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Title: 1XBIT campaign could be the next longest running campaign even with scam reports
Post by: aioc on December 10, 2021, 02:41:35 PM
The majority of us here don't want this casino to have a campaign here, but the scam here is not moderated I'm surprised that they are already on their 7th month and they are still doing great, the rate is very tempting if you're in the campaign for 7 months and you are a high ranking member that's $400 a month and over $2000 for 7 months and counting.
This is not to hype 1XBIT but many members prefer to lose their reputation for money because they think it's going to be one of the longest-running campaigns.

What's your insight on 1XBIT campaign are they going to be one of the longest-running campaigns.


Ps. I keep this moderated I don't want 1XBIT promoters shilling this casino, they can post here as long as they contributed to the topic and not to defend it.



Title: Re: 1XBIT campaign could be the next longest running campaign even with scam reports
Post by: masulum on December 10, 2021, 03:14:56 PM
In my personal opinion, no matter how long this campaign is run, it will be risky for me personally. If I join, and get negative trust from a DT member, if one day we will offer services according to our skills here, do you think people will believe it or not? I think, most of them will see our trust before choose our services. It's mean, if we get negative trust from a DT member, then prospective clients who are initially interested will choose to look for other candidates.

Then, most of the campaigns in this forum require participants not to get negative trust from DT, if the 1xBit campaign stops, it will be difficult for us to join the campaigns of other managers.

I would prefer not to be tempted by any amount offered by 1xBet,


Title: Re: 1XBIT campaign could be the next longest running campaign even with scam reports
Post by: NeuroticFish on December 10, 2021, 05:31:29 PM
The problem is that people joining there will get tagged and then that will be their only option for signature. This means that 1xbit kinda builds up their own "community" of advertisers.
And since many don't know what red tag is, 1xbit can easily get actual leads/revenue from the signatures.

I find this wrong... Such dishonest businesses should not be allowed to be advertised. But since the scams are not moderated, I don't know whether this would be possible.


Title: Re: 1XBIT campaign could be the next longest running campaign even with scam reports
Post by: acroman08 on December 10, 2021, 05:44:00 PM
This is not to hype 1XBIT but many members prefer to lose their reputation for money because they think it's going to be one of the longest-running campaigns.
It's not that they prefer, they just don't care. also, from what I see, majority who joined the campaign are most likely alts or accounts that already has a negative tag, so they have no reason to be scared from getting another negative tag.as for the thinking that it'll be one of the longest campaign, I don't they do. I mean, an opportunity to earn presented itself and the people who joined just took that opportunity.

What's your insight on 1XBIT campaign are they going to be one of the longest-running campaigns.
Maybe, I mean, They are a big company, if advertising here bring them costumer despite the scam accusations here in the forum, I see no reason for them to stop(as much as I hate to say it)


Title: Re: 1XBIT campaign could be the next longest running campaign even with scam reports
Post by: dothebeats on December 10, 2021, 06:09:19 PM
Members who are continuously posting under the 1XBIT signature would, sooner or later, be red tagged and that's about it. This forum does not enforce policing on scams, and only leave the policing to its community members so as not to get issues on 'censorship' again. Also, at the end of the day, it is the people who will use the platform, and it's up to us, the community, to raise awareness against such a dishonest platform looking to gain quick bucks on unknowing players.


Title: Re: 1XBIT campaign could be the next longest running campaign even with scam reports
Post by: ryzaadit on December 10, 2021, 07:58:09 PM
-snip-
Yes, but...

The campaign is being filled and joined by red tag account, so "DT" member tag the member the accounts is already been tagged by several reason like multi-account and other things as well. So, most of user on this campaign is being filled by non-good member.

Funny things about this campaign, while the the promoted talk about "scam" topic but they're promoted a scam for only money.


Title: Re: 1XBIT campaign could be the next longest running campaign even with scam reports
Post by: robelneo on December 10, 2021, 09:00:54 PM
They have taken the risk of launching a signature campaign, they know that they will be met with negative opinions and get tagged but they are now seven months old and still going on, they just restart their campaign and if there's a big event they launch a signature campaign, they now have exclusive people for their campaign who prefer to risk their reputation and it pays off, they are now accepting tagged members because of promoting 1XBIT, but at least they now screened the participants.
They have the money and they are risk-taker and as long as they are allowed to create and continue to launch a campaign here, we have no choice but to bear them, but of course, still tagged them.


Title: Re: 1XBIT campaign could be the next longest running campaign even with scam reports
Post by: johhnyUA on December 10, 2021, 09:39:57 PM
The problem is that people joining there will get tagged and then that will be their only option for signature. This means that 1xbit kinda builds up their own "community" of advertisers.
And since many don't know what red tag is, 1xbit can easily get actual leads/revenue from the signatures.

They have taken the risk of launching a signature campaign, they know that they will be met with negative opinions and get tagged but they are now seven months old and still going on,

I think that people who agree to promote such scams often have more than one account. Sometimes theymos habbit to "not moderate scams" turns bad for our bitcointalk community (In my opinion). But anyway, what we can do about that?  :-\

Some people are greedy for money. Especially for 400 dollars montly.


Title: Re: 1XBIT campaign could be the next longest running campaign even with scam reports
Post by: DoublerHunter on December 10, 2021, 09:48:37 PM
This means that 1xbit kinda builds up their own "community" of advertisers.
~snip~
^ All of them have a red tag and all of them have a bad reputation and it seems you are right, a community of scammer and fraud, that is they are.
I don't know if they can still have revenue since the promoter has negative feedback under the profile which means they are promoting a very risky gambling casino and the tag was indicated that they are promoting scam casinos. I don't understand if there is a gambler who will visit their site but since they spend that too much amount and I think they have revenue.


Title: Re: 1XBIT campaign could be the next longest running campaign even with scam reports
Post by: Saisher on December 11, 2021, 12:22:45 AM
I hope they are not, they are still at risk to get taken that, the complaints are snowballing and it's been established that 1XBIT is a scam casino sooner or later they will be taken down by the authorities, their promoters have already made money but 1XBIT will have its day one day, we never know if suddenly Theymos made a decision to stop them from promoting here in Bitcointalk.
All we can do is to alert newcomers about their status they targetted newbies in their campaign.


Title: Re: 1XBIT campaign could be the next longest running campaign even with scam reports
Post by: aioc on December 11, 2021, 12:45:45 AM
Members who are continuously posting under the 1XBIT signature would, sooner or later, be red tagged and that's about it. This forum does not enforce policing on scams, and only leave the policing to its community members so as not to get issues on 'censorship' again. Also, at the end of the day, it is the people who will use the platform, and it's up to us, the community, to raise awareness against such a dishonest platform looking to gain quick bucks on unknowing players.

That's true it's become them against us, I'm not personally attacking the character of their participants but their actions, some of them because of the pandemic really need money and they have a hard time getting accepted on other campaigns because there are only a few campaigns that pay with Bitcoin, I don't like participants who blindly defend 1XBIT, they twisted the truth about 1XBIT making them appear as the victim.


Title: Re: 1XBIT campaign could be the next longest running campaign even with scam reports
Post by: bittraffic on December 11, 2021, 03:06:03 AM
The casino will have to try harder to advertise which its campaign will have to last longer for it to get more attention from the lurkers in this forum. If only the internet users will read the scam threads about them, they will not get clients unfortunately not all of them will read and will just click the signatures and play. They will still have clients until they'd scam them each.

In a telegram channel, I remember people are talking about 1xbit buying bitcointalk accounts that were tagged. Maybe, those who joined are already bought.



Title: Re: 1XBIT campaign could be the next longest running campaign even with scam reports
Post by: Obito on December 11, 2021, 03:43:56 AM
If the mods don't take action no matter what and people would still care more about money rather than their dignities then they will probably cement themselves to get that title not to mention that they know how to play the game, they have a self moderated thread that actively deletes warnings from smart people that knows better than to participate in their campaign.


Title: Re: 1XBIT campaign could be the next longest running campaign even with scam reports
Post by: Wexnident on December 11, 2021, 05:12:55 AM
Unless the mods actively try to take action towards this, then ig there's nothing going to happen to both the campaign and the accounts. At most, red tags would be done but that's about it. Maybe there should be something like having x amount of red tags that would put the account into a manual screening by one of the mods? That way they don't have to necessarily review everything but only ones that are bombed with red tags.
The problem is that people joining there will get tagged and then that will be their only option for signature. This means that 1xbit kinda builds up their own "community" of advertisers.
And since many don't know what red tag is, 1xbit can easily get actual leads/revenue from the signatures.

I find this wrong... Such dishonest businesses should not be allowed to be advertised. But since the scams are not moderated, I don't know whether this would be possible.
Well, I mean, even the community managers are acknowledging that they have a pretty bad rep in this forum. Just look at their new campaign related to sports, which was opened last Dec 09. Note on the bottom says that "Negative trust for promoting 1xBit is allowed" like bruh. They're really pushing for the idea that any sort of advertisement is still an advertisement.


Title: Re: 1XBIT campaign could be the next longest running campaign even with scam reports
Post by: Alisha-k on December 11, 2021, 06:09:00 AM
If the mods don't take action no matter what and people would still care more about money rather than their dignities then they will probably cement themselves to get that title not to mention that they know how to play the game, they have a self moderated thread that actively deletes warnings from smart people that knows better than to participate in their campaign.
Most times it's not about the money. Many accusations came up against 1xbit and the made efforts to resolve this issues but weren't given much attention instead many insisted they were scammers and WI forever remain. Personally I joined the campaign to see for myself  how reliable they are and I will say they have been the best campaign and still standing. It's a matter of choice on what one choose to hold on to


Title: Re: 1XBIT campaign could be the next longest running campaign even with scam reports
Post by: Cling18 on December 11, 2021, 06:15:35 AM
Members who are continuously posting under the 1XBIT signature would, sooner or later, be red tagged and that's about it. This forum does not enforce policing on scams, and only leave the policing to its community members so as not to get issues on 'censorship' again. Also, at the end of the day, it is the people who will use the platform, and it's up to us, the community, to raise awareness against such a dishonest platform looking to gain quick bucks on unknowing players.

That's the hard risk that their campaign participants are facing. It will surely affect their accounts negatively though they only want to earn by doing tasks. That's why we should be mindful about what we're joining regardless of the amount that they're going to pay us. It's still about the legitimacy and reputation that we should be checking first.


Title: Re: 1XBIT campaign could be the next longest running campaign even with scam reports
Post by: Oshosondy on December 11, 2021, 07:14:55 AM
but the scam here is not moderated
Scam is not moderated is just a warning to people to be very careful of scammers. But haven't you noticed many scam posts are deleted? They are actually always deleted once it is seen as scam.

I'm surprised that they are already on their 7th month and they are still doing great, the rate is very tempting if you're in the campaign for 7 months and you are a high ranking member that's $400 a month and over $2000 for 7 months and counting.
It is not about the money and there are good campaigns.

What's your insight on 1XBIT campaign are they going to be one of the longest-running campaigns.
Nobody cares, just that anyone that join the campaign may be tagged, just for people to know that the gambling company is risky to be used for betting.


Title: Re: 1XBIT campaign could be the next longest running campaign even with scam reports
Post by: madnessteat on December 11, 2021, 07:37:05 AM
Many people are willing to sell more than just their reputation for money, so I am not at all surprised that so many forum users are willing to participate in a campaign to promote 1XBIT. For these users it does not matter their own reputation as well as the reputation of 1XBIT, let alone the fact that this campaign can cause someone to lose money.


Title: Re: 1XBIT campaign could be the next longest running campaign even with scam reports
Post by: harizen on December 11, 2021, 07:59:21 AM

I doubt they will be able to sustain their campaign for long. And I also don't think their signature campaign is effective providing there are lots of companies sharing some exposures here. Actually, it's only a few times where I encounter some of their users that's why it's not even a threat if they will hold a signature campaign here. They think by spending on campaigns, they will be able to erase their negative feedback here.

I also believe that even a newbie or passerby knows how to select a good gambling site to test on.


Title: Re: 1XBIT campaign could be the next longest running campaign even with scam reports
Post by: swogerino on December 11, 2021, 08:05:30 AM
Most of the users high in ranking like Sr,Hero and Legendary there that are promoting it are already with negative tag which means they already have done something wrong before and most probably won't be accepted in many other campaigns,however this does not justify that they are promoting a scam campaign which is run as they say here in the forum with "blood money" meaning they are getting a share of the money from people getting scammed and robbed in this casino.Other people who join and sell their soul (get red trust) for some money are beginners.I don't think this campaign will last long and I don't think this has been effective either,I see some of the posts of the members of such campaign and they are below average in quality as posts.


Title: Re: 1XBIT campaign could be the next longest running campaign even with scam reports
Post by: KTChampions on December 11, 2021, 08:16:24 AM
I am from Russia and I can say that this damn casino fucked up (a couple of years ago) many YouTube channels and other projects in my country with its advertising. It has always amazed me that people are willing to work with scammers even after the scammers become known. But such is the business - there are people who are ready to trade their reputation. Such questions are not moderated on BTT, so it shouldn't be surprising that these scammers are advertised here. This is a question of reputation and at the moment these scammers (and those who advertise them) are getting an adequate response from the community.


Title: Re: 1XBIT campaign could be the next longest running campaign even with scam reports
Post by: goinmerry on December 11, 2021, 08:39:48 AM
It's already there so let's just hope it won't drag new players to the site. The only one that will benefit from that is the site itself as after the campaign ends, those participants will have a hard time joining a campaign unless it's a bounty campaign.

1Xbit is heavily advertised outside the forum with partnerships as well. Even with that, the Bitcointalk community should stick with their hard actions against 1Xbit and their tagged reputation should stay for long.


Title: Re: 1XBIT campaign could be the next longest running campaign even with scam reports
Post by: NeuroticFish on December 11, 2021, 09:10:45 AM
Well, I mean, even the community managers are acknowledging that they have a pretty bad rep in this forum. Just look at their new campaign related to sports, which was opened last Dec 09. Note on the bottom says that "Negative trust for promoting 1xBit is allowed" like bruh. They're really pushing for the idea that any sort of advertisement is still an advertisement.

You really scared me. From the way you wrote it I understood that a sports campaign accepts red tagged 1xBit promoters.
After quite some search I've seen: it's actually the same company. So yeah, the problem widens to 2 campaigns for the same company.

I don't know if they can still have revenue since the promoter has negative feedback under the profile which means they are promoting a very risky gambling casino and the tag was indicated that they are promoting scam casinos. I don't understand if there is a gambler who will visit their site but since they spend that too much amount and I think they have revenue.

Robots from the search engines don't care if the lead/link comes from red tagged users. The link will go higher in search results.
Many newbies don't know what red tag is.
Trust feedback (tags) are not visible if one is not logged in, hence many won't even see the red tag of the promoters.


Title: Re: 1XBIT campaign could be the next longest running campaign even with scam reports
Post by: coin-investor on December 11, 2021, 02:25:54 PM
Many people are willing to sell more than just their reputation for money, so I am not at all surprised that so many forum users are willing to participate in a campaign to promote 1XBIT. For these users it does not matter their own reputation as well as the reputation of 1XBIT, let alone the fact that this campaign can cause someone to lose money.

These bounty hunters don't care if people are going to lose and have lost money, as long as they get paid for wearing their signature, they think that they lose money because they did not care to research if it's worth playing on 1XBIT, they know that they are promoting scam but it's the obligation of every player to check if the casino has issues.


Title: Re: 1XBIT campaign could be the next longest running campaign even with scam reports
Post by: qwertyup23 on December 11, 2021, 03:24:04 PM
It's already there so let's just hope it won't drag new players to the site. The only one that will benefit from that is the site itself as after the campaign ends, those participants will have a hard time joining a campaign unless it's a bounty campaign.

1Xbit is heavily advertised outside the forum with partnerships as well. Even with that, the Bitcointalk community should stick with their hard actions against 1Xbit and their tagged reputation should stay for long.

I think the only problem with the advertisement of 1XBIT campaign are the boards that do not reveal the trust rating of users. It has that possibility of attracting persons or newbies in the forum given the amount of people they hire for their advertisements.

Fortunately for members here in the forum, almost everyone knows the reputation of 1XBIT as a fraudulent gambling website due to its numerous cases of scams and shenanigans. I just hope that before a person attempts to gamble at that website, he/she must search for its reputation here in the forum as lots of threads have been created against that gambling website.


Title: Re: 1XBIT campaign could be the next longest running campaign even with scam reports
Post by: bitzizzix on December 11, 2021, 04:09:27 PM
I rate those marked in red to participate in the 1Xbit campaign maybe because they have no choice and other reasons may always not be accepted from other leading campaigns, and their biggest mistake is to sacrifice their trust Being bad or red just to get paid and that is greed that will make things worse because it will make it difficult if they want to join other campaigns. because of the rule not to accept that has a red tag.
what I don't understand is, a lot of people try to be careful and keep their reputation from getting red tags, but they don't care about that.
those who marked the red tag for a reason and that's a warning because you are under threat and support scam.


Title: Re: 1XBIT campaign could be the next longest running campaign even with scam reports
Post by: madnessteat on December 11, 2021, 07:19:12 PM
I am from Russia and I can say that this damn casino fucked up (a couple of years ago) many YouTube channels and other projects in my country with its advertising. It has always amazed me that people are willing to work with scammers even after the scammers become known. But such is the business - there are people who are ready to trade their reputation. Such questions are not moderated on BTT, so it shouldn't be surprising that these scammers are advertised here. This is a question of reputation and at the moment these scammers (and those who advertise them) are getting an adequate response from the community.

I can only assume that these people have no other way to make money or rather they do not want to work hard and choose the easy way to make money - the promotion of fraud. The saddest thing is that they do not understand that the money they receive for their activities comes from the pockets of deceived users.


Title: Re: 1XBIT campaign could be the next longest running campaign even with scam reports
Post by: judeafante on December 11, 2021, 09:49:32 PM


I can only assume that these people have no other way to make money or rather they do not want to work hard and choose the easy way to make money - the promotion of fraud. The saddest thing is that they do not understand that the money they receive for their activities comes from the pockets of deceived users.

The rate is just too tempting when 1XBIT is just starting out the bounty campaign, they do not care about the red trust of the applicants, because they knew no members of this forum will join if they required a clean account, now they level up the requirements by only accepting members that have a red trust coming from promoting 1XBIT some are tempted to join risking their reputation hoping that the campaign will last and so far the campaign is still on.


Title: Re: 1XBIT campaign could be the next longest running campaign even with scam reports
Post by: Quidat on December 11, 2021, 10:58:27 PM


I can only assume that these people have no other way to make money or rather they do not want to work hard and choose the easy way to make money - the promotion of fraud. The saddest thing is that they do not understand that the money they receive for their activities comes from the pockets of deceived users.

The rate is just too tempting when 1XBIT is just starting out the bounty campaign, they do not care about the red trust of the applicants, because they knew no members of this forum will join if they required a clean account, now they level up the requirements by only accepting members that have a red trust coming from promoting 1XBIT some are tempted to join risking their reputation hoping that the campaign will last and so far the campaign is still on.
Actually a desperate move made by them as if they do have any choice? They wont able to hook up people who do have clean ratings and of course they would really be targeting or accepting those who do have red trust which it isnt really surprising that they would really be
having no care on what those red tag means as long they could expose off their links and made out some advertisement.
So for people who are tempting to join then you do know the risk.If you do give importance into your account
then better avoid this one.


Title: Re: 1XBIT campaign could be the next longest running campaign even with scam reports
Post by: Sled on December 11, 2021, 11:09:07 PM
I don't know why they never stop promoting their site knowing that it was a scam site. And I am going to believe that no one will be able to use this site if they know (maybe for trials).

Well, anyway, scammers will find a way to continue their doing. So many promotional campaigns are run by the 1XBIT site and nobody even going to stop it or not allow it. I don't know how long they will still exist and do such a thing but it was our discretion now either to use it or not (probably not).



Title: Re: 1XBIT campaign could be the next longest running campaign even with scam reports
Post by: Slow death on December 11, 2021, 11:16:57 PM
It is very sad that this casino is running signature campaign and they refuse to solve customer problems on the contrary the number of accusations and scam is increasing everyday and it is becoming very scary, people complain in thread and do not solve problem from them. now they claim it's the same people who are spamming and falsely accusing their thread, ironic that I suggested they do KYC to customers that they suspect of having multiple accounts, but they refuse


Title: Re: 1XBIT campaign could be the next longest running campaign even with scam reports
Post by: KTChampions on December 12, 2021, 12:11:52 PM
The rate is just too tempting when 1XBIT is just starting out the bounty campaign, they do not care about the red trust of the applicants, because they knew no members of this forum will join if they required a clean account, now they level up the requirements by only accepting members that have a red trust coming from promoting 1XBIT some are tempted to join risking their reputation hoping that the campaign will last and so far the campaign is still on.

A little offtopic: despite the obviousness that this casino is fraudulent and it is advertised by the same forum participants (no reputation/bots/scammers, etc.), judging by the fact that the advertising campaign continues, it gives a conversion. This is rather illogical, but these are the facts: only noise is important.


Title: Re: 1XBIT campaign could be the next longest running campaign even with scam reports
Post by: Reid on December 12, 2021, 12:32:39 PM
It will all be okay once they clean up their mess. It's been 7 months, and still we see gamblers telling their experiences on how bad the service is.
I don't have anything against them but we all want our money to be in safe hands. We want to deposit and withdraw our money anytime we want it to with complete numbers.
It's not just about the signatures that we should look at, it's what's within. They can go 2 years running this campaign but what about the unsolved history regarding the service itself? Should it all be sugarcoat by on time payment in signature advertising?


Title: Re: 1XBIT campaign could be the next longest running campaign even with scam reports
Post by: madnessteat on December 12, 2021, 01:44:55 PM


I can only assume that these people have no other way to make money or rather they do not want to work hard and choose the easy way to make money - the promotion of fraud. The saddest thing is that they do not understand that the money they receive for their activities comes from the pockets of deceived users.

The rate is just too tempting when 1XBIT is just starting out the bounty campaign, they do not care about the red trust of the applicants, because they knew no members of this forum will join if they required a clean account, now they level up the requirements by only accepting members that have a red trust coming from promoting 1XBIT some are tempted to join risking their reputation hoping that the campaign will last and so far the campaign is still on.

Sooner or later this campaign will end and they will stop receiving rewards, but the negative feedback will most likely stay with them for the duration of their time on the forum. Of course, there are other campaigns that accept users with negative feedbacks, but they are very few. So for those who want to make money with signatures I would recommend from the very beginning to think about their trust.


Title: Re: 1XBIT campaign could be the next longest running campaign even with scam reports
Post by: Beparanf on December 12, 2021, 02:41:28 PM
They don't get that much customer in the forum since they are well known shady casino here. I don't know what's success of the campaign that OP mention on his statement but I think the campaign is a failure because there target is an audience here while nobody cares about them here. They are just burning money for nothing. Most of there new players are outside the forum. Eventually this scam shit campaign will just end when they realize that they are paying to bought account that shit posting for them in exchange for there money.


Title: Re: 1XBIT campaign could be the next longest running campaign even with scam reports
Post by: pinggoki on December 12, 2021, 02:49:47 PM
They don't get that much customer in the forum since they are well known shady casino here. I don't know what's success of the campaign that OP mention on his statement but I think the campaign is a failure because there target is an audience here while nobody cares about them here. They are just burning money for nothing. Most of there new players are outside the forum. Eventually this scam shit campaign will just end when they realize that they are paying to bought account that shit posting for them in exchange for there money.
The success that OP says is probably about how they're still in this forum despite the scorn of many members about how this scamming gambling site is still in this forum. I wouldn't say that they're burning money for nothing, they have other subsidiary sites and at the same time this forum isn't that well known so it's possible that they have other players that don't know how much of a scum they are.


Title: Re: 1XBIT campaign could be the next longest running campaign even with scam reports
Post by: fortunecrypto on December 12, 2021, 03:08:03 PM
they have other subsidiary sites and at the same time this forum isn't that well known so it's possible that they have other players that don't know how much of a scum they are.

Not that well known? Please check the Alexa ranking https://www.alexa.com/siteinfo/bitcointalk.org and if it's not that popular forum, gambling sites will not spend thousands of dollars worth of Bitcoin just to pay their signature participants and buy advertising space here, Bitcointalk is the number one forum about Cryptocurrency and that includes Crypto casinos, people are not doing research, that is why they got scam.


Title: Re: 1XBIT campaign could be the next longest running campaign even with scam reports
Post by: dustboy on December 12, 2021, 03:54:15 PM
Bitcointalk is the biggest cryptocurrency forum, it is reasonable if a site with huge budget want to spend much money to advertise in this forum. Although the site is known as a scam, the site do not care as long as their advertisement can be seen not only by forum members but also by other people outside the forum.

Many forum members do not care about the negative trust because of money. As long as they can earn some money, they will do participate to advertise the casino. There is no way to stop them except they decide to stop.


Title: Re: 1XBIT campaign could be the next longest running campaign even with scam reports
Post by: robelneo on December 12, 2021, 10:02:24 PM


Many forum members do not care about the negative trust because of money. As long as they can earn some money, they will do participate to advertise the casino. There is no way to stop them except they decide to stop.

I don't judge all the participants on how they post, but some of their posts are spam, I trust the judgment of our moderators that they will take care of this,  some participants just let go of their trust rating for a good payout, the altcoin bounty campaign is not good you'll have to wait several months to get your payout and you are lucky if tokens that you received have value in the market, so they take the risk, a three to five months campaign for them is already worth the risk, especially for high ranked members.


Title: Re: 1XBIT campaign could be the next longest running campaign even with scam reports
Post by: romero121 on December 12, 2021, 10:24:13 PM
This isn't the only place on which they're marketing. Surely the team will be having more other marketing programs run on different platforms. We don't Know how far things were working for them, because throughout the forum it has got a negative opinion. They could've resolved every scam against them and started the campaign, then it could've gained good reputation and trust of the people. Now it gives an overview, this is the same platform as the past.

After the merit system it is really hard to get a slot into campaigns and that's the major reason why the top ranked users on that campaign have taken the risk.


Title: Re: 1XBIT campaign could be the next longest running campaign even with scam reports
Post by: Baofeng on December 12, 2021, 10:25:27 PM
They don't get that much customer in the forum since they are well known shady casino here. I don't know what's success of the campaign that OP mention on his statement but I think the campaign is a failure because there target is an audience here while nobody cares about them here. They are just burning money for nothing. Most of there new players are outside the forum. Eventually this scam shit campaign will just end when they realize that they are paying to bought account that shit posting for them in exchange for there money.

Well they have been running this signature campaigns for months now so for sure they are earning money maybe not from this forum but from other sources as well. Or maybe there are a few beginners in crypto gambling wherein they search and found out about 1XBit here in our community and then become their customers. So still a win-win situation for them to run campaigns here eventhough majority of us knows that they are a scam casinos.


Title: Re: 1XBIT campaign could be the next longest running campaign even with scam reports
Post by: Doell on December 12, 2021, 11:35:22 PM
when there any job that pay higher others than ,it is natural that people will take it but when it is associated with a "scam" there will be consequences for promoting fraud to other members which is not commendable at all for the community ! as a gambler, I'd rather lose because it's "fair" than to be caught lose in a "scam"
1xbit made a long campaign to restore reputation maybe but the fact is that all the smart people on this forum already know what they are doing campaign ,fortunately I'm here not only to make money but to seek insight and friendship so i'm not interested


Title: Re: 1XBIT campaign could be the next longest running campaign even with scam reports
Post by: lienfaye on December 13, 2021, 01:46:03 AM
The reputation of 1XBIT casino here is not good so I doubt if they can attract gamblers to play on their site even they run their campaign much longer.

The pay rates might be tempting but knowing the risk (getting a red tag) for involving yourself to their casino is not worth it if you value your account.

"Negative trust for promoting 1xBit is allowed" like bruh. They're really pushing for the idea that any sort of advertisement is still an advertisement.
Indeed. For them it doesnt matter as long as they can achieve their goal to spread awareness regardless what people think about their casino. Those promoters are also taking advantage the chance to make money, its their only concern.


Title: Re: 1XBIT campaign could be the next longest running campaign even with scam reports
Post by: Naficopa on December 13, 2021, 02:06:28 AM
I don't know if you paid attention, but there are some DT members in the forum who are giving a red tag for very bland things .. Of course they have the right to do so, because they do it according to their opinion. However, as a consequence, the number of red tag accounts increases very quickly. In my opinion, signature campaigns which will accept accounts with neagtive trusts will start appearing soon, as it happens in bounty campaigns. So even if the 1xbit signature campaign ends, I am not afraid of finding a new campaign.


Title: Re: 1XBIT campaign could be the next longest running campaign even with scam reports
Post by: Fundamentals Of on December 13, 2021, 03:08:16 AM
It's a simple math that's working here. I think the 1xbit shills are not really caring whether the campaign would last long or not. They only care that they could earn a nice amount even if their accounts here are already considered untrustworthy or probably worthless because of red trusts. If somebody has his account lying around earning nothing, could not even be sold for a few bucks, then why not join a campaign even if it means losing the account's worth forever? Even a month's pay of $400 is probably enough for 1xbit shills to lose their accounts.


Title: Re: 1XBIT campaign could be the next longest running campaign even with scam reports
Post by: Jawhead999 on December 13, 2021, 03:15:40 AM
To be honest they don't have any reputations, if you looked all of their participants you'll see they didn't even got at least 5 merits in last 120 days even though they're posting everyday. Also I doubt those accounts were actually his personal accounts, it's high chance a bought accounts because mostly have a long gap posting.

Actually the owner/team of 1xbit is the stupid, not the participants. They hire shitposter and keep paying them, while the campaign isn't benefit to them since most people in this forum already know how scammy 1xbit is.


Title: Re: 1XBIT campaign could be the next longest running campaign even with scam reports
Post by: Naficopa on December 13, 2021, 03:28:05 AM
It's a simple math that's working here. I think the 1xbit shills are not really caring whether the campaign would last long or not. They only care that they could earn a nice amount even if their accounts here are already considered untrustworthy or probably worthless because of red trusts. If somebody has his account lying around earning nothing, could not even be sold for a few bucks, then why not join a campaign even if it means losing the account's worth forever? Even a month's pay of $400 is probably enough for 1xbit shills to lose their accounts.

Correct. My account was worthless before I joined 1xBit signature campaign.
Im sure that for $400 you can buy clean Legendary account, or at least Hero.

To be honest they don't have any reputations, if you looked all of their participants you'll see they didn't even got at least 5 merits in last 120 days even though they're posting everyday. Also I doubt those accounts were actually his personal accounts, it's high chance a bought accounts because mostly have a long gap posting.

Actually the owner/team of 1xbit is the stupid, not the participants. They hire shitposter and keep paying them, while the campaign isn't benefit to them since most people in this forum already know how scammy 1xbit is.

I think that a 1xBit manager would like to be able to accept accounts that do not have a negative reputation in his signature campaign. He was just forced to accept red tagged accounts, because everyone who joined the campaign got it anyway. For me, it was a chance to earn money from a signature campaign in Bitcoin, not to participate in risky bounty campaigns. Simple as that.


Title: Re: 1XBIT campaign could be the next longest running campaign even with scam reports
Post by: Oshosondy on December 13, 2021, 06:36:02 AM
Correct. My account was worthless before I joined 1xBit signature campaign.
Im sure that for $400 you can buy clean Legendary account, or at least Hero.
Buying or not buying account, we should also be thinking of others, if anyone join 1xbit, won money and never get paid like others have been complaining. The people that advertise them make such people to get scammed. I have also heard 1xbet has connection with 1xbit, have you seen some acquisition against the betting site also. We should advertise those campaigns that have good reputation.

I think that a 1xBit manager would like to be able to accept accounts that do not have a negative reputation in his signature campaign. He was just forced to accept red tagged accounts, because everyone who joined the campaign got it anyway. For me, it was a chance to earn money from a signature campaign in Bitcoin, not to participate in risky bounty campaigns. Simple as that.
I noticed 1xbit is not accepting accounts with negative tag, but 1xbit is having numerous negative tag itself.


Title: Re: 1XBIT campaign could be the next longest running campaign even with scam reports
Post by: Naficopa on December 13, 2021, 06:46:10 AM
I think that a 1xBit manager would like to be able to accept accounts that do not have a negative reputation in his signature campaign. He was just forced to accept red tagged accounts, because everyone who joined the campaign got it anyway. For me, it was a chance to earn money from a signature campaign in Bitcoin, not to participate in risky bounty campaigns. Simple as that.
I noticed 1xbit is not accepting accounts with negative tag, but 1xbit is having numerous negative tag itself.

As I wrote earlier, at the moment the manager of neither one nor the other 1xBit signature campaign has no choice. There is a condition that only accounts that have received a negative trust for promoting 1xBit in the past can be accepted. But I saw that in the new 1xBit signature campaign there are also exceptions for accounts that received a red tag for little things.


Title: Re: 1XBIT campaign could be the next longest running campaign even with scam reports
Post by: Oshosondy on December 13, 2021, 06:51:00 AM
As I wrote earlier, at the moment the manager of neither one nor the other 1xBit signature campaign has no choice. There is a condition that only accounts that have received a negative trust for promoting 1xBit in the past can be accepted. But I saw that in the new 1xBit signature campaign there are also exceptions for accounts that received a red tag for little things.
I was only referring to this year first 1xbit campaign which they brought to this forum some months ago, like seven months ago or something. I noticed there has been other two or three campaigns that were later introduced with the previous ones disabled. My bad that I did not know much about how the campaign manager are accepting and rejecting accounts that applied for their campaign later. I did not know people with negative trust are now also accepted. That is how it should be, there are some red trust that does not worth it. But this does not mean I trust 1xbit though.


Title: Re: 1XBIT campaign could be the next longest running campaign even with scam reports
Post by: Naficopa on December 13, 2021, 07:57:08 AM
As I wrote earlier, at the moment the manager of neither one nor the other 1xBit signature campaign has no choice. There is a condition that only accounts that have received a negative trust for promoting 1xBit in the past can be accepted. But I saw that in the new 1xBit signature campaign there are also exceptions for accounts that received a red tag for little things.
I was only referring to this year first 1xbit campaign which they brought to this forum some months ago, like seven months ago or something. I noticed there has been other two or three campaigns that were later introduced with the previous ones disabled. My bad that I did not know much about how the campaign manager are accepting and rejecting accounts that applied for their campaign later. I did not know people with negative trust are now also accepted. That is how it should be, there are some red trust that does not worth it. But this does not mean I trust 1xbit though.

In fact, the rules of the campaign have not changed much. The community just does not like this campaign much, so there are slight inconveniences from time to time.  Simply managers (because at the moment, as far as I know, there are two different ones - one for each campaign, because at the moment two are running simultaneously.) adapt to the conditions they have.


Title: Re: 1XBIT campaign could be the next longest running campaign even with scam reports
Post by: peter0425 on December 13, 2021, 09:39:34 AM
The majority of us here don't want this casino to have a campaign here, but the scam here is not moderated I'm surprised that they are already on their 7th month and they are still doing great,
I thin DOING GREAT is not necessary to mentioned because they are doing great in favor of their Paid shill participants and not about the forum content so Nope this is not great.

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the rate is very tempting if you're in the campaign for 7 months and you are a high ranking member that's $400 a month and over $2000 for 7 months and counting.
This is not to hype 1XBIT but many members prefer to lose their reputation for money because they think it's going to be one of the longest-running campaigns.
actually this is very helpful specially all of the account involved are Red tagged accounts , they cannot even join any other bitcoin paying campaign if this is not for `1xbit.

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What's your insight on 1XBIT campaign are they going to be one of the longest-running campaigns.



I don't think they will run long , for me it is only their PRIDE thats why they are still holding the campaign but the truth is? this does not add value in their business because Bitcointalk users are taking their distance from this obvious scam casino site.



It will all be okay once they clean up their mess. It's been 7 months, and still we see gamblers telling their experiences on how bad the service is.
I don't have anything against them but we all want our money to be in safe hands. We want to deposit and withdraw our money anytime we want it to with complete numbers.
It's not just about the signatures that we should look at, it's what's within. They can go 2 years running this campaign but what about the unsolved history regarding the service itself? Should it all be sugarcoat by on time payment in signature advertising?
Their signature campaigning is a sign that they are desperately needed this bitcointalk.org community to bring players in their site because of their willingness to spend thousands of dollars just to promote their site here even tough they are  facing bad impact , looking at their paid participants? do you really think this will bring positive outcome towards their gambling site?
no i don't think so because from so much big payments now they have adjusted (though still decent) yet they felt like spending funds without any returns.

and also look at this thread, the administration of 1xbit stops collaborating anymore here lol.


Title: Re: 1XBIT campaign could be the next longest running campaign even with scam reports
Post by: Alisha-k on December 13, 2021, 10:49:05 AM
It's a simple math that's working here. I think the 1xbit shills are not really caring whether the campaign would last long or not. They only care that they could earn a nice amount even if their accounts here are already considered untrustworthy or probably worthless because of red trusts. If somebody has his account lying around earning nothing, could not even be sold for a few bucks, then why not join a campaign even if it means losing the account's worth forever? Even a month's pay of $400 is probably enough for 1xbit shills to lose their accounts.
Everyone here desires to earn someday from a campaign signature and so far 1xbit has proven to be reliable to their signature participants and no week passes without each participant who has meet their weekly requirements getting their funds in their wallet. We all anticipate to have 1xbit last even longer than any other campaign on the forum and if they don't  they still deserve some accolades they have been reliable enough for so long now


Title: Re: 1XBIT campaign could be the next longest running campaign even with scam reports
Post by: freedomgo on December 13, 2021, 12:26:10 PM
Not sure how long they will continue their campaign, but it looks like they are happy with the result because until now the campaign is still active. They have enough participants to wear their signature, and these people look like they are regular employees as with the red-tagged they received, they might not be accepted again to another campaign.


Title: Re: 1XBIT campaign could be the next longest running campaign even with scam reports
Post by: robelneo on December 13, 2021, 12:35:48 PM

I don't think they will run long , for me it is only their PRIDE thats why they are still holding the campaign but the truth is? this does not add value in their business because Bitcointalk users are taking their distance from this obvious scam casino site.

It's very challenging for us members here in Bitcointalk, other forums will just ban 1XBIT and all their participants, majority of us here are annoyed on 1XBIT presence here but the admin has a rule that scams are not moderated here so it's a challenge for us here to tell the community and expose them, we keep on encouraging people to be wise and always do research on where to put money and practice diligence all because we have seen how 1XBIT is working to promote their casino to scam people.


Title: Re: 1XBIT campaign could be the next longest running campaign even with scam reports
Post by: Naficopa on December 13, 2021, 01:29:21 PM
Not sure how long they will continue their campaign, but it looks like they are happy with the result because until now the campaign is still active. They have enough participants to wear their signature, and these people look like they are regular employees as with the red-tagged they received, they might not be accepted again to another campaign.

I don't know the plans of the 1xBit marketing team, so I don't know if this campaign will last for long, but it looks like they are happy with the results so far as they decided to launch a second campaign:

1. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5376183.0
2. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5367666.0

Both are active and run simultaneously.


Title: Re: 1XBIT campaign could be the next longest running campaign even with scam reports
Post by: goldkingcoiner on December 13, 2021, 03:13:38 PM
I don't really see the point of not banning 1xbit from this entire forum. Why are they allowed to keep advertising even though they are a well documented scam? This seems to me as a gross negligence in part of the Bitcointalk moderators. I understand that some people are desperate to make some money, but I think in the long term, more people will lose money rather than make it.


Title: Re: 1XBIT campaign could be the next longest running campaign even with scam reports
Post by: Slow death on December 13, 2021, 03:14:50 PM
Not sure how long they will continue their campaign, but it looks like they are happy with the result because until now the campaign is still active. They have enough participants to wear their signature, and these people look like they are regular employees as with the red-tagged they received, they might not be accepted again to another campaign.

I don't know the plans of the 1xBit marketing team, so I don't know if this campaign will last for long, but it looks like they are happy with the results so far as they decided to launch a second campaign:

1. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5376183.0
2. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5367666.0

Both are active and run simultaneously.

I don't understand why they created two campaigns? I know you're not part of the management of this scam casino, but it's kind of weird that they have two high payout campaigns and they refuse to pay customers who deposited and won at the casino, so they're taking the customers' hard-earned money to pay campaign participants and legitimize the casino. Is strange that


Title: Re: 1XBIT campaign could be the next longest running campaign even with scam reports
Post by: YOSHIE on December 13, 2021, 04:22:31 PM
What's your insight on 1XBIT campaign are they going to be one of the longest-running campaigns.
As you know scammers are not moderated in this forum, that's the problem, can't do much for the 1xbit campaign, but we have done what we can but that doesn't mean they have to stop, their payouts to participants are high and they accept color marked members.

My view is of course there is, in my opinion the members in this forum don't care anymore about their 1xbit campaign and gambling site, unfortunately victims from outside the forum are increasing every day, over time they will stop themselves to promote their campaigns here, I'm sure it will happen, not last long.


Title: Re: 1XBIT campaign could be the next longest running campaign even with scam reports
Post by: uneng on December 13, 2021, 06:38:48 PM
The most shocking part is that they belong to the same group of 1xbet, a big and popular fiat casino which has already sponsored soccer teams like Chelsea and Liverpool, also appearing very often in online advertisements even though you aren't looking for gambling content on the internet. As far as I know they are the largest bookmaker in Europe nowadays. Nevertheless, they are involved with the scam casino 1xbit, but people seem to not bother with this, including the regulators. They keep playing at the site without caring for their money or keep promoting it without caring for their own reputation.


Title: Re: 1XBIT campaign could be the next longest running campaign even with scam reports
Post by: dunfida on December 13, 2021, 06:46:28 PM
What's your insight on 1XBIT campaign are they going to be one of the longest-running campaigns.
As you know scammers are not moderated in this forum, that's the problem, can't do much for the 1xbit campaign, but we have done what we can but that doesn't mean they have to stop, their payouts to participants are high and they accept color marked members.

My view is of course there is, in my opinion the members in this forum don't care anymore about their 1xbit campaign and gambling site, unfortunately victims from outside the forum are increasing every day, over time they will stop themselves to promote their campaigns here, I'm sure it will happen, not last long.
On the time that they would find that it isnt really relevant to make out some advertisement on here and find out that they are just wasting some money

allocated for marketing then they would definitely stop but for now they could still do all they want because they do have the funds and its true that

scams arent moderated but the community could really give out that warning and awareness that people should stay away on this one.


Title: Re: 1XBIT campaign could be the next longest running campaign even with scam reports
Post by: Sirait on December 13, 2021, 07:04:47 PM
I don't really see the point of not banning 1xbit from this entire forum. Why are they allowed to keep advertising even though they are a well documented scam? This seems to me as a gross negligence in part of the Bitcointalk moderators. I understand that some people are desperate to make some money, but I think in the long term, more people will lose money rather than make it.
this is an open forum so anyone is free to be in this forum, if you feel disturbed then just ignore it or just leave this forum because criticizing the moderator's way of working is the same as being dissatisfied with the freedom that exists in this forum.

we all have the right to play on any gambling site and also join the signature campaign on any gambling site.


Title: Re: 1XBIT campaign could be the next longest running campaign even with scam reports
Post by: Oasisman on December 13, 2021, 07:11:33 PM
Companies who are tagged as scam or have any other issues that made their name painted with red and still running a signature campaign and accepting red tagged users will encourage other users to participate into a shady project regardless If it will destroy their forum reputation just like this user thought.
I don't know if you paid attention, but there are some DT members in the forum who are giving a red tag for very bland things .. Of course they have the right to do so, because they do it according to their opinion. However, as a consequence, the number of red tag accounts increases very quickly. In my opinion, signature campaigns which will accept accounts with neagtive trusts will start appearing soon, as it happens in bounty campaigns. So even if the 1xbit signature campaign ends, I am not afraid of finding a new campaign.

You guys could've saved your reputations If you stayed away from that campaign after you found out that it has an issue, or at least check the status of that platform before applying.
Yes, you're right you can't blame the DT's for tagging you because that's the right thing to do. Participating in a shady business as an advertiser means you're one of them.


Title: Re: 1XBIT campaign could be the next longest running campaign even with scam reports
Post by: Naficopa on December 13, 2021, 07:58:11 PM
Not sure how long they will continue their campaign, but it looks like they are happy with the result because until now the campaign is still active. They have enough participants to wear their signature, and these people look like they are regular employees as with the red-tagged they received, they might not be accepted again to another campaign.

I don't know the plans of the 1xBit marketing team, so I don't know if this campaign will last for long, but it looks like they are happy with the results so far as they decided to launch a second campaign:

1. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5376183.0
2. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5367666.0

Both are active and run simultaneously.

I don't understand why they created two campaigns? I know you're not part of the management of this scam casino, but it's kind of weird that they have two high payout campaigns and they refuse to pay customers who deposited and won at the casino, so they're taking the customers' hard-earned money to pay campaign participants and legitimize the casino. Is strange that

It seems they are testing various forms of campaigns. The main campaign has a standard code of signature and is long-term. They launch additional campaigns for the needs of events and they last a week or two. At least I drew such conclusions from what they have announced and done so far.



Companies who are tagged as scam or have any other issues that made their name painted with red and still running a signature campaign and accepting red tagged users will encourage other users to participate into a shady project regardless If it will destroy their forum reputation just like this user thought.
I don't know if you paid attention, but there are some DT members in the forum who are giving a red tag for very bland things .. Of course they have the right to do so, because they do it according to their opinion. However, as a consequence, the number of red tag accounts increases very quickly. In my opinion, signature campaigns which will accept accounts with neagtive trusts will start appearing soon, as it happens in bounty campaigns. So even if the 1xbit signature campaign ends, I am not afraid of finding a new campaign.

You guys could've saved your reputations If you stayed away from that campaign after you found out that it has an issue, or at least check the status of that platform before applying.
Yes, you're right you can't blame the DT's for tagging you because that's the right thing to do. Participating in a shady business as an advertiser means you're one of them.

I was previously red tagged for a little thing which made my account worthless. That's why I joined the 1xBit signature campaign.


Title: Re: 1XBIT campaign could be the next longest running campaign even with scam reports
Post by: Zilon on December 13, 2021, 08:18:31 PM
The most shocking part is that they belong to the same group of 1xbet, a big and popular fiat casino which has already sponsored soccer teams like Chelsea and Liverpool, also appearing very often in online advertisements even though you aren't looking for gambling content on the internet. As far as I know they are the largest bookmaker in Europe nowadays. Nevertheless, they are involved with the scam casino 1xbit, but people seem to not bother with this, including the regulators. They keep playing at the site without caring for their money or keep promoting it without caring for their own reputation.
There is no proof both 1xbet and 1xbit is owned and managed by the same group of casino operators but my major concern is how far they site still get endorsement and happen to be one of the largest gambling sites in Europe despite the aligation levied against them. I'm wondering if there is no regulatory agency that sees into the reputation of most of this online casinos and gambling sites


Title: Re: 1XBIT campaign could be the next longest running campaign even with scam reports
Post by: Naficopa on December 13, 2021, 08:29:47 PM
The most shocking part is that they belong to the same group of 1xbet, a big and popular fiat casino which has already sponsored soccer teams like Chelsea and Liverpool, also appearing very often in online advertisements even though you aren't looking for gambling content on the internet. As far as I know they are the largest bookmaker in Europe nowadays. Nevertheless, they are involved with the scam casino 1xbit, but people seem to not bother with this, including the regulators. They keep playing at the site without caring for their money or keep promoting it without caring for their own reputation.
There is no proof both 1xbet and 1xbit is owned and managed by the same group of casino operators but my major concern is how far they site still get endorsement and happen to be one of the largest gambling sites in Europe despite the aligation levied against them. I'm wondering if there is no regulatory agency that sees into the reputation of most of this online casinos and gambling sites

If the situation were clear, surely large football clubs or even international football federations would not allow 1xBit to be advertised next to their name. I know the situation is quite controversial, but I think that before a large football club signs an advertising contract, it has lawyers to check it out. I am not a specialist, but they should be because they really live off of it.


Title: Re: 1XBIT campaign could be the next longest running campaign even with scam reports
Post by: Vannie12 on December 13, 2021, 11:09:13 PM

Most times it's not about the money. Many accusations came up against 1xbit and the made efforts to resolve this issues but weren't given much attention instead many insisted they were scammers and WI forever remain. Personally I joined the campaign to see for myself  how reliable they are and I will say they have been the best campaign and still standing. It's a matter of choice on what one choose to hold on to

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Everyone here desires to earn someday from a campaign signature and so far 1xbit has proven to be reliable to their signature participants and no week passes without each participant who has meet their weekly requirements getting their funds in their wallet. We all anticipate to have 1xbit last even longer than any other campaign on the forum and if they don't  they still deserve some accolades they have been reliable enough for so long now

Ofcourse its all about the money. Most of the signature campaigns only accepts higher ranked members. Seldom accepts members and lower ranks that's why you joined the campaign. You're eagerly wanting to be paid as soon as possible here.
Well, I doubt that once 1xbit fall, you will be able to find managers that will accept you for the negative trust. Youngsters like us here in the forum need to understand the consequences as much as possible.


Title: Re: 1XBIT campaign could be the next longest running campaign even with scam reports
Post by: Fundamentals Of on December 14, 2021, 01:13:14 AM
It's a simple math that's working here. I think the 1xbit shills are not really caring whether the campaign would last long or not. They only care that they could earn a nice amount even if their accounts here are already considered untrustworthy or probably worthless because of red trusts. If somebody has his account lying around earning nothing, could not even be sold for a few bucks, then why not join a campaign even if it means losing the account's worth forever? Even a month's pay of $400 is probably enough for 1xbit shills to lose their accounts.

Correct. My account was worthless before I joined 1xBit signature campaign.
Im sure that for $400 you can buy clean Legendary account, or at least Hero.

But please don't think I am in favor of what you are doing. You've probably done the right thing as far as your account is concerned. You are earning from an account that is considered useless already given the many red trusts that it gained. But please be aware that what you are promoting is generally a scam platform. By earning, you are actually influencing others to use a platform that will take away their money. For yourself, all is good because you are earning good. For others, they're at risk.


Title: Re: 1XBIT campaign could be the next longest running campaign even with scam reports
Post by: uneng on December 14, 2021, 07:58:18 PM
The most shocking part is that they belong to the same group of 1xbet, a big and popular fiat casino which has already sponsored soccer teams like Chelsea and Liverpool, also appearing very often in online advertisements even though you aren't looking for gambling content on the internet. As far as I know they are the largest bookmaker in Europe nowadays. Nevertheless, they are involved with the scam casino 1xbit, but people seem to not bother with this, including the regulators. They keep playing at the site without caring for their money or keep promoting it without caring for their own reputation.
There is no proof both 1xbet and 1xbit is owned and managed by the same group of casino operators but my major concern is how far they site still get endorsement and happen to be one of the largest gambling sites in Europe despite the aligation levied against them. I'm wondering if there is no regulatory agency that sees into the reputation of most of this online casinos and gambling sites
Check the faq section of this gambling review site and you will see:

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Q: Who owns 1xbit?
1xbit is owned and operated from 1xCorp N.V. which is licensed in Curacao. This is the same group that owns 1Xbet.

1xbit review (https://www.bookmakers.bet/review/1xbit/)

You can also paste 1xCorp N.V. directly on Google and the search will link to 1xbet instantly.

Actually I've found the same complaints we see regards 1xbit on this forum in another reviews sites, but regards 1xbet. Mainly issues with gamblers who were able to grow their bankroll after some time betting, and once they did, their accounts were freezed (no withdrawls allowed anymore).


Title: Re: 1XBIT campaign could be the next longest running campaign even with scam reports
Post by: aleandromagno on December 14, 2021, 11:19:08 PM
The most shocking part is that they belong to the same group of 1xbet, a big and popular fiat casino which has already sponsored soccer teams like Chelsea and Liverpool, also appearing very often in online advertisements even though you aren't looking for gambling content on the internet. As far as I know they are the largest bookmaker in Europe nowadays. Nevertheless, they are involved with the scam casino 1xbit, but people seem to not bother with this, including the regulators. They keep playing at the site without caring for their money or keep promoting it without caring for their own reputation.
There is no proof both 1xbet and 1xbit is owned and managed by the same group of casino operators but my major concern is how far they site still get endorsement and happen to be one of the largest gambling sites in Europe despite the aligation levied against them. I'm wondering if there is no regulatory agency that sees into the reputation of most of this online casinos and gambling sites
Check the faq section of this gambling review site and you will see:

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Q: Who owns 1xbit?
1xbit is owned and operated from 1xCorp N.V. which is licensed in Curacao. This is the same group that owns 1Xbet.

1xbit review (https://www.bookmakers.bet/review/1xbit/)

You can also paste 1xCorp N.V. directly on Google and the search will link to 1xbet instantly.

Actually I've found the same complaints we see regards 1xbit on this forum in another reviews sites, but regards 1xbet. Mainly issues with gamblers who were able to grow their bankroll after some time betting, and once they did, their accounts were freezed (no withdrawls allowed anymore).

As far as I know, representatives of 1xbit claim that 1xbet is a separate company. But it is possible that the owner is the same.
If it is the same capital group, it means that it is one of the largest casinos and bookmakers in the world.


Title: Re: 1XBIT campaign could be the next longest running campaign even with scam reports
Post by: uneng on December 15, 2021, 01:24:56 AM
As far as I know, representatives of 1xbit claim that 1xbet is a separate company. But it is possible that the owner is the same.
If it is the same capital group, it means that it is one of the largest casinos and bookmakers in the world.
I don't doubt they are one of the largest bookmakers in the world, what becomes even more surprising they are in such important position, while behaving in a shady way with their customers.

I know you promote them and everyone needs money for a living, but don't you feel bad for those who have been scammed by 1xbit and 1xbet?

As I see there is a wide variety of cases against their brands, and not only isolated accusations, like the ones against another casinos. So it's not possible to say it's persecution.


Title: Re: 1XBIT campaign could be the next longest running campaign even with scam reports
Post by: Darker45 on December 15, 2021, 01:49:12 AM
As to whether this campaign will be one of the longest-running campaigns on this forum or not, we cannot tell. Surely, it will depend on how much improvement this campaign gave to their platform's statistics, probably in terms of number of new users, number and amount of bets, and so on.

But the point is that however well they promote their site, for as long as the accusations are rising and remain unsolved, they couldn't reach the success they want. User experience should be their priority.


Title: Re: 1XBIT campaign could be the next longest running campaign even with scam reports
Post by: The Cryptovator on December 15, 2021, 03:07:55 AM
Let earn something to red-tagged users. The participants of the campaign either red-tagged from the beginning of joining the campaign or got tagged after joining the campaign. Something like a red-tagged campaign. I don't know if it's run long, but it's an opportunity for 1xbit to promote scam casinos by possible scammers or by scammers. The problem is forum users especially those who are newbies do not see who wearing the signature. They probably jump into the scam by seeing their greedy offers and that's how the campaign lasts long. Just imagine if 1xbit does not get a response from the forum they won't run a campaign for longer. We don't have a way to ban them although we don't like to see them on the forum as long as they comply with forum rules.


Title: Re: 1XBIT campaign could be the next longest running campaign even with scam reports
Post by: Naficopa on December 15, 2021, 03:35:10 AM
It's a simple math that's working here. I think the 1xbit shills are not really caring whether the campaign would last long or not. They only care that they could earn a nice amount even if their accounts here are already considered untrustworthy or probably worthless because of red trusts. If somebody has his account lying around earning nothing, could not even be sold for a few bucks, then why not join a campaign even if it means losing the account's worth forever? Even a month's pay of $400 is probably enough for 1xbit shills to lose their accounts.

Correct. My account was worthless before I joined 1xBit signature campaign.
Im sure that for $400 you can buy clean Legendary account, or at least Hero.

But please don't think I am in favor of what you are doing. You've probably done the right thing as far as your account is concerned. You are earning from an account that is considered useless already given the many red trusts that it gained. But please be aware that what you are promoting is generally a scam platform. By earning, you are actually influencing others to use a platform that will take away their money. For yourself, all is good because you are earning good. For others, they're at risk.

I can see what the opinion is about 1xBit and I knew what opinion I would get after joining this campaign. I joined the 1xBit campaign because I couldn't join any other campaign. I hope that it will last as long as possible, because when it ends, I will probably have to take part in risky bounties again.


Title: Re: 1XBIT campaign could be the next longest running campaign even with scam reports
Post by: Oshosondy on December 15, 2021, 08:01:52 AM
I can see what the opinion is about 1xBit and I knew what opinion I would get after joining this campaign. I joined the 1xBit campaign because I couldn't join any other campaign. I hope that it will last as long as possible, because when it ends, I will probably have to take part in risky bounties again.
What is your opinion. From what I get from your post is that 1xbit is taking low quality posters. I am not saying you are a low quality posters, but you said you were unable to join a signature campaign before 1xbit came. Likely you are also preffering to join bounty campaigns until you joined 1xbit. What I can say is that you should try to increase you quality way of posting, have the merit required and see yourself join a better campaign will be achievable.

The second is that you did not care if some people will see your signature, click on it and register on 1xbit. If the people are scammed, you do not care. What you care most about is to join a campaign, you do not care if the site is shady or not.


Title: Re: 1XBIT campaign could be the next longest running campaign even with scam reports
Post by: Naficopa on December 15, 2021, 08:36:53 AM
I can see what the opinion is about 1xBit and I knew what opinion I would get after joining this campaign. I joined the 1xBit campaign because I couldn't join any other campaign. I hope that it will last as long as possible, because when it ends, I will probably have to take part in risky bounties again.
What is your opinion. From what I get from your post is that 1xbit is taking low quality posters. I am not saying you are a low quality posters, but you said you were unable to join a signature campaign before 1xbit came. Likely you are also preffering to join bounty campaigns until you joined 1xbit. What I can say is that you should try to increase you quality way of posting, have the merit required and see yourself join a better campaign will be achievable.

The second is that you did not care if some people will see your signature, click on it and register on 1xbit. If the people are scammed, you do not care. What you care most about is to join a campaign, you do not care if the site is shady or not.

Before joining the 1xBit campaign, I took part in bounties, because I already had a red trust, so the quality of the posts did not matter, because I couldn't join any other signature campaign anyway.

Of course you can have doubts about how 1xBit works. I haven't played there, but they've been paying me a campaign fee every week for several months, so personally I can't say anything bad about them.


Title: Re: 1XBIT campaign could be the next longest running campaign even with scam reports
Post by: TwitchySeal on December 15, 2021, 11:43:29 AM
Of course you can have doubts about how 1xBit works. I haven't played there, but they've been paying me a campaign fee every week for several months, so personally I can't say anything bad about them.

Sure you could.  You could say something about all the players that have had money stolen from them by 1xbit.  You are responsible for helping drive traffic to 1xbit after all.  

You choose not to though.  Because they pay you.  You could help other members avoid getting scammed, but instead you do the opposite.  Because 1xbit is giving you money.


Title: Re: 1XBIT campaign could be the next longest running campaign even with scam reports
Post by: stomachgrowls on December 15, 2021, 08:36:33 PM
Of course you can have doubts about how 1xBit works. I haven't played there, but they've been paying me a campaign fee every week for several months, so personally I can't say anything bad about them.

Sure you could.  You could say something about all the players that have had money stolen from them by 1xbit.  You are responsible for helping drive traffic to 1xbit after all.  

You choose not to though.  Because they pay you.  You could help other members avoid getting scammed, but instead you do the opposite.  Because 1xbit is giving you money.
Wonder on what he would say if he wasnt able to be accepted on the campaign? For sure he would really be saying that  1xbit should really be avoided. :D

You could really expect people on having those u turn of decisions whenever they do get money from or lets say they wouldnt care on what  the communities views and perceptions towards it as long he got paid.

He wont really be reminding about his account reputation though. At least he do make out some benefits on his red tagged account.lol


Title: Re: 1XBIT campaign could be the next longest running campaign even with scam reports
Post by: jrrsparkles on December 16, 2021, 04:51:09 PM
I can see what the opinion is about 1xBit and I knew what opinion I would get after joining this campaign. I joined the 1xBit campaign because I couldn't join any other campaign. I hope that it will last as long as possible, because when it ends, I will probably have to take part in risky bounties again.
What is your opinion. From what I get from your post is that 1xbit is taking low quality posters. I am not saying you are a low quality posters, but you said you were unable to join a signature campaign before 1xbit came. Likely you are also preffering to join bounty campaigns until you joined 1xbit. What I can say is that you should try to increase you quality way of posting, have the merit required and see yourself join a better campaign will be achievable.

The second is that you did not care if some people will see your signature, click on it and register on 1xbit. If the people are scammed, you do not care. What you care most about is to join a campaign, you do not care if the site is shady or not.

Before joining the 1xBit campaign, I took part in bounties, because I already had a red trust, so the quality of the posts did not matter, because I couldn't join any other signature campaign anyway.

Of course you can have doubts about how 1xBit works. I haven't played there, but they've been paying me a campaign fee every week for several months, so personally I can't say anything bad about them.
Money matters but for some respect is more important said by Paul Walker in FF movie if I am not wrong.

Atleast you should try their site and sense how the feeling of getting scammed by someone then you won't support it even though if they are paying you.


Title: Re: 1XBIT campaign could be the next longest running campaign even with scam reports
Post by: Oshosondy on December 17, 2021, 06:00:57 PM
Money matters but for some respect is more important said by Paul Walker in FF movie if I am not wrong.

Atleast you should try their site and sense how the feeling of getting scammed by someone then you won't support it even though if they are paying you.
This is exactly my point, it is like working for a thief so the thief will be able to steal more. In this case the thief is later known and charged to court, anyone the thief implicated as co-workers will also be among that will face justice. This is what is happening to 1xbit participates for supporting a betting platform that was and still accused of wrongdoing that can continue to result to money loss for 1xbit users.


Title: Re: 1XBIT campaign could be the next longest running campaign even with scam reports
Post by: fortunecrypto on December 18, 2021, 01:55:27 PM

This is exactly my point, it is like working for a thief so the thief will be able to steal more. In this case the thief is later known and charged to court, anyone the thief implicated as co-workers will also be among that will face justice. This is what is happening to 1xbit participates for supporting a betting platform that was and still accused of wrongdoing that can continue to result to money loss for 1xbit users.

Unfortunately, those who participated in the signature campaign cannot be charged because it's hard to trace who these people are, we can only get their location because some of them are posting in their local board but getting their information I don't think the authorities will pursue them, they are safe and they can promote as long as they want, in fact, we have 2 campaigns related to 1XBIT now in the service section.


Title: Re: 1XBIT campaign could be the next longest running campaign even with scam reports
Post by: Oshosondy on December 18, 2021, 05:50:10 PM
Unfortunately, those who participated in the signature campaign cannot be charged because it's hard to trace who these people are, we can only get their location because some of them are posting in their local board but getting their information I don't think the authorities will pursue them, they are safe and they can promote as long as they want, in fact, we have 2 campaigns related to 1XBIT now in the service section.
I am not saying it directly, I just used it as an example. Just saying the real reason why negative trusts given to the people that joined the campaign not bad. I have read in some posts how some people that joined the campaign are not having guilt but only chasing the weekly paid money which is wrong. That others that can be fall into the category of money loss should be what they should post about I stead of advertising non reputable campaign on this forum. The post was just indirect.


Title: Re: 1XBIT campaign could be the next longest running campaign even with scam reports
Post by: Naficopa on December 19, 2021, 01:14:44 AM
Unfortunately, those who participated in the signature campaign cannot be charged because it's hard to trace who these people are, we can only get their location because some of them are posting in their local board but getting their information I don't think the authorities will pursue them, they are safe and they can promote as long as they want, in fact, we have 2 campaigns related to 1XBIT now in the service section.
I am not saying it directly, I just used it as an example. Just saying the real reason why negative trusts given to the people that joined the campaign not bad. I have read in some posts how some people that joined the campaign are not having guilt but only chasing the weekly paid money which is wrong. That others that can be fall into the category of money loss should be what they should post about I stead of advertising non reputable campaign on this forum. The post was just indirect.

I understand your opinion, but I am surprised that you are focusing your attention only on 1xBit. If you are driven by such a high sense of morality, why are you not criticizing the ChipMixer signature campaign? After all, it is clear that all mixers are involved in money laundering. Why do you not criticize and mark red users who, in signature have ChipMixer ad and support criminals (or maybe even terrorists as it is suggested in Wikipedia)?


Title: Re: 1XBIT campaign could be the next longest running campaign even with scam reports
Post by: TwitchySeal on December 19, 2021, 01:54:28 AM
Unfortunately, those who participated in the signature campaign cannot be charged because it's hard to trace who these people are, we can only get their location because some of them are posting in their local board but getting their information I don't think the authorities will pursue them, they are safe and they can promote as long as they want, in fact, we have 2 campaigns related to 1XBIT now in the service section.
I am not saying it directly, I just used it as an example. Just saying the real reason why negative trusts given to the people that joined the campaign not bad. I have read in some posts how some people that joined the campaign are not having guilt but only chasing the weekly paid money which is wrong. That others that can be fall into the category of money loss should be what they should post about I stead of advertising non reputable campaign on this forum. The post was just indirect.

I understand your opinion, but I am surprised that you are focusing your attention only on 1xBit. If you are driven by such a high sense of morality, why are you not criticizing the ChipMixer signature campaign? After all, it is clear that all mixers are involved in money laundering. Why do you not criticize and mark red users who, in signature have ChipMixer ad and support criminals (or maybe even terrorists as it is suggested in Wikipedia)?

It doesn't take a high sense of morality to understand the difference between Chip Mixer and 1xbit.  Chip Mixer is an honest business that is useful to both honest and dishonest people doing both honest and dishonest things.  The same could be said for any crypto exchange, or vpn service, or really any business that provides a service or sells goods that could help someone commit a crime.

If Chip Mixer regularly stole money from their customers like 1xbit does, then members of the Chip Mixer campaign would receive negative trust like you.



Title: Re: 1XBIT campaign could be the next longest running campaign even with scam reports
Post by: Naficopa on December 19, 2021, 02:34:20 AM
Unfortunately, those who participated in the signature campaign cannot be charged because it's hard to trace who these people are, we can only get their location because some of them are posting in their local board but getting their information I don't think the authorities will pursue them, they are safe and they can promote as long as they want, in fact, we have 2 campaigns related to 1XBIT now in the service section.
I am not saying it directly, I just used it as an example. Just saying the real reason why negative trusts given to the people that joined the campaign not bad. I have read in some posts how some people that joined the campaign are not having guilt but only chasing the weekly paid money which is wrong. That others that can be fall into the category of money loss should be what they should post about I stead of advertising non reputable campaign on this forum. The post was just indirect.

I understand your opinion, but I am surprised that you are focusing your attention only on 1xBit. If you are driven by such a high sense of morality, why are you not criticizing the ChipMixer signature campaign? After all, it is clear that all mixers are involved in money laundering. Why do you not criticize and mark red users who, in signature have ChipMixer ad and support criminals (or maybe even terrorists as it is suggested in Wikipedia)?

It doesn't take a high sense of morality to understand the difference between Chip Mixer and 1xbit.  Chip Mixer is an honest business that is useful to both honest and dishonest people doing both honest and dishonest things.  The same could be said for any crypto exchange, or vpn service, or really any business that provides a service or sells goods that could help someone commit a crime.

If Chip Mixer regularly stole money from their customers like 1xbit does, then members of the Chip Mixer campaign would receive negative trust like you.


I understand that once Chipmixer receives official criminal charges, you will mark everyone, who wear their ad in signature in red. Until that happens, you can turn a blind eye to their money laundering and pretend everything is okay?  I think it's hypocrisy .. don't you think?


Title: Re: 1XBIT campaign could be the next longest running campaign even with scam reports
Post by: TwitchySeal on December 19, 2021, 04:24:00 AM
Unfortunately, those who participated in the signature campaign cannot be charged because it's hard to trace who these people are, we can only get their location because some of them are posting in their local board but getting their information I don't think the authorities will pursue them, they are safe and they can promote as long as they want, in fact, we have 2 campaigns related to 1XBIT now in the service section.
I am not saying it directly, I just used it as an example. Just saying the real reason why negative trusts given to the people that joined the campaign not bad. I have read in some posts how some people that joined the campaign are not having guilt but only chasing the weekly paid money which is wrong. That others that can be fall into the category of money loss should be what they should post about I stead of advertising non reputable campaign on this forum. The post was just indirect.

I understand your opinion, but I am surprised that you are focusing your attention only on 1xBit. If you are driven by such a high sense of morality, why are you not criticizing the ChipMixer signature campaign? After all, it is clear that all mixers are involved in money laundering. Why do you not criticize and mark red users who, in signature have ChipMixer ad and support criminals (or maybe even terrorists as it is suggested in Wikipedia)?

It doesn't take a high sense of morality to understand the difference between Chip Mixer and 1xbit.  Chip Mixer is an honest business that is useful to both honest and dishonest people doing both honest and dishonest things.  The same could be said for any crypto exchange, or vpn service, or really any business that provides a service or sells goods that could help someone commit a crime.

If Chip Mixer regularly stole money from their customers like 1xbit does, then members of the Chip Mixer campaign would receive negative trust like you.


I understand that once Chipmixer receives official criminal charges, you will mark everyone, who wear their ad in signature in red. Until that happens, you can turn a blind eye to their money laundering and pretend everything is okay?  I think it's hypocrisy .. don't you think?


If Chip Mixer regularly stole money from their customers like 1xbit does, then members of the Chip Mixer campaign would receive negative trust like you.

It's none of my business what people do with their money, just like it's none of Chip Mixers business what their customers do with their money.  I think Chip Mixing is a good service to have for the community.  Yes, some people will do bad things with their money, they should be held accountable for those bad things.  Providing a mixing service is not a bad thing.  Stealing money from you customers is.  Chip Mixer isn't stealing money.  1xbit is.


Title: Re: 1XBIT campaign could be the next longest running campaign even with scam reports
Post by: Naficopa on December 19, 2021, 05:15:08 AM
Unfortunately, those who participated in the signature campaign cannot be charged because it's hard to trace who these people are, we can only get their location because some of them are posting in their local board but getting their information I don't think the authorities will pursue them, they are safe and they can promote as long as they want, in fact, we have 2 campaigns related to 1XBIT now in the service section.
I am not saying it directly, I just used it as an example. Just saying the real reason why negative trusts given to the people that joined the campaign not bad. I have read in some posts how some people that joined the campaign are not having guilt but only chasing the weekly paid money which is wrong. That others that can be fall into the category of money loss should be what they should post about I stead of advertising non reputable campaign on this forum. The post was just indirect.

I understand your opinion, but I am surprised that you are focusing your attention only on 1xBit. If you are driven by such a high sense of morality, why are you not criticizing the ChipMixer signature campaign? After all, it is clear that all mixers are involved in money laundering. Why do you not criticize and mark red users who, in signature have ChipMixer ad and support criminals (or maybe even terrorists as it is suggested in Wikipedia)?

It doesn't take a high sense of morality to understand the difference between Chip Mixer and 1xbit.  Chip Mixer is an honest business that is useful to both honest and dishonest people doing both honest and dishonest things.  The same could be said for any crypto exchange, or vpn service, or really any business that provides a service or sells goods that could help someone commit a crime.

If Chip Mixer regularly stole money from their customers like 1xbit does, then members of the Chip Mixer campaign would receive negative trust like you.


I understand that once Chipmixer receives official criminal charges, you will mark everyone, who wear their ad in signature in red. Until that happens, you can turn a blind eye to their money laundering and pretend everything is okay?  I think it's hypocrisy .. don't you think?


If Chip Mixer regularly stole money from their customers like 1xbit does, then members of the Chip Mixer campaign would receive negative trust like you.

It's none of my business what people do with their money, just like it's none of Chip Mixers business what their customers do with their money.  I think Chip Mixing is a good service to have for the community.  Yes, some people will do bad things with their money, they should be held accountable for those bad things.  Providing a mixing service is not a bad thing.  Stealing money from you customers is.  Chip Mixer isn't stealing money.  1xbit is.


In my opinion, the word "mixing money" is just a nicer name for "laundering money". Of course, as long as no criminal charges are brought, I have nothing to fight for, because the Bitcointalk jet set is still making great money on this business. You know very well that sooner or later it will happen, because you also know that Bitcoin mixers / launderers were created mostly for that. Talks like yours are just cover, same like other bullishits that are covering at start all ponzi schemes and other scams. This is pure hypocrisy to me.

YOU ALL KNOW IT VERY WELL!


Title: Re: 1XBIT campaign could be the next longest running campaign even with scam reports
Post by: Oshosondy on December 19, 2021, 10:51:30 AM
I understand your opinion, but I am surprised that you are focusing your attention only on 1xBit. If you are driven by such a high sense of morality, why are you not criticizing the ChipMixer signature campaign? After all, it is clear that all mixers are involved in money laundering. Why do you not criticize and mark red users who, in signature have ChipMixer ad and support criminals (or maybe even terrorists as it is suggested in Wikipedia)?
Have you heard about Chipmixer scam anyone on this forum, I have not even heard of Chipmixer scammed anyone before, but this is what we are talking about for 1xbit, that some 1xbit users complained of their deposited and their winning not paid them by 1xbit, this is a big different cases entirely.

Chipmxier is a mixer, they can not help an address already taggged by government that has been involved in criminal activities to mix, it is not possible, they are only concerned about privacy, but some people can use it as an advatange for criminal activities just like some people use money for criminal activities, should this be the reason fiat currencies should not exist anymore?


Title: Re: 1XBIT campaign could be the next longest running campaign even with scam reports
Post by: robelneo on December 19, 2021, 02:43:49 PM
They have a new campaign right now, it's their third campaign for this month

[1xBit.com] - Christmas SPECIAL- Signature Campaign [OPEN] (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5377751.0) the rate is very attractive $100 for legendary I hope higher members with no red trust will not be tempted to participate, I still believe that their campaign here will not last as many accusations are still coming and it will have a snowball effect.