefited from the situation, it's not a one-way road for them and Manny Pacquiao wouldn't leave Bob Arum's stable if both of them got a pure understanding towards each others goal but no, Bob Arum still wanted a safer journey for the getting older Manny to maintain his value but the latter doesn't want that treatment as he believe to himself that he can still win some fights even if he's age is getting older. Hence, why MP Promotions was built.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: Baofeng on January 26, 2023, 10:36:24 PM
^^  I don't know, but Paulie M. is already retired long time ago I not sure if we can value what he had said, he had a good career, no doubt, but he was not great to be honest, pillow fisted fighter, all he do is bark and with no bite, and when Cotto broke his jaw, it was over for him as his career didn't go up after that huge beating he got.


Anyway back on topic, Ryan says that he knows what Tank is doing, playing mind games already specially with what he says about his PED accusations. So he is ready by any attack from Tank's camp and on the other hand, he can throw his trash talk as well which he has been doing for the last couple of years. So I guess the feeling is mutual about this two with their accusations and verbal abuse.

Well, we cannot deny that Tank is a boxer who is like from the old school, he knows many things, he knows how to face the psychological factor, and of course he takes advantage of the networks to do what some friends say here is a "Psycho-terror" "It is something that is used a lot to cause fear to the rival, that is why Garcia says those things, because he knows very well what he is doing, however these boxers are as they say here: they are "old foxes" you know very well Well, they always look for a way to make an entire show by letting people know many things that only they handle in the ring, and in this there is of course an associated "pique", something that we all know.

I don't think he is form old school though, we have this new era of social media and that's where boxers like Ryan and Tank do their talking. Unlike before wherein they just want to face the best in their division, but now it's totally different.

Mind games have existed before though, Ali for example is one of those who open his mouth and trash his opponent even inside the ring.

But he can back all the talking because he is the GOAT. Unlike new boxers in this era, they are afraid to face the best and would likely be protected because boxing is now more of a business side.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: coin-investor on January 26, 2023, 11:37:37 PM
^^  I don't know, but Paulie M. is already retired long time ago I not sure if we can value what he had said, he had a good career, no doubt, but he was not great to be honest, pillow fisted fighter, all he do is bark and with no bite, and when Cotto broke his jaw, it was over for him as his career didn't go up after that huge beating he got.


Anyway back on topic, Ryan says that he knows what Tank is doing, playing mind games already specially with what he says about his PED accusations. So he is ready by any attack from Tank's camp and on the other hand, he can throw his trash talk as well which he has been doing for the last couple of years. So I guess the feeling is mutual about this two with their accusations and verbal abuse.

Well, we cannot deny that Tank is a boxer who is like from the old school, he knows many things, he knows how to face the psychological factor, and of course he takes advantage of the networks to do what some friends say here is a "Psycho-terror" "It is something that is used a lot to cause fear to the rival, that is why Garcia says those things, because he knows very well what he is doing, however these boxers are as they say here: they are "old foxes" you know very well Well, they always look for a way to make an entire show by letting people know many things that only they handle in the ring, and in this there is of course an associated "pique", something that we all know.

I don't think he is form old school though, we have this new era of social media and that's where boxers like Ryan and Tank do their talking. Unlike before wherein they just want to face the best in their division, but now it's totally different.

Mind games have existed before though, Ali for example is one of those who open his mouth and trash his opponent even inside the ring.

But he can back all the talking because he is the GOAT. Unlike new boxers in this era, they are afraid to face the best and would likely be protected because boxing is now more of a business side.


Because back then there were only two promotions, Bob Arum's and Don King's and there are two boxing organizations WBC and WBA now we have 4 or 5 boxing promotions and 4  boxing governing bodies, and boxers are protected by their promotions
because they are their cash cows, they imitated the MMA and WWE promotions where you can fight boxers in your promotions a big shift from the old times when boxers can fight just anybody and their promoters and the governing bodies will allow them.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on February 10, 2023, 01:09:31 AM
^^  I don't know, but Paulie M. is already retired long time ago I not sure if we can value what he had said, he had a good career, no doubt, but he was not great to be honest, pillow fisted fighter, all he do is bark and with no bite, and when Cotto broke his jaw, it was over for him as his career didn't go up after that huge beating he got.


Anyway back on topic, Ryan says that he knows what Tank is doing, playing mind games already specially with what he says about his PED accusations. So he is ready by any attack from Tank's camp and on the other hand, he can throw his trash talk as well which he has been doing for the last couple of years. So I guess the feeling is mutual about this two with their accusations and verbal abuse.

Well, we cannot deny that Tank is a boxer who is like from the old school, he knows many things, he knows how to face the psychological factor, and of course he takes advantage of the networks to do what some friends say here is a "Psycho-terror" "It is something that is used a lot to cause fear to the rival, that is why Garcia says those things, because he knows very well what he is doing, however these boxers are as they say here: they are "old foxes" you know very well Well, they always look for a way to make an entire show by letting people know many things that only they handle in the ring, and in this there is of course an associated "pique", something that we all know.

I don't think he is form old school though, we have this new era of social media and that's where boxers like Ryan and Tank do their talking. Unlike before wherein they just want to face the best in their division, but now it's totally different.

Mind games have existed before though, Ali for example is one of those who open his mouth and trash his opponent even inside the ring.

But he can back all the talking because he is the GOAT. Unlike new boxers in this era, they are afraid to face the best and would likely be protected because boxing is now more of a business side.


Well, you are absolutely right, in this era we are experiencing something new, something that has not been experienced before, social networks move things to a much more radical and violent level, the information goes too fast and becomes a trend, things now They are like that, the boxers that we saw before we knew when they made their statements on the sports channels, sometimes even in the news, for the old school boxers are already adapting to all these media, information is now one of the premises that we all know , and the preparation of each boxer we have the details when they allow it.

^^  I don't know, but Paulie M. is already retired long time ago I not sure if we can value what he had said, he had a good career, no doubt, but he was not great to be honest, pillow fisted fighter, all he do is bark and with no bite, and when Cotto broke his jaw, it was over for him as his career didn't go up after that huge beating he got.


Anyway back on topic, Ryan says that he knows what Tank is doing, playing mind games already specially with what he says about his PED accusations. So he is ready by any attack from Tank's camp and on the other hand, he can throw his trash talk as well which he has been doing for the last couple of years. So I guess the feeling is mutual about this two with their accusations and verbal abuse.

Well, we cannot deny that Tank is a boxer who is like from the old school, he knows many things, he knows how to face the psychological factor, and of course he takes advantage of the networks to do what some friends say here is a "Psycho-terror" "It is something that is used a lot to cause fear to the rival, that is why Garcia says those things, because he knows very well what he is doing, however these boxers are as they say here: they are "old foxes" you know very well Well, they always look for a way to make an entire show by letting people know many things that only they handle in the ring, and in this there is of course an associated "pique", something that we all know.

I don't think he is form old school though, we have this new era of social media and that's where boxers like Ryan and Tank do their talking. Unlike before wherein they just want to face the best in their division, but now it's totally different.

Mind games have existed before though, Ali for example is one of those who open his mouth and trash his opponent even inside the ring.

But he can back all the talking because he is the GOAT. Unlike new boxers in this era, they are afraid to face the best and would likely be protected because boxing is now more of a business side.


Because back then there were only two promotions, Bob Arum's and Don King's and there are two boxing organizations WBC and WBA now we have 4 or 5 boxing promotions and 4  boxing governing bodies, and boxers are protected by their promotions
because they are their cash cows, they imitated the MMA and WWE promotions where you can fight boxers in your promotions a big shift from the old times when boxers can fight just anybody and their promoters and the governing bodies will allow them.

In part, this means that instead of organizing more fights and making it clear that it is best to generate more fights, with the boxers, I think they have more power than the boxers themselves!? In my case, I practiced this sport, and everyone who challenged me accepted it, because my reputation was important to me, and it's not nice to be labeled a coward when you don't accept a challenge or a rematch, really boxing in time before it was much higher than now, from what I have seen it is a pure business model that is generated, something very sad. Those of us who have practiced this sport know how things really are, but of course at high levels where there is so much marketing, I think that the important thing here is money before sport.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: Kemarit on February 10, 2023, 08:31:31 AM
I read that Ryan Garcia is solving the supposedly rematch clause and who is supposedly had controls, say why not go for all or nothing? Winner takes everything, no rematch whatsoever.

That is a daring, but it's business, I doubt that Al Haymon or even his own boxing manager will allow that to happen.

They will just have to meet in the middle ground so that both parties can make money in this big fight.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: btc_angela on February 10, 2023, 12:27:05 PM
I read that Ryan Garcia is solving the supposedly rematch clause and who is supposedly had controls, say why not go for all or nothing? Winner takes everything, no rematch whatsoever.

That is a daring, but it's business, I doubt that Al Haymon or even his own boxing manager will allow that to happen.

They will just have to meet in the middle ground so that both parties can make money in this big fight.

It's not easy as it sounds, and Ryan knows that, maybe what he is trying to imply is that he is ready to fight Davis what ever the stakes are. And if this fight boggles down (hopefully not), all fingers are going to point to the camp of Tank Davis and Al Haymon.

It might be really hard to work a arrangement with that camp, but there are still hope that this fight can be salvage. It's ok for us to have the fight move because they are in a deadlock right now, as long as this is going to happen whether June or onwards.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: aioc on February 10, 2023, 02:27:20 PM
I read that Ryan Garcia is solving the supposedly rematch clause and who is supposedly had controls, say why not go for all or nothing? Winner takes everything, no rematch whatsoever.

That is a daring, but it's business, I doubt that Al Haymon or even his own boxing manager will allow that to happen.

They will just have to meet in the middle ground so that both parties can make money in this big fight.

Here is the article about that
https://www.boxingscene.com/ryan-garcia-tank-no-rematch-clause-winner-takes-all-coward-stop-staying-quiet-behind-haymon--172359

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De La Hoya said "It's only fair if Ryan wins, then our side controls everything as the A-side. This is just the way it always has been. ... It's common sense that whoever wins is the A-side. That's the bottom line. We're not reinventing the wheel here

Dela Hoya has a point if they win the rematch condition should be in their control this has been the way, but it seems Top Rank still wants the ball in their way, if the match is close and exciting there should be a rematch for the benefit of the boxing community, great boxers and great boxing always have a rematch.
I hope they agree on these rematch terms, it's surprising that the easiest to deal with could become the hindrance to this match.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: carlisle1 on February 10, 2023, 08:41:36 PM
I read that Ryan Garcia is solving the supposedly rematch clause and who is supposedly had controls, say why not go for all or nothing? Winner takes everything, no rematch whatsoever.

That is a daring, but it's business, I doubt that Al Haymon or even his own boxing manager will allow that to happen.

They will just have to meet in the middle ground so that both parties can make money in this big fight.

It's not easy as it sounds, and Ryan knows that, maybe what he is trying to imply is that he is ready to fight Davis what ever the stakes are. And if this fight boggles down (hopefully not), all fingers are going to point to the camp of Tank Davis and Al Haymon.

It might be really hard to work a arrangement with that camp, but there are still hope that this fight can be salvage. It's ok for us to have the fight move because they are in a deadlock right now, as long as this is going to happen whether June or onwards.

Ryan is the one who's very vocal fighting Davis so in terms of adjustment he's the one who needs to do everything to make the fight happens,
whatever it takes he and his camp needs to adjust.

It's really something that he can still make things happen and it a proper adjustment that they can deal with, the fight can be negotiated
and can be a close deal contract fight.

Even it can be move, fans will continue to chase for this fight.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: Maslate on February 11, 2023, 10:17:09 PM
I read that Ryan Garcia is solving the supposedly rematch clause and who is supposedly had controls, say why not go for all or nothing? Winner takes everything, no rematch whatsoever.

That is a daring, but it's business, I doubt that Al Haymon or even his own boxing manager will allow that to happen.

They will just have to meet in the middle ground so that both parties can make money in this big fight.

Here is the article about that
https://www.boxingscene.com/ryan-garcia-tank-no-rematch-clause-winner-takes-all-coward-stop-staying-quiet-behind-haymon--172359

Quote
De La Hoya said "It's only fair if Ryan wins, then our side controls everything as the A-side. This is just the way it always has been. ... It's common sense that whoever wins is the A-side. That's the bottom line. We're not reinventing the wheel here

Dela Hoya has a point if they win the rematch condition should be in their control this has been the way, but it seems Top Rank still wants the ball in their way, if the match is close and exciting there should be a rematch for the benefit of the boxing community, great boxers and great boxing always have a rematch.
I hope they agree on these rematch terms, it's surprising that the easiest to deal with could become the hindrance to this match.

You mean Al Haymon of PBC? Yes, that is already common sense as that was also happened in the fights where there is a rematch clause included in the contract. Of course, the winning boxer will have the favor to be in the A-side as he earned it. This Al Haymon is just messing things up that was once already established, I don't where he is heading at anymore because his fighters will be unfortunate as well because they are dragged by his nonsense.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: Baofeng on February 11, 2023, 10:55:48 PM
Anyone see the odds for this fight?

Davis - 1.35
Garcia - 2.95

So that is a huge gap, Ryan Garcia is 3:1 underdog in this fight, hehehe, I don't think that should be the gap, but sport bookies think that Tank Davis is more of the complete fighter and totally disregard of Ryan's power.

And if ever the fight pushes through, it's better for Ryan's fans to go bet right now, go to Vegas and put a lot of money or for us, go to our favorite crypto bookies and have that bet on the ML.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: coin-investor on February 11, 2023, 11:00:26 PM
I read that Ryan Garcia is solving the supposedly rematch clause and who is supposedly had controls, say why not go for all or nothing? Winner takes everything, no rematch whatsoever.

That is a daring, but it's business, I doubt that Al Haymon or even his own boxing manager will allow that to happen.

They will just have to meet in the middle ground so that both parties can make money in this big fight.

It's not easy as it sounds, and Ryan knows that, maybe what he is trying to imply is that he is ready to fight Davis what ever the stakes are. And if this fight boggles down (hopefully not), all fingers are going to point to the camp of Tank Davis and Al Haymon.

It might be really hard to work a arrangement with that camp, but there are still hope that this fight can be salvage. It's ok for us to have the fight move because they are in a deadlock right now, as long as this is going to happen whether June or onwards.

Ryan is the one who's very vocal fighting Davis so in terms of adjustment he's the one who needs to do everything to make the fight happens,
whatever it takes he and his camp needs to adjust.

It's really something that he can still make things happen and it a proper adjustment that they can deal with, the fight can be negotiated
and can be a close deal contract fight.

Even it can be move, fans will continue to chase for this fight.

He should make this fight happen, in his 7 years in boxing he hasn't proven anything but just being an Instagram superstar with no legit title to his credit and the only well-known fighter he has fought was Campbell, some of his contemporaries are already champions he should at least win one World title to make him a legit boxer, he is not on a great boxer level yet and this fight with Tank will catapult him to greatness and it is also this fight that could possibly sink his career.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: AmoreJaz on February 11, 2023, 11:58:31 PM
Anyone see the odds for this fight?

Davis - 1.35
Garcia - 2.95

So that is a huge gap, Ryan Garcia is 3:1 underdog in this fight, hehehe, I don't think that should be the gap, but sport bookies think that Tank Davis is more of the complete fighter and totally disregard of Ryan's power.

And if ever the fight pushes through, it's better for Ryan's fans to go bet right now, go to Vegas and put a lot of money or for us, go to our favorite crypto bookies and have that bet on the ML.

that would give a very good motivation for garcia to prepare and be at his best when he faces davis. right now, that's the odds, so maybe when the fight is getting near, they may give garcia like 2.5x. but so far bookies are giving davis at the spot here. davis' last fight was a tko with hector garcia and it was only last month. whereas, ryan garcia's last fight was july 2022. the gap is quite long for garcia, whereas, davis seems to be at his best. so let's see if there will be upset here or not.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: Kemarit on February 12, 2023, 01:30:31 AM
Anyone see the odds for this fight?

Davis - 1.35
Garcia - 2.95

So that is a huge gap, Ryan Garcia is 3:1 underdog in this fight, hehehe, I don't think that should be the gap, but sport bookies think that Tank Davis is more of the complete fighter and totally disregard of Ryan's power.

And if ever the fight pushes through, it's better for Ryan's fans to go bet right now, go to Vegas and put a lot of money or for us, go to our favorite crypto bookies and have that bet on the ML.

that would give a very good motivation for garcia to prepare and be at his best when he faces davis. right now, that's the odds, so maybe when the fight is getting near, they may give garcia like 2.5x. but so far bookies are giving davis at the spot here. davis' last fight was a tko with hector garcia and it was only last month. whereas, ryan garcia's last fight was july 2022. the gap is quite long for garcia, whereas, davis seems to be at his best. so let's see if there will be upset here or not.

Hmm, but that's about it, I mean the odds are fair in the beginning, it could change a lot though, like a big swing on Garcia as we get close to the game fight. It's obvious that Davis will be the favorite and I think Ryan's camp knows that.

And as you have said, not just the money but for the respect it will be a great motivation for Ryan to win against the highly touted Tank and then they can talk about the rematch after wards.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: Viscore on February 12, 2023, 09:59:34 PM
Anyone see the odds for this fight?

Davis - 1.35
Garcia - 2.95

So that is a huge gap, Ryan Garcia is 3:1 underdog in this fight, hehehe, I don't think that should be the gap, but sport bookies think that Tank Davis is more of the complete fighter and totally disregard of Ryan's power.

And if ever the fight pushes through, it's better for Ryan's fans to go bet right now, go to Vegas and put a lot of money or for us, go to our favorite crypto bookies and have that bet on the ML.

that would give a very good motivation for garcia to prepare and be at his best when he faces davis. right now, that's the odds, so maybe when the fight is getting near, they may give garcia like 2.5x. but so far bookies are giving davis at the spot here. davis' last fight was a tko with hector garcia and it was only last month. whereas, ryan garcia's last fight was july 2022. the gap is quite long for garcia, whereas, davis seems to be at his best. so let's see if there will be upset here or not.
Definitely, the present odds will challenge Garcia to improve his performance and give his best shot inside the ring. Otherwise, Davis will beat him because it’s obvious that Davis is the crowd’s favorite here because of his impressive fights prior to this fight. So if I were Garcia, I’d see this as a great motivation to be more serious in this fight and refrain from talking nonsense as it’s always the performance that will only matter in the end. So good luck and may the best player wins.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: Baofeng on February 12, 2023, 10:11:50 PM
Anyone see the odds for this fight?

Davis - 1.35
Garcia - 2.95

So that is a huge gap, Ryan Garcia is 3:1 underdog in this fight, hehehe, I don't think that should be the gap, but sport bookies think that Tank Davis is more of the complete fighter and totally disregard of Ryan's power.

And if ever the fight pushes through, it's better for Ryan's fans to go bet right now, go to Vegas and put a lot of money or for us, go to our favorite crypto bookies and have that bet on the ML.

that would give a very good motivation for garcia to prepare and be at his best when he faces davis. right now, that's the odds, so maybe when the fight is getting near, they may give garcia like 2.5x. but so far bookies are giving davis at the spot here. davis' last fight was a tko with hector garcia and it was only last month. whereas, ryan garcia's last fight was july 2022. the gap is quite long for garcia, whereas, davis seems to be at his best. so let's see if there will be upset here or not.
Definitely, the present odds will challenge Garcia to improve his performance and give his best shot inside the ring. Otherwise, Davis will beat him because it’s obvious that Davis is the crowd’s favorite here because of his impressive fights prior to this fight. So if I were Garcia, I’d see this as a great motivation to be more serious in this fight and refrain from talking nonsense as it’s always the performance that will only matter in the end. So good luck and may the best player wins.

Oh yes, boxers might not look at the odds when they have a fight, but for sure there will be someone in the camp that are going to whisper in their ear and tell them what the odds are. And since Garcia is so heighten in this fight and hearing that he is the underdog, yes, he could use this as extra motivation and inspire himself and his team to train better 110%.

However, him taking nonsense or trash talking is part of Garcia's personality, that's why he market and build himself and he has the talent. And fans love to hear him open his mouth though in every interview, because he always has some interesting things to say about his opponents.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: Maslate on February 13, 2023, 09:02:51 PM
I read that Ryan Garcia is solving the supposedly rematch clause and who is supposedly had controls, say why not go for all or nothing? Winner takes everything, no rematch whatsoever.

That is a daring, but it's business, I doubt that Al Haymon or even his own boxing manager will allow that to happen.

They will just have to meet in the middle ground so that both parties can make money in this big fight.

It's not easy as it sounds, and Ryan knows that, maybe what he is trying to imply is that he is ready to fight Davis what ever the stakes are. And if this fight boggles down (hopefully not), all fingers are going to point to the camp of Tank Davis and Al Haymon.

It might be really hard to work a arrangement with that camp, but there are still hope that this fight can be salvage. It's ok for us to have the fight move because they are in a deadlock right now, as long as this is going to happen whether June or onwards.

Ryan is the one who's very vocal fighting Davis so in terms of adjustment he's the one who needs to do everything to make the fight happens,
whatever it takes he and his camp needs to adjust.

It's really something that he can still make things happen and it a proper adjustment that they can deal with, the fight can be negotiated
and can be a close deal contract fight.

Even it can be move, fans will continue to chase for this fight.

He should make this fight happen, in his 7 years in boxing he hasn't proven anything but just being an Instagram superstar with no legit title to his credit and the only well-known fighter he has fought was Campbell, some of his contemporaries are already champions he should at least win one World title to make him a legit boxer, he is not on a great boxer level yet and this fight with Tank will catapult him to greatness and it is also this fight that could possibly sink his career.

But I guess that path won't come easy for him and become a world title champion because he got to defeat Tank Davis first for the interim belt and then defeat the unified champion, Devin Haney to have the regular world title which I think is quite impossible for now as Devin Haney is quite advanced compared to Ryan Garcia that lacks experience and exposure.

I think that is also the reason why Ryan Garcia moved to 140 because 135 is quite packed right now unlike in super-light. Either way, it's time for Garcia to face a much bigger challenges this time.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: Kasabus on February 13, 2023, 09:48:27 PM

What I don't like though is that those boxers who throw below the belt insults against each other, they shouldn't allow themselves to talk about someone's family or wife or kids. Lets the trash talking between this two fighters that's it. It could be personal attack like what Ryan said on Davis years ago, or Tank accusing Ryan or taking some drugs because he looks huge right now or talking about his mental health excuses. So shots have been fired in the media already, but in the end we will see who's mouth can back the talks when they face each other in April.

I understand that with this chatter boxers support the hype around the fight, maybe it's even part of their duties that managers require of them (I'm not sure about that), but I do not support this. For me, the inability of a person to keep his mouth shut is a sign of a small mind. If you are a real champion, then all that is required of you is to enter the ring and show your best, everything else is superfluous. Muhammad Ali, Tyson, Lewis each showed their strength in the ring, but none of them wasted their strength outside the ring on empty chatter.
Same with Pacquiao too, he’s not fond of talking shitty words against his opponents, or even touch the personal lives of his opponents, but only give his best shot when inside the ring to beat his match. Let the performance talks, not the mouth. That way, whether you win or lose at the end of the fight, at least you have not harm others from your own words.

Certainly, that's what separates them from being an ordinary boxers to a legendary boxer as they don't often open their mouth just to play with their opponent's minds or to show that their are courageous for provoking their foes but in reality, it's them who are like a scared kid because when time comes that they need to showcase their talents, most of them failed and very much afar from what they talked when the bout was still approaching.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: aioc on February 14, 2023, 09:37:59 PM
Anyone see the odds for this fight?

Davis - 1.35
Garcia - 2.95

So that is a huge gap, Ryan Garcia is 3:1 underdog in this fight, hehehe, I don't think that should be the gap, but sport bookies think that Tank Davis is more of the complete fighter and totally disregard of Ryan's power.

And if ever the fight pushes through, it's better for Ryan's fans to go bet right now, go to Vegas and put a lot of money or for us, go to our favorite crypto bookies and have that bet on the ML.

The fight could go either way but someone has to be an underdog and between the two Tank has accomplished a lot and overcome a lot of adversaries, compared to Ryan whose only accomplishment is having millions of followers on Instagram so obviously bookies will go to the guy who has accomplished a lot but in reality, the fight is a pretty match even both guys have power and can deliver huge knock out if anyone has an opening or opportunity.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: danherbias07 on February 15, 2023, 05:33:56 AM
Anyone see the odds for this fight?

Davis - 1.35
Garcia - 2.95

So that is a huge gap, Ryan Garcia is 3:1 underdog in this fight, hehehe, I don't think that should be the gap, but sport bookies think that Tank Davis is more of the complete fighter and totally disregard of Ryan's power.

And if ever the fight pushes through, it's better for Ryan's fans to go bet right now, go to Vegas and put a lot of money or for us, go to our favorite crypto bookies and have that bet on the ML.

The fight could go either way but someone has to be an underdog and between the two Tank has accomplished a lot and overcome a lot of adversaries, compared to Ryan whose only accomplishment is having millions of followers on Instagram so obviously bookies will go to the guy who has accomplished a lot but in reality, the fight is a pretty match even both guys have power and can deliver huge knock out if anyone has an opening or opportunity.
Ryan Garcia's chance here is while Tank Davis is taking his time to get his rhythm. Most of the time he starts slow and this is where he should take advantage with. I am not sure if they are really a match, both are good but when it comes to experience fighting with different boxers who are championship material, Davis had them.
It is definitely sure though that someone will be knocked out. This fight might not go to a decision so I will be monitoring the odds on knockout rounds rather than just taking the win or loss which ain't profitable unless you are betting for the underdog.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: Jawhead999 on February 15, 2023, 07:19:31 AM
It is definitely sure though that someone will be knocked out. This fight might not go to a decision so I will be monitoring the odds on knockout rounds rather than just taking the win or loss which ain't profitable unless you are betting for the underdog.
Knock out rounds would be profitable if you think Tank can knock out Garcia, I think it would be in late rounds e.g. 7-9 rounds or 10-12 rounds. But for me personally it's really hard to see knock out in this match, so I will watch for the odds on winning method Tank via decision. It should be high because he's have a high KO rate. As long as Garcia isn't too careless and only want to hit Tank, he wouldn't get knocked out.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: Maslate on February 15, 2023, 10:04:54 AM
It is definitely sure though that someone will be knocked out. This fight might not go to a decision so I will be monitoring the odds on knockout rounds rather than just taking the win or loss which ain't profitable unless you are betting for the underdog.
Knock out rounds would be profitable if you think Tank can knock out Garcia, I think it would be in late rounds e.g. 7-9 rounds or 10-12 rounds. But for me personally it's really hard to see knock out in this match, so I will watch for the odds on winning method Tank via decision. It should be high because he's have a high KO rate. As long as Garcia isn't too careless and only want to hit Tank, he wouldn't get knocked out.
A KO is more likely to happen than this fight reaching a decision. Both fighters are KO artists, so what else can we expect? We've seen Ryan Garcia get knocked down before, and if I'm not mistaken, it was in the early rounds. So if Davis lands a punch that knocks him down this time, I don't think he'll be able to stay in the game for much longer.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: rodskee on February 15, 2023, 10:32:49 AM
It is definitely sure though that someone will be knocked out. This fight might not go to a decision so I will be monitoring the odds on knockout rounds rather than just taking the win or loss which ain't profitable unless you are betting for the underdog.
Knock out rounds would be profitable if you think Tank can knock out Garcia, I think it would be in late rounds e.g. 7-9 rounds or 10-12 rounds. But for me personally it's really hard to see knock out in this match, so I will watch for the odds on winning method Tank via decision. It should be high because he's have a high KO rate. As long as Garcia isn't too careless and only want to hit Tank, he wouldn't get knocked out.
A KO is more likely to happen than this fight reaching a decision. Both fighters are KO artists, so what else can we expect? We've seen Ryan Garcia get knocked down before, and if I'm not mistaken, it was in the early rounds. So if Davis lands a punch that knocks him down this time, I don't think he'll be able to stay in the game for much longer.
all Boxers has a potential to bring their opponent down in one punch but this needs timing and strength .

Yeah Ryan Garcia have been knocked down once so there is always a chance to make this two , while Davis is also a strong fighter , this will be either a early knockout or a fight of stamina and skills to maintain their feet standing .

But personally , I am for garcia here .. ;D


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: Hypnosis00 on February 15, 2023, 10:43:19 AM
It is definitely sure though that someone will be knocked out. This fight might not go to a decision so I will be monitoring the odds on knockout rounds rather than just taking the win or loss which ain't profitable unless you are betting for the underdog.
Knock out rounds would be profitable if you think Tank can knock out Garcia, I think it would be in late rounds e.g. 7-9 rounds or 10-12 rounds. But for me personally it's really hard to see knock out in this match, so I will watch for the odds on winning method Tank via decision. It should be high because he's have a high KO rate. As long as Garcia isn't too careless and only want to hit Tank, he wouldn't get knocked out.
A KO is more likely to happen than this fight reaching a decision. Both fighters are KO artists, so what else can we expect? We've seen Ryan Garcia get knocked down before, and if I'm not mistaken, it was in the early rounds. So if Davis lands a punch that knocks him down this time, I don't think he'll be able to stay in the game for much longer.
all Boxers has a potential to bring their opponent down in one punch but this needs timing and strength .

Yeah Ryan Garcia have been knocked down once so there is always a chance to make this two , while Davis is also a strong fighter , this will be either a early knockout or a fight of stamina and skills to maintain their feet standing .

But personally , I am for garcia here .. ;D

I'm glad we are on the same side, mate. Garcia is also a KO artist, and although he has been knocked down once in his career, I would not underestimate his chin. He has trained hard for this fight, so I'm sure he will stand up again if that happens. On the other hand, Davis is known for his strength, but I like Garcia's size advantage in this match-up.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: Getmon on February 15, 2023, 11:00:14 AM
It is definitely sure though that someone will be knocked out. This fight might not go to a decision so I will be monitoring the odds on knockout rounds rather than just taking the win or loss which ain't profitable unless you are betting for the underdog.
Knock out rounds would be profitable if you think Tank can knock out Garcia, I think it would be in late rounds e.g. 7-9 rounds or 10-12 rounds. But for me personally it's really hard to see knock out in this match, so I will watch for the odds on winning method Tank via decision. It should be high because he's have a high KO rate. As long as Garcia isn't too careless and only want to hit Tank, he wouldn't get knocked out.
A KO is more likely to happen than this fight reaching a decision. Both fighters are KO artists, so what else can we expect? We've seen Ryan Garcia get knocked down before, and if I'm not mistaken, it was in the early rounds. So if Davis lands a punch that knocks him down this time, I don't think he'll be able to stay in the game for much longer.
all Boxers has a potential to bring their opponent down in one punch but this needs timing and strength .

Yeah Ryan Garcia have been knocked down once so there is always a chance to make this two , while Davis is also a strong fighter , this will be either a early knockout or a fight of stamina and skills to maintain their feet standing .

But personally , I am for garcia here .. ;D

I'm glad we are on the same side, mate. Garcia is also a KO artist, and although he has been knocked down once in his career, I would not underestimate his chin. He has trained hard for this fight, so I'm sure he will stand up again if that happens. On the other hand, Davis is known for his strength, but I like Garcia's size advantage in this match-up.
When Gervonta Davis went to the Super Bowl last Sunday, did anyone see him in a wheelchair? Because he is wealthy and still wants to go to that event, I thought he was just drunk. However, there was also talk of him having an injury to his ankle. He then sparred for six rounds yesterday, according to a boxing source. Because both boxers are skilled at KOs, this fight will almost certainly end in a knockout. Both are beatable; Garcia was down in his match with Campbell and Gervonta struggled against Cruz. It is interesting if Ryan Garcia is the one to first knock down Gervonta Davis.


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: rodskee on February 16, 2023, 01:51:22 AM
It is definitely sure though that someone will be knocked out. This fight might not go to a decision so I will be monitoring the odds on knockout rounds rather than just taking the win or loss which ain't profitable unless you are betting for the underdog.
Knock out rounds would be profitable if you think Tank can knock out Garcia, I think it would be in late rounds e.g. 7-9 rounds or 10-12 rounds. But for me personally it's really hard to see knock out in this match, so I will watch for the odds on winning method Tank via decision. It should be high because he's have a high KO rate. As long as Garcia isn't too careless and only want to hit Tank, he wouldn't get knocked out.
A KO is more likely to happen than this fight reaching a decision. Both fighters are KO artists, so what else can we expect? We've seen Ryan Garcia get knocked down before, and if I'm not mistaken, it was in the early rounds. So if Davis lands a punch that knocks him down this time, I don't think he'll be able to stay in the game for much longer.
all Boxers has a potential to bring their opponent down in one punch but this needs timing and strength .

Yeah Ryan Garcia have been knocked down once so there is always a chance to make this two , while Davis is also a strong fighter , this will be either a early knockout or a fight of stamina and skills to maintain their feet standing .

But personally , I am for garcia here .. ;D

I'm glad we are on the same side, mate. Garcia is also a KO artist, and although he has been knocked down once in his career, I would not underestimate his chin. He has trained hard for this fight, so I'm sure he will stand up again if that happens. On the other hand, Davis is known for his strength, but I like Garcia's size advantage in this match-up.
it is exaggerated to say that there is someone or chances that we may think about Underestimating happening here .

Both Boxer are tough and has same believer , means this fight will surely unpredictable lol.

but of course since we are on the same boat here? yes we will be looking for Garcia to win as we will also win in our bets  ;D


Title: Re: Gervonta Davis vs Ryan Garcia
Post by: Kemarit on February 16, 2023, 09:57:30 AM
It is definitely sure though that someone will be knocked out. This fight might not go to a decision so I will be monitoring the odds on knockout rounds rather than just taking the win or loss which ain't profitable unless you are betting for the underdog.
Knock out rounds would be profitable if you think Tank can knock out Garcia, I think it would be in late rounds e.g. 7-9 rounds or 10-12 rounds. But for me personally it's really hard to see knock out in this match, so I will watch for the odds on winning method Tank via decision. It should be high because he's have a high KO rate. As long as Garcia isn't too careless and only want to hit Tank, he wouldn't get knocked out.
A KO is more likely to happen than this fight reaching a decision. Both fighters are KO artists, so what else can we expect? We've seen Ryan Garcia get knocked down before, and if I'm not mistaken, it was in the early rounds. So if Davis lands a punch that knocks him down this time, I don't think he'll be able to stay in the game for much longer.
all Boxers has a potential to bring their opponent down in one punch but this needs timing and strength .

Yeah Ryan Garcia have been knocked down once so there is always a chance to make this two , while Davis is also a strong fighter , this will be either a early knockout or a fight of stamina and skills to maintain their feet standing .

But personally , I am for garcia here .. ;D

I'm glad we are on the same side, mate. Garcia is also a KO artist, and although he has been knocked down once in his career, I would not underestimate his chin. He has trained hard for this fight, so I'm sure he will stand up again if that happens. On the other hand, Davis is known for his strength, but I like Garcia's size advantage in this match-up.
When Gervonta Davis went to the Super Bowl last Sunday, did anyone see him in a wheelchair? Because he is wealthy and still wants to go to that event, I thought he was just drunk. However, there was also talk of him having an injury to his ankle. He then sparred for six rounds yesterday, according to a boxing source. Because both boxers are skilled at KOs, this fight will almost certainly end in a knockout. Both are beatable; Garcia was down in his match with Campbell and Gervonta struggled against Cruz. It is interesting if Ryan Garcia is the one to first knock down Gervonta Davis.

Yes, there were news that came out, but he denies it and shows this video,

https://twitter.com/Gervontaa/status/1625238999576236033

This is pretty much the funniest video I seen from him towards his haters, LOL, as you can see in that video, he is dancing around.

So no injury, news is fake and hopefully the fight is still going to happen.