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Title: Tell one good reason why Satoshi should come back
Post by: mynonce on December 16, 2021, 11:58:33 AM
It is possible, that Satoshi is/are reading all these bitcointalk contributions ... and although some pepole want him/her/them to come back, nothing happened.
Tell one good reason why Satoshi should come back. (good reason = improvement of Bitcoin)


Title: Re: Tell one good reason why Satoshi should come back
Post by: tranthidung on December 16, 2021, 12:15:05 PM
good reason = improvement of Bitcoin
Improvement of Bitcoin source code is one of good reasons, I agree.

However, it does not mean satoshi has to appear in public in order to contribute to Bitcoin source code. satoshi can make such contribution in a shadow and it's thanks to a real decentralization of Bitcoin, isn't it?

satoshi decided to leave our community but he did realize that there are different ways to contribute to Bitcoin.

Sum up, no good reasons to appear again in public.


Title: Re: Tell one good reason why Satoshi should come back
Post by: Upgrade00 on December 16, 2021, 12:18:36 PM
Satoshi is of course a very brilliant mind and as such, if they return to the bitcoin space (anonymously of course), they can offer a whole lot to the network as bitcoin improvement proposals and other contributions. I however think such an occurrence would take a whole lot away from the actual product and all attention would once again be about who is satoshi.

There would also be a level of centralization to how the network operates if Satoshi returns, I would say it is perfect the way it is right now.


Title: Re: Tell one good reason why Satoshi should come back
Post by: mk4 on December 16, 2021, 02:00:38 PM
Besides Satoshi coming back simply to contribute to the Bitcoin Core software, then I can't really think of anything else. The downsides simply heavily outweighs the upsides especially concerning his/her/their personal security/privacy.

And if Satoshi would come back to contribute, he/she/they should definitely do it under a different pseudonym. (assuming Satoshi isn't actually actively contributing today under a different name.)


Title: Re: Tell one good reason why Satoshi should come back
Post by: Mbitr on December 16, 2021, 02:29:32 PM
The only good reason for Satoshi to one back is to stop all the faketoshi nonsense and especially to disprove and humiliate CSW !


Title: Re: Tell one good reason why Satoshi should come back
Post by: ChiBitCTy on December 16, 2021, 02:34:45 PM
One of the main reasons why I would love to see Satoshi return would have to do with Smart Contracts.  One of my favorite (if not my favorite) Satoshi posts is the Escrow thread where he talks about being able to use code to create a no-3rd party escrow system.  I know he was referring to Smart contracts ( I even sent the post to Nick Szabo who confirmed he believes the same).  If he came back he could create this 2 way escrow system which I think would be ground breaking in finance and in the computer science area.


Title: Re: Tell one good reason why Satoshi should come back
Post by: remotemass on December 16, 2021, 02:40:56 PM
To teach us the importance of VRML to our future.

A bit random, but could not think of anything better...


Title: Re: Tell one good reason why Satoshi should come back
Post by: dkbit98 on December 16, 2021, 02:41:56 PM
There is no need for Satoshi to come back and he probably can't return because he is not alive anymore,
but one good thing would happen with his comeback and that is the fact that Faketoshi Craig Wright would finally shut up once and for all with all his nonsense.
Now when I think about it better, Faketoshi would probably start a new lawsuit against Satoshi this time, trying to prove he is not the one...  ::)


Title: Re: Tell one good reason why Satoshi should come back
Post by: The Cryptovator on December 16, 2021, 02:47:20 PM
No, there is no good reason to come back if you mean come on the public. It doesn't really necessary to come on the public to contribute to his own kingdom. Even he can prove that all claimed Satoshi Nakamoto are fake just by signing a message from his Bitcoin address. We don't know if he is still alive, if he is alive then definitely he is reading forum threads and current discussions about him. But he is one of the most brilliant person in the world who creates Bitcoin for us. He knows better what he should do. But if he comes on public then Bitcoin likely will be semi-decentralized like others altcoin.


Title: Re: Tell one good reason why Satoshi should come back
Post by: avikz on December 16, 2021, 03:02:05 PM
It is possible, that Satoshi is/are reading all these bitcointalk contributions ... and although some pepole want him/her/them to come back, nothing happened.
Tell one good reason why Satoshi should come back. (good reason = improvement of Bitcoin)

I don't see any good reason for Satoshi to come back. The bitcoin source code can be updated by anyone which then needs to score 95% confidence from the miners to get updated to the source code. So Satoshi can do it even after staying anonymous. But yes, if Satoshi comes back and then make the changes then it will be easier to win miner's confidence.

I would say, Satoshi must stay anonymous for the rest of his life! I strongly feel that these lawsuit of Craig Wright is a staged incident by FBI to lure Satoshi out. Because obviously Craig doesn't have access to Satoshi's stash of bitcoins.


Title: Re: Tell one good reason why Satoshi should come back
Post by: naira on December 16, 2021, 03:17:45 PM
The only good reason for Satoshi to one back is to stop all the faketoshi nonsense and especially to disprove and humiliate CSW !

Agree, this was much more than I expected and silenced the mouths that wanted to show off as if he was the real one. Until then, the confession will never be acknowledged. If Satoshi needed to come back, he would only have to say a word or two and all I wanted to hear from him the most was to say "I'm fine". ;D

That's far more than enough. Lol


Title: Re: Tell one good reason why Satoshi should come back
Post by: marine4u on December 16, 2021, 03:29:48 PM
I don't expect Mr. Satoshi to come back for whatever reason and no one can determine that either.  It can be staged to create fakes and Fud that seriously affects bitcoin.  In part, I think Satoshi's anonymity is the strength of bitcoin although I also hope to see him back as a token of gratitude that he still exists.  But it seems that was calculated in his mind when building automated mechanisms for bitcoin, even increasing hashrate and halving.


Title: Re: Tell one good reason why Satoshi should come back
Post by: DOH! on December 16, 2021, 04:46:45 PM
The only good reason for Satoshi to one back is to stop all the faketoshi nonsense and especially to disprove and humiliate CSW !
I don't think that matters when there are other temptations and dangers that can be created for bitcoin. Lol, no need to care about CSW because bitcoiner will know what's right and he's obviously a ridiculous person. 1. Satoshi proactively anonymized from the very beginning of all his things. 2. bitcoin is becoming perfect and that gives it the power as an "invulnerable" achievement. Therefore, I do not expect any appearance of the real Satoshi. I have no idea with this interesting reason. Bitcoin should be the most special to the rest.


Title: Re: Tell one good reason why Satoshi should come back
Post by: so98nn on December 16, 2021, 04:48:10 PM
Just want him to come back so that I can see the face behind the hi-tech development like blockchain. I mean just imagine he talking all about his experience while he was working on it through his lifetime. It’s biggest achievement that he has made and I barely doubt that anyone would create something like this one more time. Moreover, I wanna really see someone who had been undercover for so many years and suddenly they appear in front of the whole world seeing how he created trillion dollar industry in a decade.

This would be so much astounding moment for everyone of us.

I think, he must come in front of the world to change the destiny one more time.


Title: Re: Tell one good reason why Satoshi should come back
Post by: mk4 on December 16, 2021, 05:07:32 PM
The only good reason for Satoshi to one back is to stop all the faketoshi nonsense and especially to disprove and humiliate CSW !

I'm not sure if I would call this a "good" reason for Satoshi to come back, but it would surely be a really hilarious that would immediately make CSW a huge laughing stock(oh wait, he already is).

^With that said, I'm pretty certain that it isn't worth risking opsec for something(the CSW fiasco) we know is really silly in the first place.


Title: Re: Tell one good reason why Satoshi should come back
Post by: hugeblack on December 16, 2021, 05:50:28 PM
If Satoshi comes back today and wants to make some real changes, he may not be able to do or Bitcoin will be a central currency influenced by the decisions of the main developer.
The part that will affect Bitcoin is the number of coins owned by Satoshi, which some estimates indicate that it is about a million coins and therefore may affect the price significantly, since those coins may be sold at some point instead of being lost forever, and therefore major corrections must occur for the price.

In short, the return of Satoshi will negatively affect the currency in one way or another. He can also contribute to the development of the code without revealing his identity.


Title: Re: Tell one good reason why Satoshi should come back
Post by: DooMAD on December 16, 2021, 05:56:47 PM
The only good reason for Satoshi to one back is to stop all the faketoshi nonsense and especially to disprove and humiliate CSW !

One could argue Faketoshi is already disproven and humiliated.  Some people just haven't figured it out yet. 

And it wouldn't surprise me at all if some of the die-hard Faketoshi cultists still supported their false messiah even if the real satoshi did return to sign some messages or whatever.  Like flat-earthers and other conspiracy theorist wingnuts, there's just no way to convince them that they're wrong.  You could provide mountains of evidence and they'll still happily believe in fairytales.


Title: Re: Tell one good reason why Satoshi should come back
Post by: DdmrDdmr on December 16, 2021, 06:13:44 PM
To reedit the Welcome Message for the real new Bitcointalk forum software, version DeLuxe … :
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Welcome to the new Bitcoin forum! <…>

See: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5.msg28#msg28

Just kidding …

Frankly, I’d say that the best possible outcome for bitcoin is to stay put, and besides deauthorizing others as already mentioned, which ideally would still be done in a provable yet anonymous manner, I can’t really see the need or benefit currently.


Title: Re: Tell one good reason why Satoshi should come back
Post by: RapTarX on December 16, 2021, 06:30:18 PM
The only good reason for Satoshi to one back is to stop all the faketoshi nonsense and especially to disprove and humiliate CSW !
There's no way CSW can prove himself Satoshi unless he is not (which is not indeed). Only satoshi can prove that he is the real satoshi. Would anyone believe if satoshi come back and say he is satoshi. No, we would certainly need him to sign PGP key.


Title: Re: Tell one good reason why Satoshi should come back
Post by: Alisha-k on December 16, 2021, 06:37:50 PM
I believe Satoshi left for a reason and for whatever reason that is, am quite sure he's doing well......
He could be here with us though anonymously of course but if there's a reason I'll want him back then it can only be for CSW's sake.

Who knows if Satoshi is still alive??


Title: Re: Tell one good reason why Satoshi should come back
Post by: syedzakir on December 16, 2021, 06:41:14 PM
Satoshi's comeback must be having a dramatic effect.
On one side it can brings some innovation in bitcoin currency and everyone would be having a positive view about it. Buyers would be taking at all times high.
Secondly, those who are pretending to be satoshi will start opposing and would be trying to demand proofs wether he is real or not.
This conflict could affect BTC.


Title: Re: Tell one good reason why Satoshi should come back
Post by: icopress on December 16, 2021, 06:58:40 PM
The only good reason for Satoshi to one back is to stop all the faketoshi nonsense and especially to disprove and humiliate CSW !
I would not call Craig Wright's exposure a compelling reason for Satoshi's return, especially given the fact that the cryptocurrency community is quite successful in countering the lies that Craig spews out. But, by and large, we do not even need to oppose Craig and his community, since he is already tightening the noose around his own neck, because normal sane people under no circumstances will want to be part of such a toxic community.

Moreover, you don't need to be a genius to understand that Craig doesn't really care even about his brainchild [I don't even want to delve into his true intentions], since every lawsuit he initiates has an extremely negative impact on the prevalence of Bitcoin SV, (I hope you understand what I mean).  ;)


Title: Re: Tell one good reason why Satoshi should come back
Post by: Imran232 on December 16, 2021, 07:22:00 PM
If he comes, that will be very good for the botcoin community. He can update this technology with his brilliant brain to make it more reliable, but he knows if he comes back, not only he but the whole community might face the problem with bitcoin. He understands that bitcoin is untraceable, but he is trackable; if he uses a bitcoin forum, the world can find him, and the so-called government can put pressure on him to stop the bitcoin service and anything else that could be harmful to bitcoin; he also faces a life risk.the community, he left this forum, which is the best of what he knows. This demonstrates how forward-thinking Satoshi Nakamoto was, sir.He knows if he comes back to improve bitcoin, then he might stop bitcoin too.


Title: Re: Tell one good reason why Satoshi should come back
Post by: Oceat on December 16, 2021, 07:24:09 PM
It is possible, that Satoshi is/are reading all these bitcointalk contributions ... and although some pepole want him/her/them to come back, nothing happened.
Tell one good reason why Satoshi should come back. (good reason = improvement of Bitcoin)

I don't see any good reason for Satoshi to come back. The bitcoin source code can be updated by anyone which then needs to score 95% confidence from the miners to get updated to the source code. So Satoshi can do it even after staying anonymous. But yes, if Satoshi comes back and then make the changes then it will be easier to win miner's confidence.

I would say, Satoshi must stay anonymous for the rest of his life! I strongly feel that these lawsuit of Craig Wright is a staged incident by FBI to lure Satoshi out. Because obviously Craig doesn't have access to Satoshi's stash of bitcoins.
This is what I thought too and its like using the sympathy of the people to lure him/them out using the acting skills involving lawsuit. But Satoshi isn't buying those drama hence no matter what they do they can't force someone if they don't have something from him/her/them.

And I believe there's no need for a good reason to let Satoshi show up or come back since the answers above me are a proof that Satoshi can participate anonymously in the shadows without risking their privacy. And I think Satoshi already know what would happen if he suddenly shows up.


Title: Re: Tell one good reason why Satoshi should come back
Post by: Ozero on December 16, 2021, 07:24:20 PM
good reason = improvement of Bitcoin
Improvement of Bitcoin source code is one of good reasons, I agree.

However, it does not mean satoshi has to appear in public in order to contribute to Bitcoin source code. satoshi can make such contribution in a shadow and it's thanks to a real decentralization of Bitcoin, isn't it?

satoshi decided to leave our community but he did realize that there are different ways to contribute to Bitcoin.

Sum up, no good reasons to appear again in public.
The improvement in bitcoin is really now a serious and very compelling reason for the possible appearance of Satoshi Nakamoto due to the fact that individual groups still cannot agree on how they see his future. This is not even necessary in order to say how to improve bitcoin, but at least in order to decide with your authority the question in which direction to improve it. However, we understand that Satoshi Nakamoto will never reveal himself, because he deliberately hid his identity from the public and quite a long time has passed.


Title: Re: Tell one good reason why Satoshi should come back
Post by: teosanru on December 16, 2021, 07:38:25 PM
It is possible, that Satoshi is/are reading all these bitcointalk contributions ... and although some pepole want him/her/them to come back, nothing happened.
Tell one good reason why Satoshi should come back. (good reason = improvement of Bitcoin)
One good reason why he should come back is to tell everyone the intent and the purpose behind creating this great technology, Whitepaper does gives you a lot of details about why this was created but still listen to it from the person who created this system altogether would be a different experience. Secondly, he might be such a brilliant brain because he thought of something like this and this type of brain can be used in the future too to create some even better technologies or even solve the problems that layer 1 blockchains are today facing.


Title: Re: Tell one good reason why Satoshi should come back
Post by: BITCOIN4X on December 16, 2021, 07:54:24 PM
In short, the return of Satoshi will negatively affect the currency in one way or another. He can also contribute to the development of the code without revealing his identity.
I hope he doesn't stalk this discussion despite some of my beliefs about him still contributing to this forum and bitcoin in any way.
Without activating the wallet then I think satoshi can still contribute behind the scenes just by emailing the bitcoin developer or something. So far I have never heard of an administrator who was accused of being a satoshi to provide information about satoshi at least as long as I am active in this forum. So anything is still possible about satoshi but if he appears then we will only get 2 impacts and that is positive about CSW false claim and negative on price.


Title: Re: Tell one good reason why Satoshi should come back
Post by: Sled on December 16, 2021, 08:28:25 PM
It is possible, that Satoshi is/are reading all these bitcointalk contributions ... and although some pepole want him/her/them to come back, nothing happened.

I guess he's not reading anymore but it probably he is only checking the market trend.

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Tell one good reason why Satoshi should come back. (good reason = improvement of Bitcoin)
I don't think there is a need. People had already accepted that the creator has been gone for many years and maybe, he had just been forgotten. If ever he got back, that would be the time to show in public and tell his story and that people know who he is. But doubt it can be done as he tends not to show it rather keep anonymous till he dies.

With his contribution, I think it was enough. In fact, the only we wanted to change is the instant transfer nothing else, I think.


Title: Re: Tell one good reason why Satoshi should come back
Post by: mynonce on December 16, 2021, 08:33:48 PM
It is possible, that Satoshi is/are reading all these bitcointalk contributions ... and although some pepole want him/her/them to come back, nothing happened.
I guess he's not reading anymore but it probably he is only checking the market trend.
My intention was, to give Satoshi the opportunity to read, what the bitcoin community thinks, why he should come back. Maybe Satoshi would like to ask that question, but didn't know how to do it  :)


Title: Re: Tell one good reason why Satoshi should come back
Post by: JoyMarsha on December 16, 2021, 11:09:23 PM
Satoshi should keep on being anonymous as he is. No one would ever believe if he comes out to say he is the one "Satoshi Nekamato". His showing up won't make the whole world accept bitcoin wholeheartedly. Am just being okay by how far bitcoin has gone.
Satoshi will be anonymously happy wherever he is by now, of not reviewing his identity up till this moment


Title: Re: Tell one good reason why Satoshi should come back
Post by: Ryker1 on December 16, 2021, 11:21:51 PM
It is possible, that Satoshi is/are reading all these bitcointalk contributions ... and although some pepole want him/her/them to come back, nothing happened.
Tell one good reason why Satoshi should come back. (good reason = improvement of Bitcoin)
Well, that is a good reason but I think it is not necessary because it could be his life will perhaps in a risk.
There are too many people who are claiming a faketoshi and for sure this will have a big controversy in all of those people who are claiming they are a bitcoin creator. Satoshi is a very smart guy if there is a chance that the bitcoin creator will come back I think he/she will silently develop the source code of the bitcoin into a better one.


Title: Re: Tell one good reason why Satoshi should come back
Post by: TelolettOm on December 16, 2021, 11:38:17 PM
Should Satoshi come back again to show and also support the Bitcoin development?
I don't think so. Satoshi, whoever he is or they are, must have certain reasons why they or he don't want to be exposed to the world. And it means that it is enough and even the real Satoshi is reading, I don't think that he want to reveal about himself or even come back again because this may not conform to the first objectives.
Btw, we don't know who exactly Satoshi, and we know that today some people are impersonating as Satoshi.
There is no reason Satoshi to come back again. let it be 


Title: Re: Tell one good reason why Satoshi should come back
Post by: kaggie on December 17, 2021, 12:05:45 AM
For history. For records. History is very important, and it would tell us a lot about what an individual can accomplish. What was the real motivation? How much skill did that person have? It's thinking about future generations and not just our own. They deserve to know as much as they can about the origins of this.

I hope that Satoshi wasn't so stupid to have erased everything that would prove their connection to the origins of bitcoin.

Even if the economy crashed with his reveal, it would recover. Bitcoin is the most scarce globally-accepted digital item to exist to date, and his reveal wouldn't change that. It's a new economy.


Title: Re: Tell one good reason why Satoshi should come back
Post by: valentine wheeler on December 17, 2021, 01:54:43 AM
To teach us the importance of VRML to our future.

A bit random, but could not think of anything better...
There is no reason to come back, and no reason to disappear. The decentralized spirit does not mean that people disappear, unless life is in danger.


Title: Re: Tell one good reason why Satoshi should come back
Post by: adzino on December 17, 2021, 01:56:10 AM
It is possible, that Satoshi is/are reading all these bitcointalk contributions ... and although some pepole want him/her/them to come back, nothing happened.
Tell one good reason why Satoshi should come back. (good reason = improvement of Bitcoin)
There is no reason for him to come back. Bitcoin is a decentralized currency. If he comes back, people are going to consider him as a central figure of bitcoin. Anything he does or says will have a huge influence in the bitcoin market. And lets not forget about the FUDs that are going to be spreading when he comes back. I am sure some people will start panic selling because they will think Satoshi might sell his coins. Bitcoin has been developing well for decades without Satoshi. Other than knowing who the creator is, I doubt anything good or new will happen when Satoshi returns.


Title: Re: Tell one good reason why Satoshi should come back
Post by: mindrust on December 17, 2021, 02:32:10 AM
I don't see any reason for him to come back. It would do more bad than good imo. It would hurt the decentralized image of bitcoin. Look at ETH for example. Most people see ETH as a company with a CEO (Vitalik). When you ask people the current owner of bitcoin, they can't answer. Everybody knows that Vitalik manages ETH though.


Title: Re: Tell one good reason why Satoshi should come back
Post by: LogitechMouse on December 17, 2021, 03:54:08 AM
It is possible, that Satoshi is/are reading all these bitcointalk contributions ... and although some pepole want him/her/them to come back, nothing happened.
Tell one good reason why Satoshi should come back. (good reason = improvement of Bitcoin)
Help the developers to make developments and upgrades into Bitcoin.

I think this is already a good reason why Satoshi should come back but we already know that this will not happen..... or it is happening already but in silence. Either way, helping the developers to upgrade Bitcoin would be the best reason why Satoshi should come back. On the other hand though, I don't think that Satoshi shouldn't come back anymore because there might be a possibility that he/she/they might trace his/her/their whereabouts and it might also cause Satoshi's anonymity to disappear so I think its better if Satoshi shouldn't come back anymore. Anyway, Bitcoin is in good hands already :).


Title: Re: Tell one good reason why Satoshi should come back
Post by: michellee on December 17, 2021, 09:01:14 AM
Satoshi is not easily come back here or show to the public because he already left this forum and decided to do another thing. He can come back here without telling us that he is the real Satoshi and maybe he is already online here but we do not know for sure. He has his choice to come back or still hide somewhere so no matter what happens to this forum, he can still hide. But I am not sure if something bad happens to bitcoin or blockchain, he can come back to fix everything. But that is just speculation.


Title: Re: Tell one good reason why Satoshi should come back
Post by: Dump3er on December 17, 2021, 10:57:15 AM
Besides Satoshi coming back simply to contribute to the Bitcoin Core software, then I can't really think of anything else. The downsides simply heavily outweighs the upsides especially concerning his/her/their personal security/privacy.

And if Satoshi would come back to contribute, he/she/they should definitely do it under a different pseudonym. (assuming Satoshi isn't actually actively contributing today under a different name.)

As long he isn't necessarily interested in receiving the Noble Prize, there is really no incentive to reveal the identity behind the pseudonym Satoshi. I don't even care who he is. The one thing I would like to know is whether Satoshi's coins will ever be moved in the future.


Title: Re: Tell one good reason why Satoshi should come back
Post by: mk4 on December 17, 2021, 01:54:45 PM
As long he isn't necessarily interested in receiving the Noble Prize, there is really no incentive to reveal the identity behind the pseudonym Satoshi. I don't even care who he is. The one thing I would like to know is whether Satoshi's coins will ever be moved in the future.

Does the Nobel Prizen even have to be sort of "claimed"? I've seen a lot of times people on Twitter saying that Satoshi should win the Nobel Peace Prize; so I just assumed it can be awarded to dead/missing/anonymous people.


Title: Re: Tell one good reason why Satoshi should come back
Post by: crussaders1411 on December 17, 2021, 03:14:29 PM
If Satoshi Nakamoto returns, it will be a nightmare for bitcoin, Satoshi will be sought by state intelligence to delete his creation, because Satoshi's creation damages state finances around the world because Satoshi's creation is not protected by international law.
I don't agree if Satoshi comes back let it be mysterious forever


Title: Re: Tell one good reason why Satoshi should come back
Post by: DooMAD on December 17, 2021, 04:10:59 PM
Satoshi will be sought by state intelligence to delete his creation

Delete it how?  We've all got copies of the code.  There's no undoing this.  It can't be un-invented.  Not even satoshi can stop it.




Title: Re: Tell one good reason why Satoshi should come back
Post by: pawanjain on December 17, 2021, 04:18:08 PM
good reason = improvement of Bitcoin
Improvement of Bitcoin source code is one of good reasons, I agree.

However, it does not mean satoshi has to appear in public in order to contribute to Bitcoin source code. satoshi can make such contribution in a shadow and it's thanks to a real decentralization of Bitcoin, isn't it?

satoshi decided to leave our community but he did realize that there are different ways to contribute to Bitcoin.

Sum up, no good reasons to appear again in public.

What if he is actually contributing to the bitcoin core because we just don't know who he actually is.
And what if there are better coders than Satoshi at present who are contributing to the bitcoin core already.

To be honest, I don't want the identity of Satoshi to be revealed because I think his anonymity is a big reason why people believe in bitcoin.


Title: Re: Tell one good reason why Satoshi should come back
Post by: Gosgosking on December 17, 2021, 04:39:55 PM
I think I missed him, i would love the sense of how he communicates, I would love to take his word and Idea. This will do a lot in my life and I'll be proud in a place like this with such a noble man. His contribution here is enough for him to be back here.


Title: Re: Tell one good reason why Satoshi should come back
Post by: Argoo on December 17, 2021, 05:24:27 PM
I don't see any reason for him to come back. It would do more bad than good imo. It would hurt the decentralized image of bitcoin. Look at ETH for example. Most people see ETH as a company with a CEO (Vitalik). When you ask people the current owner of bitcoin, they can't answer. Everybody knows that Vitalik manages ETH though.
Yes, Buterin runs ETH with other co-founders. This allows you to quickly make decisions, and find a way out of difficult situations and be updated in a timely manner. However, there is no close-knit team behind Bitcoin; consensus is rarely reached on any issues. Therefore, complete decentralization gains in some way and loses in some way.
In this situation, Satoshi Nakamoto is hardly worth publishing himself. In the absence of a creator, no one can apply for a patent on the invention of bitcoin and it remains completely decentralized.


Title: Re: Tell one good reason why Satoshi should come back
Post by: dunfida on December 17, 2021, 06:21:32 PM
It is possible, that Satoshi is/are reading all these bitcointalk contributions ... and although some pepole want him/her/them to come back, nothing happened.
Tell one good reason why Satoshi should come back. (good reason = improvement of Bitcoin)
Good reason?
You had mentioned about improvement in Bitcoin but do you really think that it would really be worth on showing up himself for the sake of that?
Bitcoin is already good and enough in terms of functionality and its overall benefits in terms of p2p payment system and the demand itself
is the proof of that and theres no need for him to show up.

What for? Yes, its really good to see the creator of the thing that we are supporting as of this moment but he do still have the final choice and we dont even know if this man is still alive or had just decided to be anonymous on final.


Title: Re: Tell one good reason why Satoshi should come back
Post by: ipanks on December 18, 2021, 07:52:52 AM
I do not think we have one good reason why Satoshi should come back because that will be up to him. We can ask him to come back here, but we cannot force him to back here if he does not want to do that. Meanwhile, we do not know who he is and where he lived and we only ask from here. Let us let him do whatever he wants while we can focus on what we did. He will come back if he wants and until that time, we do not have to bother him and can only say thanks to him.


Title: Re: Tell one good reason why Satoshi should come back
Post by: dothebeats on December 18, 2021, 08:25:20 AM
I can't think any reason which is logical and important enough for Satoshi to consider coming back to the scene. There are some obviously selfish reasons like we need a figurehead or something for bitcoin but that kinda defeats the ethos of the cryptocurrency.  Anyways, even if we think of that perfect reason for him to come back, I don't think he'll ever want to again. There's just too much that happened already and this is what he really wanted anyways: for bitcoin to grow without him and not really depending on one central figure.


Title: Re: Tell one good reason why Satoshi should come back
Post by: Chato1977 on December 18, 2021, 10:47:56 AM
It is possible, that Satoshi is/are reading all these bitcointalk contributions
Nothing is impossible actually , The creator/s is/are human/s so if there is something they wanna do that is to observe and protect the interest of their creation.

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... and although some pepole want him/her/them to come back, nothing happened.
There is none that can demand or push satohi to come to the open again.


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Tell one good reason why Satoshi should come back. (good reason = improvement of Bitcoin)
Every reason are already Given , this forum is more than enough reason but what happens? nothing? meaning satoshi don't wanna show up again(maybe not in our time now)


Title: Re: Tell one good reason why Satoshi should come back
Post by: Lucius on December 18, 2021, 02:48:39 PM
Tell one good reason why Satoshi should come back. (good reason = improvement of Bitcoin)

I don't believe you mean technical improvement, but you probably imagine that some kind of massive pump would happen then. I believe the exact opposite would happen, as most media would focus on the alleged 1+ million BTC mined by Satoshi and the possibility of him dumping them on the market. If Satoshi is alive, he knows very well that it is best to remain anonymous not only for the reason already stated, but also for his own safety.

According to the above, I do not find any good reason why Satoshi should return.


Title: Re: Tell one good reason why Satoshi should come back
Post by: geegaw on December 18, 2021, 04:57:18 PM
I do not think we have one good reason why Satoshi should come back because that will be up to him. We can ask him to come back here, but we cannot force him to back here if he does not want to do that. Meanwhile, we do not know who he is and where he lived and we only ask from here. Let us let him do whatever he wants while we can focus on what we did. He will come back if he wants and until that time, we do not have to bother him and can only say thanks to him.
The good reason that many people mentioned is probably just being curious about someone who has such genius creative skills, it's like Satoshi's mystery makes people wonder about his appearance but as you say, Satoshi doesn't want to be bothered and there may be many obstacles in the background between the government and the mysterious groups. Without further hinting about Satoshi's whereabouts and identity is our great expression of gratitude, causing trouble and making the relationship not harmonious can most likely cause him to come up with crazy ways of handling


Title: Re: Tell one good reason why Satoshi should come back
Post by: realcrypto on December 18, 2021, 11:00:54 PM
I am not seeing any reason why Satoshi should come back if you mean Him or Her making His or Her identity known publicly. He can still remain anonymous and improve anything that is necessary.


Title: Re: Tell one good reason why Satoshi should come back
Post by: passwordnow on December 18, 2021, 11:05:55 PM
It is possible, that Satoshi is/are reading all these bitcointalk contributions ... and although some pepole want him/her/them to come back, nothing happened.
Possible if he/she, they are still alive.

Tell one good reason why Satoshi should come back. (good reason = improvement of Bitcoin)
I don't know if there's a need for him to come back and surprise us. What he has done is more than enough already. Well, if he comes back and sees the project that he started is already big, he'd surely be proud of it.


Title: Re: Tell one good reason why Satoshi should come back
Post by: shogun47 on December 18, 2021, 11:08:58 PM
I do not think we have one good reason why Satoshi should come back because that will be up to him. We can ask him to come back here, but we cannot force him to back here if he does not want to do that. Meanwhile, we do not know who he is and where he lived and we only ask from here. Let us let him do whatever he wants while we can focus on what we did. He will come back if he wants and until that time, we do not have to bother him and can only say thanks to him.
The good reason that many people mentioned is probably just being curious about someone who has such genius creative skills, it's like Satoshi's mystery makes people wonder about his appearance but as you say, Satoshi doesn't want to be bothered and there may be many obstacles in the background between the government and the mysterious groups. Without further hinting about Satoshi's whereabouts and identity is our great expression of gratitude, causing trouble and making the relationship not harmonious can most likely cause him to come up with crazy ways of handling

I believe that Satoshi has always been around using a different Pseudonym or even his real name and is perhaps a public person. We just won't find out who exactly is behind the pseudonym Satoshi Nakamoto. He could be literally anyone in the crypto space. What are the odds that someone who develops the code for Bitcoin then completely stops participating in the digital revolution he or she initiated? Isn't it more likely that he also contributes to code bases for anonymous coins and other stuff he understands well when it comes to cryptocurrencies? I think the only realistic scenario where we could assume that Satoshi completely quit is when he or she was already very old. If that is not the case, I can't imagine how someone in his 40s or even 50s launches Bitcoin and says goodbye.


Title: Re: Tell one good reason why Satoshi should come back
Post by: Slow death on December 18, 2021, 11:19:32 PM
in my opinion satoshi should show up for 1 day just so that we never hear again these faketoshis who appear every year to ridicule the community and something else satoshi should show up 1 day to unite the community and maybe some people put their hands on conscience and stop of making nonsense shitcoins like bitcoin jesus, a lot of people lost track, every day we have so many shitcoins that you keep thinking that in just 1 year we will already be over 100,000 nonsense shitcoins


Title: Re: Tell one good reason why Satoshi should come back
Post by: Vaskiy on December 18, 2021, 11:59:52 PM
Without some plans Satoshi could never keep his identity hidden from the world. For a person/team who had innovated such a big thing revealing his identity could bring him fame, but he hasn't taken the note. He has given the innovation to the world and stays away, which means it has got some reason. People around have got different views on his identity reveal, as some people have started to themselves as Satoshi without proper proof.

My opinion on his identity reveal, let him stay away. It is our responsibility to take the innovation to the next level of adoption eliminating the middle man for which the innovation happened.


Title: Re: Tell one good reason why Satoshi should come back
Post by: Bitcoldcash on December 19, 2021, 12:18:37 AM
It is possible, that Satoshi is/are reading all these bitcointalk contributions ... and although some pepole want him/her/them to come back, nothing happened.
Possible if he/she, they are still alive.

Tell one good reason why Satoshi should come back. (good reason = improvement of Bitcoin)
I don't know if there's a need for him to come back and surprise us. What he has done is more than enough already. Well, if he comes back and sees the project that he started is already big, he'd surely be proud of it.
No way of really telling if the person is still alive. When billions/trillions of dollars are involved, #STRANGE events always occur.


Title: Re: Tell one good reason why Satoshi should come back
Post by: ipanks on December 19, 2021, 02:15:58 AM
I do not think we have one good reason why Satoshi should come back because that will be up to him. We can ask him to come back here, but we cannot force him to back here if he does not want to do that. Meanwhile, we do not know who he is and where he lived and we only ask from here. Let us let him do whatever he wants while we can focus on what we did. He will come back if he wants and until that time, we do not have to bother him and can only say thanks to him.
The good reason that many people mentioned is probably just being curious about someone who has such genius creative skills, it's like Satoshi's mystery makes people wonder about his appearance but as you say, Satoshi doesn't want to be bothered and there may be many obstacles in the background between the government and the mysterious groups. Without further hinting about Satoshi's whereabouts and identity is our great expression of gratitude, causing trouble and making the relationship not harmonious can most likely cause him to come up with crazy ways of handling
Ok, let say Satoshi shows himself to us in this forum, providing any evidence that he/she/they are the real Satoshi with a sign in the wallet address. What next? That can only make him in danger because, at the same time, many people will hunt him/her/them because they want to ask more about blockchain and his background, not including the government with their agency. Can we imagine what will happen to him/her/them if that happens? We can feel satisfied because we finally know him/her/them but what about him/her/them? Can we guarantee him/her/them to be safe from any disturbing or mess that can happen later? I guess not ;D


Title: Re: Tell one good reason why Satoshi should come back
Post by: Emitdama on December 19, 2021, 08:09:59 AM
It is possible, that Satoshi is/are reading all these bitcointalk contributions ... and although some pepole want him/her/them to come back, nothing happened.
Tell one good reason why Satoshi should come back. (good reason = improvement of Bitcoin)
Personally I don’t really see the need for having Satoshi Nakamoto back. If he should come back, there’s likely going to be a change in the price of Bitcoin, and is more likely to be a decline. Why I am saying that it is more likely going to be a decline in the price of Bitcoin is because, they hold the largest amount of the coin, and if they should intend to withdraw it whenever they show up or take anything out from that amount that is in that address, it is going to affect the market heavily and it will drop.

This will in turn affect other crypto currencies (altcoins) in the market, such as ethereum, and others that their prices correlates with Bitcoin. Bitcoin has kept progressing whether there is Satoshi Nakamoto or not, so why do we even need them now? If he or they decides to stay out of the picture, then we should let him be.


Title: Re: Tell one good reason why Satoshi should come back
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on December 20, 2021, 11:03:25 PM
Although I am not in favor of Satoshi returning as it would be a public judging piece from authorities around the world, I would like it to appear just to show the world how ignorant they are in believing that Craig is the real Satoshi, at least . For those of the governments that recognize him as Satoshi, and for those who pose as him, I would like you to thank him with a signed message letting him know that some things are still wrong.



Title: Re: Tell one good reason why Satoshi should come back
Post by: Rengga Jati on December 20, 2021, 11:48:59 PM
I ma not exactly expecting that he will come back. Because what I know is that Satoshi decided to leave anonymously without anybody know who he is or who they are actually.
And we must appreciate and honor his or their decisional t that time.
Maybe he is laughing right now because seeing so many people focus  on Satoshi, moreover some are impersonating as him or them.
But no matter what, there may be no reason why Satoshi must come back again and reveal himself.


Title: Re: Tell one good reason why Satoshi should come back
Post by: BuNga_cute on December 21, 2021, 01:35:32 AM
I ma not exactly expecting that he will come back. Because what I know is that Satoshi decided to leave anonymously without anybody know who he is or who they are actually.
And we must appreciate and honor his or their decisional t that time.
Maybe he is laughing right now because seeing so many people focus  on Satoshi, moreover some are impersonating as him or them.
But no matter what, there may be no reason why Satoshi must come back again and reveal himself.

When I was a newbie and didn't really understand how Bitcoin worked, I was still very curious about the identity of Satoshi Nakamoto. But after
a few years of investing in Bitcoin and starting to understand how Bitcoin works, I don't feel the need to know Satoshi Nakamoto's identity,
let alone expect Satoshi Nakamoto to come back. Because if Satoshi Nakamoto decides to come back, it won't make a difference to me.
Still I have to rely on myself to survive in the crypto world and make a profit from Bitcoin. I agree with you, there is no reason for Satoshi Nakamoto
to risk his life by appearing in public. After all, Bitcoin has so far been able to run and develop well without having Satoshi Nakamoto come back.
So we should all respect Satoshi Nakamoto's decision to remain anonymous until now. After all, the most important thing right now is that we're
better off just focusing on Bitcoin.


Title: Re: Tell one good reason why Satoshi should come back
Post by: kanayaTabitha on December 21, 2021, 02:07:58 AM
I ma not exactly expecting that he will come back. Because what I know is that Satoshi decided to leave anonymously without anybody know who he is or who they are actually.
And we must appreciate and honor his or their decisional t that time.
Maybe he is laughing right now because seeing so many people focus  on Satoshi, moreover some are impersonating as him or them.
But no matter what, there may be no reason why Satoshi must come back again and reveal himself.

I was imagine in my mind, he will reveal himself with some clear evidences that he is the real satoshi when the market crash and people are no longer use bitcoin and crypto, and it turns out he is the one of most powerful people in the world and he announced they will get serious on bitcoin developing and people starts buying bitcoin again then create new all time high.
Anyway it's just my random imagination  :D


Title: Re: Tell one good reason why Satoshi should come back
Post by: btc78 on December 21, 2021, 02:28:37 AM
It is possible, that Satoshi is/are reading all these bitcointalk contributions ... and although some pepole want him/her/them to come back, nothing happened.
Tell one good reason why Satoshi should come back. (good reason = improvement of Bitcoin)
What Improvement needed for Bitcoin ? maybe best if you also mention  something that will tell satoshi of why he must come back and not just random thoughts .

For me it is not the improvement that he must come back but to claim what he deserves to get from His futuristic creation that we all wanted to Thank him personally .

I will not mention tha risk of Him getting out of his Hiding place because of His life and because of the threat might happen from the international agencies .


Title: Re: Tell one good reason why Satoshi should come back
Post by: yazher on December 21, 2021, 02:30:39 AM
The only good reason for Satoshi to one back is to stop all the faketoshi nonsense and especially to disprove and humiliate CSW !

I don't think he shows himself just for that since those guys are no longer become a candidate when they're messed up with their fake narrations and claimed something that is not theirs. Now if there is one reason for him to show again, that's to announce that the further development and to make bitcoin official money of the world and the good thing about it? the banks can't do anything but adopt whatever updates he gives.


Title: Re: Tell one good reason why Satoshi should come back
Post by: Jasad on December 21, 2021, 05:15:57 AM
The reason I personally want satoshi back, is to reject all the words that say he is satoshi, he is the one who has discovered bitcoin, maybe that's the reason I want satoshi back, so that we are no longer influenced by fake satoshi who want to take advantage of opportunities..


Title: Re: Tell one good reason why Satoshi should come back
Post by: Ararbermas on December 21, 2021, 12:22:45 PM
For me satoshi need to come back because he need to claim what he needs to claim when it comes bitcoin and his name as well  because to be honest there's a bunch of impostor nowadays around the internet even in public places.. Lol we need him to slap those idiots that can't provide strong proofs what's their claiming wherein until now..  ;D


Title: Re: Tell one good reason why Satoshi should come back
Post by: Jawhead999 on December 21, 2021, 01:14:42 PM
I see no reason why he should comeback, everything were fine and the improvement still continued by any contributor in github. Satoshi is really popular and anyone want to see/know him, there're many motive from each person to see him whenever it's good or bad. Living with big names isn't easy, you'll need many security to protect you since anyone could target you, I think that's why he avoid to publicity his appearance.


Title: Re: Tell one good reason why Satoshi should come back
Post by: NotATether on December 21, 2021, 01:36:18 PM
I believe Satoshi left for a reason and for whatever reason that is, am quite sure he's doing well......
He could be here with us though anonymously of course but if there's a reason I'll want him back then it can only be for CSW's sake.

Who knows if Satoshi is still alive??

As for me, I'm among the camp that believes Satoshi is dead (maybe a short time after disappearing??). Threads like these would be useless if that's true - you can't bring back the dead.

At least his bitcoins will never be moved. That would've been interpreted by a lot of people as Satoshi being back and it could be fatal to the bitcoin price as weak hands would go into panic sell mode.


Title: Re: Tell one good reason why Satoshi should come back
Post by: math09183 on December 21, 2021, 02:05:56 PM
What I feel is "we do not need him any more", but it would be far from reality. As Bitcoin was produced by organized government group which is currently disbanded, the project is over. Private keys for "Satoshi bitcoins" are probably kept somewhere in a safe place - or even destroyed.
There will never be a big "come back", do not waste your life thinking about it.
The idea has started, new market has been created. Altcoins, NFT, speculation, Chinese domination in crypto... all is on it's place.
Soon we will see first "federal" coins, e-yuan etc. And not, it will not bring "freedom".




Title: Re: Tell one good reason why Satoshi should come back
Post by: awik p on December 21, 2021, 02:09:46 PM
I see no reason why he should comeback, everything were fine and the improvement still continued by any contributor in github. Satoshi is really popular and anyone want to see/know him, there're many motive from each person to see him whenever it's good or bad. Living with big names isn't easy, you'll need many security to protect you since anyone could target you, I think that's why he avoid to publicity his appearance.
I think what Satoshi has been doing all this time is correct, by hiding and not showing himself in public, he has made himself more flexible in living his life. if the real identity is revealed, then I personally am not sure about its security, if you look at the good development of bitcoin until now, there are even countries that have legalized it as a currency


Title: Re: Tell one good reason why Satoshi should come back
Post by: ChiBitCTy on December 21, 2021, 02:22:01 PM
I see no reason why he should comeback, everything were fine and the improvement still continued by any contributor in github. Satoshi is really popular and anyone want to see/know him, there're many motive from each person to see him whenever it's good or bad. Living with big names isn't easy, you'll need many security to protect you since anyone could target you, I think that's why he avoid to publicity his appearance.

I think there is still plenty that Satoshi could come back and do to help improve the bitcoin ecosystem and not just something that any contributor on github can easily draw up.  There is a reason that it took the Cypherpunks so long to create a non-double spending electronic currency, IT"S NOT EASY!  Satoshi has skills that few other have on this planet and he could do a lot of good a lot quicker than many of us.


Title: Re: Tell one good reason why Satoshi should come back
Post by: Monochroic on December 22, 2021, 05:59:27 AM
If Satoshi wanted to reveal his/her identity, he/she would have never stayed a secret. If anyone ever comes up saying that they are Satoshi, I don’t think I am going to believe them.


Title: Re: Tell one good reason why Satoshi should come back
Post by: AGD on December 22, 2021, 08:11:01 AM
The only good reason for Satoshi to one back is to stop all the faketoshi nonsense and especially to disprove and humiliate CSW !

So true. He could just do a quick popup "Fuck you Craig" signing with his GPG key and disappear again. EPIC!