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January 07, 2022, 09:59:39 PM
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Of course, this can't be done easily because when I was originally here I even made something in the wrong place because I'm not used to it because I found this forum as a result of accidentally seeing a video made by one of the YouTube accounts named steam time and maybe you can see my first post there if you are interested even though there are some warnings from other members there.

and yes, it took several previews to make a reply for me, fortunately in the Steam Tyme video it is also explained how to reply correctly.
when you say no luck I think you are overreacting my friend.

to reply to the video tutorial, it's clear here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NHfaViknzM
Believe me when I say that I want to believe you. The Steamtyme video checks out and that guy is an old member here. Congrats that you found a way to make a well formatted posts before starting to post here.

Don't mind me. I only wished you No Luck, in case you are an Alt trying to get away after some scammy behavior. Well, let me take my words back and welcome you. Alt or not, its upto everyone to paint their slate the way they want to. I am just used to seeing scams all over the cryptoverse, especially with people agreeing to others to seem like part of communities.

I hope we'll keep seeing thoughtful posts from you and I wish that 2022 makes you rich. We are entering a bear market so its anyways a good time to put your head down and start learning. Good Luck!
thank you friend but I should be briefed first about the vocabulary that really applies here because I'm still not used to the vocabulary in this forum.
for example when you say "scammy" maybe it's a kind of scam or scammers because it's still in the context and the vocabulary is almost the same. but for "alt" i still can't find the meaning of this vocabulary even i have to search it in some words that i can relate to but can't find any results.

talk about rich I'm in the process of collecting btc right now because now is the time to collect more btc Cheesy

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January 07, 2022, 10:10:06 PM
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I call this the disease of the primitive age. Many still believe things are meant to be done the way the were thought while the were growing up. Many still believe to make  it in life you must undergo regorous and stressful task. Many still believe money must have a physical representation and all this has been the few reasons why adopting Bitcoin is somehow a big task for them. All we owe them is keeping spreading the dividend with time all will come to embrace the new technology
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January 07, 2022, 11:05:17 PM
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against the work system
Every Cryptocurrency enthusiast has a story to tell because we're once against and don't believe that cryptocurrency can be this good because the government makes us believe everything that has to do with crypto is mainly illicit.

from here I started to think, the reason why people still hate bitcoin is because they don't exist and have never felt what it's like to be here so when other people say it's very good they won't believe it because they haven't felt it before.
It is understandable and one of the reputable Bitcoin enthusiast have once said that "it takes only the genius mind to understand what Bitcoin is"

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January 07, 2022, 11:46:37 PM
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against the work system
Every Cryptocurrency enthusiast has a story to tell because we're once against and don't believe that cryptocurrency can be this good because the government makes us believe everything that has to do with crypto is mainly illicit.

from here I started to think, the reason why people still hate bitcoin is because they don't exist and have never felt what it's like to be here so when other people say it's very good they won't believe it because they haven't felt it before.
It is understandable and one of the reputable Bitcoin enthusiast have once said that "it takes only the genius mind to understand what Bitcoin is"
I think even in all aspects its always the case that you cannot learn to love something unless you have it already. So its very clear that those bitcoin haters don't have any bitcoin of their own so they cannot experience the way bitcoin owners felt. I think better leave them on their own and focus on our goal here which is to maximize our profits and start earning. Bitcoin is only unsettling for those who cannot afford to invest in it.

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January 08, 2022, 02:23:39 PM
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against the work system
Every Cryptocurrency enthusiast has a story to tell because we're once against and don't believe that cryptocurrency can be this good because the government makes us believe everything that has to do with crypto is mainly illicit.

from here I started to think, the reason why people still hate bitcoin is because they don't exist and have never felt what it's like to be here so when other people say it's very good they won't believe it because they haven't felt it before.
It is understandable and one of the reputable Bitcoin enthusiast have once said that "it takes only the genius mind to understand what Bitcoin is"
I think even in all aspects its always the case that you cannot learn to love something unless you have it already. So its very clear that those bitcoin haters don't have any bitcoin of their own so they cannot experience the way bitcoin owners felt. I think better leave them on their own and focus on our goal here which is to maximize our profits and start earning. Bitcoin is only unsettling for those who cannot afford to invest in it.
When an innovative concept is introduced there will be some people who will be against it because they don't open the mind to welcome new things, learn about it before making their judgment about the innovative idea introduced just like what happen when the internet was first introduced but I come. However, it is not about having the thing before you learn how to love it but it was about being blind to the modern technology system.

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January 08, 2022, 06:16:56 PM
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When an innovative concept is introduced there will be some people who will be against it because they don't open the mind to welcome new things, learn about it before making their judgment about the innovative idea introduced just like what happen when the internet was first introduced but I come. However, it is not about having the thing before you learn how to love it but it was about being blind to the modern technology system.
the point is an open mindset in the face of new innovations.
if indeed they do not want to be open to innovation and technological progress, then it is certain that as you said, everyone will refuse no matter how good the technology and everything in it is because they do not want to accept it.
on the other hand it is a different story when indeed our minds are open and at least willing to learn because actually learning about it is not wrong, it will be very good

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January 08, 2022, 06:43:29 PM
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I call this the disease of the primitive age. Many still believe things are meant to be done the way the were thought while the were growing up. Many still believe to make  it in life you must undergo regorous and stressful task. Many still believe money must have a physical representation and all this has been the few reasons why adopting Bitcoin is somehow a big task for them. All we owe them is keeping spreading the dividend with time all will come to embrace the new technology
People understand some thing the way their brains can understand, so you will not blame them because of the level of their brains and the environment we are born matters alot to us but some people don't know and they will not understand exactly, making money is base on our plan, those once that welcome Bitcoin will tell you that their is money in bitcoin and people will tell you no money in bitcoin, it is some thing of choice is not primitive way is understanding of different kinds

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January 08, 2022, 06:53:43 PM
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I am a former employee who worked in a private bank in a remote area of ​​my country.
when some friends started introducing crypto, especially bitcoin, I was the one who was the most against it because apart from being against the work system I was doing, it also had an impact on the quality of banks in my area.
came to a turning point where I was disappointed with the bank system that took my finances for no apparent reason so that it made me switch to bitcoin and leave my job that I considered special before in 2020.
and an extraordinary thing happened, where as long as I was in cryptocurrency for this year it turned out that crypto, especially bitcoin, was not as bad as I thought at first, this is actually one of the good investments that I just made after investing previously regulated by the government and some real estate .

from here I started to think, the reason why people still hate bitcoin is because they don't exist and have never felt what it's like to be here so when other people say it's very good they won't believe it because they haven't felt it before.
people who don't have experience investing crypto are the one that spreading negativity around the internet that's why until now some of the newbies are wondering as well especially if they lose money in it because of doing mistakes.  "to see is to believe" perhaps that's what they're like. Lol without knowing most people who have knowledge when it comes investing bitcoin was very happy that they discovered it and they can always get good profits from it.  Grin
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January 08, 2022, 08:38:04 PM
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I am a former employee who worked in a private bank in a remote area of ​​my country.
when some friends started introducing crypto, especially bitcoin, I was the one who was the most against it because apart from being against the work system I was doing, it also had an impact on the quality of banks in my area.
came to a turning point where I was disappointed with the bank system that took my finances for no apparent reason so that it made me switch to bitcoin and leave my job that I considered special before in 2020.
and an extraordinary thing happened, where as long as I was in cryptocurrency for this year it turned out that crypto, especially bitcoin, was not as bad as I thought at first, this is actually one of the good investments that I just made after investing previously regulated by the government and some real estate .

from here I started to think, the reason why people still hate bitcoin is because they don't exist and have never felt what it's like to be here so when other people say it's very good they won't believe it because they haven't felt it before.
people who don't have experience investing crypto are the one that spreading negativity around the internet that's why until now some of the newbies are wondering as well especially if they lose money in it because of doing mistakes.  "to see is to believe" perhaps that's what they're like. Lol without knowing most people who have knowledge when it comes investing bitcoin was very happy that they discovered it and they can always get good profits from it.  Grin

Indeed, to be able to feel the benefits of Bitcoin is to own it, so it is very natural that most people who think negatively about Bitcoin are people
who don't have Bitcoin, and they only hear explanations from other people. So my advice to people who have never invested in Bitcoin, they should
try to invest in Bitcoin, but of course before investing they must first learn about Bitcoin. Never judge something bad before we know it, because
who knows what we think is bad can provide great benefits for us. Actually people who think negatively about Bitcoin, it's only harming themselves.

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from here I started to think, the reason why people still hate bitcoin is because they don't exist and have never felt what it's like to be here so when other people say it's very good they won't believe it because they haven't felt it before.
It cannot be denied that still a lot of people were not able to understand Bitcoin, they are most likely misinformed and got it wrong. Their mind needs to be cleared in order to the reality that Bitcoin is not a scam and it hasn't the intention to scam people.
Well, we have nothing to prove to them that they are wrong and we don't need to urge them to understand, that should be their well to do it. And I was glad that you have change your mind and never neglected to start investing Bitcoin. And those people who keep saying negative towards Bitcoin will soon to regrets and blame themselves.



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January 08, 2022, 08:57:29 PM
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from here I started to think, the reason why people still hate bitcoin is because they don't exist and have never felt what it's like to be here so when other people say it's very good they won't believe it because they haven't felt it before.
It cannot be denied that still a lot of people were not able to understand Bitcoin, they are most likely misinformed and got it wrong. Their mind needs to be cleared in order to the reality that Bitcoin is not a scam and it hasn't the intention to scam people.
Well, we have nothing to prove to them that they are wrong and we don't need to urge them to understand, that should be their well to do it. And I was glad that you have change your mind and never neglected to start investing Bitcoin. And those people who keep saying negative towards Bitcoin will soon to regrets and blame themselves.
^ This was exactly what I think will happen and the reason I did not push myself to understand the true meaning of BTC, I let them discover themselves about BTC because I don't want that someday they will come back and blame me because they invested and now losing the value and they don't understand the meaning of long term investment. There is nothing you prove to them until such time they will regret seeing the price of BTC was quite high and they feel late jumping into it.
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I am a former employee who worked in a private bank in a remote area of ​​my country.
when some friends started introducing crypto, especially bitcoin, I was the one who was the most against it because apart from being against the work system I was doing, it also had an impact on the quality of banks in my area.
came to a turning point where I was disappointed with the bank system that took my finances for no apparent reason so that it made me switch to bitcoin and leave my job that I considered special before in 2020.
and an extraordinary thing happened, where as long as I was in cryptocurrency for this year it turned out that crypto, especially bitcoin, was not as bad as I thought at first, this is actually one of the good investments that I just made after investing previously regulated by the government and some real estate .

from here I started to think, the reason why people still hate bitcoin is because they don't exist and have never felt what it's like to be here so when other people say it's very good they won't believe it because they haven't felt it before.
Firstly I don't see any connections with your title and that of this statement,

According to your title the Bitcoin price is really depreciating, and some are seeing it as an opportunity, to come into the Bitcoin community why others sees it as a time to pull 📴, because they are afraid that the crypto space are crashing gradually, not knowing that it happens ones in a while.

For those who still don't believe in it, we hope and pray for them to embrace it soon, because they might leave to reject it sooner or later.

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This is the reason why it has been growing so much all these years. More number of people are becoming aware of it and realizing it's potential.
I second that, I also think the benefit of being your own bank has been underrated by quite a lot of people in the past, but due to inflation and dictatorial policies by many governments, quite a lot of individuals and organizations as well are now harnessing the benefits of being your own bank in the Bitcoin network, and also using the network as a hedge to fiat Inflation and other whatnots, I expect the number of Bitcoin users to steadily continue to grow as people begin to discover its benefits till we get to mass adoption.

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This is the reason why it has been growing so much all these years. More number of people are becoming aware of it and realizing it's potential.
I second that, I also think the benefit of being your own bank has been underrated by quite a lot of people in the past, but due to inflation and dictatorial policies by many governments, quite a lot of individuals and organizations as well are now harnessing the benefits of being your own bank in the Bitcoin network, and also using the network as a hedge to fiat Inflation and other whatnots, I expect the number of Bitcoin users to steadily continue to grow as people begin to discover its benefits till we get to mass adoption.
People would make out some discrimination once they dont even have the slightest idea on whats it all about thats why they could say up those things even though it wasnt right but for those who

are aware on what it is will surely be laughing out since those people doesnt really have any idea and those criticisms might turn out to be a praise later on if they do just tend to look on the brighter side
or simply make out some research first before make out those bad comments.

You would really be saying wrong things even if you dont have much idea on what it is all about.

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from here I started to think, the reason why people still hate bitcoin is because they don't exist and have never felt what it's like to be here so when other people say it's very good they won't believe it because they haven't felt it before.
It cannot be denied that still a lot of people were not able to understand Bitcoin, they are most likely misinformed and got it wrong. Their mind needs to be cleared in order to the reality that Bitcoin is not a scam and it hasn't the intention to scam people.
Well, we have nothing to prove to them that they are wrong and we don't need to urge them to understand, that should be their well to do it. And I was glad that you have change your mind and never neglected to start investing Bitcoin. And those people who keep saying negative towards Bitcoin will soon to regrets and blame themselves.
Well, as long as they remained to be misinformed and continue to see bitcoin in a very negative way, then they will continue to miss the chance in bitcoin. But i also hope that they will be enlighten soon and start to embrace bitcoin too like what you did because bitcoin aims to spread massive adoption as its ultimate goal, so how will it be possible if a lot of people are still blinded by the wrong information about bitcoin? Maybe time will really come that they will be interested in bitcoin once the rest of the folks are already making profits in bitcoin.

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This is the reason why it has been growing so much all these years. More number of people are becoming aware of it and realizing it's potential.
I second that, I also think the benefit of being your own bank has been underrated by quite a lot of people in the past, but due to inflation and dictatorial policies by many governments, quite a lot of individuals and organizations as well are now harnessing the benefits of being your own bank in the Bitcoin network, and also using the network as a hedge to fiat Inflation and other whatnots, I expect the number of Bitcoin users to steadily continue to grow as people begin to discover its benefits till we get to mass adoption.
People would make out some discrimination once they dont even have the slightest idea on whats it all about thats why they could say up those things even though it wasnt right but for those who

are aware on what it is will surely be laughing out since those people doesnt really have any idea and those criticisms might turn out to be a praise later on if they do just tend to look on the brighter side
or simply make out some research first before make out those bad comments.

You would really be saying wrong things even if you dont have much idea on what it is all about.

great to hear the story of the OP. this is only one testament coming from the traditional banking industry, that most of them are against in crypto or btc up until now because they have not experienced yet being in crypto. but more then likely, they will change their perspectives once they tasted what it's to be like when you involve yourself in crypto.
ignorance and lack of knowledge are usually the reason why people don't like a new technology. but try educating them and for sure, they will switch sides.
so yeah, i believe it is only a matter of time before other people who highly criticised btc or crypto to change their minds. but don't force them to change sides, it will be their own time to realise things here because that would be better.

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Did you have any specific reason why you didn't like it before though?
I am a person who has an idealistic nature by nature, and because of this trait when I am at a point where I have fiat and the bank is behind me, I feel very comfortable (at that time).
and then when bitcoin came around and it started to get crowded I felt this was something that wasn't right because my presumption was how it was possible for something that didn't exist to have value and I didn't accept that at first.

This is perfectly legitimate and realistically the biggest reason why crypto adoption is frowned upon. The common belief is that central banks support the legitimacy of a country's economy. After all, it's the central banks that back the value of the currency. Why would the average citizen have any reason to dispute them? Setting aside the clear reasons to not trust government, the simplest example would be going to a grocery store, paying with fiat, and accepting goods in return. Perfectly safe, correct? You're able to trade in intrinsically worthless paper for tangible goods. This creates a psychology, bonding you to fiat.

But, things turn sour when the value of the paper becomes lower, ie inflation. No longer does the paper allow for the same purchasing power. This is generally when people are awaken to the merits of crypto, and the psychology of the central bank's safety net is broken.
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I am a former employee who worked in a private bank in a remote area of ​​my country.
when some friends started introducing crypto, especially bitcoin, I was the one who was the most against it because apart from being against the work system I was doing, it also had an impact on the quality of banks in my area.
came to a turning point where I was disappointed with the bank system that took my finances for no apparent reason so that it made me switch to bitcoin and leave my job that I considered special before in 2020.
and an extraordinary thing happened, where as long as I was in cryptocurrency for this year it turned out that crypto, especially bitcoin, was not as bad as I thought at first, this is actually one of the good investments that I just made after investing previously regulated by the government and some real estate .

from here I started to think, the reason why people still hate bitcoin is because they don't exist and have never felt what it's like to be here so when other people say it's very good they won't believe it because they haven't felt it before.

I think there is also a growing "nocoiner" phenomenon: nocoiners are people who watch with anxiety and envy while others make massive gains in these investments, and selectively pick data such as massive corrections to confirm their bias regarding the riskiness of these assets. Rather than admit they are wrong, they double and triple down so that after years have gone by and many millionaires have been minted, they remain on the sidelines with a self-righteous air.
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I am a person who has an idealistic nature by nature, and because of this trait when I am at a point where I have fiat and the bank is behind me, I feel very comfortable (at that time).
and then when bitcoin came around and it started to get crowded I felt this was something that wasn't right because my presumption was how it was possible for something that didn't exist to have value and I didn't accept that at first.

This is perfectly legitimate and realistically the biggest reason why crypto adoption is frowned upon. The common belief is that central banks support the legitimacy of a country's economy. After all, it's the central banks that back the value of the currency. Why would the average citizen have any reason to dispute them? Setting aside the clear reasons to not trust government, the simplest example would be going to a grocery store, paying with fiat, and accepting goods in return. Perfectly safe, correct? You're able to trade in intrinsically worthless paper for tangible goods. This creates a psychology, bonding you to fiat.

But, things turn sour when the value of the paper becomes lower, ie inflation. No longer does the paper allow for the same purchasing power. This is generally when people are awaken to the merits of crypto, and the psychology of the central bank's safety net is broken.
I agree with what you said and indeed indirectly it can indeed be used as a good reason.
on the other hand, it seems now that Fiat is indeed quite good when viewed normally but when you go deeper you can feel a clear difference that is indeed harming you little by little.
the reason most people don't respond to the loss is because indeed they only say it is a small loss even though if you look at the loss, which is said to be small, over time it will grow and balloon.


I think there is also a growing "nocoiner" phenomenon: nocoiners are people who watch with anxiety and envy while others make massive gains in these investments, and selectively pick data such as massive corrections to confirm their bias regarding the riskiness of these assets. Rather than admit they are wrong, they double and triple down so that after years have gone by and many millionaires have been minted, they remain on the sidelines with a self-righteous air.
I'm hearing this term for the first time and it's probably happened to me.
thank you for identifying and providing new insights.
and it's true because this kind of thing can't be denied because when they feel there is a loss instead of admitting that the system is lacking, they actually blame it on something else

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Most of the people I know that started to own Bitcoin or started using Bitcoin are just because they thought some "easy money", I'm glad that you really appreciate the use of Bitcoin.
I am guilty of this mate because this is also how Bitcoin being introduced to me , some friends tells me that there are income when buying this but eventually i realized that there are lot more from having bitcoin and not just profiteering .
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I have a question also that from you as a former banker and now a pro-Bitcoin supporter, what are some problems you encounter or most of the people encounter from using banks that Bitcoin can handle?

I m also looking for the differentiation of the two career OP has now as I am not that deeply familiar about how banker moves .

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