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Title: Three millionth account registered
Post by: icopress on January 15, 2021, 05:38:35 PM

In May 2017, we celebrated the first million users, which is almost 8 years after the launch of the forum. Looking back, some of us may remember the discussion dedicated to the anniversary 2 millionth user who was registered on 03/04/2018. And although it was an alternative account, this does not negate the fact that it was a historical moment when we summed up the results and looked into the future with enthusiasm.

  • At the time of this posting, 2,999,089 profiles have been registered and I expect the Three Millionth User to be registered within 24 hours.

https://i.imgur.com/WcFUgpR.png


This is the anniversary thread and the continuation of the discussion started by Vod...... Are you ready for 2,000,000? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3245195.msg33828303#msg33828303) / Below are a few anniversary quotes ..

Sorry if it sounds VERY ironic that an alt has been the 2000000th account on this platform, but there are quite a few things that I have to tell you all, possibly a new post will be better. I started as a small BTC speculative investor and cared little about the tech, I then became a shitposting Bounty Hunter. But over the months I've come to realize that it's much more than being either of them. I am trying to learn about the technology, not only BTC, but also the alts. I feel that the socio-economic impact/aspect of this revolution will be far more reaching than just the tech and it is yet to come, although I still am a noob and monetize my original account (can't help it, the pay is lucrative); I try to improve my posts and contribute to the community in  the small ways that I can.
Hi guys, I am glad to take the uid #1999999.


Title: Re: [24h] Three Millionth User
Post by: icopress on January 15, 2021, 05:41:09 PM
I believe many will try to register this coveted three millionth ID, so if you suddenly decide, remember that the name "Three Millionth Loser" is already taken.

- And by the way, below you can see a more accurate forecast presented by tranthidung.

So if this parameter (new daily members) won't break it record in 2021 at 11413, the forum will need more than 24 hours (~ 1.47 days) to hit the 3th million users.


Title: Re: [24h] Three Millionth User
Post by: Vod on January 15, 2021, 05:45:58 PM
  • At the time of this posting, 2,999,089 profiles have been registered and I expect the Three Millionth User to be registered within 24 hours.

You trying to ninja sneak merits?   2,999,089 is not 3,000,000.  Let's wait for the proper thread.  :)

OK, I merited you - but only because you linked to a thread I had forgotten about.  lol


Title: Re: [24h] Three Millionth User
Post by: icopress on January 15, 2021, 06:03:02 PM
You trying to ninja sneak merits?   2,999,089 is not 3,000,000.  Let's wait for the proper thread.  :)

OK, I merited you - but only because you linked to a thread I had forgotten about.  lol
Man, believe me, I'm not looking for merit ... This post was only to give impetus to the discussion, since, in my opinion, this event is a great opportunity to chat. And I honestly had no desire to necropostate in your thread because I was not sure how soon you would answer, (in case I would suggest changing the thread name).


Title: Re: [24h] Three Millionth User
Post by: Vod on January 15, 2021, 06:26:05 PM
Man, believe me, I'm not looking for merit ...

Dude, I believe you.  :)

You obviously put time and energy into the post, and it wasn't a simple post first for the merit type thread.  

I hope the :)  and the "lol" will show people I was just toying with a buddy.

(The two millionth profile (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2000000) is no longer active)


Title: Re: [24h] Three Millionth User
Post by: RapTarX on January 15, 2021, 06:43:35 PM
(The two millionth profile (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2000000) is no longer active)
But his main account is active- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1074228
According to a feedback on that profile from ibminer, the account has been created by allahabadi and he was active in 13th January 2021.

Anyone planning to be the 3 millionth user?


Title: Re: [24h] Three Millionth User
Post by: LoyceV on January 15, 2021, 06:47:10 PM
Meanwhile on modlog (https://bitcointalk.org/modlog.php):
Code:
Nuke user: N/A in topic #0 by member #2973893
Nuke user: N/A in topic #0 by member #2973892
Nuke user: N/A in topic #0 by member #2973889
Nuke user: N/A in topic #0 by member #2973887
Nuke user: N/A in topic #0 by member #2973886
Nuke user: N/A in topic #0 by member #2973885
Nuke user: N/A in topic #0 by member #2973884
Nuke user: N/A in topic #0 by member #2973881
Nuke user: N/A in topic #0 by member #2973880
Nuke user: N/A in topic #0 by member #2973878
Nuke user: N/A in topic #0 by member #2973875
Nuke user: N/A in topic #0 by member #2973877
Nuke user: N/A in topic #0 by member #2973873
Nuke user: N/A in topic #0 by member #2999146
Odds are user 3000000 will be a spammer too.


Title: Re: [24h] Three Millionth User
Post by: icopress on January 15, 2021, 06:48:21 PM
I hope the :)  and the "lol" will show people I was just toying with a buddy.
Knowing you, I can say that you are sometimes a little aggressive (depending on your mood, I suppose), and your "lol" can have different contexts, after all, not everyone is as thick-skinned as LoyceV...

You obviously put time and energy into the post, and it wasn't a simple post first for the merit type thread.  
(The two millionth profile (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2000000) is no longer active)
I saw .. And the millionth user is also unfortunately not active, As far as time goes, you're right, though I spend more time creating graphics than creating a post. p.s. Do not forget that you will soon have an anniversary 20,000 post, which I think should be dedicated to OgNasty.  ::)


Title: Re: [24h] Three Millionth User
Post by: allahabadi on January 15, 2021, 06:49:53 PM
(The two millionth profile (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2000000) is no longer active)
But his main account is active- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1074228
According to a feedback on that profile from ibminer, the account has been created by allahabadi and he was active in 13th January 2021.

Anyone planning to be the 3 millionth user?

The issue is that I've lost my password... 🥺


Title: Re: [24h] Three Millionth User
Post by: Vod on January 15, 2021, 07:00:54 PM
I can say that you are sometimes a little aggressive (depending on your mood, I suppose)

True that.   But at least the reason was identified.  Who likes waking up to messages like this? (https://nastyscam.com/index.php/2021/01/14/when-matt-tried-to-have-me-killed/). 

Do not forget that you will soon have an anniversary 20,000 post, which I think should be dedicated to ...

Leaving scammers behind; I only was interested in the big one that was attacking my family.   I have nice plans for 20k post, but you just swiped the merit I would have got from announcing it!

:)   <-- means I'm joking about the last part.


Title: Re: [24h] Three Millionth User
Post by: jamyr on January 16, 2021, 12:04:25 AM
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=stats

Total members = 2983267

??

Total members == to number of registered users correct?


Title: Re: [24h] Three Millionth User
Post by: Vod on January 16, 2021, 12:35:12 AM
More reasons to add ~icopress to your trust list.   ;)

While waiting for the 3,000,000th user, I missed my 300th day on the forum.  
(Ok, I guess I could not have spent 26 hours online since his post seven hours ago.  My bad.)

Quote
Total time logged in: 301 days, 1 hours and 53 minutes.

Next stop:  One year of my life here reading/writing.  (And I've never botted)


Title: Re: [24h] Three Millionth User
Post by: icopress on January 16, 2021, 12:45:21 AM
Total members = 2983267
Total members == to number of registered users correct?
These statistics do not include deleted accounts (https://bpip.org/), of which there are currently 16,117. So if we sum up all archived profiles, inactive and active, we get "Largest profile on Bitcointalk", (2,177,346+651,889+170,047=2,999,282). I suspect deleted profiles are merged with archived ones ... (clarification). In any case, on the bpip website, you can view not only statistics, but use many other interesting features.

Edited: Wow, it's good that someone quickly realized their mistake [****0] .... But I managed to read it and I can say that then the numbers do not converge. Bpip displays 5 columns related to accounts (and as far as I know, deleted accounts did not violate general numerology in any way). Therefore, I concluded that remote profiles should be included in either "Archived Profiles", "Inactive Profiles" or "Active Profiles" (which is unlikely).


Title: Re: [24h] Three Millionth User
Post by: tranthidung on January 16, 2021, 04:53:09 AM

About plots
  • The two plots show how people are more actively creating new users on the forum especially since December 2020.
  • You can easily see this fact from how the boxes explode in the last 3 months (November 2020 to January 2021 - incomplete month).
  • They are mainly or partially come from the SEO-attacks.
  • The last plot (for 2020 only) gives a better visual view, after excludes the extraordinary upsurge in January 2021

As of writing, the forum has 2983322 members totally, according to Stats center (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=stats)

Now, let's go to some available stats and small estimation.
  • Required new members to hit 3th million record: 16678.
  • In median of 16 days in January of 2021 (p50 value in the raw result table): there is 1911 new members daily. The max value is 11413.
  • So if this parameter (new daily members) won't break it record in 2021 at 11413, the forum will need more than 24 hours (~ 1.47 days) to hit the 3th million users.
  • If it fluctuates around the median (1911), it might takes up to 8.73 days (~ 9 days) with the range of estimation based on interquartile range (939 to 4893 that are p25 and p75 values respectively) will be 3.41 days to 17.8 days.
  • To recap, there is a 50% that it would take the forum from 3.41 days to 17.8 days (based on the interquartile range) to hit 3th million member record. The most likely waiting time is 8.73 days (based on the median)


Code:
Summary for variables: n_mem
     by categories of: m

        m |         N      mean        sd       p50       p25       p75       min       max
----------+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
   2020m7 |      30.0     379.6      48.6     386.0     351.0     402.0     277.0     501.0
   2020m8 |      31.0     395.6      85.3     386.0     333.0     423.0     284.0     660.0
   2020m9 |      30.0     393.4      70.8     406.5     342.0     454.0     256.0     510.0
  2020m10 |      31.0     416.9     166.2     372.0     338.0     429.0     266.0    1018.0
  2020m11 |      30.0     588.2     193.3     507.0     428.0     703.0     384.0    1014.0
  2020m12 |      31.0    1886.3    1549.2    1483.0    1003.0    2424.0     554.0    9060.0
   2021m1 |      16.0    3153.4    3114.7    1911.0     939.0    4892.5     575.0   11413.0
----------+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Total |     199.0     879.2    1357.8     424.0     369.0     740.0     256.0   11413.0
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


How about daily new posts?

In contrast to daily new members, the statistic for total of daily new posts reached its peak in December 2020, not in January of 2021. Below are some plots and stats. Data interpretation can make in the same way above.

Possible reasons:
  • New members (spammers) are faster dectected and nuked in Jan 2021, so they can not abuse as long as in December 2020.
  • Those members are created and currently inactive, to prepare for future spam attacks.



Raw results
Code:
Summary for variables: n_posts
     by categories of: m

        m |         N      mean        sd       p50       p25       p75       min       max
----------+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
   2020m7 |      30.0    6382.6     586.7    6477.5    6175.0    6724.0    5091.0    7534.0
   2020m8 |      31.0    6270.6     283.6    6299.0    6068.0    6460.0    5606.0    6820.0
   2020m9 |      30.0    6290.3     527.1    6259.0    5888.0    6659.0    5477.0    7628.0
  2020m10 |      31.0    6498.0     513.7    6445.0    6134.0    6840.0    5462.0    7909.0
  2020m11 |      30.0    7556.1     642.0    7647.0    7238.0    8006.0    5756.0    8621.0
  2020m12 |      31.0    8554.2    1310.5    8176.0    7633.0    9161.0    6738.0   11538.0
   2021m1 |      16.0    7902.0     743.1    7747.5    7287.0    8106.5    7133.0    9653.0
----------+--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Total |     199.0    7006.6    1119.5    6718.0    6247.0    7633.0    5091.0   11538.0
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Details
Code:
     +-----------------------------+
     |      date   n_mem   n_posts |
     |-----------------------------|
185. | 01jan2021    5871      7840 |
186. | 02jan2021    1891      7294 |
187. | 03jan2021    3914      9653 |
188. | 04jan2021    2481      9331 |
189. | 05jan2021    2121      8009 |
190. | 06jan2021    1699      7710 |
191. | 07jan2021    1624      7878 |
192. | 08jan2021    1252      8204 |
193. | 09jan2021    5951      7661 |
194. | 10jan2021    7917      7133 |
195. | 11jan2021     576      7280 |
196. | 12jan2021     612      7785 |
197. | 13jan2021     626      7207 |
198. | 14jan2021     575      7268 |
199. | 15jan2021   11413      8662 |
200. | 16jan2021    1931      7517 |
     +-----------------------------+


Recent rises and spikes from daily new members, daily new posts, and woke-up cases probably come from same or different companies. The common thing is they come from spammers or people want to do attacks on the forum, try to compromise the forum for their own jobs.
  • See details for woke-up cases (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5302445.msg55895955#msg55895955)


Title: Re: [24h] Three Millionth User
Post by: RapTarX on January 17, 2021, 05:54:28 PM
Who registered the three millionth account?


Title: Re: [24h] Three Millionth User
Post by: ShowOff on January 17, 2021, 06:17:57 PM
Who registered the three millionth account?
Here it is, I think this user is not sleeping because he is waiting for the right time to register himself as a user of three million. Unique ID for the bitcointalk forum account.

https://i.ibb.co/KscqWNd/IMG-20210118-011401.jpg (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3000000)



1. One million users (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1000000)

2. Two million users (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2000000)

3. Three million users (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3000000)

I'm sure the bitcoin community will continue to grow and so will the number of users of this forum. 11 years 2 months ago(±) was when the first account was registered in the forum (admin). Congratulations to the incredible number of users.







Title: Re: [24h] Three Millionth User
Post by: aoluain on January 17, 2021, 06:39:04 PM
 
I believe many will try to register this coveted three millionth ID, so if you suddenly decide, remember that the name "Three Millionth Loser" is already taken.

- And by the way, below you can see a more accurate forecast presented by tranthidung.

So if this parameter (new daily members) won't break it record in 2021 at 11413, the forum will need more than 24 hours (~ 1.47 days) to hit the 3th million users.

...and Three Millionth Loser  :D (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2999999)


Title: Re: [24h] Three Millionth User
Post by: icopress on January 17, 2021, 06:59:10 PM
Congratulate everyone! We have finally crossed the 3 million registration mark!

...and Three Millionth Loser  :D (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2999999)
It's very ironic, isn't it? Especially considering that this username was registered under number 2999999.  8)
And hopefully Three Millionth User (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3000000) will answer soon on this thread .. Although I think it's someone's alt.


Title: Re: [24h] Three Millionth User
Post by: RapTarX on January 17, 2021, 07:05:10 PM
Congratulate everyone! We have finally crossed the 3 million registration mark!

...and Three Millionth Loser  :D (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2999999)
It's very ironic, isn't it? Especially considering that this username was registered under number 2999999.  8)
And hopefully Three Millionth User (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3000000) will answer soon on this thread .. Although I think it's someone's alt.
There were a few attempts I guess and someone saw this username and thought they were late to register the three millionth account. See the 2999998th user- 3 Millionth User (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2999998)
I planned earlier to register but forgot as I was busy with other things.


Title: Re: [24h] Three Millionth User
Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on January 18, 2021, 12:48:56 AM
You trying to ninja sneak merits?   2,999,089 is not 3,000,000.  Let's wait for the proper thread.  :)
Lol, I merited him because even if the 3 millionth member mark hasn't been hit yet (perhaps by now it has), this thread made me aware of how many registered users there actually are--it's a fact that I don't really care about, but when it hits a level that high it's sort of interesting.

Too bad it's just a large number and doesn't at all reflect on the quality of the membership on the forum.  So many accounts are alts or inactive or are just straight-up shitposters that 3 million is completely inflated if you compare it to the number of members active right now who don't just drop spam like they're throwing a bottle of piss from their car onto the highway.  You know what I mean even if I'm not expressing it correctly.

As it stands, it's the lowest numbers that are the ones to be the proudest of.


Title: Re: [24h] Three Millionth User
Post by: TheBeardedBaby on January 18, 2021, 11:36:41 AM
There's one more "premature" three millionth user > https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2999998
Whoever created those accounts he used most likely a script.
All 3 accounts were created without the user logged in, so Last active stays at : Never. THat's why I think only on person controls those accounts. Let's see if he shows up here. 


Title: Re: [24h] Three Millionth User
Post by: zasad@ on January 18, 2021, 08:06:21 PM
One millionth user
Squad_A
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1000000

Two millionth user
Allahabadialt
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2000000

It is sad that users do not stay on the forum.

Online now 500-600 people
https://bitcointalk.org/SSI.php?ssi_function=whosOnline




Title: Re: [24h] Three Millionth User
Post by: TheBeardedBaby on January 18, 2021, 08:13:13 PM
One millionth user
Squad_A
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1000000

Two millionth user
Allahabadialt
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2000000

It is sad that users do not stay on the forum.

Online now 500-600 people
https://bitcointalk.org/SSI.php?ssi_function=whosOnline




Those accounts are registered as alts accounts with only meaning to be as trophies not a real genuine users. Maybe they could be sold as collectibles one day,  like they are doing with the accounts with ID  below 10000 now. I remember it was a big competition who was going to registered the 2M account a few years back.

Wait for the ALTSEASON to kick in then you'll see a lot more ppl online.


Title: Re: [24h] Three Millionth User
Post by: Bitcoin_Arena on January 18, 2021, 08:45:26 PM
Looking at the forum stats (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=stats), I have a question.

Why is it that at the time of posting, the total number of forum members is 2984753 but at the same time the UID of the latest forum member seems greater (3000758) Daymaaar (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3000758)
I thought the total number of members should be the same as what is shown on the UID of the latest member.


Title: Re: [24h] Three Millionth User
Post by: zasad@ on January 18, 2021, 08:50:41 PM
One millionth user
Squad_A
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1000000

Two millionth user
Allahabadialt
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2000000

It is sad that users do not stay on the forum.

Online now 500-600 people
https://bitcointalk.org/SSI.php?ssi_function=whosOnline




Those accounts are registered as alts accounts with only meaning to be as trophies not a real genuine users. Maybe they could be sold as collectibles one day,  like they are doing with the accounts with ID  below 10000 now. I remember it was a big competition who was going to registered the 2M account a few years back.

Wait for the ALTSEASON to kick in then you'll see a lot more ppl online.
In 2017, the cryptocurrency market was called the Wild West because there was no regulation.
Everyone could issue their tokens and sell wherever they wanted.
Market capitalization grew due to rising prices
shitcoins, which are no longer there or they cost very little.
I think that now this is impossible to repeat, people have become smarter and government agencies have learned to find fraudsters and prosecute.


Title: Re: Three millionth account registered
Post by: tranthidung on January 19, 2021, 12:34:07 AM
Looking at the forum stats (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=stats), I have a question.

Why is it that at the time of posting, the total number of forum members is 2984753 but at the same time the UID of the latest forum member seems greater (3000758) Daymaaar (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3000758)
I thought the total number of members should be the same as what is shown on the UID of the latest member.
I don't know but some possible reasons
  • Past deleted accounts (in very early time of the forum). Maybe it is the total count for "she does not exist" from https://loyce.club/usernames/usernames.txt. I got troubles to import data recent weeks (again) so I can not check it now.
  • Nuked accounts. That stat is subtracted to total nuked accounts. Honestly, it is the reason I thought first but when I checked (see below), it is not.

The post is on 5 July 2020, months ago but total nuked accounts is 65770, that is far higher than 15936 (the gap between 2984822 and 3000758)
  • Total Autobanned users: 141917
  • Total Nuked users: 65770


Title: Re: Three millionth account registered
Post by: icopress on January 19, 2021, 01:02:15 AM
The post is on 5 July 2020, months ago but total nuked accounts is 65770, that is far higher than 15936 (the gap between 2984822 and 3000758)
Whatever data is displayed on the statistics page (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=stats), I am absolutely sure that this gap between the numbers is connected exclusively with deleted accounts, (since the deleted accounts are currently 16,117). And the discrepancy between the numbers presented here and the numbers displayed on bpip.org is another question. Perhaps this is due to the update intervals, given that at the moment, for example, I see that btcnfan's profile has been online for a total of 23184d ...


Title: Re: Three millionth account registered
Post by: TheBeardedBaby on January 19, 2021, 08:47:41 AM
In 2017, the cryptocurrency market was called the Wild West because there was no regulation.
Everyone could issue their tokens and sell wherever they wanted.
Market capitalization grew due to rising prices
shitcoins, which are no longer there or they cost very little.
I think that now this is impossible to repeat, people have become smarter and government agencies have learned to find fraudsters and prosecute.

Things have changed but not that much, there's always people hungry for $ and back in 2017 there were less restrictions than now it was a lot easier to automate everything and make money from almost nothing.
There are some significant changes in the forum that reduced the amount of "bounty hunters" and put the brake on the spam but they are not gone completely. People still developing and selling accounts, and the sig spammers and bounties hunters will be more and more.

When this happens you'll see the difference .

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EsFGrHcW8AARPTP?format=png&name=large

The post is on 5 July 2020, months ago but total nuked accounts is 65770, that is far higher than 15936 (the gap between 2984822 and 3000758)
Whatever data is displayed on the statistics page (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=stats), I am absolutely sure that this gap between the numbers is connected exclusively with deleted accounts, (since the deleted accounts are currently 16,117). And the discrepancy between the numbers presented here and the numbers displayed on bpip.org is another question. Perhaps this is due to the update intervals, given that at the moment, for example, I see that btcnfan's profile has been online for a total of 23184d ...

The stats page is not reliable source of info. Many of the stats are wrong, but it's not worth it go waste time on adjust them when you have many other 3rd party projects tracking even more stats.


Title: Re: Three millionth account registered
Post by: icopress on January 21, 2021, 08:12:17 PM
Can anyone explain such a high activity? We passed the 3 million registration mark literally 4 days ago... And over the past three days, 65,000 accounts have been registered, an average of 20,000 per day, which is much higher than the average statistical values presented by tranthidung, (although activity related to publications remains at the same level).

Edited: I think this is a record ... 37,065 (https://btctalk.live/today/?date=2021-01-20) accounts were registered on January 20.

https://i.imgur.com/pfYMXhe.png

In median of 16 days in January of 2021 (p50 value in the raw result table): there is 1911 new members daily. The max value is 11413.
So if this parameter (new daily members) won't break it record in 2021 at 11413, the forum will need more than 24 hours (~ 1.47 days) to hit the 3th million users.


Title: Re: Three millionth account registered
Post by: Halab on January 21, 2021, 10:55:29 PM
Can anyone explain such a high activity?

Hoho, that probably means that MindlessElectron (Mitchell's bot) is going to have a lot of work soon. It smells like preparation for a spam/SEO attack.
I don't understand the point of attacking Bitcointalk, it must be one of the places where there are the most geeks per pixel².


Title: Re: Three millionth account registered
Post by: notblox1 on January 22, 2021, 01:00:51 AM
This is crazy and at this pace we are going to hit 4 million soon, most of this new accounts will be bots and maybe we need to add more protection at registration with some extra steps.
Maybe we can't stop them but we can slow them down.


Title: Re: Three millionth account registered
Post by: Welsh on January 22, 2021, 01:12:34 AM
This is crazy and at this pace we are going to hit 4 million soon, most of this new accounts will be bots and maybe we need to add more protection at registration with some extra steps.
Maybe we can't stop them but we can slow them down.
In these instances its not possible to stop bots from registering without it having a negative effect on legitimate new users, so to be able to slow down attacks we would need to come up with a solution which addresses the issue at hand, while also not effecting normal usage. A quick brain storm probably brings up a sort of "quiz" which has randomly generated questions, and in a randomized order. This could serve as a way of a "tutorial" to using Bitcointalk, very much like the newbie welcome messages that's been mentioned in the past. However, this would likely still be too intrusive, versus its effectiveness.

We can't expect people to revise to enter the forum, at the same time we can't expect new users to be familiar with the forum software or Bitcoin. The latter especially, since that's probably the reason they're registering in the first place.


Title: Re: Three millionth account registered
Post by: Stedsm on January 22, 2021, 01:46:35 AM
Can anyone explain such a high activity?

Maybe not spam attack as Halab mentioned here but I think all these are either bots or are just registering for the sake of signature campaigns or bounties because BTC's spike caught eyes of even those who were talking shit about it ^yesterday^ and now licking it as a lollipop ^today^, so maybe those who were not aware about it, got told by someone that "you can earn fortunes at Bitcointalk" and they came here.  ;)

Btw @LoyceV, is that you experimenting something with the forum?  ::) /jk


Title: Re: Three millionth account registered
Post by: LoyceV on January 22, 2021, 09:01:23 AM
Btw @LoyceV, is that you experimenting something with the forum?  ::) /jk
Nope. But thanks for summoning me, I now saw my list of Bitcointalk usernames (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5202231.0) is 3 days behind.


Title: Re: Three millionth account registered
Post by: tranthidung on January 22, 2021, 02:10:11 PM
Can anyone explain such a high activity?

Edited: I think this is a record ... 37,065 (https://btctalk.live/today/?date=2021-01-20) accounts were registered on January 20.

In median of 16 days in January of 2021 (p50 value in the raw result table): there is 1911 new members daily. The max value is 11413.
A new record for daily new users after many months, about 3 times of the past record at 11413.

Reasons: I am thinking of some possible reasons:
  • Bounties: new bounties from shit altcoins. It is the most likely reason as bounties are very easy in rules and accept newbie accounts. I did neigher visit nor follow the bounties board for so long so I don't know what has been happening in the child board recent weeks.
  • Possible checks
    • Checks and compares total posts in bounties past 1 to 4 weeks and previous few months
  • Real new users joined the forum: I don't believe it is the case, especially with such a spike. Honestly, I did not create the account on the forum since the first day I knew it. I only read as a guest.
  • SEO-attacks, again: I don't think it is a reason as recent days, I did not saw shit posts with dozens of hyperlinks like back in December 2020.


Title: Re: Three millionth account registered
Post by: Halab on January 22, 2021, 02:30:07 PM
SEO-attacks, again: I don't think it is a reason as recent days, I did not saw shit posts with dozens of hyperlinks like back in December 2020.

The "attack" is in preparation.

Look at random profiles :
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3060000
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3060000
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3060050
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3060070
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3060170
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3060450
...
All registered in a few seconds/minutes.
Last Active:   Never

And I don't think you can see it, but they're all proxybanned.


Title: Re: Three millionth account registered
Post by: JeromeTash on January 23, 2021, 09:29:20 PM
And I don't think you can see it, but they're all proxybanned.
You are right, I do have a profile it tried to register through Tor browser but on trying to log in, it was proxy banned and there was a message displayed on it directing me to pay some fees in order to use it. it's last active displays as Never


Title: Re: Three millionth account registered
Post by: lovesmayfamilis on January 24, 2021, 04:36:45 AM
At this rate, the number of accounts will grow dramatically every week. Probably the forum likes it since there is such an opportunity to register thousands of accounts for one person. The goals here are different, with the growth of bitcoin, the number of spammers and cheaters will grow. Today I see advertising of various ICO on the bounty boards again. Thus, there will be at least 10 accounts per person. Hence, we can assume the real number of living people who visit the forum every day. And this figure, unfortunately, is very far from 3 million.
Probably it would be possible to restrict registrations, at least using IP.


Title: Re: Three millionth account registered
Post by: FIFA worldcup on January 24, 2021, 05:52:05 AM
At this rate, the number of accounts will grow dramatically every week. Probably the forum likes it since there is such an opportunity to register thousands of accounts for one person. The goals here are different, with the growth of bitcoin, the number of spammers and cheaters will grow. Today I see advertising of various ICO on the bounty boards again. Thus, there will be at least 10 accounts per person. Hence, we can assume the real number of living people who visit the forum every day. And this figure, unfortunately, is very far from 3 million.
Probably it would be possible to restrict registrations, at least using IP.

The total number of accounts registered could have been 4-5 million by now if there were no merit system implemented. Since the introduction of merit system, the account farming is no more profitable and also there is no incentive for making multiple accounts for a single person. It better to make a single account and rank it up, rather than having 10 newbies accounts.


Title: Re: Three millionth account registered
Post by: Daniel91 on January 24, 2021, 09:19:59 AM
At this rate, the number of accounts will grow dramatically every week. Probably the forum likes it since there is such an opportunity to register thousands of accounts for one person. The goals here are different, with the growth of bitcoin, the number of spammers and cheaters will grow. Today I see advertising of various ICO on the bounty boards again. Thus, there will be at least 10 accounts per person. Hence, we can assume the real number of living people who visit the forum every day. And this figure, unfortunately, is very far from 3 million.
Probably it would be possible to restrict registrations, at least using IP.

Admins already restricted registrations with ''evil fees'' for suspicious IP.
I'm not sure the forum really benefits so much from a lot of registered accounts but no one can be prohibited from registering here.
Still, the newbie account doesn't really have much value here and that's a good thing.


Title: Hello World!
Post by: Three Millionth User on January 27, 2021, 10:31:23 PM
Hello World! I am proud to have registered on Bitcointalk and to have received a unique 3 millionth ID. I also received some welcome messages which were very encouraging for me, and I want to say that I will never use my account for shitposting.

I hope that by the time we see the ten millionth registration the forum will not have undergone significant changes and the newcomers of the future will have to deal with the version of the forum that exists in its current form. Although in 10 years the information on Bitcointalk will still be relevant, I really hope that for future newbies we will not have to create simplified guides, despite the fact that each generation becomes dumber. I hope in the future the situation with activity will become clearer, and we will see an influx of fresh blood!

Bitcoin HODL!


Title: Re: Three millionth account registered
Post by: Quickseller on January 27, 2021, 11:17:19 PM
Congrats.
Hello World! I am proud to have registered on Bitcointalk and to have received a unique 3 millionth ID. I also received some welcome messages which were very encouraging for me, and I want to say that I will never use my account for shitposting.

I hope that by the time we see the ten millionth registration the forum will not have undergone significant changes and the newcomers of the future will have to deal with the version of the forum that exists in its current form. Although in 10 years the information on Bitcointalk will still be relevant, I really hope that for future newbies we will not have to create simplified guides, despite the fact that each generation becomes dumber. I hope in the future the situation with activity will become clearer, and we will see an influx of fresh blood!

Bitcoin HODL!

Since you are clearly a brand new forum member, there is a lot for you to learn about. You can start by reviewing the unofficial forum rules (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0).


Title: Re: Hello World!
Post by: tranthidung on January 28, 2021, 03:10:32 AM
Hello World! I am proud to have registered on Bitcointalk and to have received a unique 3 millionth ID.
It is a big coincidence when registered as the 3th millionth user and chose exactly the fitted username for your userID.  ;D

Quote
I also received some welcome messages which were very encouraging for me, and I want to say that I will never use my account for shitposting.
Welcome you to the forum too and here is the Welcome message (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5036308.0)

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I hope that by the time we see the ten millionth registration the forum will not have undergone significant changes and the newcomers of the future will have to deal with the version of the forum that exists in its current form.
  • New forum software (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5036308.0)
    • Github (https://github.com/epochtalk/epochtalk)
    • Epochtalk.org (https://epochtalk.org/)
  • Bitcointalk.org forum's signatures & avatars (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5194176.0) (There are links for new forum softwares, tested forums, Discord, etc.)

Quote
Although in 10 years the information on Bitcointalk will still be relevant, I really hope that for future newbies we will not have to create simplified guides, despite the fact that each generation becomes dumber. I hope in the future the situation with activity will become clearer, and we will see an influx of fresh blood!
As newbies, they need to read rules, search for available topics, answers. Create new guides is not a must practice they should do.
  • [Guide] Searching effectively (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5276341.0)


Title: Re: Hello World!
Post by: icopress on January 28, 2021, 01:10:05 PM
It is a big coincidence when registered as the 3th millionth user and chose exactly the fitted username for your userID.  ;D
You noticed very accurately ... even if we disregard the coincidence with the username, we still cannot deny the fact that this thread was hidden on the second or third page, (unless, of course, no one pointed out this thread to him). I think the owner of this account at least already wrote in this thread.

I really hope that for future newbies we will not have to create simplified guides, despite the fact that each generation becomes dumber.
I would not say that future generations are becoming dumber ... Perhaps they read and communicate less tete-a-tete, but definitely not become dumber. I personally watched a preschool child try to turn on cartoons, thinking that old tube television has a touch panel. Each subsequent generation becomes smarter than the previous one, because they have access to such a huge variety of information that we did not have with you.


Title: Re: Three millionth account registered
Post by: Mistafreeze on January 28, 2021, 08:41:55 PM
Do you want to celebrate this event with us? Join the unofficial Discord server!       (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5247383)



In May 2017, we celebrated the first million users, which is almost 8 years after the launch of the forum. Looking back, some of us may remember the discussion dedicated to the anniversary 2 millionth user who was registered on 03/04/2018. And although it was an alternative account, this does not negate the fact that it was a historical moment when we summed up the results and looked into the future with enthusiasm.

  • At the time of this posting, 2,999,089 profiles have been registered and I expect the Three Millionth User to be registered within 24 hours.

https://i.imgur.com/WcFUgpR.png


This is the anniversary thread and the continuation of the discussion started by Vod...... Are you ready for 2,000,000? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3245195.msg33828303#msg33828303) / Below are a few anniversary quotes ..

Sorry if it sounds VERY ironic that an alt has been the 2000000th account on this platform, but there are quite a few things that I have to tell you all, possibly a new post will be better. I started as a small BTC speculative investor and cared little about the tech, I then became a shitposting Bounty Hunter. But over the months I've come to realize that it's much more than being either of them. I am trying to learn about the technology, not only BTC, but also the alts. I feel that the socio-economic impact/aspect of this revolution will be far more reaching than just the tech and it is yet to come, although I still am a noob and monetize my original account (can't help it, the pay is lucrative); I try to improve my posts and contribute to the community in  the small ways that I can.
Hi guys, I am glad to take the uid #1999999.

This is amazing achievement and speaks volumes about the growing popularity of Bitcoin and crypto.
I am glad I am one of those 3 millions members and I hope I am doing my bit to promote crypto to many others like me.


Title: Re: Hello World!
Post by: LTU_btc on January 28, 2021, 09:28:54 PM
Hello World! I am proud to have registered on Bitcointalk and to have received a unique 3 millionth ID. I also received some welcome messages which were very encouraging for me, and I want to say that I will never use my account for shitposting.

I hope that by the time we see the ten millionth registration the forum will not have undergone significant changes and the newcomers of the future will have to deal with the version of the forum that exists in its current form. Although in 10 years the information on Bitcointalk will still be relevant, I really hope that for future newbies we will not have to create simplified guides, despite the fact that each generation becomes dumber. I hope in the future the situation with activity will become clearer, and we will see an influx of fresh blood!

Bitcoin HODL!
Welcome to the forum. It's nice to see that 3 million UID wasn't made by spam bot or bounty hunter.
By the way, 2 million UID was made by high ranked Bitcointalk member for reasons that I mentioned above
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2000000

Ir would be interesting to know real number of Bitcointalk members, excluding bots and alts. Because large number from these 3 millions hasn't even made single post here.


Title: Re: Three millionth account registered
Post by: acroman08 on January 28, 2021, 11:44:39 PM
--snip
congrats! it is interesting(a little envious to be honest) you the three millionth user already have a custom title. I wonder if it is an inbuilt feature given for whoever gets the unique ID of a millionth or if theymos gave it to you as a reward for being the three millionth user?


Title: Re: Three millionth account registered
Post by: Quickseller on January 29, 2021, 01:01:41 AM

This person has a custom title of "yes really". It makes me wonder if this person is an admin who was able to automatically create this account once UID 2999999 was used. Or if it will be someone who uses a vanity username for an extended period of time, such as scammed-by-nitro with 233 activity, or erwin45hacked (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=398379) (or even  erwin45hackedhacked (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1589956) [lol]).


Title: Re: Three millionth account registered
Post by: icopress on January 29, 2021, 02:31:58 AM
This person has a custom title of "yes really". It makes me wonder if this person is an admin who was able to automatically create this account once UID 2999999 was used.
To be honest, I was also a little surprised when I saw the Custom Title, but it seems to me that the admins have nothing to do with creating this account. Someone just has a good sense of humor.

https://i.imgur.com/EQ7zJU4.png

This is amazing achievement and speaks volumes about the growing popularity of Bitcoin and crypto.
I am glad I am one of those 3 millions members and I hope I am doing my bit to promote crypto to many others like me.
Ir would be interesting to know real number of Bitcointalk members, excluding bots and alts. Because large number from these 3 millions hasn't even made single post here.
This is not entirely true ... in reality, there are 100 times fewer truly active accounts. And if we also exclude bounty hunters from the equation, then even less. While BPIP data shows that there are currently 250,000 active accounts, it is worth considering the fact that these numbers include 100,000 newly registered accounts (literally in 10 days). So the overall situation is pretty sad.


Title: Re: Hello World!
Post by: Lucius on January 30, 2021, 02:26:16 PM
Ir would be interesting to know real number of Bitcointalk members, excluding bots and alts. Because large number from these 3 millions hasn't even made single post here.

What we can find out if we look Active users and top posters on Bitcointalk.org in the past 7 days (https://loyce.club/active/7d.html) that the number of active users in that period is 15207, of which Newbie 3178, and brand new 8611. It is easy to conclude that a fairly small number of old members are active (in total 1341 Senior, Hero and Legendary).

So the overall situation is pretty sad.

I can only tell you that the number of active users was half as low there somewhere during 2019 and early 2020, so this number is not so bad.


Title: Re: Three millionth account registered
Post by: Quickseller on January 30, 2021, 08:03:10 PM
This person has a custom title of "yes really". It makes me wonder if this person is an admin who was able to automatically create this account once UID 2999999 was used.
To be honest, I was also a little surprised when I saw the Custom Title, but it seems to me that the admins have nothing to do with creating this account. Someone just has a good sense of humor.

https://i.imgur.com/EQ7zJU4.png


I don't think there is evidence, or even that there can be evidence UID 3000000 is not an admin, absent an admin or UID 3000000 commenting on the matter. I think it is fair to say whoever is behind the account is not a brand new user.


Title: Re: Hello World!
Post by: macson on February 02, 2021, 03:17:11 PM
Hello World! I am proud to have registered on Bitcointalk and to have received a unique 3 millionth ID. I also received some welcome messages which were very encouraging for me, and I want to say that I will never use my account for shitposting.

I hope that by the time we see the ten millionth registration the forum will not have undergone significant changes and the newcomers of the future will have to deal with the version of the forum that exists in its current form. Although in 10 years the information on Bitcointalk will still be relevant, I really hope that for future newbies we will not have to create simplified guides, despite the fact that each generation becomes dumber. I hope in the future the situation with activity will become clearer, and we will see an influx of fresh blood!

Bitcoin HODL!
wow, i was surprised by your ID and custom title, very beautiful.  i was 2 days late from registering, becoming a member who registered at number 3,000,000 was a big coincidence!


Title: Re: Hello World!
Post by: The Cryptovator on February 05, 2021, 05:47:31 PM
~snip~
Welcome to the forum. I was quite surprised when I see your username on a post and being curious to know more. As a newbie, you choose a username that exactly matching with your UID. It's pretty impossible for a newbie. I am assuming you are from admin/moderators or one of the tech guys like LoyceV. The custom title was more surprising because it's not possible without admin help.

Anyways best of Luck.


Title: Re: Hello World!
Post by: LoyceV on February 05, 2021, 06:07:21 PM
like LoyceV.
It's not me.


Title: Re: Three millionth account registered
Post by: Shuuwa on February 06, 2021, 04:19:16 PM
Whats my number? I just regged. Hello world!


Title: Re: Three millionth account registered
Post by: LTU_btc on February 07, 2021, 12:28:18 AM
Whats my number? I just regged. Hello world!
Your number is 3119374. You can find it by visiting your profile link https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3119374
BTW, I don't know how many users usually sign up on Bitcointalk every month, but almost 120 000 new users in less than month looks quite impressive.


Title: Re: Three millionth account registered
Post by: DireWolfM14 on February 07, 2021, 12:47:06 AM
Since you are clearly a brand new forum member, there is a lot for you to learn about. You can start by reviewing the unofficial forum rules (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.0).

Lol, clearly!   ::)

Almost all newbies clearly make their first posts in Meta, clearly something you know a bit about.  And clearly kind of you to point this clearly new member to the rules, I'm sure all clearly see that is is not subterfuge.  Clearly.


Whats my number? I just regged. Hello world!

No body move,
no body get's hurt,

54, 46,
that's my number
Oyo!


Title: Re: Three millionth account registered
Post by: suchmoon on February 07, 2021, 02:25:08 AM
Pretending you're new is one thing, but this charade of "I know everyone but nobody knows who I am" is getting cringy. The good news is that I don't need to label this as a "fake newbie" - it stands out like a sore thumb already.


Title: Re: Three millionth account registered
Post by: FIFA worldcup on February 07, 2021, 03:50:32 AM
This is not entirely true ... in reality, there are 100 times fewer truly active accounts. And if we also exclude bounty hunters from the equation, then even less. While BPIP data shows that there are currently 250,000 active accounts, it is worth considering the fact that these numbers include 100,000 newly registered accounts (literally in 10 days). So the overall situation is pretty sad.

You cannot exclude the bounty hunters from the active user list as they post on forum and are considered active. It does not matter if they are reporting their bounty or doing normal discussion post. Also i believe this number will increase with time as more people become aware of bitcoin and then bitcointalk.


Title: Re: Three millionth account registered
Post by: iamsheikhadil on February 07, 2021, 04:53:55 AM
At this rate, the number of accounts will grow dramatically every week. Probably the forum likes it since there is such an opportunity to register thousands of accounts for one person. The goals here are different, with the growth of bitcoin, the number of spammers and cheaters will grow. Today I see advertising of various ICO on the bounty boards again. Thus, there will be at least 10 accounts per person. Hence, we can assume the real number of living people who visit the forum every day. And this figure, unfortunately, is very far from 3 million.
Probably it would be possible to restrict registrations, at least using IP.

Well, even if IP restrictions are placed, scammers will just use VPN or other devices. The way to stop the spam is to regulate the bounty section and make certain regulations like the amount of persons who can participate in the campaign, and ranks. Many bounties accept totally new accounts for their campaigns on social media which leads the spammers to create new accounts. If there's a bar placed like "minimum member rank" then it can be stopped to a great extent.


Title: Re: Three millionth account registered
Post by: lovesmayfamilis on February 07, 2021, 11:17:40 AM


Well, even if IP restrictions are placed, scammers will just use VPN or other devices. The way to stop the spam is to regulate the bounty section and make certain regulations like the amount of persons who can participate in the campaign, and ranks. Many bounties accept totally new accounts for their campaigns on social media which leads the spammers to create new accounts. If there's a bar placed like "minimum member rank" then it can be stopped to a great extent.

If the forum had decided to have unique users, namely, would have introduced a ban on the registration of alternative accounts, then it would not have been necessary to identify users only by their IP address.
Already today, many sites and forums use the Fingerprint JS and Browser Fingerprint analytics system. Owners want to know how many first-time visitors they have on their site and how many regular users.
But everything has been discussed many times, and the privileges that are given on this forum, in terms of the ability to have multiple accounts, are not always used in the right way.
Once again, the introduction of the Fingerprint analytics system would instantly weed out all other alternative accounts. And only then it would be possible to have a more or less real number of users.

https://fingerprintjs.com/


Title: Re: Three millionth account registered
Post by: icopress on February 08, 2021, 11:04:58 PM
~
I think you are preaching communism ... Check it out at your leisure [A Cypherpunk's Manifesto (https://www.activism.net/cypherpunk/manifesto.html)] Our community must develop in a natural environment, not in an environment of prohibitions and restrictions. I am sure that Fingerprint JS and Browser Fingerprint or any other similar products will never be implemented in the forum software, (user privacy will be preserved in the form in which it is now as long as a million bitcoins remain inactive). And do not forget that if the administration at the official level really prohibited the registration of alt accounts, you would lose your job.




Title: Re: Three millionth account registered
Post by: Betaj00 on February 11, 2021, 05:18:44 PM
Yes this is really very good news for forum and us. Also this is very positive things of bitcointalk forum. I think this has possible only for bitcointalk Forum’s popularity and only for this reason many people join with bitcointalk forum.           


Title: Re: Three millionth account registered
Post by: FIFA worldcup on February 11, 2021, 07:49:09 PM


Well, even if IP restrictions are placed, scammers will just use VPN or other devices. The way to stop the spam is to regulate the bounty section and make certain regulations like the amount of persons who can participate in the campaign, and ranks. Many bounties accept totally new accounts for their campaigns on social media which leads the spammers to create new accounts. If there's a bar placed like "minimum member rank" then it can be stopped to a great extent.

If the forum had decided to have unique users, namely, would have introduced a ban on the registration of alternative accounts, then it would not have been necessary to identify users only by their IP address.
Already today, many sites and forums use the Fingerprint JS and Browser Fingerprint analytics system. Owners want to know how many first-time visitors they have on their site and how many regular users.
But everything has been discussed many times, and the privileges that are given on this forum, in terms of the ability to have multiple accounts, are not always used in the right way.
Once again, the introduction of the Fingerprint analytics system would instantly weed out all other alternative accounts. And only then it would be possible to have a more or less real number of users.

https://fingerprintjs.com/

Will the use of fingerprint will expose the identity of the people ?  The least thing anyone would want is the KYC on this forum. Perhaps there may be ways to identify alt accounts other than KYC.


Yes this is really very good news for forum and us. Also this is very positive things of bitcointalk forum. I think this has possible only for bitcointalk Forum’s popularity and only for this reason many people join with bitcointalk forum.           

Bitcointalk is the most popular forum and three million accounts is still a small number considering the total population of the world.  8)