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Title: bitcoin is unsettling, for those who don't have it
Post by: Ryu_Ar1 on January 05, 2022, 08:18:44 PM
I am a former employee who worked in a private bank in a remote area of ​​my country.
when some friends started introducing crypto, especially bitcoin, I was the one who was the most against it because apart from being against the work system I was doing, it also had an impact on the quality of banks in my area.
came to a turning point where I was disappointed with the bank system that took my finances for no apparent reason so that it made me switch to bitcoin and leave my job that I considered special before in 2020.
and an extraordinary thing happened, where as long as I was in cryptocurrency for this year it turned out that crypto, especially bitcoin, was not as bad as I thought at first, this is actually one of the good investments that I just made after investing previously regulated by the government and some real estate .

from here I started to think, the reason why people still hate bitcoin is because they don't exist and have never felt what it's like to be here so when other people say it's very good they won't believe it because they haven't felt it before.


Title: Re: bitcoin is unsettling, for those who don't have it
Post by: Welsh on January 06, 2022, 12:15:39 AM
Did you have any specific reason why you didn't like it before though? I find a lot of people who are against aren't really against Bitcoin, and what it stands for instead they're afraid of adopting a new system which in a lot of ways is quite a bit different to what they're used too. Plus, is probably more complex to learn, and the idea of being your own bank isn't exactly for everyone.

Quite a lot of Bitcoin users are here because they've been shafted or at least unhappy with our their bank has handled a certain situation. I'm not exactly here because of that, but it contributed to me believing in Bitcoin after having a few issues with banks. Honestly, the major issues I had with banks is they didn't like purchasing or withdrawing Bitcoin, which I felt was a breach of my freedom considering its suppose to be my money.


Title: Re: bitcoin is unsettling, for those who don't have it
Post by: Darker45 on January 06, 2022, 01:17:54 AM
But what if you were not disappointed with the bank system? What if the bank didn't take your finances for reasons you didn't understand? I am asking these questions because one of the main reasons why people are still with fiat is that they don't feel troubled with it. They didn't experience any significant inconvenience with it. Do we have to go through a bad experience first before taking a closer look at the alternative?

Anyway, the switch from bank to Bitcoin is understandable in your case, but why leave the job altogether? Bitcoin is not a source of income I suppose, or at least not a stable one.


Title: Re: bitcoin is unsettling, for those who don't have it
Post by: traderethereum on January 06, 2022, 01:36:13 AM
from here I started to think, the reason why people still hate bitcoin is because they don't exist and have never felt what it's like to be here so when other people say it's very good they won't believe it because they haven't felt it before.
Yes, that is why people hate and do not want to invest in bitcoin.
It is like what I suggested to a friend a few years ago.
He refused to follow me to invest in bitcoin because he thinks that bitcoin is not real, he can not touch and see the form of bitcoin but it existed from a long time ago.
You made a good decision to invest in bitcoin and leave your job so I hope that you will get something better than your last job and I am sure you will have a chance to have revenue from crypto.
You are now have your own choice so we hope that you be careful in investing in crypto.


Title: Re: bitcoin is unsettling, for those who don't have it
Post by: arcmetal on January 06, 2022, 02:05:26 AM
I am a former employee who worked in a private bank in a remote area of ​​my country.
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Thank you OP for your story.  It is always good to hear about what brought people to use bitcoin.

Although, I am sorry to read that you went through some adversity with your financial security before you came upon bitcoin.

It is too bad, like you say, that some negative experience with a financial institution is the only matter that may get people to notice bitcoin.  But it does confirm that bitcoin is working as intended, as designed.

And, welcome to this forum.  The useful information contained within these pages is the real stuff.



Title: Re: bitcoin is unsettling, for those who don't have it
Post by: GreatArkansas on January 06, 2022, 03:06:54 AM
Most of the people I know that started to own Bitcoin or started using Bitcoin are just because they thought some "easy money", I'm glad that you really appreciate the use of Bitcoin.
I have a question also that from you as a former banker and now a pro-Bitcoin supporter, what are some problems you encounter or most of the people encounter from using banks that Bitcoin can handle?


Title: Re: bitcoin is unsettling, for those who don't have it
Post by: bitzizzix on January 06, 2022, 04:16:19 AM
No clear reason why crypto or btcoin is hated? if the financial authorities hate it so much it may be true, because it is independent and also does not require intervention from the financial authorities.

Individuals won't hate it because those who don't know their bitcoins won't care because it's not in it and those who suffer losses will probably hate it.
and if they are profitable they will be happy and while those who have never invested or traded in crypto or bitcoin and hate it i don't care.


Title: Re: bitcoin is unsettling, for those who don't have it
Post by: Ryu_Ar1 on January 06, 2022, 05:38:13 AM
Did you have any specific reason why you didn't like it before though?
I am a person who has an idealistic nature by nature, and because of this trait when I am at a point where I have fiat and the bank is behind me, I feel very comfortable (at that time).
and then when bitcoin came around and it started to get crowded I felt this was something that wasn't right because my presumption was how it was possible for something that didn't exist to have value and I didn't accept that at first.

But what if you were not disappointed with the bank system? What if the bank didn't take your finances for reasons you didn't understand?
when this happens, maybe until now I am still struggling with a monotonous life with finances that will indeed be regulated by the government and banks, although indirectly but in my opinion it is the same as financial arrangements there.
but after I feel that things like this will gradually erode especially with the advancement of automatic technology, people will think again in choosing and managing finances, so when someone can open their mind I think the best choice is bitcoin when comparing it to fiat.

Most of the people I know that started to own Bitcoin or started using Bitcoin are just because they thought some "easy money", I'm glad that you really appreciate the use of Bitcoin.
I have a question also that from you as a former banker and now a pro-Bitcoin supporter, what are some problems you encounter or most of the people encounter from using banks that Bitcoin can handle?

although in perspective this is true but actually this is something wrong in my opinion :D
because what I believe until now there is nothing easy in investing and there is always a risk in it that's why when I say bitcoin is the easiest thing to get money I don't really agree with that because, while being here (1 year) it is not easy to understanding how the system is in bitcoin, let alone to analyze it, requires a continuous process in my opinion.
As for the problems that can be handled by bitcoin but cannot be handled by banks, the clearest thing so far that I have encountered is the ease of transactions because indeed with the current p2p system I feel very comfortable with it even though I don't know who the person is (anonymity) but there is no doubt even in the existing and clear transactions without any intermediaries in it so that we can arrange as we want


Title: Re: bitcoin is unsettling, for those who don't have it
Post by: pooya87 on January 06, 2022, 05:44:24 AM
because apart from being against the work system I was doing, it also had an impact on the quality of banks in my area.
To be clear bitcoin is not against the banking system. In fact it is jut an additional option for those who need the utilities that bitcoin provides as the only decentralized censorship resistant global currency. Otherwise the banking system will continue working as before whether it was corrupt or not.

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from here I started to think, the reason why people still hate bitcoin is because they don't exist and have never felt what it's like to be here so when other people say it's very good they won't believe it because they haven't felt it before.
In my experience most people who ignore bitcoin or go as far as hating it are two categories. First are those who are secretly accumulating bitcoin so they spread FUD to discourage others from buying this scarce currency and increase its price and second are those naive people who believed in the FUD they have been reading for years.


Title: Re: bitcoin is unsettling, for those who don't have it
Post by: Ryu_Ar1 on January 06, 2022, 05:57:26 AM
No clear reason why crypto or btcoin is hated?
actually reflecting from my experience in the field of bankers and people who initially rejected bitcoin actually there were clear reasons and at least it could be a strong enough reason why they hated bitcoin, because basically the system which is bitcoin has a different system from banks and can even be said to be the opposite. from the bank itself and this makes people who like fiat will indirectly feel a threat and of course they will not like this. because at first I was like that because I haven't felt the benefits and haven't been in the scope so no matter what it looks like in it, I will still call this something that cannot be used as an asset for investment.
this is what will be felt first for people who reject bitcoin. they are too comfortable with the old system that when the new system is born they don't want to deal with it.


He refused to follow me to invest in bitcoin because he thinks that bitcoin is not real, he can not touch and see the form of bitcoin but it existed from a long time ago.
not surprising indeed because I thought that way last year :D
But indeed, if you look at it now, we can't just leave bitcoin and like it or not we also have to get to know this sophisticated creation regardless of whether or not we want to invest later we can't just get rid of bitcoin at this time.
and maybe for people who still refuse with the reason bitcoin is a scam, they should open their eyes wide now


Title: Re: bitcoin is unsettling, for those who don't have it
Post by: hugeblack on January 06, 2022, 07:46:33 AM
People who are optimistic about Bitcoin talk about it as an investment. all they care about is the price, not the decentralization and the multiple options that they enjoy as an alternative to the current financial system.

Perhaps with the passage of time and the use of Bitcoin in international trade and with the stability of prices, you will find many people who hate this technology gradually turning to it.

Unfortunately, the media plays a big role in creating public opinion, and most people are looking for primitive information without going into details, and therefore you will find them content with news headlines to judge the quality of something or not.


Title: Re: bitcoin is unsettling, for those who don't have it
Post by: dataispower on January 06, 2022, 11:09:10 AM
I will start from leaving your job because of bitcoin, you won't have leave your job because of it because it is a digital currency that can operate at your convenient time, before you leave any thing think of the good and bad involve,

For you to be against bitcoin you have any reason of doing that but because you don't no about it, because you about bitcoin then very well won't have condemn it,  you would have make research of bitcoin and check if is good to follow with. You back now because you have seen people progressing over bitcoin, kudos for you coming back to digital currency


Title: Re: bitcoin is unsettling, for those who don't have it
Post by: Wexnident on January 06, 2022, 12:10:55 PM
from here I started to think, the reason why people still hate bitcoin is because they don't exist and have never felt what it's like to be here so when other people say it's very good they won't believe it because they haven't felt it before.
Isn't it because they just simply don't understand it? I mean, most people have egged Bitcoin as something to replace fiat and banks which is, in the perspective of someone who doesn't use crypto, is in general saying that it's going to destroy the system and replace it. Who would like that no? Bitcoin was never made to replace fiat or banks, it was just there as an additional option (and one that is very welcomed by a lot of people). It's never going to hurt/damage anyone on its own since it's just a medium.


Title: Re: bitcoin is unsettling, for those who don't have it
Post by: maju69 on January 06, 2022, 01:54:25 PM
I find a lot of people who are against aren't really against Bitcoin, and what it stands for instead they're afraid of adopting a new system which in a lot of ways is quite a bit different to what they're used too.

What do you mean, they are against bitcoin but they own it? If that's what you mean, it's like what I've been thinking lately. Could it be that they are afraid of bitcoin getting rid of something they control?
Apart from that I am very lucky to have known bitcoin, even now it is one of the assets I hold. And I agree bitcoin is unsettling, for those who don't own it


Title: Re: bitcoin is unsettling, for those who don't have it
Post by: amishmanish on January 06, 2022, 03:22:19 PM
Good newbie story with the typical "I love Bitcoin" theme. Answering with perfect multiple quotes. Account made 2 days ago and regaling the forum already with stories about "resigning from a private bank job for Bitcoin in 2020". Yeah I will pass. Going by the looks of it, it'll take sometime to setup these Alts. But go on, the forum by its very nature is open to second chances. Wish you no luck.



Title: Re: bitcoin is unsettling, for those who don't have it
Post by: Ryu_Ar1 on January 06, 2022, 04:13:33 PM
Good newbie story with the typical "I love Bitcoin" theme. Answering with perfect multiple quotes. Account made 2 days ago and regaling the forum already with stories about "resigning from a private bank job for Bitcoin in 2020". Yeah I will pass. Going by the looks of it, it'll take sometime to setup these Alts. But go on, the forum by its very nature is open to second chances. Wish you no luck.


Of course, this can't be done easily because when I was originally here I even made something in the wrong place because I'm not used to it because I found this forum as a result of accidentally seeing a video made by one of the YouTube accounts named steam time and maybe you can see my first post there if you are interested even though there are some warnings from other members there.

and yes, it took several previews to make a reply for me, fortunately in the Steam Tyme video it is also explained how to reply correctly.
when you say no luck I think you are overreacting my friend.

to reply to the video tutorial, it's clear here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NHfaViknzM


Title: Re: bitcoin is unsettling, for those who don't have it
Post by: ChiBitCTy on January 06, 2022, 05:20:09 PM
That’s the thing, people who haven’t studied bitcoin yet often just don’t have any idea what it is and how it works. I had so many friends , (often many fellow financial advisor buddies) who would tell me hoe stupid I was for investing and being interested in it. Now today, most of them own it and have transacted with it. I think this will only pick up over time as more people start to realize the truth, which is inevitable.


Title: Re: bitcoin is unsettling, for those who don't have it
Post by: Furious 7 on January 06, 2022, 05:21:45 PM
I think you did the right thing :D
And for now it's true when talking about bitcoin maybe in some areas it will still be referred to as strange and even tend to be seen as something negative because they never really feel the true benefits of bitcoin because they don't own it.
that's a pretty reasonable thing. it will be different when they have bitcoin and already feel the benefits. they will certainly change their view of bitcoin


Title: Re: bitcoin is unsettling, for those who don't have it
Post by: Welsh on January 06, 2022, 06:13:02 PM
What do you mean, they are against bitcoin but they own it? If that's what you mean, it's like what I've been thinking lately. Could it be that they are afraid of bitcoin getting rid of something they control?
Apart from that I am very lucky to have known bitcoin, even now it is one of the assets I hold. And I agree bitcoin is unsettling, for those who don't own it
As in they aren't against Bitcoin, and what it stands for i.e a lot of people I've come across think Bitcoin is bad because they don't know a lot about it or fear making the switch. Rather than, actually understanding what Bitcoin is, and therefore how to use it. Its a common reaction, and once they learn a little bit about Bitcoin then they usually somewhat come to terms with it.

For example, a lot of people don't understand "Bitcoin not being backed by anything" or "its just fake money", and a lot of people think Bitcoin can't be exchanged to this day. Its infuriating for us that are into Bitcoin, but that's what a lot of people think about Bitcoin on the outside. Thus, they don't even entertain the idea of learning about Bitcoin because its too complex for them, and therefore instead of actually having any real reason why they are against Bitcoin, its simply because they haven't bothered to put in the time, and effort it requires to learn it.


Title: Re: bitcoin is unsettling, for those who don't have it
Post by: fiulpro on January 06, 2022, 06:47:34 PM
I think at the end of the day it's just lack of education. The lack of education stirs up the fake rumors and make people believe that anything new, anything non traditional is going to be disappointing, most of the people also hate the fact that now the prices are too high to make an investment so therefore they try and invest in other Altcoins, then they end up following people like Elon Musk and sometimes end up getting scammed as well.

I don't think that anyone would be against bitcoins if they would own it, if someone is seeing constant growth and profits I don't think they would be against anything for that matters. It's all about non traditional forms of investments now, that's what's gonna get everyone out of the economic collapse, that's long due, because of the pandemic.


Title: Re: bitcoin is unsettling, for those who don't have it
Post by: dothebeats on January 06, 2022, 06:57:59 PM
I am curious to know whether bankers really hate crypto in general. Is it because it combats their belief, or they just don't know a thing about it? Sometimes, like what fiulpro mentioned, it's the lack of education and knowledge on the matter why people jump the gun almost immediately. They don't know much about what's being discussed and immediately judge things based on what they already know without even digging further.

Good for you that you have jumped ship, and learned lots of things that were foreign to you because of the previous environment that you work in. It's hard to learn things that were completely opposite of what you already know.


Title: Re: bitcoin is unsettling, for those who don't have it
Post by: Quidat on January 06, 2022, 08:31:51 PM
I think at the end of the day it's just lack of education. The lack of education stirs up the fake rumors and make people believe that anything new, anything non traditional is going to be disappointing, most of the people also hate the fact that now the prices are too high to make an investment so therefore they try and invest in other Altcoins, then they end up following people like Elon Musk and sometimes end up getting scammed as well.

I don't think that anyone would be against bitcoins if they would own it, if someone is seeing constant growth and profits I don't think they would be against anything for that matters. It's all about non traditional forms of investments now, that's what's gonna get everyone out of the economic collapse, that's long due, because of the pandemic.
This is right on where its a very common situation into those haters or someone do say up things even though it wasnt right is that those people who do really lack of proper
knowledge and research about bitcoin thats why they do make out those kind of conclusions which is really wrong because bitcoin isnt something like  that.
Sooner or later and on the time that they do gain knowledge and awareness then for sure they would taking back those words that they had told earlier.


Title: Re: bitcoin is unsettling, for those who don't have it
Post by: BIT-BENDER on January 06, 2022, 09:27:41 PM
Congratulations mate on finally adopting Bitcoin, but let me share my opinion with you, joining crypto-currency should not make you quit your job, as a starter you need that finance to give yourself a strong hold in cryptocurrency main big whales are still running their companies and has not quit their jobs, also if your bank has ever taken you finances you need to sue, and also don't drop your guard down here in crypto-currency many scammers exist here you have to be very sensitive than ever before, this is the hard Truth you should know.


Title: Re: bitcoin is unsettling, for those who don't have it
Post by: Slow death on January 06, 2022, 09:56:57 PM
sorry but this part where you talk about quitting a job is definitely not a good thing, with your job you would receive money that would allow you to continue investing in bitcoin and pay your expenses so quitting a job was a bad move. Bitcoin doesn't work miracles it's just a good long-term and decentralized investment, but it doesn't work miracles, no one should let it play because of bitcoin


Title: Re: bitcoin is unsettling, for those who don't have it
Post by: Finestream on January 06, 2022, 10:12:14 PM
sorry but this part where you talk about quitting a job is definitely not a good thing, with your job you would receive money that would allow you to continue investing in bitcoin and pay your expenses so quitting a job was a bad move. Bitcoin doesn't work miracles it's just a good long-term and decentralized investment, but it doesn't work miracles, no one should let it play because of bitcoin
If you are well paid from your old job, i also think leaving it is not really a good thing to do. But since you're already here, maybe you can start taking all the opportunities that will give you profits as there is no assurance of crypto to make profits consistently especially if the market is not very stable. You should be aware that there's always a risk in every investment but considering you're in bitcoin, although there is high risk but definitely high assurance too that you will make higher returns than any other type of investments.


Title: Re: bitcoin is unsettling, for those who don't have it
Post by: Kasabus on January 06, 2022, 10:41:44 PM
Congratulations mate on finally adopting Bitcoin, but let me share my opinion with you, joining crypto-currency should not make you quit your job, as a starter you need that finance to give yourself a strong hold in cryptocurrency main big whales are still running their companies and has not quit their jobs, also if your bank has ever taken you finances you need to sue, and also don't drop your guard down here in crypto-currency many scammers exist here you have to be very sensitive than ever before, this is the hard Truth you should know.
Others may see it that your decision to leave your job is not really worth it but once you will be acquainted well into crypto, and start gaining decent amount of profits, i guess you will say to yourself leaving your job for crypto is hard but the chances to earn huge income in crypto is unlimited. So its still self fulfilling that even if you can't make profits consistently, but when the time you can make profits, the amount is 10x from what you've earned from your old job. Just stay positive and good things will definitely come along.


Title: Re: bitcoin is unsettling, for those who don't have it
Post by: Botnake on January 06, 2022, 11:31:43 PM
sorry but this part where you talk about quitting a job is definitely not a good thing, with your job you would receive money that would allow you to continue investing in bitcoin and pay your expenses so quitting a job was a bad move. Bitcoin doesn't work miracles it's just a good long-term and decentralized investment, but it doesn't work miracles, no one should let it play because of bitcoin
Well, there's no room for regretting as you have made your fixed decision so just focus on achieving your new goal by making consistent knowledge in crypto and its crypto space. I know that one reason why you have to leave your old job is you also see the potentials in crypto and you certainly believe that you will do better in crypto than in banks. I think you are right. Just focus on the bright side as you have more good opportunities today to focus on crypto and make the best profits by simply giving what's best in you. Crypto is for risk takers and for those who have strong faith that crypto will open wider opportunities to make profits compared to fiat. 


Title: Re: bitcoin is unsettling, for those who don't have it
Post by: Sanitough on January 06, 2022, 11:52:25 PM
I think at the end of the day it's just lack of education. The lack of education stirs up the fake rumors and make people believe that anything new, anything non traditional is going to be disappointing, most of the people also hate the fact that now the prices are too high to make an investment so therefore they try and invest in other Altcoins, then they end up following people like Elon Musk and sometimes end up getting scammed as well.

I don't think that anyone would be against bitcoins if they would own it, if someone is seeing constant growth and profits I don't think they would be against anything for that matters. It's all about non traditional forms of investments now, that's what's gonna get everyone out of the economic collapse, that's long due, because of the pandemic.
This is right on where its a very common situation into those haters or someone do say up things even though it wasnt right is that those people who do really lack of proper
knowledge and research about bitcoin thats why they do make out those kind of conclusions which is really wrong because bitcoin isnt something like  that.
Sooner or later and on the time that they do gain knowledge and awareness then for sure they would taking back those words that they had told earlier.
Its always expected that those who come to hate bitcoin have no experience making profits from it because they don't own any bitcoin. Not because they are afraid to take risk, but more on they see bitcoin is a ponzi scheme because it gives profits that is definitely too good to be true compared to fiat. But of course only bitcoin owners can prove that this is is wrong, unless those bitcoin haters start to educate themselves about bitcoin.


Title: Re: bitcoin is unsettling, for those who don't have it
Post by: dunfida on January 06, 2022, 11:52:53 PM
sorry but this part where you talk about quitting a job is definitely not a good thing, with your job you would receive money that would allow you to continue investing in bitcoin and pay your expenses so quitting a job was a bad move. Bitcoin doesn't work miracles it's just a good long-term and decentralized investment, but it doesn't work miracles, no one should let it play because of bitcoin
Well, there's no room for regretting as you have made your fixed decision so just focus on achieving your new goal by making consistent knowledge in crypto and its crypto space. I know that one reason why you have to leave your old job is you also see the potentials in crypto and you certainly believe that you will do better in crypto than in banks. I think you are right. Just focus on the bright side as you have more good opportunities today to focus on crypto and make the best profits by simply giving what's best in you. Crypto is for risk takers and for those who have strong faith that crypto will open wider opportunities to make profits compared to fiat. 
A risky move to be done by somebody on which going for full time on crypto and having no job in real life is something that i couldnt able to bare unless if you do sustain  yourself on making profits

or having income then you could really deal with it which it is something not for everybody but it doesnt mean that it is impossible for us to attain it.

Deal with it according on what risk level you could able to put in since not all would really be having that kind of consideration.


Title: Re: bitcoin is unsettling, for those who don't have it
Post by: kaya11 on January 06, 2022, 11:57:58 PM
How about your job? Did you find another one that is not related to your past job and related to crypto? Maybe you could your skills before in the line of crypto currencies. It is nice to see somebody from the banking system turn to crypto, hope it will be easy for you and maybe teach the ones who hates bitcoin so that they would be like you and convert too. Share them about your past experience and maybe you would be a way to let them feel that bitcoin is not the way they thought it was.


Title: Re: bitcoin is unsettling, for those who don't have it
Post by: traderethereum on January 07, 2022, 04:06:36 AM
He refused to follow me to invest in bitcoin because he thinks that bitcoin is not real, he can not touch and see the form of bitcoin but it existed from a long time ago.
not surprising indeed because I thought that way last year :D
But indeed, if you look at it now, we can't just leave bitcoin and like it or not we also have to get to know this sophisticated creation regardless of whether or not we want to invest later we can't just get rid of bitcoin at this time.
and maybe for people who still refuse with the reason bitcoin is a scam, they should open their eyes wide now
Some of my friends still do not follow me in investing in bitcoin and I do not even think about them and do not give more info about bitcoin to them.
I decide that they do not want to know a new chance that can help them have a new source to make more money or are satisfied with their conditions now.
Besides that, I do not want to teach them who only want to fill their wants without thinking about others or sharing what they know.
It is better to have a few friends, but they are really best friends who will not just be with us in a happy moment, but also sad moments.


Title: Re: bitcoin is unsettling, for those who don't have it
Post by: Vaculin on January 07, 2022, 08:10:42 AM
He refused to follow me to invest in bitcoin because he thinks that bitcoin is not real, he can not touch and see the form of bitcoin but it existed from a long time ago.
not surprising indeed because I thought that way last year :D
But indeed, if you look at it now, we can't just leave bitcoin and like it or not we also have to get to know this sophisticated creation regardless of whether or not we want to invest later we can't just get rid of bitcoin at this time.
and maybe for people who still refuse with the reason bitcoin is a scam, they should open their eyes wide now
Some of my friends still do not follow me in investing in bitcoin and I do not even think about them and do not give more info about bitcoin to them.
I decide that they do not want to know a new chance that can help them have a new source to make more money or are satisfied with their conditions now.
Besides that, I do not want to teach them who only want to fill their wants without thinking about others or sharing what they know.
It is better to have a few friends, but they are really best friends who will not just be with us in a happy moment, but also sad moments.
I think you should just focus more on achieving your goal because if they will see a lot of progress happening in your life, believe me, they will be the one to ask you how you'd do it so they can also be like you. So its just a matter of time. They will finally understand bitcoin once they will start investing in it and just like anyone who had made a good amount of income, they will be attached to bitcoin because of its high value and high returns.


Title: Re: bitcoin is unsettling, for those who don't have it
Post by: terrorJR on January 07, 2022, 09:54:41 AM
I am curious to know whether bankers really hate crypto in general. Is it because it combats their belief, or they just don't know a thing about it? Sometimes, like what fiulpro mentioned, it's the lack of education and knowledge on the matter why people jump the gun almost immediately. They don't know much about what's being discussed and immediately judge things based on what they already know without even digging further.

Good for you that you have jumped ship, and learned lots of things that were foreign to you because of the previous environment that you work in. It's hard to learn things that were completely opposite of what you already know.
I personally am not sure about that because there are indeed some people who indeed they work in the area of banks and government but on the other hand they also adopt crypto.
it's definitely there, though not too much. because indeed again it is a choice whether they want to open their minds or not about this crypto.
there needs to be some kind of further introduction when they really want it but on average they definitely refuse about this


Title: Re: bitcoin is unsettling, for those who don't have it
Post by: syedakhlaque on January 07, 2022, 10:29:37 AM
There is no problem with smeone opinion because opinion can be changed with the passing of time. If today, some mind is not accepting bitcoin business, it is possible that his opinion change or he will be convinced by someone or through study that he should join this business and it will benefit him. So setting or unsetting is not an issue but human thought and opinion can be changed at any time.


Title: Re: bitcoin is unsettling, for those who don't have it
Post by: marilynmanson21 on January 07, 2022, 03:37:06 PM
I don't think everyone hates bitcoin, because they don't have it, but they have certain reasons, but the opponents of bitcoin are the government, not the common people, where people are looking for money to live in the future, and in bitcoin cs they get it, they don't have to have bitcoins but There are many cryptos that have good potential


Title: Re: bitcoin is unsettling, for those who don't have it
Post by: glendall on January 07, 2022, 03:47:59 PM
bitcoin doesn't have to be hated, it should. but people who hate bitcoin are people who have been exposed to fraud in transactions in the name of bitcoin (from my observations) but if they know the real benefits that bitcoin gives I think bitcoin is better than the bank system


Title: Re: bitcoin is unsettling, for those who don't have it
Post by: Coyster on January 07, 2022, 04:06:35 PM
from here I started to think, the reason why people still hate bitcoin is because they don't exist and have never felt what it's like to be here so when other people say it's very good they won't believe it because they haven't felt it before.
In my opinion, the major reason why a lot of people don't believe or trust in the Bitcoin network is cause of many of the erroneous information disseminated by the media about Bitcoin, it's no longer news that the government do not like the Bitcoin network so most of the information from the media about Bitcoin is usually negative, even when such info is more often than not wrong, thus individuals who aren't in the Bitcoin network are deceived by such are become hostile towards it.

Being your own bank is a great advantage for Bitcoin users, and since the government doesn't want people to have control over their funds, they find multiple ways to attack the network and make it look pretty bad to non-Bitcoiners, but the thing is once one has done his or her research about the network, they no longer believe false informations populated about the network and go on to trust and believe in Bitcoin.


Title: Re: bitcoin is unsettling, for those who don't have it
Post by: amishmanish on January 07, 2022, 04:08:42 PM
Good newbie story with the typical "I love Bitcoin" theme. Answering with perfect multiple quotes. Account made 2 days ago and regaling the forum already with stories about "resigning from a private bank job for Bitcoin in 2020". Yeah I will pass. Going by the looks of it, it'll take sometime to setup these Alts. But go on, the forum by its very nature is open to second chances. Wish you no luck.


Of course, this can't be done easily because when I was originally here I even made something in the wrong place because I'm not used to it because I found this forum as a result of accidentally seeing a video made by one of the YouTube accounts named steam time and maybe you can see my first post there if you are interested even though there are some warnings from other members there.

and yes, it took several previews to make a reply for me, fortunately in the Steam Tyme video it is also explained how to reply correctly.
when you say no luck I think you are overreacting my friend.

to reply to the video tutorial, it's clear here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NHfaViknzM
Believe me when I say that I want to believe you. The Steamtyme video checks out and that guy is an old member here. Congrats that you found a way to make a well formatted posts before starting to post here.

Don't mind me. I only wished you No Luck, in case you are an Alt trying to get away after some scammy behavior. Well, let me take my words back and welcome you. Alt or not, its upto everyone to paint their slate the way they want to. I am just used to seeing scams all over the cryptoverse, especially with people agreeing to others to seem like part of communities.

I hope we'll keep seeing thoughtful posts from you and I wish that 2022 makes you rich. We are entering a bear market so its anyways a good time to put your head down and start learning. Good Luck!


Title: Re: bitcoin is unsettling, for those who don't have it
Post by: izsara on January 07, 2022, 04:15:08 PM
bitcoin doesn't have to be hated, it should. but people who hate bitcoin are people who have been exposed to fraud in transactions in the name of bitcoin (from my observations) but if they know the real benefits that bitcoin gives I think bitcoin is better than the bank system
actually things like this are also not a strong reason, of course those who hate not all have been deceived there too.
we can take an example, for example, some prominent figures such as trump or warren buppet who indeed they have never been deceived by anything but indeed because they feel they have certain needs so they hate bitcoin


Title: Re: bitcoin is unsettling, for those who don't have it
Post by: pawanjain on January 07, 2022, 04:31:41 PM
You may be right to some extent. The reason why many people don't show interest in bitcoin is because they don't know much about it.
Bitcoin is more than a decentralized currency. People only realize it's true value when they read about it and get to know how, when and why it was created.
This is the reason why it has been growing so much all these years. More number of people are becoming aware of it and realizing it's potential.


Title: Re: bitcoin is unsettling, for those who don't have it
Post by: Ryu_Ar1 on January 07, 2022, 09:59:39 PM
Of course, this can't be done easily because when I was originally here I even made something in the wrong place because I'm not used to it because I found this forum as a result of accidentally seeing a video made by one of the YouTube accounts named steam time and maybe you can see my first post there if you are interested even though there are some warnings from other members there.

and yes, it took several previews to make a reply for me, fortunately in the Steam Tyme video it is also explained how to reply correctly.
when you say no luck I think you are overreacting my friend.

to reply to the video tutorial, it's clear here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NHfaViknzM
Believe me when I say that I want to believe you. The Steamtyme video checks out and that guy is an old member here. Congrats that you found a way to make a well formatted posts before starting to post here.

Don't mind me. I only wished you No Luck, in case you are an Alt trying to get away after some scammy behavior. Well, let me take my words back and welcome you. Alt or not, its upto everyone to paint their slate the way they want to. I am just used to seeing scams all over the cryptoverse, especially with people agreeing to others to seem like part of communities.

I hope we'll keep seeing thoughtful posts from you and I wish that 2022 makes you rich. We are entering a bear market so its anyways a good time to put your head down and start learning. Good Luck!
thank you friend but I should be briefed first about the vocabulary that really applies here because I'm still not used to the vocabulary in this forum.
for example when you say "scammy" maybe it's a kind of scam or scammers because it's still in the context and the vocabulary is almost the same. but for "alt" i still can't find the meaning of this vocabulary even i have to search it in some words that i can relate to but can't find any results.

talk about rich I'm in the process of collecting btc right now because now is the time to collect more btc :D


Title: Re: bitcoin is unsettling, for those who don't have it
Post by: Zilon on January 07, 2022, 10:10:06 PM
I call this the disease of the primitive age. Many still believe things are meant to be done the way the were thought while the were growing up. Many still believe to make  it in life you must undergo regorous and stressful task. Many still believe money must have a physical representation and all this has been the few reasons why adopting Bitcoin is somehow a big task for them. All we owe them is keeping spreading the dividend with time all will come to embrace the new technology


Title: Re: bitcoin is unsettling, for those who don't have it
Post by: suzanne5223 on January 07, 2022, 11:05:17 PM
against the work system
Every Cryptocurrency enthusiast has a story to tell because we're once against and don't believe that cryptocurrency can be this good because the government makes us believe everything that has to do with crypto is mainly illicit.

from here I started to think, the reason why people still hate bitcoin is because they don't exist and have never felt what it's like to be here so when other people say it's very good they won't believe it because they haven't felt it before.
It is understandable and one of the reputable Bitcoin enthusiast have once said that "it takes only the genius mind to understand what Bitcoin is"


Title: Re: bitcoin is unsettling, for those who don't have it
Post by: freedomgo on January 07, 2022, 11:46:37 PM
against the work system
Every Cryptocurrency enthusiast has a story to tell because we're once against and don't believe that cryptocurrency can be this good because the government makes us believe everything that has to do with crypto is mainly illicit.

from here I started to think, the reason why people still hate bitcoin is because they don't exist and have never felt what it's like to be here so when other people say it's very good they won't believe it because they haven't felt it before.
It is understandable and one of the reputable Bitcoin enthusiast have once said that "it takes only the genius mind to understand what Bitcoin is"
I think even in all aspects its always the case that you cannot learn to love something unless you have it already. So its very clear that those bitcoin haters don't have any bitcoin of their own so they cannot experience the way bitcoin owners felt. I think better leave them on their own and focus on our goal here which is to maximize our profits and start earning. Bitcoin is only unsettling for those who cannot afford to invest in it.


Title: Re: bitcoin is unsettling, for those who don't have it
Post by: suzanne5223 on January 08, 2022, 02:23:39 PM
against the work system
Every Cryptocurrency enthusiast has a story to tell because we're once against and don't believe that cryptocurrency can be this good because the government makes us believe everything that has to do with crypto is mainly illicit.

from here I started to think, the reason why people still hate bitcoin is because they don't exist and have never felt what it's like to be here so when other people say it's very good they won't believe it because they haven't felt it before.
It is understandable and one of the reputable Bitcoin enthusiast have once said that "it takes only the genius mind to understand what Bitcoin is"
I think even in all aspects its always the case that you cannot learn to love something unless you have it already. So its very clear that those bitcoin haters don't have any bitcoin of their own so they cannot experience the way bitcoin owners felt. I think better leave them on their own and focus on our goal here which is to maximize our profits and start earning. Bitcoin is only unsettling for those who cannot afford to invest in it.
When an innovative concept is introduced there will be some people who will be against it because they don't open the mind to welcome new things, learn about it before making their judgment about the innovative idea introduced just like what happen when the internet was first introduced but I come. However, it is not about having the thing before you learn how to love it but it was about being blind to the modern technology system.


Title: Re: bitcoin is unsettling, for those who don't have it
Post by: bekti3 on January 08, 2022, 06:16:56 PM

When an innovative concept is introduced there will be some people who will be against it because they don't open the mind to welcome new things, learn about it before making their judgment about the innovative idea introduced just like what happen when the internet was first introduced but I come. However, it is not about having the thing before you learn how to love it but it was about being blind to the modern technology system.
the point is an open mindset in the face of new innovations.
if indeed they do not want to be open to innovation and technological progress, then it is certain that as you said, everyone will refuse no matter how good the technology and everything in it is because they do not want to accept it.
on the other hand it is a different story when indeed our minds are open and at least willing to learn because actually learning about it is not wrong, it will be very good


Title: Re: bitcoin is unsettling, for those who don't have it
Post by: Newlifebtc on January 08, 2022, 06:43:29 PM
I call this the disease of the primitive age. Many still believe things are meant to be done the way the were thought while the were growing up. Many still believe to make  it in life you must undergo regorous and stressful task. Many still believe money must have a physical representation and all this has been the few reasons why adopting Bitcoin is somehow a big task for them. All we owe them is keeping spreading the dividend with time all will come to embrace the new technology
People understand some thing the way their brains can understand, so you will not blame them because of the level of their brains and the environment we are born matters alot to us but some people don't know and they will not understand exactly, making money is base on our plan, those once that welcome Bitcoin will tell you that their is money in bitcoin and people will tell you no money in bitcoin, it is some thing of choice is not primitive way is understanding of different kinds


Title: Re: bitcoin is unsettling, for those who don't have it
Post by: Ararbermas on January 08, 2022, 06:53:43 PM
I am a former employee who worked in a private bank in a remote area of ​​my country.
when some friends started introducing crypto, especially bitcoin, I was the one who was the most against it because apart from being against the work system I was doing, it also had an impact on the quality of banks in my area.
came to a turning point where I was disappointed with the bank system that took my finances for no apparent reason so that it made me switch to bitcoin and leave my job that I considered special before in 2020.
and an extraordinary thing happened, where as long as I was in cryptocurrency for this year it turned out that crypto, especially bitcoin, was not as bad as I thought at first, this is actually one of the good investments that I just made after investing previously regulated by the government and some real estate .

from here I started to think, the reason why people still hate bitcoin is because they don't exist and have never felt what it's like to be here so when other people say it's very good they won't believe it because they haven't felt it before.
people who don't have experience investing crypto are the one that spreading negativity around the internet that's why until now some of the newbies are wondering as well especially if they lose money in it because of doing mistakes.  "to see is to believe" perhaps that's what they're like. Lol without knowing most people who have knowledge when it comes investing bitcoin was very happy that they discovered it and they can always get good profits from it.  ;D


Title: Re: bitcoin is unsettling, for those who don't have it
Post by: Wawa2013 on January 08, 2022, 08:38:04 PM
I am a former employee who worked in a private bank in a remote area of ​​my country.
when some friends started introducing crypto, especially bitcoin, I was the one who was the most against it because apart from being against the work system I was doing, it also had an impact on the quality of banks in my area.
came to a turning point where I was disappointed with the bank system that took my finances for no apparent reason so that it made me switch to bitcoin and leave my job that I considered special before in 2020.
and an extraordinary thing happened, where as long as I was in cryptocurrency for this year it turned out that crypto, especially bitcoin, was not as bad as I thought at first, this is actually one of the good investments that I just made after investing previously regulated by the government and some real estate .

from here I started to think, the reason why people still hate bitcoin is because they don't exist and have never felt what it's like to be here so when other people say it's very good they won't believe it because they haven't felt it before.
people who don't have experience investing crypto are the one that spreading negativity around the internet that's why until now some of the newbies are wondering as well especially if they lose money in it because of doing mistakes.  "to see is to believe" perhaps that's what they're like. Lol without knowing most people who have knowledge when it comes investing bitcoin was very happy that they discovered it and they can always get good profits from it.  ;D

Indeed, to be able to feel the benefits of Bitcoin is to own it, so it is very natural that most people who think negatively about Bitcoin are people
who don't have Bitcoin, and they only hear explanations from other people. So my advice to people who have never invested in Bitcoin, they should
try to invest in Bitcoin, but of course before investing they must first learn about Bitcoin. Never judge something bad before we know it, because
who knows what we think is bad can provide great benefits for us. Actually people who think negatively about Bitcoin, it's only harming themselves.


Title: Re: bitcoin is unsettling, for those who don't have it
Post by: Yamifoud on January 08, 2022, 08:48:09 PM
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from here I started to think, the reason why people still hate bitcoin is because they don't exist and have never felt what it's like to be here so when other people say it's very good they won't believe it because they haven't felt it before.
It cannot be denied that still a lot of people were not able to understand Bitcoin, they are most likely misinformed and got it wrong. Their mind needs to be cleared in order to the reality that Bitcoin is not a scam and it hasn't the intention to scam people.
Well, we have nothing to prove to them that they are wrong and we don't need to urge them to understand, that should be their well to do it. And I was glad that you have change your mind and never neglected to start investing Bitcoin. And those people who keep saying negative towards Bitcoin will soon to regrets and blame themselves.


Title: Re: bitcoin is unsettling, for those who don't have it
Post by: DoublerHunter on January 08, 2022, 08:57:29 PM
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from here I started to think, the reason why people still hate bitcoin is because they don't exist and have never felt what it's like to be here so when other people say it's very good they won't believe it because they haven't felt it before.
It cannot be denied that still a lot of people were not able to understand Bitcoin, they are most likely misinformed and got it wrong. Their mind needs to be cleared in order to the reality that Bitcoin is not a scam and it hasn't the intention to scam people.
Well, we have nothing to prove to them that they are wrong and we don't need to urge them to understand, that should be their well to do it. And I was glad that you have change your mind and never neglected to start investing Bitcoin. And those people who keep saying negative towards Bitcoin will soon to regrets and blame themselves.
^ This was exactly what I think will happen and the reason I did not push myself to understand the true meaning of BTC, I let them discover themselves about BTC because I don't want that someday they will come back and blame me because they invested and now losing the value and they don't understand the meaning of long term investment. There is nothing you prove to them until such time they will regret seeing the price of BTC was quite high and they feel late jumping into it.


Title: Re: bitcoin is unsettling, for those who don't have it
Post by: Ever-young on January 08, 2022, 09:01:02 PM
I am a former employee who worked in a private bank in a remote area of ​​my country.
when some friends started introducing crypto, especially bitcoin, I was the one who was the most against it because apart from being against the work system I was doing, it also had an impact on the quality of banks in my area.
came to a turning point where I was disappointed with the bank system that took my finances for no apparent reason so that it made me switch to bitcoin and leave my job that I considered special before in 2020.
and an extraordinary thing happened, where as long as I was in cryptocurrency for this year it turned out that crypto, especially bitcoin, was not as bad as I thought at first, this is actually one of the good investments that I just made after investing previously regulated by the government and some real estate .

from here I started to think, the reason why people still hate bitcoin is because they don't exist and have never felt what it's like to be here so when other people say it's very good they won't believe it because they haven't felt it before.
Firstly I don't see any connections with your title and that of this statement,

According to your title the Bitcoin price is really depreciating, and some are seeing it as an opportunity, to come into the Bitcoin community why others sees it as a time to pull 📴, because they are afraid that the crypto space are crashing gradually, not knowing that it happens ones in a while.

For those who still don't believe in it, we hope and pray for them to embrace it soon, because they might leave to reject it sooner or later.


Title: Re: bitcoin is unsettling, for those who don't have it
Post by: Coyster on January 08, 2022, 09:15:18 PM
This is the reason why it has been growing so much all these years. More number of people are becoming aware of it and realizing it's potential.
I second that, I also think the benefit of being your own bank has been underrated by quite a lot of people in the past, but due to inflation and dictatorial policies by many governments, quite a lot of individuals and organizations as well are now harnessing the benefits of being your own bank in the Bitcoin network, and also using the network as a hedge to fiat Inflation and other whatnots, I expect the number of Bitcoin users to steadily continue to grow as people begin to discover its benefits till we get to mass adoption.


Title: Re: bitcoin is unsettling, for those who don't have it
Post by: stomachgrowls on January 08, 2022, 09:53:54 PM
This is the reason why it has been growing so much all these years. More number of people are becoming aware of it and realizing it's potential.
I second that, I also think the benefit of being your own bank has been underrated by quite a lot of people in the past, but due to inflation and dictatorial policies by many governments, quite a lot of individuals and organizations as well are now harnessing the benefits of being your own bank in the Bitcoin network, and also using the network as a hedge to fiat Inflation and other whatnots, I expect the number of Bitcoin users to steadily continue to grow as people begin to discover its benefits till we get to mass adoption.
People would make out some discrimination once they dont even have the slightest idea on whats it all about thats why they could say up those things even though it wasnt right but for those who

are aware on what it is will surely be laughing out since those people doesnt really have any idea and those criticisms might turn out to be a praise later on if they do just tend to look on the brighter side
or simply make out some research first before make out those bad comments.

You would really be saying wrong things even if you dont have much idea on what it is all about.


Title: Re: bitcoin is unsettling, for those who don't have it
Post by: stadus on January 08, 2022, 10:43:21 PM
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from here I started to think, the reason why people still hate bitcoin is because they don't exist and have never felt what it's like to be here so when other people say it's very good they won't believe it because they haven't felt it before.
It cannot be denied that still a lot of people were not able to understand Bitcoin, they are most likely misinformed and got it wrong. Their mind needs to be cleared in order to the reality that Bitcoin is not a scam and it hasn't the intention to scam people.
Well, we have nothing to prove to them that they are wrong and we don't need to urge them to understand, that should be their well to do it. And I was glad that you have change your mind and never neglected to start investing Bitcoin. And those people who keep saying negative towards Bitcoin will soon to regrets and blame themselves.
Well, as long as they remained to be misinformed and continue to see bitcoin in a very negative way, then they will continue to miss the chance in bitcoin. But i also hope that they will be enlighten soon and start to embrace bitcoin too like what you did because bitcoin aims to spread massive adoption as its ultimate goal, so how will it be possible if a lot of people are still blinded by the wrong information about bitcoin? Maybe time will really come that they will be interested in bitcoin once the rest of the folks are already making profits in bitcoin.


Title: Re: bitcoin is unsettling, for those who don't have it
Post by: AmoreJaz on January 08, 2022, 11:00:10 PM
This is the reason why it has been growing so much all these years. More number of people are becoming aware of it and realizing it's potential.
I second that, I also think the benefit of being your own bank has been underrated by quite a lot of people in the past, but due to inflation and dictatorial policies by many governments, quite a lot of individuals and organizations as well are now harnessing the benefits of being your own bank in the Bitcoin network, and also using the network as a hedge to fiat Inflation and other whatnots, I expect the number of Bitcoin users to steadily continue to grow as people begin to discover its benefits till we get to mass adoption.
People would make out some discrimination once they dont even have the slightest idea on whats it all about thats why they could say up those things even though it wasnt right but for those who

are aware on what it is will surely be laughing out since those people doesnt really have any idea and those criticisms might turn out to be a praise later on if they do just tend to look on the brighter side
or simply make out some research first before make out those bad comments.

You would really be saying wrong things even if you dont have much idea on what it is all about.

great to hear the story of the OP. this is only one testament coming from the traditional banking industry, that most of them are against in crypto or btc up until now because they have not experienced yet being in crypto. but more then likely, they will change their perspectives once they tasted what it's to be like when you involve yourself in crypto.
ignorance and lack of knowledge are usually the reason why people don't like a new technology. but try educating them and for sure, they will switch sides.
so yeah, i believe it is only a matter of time before other people who highly criticised btc or crypto to change their minds. but don't force them to change sides, it will be their own time to realise things here because that would be better.


Title: Re: bitcoin is unsettling, for those who don't have it
Post by: Gyfts on January 09, 2022, 01:26:16 AM
Did you have any specific reason why you didn't like it before though?
I am a person who has an idealistic nature by nature, and because of this trait when I am at a point where I have fiat and the bank is behind me, I feel very comfortable (at that time).
and then when bitcoin came around and it started to get crowded I felt this was something that wasn't right because my presumption was how it was possible for something that didn't exist to have value and I didn't accept that at first.

This is perfectly legitimate and realistically the biggest reason why crypto adoption is frowned upon. The common belief is that central banks support the legitimacy of a country's economy. After all, it's the central banks that back the value of the currency. Why would the average citizen have any reason to dispute them? Setting aside the clear reasons to not trust government, the simplest example would be going to a grocery store, paying with fiat, and accepting goods in return. Perfectly safe, correct? You're able to trade in intrinsically worthless paper for tangible goods. This creates a psychology, bonding you to fiat.

But, things turn sour when the value of the paper becomes lower, ie inflation. No longer does the paper allow for the same purchasing power. This is generally when people are awaken to the merits of crypto, and the psychology of the central bank's safety net is broken.


Title: Re: bitcoin is unsettling, for those who don't have it
Post by: pushups44 on January 09, 2022, 01:34:32 AM
I am a former employee who worked in a private bank in a remote area of ​​my country.
when some friends started introducing crypto, especially bitcoin, I was the one who was the most against it because apart from being against the work system I was doing, it also had an impact on the quality of banks in my area.
came to a turning point where I was disappointed with the bank system that took my finances for no apparent reason so that it made me switch to bitcoin and leave my job that I considered special before in 2020.
and an extraordinary thing happened, where as long as I was in cryptocurrency for this year it turned out that crypto, especially bitcoin, was not as bad as I thought at first, this is actually one of the good investments that I just made after investing previously regulated by the government and some real estate .

from here I started to think, the reason why people still hate bitcoin is because they don't exist and have never felt what it's like to be here so when other people say it's very good they won't believe it because they haven't felt it before.

I think there is also a growing "nocoiner" phenomenon: nocoiners are people who watch with anxiety and envy while others make massive gains in these investments, and selectively pick data such as massive corrections to confirm their bias regarding the riskiness of these assets. Rather than admit they are wrong, they double and triple down so that after years have gone by and many millionaires have been minted, they remain on the sidelines with a self-righteous air.


Title: Re: bitcoin is unsettling, for those who don't have it
Post by: Ryu_Ar1 on January 09, 2022, 10:03:12 AM
I am a person who has an idealistic nature by nature, and because of this trait when I am at a point where I have fiat and the bank is behind me, I feel very comfortable (at that time).
and then when bitcoin came around and it started to get crowded I felt this was something that wasn't right because my presumption was how it was possible for something that didn't exist to have value and I didn't accept that at first.

This is perfectly legitimate and realistically the biggest reason why crypto adoption is frowned upon. The common belief is that central banks support the legitimacy of a country's economy. After all, it's the central banks that back the value of the currency. Why would the average citizen have any reason to dispute them? Setting aside the clear reasons to not trust government, the simplest example would be going to a grocery store, paying with fiat, and accepting goods in return. Perfectly safe, correct? You're able to trade in intrinsically worthless paper for tangible goods. This creates a psychology, bonding you to fiat.

But, things turn sour when the value of the paper becomes lower, ie inflation. No longer does the paper allow for the same purchasing power. This is generally when people are awaken to the merits of crypto, and the psychology of the central bank's safety net is broken.
I agree with what you said and indeed indirectly it can indeed be used as a good reason.
on the other hand, it seems now that Fiat is indeed quite good when viewed normally but when you go deeper you can feel a clear difference that is indeed harming you little by little.
the reason most people don't respond to the loss is because indeed they only say it is a small loss even though if you look at the loss, which is said to be small, over time it will grow and balloon.


I think there is also a growing "nocoiner" phenomenon: nocoiners are people who watch with anxiety and envy while others make massive gains in these investments, and selectively pick data such as massive corrections to confirm their bias regarding the riskiness of these assets. Rather than admit they are wrong, they double and triple down so that after years have gone by and many millionaires have been minted, they remain on the sidelines with a self-righteous air.
I'm hearing this term for the first time and it's probably happened to me.
thank you for identifying and providing new insights.
and it's true because this kind of thing can't be denied because when they feel there is a loss instead of admitting that the system is lacking, they actually blame it on something else


Title: Re: bitcoin is unsettling, for those who don't have it
Post by: rodskee on January 09, 2022, 10:37:55 AM
Most of the people I know that started to own Bitcoin or started using Bitcoin are just because they thought some "easy money", I'm glad that you really appreciate the use of Bitcoin.
I am guilty of this mate because this is also how Bitcoin being introduced to me , some friends tells me that there are income when buying this but eventually i realized that there are lot more from having bitcoin and not just profiteering .
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I have a question also that from you as a former banker and now a pro-Bitcoin supporter, what are some problems you encounter or most of the people encounter from using banks that Bitcoin can handle?

I m also looking for the differentiation of the two career OP has now as I am not that deeply familiar about how banker moves .


Title: Re: bitcoin is unsettling, for those who don't have it
Post by: bekti3 on January 09, 2022, 04:24:17 PM
for people who don't have bitcoins it's not disturbing, but what I really deserve to mention is that they are jealous, and they want to take control but what so all of that will never happen, because bitcoin will not be regulated by any party and cannot be controlled by anyone. anyone, maybe for that reason many people say they are restless because they don't have bitcoins..
Maybe this is the right word :D They are jealous to see the development of bitcoin which from year to year always has a significant increase and unfortunately they did not see that opportunity in the previous few years so that makes them at least annoyed with this.
I think they actually care enough but are quite embarrassed to admit that this is one of the greatest evolutions of our time. so they make some kind of excuse like a scam, it doesn't make sense even it's too high to adopt it ;D


Title: Re: bitcoin is unsettling, for those who don't have it
Post by: ven7net on January 09, 2022, 04:51:00 PM
I am a former employee who worked in a private bank in a remote area of ​​my country.
when some friends started introducing crypto, especially bitcoin, I was the one who was the most against it because apart from being against the work system I was doing, it also had an impact on the quality of banks in my area.
came to a turning point where I was disappointed with the bank system that took my finances for no apparent reason so that it made me switch to bitcoin and leave my job that I considered special before in 2020.
and an extraordinary thing happened, where as long as I was in cryptocurrency for this year it turned out that crypto, especially bitcoin, was not as bad as I thought at first, this is actually one of the good investments that I just made after investing previously regulated by the government and some real estate .

from here I started to think, the reason why people still hate bitcoin is because they don't exist and have never felt what it's like to be here so when other people say it's very good they won't believe it because they haven't felt it before.

I slightly disagree with you about the fact that Bitcoin is hated by those who do not have it. I am more inclined to believe that all these negative statements about BTC are nothing more than manipulation. Think for yourself, who was stopping whom from buying BTC even when it costs $ 0.10 or $ 1 or $ 1000? Nobody bothered, just those who did not buy or did not believe in BTC, or he was not up to Bitcoin. Now, when the price of BTC reached almost $ 70,000 for 1 BTC, what if everyone who does not have BTC woke up and began to hate him? I think it's much more complicated. Probably all this is due to the fact that BTC began to interfere with bankers and they, in order to neutralize BTC and create a similar mood in society. But no matter how it was, if you didn’t have time, or you couldn’t always be able to, you only need to blame yourself.


Title: Re: bitcoin is unsettling, for those who don't have it
Post by: ChrisPop on January 09, 2022, 06:32:38 PM
From a psychological perspective we don't like change. That's what our ancient brain tells us, but we need change to evolve. BTC is a major change in the world's financial system thus the transition won't happen in a glimpse. With time more and people will try investing and using this cryptocurrency. If they see/realise for themselves that it is a good asset to store their wealth and that the technical side is actually not that hard, they will gladly adopt it. That's why we're seeing a linear growth of Bitcoin if we look on the higher timeframes.


Title: Re: bitcoin is unsettling, for those who don't have it
Post by: suzanne5223 on January 09, 2022, 09:45:05 PM
When an innovative concept is introduced there will be some people who will be against it because they don't open the mind to welcome new things, learn about it before making their judgment about the innovative idea introduced just like what happen when the internet was first introduced but I come. However, it is not about having the thing before you learn how to love it but it was about being blind to the modern technology system.
the point is an open mindset in the face of new innovations.
if indeed they do not want to be open to innovation and technological progress, then it is certain that as you said, everyone will refuse no matter how good the technology and everything in it is because they do not want to accept it.
In another situation, we have some people who accept the fact the innovation of cryptocurrency is the future but still choose not to join the system because the declaration will influence a lot of people who invested in their company or bankrupt.

on the other hand it is a different story when indeed our minds are open and at least willing to learn because actually learning about it is not wrong, it will be very good
There's some situation where the story is somehow the same when some people open their minds to learn about cryptocurrency because they are filled with wrong information which makes them lose their first crypto investment.


Title: Re: bitcoin is unsettling, for those who don't have it
Post by: bekti3 on January 10, 2022, 07:31:07 PM
the point is an open mindset in the face of new innovations.
if indeed they do not want to be open to innovation and technological progress, then it is certain that as you said, everyone will refuse no matter how good the technology and everything in it is because they do not want to accept it.
In another situation, we have some people who accept the fact the innovation of cryptocurrency is the future but still choose not to join the system because the declaration will influence a lot of people who invested in their company or bankrupt.

on the other hand it is a different story when indeed our minds are open and at least willing to learn because actually learning about it is not wrong, it will be very good
There's some situation where the story is somehow the same when some people open their minds to learn about cryptocurrency because they are filled with wrong information which makes them lose their first crypto investment.
things like this go back to the regulations that are applied because even though they realize this is a good thing sometimes we also can't go against existing regulations and there can be impacts when adopting here so that they are afraid before going to war.

for those who are in the wrong information, IMO most beginners only see from the point of view of the benefits because most of the people in my area who adopt crypto are those who feel provoked to want to follow successful people here so that they forget their lessons and end up falling into wrong thing


Title: Re: bitcoin is unsettling, for those who don't have it
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on January 17, 2022, 02:32:57 PM
Seeing this from the point of view that it is increasingly difficult for people to acquire BTC this can become something disturbing for many, in my case I have never had 1BTC, I have only bought fractions of BTC, example 4mBTC, 1mBTC, and this for me It represents a lot and is something representative for me, however one always wants to have more and be able to reach at least 1BTC, the advantage of all this is that BTC is not yet at $ 100k, I am sure that when it reaches the mark it will be another story, Meanwhile, although it is very difficult, the best thing is to try to get to BTC little by little and without stress.


Title: Re: bitcoin is unsettling, for those who don't have it
Post by: Newlifebtc on January 17, 2022, 04:19:05 PM
I think that you have a point that people do not believe in bitcoin, on its purpose and what it can do, because they do not have the understanding nor experience of dealing and holding the coin. On top of that, many misconceptions have also circled around crypto, some thought that it exists to hurt the system, a new form of scam, and many more ideologies that do not hit the main concept of crypto. Hence, it  was perceived to be unsettling.
I know that people does not believe in bitcoin that time Bitcoin come to the world but the purpose of people have make Bitcoin to be popularized to the nation, i think many people is going to advertise Bitcoin Everytime and Bitcoin is now the order of the day


Title: Re: bitcoin is unsettling, for those who don't have it
Post by: virasog on January 18, 2022, 06:22:19 AM
for people who don't have bitcoins it's not disturbing, but what I really deserve to mention is that they are jealous, and they want to take control but what so all of that will never happen, because bitcoin will not be regulated by any party and cannot be controlled by anyone. anyone, maybe for that reason many people say they are restless because they don't have bitcoins..

If one person has more bitcoins and other has less, there is no need to get jealous. This is like one person has more bank balance than other person. The one with more crypto may have worked more hard to earn those bitcoins.

Now for the 2nd part, sometimes it can be disturbing if you own bitcoins and the price of bitcoins fall below your buying price. However, you need to control your emotions in such circumstances.




Title: Re: bitcoin is unsettling, for those who don't have it
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on January 23, 2022, 07:24:07 PM
for people who don't have bitcoins it's not disturbing, but what I really deserve to mention is that they are jealous, and they want to take control but what so all of that will never happen, because bitcoin will not be regulated by any party and cannot be controlled by anyone. anyone, maybe for that reason many people say they are restless because they don't have bitcoins..

If one person has more bitcoins and other has less, there is no need to get jealous. This is like one person has more bank balance than other person. The one with more crypto may have worked more hard to earn those bitcoins.

Now for the 2nd part, sometimes it can be disturbing if you own bitcoins and the price of bitcoins fall below your buying price. However, you need to control your emotions in such circumstances.




Well it couldn't have been said better, really BTC from a point of view for those who don't have it, it can be a source of pressure to have more, at least reach 1BTC, more if they are handled under the wake that someday 0.001BTC It will be enough to live very well, if we start from there it is an acceptable stress or pressure, it is very likely to happen, and for those who have BTC it is not a problem, because it is known that BTC has always never let down, and this is something that will be fulfilled.


Title: Re: bitcoin is unsettling, for those who don't have it
Post by: Ziskinberg on January 23, 2022, 09:24:32 PM
Seeing this from the point of view that it is increasingly difficult for people to acquire BTC this can become something disturbing for many, in my case I have never had 1BTC, I have only bought fractions of BTC, example 4mBTC, 1mBTC, and this for me It represents a lot and is something representative for me, however one always wants to have more and be able to reach at least 1BTC, the advantage of all this is that BTC is not yet at $ 100k, I am sure that when it reaches the mark it will be another story, Meanwhile, although it is very difficult, the best thing is to try to get to BTC little by little and without stress.

I believe this is not a contest and we are not urged to do that as it just depended on our capability. I only have fractions of Bitcoin and I was still happy having these numbers for at least I don't miss the chance. Maybe if I have more money, more resources, I could even buy more.
Initially, I was just holding it for the short term but now, I was aiming for the long term as I believe the future of this project. It is to found risky but it was worth it.


Title: Re: bitcoin is unsettling, for those who don't have it
Post by: Shasha80 on January 23, 2022, 09:38:03 PM
Seeing this from the point of view that it is increasingly difficult for people to acquire BTC this can become something disturbing for many, in my case I have never had 1BTC, I have only bought fractions of BTC, example 4mBTC, 1mBTC, and this for me It represents a lot and is something representative for me, however one always wants to have more and be able to reach at least 1BTC, the advantage of all this is that BTC is not yet at $ 100k, I am sure that when it reaches the mark it will be another story, Meanwhile, although it is very difficult, the best thing is to try to get to BTC little by little and without stress.

I believe this is not a contest and we are not urged to do that as it just depended on our capability. I only have fractions of Bitcoin and I was still happy having these numbers for at least I don't miss the chance. Maybe if I have more money, more resources, I could even buy more.
Initially, I was just holding it for the short term but now, I was aiming for the long term as I believe the future of this project. It is to found risky but it was worth it.

We don't need to compete with other people to be able to have more Bitcoin, because investing in Bitcoin is not a competition. We buy Bitcoins
must be in accordance with our financial capabilities, do not be influenced by other people when deciding to invest in Bitcoin. Because everyone
has different financial capabilities and must also have different targets. We don't need to force to have 1 BTC if our finances can't afford it,
be grateful for how many Bitcoins we have. At least we are still lucky to have a small amount of Bitcoin compared to the majority of people who
still don't have Bitcoin, even I find many people around me do not understand what Bitcoin is. Investing in Bitcoin does have to be patient,
because the success of investing in Bitcoin cannot be obtained instantly, so just enjoy the process.


Title: Re: bitcoin is unsettling, for those who don't have it
Post by: nicolerichardson on May 23, 2022, 05:52:03 AM
It’s everyone’s own decision to have bitcoins or not. But those who have them should not always be bragging about their bitcoins because not everyone is interested in them. On the other hand, those who don’t have bitcoins don’t need to feel bad or get jealous because it’s not the only thing you have to invest your money in. Put your money in what you understand and not in something that you don’t.


Title: Re: bitcoin is unsettling, for those who don't have it
Post by: Fesatmas on May 23, 2022, 02:26:44 PM
Seeing this from the point of view that it is increasingly difficult for people to acquire BTC this can become something disturbing for many, in my case I have never had 1BTC, I have only bought fractions of BTC, example 4mBTC, 1mBTC, and this for me It represents a lot and is something representative for me, however one always wants to have more and be able to reach at least 1BTC, the advantage of all this is that BTC is not yet at $ 100k, I am sure that when it reaches the mark it will be another story, Meanwhile, although it is very difficult, the best thing is to try to get to BTC little by little and without stress.

This is not an event for us to compete to collect bitcoins, but it can be our motivation to be able to continue investing according to our financial capabilities. Because if we force ourselves to buy bitcoin, that's something that is not good either because of course we have other needs that must be prioritized in everyday life. But I'm quite happy when I have a little bit of bitcoin but it doesn't have to interfere with my needs.