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Title: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: bbc.reporter on December 23, 2021, 05:50:13 AM
Odds for the Oscar Awards 2022 are presently now available in different sportsbooks. However, the nominations have not yet been made. It might be safer to bet after the no nomination of each contestant for each category. Some movies, actors and directors listed might not be nominated.

Date of announcement of nominees will be on February 8, 2022.

Date of the Oscar Awards ceremony  and presentation of winners will be on March 27, 2022

This will give everyone to sit on their couches and study movies hehehe.

What Oscar movies have each of you watched up to now? I have only watched Dune and Power of the dog. I was disappointed on Dune, I am a fan of the books. Power of the dog was boring, I did not finish it. I will watch it again as a critic if it is nominated hehe.

Best actor odds

Smith, Will 1.33
Cumberbatch, Benedict 4.40
Garfield, Andrew 7.00
Washington, Denzel 23.00
Bardem, Javier 41.00


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Best actress odds

Kidman, Nicole 1.97
Stewart, Kristen 3.50
Colman, Olivia 5.50
Chastain, Jessica 6.00
Cruz, Penelope 19.00


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Best picture odds

The Power of The Dog 1.49
Belfast 4.00
West Side Story 8.00
Coda 17.00
Licorice Pizza 21.00
Dune 23.00
King Richard 29.00
Drive MY Car 34.00
Dont Look UP 41.00
Nightmare Alley 81.00


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Best director odds

Campion, Jane 1.14
Branagh, Kenneth 11.00
Spielberg, Steven 12.00
Hamaguchi, Ryusuke 17.00
Andersson, Paul Thomas 21.00


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Best supporting actor

Smit-Mcphee, Kodi 1.41
Kotsur, Troy 3.60
Hinds, Ciaran 7.50
Simmons, Jonathan Kimble 25.00
Plemons, Jesse 27.00


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Best supporting actor

Debose, Ariana 1.20
Dunst, Kirsten 4.80
Ellis, Aunjanue 11.50
Dench, Judi 21.00
Buckley, Jessie 25.00


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Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: paxmao on December 24, 2021, 02:11:16 AM
Oh my god, Di Caprio again in there. Please, tell me he is not going to win again. I am not surprised about the movies odds - for example who was the guy that woke up one morning and decided that the world needed just another version of Dune? Really? Is like waking up in New York and thinking that the world just needs another Italian restaurant. Regarding actresses, I dislike most of them and I really do not see how Lady Gaga fits at all even in a nomination.

Should I place a bet... best movie Belfast.



Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: bbc.reporter on December 24, 2021, 04:07:49 AM
@paxmao. It will presently be a risk to bet anything before the official nomination from the academy of motion picture and arts. However, it can be speculated that if Belfast is nominated, the odds for this might go down to 1.50.

Also, another risky bet that might have a chance is Power of the Dog. It is 6.50 for best picture but the director of the movie is Jane Campion who is the favorite for best director. Some of the time the best director has the same winner for best picture.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: michellee on December 24, 2021, 04:34:15 AM
Best actor:
Dicaprio, Leonardo

Best actress:
Kidman, Nicole

Best picture:
Dune

Best director:
Scott, Ridley

I just picked my random selection on Oscar Awards as I am not yet watching all of that movies. Maybe later I will watch one by one to see if my choice is still the same or I need to change it ;D

Good to see DiCaprio is one of the nominees of the Oscar Awards ;D

Dune is like a Star Trek with a laser beam everywhere ;D

I am not a fan of that kind of movie but I just like it ;D


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: mindrust on December 24, 2021, 04:39:59 AM
Was there even a good movie in 2021? I don't remember I watched any quality movies lately. Oscar awards lost its meaning long time ago. Seems to me they are trying to keep this tradition alive desperately. Since there aren't any decent movies, they are throwing the awards randomly now. Which means, you can't really come up with an educated guess.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: delfastTions on December 24, 2021, 06:19:47 AM
Was there even a good movie in 2021? I don't remember I watched any quality movies lately. Oscar awards lost its meaning long time ago. Seems to me they are trying to keep this tradition alive desperately. Since there aren't any decent movies, they are throwing the awards randomly now. Which means, you can't really come up with an educated guess.
Definitely, the Oscar has lost some kind of adequacy in general.  After the Oscar for the fantastic "Avatar" film, I don't remember a single film that interested me at all, so that I realized that it was worthy of an award. 
And the point here is rather that the cinema and Hollywood are gradually heading towards the crisis of the genre, interesting, let alone worthy films less and less.  And lately, and in general one rubbish with computer special effects on the screens.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: davis196 on December 24, 2021, 06:56:49 AM
I'm pretty sure that all the movies,which have a "progressive" and "liberal" message would win all the awards again. ;D
Nowadays,Hollywood is all about politics rather than good cinematography.
I'm surprised that Will Smith has such big odds of winning the "Best Actor" award.He's a decent actor,but I don't think that he's that great.
Dune had received a lot of critical appraisal,but the Dune movies usually disappoint and they can't be compared with the book.
I remember the Dune movie directed by Davis Lynch in the 80s.It was a disaster.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: delfastTions on December 24, 2021, 07:13:29 AM
I'm pretty sure that all the movies,which have a "progressive" and "liberal" message would win all the awards again. ;D
Nowadays,Hollywood is all about politics rather than good cinematography.

Yes, that is absolutely correct.  There are now so many politicians in this competition, which was originally intended to award the best films that were considered as works of art.  And now all the kaya "political correctness" to skin color, LGBT, some freaks and other nonsense is mixed here.  The first thing that comes to mind in 2021 is of course "Dune".  And even despite the good performance of the main character (Timothée Chalamet), I still cannot consider this film a "work of art"


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: Juggy777 on December 24, 2021, 09:49:50 AM
Was there even a good movie in 2021? I don't remember I watched any quality movies lately. Oscar awards lost its meaning long time ago. Seems to me they are trying to keep this tradition alive desperately. Since there aren't any decent movies, they are throwing the awards randomly now. Which means, you can't really come up with an educated guess.
Definitely, the Oscar has lost some kind of adequacy in general.  After the Oscar for the fantastic "Avatar" film, I don't remember a single film that interested me at all, so that I realized that it was worthy of an award.  
And the point here is rather that the cinema and Hollywood are gradually heading towards the crisis of the genre, interesting, let alone worthy films less and less.  And lately, and in general one rubbish with computer special effects on the screens.

@mindrust I second that because I too don’t really remember any good movies, but we have to select based on what’s available to us and this applies only if one decides to to wager on this. Also it would be nice if the OP could have a poll, because it’s would be easier to wager based on the poll results so if possible do add the poll.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: Cling18 on December 24, 2021, 10:47:00 AM
Was there even a good movie in 2021? I don't remember I watched any quality movies lately. Oscar awards lost its meaning long time ago. Seems to me they are trying to keep this tradition alive desperately. Since there aren't any decent movies, they are throwing the awards randomly now. Which means, you can't really come up with an educated guess.

I wasn't aware either but since there are already options I guess they're still worth watching. It's just that it didn't give us hype or noise so we didn't feel any excitement. However, let's see and check the options so we'll have an idea of where to bet. This is still exciting for Oscar's fans.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: Jackl87 on December 24, 2021, 11:35:23 AM
Odds for the Oscar Awards 2022 are presently now available in different sportsbooks. However, the nominations have not yet been made. It might be safer to bet after the no nomination of each contestant for each category. Some movies, actors and directors listed might not be nominated.

Date of announcement of nominees will be on February 8, 2022.


I am actually surprised, that you can bet on the outcome of the Oscar Awards to be honest. I mean there are at least 20 people at the moment i would guess that already know who will win. So those guys of the jury could just go and place a huge bet here. Or they could just tell someone that is not related to them who will win and let them bet for them and then split the rewards 50/50 because then it is not so obvious. Looking at the nominated pictures i have to admit that i have not heard of even one of them except dune, which is a remake of the old movie i guess, because i have not been to a cinema for like 2 years because of covid.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: Ziskinberg on December 24, 2021, 01:07:01 PM
I'm not so familiar with this as it's not my interest in betting, but I love to bookmark this thread to see what the majority think would win in the awarding.

If knowing only the actor/actress and movies that has a good chance to win, I will just go with the heavy favorite, but I'm not it doesn't work that way, I mean there are value on some who are currently the underdog to win and that's what I'm looking for.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: VanityWallets2015 on December 24, 2021, 01:10:20 PM
@mindrust I second that because I too don’t really remember any good movies, but we have to select based on what’s available to us and this applies only if one decides to to wager on this. Also it would be nice if the OP could have a poll, because it’s would be easier to wager based on the poll results so if possible do add the poll.

Well then, we could only choose which among these choices are better and worthy to win the award over the others. I just hope that the deserving personalities and movies will be awarded. I agree that OP should create a poll to make this more easier and efficient.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: Doell on December 24, 2021, 03:14:39 PM
Joker is the movie I've been waiting for and is the best choice to watch ,Joaquin Phoenix is a good choice but compared to Will Smith I think Will Smith continue to be an Oscar winner but the odds are very small I'm confused why Dwayne Johnson wasn't nominated an list


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: Boristhecat on December 24, 2021, 03:51:59 PM
Best actress odds

Stewart, Kristen 1.53


Quite unexpectedly, to see Kristen as the favorite for the Oscars. I thought she could never overcome that prejudice about herself after the Twilight saga:

https://i.imgur.com/Zg9ylIx.jpg

It is a pity that we will know the final results as early as next year - I am not interested in betting on such a long period. A lot can change during this time, plus I am passionate and I want to know right away whether I won or lost.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: Silberman on December 24, 2021, 04:09:22 PM
Was there even a good movie in 2021? I don't remember I watched any quality movies lately. Oscar awards lost its meaning long time ago. Seems to me they are trying to keep this tradition alive desperately. Since there aren't any decent movies, they are throwing the awards randomly now. Which means, you can't really come up with an educated guess.
LOL this is the first question that came to my mind when I saw this thread, the truth is that the majority of the movies being produced right now are of a very low quality and cannot compare to the classics of old, this is not nostalgia speaking, the quality has gone down significantly as now directors are using all kind of gimmicks and special effects in their movies instead of simply telling a good story, which is why each year less and less people watch the Oscars as there is no point to it, since they will give a lot of awards regardless of the quality of the movies they are producing.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: ultrloa on December 24, 2021, 04:27:26 PM
Joker is the movie I've been waiting for and is the best choice to watch ,Joaquin Phoenix is a good choice but compared to Will Smith I think Will Smith continue to be an Oscar winner but the odds are very small I'm confused why Dwayne Johnson wasn't nominated an list
I've been waiting for this moment and I hope they would consider Joaquin Phoenix since it was a very good movie that I've watched recently. I don't know if Dwayne Johnson would be even nominated and I think it's just fair that he's not on the list since there are too many great actors that deserves the place. Leonardo DiCaprio is a great actor yet Oscar is just too elusive to him, I don't know why is that but maybe they have their favorite picks when it comes to Oscar.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: Mauser on December 24, 2021, 04:39:07 PM
Thank you for compiling all the informations about the Oscars 2022. I love the ceremony, seeing all the stars and their excitiment about winning a small Oscar. It's the highlight of any actor in their career. What I find surprising looking at the odds is that there is already a big favourite for each category. There is a huge gap between the first three nominations. I wonder if we can exploit these odds at the moment. Without any official nominations yet everything could still change. Maybe buying some high reward actors now and waiting for the favourite actors until the nominations are made public.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: mindrust on December 24, 2021, 04:59:29 PM
Hollywood died because of our sins. If we weren't torrenting the shit out of them, they would be still alive and kicking now.  :P

Because of that, the best we got is shitty netflix productions full of sjw & lbgt propaganda.

We are the victims of our own greed.

Look how they massacred my boi. The Matrix Resurr... I can't even say its name. That fucking cocksucker Ton... I mean Lana Skorsky destroyed a fookin legend.

https://i.imgur.com/ciMLYTv.jpeg

(I haven't watched it)


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: KTChampions on December 24, 2021, 06:43:26 PM
Hollywood died because of our sins. If we weren't torrenting the shit out of them, they would be still alive and kicking now.  :P

Because of that, the best we got is shitty netflix productions full of sjw & lbgt propaganda.
~

At some point in time, it became simply impossible to watch new films. I can understand when some values are promoted with the help of cinema (provided that these are various values and everyone can promote their own), but when there is more propaganda in "creativity" than creativity itself, it becomes unbearable. In addition, there is no question of any diversity - anyone who tries to promote some values that contradict the modern leftist agenda will be censored and canceled.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: johhnyUA on December 24, 2021, 08:46:39 PM
Should I place a bet... best movie Belfast.

You will lose your money. Best picture will be the West Side Story, remember my words.

Hollywood died because of our sins. If we weren't torrenting the shit out of them, they would be still alive and kicking now.  :P

Because of that, the best we got is shitty netflix productions full of sjw & lbgt propaganda.

Man, you should calm down. There is no any "sjw & lbgt propaganda" in this world. The only things is that we are wathing some change in culture right now. So, for some people it looks like "propaganda" or something like that.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: Slow death on December 24, 2021, 10:48:46 PM
Hollywood died because of our sins. If we weren't torrenting the shit out of them, they would be still alive and kicking now.  :P

Because of that, the best we got is shitty netflix productions full of sjw & lbgt propaganda.

We are the victims of our own greed.

Look how they massacred my boi. The Matrix Resurr... I can't even say its name. That fucking cocksucker Ton... I mean Lana Skorsky destroyed a fookin legend.

https://i.imgur.com/ciMLYTv.jpeg

(I haven't watched it)

if you watch any recent nicolas cage movie you'll probably want to destroy your tv with so many horrors you'll be watching, i think matrix although i haven't watched it yet is better than so many other movies out there, although i didn't like that they changed Morpheus to put that young man as Morpheus, that ruined the film because the old Morpheus passed the image of being a sage, now with that young man I don't know how he will pass the image of a sage

as I haven't watched it's hard to judge


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: uneng on December 24, 2021, 11:07:19 PM
It would be much more worthful and interesting if they picked movies from the 90's and 2000's which weren't awarded appropriately back then due to the large number of precious gems on those times, and remade an oscar with those titles. Those were good, legit and spontaneous times when movies could portray the real views of the directors and from the public, without any retaliation fears from the enlighted critics' elite who are also adepts of the most envious, ranging and morbid ideologies of the world. I miss the times when movies' goal was to entertain and/or enchant the audience and not brainwash or put political garbage inside their heads.

If there were a movie which inspired me I would risk a guess, but I can't do this right now since all movies look lukewarm to me.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: Oceat on December 24, 2021, 11:45:56 PM
I can't believe Ben Affleck's odd rating is too high compared to the other that I like the most while some of them aren't on the list. Well, I guess things have gotten change this time as we grow older. I found Joaquin Phoenix as an amazing actor with his very complicated role in "Joker".

I'd like to watch most of the movies of these nominated to determine why their ratings is in that level. Long story short, some of these actors/actresses doesn't deserve to be in Oscar imo. However, I can name a few if who's who but it doesn't matter anymore since the list is already written.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: Obito on December 24, 2021, 11:53:08 PM
Hollywood died because of our sins. If we weren't torrenting the shit out of them, they would be still alive and kicking now.  :P

Because of that, the best we got is shitty netflix productions full of sjw & lbgt propaganda.

We are the victims of our own greed.

Look how they massacred my boi. The Matrix Resurr... I can't even say its name. That fucking cocksucker Ton... I mean Lana Skorsky destroyed a fookin legend.

https://i.imgur.com/ciMLYTv.jpeg

(I haven't watched it)
Nope, it's not because of Netflix entirely that's causing the death of Hollywood, they killed themselves by recycling every movie that they've made over and over again and they do shitty adaptations of the famous works and novels. Not to mention that Hollywood is full of sleazebags and abusers so no wonder why they are falling apart.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: AmoreJaz on December 24, 2021, 11:57:03 PM
Best actress odds

Stewart, Kristen 1.53


Quite unexpectedly, to see Kristen as the favorite for the Oscars. I thought she could never overcome that prejudice about herself after the Twilight saga:

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It is a pity that we will know the final results as early as next year - I am not interested in betting on such a long period. A lot can change during this time, plus I am passionate and I want to know right away whether I won or lost.

lol for the image above. but she's the favourite with that odds.
just place your bets the day before, so you don't have to wait long. for sure, most top bookies here will have this line up. if this new covid strain will have bad impact in the coming months, they may delay this event again. so yeah, dont bet early.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: STT on December 25, 2021, 12:19:18 AM
Joker is the movie I've been waiting for

Last year Joker was up for the award, it was released early a while ago to qualify.

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Release date   
August 31, 2019

Dune the story might not be liked by some but any epic created world movie of that type can easily win at least one award in all the various credits possible.   So much work goes into the soundscape and landscape that actors perform on.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: bbc.reporter on December 25, 2021, 03:45:07 AM
Best actor:
Dicaprio, Leonardo

Best actress:
Kidman, Nicole

Best picture:
Dune

Best director:
Scott, Ridley

I just picked my random selection on Oscar Awards as I am not yet watching all of that movies. Maybe later I will watch one by one to see if my choice is still the same or I need to change it ;D

Good to see DiCaprio is one of the nominees of the Oscar Awards ;D

Dune is like a Star Trek with a laser beam everywhere ;D

I am not a fan of that kind of movie but I just like it ;D

Did you really watch Dune? It is not a movie with laser beams everywhere. Dune is not similar to Star Trek. I reckon many fans of Dune would be offended to that hehehe.

Dune is a high quality movie that is directed by Denis Villeneuve, also the director of Sicario and Arrival. The soundtrack is very good with music by Hans Zimmer who has won awards before. The cinematography is also very good. I reckon this is a movie made to be in the Oscar Awards.

I also forced myself to watch Power of the Dog again. This time as a critic hehehe. It reminded me of the movie No Country for Old Men but a boring version. The cinematography is very good, however. The director also appears to be the favorite.

I also watched Don’t Look Up where Leonardo Dicaprio might be nominated for best actor. I am not certain. The director of this movie is Adam Mckay, the director of the movie the Big Short.

@mindtrust. You might be joking about the Matrix Ressurection, however, it might win best sound mixing, sound editing, best special effects or best costume categories.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: BitcoinAccepted on December 25, 2021, 06:08:08 AM
lol for the image above. but she's the favourite with that odds.
just place your bets the day before, so you don't have to wait long. for sure, most top bookies here will have this line up. if this new covid strain will have bad impact in the coming months, they may delay this event again. so yeah, dont bet early.

Actually, this is what I am thinking to do this time. I honestly do not have any particular bets yet, for some reason I cannot fathom which is which among these choices. It’s as if I am not satisfied with such options. Anyway, I am planning to just wait the day before to place my bets, so I won’t have to think too much about it and be able to know the bets of the majority.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: Beparanf on December 25, 2021, 06:52:00 AM
Was there even a good movie in 2021? I don't remember I watched any quality movies lately. Oscar awards lost its meaning long time ago. Seems to me they are trying to keep this tradition alive desperately. Since there aren't any decent movies, they are throwing the awards randomly now. Which means, you can't really come up with an educated guess.

Exactly. Most the movies right now are from comics or animated films that focus on effects because this is what the viewers preferred even though the story is not that interesting compared before. Movie like Forest Gump with cool story didn't exist anymore nowadays.

But I'm a fan of Keanu so I believe Matrix is a worthy movie to watch in 2021


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: mindrust on December 25, 2021, 09:42:00 AM

Nope, it's not because of Netflix entirely that's causing the death of Hollywood, they killed themselves by recycling every movie that they've made over and over again and they do shitty adaptations of the famous works and novels. Not to mention that Hollywood is full of sleazebags and abusers so no wonder why they are falling apart.

I didn't say that at all. Netflix is the result, not the cause.

Hollywood killed itself that's true but I believe piracy also had a good part in it. There are thousands of people that download pirated stuff every day. Think about the millions of dollars those movie producers could have collected from those watchers. Some people say that those people are pirating because they can't afford to pay for it but I am not sure how true this is.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: KTChampions on December 25, 2021, 09:51:34 AM
Exactly. Most the movies right now are from comics or animated films that focus on effects because this is what the viewers preferred even though the story is not that interesting compared before. Movie like Forest Gump with cool story didn't exist anymore nowadays.

But I'm a fan of Keanu so I believe Matrix is a worthy movie to watch in 2021

In my opinion, there is nothing wrong with entertaining cinema, of course, the ideal case when it is entertaining and has a scenario like Forrest Gump.
I think that films with original scripts now need to be looked for in European cinema or some other niche, it is rather difficult because to find out if film is good you need to watch it, but sometimes you will stumble upon real gems like this:The 100 Year-Old Man Who Climbed Out the Window (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt2113681/)


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: decodx on December 25, 2021, 10:28:55 AM
But I'm a fan of Keanu so I believe Matrix is a worthy movie to watch in 2021

Matrix Resurrections is actually not that bad of a sequel to the Matrix trilogy, it's just that it came 20 years too late.  ;D

As for the Oscar Awards predictions, I think I will wait for the official nominations. Nominations for the 94th Academy Awards will be announced on February 8, 2022, for now, the only official information we have is 94TH OSCARS SHORTLISTS (https://www.oscars.org/oscars/94th-oscars-shortlists).



Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: Boristhecat on December 25, 2021, 02:00:34 PM
Quite unexpectedly, to see Kristen as the favorite for the Oscars. I thought she could never overcome that prejudice about herself after the Twilight saga:

-

It is a pity that we will know the final results as early as next year - I am not interested in betting on such a long period. A lot can change during this time, plus I am passionate and I want to know right away whether I won or lost.

lol for the image above. but she's the favourite with that odds.
just place your bets the day before, so you don't have to wait long. for sure, most top bookies here will have this line up. if this new covid strain will have bad impact in the coming months, they may delay this event again. so yeah, dont bet early.

Maybe her competitors are even worse this year? Actually I'm not an expert in acting and maybe she really became a cool actress. As for the bet, if the results were known tomorrow (or at least within a week), then I would not hesitate and did it. The odds 1.53 are too attractive, but I am sure that when there is such a short period of time before the denouement, the odds will drop to some 1.1 (after all, there are insiders everywhere) and there will be no point in betting.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: Johnyz on December 25, 2021, 02:24:20 PM
Oh my god, Di Caprio again in there. Please, tell me he is not going to win again. I am not surprised about the movies odds - for example who was the guy that woke up one morning and decided that the world needed just another version of Dune? Really? Is like waking up in New York and thinking that the world just needs another Italian restaurant. Regarding actresses, I dislike most of them and I really do not see how Lady Gaga fits at all even in a nomination.

Should I place a bet... best movie Belfast.
Leonardo Dicarpio is a great actor but as far as I know he only won once in Academy awards and that was on 2016 as a best actor for The Revenant. He has been nominated since 1994, and fortunately for him to won his first Oscar Awards. So for me there's nothing wrong to see his name again on the list.

I haven't watch much Movie in 2021 because of the pandemic that limits theaters to operate, but still good to see many good actors and actress on the list, I just can't choose yet maybe I need to watch those movies first before placing a bet.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: STT on December 25, 2021, 07:05:36 PM
Quite a few of the greatest actors never received an Oscar for a few reasons, many a brief career or just a lack of starring roles, possibly just bad luck with amazing competition each year they were nominated.   At this point I'd say Di Caprio is lucky with his one win, I dont think he has to deserve another but he does make a hell of alot of movies and with good quality so one year he might get lucky again.

Code:
Best picture odds

Belfast 3.80

West Side Story 4.40

THE Power of The Dog 6.50

Nightmare Alley 12.00

Licorice Pizza 13.00

Dune 15.00

King Richard 19.00

THE Tragedy of Macbeth 19.00

House of Gucci 21.00

Coda 23.00
I'd rather bet on one of the outliers then favorites but the academy do have their own particular reasoning.  I guessed The Father would win something though it was never a conventional blockbuster, easiest way to label that would be sentimental pictures are usually way ahead.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: decodx on December 25, 2021, 07:18:35 PM
I haven't watch much Movie in 2021 because of the pandemic that limits theaters to operate, but still good to see many good actors and actress on the list, I just can't choose yet maybe I need to watch those movies first before placing a bet.

I'm not sure how the casinos put those lists together, but I don't think they're official yet. According to the official website (https://www.oscars.org/oscars/94th-oscars-shortlists), the Academy has announced shortlists only for these ten categories for the 94th Academy Awards: Documentary Feature, Documentary Short Subject, International Feature Film, Makeup and Hairstyling, Music (Original Score), Music (Original Song), Animated Short Film, Live Action Short Film, Sound and Visual Effects.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: KTChampions on December 25, 2021, 09:52:17 PM
Quite a few of the greatest actors never received an Oscar for a few reasons, many a brief career or just a lack of starring roles, possibly just bad luck with amazing competition each year they were nominated.   At this point I'd say Di Caprio is lucky with his one win, I dont think he has to deserve another but he does make a hell of alot of movies and with good quality so one year he might get lucky again.
~

Even if DiCaprio ends his career now (and he certainly does not), he should receive at least one more Oscar in the category "For outstanding service in the cinema". If I'm not mistaken, this nomination is still relevant and is awarded to various legendary actors based on their entire career and not films in a particular year. In my opinion, DiCaprio has already deserved it.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: bbc.reporter on December 28, 2021, 05:50:24 AM
I have watched Belfast and King Richard yesterday and I can say to those who posted that there are no good movies released this year have been very mistaken. Power of the Dog, Dune, Belfast and King Richard are very high quality movies that deserve to win an Oscar in different categories.

However, someone mentioned that movies today are part of a LGBTQ propaganda and he is correct! That might be the political and social storyline for the Oscar Awards on 2022 hehehe. My favorite movie as of now to win best picture and best director is Belfast, however, according to an article in Screenrant, Power of the Dog is a movie about toxic masculinity and how this can be a person’s downfall as shown how a masculine character, who himself might be homosexual, was defeated by another homosexual character in the movie.



When it gets down to it, The Power of the Dog is a story about toxic masculinity and how it can ultimately lead to a person's downfall. Phil keeps up this tough-as-nails, relentlessly mean persona in the wake of Rose and Peter, and it leads to Peter plotting against him just as Phil is starting to warm up to him.

Source https://screenrant.com/power-dog-movie-ending-explained/

There are spoilers in the article.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: Hydrogen on December 28, 2021, 12:24:29 PM
I remember back in 2018 Spike Lee's film BlacKkKlansman had several oscar nominations.

It was beat out by marvel's Black Panther (2018) which took home 3 oscars.

After that, comic book films were blamed for many societal trends in the USA. Even though comic book films are a global market, and not limited to north american release.

I think there could be considerable jealousy and envy from hollywood towards the success of comic book to live action film adaptations, which have flourished recently.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: Silberman on December 28, 2021, 07:33:41 PM
Hollywood died because of our sins. If we weren't torrenting the shit out of them, they would be still alive and kicking now.  :P

Because of that, the best we got is shitty netflix productions full of sjw & lbgt propaganda.

We are the victims of our own greed.

Look how they massacred my boi. The Matrix Resurr... I can't even say its name. That fucking cocksucker Ton... I mean Lana Skorsky destroyed a fookin legend.


(I haven't watched it)
If you are a big fan of the original trilogy then I will recommend to you that you never watch the movie, it is that terrible, the plot is awful, the effects are terrible and if anything I think it added more plot holes to the story, so it is such a sad thing that having all the time of the world and huge resources available that is the best they could come up with, what I do not know is how they could convince Keanu Reeves to participate on that train wreck?


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: bbc.reporter on December 29, 2021, 04:56:46 AM
I remember back in 2018 Spike Lee's film BlacKkKlansman had several oscar nominations.

It was beat out by marvel's Black Panther (2018) which took home 3 oscars.

After that, comic book films were blamed for many societal trends in the USA. Even though comic book films are a global market, and not limited to north american release.

I think there could be considerable jealousy and envy from hollywood towards the success of comic book to live action film adaptations, which have flourished recently.

However, also look in what categories BlacKkKlansman was nominated and where it had won the award. It was nominated for best picture, best director and best adapted screenplay where it won. Black Panther won its awards only in minor categories where it was expected to win. In best production design and best costume design. The unexpected award for it was the best original score.

Comic book movies were blamed for stealing much of the weekend box office numbers from many studios. Those studios were very jealous hehehe. However, it did not make the comic book movies better than the movies nominated for major awards.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: dimonstration on December 29, 2021, 10:05:40 AM
If you are a big fan of the original trilog  then I will recommend to you that you never watch the movie, it is that terrible, the plot is awful, the effects are terrible and if anything I think it added more plot holes to the story, so it is such a sad thing that having all the time of the world and huge resources available that is the best they could come up with, what I do not know is how they could convince Keanu Reeves to participate on that train wreck?
Everything now can be digitally effect, Im a  fan of Keanu since Matrix and mostly in John Wick. I wasn’t aware of the new Matrix movie since it’s been long since they do a follow up movie after the trilogy. It will seems to be a John wick continuation to me even it’s not. I might watch new John Wick movie first before I watch the new Matrix movie or will need to rewatch all the trilogy of Matrix in Netflix before I watch it. Maybe next year Keanu will receive awards now that he have 2 movies in a row.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: mindrust on December 29, 2021, 01:20:49 PM
If you are a big fan of the original trilog  then I will recommend to you that you never watch the movie, it is that terrible, the plot is awful, the effects are terrible and if anything I think it added more plot holes to the story, so it is such a sad thing that having all the time of the world and huge resources available that is the best they could come up with, what I do not know is how they could convince Keanu Reeves to participate on that train wreck?

I am a fan of the trilogy indeed. I have read enough reviews and they convinced me. I am not going to see it. I won't even torrent it.

I only saw the trailer before the release and I already knew what it was going to be like.

As I said I haven't watched it but I can guess that it is a SJW fuck fest.

No thanks. Dexter New Blood is going alright luckily. I'm fine for another 2 weeks.

Keanu is in because he don't give a damn about it probably. Money is money in the end. It is not his fault the story sucked.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: madnessteat on December 29, 2021, 02:24:11 PM
^

Often the first parts are the best in the sequel and very often the filmmakers fail to meet our expectations. I'll probably watch The Matrix even if it disappoints me like I did with Dune, from which I expected so much more. But in my opinion it is definitely not worth skipping such films.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: delfastTions on December 29, 2021, 02:48:01 PM
^

Often the first parts are the best in the sequel and very often the filmmakers fail to meet our expectations. I'll probably watch The Matrix even if it disappoints me like I did with Dune, from which I expected so much more. But in my opinion it is definitely not worth skipping such films.
I watched both of these films.  And I must say I liked "Dune" more.  
I also want to note that almost 20 years have passed since the release of the previous films "The Matrix".  Keanu Reeves and Trinity (actress Carrie Ann Moos) have aged a lot.  To be honest, it's not very pleasant to look at them not so young anymore.  Compared to films from 2000-2003.  Agent Smith is also played by another actor.  Doesn't really match his usual image with black glasses.  
So I didn't really like this new "Matrix".  

If about an award, then the "Matrix" can only have an Oscar for special effects.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: acroman08 on December 29, 2021, 04:16:37 PM
I'm pretty sure that all the movies,which have a "progressive" and "liberal" message would win all the awards again. ;D
one of the reasons why I stopped watching it.

(I haven't watched it)
let's just say that as the movie progress it becomes more and more cringy. I loved the trilogy and I was extremely hoping that I would love this movie too. but after finishing it I was left with sadness and disappointment. that being said, I think the actors were fine it's just that the story itself is bad.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: KTChampions on December 29, 2021, 04:24:28 PM
Often the first parts are the best in the sequel and very often the filmmakers fail to meet our expectations. I'll probably watch The Matrix even if it disappoints me like I did with Dune, from which I expected so much more. But in my opinion it is definitely not worth skipping such films.

I was able to watch the last part of the Matrix in only two attempts - firstly, the film is too long for almost 2 and a half hours. Secondly, it is not very dynamic and we can say that you start to get bored while watching. However, I do not regret the time spent, since I really respect the trilogy and out of respect it was necessary to get acquainted with its continuation, everyone who does not like the trilogy is better off not wasting time and passing by this film.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: AicecreaME on December 30, 2021, 03:58:15 PM
Was there even a good movie in 2021? I don't remember I watched any quality movies lately. Oscar awards lost its meaning long time ago. Seems to me they are trying to keep this tradition alive desperately. Since there aren't any decent movies, they are throwing the awards randomly now. Which means, you can't really come up with an educated guess.

This made me think of a great movie that has been released this year. I can barely remember any and if there's one, probably it's from Marvel. I can hardly name a few because some movies that were released this year are not just worth it to watch. Maybe it just appeals to me that some plots just keep on being repeated on different movies. But that's just me. Also, we have different taste and likings in terms of movie genres and plots, so the greatness of a movie is still subjective I guess. What we can agree with in terms of greatness might be the cinematography, film editing, sound effects, and camera angle, and the overall narrative.

I just hope that this Oscar Awards will be done because it is worthy to celebrate the victories of the artists in the industry and not just because it is mandatory. Hopefully, they'll be able to produce more and more quality films and movies in the next years in which we could say that the whole production deserve the award. It's nice to award someone because they deserve it and not only because someone took a lucky guess or random pick.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: Silberman on January 01, 2022, 04:55:08 PM
(I haven't watched it)
let's just say that as the movie progress it becomes more and more cringy. I loved the trilogy and I was extremely hoping that I would love this movie too. but after finishing it I was left with sadness and disappointment. that being said, I think the actors were fine it's just that the story itself is bad.
This is probably one of the biggest problems of the movie, from the beginning of the movie you can see there is something wrong with it, I really think the directors tried to be too smart about it and what they thought was interesting ended up being really boring for the public, so they failed to put themselves on the shoes of the fans to produce a decent plot, also I do not like the number of times we saw images from the previous movies, after all it is obvious that if you are watching the Matrix 4 that you have watched the trilogy but once again the directors did not seem to think about something that basic.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on January 06, 2022, 12:44:45 PM
Hollywood died because of our sins. If we weren't torrenting the shit out of them, they would be still alive and kicking now.  :P

Because of that, the best we got is shitty netflix productions full of sjw & lbgt propaganda.

We are the victims of our own greed.

Look how they massacred my boi. The Matrix Resurr... I can't even say its name. That fucking cocksucker Ton... I mean Lana Skorsky destroyed a fookin legend.


(I haven't watched it)
If you are a big fan of the original trilogy then I will recommend to you that you never watch the movie, it is that terrible, the plot is awful, the effects are terrible and if anything I think it added more plot holes to the story, so it is such a sad thing that having all the time of the world and huge resources available that is the best they could come up with, what I do not know is how they could convince Keanu Reeves to participate on that train wreck?

Wow, the truth is, I plan to see the movie today and I don't want to receive any spoilers, I haven't got any here, but I've seen that some friends speak very badly of the movie, however I think that the movie that has broken all the schemes is Spiderman Marvel with the multiverses, for now I think that this film is the best so far, it remains to be seen throughout this 2022 that the best films of any genre will come, it is time to see good cinema.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: STT on January 06, 2022, 01:24:09 PM
If you are a big fan of the original trilogy

Its hard to remake an original without requiring or having further story to structure the whole movie around.    The thing I took away from the original Matrix films was despite being an action movie it was also with a quite deep core message.  Not everyone will agree with me but I believe a few have said it relates to eastern Buddhism and inner reflection to greater consciousness, not just a small theme but quite massive.  I dont know who managed to put that theme into an action movie but it was well done and to say its hard to remake would be an epic understatement.  
  Its safe to say it will not qualify for an oscar unless anyone can discern some technical expertise award especially.  

https://thetattooedbuddha.com/2019/05/09/there-is-no-spoon-zen-the-matrix/


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: xSkylarx on January 06, 2022, 01:42:37 PM
Hollywood died because of our sins. If we weren't torrenting the shit out of them, they would be still alive and kicking now.  :P

Because of that, the best we got is shitty netflix productions full of sjw & lbgt propaganda.

We are the victims of our own greed.

Look how they massacred my boi. The Matrix Resurr... I can't even say its name. That fucking cocksucker Ton... I mean Lana Skorsky destroyed a fookin legend.

https://i.imgur.com/ciMLYTv.jpeg

(I haven't watched it)


I agree with this because of the pirated version of the movie. This leads to low income for the filmakers and it's not worth it to spend more. That is the reason why the cinema is dying right now: because they couldn't get enough money as people want only to watch it on their devices from pirates. Well, people saved a ton of money since it is expensive, but the result is that only a few are making movies right now.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: delfastTions on January 07, 2022, 08:39:33 AM

Hollywood died because of our sins. If we weren't torrenting the shit out of them, they would be still alive and kicking now.  :P

Because of that, the best we got is shitty netflix productions full of sjw & lbgt propaganda.
You yourself have no idea how right you are and how close you are to the truth!!!
After reading these words of yours, I really thought - what is happening in the film industry.?  
And everything turned into a trash heap, mixed with the sins of mankind.  These aggressive women with machine guns, LGBT assholes, some kind of magicians flying on a broomstick ... Well, there is no other.  What the fuck is Oscar?  
The films themselves are such shit that it is necessary to introduce an Anti-Oscar and reward those who come up with an even greater insanity of human or monster behavior.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: bbc.reporter on January 07, 2022, 08:49:46 AM
@everyone. I found a website where movie experts share their predictions for all of the different categories in the Oscar Awards. Much of them have predicited The Power of the Dog to win with some predictions going to Belfast, West Side Story and Dune.

For best director it was almost unanimous for Jane Campion the director of Power of the Dog.

https://www.goldderby.com/awardshows/expert-predictions/oscars-nominations-2022-predictions/sort/recent/



Also, another indicator for the Oscar winners is the winner Golden Globes. Last year the Golden Globes and the Oscar Awards had the same winner for best picture and best director with Nomad Land and Chloe Zhang.

The presentation of winners of the Golden Globe will be on January 9 hehe. Odds are offered in sportsbet.io. The favorite to win for best picture for drama is Belfast, my bet.

https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/specials/entertainment/globe-awards-best-motion-picture-drama/globe-awards-best-motion-picture-drama-61b9ad37056ce7a21d446b93

Best picture for comedy and musical is clearly West Side Story.

https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/specials/entertainment/globe-awards-best-motion-picture-mus-or-com/globe-awards-best-motion-picture-mus-or-com-61b9adb241c9f9548586c8cf

For best picture, Jane Campion.

https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/specials/entertainment/globe-awards-best-director/globe-awards-best-director-61b9a90341c9f95e9b682d10


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: acroman08 on January 07, 2022, 11:25:33 AM
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Dune for best picture? although it was a good movie(and to be honest I am surprised that they didn't butcher it), was it really that good to be included as one of the top picks on that category by one of the experts? anyway, according to their prediction it looks like the power of the dog and west side story are strong contenders to win the best picture category.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: famososMuertos on January 07, 2022, 07:36:53 PM
Well with enough time of "presale" for replys this thread,  I still remember the thread that was created last year .

Although I have already seen some like The Power of the Dog, the assembly very good, scenery, but as a movie, I don't know...next, I liked Will Smith's, it may not be one of WS's best performances but it is close by as when he was nominated for movie ALi, curious another movie related to sports.

Don't Look Up is a great movie, I don't know if the release time allow nomination I think there is a limit for the films to enter for a certain year, but whatever the time, streaming dominates the trends of the favorites.

For now I would bet on Will Smith, sure he is going to be nominated.







Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: johhnyUA on January 07, 2022, 09:59:29 PM
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Dune for best picture? although it was a good movie(and to be honest I am surprised that they didn't butcher it), was it really that good to be included as one of the top picks on that category by one of the experts? anyway, according to their prediction it looks like the power of the dog and west side story are strong contenders to win the best picture category.

Dune will not be best picture on Oscar. Sorry, for Oscar movie needs to be highly social which shows to us some problems in society or human relationships. Dune is typically sience fiction, good made, but anyway it doesn't have any chances.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: bbc.reporter on January 08, 2022, 03:43:06 AM
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Dune for best picture? although it was a good movie(and to be honest I am surprised that they didn't butcher it), was it really that good to be included as one of the top picks on that category by one of the experts? anyway, according to their prediction it looks like the power of the dog and west side story are strong contenders to win the best picture category.

I reckon it was. It was one of the best motion pictures of the year for 2021 if I am being honest. The film changed some characters to be in inclusion of minorities, however, it did not have a negative impact on the story. Also, those experts have made their personal choices on what movie they liked after watching them. However, if they chose to make a pick for betting, I speculate their choice would be Belfast, West Side Story or Power of the Dog.

@johhnyUA. Agreed! But I am quite certain that Dune will be nominated for best picture and will win an award in at least 1 minor category


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: acroman08 on January 08, 2022, 03:51:09 AM
Dune will not be best picture on Oscar. Sorry, for Oscar movie needs to be highly social which shows to us some problems in society or human relationships. Dune is typically sience fiction, good made, but anyway it doesn't have any chances.
I know, and I don't expect it to win. I was just replying to what the experts chose as to what movie has the best chance to win Oscar's best picture. also, as I said before, it looks like The power of the dog, Westside story, and Belfast(I checked again and Belfast is also one of the top picks) are strong contenders to win Oscars. I haven't both of the movies though.

However, if they chose to make a pick for betting, I speculate their choice would be Belfast, West Side Story or Power of the Dog.
yeah, I was checking further into their predictions, according to them The power of the dog, West side story and, Belfast have the best chance of winning.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: worle1bm on January 08, 2022, 06:37:21 AM
I agree with this because of the pirated version of the movie. This leads to low income for the filmakers and it's not worth it to spend more. That is the reason why the cinema is dying right now: because they couldn't get enough money as people want only to watch it on their devices from pirates. Well, people saved a ton of money since it is expensive, but the result is that only a few are making movies right now.
Have to agree on this that there are so many pirated copies of movies from all versions of film industry and the rush in theatres for such movies is very low compared to real audience watching that movie.There are also torrent websites that upload them as early they are released for most of them and few days later we all have them all and people watch these pirated versions only.This has definitely cost the film industry a lot in terms of revenue loss but for people they just saved so much but strict actions have been taken against them and some sites have been blocked.But still they will be on web for users.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: RealMalatesta on January 08, 2022, 05:52:08 PM
I agree with this because of the pirated version of the movie. This leads to low income for the filmakers and it's not worth it to spend more. That is the reason why the cinema is dying right now: because they couldn't get enough money as people want only to watch it on their devices from pirates. Well, people saved a ton of money since it is expensive, but the result is that only a few are making movies right now.
Have to agree on this that there are so many pirated copies of movies from all versions of film industry and the rush in theatres for such movies is very low compared to real audience watching that movie.There are also torrent websites that upload them as early they are released for most of them and few days later we all have them all and people watch these pirated versions only.This has definitely cost the film industry a lot in terms of revenue loss but for people they just saved so much but strict actions have been taken against them and some sites have been blocked.But still they will be on web for users.
If you ask me streaming services dropped the amount of torrents a lot. Not that it is zero right now, it is still not zero but I believe it is not as bad as it used to be neither. You pay like 50 bucks on few streaming services and you would get more than what you need to watch ready for you whenever you want to watch something.

It is looking a lot brighter these days and I am feeling no need to torrent anything aside from maybe a few movies a year or sports matches that I have missed. Oscars especially should not be based on torrent or streaming, as long as the movie is good enough and academy decides that it is good enough then I would say every single movie has a chance to win. I have seen King Richard on torrent for example, but then the power of the dog is on netflix so why use a torrent? It is all about the chances that we have these days.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: bbc.reporter on January 12, 2022, 04:57:57 AM
The Golden Globe awards have presented their winners and it appears that those winners have changed the odds for the Oscar awards hehe. The favorite for best motion picture for the Oscar awards is now presently Power of the Dog from odds of 6.50 to 2.80 and for best director the odds for Jane Campion is presently from 2.23 to 1.25.

https://sportsbet.io/sports/specials/outrights

I am not certain if the winners in best actor and best actress in the Golden Globe will be similar to the Oscar awards, however, there are articles that say that if an actor or actress wins a Golden Globe, his or her chances to win an Oscar might be 50-50. Also, there are 2 winners each for best actor and best actress. 1 each for a performance in drama and comedy.



Best Motion Picture – Drama
Belfast, Focus Features
Coda, Apple TV+
Dune, Warner Bros.
King Richard, Warner Bros.
The Power of the Dog, Netflix – WINNER

Best Director – Motion Picture
Kenneth Branagh, Belfast
Jane Campion, The Power Of The Dog – WINNER
Maggie Gyllenhaal, The Lost Daughter
Steven Spielberg, West Side Story
Denis Villeneuve, Dune


Source https://editorial.rottentomatoes.com/article/79th-golden-globes-winners/


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: Kakmakr on January 12, 2022, 11:39:14 AM
I have to say, I was a bit disappointed in the movie, "Dune" ...... I am one of those people who played "Dune" as a PC Game and I waited in big anticipation to see if the new movie is going to blow off my socks... but sadly it did not.  :(

We should accept that Best Actor will most probably go to actors like Will Smith “King Richard” or Denzel Washington “The Tragedy of Macbeth” ...because that is the kind of movies these old farts like.  ;D


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: Distinctin on January 12, 2022, 06:25:55 PM
Was there even a good movie in 2021? I don't remember I watched any quality movies lately. Oscar awards lost its meaning long time ago. Seems to me they are trying to keep this tradition alive desperately. Since there aren't any decent movies, they are throwing the awards randomly now. Which means, you can't really come up with an educated guess.

Definitely, I can't think of any good movie though that was very worth it to be included in the Oscar's Awards. I was even puzzled to see those names who are favorites and nominated to be the best actor/actress award. But yeah, the show must go on and there should be an announcement of who will have the award.
As @mindrust said, you can't really have the right judgement/guess on whom really deserved it. But my best guess for the best actor would be Denzel Washington.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: AmoreJaz on January 12, 2022, 11:01:29 PM
The Golden Globe awards have presented their winners and it appears that those winners have changed the odds for the Oscar awards hehe. The favorite for best motion picture for the Oscar awards is now presently Power of the Dog from odds of 6.50 to 2.80 and for best director the odds for Jane Campion is presently from 2.23 to 1.25.

https://sportsbet.io/sports/specials/outrights

I am not certain if the winners in best actor and best actress in the Golden Globe will be similar to the Oscar awards, however, there are articles that say that if an actor or actress wins a Golden Globe, his or her chances to win an Oscar might be 50-50. Also, there are 2 winners each for best actor and best actress. 1 each for a performance in drama and comedy.
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or sometimes it is politically motivated. even in the film industry, politics is also rampant. so you can never be sure of the judges' choices here. better relax, and watch. just bet what you can afford or better yet, not bet at all. most of the time, they will choose unexpected candidates.
but if you want a lil bit of excitement while watching, you can select one or two betting lines. as i said, don't get too serious here.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: delfastTions on January 13, 2022, 09:45:44 AM
I think that the Oscar jury will also focus on Jane Campion's film, "The Power Of The Dog", because this is perhaps the most interesting film of those contenders who appear on the list for the nomination. 
The plot of the film is quite interesting and how to put it more accurately - not banal, not too standard.  I think it will be the right choice if the jury decides so. 
In any case, I'll be a little better about the Oscars itself, if that's the case. :)


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: michellee on January 13, 2022, 02:12:39 PM
The Golden Globe awards have presented their winners and it appears that those winners have changed the odds for the Oscar awards hehe. The favorite for best motion picture for the Oscar awards is now presently Power of the Dog from odds of 6.50 to 2.80 and for best director the odds for Jane Campion is presently from 2.23 to 1.25.

https://sportsbet.io/sports/specials/outrights

I am not certain if the winners in best actor and best actress in the Golden Globe will be similar to the Oscar awards, however, there are articles that say that if an actor or actress wins a Golden Globe, his or her chances to win an Oscar might be 50-50. Also, there are 2 winners each for best actor and best actress. 1 each for a performance in drama and comedy.
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or sometimes it is politically motivated. even in the film industry, politics is also rampant. so you can never be sure of the judges' choices here. better relax, and watch. just bet what you can afford or better yet, not bet at all. most of the time, they will choose unexpected candidates.
but if you want a lil bit of excitement while watching, you can select one or two betting lines. as i said, don't get too serious here.
It is not a surprise if the Golden Globe or Oscar awards will have political motivation as many people behind on that awards will have different purposes. Yes, I agree that we should bet what we can afford or not bet at all so we do not get any impact losing the money. But if you place your bet, you may not have a high expectation to win and if you win, you should consider that you are lucky enough to win that award. The important thing is that we can enjoy watching the movie and place the bet, if we want, and watch who will win on that award.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: STT on January 13, 2022, 07:52:55 PM
Politically correct would be closer to the mark rather then straight politics, there's actors and both parties represented within the academy I think.  It'd be a failure to allow politics as the deciding factor especially, I think they,   Clint Eastwood for example is definitely right wing but has won without too much resistance I think etc.
   I guessed last year that Hopkins film where he portrays someone in advanced age losing track of things, that would qualify ahead of most other films in contentation because its such a relevant modern topic with USA generally getting older its a challenging topic.   They tend to favor the film subjects of that nature imo   odds will have their own bias but the academy is distinct from just purely being the votes of an audience who are not themselves professionally trained.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: Boristhecat on January 13, 2022, 09:05:57 PM
I have to say, I was a bit disappointed in the movie, "Dune" ...... I am one of those people who played "Dune" as a PC Game and I waited in big anticipation to see if the new movie is going to blow off my socks... but sadly it did not.  :(

Do you remember at least one film based on the game that was not disgusting? For example, the World of Warcraft is so bad that Dune looks against its background just like a creation of Shakespeare. And if we assume that Dune would have been filmed purely based on the book, then I do not think that the film would be much better. I don't want to offend the fans, but this is a very boring book and it is unlikely that a good modern film could be made of it.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: bbc.reporter on January 14, 2022, 03:55:42 AM
The Golden Globe awards have presented their winners and it appears that those winners have changed the odds for the Oscar awards hehe. The favorite for best motion picture for the Oscar awards is now presently Power of the Dog from odds of 6.50 to 2.80 and for best director the odds for Jane Campion is presently from 2.23 to 1.25.

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I am not certain if the winners in best actor and best actress in the Golden Globe will be similar to the Oscar awards, however, there are articles that say that if an actor or actress wins a Golden Globe, his or her chances to win an Oscar might be 50-50. Also, there are 2 winners each for best actor and best actress. 1 each for a performance in drama and comedy.
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or sometimes it is politically motivated. even in the film industry, politics is also rampant. so you can never be sure of the judges' choices here. better relax, and watch. just bet what you can afford or better yet, not bet at all. most of the time, they will choose unexpected candidates.
but if you want a lil bit of excitement while watching, you can select one or two betting lines. as i said, don't get too serious here.

It can be political, historical or socially motivated. Similar to what someone has said, that he noticed that much of the movies he was watching has a LGBTQ motivated message in them. It appears that the message is a socially motivated one created by the people behind the movie makers. A storyline to manipulate everyone.

During black lives matter was exploding in mainstream news media, many people expected that the Oscar awards would be won by movies with stories of black history or with an agenda against Trump. However, the winners were not of that manipulated storyline. The voters in the academy awards wanted that year’s presentation to be not influenced of social and political agendas and to forget the hardship the pandemic caused. I reckon China won the agenda war that year hehehe.

This is what this thread was created for. We should talk about what is happening around the world and look for social and political agendas and see if they reflect or deflect in the movies. Also, find out what the mood is for these type of movies, if they are positive or negative and if the academy awards members would be manipulated by these political agendas or use the agenda to manipulate who wins an award.

In any case, I shake my head when someone said there were no good movies created on 2021 because this is not true.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on January 20, 2022, 08:08:14 PM
I have to say, I was a bit disappointed in the movie, "Dune" ...... I am one of those people who played "Dune" as a PC Game and I waited in big anticipation to see if the new movie is going to blow off my socks... but sadly it did not.  :(

Do you remember at least one film based on the game that was not disgusting? For example, the World of Warcraft is so bad that Dune looks against its background just like a creation of Shakespeare. And if we assume that Dune would have been filmed purely based on the book, then I do not think that the film would be much better. I don't want to offend the fans, but this is a very boring book and it is unlikely that a good modern film could be made of it.
I really think the same, Dune was something that completely disappointed me, but seeing it from another point of view is not as bad as the Warcraft movie was, I honestly don't know how the writers can kill so much an incredible vision that is brought of the game to make it a movie, I think that for things to go well, the movies must be directed and created by the same devs of the games, otherwise I think that any filmmaker will never be successful with only their little ideas that do not have much to do with the game.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: Boristhecat on January 20, 2022, 09:22:14 PM
Do you remember at least one film based on the game that was not disgusting? For example, the World of Warcraft is so bad that Dune looks against its background just like a creation of Shakespeare. And if we assume that Dune would have been filmed purely based on the book, then I do not think that the film would be much better. I don't want to offend the fans, but this is a very boring book and it is unlikely that a good modern film could be made of it.
I really think the same, Dune was something that completely disappointed me, but seeing it from another point of view is not as bad as the Warcraft movie was, I honestly don't know how the writers can kill so much an incredible vision that is brought of the game to make it a movie, I think that for things to go well, the movies must be directed and created by the same devs of the games, otherwise I think that any filmmaker will never be successful with only their little ideas that do not have much to do with the game.

If we believe that Dune is much better than World of Warcraft and the next movie will be better than Dune is a trend, then we have a chance to see a good movie based on the game ) Although my list of requirements for a film does not include such a requirement that it clearly matches the book or game - the film is a standalone work and if it is good in itself, then that will suit me. I guess the creators of (bad) games-based movies fall into this trap - they try to keep the game at the core and at the same time create a separate good creation, but in the end it turns out to be something in between (nonsense).


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: STT on January 21, 2022, 10:20:14 AM
I saw Matrix and its not half as bad as some are describing it, its not near to as good as the original but its not a bad stand alone movie by  itself.   I was especially impressed by the special effects and the general pace of action in the movie, Im glad they made the movie as its watchable for sure.   Its not likely an Oscar contender imo unless I missed a technical award it might receive but I'd expect other movies to qualify better overall.
  I dont think they advanced the story enough, its more of a revisit to the universe.   Anyone new to Matrix should make certain they watch them all in order dont begin with this and work backwards.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on January 25, 2022, 08:46:21 PM
I saw Matrix and its not half as bad as some are describing it, its not near to as good as the original but its not a bad stand alone movie by  itself.   I was especially impressed by the special effects and the general pace of action in the movie, Im glad they made the movie as its watchable for sure.   Its not likely an Oscar contender imo unless I missed a technical award it might receive but I'd expect other movies to qualify better overall.
  I dont think they advanced the story enough, its more of a revisit to the universe.   Anyone new to Matrix should make certain they watch them all in order dont begin with this and work backwards.
I saw it and I didn't think it was bad either, the truth is that they relied a lot on quantum physics to make everything possible, I don't see this movie as bad, they are not the same special effects that we are used to seeing in previous movies, but I think they love him and they can give continuity to a saga that for me is not dead, the truth was resurrection and before that I think they chose the best plot and the most credible, in addition the participation of many characters reminded us of the first film.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: STT on February 08, 2022, 07:55:23 PM
Maybe a side bet on who will host might be the most immediate gain, Billy Crystal coming back easy :D   surprised nobody posted this yet :

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A host has not yet been named for the Academy Awards ceremony, which will take place on Sunday, March 27. The broadcast will air live at 8 p.m. ET/5 p.m. PT on ABC.

A full list of nominees follows.

BEST PICTURE
Belfast (Laura Berwick, Kenneth Branagh, Becca Kovacik and Tamar Thomas, Producers)
CODA (Philippe Rousselet, Fabrice Gianfermi and Patrick Wachsberger, Producers)
Don’t Look Up (Adam McKay and Kevin Messick, Producers)
Drive My Car (Teruhisa Yamamoto, Producer)
Dune (Mary Parent, Denis Villeneuve and Cale Boyter, Producers)
King Richard (Tim White, Trevor White and Will Smith, Producers)
Licorice Pizza (Sara Murphy, Adam Somner and Paul Thomas Anderson, Producers)
Nightmare Alley (Guillermo del Toro, J. Miles Dale and Bradley Cooper, Producers)
The Power of the Dog (Jane Campion, Tanya Seghatchian, Emile
Sherman, Iain Canning and Roger Frappier, Producers)
West Side Story (Steven Spielberg and Kristie Macosko Krieger, Producers)

BEST DIRECTOR
Paul Thomas Anderson (Licorice Pizza)
Kenneth Branagh (Belfast)
Jane Campion (The Power of the Dog)
Ryûsuke Hamaguchi (Drive My Car)
Steven Spielberg (West Side Story)

BEST ACTRESS
Jessica Chastain (The Eyes of Tammy Faye)
Olivia Colman (The Lost Daughter)
Penélope Cruz (Parallel Mothers)
Nicole Kidman (Being the Ricardos)
Kristen Stewart (Spencer)

BEST ACTOR
Javier Bardem (Being the Ricardos)
Benedict Cumberbatch (The Power of the Dog)
Andrew Garfield (Tick, Tick … Boom!)
Will Smith (King Richard)
Denzel Washington (The Tragedy of Macbeth)

BEST SUPPORTING ACTRESS
Jessie Buckley (The Lost Daughter)
Ariana DeBose (West Side Story)
Judi Dench (Belfast)
Kirsten Dunst (The Power of the Dog)
Aunjanue Ellis (King Richard)

BEST SUPPORTING ACTOR
Ciarán Hinds (Belfast)
Troy Kotsur (CODA)
Jesse Plemons (The Power of the Dog)
J.K. Simmons (Being the Ricardos)
Kodi Smit-McPhee (The Power of the Dog)

BEST COSTUME DESIGN
Cruella (Jenny Beavan)
Cyrano (Massimo Cantini Parrini and Jacqueline Durran)
Dune (Jacqueline West and Robert Morgan)
Nightmare Alley (Luis Sequeira)
West Side Story (Paul Tazewell)

BEST SOUND
Belfast (Denise Yarde, Simon Chase, James Mather and Niv Adiri)
Dune (Mac Ruth, Mark Mangini, Theo Green, Doug Hemphill and Ron Bartlett)
No Time to Die (Simon Hayes, Oliver Tarney, James Harrison, Paul Massey and Mark Taylor)
The Power of the Dog (Richard Flynn, Robert Mackenzie and Tara Webb)
West Side Story (Tod A. Maitland, Gary Rydstrom, Brian Chumney, Andy Nelson and Shawn Murphy)

BEST ORIGINAL SCORE
Don’t Look Up (Nicholas Britell)
Dune (Hans Zimmer)
Encanto (Germaine Franco)
Parallel Mothers (Alberto Iglesias)
The Power of the Dog (Jonny Greenwood)

BEST ADAPTED SCREENPLAY
CODA (Screenplay by Siân Heder)
Drive My Car (Screenplay by Ryusuke Hamaguchi, Takamasa
Oe)
Dune (Screenplay by Jon Spaihts and Denis Villeneuve
and Eric Roth)
The Lost Daughter (Written by Maggie Gyllenhaal)
The Power of the Dog (Written by Jane Campion)

BEST ORIGINAL SCREENPLAY
Belfast (Written by Kenneth Branagh)
Don’t Look Up (Screenplay by Adam McKay; Story by Adam McKay & David Sirota)
King Richard (Written by Zach Baylin)
Licorice Pizza (Written by Paul Thomas Anderson)
The Worst Person in the World (Written by Eskil Vogt, Joachim Trier)

BEST ANIMATED SHORT
Affairs of the Art (Joanna Quinn and Les Mills)
Bestia (Hugo Covarrubias and Tevo Díaz)
Boxballet (Anton Dyakov)
Robin Robin (Dan Ojari and Mikey Please)
The Windshield Wiper (Alberto Mielgo and Leo Sanchez)

BEST LIVE ACTION SHORT
Ala Kachuu — Take and Run (Maria Brendle and Nadine Lüchinger)
The Dress (Tadeusz Łysiak and Maciej Ślesicki)
The Long Goodbye (Aneil Karia and Riz Ahmed)
On My Mind (Martin Strange-Hansen and Kim Magnusson)
Please Hold (K.D. Dávila and Levin Menekse)

BEST FILM EDITING
Don’t Look Up (Hank Corwin)
Dune (Joe Walker)
King Richard (Pamela Martin)
The Power of the Dog (Peter Sciberras)
Tick, Tick… Boom! (Myron Kerstein and Andrew Weisblum)

BEST MAKEUP AND HAIRSTYLING
Coming 2 America (Mike Marino, Stacey Morris and Carla Farmer)
Cruella (Nadia Stacey, Naomi Donne and Julia Vernon)
Dune (Donald Mowat, Love Larson and Eva von Bahr)
The Eyes of Tammy Faye (Linda Dowds, Stephanie Ingram and Justin Raleigh)
House of Gucci (Göran Lundström, Anna Carin Lock and Frederic Aspiras)

BEST ANIMATED FEATURE
Encanto (Jared Bush, Byron Howard, Yvett Merino and Clark Spencer)
Flee (Jonas Poher Rasmussen, Monica Hellström, Signe Byrge Sørensen and Charlotte De La Gournerie)
Luca (Enrico Casarosa and Andrea Warren)
The Mitchells vs. The Machines (Mike Rianda, Phil Lord, Christopher Miller and Kurt Albrecht)
Raya and the Last Dragon (Don Hall, Carlos López Estrada, Osnat Shurer
and Peter Del Vecho)

BEST DOCUMENTARY FEATURE
Ascension (Jessica Kingdon, Kira Simon-Kennedy and Nathan Truesdell)
Attica (Stanley Nelson and Traci A. Curry)
Flee (Jonas Poher Rasmussen, Monica Hellström, Signe Byrge Sørensen and Charlotte De La Gournerie)
Summer of Soul (Ahmir “Questlove” Thompson, Joseph Patel, Robert Fyvolent and David Dinerstein)
Writing With Fire (Rintu Thomas and Sushmit Ghosh)

BEST DOCUMENTARY SHORT
Audible (Matt Ogens and Geoff McLean)
Lead Me Home (Pedro Kos and Jon Shenk)
The Queen of Basketball (Ben Proudfoot)
Three Songs for Benazir (Elizabeth Mirzaei and Gulistan Mirzaei)
When We Were Bullies (Jay Rosenblatt)

BEST ORIGINAL SONG
“Be Alive” — Music and Lyric by DIXSON and Beyoncé Knowles-Carter (King Richard)
“Dos Oruguitas” — Music and Lyric by Lin-Manuel Miranda (Encanto)
“Down to Joy” — Music and Lyric by Van Morrison (Belfast)
“No Time to Die” — Music and Lyric by Billie Eilish and Finneas
O’Connell (No Time to Die)
“Somehow You Do” — Music and Lyric by Diane Warren (Four Good Days)

BEST CINEMATOGRAPHY
Dune (Greig Fraser)
Nightmare Alley (Dan Laustsen)
The Power of the Dog (Ari Wegner)
The Tragedy of Macbeth (Bruno Delbonnel)
West Side Story (Janusz Kaminski)

BEST INTERNATIONAL FEATURE
Drive My Car (Japan)
Flee (Denmark)
The Hand of God (Italy)
Lunana: A Yak in the Classroom (Bhutan)
The Worst Person in the World (Norway)

BEST PRODUCTION DESIGN
Dune (Production Design: Patrice Vermette; Set Decoration: Zsuzsanna Sipos)
Nightmare Alley (Production Design: Tamara Deverell; Set Decoration: Shane Vieau)
The Power of the Dog (Production Design: Grant Major; Set Decoration: Amber Richards)
The Tragedy of Macbeth (Production Design: Stefan Dechant; Set Decoration: Nancy Haigh)
West Side Story (Production Design: Adam Stockhausen; Set Decoration: Rena DeAngelo)

BEST VISUAL EFFECTS
Dune (Paul Lambert, Tristan Myles, Brian Connor and
Gerd Nefzer)
Free Guy (Swen Gillberg, Bryan Grill, Nikos Kalaitzidis and
Dan Sudick)
No Time to Die (Charlie Noble, Joel Green, Jonathan Fawkner and Chris Corbould)
Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings (Christopher Townsend, Joe Farrell, Sean Noel Walker and Dan Oliver)
Spider-Man: No Way Home (Kelly Port, Chris Waegner, Scott Edelstein and Dan Sudick
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/oscar-nominations-2022-nominees-list-1235088770/


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: bbc.reporter on February 09, 2022, 05:08:33 AM
@STT. The hosts for the presentation will be Tracee Ellis Ross and Leslie Jordan. The jokes of Billy Crystal might not be funny and entertaining for the audiences of today. My father is a movie lover and he loves Billy Crystal hehehe. He has a collection of old comedy movies that starred Billy Murphy, Arsenio Hall, Steve Martin and other great comedians before 2000.



“black-ish” star Tracee Ellis Ross and actor-comedian Leslie Jordan will co-host the presentation, which can be viewed on Oscar.com, Oscars.org and on the film academy’s digital platforms (Twitter, YouTube and Facebook).

Source https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/movies/story/2022-02-07/how-to-watch-the-2022-oscar-nominations-info



In any case, the odds have changed. The Power of the Dog movie and director is the sure favorite to win best picture and director, however, the leading actor of the movie Benedict Cumberbatch is 4.80 for best actor. Also, Belfast was the favorite before the announcment of the nominees. It is presently 3.60. I speculate both of them might have a winning chance.

https://sportsbet.io/sports/specials/outrights


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: FatFork on February 09, 2022, 11:56:51 AM
Perhaps the only surprise in the nominees for best picture is the absence of House Of Gucci, but all other nominees on the list are well-deserved (except, maybe, Don't Look Up). Power Of The Dog by Jane Campion is a strong favorite, with Spielberg's West Side Story as a strong secondary contender.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: delfastTions on February 10, 2022, 10:06:46 AM
Perhaps the only surprise in the nominees for best picture is the absence of House Of Gucci, but all other nominees on the list are well-deserved (except, maybe, Don't Look Up). Power Of The Dog by Jane Campion is a strong favorite, with Spielberg's West Side Story as a strong secondary contender.

In general, in general, cinema academics have chosen, of course, the best films from all Hollywood productions that were created in 2021.  My favorite is of course "Power Of The Dog" by Jane Campion. 
But Dune should also be noted for the brilliant performance of the protagonist, in my opinion, by Timothée Shalome.  I really liked his game.  This is a young 26-year-old and a very talented actor.  Even before Dune, he played a great young king in a historical drama. 
But still I put more on Power Of the dog. :)


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: FatFork on February 10, 2022, 10:08:05 PM
Perhaps the only surprise in the nominees for best picture is the absence of House Of Gucci, but all other nominees on the list are well-deserved (except, maybe, Don't Look Up). Power Of The Dog by Jane Campion is a strong favorite, with Spielberg's West Side Story as a strong secondary contender.

In general, in general, cinema academics have chosen, of course, the best films from all Hollywood productions that were created in 2021.  My favorite is of course "Power Of The Dog" by Jane Campion. 
But Dune should also be noted for the brilliant performance of the protagonist, in my opinion, by Timothée Shalome.  I really liked his game.  This is a young 26-year-old and a very talented actor.  Even before Dune, he played a great young king in a historical drama. 
But still I put more on Power Of the dog. :)

Yeah, I agree. Dune is the world's best-selling science fiction novel, and I'm a big fan of the entire series. I'm glad it finally got an adaptation that was worthy of the big screen. Considering there are ten Oscar nominations for Dune, it is likely to get at least a few of them, but unfortunately not for best picture.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: bbc.reporter on February 11, 2022, 02:16:14 AM
Perhaps the only surprise in the nominees for best picture is the absence of House Of Gucci, but all other nominees on the list are well-deserved (except, maybe, Don't Look Up). Power Of The Dog by Jane Campion is a strong favorite, with Spielberg's West Side Story as a strong secondary contender.

I agree on Don’t Look Up. It was an entertaining comedy but not a movie for the Oscar awards. However, always there is politics in this. Leonardo di Caprio has the Hollywood connections to make his contemporaries vote for his projects in exchange for a chance to get favors hehehe.

My strong secondary is Belfast and my third is Coda. They are very good movies that everyone should watch. I shake my head when someone said there were no good movies created on 2021.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: fzkto on February 12, 2022, 10:32:54 AM
I saw Matrix and its not half as bad as some are describing it, its not near to as good as the original but its not a bad stand alone movie by  itself.   I was especially impressed by the special effects and the general pace of action in the movie, Im glad they made the movie as its watchable for sure.   Its not likely an Oscar contender imo unless I missed a technical award it might receive but I'd expect other movies to qualify better overall.
  I dont think they advanced the story enough, its more of a revisit to the universe.   Anyone new to Matrix should make certain they watch them all in order dont begin with this and work backwards.

I thought the last part of the matrix was terrible, Keanu Reeves may have played his part well but the film was no different from regular action movies. I didn't like this film and I don't think it's worthy of an Oscar nomination in any way.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: RealMalatesta on February 12, 2022, 05:58:32 PM
Perhaps the only surprise in the nominees for best picture is the absence of House Of Gucci, but all other nominees on the list are well-deserved (except, maybe, Don't Look Up). Power Of The Dog by Jane Campion is a strong favorite, with Spielberg's West Side Story as a strong secondary contender.
I agree on Don’t Look Up. It was an entertaining comedy but not a movie for the Oscar awards. However, always there is politics in this. Leonardo di Caprio has the Hollywood connections to make his contemporaries vote for his projects in exchange for a chance to get favors hehehe.

My strong secondary is Belfast and my third is Coda. They are very good movies that everyone should watch. I shake my head when someone said there were no good movies created on 2021.
Have you seen Belfast? It wasn't a comedy, it wasn't a historical mastermind like Schindler's list, it wasn't proper drama that made you cry, it was absolutely nothing. What was it that made it so "sure to win Oscars" movie? The great communication of the troubles some people had back in the day. That is literally it, nothing more. Political is the way to go now, and if you do historical "minority" then you would be sure to be somewhere.

King Richard was literally just a historical thing talking about father of Williams sisters father and even that got something, why? Because, it was political while talking about the life of them which is understandable because as black kids playing a majority white kid sport, it was a bit political. So Don't Look Up had all the potential to be nominated as any other, but will not get it just because it is not what was but what will be.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: PX-Z on February 12, 2022, 11:43:53 PM
I just see this thread and it make me laugh and awe. That even an event like this can be put in for betting on sportsbooks.
Betting on this should have seen those movies to have better knowledge and analysis who can get the award and I guess this is harder to win than a common sports betting.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: KTChampions on February 13, 2022, 12:59:38 PM
I just see this thread and it make me laugh and awe. That even an event like this can be put in for betting on sportsbooks.
Betting on this should have seen those movies to have better knowledge and analysis who can get the award and I guess this is harder to win than a common sports betting.

Betting on this event, it seems to me, is already quite an old game and we can say that it is quite widespread. At least every year before the ceremony in many media, news about these events are presented as "according to bookmakers, the favorite for the award is ...". When it comes to winning, it's like in sports, the bookies are pretty accurate in their predictions, so it's pretty hard to beat them.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: CaVO32 on February 13, 2022, 04:05:17 PM
I just see this thread and it make me laugh and awe. That even an event like this can be put in for betting on sportsbooks.
Betting on this should have seen those movies to have better knowledge and analysis who can get the award and I guess this is harder to win than a common sports betting.

Betting on this event, it seems to me, is already quite an old game and we can say that it is quite widespread. At least every year before the ceremony in many media, news about these events are presented as "according to bookmakers, the favorite for the award is ...". When it comes to winning, it's like in sports, the bookies are pretty accurate in their predictions, so it's pretty hard to beat them.

Are you sure with that? This is Oscar Awards, so for me, this is quite hard to predict as it depends on the judges of this event. Bookies may have their pulse but I don't believe that it will be pretty accurate. But anyway, let's see if they can get most of the categories. Bookies are getting money also from this event as some people are really betting because they have their own favorites when it comes to film industry. But if you are not very familiar with their ways of selecting a winner, would be a challenge to bet for the winners.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: STT on February 13, 2022, 09:04:41 PM
Last year I predicted The Father (2020) as an oscar winner just purely because its a difficult subject that would appeal in a lasting way to the oscar committee who are naturally older then average.   Obviously Hopkins does a great job, it did win but I didnt have enough faith that the simple theme that appeals in some community way would get the win.  I just want to spot a similar idea this time too, well acted produced and with that wider message that gets the oscar win quite often.
  It got actor + Best Writing Adapted Screenplay Oscar wins.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: KTChampions on February 13, 2022, 09:06:03 PM
Betting on this event, it seems to me, is already quite an old game and we can say that it is quite widespread. At least every year before the ceremony in many media, news about these events are presented as "according to bookmakers, the favorite for the award is ...". When it comes to winning, it's like in sports, the bookies are pretty accurate in their predictions, so it's pretty hard to beat them.

Are you sure with that? This is Oscar Awards, so for me, this is quite hard to predict as it depends on the judges of this event. Bookies may have their pulse but I don't believe that it will be pretty accurate. But anyway, let's see if they can get most of the categories. Bookies are getting money also from this event as some people are really betting because they have their own favorites when it comes to film industry. But if you are not very familiar with their ways of selecting a winner, would be a challenge to bet for the winners.

Yes, you can easily check it through search. For example, here is an article discussing the chances of actors to win an Oscar and the odds given by bookmakers: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-1251424/Oscar-2010-nominees--Imax-view-Jeff-Bridges-Sandra-Bullock-odds-favourites-win-line-nominees-attend-pre-event-luncheon.html This article is from 2010. I think for every year you can find a lot of these "footprints". I don’t bet with fiat bookmakers, so I can’t say who specializes in this, but I think that the largest bookmakers have been providing the opportunity to bet on such events for a long time.
As for the strength of forecasts, the strongest analysts work for them, plus they have more insider opportunities, so they are difficult to beat.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: bbc.reporter on February 16, 2022, 04:38:26 AM
Perhaps the only surprise in the nominees for best picture is the absence of House Of Gucci, but all other nominees on the list are well-deserved (except, maybe, Don't Look Up). Power Of The Dog by Jane Campion is a strong favorite, with Spielberg's West Side Story as a strong secondary contender.
I agree on Don’t Look Up. It was an entertaining comedy but not a movie for the Oscar awards. However, always there is politics in this. Leonardo di Caprio has the Hollywood connections to make his contemporaries vote for his projects in exchange for a chance to get favors hehehe.

My strong secondary is Belfast and my third is Coda. They are very good movies that everyone should watch. I shake my head when someone said there were no good movies created on 2021.
Have you seen Belfast? It wasn't a comedy, it wasn't a historical mastermind like Schindler's list, it wasn't proper drama that made you cry, it was absolutely nothing. What was it that made it so "sure to win Oscars" movie? The great communication of the troubles some people had back in the day. That is literally it, nothing more. Political is the way to go now, and if you do historical "minority" then you would be sure to be somewhere.

It was a story about childhood and living under a type of environment where violence might erupt anytime because of different religious beliefs. It was also a movie showing that despite the violence and the useless conflict, there was beauty and happiness in the innocence of childhood. I very much liked the movie and it might win best original screenplay. The production design was also good, the cinematography good and the music used in the movie was very good.  It was also based on the director’s childhood.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: FatFork on February 16, 2022, 04:13:58 PM
The 2022 Oscars nominees are official and were announced a little while ago, so now it's time to start thinking about who's going to win and who you're going to bet on. It’s about a month until the awards, so there's still time to make a good pick.  ;)

To help you with that, I have put together a list of nominees with their odds for each of my favorite award categories for the upcoming Academy Awards.

Best Picture
The Power of the Dog[imdb (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt10293406/)]
1.55
Belfast[imdb (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt12789558/)]
3.90
West Side Story[imdb (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3581652/)]
7.50
CODA[imdb (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt10366460/)]23.00
Licorice Pizza[imdb (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11271038/)]17.00
King Richard[imdb (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt9620288/)]26.00
Dune[imdb (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1160419/)]21.00
Drive My Car[imdb (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt14039582/)]39.00
Don’t Look Up[imdb (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt11286314/)]41.00
Nightmare Alley[imdb (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7740496/)]61.00
Best Actor
Will Smith
1.33
Benedict Cumberbatch
4.00
Andrew Garfield
7.00
Denzel Washington27.00
Javier Bardem34.00
Best Actress
Nicole Kidman
2.05
Kristen Stewart
3.15
Olivia Colman
5.00
Jessica Chastain
6.00
Penelope Cruz20.00
Best Supporting Actor
Kodi Smit McPhee
1.30
Troy Kotsur
4.40
Ciaran Hinds
6.00
Jesse Plemons23.00
Jonathan Kimble Simmons27.00
Best Supporting Actress
Ariana DeBose
1.30
Kirsten Dunst
3.50
Aunjanue Ellis11.00
Judi Dench21.00
Jessie Buckley21.00
Best Director
Jane Campion[imdb (https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0001005/)]
1.15
Steven Spielberg[imdb (https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000229/)] 12.00
Kenneth Branagh[imdb (https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000110/)] 12.00
Ryûsuke Hamaguchi [imdb (https://www.imdb.com/name/nm3152327/)] 17.00
Paul Thomas Anderson[imdb (https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000759/)] 19.00


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: STT on February 19, 2022, 11:56:11 PM
I never thought I would see such odds for Will Smith, he has come a long way to do so well amazing!    He was first nominated 20 years ago, he has to be a fair contender but I think those odds are over done.   I do like him and the movies he has been in but I dont know its enough this time to get over that obstacle of a first win.
  Only true way to judge is properly view the films and decide best then vs all factors involved, I would be swayed towards Javier as he has quite a pedigree.  

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   King Richard   [imdb]   26.00
Also does this not equate as a disparity, long odds on the film but short for the actor.   Im more confident to bet these kind of odds when a film will take an oscar in several categories.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: perfect999 on February 20, 2022, 06:14:12 PM
I just see this thread and it make me laugh and awe. That even an event like this can be put in for betting on sportsbooks.
Betting on this should have seen those movies to have better knowledge and analysis who can get the award and I guess this is harder to win than a common sports betting.
What about in sports betting? Would you place your bet on it if you don't know who are the players or the teams that are involved? Unless if you are just trying your luck and don't mind losing. I am not really into sports and I don't know if which last longer, is it the sports or the movie?

I mean the duration of the movie and a sports match but i think it also depends on the game and on the movie but we can also used the internet as a reference to instantly know the player or the cast. That cuts time if your not really a fan of watching the whole movie or watching the sport. Oscar awards/betting is a serious event and there is nothing funny about it.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: PX-Z on February 20, 2022, 11:18:50 PM
I just see this thread and it make me laugh and awe. That even an event like this can be put in for betting on sportsbooks.
Betting on this should have seen those movies to have better knowledge and analysis who can get the award and I guess this is harder to win than a common sports betting.
What about in sports betting? Would you place your bet on it if you don't know who are the players or the teams that are involved? Unless if you are just trying your luck and don't mind losing. I am not really into sports and I don't know if which last longer, is it the sports or the movie?

I mean the duration of the movie and a sports match but i think it also depends on the game and on the movie but we can also used the internet as a reference to instantly know the player or the cast. That cuts time if your not really a fan of watching the whole movie or watching the sport. Oscar awards/betting is a serious event and there is nothing funny about it.
Now, now, you seem a very serious person who get annoyed just because you saw someone's laugh without understanding whats behind it.

Sports bet is very different and seems to easy to bet and choose, mostly sports only have 2 choices to bet.
Unlike this oscars that has lots of entries which last 1 to 2 hours per movie. You cant bet yet and have full analysis not until you watch all of them. So think and decide what is longer to watch.

Yes internet is everything, but you cant just decide that the movie is good just watching a single or two clips in the internet even reading reviews, you need to see it yourself.
Oscars is serious event, but betting is fun.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: YuginKadoya on February 20, 2022, 11:57:47 PM
I just see this thread and it make me laugh and awe. That even an event like this can be put in for betting on sportsbooks.
Betting on this should have seen those movies to have better knowledge and analysis who can get the award and I guess this is harder to win than a common sports betting.
What about in sports betting? Would you place your bet on it if you don't know who are the players or the teams that are involved? Unless if you are just trying your luck and don't mind losing. I am not really into sports and I don't know if which last longer, is it the sports or the movie?

I mean the duration of the movie and a sports match but i think it also depends on the game and on the movie but we can also used the internet as a reference to instantly know the player or the cast. That cuts time if your not really a fan of watching the whole movie or watching the sport. Oscar awards/betting is a serious event and there is nothing funny about it.
Now, now, you seem a very serious person who get annoyed just because you saw someone's laugh without understanding whats behind it.

Sports bet is very different and seems to easy to bet and choose, mostly sports only have 2 choices to bet.
Unlike this oscars that has lots of entries which last 1 to 2 hours per movie. You cant bet yet and have full analysis not until you watch all of them. So think and decide what is longer to watch.

Yes internet is everything, but you cant just decide that the movie is good just watching a single or two clips in the internet even reading reviews, you need to see it yourself.
Oscars is serious event, but betting is fun.

I sure think he is getting serious and at the same time confuse aswell in lumping the two because I think there is a big difference, Sports and movies can not go along or even players or key actors although we can surely bet on everything, we can not always assume that they can not go along even though we can make sports movies, and I agree, in movie's you would need to watch the whole movies even the slight details to really get the main point of the story, you can not assume by just looking at the title, or seeing their movie poster, or watch a quick 1 minute of the movie and saying it has a good story, or giving the plot of it, while in sports you don't need to see the whole game to see the results, for us getting the results in the sports is more important than watching the whole game,

Right now I am seeing copies of some of the movies given, but I could not watch them all because it will surely depend on your country if they would want to preview it on a cinema, or having access for that particular clip, but I will surely make my picks, on this.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: bbc.reporter on February 21, 2022, 04:03:09 AM
I just see this thread and it make me laugh and awe. That even an event like this can be put in for betting on sportsbooks.
Betting on this should have seen those movies to have better knowledge and analysis who can get the award and I guess this is harder to win than a common sports betting.
What about in sports betting? Would you place your bet on it if you don't know who are the players or the teams that are involved? Unless if you are just trying your luck and don't mind losing. I am not really into sports and I don't know if which last longer, is it the sports or the movie?

I mean the duration of the movie and a sports match but i think it also depends on the game and on the movie but we can also used the internet as a reference to instantly know the player or the cast. That cuts time if your not really a fan of watching the whole movie or watching the sport. Oscar awards/betting is a serious event and there is nothing funny about it.
Now, now, you seem a very serious person who get annoyed just because you saw someone's laugh without understanding whats behind it.

Sports bet is very different and seems to easy to bet and choose, mostly sports only have 2 choices to bet.
Unlike this oscars that has lots of entries which last 1 to 2 hours per movie. You cant bet yet and have full analysis not until you watch all of them. So think and decide what is longer to watch.

Yes internet is everything, but you cant just decide that the movie is good just watching a single or two clips in the internet even reading reviews, you need to see it yourself.
Oscars is serious event, but betting is fun.

As far as I can remember this is the gambling subforum. Also, if the sportsbooks did not list the odds for the Oscar awards, no person would be in awe and make them laugh. I like movies and I like gambling. The combination of the 2 is good for me. You should wait for Eurovision season and be again in laughter and awe.

Also, what does everyone predict the Oscar voters’ favorite political and social storyline might be for 2022? Will this be LGBTQ, religion and conflict, minorities and acceptance or children with disabilities awareness? It might be Elon and aliens hehehe.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: PX-Z on February 23, 2022, 06:48:04 PM
As far as I can remember this is the gambling subforum. Also, if the sportsbooks did not list the odds for the Oscar awards, no person would be in awe and make them laugh.
Well, this is my first time seeing such betting, so it is. I knew such bets occurs even the simplest competition, or going to happen is capable of being gambled or having bets.

Anyway, by such kind of gambling, this is not like a common in gambling where the victor totally depends on score in the fight or a fair play, judges has lots of influence for the outcome, so this may sound like a fixed match, it could happen or happened before, but who knows.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on February 23, 2022, 10:39:26 PM
Hollywood died because of our sins. If we weren't torrenting the shit out of them, they would be still alive and kicking now.  :P

Because of that, the best we got is shitty netflix productions full of sjw & lbgt propaganda.

We are the victims of our own greed.

Look how they massacred my boi. The Matrix Resurr... I can't even say its name. That fucking cocksucker Ton... I mean Lana Skorsky destroyed a fookin legend.
Not just Hollywood, it is same in every country, or maybe most countries, one of the greatest problem or rather, challenge the entertainment industry has is piracy , piracy is not just about fake copied movies on fake CD plates and all that, it boils down to downloading movies from illegal sources online too, almost everyone is a victim to this crime(if not everyone actually), except those who don't have a smart phone and an internet connection, the makers of this movies get nothing or gain nothing when we download and watch their movies from illegal or unverified sources, so truthfully, we individually contributed to the challenges the different movie industries around the world are facing today, so we really can not complain.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: TimeTeller on February 23, 2022, 10:46:42 PM
As far as I can remember this is the gambling subforum. Also, if the sportsbooks did not list the odds for the Oscar awards, no person would be in awe and make them laugh.
Well, this is my first time seeing such betting, so it is. I knew such bets occurs even the simplest competition, or going to happen is capable of being gambled or having bets.

Anyway, by such kind of gambling, this is not like a common in gambling where the victor totally depends on score in the fight or a fair play, judges has lots of influence for the outcome, so this may sound like a fixed match, it could happen or happened before, but who knows.

There are sportsbooks that have the list of odds already for Oscar Awards.
But I don't know if this kind of event really does attract the interest of gamblers.
And it is true, the judges are of great influence with the results.
Some are not confident to place bet because it depends on the mood of those judges.
We don't know their criteria of judging as it evolves thru time, their preferences and whatnot.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: bbc.reporter on February 24, 2022, 05:49:12 AM
As far as I can remember this is the gambling subforum. Also, if the sportsbooks did not list the odds for the Oscar awards, no person would be in awe and make them laugh.
Well, this is my first time seeing such betting, so it is. I knew such bets occurs even the simplest competition, or going to happen is capable of being gambled or having bets.

Anyway, by such kind of gambling, this is not like a common in gambling where the victor totally depends on score in the fight or a fair play, judges has lots of influence for the outcome, so this may sound like a fixed match, it could happen or happened before, but who knows.
 

Fixed match similar to what occurs to any sport like boxing or basketball games where referees, coaches or referees can be paid to influence the winners and losers of a game?

In any case, an argument can be made that match fixing in boxing or games similar to football and basketball are much easier than fixing the Oscars because the winners are determined by votes of the Academy of motion picture arts and sciences members. This will be similar to match fix an election because someone made a bet hehehe. You thought the winners are determined only by judges?


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: paxmao on February 24, 2022, 12:37:57 PM
For what I know, there is not much doubt that when Penelope is around, Almodóvar gets at least a nomination. This is all a very corrupt (perhaps corrupt may be too much) a a system. People in the academy sometimes are old glories that may be selling their votes for work or compensations of shorts and is all about a show of sponsoring brands and product placement by the "artists". We should re-think if all this is to the benefit of the arts.

e.g. Penelope does not do theatre. That is where a true actress shows what's got.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: KTChampions on February 24, 2022, 12:57:19 PM
For what I know, there is not much doubt that when Penelope is around, Almodóvar gets at least a nomination. This is all a very corrupt (perhaps corrupt may be too much) a a system. People in the academy sometimes are old glories that may be selling their votes for work or compensations of shorts and is all about a show of sponsoring brands and product placement by the "artists". We should re-think if all this is to the benefit of the arts.

e.g. Penelope does not do theatre. That is where a true actress shows what's got.

It is obvious that any competition where there are subjective assessments is corrupt to one degree or another, since each jury member pursues his own interests. But I think that most people understand this and do not take this competition seriously - it's just a corporate distribution of awards.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: molsewid on February 24, 2022, 01:28:56 PM
There are sportsbooks that have the list of odds already for Oscar Awards.
But I don't know if this kind of event really does attract the interest of gamblers.
And it is true, the judges are of great influence with the results.
Some are not confident to place bet because it depends on the mood of those judges.
We don't know their criteria of judging as it evolves thru time, their preferences and whatnot.

Ow, this betting activity is somehow kind of new to me, and in fairness sportsbooks are ready for this huh. But like what you have said buddy, I don't think this kind of event will really do attract the interest of gamblers because it is somehow like a fixed game, you may not be so sure who will be the one that would be awarded as Oscars winners. But still, I would like to see the list of the odds of those who are on top of the betting lists and maybe if it would interest me I would try to put my luck on trying to bet on it.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: electronicash on February 24, 2022, 04:34:11 PM
As far as I can remember this is the gambling subforum. Also, if the sportsbooks did not list the odds for the Oscar awards, no person would be in awe and make them laugh.
Well, this is my first time seeing such betting, so it is. I knew such bets occurs even the simplest competition, or going to happen is capable of being gambled or having bets.

Anyway, by such kind of gambling, this is not like a common in gambling where the victor totally depends on score in the fight or a fair play, judges has lots of influence for the outcome, so this may sound like a fixed match, it could happen or happened before, but who knows.
 

Fixed match similar to what occurs to any sport like boxing or basketball games where referees, coaches or referees can be paid to influence the winners and losers of a game?

In any case, an argument can be made that match fixing in boxing or games similar to football and basketball are much easier than fixing the Oscars because the winners are determined by votes of the Academy of motion picture arts and sciences members. This will be similar to match fix an election because someone made a bet hehehe. You thought the winners are determined only by judges?

do nominees influence the result of the votes? looking at the odds, it looks predetermined already who is going to win.

Best Picture    The Power of the Dog
Best Actor    Will Smith
Best Actress    Nicole Kidman
Best Supporting Actor   Kodi Smit McPhee
Best Supporting Actress   Ariana DeBose
Best Director    Jane Campion

i don't even know these names except smith and kidman who i believe had won thier awards before.




Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: PX-Z on February 24, 2022, 10:36:17 PM
because the winners are determined by votes of the Academy of motion picture arts and sciences members. This will be similar to match fix an election because someone made a bet hehehe. You thought the winners are determined only by judges?
Welp, good thing it works like that, as long as the voters are many in numbers and in different place to avoid influincing each other then it would be a relief.
The only hard thing to do is to watch all of the best movies/entries and decide the vote.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: bbc.reporter on February 25, 2022, 03:58:08 AM
As far as I can remember this is the gambling subforum. Also, if the sportsbooks did not list the odds for the Oscar awards, no person would be in awe and make them laugh.
Well, this is my first time seeing such betting, so it is. I knew such bets occurs even the simplest competition, or going to happen is capable of being gambled or having bets.

Anyway, by such kind of gambling, this is not like a common in gambling where the victor totally depends on score in the fight or a fair play, judges has lots of influence for the outcome, so this may sound like a fixed match, it could happen or happened before, but who knows.
 

Fixed match similar to what occurs to any sport like boxing or basketball games where referees, coaches or referees can be paid to influence the winners and losers of a game?

In any case, an argument can be made that match fixing in boxing or games similar to football and basketball are much easier than fixing the Oscars because the winners are determined by votes of the Academy of motion picture arts and sciences members. This will be similar to match fix an election because someone made a bet hehehe. You thought the winners are determined only by judges?

do nominees influence the result of the votes? looking at the odds, it looks predetermined already who is going to win.

Best Picture    The Power of the Dog
Best Actor    Will Smith
Best Actress    Nicole Kidman
Best Supporting Actor   Kodi Smit McPhee
Best Supporting Actress   Ariana DeBose
Best Director    Jane Campion

i don't even know these names except smith and kidman who i believe had won thier awards before.




This might be because there are rumors that are being leaked by Oscar voters and insiders on which movies’ nominations are getting much of the votes. The voting process has already begun on January 27 and ended on February 1 for the 9000 members of the academy. However, similar to the other Oscar awards, sometimes we should not assume that their victory is a certainty. The minor categories will show you this.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: fullhdpixel on February 26, 2022, 08:18:50 AM
because the winners are determined by votes of the Academy of motion picture arts and sciences members. This will be similar to match fix an election because someone made a bet hehehe. You thought the winners are determined only by judges?
Welp, good thing it works like that, as long as the voters are many in numbers and in different place to avoid influincing each other then it would be a relief.
The only hard thing to do is to watch all of the best movies/entries and decide the vote.
Influencing others? I think the more the people the more the influence can happen but no matter how low or high the voters are but if they will decided to cook the voting or the competition, it will be cooked. For those who didn't know the term cook or cooking is like a biased or unfair way of judging.

We think a judge is not enough to judge the quality of the films but we didn't know what if those judge are better than the other (academy of motion picture and science members) but that's fine if they are included, that can gave us extra confidence that the voting is fair. Watching the films carefully in our own can help us know if the judging was accurate or not.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: Theones on February 26, 2022, 05:45:13 PM
I am going to bet on Belfast. One of the best movies I have ever seen in my entire life. These kind of movies are not made anymore. Very informative, educational, heartbreaking, moving and beautiful piece of work. Such a treat to watch and it leaves on your mind for days.

For actor I am going to bet on Will Smith – I am his fan by the time I watched the movie “ the pursuit of happyness” He did an amazing job in King Richard too.  I like the thread, I will keep following it!

Figures crossed – May the best one wins


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: STT on February 26, 2022, 07:24:34 PM
Thats quite a commendation as most movies are popcorn fodder even if entertaining they are forgotten because thats the best way to watch them in the moment in an action way, luckily my memory isnt great and I rewatch lots of movies in that way.   I do know what you mean what makes me think its in with a good chance and the subject matter being so controversial and heart breaking has to be ideal Oscar material.   Its ticking all the boxes :)


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: Mauser on February 26, 2022, 09:38:30 PM

do nominees influence the result of the votes? looking at the odds, it looks predetermined already who is going to win.

Best Picture    The Power of the Dog
Best Actor    Will Smith
Best Actress    Nicole Kidman
Best Supporting Actor   Kodi Smit McPhee
Best Supporting Actress   Ariana DeBose
Best Director    Jane Campion

i don't even know these names except smith and kidman who i believe had won thier awards before.


Will Smith hasn't won an Oscar before, he was nominated for The Pursuit of Happyness and for Ali. Both pretty good movies, but he didn't win. Given that he is making movies and Series for such a long time, I would expect him to win this year. Nicole Kidman has one 1 Oscar so far I think, for best actress in The Hours, which was a  long time ago. The chances look good that these two will win this year. Nominees have definitely impact on the votes. As for the supporting actors/actress and director, I don't know them really. It's still some time left until the Academy Awards, I might bet 1-2 weeks before on Will Smith. He is a great actor and deserves his Oscar.  


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: alegotardo on February 27, 2022, 01:02:20 PM
Will Smith hasn't won an Oscar before, he was nominated for The Pursuit of Happyness and for Ali. Both pretty good movies, but he didn't win. Given that he is making movies and Series for such a long time, I would expect him to win this year. Nicole Kidman has one 1 Oscar so far I think, for best actress in The Hours, which was a  long time ago. The chances look good that these two will win this year. Nominees have definitely impact on the votes. As for the supporting actors/actress and director, I don't know them really. It's still some time left until the Academy Awards, I might bet 1-2 weeks before on Will Smith. He is a great actor and deserves his Oscar.

Everyone says that the favorite is Will Smith, and that's the only reason I believe he can win because the Oscar is bought, but I prefer to believe in my fundamentals.
Who should win is Benedict Cumberbatch, he represented a very difficult character, indecipherable, mysterious, silent, full of secrets in a constant internal conflict that dominates "Attack of the Dogs" moving the pieces of that game. It is also worth mentioning that we have a British man playing a real American cowboy in a delicate work to contain the accent and print his own way of speaking.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: Silberman on February 27, 2022, 09:20:12 PM
For what I know, there is not much doubt that when Penelope is around, Almodóvar gets at least a nomination. This is all a very corrupt (perhaps corrupt may be too much) a a system. People in the academy sometimes are old glories that may be selling their votes for work or compensations of shorts and is all about a show of sponsoring brands and product placement by the "artists". We should re-think if all this is to the benefit of the arts.

e.g. Penelope does not do theatre. That is where a true actress shows what's got.

It is obvious that any competition where there are subjective assessments is corrupt to one degree or another, since each jury member pursues his own interests. But I think that most people understand this and do not take this competition seriously - it's just a corporate distribution of awards.
There was a time in which these awards were taken way more seriously, as you say it is impossible that in something that is so subjective there is not going to be some sort of corruption, but at least there was some agreement between the critics in the population about the most important awards, however now the distance between those parties is so big that the public in general is losing interest in the awards as they do not see themselves reflected in the opinion of the critics.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: bbc.reporter on February 28, 2022, 02:28:52 AM
@Silberman. Agreed. However, because we know that politics, self interest or social narratives influence how the 9000 members of the academy vote, how do we use this to make our bets? This is why I was asking what are the political and social storylines of 2021?

I speculate if Russia’s attack on Ukraine begun before the Oscar awards’ voting process, I reckon the movie that might have the most votes or with the most attention would be a movie like Belfast. The American movie industry is overflowing with liberals and progresives who use the movies and awards presentations as a medium to deliver their messages and ideas hehehe.

In any case, 1.66 odds for best original screenplay for Licorice Pizza is very good, I reckon.

https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/specials/entertainment/oscar-best-writing-original-screenplay/oscar-best-writing-original-screenplay-62060d3ba4ec5bd31f06ae37

The movie was good, however, not very good. It appeared to be created by artists for artists who lived during the early 1970s in the San Fernando Valley area.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: Theones on February 28, 2022, 06:12:26 PM

do nominees influence the result of the votes? looking at the odds, it looks predetermined already who is going to win.

Best Picture    The Power of the Dog
Best Actor    Will Smith
Best Actress    Nicole Kidman
Best Supporting Actor   Kodi Smit McPhee
Best Supporting Actress   Ariana DeBose
Best Director    Jane Campion

i don't even know these names except smith and kidman who i believe had won thier awards before.


After reading the list of nominations I watched The Power of the Dog last night. But I am not very impressed with the story. To me Belfast has an amazing story line. That is super amazing and is very educational as well.
I am backing Will Smith as well he acting style is amazing and I am his great fan too.
I am sporting Nicole Kidman too.
I will be waiting anxiously for the final day. Want to see if Will Smith takes home the Oscar this year.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: paxmao on February 28, 2022, 09:32:29 PM
This is wishful thinking for me to be honest, but it seems that Dune has some chances, and that is quite amazing taking into account that there are at least a couple of movies about it and at least one extraordinary mini-series. I just love science fiction and I think that an Oscar given to a science fiction classic may result in more interest from the Hollywood producers to engage into further production.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: TimeTeller on February 28, 2022, 09:38:10 PM
Will Smith hasn't won an Oscar before, he was nominated for The Pursuit of Happyness and for Ali. Both pretty good movies, but he didn't win. Given that he is making movies and Series for such a long time, I would expect him to win this year. Nicole Kidman has one 1 Oscar so far I think, for best actress in The Hours, which was a  long time ago. The chances look good that these two will win this year. Nominees have definitely impact on the votes. As for the supporting actors/actress and director, I don't know them really. It's still some time left until the Academy Awards, I might bet 1-2 weeks before on Will Smith. He is a great actor and deserves his Oscar.

Everyone says that the favorite is Will Smith, and that's the only reason I believe he can win because the Oscar is bought, but I prefer to believe in my fundamentals.
Who should win is Benedict Cumberbatch, he represented a very difficult character, indecipherable, mysterious, silent, full of secrets in a constant internal conflict that dominates "Attack of the Dogs" moving the pieces of that game. It is also worth mentioning that we have a British man playing a real American cowboy in a delicate work to contain the accent and print his own way of speaking.

Now, lies what kind of politics is within the Oscar Academy Awards.
Cumberbatch is a very good competitor of Smith on this category, but we don't know the mood of the judges today.
I watched Smith's movie, and quite good as well. But if people are looking for a much challenging role, I can really go for Cumberbatch.
Once the results are out, we will understand how this Oscar's are panning out. And you will know if betting on Oscar's is worth or not.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: bbc.reporter on March 01, 2022, 05:48:38 AM
This is wishful thinking for me to be honest, but it seems that Dune has some chances, and that is quite amazing taking into account that there are at least a couple of movies about it and at least one extraordinary mini-series. I just love science fiction and I think that an Oscar given to a science fiction classic may result in more interest from the Hollywood producers to engage into further production.

I am quite certain that Dune will not have a chance to win the award for best picture. The academy also appears to have ignored Denis Villeneuve as a nominee for best director. However, it might win much of the awards in the minor categories like best visual effects, best film editing, best original score, best production design and in a major category, best cinematography. All of the odds have been presently listed in sportsbet.io and other sportsbooks beginning last week.



Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: Theones on March 02, 2022, 04:55:40 PM
Was there even a good movie in 2021? I don't remember I watched any quality movies lately. Oscar awards lost its meaning long time ago. Seems to me they are trying to keep this tradition alive desperately. Since there aren't any decent movies, they are throwing the awards randomly now. Which means, you can't really come up with an educated guess.
Definitely, the Oscar has lost some kind of adequacy in general.  After the Oscar for the fantastic "Avatar" film, I don't remember a single film that interested me at all, so that I realized that it was worthy of an award.  
And the point here is rather that the cinema and Hollywood are gradually heading towards the crisis of the genre, interesting, let alone worthy films less and less.  And lately, and in general one rubbish with computer special effects on the screens.

@mindrust I second that because I too don’t really remember any good movies, but we have to select based on what’s available to us and this applies only if one decides to to wager on this. Also it would be nice if the OP could have a poll, because it’s would be easier to wager based on the poll results so if possible do add the poll.
The only to movies I can see in my region on Netflix is The power of the dog and don’t look up.
I am looking forward to watch all the movies, which are nominated for the Oscar. Last day I was watching, the power of the dog and I failed to understand what made it nominated for Oscar. It seems like things are already decided and we are being fooled that it’s the people decision which decides the winner.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: og kush420 on March 02, 2022, 05:27:08 PM
This is wishful thinking for me to be honest, but it seems that Dune has some chances, and that is quite amazing taking into account that there are at least a couple of movies about it and at least one extraordinary mini-series. I just love science fiction and I think that an Oscar given to a science fiction classic may result in more interest from the Hollywood producers to engage into further production.
The tragedy of Macbeth is also an amazing movie - I am big fan of Shakespeare and I liked Macbeth since my college day. The movie is exact depiction of my idea in to hear  Denzel's saying "Lay on, Macduff; And damned be him that first cries, ‘Hold, enough!’" is gonna be epic! Frances Macdorman as one of the greatests female villains ever written,


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: Theones on March 04, 2022, 05:12:55 PM
This is wishful thinking for me to be honest, but it seems that Dune has some chances, and that is quite amazing taking into account that there are at least a couple of movies about it and at least one extraordinary mini-series. I just love science fiction and I think that an Oscar given to a science fiction classic may result in more interest from the Hollywood producers to engage into further production.
The tragedy of Macbeth is also an amazing movie - I am big fan of Shakespeare and I liked Macbeth since my college day. The movie is exact depiction of my idea in to hear  Denzel's saying "Lay on, Macduff; And damned be him that first cries, ‘Hold, enough!’" is gonna be epic! Frances Macdorman as one of the greatests female villains ever written,
I agree the tragedy of Macbeth is an amazing movie - This looks great but for those who are unaware, there was a recent film adaptation of Macbeth starring Michael Fassbender and Marion Cotillard which was beautifully shot and definitely worth a watch.
May Denzel win his third and Fran win her fourth Oscar for acting. Ameen


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: KTChampions on March 04, 2022, 05:58:57 PM
It is obvious that any competition where there are subjective assessments is corrupt to one degree or another, since each jury member pursues his own interests. But I think that most people understand this and do not take this competition seriously - it's just a corporate distribution of awards.
There was a time in which these awards were taken way more seriously, as you say it is impossible that in something that is so subjective there is not going to be some sort of corruption, but at least there was some agreement between the critics in the population about the most important awards, however now the distance between those parties is so big that the public in general is losing interest in the awards as they do not see themselves reflected in the opinion of the critics.

This is quite logical. I'm used to the situation (I consider it normal) when experts represent the opinion of the majority or at least different cultural strata. But when experts exist in a vacuum and give each other awards for all sorts of bullshit like the Malevich square (just for example), it starts to piss me off and I stop paying attention to them.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: bbc.reporter on March 10, 2022, 05:41:36 AM
It is obvious that any competition where there are subjective assessments is corrupt to one degree or another, since each jury member pursues his own interests. But I think that most people understand this and do not take this competition seriously - it's just a corporate distribution of awards.
There was a time in which these awards were taken way more seriously, as you say it is impossible that in something that is so subjective there is not going to be some sort of corruption, but at least there was some agreement between the critics in the population about the most important awards, however now the distance between those parties is so big that the public in general is losing interest in the awards as they do not see themselves reflected in the opinion of the critics.

This is quite logical. I'm used to the situation (I consider it normal) when experts represent the opinion of the majority or at least different cultural strata. But when experts exist in a vacuum and give each other awards for all sorts of bullshit like the Malevich square (just for example), it starts to piss me off and I stop paying attention to them.

Agreed. I reckon the Oscar awards are not the real representation of what is the best. The voting process is always mixed with politics and what is the social message of the year. It is only a representation of what is the best according to the members of the academy. I am quite certain the winners would change if we also include the fans in the voting process similar to Eurovision.

In any case, my best picture of 2021 would be Coda, best actor would be Tyrion Lannister hehe, best actress would be Emilia Jones and best director would Denis Villenueve.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: delfastTions on March 16, 2022, 01:56:06 PM
It is obvious that any competition where there are subjective assessments is corrupt to one degree or another, since each jury member pursues his own interests. But I think that most people understand this and do not take this competition seriously - it's just a corporate distribution of awards.
There was a time in which these awards were taken way more seriously, as you say it is impossible that in something that is so subjective there is not going to be some sort of corruption, but at least there was some agreement between the critics in the population about the most important awards, however now the distance between those parties is so big that the public in general is losing interest in the awards as they do not see themselves reflected in the opinion of the critics.

This is quite logical. I'm used to the situation (I consider it normal) when experts represent the opinion of the majority or at least different cultural strata. But when experts exist in a vacuum and give each other awards for all sorts of bullshit like the Malevich square (just for example), it starts to piss me off and I stop paying attention to them.

Agreed. I reckon the Oscar awards are not the real representation of what is the best. The voting process is always mixed with politics and what is the social message of the year. It is only a representation of what is the best according to the members of the academy. I am quite certain the winners would change if we also include the fans in the voting process similar to Eurovision.

In any case, my best picture of 2021 would be Coda, best actor would be Tyrion Lannister hehe, best actress would be Emilia Jones and best director would Denis Villenueve.
I, too, began to treat the Oscars with a great deal of skepticism. 
It also seems to me that the awards are distributed by prior arrangement of the jury members, and at the same time, their personal interest obviously takes place.  In other words, corruption.  And it should also be borne in mind that now the technical level of almost all new films is so high, taking into account the possibilities of computer scenes, that in this vein all films are equivalent. 

I sometimes enjoy watching Oscar-winning films in the 60s and 70s.  Then they were deservedly marked by the jury, which, by the way, was then much more objective and fair. 

In 2021, for some reason, I think that I deserve the "Power Of The Dog" award???


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: famososMuertos on March 25, 2022, 07:11:47 PM
Odds for the Oscar Awards 2022 are presently now available in different sportsbooks.

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Best actor odds

Smith, Will 1.33
Cumberbatch, Benedict 4.40
Garfield, Andrew 7.00
Washington, Denzel 23.00
Bardem, Javier 41.00


https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/specials/entertainment/oscar-best-actor/oscar-best-actor-615e9e2b5f61ff3968545d7b

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These odds have already dropped to 1.10

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I liked Will Smith's, it may not be one of WS's best performances but it is close by as when he was nominated for movie ALi, curious another movie related to sports.

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I would cross bet here given the odds with Cumberbatch, Benedict 4.40 now 6.00 according to the source referenced in the OP. Who doesn't want WS to finally win the academy award but something tells me there may be surprises, WS has had his disagreements with the academy.



Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on March 31, 2022, 03:14:18 PM

In any case, my best picture of 2021 would be Coda, best actor would be Tyrion Lannister hehe, best actress would be Emilia Jones and best director would Denis Villenueve.

Excellent, I think that would also be my favorite and the winner, although for this the ending was not up to par, I think the writers did not know how to take advantage of the goose that lays the golden eggs, and this time everything got out of control, personally I am one of the people who was most upset after seeing that, the chapter that I liked the most was the famous one: "Not today", finally since you name it, do you know if the book was already released? I would like to know the end well, the true end.

Does anyone already know what Will Smith's sanction is?


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: mm2543363580 on April 04, 2022, 03:13:59 PM

In any case, my best picture of 2021 would be Coda, best actor would be Tyrion Lannister hehe, best actress would be Emilia Jones and best director would Denis Villenueve.

Excellent, I think that would also be my favorite and the winner, although for this the ending was not up to par, I think the writers did not know how to take advantage of the goose that lays the golden eggs, and this time everything got out of control, personally I am one of the people who was most upset after seeing that, the chapter that I liked the most was the famous one: "Not today", finally since you name it, do you know if the book was already released? I would like to know the end well, the true end.

Does anyone already know what Will Smith's sanction is?
Those who placed a bet on Coda has a real insight into the event. Also many people were talking about Will Smith and he won - but what he did was not liked and admired by the people many people believe that this is scripted what do you think about it?


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: og kush420 on April 04, 2022, 03:58:18 PM


Agreed. I reckon the Oscar awards are not the real representation of what is the best. The voting process is always mixed with politics and what is the social message of the year. It is only a representation of what is the best according to the members of the academy. I am quite certain the winners would change if we also include the fans in the voting process similar to Eurovision.

In any case, my best picture of 2021 would be Coda, best actor would be Tyrion Lannister hehe, best actress would be Emilia Jones and best director would Denis Villenueve.
Also with the social and political influence we got to know that there are scripted events as well. I am not willinging to agree that Will Smith incident is not scripted.
The whole drama was part to script to gain following to the dying event.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: danadc on April 04, 2022, 06:08:30 PM
Will Smith's Many speculation that is just a montage, no one is a secret that in Los Angeles and Hollywood have their very murky things and that when they are thrown into the world, it makes their lives pains if you want, some become crazy , others kill them and then they say that they committed suicide, we have the case where some have left unharmed but with certain dismembered things in their lives, such as: Jim Carrey, Keanu Reeves, I would hate Qeu Will Smith starts to go wrong.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: Naficopa on April 04, 2022, 06:37:49 PM
Will Smith's Many speculation that is just a montage, no one is a secret that in Los Angeles and Hollywood have their very murky things and that when they are thrown into the world, it makes their lives pains if you want, some become crazy , others kill them and then they say that they committed suicide, we have the case where some have left unharmed but with certain dismembered things in their lives, such as: Jim Carrey, Keanu Reeves, I would hate Qeu Will Smith starts to go wrong.

Hoolywood is the place of scriptwriting, drama and scandal creation, so I'm surprised that anyone believes that what Will Smith did could be real.
I would be surprised if the Oscars were held without an incident that the whole world would talk about.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: bitbollo on April 04, 2022, 07:26:51 PM
Will Smith's Many speculation that is just a montage, no one is a secret that in Los Angeles and Hollywood have their very murky things and that when they are thrown into the world, it makes their lives pains if you want, some become crazy , others kill them and then they say that they committed suicide, we have the case where some have left unharmed but with certain dismembered things in their lives, such as: Jim Carrey, Keanu Reeves, I would hate Qeu Will Smith starts to go wrong.
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 I'm surprised that anyone believes that what Will Smith did could be real.
...

I don't know if it seems normal for you that one person slap another on such context worldwide.
there are lawyers and a law, a gesture like that it is primitive, and any of us (or just anyone) reacting in a similar way in daily life would have a lot of negative consequences ...


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: Viscore on April 04, 2022, 07:52:27 PM
Will Smith's Many speculation that is just a montage, no one is a secret that in Los Angeles and Hollywood have their very murky things and that when they are thrown into the world, it makes their lives pains if you want, some become crazy , others kill them and then they say that they committed suicide, we have the case where some have left unharmed but with certain dismembered things in their lives, such as: Jim Carrey, Keanu Reeves, I would hate Qeu Will Smith starts to go wrong.
...
 I'm surprised that anyone believes that what Will Smith did could be real.
...

I don't know if it seems normal for you that one person slap another on such context worldwide.
there are lawyers and a law, a gesture like that it is primitive, and any of us (or just anyone) reacting in a similar way in daily life would have a lot of negative consequences ...
The act of Will Smith was definitely unacceptable and there should be a disciplinary action, either suspension, expulsion, or any other sanctions because what he did was clearly against The Academy's Standards of Conduct. Although Will Smith made an apology to Chris Rock, but i think it's not enough. He should still be given proper sanctions and be responsible of his own action.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: Theones on April 04, 2022, 08:22:33 PM
Will Smith's Many speculation that is just a montage, no one is a secret that in Los Angeles and Hollywood have their very murky things and that when they are thrown into the world, it makes their lives pains if you want, some become crazy , others kill them and then they say that they committed suicide, we have the case where some have left unharmed but with certain dismembered things in their lives, such as: Jim Carrey, Keanu Reeves, I would hate Qeu Will Smith starts to go wrong.
...
 I'm surprised that anyone believes that what Will Smith did could be real.
...

I don't know if it seems normal for you that one person slap another on such context worldwide.
there are lawyers and a law, a gesture like that it is primitive, and any of us (or just anyone) reacting in a similar way in daily life would have a lot of negative consequences ...
The act of Will Smith was definitely unacceptable and there should be a disciplinary action, either suspension, expulsion, or any other sanctions because what he did was clearly against The Academy's Standards of Conduct. Although Will Smith made an apology to Chris Rock, but i think it's not enough. He should still be given proper sanctions and be responsible of his own action.
In other forums - I spoke so high about WS and many people were of the opinion that Will Smith should win the award for his honesty to the acting industry. But in my opinion he will not be punished what he did because like many others I also believe that this was a scripted plot.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: mm2543363580 on April 05, 2022, 11:26:57 AM
Will Smith's Many speculation that is just a montage, no one is a secret that in Los Angeles and Hollywood have their very murky things and that when they are thrown into the world, it makes their lives pains if you want, some become crazy , others kill them and then they say that they committed suicide, we have the case where some have left unharmed but with certain dismembered things in their lives, such as: Jim Carrey, Keanu Reeves, I would hate Qeu Will Smith starts to go wrong.

Hoolywood is the place of scriptwriting, drama and scandal creation, so I'm surprised that anyone believes that what Will Smith did could be real.
I would be surprised if the Oscars were held without an incident that the whole world would talk about.
Agreed -  in  many other forums - a huge number of  people believed that it was a scripted incident. How can someone dare to make a lame joke in such a big event? - I am not an expert but does the script not being pre approved by the concerned before they finally come to stage.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: virasog on April 05, 2022, 12:49:13 PM
Will Smith's Many speculation that is just a montage, no one is a secret that in Los Angeles and Hollywood have their very murky things and that when they are thrown into the world, it makes their lives pains if you want, some become crazy , others kill them and then they say that they committed suicide, we have the case where some have left unharmed but with certain dismembered things in their lives, such as: Jim Carrey, Keanu Reeves, I would hate Qeu Will Smith starts to go wrong.
...
 I'm surprised that anyone believes that what Will Smith did could be real.
...

I don't know if it seems normal for you that one person slap another on such context worldwide.
there are lawyers and a law, a gesture like that it is primitive, and any of us (or just anyone) reacting in a similar way in daily life would have a lot of negative consequences ...
The act of Will Smith was definitely unacceptable and there should be a disciplinary action, either suspension, expulsion, or any other sanctions because what he did was clearly against The Academy's Standards of Conduct. Although Will Smith made an apology to Chris Rock, but i think it's not enough. He should still be given proper sanctions and be responsible of his own action.
In other forums - I spoke so high about WS and many people were of the opinion that Will Smith should win the award for his honesty to the acting industry. But in my opinion he will not be punished what he did because like many others I also believe that this was a scripted plot.

I cannot say with surety if this was a scripted plot or a real event. If this was scripted, then why right after the slapping incident, the mikes were closed? We saw Will smith abusing to his full throat at the host but could not hear because the mic was muted at that time.
If he did it deliberately, he should be punished for it otherwise it will become a routine in live events.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: aioc on April 05, 2022, 01:57:22 PM


I cannot say with surety if this was a scripted plot or a real event. If this was scripted, then why right after the slapping incident, the mikes were closed? We saw Will smith abusing to his full throat at the host but could not hear because the mic was muted at that time.
If he did it deliberately, he should be punished for it otherwise it will become a routine in live events.

Based on his recent posts he is very sorry for what he did some of his projects are on hold like the Bad Guys movie and the one with Netflix he also resigned from the Oscars, the incident di Will Smith more harm than Chris Rock, he is exposed as a violent mind nobody wants to be associated with Will Smith right now, the man is wrecked, there's a lot of jokes right now about Will Smith.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: virasog on April 05, 2022, 02:40:10 PM


I cannot say with surety if this was a scripted plot or a real event. If this was scripted, then why right after the slapping incident, the mikes were closed? We saw Will smith abusing to his full throat at the host but could not hear because the mic was muted at that time.
If he did it deliberately, he should be punished for it otherwise it will become a routine in live events.

Based on his recent posts he is very sorry for what he did some of his projects are on hold like the Bad Guys movie and the one with Netflix he also resigned from the Oscars, the incident di Will Smith more harm than Chris Rock, he is exposed as a violent mind nobody wants to be associated with Will Smith right now, the man is wrecked, there's a lot of jokes right now about Will Smith.

So all these things prove that Will Smith did it intentionally. Since he is sorry for what he did, this shows that all this happened because of his emotions.
Social media is filled with Memes for both Will Smith and Chris Rock, as some people are enjoying the moment while others are showing deep concerns over the incident.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: og kush420 on April 05, 2022, 05:10:30 PM


I cannot say with surety if this was a scripted plot or a real event. If this was scripted, then why right after the slapping incident, the mikes were closed? We saw Will smith abusing to his full throat at the host but could not hear because the mic was muted at that time.
If he did it deliberately, he should be punished for it otherwise it will become a routine in live events.

Based on his recent posts he is very sorry for what he did some of his projects are on hold like the Bad Guys movie and the one with Netflix he also resigned from the Oscars, the incident di Will Smith more harm than Chris Rock, he is exposed as a violent mind nobody wants to be associated with Will Smith right now, the man is wrecked, there's a lot of jokes right now about Will Smith.

So all these things prove that Will Smith did it intentionally. Since he is sorry for what he did, this shows that all this happened because of his emotions.
Social media is filled with Memes for both Will Smith and Chris Rock, as some people are enjoying the moment while others are showing deep concerns over the incident.
That was the ultimate plan. To get recognition and let people know who got which award. So everyone knows that Will Smith won the best actors award and what has happened in the show and the memes got popular and people started talking about the dying event. Hence a success.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: Theones on April 05, 2022, 06:11:52 PM


I cannot say with surety if this was a scripted plot or a real event. If this was scripted, then why right after the slapping incident, the mikes were closed? We saw Will smith abusing to his full throat at the host but could not hear because the mic was muted at that time.
If he did it deliberately, he should be punished for it otherwise it will become a routine in live events.

Based on his recent posts he is very sorry for what he did some of his projects are on hold like the Bad Guys movie and the one with Netflix he also resigned from the Oscars, the incident di Will Smith more harm than Chris Rock, he is exposed as a violent mind nobody wants to be associated with Will Smith right now, the man is wrecked, there's a lot of jokes right now about Will Smith.
So sorry for what has happened. It is better to have a self control rather than be having aggressive.
Will Smith won the award for the first time in his life and before Oscar everyone was betting on Will Smith but after Oscar everyone was shocked for what has happened.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: South Park on April 05, 2022, 07:17:27 PM
Will Smith's Many speculation that is just a montage, no one is a secret that in Los Angeles and Hollywood have their very murky things and that when they are thrown into the world, it makes their lives pains if you want, some become crazy , others kill them and then they say that they committed suicide, we have the case where some have left unharmed but with certain dismembered things in their lives, such as: Jim Carrey, Keanu Reeves, I would hate Qeu Will Smith starts to go wrong.

Hoolywood is the place of scriptwriting, drama and scandal creation, so I'm surprised that anyone believes that what Will Smith did could be real.
I would be surprised if the Oscars were held without an incident that the whole world would talk about.
This reminds me of what happened in one of the Miss Universe pageants in which supposedly the announcer read the card wrong and announced the wrong winner only to have to correct himself after a few minutes, if I am not mistaken I think that was the first pageant after Trump sold his rights to the organization, so they needed to make an impact and in my opinion this was the way they decided do it, so I see what happened with Smith in the same way.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: carlfebz2 on April 05, 2022, 09:27:32 PM


I cannot say with surety if this was a scripted plot or a real event. If this was scripted, then why right after the slapping incident, the mikes were closed? We saw Will smith abusing to his full throat at the host but could not hear because the mic was muted at that time.
If he did it deliberately, he should be punished for it otherwise it will become a routine in live events.

Based on his recent posts he is very sorry for what he did some of his projects are on hold like the Bad Guys movie and the one with Netflix he also resigned from the Oscars, the incident di Will Smith more harm than Chris Rock, he is exposed as a violent mind nobody wants to be associated with Will Smith right now, the man is wrecked, there's a lot of jokes right now about Will Smith.
So sorry for what has happened. It is better to have a self control rather than be having aggressive.
Will Smith won the award for the first time in his life and before Oscar everyone was betting on Will Smith but after Oscar everyone was shocked for what has happened.
Once do impression do change then it would really be for a lifetime or wont really be forgotten specially for this kind of aggressive behavior.He's not only affecting his own image but also into the opportunities attached

to it which means it is the consequences on what he had done.He might be sorry but it is really too late because that would really be giving out the impression that would really last for a lifetime.
Thats why you should think first before making any actions because you wont know that it would really be costing something which you didnt expect for it to happen.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: TheGreatPython on April 05, 2022, 09:48:27 PM
Based on his recent posts he is very sorry for what he did some of his projects are on hold like the Bad Guys movie and the one with Netflix he also resigned from the Oscars, the incident di Will Smith more harm than Chris Rock, he is exposed as a violent mind nobody wants to be associated with Will Smith right now, the man is wrecked, there's a lot of jokes right now about Will Smith.
So sorry for what has happened. It is better to have a self control rather than be having aggressive.
Will Smith won the award for the first time in his life and before Oscar everyone was betting on Will Smith but after Oscar everyone was shocked for what has happened.
Why sorry? You didn't do anything bad bruh, it was will smith that acted sour. Self control is a must especially on this kind of place or event because it was Oscars, it's prestigious. It's okay to become aggressive but it must be done only on right places, like in the backstage where no camera is present and no crowd is watching.

It's not surprising if everyone is betting on will smith because the guy is a good actor but I can't believe that its only the first time where he won an award? the same thing happens with leonardo de caprio, despite of his good acting skills, he rarely won an award. What smith did in the Oscars is really shocking, no one expected that.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: coin-investor on April 05, 2022, 10:07:04 PM

Why sorry? You didn't do anything bad bruh, it was will smith that acted sour. Self control is a must especially on this kind of place or event because it was Oscars, it's prestigious. It's okay to become aggressive but it must be done only on right places, like in the backstage where no camera is present and no crowd is watching.

It's not surprising if everyone is betting on will smith because the guy is a good actor but I can't believe that its only the first time where he won an award? the same thing happens with leonardo de caprio, despite of his good acting skills, he rarely won an award. What smith did in the Oscars is really shocking, no one expected that.

His winning the best actor is forgettable it should be the best moment of his life but what happens is people are disgusted with what he had done, he already offered apologies and resigned from Oscar, and many of his projects are shelved it could be the end of his career what could be the start of another milestone for his career ended because of his out of control behavior I wonder what would be the next set up in the next Oscar after this incident.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: dunfida on April 05, 2022, 11:37:14 PM

Why sorry? You didn't do anything bad bruh, it was will smith that acted sour. Self control is a must especially on this kind of place or event because it was Oscars, it's prestigious. It's okay to become aggressive but it must be done only on right places, like in the backstage where no camera is present and no crowd is watching.

It's not surprising if everyone is betting on will smith because the guy is a good actor but I can't believe that its only the first time where he won an award? the same thing happens with leonardo de caprio, despite of his good acting skills, he rarely won an award. What smith did in the Oscars is really shocking, no one expected that.

His winning the best actor is forgettable it should be the best moment of his life but what happens is people are disgusted with what he had done, he already offered apologies and resigned from Oscar, and many of his projects are shelved it could be the end of his career what could be the start of another milestone for his career ended because of his out of control behavior I wonder what would be the next set up in the next Oscar after this incident.
Jada Pinkett Smith ‘Wishes’ Will Smith Didn’t Slap Chris Rock at Oscars, They Agree He ‘Overreacted’
Source: https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/jada-pinkett-smith-wishes-will-smith-didnt-slap-chris-rock/

He shouldnt have done that even his wife do sees the same.Now he had put up himself on big problem.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: og kush420 on April 06, 2022, 05:44:34 PM

Why sorry? You didn't do anything bad bruh, it was will smith that acted sour. Self control is a must especially on this kind of place or event because it was Oscars, it's prestigious. It's okay to become aggressive but it must be done only on right places, like in the backstage where no camera is present and no crowd is watching.

It's not surprising if everyone is betting on will smith because the guy is a good actor but I can't believe that its only the first time where he won an award? the same thing happens with leonardo de caprio, despite of his good acting skills, he rarely won an award. What smith did in the Oscars is really shocking, no one expected that.
Valid point that should have been done at the back stage where there are no camera and no crowd is watching. But how would the incident get fame?
I believe that is to gain following and nothing else.
HAd that had happened at the backstage. No One would have learnt that it had happened.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: Gozie51 on April 06, 2022, 06:08:51 PM

Why sorry? You didn't do anything bad bruh, it was will smith that acted sour. Self control is a must especially on this kind of place or event because it was Oscars, it's prestigious. It's okay to become aggressive but it must be done only on right places, like in the backstage where no camera is present and no crowd is watching.

It's not surprising if everyone is betting on will smith because the guy is a good actor but I can't believe that its only the first time where he won an award? the same thing happens with leonardo de caprio, despite of his good acting skills, he rarely won an award. What smith did in the Oscars is really shocking, no one expected that.
Valid point that should have been done at the back stage where there are no camera and no crowd is watching. But how would the incident get fame?
I believe that is to gain following and nothing else.
HAd that had happened at the backstage. No One would have learnt that it had happened.

I believe back stage could have cameras, it was an Oscar and anything would have been a news item. Even if the cameras didn't pick it back stage but it would have appeared somehow to the public as rumour maybe leaving the public to run a guess and doubt on it. Well it was in public , Smith went really below the belt for someone of his pedigree. He is lucky Chris is not filing a case against him.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: milewilda on April 06, 2022, 08:38:00 PM

Why sorry? You didn't do anything bad bruh, it was will smith that acted sour. Self control is a must especially on this kind of place or event because it was Oscars, it's prestigious. It's okay to become aggressive but it must be done only on right places, like in the backstage where no camera is present and no crowd is watching.

It's not surprising if everyone is betting on will smith because the guy is a good actor but I can't believe that its only the first time where he won an award? the same thing happens with leonardo de caprio, despite of his good acting skills, he rarely won an award. What smith did in the Oscars is really shocking, no one expected that.
Valid point that should have been done at the back stage where there are no camera and no crowd is watching. But how would the incident get fame?
I believe that is to gain following and nothing else.
HAd that had happened at the backstage. No One would have learnt that it had happened.

I believe back stage could have cameras, it was an Oscar and anything would have been a news item. Even if the cameras didn't pick it back stage but it would have appeared somehow to the public as rumour maybe leaving the public to run a guess and doubt on it. Well it was in public , Smith went really below the belt for someone of his pedigree. He is lucky Chris is not filing a case against him.
Whether there's a camera or not on the backstage but he should'nt have done that in the first place.It is truly below the belt on such kind of behavior that he had shown on a prestigious event.
He should have controlled his temper even though that joke turns out to be that offensive for his part but its not really truly a behavior of a true professional.
There would be no problems if he had just let it pass away but well we do have different level of tolerance which we could not really stop on some point or scenario.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: og kush420 on April 08, 2022, 06:45:27 PM

Why sorry? You didn't do anything bad bruh, it was will smith that acted sour. Self control is a must especially on this kind of place or event because it was Oscars, it's prestigious. It's okay to become aggressive but it must be done only on right places, like in the backstage where no camera is present and no crowd is watching.

It's not surprising if everyone is betting on will smith because the guy is a good actor but I can't believe that its only the first time where he won an award? the same thing happens with leonardo de caprio, despite of his good acting skills, he rarely won an award. What smith did in the Oscars is really shocking, no one expected that.
Valid point that should have been done at the back stage where there are no camera and no crowd is watching. But how would the incident get fame?
I believe that is to gain following and nothing else.
HAd that had happened at the backstage. No One would have learnt that it had happened.

I believe back stage could have cameras, it was an Oscar and anything would have been a news item. Even if the cameras didn't pick it back stage but it would have appeared somehow to the public as rumour maybe leaving the public to run a guess and doubt on it. Well it was in public , Smith went really below the belt for someone of his pedigree. He is lucky Chris is not filing a case against him.
Valid point - be it on stage or off stage on stage one should abstain from indulging in such kind of aggressive act. WS appeared to be a Macho. A real macho who made his struggle a matter  of debate for his silly act. One should have a strong self control - hence proved!


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: Kasabus on April 08, 2022, 08:46:23 PM
I saw a youtube speculating that the slap is just staged, because they say that no one is watching Oscars anymore, and after that slap, here's what happened.

 Oscars audience grew by 555,000 after Will Smith slapped Chris Rock. (https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/29/business/media/oscars-ratings-will-smith-chris-rock.html)

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The Oscars audience swelled by more than half a million people on Sunday shortly after Will Smith slapped Chris Rock, capping the awards show with a late-night surge.

At 10:27 p.m., Mr. Smith attacked Mr. Rock after the comedian delivered a joke onstage about Mr. Smith’s wife, Jada Pinkett Smith. Nearly 17.4 million viewers were watching in the minutes after the slap, up from 16.8 million shortly before it, according to Nielsen data released by ABC.

If the speculation is right, then congratulations to them as they did a great job on acting.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: STT on April 08, 2022, 08:57:01 PM
^^  Thats why he is not hurt in the end just like Chris Rock can handle a simple slap, I think he is ok and everyone was an adult its not that a big deal however upsetting for a moment, impolite etc.

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it could be the end of his career


Its a million dollar mistake, put it that way if you like but also consider for a kid from a comedy tv show he done good already and he already had more money then he will need for the rest of his life.  Its not really a loss, he'll miss a project opportunity but actors lose out on chances just because of their accent or a multitude of factors.   No way could it end his career, not when you consider the diabolical failings in other actors.   Robert Downey junior for example broke into a families house and fell asleep on the floor of a childs bedroom, he recovered from the epic mistakes he made.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: Saisher on April 08, 2022, 11:45:49 PM
Here is the result of Oscar's board meeting, they are banning Will Smith from attending the ceremony for the next ten years

Actor Will Smith banned from attending Oscars for 10 years (https://edition.cnn.com/2022/04/08/entertainment/will-smith-academy-sanctions-decision/index.html)

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"The Board has decided, for a period of 10 years from April 8, 2022, Mr. Smith shall not be permitted to attend any Academy events or programs, in person or virtually, including but not limited to the Academy Awards," Academy President David Rubin and CEO Dawn Hudson said in a statement on Friday.

I think it should be a lifetime ban for showing violence around the world, the scene is very traumatic and it sets a bad precedence, he has a lifetime to regret his action and he needs a psychologist because he has an outburst of anger that he could not control.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: STT on April 08, 2022, 11:53:14 PM
He could control because it was just a slap, poorly judged action perhaps but hardly worthy of any great criticism.   10 years only hurts him because I presume it means he cannot be a winner either which to me is not right but maybe Im wrong and he can still win just not collect in person an award.    I get they have to disapprove of his actions, clearly but it was hardly an escalatory action.   I dont see why comedy became about insulting people for things they cannot change and the joke wasnt even funny.
  Where is the bet I can place and odds to see Will Smith win another award within a decade.  Surely I can get 500 to 1 on such a thing unless its specifically stated as impossible.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: onecall123 on April 09, 2022, 06:00:02 AM
Here is the result of Oscar's board meeting, they are banning Will Smith from attending the ceremony for the next ten years

Actor Will Smith banned from attending Oscars for 10 years (https://edition.cnn.com/2022/04/08/entertainment/will-smith-academy-sanctions-decision/index.html)

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"The Board has decided, for a period of 10 years from April 8, 2022, Mr. Smith shall not be permitted to attend any Academy events or programs, in person or virtually, including but not limited to the Academy Awards," Academy President David Rubin and CEO Dawn Hudson said in a statement on Friday.

I think it should be a lifetime ban for showing violence around the world, the scene is very traumatic and it sets a bad precedence, he has a lifetime to regret his action and he needs a psychologist because he has an outburst of anger that he could not control.
The punishment was calculated appropriately, I believe. If you slap, you get slapped in return. The cycle of life sometimes. It is reasonable to wait 10 years. The first thing that came to mind was that he should not be allowed back. We have zero tolerance for abuse and for ruining everyone's night.

But, Is it wise to constantly add fuel to the fire? Everyone makes mistakes and tempers flare occasionally. How would you have reacted if you were him?


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: Gozie51 on April 09, 2022, 09:56:51 AM
Here is the result of Oscar's board meeting, they are banning Will Smith from attending the ceremony for the next ten years

Actor Will Smith banned from attending Oscars for 10 years (https://edition.cnn.com/2022/04/08/entertainment/will-smith-academy-sanctions-decision/index.html)

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"The Board has decided, for a period of 10 years from April 8, 2022, Mr. Smith shall not be permitted to attend any Academy events or programs, in person or virtually, including but not limited to the Academy Awards," Academy President David Rubin and CEO Dawn Hudson said in a statement on Friday.

I think it should be a lifetime ban for showing violence around the world, the scene is very traumatic and it sets a bad precedence, he has a lifetime to regret his action and he needs a psychologist because he has an outburst of anger that he could not control.

But, Is it wise to constantly add fuel to the fire? Everyone makes mistakes and tempers flare occasionally. How would you have reacted if you were him?


Surely he was provoked but he didn't act like a civilized man to go hit Chris on stage where the world was watching. To hold back temper and not to go physical would have made him run away from this 10 years ban that I think is too much for Will Smith. That means it might affect his career and his works may not be nominated at the Oscar for that same period. In fact Smith would have chosen to go to court charge Chris for seditious libel against his wife rather the part he choose to show he is manly against Chris and taken his career 10 years backwards.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: judeafante on April 09, 2022, 10:14:48 AM
Here is the result of Oscar's board meeting, they are banning Will Smith from attending the ceremony for the next ten years

Actor Will Smith banned from attending Oscars for 10 years (https://edition.cnn.com/2022/04/08/entertainment/will-smith-academy-sanctions-decision/index.html)

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"The Board has decided, for a period of 10 years from April 8, 2022, Mr. Smith shall not be permitted to attend any Academy events or programs, in person or virtually, including but not limited to the Academy Awards," Academy President David Rubin and CEO Dawn Hudson said in a statement on Friday.

I think it should be a lifetime ban for showing violence around the world, the scene is very traumatic and it sets a bad precedence, he has a lifetime to regret his action and he needs a psychologist because he has an outburst of anger that he could not control.
The punishment was calculated appropriately, I believe. If you slap, you get slapped in return. The cycle of life sometimes. It is reasonable to wait 10 years. The first thing that came to mind was that he should not be allowed back. We have zero tolerance for abuse and for ruining everyone's night.

But, Is it wise to constantly add fuel to the fire? Everyone makes mistakes and tempers flare occasionally. How would you have reacted if you were him?

Are you talking about Will Smith a civilized person will just talk to Chris Rock and stop him from talking about his wife, and Chris will understand it or don't laugh it will hurt the comedian if you are not laughing at their joke, what Will Smith did traumatize millions of people one of them is Ellen DeGeneres a talk show host.
The Oscars has become a platfrom of violence because of what Will Smith did.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: Boristhecat on April 09, 2022, 10:17:04 AM
The punishment was calculated appropriately, I believe. If you slap, you get slapped in return. The cycle of life sometimes. It is reasonable to wait 10 years. The first thing that came to mind was that he should not be allowed back. We have zero tolerance for abuse and for ruining everyone's night.

But, Is it wise to constantly add fuel to the fire? Everyone makes mistakes and tempers flare occasionally. How would you have reacted if you were him?

I hope this is a real punishment that will not be lifted in a year or two. And in fact, this whole situation is already very tiring - how much news can you make from one event? It seems that this was the only event at this Oscar ceremony. This ceremony itself is of no interest to anyone anymore.
By the way, judging by the videos that get into social networks, Smith really has big problems in family relationships.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: Rikafip on April 09, 2022, 11:30:21 AM
Here is the result of Oscar's board meeting, they are banning Will Smith from attending the ceremony for the next ten years

Actor Will Smith banned from attending Oscars for 10 years (https://edition.cnn.com/2022/04/08/entertainment/will-smith-academy-sanctions-decision/index.html)
I hope that stops all that nonsense about him slapping Chris was a set up while it was obvious it wasn't to anyone that knows few things about Oscars and Hollywood in general. 


I think it should be a lifetime ban for showing violence around the world, the scene is very traumatic and it sets a bad precedence, he has a lifetime to regret his action and he needs a psychologist because he has an outburst of anger that he could not control.
Let's not overdo it, I would say that 10 year ban is appropriate and in the end he done enough damage to himself and his career.


How would you have reacted if you were him?
I don't know if you watched the Oscars, but he was laughing at the Rock's joke at first and only after he saw his wife's face he changed his mood. And hosts roasting the actors in the audience is standard practice on these ceremonies.


Where is the bet I can place and odds to see Will Smith win another award within a decade.
I wouldn't be so sure. Movie studios already starter delaying his movies (Bad Boys 4) and I don't see him recovering from this fast. After all, it's not like he won bunch of awards before (at least not the ones that reallyu matter) and that he will just continue with business as usual.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: Mahanton on April 09, 2022, 12:31:43 PM
The punishment was calculated appropriately, I believe. If you slap, you get slapped in return. The cycle of life sometimes. It is reasonable to wait 10 years. The first thing that came to mind was that he should not be allowed back. We have zero tolerance for abuse and for ruining everyone's night.

But, Is it wise to constantly add fuel to the fire? Everyone makes mistakes and tempers flare occasionally. How would you have reacted if you were him?

I hope this is a real punishment that will not be lifted in a year or two. And in fact, this whole situation is already very tiring - how much news can you make from one event? It seems that this was the only event at this Oscar ceremony. This ceremony itself is of no interest to anyone anymore.
By the way, judging by the videos that get into social networks, Smith really has big problems in family relationships.
Wont be surprised if one day there would be some announcement that the said ban would be lift up or would really be decreased or lessen down but still no matter how things been settled where things had already been
done and those impressions of the public or fans overall would be totally on that negative side of things which i could not blame them off.Even though some do say that what if we are on his situation?
Pretty much sure it would really be still a hard decision to be made off but since you are on prestigious event then you dont really have the rights on slapping someone in front of the public or
internationally. Good thing that Rock didnt file any case or something or else that would make his problem even more worst.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: robelneo on April 09, 2022, 01:41:54 PM


Wont be surprised if one day there would be some announcement that the said ban would be lift up or would really be decreased or lessen down but still no matter how things been settled where things had already been
done and those impressions of the public or fans overall would be totally on that negative side of things which i could not blame them off.Even though some do say that what if we are on his situation?
Pretty much sure it would really be still a hard decision to be made off but since you are on prestigious event then you dont really have the rights on slapping someone in front of the public or
internationally. Good thing that Rock didnt file any case or something or else that would make his problem even more worst.

They should uphold their decision or they will be a laughing stock, of all the Oscars this is the biggest hit all over the world, it overshadowed everything even the Russian - Ukraine war, it's the first it happen on an awarding night, this incident will haunt Will Smith for the rest of his life, I have total respect to Chris Rock for being so professional and not making it worse, he is still processing what happened because Will Smith is an old friend and getting hit by a friend in front of millions is really hard to process.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: Theones on April 10, 2022, 12:42:03 PM
Will Smith's Many speculation that is just a montage, no one is a secret that in Los Angeles and Hollywood have their very murky things and that when they are thrown into the world, it makes their lives pains if you want, some become crazy , others kill them and then they say that they committed suicide, we have the case where some have left unharmed but with certain dismembered things in their lives, such as: Jim Carrey, Keanu Reeves, I would hate Qeu Will Smith starts to go wrong.

Hoolywood is the place of scriptwriting, drama and scandal creation, so I'm surprised that anyone believes that what Will Smith did could be real.
I would be surprised if the Oscars were held without an incident that the whole world would talk about.
This reminds me of what happened in one of the Miss Universe pageants in which supposedly the announcer read the card wrong and announced the wrong winner only to have to correct himself after a few minutes, if I am not mistaken I think that was the first pageant after Trump sold his rights to the organization, so they needed to make an impact and in my opinion this was the way they decided do it, so I see what happened with Smith in the same way.
Yes - that was the blunder -never to be forgotten - -  a. moment of happiness for a minute and moment of distress in the other.
This is life, we run for something, power, fame and money and we find everything use less in the other moment, this is the true meaning of life.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: mm2543363580 on April 10, 2022, 01:26:58 PM


Wont be surprised if one day there would be some announcement that the said ban would be lift up or would really be decreased or lessen down but still no matter how things been settled where things had already been
done and those impressions of the public or fans overall would be totally on that negative side of things which i could not blame them off.Even though some do say that what if we are on his situation?
Pretty much sure it would really be still a hard decision to be made off but since you are on prestigious event then you dont really have the rights on slapping someone in front of the public or
internationally. Good thing that Rock didnt file any case or something or else that would make his problem even more worst.

They should uphold their decision or they will be a laughing stock, of all the Oscars this is the biggest hit all over the world, it overshadowed everything even the Russian - Ukraine war, it's the first it happen on an awarding night, this incident will haunt Will Smith for the rest of his life, I have total respect to Chris Rock for being so professional and not making it worse, he is still processing what happened because Will Smith is an old friend and getting hit by a friend in front of millions is really hard to process.
On a side note - that incident is selling and they are getting fame and ranking. Which is a success itself.
Chris Rock should be careful too. You are right it is hard to believe and hit by a friend but it is hard to believe the you are  mocked by a friend too


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: judeafante on April 10, 2022, 02:45:17 PM

On a side note - that incident is selling and they are getting fame and ranking. Which is a success itself.
Chris Rock should be careful too. You are right it is hard to believe and hit by a friend but it is hard to believe the you are  mocked by a friend too

I feel sorry for those other winners they are totally eclipsed by what happened, this thread is all about a betting thread about the Oscars but looks what happened we and the whole world are talking about the slapping, all the blame should be on Will Smith for being irresponsible for his action, good that he is banned for 10 years.
This thread should be locked the discussion has become redundant


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: og kush420 on April 10, 2022, 09:07:43 PM
I saw a youtube speculating that the slap is just staged, because they say that no one is watching Oscars anymore, and after that slap, here's what happened.

 Oscars audience grew by 555,000 after Will Smith slapped Chris Rock. (https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/29/business/media/oscars-ratings-will-smith-chris-rock.html)

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The Oscars audience swelled by more than half a million people on Sunday shortly after Will Smith slapped Chris Rock, capping the awards show with a late-night surge.

At 10:27 p.m., Mr. Smith attacked Mr. Rock after the comedian delivered a joke onstage about Mr. Smith’s wife, Jada Pinkett Smith. Nearly 17.4 million viewers were watching in the minutes after the slap, up from 16.8 million shortly before it, according to Nielsen data released by ABC.

If the speculation is right, then congratulations to them as they did a great job on acting.
I second this - no-one can dare to say anything which is not in script. And no-one can dare to walk to the stage to do this act. The best one can do is walk out from the place. But the anchor was composed after being slapped, there was no expression of stress or disrespect on his face.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: Viscore on April 10, 2022, 09:17:47 PM
I saw a youtube speculating that the slap is just staged, because they say that no one is watching Oscars anymore, and after that slap, here's what happened.

 Oscars audience grew by 555,000 after Will Smith slapped Chris Rock. (https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/29/business/media/oscars-ratings-will-smith-chris-rock.html)

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The Oscars audience swelled by more than half a million people on Sunday shortly after Will Smith slapped Chris Rock, capping the awards show with a late-night surge.

At 10:27 p.m., Mr. Smith attacked Mr. Rock after the comedian delivered a joke onstage about Mr. Smith’s wife, Jada Pinkett Smith. Nearly 17.4 million viewers were watching in the minutes after the slap, up from 16.8 million shortly before it, according to Nielsen data released by ABC.

If the speculation is right, then congratulations to them as they did a great job on acting.
Maybe it makes sense as it became the most trending news right after what happened. Both have played their part well and have created a deep impact on the audience. But how about the sanctions that have made by the OSCARS committee? Are they all fake and scripted?  I guess the OSCARS will have to do it all alone.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: sovie on April 10, 2022, 10:31:24 PM

Why sorry? You didn't do anything bad bruh, it was will smith that acted sour. Self control is a must especially on this kind of place or event because it was Oscars, it's prestigious. It's okay to become aggressive but it must be done only on right places, like in the backstage where no camera is present and no crowd is watching.

It's not surprising if everyone is betting on will smith because the guy is a good actor but I can't believe that its only the first time where he won an award? the same thing happens with leonardo de caprio, despite of his good acting skills, he rarely won an award. What smith did in the Oscars is really shocking, no one expected that.
Valid point that should have been done at the back stage where there are no camera and no crowd is watching. But how would the incident get fame?
I believe that is to gain following and nothing else.
HAd that had happened at the backstage. No One would have learnt that it had happened.

I believe back stage could have cameras, it was an Oscar and anything would have been a news item. Even if the cameras didn't pick it back stage but it would have appeared somehow to the public as rumour maybe leaving the public to run a guess and doubt on it. Well it was in public , Smith went really below the belt for someone of his pedigree. He is lucky Chris is not filing a case against him.
Whether there's a camera or not on the backstage but he should'nt have done that in the first place.It is truly below the belt on such kind of behavior that he had shown on a prestigious event.
He should have controlled his temper even though that joke turns out to be that offensive for his part but its not really truly a behavior of a true professional.
There would be no problems if he had just let it pass away but well we do have different level of tolerance which we could not really stop on some point or scenario.

Nailed it. Be it on stage or off stage. Right is right and wrong is wrong. Be it done in front of everyone or be it done in private.  Also, as mentioned by other member, that his personal life was affected. We never know what a person is going through. Let’s forgive him


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: Naficopa on April 11, 2022, 12:09:15 PM

On a side note - that incident is selling and they are getting fame and ranking. Which is a success itself.
Chris Rock should be careful too. You are right it is hard to believe and hit by a friend but it is hard to believe the you are  mocked by a friend too

I feel sorry for those other winners they are totally eclipsed by what happened, this thread is all about a betting thread about the Oscars but looks what happened we and the whole world are talking about the slapping, all the blame should be on Will Smith for being irresponsible for his action, good that he is banned for 10 years.
This thread should be locked the discussion has become redundant

I have followed the other forum where people made their bets – and everyone made a bet on WS. And now they are talking about the staged incident.  The ban on him will be lifted soon that is for sure.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: smyslov on April 11, 2022, 12:45:24 PM

On a side note - that incident is selling and they are getting fame and ranking. Which is a success itself.
Chris Rock should be careful too. You are right it is hard to believe and hit by a friend but it is hard to believe the you are  mocked by a friend too

I feel sorry for those other winners they are totally eclipsed by what happened, this thread is all about a betting thread about the Oscars but looks what happened we and the whole world are talking about the slapping, all the blame should be on Will Smith for being irresponsible for his action, good that he is banned for 10 years.
This thread should be locked the discussion has become redundant

I have followed the other forum where people made their bets – and everyone made a bet on WS. And now they are talking about the staged incident.  The ban on him will be lifted soon that is for sure.
How did you know that it's not a staged because Will Smith is now losing everything all his incoming projects are canceled or he is replaced, there are reports that Chris Rock will file a suit he just contacted a law firm according to this Youtube video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vw3NZS5grM it's still in speculation but that will add up to Will Smith growing problems.
I definitely think he should sue this is to protect the comedy industry, that is badly harm by this slapping incident.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: yazher on April 11, 2022, 12:54:46 PM

Nailed it. Be it on stage or off stage. Right is right and wrong is wrong. Be it done in front of everyone or be it done in private.  Also, as mentioned by other member, that his personal life was affected. We never know what a person is going through. Let’s forgive him

I guess we won't  see him again in this kind of awarding ceremony since the comitte has already passed their judgement on him. That's just how you act when you see your wife's reaction when she got bullied, not everyone can restrain their anger when it comes to this situation. Like you said, we should forgive him and move on after all, we are all human being who are not perfect.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: YinShuiSiYuan on April 11, 2022, 01:03:42 PM
I saw a youtube speculating that the slap is just staged, because they say that no one is watching Oscars anymore, and after that slap, here's what happened.

 Oscars audience grew by 555,000 after Will Smith slapped Chris Rock. (https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/29/business/media/oscars-ratings-will-smith-chris-rock.html)

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The Oscars audience swelled by more than half a million people on Sunday shortly after Will Smith slapped Chris Rock, capping the awards show with a late-night surge.

At 10:27 p.m., Mr. Smith attacked Mr. Rock after the comedian delivered a joke onstage about Mr. Smith’s wife, Jada Pinkett Smith. Nearly 17.4 million viewers were watching in the minutes after the slap, up from 16.8 million shortly before it, according to Nielsen data released by ABC.

If the speculation is right, then congratulations to them as they did a great job on acting.

I agreed and as As mentioned above –Oscars were a dying event - no one was watching Oscars any more since there are so many other shows people are watching now. But see the lively conversation in the forum too. Congratulations to the masterminds.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: Theones on April 11, 2022, 05:55:26 PM

Nailed it. Be it on stage or off stage. Right is right and wrong is wrong. Be it done in front of everyone or be it done in private.  Also, as mentioned by other member, that his personal life was affected. We never know what a person is going through. Let’s forgive him

I guess we won't  see him again in this kind of awarding ceremony since the comitte has already passed their judgement on him. That's just how you act when you see your wife's reaction when she got bullied, not everyone can restrain their anger when it comes to this situation. Like you said, we should forgive him and move on after all, we are all human being who are not perfect.
No that is not correct - if that is staged they  will find a way out.
But I see a success and trending rating for Oscars. As the other member stated the dying event suddenly got a fame in trending in a second.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: Viscore on April 11, 2022, 07:32:46 PM

Nailed it. Be it on stage or off stage. Right is right and wrong is wrong. Be it done in front of everyone or be it done in private.  Also, as mentioned by other member, that his personal life was affected. We never know what a person is going through. Let’s forgive him

I guess we won't  see him again in this kind of awarding ceremony since the comitte has already passed their judgement on him. That's just how you act when you see your wife's reaction when she got bullied, not everyone can restrain their anger when it comes to this situation. Like you said, we should forgive him and move on after all, we are all human being who are not perfect.
This is already expected after Will Smith made a big scene at the OSCARS event, that made him banned in the next awarding ceremony. But considering his side, i guess people should not judge him all in negative way because somehow, Chris Rock has become very insensitive too that he was able to bully Will's wife without considering that she might be having a serious health issues. And here's Will Smith to the rescue, losing his patience, finally gave Chris the consequence of his own joke.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: YinShuiSiYuan on April 11, 2022, 07:50:48 PM

On a side note - that incident is selling and they are getting fame and ranking. Which is a success itself.
Chris Rock should be careful too. You are right it is hard to believe and hit by a friend but it is hard to believe the you are  mocked by a friend too

I feel sorry for those other winners they are totally eclipsed by what happened, this thread is all about a betting thread about the Oscars but looks what happened we and the whole world are talking about the slapping, all the blame should be on Will Smith for being irresponsible for his action, good that he is banned for 10 years.
This thread should be locked the discussion has become redundant

I have followed the other forum where people made their bets – and everyone made a bet on WS. And now they are talking about the staged incident.  The ban on him will be lifted soon that is for sure.
How did you know that it's not a staged because Will Smith is now losing everything all his incoming projects are canceled or he is replaced, there are reports that Chris Rock will file a suit he just contacted a law firm according to this Youtube video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vw3NZS5grM it's still in speculation but that will add up to Will Smith growing problems.
I definitely think he should sue this is to protect the comedy industry, that is badly harm by this slapping incident.

I have the same question – but it is answered above that next moment it got 7.3 billion views. What else a TV show would be need. VIEWS, TREND, RATING – this means they nailed it.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: mm2543363580 on April 11, 2022, 08:02:33 PM

Nailed it. Be it on stage or off stage. Right is right and wrong is wrong. Be it done in front of everyone or be it done in private.  Also, as mentioned by other member, that his personal life was affected. We never know what a person is going through. Let’s forgive him

I guess we won't  see him again in this kind of awarding ceremony since the comitte has already passed their judgement on him. That's just how you act when you see your wife's reaction when she got bullied, not everyone can restrain their anger when it comes to this situation. Like you said, we should forgive him and move on after all, we are all human being who are not perfect.
This is already expected after Will Smith made a big scene at the OSCARS event, that made him banned in the next awarding ceremony. But considering his side, i guess people should not judge him all in negative way because somehow, Chris Rock has become very insensitive too that he was able to bully Will's wife without considering that she might be having a serious health issues. And here's Will Smith to the rescue, losing his patience, finally gave Chris the consequence of his own joke.
We have not discussed anything a part from WillSmith and Chris Rock incident - does anyone know Dune has won the best film award too and that is one wonderful piece of art as well. A must watch if you get a chance and time~


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: Cryptock on April 11, 2022, 08:07:23 PM

Nailed it. Be it on stage or off stage. Right is right and wrong is wrong. Be it done in front of everyone or be it done in private.  Also, as mentioned by other member, that his personal life was affected. We never know what a person is going through. Let’s forgive him

I guess we won't  see him again in this kind of awarding ceremony since the comitte has already passed their judgement on him. That's just how you act when you see your wife's reaction when she got bullied, not everyone can restrain their anger when it comes to this situation. Like you said, we should forgive him and move on after all, we are all human being who are not perfect.

I have seen everyone talking about WS. There were other winners as well.
There are other Films which made their way to top – DUNE is the winner movies.
Has anyone watched that movie?


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: Mahanton on April 11, 2022, 08:59:35 PM


Wont be surprised if one day there would be some announcement that the said ban would be lift up or would really be decreased or lessen down but still no matter how things been settled where things had already been
done and those impressions of the public or fans overall would be totally on that negative side of things which i could not blame them off.Even though some do say that what if we are on his situation?
Pretty much sure it would really be still a hard decision to be made off but since you are on prestigious event then you dont really have the rights on slapping someone in front of the public or
internationally. Good thing that Rock didnt file any case or something or else that would make his problem even more worst.

They should uphold their decision or they will be a laughing stock, of all the Oscars this is the biggest hit all over the world, it overshadowed everything even the Russian - Ukraine war, it's the first it happen on an awarding night, this incident will haunt Will Smith for the rest of his life, I have total respect to Chris Rock for being so professional and not making it worse, he is still processing what happened because Will Smith is an old friend and getting hit by a friend in front of millions is really hard to process.
On a side note - that incident is selling and they are getting fame and ranking. Which is a success itself.
Chris Rock should be careful too. You are right it is hard to believe and hit by a friend but it is hard to believe the you are  mocked by a friend too
Yeah they become even more famous and really climb up on ranking and that just because of that incident and its true that Chris Rock might have realized that he crossed out on borders which he might be careful on nextime..
But speaking about being a profession and the people around who might be possibly be the subject then it would really be needing some understanding yet its part of his career too but i agree into some point
that there should really be some limitations because you would be slapped on the face if you do go overboard.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: Slow death on April 11, 2022, 09:13:03 PM

Nailed it. Be it on stage or off stage. Right is right and wrong is wrong. Be it done in front of everyone or be it done in private.  Also, as mentioned by other member, that his personal life was affected. We never know what a person is going through. Let’s forgive him

I guess we won't  see him again in this kind of awarding ceremony since the comitte has already passed their judgement on him. That's just how you act when you see your wife's reaction when she got bullied, not everyone can restrain their anger when it comes to this situation. Like you said, we should forgive him and move on after all, we are all human being who are not perfect.

honestly he exaggerated, the joke wasn't that serious for him to lose control like that, imagine if one day his wife made a joke about his mother? that means he can also beat his wife, the problem with violence is that today you do it to someone you hate and tomorrow you will be violent to someone you love, that's why he is being harshly repressed so that no one else will go to the oscars to promote violence, of course here we also have to see that most of the actors who appear in the oscar are not a good example of moral integrity, that's why they shouldn't be banning his movies, that's persecution is a big exaggeration


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: Desmong on April 11, 2022, 09:21:57 PM
I have seen everyone talking about WS. There were other winners as well.
There are other Films which made their way to top – DUNE is the winner movies.
Has anyone watched that movie?
Yes their are other winners too but Will Smith created a remarkable scene that was heard all over the world. Even people from remote regions that had never heard of him or watched him on films got the news which had made Will Smith and his victim famous. There are other winners too but they were outshined by the incident.
I don't watch film these days but I think I've seen the advert of the DUNE once.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: Fatunad on April 11, 2022, 09:26:42 PM

Nailed it. Be it on stage or off stage. Right is right and wrong is wrong. Be it done in front of everyone or be it done in private.  Also, as mentioned by other member, that his personal life was affected. We never know what a person is going through. Let’s forgive him

I guess we won't  see him again in this kind of awarding ceremony since the comitte has already passed their judgement on him. That's just how you act when you see your wife's reaction when she got bullied, not everyone can restrain their anger when it comes to this situation. Like you said, we should forgive him and move on after all, we are all human being who are not perfect.

honestly he exaggerated, the joke wasn't that serious for him to lose control like that, imagine if one day his wife made a joke about his mother? that means he can also beat his wife, the problem with violence is that today you do it to someone you hate and tomorrow you will be violent to someone you love, that's why he is being harshly repressed so that no one else will go to the oscars to promote violence, of course here we also have to see that most of the actors who appear in the oscar are not a good example of moral integrity, that's why they shouldn't be banning his movies, that's persecution is a big exaggeration
They are indeed a bit exagerrated on the decisions had been made but you know that they would go along on what the public is demanding or been talking on what would be the appropriate actions
to be made for such violence and with that problem arise it did really make out that never forget impression towards Smith which is really a very wrong kind of decision on becoming like that
on a certain event which if he do mind off about his reputation and public figure then he wont really be reacting that like.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: og kush420 on April 12, 2022, 03:18:43 PM
Decisions had been made but you know that they would go along on what the public is demanding or been talking on what would be the appropriate actions
to be made for such violence and with that problem arise it did really make out that never forget impression towards Smith which is really a very wrong kind of decision on becoming like that
on a certain event which if he do mind off about his reputation and public figure then he wont really be reacting that like.
I wish we see the other nomations as well ans discuss the songs and movies which have received the oscar as well.
Lets stop discussing WS for time being. There is so much discussion made on him and I am tired of this.
I want to know how many songs have you  listened which were nominated in Oscar.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: Fivestar4everMVP on April 12, 2022, 06:23:34 PM
I wish we see the other nomations as well ans discuss the songs and movies which have received the oscar as well.
Lets stop discussing WS for time being. There is so much discussion made on him and I am tired of this.
I want to know how many songs have you  listened which were nominated in Oscar.

LOL, people discuss what's trending, and what they find interesting to discuss about, so if you no longer find discussions centered around Will Smith interesting, then you can come up with something else to discuss, after all, the thread subject says
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Oscar Award 2022 betting thread
, and we all know that Will Smith isn't the only thing that happened in the 2022 Oscar's award, so feel free to bring other topics of discussion relating to the event on, and those who find that which you bring interesting will definitely join in.


Title: Re: Oscar Awards 2022 betting thread
Post by: Cryptock on April 12, 2022, 06:42:17 PM
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Oscar Award 2022 betting thread
, and we all know that Will Smith isn't the only thing that happened in the 2022 Oscar's award, so feel free to bring other topics of discussion relating to the event on, and those who find that which you bring interesting will definitely join in.

It seems that Will Smith's show at the Oscars alone garnered more attention than all the movies that entered the competition.
And all in all, I would probably not be surprised, if it were not for the fact that Will Smith is a very good actor, Hollywood is a place of many scandals, so I have no doubt that everything was directed according to the script.