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Title: Documentary 'Finding Satoshi' will investigate the origins of Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: mynonce on December 06, 2021, 09:00:06 PM
https://variety.com/2021/film/news/bitcoin-documentary-finding-satoshi-matthew-miele-1235125648/ (https://variety.com/2021/film/news/bitcoin-documentary-finding-satoshi-matthew-miele-1235125648/)

'A new documentary is in the works exploring the mysterious founder of Bitcoin and the larger state of cryptocurrency.

Director Matthew Miele (“Always at the Carlyle,” “Quixotic Endeavors”) will helm the project, titled “Finding Satoshi.” The film will investigate the origins of Satoshi Nakamoto, the pseudonymous creator of Bitcoin, whose identity and invention remains secret.'

https://thelatch.com.au/who-is-satoshi-nakamoto-bitcoin-documentary/ (https://thelatch.com.au/who-is-satoshi-nakamoto-bitcoin-documentary/)

'Perhaps all will finally be revealed when Finding Satoshi finally lands on our screens.'



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found another upcoming documentary


https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8843046/ (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8843046/)

The Search for Satoshi

From the Writer/Director of Banking on Bitcoin (2016), comes a new documentary diving deeper into the world of Bitcoin and Cryptocurrency.



Title: Re: Documentary 'Finding Satoshi' will investigate the origins of Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: TheNineClub on December 06, 2021, 09:08:28 PM
I doubt they would be able to keep this kind of news under wraps as the primary investigations are probably done by this point and the footage will more or less be a follow-up on those investigations. It will probably follow through with some possible suspects with some drama thrown in. Still a good watch IMHO.


Title: Re: Documentary 'Finding Satoshi' will investigate the origins of Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: gmaxwell on December 06, 2021, 09:48:03 PM
They didn't contact any of the people who actually worked with Satoshi... so it sounds like it'll be low quality.  Maybe even a paid piece to promote one of the impersonators.


Title: Re: Documentary 'Finding Satoshi' will investigate the origins of Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: Bitcoin_Arena on December 06, 2021, 10:09:03 PM
Why should we care about who satoshi is today?

The mere fact that Bitcoin has been doing well and it's adoption has been improving for over a decade without anyone having any clue who the Bitcoin creator was, is more than enough to show that the Bitcoin community just doing fine with the status quo.

What intrigues me is the malicious actors who have no interest in Bitcoin and created their under performing shitcoins are more concerned about trying to take credit for being the creators of bitcoin, yet they have their forgotten shitcoins to run  ???

I wouldn't be surprised if the Documentary is another one of Faketoshi's plots.


Title: Re: Documentary 'Finding Satoshi' will investigate the origins of Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: kaya11 on December 06, 2021, 10:16:04 PM
Better to keep the founder anonymous if I am to be asked. I wouldn't invest in BTC anymore knowing he is still alive and got the most of the wealth all by himself. So it is better be like this and those coins should just be ignored and forgotten and move on. There would be just another one pretending to be Satoshi at the end of the documentary and that adds up to the list.


Title: Re: Documentary 'Finding Satoshi' will investigate the origins of Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: carlfebz2 on December 06, 2021, 10:22:55 PM
Why should we care about who satoshi is today?

Always been like this on where they dont really stop on finding the creator or the ones who do make out this revolutionary and we have seen lots of faketoshi around and do we really believe that government isnt making out some research in quiet phase? For sure they had been doing this
in silent.

This would be a never ending hunt as long he doesnt exposed up his real identity then people or the community would  really be having those questions
in mind.

Our curiosity will really follow us up into certain extent on where we do believe that we cant able to be done.


Title: Re: Documentary 'Finding Satoshi' will investigate the origins of Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: mynonce on December 06, 2021, 11:11:52 PM
found another upcoming documentary


https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8843046/

The Search for Satoshi

From the Writer/Director of Banking on Bitcoin (2016), comes a new documentary diving deeper into the world of Bitcoin and Cryptocurrency.


Title: Re: Documentary 'Finding Satoshi' will investigate the origins of Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: Hydrogen on December 06, 2021, 11:58:45 PM
It all comes down to sources of funding for documentaries. Movie making is an expensive business, which can be prone to certain conflicts of interest.

It would be nice if everyone who made a documentary did so purely based on a motivation to publish the truth. The harsh reality of it is, there is often much more money thrown at people for publishing lies, than there is for those interested in putting the truth or facts out there. So the market can be flawed in ways. Although there definitely are some independent film makers out there who are more motivated by moral concerns than monetary ones.


Title: Re: Documentary 'Finding Satoshi' will investigate the origins of Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: mynonce on December 07, 2021, 12:40:29 AM
It all comes down to sources of funding for documentaries.
No funding will be big enough, if you can sign a message with the right private key.


Title: Re: Documentary 'Finding Satoshi' will investigate the origins of Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: gmaxwell on December 07, 2021, 01:31:52 AM
Although there definitely are some independent film makers out there who are more motivated by moral concerns than monetary ones.

Even then: Garbage in, Garbage out.  The film maker might be trying to do an honest job, but if they're too thoroughly surrounded by disinformation they just may never encounter the truth.


Title: Re: Documentary 'Finding Satoshi' will investigate the origins of Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: Fundamentals Of on December 07, 2021, 01:45:36 AM
Nothing will be revealed after Finding Satoshi is shown on our screens but more and more speculations. But I still think this is net positive for Bitcoin. The more movies, documentaries, series, etc making mention or giving focus on either Bitcoin, Satoshi, cryptocurrency, blockchain, etc the more Bitcoin is promoted and marketed. The more Bitcoin is heard or read the more people get curious about it. Curiosity will lead them to ask about Bitcoin. The moment they learn about the basics of Bitcoin could be the moment they are attracted to it.


Title: Re: Documentary 'Finding Satoshi' will investigate the origins of Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: worle1bm on December 07, 2021, 05:09:16 AM
It all comes down to sources of funding for documentaries. Movie making is an expensive business, which can be prone to certain conflicts of interest.

It would be nice if everyone who made a documentary did so purely based on a motivation to publish the truth. The harsh reality of it is, there is often much more money thrown at people for publishing lies, than there is for those interested in putting the truth or facts out there. So the market can be flawed in ways. Although there definitely are some independent film makers out there who are more motivated by moral concerns than monetary ones.
The fact is people are interested in something interesting and they are not familiar with seeing the reality as movie makers always put up fictional characters and this is what they will be doing in this documentary so this is not appropriate at all.If you want to know the reality we need to go back to the that time and show some facts that happened in reality but they will be showing all according to their preferences.


Title: Re: Documentary 'Finding Satoshi' will investigate the origins of Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: hd49728 on December 07, 2021, 06:08:56 AM
Another topic about satoshi and did authors do research and read some of topics or articles about satoshi?

I gathered every Satoshi Nakamoto thread. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5271796.0)
Satoshi Nakamoto Institute's literature (https://nakamotoinstitute.org/literature/) and research (https://nakamotoinstitute.org/research/)

Finding satoshi is not important because Bitcoin is pioneer cryptocurrency for decentralization so a decision to leave community and stay anonymously of satoshi is very great. It matches with decentralization core idea of Bitcoin.


Title: Re: Documentary 'Finding Satoshi' will investigate the origins of Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: slaman29 on December 07, 2021, 11:42:51 AM
Another topic about satoshi and did authors do research and read some of topics or articles about satoshi?

I gathered every Satoshi Nakamoto thread. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5271796.0)
Satoshi Nakamoto Institute's literature (https://nakamotoinstitute.org/literature/) and research (https://nakamotoinstitute.org/research/)

Finding satoshi is not important because Bitcoin is pioneer cryptocurrency for decentralization so a decision to leave community and stay anonymously of satoshi is very great. It matches with decentralization core idea of Bitcoin.

I think I also commented before on one of these satoshi threads that actually yes, his identity and locating him or at least shedding light on his whereabouts, this is actually important but only for a sociologist and anthropologist (or crypto anthropology anyway). We cannot deny the value of finding him in this context.

But as to Bitcoin itself, the development and future, of course, Satoshi is now irrelevant.


Title: Re: Documentary 'Finding Satoshi' will investigate the origins of Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: dkbit98 on December 07, 2021, 01:57:10 PM
I would be very careful watching any new Satoshi documentary movies, especially when I see how they are mentioning Craig Faketoshi Wright.
It's possible that Craig could pay someone to make a movie that shows him in some positive light, after his last case he now has to pay $100 million to W&K.
BSV supporters are now claiming this is the proof he is Satoshi  ::)
More info:
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/12/06/miami-jury-rules-in-favor-of-craig-wright-bitcoin-claimed-inventor.html

CSW statement:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSW3vU5DJHQ


Title: Re: Documentary 'Finding Satoshi' will investigate the origins of Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: Obito on December 07, 2021, 02:23:26 PM
They didn't contact any of the people who actually worked with Satoshi... so it sounds like it'll be low quality.  Maybe even a paid piece to promote one of the impersonators.

Can't blame them, I mean there's producers behind these documentary and may they don't like the idea that they're going to go to the real ones. Definitely someone's got paid but hey if it hooks people then so be it right?


Title: Re: Documentary 'Finding Satoshi' will investigate the origins of Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: Mpamaegbu on December 07, 2021, 02:29:57 PM
They didn't contact any of the people who actually worked with Satoshi...
Yeah, like contacting Martti Malmi (https://www.theverge.com/2015/6/10/8751933/the-shy-college-student-who-helped-build-bitcoin-into-a-global) He's user sirius on this forum, for those who want to check his profile up.

so it sounds like it'll be low quality.  Maybe even a paid piece to promote one of the impersonators.
I'm even wondering what makes anyone think that a Satoshi Nakamoto who remained elusive when Bitcoin was virtually not worth much will want to grant an interview now that it's premium. I don't see that happening. Perhaps those who are organizing the documentary only want to seek popularity for themselves, and nothing more.


Title: Re: Documentary 'Finding Satoshi' will investigate the origins of Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: enhu on December 07, 2021, 02:41:06 PM

Wriht already won the case proving he is Satoshi. The search is over. Of course non of us here beleve it since he cant sign a message to any wallets pressumed to be satoshi's.

Several investivations done but none will ever prove really and whoever may comeout we will always doubt with out signing a message. All these investigation will only be useless.


Title: Re: Documentary 'Finding Satoshi' will investigate the origins of Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: KingsDen on December 07, 2021, 08:49:04 PM
Satoshi Nakamato's identity should be left that way.
No one can uncover it.
Satoshi was able to hide his identity in technology age when it is near impossible to do so.
But just know that Satoshi is here. Satoshi might be reading this my comment, just that we don't know him but he knows himself.
The man we can believe is the man that will start using his bitcointalk account and grant that we meet him physically.
I guess your guess now ;D


Title: Re: Documentary 'Finding Satoshi' will investigate the origins of Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: dimonstration on December 07, 2021, 09:01:54 PM

Wriht already won the case proving he is Satoshi. The search is over. Of course non of us here beleve it since he cant sign a message to any wallets pressumed to be satoshi's.

Several investivations done but none will ever prove really and whoever may comeout we will always doubt with out signing a message. All these investigation will only be useless.

The jury didn't prove that Craig Wright is indeed Satoshi Nakamoto, He just won against Kleiman claims to have a part for Craig Wright Bitcoin. We don't know if this case is all about publicity or not but at the end, Craig Wright still didn't prove that he is Satoshi since he can't access the Bitcoin Wallet until while the person who's claiming wo work with him is already dead. We all know that Craig Wright is doing everything just to promote his SV coin.

Crypto people will never believe unless he provide sign message for that dormant wallet address of Satoshi. Its easy to do that to prove his identity rather than doing crazy things like he was doing right now. He is already a Billionaire and he can easily protect himself from the law using that money if he really possess that money.


Title: Re: Documentary 'Finding Satoshi' will investigate the origins of Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: famososMuertos on December 08, 2021, 01:39:11 AM
The documentary genre has lost its objective in the abuse of exploiting the stories rather than the art of documenting the truth, suspicion or simple facts in a short film.

Obviously they are not all filmmakers and producers, fortunately the genre still maintains quality.

If none of that exists, it is fiction, although they intend to call it documentary, I am sure that one of the main sources consulted, which is this forum, will have no credits, it is impossible to make a documentary about Satoshi and not refer to the forum and add that there are characters ( nick-users) active in this forum that could well provide testimonials and if there is not, at least add as is done in any documentary that certain sources were consulted but no answers were obtained.

I think you have to change "investigate" by script in this case.




Title: Re: Documentary 'Finding Satoshi' will investigate the origins of Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: StarKay on December 08, 2021, 04:30:50 AM
Why should we care about who satoshi is today?

Maybe the real identity of Satoshi is not important to you but I'll say unraveling Satoshi will be a great achievement for anyone that succeeded. The researcher (if successful) will just be as famous as Bitcoin and Satoshi, it will also be good for record purposes.
Although many here doubt the motivation of the documentary but I'll give the researcher a chance as any new discovery will be definitely useful.


Title: Re: Documentary 'Finding Satoshi' will investigate the origins of Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: michellee on December 08, 2021, 10:40:42 AM
I am not sure if they can reveal the true identity of Satoshi Nakamoto since there are no original digital tracing about what he/she/they did before. Even Satoshi is not used social media, although, in 2009, we know that Facebook and Friendster are got attention from people to share many things and as the popularity of social media at that time.

It is hard work for them to contact many people who already communicate with Satoshi and ask many things about Satoshi. Those people really do not know who Satoshi Nakamoto is. I am afraid that they can stir up the whole story and use someone to blow up that person as the real Satoshi and lie to the public about the truth.

But I am curious what will they make with that movie.


Title: Re: Documentary 'Finding Satoshi' will investigate the origins of Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: hd49728 on December 08, 2021, 11:59:15 AM
I think I also commented before on one of these satoshi threads that actually yes, his identity and locating him or at least shedding light on his whereabouts, this is actually important but only for a sociologist and anthropologist (or crypto anthropology anyway). We cannot deny the value of finding him in this context.

But as to Bitcoin itself, the development and future, of course, Satoshi is now irrelevant.
People make research and try to use satoshi name to make fancy stories. It can help them to grow their groups, channels and so on. I don't get in other reasons to find satoshi, if I am not government.

As member of Bitcoin community, I would like to see identity of satoshi being anonymous forever. It is good and best for Bitcoin and for all.

If satoshi is found, Bitcoin will lose its King position in crypto. Bitcoin is an icon and legendary cryptocurrency because of its anonymous founder.


Title: Re: Documentary 'Finding Satoshi' will investigate the origins of Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: xSkylarx on December 08, 2021, 12:03:13 PM
I think I also commented before on one of these satoshi threads that actually yes, his identity and locating him or at least shedding light on his whereabouts, this is actually important but only for a sociologist and anthropologist (or crypto anthropology anyway). We cannot deny the value of finding him in this context.

But as to Bitcoin itself, the development and future, of course, Satoshi is now irrelevant.
People make research and try to use satoshi name to make fancy stories. It can help them to grow their groups, channels and so on. I don't get in other reasons to find satoshi, if I am not government.

As member of Bitcoin community, I would like to see identity of satoshi being anonymous forever. It is good and best for Bitcoin and for all.

Agree. In my opinion, Bitcoin's anonymous identity is the same as in the case of his identity. Because it is extremely difficult to track down or discover the person of interest, I believe he/she has put in a lot of effort to prepare. I believe this documentary will be interesting to watch to see who is the person of interest. I also believe it is safer to keep Satoshi's true identity hidden for security reasons, especially since this is the first time we have heard of him/her. I believe it is best to stick with the Satoshi being anonymous.


Title: Re: Documentary 'Finding Satoshi' will investigate the origins of Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: davis196 on December 08, 2021, 12:11:44 PM
I'm wondering about this documentary actually bringing some new facts and information on the table.
Most likely,the documentary is going to repeat all the info about Satoshi that we already know and spice it up with some conspiracy theories about "Who created Bitcoin?" The crowd loves conspiracy theories...
The producers of this documentary want to capitalize on the increased interest over Bitcoin/blockchain technology.They want viewers and money,they don't want the truth.That's the main problem with "documentaries" like this one.


Title: Re: Documentary 'Finding Satoshi' will investigate the origins of Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: kryptqnick on December 08, 2021, 12:16:45 PM
I think it's a lost cause to look for Satoshi, honestly. I truly don't believe that a documentary can come to the true answer and reveal Satoshi's true identity. I also think it's kind of a wrong thing to do to look for Satoshi and reveal this person in a movie because Satoshi clearly didn't want to be found (unless it's Craig Wright, lol), and this wish should be respected. But what's good is that the movie will bring even more publicity to Bitcoin, Blockchain, and perhaps remind of some key historic events. But I highly doubt there'll be anything new here. At best, they'll summarize all the previous major investigations.


Title: Re: Documentary 'Finding Satoshi' will investigate the origins of Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: Finestream on December 08, 2021, 06:14:28 PM
The name Satoshi Nakamoto really makes other people curious about his/her existence and badly want to know why did he/she vanished. We don't even really know for sure if it's a group of people behind that name. Let's just appreciate his/her/their works and respect what they want rather than disturbing them at all. People really wants privacy so why don't these people accept the fact that neither can uncover who he/she/they are. Let them enjoy and rest at peace guys, we will know if he/she/they will starts to move again or decides to unveil the identity.


Title: Re: Documentary 'Finding Satoshi' will investigate the origins of Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: mynonce on December 08, 2021, 07:48:53 PM
I think you have to change "investigate" by script in this case.

I only quoted the writers.

'Directed by Matthew Miele Finding Satoshi will investigate the origins of Satoshi Nakamoto, the creator of Bitcoin, whose identity and invention remains secret.'
https://thelatch.com.au/who-is-satoshi-nakamoto-bitcoin-documentary/ (https://thelatch.com.au/who-is-satoshi-nakamoto-bitcoin-documentary/)

'The film will investigate the origins of Satoshi Nakamoto'
https://variety.com/2021/film/news/bitcoin-documentary-finding-satoshi-matthew-miele-1235125648/ (https://variety.com/2021/film/news/bitcoin-documentary-finding-satoshi-matthew-miele-1235125648/)


Title: Re: Documentary 'Finding Satoshi' will investigate the origins of Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: slaman29 on December 09, 2021, 07:00:31 AM
But as to Bitcoin itself, the development and future, of course, Satoshi is now irrelevant.
As member of Bitcoin community, I would like to see identity of satoshi being anonymous forever. It is good and best for Bitcoin and for all.

I personally think Satoshi's identity is good the way it is now, anonymous and with no new leads and I also agree it's good and best for Bitcoin, but I still think regardless of what developments happen, it is entirely irrelevant. Look at CW right now celebrating his victory despite being asked to award damages. Even if some lawyer or some court believes he is satoshi, that is not relevant to Bitcoin.

Agree. In my opinion, Bitcoin's anonymous identity is the same as in the case of his identity. Because it is extremely difficult to track down or discover the person of interest, I believe he/she has put in a lot of effort to prepare. I believe this documentary will be interesting to watch to see who is the person of interest. I also believe it is safer to keep Satoshi's true identity hidden for security reasons, especially since this is the first time we have heard of him/her. I believe it is best to stick with the Satoshi being anonymous.

I've no idea what you're trying to say actually... but if I was to be interested in Satoshi I would have to read 100s of emails and documentaries and books. And be nowhere different in terms of what I know. As I said above, this is purely an interest for history and anthropology, but has zero impact on Bitcoin itself.


Title: Re: Documentary 'Finding Satoshi' will investigate the origins of Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: yazher on December 09, 2021, 08:01:51 AM
I doubt they would be able to keep this kind of news under wraps as the primary investigations are probably done by this point and the footage will more or less be a follow-up on those investigations. It will probably follow through with some possible suspects with some drama thrown in. Still a good watch IMHO.

I don't think it's true because before any documentary is being made, we already know the truth behind it that there is no conclusion on what they are seeking because until now, the only information we know about Satoshi is the info he left public long ago and that was the last clue we have and we don't hear anything anymore from him. As for the new claim that new information is being attributed to him these days, that's all hoax or probably someone wanted to steal his identity again by the false claim of other impostors.


Title: Re: Documentary 'Finding Satoshi' will investigate the origins of Satoshi Nakamoto
Post by: Zilon on December 09, 2021, 10:30:38 AM
Hope this doesn't give rise to impersonators and imposters at the end and I just wonder why care much about satoshi's identity. All we need to do more of is study the technology and it's growth in recent years and forget about unraveling the identity of Bitcoin because scammers will love to sieze the opportunity for their malicious attacks