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Title: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: manbitcoinlover on October 24, 2021, 07:25:15 PM
What are some sportbooks that will NEVER ask for KYC


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: Eureka_07 on October 24, 2021, 07:32:05 PM
What are some sportbooks that will NEVER ask for KYC
From my base knowledge, most sportsbook will ask for KYC verification depending on player's activity and balance.
But I tried to search for what you're asking here, I found that there are some, but I really am not familiar to them. I'll just drop the link below, and you can background check those that are listed there before continuing.

Here is the link.


I removed the link since there are users that has some issues about it.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: Stalker22 on October 24, 2021, 07:36:23 PM
What are some sportbooks that will NEVER ask for KYC

A similar question was asked recently on this forum, so you can find the answers there:
Sportbook without KYC
 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5365001.0)

Typically, most sports bookies do not require KYC unless you do something wrong or shady, such as suspected cheating or money laundering... But, regardless of KYC, you should always choose gambling websites that have a good reputation.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: tokeweed on October 24, 2021, 09:06:47 PM
Lol it’s impossible to have a ‘no KYC’ book in this kind of environment.  Not with all the shennanigans going on with all the money laundering going through the space.  They will all ask for ID eventually.  The funny thing is there’s a poker site that has never asked for KYC.  Perfect place to launder money via chip dumping.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: Saint-loup on October 24, 2021, 09:19:09 PM
What are some sportbooks that will NEVER ask for KYC
From my base knowledge, most sportsbook will ask for KYC verification depending on player's activity and balance.
But I tried to search for what you're asking here, I found that there are some, but I really am not familiar to them. I'll just drop the link below, and you can background check those that are listed there before continuing.

Here is the link (https://www.nongamstopbets.com/no-verification-betting-sites/).
Where did you find such dubious sportsbooks? On google? Moreover they seem to be fiat sportsbooks and not crypto ones. If you were gambling you would already know well reputed crypto sportsbooks with no KYC like Stake for example. You should increase your knowledge before posting here if you don't want to spam and to mislead legit gamblers.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: Ziskinberg on October 24, 2021, 09:20:58 PM
Lol it’s impossible to have a ‘no KYC’ book in this kind of environment.  Not with all the shennanigans going on with all the money laundering going through the space.  They will all ask for ID eventually.  The funny thing is there’s a poker site that has never asked for KYC.  Perfect place to launder money via chip dumping.
I think it depends on the location where you are living, if the regulation is tight then probably the sportsbook will require you a verification.

I am using different sportsbook and was never ask for a KYC, maybe a simple requirement on information but not on documents to verify the information I put. Sportsbook that I'm using with no KYC based on experience are, sportsbet, bitsler, and nitrogensports.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: nelson4lov on October 24, 2021, 09:23:20 PM
What are some sportbooks that will NEVER ask for KYC

A similar question was asked recently on this forum, so you can find the answers there:
Sportbook without KYC
 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5365001.0)

Typically, most sports bookies do not require KYC unless you do something wrong or shady, such as suspected cheating or money laundering... But, regardless of KYC, you should always choose gambling websites that have a good reputation.


True that. Comparing the two - A sportbook might not have KYC regardless of anything that happens but might end up scamming users vs a sportbook that conducts KYC only when there's a suspicious activity on the account in question. As long as you do everything right, then I don't think this KYC thing would be a matter of concern. Plus, I think the gambling industry has some legality attached to it so there would be KYC at the end of the day.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: Eureka_07 on October 24, 2021, 10:17:17 PM
What are some sportbooks that will NEVER ask for KYC
From my base knowledge, most sportsbook will ask for KYC verification depending on player's activity and balance.
But I tried to search for what you're asking here, I found that there are some, but I really am not familiar to them. I'll just drop the link below, and you can background check those that are listed there before continuing.

Here is the link (https://www.nongamstopbets.com/no-verification-betting-sites/).
Where did you find such dubious sportsbooks? On google? Moreover they seem to be fiat sportsbooks and not crypto ones. If you were gambling you would already know well reputed crypto sportsbooks with no KYC like Stake for example. You should increase your knowledge before posting here if you don't want to spam and to mislead legit gamblers.
Huh?
What are you saying? Hahaha did I mislead him? I just gave some of what I'd found for him. Should I explore my knowledge about gambling? I've been playing for a couple of years, and I'm not just saying anything I don't really know.
Spam? Mislead? Are you seriously saying that?  ::) Before you quote me, pls make you understand what I said correctly. ;)


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: Yogee on October 24, 2021, 10:30:38 PM
Lol it’s impossible to have a ‘no KYC’ book in this kind of environment.  Not with all the shennanigans going on with all the money laundering going through the space.  They will all ask for ID eventually.  The funny thing is there’s a poker site that has never asked for KYC.  Perfect place to launder money via chip dumping.
I think it depends on the location where you are living, if the regulation is tight then probably the sportsbook will require you a verification.

I am using different sportsbook and was never ask for a KYC, maybe a simple requirement on information but not on documents to verify the information I put. Sportsbook that I'm using with no KYC based on experience are, sportsbet, bitsler, and nitrogensports.
Isn't there a clause somewhere in their TOS that they will ask for more personal information whenever they think it's a must? Suspicions on unusual activities and high amount of withdrawal are usually among those cases. I think that's  part of the reason why tokeweed said "eventually". Those bookies may not be asking you now but nothing is stopping them from doing so in the future.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: Saint-loup on October 24, 2021, 10:37:43 PM
What are some sportbooks that will NEVER ask for KYC
From my base knowledge, most sportsbook will ask for KYC verification depending on player's activity and balance.
But I tried to search for what you're asking here, I found that there are some, but I really am not familiar to them. I'll just drop the link below, and you can background check those that are listed there before continuing.

Here is the link (https://www.nongamstopbets.com/no-verification-betting-sites/).
Where did you find such dubious sportsbooks? On google? Moreover they seem to be fiat sportsbooks and not crypto ones. If you were gambling you would already know well reputed crypto sportsbooks with no KYC like Stake for example. You should increase your knowledge before posting here if you don't want to spam and to mislead legit gamblers.
Huh?
What are you saying? Hahaha did I mislead him? I just gave some of what I'd found for him. Should I explore my knowledge about gambling? I've been playing for a couple of years, and I'm not just saying anything I don't really know.
Spam? Mislead? Are you seriously saying that?  ::) Before you quote me, pls make you understand what I said correctly. ;)
You didn't reply to my question, where did you find this page? Those so called sportsbooks are unknown here and highly dubious, moreover I don't understand why you are posting links of fiat sportsbooks here. You're obviously a noob in gambling and you should refrain from posting random content without knowing what it is and spamming.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: Eureka_07 on October 24, 2021, 11:03:36 PM
What are some sportbooks that will NEVER ask for KYC
From my base knowledge, most sportsbook will ask for KYC verification depending on player's activity and balance.
But I tried to search for what you're asking here, I found that there are some, but I really am not familiar to them. I'll just drop the link below, and you can background check those that are listed there before continuing.

Here is the link (https://www.nongamstopbets.com/no-verification-betting-sites/).
Where did you find such dubious sportsbooks? On google? Moreover they seem to be fiat sportsbooks and not crypto ones. If you were gambling you would already know well reputed crypto sportsbooks with no KYC like Stake for example. You should increase your knowledge before posting here if you don't want to spam and to mislead legit gamblers.
Huh?
What are you saying? Hahaha did I mislead him? I just gave some of what I'd found for him. Should I explore my knowledge about gambling? I've been playing for a couple of years, and I'm not just saying anything I don't really know.
Spam? Mislead? Are you seriously saying that?  ::) Before you quote me, pls make you understand what I said correctly. ;)
You didn't reply to my question, where did you find this page? Those so called sportsbooks are unknown here and highly dubious, moreover I don't understand why you are posting links of fiat sportsbooks here. You're obviously a noob in gambling and you should refrain from posting random content without knowing what it is and spamming.
Cant you read the link? Did you even clicked it? Obviously the website of that link is a review website for casinos.
He doesn't said that he want a crypto casino nor a fiat one :)
You're a war freak who just quotes and reply without fully understanding what is being said.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: TimeTeller on October 24, 2021, 11:09:06 PM
What are some sportbooks that will NEVER ask for KYC

A similar question was asked recently on this forum, so you can find the answers there:
Sportbook without KYC
 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5365001.0)

Typically, most sports bookies do not require KYC unless you do something wrong or shady, such as suspected cheating or money laundering... But, regardless of KYC, you should always choose gambling websites that have a good reputation.


True that. Comparing the two - A sportbook might not have KYC regardless of anything that happens but might end up scamming users vs a sportbook that conducts KYC only when there's a suspicious activity on the account in question. As long as you do everything right, then I don't think this KYC thing would be a matter of concern. Plus, I think the gambling industry has some legality attached to it so there would be KYC at the end of the day.

This is why it is always in your best interest to play on a reputable casino, whether it has KYC or not.
Because let's say, the casino will never ask KYC but you always have the problem of withdrawing your funds.
So are you going to be playing on the site with some issues like withdrawal?
Also, if you are a high roller, expect that even casino without strict requirement of KYC may possibly ask KYC from you.
So don't look for sportsbooks without KYC only, but also look for their reputation in the industry.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: blockman on October 24, 2021, 11:26:25 PM
Never? Most sportsbooks as said will ask for your KYC to verify your account and if you've been playing with them all along and they've found something wrong with your account and activity. But as long as you've got a clear account to them, they won't ask you KYC.
That's if you're thinking about them never going to ask you for it, then you should be fine at the beginning and if there's nothing wrong that you've done, they won't ask you to do so.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: Stalker22 on October 24, 2021, 11:35:13 PM
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He doesn't said that he want a crypto casino nor a fiat one :)

Well, this is a cryptocurrency related forum after all, so it goes without saying that we discuss cryptocurrency related gambling.  ;)

By the way, I didn't check your link, so I can't comment on it.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: Reid on October 24, 2021, 11:50:53 PM
I don't remember filling up any KYC at Sportsbet.io before. If they have the same rules then yes, they are one on my list.
But there's a catch, you cannot bet for high amounts although it should be enough if you are an average gambler. They just need your e-mail and you can even use a dummy and go for 2FA for security purposes.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: Saint-loup on October 24, 2021, 11:56:22 PM
What are some sportbooks that will NEVER ask for KYC
From my base knowledge, most sportsbook will ask for KYC verification depending on player's activity and balance.
But I tried to search for what you're asking here, I found that there are some, but I really am not familiar to them. I'll just drop the link below, and you can background check those that are listed there before continuing.

Here is the link (https://www.nongamstopbets.com/no-verification-betting-sites/).
Where did you find such dubious sportsbooks? On google? Moreover they seem to be fiat sportsbooks and not crypto ones. If you were gambling you would already know well reputed crypto sportsbooks with no KYC like Stake for example. You should increase your knowledge before posting here if you don't want to spam and to mislead legit gamblers.
Huh?
What are you saying? Hahaha did I mislead him? I just gave some of what I'd found for him. Should I explore my knowledge about gambling? I've been playing for a couple of years, and I'm not just saying anything I don't really know.
Spam? Mislead? Are you seriously saying that?  ::) Before you quote me, pls make you understand what I said correctly. ;)
You didn't reply to my question, where did you find this page? Those so called sportsbooks are unknown here and highly dubious, moreover I don't understand why you are posting links of fiat sportsbooks here. You're obviously a noob in gambling and you should refrain from posting random content without knowing what it is and spamming.
Cant you read the link? Did you even clicked it? Obviously the website of that link is a review website for casinos.
He doesn't said that he want a crypto casino nor a fiat one :)
You're a war freak who just quotes and reply without fully understanding what is being said.
You are trying to avoid my question about the origin of your link and misleading people by spreading fake news. Those reviews are just fake, they are intended to fool people with good ratings and comments about some scammy platforms.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: ralle14 on October 25, 2021, 12:34:45 AM
Like what tokeweed said there's no such thing as a sportsbook that won't ask for KYC, at some point they will ask for KYC depending on their set of rules since they change these rules from time to time.

Sportsbet, Stake, and Nitrogensports are some of the sportsbooks i've used for quite some time and they haven't asked for KYC. I also suggest checking out these reviews from Bitedge (https://bitedge.com/crypto-sportsbook-reviews/) if you want to check other crypto sportsbooks.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: Wexnident on October 25, 2021, 04:59:22 AM
Nitrogensports and stake didn't ask for KYC when I used them back then afaik, so you can try them out. Though I think that's only in the beginning and you'd still inevitably end up with trying to comply with their requirements though, just like any other sportsbook out there. It does give you freedom early on though, so I guess if you're only trying to play for a bit, those could work. I'd rather avoid those that have completely no KYC tbh, since that's mostly a red flag in terms of the trustworthiness of that sportsbook.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: danherbias07 on October 25, 2021, 05:40:01 AM
Try Stake.com. Just click my signature and see for yourself. Just an e-mail address is enough and they will let you gamble with different sports with different features. From over and under score to player props and multi bets.
Here is the link (https://www.nongamstopbets.com/no-verification-betting-sites/).
Where did you find such dubious sportsbooks? On google? Moreover they seem to be fiat sportsbooks and not crypto ones. If you were gambling you would already know well reputed crypto sportsbooks with no KYC like Stake for example. You should increase your knowledge before posting here if you don't want to spam and to mislead legit gamblers.
Sorry Eureka_07, I agree with Saint-loup as I checked the link. Those are not looking good websites that was suggested by the article.
I don't know how you end up with such article but I think it's because of a wrong google search. Might as well just take it down or you might harm other gambler that would check that link.
He doesn't said that he want a crypto casino nor a fiat one :)
Nope, but he opened a thread in a cryptocurrency forum so if my logic is right there should be an option of cryptocurrencies.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: goinmerry on October 25, 2021, 05:41:18 AM
What are some sportbooks that will NEVER ask for KYC

There's no accurate answer for that. In the first place, how can we know if such terms won't be applied in the future? We don't have crystal balls to predict the future. We also don't know the future action of the site owners. Only them know the answer here but honestly speaking, even asking them now, they are also not sure as it will depend on a given situation.

For now, just enjoy some sportsbook that is not mandatory requiring a KYC. There are lots of sites that still don't have that requirement. That's what matters for now because we don't know if centralization will also slowly hit the crypto-gambling sites in the future.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: RealMalatesta on October 25, 2021, 08:20:50 AM
What are some sportbooks that will NEVER ask for KYC
You cannot get such a guarantee from a licenced gambling house as they need to bind along with all government and regulations then when government insist for new strict norms on KYC then any casino which promised you for never asking may chance their stand.

As of now, the only house which is not asking me any of KYC is, freebitco.in. They are only crypto based casino hence they never need any licence which again lead them not to insist on any KYC. They have enough coverage on various sports so they might be the end of your search.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: STT on October 25, 2021, 10:07:00 AM
Its probably related to volume, if you want a guarantee I'm not sure but alot of places wont bother you if just casually betting.   Just avoid stacking up large amounts even if you bet alot, withdraw your winnings so you can limit your risk in this regard if you feel its a problem to you.   You can always just email them, a general question that can be answered by their support seems reasonable to ask and they'll give assurance either way I guess.  Every site has to comply if people are upto no good though, I dont think anywhere will put themselves in harms way of big trouble vs laws etc.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: dimonstration on October 25, 2021, 10:28:29 AM
What are some sportbooks that will NEVER ask for KYC
There is a like topic from 2019 which many mention websites. You can refer https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5195221.0 and check whether their insights were still active. But at times like these were crypto is developing and mny countries and government tighthens the security for gambling transaction and in crypto KYC is needed for them to continue their operations. KYC is fine as long as the casino and website were joining and putting our money in have a good reputation.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: Slow death on October 25, 2021, 10:48:31 AM
What are some sportbooks that will NEVER ask for KYC

man my advice Is this:

1 - when you decide to create an account in a casino? be prepared to give true information and eventually KYC if they ask, this is something you should take into account when creating an account at any casino.

2 - All governments are doing tough checks on money laundering laws, so forget that there will be any casino that won't ask for KYC, and that's not just with casinos, exchanges are also in the same crosshairs of governments


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: madnessteat on October 25, 2021, 11:42:02 AM
^

I absolutely agree with you. If the platform did not require its users to pass KYC in the past it does not mean that it will not require tomorrow to confirm your identity and indicate the source of income and confirm it with documents. You need to be prepared for that and not keep funds on the platforms that you are afraid of losing.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: Doell on October 25, 2021, 01:15:51 PM
why kyc need possible to keep your account safe too and for convenience also when you get huge win
stake doesn't ask for kyc but a few months ago I also don't know exactly forgot there is a kyc option on the stake platform maybe for prevention of money laundering or other fraudulent by user ,fill in your data as honestly as possible then if you play fair and don't go wrong in the future everything will be fine


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: harizen on October 25, 2021, 10:00:04 PM
What are some sportbooks that will NEVER ask for KYC

We will never know if KYC won't be asked in the future. You have to be ready on that the same way as to how popular crypto-trading platforms make KYC as mandated. I'm not sure when but we are not talking about KYC will be imposed on gambling sites just quick.

On the current bookie you are betting on, or preferred in the future, just continue using them while KYC is not imposed. For sure it will count several years before KYC will start to impose on gambling sites.

Don't think about that "for now".


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: agustina2 on October 25, 2021, 10:36:31 PM
What are some sportbooks that will NEVER ask for KYC

Not popular sites may be the ones that we will never ask KYC for their users. Reputable and popular ones will make the first move if ever they will be pressured by the government. But the risk is, unpopular sites are not trustworthy.

There are lots of popular gambling sites that still don't ask for KYC. Stick with them for now and if ever KYC will be asked, then just stop using those sportsbooks.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: bitgolden on October 25, 2021, 10:53:46 PM
We will never know if KYC won't be asked in the future. You have to be ready on that the same way as to how popular crypto-trading platforms make KYC as mandated.
That must be the reality; we have experienced the same with gambling houses and with crypto exchanges as well. When government mandate about KYC for all gambling houses, you need to comply with them otherwise your account will get locked until you clear KYC. If any gambler is ready to move on if KYC become mandatory then they may go with right now KYC-free casinos. Or else, they must need to be prepared to clear KYC requirements so that continuing gambling might be possible.

As of now, the only house which is not asking me any of KYC is, freebitco.in. They are only crypto based casino hence they never need any licence which again lead them not to insist on any KYC.
Most reputed casinos in this forum are not asking KYC from the beginning but if you try to abuse their bonus or giveaway system then they will mandate KYC to continue with them.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: CaVO32 on October 25, 2021, 11:04:15 PM
We will never know if KYC won't be asked in the future. You have to be ready on that the same way as to how popular crypto-trading platforms make KYC as mandated.
That must be the reality; we have experienced the same with gambling houses and with crypto exchanges as well. When government mandate about KYC for all gambling houses, you need to comply with them otherwise your account will get locked until you clear KYC. If any gambler is ready to move on if KYC become mandatory then they may go with right now KYC-free casinos. Or else, they must need to be prepared to clear KYC requirements so that continuing gambling might be possible.

As of now, the only house which is not asking me any of KYC is, freebitco.in. They are only crypto based casino hence they never need any licence which again lead them not to insist on any KYC.
Most reputed casinos in this forum are not asking KYC from the beginning but if you try to abuse their bonus or giveaway system then they will mandate KYC to continue with them.

I don't think it is safe to say that casinos will never ask KYC. Maybe, this will be true to substandard casinos but the likelihood that you will get screwed is high by making excuses not to send your withdrawal. So for me, as long as you are keeping with the ToS of the site, and it is reputable, you have no worry about KYC when it comes to known reputable casinos. I don't think they will tarnish their reputation for screwing their players, especially if you are talking about small amount of money involved.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: Naficopa on October 25, 2021, 11:08:21 PM
What are some sportbooks that will NEVER ask for KYC

As far as I know, 1xBit.com has never asked for KYC verification. Official information on about verification shows that the player may be asked for verification only when these are very large amounts and there is a suspicion that it may be money laundering.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: agustina2 on October 25, 2021, 11:15:34 PM
What are some sportbooks that will NEVER ask for KYC

As far as I know, 1xBit.com has never asked for KYC verification. Official information on about verification shows that the player may be asked for verification only when these are very large amounts and there is a suspicion that it may be money laundering.

For now, yes. But as a licensed site (not sure if they are licensed), they are not prone to what the government will ask them to for their users in the future. There are several gambling sites that still don't ask for KYC up to now but we can't guarantee the same terms in the future.

It's been a discussion before that what if KYC will now be asked on our favorite gambling site. Most users choose not to use the site anymore and those loyal ones will comply with KYC procedure.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: Saint-loup on October 25, 2021, 11:29:47 PM
2 - All governments are doing tough checks on money laundering laws, so forget that there will be any casino that won't ask for KYC, and that's not just with casinos, exchanges are also in the same crosshairs of governments
I disagree with that because most of casinos and sportsbooks don't offer crypto exchange services, officially at least. Then they are not subject to the same laws. Buying goods and services with cryptos without doing KYC is legal in most of countries then we shouldn't need to do KYC to use casinos. In addition casinos/sportsbooks are mostly established offshore unlike big exchanges.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: chaser15 on October 25, 2021, 11:36:19 PM
2 - All governments are doing tough checks on money laundering laws, so forget that there will be any casino that won't ask for KYC, and that's not just with casinos, exchanges are also in the same crosshairs of governments
I disagree with that because most of casinos and sportsbooks don't offer crypto exchange services, officially at least. Then they are not subject to the same laws. Buying goods and services with cryptos without doing KYC is legal in most of countries then we shouldn't need to do KYC to use casinos. In addition casinos/sportsbooks are mostly established offshore unlike big exchanges.

You are correct that crypto gambling sites don't offer the same service as exchange then why are other gambling sites now asking KYC for some exceptional reason like big winnings? There are lots of issues before that someone got to win big but gambling sites hold that withdrawal and ask for KYC. Why KYC should have been a part before that withdrawals be allowed. Gambling sites can easily verify if the winnings got in a legit way. No need for KYC.

It now came to a conclusion that soon we will now see gambling sites asking for KYC. I hope it won't happen.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: Naficopa on October 25, 2021, 11:40:56 PM
What are some sportbooks that will NEVER ask for KYC

As far as I know, 1xBit.com has never asked for KYC verification. Official information on about verification shows that the player may be asked for verification only when these are very large amounts and there is a suspicion that it may be money laundering.

For now, yes. But as a licensed site (not sure if they are licensed), they are not prone to what the government will ask them to for their users in the future. There are several gambling sites that still don't ask for KYC up to now but we can't guarantee the same terms in the future.

It's been a discussion before that what if KYC will now be asked on our favorite gambling site. Most users choose not to use the site anymore and those loyal ones will comply with KYC procedure.

I think sooner or later all licensed casinos and bookmakers will have to do the mandatory KYC verification. This is what governments in all countries are going for. After all, everyone knows how much money is in the gambling industry, so everyone wants a piece of that cake for themselves.
1xbit claims that their guiding principle is anonymity, so it looks like they will want it to stay that way as long as possible.
Anyway, probably soon without verification we will be able to play only in casinos and bookmakers that operate without a license.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: chaser15 on October 25, 2021, 11:56:01 PM
What are some sportbooks that will NEVER ask for KYC
You cannot get such a guarantee from a licenced gambling house as they need to bind along with all government and regulations then when government insist for new strict norms on KYC then any casino which promised you for never asking may chance their stand.

As of now, the only house which is not asking me any of KYC is, freebitco.in. They are only crypto based casino hence they never need any licence which again lead them not to insist on any KYC. They have enough coverage on various sports so they might be the end of your search.

I agree. There's no guarantee that gambling sites that don't ask for KYC today will be the same later on.

Regulations on crypto are now being watched by the government. Even money laundering is being used more in fiat transactions, crypto is one of the best and effective for those people to do such acts. License provider under a certain country's jurisdiction will be forced to ask crypto gambling sites under them to make KYC a necessary requirements.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: Reid on October 26, 2021, 04:29:51 AM
1 - when you decide to create an account in a casino? be prepared to give true information and eventually KYC if they ask, this is something you should take into account when creating an account at any casino.

2 - All governments are doing tough checks on money laundering laws, so forget that there will be any casino that won't ask for KYC, and that's not just with casinos, exchanges are also in the same crosshairs of governments
And it better be worth the KYC that you will provide.
Look for the most trusted sports gambling with cryptocurrencies as an option to bet. Less risk for the information to be leaked in other platforms that may be copied by scammers and hackers. If it's too fragile then better ask the support first on where they will be keeping all those details that you provided.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: magneto on October 26, 2021, 08:13:00 AM
What are some sportbooks that will NEVER ask for KYC

You simply can't find one.

You can try use Stake and Nitrogenbet who have traditionally never asked for KYC, but that is definitely not a guarantee that they won't in the future as it is embedding in their T&Cs that they will be able to ask for KYC as they wish.

At the end of the day there is going to be a degree of trust necessary when you play on these sites.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: michellee on October 26, 2021, 02:52:39 PM
If you do not want to do KYC in gambling, then do not gamble because someday, crypto gamblers can have KYC on most websites because the government wants to watch people who are often playing gambling. Maybe to prevent KYC, you can deposit and withdraw not too big money as some gambling sites will not ask for KYC if their members do not break their minimum withdrawal amount. But I guess that will not be easy as when we are playing gambling and winning for some money, we will still play more games to earn more money.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: fiulpro on October 26, 2021, 02:58:54 PM
What are some sportbooks that will NEVER ask for KYC

People mentioned already a couple of places that you can look out for but I do think that you realize the importance of KYC in sports books, there are some countries which would not let them function properly if they did not do that. Plus they are taking bets from people they do not know about it would not only be safer but it would also be more legit to go for the one which uses KYC. Which country are you talking about?

Sports books are different from gambling sites, plus rules and regulations are different as well. Try some gambling sites then, but do read their reviews first don't just jump in a scam.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: bitgolden on October 26, 2021, 03:14:41 PM
it better be worth the KYC that you will provide.
But, that worthiness is subjective per individuals. Most bitcoiners here value their privacy more than anything else hence I am not surprised on seeing what OP is looking for. I believe there would be some gambling house will available for us without the need of KYC so we need to make use of them until they ask for documents and need to switch over to another highly reviewed place to enjoy betting.

I mean we cannot expect any house to remain not seeking KYC forever but stop using at some point and getting into new place must be the only solution I could suggest to OP rather trying to convince them to go for submitting their documents.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: Cling18 on October 26, 2021, 04:07:41 PM
There are things that Sportsbook would consider before asking you for KYC. One factor is your location, your activities, and your withdrawal amount. They wouldn't ask you to submit KYC for any further reason. They're actually doing it for security purposes and not to restrict things for their own benefit.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: madnessteat on October 26, 2021, 07:11:15 PM
^

If Sportsbook is under the jurisdiction of a country that has anti-money laundering, anti-terrorist financing and tax evasion practices, then the platform can require all of its users to pass a KYC regardless of the factors you listed!!!


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: darewaller on October 26, 2021, 07:40:39 PM
What are some sportbooks that will NEVER ask for KYC
The problem with sportsbook is that there are multiple ways players can cheat them and hence at times almost every sportsbook will enforce one of the two:

1- Limitation on account, which means you cannot bet significant amounts. It can happen for many reasons and they can limit you if you are simply winning too much consistently.

2- KYC is another way of restricting you and making sure you are afraid of cheating the sportsbook knowing they can report you to the local authorities.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: perfect999 on October 26, 2021, 08:38:32 PM
If Sportsbook is under the jurisdiction of a country that has anti-money laundering, anti-terrorist financing and tax evasion practices, then the platform can require all of its users to pass a KYC regardless of the factors you listed!!!
You are right but as long as the funds are clean and you are not involved in any illegal means then you should never have any problems with them. I am betting at stake and sportsbet for a long time now and never had any problems apart from some wrong settlements and minor issues which are then looked after by the support teams.

1xbet (scam) has been known to cheat players and that is where you need to be careful. If you are gambling at a fair site you should be good.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: Fortify on October 26, 2021, 08:39:11 PM
What are some sportbooks that will NEVER ask for KYC

It's really impossible to trust that any site will abide by this in future. I've seen many smaller sites make this claim in the past and eventually they have all switched over to KYC. The simple fact of the matter is they must do it if they want to survive in the long run. They are going to have fiat currency costs (staff, property, software licensing) involved and the servers that they run on will most likely be located in a country like the US or Europe for stability. That means they will be vulnerable to pressure from the authorities there. If they don't use certain services like DDOS protection (exposing the owners) then they will become vulnerable to perpetual attacks. They will most likely need third party merchant banking services to validate any profits extracted from the business, who would expect to know the source of all funds. All of these things combine to make collecting documentation almost essential once you start making any sort of profit or reach certain scales.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: michellee on October 27, 2021, 01:58:52 AM
There are things that Sportsbook would consider before asking you for KYC. One factor is your location, your activities, and your withdrawal amount. They wouldn't ask you to submit KYC for any further reason. They're actually doing it for security purposes and not to restrict things for their own benefit.
The important thing is you do not have to break their minimum withdrawal amount so you do not have to do KYC. I think some Sportbook allows you to play without doing KYC, which is okay for you. So we take our responsibility and do not try to break their rules. Otherwise, we will have to do KYC that you do not want to fill. If the KYC is only for sending your name, telephone, or address, that is no problem, but if they need more than that, I think we have to choose to use them still to gamble or search for the other Sportbook.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: tygeade on October 27, 2021, 04:16:56 AM
KYC is another way of restricting you and making sure you are afraid of cheating the sportsbook knowing they can report you to the local authorities.
This must be a valid reasoning, never got chances to think this way. I am also always looking for no KYC casinos but not because of afraid about the reason you have mentioned here but to ensure without having any problem in my gambling activities. I am not sure about enforcing KYC is how much helpful for gambling houses but from a gamblers' perspective it is really frustrating.

What are some sportbooks that will NEVER ask for KYC
To ensure no KYC always then you need to check for the registration details of a casino as only where a casino got registered must influence their stand on KYC requirements. If their government never bother on collecting details then I guess a casino may remain no KYC until government change their stand.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: iv4n on October 27, 2021, 06:54:51 AM
What are some sportbooks that will NEVER ask for KYC
The problem with sportsbook is that there are multiple ways players can cheat them and hence at times almost every sportsbook will enforce one of the two:

1- Limitation on account, which means you cannot bet significant amounts. It can happen for many reasons and they can limit you if you are simply winning too much consistently.

2- KYC is another way of restricting you and making sure you are afraid of cheating the sportsbook knowing they can report you to the local authorities.

Well, the problem appears when people try to cheat! As I wrote in some of my previous posts, currently I am betting on Stake and Betfury, only email address and password, of course, with authenticator for safety... without KYC! I don't have problems with deposits and withdrawals! I never had any serious problems with crypto casinos, but I never tried to cheat them! I am not a whale, so everything up to $1k is working smoothly... I am saying that because we all know for complaints of some whales about crypto sports books!


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: Natalim on October 27, 2021, 07:19:49 AM
What are some sportbooks that will NEVER ask for KYC
The problem with sportsbook is that there are multiple ways players can cheat them and hence at times almost every sportsbook will enforce one of the two:

1- Limitation on account, which means you cannot bet significant amounts. It can happen for many reasons and they can limit you if you are simply winning too much consistently.

2- KYC is another way of restricting you and making sure you are afraid of cheating the sportsbook knowing they can report you to the local authorities.

Well, the problem appears when people try to cheat! As I wrote in some of my previous posts, currently I am betting on Stake and Betfury, only email address and password, of course, with authenticator for safety... without KYC! I don't have problems with deposits and withdrawals! I never had any serious problems with crypto casinos, but I never tried to cheat them! I am not a whale, so everything up to $1k is working smoothly... I am saying that because we all know for complaints of some whales about crypto sports books!

Betting sites are not afraid that bettors will cheat, they are confident to operate which means they have a strong internal control to prevent or detect gamblers who are cheating. I think most of the concerns I read in the gambling community are the gambling sites cheating the gamblers, not the other way around, so that's not the reason why KYC is required, it's only required due to regulatory compulsory requirements to the operators.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: AicecreaME on October 27, 2021, 08:11:32 AM
What are some sportbooks that will NEVER ask for KYC

There are numerous websites that don't ask for KYC but make sure to check out their background first before deciding to bet. Some of the online betting sites that I know that doesn't require any verification are Rolleto and Sportsbetting sportsbook. You can check on the Internet about the additional information to the aforementioned sportsbook to see it for yourself if you can trust them.

I suggest, aside from finding a "No KYC" website, you should also look for a reputable and trusted sportsbook that could guarantee you assurance of your money. Most especially when you are going to withdraw your prizes, it's much better to be in a site that has been known to take good care of their players and not just only after the profits. You see, betting sites are requiring KYC for a reason and one of the reasons would be to protect both parties and to make sure that there is no law that is being violated, since some uses the platform to do illegal activities. However, if you are uncomfortable with that, you can always opt to find another one that don't require such. Just thoroughly do a history check and gather all the reviews about them.

Be wary and updated also about their terms and conditions because mostly it changes without prior notice. So check it from time to time because it is possible that they won't ask for verification for now, but soon after they will.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: paxmao on October 27, 2021, 08:43:49 AM
I would suspect any book that does not really as you a few questions, since something that sit outside regulations means that other legal matters, such as paying you or letting you withdraw money may also be taken as a ad-hoc rather than something you can take for granted. I am of course speaking about the money laundering regulations and such. Only a book that has been around for years could do the trick by replacing guarantees with reputation.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: Vaculin on October 27, 2021, 11:23:54 AM
I would suspect any book that does not really as you a few questions, since something that sit outside regulations means that other legal matters, such as paying you or letting you withdraw money may also be taken as a ad-hoc rather than something you can take for granted. I am of course speaking about the money laundering regulations and such. Only a book that has been around for years could do the trick by replacing guarantees with reputation.
Crypto gambling should be different from fiat gambling, and that difference is the advantage of crypto gambling as you can gamble anonymously. If you can trade with an exchange with no KYC or with just an email only and a little information, why it's not possible in a gambling platform?


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: madnessteat on October 27, 2021, 03:44:35 PM
If Sportsbook is under the jurisdiction of a country that has anti-money laundering, anti-terrorist financing and tax evasion practices, then the platform can require all of its users to pass a KYC regardless of the factors you listed!!!
You are right but as long as the funds are clean and you are not involved in any illegal means then you should never have any problems with them. I am betting at stake and sportsbet for a long time now and never had any problems apart from some wrong settlements and minor issues which are then looked after by the support teams.

1xbet (scam) has been known to cheat players and that is where you need to be careful. If you are gambling at a fair site you should be good.

If you know that your funds have a dirty history you yourself will not use them on Sportsbooks because the chance of losing them is very high.

If you know that your funds are clean, there is no reason to expect that you will not be required to go through KYC to prove their origin. Fraud issues are a different story.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: KTChampions on October 27, 2021, 04:12:25 PM
Well, the problem appears when people try to cheat! As I wrote in some of my previous posts, currently I am betting on Stake and Betfury, only email address and password, of course, with authenticator for safety... without KYC! I don't have problems with deposits and withdrawals! I never had any serious problems with crypto casinos, but I never tried to cheat them! I am not a whale, so everything up to $1k is working smoothly... I am saying that because we all know for complaints of some whales about crypto sports books!

Wondering how a player can cheat? All I can come up is multi-accounts for bonus hunting, but this is hardly the case for most ordinary players. And you correctly noted that there may be other conditions for whale players - hardly any bookmaker will like a player who makes big bets and wins. It is very important how they behave in such a situation.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: iv4n on October 27, 2021, 08:10:52 PM
Well, the problem appears when people try to cheat! As I wrote in some of my previous posts, currently I am betting on Stake and Betfury, only email address and password, of course, with authenticator for safety... without KYC! I don't have problems with deposits and withdrawals! I never had any serious problems with crypto casinos, but I never tried to cheat them! I am not a whale, so everything up to $1k is working smoothly... I am saying that because we all know for complaints of some whales about crypto sports books!

Wondering how a player can cheat? All I can come up is multi-accounts for bonus hunting, but this is hardly the case for most ordinary players. And you correctly noted that there may be other conditions for whale players - hardly any bookmaker will like a player who makes big bets and wins. It is very important how they behave in such a situation.

I wonder the same thing?! All I know I picked up from reading stuff across the internet, and mostly it's connected with money laundering, abusing bonuses and promotions... when you get into reading about this stuff you can find many crazy things! I can't even claim that half of that is true!

Ordinary player, I include myself in that group, will just go along with the rules of the house! Of course, if we are comfortable with those rules, if not we will look for another place!

I don't like KYC, I done it many times and I will probably do it here and there again, but I will try to avoid it as much as I can! Exchange or a casino, it doesn't matter, when KYC becomes mandatory I already have a replacement!


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: Silberman on October 27, 2021, 10:21:02 PM
What are some sportbooks that will NEVER ask for KYC
That is difficult, I do not think there is one sport book which has such a hard stance on something like this, there are many reputable sport books which will not ask that information on registration or if your account shows no suspicious signs, however there are two circumstances in which you can be sure you will be hit with a KYC request, the first one is if the sport book realizes there is something wrong with your account, and the second instance is if you happen to win a lot of money in the sport book, so as long as this does not apply to you most likely you will be able to keep playing without going through KYC.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: KTChampions on October 28, 2021, 02:36:51 PM
Wondering how a player can cheat? All I can come up is multi-accounts for bonus hunting, but this is hardly the case for most ordinary players. And you correctly noted that there may be other conditions for whale players - hardly any bookmaker will like a player who makes big bets and wins. It is very important how they behave in such a situation.

I wonder the same thing?! All I know I picked up from reading stuff across the internet, and mostly it's connected with money laundering, abusing bonuses and promotions... when you get into reading about this stuff you can find many crazy things! I can't even claim that half of that is true!

Ordinary player, I include myself in that group, will just go along with the rules of the house! Of course, if we are comfortable with those rules, if not we will look for another place!

I don't like KYC, I done it many times and I will probably do it here and there again, but I will try to avoid it as much as I can! Exchange or a casino, it doesn't matter, when KYC becomes mandatory I already have a replacement!

I think that most of these stories about successful gamblers who beat casinos are written by the casinos themselves (by the way, as well as various winning strategies)  ;D All this is done for the purpose of advertising and to exploit the feeling of greed in people to lure them into this area. I do not welcome this, gambling should be entertainment, not a way to make money.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: Kasabus on October 28, 2021, 02:53:46 PM
Wondering how a player can cheat? All I can come up is multi-accounts for bonus hunting, but this is hardly the case for most ordinary players. And you correctly noted that there may be other conditions for whale players - hardly any bookmaker will like a player who makes big bets and wins. It is very important how they behave in such a situation.

I wonder the same thing?! All I know I picked up from reading stuff across the internet, and mostly it's connected with money laundering, abusing bonuses and promotions... when you get into reading about this stuff you can find many crazy things! I can't even claim that half of that is true!

Ordinary player, I include myself in that group, will just go along with the rules of the house! Of course, if we are comfortable with those rules, if not we will look for another place!

I don't like KYC, I done it many times and I will probably do it here and there again, but I will try to avoid it as much as I can! Exchange or a casino, it doesn't matter, when KYC becomes mandatory I already have a replacement!

I think that most of these stories about successful gamblers who beat casinos are written by the casinos themselves (by the way, as well as various winning strategies)  ;D All this is done for the purpose of advertising and to exploit the feeling of greed in people to lure them into this area. I do not welcome this, gambling should be entertainment, not a way to make money.

Nice theory because no one would appear to the public that they are really making money in sports if they don't have another agenda or if they are not paid. They say that you cannot beat a casino, but in sports betting, you don't beat the casino as they only facilitate bets, you beat your fellow sports bettors if you are a profitable gambler.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: Desmong on October 28, 2021, 03:46:03 PM
If Sportsbook is under the jurisdiction of a country that has anti-money laundering, anti-terrorist financing and tax evasion practices, then the platform can require all of its users to pass a KYC regardless of the factors you listed!!!
You are right but as long as the funds are clean and you are not involved in any illegal means then you should never have any problems with them. I am betting at stake and sportsbet for a long time now and never had any problems apart from some wrong settlements and minor issues which are then looked after by the support teams.

1xbet (scam) has been known to cheat players and that is where you need to be careful. If you are gambling at a fair site you should be good.
Why are you so eager to mention the name of a sportbook just because your perception tells you to work opposite to the question that was asked. No dispute here man. Virtually almost all sportbooks can selectively deprived their players some certain amount of fund in a minute manners. If you are still having problems with your sportbook then while not others. Just work with what works for you not attacking other sport books. No dispute man.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: CDC AP on October 28, 2021, 05:02:16 PM
well I do betting in sportsbet.io since many years and it has never asked any kyc documents . I made many successful deposits and withdrawals on this site, both using cryptos as well as my fiat currency , no problem happened what so ever, so I would recommend you to try this site if you are looking for a no kyc sportsbook.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: Fortify on October 28, 2021, 07:19:57 PM
What are some sportbooks that will NEVER ask for KYC

It seems to highly depend upon both where the sportsbook is based and where the customer is based. It's kind of a catch-22 situation, because you should have more faith that a company asking for KYC is likely trying to adhere to the financial reporting requirements of most jurisdictions (it's far too easy to launder illicit money these days if you don't) and at the same time - you will be supply them with some highly sensitive documents that could be very damaging if they were somehow leaked by the customer (either via hacking or just incompetent management). I can understand why many people do not want to hand it over but you'll see it required more and more often in future by serious businesses.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: carlfebz2 on October 28, 2021, 07:48:03 PM
What are some sportbooks that will NEVER ask for KYC
If you do talk about never asking out for KYC then there's none because majority of those platforms and inclusive on their terms and conditions then
they would potentially ask out for some personal verification if they do saw some violation on your part which is really indeed plausible.

If you do talk about current no KYC sportsbook for you to able to play with ease or directly as we say
then there are several sites which can really be trusted.

1. Sportsbet.ioo
2. Nitrogen
3. Stake
4. Bitdice.me
5. Playbetr


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: Ryker1 on October 29, 2021, 02:46:18 AM
[snip]
1. Sportsbet.ioo
2. Nitrogen
3. Stake
4. Bitdice.me
5. Playbetr
Well it is a good list but I think there are some that you did not mention, let me add some.
- [Betbit.com]
- [Onehash.com]
- [Dbet.io]
- [Fairlay.com]
- [Bitcoinrush.io]
- [Betcoin.ag]
Those are the gambling casino that did not require KYC but I did not know if they are already updated to KYC.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: traderethereum on October 29, 2021, 06:14:49 AM
[snip]
1. Sportsbet.ioo
2. Nitrogen
3. Stake
4. Bitdice.me
5. Playbetr
Well it is a good list but I think there are some that you did not mention, let me add some.
- [Betbit.com]
- [Onehash.com]
- [Dbet.io]
- [Fairlay.com]
- [Bitcoinrush.io]
- [Betcoin.ag]
Those are the gambling casino that did not require KYC but I did not know if they are already updated to KYC.
The above list is good enough to bet and plus Betcoin.ag and I think they all have their reputations among the other gambling site.
But I do not know with the other list except Betcoin.ag, one of the oldest crypto gambling sites here.
When we have a list of Sportbooks that does not require KYC, we should only select the site with reputations and not just follow other people's suggestions.
That is because we want to find which site can give us comfort, feel safe, and other things that can make us enjoy staying.
If we have one or more sites, we do not have to search for the other Sportbooks because we will need more time to find out if that site can match what we want.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: KTChampions on October 29, 2021, 10:29:26 AM
I think that most of these stories about successful gamblers who beat casinos are written by the casinos themselves (by the way, as well as various winning strategies)  ;D All this is done for the purpose of advertising and to exploit the feeling of greed in people to lure them into this area. I do not welcome this, gambling should be entertainment, not a way to make money.

Nice theory because no one would appear to the public that they are really making money in sports if they don't have another agenda or if they are not paid. They say that you cannot beat a casino, but in sports betting, you don't beat the casino as they only facilitate bets, you beat your fellow sports bettors if you are a profitable gambler.

I think this theory can be considered a proven fact - after all, no one is surprised when casinos give big bonuses to new players, and poker rooms organize poker schools and pay them for every new player who comes to poker. They all understand that such investments ultimately give a good income, so it is logical to invest in regular advertising when someone writes their "true success stories" and thus attracts new players.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: Hypnosis00 on October 29, 2021, 11:08:37 AM
I think that most of these stories about successful gamblers who beat casinos are written by the casinos themselves (by the way, as well as various winning strategies)  ;D All this is done for the purpose of advertising and to exploit the feeling of greed in people to lure them into this area. I do not welcome this, gambling should be entertainment, not a way to make money.

Nice theory because no one would appear to the public that they are really making money in sports if they don't have another agenda or if they are not paid. They say that you cannot beat a casino, but in sports betting, you don't beat the casino as they only facilitate bets, you beat your fellow sports bettors if you are a profitable gambler.

I think this theory can be considered a proven fact - after all, no one is surprised when casinos give big bonuses to new players, and poker rooms organize poker schools and pay them for every new player who comes to poker. They all understand that such investments ultimately give a good income, so it is logical to invest in regular advertising when someone writes their "true success stories" and thus attracts new players.

But this theory is not proven and I don't know if it will be proven as no one would admit that a successful gambler based on the story receives money just to come up with a success story. Gambling operators are really clever, they'll always find a way to attract gamblers to increase their profit.

At least we should know this theory so we will not be blind when it comes to our real chance of winning.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: Peanutswar on October 29, 2021, 11:15:37 AM
I guess with the word never it's too hard to tell that some of the platform today does not have a KYC before creating an account and still they have this kind of feature. KYC is an additional layer of security for their users. AFAIK stake.com does not have a mandatory KYC for now.

Select what you think to suit you and also try to check their FAQs and terms of the agreement to prevent having issues with their platform.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: Botnake on October 29, 2021, 01:10:42 PM
I guess with the word never it's too hard to tell that some of the platform today does not have a KYC before creating an account and still they have this kind of feature. KYC is an additional layer of security for their users. AFAIK stake.com does not have a mandatory KYC for now.

Select what you think to suit you and also try to check their FAQs and terms of the agreement to prevent having issues with their platform.

Everyone would always choose a gambling site that does not require a KYC, it's the essence of why we are gambling in the crypto space, we want to be anonymous so we can hide our real identity, so submitting to the KYC requirements is just like playing in a fiat sportsbook.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: KTChampions on October 29, 2021, 02:22:10 PM
I think this theory can be considered a proven fact - after all, no one is surprised when casinos give big bonuses to new players, and poker rooms organize poker schools and pay them for every new player who comes to poker. They all understand that such investments ultimately give a good income, so it is logical to invest in regular advertising when someone writes their "true success stories" and thus attracts new players.

But this theory is not proven and I don't know if it will be proven as no one would admit that a successful gambler based on the story receives money just to come up with a success story. Gambling operators are really clever, they'll always find a way to attract gamblers to increase their profit.

At least we should know this theory so we will not be blind when it comes to our real chance of winning.

Doesn't the presence of topics like this: Fake bets (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5323351.0) that appear from time to time indicate that casinos are engaged in marketing in all possible directions? And tell me, what's the point of the existence of poker schools that teach how to profit play while not taking payment, but on the contrary sponsoring players for their first deposit? I think the answer is obvious. Now think about why successful gamblers tell their secrets and supposedly help strangers beat the casino? I see no reason other than bragging (hard to believe in this as we talk about money). So since there are no such reasons, then most likely it is sponsored by various casinos.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: dothebeats on October 29, 2021, 02:34:59 PM
Those sportsbooks that still offer no KYC on bets are already mentioned below, although there are instances wherein if you win a huge amount, or if any such discrepancies and suspicious activities were found on your account, you would need to submit KYC else your account gets locked or you cannot withdraw your profits. Sooner or later, these no KYC bookies will have to comply and re-do their ToS as government regulations will probably squeeze them tighter for them to give in.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: Woodie on October 29, 2021, 02:48:22 PM
What are some sportbooks that will NEVER ask for KYC
I don't know about "never" because some of these sportsbook we have might not ask for KYC upon registration but chances are that they have these requirements hidden in their terms and conditions which becomes a humongous task when you are faced with a problem.

The only sportsbook that guaranteed this 99.99% was directbet but unfortunately they are no more!

You could try roobet sportsbook too but there was a time people were required to fill in some kyc forms into the platform before they could proceed and this was before the sportsbook was introduced.

What are some sportbooks that will NEVER ask for KYC
If you do talk about never asking out for KYC then there's none because majority of those platforms and inclusive on their terms and conditions then
they would potentially ask out for some personal verification if they do saw some violation on your part which is really indeed plausible.

If you do talk about current no KYC sportsbook for you to able to play with ease or directly as we say
then there are several sites which can really be trusted.


1. Sportsbet.ioo
Not sure if this is a typo but isn't Sportsbet.io KYC compliant? Someone confirm this, thanks.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: johhnyUA on October 29, 2021, 05:47:14 PM
From my base knowledge, most sportsbook will ask for KYC verification depending on player's activity and balance.

From my experience the interconnection between your activity and KYC is very simple: If you're winning, they ask you to prove yourself. If you're losing, you can play without KYC for a very long time (maybe even endlessly).

So yeah, for succesfull players there no such thing as "Sportbook without KYC"


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: 7788bitcoin on October 29, 2021, 09:30:43 PM
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From my experience the interconnection between your activity and KYC is very simple: If you're winning, they ask you to prove yourself. If you're losing, you can play without KYC for a very long time (maybe even endlessly).

So yeah, for succesfull players there no such thing as "Sportbook without KYC"
You got a point, either the sportsbook will give you incentive to verify your KYC and that is what some of the smart ones are doing  ;), when you are winning a lot then you will be asked to verify your identity and i have seen some cases where some of the players were forced to verify before withdrawing. Yet i can wage in stake without verifying if i am not looking for any freebies from them.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: timerland on October 30, 2021, 12:17:45 AM
What are some sportbooks that will NEVER ask for KYC

Can't guarantee that.

But based on historical track record alone I'd probably go with Stake.

Stake/PD has been around for almost a decade and I have never heard anyone complain about needing to do KYC on their platform. Definitely a safe bet.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: alegotardo on October 30, 2021, 02:05:49 AM
What are some sportbooks that will NEVER ask for KYC

first we need to know what you want when betting on sports games.

If your intention, like mine, is just to have fun while following championships that you would watch one way or another, then that's ok... there are several sites that allow you to play without the need for KYC.

But, if your intention is to withdraw some eventual profit and this amount is significant, then you will find little or no option if you are considering only the most recognized and safe sites.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: mv1986 on October 30, 2021, 03:20:19 PM
I think most of the sportsbookies have had some bad publicity or unsatisfied customers, that is why it is really a bit difficult to share one's own experiences while others might have had problems at some point. However, my personal experience with Cloudbet was very smooth so far for years now, but I just saw that there are also rumors about some shady actions. The problem is it is hard to outsiders to distinguish between real information a player claims to provide and real information the bookie claims to provide.So still for me it was like five or six years now without any trouble. I think I had one minor problem, but that got resolved eventually. Was during their early days. No KYC thus far.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: Desmong on October 30, 2021, 07:36:23 PM
From my base knowledge, most sportsbook will ask for KYC verification depending on player's activity and balance.

From my experience the interconnection between your activity and KYC is very simple: If you're winning, they ask you to prove yourself. If you're losing, you can play without KYC for a very long time (maybe even endlessly).

So yeah, for succesfull players there no such thing as "Sportbook without KYC"
Kyc should not be forced on gamblers to do. Kyc can be stressful at times making you to do what you don't want to do with stress. Although the government might require kyc to update tax duties to be paid by gamblers. There are various forms of kyc that which should not be forced on gamblers. When you are winning the system would want to ensure that the player is a human not robot that is why kyc might be required during winnings.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: DoublerHunter on October 30, 2021, 08:07:58 PM
From my base knowledge, most sportsbook will ask for KYC verification depending on player's activity and balance.

From my experience the interconnection between your activity and KYC is very simple: If you're winning, they ask you to prove yourself. If you're losing, you can play without KYC for a very long time (maybe even endlessly).

So yeah, for succesfull players there no such thing as "Sportbook without KYC"
^ Definitely right and especially when you are in winning of big amount, either the reason is you will be suspected for the illegal activity and your identity must be at stake because of another suspecting having illegal activities. Because of money laundering, I understand that gamblers need to proceed with KYC verification if this is a basic one and I don't think you must be afraid. What if you will win a big amount and after you will know that they will ask KYC if you will win a huge amount, take it or leave it just because you did not want to expose your identity.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: fullhdpixel on October 30, 2021, 09:06:28 PM
well I do betting in sportsbet.io since many years and it has never asked any kyc documents . I made many successful deposits and withdrawals on this site, both using cryptos as well as my fiat currency , no problem happened what so ever, so I would recommend you to try this site if you are looking for a no kyc sportsbook.
Glad to see even though you are promoting a scam via your signature, at least you are recommending the trusted ones :). And yeah I agree that I have never been asked for documents from any sportsbook either apart from the documents some ask as a mandatory rule, but that has nothing to do with sports betting specifically.

You may try bitsler, stake, sportsbet and even wolf bet nowadays as they have added sportsbook and none of them ask for KYC from what I know.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: Johnyz on October 30, 2021, 09:11:50 PM
What are some sportbooks that will NEVER ask for KYC
Stake are the best options for me but seriously, there’s no such thing NEVER because those gambling site might require you to fill up KYC especially if your account is suspicious, better to read the Terms of service first so you can be more aware about the rules and prevent any suspicious transactions later on.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: TimeTeller on October 30, 2021, 09:27:35 PM
well I do betting in sportsbet.io since many years and it has never asked any kyc documents . I made many successful deposits and withdrawals on this site, both using cryptos as well as my fiat currency , no problem happened what so ever, so I would recommend you to try this site if you are looking for a no kyc sportsbook.
Glad to see even though you are promoting a scam via your signature, at least you are recommending the trusted ones :). And yeah I agree that I have never been asked for documents from any sportsbook either apart from the documents some ask as a mandatory rule, but that has nothing to do with sports betting specifically.

You may try bitsler, stake, sportsbet and even wolf bet nowadays as they have added sportsbook and none of them ask for KYC from what I know.

I thought if you are dealing with your fiat currency, usually casino will ask KYC.
Just learned that sportsbet is not asking KYC even if you are dealing with fiat.
But I think, everyone should check the ToS every once in a while because they may change their protocols.
As they may adopt some changes owed to changing government regulations towards online casinos.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: samcrypto on October 30, 2021, 09:29:55 PM
What are some sportbooks that will NEVER ask for KYC
1. Sportsbet.ioo
2. Nitrogen
3. Stake
4. Bitdice.me
5. Playbetr
Trusted sportsbooks are already on this list, they didn’t ask KYC if you’re just a small time gambler but if you will
Put your big money there, I think that’s a different situation where a gambling site needs to know your source of money because they also follow AMLA rules to prevent any money from fraud, so expect KYC if your purpose is like this, hopefully not.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: Oilacris on October 30, 2021, 09:30:00 PM
What are some sportbooks that will NEVER ask for KYC
Stake are the best options for me but seriously, there’s no such thing NEVER because those gambling site might require you to fill up KYC especially if your account is suspicious, better to read the Terms of service first so you can be more aware about the rules and prevent any suspicious transactions later on.
Actually most websites/platforms at the moment does really have that possible KYC requirement if ever you had violated something against their TOS which is really very common and you should really be that common.

For now on current market on which most sports book doesnt ask out kyc aside if there are some possible issues that you are facing then
you could possibly able to experience it.

You can choose and those list had already been given by most members here.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: crzy on October 30, 2021, 09:53:19 PM
No KYC only works for small gamblers I guess because there’s a restrictions and guidelines that you need to understand and if you put big money on that casinos without having any history of playing that could be alarming also you can’t withdraw it easily that will be the start of investigation so understand the consequences if you’re planning to put big money and don’t want to give any personal information to the gambling site. Stakes and other sportsbook have the same rules, KYC can still be asked.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: Silberman on October 30, 2021, 10:05:04 PM
Wondering how a player can cheat? All I can come up is multi-accounts for bonus hunting, but this is hardly the case for most ordinary players. And you correctly noted that there may be other conditions for whale players - hardly any bookmaker will like a player who makes big bets and wins. It is very important how they behave in such a situation.

I wonder the same thing?! All I know I picked up from reading stuff across the internet, and mostly it's connected with money laundering, abusing bonuses and promotions... when you get into reading about this stuff you can find many crazy things! I can't even claim that half of that is true!

Ordinary player, I include myself in that group, will just go along with the rules of the house! Of course, if we are comfortable with those rules, if not we will look for another place!

I don't like KYC, I done it many times and I will probably do it here and there again, but I will try to avoid it as much as I can! Exchange or a casino, it doesn't matter, when KYC becomes mandatory I already have a replacement!

I think that most of these stories about successful gamblers who beat casinos are written by the casinos themselves (by the way, as well as various winning strategies)  ;D All this is done for the purpose of advertising and to exploit the feeling of greed in people to lure them into this area. I do not welcome this, gambling should be entertainment, not a way to make money.
It is not really necessary for casinos to do that as the games themselves do that on their own, it is obvious that over the long term the odds do not favor us but someone is bound to win once in a while, look at lotteries, we know the odds to win are incredibly small and yet every single day someone wins the lottery around the world, this creates those successful stories that the majority want to replicate, and of course it is impossible to replicate a success like that unless you have luck on your side.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: Alisha-k on October 30, 2021, 11:11:36 PM
No KYC only works for small gamblers I guess because there’s a restrictions and guidelines that you need to understand and if you put big money on that casinos without having any history of playing that could be alarming also you can’t withdraw it easily that will be the start of investigation so understand the consequences if you’re planning to put big money and don’t want to give any personal information to the gambling site. Stakes and other sportsbook have the same rules, KYC can still be asked.
I think they can be a way to withdraw without the KYC, most atimes they are some T/C that follows consecutively and it's always 30% in favour of the customers,then 70% in favour of the company.
KYC's are needed specifically when huge money is deposited in the wallet and needs confirmation of identity when cashing out payments or retrieving funds from the accounts and these is not done officially by every site as you said though


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: timerland on October 31, 2021, 02:37:06 AM
No KYC only works for small gamblers I guess because there’s a restrictions and guidelines that you need to understand and if you put big money on that casinos without having any history of playing that could be alarming also you can’t withdraw it easily that will be the start of investigation so understand the consequences if you’re planning to put big money and don’t want to give any personal information to the gambling site. Stakes and other sportsbook have the same rules, KYC can still be asked.

Exactly.

People have to realize that just because it hasn't been done in the past, doesn't mean that KYC can't be used in the future according to the existing T&Cs on the company.

And no company will ever leave themselves exposed by having a clause in the T&Cs explicitly saying that there will be no KYC policy regardless of regulatory pressure. Even the reputable ones like Stake.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: ralle14 on November 01, 2021, 12:24:24 PM
KYC's are needed specifically when huge money is deposited in the wallet and needs confirmation of identity when cashing out payments or retrieving funds from the accounts and these is not done officially by every site as you said though
The bad part is that some casinos only enforce KYC once their player starts to request for a withdraw and not the other way around.

No KYC only works for small gamblers I guess because there’s a restrictions and guidelines that you need to understand and if you put big money on that casinos without having any history of playing that could be alarming also you can’t withdraw it easily that will be the start of investigation so understand the consequences if you’re planning to put big money and don’t want to give any personal information to the gambling site. Stakes and other sportsbook have the same rules, KYC can still be asked.
Depends on what you mean by small gambler because you could still get away without any KYC while risking thousand dollars per bet on certain casinos but it's always better to spread your bankroll between different casinos.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: Vaculin on November 01, 2021, 12:50:22 PM
KYC's are needed specifically when huge money is deposited in the wallet and needs confirmation of identity when cashing out payments or retrieving funds from the accounts and these is not done officially by every site as you said though
The bad part is that some casinos only enforce KYC once their player starts to request for a withdraw and not the other way around.

That's true, and it's really unfair because if they are honest with their service, they should have required KYC from the very beginning. I read some of the cases in scam accusation board on some gamblers unable to withdraw their money as they are suspected of cheating, and as part of the requirement, they are forced to submit documents proving they are the person, I think the essence of anonymous betting is gone and they are used to cheat the bettors.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: sportbettor on November 01, 2021, 08:31:42 PM
What are some sportbooks that will NEVER ask for KYC
You can find the List of the best non-KYC sportsbooks (with some exceptions only) here: http://100bookies.com/best-cryptocurrencies-sportsbooks-eng/


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: Eureka_07 on November 01, 2021, 09:05:10 PM
KYC's are needed specifically when huge money is deposited in the wallet and needs confirmation of identity when cashing out payments or retrieving funds from the accounts and these is not done officially by every site as you said though
The bad part is that some casinos only enforce KYC once their player starts to request for a withdraw and not the other way around.

That's true, and it's really unfair because if they are honest with their service, they should have required KYC from the very beginning. I read some of the cases in scam accusation board on some gamblers unable to withdraw their money as they are suspected of cheating, and as part of the requirement, they are forced to submit documents proving they are the person, I think the essence of anonymous betting is gone and they are used to cheat the bettors.
It is actually a bad part. It is just most casino are being regulated by their own government and supports the fight on money laundering. Though the essence of being anonymous in cryptocurrenct when it comes to gambling is gone, it still helps to identify which account is laundering money and which are not. Some casinos though abuse this KYC implementation for them to snatch money from their own users. That's the bad part of it.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: seleme on November 01, 2021, 09:26:35 PM
What are some sportbooks that will NEVER ask for KYC
Stake are the best options for me but seriously, there’s no such thing NEVER because those gambling site might require you to fill up KYC especially if your account is suspicious, better to read the Terms of service first so you can be more aware about the rules and prevent any suspicious transactions later on.
Stake is an average bookie and so much slippery, cashout availability problems, etc. I have seen so many cases about the sudden KYC requirement by the Stake team and they refuse to pay if the user doesn't want to pass KYC. So I doubt the OP will be interested to bet on Stake, there are better alternatives if the criteria is KYC-free sports bookies.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: harizen on November 01, 2021, 10:02:21 PM
What are some sportbooks that will NEVER ask for KYC
Stake are the best options for me but seriously, there’s no such thing NEVER because those gambling site might require you to fill up KYC especially if your account is suspicious, better to read the Terms of service first so you can be more aware about the rules and prevent any suspicious transactions later on.
Stake is an average bookie and so much slippery, cashout availability problems, etc. I have seen so many cases about the sudden KYC requirement by the Stake team and they refuse to pay if the user doesn't want to pass KYC. So I doubt the OP will be interested to bet on Stake, there are better alternatives if the criteria is KYC-free sports bookies.

The question is not about KYC-free sports bookies but the assurance that sports betting websites will not ask for KYC in the future.

All crypto-bettings sites have a chance to break their terms about no-KYC in the future that's why instead of suggesting to OP some crypto-sites, better give advice that be ready when KYC will be asked.

Even the most popular and reputable sports betting sites can't give an assurance that they will keep their no-KYC policy for long.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: chaser15 on November 01, 2021, 11:40:55 PM
What are some sportbooks that will NEVER ask for KYC
Stake are the best options for me but seriously, there’s no such thing NEVER because those gambling site might require you to fill up KYC especially if your account is suspicious, better to read the Terms of service first so you can be more aware about the rules and prevent any suspicious transactions later on.

I have to agree with you. Stake does have a feature now of submitting personal information although not mandatory. The same goes for other top sportsbooks here in which there's a chance that someday they will require a mandatory KYC too. These sites have no choice after all. They know that gamblers don't like KYC so why they will add it? But because, they are forced to do it, in the near future, we have to comply.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: agustina2 on November 01, 2021, 11:53:15 PM
well I do betting in sportsbet.io since many years and it has never asked any kyc documents . I made many successful deposits and withdrawals on this site, both using cryptos as well as my fiat currency , no problem happened what so ever, so I would recommend you to try this site if you are looking for a no kyc sportsbook.
Glad to see even though you are promoting a scam via your signature, at least you are recommending the trusted ones :). And yeah I agree that I have never been asked for documents from any sportsbook either apart from the documents some ask as a mandatory rule, but that has nothing to do with sports betting specifically.

You may try bitsler, stake, sportsbet and even wolf bet nowadays as they have added sportsbook and none of them ask for KYC from what I know.

I thought if you are dealing with your fiat currency, usually casino will ask KYC.
Just learned that sportsbet is not asking KYC even if you are dealing with fiat.
But I think, everyone should check the ToS every once in a while because they may change their protocols.
As they may adopt some changes owed to changing government regulations towards online casinos.

Not that every time users have to check Terms of Service but make it a habit.

If there's a possible change like KYC is now a requirement, I'm sure that sports betting sites will give notifications to their users.

For new users, that should now be placed on the registration page for awareness.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: Silberman on November 02, 2021, 11:21:42 PM
No KYC only works for small gamblers I guess because there’s a restrictions and guidelines that you need to understand and if you put big money on that casinos without having any history of playing that could be alarming also you can’t withdraw it easily that will be the start of investigation so understand the consequences if you’re planning to put big money and don’t want to give any personal information to the gambling site. Stakes and other sportsbook have the same rules, KYC can still be asked.

Exactly.

People have to realize that just because it hasn't been done in the past, doesn't mean that KYC can't be used in the future according to the existing T&Cs on the company.

And no company will ever leave themselves exposed by having a clause in the T&Cs explicitly saying that there will be no KYC policy regardless of regulatory pressure. Even the reputable ones like Stake.
And even if a casino went as far as stating on their TOS that they are not going to ask for KYC if the casino becomes big enough they are going to be pressured by the authorities to change their policies and this will eventually be reflected on their TOS, then they will send you an email stating that by keeping your account and still gamble at the casino you are accepting their new terms which means they can hit you with KYC at any time they want, so unfortunately the dream of the OP of a casino with no KYC no matter the circumstances is simply not possible.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: Hamphser on November 02, 2021, 11:34:57 PM
No KYC only works for small gamblers I guess because there’s a restrictions and guidelines that you need to understand and if you put big money on that casinos without having any history of playing that could be alarming also you can’t withdraw it easily that will be the start of investigation so understand the consequences if you’re planning to put big money and don’t want to give any personal information to the gambling site. Stakes and other sportsbook have the same rules, KYC can still be asked.

Exactly.

People have to realize that just because it hasn't been done in the past, doesn't mean that KYC can't be used in the future according to the existing T&Cs on the company.

And no company will ever leave themselves exposed by having a clause in the T&Cs explicitly saying that there will be no KYC policy regardless of regulatory pressure. Even the reputable ones like Stake.
And even if a casino went as far as stating on their TOS that they are not going to ask for KYC if the casino becomes big enough they are going to be pressured by the authorities to change their policies and this will eventually be reflected on their TOS, then they will send you an email stating that by keeping your account and still gamble at the casino you are accepting their new terms which means they can hit you with KYC at any time they want, so unfortunately the dream of the OP of a casino with no KYC no matter the circumstances is simply not possible.
Everything becomes big will really make out some noise which would really result into sudden changes whenever the government take involvement but for now most gambling sports book doesnt require KYC

other than those fiat typical bookies but for crypto sportsbook then they arent asking everything but as mentioned whenever they do see some violation of tos then thats the time for them to ask out some

identity verification which you wouldnt have any choice because you had checked off the user agreement when you do register.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: 24Kt on November 02, 2021, 11:58:25 PM
No KYC only works for small gamblers I guess because there’s a restrictions and guidelines that you need to understand and if you put big money on that casinos without having any history of playing that could be alarming also you can’t withdraw it easily that will be the start of investigation so understand the consequences if you’re planning to put big money and don’t want to give any personal information to the gambling site. Stakes and other sportsbook have the same rules, KYC can still be asked.

Exactly.

People have to realize that just because it hasn't been done in the past, doesn't mean that KYC can't be used in the future according to the existing T&Cs on the company.

And no company will ever leave themselves exposed by having a clause in the T&Cs explicitly saying that there will be no KYC policy regardless of regulatory pressure. Even the reputable ones like Stake.
And even if a casino went as far as stating on their TOS that they are not going to ask for KYC if the casino becomes big enough they are going to be pressured by the authorities to change their policies and this will eventually be reflected on their TOS, then they will send you an email stating that by keeping your account and still gamble at the casino you are accepting their new terms which means they can hit you with KYC at any time they want, so unfortunately the dream of the OP of a casino with no KYC no matter the circumstances is simply not possible.
Everything becomes big will really make out some noise which would really result into sudden changes whenever the government take involvement but for now most gambling sports book doesnt require KYC

other than those fiat typical bookies but for crypto sportsbook then they arent asking everything but as mentioned whenever they do see some violation of tos then thats the time for them to ask out some

identity verification which you wouldnt have any choice because you had checked off the user agreement when you do register.

So the question of the OP is not to be taken to have a defined answer as it depends on circumstances. Even if we say, the casino is not asking KYC, but if in case you violate their ToS or you are guilty of some suspicious activities, definitely, they may ask you to submit KYC. Or if they see that you may be guilty of possible money laundering, even if from your end you are not, they have the privilege to ask KYC as from their end, you may be guilty of that conduct. In this case, we can't say never because we don't know what other circumstances you will face while you are playing in the casino. But it is advisable to play on reputable casinos here so you can easily ask for help if you need one.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: michellee on November 03, 2021, 01:31:02 AM
So the question of the OP is not to be taken to have a defined answer as it depends on circumstances. Even if we say, the casino is not asking KYC, but if in case you violate their ToS or you are guilty of some suspicious activities, definitely, they may ask you to submit KYC. Or if they see that you may be guilty of possible money laundering, even if from your end you are not, they have the privilege to ask KYC as from their end, you may be guilty of that conduct. In this case, we can't say never because we don't know what other circumstances you will face while you are playing in the casino. But it is advisable to play on reputable casinos here so you can easily ask for help if you need one.
So, in the end, KYC will be asked for their members, especially for those who are doing suspicious activities, because the casino wants to make sure that their members will not do something that can break their rules. It is how about we can be responsible for our account and not make them ask for the KYC. Playing on reputable casinos will always be recommended for every gambler but we should care for ourselves and not try to make a problem.

If the withdrawal amount is not too big, the casino will let the process and not ask about the KYC. It will be different if members want to withdraw big money because the casino can ask for KYC.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: Fundamentals Of on November 03, 2021, 01:39:49 AM
Since you are putting emphasis on NEVER, I'm afraid there is none. No sportsbook could guarantee you one hundred percent that they will never require KYC from you no matter what. There are so many sportsbooks that do not require KYC upon opening of account, betting, deposit and withdrawal, etc. But it still does not mean that you will never be required KYC ever. There might come a time when suspicious activities are detected in your account. Or you might eventually be transacting huge amounts in your account. These are reasons for possible KYC request.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: Hypnosis00 on November 03, 2021, 07:33:44 AM
Since you are putting emphasis on NEVER, I'm afraid there is none. No sportsbook could guarantee you one hundred percent that they will never require KYC from you no matter what. There are so many sportsbooks that do not require KYC upon opening of account, betting, deposit and withdrawal, etc. But it still does not mean that you will never be required KYC ever. There might come a time when suspicious activities are detected in your account. Or you might eventually be transacting huge amounts in your account. These are reasons for possible KYC request.
Sportsbook should at least make it transparent which users can read in the TOS before signing up, it's not fair if they promote "no KYC gambling" but later they'll use it to block huge withdrawal. I know some casinos who are doing that and they have a bad reputation now, so hopefully the casinos that are popular in the market will not use the KYC requirement to steal the winnings of the gamblers.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: Hamphser on November 03, 2021, 11:30:51 PM

So the question of the OP is not to be taken to have a defined answer as it depends on circumstances. Even if we say, the casino is not asking KYC, but if in case you violate their ToS or you are guilty of some suspicious activities, definitely, they may ask you to submit KYC. Or if they see that you may be guilty of possible money laundering, even if from your end you are not, they have the privilege to ask KYC as from their end, you may be guilty of that conduct. In this case, we can't say never because we don't know what other circumstances you will face while you are playing in the casino. But it is advisable to play on reputable casinos here so you can easily ask for help if you need one.
Once we do check out that tick box in terms and conditions then it is automatically signifies that you had accepted their terms which as a user you are fully aware on what and on how things been working around.

They do have the full rights on asking everything and its just common sense that you should stick on reputable or known site at least if you dont
like any headaches when problem do occurs.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: Fundamentals Of on November 04, 2021, 01:54:51 AM
Since you are putting emphasis on NEVER, I'm afraid there is none. No sportsbook could guarantee you one hundred percent that they will never require KYC from you no matter what. There are so many sportsbooks that do not require KYC upon opening of account, betting, deposit and withdrawal, etc. But it still does not mean that you will never be required KYC ever. There might come a time when suspicious activities are detected in your account. Or you might eventually be transacting huge amounts in your account. These are reasons for possible KYC request.
Sportsbook should at least make it transparent which users can read in the TOS before signing up, it's not fair if they promote "no KYC gambling" but later they'll use it to block huge withdrawal. I know some casinos who are doing that and they have a bad reputation now, so hopefully the casinos that are popular in the market will not use the KYC requirement to steal the winnings of the gamblers.

There probably be certain phrases even in the TOS of non-KYC casinos about possibly requiring users to submit personal information. Remember that casinos are considered questionable sources of funds. It is prone to money laundering. So any centralized casino that is licensed and regulated will have to abide by the law. If a law enforcement authority is making an investigation, casinos simply cannot resist by saying they won't require their users to submit KYC because they are a non-KYC casino.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: rodskee on November 04, 2021, 03:35:12 AM
Since you are putting emphasis on NEVER, I'm afraid there is none. No sportsbook could guarantee you one hundred percent that they will never require KYC from you no matter what. There are so many sportsbooks that do not require KYC upon opening of account, betting, deposit and withdrawal, etc. But it still does not mean that you will never be required KYC ever. There might come a time when suspicious activities are detected in your account. Or you might eventually be transacting huge amounts in your account. These are reasons for possible KYC request.
It is clear in almost every gambling site that their Terms of Service tells no KYC requirement but in the back of it they also indicated that if you played questionable way so in the end the Site can obliged us sending them our KYC so what does this mean? we as gambler are subjective that requirement in some way or another.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: Fundamentals Of on November 04, 2021, 04:22:08 AM
Since you are putting emphasis on NEVER, I'm afraid there is none. No sportsbook could guarantee you one hundred percent that they will never require KYC from you no matter what. There are so many sportsbooks that do not require KYC upon opening of account, betting, deposit and withdrawal, etc. But it still does not mean that you will never be required KYC ever. There might come a time when suspicious activities are detected in your account. Or you might eventually be transacting huge amounts in your account. These are reasons for possible KYC request.
It is clear in almost every gambling site that their Terms of Service tells no KYC requirement but in the back of it they also indicated that if you played questionable way so in the end the Site can obliged us sending them our KYC so what does this mean? we as gambler are subjective that requirement in some way or another.

Have you read almost every gambling site's Terms of Service? Because you were saying that it is clear in almost every gambling site that their Terms of Service tells no KYC requirement. Me, I haven't read a lot of Terms of Service of gambling sites but I am sure that even those non-KYC gambling sites are clearly indicating in their Terms of Service that there are instances in which KYC may be required. So that's why I am saying that it is never a guarantee that since a gambling site is non-KYC, it will never be requesting a player for KYC. After all they are operating within the bounds of the law as duly regulated business.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: johhnyUA on November 05, 2021, 09:22:05 PM
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From my experience the interconnection between your activity and KYC is very simple: If you're winning, they ask you to prove yourself. If you're losing, you can play without KYC for a very long time (maybe even endlessly).

So yeah, for succesfull players there no such thing as "Sportbook without KYC"
Yet i can wage in stake without verifying if i am not looking for any freebies from them.

And how much did you win? As i understand you're talking about Stake.io ? I think you're not winning too much to be forced to verify your identity
And a little addition: If you have business with fiat, you will be forced to do KYC early or lately.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: stadus on November 05, 2021, 09:57:56 PM
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From my experience the interconnection between your activity and KYC is very simple: If you're winning, they ask you to prove yourself. If you're losing, you can play without KYC for a very long time (maybe even endlessly).

So yeah, for succesfull players there no such thing as "Sportbook without KYC"
Yet i can wage in stake without verifying if i am not looking for any freebies from them.

And how much did you win? As i understand you're talking about Stake.io ? I think you're not winning too much to be forced to verify your identity
And a little addition: If you have business with fiat, you will be forced to do KYC early or lately.

Actually what is too much? can you name a range of amounts?

I'm gambling using stake too but I never get required to do a KYC, maybe I don't win that much, last time I remember, I won like $200 in a single bet and everything went through from grading the bet to withdrawing the amount from the site, no KYC or checkpoint, whatsover.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: agustina2 on November 05, 2021, 10:38:48 PM
Since you are putting emphasis on NEVER, I'm afraid there is none. No sportsbook could guarantee you one hundred percent that they will never require KYC from you no matter what. There are so many sportsbooks that do not require KYC upon opening of account, betting, deposit and withdrawal, etc. But it still does not mean that you will never be required KYC ever. There might come a time when suspicious activities are detected in your account. Or you might eventually be transacting huge amounts in your account. These are reasons for possible KYC request.

That's correct so I can't understand why others are mentioning some sportsbook where they didn't know what will happen next. Like in Stake.com. Some mentioned it here but just last week, I need to fill up my personal information before I can withdraw although no need to submit any documents. I don't know but maybe I'm using VPN access which is not prohibited in Stake.

Other sportsbook sites might request KYC in the future. We should expect it soon.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: AhmadM on November 05, 2021, 11:12:35 PM
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Actually what is too much? can you name a range of amounts?

I'm gambling using stake too but I never get required to do a KYC, maybe I don't win that much, last time I remember, I won like $200 in a single bet and everything went through from grading the bet to withdrawing the amount from the site, no KYC or checkpoint, whatsover.
Highly likely at the thousands of dollar amounts range, not too sure about the exact amount, though. To be honest, I believe for a huge casino platform such as stake.com, they wouldn't perform KYC requirements to its users who play at hundreds of dollar range for each session.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: Silberman on November 05, 2021, 11:16:18 PM
So the question of the OP is not to be taken to have a defined answer as it depends on circumstances. Even if we say, the casino is not asking KYC, but if in case you violate their ToS or you are guilty of some suspicious activities, definitely, they may ask you to submit KYC. Or if they see that you may be guilty of possible money laundering, even if from your end you are not, they have the privilege to ask KYC as from their end, you may be guilty of that conduct. In this case, we can't say never because we don't know what other circumstances you will face while you are playing in the casino. But it is advisable to play on reputable casinos here so you can easily ask for help if you need one.
So, in the end, KYC will be asked for their members, especially for those who are doing suspicious activities, because the casino wants to make sure that their members will not do something that can break their rules. It is how about we can be responsible for our account and not make them ask for the KYC. Playing on reputable casinos will always be recommended for every gambler but we should care for ourselves and not try to make a problem.

If the withdrawal amount is not too big, the casino will let the process and not ask about the KYC. It will be different if members want to withdraw big money because the casino can ask for KYC.
Unfortunately this is the case, we must remember that casinos still have to deal with the fiat system and sell their coins to pay for their operations, and even as adoption keeps growing and it comes to a point in which they can pay everything with bitcoin or other cryptocurrencies at the same time casino licenses are given by the governments and this means they have to abide by their rules, of which KYC is one of the main ones that they will always try to force cryptocurrency casinos to enforce if necessary.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: chaser15 on November 05, 2021, 11:54:18 PM
To be honest, I believe for a huge casino platform such as stake.com, they wouldn't perform KYC requirements to its users who play at hundreds of dollar range for each session.

Some users reported that there is the personal information needed before anything else. It means slowly but surely, we can now expect that KYC will be implemented at most casinos not just on Stake.

Regardless, I'm prepared for anything. If there's no choice but to comply, what we can do about it.

I will only pass KYC on reputable casinos.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: TimeTeller on November 05, 2021, 11:58:20 PM
To be honest, I believe for a huge casino platform such as stake.com, they wouldn't perform KYC requirements to its users who play at hundreds of dollar range for each session.

Some users reported that there is the personal information needed before anything else. It means slowly but surely, we can now expect that KYC will be implemented at most casinos not just on Stake.

Regardless, I'm prepared for anything. If there's no choice but to comply, what we can do about it.

I will only pass KYC on reputable casinos.

At some point, these casinos will apply KYC if they see that there's necessity of the situation.
For example, if the player is gearing towards violating one of their terms or they are suspecting something unusual to the account.
But if you know for sure, you are abiding all the terms, and not a high roller, I don't think submitting KYC will be your problem here.
But take note that if you win big, prepare your docs because the casino may find a way how to hold your funds.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: harizen on November 06, 2021, 04:39:44 AM
At some point, these casinos will apply KYC if they see that there's necessity of the situation.
For example, if the player is gearing towards violating one of their terms or they are suspecting something unusual to the account.
But if you know for sure, you are abiding all the terms, and not a high roller, I don't think submitting KYC will be your problem here.
But take note that if you win big, prepare your docs because the casino may find a way how to hold your funds.

As expected especially for those users who are using constantly VPN to connect. There are sites that allow the use of VPN however if the account was detected thru a different region it might trigger the site's alarm.

For big wins, it's already common and usual to see that some sites are asking for personal documents before claiming these big winnings. For that particular reason, I will not hesitate to provide my own documents. It's sure money in return after all if the process will go smoothly.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: Oshosondy on November 06, 2021, 04:55:06 AM
Since you are putting emphasis on NEVER, I'm afraid there is none.
There are still some gambling sites that require no verification other than email, some will also require for name and addresses which can be all fake and crypto based, the gambling crypto sites that require just crypto cryptocurrencies for payment make this more possible. Also if kyc is not up to the level of identification documents, should we regard just those email verification as kyc.

There are so many sportsbooks that do not require KYC upon opening of account, betting, deposit and withdrawal, etc. But it still does not mean that you will never be required KYC ever.
There are many of the gambling sites that requires not verification, there are still that I have been using for years now and no verification needed. Also on fiat based ones, ID verification is compulsory, but all fiat betting sites I have used in my country yet have not requested for ID verification, but I know they can get a lot of information from the master card I used for payment.

There might come a time when suspicious activities are detected in your account. Or you might eventually be transacting huge amounts in your account.
Suspicious activities, this had never happened to me before, I do not think such can also happen to me because I have only one account opened per one gambling sites and I am also mindful of the source of my deposit.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: michellee on November 06, 2021, 09:35:39 AM
There might come a time when suspicious activities are detected in your account. Or you might eventually be transacting huge amounts in your account.
Suspicious activities, this had never happened to me before, I do not think such can also happen to me because I have only one account opened per one gambling sites and I am also mindful of the source of my deposit.
Lucky you but we never know how other people can create another account and use their referral to get more bonuses. That could be suspicious activities for the casino and the casino will investigate to know the truth. If they see that you have another account, they can easily ban your account and you will prohibit playing on their site. It is better to search for No KYC gambling sites, not just for sportsbooks, to avoid sending our documents to them.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: harizen on November 06, 2021, 10:47:01 AM
Since you are putting emphasis on NEVER, I'm afraid there is none.
There are still some gambling sites that require no verification other than email, some will also require for name and addresses which can be all fake and crypto based, the gambling crypto sites that require just crypto cryptocurrencies for payment make this more possible. Also if kyc is not up to the level of identification documents, should we regard just those email verification as kyc.

The user is talking about the possible case in the future. For now, yes, there are still lots of gambling sites that require no KYC verification.

However, there's no assurance that someday, we will have the same setup. That's why there is no accurate answer to OP's question as we don't know the gambling site's plan in the future regarding KYC terms. If they will be hit up by hard regulations, then it's likely it will be passed to their users and KYC is one of the mandatory and necessary requirements that might be asked.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: Zackgeno96 on November 06, 2021, 10:56:09 AM
What are some sportbooks that will NEVER ask for KYC

There are bookies that will never ask you KYC and they are the one that has a high chance that will scam you. But there are some reputable and licensed gambling site where most of the time they don't ask KYC not unless you there are some unnecessary behavior that is going on with your account or you win a big amount of money. Some of them may ask KYC for security and to comply with their AML policy.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: btc78 on November 06, 2021, 11:13:51 AM
Even How those sportsbook mean that they are not requiring KYC as mandatory , but in the end? they may use this KYC to questioned specially those who are winning huge amount as their Terms mostly mentioned this that in any cases that the activity of the gambler is malicious then they will require KYC .
this means one thing that no matter how we wanted to get rid of KYC yet this will come sometimes .


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: Hypnosis00 on November 06, 2021, 12:22:43 PM
Even How those sportsbook mean that they are not requiring KYC as mandatory , but in the end? they may use this KYC to questioned specially those who are winning huge amount as their Terms mostly mentioned this that in any cases that the activity of the gambler is malicious then they will require KYC .
this means one thing that no matter how we wanted to get rid of KYC yet this will come sometimes .
That's not fair and it's a wrong practice, I heard some of that issues on some sportsbooks but the sportsbook I trust, don't require that KYC even if you win big. If they will promote anonymous gambling, then it's a violation of our rights if they'll suddenly require a KYC, it's not within the rules anymore but it's their effort to scam gamblers.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: madnessteat on November 06, 2021, 02:55:28 PM
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By registering with Sportbooks, you accept the agreement, which can often be amended without your consent, or it says that if the user is suspected of illegal activities, his account can be blocked until the circumstances are clarified. These circumstances mean that you must confirm your identity and prove the origin of funds. Keep this in mind and don't keep large sums at the gambling sites. 


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: passwordnow on November 06, 2021, 07:24:04 PM
Even How those sportsbook mean that they are not requiring KYC as mandatory , but in the end? they may use this KYC to questioned specially those who are winning huge amount as their Terms mostly mentioned this that in any cases that the activity of the gambler is malicious then they will require KYC .
this means one thing that no matter how we wanted to get rid of KYC yet this will come sometimes .
That's not fair and it's a wrong practice, I heard some of that issues on some sportsbooks but the sportsbook I trust, don't require that KYC even if you win big. If they will promote anonymous gambling, then it's a violation of our rights if they'll suddenly require a KYC, it's not within the rules anymore but it's their effort to scam gamblers.
If it's a wrong practice then there will be no sportsbook that will do. I agree to madness that in the beginning, upon your registration you've agreed to the terms and rules that they have. Despite not reading you, you've agreed whatever was written there and the KYC thing is part of it.
They can ask it whenever they want and if there's a trigger calling for them because of a very suspicious activity caught into your account.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: AhmadM on November 06, 2021, 07:24:57 PM
To be honest, I believe for a huge casino platform such as stake.com, they wouldn't perform KYC requirements to its users who play at hundreds of dollar range for each session.

Some users reported that there is the personal information needed before anything else. It means slowly but surely, we can now expect that KYC will be implemented at most casinos not just on Stake.
Perhaps those users are high rollers? Thats why the casino asked for some personal information to those users in the first place. As a small gambler like me who play with tens of dollar as starting balances, I have never faced such kind of thing.

Regardless, I'm prepared for anything. If there's no choice but to comply, what we can do about it.

I will only pass KYC on reputable casinos.
Like it or not, if we want to keep playing there we have to do it.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: DoublerHunter on November 06, 2021, 07:29:30 PM
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By registering with Sportbooks, you accept the agreement, which can often be amended without your consent, or it says that if the user is suspected of illegal activities, his account can be blocked until the circumstances are clarified. These circumstances mean that you must confirm your identity and prove the origin of funds. Keep this in mind and don't keep large sums at the gambling sites. 
^ Definitely right and totally agree with you, this is very common of each sportsbook and this agreement we should be aware in the first place before putting our money and this will be found on this TOS which is very crucial to us as gamblers. Most likely the NO KYC for now was slowly faded, as we can see the most sportsbook are now implemented KYC as an amended by the government. It is too hard to find a non KYC and if there is, their reputation is not strong enough to pick as a good sportsbook gambling casino.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: timerland on November 06, 2021, 08:01:44 PM
To be honest, I believe for a huge casino platform such as stake.com, they wouldn't perform KYC requirements to its users who play at hundreds of dollar range for each session.

Some users reported that there is the personal information needed before anything else. It means slowly but surely, we can now expect that KYC will be implemented at most casinos not just on Stake.

Regardless, I'm prepared for anything. If there's no choice but to comply, what we can do about it.

I will only pass KYC on reputable casinos.

You can certainly do something about it.

And that is simply switching to a casino that has a better track record for supporting anonymity instead of focusing on Stake or any other platform.

You're completely right in the regard that KYC is going to be on the rise overall in the next few years as crypto goes mainstream. But it's up to us the consumers to suppress that.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: seleme on November 06, 2021, 08:26:45 PM
What are some sportbooks that will NEVER ask for KYC
Stake are the best options for me but seriously, there’s no such thing NEVER because those gambling site might require you to fill up KYC especially if your account is suspicious, better to read the Terms of service first so you can be more aware about the rules and prevent any suspicious transactions later on.
Stake is an average bookie and so much slippery, cashout availability problems, etc. I have seen so many cases about the sudden KYC requirement by the Stake team and they refuse to pay if the user doesn't want to pass KYC. So I doubt the OP will be interested to bet on Stake, there are better alternatives if the criteria is KYC-free sports bookies.

The question is not about KYC-free sports bookies but the assurance that sports betting websites will not ask for KYC in the future.

All crypto-bettings sites have a chance to break their terms about no-KYC in the future that's why instead of suggesting to OP some crypto-sites, better give advice that be ready when KYC will be asked.

Even the most popular and reputable sports betting sites can't give an assurance that they will keep their no-KYC policy for long.
The problem is he is not ready to get such an absolute requirement filled up email from the support team of no-KYC sports bookies. Even if the team decided to verify the owner of the account, the user can easily refuse to do so and ask for the deposit back if there is such a term on the user agreement. The risks are there and it is the complete responsibility of the gambler to understand the risks he/she takes. Otherwise, easy money for the gambling platform with useless promises. Just my 2 cents.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: stadus on November 06, 2021, 08:40:36 PM
Even if the team decided to verify the owner of the account, the user can easily refuse to do so and ask for the deposit back if there is such a term on the user agreement. Just my 2 cents.

The user can do that and there's no choice for the gambling site but to return the deposit, however, isn't it unfair for the gamblers that he could not take his win because his account got flagged for suspicious activities just because he cannot comply with the KYC? I mean, they can fabricate stories just to make sure they'll not pay the gamblers and that's their advantage in this game since we choose to play anonymously.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: harizen on November 06, 2021, 11:52:20 PM
The user can do that and there's no choice for the gambling site but to return the deposit, however, isn't it unfair for the gamblers that he could not take his win because his account got flagged for suspicious activities just because he cannot comply with the KYC? I mean, they can fabricate stories just to make sure they'll not pay the gamblers and that's their advantage in this game since we choose to play anonymously.

That will now end up in a public trial to somehow pressure the site. If the site is reputable and has a large community especially here in the forum, there's a chance they won't do that kind of shitty response and treatment to their customers.

I hope so that's not always the case and everything will be settled properly between the site and users.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: panjul07 on November 07, 2021, 12:39:53 PM
Even How those sportsbook mean that they are not requiring KYC as mandatory , but in the end? they may use this KYC to questioned specially those who are winning huge amount as their Terms mostly mentioned this that in any cases that the activity of the gambler is malicious then they will require KYC .
this means one thing that no matter how we wanted to get rid of KYC yet this will come sometimes .
That's not fair and it's a wrong practice, I heard some of that issues on some sportsbooks but the sportsbook I trust, don't require that KYC even if you win big. If they will promote anonymous gambling, then it's a violation of our rights if they'll suddenly require a KYC, it's not within the rules anymore but it's their effort to scam gamblers.

Didn't you notice that almost all sites has a term that they reserve the right to ask you KYC?
Even if you are playing in anonymous gambling site, this term does exist for a reason.
One thing you should aware, KYC is becoming a common thing lately so you should be ready if KYC will be a mandatory thing in all online services in the upcoming years.



Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: KTChampions on November 07, 2021, 02:39:40 PM
Didn't you notice that almost all sites has a term that they reserve the right to ask you KYC?
Even if you are playing in anonymous gambling site, this term does exist for a reason.
One thing you should aware, KYC is becoming a common thing lately so you should be ready if KYC will be a mandatory thing in all online services in the upcoming years.

The meaning of this option is clear: no site wants to receive money from a stolen credit card and subsequently face charges of laundering the stolen funds. The problem is that most casinos/bookmakers use this option only to delay/or completely cancel payments to players who have been successful.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: mv1986 on November 07, 2021, 03:39:39 PM
Didn't you notice that almost all sites has a term that they reserve the right to ask you KYC?
Even if you are playing in anonymous gambling site, this term does exist for a reason.
One thing you should aware, KYC is becoming a common thing lately so you should be ready if KYC will be a mandatory thing in all online services in the upcoming years.

The meaning of this option is clear: no site wants to receive money from a stolen credit card and subsequently face charges of laundering the stolen funds. The problem is that most casinos/bookmakers use this option only to delay/or completely cancel payments to players who have been successful.

Well said!

Generally, if the KYC stuff was meant to protects players' funds, it would be a different story. But all too often it goes without any reason or rationality that you find yourself in an ugly position with a bookie. Sometimes they don't even accept official documents. It's ridiculous, and the reason usually is NOT to protect players' funds, but to delay and delay.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: mindrust on November 07, 2021, 04:34:20 PM
Even How those sportsbook mean that they are not requiring KYC as mandatory , but in the end? they may use this KYC to questioned specially those who are winning huge amount as their Terms mostly mentioned this that in any cases that the activity of the gambler is malicious then they will require KYC .
this means one thing that no matter how we wanted to get rid of KYC yet this will come sometimes .
That's not fair and it's a wrong practice, I heard some of that issues on some sportsbooks but the sportsbook I trust, don't require that KYC even if you win big. If they will promote anonymous gambling, then it's a violation of our rights if they'll suddenly require a KYC, it's not within the rules anymore but it's their effort to scam gamblers.

Didn't you notice that almost all sites has a term that they reserve the right to ask you KYC?
Even if you are playing in anonymous gambling site, this term does exist for a reason.
One thing you should aware, KYC is becoming a common thing lately so you should be ready if KYC will be a mandatory thing in all online services in the upcoming years.

Asking for KYC is one thing, refusing to give the deposits back is another.

The casino may ask for casino alright but if they decide to seize the user money, that would be theft. Some casinos afraid of bad publicity so they give the user funds back but some others don't really care. Luckily, the casino that  run ad campaigns here mostly give the user funds back.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: harizen on November 07, 2021, 08:44:23 PM
The casino may ask for casino alright but if they decide to seize the user money, that would be theft. Some casinos afraid of bad publicity so they give the user funds back but some others don't really care. Luckily, the casino that  run ad campaigns here mostly give the user funds back.

Case-to-case basis. That's why right at the start, gamblers should just use a site that's already reputable and long in the business. Not an assurance that most users will have a smooth transaction as always on that site but at least, we are sure the platform won't do some shitty things regarding the user's deposit money in case got detected using a VPN or any terms that were violated.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: seleme on November 07, 2021, 08:57:50 PM
Even if the team decided to verify the owner of the account, the user can easily refuse to do so and ask for the deposit back if there is such a term on the user agreement. Just my 2 cents.

The user can do that and there's no choice for the gambling site but to return the deposit, however, isn't it unfair for the gamblers that he could not take his win because his account got flagged for suspicious activities just because he cannot comply with the KYC? I mean, they can fabricate stories just to make sure they'll not pay the gamblers and that's their advantage in this game since we choose to play anonymously.
In the end, it depends on how gambling website managers gonna decide depending on the case. It is completely unfair for the user but he has no choice except for waiting for deposit  back. Anoyonyt has a price, such risks are there no matter we like it or not. Maybe the scama accusation or writing negative reviews on gambling review platforms can accelerate the process but the scammers will never send the deposits back if they wanna to do so. We have seen such cases and know what is the final note for gamblers by sports bookie management.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: agustina2 on November 07, 2021, 09:10:48 PM
Even if the team decided to verify the owner of the account, the user can easily refuse to do so and ask for the deposit back if there is such a term on the user agreement. Just my 2 cents.

The user can do that and there's no choice for the gambling site but to return the deposit, however, isn't it unfair for the gamblers that he could not take his win because his account got flagged for suspicious activities just because he cannot comply with the KYC? I mean, they can fabricate stories just to make sure they'll not pay the gamblers and that's their advantage in this game since we choose to play anonymously.
In the end, it depends on how gambling website managers gonna decide depending on the case. It is completely unfair for the user but he has no choice except for waiting for deposit  back. Anoyonyt has a price, such risks are there no matter we like it or not.

What if the terms will be; "If violated our terms, all balance will be forfeited" then who has to blame there? Can we still apply the point that gambling sites should return the deposit?

I understand it's unfair but since we are all lazy to read the Terms of Service, there's no way they will grant our request to have our deposit money back. Like the famous sayings, ignorance of the law excuses no one.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: chaser15 on November 07, 2021, 09:49:44 PM
Perhaps those users are high rollers? Thats why the casino asked for some personal information to those users in the first place. As a small gambler like me who play with tens of dollar as starting balances, I have never faced such kind of thing.

Good for you then but don't expect the same status and experience in the future. The information from some users regarding KYC on gambling sites is now proof that even a reputable and largest site like Stake is now slowly in the centralization phase.

KYC is something that we can't avoid in the future, whatever the platform is.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: KTChampions on November 08, 2021, 09:29:01 AM
The meaning of this option is clear: no site wants to receive money from a stolen credit card and subsequently face charges of laundering the stolen funds. The problem is that most casinos/bookmakers use this option only to delay/or completely cancel payments to players who have been successful.
Well said!

Generally, if the KYC stuff was meant to protects players' funds, it would be a different story. But all too often it goes without any reason or rationality that you find yourself in an ugly position with a bookie. Sometimes they don't even accept official documents. It's ridiculous, and the reason usually is NOT to protect players' funds, but to delay and delay.

Yes, if the casino wants to protect the players' funds, then it must require KYC already at the time of their crediting. But we all know that the question of KYC mainly arises at the moment when the player wants to withdraw money. It seems absurd to me. If everything was fine when you accepted my money and I used it in gambling, then everything should be fine at the moment when I decided to withdraw it.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: madnessteat on November 08, 2021, 09:34:51 AM
Perhaps those users are high rollers? Thats why the casino asked for some personal information to those users in the first place. As a small gambler like me who play with tens of dollar as starting balances, I have never faced such kind of thing.

Good for you then but don't expect the same status and experience in the future. The information from some users regarding KYC on gambling sites is now proof that even a reputable and largest site like Stake is now slowly in the centralization phase.

KYC is something that we can't avoid in the future, whatever the platform is.

I agree because KYC is a mandatory procedure for financial institutions, exchanges, sportsbooks, etc. If some Sportbooks do not require users to pass KYC, it means the regulators have not reached it yet, which will definitely happen in the future. So I would not recommend to use VPN/TOR on Sportbooks which prohibit you to use the platform to avoid possible problems.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: Kelvinid on November 08, 2021, 02:36:28 PM
Perhaps those users are high rollers? Thats why the casino asked for some personal information to those users in the first place. As a small gambler like me who play with tens of dollar as starting balances, I have never faced such kind of thing.

Good for you then but don't expect the same status and experience in the future. The information from some users regarding KYC on gambling sites is now proof that even a reputable and largest site like Stake is now slowly in the centralization phase.

KYC is something that we can't avoid in the future, whatever the platform is.

I agree because KYC is a mandatory procedure for financial institutions, exchanges, sportsbooks, etc. If some Sportbooks do not require users to pass KYC, it means the regulators have not reached it yet, which will definitely happen in the future. So I would not recommend to use VPN/TOR on Sportbooks which prohibit you to use the platform to avoid possible problems.

We trust a casino based on their reputation and I think they don't need to acquire a license in order to operate as long as there's no legal risk on their side. What I'm trying to say is that, if all of them will get the license, that means they'll be regulated and therefore KYC will become mandatory, so what happen to anonymous gambling then?


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: dimonstration on November 08, 2021, 02:43:54 PM
Perhaps those users are high rollers? Thats why the casino asked for some personal information to those users in the first place. As a small gambler like me who play with tens of dollar as starting balances, I have never faced such kind of thing.

Good for you then but don't expect the same status and experience in the future. The information from some users regarding KYC on gambling sites is now proof that even a reputable and largest site like Stake is now slowly in the centralization phase.

KYC is something that we can't avoid in the future, whatever the platform is.

I agree because KYC is a mandatory procedure for financial institutions, exchanges, sportsbooks, etc. If some Sportbooks do not require users to pass KYC, it means the regulators have not reached it yet, which will definitely happen in the future. So I would not recommend to use VPN/TOR on Sportbooks which prohibit you to use the platform to avoid possible problems.

We trust a casino based on their reputation and I think they don't need to acquire a license in order to operate as long as there's no legal risk on their side. What I'm trying to say is that, if all of them will get the license, that means they'll be regulated and therefore KYC will become mandatory, so what happen to anonymous gambling then?

Casino don't get a license just to boost there reputation. It's just happened that people will trust more the Casino it's compliant to the law before they operate. Licence is a requirements for there business permit. They are not allowed to operate on various country if they don't acquire it and they might face lawsuit once the country that they are operating know this. If you want to run a business smoothly as possible, You will need to abide the law and follow there guidelines so that you can freely operate without worries for your business. That's the usual thinking of a legit casino. A shady or not serious casino usually doesn't think about legal matters and leave to the consumers if they trust them or not. Like a mutual trust system only and no string attached.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: YinShuiSiYuan on November 08, 2021, 02:46:32 PM
To be honest, I believe for a huge casino platform such as stake.com, they wouldn't perform KYC requirements to its users who play at hundreds of dollar range for each session.

Some users reported that there is the personal information needed before anything else. It means slowly but surely, we can now expect that KYC will be implemented at most casinos not just on Stake.
Perhaps those users are high rollers? Thats why the casino asked for some personal information to those users in the first place. As a small gambler like me who play with tens of dollar as starting balances, I have never faced such kind of thing.

Unfortunately, governments in many countries are pushing hard to regulate cryptocurrency casinos. One of the requirements is absolute KYC verification of all users. If the casino wants to operate legally in a given country, it will have to adapt or move to a country where such regulations do not yet exist.

We can expect that soon most cryptocurrency casinos will simply have to require KYC verification from all users.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: Fortify on November 08, 2021, 10:17:21 PM
What are some sportbooks that will NEVER ask for KYC

One thing that is worth questioning is - if this company does not ask their customers for the very basics, which is an expectation in almost every country in the world to prevent money laundering, then what other elements might they be trying to skimp or take shortcuts on? Now asking for KYC is not some bullet proof defence that makes a company impenetrable and it could also be abused by all sorts of sketchy people, but looking at the wider picture you should want a company that has basic standards like this. It might just save you from waking up one day and them saying "all your money is gone because we couldn't be bothered to pay for proper security personnel" or "the government of our country seized all funds because we weren't compliant and had no idea what we were doing".


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: blockman on November 08, 2021, 10:35:35 PM
Unfortunately, governments in many countries are pushing hard to regulate cryptocurrency casinos. One of the requirements is absolute KYC verification of all users. If the casino wants to operate legally in a given country, it will have to adapt or move to a country where such regulations do not yet exist.

We can expect that soon most cryptocurrency casinos will simply have to require KYC verification from all users.
We can but hopefully not and they'll only be asking KYC if something's wrong with the user's account and they've found any malicious activity. As long as it's followed like that, there's no need for anyone to worry about passing on KYC. But if they're also aware that they did wrong on their accounts, the user has no choice but to follow and he's aware of it upon reading the rules that have been shown before signing up. A gambler that enjoys playing to a casino won't look at this matter though.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: harizen on November 08, 2021, 11:13:18 PM
We trust a casino based on their reputation and I think they don't need to acquire a license in order to operate as long as there's no legal risk on their side. What I'm trying to say is that, if all of them will get the license, that means they'll be regulated and therefore KYC will become mandatory, so what happen to anonymous gambling then?

Since they are running a business, it's really mandatory that their company should have a license to make everything legit. Maybe that statement of yours can be applied to those people that have already been in crypto for long but gambling sites also target new users to their site. Making their business a complete legit service if they will undergo and comply with the regulation is one of the factors that most new users preferred.

However, no need to think of it now as somehow, we can bet that a mandatory KYC will not happen, at least for now.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: romero121 on November 08, 2021, 11:33:38 PM
We can't get to a conclusion finding a gambling platform that'll never ask for kyc. With time there'll be changes in the terms. Based on the same the platforms will request to fulfill the kyc. Even today we've got a new addition of cryptocurrency accepted gambling platform to our forum with no KYC. The same doesn't assure with the service to continue without kyc forever.

Nowadays most of the gambling platforms request to fulfill KYC. This is mainly done to restrict people's participation from certain countries that'll affect the functioning of the gambling platforms.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: goinmerry on November 08, 2021, 11:48:17 PM
To be honest, I believe for a huge casino platform such as stake.com, they wouldn't perform KYC requirements to its users who play at hundreds of dollar range for each session.

Some users reported that there is the personal information needed before anything else. It means slowly but surely, we can now expect that KYC will be implemented at most casinos not just on Stake.
Perhaps those users are high rollers? Thats why the casino asked for some personal information to those users in the first place. As a small gambler like me who play with tens of dollar as starting balances, I have never faced such kind of thing.

Unfortunately, governments in many countries are pushing hard to regulate cryptocurrency casinos. One of the requirements is absolute KYC verification of all users. If the casino wants to operate legally in a given country, it will have to adapt or move to a country where such regulations do not yet exist.

We can expect that soon most cryptocurrency casinos will simply have to require KYC verification from all users.

They are regulating cryptos because they can't track the transactions in crypto-fraud. Even the gambling site owners themselves can't do anything if one of their customers complain about hacks and will just say sorry to the customer. In the case of KYC, they will somehow know where the funds will end up as everything is under monitor.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: nfl nerd on November 09, 2021, 02:08:40 AM
Stake is good for me for nfl and parlays

Nitro is legit and wont jack you

Never played with sportsbet but they have a big following, really dont think they do the kyc


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: rodskee on November 09, 2021, 03:35:06 AM
To be honest, I believe for a huge casino platform such as stake.com, they wouldn't perform KYC requirements to its users who play at hundreds of dollar range for each session.

Some users reported that there is the personal information needed before anything else. It means slowly but surely, we can now expect that KYC will be implemented at most casinos not just on Stake.
Perhaps those users are high rollers? Thats why the casino asked for some personal information to those users in the first place. As a small gambler like me who play with tens of dollar as starting balances, I have never faced such kind of thing.

Unfortunately, governments in many countries are pushing hard to regulate cryptocurrency casinos. One of the requirements is absolute KYC verification of all users. If the casino wants to operate legally in a given country, it will have to adapt or move to a country where such regulations do not yet exist.

We can expect that soon most cryptocurrency casinos will simply have to require KYC verification from all users.
Because casino sites had been used in the past and even now as terminal to take and spread money around the world in which a clear behavior of Money Laundering .

We are just being hurt because we as legit gambler and does not act in any illegal matter are also being affected by this regulations in which taking our ways and reason why we are here in crypto to Hide and protect our characters .

Now this KYC obligatory is making us normal in dealings like every place where we need to fill up about our personality.

But admit it or not, in the next months or Years all crypto casinos will be having this Requirements and no one will scape from that.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: Natalim on November 09, 2021, 12:11:18 PM
Stake is good for me for nfl and parlays

Nitro is legit and wont jack you

Never played with sportsbet but they have a big following, really dont think they do the kyc


All the sportsbooks you've mentioned are good based on my experience.

My first sportsbook was Nitrogensports, then sportsbet, and stake., I'm actively playing with these two sites along with some of my favorites, and thus far, I'm never bothered by any KYC requirement even though I won a decent amount sometimes.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: KTChampions on November 09, 2021, 05:40:53 PM
Casino don't get a license just to boost there reputation. It's just happened that people will trust more the Casino it's compliant to the law before they operate. Licence is a requirements for there business permit. They are not allowed to operate on various country if they don't acquire it and they might face lawsuit once the country that they are operating know this. If you want to run a business smoothly as possible, You will need to abide the law and follow there guidelines so that you can freely operate without worries for your business. That's the usual thinking of a legit casino. A shady or not serious casino usually doesn't think about legal matters and leave to the consumers if they trust them or not. Like a mutual trust system only and no string attached.

This is debatable. If a casino has a license from some normal jurisdiction, and not from banana islands, then this indicates that it operates in the legal field of some serious country and this is a very significant plus to the reputation. For example, if a casino has a license from the United States, then I will treat it with increased confidence because it is a harsh jurisdiction and hardly anyone wants to break the laws in it.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: blockman on November 09, 2021, 08:49:54 PM
Stake is good for me for nfl and parlays

Nitro is legit and wont jack you

Never played with sportsbet but they have a big following, really dont think they do the kyc


All the sportsbooks you've mentioned are good based on my experience.

My first sportsbook was Nitrogensports, then sportsbet, and stake., I'm actively playing with these two sites along with some of my favorites, and thus far, I'm never bothered by any KYC requirement even though I won a decent amount sometimes.
On the other hand, there are some bad reviews about nitrogensports if you'll look at their trust rating. That has lessened their popularity but before, they're really popular.
As long as you do good and there's no other thing that you do that violates them with your account, you're up and nothing to worry about such.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: South Park on November 09, 2021, 09:14:06 PM
To be honest, I believe for a huge casino platform such as stake.com, they wouldn't perform KYC requirements to its users who play at hundreds of dollar range for each session.

Some users reported that there is the personal information needed before anything else. It means slowly but surely, we can now expect that KYC will be implemented at most casinos not just on Stake.
Perhaps those users are high rollers? Thats why the casino asked for some personal information to those users in the first place. As a small gambler like me who play with tens of dollar as starting balances, I have never faced such kind of thing.

Unfortunately, governments in many countries are pushing hard to regulate cryptocurrency casinos. One of the requirements is absolute KYC verification of all users. If the casino wants to operate legally in a given country, it will have to adapt or move to a country where such regulations do not yet exist.

We can expect that soon most cryptocurrency casinos will simply have to require KYC verification from all users.
We know this is something that governments want to do however we are bound to see innovation in that field as well, after all the concept of decentralization can be applied to casinos as well and while they are not that popular now I am sure that as those regulations keep advancing many casino owners will decide to implement a decentralized casino as the desire of many users to gamble and do so without going through KYC will still be big enough to justify creating a casino like that.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: paxmao on November 09, 2021, 09:37:05 PM
Respect, trust and good feeling about books come from either being legally regulated entities which are supervised and quite obliged to have records etc, and that comes with requirements such as KYC or from many years working successfully and without complaints from customers. There must be good reasons why you want a no KYC but that is going to come with strings attached in the jurisdiction, reputation or trust in the company.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: stomachgrowls on November 09, 2021, 09:44:54 PM
What are some sportbooks that will NEVER ask for KYC
Dont know if the list was updated or not then you could take a look and made out some consideration.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5040737.0
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5319144.0

For me based up on my experience then.

Sportsbet.io
Playbetr
Stake

These are the bookies that i do have experience on playing on for
several years of doing gambling.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: hello_good_sir on November 12, 2021, 11:50:27 PM
Unfortunately, governments in many countries are pushing hard to regulate cryptocurrency casinos. One of the requirements is absolute KYC verification of all users. If the casino wants to operate legally in a given country, it will have to adapt or move to a country where such regulations do not yet exist.

We can expect that soon most cryptocurrency casinos will simply have to require KYC verification from all users.

I don't think so.

There will always be unregulated casinos that are operating that will attract more attention from players which makes them survive. Until they grow out of the phase where they can just get away with having no KYC.

If you play at sportsbooks like Stake though, they have demonstrated a history of KYC which is dangerous if you can't commit to it.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: alegotardo on November 13, 2021, 12:05:56 AM
Unfortunately, governments in many countries are pushing hard to regulate cryptocurrency casinos. One of the requirements is absolute KYC verification of all users. If the casino wants to operate legally in a given country, it will have to adapt or move to a country where such regulations do not yet exist.

We can expect that soon most cryptocurrency casinos will simply have to require KYC verification from all users.

I doubt all the good casinos are demanding KYC on account of compliance with government laws.
We are talking about a niche market that operates 100% in the digital environment and using cryptocurrencies, what are the reasons that prevent a casino from moving from one country to another?
If a certain country creates very strict laws that make it difficult to do business, they will certainly change to one that has more lenient laws.
That simple


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: ralle14 on November 13, 2021, 12:51:20 AM
I doubt all the good casinos are demanding KYC on account of compliance with government laws.
We are talking about a niche market that operates 100% in the digital environment and using cryptocurrencies, what are the reasons that prevent a casino from moving from one country to another?
If a certain country creates very strict laws that make it difficult to do business, they will certainly change to one that has more lenient laws.
That simple
It's possible but unlikely for now since most of the crypto casinos are based on Curacao and they have one of the least strict rules when it comes to KYC. Even if they are strict they can still make bank as most of the good casinos we know usually have a big player base it just depends on how their community would react to it as other fiat casinos are thriving regardless of their KYC registration. They could move if they want to but it's going to be a hassle on their part though.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: coinism on November 13, 2021, 05:31:23 AM

Typically, most sports bookies do not require KYC unless you do something wrong or shady, such as suspected cheating or money laundering... But, regardless of KYC, you should always choose gambling websites that have a good reputation.


Those who don't ask for kyc are themselves shaddy and can rip you from your money. Bookies that have good reputation always or in majority of cases ask for KYC. I personally don't like sport's book that don't do kyc. How can they be certain about the user?


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: KTChampions on November 13, 2021, 06:34:26 AM
Respect, trust and good feeling about books come from either being legally regulated entities which are supervised and quite obliged to have records etc, and that comes with requirements such as KYC or from many years working successfully and without complaints from customers. There must be good reasons why you want a no KYC but that is going to come with strings attached in the jurisdiction, reputation or trust in the company.

There are basically two reasons to avoid KYC:
1.) Taxes. Some gamblers do not want to pay them in principle, and some run away from the laws of their countries with insane tax rates. I understand both of these positions.
2.) Bypassing the bans of states that think they know better than you what you can and cannot. In many places gambling is prohibited, so people from such jurisdictions are looking for ways to satisfy their desires.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: kingangel on November 13, 2021, 07:27:15 AM
I would suspect any book that does not really as you a few questions, since something that sit outside regulations means that other legal matters, such as paying you or letting you withdraw money may also be taken as a ad-hoc rather than something you can take for granted. I am of course speaking about the money laundering regulations and such. Only a book that has been around for years could do the trick by replacing guarantees with reputation.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: Oshosondy on November 13, 2021, 08:32:23 AM
There are basically two reasons to avoid KYC:
1.) Taxes. Some gamblers do not want to pay them in principle, and some run away from the laws of their countries with insane tax rates. I understand both of these positions.
2.) Bypassing the bans of states that think they know better than you what you can and cannot. In many places gambling is prohibited, so people from such jurisdictions are looking for ways to satisfy their desires.
If a gambler is avoiding kyc because he is trying to avoid taxes, that is very wrong, it is done in a way if someone is losing and gain but not up to what he lost, no tax will be paid at all. But well if someone lose and not gain, the government has nothing to pay in return, this is another reason how the world is not balanced.

These are the two reasons why people do not like kyc, but it is not only the two reasons, some people just do not like kyc because of privacy reasons which is really worth it.



Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: HUSTLER on November 13, 2021, 08:48:41 AM
There are basically two reasons to avoid KYC:
1.) Taxes. Some gamblers do not want to pay them in principle, and some run away from the laws of their countries with insane tax rates. I understand both of these positions.
2.) Bypassing the bans of states that think they know better than you what you can and cannot. In many places gambling is prohibited, so people from such jurisdictions are looking for ways to satisfy their desires.
If a gambler is avoiding kyc because he is trying to avoid taxes, that is very wrong, it is done in a way if someone is losing and gain but not up to what he lost, no tax will be paid at all. But well if someone lose and not gain, the government has nothing to pay in return, this is another reason how the world is not balanced.

These are the two reasons why people do not like kyc, but it is not only the two reasons, some people just do not like kyc because of privacy reasons which is really worth it.


Yes privacy might me the main reason that people dont want to do kyc and dont want to share their personal details with them. Another reason can be that people are bit lazy to complete all the kyc requirements as this happens with me as well but exchanges now days dont withdraw money without the KYC so its becomes mandatory to complete it.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: Peanutswar on November 13, 2021, 08:58:49 AM
There are basically two reasons to avoid KYC:
1.) Taxes. Some gamblers do not want to pay them in principle, and some run away from the laws of their countries with insane tax rates. I understand both of these positions.
2.) Bypassing the bans of states that think they know better than you what you can and cannot. In many places gambling is prohibited, so people from such jurisdictions are looking for ways to satisfy their desires.
If a gambler is avoiding kyc because he is trying to avoid taxes, that is very wrong, it is done in a way if someone is losing and gain but not up to what he lost, no tax will be paid at all. But well if someone lose and not gain, the government has nothing to pay in return, this is another reason how the world is not balanced.

These are the two reasons why people do not like kyc, but it is not only the two reasons, some people just do not like kyc because of privacy reasons which is really worth it.



It depends on the country if they have a taxes regarding with the crypto gambling some of the people want to keep anonymously just to avoid having names on a platform no one wants to reveal their identity just to play gambling there are a lot of platform doesn't have a KYC and some of them are just optional. Mostly having a KYC is those platform who has a large number of players and people who makes a withdrawal with a large amount and they don't want to have any kind of illegal activity to their platform so they makes another layer of security which is KYC. The user has a the rights to gamble with KYC or not.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: KTChampions on November 13, 2021, 11:03:18 AM
There are basically two reasons to avoid KYC:
1.) Taxes. Some gamblers do not want to pay them in principle, and some run away from the laws of their countries with insane tax rates. I understand both of these positions.
2.) Bypassing the bans of states that think they know better than you what you can and cannot. In many places gambling is prohibited, so people from such jurisdictions are looking for ways to satisfy their desires.
If a gambler is avoiding kyc because he is trying to avoid taxes, that is very wrong, it is done in a way if someone is losing and gain but not up to what he lost, no tax will be paid at all. But well if someone lose and not gain, the government has nothing to pay in return, this is another reason how the world is not balanced.

These are the two reasons why people do not like kyc, but it is not only the two reasons, some people just do not like kyc because of privacy reasons which is really worth it.

And why is it wrong? How many people do you know who regularly win more than they lose? If there are such people, then perhaps they should pay taxes because in fact they are engaged in a profitable business. But how many of these people are there? And an ordinary person who has always (on average) lost, having won big once must pay tax - does this seem right to you? It seems to me that it is enough that the tax is paid by those who are always in the black - the casino.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: Oshosondy on November 13, 2021, 01:13:37 PM
It seems to me that it is enough that the tax is paid by those who are always in the black - the casino.
The government will always look for means to earn more and more from citizen than most countries even do not care about there citizens individually. I too will go with your opinion about this, I believe most people that are gambling are losing, that is why betting companies are always on the rise, they always grow and growing faster. The government can better just tax the betting companies instead of the citizens. But I guess that it is possible the governments are also making use of the tax to discourage people from gambling, but I am also thinking I am 90% not right about it.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: TopT3ns on November 13, 2021, 06:28:01 PM
It seems to me that it is enough that the tax is paid by those who are always in the black - the casino.
The government will always look for means to earn more and more from citizen than most countries even do not care about there citizens individually. I too will go with your opinion about this, I believe most people that are gambling are losing, that is why betting companies are always on the rise, they always grow and growing faster. The government can better just tax the betting companies instead of the citizens. But I guess that it is possible the governments are also making use of the tax to discourage people from gambling, but I am also thinking I am 90% not right about it.
Depend which country and gambling site will give different rule each other country, have some country not allowed for their citizen join on gambling site this why need KYC, but I think is not good ideas if try KYC for gambling site. Many gamble want to hidden their identity and never want publish with their document, better looking new site support bigger fund deposit and withdraw without KYC.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: goku19 on November 13, 2021, 06:44:50 PM
If you gambling in a trustable and well reputed gambling site I dont think there is any thing wrong to complete the KYC process. Because the exchange which dont ask kyc these days bring some doubt in my mind as some thing might not be good with that site.
May be at start they dont ask kyc and later when you want to withdraw they will ask and at that time no option would be left.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: KTChampions on November 13, 2021, 06:56:24 PM
It seems to me that it is enough that the tax is paid by those who are always in the black - the casino.
The government will always look for means to earn more and more from citizen than most countries even do not care about there citizens individually. I too will go with your opinion about this, I believe most people that are gambling are losing, that is why betting companies are always on the rise, they always grow and growing faster. The government can better just tax the betting companies instead of the citizens. But I guess that it is possible the governments are also making use of the tax to discourage people from gambling, but I am also thinking I am 90% not right about it.

The only purpose that can be more or less adequate when taxing winnings is to prevent money laundering through it. It looks logical because if there is no tax any criminal can legalize money claiming that he won it, but even this I consider a false reason for taxation. First, why should honest citizens suffer? Second, the tax police should investigate evasion schemes and not punish everyone indiscriminately.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: og kush420 on November 13, 2021, 08:19:38 PM

The only purpose that can be more or less adequate when taxing winnings is to prevent money laundering through it. It looks logical because if there is no tax any criminal can legalize money claiming that he won it, but even this I consider a false reason for taxation. First, why should honest citizens suffer? Second, the tax police should investigate evasion schemes and not punish everyone indiscriminately.

These days governments are doing legislation's around things that benefit them under the name of money laundering, terror financing etc. AFAIK only citizens of countries where gambling is banned doesn't want to undergo KYC, other than that there is no reason to avoid KYC. If you are not doing anything wrong and you are on trustworthy platform that doesn't sell your info just do KYC.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: nakamura12 on November 13, 2021, 08:55:55 PM
Just go to a legit, trusted, reputable sportsbook and complete KYC then you won't have problem with it anymore. About your personal details, it is safe if you ask me. It won't be a good choice to destroy their reputation with just one problem. If you are on a country that gambling is banned then you'll be having hard time to find one.


Title: Re: NO KYC Sportbooks?
Post by: Distinctin on November 13, 2021, 09:20:29 PM
If you are on a country that gambling is banned then you'll be having hard time to find one.

You'll still probably find a gambling site to play but those gambling sites only that are not registered, and that means you are taking the risk as they could just disappear with your money. however, if you don't want to take that risk, just don't gamble at all, maybe dedicate your time in investing or learning how to trade, that way you still have a chance to be profitable in crypto.