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Title: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez Title Unification Fight (April 30)
Post by: bisdak40 on February 11, 2022, 03:05:02 AM
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Date: April 30, 2022
Venue: Lase Vegas

This fight is one of the most awaited fight for this year.

A knockout artist vs defense oriented fighter, who will prevail?

Though odds are not available yet as of this writing but i have a gut feeling the Oscar Valdez will be the slight favorite as he is the more experienced of the two.

What's your thoughts on this?

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Shakur Stevenson and Oscar Valdez have agreed to a deal for a 130-pound title unification fight on April 30 in Las Vegas, sources told ESPN on Wednesday.

https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/33080137/shakur-stevenson-oscar-valdez-working-finalize-title-unification-fight-sources-say


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez 130-pound Title Unification Fight
Post by: Kemarit on February 11, 2022, 03:39:42 AM
Hard to predict but I will say that I will go with Shakur Stevenson here. He will play with his strengths here, by defense and then throw some with counter punching.

Valdez though has a knock out left hook or upper cut punch. So that's what Shakur needs to look at. I will say it could go on the judges scorecard and seeing Shakur frustrating Valdez in his fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez 130-pound Title Unification Fight
Post by: Chato1977 on February 11, 2022, 05:01:09 AM
Another great fight to be coming this year , while I have Known Oscar Valdez for long but Stevenson is new to my ear.

But like what I have been seeing , I will Wait for OP's position to whom to bet because I know How expert @bisdak40 in boxing and Basketball so Yes will be betting with Him if he would share the chances here ..


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez 130-pound Title Unification Fight
Post by: Yaunfitda on February 11, 2022, 08:04:41 AM
I will go with the knock out puncher here which is Oscar Valdez.
He has the experienced and the tools to even knock out tough Stevenson in this fight. Valdez has improved a lot and has been guided by Reynoso, that's why the left hook is so potent like Canelo and Ryan Garcia.

It will be a war but Valdez will win by either KO or a UD.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez 130-pound Title Unification Fight
Post by: aioc on February 11, 2022, 08:53:16 AM
Both fighters are battle-tested but I like Valdez aggressiveness and toughness I'm sure there will be thrash talks between the two, Valdez must win this fight convincingly to erase the Robson Conceição controversy and prove to the boxing fans that he is the real champion, there will be excitement in the build-up leading to this fight as both are champions.
Both fighters are equal and I'm sure it will be hard for bettors to figure out who is the big favorite


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez 130-pound Title Unification Fight
Post by: Jating on February 11, 2022, 09:02:45 AM
Both fighters are battle-tested but I like Valdez aggressiveness and toughness I'm sure there will be thrash talks between the two, Valdez must win this fight convincingly to erase the Robson Conceição controversy and prove to the boxing fans that he is the real champion, there will be excitement in the build-up leading to this fight as both are champions.
Both fighters are equal and I'm sure it will be hard for bettors to figure out who is the big favorite

For the record, the controversy is that Valdez was caught with PEDs.

True, this is hard for bettors to decide where to put our money. As you have said, both are battle tested and coming from a win. And this is not just another fight as this is unification and I'm glad that both of this fighters have agreed.

I'm interested to see what will be the opening odds, as who will be the slight favorite.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez 130-pound Title Unification Fight
Post by: Baofeng on February 11, 2022, 09:18:48 AM
Both fighters are equal and I'm sure it will be hard for bettors to figure out who is the big favorite

This is true, there will be no clear outstanding favorite in this fight, maybe it will open like 1.85 both odds.

Both have been trash talking ever since they won both of their respective fights and accusing each other of trying to avoid this fight. But both have sign in the dotted line already and we have a date of this fight. I will bet on Valdez though, Valdez seems to thrive on bigger stage and has more power and riding high from his biggest win over Miguel Berchelt.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez 130-pound Title Unification Fight
Post by: YOSHIE on February 11, 2022, 09:24:23 AM
but i have a gut feeling the Oscar Valdez will be the slight favorite as he is the more experienced of the two.

What's your thoughts on this?
I agree, I often see Shakur boxing in the ring in a style that is often played like the boxer Guillermo with style (pull-back), boring, very much different from Valdez, even though this is the boxing I've been waiting for to bet on, I wish Shakur was more professional in the ring against Valdez, I'm most tired of seeing his boxing style retreat and save myself from being hit.

I think a boxer like Valdez, I believe he has a lot of options before deciding to fight Shakur next, but it doesn't matter I hope Shakur doesn't make all the audience throw coffee cups at the screen this time, I hope Shakur isn't like a hot duck looking for water.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez 130-pound Title Unification Fight
Post by: Finestream on February 11, 2022, 11:10:12 AM
I'm with the more aggressive fighter, a sluggish fighter who is fighting to KO his opponent, and that way it will result in an entertaining fight. This is going to be a great fight because it's a unification fight, so whoever wins here will become more popular and will expect a better opportunity in the future.

My vote is for Oscar Valdez, he will prove that he is the best.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez 130-pound Title Unification Fight
Post by: cryptomaniac_xxx on February 11, 2022, 12:23:37 PM
My vote is for Oscar Valdez, he will prove that he is the best.

Both will have to prove something is  this fight, to be the best in their division. So far Oscar Valdez have that time, but Shakur is coming up in ranks.

And as boxing fans, we all know that style makes fight, so this will be a contrasting style. An aggressive one against a more defensive fighter who wants to counter and let his opponent open up and then slide a body punch. We will see which style are going to win.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez 130-pound Title Unification Fight
Post by: bisdak40 on February 11, 2022, 09:23:15 PM
Both fighters are equal and I'm sure it will be hard for bettors to figure out who is the big favorite

This is true, there will be no clear outstanding favorite in this fight, maybe it will open like 1.85 both odds.

Both have been trash talking ever since they won both of their respective fights and accusing each other of trying to avoid this fight. But both have sign in the dotted line already and we have a date of this fight. I will bet on Valdez though, Valdez seems to thrive on bigger stage and has more power and riding high from his biggest win over Miguel Berchelt.

I'm a bit surprised by this move of Bob Arum to let his cash cows meet in the ring this early lol. I think that the old man has learned his lesson on the Crawford controversy and afraid that either Valdez or Stevenson will bolt out of his promotional company.

This fight is very hard to predict for me though i'm leaning towards Valdez but if the odds are high on Stevenson then i would go for it.

This reminds me of the fight between Manny vs Money. Aggressive vs defensive where the latter won hehe.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez 130-pound Title Unification Fight
Post by: judeafante on February 11, 2022, 09:55:06 PM
I'm with the more aggressive fighter, a sluggish fighter who is fighting to KO his opponent, and that way it will result in an entertaining fight. This is going to be a great fight because it's a unification fight, so whoever wins here will become more popular and will expect a better opportunity in the future.

My vote is for Oscar Valdez, he will prove that he is the best.

People love to see action in the ring and they want fighters who are not afraid to engage and go toe to toe I'm also going for Valdez on this one, this has the making of a great fight they are both champions, people love to see two champions against each other with so many belts in the boxing industry it's always good to see a unification fight for the boxing community to see who is the real champion.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez 130-pound Title Unification Fight
Post by: Kemarit on February 12, 2022, 03:06:17 AM
Both fighters are equal and I'm sure it will be hard for bettors to figure out who is the big favorite

This is true, there will be no clear outstanding favorite in this fight, maybe it will open like 1.85 both odds.

Both have been trash talking ever since they won both of their respective fights and accusing each other of trying to avoid this fight. But both have sign in the dotted line already and we have a date of this fight. I will bet on Valdez though, Valdez seems to thrive on bigger stage and has more power and riding high from his biggest win over Miguel Berchelt.

I'm a bit surprised by this move of Bob Arum to let his cash cows meet in the ring this early lol. I think that the old man has learned his lesson on the Crawford controversy and afraid that either Valdez or Stevenson will bolt out of his promotional company.

This fight is very hard to predict for me though i'm leaning towards Valdez but if the odds are high on Stevenson then i would go for it.

This reminds me of the fight between Manny vs Money. Aggressive vs defensive where the latter won hehe.

At long as it is in house money, that is good for Bob Arum, again another great example, Manny Pacquiao and even Crawford who fought mostly Top Rank's fighter. The thing is that his stable of 147 lbs is not that deep that's why Crawford has been criticize.

But with division, Arum has few good fighters and that's why he is willing to make this fight. It's a win-win situation for him.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez 130-pound Title Unification Fight
Post by: cabron on February 12, 2022, 05:08:43 AM
Another great fight to be coming this year , while I have Known Oscar Valdez for long but Stevenson is new to my ear.

But like what I have been seeing , I will Wait for OP's position to whom to bet because I know How expert @bisdak40 in boxing and Basketball so Yes will be betting with Him if he would share the chances here ..


Stevenson was actually trying to make this fight happen for a long time. He had been asking for Valdez to fight with him but he seems unheard. Not until he got his champion belt last year. Although Stevenson isn't a veteran fighter yet in boxing he did a fair fight to earn respect.

If Valdez gave an impressive knockout against Robson Conceicao, this fight against Stevenson will probably not happen. Which promoters led to believe Stevenson is the way to end Valdez's reign. Stevenson is defensive like Conceicao and can box twice as hard.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez 130-pound Title Unification Fight
Post by: coin-investor on February 12, 2022, 07:06:47 AM
Another great fight to be coming this year , while I have Known Oscar Valdez for long but Stevenson is new to my ear.

But like what I have been seeing , I will Wait for OP's position to whom to bet because I know How expert @bisdak40 in boxing and Basketball so Yes will be betting with Him if he would share the chances here ..


Stevenson was actually trying to make this fight happen for a long time. He had been asking for Valdez to fight with him but he seems unheard. Not until he got his champion belt last year. Although Stevenson isn't a veteran fighter yet in boxing he did a fair fight to earn respect.

If Valdez gave an impressive knockout against Robson Conceicao, this fight against Stevenson will probably not happen. Which promoters led to believe Stevenson is the way to end Valdez's reign. Stevenson is defensive like Conceicao and can box twice as hard.

Both undefeated both at the height of this career, this is a fight worth watching, we can compare this fight to Spence - Crawford in terms of caliber and excitement as both fighters are titleholders and own undefeated records, both fighters are hungry for big money and recognition there's a possibility that this two fighters will not fight each other once it has the making of a rematch or even trilogy.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez 130-pound Title Unification Fight
Post by: Jawhead999 on February 12, 2022, 08:58:00 AM
I'll pick Stevenson here, he's a young impressive boxer right now. Both are undefeated but Valdez has more title, defending the belt multiple times and fought than Stevenson, which I believe odds will be favor to Valdez. IMO the previous Valdez's fight with Conceicao isn't fair, Conceicao landed more clean punch rather than Valdez.. but he still win the fight with Unanimous decision. So he might lose when he fight with Stevenson, because Stevenson is better than Conceicao.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez 130-pound Title Unification Fight
Post by: Baofeng on February 12, 2022, 09:38:37 AM
Both fighters are equal and I'm sure it will be hard for bettors to figure out who is the big favorite

This is true, there will be no clear outstanding favorite in this fight, maybe it will open like 1.85 both odds.

Both have been trash talking ever since they won both of their respective fights and accusing each other of trying to avoid this fight. But both have sign in the dotted line already and we have a date of this fight. I will bet on Valdez though, Valdez seems to thrive on bigger stage and has more power and riding high from his biggest win over Miguel Berchelt.

I'm a bit surprised by this move of Bob Arum to let his cash cows meet in the ring this early lol. I think that the old man has learned his lesson on the Crawford controversy and afraid that either Valdez or Stevenson will bolt out of his promotional company.

This fight is very hard to predict for me though i'm leaning towards Valdez but if the odds are high on Stevenson then i would go for it.

This reminds me of the fight between Manny vs Money. Aggressive vs defensive where the latter won hehe.

At long as it is in house money, that is good for Bob Arum, again another great example, Manny Pacquiao and even Crawford who fought mostly Top Rank's fighter. The thing is that his stable of 147 lbs is not that deep that's why Crawford has been criticize.

But with division, Arum has few good fighters and that's why he is willing to make this fight. It's a win-win situation for him.

Right, this could the reason why Uncle Bob is willing to have this great fight. So in paper it seems that he is doing good for the boxing community. But in essence, still boils down on money, he will have all the money win or lose here, so a great but bitch ass move by Arum. But who would complain though? 2 fighters at their prime, undefeated and fighting for unification.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez 130-pound Title Unification Fight
Post by: Shamm on February 12, 2022, 10:43:37 AM
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Date: April 30, 2022
Venue: Lase Vegas

This fight is one of the most awaited fight for this year.

A knockout artist vs defense oriented fighter, who will prevail?

Though odds are not available yet as of this writing but i have a gut feeling that Oscar Valdez will be the slight favorite as he is the more experienced of the two.

What are your thoughts on this?

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Shakur Stevenson and Oscar Valdez have agreed to a deal for a 130-pound title unification fight on April 30 in Las Vegas, sources told ESPN on Wednesday.

https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/33080137/shakur-stevenson-oscar-valdez-working-finalize-title-unification-fight-sources-say

Both fighters are good and great in terms of fighting and they are also doing good in their boxing career they have already built their reputation and already introduce themselves to the crowd. But in this fight ill go for Oscar Valdez not because he known but he has an ability to sustain himself until the end of the fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez 130-pound Title Unification Fight
Post by: Hypnosis00 on February 12, 2022, 01:25:37 PM
I'm sure this is not a boring fight especially since Oscar Valdez is fighting, however, in terms of skills and the IQ in boxing, I guess I would side Shakur Stevenson to win because he is a more technical boxer and I'm guessing this will go to the judges' scorecards.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez 130-pound Title Unification Fight
Post by: bittraffic on February 12, 2022, 02:30:21 PM

Oscar Valdez had been defending his title since 2016 with records of 23 wins by KO out of 30 fights, that's very impressive. So many unification fights coming this year I'm beginning to think the other organization is about to shut down.  :D

Shakur Stevenson is poised to be a new Floyd Mayweather so why is that when there are so much better fighters over him like Tank Davis.
 



Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez 130-pound Title Unification Fight
Post by: AmoreJaz on February 12, 2022, 02:52:53 PM

Oscar Valdez had been defending his title since 2016 with records of 23 wins by KO out of 30 fights, that's very impressive. So many unification fights coming this year I'm beginning to think the other organization is about to shut down.  :D

Shakur Stevenson is poised to be a new Floyd Mayweather so why is that when there are so much better fighters over him like Tank Davis.
 

and we all know that if you talk about being floyd mayweather, it means being too technical to the point of going around inside the ring, and avoiding the opponent. so yeah, oscar should find ways how to engage shakur in their fight. or else, shakur will just count points throughout those 12 rounds.  i will go for the KO artist here. not really into defensive fighting as it is too boring to watch.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez 130-pound Title Unification Fight
Post by: Kakmakr on February 12, 2022, 03:34:40 PM
It is either going to be a very short fight if Valdez can land one of his huge punches or it is going to be a very long fight if Shakur can hold his mostly defense strategy.  ::)

Stevenson is the WBO super-featherweight champion, so I favor him over Valdez.... simply because he is the strategist and the better boxer for me. (Stevenson is coming from a great performance against Jamel Herring, where he went 10 rounds to win the WBO super featherweight championship)  ;D


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez 130-pound Title Unification Fight
Post by: bisdak40 on February 12, 2022, 08:08:13 PM
I'm sure this is not a boring fight especially since Oscar Valdez is fighting, however, in terms of skills and the IQ in boxing, I guess I would side Shakur Stevenson to win because he is a more technical boxer and I'm guessing this will go to the judges' scorecards.

Yeah, i agree that this would not be a boring fight as Valdez is an explosive fighter. I just hope that he won't be frustrated early on and be patient until he can figure out how hurt Shakur.

What i like about Oscar is that he can go to the distance also if needed as he has the stamina and not gassed out unlike other KO artist that if they failed to KO their opponents, they seemed to gassed out as they are not used to fighting the full 12 rounds.

Will add a poll to see who got the edge of the two on this forum.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez 130-pound Title Unification Fight
Post by: Hypnosis00 on February 12, 2022, 08:47:29 PM
I'm sure this is not a boring fight especially since Oscar Valdez is fighting, however, in terms of skills and the IQ in boxing, I guess I would side Shakur Stevenson to win because he is a more technical boxer and I'm guessing this will go to the judges' scorecards.

Yeah, i agree that this would not be a boring fight as Valdez is an explosive fighter. I just hope that he won't be frustrated early on and be patient until he can figure out how hurt Shakur.

What i like about Oscar is that he can go to the distance also if needed as he has the stamina and not gassed out unlike other KO artist that if they failed to KO their opponents, they seemed to gassed out as they are not used to fighting the full 12 rounds.

Will add a poll to see who got the edge of the two on this forum.

Thanks for adding the poll, I made my vote already and it goes to Stevenson as I said. For me, it's a 50-50 fight, no idea what the betting odds are on this fight but I think it's going to be an explosive fight with an unpredictable outcome, probably one of the best fights this year as Valdez will definitely be in full aggressive mode until the 12 rounds, but if cannot hurt Shakur, things will not work on his way then.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez 130-pound Title Unification Fight
Post by: Maslate on February 12, 2022, 09:05:32 PM
I voted for Oscar Valdes, I'm betting on a more exciting fighter and I guess Oscar Valdez passed my qualification and I believe that he will win in this fight. Shakur Stevenson is also good, no offense to the fans but I have to choose the best one and I always believe that a more aggressive fighter has the better chance of winning, who knows, we might see Valdez KO Stevenson here.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez 130-pound Title Unification Fight
Post by: DoublerHunter on February 12, 2022, 09:16:24 PM
I voted for Oscar Valdes, I'm betting on a more exciting fighter and I guess Oscar Valdez passed my qualification and I believe that he will win in this fight. Shakur Stevenson is also good, no offense to the fans but I have to choose the best one and I always believe that a more aggressive fighter has the better chance of winning, who knows, we might see Valdez KO Stevenson here.
^ You are right and we have on the same side, Oscar Valdez has a strong punch and aggressive fighter and probably he will win this match easily and beat Shakur Stevenson but yes, though this fight is unpredictable and the chances could be on Steveson. There is a possibility that Valdez will become lost too.
However, I just want to share that there is also a fight of Amanda Serrano vs. Katie Taylor on that date and probably it is a short round for them because they are all girls.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez 130-pound Title Unification Fight
Post by: Botnake on February 12, 2022, 09:43:02 PM
Valdez is on the lead on the poll with 3 votes of 4.

Anyway, if you are looking for the betting odds, this site https://bettinginsiderjournal.com/boxing/valdez-vs-stevenson-odds/, gives you what you are looking for. And good news for Valdez fans, he is the underdog here.

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Valdez vs Stevenson Odds
Boxer   Odds
Oscar Valdez   +210
Shakur Stevenson   -270

Oscar Valdez opens as the betting underdog +210 against Shakur Stevenson. With an implied win probability of 32%, you can bet $100 on Valdez to net $210. For Stevenson who is seven years younger with less professional experience, he is a -270 favorite. (Bet $270, net $100).


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez 130-pound Title Unification Fight
Post by: robelneo on February 12, 2022, 11:45:27 PM
Two more months to go it will create a big hype because of the potential of the fight, fights like this are good for the boxing industry two undefeated champions battling it out on who is a superior champion, something that we want to see in the welterweight division, I have Valdez too as a slight favorite because of his experience and boxing style, I love fighters who takes risk inside the ring by going toe to toe so Valdez is my bet to win this unification bout.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez 130-pound Title Unification Fight
Post by: TravelMug on February 13, 2022, 02:05:09 AM

Oscar Valdez had been defending his title since 2016 with records of 23 wins by KO out of 30 fights, that's very impressive. So many unification fights coming this year I'm beginning to think the other organization is about to shut down.  :D

Shakur Stevenson is poised to be a new Floyd Mayweather so why is that when there are so much better fighters over him like Tank Davis.
 

and we all know that if you talk about being floyd mayweather, it means being too technical to the point of going around inside the ring, and avoiding the opponent. so yeah, oscar should find ways how to engage shakur in their fight. or else, shakur will just count points throughout those 12 rounds.  i will go for the KO artist here. not really into defensive fighting as it is too boring to watch.

Oscar Valdez is not shy to engage he has a knock out power that's why for sure he will go and be the aggressor in this fight. Shakur though will pile up points countering, but I don't know how it will be an effective strategy against a power puncher. Shakur though has a decent power so let's see if he touches Oscar and if Oscar are going to feel it or not. Plus, Shakur has also a devastating body punch so again, we will see if he can land his money punch.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez 130-pound Title Unification Fight
Post by: cabron on February 13, 2022, 02:58:27 AM
Another great fight to be coming this year , while I have Known Oscar Valdez for long but Stevenson is new to my ear.

But like what I have been seeing , I will Wait for OP's position to whom to bet because I know How expert @bisdak40 in boxing and Basketball so Yes will be betting with Him if he would share the chances here ..


Stevenson was actually trying to make this fight happen for a long time. He had been asking for Valdez to fight with him but he seems unheard. Not until he got his champion belt last year. Although Stevenson isn't a veteran fighter yet in boxing he did a fair fight to earn respect.

If Valdez gave an impressive knockout against Robson Conceicao, this fight against Stevenson will probably not happen. Which promoters led to believe Stevenson is the way to end Valdez's reign. Stevenson is defensive like Conceicao and can box twice as hard.

Both undefeated both at the height of this career, this is a fight worth watching, we can compare this fight to Spence - Crawford in terms of caliber and excitement as both fighters are titleholders and own undefeated records, both fighters are hungry for big money and recognition there's a possibility that this two fighters will not fight each other once it has the making of a rematch or even trilogy.

Valdez's weakness had been exposed when he fought against Conceicao actually. It's the last fight that he struggled which if you look at the mess on Valdez's face, it's obviously Conceicao's favor and if it weren't for the 1 point deduction against Conceicao the fight would have been a draw. The promotion is looking for someone who can simulate Conceicao and the perfect match is Stevenson.





Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez 130-pound Title Unification Fight
Post by: Jawhead999 on February 13, 2022, 03:17:15 AM
Anyway, if you are looking for the betting odds, this site https://bettinginsiderjournal.com/boxing/valdez-vs-stevenson-odds/, gives you what you are looking for. And good news for Valdez fans, he is the underdog here.
I'm surprised Valdez is the underdog here, I mean he's fought more and have more belts than Stevenson. It's seems the bookie is more prefer with the boxing speculation rather than the statistic. -270 favorite isn't really attractive odds, I'll wait until the bookie listed this match and see the official odds.

Valdez's weakness had been exposed when he fought against Conceicao actually. It's the last fight that he struggled which if you look at the mess on Valdez's face, it's obviously Conceicao's favor and if it weren't for the 1 point deduction against Conceicao the fight would have been a draw. The promotion is looking for someone who can simulate Conceicao and the perfect match is Stevenson.
Yep this is what I've mentioned previously, if we rewatch the fight it's clear Conceicao won... I don't know why Valdez could win moreover with Unanimous decision (3 judges agree Valdez really dominating the fight)


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez 130-pound Title Unification Fight
Post by: Jating on February 13, 2022, 05:07:39 AM
Another great fight to be coming this year , while I have Known Oscar Valdez for long but Stevenson is new to my ear.

But like what I have been seeing , I will Wait for OP's position to whom to bet because I know How expert @bisdak40 in boxing and Basketball so Yes will be betting with Him if he would share the chances here ..


Stevenson was actually trying to make this fight happen for a long time. He had been asking for Valdez to fight with him but he seems unheard. Not until he got his champion belt last year. Although Stevenson isn't a veteran fighter yet in boxing he did a fair fight to earn respect.

If Valdez gave an impressive knockout against Robson Conceicao, this fight against Stevenson will probably not happen. Which promoters led to believe Stevenson is the way to end Valdez's reign. Stevenson is defensive like Conceicao and can box twice as hard.

Both undefeated both at the height of this career, this is a fight worth watching, we can compare this fight to Spence - Crawford in terms of caliber and excitement as both fighters are titleholders and own undefeated records, both fighters are hungry for big money and recognition there's a possibility that this two fighters will not fight each other once it has the making of a rematch or even trilogy.

Valdez's weakness had been exposed when he fought against Conceicao actually. It's the last fight that he struggled which if you look at the mess on Valdez's face, it's obviously Conceicao's favor and if it weren't for the 1 point deduction against Conceicao the fight would have been a draw. The promotion is looking for someone who can simulate Conceicao and the perfect match is Stevenson.

Not defending Valdez but it seems that the news about him caught by a ban substance might have influence his performance here. For sure there could be some mental effects on him that's why his performance is not that good and Conceicao was able to take advantage of it. Too bad though of the deduction on points, but I think Valdez will still have won that fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez 130-pound Title Unification Fight
Post by: Saisher on February 13, 2022, 08:21:05 AM
Both fighters are great and with good potential to be part of the hall of fame but so far here in Bitcointalk voting, although still in small number, Valdez is winning by a big margin, for me they are both even and they are made for each other in terms of fighting skills, we have a saying that style makes a fight so it will be interesting whose style will emerge as the better one.

Oscar Valdez   - 7 (77.8%)
Shakur Stevenson   - 2 (22.2%)
Total Voters: 9


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez 130-pound Title Unification Fight
Post by: Viscore on February 13, 2022, 12:39:57 PM
Both fighters are great and with good potential to be part of the hall of fame but so far here in Bitcointalk voting, although still in small number, Valdez is winning by a big margin, for me they are both even and they are made for each other in terms of fighting skills, we have a saying that style makes a fight so it will be interesting whose style will emerge as the better one.

Oscar Valdez   - 7 (77.8%)
Shakur Stevenson   - 2 (22.2%)
Total Voters: 9


Another thread that the underdog gets the more votes, looks like I've seen this kind of scenario before, and it's the underdog who won the fight. I like Oscar Valdez because he is a great fighter, so I would also follow what the majority think of this fight and I have Valdez winning via KO.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez 130-pound Title Unification Fight
Post by: Cling18 on February 13, 2022, 01:36:44 PM
Both fighters are great and with good potential to be part of the hall of fame but so far here in Bitcointalk voting, although still in small number, Valdez is winning by a big margin, for me they are both even and they are made for each other in terms of fighting skills, we have a saying that style makes a fight so it will be interesting whose style will emerge as the better one.

Oscar Valdez   - 7 (77.8%)
Shakur Stevenson   - 2 (22.2%)
Total Voters: 9


Another thread that the underdog gets the more votes, looks like I've seen this kind of scenario before, and it's the underdog who won the fight. I like Oscar Valdez because he is a great fighter, so I would also follow what the majority think of this fight and I have Valdez winning via KO.

That happened before but I don't think things would be the same this time. Oscar is too prepared for this and if we'll look at his previous fights, we could notice how aggressive he is in the ring. I like how focused Valdez is but I also believe that it will be a challenging match for him.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez 130-pound Title Unification Fight
Post by: btc_angela on February 13, 2022, 02:16:36 PM
Both fighters are great and with good potential to be part of the hall of fame but so far here in Bitcointalk voting, although still in small number, Valdez is winning by a big margin, for me they are both even and they are made for each other in terms of fighting skills, we have a saying that style makes a fight so it will be interesting whose style will emerge as the better one.

Oscar Valdez   - 7 (77.8%)
Shakur Stevenson   - 2 (22.2%)
Total Voters: 9


Another thread that the underdog gets the more votes, looks like I've seen this kind of scenario before, and it's the underdog who won the fight. I like Oscar Valdez because he is a great fighter, so I would also follow what the majority think of this fight and I have Valdez winning via KO.

That happened before but I don't think things would be the same this time. Oscar is too prepared for this and if we'll look at his previous fights, we could notice how aggressive he is in the ring. I like how focused Valdez is but I also believe that it will be a challenging match for him.

Right, Valdez might be looking this fight after his win against Conceicao.
And Stevenson as well, after his Herring victory, it is obvious that his next target is Valdez because he has been calling him.

I still like how Valdez is though in his last couple of fights. Aggressive but knows how to control it in every round. So looking to bet on him if he is going to be the underdog in this fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez 130-pound Title Unification Fight
Post by: Ziskinberg on February 13, 2022, 03:46:18 PM
Both fighters are great and with good potential to be part of the hall of fame but so far here in Bitcointalk voting, although still in small number, Valdez is winning by a big margin, for me they are both even and they are made for each other in terms of fighting skills, we have a saying that style makes a fight so it will be interesting whose style will emerge as the better one.

Oscar Valdez   - 7 (77.8%)
Shakur Stevenson   - 2 (22.2%)
Total Voters: 9


Another thread that the underdog gets the more votes, looks like I've seen this kind of scenario before, and it's the underdog who won the fight. I like Oscar Valdez because he is a great fighter, so I would also follow what the majority think of this fight and I have Valdez winning via KO.

That happened before but I don't think things would be the same this time. Oscar is too prepared for this and if we'll look at his previous fights, we could notice how aggressive he is in the ring. I like how focused Valdez is but I also believe that it will be a challenging match for him.

As shared by the above poster.
Valdez is on the lead on the poll with 3 votes of 4.

Anyway, if you are looking for the betting odds, this site https://bettinginsiderjournal.com/boxing/valdez-vs-stevenson-odds/, gives you what you are looking for. And good news for Valdez fans, he is the underdog here.

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Valdez vs Stevenson Odds
Boxer   Odds
Oscar Valdez   +210
Shakur Stevenson   -270

Oscar Valdez opens as the betting underdog +210 against Shakur Stevenson. With an implied win probability of 32%, you can bet $100 on Valdez to net $210. For Stevenson who is seven years younger with less professional experience, he is a -270 favorite. (Bet $270, net $100).


It was Stevenson who is listed as the favorite to win this fight. So betting on Oscar Valdez should give you more confident and at the same time you'll enjoy the betting odds as you can get +210 betting on Valdez to win. I think this is not we are expecting, but odds doesn't matter, Valdez is a great fighter but Stevenson is a great challenge as well.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez 130-pound Title Unification Fight
Post by: Yaunfitda on February 14, 2022, 01:06:04 PM
^^  I think majority here will bet on Valdez as he will be the underdog.
Stevenson though is also have a good record, even defeating Herring in his last fight.
But Valdez is also a champion and ever since he won the belt, it seems that he is not going to lose a fight. There could be swing as far as the betting goes, and we might see some flip, I reckon and Valdez will be the favorite as the fight gets closer.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez 130-pound Title Unification Fight
Post by: freedomgo on February 14, 2022, 02:05:27 PM
^^  I think majority here will bet on Valdez as he will be the underdog.
Stevenson though is also have a good record, even defeating Herring in his last fight.
But Valdez is also a champion and ever since he won the belt, it seems that he is not going to lose a fight. There could be swing as far as the betting goes, and we might see some flip, I reckon and Valdez will be the favorite as the fight gets closer.

If that would happen, then it's high time to put our bet once the odds are available, betting on our favorite fighter to win with a good odds is just a fulfillment, and we are just going to wait and see the fight in the fight night. Of course, Valdes has a lot of fans here because he is a very entertaining fighter, and most bettors see it as their basis on betting.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez 130-pound Title Unification Fight
Post by: AmoreJaz on February 14, 2022, 11:14:07 PM
^^  I think majority here will bet on Valdez as he will be the underdog.
Stevenson though is also have a good record, even defeating Herring in his last fight.
But Valdez is also a champion and ever since he won the belt, it seems that he is not going to lose a fight. There could be swing as far as the betting goes, and we might see some flip, I reckon and Valdez will be the favorite as the fight gets closer.

If that would happen, then it's high time to put our bet once the odds are available, betting on our favorite fighter to win with a good odds is just a fulfillment, and we are just going to wait and see the fight in the fight night. Of course, Valdes has a lot of fans here because he is a very entertaining fighter, and most bettors see it as their basis on betting.

no odds yet among crypto bookies so you can't place a bet on them yet. but maybe you can find some fiat bookies that are already open for this. shakur is the slight favourite according to this  article  (https://bettinginsiderjournal.com/boxing/valdez-vs-stevenson-odds/). but this is slated this april, so a lot of things can still happen, the odds may possibly reverse.
https://i.imgur.com/k48vFw0.png


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez 130-pound Title Unification Fight
Post by: yazher on February 15, 2022, 10:36:10 AM
Shakur Stevenson's defensive strategy is unmatched, let's see what Oscar Valdez does to destroy it and take advantage of his powerful punch. From the look of it, Oscar Valdez has the upper hand here but his skills will not be counted if he doesn't land any powerful punches to Shakur. He needs to some up with a smooth strategy and it won't be easy for an ordinary boxer but I know Valdez with his experiences can execute it well.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez 130-pound Title Unification Fight
Post by: Yaunfitda on February 15, 2022, 11:08:03 AM
Shakur Stevenson's defensive strategy is unmatched, let's see what Oscar Valdez does to destroy it and take advantage of his powerful punch. From the look of it, Oscar Valdez has the upper hand here but his skills will not be counted if he doesn't land any powerful punches to Shakur. He needs to some up with a smooth strategy and it won't be easy for an ordinary boxer but I know Valdez with his experiences can execute it well.
And yet Oscar Valdez is the underdog in this fight? So are gamblers putting defense first against a powerful puncher? Nevertheless maybe Stevenson could be a defensive puncher, but he can also dishes out some good punch output and can counter Valdez in this fight. So we will see which one is going to execute their strategy to the perfection in order to win this fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez 130-pound Title Unification Fight
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on February 17, 2022, 06:10:57 PM
Shakur Stevenson's defensive strategy is unmatched, let's see what Oscar Valdez does to destroy it and take advantage of his powerful punch. From the look of it, Oscar Valdez has the upper hand here but his skills will not be counted if he doesn't land any powerful punches to Shakur. He needs to some up with a smooth strategy and it won't be easy for an ordinary boxer but I know Valdez with his experiences can execute it well.
And yet Oscar Valdez is the underdog in this fight? So are gamblers putting defense first against a powerful puncher? Nevertheless maybe Stevenson could be a defensive puncher, but he can also dishes out some good punch output and can counter Valdez in this fight. So we will see which one is going to execute their strategy to the perfection in order to win this fight.
In boxing both things must occur in a boxer to be integral, Valdez's technique and experience is something that cannot be denied, besides that he is a boxer who for me is complete, we cannot say that Shakur does not know what his opponent is like , I'm sure Shakur already knows how to fight against him, and yes, Shakur may be stronger or maybe he looks a little stronger, even so I wouldn't know how to say that he's worth more here'? The experience? Strength, maybe defense? but in boxing it is usually like soccer, the one who scores first has a great advantage, Valdez is very complete and I would bet much more on him for his punch, but if Shakur knows how to fight him well, things change in a big way, and he can give The surprise.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez 130-pound Title Unification Fight
Post by: Kemarit on March 02, 2022, 03:13:14 AM
Checking the odds st sportbet, I'm still at awe as how Stevenson seems to be the outstanding favourite in this fight, 1.23 ML against Oscar Valdez 3.75 ML.

So for Oscar Valdez fight fans out there, this is a perfect opportunity to put money line on your guy because the odds are very attractive right now. It will definitely change, but at least at this odds, you will have a good returns at this line might change as the fight date gets closer.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez 130-pound Title Unification Fight
Post by: Yaunfitda on March 02, 2022, 03:16:48 AM
Shakur Stevenson's defensive strategy is unmatched, let's see what Oscar Valdez does to destroy it and take advantage of his powerful punch. From the look of it, Oscar Valdez has the upper hand here but his skills will not be counted if he doesn't land any powerful punches to Shakur. He needs to some up with a smooth strategy and it won't be easy for an ordinary boxer but I know Valdez with his experiences can execute it well.
And yet Oscar Valdez is the underdog in this fight? So are gamblers putting defense first against a powerful puncher? Nevertheless maybe Stevenson could be a defensive puncher, but he can also dishes out some good punch output and can counter Valdez in this fight. So we will see which one is going to execute their strategy to the perfection in order to win this fight.
In boxing both things must occur in a boxer to be integral, Valdez's technique and experience is something that cannot be denied, besides that he is a boxer who for me is complete, we cannot say that Shakur does not know what his opponent is like , I'm sure Shakur already knows how to fight against him, and yes, Shakur may be stronger or maybe he looks a little stronger, even so I wouldn't know how to say that he's worth more here'? The experience? Strength, maybe defense? but in boxing it is usually like soccer, the one who scores first has a great advantage, Valdez is very complete and I would bet much more on him for his punch, but if Shakur knows how to fight him well, things change in a big way, and he can give The surprise.
I would agree that Stevenson might be the stronger dude in this fight, after all this is his natural weight and Oscar is going up, although he has fought 2x already. But he do look small in this division but he has power specially in his left hand. On the other hand, Stevenson is a defensive fighter as I have said, and good body puncher, but the odds doesn't do any justice for Oscar Valdez as he is also a champion.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez 130-pound Title Unification Fight
Post by: Kemarit on March 05, 2022, 08:54:45 AM
Shakur Stevenson's defensive strategy is unmatched, let's see what Oscar Valdez does to destroy it and take advantage of his powerful punch. From the look of it, Oscar Valdez has the upper hand here but his skills will not be counted if he doesn't land any powerful punches to Shakur. He needs to some up with a smooth strategy and it won't be easy for an ordinary boxer but I know Valdez with his experiences can execute it well.
And yet Oscar Valdez is the underdog in this fight? So are gamblers putting defense first against a powerful puncher? Nevertheless maybe Stevenson could be a defensive puncher, but he can also dishes out some good punch output and can counter Valdez in this fight. So we will see which one is going to execute their strategy to the perfection in order to win this fight.
In boxing both things must occur in a boxer to be integral, Valdez's technique and experience is something that cannot be denied, besides that he is a boxer who for me is complete, we cannot say that Shakur does not know what his opponent is like , I'm sure Shakur already knows how to fight against him, and yes, Shakur may be stronger or maybe he looks a little stronger, even so I wouldn't know how to say that he's worth more here'? The experience? Strength, maybe defense? but in boxing it is usually like soccer, the one who scores first has a great advantage, Valdez is very complete and I would bet much more on him for his punch, but if Shakur knows how to fight him well, things change in a big way, and he can give The surprise.
I would agree that Stevenson might be the stronger dude in this fight, after all this is his natural weight and Oscar is going up, although he has fought 2x already. But he do look small in this division but he has power specially in his left hand. On the other hand, Stevenson is a defensive fighter as I have said, and good body puncher, but the odds doesn't do any justice for Oscar Valdez as he is also a champion.

But Oscar Valdez has proven that he can bring his power to this division. Maybe the odds maker look at Oscar's previous fight, as he doesn't look good at it. While Stevenson dominated Jamel Herring, another champion.

Nevertheless, this will be an exciting fight as this has been brewing for years as Shakur. So we will see another unification fight this year.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez 130-pound Title Unification Fight
Post by: Dave1 on March 08, 2022, 09:25:15 PM
Shakur Stevenson's defensive strategy is unmatched, let's see what Oscar Valdez does to destroy it and take advantage of his powerful punch. From the look of it, Oscar Valdez has the upper hand here but his skills will not be counted if he doesn't land any powerful punches to Shakur. He needs to some up with a smooth strategy and it won't be easy for an ordinary boxer but I know Valdez with his experiences can execute it well.
And yet Oscar Valdez is the underdog in this fight? So are gamblers putting defense first against a powerful puncher? Nevertheless maybe Stevenson could be a defensive puncher, but he can also dishes out some good punch output and can counter Valdez in this fight. So we will see which one is going to execute their strategy to the perfection in order to win this fight.
In boxing both things must occur in a boxer to be integral, Valdez's technique and experience is something that cannot be denied, besides that he is a boxer who for me is complete, we cannot say that Shakur does not know what his opponent is like , I'm sure Shakur already knows how to fight against him, and yes, Shakur may be stronger or maybe he looks a little stronger, even so I wouldn't know how to say that he's worth more here'? The experience? Strength, maybe defense? but in boxing it is usually like soccer, the one who scores first has a great advantage, Valdez is very complete and I would bet much more on him for his punch, but if Shakur knows how to fight him well, things change in a big way, and he can give The surprise.
I would agree that Stevenson might be the stronger dude in this fight, after all this is his natural weight and Oscar is going up, although he has fought 2x already. But he do look small in this division but he has power specially in his left hand. On the other hand, Stevenson is a defensive fighter as I have said, and good body puncher, but the odds doesn't do any justice for Oscar Valdez as he is also a champion.

But Oscar Valdez has proven that he can bring his power to this division. Maybe the odds maker look at Oscar's previous fight, as he doesn't look good at it. While Stevenson dominated Jamel Herring, another champion.

Nevertheless, this will be an exciting fight as this has been brewing for years as Shakur. So we will see another unification fight this year.

But he was caught with a ban substance so that power might be questionable because we can speculate that it has something to do with that peds.

While Shakur had a good performance against the much touted Herring, although if I'm not mistaken he is the slight favourite in that fight but Herring has some physical advantages that he negated early with his good defense and then accurate punching in the middle of the rounds.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez 130-pound Title Unification Fight
Post by: Hypnosis00 on March 09, 2022, 03:11:38 PM
although if I'm not mistaken he is the slight favourite in that fight but Herring has some physical advantages that he negated early with his good defense and then accurate punching in the middle of the rounds.

No, he was actually the heavy favorite in that fight.

source (https://www.cbssports.com/boxing/news/jamel-herring-vs-shakur-stevenson-odds-picks-predictions-boxing-insider-reveals-best-bets-for-oct-23/#:~:text=The%20latest%20Stevenson%20vs.,Herring%20is%20the%20%2B700%20underdog.)
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The latest Stevenson vs. Herring odds from Caesars Sportsbook list Stevenson as the -1100 favorite (risk $1,100 to win $100), while Herring is the +700 underdog.

Actually I thought that Herring had a shot in that fight but it was wrong because Stevenson completely dominated the fight and the bookmakers were never wrong in setting up the odds.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez 130-pound Title Unification Fight
Post by: Yaunfitda on March 09, 2022, 06:27:36 PM
although if I'm not mistaken he is the slight favourite in that fight but Herring has some physical advantages that he negated early with his good defense and then accurate punching in the middle of the rounds.

No, he was actually the heavy favorite in that fight.

source (https://www.cbssports.com/boxing/news/jamel-herring-vs-shakur-stevenson-odds-picks-predictions-boxing-insider-reveals-best-bets-for-oct-23/#:~:text=The%20latest%20Stevenson%20vs.,Herring%20is%20the%20%2B700%20underdog.)
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The latest Stevenson vs. Herring odds from Caesars Sportsbook list Stevenson as the -1100 favorite (risk $1,100 to win $100), while Herring is the +700 underdog.

Actually I thought that Herring had a shot in that fight but it was wrong because Stevenson completely dominated the fight and the bookmakers were never wrong in setting up the odds.
I agree, with the way Herring is dominating his opponents and getting the belt, it seems that it will be a tight contest between the two. But Shakur is really that smart in their fight, he didn't allow himself to get on a slug fest in the beginning and content to counter the long and physical advantage of Herring. And this is the reason why is he is favorite against Oscar. But as I have said, Valdez is also a champion so maybe the odds should be close.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez 130-pound Title Unification Fight
Post by: bisdak40 on March 09, 2022, 09:43:59 PM
Checking the odds st sportbet, I'm still at awe as how Stevenson seems to be the outstanding favourite in this fight, 1.23 ML against Oscar Valdez 3.75 ML.

So for Oscar Valdez fight fans out there, this is a perfect opportunity to put money line on your guy because the odds are very attractive right now. It will definitely change, but at least at this odds, you will have a good returns at this line might change as the fight date gets closer.

Sports bookies have put a premium on defense, I mean they really think that Shakur has a high chance of winning against Valdez.

I agree, this is a good opportunity to bet on Oscar if you are a fan of him but we should also consider/analyze their last fights so that we have a good rationale on why we are betting on them.

Against Miguel Berchelt, Oscar looked too good and he brutally knocked him out but it's due to the fact that the former is not a defensive fighter and no much head movement which is so opposite against Shakur.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez 130-pound Title Unification Fight
Post by: Baofeng on March 11, 2022, 09:51:00 AM
Here is the face-off:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJJXUBHF9Gc

Damn, Bob Arum really looks old, hehehehe, Shakur is the obvious bigger guy so no wonder why he is the favorite in this fight.

Valdez though said that he is affected by the negative news, calling him cheater and other stuff..

So we will see, Shakur commented though that Oscar has a big head, so he will target that, lol.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez 130-pound Title Unification Fight
Post by: YOSHIE on March 11, 2022, 10:21:32 AM
A knockout artist vs defense oriented fighter, who will prevail?
They both can be said to be professional class boxers, yes this is a box worth betting on, I see Shakur vs Oscar have signed a contract for 30th April, both of their managers have confirmed this too, I hope Shakur vs. Oscars could be a good start, as they haven't bet in a long time.

Maybe I should side with Shakur this time and my bet is for him, of course I have reasons for that why I have to stand up for Shakur, I am also a Shakur fan for now.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez 130-pound Title Unification Fight
Post by: dimonstration on March 11, 2022, 10:35:10 AM
Here is the face-off:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJJXUBHF9Gc

Damn, Bob Arum really looks old, hehehehe, Shakur is the obvious bigger guy so no wonder why he is the favorite in this fight.

Valdez though said that he is affected by the negative news, calling him cheater and other stuff..

So we will see, Shakur commented though that Oscar has a big head, so he will target that, lol.

Shakur is obviously taunting Oscar since he know that he is the crowd favorite and he is hungry for this match because he keeps following Valdez title while Valdez keeps dodging him by going to higher weight class and vacating his title. This match is actually surprising considering how underdog Valdez to Shakir while Valdez keeps choosing a mismatch opponent. I will definitely go for Shakir on this match because he was proven unstoppable despite many strong opponents he faced in his previous match. Valdez face is easy to bleed a hard puncher like Shakir will gonna have a frenzy time chasing him inside the ring.

This is definitely a mismatch IMHO.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez 130-pound Title Unification Fight
Post by: AicecreaME on March 11, 2022, 11:36:45 AM
Oscar Valdez would definitely win this fight for sure. Offensive boxer has much more chances of winning because boxing is about scoring points, not surviving the entire 12 rounds that focuses only on defending. Offensive players are both good in offense and defense, that's why Oscar Valdez has 77% of knockout power, bigger than Shakur Stevenson.

This fight won't be easily end but I can see already Oscar Valdez throwing solid punches that lands perfectly on Shakur Stevenson.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez 130-pound Title Unification Fight
Post by: Kemarit on March 11, 2022, 07:55:47 PM
Oscar Valdez would definitely win this fight for sure. Offensive boxer has much more chances of winning because boxing is about scoring points, not surviving the entire 12 rounds that focuses only on defending. Offensive players are both good in offense and defense, that's why Oscar Valdez has 77% of knockout power, bigger than Shakur Stevenson.

This fight won't be easily end but I can see already Oscar Valdez throwing solid punches that lands perfectly on Shakur Stevenson.

I think it will be a good but tough match for both fighters. They have their own strengths and weaknesses and each one of them wanted to take advantage of it. So the classic fight, offensive and volume puncher as opposed to a defensive fighter but with good power in both hands. So whoever dictates the fight early will win this game. So in case you are not aware of, Valdez is the underdog in this fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez 130-pound Title Unification Fight
Post by: Vaculin on March 11, 2022, 08:30:34 PM
Oscar Valdez would definitely win this fight for sure. Offensive boxer has much more chances of winning because boxing is about scoring points, not surviving the entire 12 rounds that focuses only on defending. Offensive players are both good in offense and defense, that's why Oscar Valdez has 77% of knockout power, bigger than Shakur Stevenson.

This fight won't be easily end but I can see already Oscar Valdez throwing solid punches that lands perfectly on Shakur Stevenson.

I think it will be a good but tough match for both fighters. They have their own strengths and weaknesses and each one of them wanted to take advantage of it. So the classic fight, offensive and volume puncher as opposed to a defensive fighter but with good power in both hands. So whoever dictates the fight early will win this game. So in case you are not aware of, Valdez is the underdog in this fight.

Yes, he is the underdog of this fight, but I believe he is the volume puncher with 23 KOs from 30 wins. Also, experience-wise, Valdez has the edge, so I don't understand why bookies made him the underdog of this fight, but of course, who would complain out there? for sure this will be taken advantage of by the Valdez backers as this offers great betting odds for him.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez 130-pound Title Unification Fight
Post by: ajochems on March 11, 2022, 10:09:09 PM
Both of this players game was good.My wish on this game was Oscar Valdez.Oscar attacking match was quite impressive one.Not all the players will have this type of attacking style.When the gun started to trigger, it will not end at any concern.Likewise the score points of Oscar will not going to stop against the Shakur.To know the unification fight, we need to wait a little more.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez 130-pound Title Unification Fight
Post by: bisdak40 on March 11, 2022, 10:44:47 PM
Shakur is obviously taunting Oscar since he know that he is the crowd favorite and he is hungry for this match because he keeps following Valdez title while Valdez keeps dodging him by going to higher weight class and vacating his title. This match is actually surprising considering how underdog Valdez to Shakir while Valdez keeps choosing a mismatch opponent. I will definitely go for Shakir on this match because he was proven unstoppable despite many strong opponents he faced in his previous match. Valdez face is easy to bleed a hard puncher like Shakir will gonna have a frenzy time chasing him inside the ring.

This is definitely a mismatch IMHO.

Blame Uncle Bob for it all  ;D.

Top Rank is building Valdez and TBH I'm quite surprised on this move the Top Rank to have this match early as we have seen in the past how they manage the career of their boxers where they pit their best when they are not in their peaks.

IMO, this is not a mismatch, Shakur is just the favorite because of his defensive style of boxing but one power punch could change it all in boxing and we all know that Valdez has that kind of power that could change the outcome of the match if given the opportunity.




Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez 130-pound Title Unification Fight
Post by: TimeTeller on March 11, 2022, 10:57:47 PM
Shakur is obviously taunting Oscar since he know that he is the crowd favorite and he is hungry for this match because he keeps following Valdez title while Valdez keeps dodging him by going to higher weight class and vacating his title. This match is actually surprising considering how underdog Valdez to Shakir while Valdez keeps choosing a mismatch opponent. I will definitely go for Shakir on this match because he was proven unstoppable despite many strong opponents he faced in his previous match. Valdez face is easy to bleed a hard puncher like Shakir will gonna have a frenzy time chasing him inside the ring.

This is definitely a mismatch IMHO.

Blame Uncle Bob for it all  ;D.

Top Rank is building Valdez and TBH I'm quite surprised on this move the Top Rank to have this match early as we have seen in the past how they manage the career of their boxers where they pit their best when they are not in their peaks.

IMO, this is not a mismatch, Shakur is just the favorite because of his defensive style of boxing but one power punch could change it all in boxing and we all know that Valdez has that kind of power that could change the outcome of the match if given the opportunity.

Promoters are highly considering how much money they can generate from the fight.
So maybe Top Rank is seeing that this match will give them good revenue and they need that money because of the long break in the past couple of years.
They won't make this fight happen if they are not seeing something profitable for this match.
But as far as I know, a lot of boxing fans don't like a defensive style because it is too boring. A lot still want a toe-to-toe fight as much as possible.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez 130-pound Title Unification Fight
Post by: Kemarit on March 12, 2022, 05:14:03 AM
Checking the odds st sportbet, I'm still at awe as how Stevenson seems to be the outstanding favourite in this fight, 1.23 ML against Oscar Valdez 3.75 ML.

So for Oscar Valdez fight fans out there, this is a perfect opportunity to put money line on your guy because the odds are very attractive right now. It will definitely change, but at least at this odds, you will have a good returns at this line might change as the fight date gets closer.

Sports bookies have put a premium on defense, I mean they really think that Shakur has a high chance of winning against Valdez.

Could be, I mean Shakur could be a good defensive boxer, but he hasn't fight anyone as explosive as Oscar Valdez.

I agree, this is a good opportunity to bet on Oscar if you are a fan of him but we should also consider/analyze their last fights so that we have a good rationale on why we are betting on them.

Against Miguel Berchelt, Oscar looked too good and he brutally knocked him out but it's due to the fact that the former is not a defensive fighter and no much head movement which is so opposite against Shakur.

It's a good performance by Oscar against Berchelt and it really put his name on this division. He have defended his belt but with some controversy. Nevertheless this will be another perfect opportunity for him to redeem him name against another champion. So yes, for Valdez fans or at least who loves to bet on a live underdog, this is another good and attractive bet.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez 130-pound Title Unification Fight
Post by: Dave1 on March 12, 2022, 05:17:20 AM
Shakur is obviously taunting Oscar since he know that he is the crowd favorite and he is hungry for this match because he keeps following Valdez title while Valdez keeps dodging him by going to higher weight class and vacating his title. This match is actually surprising considering how underdog Valdez to Shakir while Valdez keeps choosing a mismatch opponent. I will definitely go for Shakir on this match because he was proven unstoppable despite many strong opponents he faced in his previous match. Valdez face is easy to bleed a hard puncher like Shakir will gonna have a frenzy time chasing him inside the ring.

This is definitely a mismatch IMHO.

Blame Uncle Bob for it all  ;D.

Top Rank is building Valdez and TBH I'm quite surprised on this move the Top Rank to have this match early as we have seen in the past how they manage the career of their boxers where they pit their best when they are not in their peaks.

IMO, this is not a mismatch, Shakur is just the favorite because of his defensive style of boxing but one power punch could change it all in boxing and we all know that Valdez has that kind of power that could change the outcome of the match if given the opportunity.

Make sense for Uncle Bob to have this fight,  in house money and whoever wins, still good for him. And if either is damage after that fight, he can still promote him and still make money. And who knows, the loser might be extra motivated to proved himself against the best in the future. So nothing to lose for Bob Arum and you will see how cunning his mind is even though he is already like 90 years old.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez 130-pound Title Unification Fight
Post by: bisdak40 on March 12, 2022, 10:41:15 PM
They won't make this fight happen if they are not seeing something profitable for this match.
But as far as I know, a lot of boxing fans don't like a defensive style because it is too boring. A lot still want a toe-to-toe fight as much as possible.

This is a unification so I believe that revenue for this fight would be huge. Shakur may be a favorite in the bookies but I will agree with you that most of the fight fans don't like defensive fighters as they are often boring to watch.

Hardcore fans of the sweet science are the real winners for this upcoming fight as we are about to witness a battle where both fighters have zero lose and vying for that unified belt, seldom we can see that nowadays with this boxing politics.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez 130-pound Title Unification Fight
Post by: Kemarit on March 13, 2022, 03:41:48 AM
They won't make this fight happen if they are not seeing something profitable for this match.
But as far as I know, a lot of boxing fans don't like a defensive style because it is too boring. A lot still want a toe-to-toe fight as much as possible.

This is a unification so I believe that revenue for this fight would be huge. Shakur may be a favorite in the bookies but I will agree with you that most of the fight fans don't like defensive fighters as they are often boring to watch.

Probably in terms of money, millions should be on the line here, as you have said, both are champion and their belt are on the line in this fight.

Hardcore fans of the sweet science are the real winners for this upcoming fight as we are about to witness a battle where both fighters have zero lose and vying for that unified belt, seldom we can see that nowadays with this boxing politics.

Yes, at least the fight has been made by Arum and didn't wait for Valdez to have another tune up fight before going after Shakur. And it just so happen that they are under Bob Arum that's why there are no boxing politics so fans are going to see another great fight early this year.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez 130-pound Title Unification Fight
Post by: stadus on March 13, 2022, 02:28:44 PM
Yes, at least the fight has been made by Arum and didn't wait for Valdez to have another tune up fight before going after Shakur. And it just so happen that they are under Bob Arum that's why there are no boxing politics so fans are going to see another great fight early this year.
I agree this should be a great fight as both fighters are in their prime, it's the best of the best and I'm expecting it will be a bloody fight knowing Valdez who's very aggressive and would always go for the knockout. 23 KOs means he is a tough fighter, and not losing a single fight in his career is something especial for a boxer who is never afraid to face anyone that will be put in front of him.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez 130-pound Title Unification Fight
Post by: Kemarit on March 14, 2022, 07:05:31 AM
Yes, at least the fight has been made by Arum and didn't wait for Valdez to have another tune up fight before going after Shakur. And it just so happen that they are under Bob Arum that's why there are no boxing politics so fans are going to see another great fight early this year.
I agree this should be a great fight as both fighters are in their prime, it's the best of the best and I'm expecting it will be a bloody fight knowing Valdez who's very aggressive and would always go for the knockout. 23 KOs means he is a tough fighter, and not losing a single fight in his career is something especial for a boxer who is never afraid to face anyone that will be put in front of him.

Exactly, either one of them are not going to back out of the challenges, they wanted this fight for so long and it's fitting now that they have the belts and coming off from a great win. Valdez is the more aggressive fighter of the two, but Shakur count on his defensive skills and counter punching. So their respective trainer should have a game plan in paper and let us see if their fighters can execute and then readjust as the fight goes on.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez 130-pound Title Unification Fight
Post by: bittraffic on March 14, 2022, 12:29:21 PM
Shakur is obviously taunting Oscar since he know that he is the crowd favorite and he is hungry for this match because he keeps following Valdez title while Valdez keeps dodging him by going to higher weight class and vacating his title. This match is actually surprising considering how underdog Valdez to Shakir while Valdez keeps choosing a mismatch opponent. I will definitely go for Shakir on this match because he was proven unstoppable despite many strong opponents he faced in his previous match. Valdez face is easy to bleed a hard puncher like Shakir will gonna have a frenzy time chasing him inside the ring.

This is definitely a mismatch IMHO.

Blame Uncle Bob for it all  ;D.

Top Rank is building Valdez and TBH I'm quite surprised on this move the Top Rank to have this match early as we have seen in the past how they manage the career of their boxers where they pit their best when they are not in their peaks.

IMO, this is not a mismatch, Shakur is just the favorite because of his defensive style of boxing but one power punch could change it all in boxing and we all know that Valdez has that kind of power that could change the outcome of the match if given the opportunity.

Promoters are highly considering how much money they can generate from the fight.
So maybe Top Rank is seeing that this match will give them good revenue and they need that money because of the long break in the past couple of years.
They won't make this fight happen if they are not seeing something profitable for this match.
But as far as I know, a lot of boxing fans don't like a defensive style because it is too boring. A lot still want a toe-to-toe fight as much as possible.

Most of us just wanted to see the boxer right on standing in the middle throwing fists. That's why we want someone like Valdez in the ring but Judges and Analysts probably are not seeing it that way. When they see a fast defensive fighter like Floyd or Shakur. We don't appreciate it that much but fighters themselves like to see how a boxer avoids clashing in the middle but wants to score by outsmarting opponents. I still believe Valdez to succeed in this match, hope to bet big next month.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez 130-pound Title Unification Fight
Post by: Botnake on March 14, 2022, 12:37:45 PM

Most of us just wanted to see the boxer right on standing in the middle throwing fists.
Because that's why makes a boxing match entertaining to watch, not like a marathon where one boxer is running while the other is chasing.  :)

That's why we want someone like Valdez in the ring but Judges and Analysts probably are not seeing it that way. When they see a fast defensive fighter like Floyd or Shakur. We don't appreciate it that much but fighters themselves like to see how a boxer avoids clashing in the middle but wants to score by outsmarting opponents. I still believe Valdez to succeed in this match, hope to bet big next month.
Well, Valdez has to find a way to beat his opponent if he displayed a good defensive skill, in the end, it's still not the most entertaining boxer who would win but the one who hit his opponent more than he gets hit, that's boxing, that's the sport we are watching.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez 130-pound Title Unification Fight
Post by: Viscore on March 14, 2022, 03:20:36 PM
Well, Valdez has to find a way to beat his opponent if he displayed a good defensive skill, in the end, it's still not the most entertaining boxer who would win but the one who hit his opponent more than he gets hit, that's boxing, that's the sport we are watching.

Based on the betting odds, Stevenson is the heavy favorite to win. I'm surprised but that's how the bookies see this fight.

From this article, https://www.givemesport.com/87982471-oscar-valdez-vs-shakur-stevenson-betting-odds-what-are-they-currently ...  odds are as follows.

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Betting Odds
PaddyPower currently has odds on the outright winner of the Junior Lightweight Title unification bout, and they are as follows:

Valdez to win: 11/4
Steveson to win: 1/4
Draw: 20/1

For Valdez bettors, the odds is very enticing, gett 2.75 (in decimal format) as a return of your money if you win is already good.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez 130-pound Title Unification Fight
Post by: btc_angela on March 14, 2022, 08:33:21 PM
Well, Valdez has to find a way to beat his opponent if he displayed a good defensive skill, in the end, it's still not the most entertaining boxer who would win but the one who hit his opponent more than he gets hit, that's boxing, that's the sport we are watching.

Based on the betting odds, Stevenson is the heavy favorite to win. I'm surprised but that's how the bookies see this fight.

From this article, https://www.givemesport.com/87982471-oscar-valdez-vs-shakur-stevenson-betting-odds-what-are-they-currently ...  odds are as follows.

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Betting Odds
PaddyPower currently has odds on the outright winner of the Junior Lightweight Title unification bout, and they are as follows:

Valdez to win: 11/4
Steveson to win: 1/4
Draw: 20/1

For Valdez bettors, the odds is very enticing, gett 2.75 (in decimal format) as a return of your money if you win is already good.

Yep, but sometimes bookies are wrong though in their odds making, so imagine Valdez being an underdog wherein he can pull and win this fight even with a knock out because he has power in both hands. So no worries for Valdez fans, they can easily pull the trigger in this one because of the odds and for sure maybe some whales are going to put a lot of big money on Valdez winning this fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez 130-pound Title Unification Fight
Post by: TimeTeller on March 14, 2022, 08:43:53 PM
Well, Valdez has to find a way to beat his opponent if he displayed a good defensive skill, in the end, it's still not the most entertaining boxer who would win but the one who hit his opponent more than he gets hit, that's boxing, that's the sport we are watching.

Based on the betting odds, Stevenson is the heavy favorite to win. I'm surprised but that's how the bookies see this fight.

From this article, https://www.givemesport.com/87982471-oscar-valdez-vs-shakur-stevenson-betting-odds-what-are-they-currently ...  odds are as follows.

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Betting Odds
PaddyPower currently has odds on the outright winner of the Junior Lightweight Title unification bout, and they are as follows:

Valdez to win: 11/4
Steveson to win: 1/4
Draw: 20/1

For Valdez bettors, the odds is very enticing, gett 2.75 (in decimal format) as a return of your money if you win is already good.

Yep, but sometimes bookies are wrong though in their odds making, so imagine Valdez being an underdog wherein he can pull and win this fight even with a knock out because he has power in both hands. So no worries for Valdez fans, they can easily pull the trigger in this one because of the odds and for sure maybe some whales are going to put a lot of big money on Valdez winning this fight.

Anyone is free to place their bets here, so take advantage if you feel the bookies are making a mistake on putting Valdez as underdog.
Some casinos are even giving Valdez odds at 3.75, so yes, this one is very attractive if you believe Valdez has high chance of winning.
Remember, not all the time that casinos are right. How many upsets have we seen in the past few months in the sports of boxing?
This will be your chance to earn good money if you are right with Valdez. So place your bets now while the odds are good.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez 130-pound Title Unification Fight
Post by: jhonjhon on March 16, 2022, 03:56:17 AM
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Date: April 30, 2022
Venue: Lase Vegas

This fight is one of the most awaited fight for this year.

A knockout artist vs defense oriented fighter, who will prevail?

Though odds are not available yet as of this writing but i have a gut feeling the Oscar Valdez will be the slight favorite as he is the more experienced of the two.

What's your thoughts on this?

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Shakur Stevenson and Oscar Valdez have agreed to a deal for a 130-pound title unification fight on April 30 in Las Vegas, sources told ESPN on Wednesday.

https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/33080137/shakur-stevenson-oscar-valdez-working-finalize-title-unification-fight-sources-say
It looks like they're both determine with their coming fight, and i feel it interesting. I think this fight will be a war, a wont boring at all. Oscar Valdez will bring it and so will Shakur. I saw Shakurs' last fight and his opponent are no challenge. So i think he's gonna win this fight. Valdez is good but he's not on Shakurs level .

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dazn.com/en-PH/news/amp/boxing/shakur-stevenson-vs-oscar-valdez-title-unification-set-for-april-30/96mpm32p27o312h19ylj4um13

“I have been chasing this fight for nearly three years since we were both at featherweight," Stevenson said in a press release. "On April 30, I’m going to show him and the world why he ducked me all this time. I’m the best young fighter in the world, and I will become unified champion.”

Valdez's heard what Stevenson's been saying about him and vows to quiet him once and for all.

"I want to make it clear that I am the best 130-pound fighter in the world,” Valdez said. “We know Shakur Stevenson is very good at fighting, but he's even better at social media. I'll let my fists speak for themselves.”


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez 130-pound Title Unification Fight
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on March 17, 2022, 07:51:37 PM
Well, Valdez has to find a way to beat his opponent if he displayed a good defensive skill, in the end, it's still not the most entertaining boxer who would win but the one who hit his opponent more than he gets hit, that's boxing, that's the sport we are watching.

Based on the betting odds, Stevenson is the heavy favorite to win. I'm surprised but that's how the bookies see this fight.

From this article, https://www.givemesport.com/87982471-oscar-valdez-vs-shakur-stevenson-betting-odds-what-are-they-currently ...  odds are as follows.

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Betting Odds
PaddyPower currently has odds on the outright winner of the Junior Lightweight Title unification bout, and they are as follows:

Valdez to win: 11/4
Steveson to win: 1/4
Draw: 20/1

For Valdez bettors, the odds is very enticing, gett 2.75 (in decimal format) as a return of your money if you win is already good.

Yep, but sometimes bookies are wrong though in their odds making, so imagine Valdez being an underdog wherein he can pull and win this fight even with a knock out because he has power in both hands. So no worries for Valdez fans, they can easily pull the trigger in this one because of the odds and for sure maybe some whales are going to put a lot of big money on Valdez winning this fight.
Well this is something that has many in uncertainty, on the one hand Stevenson has potential and a strong punch, if I were Valdez I would be careful with his right hook, it is really strong, on the other hand Valdez has a solid defense and to find that in boxing with stevenson-style opponents is something extraordinary, if many whales go in favor of Valdez it must be because of something they know, perhaps privileged information, because making a bet on me right now the truth is not I would know, previously I was much more inclined towards Stevenson, but now I have doubts, Valdez may be the surprise.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez 130-pound Title Unification Fight
Post by: TravelMug on March 18, 2022, 05:35:30 AM
^^ Valdez though is known to have a crazy left hook as well, this is his main weapon now, he used it against Berchelt in their fight to knock him out. That's why this fight is going to be very interesting as both could land solid punch against each other and we will see who's chin and body are going to hold in the end. But so far Stevenson remains to be the favorite to win this fight base on the odds but this can't be for certain as Valdez is also been tested many times and won the fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez 130-pound Title Unification Fight
Post by: Kemarit on March 20, 2022, 07:12:14 AM
^^ Valdez though is known to have a crazy left hook as well, this is his main weapon now, he used it against Berchelt in their fight to knock him out.

Shakur knows what Valdez main weapon is, potentially he has an approach on how to negate it or at least counter with his own body shots.

That's why this fight is going to be very interesting as both could land solid punch against each other and we will see who's chin and body are going to hold in the end. But so far Stevenson remains to be the favorite to win this fight base on the odds but this can't be for certain as Valdez is also been tested many times and won the fight.

Their style will really be shown in this fight, a defensive boxer against a offensive fighter. We will know which one will prevail and what kind of style it is. It could go to 12 rounds or this could fight wouldn't last if they decided to fight mano a mano in the center.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez 130-pound Title Unification Fight
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on March 25, 2022, 01:30:24 PM
^^ Valdez though is known to have a crazy left hook as well, this is his main weapon now, he used it against Berchelt in their fight to knock him out.

Shakur knows what Valdez main weapon is, potentially he has an approach on how to negate it or at least counter with his own body shots.

That's why this fight is going to be very interesting as both could land solid punch against each other and we will see who's chin and body are going to hold in the end. But so far Stevenson remains to be the favorite to win this fight base on the odds but this can't be for certain as Valdez is also been tested many times and won the fight.

Their style will really be shown in this fight, a defensive boxer against a offensive fighter. We will know which one will prevail and what kind of style it is. It could go to 12 rounds or this could fight wouldn't last if they decided to fight mano a mano in the center.
You are right, by pure logic when a boxer has a right or left hook as his main lethal weapon, what he has to do is firstly avoid that side and secondly look for the weak point, and I think that if it is good that he seeks to attack his torso and above all for On the side of the ribs, it is the only way he can have to defend himself better.

However, he can appeal to trust his own instinct and face him without fear to his left and he would be showing that he is not afraid of anything, even Valdez himself who is irreverent to them.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez 130-pound Title Unification Fight
Post by: bisdak40 on March 25, 2022, 10:10:38 PM
^^ Valdez though is known to have a crazy left hook as well, this is his main weapon now, he used it against Berchelt in their fight to knock him out. That's why this fight is going to be very interesting as both could land solid punch against each other and we will see who's chin and body are going to hold in the end. But so far Stevenson remains to be the favorite to win this fight base on the odds but this can't be for certain as Valdez is also been tested many times and won the fight.

Between the two, Valdez is far superior in terms of experience IMO but what separates Shakur from the past opponents of Valdez is his agility and his defensive skill, which may be the reason why online bookies have put him the favorite to get the W in this fight. Shakur's chin has not been tested thus far and I'm pretty sure that Valdez's power punch could break this so this is what makes this fight interesting as the underdog has a very good chance of winning.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez 130-pound Title Unification Fight
Post by: TravelMug on March 26, 2022, 04:10:04 AM
^^ Valdez though is known to have a crazy left hook as well, this is his main weapon now, he used it against Berchelt in their fight to knock him out. That's why this fight is going to be very interesting as both could land solid punch against each other and we will see who's chin and body are going to hold in the end. But so far Stevenson remains to be the favorite to win this fight base on the odds but this can't be for certain as Valdez is also been tested many times and won the fight.

Between the two, Valdez is far superior in terms of experience IMO but what separates Shakur from the past opponents of Valdez is his agility and his defensive skill, which may be the reason why online bookies have put him the favorite to get the W in this fight. Shakur's chin has not been tested thus far and I'm pretty sure that Valdez's power punch could break this so this is what makes this fight interesting as the underdog has a very good chance of winning.

True, he has a solid defense, but could it be enough to balance and put it on his favor against a aggressive Valdez?

So we want to see Valdez touching that chin and see if it will hold or will it break because of the power or the accumulation of punches from Valdez.

Or if Valdez can break Shakur's defense, or Shakur overwhelming Valdez with body shots because that's what he is known for. Truly opposing style that there's a lot of scenario and speculation right now as to how the fight will go.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez 130-pound Title Unification Fight
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on March 31, 2022, 02:25:00 PM
^^ Valdez though is known to have a crazy left hook as well, this is his main weapon now, he used it against Berchelt in their fight to knock him out. That's why this fight is going to be very interesting as both could land solid punch against each other and we will see who's chin and body are going to hold in the end. But so far Stevenson remains to be the favorite to win this fight base on the odds but this can't be for certain as Valdez is also been tested many times and won the fight.

Between the two, Valdez is far superior in terms of experience IMO but what separates Shakur from the past opponents of Valdez is his agility and his defensive skill, which may be the reason why online bookies have put him the favorite to get the W in this fight. Shakur's chin has not been tested thus far and I'm pretty sure that Valdez's power punch could break this so this is what makes this fight interesting as the underdog has a very good chance of winning.

True, he has a solid defense, but could it be enough to balance and put it on his favor against a aggressive Valdez?

So we want to see Valdez touching that chin and see if it will hold or will it break because of the power or the accumulation of punches from Valdez.

Or if Valdez can break Shakur's defense, or Shakur overwhelming Valdez with body shots because that's what he is known for. Truly opposing style that there's a lot of scenario and speculation right now as to how the fight will go.
Most always highlight Valdez's left hook and there is something that not many know about people who handle their left very well or athletes who are left-handed, these types of athletes tend to think faster than a right-handed person, no I know the effect that right-handed boxers have but I know that left-handed boxers have more reaction speed, so this is a point in favor of Valdez, the SHAKUR chin thing is not just any myth, this is something obvious, although the truth I no longer dare to give a prognosis from that clear evidence, Shakur must have a good plan to protect himself from it.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez 130-pound Title Unification Fight
Post by: Shamm on March 31, 2022, 02:46:25 PM
^^ Valdez though is known to have a crazy left hook as well, this is his main weapon now, he used it against Berchelt in their fight to knock him out. That's why this fight is going to be very interesting as both could land solid punch against each other and we will see who's chin and body are going to hold in the end. But so far Stevenson remains to be the favorite to win this fight base on the odds but this can't be for certain as Valdez is also been tested many times and won the fight.

Between the two, Valdez is far superior in terms of experience IMO but what separates Shakur from the past opponents of Valdez is his agility and his defensive skill, which may be the reason why online bookies have put him the favorite to get the W in this fight. Shakur's chin has not been tested thus far and I'm pretty sure that Valdez's power punch could break this so this is what makes this fight interesting as the underdog has a very good chance of winning.

 You are right that mate and I think that also Valdez is a good fighter in his division and has a strong stamina that must a fighter needs to fight until the last round of the fight. But we can not predict what will happen in this fight even though Shakur can not knockdown Valdez for sure what is his aiming for is to win this match against the champion and also he will trained hard and double his training to beat Valdez. It's hard to make a choice.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez 130-pound Title Unification Fight
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on April 15, 2022, 01:14:12 PM
^^ Valdez though is known to have a crazy left hook as well, this is his main weapon now, he used it against Berchelt in their fight to knock him out. That's why this fight is going to be very interesting as both could land solid punch against each other and we will see who's chin and body are going to hold in the end. But so far Stevenson remains to be the favorite to win this fight base on the odds but this can't be for certain as Valdez is also been tested many times and won the fight.

Between the two, Valdez is far superior in terms of experience IMO but what separates Shakur from the past opponents of Valdez is his agility and his defensive skill, which may be the reason why online bookies have put him the favorite to get the W in this fight. Shakur's chin has not been tested thus far and I'm pretty sure that Valdez's power punch could break this so this is what makes this fight interesting as the underdog has a very good chance of winning.

 You are right that mate and I think that also Valdez is a good fighter in his division and has a strong stamina that must a fighter needs to fight until the last round of the fight. But we can not predict what will happen in this fight even though Shakur can not knockdown Valdez for sure what is his aiming for is to win this match against the champion and also he will trained hard and double his training to beat Valdez. It's hard to make a choice.

I see the thread, every opinion, in fact I read it several times and I'm still not sure what I can extract to make a good bet, I have the point of view that Valdez has a lethal left hook, and I know that left-handed athletes are much more They are fast and have a strong punch, but on the other hand Shakur knows what is coming and it is not easy at all, he must already have his strategy, if he focuses on both fighters being able to turn this fight around, I would go I think for Valdez, if the fight were right now I would say Valdez for the simple fact that his left hook is lethal.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez 130-pound Title Unification Fight
Post by: kaya11 on April 15, 2022, 01:25:49 PM
These are on their prime, one of the best fighters in this generation of boxing. I would go for Stevenson on this one, I remember his fight between Herring and he gave decent blows to him before racking up points before the referee stepped in. These two boxers deserve each other, the first one to beak his defense will surely be in advance position.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez 130-pound Title Unification Fight
Post by: Smartprofit on April 19, 2022, 01:29:14 PM
Oscar Valdes is not a very eloquent person. 

This Mexican boxer does not like to talk in vain, but he knows how to fight well.  Silent boxers are the most dangerous boxers. 

One of the best boxing trainers in the world (Eddie Reynoso) teaches Oscar Valdez how to counter Shakur Stevenson's boxing tricks.  While Shakur boasts about his future victory, Oscar Valdez trains hard. 

In my opinion, Oscar Valdez will easily beat Shakur Stevenson.  Shakur is too frivolous about the upcoming fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez 130-pound Title Unification Fight
Post by: btc_angela on April 19, 2022, 01:34:39 PM
Oscar Valdes is not a very eloquent person. 

This Mexican boxer does not like to talk in vain, but he knows how to fight well.  Silent boxers are the most dangerous boxers. 

One of the best boxing trainers in the world (Eddie Reynoso) teaches Oscar Valdez how to counter Shakur Stevenson's boxing tricks.  While Shakur boasts about his future victory, Oscar Valdez trains hard. 

In my opinion, Oscar Valdez will easily beat Shakur Stevenson.  Shakur is too frivolous about the upcoming fight.

Maybe Shakur is very confident that he will destroy Oscar Valdez, after all he is the betting favorite if I'm not mistaken.

But yeah, there are boxers who doesn't talk that much but would rather to the work inside the ring. So this is still very close fight as both fighter are still in their prime. This is going to be another compelling fight for boxing fans.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez 130-pound Title Unification Fight
Post by: bisdak40 on April 19, 2022, 10:07:42 PM
Maybe Shakur is very confident that he will destroy Oscar Valdez, after all he is the betting favorite if I'm not mistaken.

But yeah, there are boxers who doesn't talk that much but would rather to the work inside the ring. So this is still very close fight as both fighter are still in their prime. This is going to be another compelling fight for boxing fans.

Shakur is still the favorite in this match, he is just too fast for Oscar Valdez, that's what the bookies are thinking and some boxing analysts as well. But we know that a single punch can slow down a fast Shakur so this one is an exciting fight as both are still in their prime and a powerful punch could turn the fight around so Shakur will have his guard up until the final bell rings if he wants to win this one.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez Title Unification Fight (April 30)
Post by: Jawhead999 on April 20, 2022, 06:48:51 AM
The odds for Stevenson is 1.16x, for me it's really small and doesn't worth to bet, I thought his odds around 1.50-2.00x. I think Valdez isn't in his prime anymore, that's why the bookie listed him as an underdog. I was impressed with his performance against Scott Quigg 4 years ago, even his jaw was broken... he still fight and won the fight. But his last fight against Conceicao, he's not perform well.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez Title Unification Fight (April 30)
Post by: Kemarit on April 20, 2022, 10:01:24 AM
The odds for Stevenson is 1.16x, for me it's really small and doesn't worth to bet, I thought his odds around 1.50-2.00x. I think Valdez isn't in his prime anymore, that's why the bookie listed him as an underdog. I was impressed with his performance against Scott Quigg 4 years ago, even his just was broken... he still fight and won the fight. But his last fight against Conceicao, he's not perform well.

Yes, I guess they rely on his performance against Conceicao, and then the allegations that he uses PED. But we will see if the odds are justified or not, I think Oscar Valdez still possessed one of the best left hook in this division.

Others might be surprised by the odds disparity including myself, but bookies have their own way on weighing the favorite and the underdog and hopefully this is not a trap if you put a huge amount of bet on Shakur for a ML win.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez Title Unification Fight (April 30)
Post by: Hypnosis00 on April 20, 2022, 10:23:25 AM
The odds for Stevenson is 1.16x, for me it's really small and doesn't worth to bet, I thought his odds around 1.50-2.00x. I think Valdez isn't in his prime anymore, that's why the bookie listed him as an underdog. I was impressed with his performance against Scott Quigg 4 years ago, even his just was broken... he still fight and won the fight. But his last fight against Conceicao, he's not perform well.

Yes, I guess they rely on his performance against Conceicao, and then the allegations that he uses PED. But we will see if the odds are justified or not, I think Oscar Valdez still possessed one of the best left hook in this division.

Others might be surprised by the odds disparity including myself, but bookies have their own way on weighing the favorite and the underdog and hopefully this is not a trap if you put a huge amount of bet on Shakur for a ML win.

Bookies could be wrong though, personally, I would still go on an exciting boxer, and I believe that Valdez is the exciting  boxer to watch here, he is very aggressive and he really fight to give the fans a full entertainment, hopefully that will pressure Stevenson to go toe to toe with Valdez.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez Title Unification Fight (April 30)
Post by: goldkingcoiner on April 20, 2022, 10:23:31 AM
Only 10 more days until the Stevenson vs Valdez title unification fight!

Stevenson said in a press release that he's going to show Valdez and the world why Oscar "ducked him all this time". Big words for a man with a head full of confidence. If he loses that is going to have an embarressing toll on his ego.

Honestly I can't really stand cocky quotes from fighters before the fight, but since he has been allegedly waiting over 3 years for this fight, I guess we can't really deny him his excitement.

Although I still think Valdez will win. Hes been 4-0 since moving up to 130 pounds, winning the WBC belt from Miguel Berchelt. Stevenson might get humiliated. ;D


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez Title Unification Fight (April 30)
Post by: Kemarit on April 21, 2022, 03:04:27 AM
The odds for Stevenson is 1.16x, for me it's really small and doesn't worth to bet, I thought his odds around 1.50-2.00x. I think Valdez isn't in his prime anymore, that's why the bookie listed him as an underdog. I was impressed with his performance against Scott Quigg 4 years ago, even his just was broken... he still fight and won the fight. But his last fight against Conceicao, he's not perform well.

Yes, I guess they rely on his performance against Conceicao, and then the allegations that he uses PED. But we will see if the odds are justified or not, I think Oscar Valdez still possessed one of the best left hook in this division.

Others might be surprised by the odds disparity including myself, but bookies have their own way on weighing the favorite and the underdog and hopefully this is not a trap if you put a huge amount of bet on Shakur for a ML win.

Bookies could be wrong though, personally, I would still go on an exciting boxer, and I believe that Valdez is the exciting  boxer to watch here, he is very aggressive and he really fight to give the fans a full entertainment, hopefully that will pressure Stevenson to go toe to toe with Valdez.

Yeah, that's what I'm trying to say, the style of Valdez is exciting, a brawler unlike Stevenson who is more of a defensive specialist.

So it's really surprises me as how a defensive fighter be the favorite.

But in any case, the smart gamblers will have to put a lot of money on Shakur, but for me, might be better to look for the underdog in this fight, IMHO.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez Title Unification Fight (April 30)
Post by: Maslate on April 21, 2022, 04:36:32 AM

But in any case, the smart gamblers will have to put a lot of money on Shakur, but for me, might be better to look for the underdog in this fight, IMHO.

You'll never know which is a smart bet until the fight is over.

Lots of boxing fights that an underdog won the fight, and there's no doubt that Oscar Valdez could potentially upset the favorite to win here because of his aggressiveness and his explosiveness, so personally, as to skills-wise, I believe that Stevenson has the edge but if he gets tired then Valdez will definitely win the fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez Title Unification Fight (April 30)
Post by: stadus on April 22, 2022, 04:14:00 PM
Only 10 more days until the Stevenson vs Valdez title unification fight!

Stevenson said in a press release that he's going to show Valdez and the world why Oscar "ducked him all this time". Big words for a man with a head full of confidence. If he loses that is going to have an embarressing toll on his ego.

Honestly I can't really stand cocky quotes from fighters before the fight, but since he has been allegedly waiting over 3 years for this fight, I guess we can't really deny him his excitement.

Although I still think Valdez will win. Hes been 4-0 since moving up to 130 pounds, winning the WBC belt from Miguel Berchelt. Stevenson might get humiliated. ;D

Shakur Stevenson is really that confident because he thinks that he can just have an easy fight towards the Mexican fighter, all he have is just a reach and height advantage while Valdez have the rest of the advantage like the power and KO capabilities. Judging by their past few fights, it really shows how Valdez is an exceptional fighter than the cocky Shakur. I hope he's not full of talks, 1 week left folks.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez 130-pound Title Unification Fight
Post by: Kasabus on April 22, 2022, 06:05:12 PM
Both fighters are battle-tested but I like Valdez aggressiveness and toughness I'm sure there will be thrash talks between the two, Valdez must win this fight convincingly to erase the Robson Conceição controversy and prove to the boxing fans that he is the real champion, there will be excitement in the build-up leading to this fight as both are champions.
Both fighters are equal and I'm sure it will be hard for bettors to figure out who is the big favorite

For the record, the controversy is that Valdez was caught with PEDs.

True, this is hard for bettors to decide where to put our money. As you have said, both are battle tested and coming from a win. And this is not just another fight as this is unification and I'm glad that both of this fighters have agreed.

I'm interested to see what will be the opening odds, as who will be the slight favorite.
This fight will definitely put us into deep thinking as who deserves our bet because from their boxing records, both have their impressive odds and certainly hardest punchers in the ring. But i think i am more impressed with Oscar Valdez, not only because of his high experience in boxing, but also for his aggressive fighting style that made him the world's best active super featherweight way back 2021. Nevertheless, Stevenson also got his own skill in the ring with his own fast hand speed and knockout power, but i think Oscar Valdez will win over Stevenson this time, just my thought.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez Title Unification Fight (April 30)
Post by: goldkingcoiner on April 22, 2022, 06:11:04 PM
Only 10 more days until the Stevenson vs Valdez title unification fight!

Stevenson said in a press release that he's going to show Valdez and the world why Oscar "ducked him all this time". Big words for a man with a head full of confidence. If he loses that is going to have an embarressing toll on his ego.

Honestly I can't really stand cocky quotes from fighters before the fight, but since he has been allegedly waiting over 3 years for this fight, I guess we can't really deny him his excitement.

Although I still think Valdez will win. Hes been 4-0 since moving up to 130 pounds, winning the WBC belt from Miguel Berchelt. Stevenson might get humiliated. ;D

Shakur Stevenson is really that confident because he thinks that he can just have an easy fight towards the Mexican fighter, all he have is just a reach and height advantage while Valdez have the rest of the advantage like the power and KO capabilities. Judging by their past few fights, it really shows how Valdez is an exceptional fighter than the cocky Shakur. I hope he's not full of talks, 1 week left folks.

I have not heard about Shakur Stevenson saying anything about being the better fighter than Valdez because of Valdez s Mexican heritage, however, if that's true, that would only make me cheer for Valdez, out of respect. Valdez is definitely an amazing fighter. I do not underestimate his mean hook.

Stevenson is not a very smart man, perhaps too many blows to the head made him simple?


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez Title Unification Fight (April 30)
Post by: Natalim on April 22, 2022, 06:30:30 PM
Only 10 more days until the Stevenson vs Valdez title unification fight!

Stevenson said in a press release that he's going to show Valdez and the world why Oscar "ducked him all this time". Big words for a man with a head full of confidence. If he loses that is going to have an embarressing toll on his ego.

Honestly I can't really stand cocky quotes from fighters before the fight, but since he has been allegedly waiting over 3 years for this fight, I guess we can't really deny him his excitement.

Although I still think Valdez will win. Hes been 4-0 since moving up to 130 pounds, winning the WBC belt from Miguel Berchelt. Stevenson might get humiliated. ;D

Shakur Stevenson is really that confident because he thinks that he can just have an easy fight towards the Mexican fighter, all he have is just a reach and height advantage while Valdez have the rest of the advantage like the power and KO capabilities. Judging by their past few fights, it really shows how Valdez is an exceptional fighter than the cocky Shakur. I hope he's not full of talks, 1 week left folks.

I have not heard about Shakur Stevenson saying anything about being the better fighter than Valdez because of Valdez s Mexican heritage, however, if that's true, that would only make me cheer for Valdez, out of respect. Valdez is definitely an amazing fighter. I do not underestimate his mean hook.

It's nice if they do some trash talk, it's important to sell the fight. Usually, the one that does the trash talk are the less aggressive fight because the more aggressive fighter will always do the talking in the ring, so that will make the fight to be more interesting. Anyway, this is already a popular fight, just in case they want to add some spice though.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez Title Unification Fight (April 30)
Post by: goldkingcoiner on April 22, 2022, 08:14:23 PM
Only 10 more days until the Stevenson vs Valdez title unification fight!

Stevenson said in a press release that he's going to show Valdez and the world why Oscar "ducked him all this time". Big words for a man with a head full of confidence. If he loses that is going to have an embarressing toll on his ego.

Honestly I can't really stand cocky quotes from fighters before the fight, but since he has been allegedly waiting over 3 years for this fight, I guess we can't really deny him his excitement.

Although I still think Valdez will win. Hes been 4-0 since moving up to 130 pounds, winning the WBC belt from Miguel Berchelt. Stevenson might get humiliated. ;D

Shakur Stevenson is really that confident because he thinks that he can just have an easy fight towards the Mexican fighter, all he have is just a reach and height advantage while Valdez have the rest of the advantage like the power and KO capabilities. Judging by their past few fights, it really shows how Valdez is an exceptional fighter than the cocky Shakur. I hope he's not full of talks, 1 week left folks.

I have not heard about Shakur Stevenson saying anything about being the better fighter than Valdez because of Valdez s Mexican heritage, however, if that's true, that would only make me cheer for Valdez, out of respect. Valdez is definitely an amazing fighter. I do not underestimate his mean hook.

It's nice if they do some trash talk, it's important to sell the fight. Usually, the one that does the trash talk are the less aggressive fight because the more aggressive fighter will always do the talking in the ring, so that will make the fight to be more interesting. Anyway, this is already a popular fight, just in case they want to add some spice though.

Indeed trash talk seems like a PR marketing tactic which all fighters like to do before a fight. It does heat up the fans just before the fists start flying, maybe it even makes them cheer harder for their favorite fighter. But racist remarks might deeply hurt their fans and they might lose fans, even.

Obviously not a smart move in this case.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez Title Unification Fight (April 30)
Post by: Kemarit on April 23, 2022, 02:45:46 AM

But in any case, the smart gamblers will have to put a lot of money on Shakur, but for me, might be better to look for the underdog in this fight, IMHO.

You'll never know which is a smart bet until the fight is over.

Lots of boxing fights that an underdog won the fight, and there's no doubt that Oscar Valdez could potentially upset the favorite to win here because of his aggressiveness and his explosiveness, so personally, as to skills-wise, I believe that Stevenson has the edge but if he gets tired then Valdez will definitely win the fight.

What I meant by smart gamblers is those who is always willing to bet on the favorites. So it's based on the odds itself because they think that the bookies will always be right.

However, we want to get the best odds for us for every fight there is. There is this gamblers who want to bet on the underdogs on the otherside.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez Title Unification Fight (April 30)
Post by: Distinctin on April 23, 2022, 03:10:05 PM
Only 10 more days until the Stevenson vs Valdez title unification fight!

Stevenson said in a press release that he's going to show Valdez and the world why Oscar "ducked him all this time". Big words for a man with a head full of confidence. If he loses that is going to have an embarressing toll on his ego.

Honestly I can't really stand cocky quotes from fighters before the fight, but since he has been allegedly waiting over 3 years for this fight, I guess we can't really deny him his excitement.

Although I still think Valdez will win. Hes been 4-0 since moving up to 130 pounds, winning the WBC belt from Miguel Berchelt. Stevenson might get humiliated. ;D

Shakur Stevenson is really that confident because he thinks that he can just have an easy fight towards the Mexican fighter, all he have is just a reach and height advantage while Valdez have the rest of the advantage like the power and KO capabilities. Judging by their past few fights, it really shows how Valdez is an exceptional fighter than the cocky Shakur. I hope he's not full of talks, 1 week left folks.

I have not heard about Shakur Stevenson saying anything about being the better fighter than Valdez because of Valdez s Mexican heritage, however, if that's true, that would only make me cheer for Valdez, out of respect. Valdez is definitely an amazing fighter. I do not underestimate his mean hook.

It's nice if they do some trash talk, it's important to sell the fight. Usually, the one that does the trash talk are the less aggressive fight because the more aggressive fighter will always do the talking in the ring, so that will make the fight to be more interesting. Anyway, this is already a popular fight, just in case they want to add some spice though.

I agree that it's just their way to market the fight and it's already natural to see/hear some trashtalks before the fight but if indeed Shakur have said those things then I think it's already out of the line if Valdez didn't trashtalk him back or at least make some retaliations. I hope Shakur is not full of words and he can make it happen because he would be embarrassed if it turns out to be opposite.

Shakur may be the favorite to win the fight according to the sports bookies but this time, I'm going with the underdog which is Valdez.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez Title Unification Fight (April 30)
Post by: stadus on April 23, 2022, 04:15:03 PM
Only 10 more days until the Stevenson vs Valdez title unification fight!

Stevenson said in a press release that he's going to show Valdez and the world why Oscar "ducked him all this time". Big words for a man with a head full of confidence. If he loses that is going to have an embarressing toll on his ego.

Honestly I can't really stand cocky quotes from fighters before the fight, but since he has been allegedly waiting over 3 years for this fight, I guess we can't really deny him his excitement.

Although I still think Valdez will win. Hes been 4-0 since moving up to 130 pounds, winning the WBC belt from Miguel Berchelt. Stevenson might get humiliated. ;D

Shakur Stevenson is really that confident because he thinks that he can just have an easy fight towards the Mexican fighter, all he have is just a reach and height advantage while Valdez have the rest of the advantage like the power and KO capabilities. Judging by their past few fights, it really shows how Valdez is an exceptional fighter than the cocky Shakur. I hope he's not full of talks, 1 week left folks.

I have not heard about Shakur Stevenson saying anything about being the better fighter than Valdez because of Valdez s Mexican heritage, however, if that's true, that would only make me cheer for Valdez, out of respect. Valdez is definitely an amazing fighter. I do not underestimate his mean hook.

Stevenson is not a very smart man, perhaps too many blows to the head made him simple?

He doesn't have to say it because those few big words is already a proof and surely enough that he is surely over his head because he thinks that Valdez is avoiding him because Valdez is afraid of him. He better mean those words because it may come back to him if he can't stood his ground on their fight.

Valdez may be the underdog here but I trust his capabilities and power to defeat Shakur. That is not really a nice wise words coming from Shakur himself.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez Title Unification Fight (April 30)
Post by: cabron on April 23, 2022, 04:37:12 PM

I would likely be rooting for Valdez because of the odds. Damn they made this guy the underdog when he is just 30. He can do what Shakur can do and even better as they are both undefeated. Shakur doesn't often knock out his foe in the ring.

The one that I'm just going to suspect though is that Shakur is being hyped by Top Rank.  Not saying that Valdez would sell the game but its possible if his loss is very obvious.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez Title Unification Fight (April 30)
Post by: erep on April 23, 2022, 04:40:41 PM
He doesn't have to say it because those few big words is already a proof and surely enough that he is surely over his head because he thinks that Valdez is avoiding him because Valdez is afraid of him. He better mean those words because it may come back to him if he can't stood his ground on their fight.
I judge his attitude of confidence to have been willing to fight Valdez, so I don't think those words were meant to attack personally but we enjoyed it, because before the game starts there will be a lot of controversy news between the two, although one may be cold and choose to show in the punch in the boxing ring.

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Valdez may be the underdog here but I trust his capabilities and power to defeat Shakur. That is not really a nice wise words coming from Shakur himself.
Based on the top rank, Valdez seems to dominate because he has a record of 23 KO and Stevenson with a score of 9 KO, so that in every boxing match, the attitude of the potential winner will maintain his ego after winning a boxing match.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez Title Unification Fight (April 30)
Post by: cryptomaniac_xxx on April 23, 2022, 11:26:05 PM

I would likely be rooting for Valdez because of the odds. Damn they made this guy the underdog when he is just 30. He can do what Shakur can do and even better as they are both undefeated. Shakur doesn't often knock out his foe in the ring.

The one that I'm just going to suspect though is that Shakur is being hyped by Top Rank.  Not saying that Valdez would sell the game but its possible if his loss is very obvious.

If I'm not mistaken, both of them are in Top Rank? Nevertheless, I agree with you that the odds is somewhat really favorable on Shakur. But we all know that Valdez has a good chance to win or even score a devastating knock out with his left hook. Shakur looks for knock out no doubt, but it could be on the body and not on the face against Valdez. And this is what I'm thinking that Shakur will do, target Valdez body early to slow him down and so that his power will diminished because of that crushing body blows that he will throw on Valdez.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez Title Unification Fight (April 30)
Post by: cabron on April 24, 2022, 02:55:20 AM


I would likely be rooting for Valdez because of the odds. Damn they made this guy the underdog when he is just 30. He can do what Shakur can do and even better as they are both undefeated. Shakur doesn't often knock out his foe in the ring.

The one that I'm just going to suspect though is that Shakur is being hyped by Top Rank.  Not saying that Valdez would sell the game but its possible if his loss is very obvious.

If I'm not mistaken, both of them are in Top Rank? Nevertheless, I agree with you that the odds is somewhat really favorable on Shakur. But we all know that Valdez has a good chance to win or even score a devastating knock out with his left hook. Shakur looks for knock out no doubt, but it could be on the body and not on the face against Valdez. And this is what I'm thinking that Shakur will do, target Valdez body early to slow him down and so that his power will diminished because of that crushing body blows that he will throw on Valdez.

The more they could just arrange something for a price since they are both in Top Rank. Big fight like this suppose to make money for Top Rank but I'm probably just too paranoid when it comes to this seeing how many underdog today from MMA to boxing had won their battle unexpectedly. Of course both of them can potentially beat each other. Who knows they may even be right about the odds they settle. If Shakur win by close points in UD, I would assume theory correct and Top rank helped him to  go way over his head.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez 130-pound Title Unification Fight
Post by: Smartprofit on April 24, 2022, 09:13:06 AM
Maybe Shakur is very confident that he will destroy Oscar Valdez, after all he is the betting favorite if I'm not mistaken.

But yeah, there are boxers who doesn't talk that much but would rather to the work inside the ring. So this is still very close fight as both fighter are still in their prime. This is going to be another compelling fight for boxing fans.

Shakur is still the favorite in this match, he is just too fast for Oscar Valdez, that's what the bookies are thinking and some boxing analysts as well. But we know that a single punch can slow down a fast Shakur so this one is an exciting fight as both are still in their prime and a powerful punch could turn the fight around so Shakur will have his guard up until the final bell rings if he wants to win this one.

People are motivated by defeat, not victory. 

When a boxer wins too often, he gets the feeling that he is invincible.  It seems to him that he is stronger than any of his opponents.  However, this is a false feeling.  On the contrary, after winning the ring, you need to train even harder.  However, Shakur Stevenson gives the impression of a confident person.  And that's bad...

At the same time, Oscar Valdes is learning from his mistakes.  Oscar understands that he needs to train hard to win this fight. 

He's had bad luck in the past (I mean his bad fight with Conceicao) and now he wants to win. 

I think we are in for a very interesting and exciting boxing match.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez 130-pound Title Unification Fight
Post by: bisdak40 on April 24, 2022, 09:42:45 AM
Maybe Shakur is very confident that he will destroy Oscar Valdez, after all he is the betting favorite if I'm not mistaken.

But yeah, there are boxers who doesn't talk that much but would rather to the work inside the ring. So this is still very close fight as both fighter are still in their prime. This is going to be another compelling fight for boxing fans.

Shakur is still the favorite in this match, he is just too fast for Oscar Valdez, that's what the bookies are thinking and some boxing analysts as well. But we know that a single punch can slow down a fast Shakur so this one is an exciting fight as both are still in their prime and a powerful punch could turn the fight around so Shakur will have his guard up until the final bell rings if he wants to win this one.

People are motivated by defeat, not victory. 

When a boxer wins too often, he gets the feeling that he is invincible.  It seems to him that he is stronger than any of his opponents.  However, this is a false feeling.  On the contrary, after winning the ring, you need to train even harder.  However, Shakur Stevenson gives the impression of a confident person.  And that's bad...

At the same time, Oscar Valdes is learning from his mistakes.  Oscar understands that he needs to train hard to win this fight. 

He's had bad luck in the past (I mean his bad fight with Conceicao) and now he wants to win. 

I think we are in for a very interesting and exciting boxing match.

You've got a point there mate, however, i do think that both fighters are too motivated to win this historic match as only a few boxers have unified the four prestigious belts though Shakur seems to underestimate Oscar sometimes but that is a part of selling off this fight.

Oscar has a lot of bad fights (fights where the outcome doesn't meet expectations) but that is all part of the game, all boxers knew that and forget about it as this upcoming fight is a different one.

Yeah, we are in a very interesting fight as rarely in boxing that we have a hard time predicting on who's gonna win and this is one of them though i lean a little bit towards Oscar because of him being a heavy puncher.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez Title Unification Fight (April 30)
Post by: yazher on April 24, 2022, 03:38:32 PM
Oscar Valdez might not gonna enjoy this one because Stevenson is capable of turning the table of this fight once he can take the punches against Oscar. This is how Unification bout should be and as we all know, they are not really that popular compared to the other boxers and they need to sell this fight with their good performances and some unforgettable events that would gonna escalate the pay-per-view sales of their next fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez Title Unification Fight (April 30)
Post by: Russlenat on April 24, 2022, 08:41:12 PM
Oscar Valdez might not gonna enjoy this one because Stevenson is capable of turning the table of this fight once he can take the punches against Oscar. This is how Unification bout should be and as we all know, they are not really that popular compared to the other boxers and they need to sell this fight with their good performances and some unforgettable events that would gonna escalate the pay-per-view sales of their next fight.
If Stevenson will go toe to toe it will be the advantage of Valdez because it's his style, he can throw and take punches as well, that's what I like about this guy because he is fun to watch, and though he is an underdog here, I would still think his chance legit to win and I see that value on the betting odds.

The current odds for Valdez is +500, that's very attractive.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez Title Unification Fight (April 30)
Post by: stadus on April 25, 2022, 07:46:02 AM
Oscar Valdez might not gonna enjoy this one because Stevenson is capable of turning the table of this fight once he can take the punches against Oscar. This is how Unification bout should be and as we all know, they are not really that popular compared to the other boxers and they need to sell this fight with their good performances and some unforgettable events that would gonna escalate the pay-per-view sales of their next fight.
Well, if he would just run and Valdez is leading the score, there's no way he will beat Valdez here. They have different style probably but they have to be convincing to the judges if they want to win, and when the fight is close, based on what I see on the previous fights, the aggressor usually get the votes of the judges.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez Title Unification Fight (April 30)
Post by: stadus on April 25, 2022, 04:11:59 PM
He doesn't have to say it because those few big words is already a proof and surely enough that he is surely over his head because he thinks that Valdez is avoiding him because Valdez is afraid of him. He better mean those words because it may come back to him if he can't stood his ground on their fight.
I judge his attitude of confidence to have been willing to fight Valdez, so I don't think those words were meant to attack personally but we enjoyed it, because before the game starts there will be a lot of controversy news between the two, although one may be cold and choose to show in the punch in the boxing ring.

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Valdez may be the underdog here but I trust his capabilities and power to defeat Shakur. That is not really a nice wise words coming from Shakur himself.
Based on the top rank, Valdez seems to dominate because he has a record of 23 KO and Stevenson with a score of 9 KO, so that in every boxing match, the attitude of the potential winner will maintain his ego after winning a boxing match.

He may have that confidence but that won't help him to beat Valdez especially in the long run, experience-wise and stamina-wise I certainly thinks that Valdez have those advantages as surely numbers won't lie. But yes, you're right, that's just his own way to market the fight even if those words will make him regret once he is on the ring.

As I said, number won't lie. Valdez have more IQ in the ring as he do have more experience than Shakur who's just starting to build his own career.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez Title Unification Fight (April 30)
Post by: Distinctin on April 26, 2022, 01:52:00 PM

I would likely be rooting for Valdez because of the odds. Damn they made this guy the underdog when he is just 30. He can do what Shakur can do and even better as they are both undefeated. Shakur doesn't often knock out his foe in the ring.

The one that I'm just going to suspect though is that Shakur is being hyped by Top Rank.  Not saying that Valdez would sell the game but its possible if his loss is very obvious.

Yes, it's true that Oscar Valdez is labeled as an underdog despite of his KO capabilities and good defensive style, him being the underdog is good for us because the odds are much prettier than the crowd and sports favorite Shakur Stevenson who's record isn't that much attractive together with his KO capabilities. Aside from betting, my support also goes for Valdez.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez Title Unification Fight (April 30)
Post by: Russlenat on April 26, 2022, 03:04:30 PM

I would likely be rooting for Valdez because of the odds. Damn they made this guy the underdog when he is just 30. He can do what Shakur can do and even better as they are both undefeated. Shakur doesn't often knock out his foe in the ring.

The one that I'm just going to suspect though is that Shakur is being hyped by Top Rank.  Not saying that Valdez would sell the game but its possible if his loss is very obvious.

Yes, it's true that Oscar Valdez is labeled as an underdog despite of his KO capabilities and good defensive style, him being the underdog is good for us because the odds are much prettier than the crowd and sports favorite Shakur Stevenson who's record isn't that much attractive together with his KO capabilities. Aside from betting, my support also goes for Valdez.

I'm also confused why Valdez is the underdog because his records is indeed more impressive than Stevenson. As for the odds, might as well take advantage of this chance while we can take this odds because I have a feeling that this odds will move and not be this pretty until the day of the fight.

Any speculations here on how would this fight ends? I'm thinking that this will be a split or unanimous.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez Title Unification Fight (April 30)
Post by: kaya11 on April 26, 2022, 03:31:17 PM

As I said, number won't lie. Valdez have more IQ in the ring as he do have more experience than Shakur who's just starting to build his own career.

This may be true but, how many champions have lost their belts because of relying of them being an experienced fighter? A hard hit on a chin can knock him out, so it is still early to tell whether the odds of Shakur's winning is zero. Let's wait and see for ourselves if Shakur really has the chances of winning which is I am rooting for.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez Title Unification Fight (April 30)
Post by: freedomgo on April 26, 2022, 05:15:31 PM

As I said, number won't lie. Valdez have more IQ in the ring as he do have more experience than Shakur who's just starting to build his own career.

This may be true but, how many champions have lost their belts because of relying of them being an experienced fighter? A hard hit on a chin can knock him out, so it is still early to tell whether the odds of Shakur's winning is zero. Let's wait and see for ourselves if Shakur really has the chances of winning which is I am rooting for.

Agreed but if we're not basing it on their experience then where will we base it? We have this discussion to help the bettors like us and give a good opinion. I understand why you said that because you're rooting for Shakur, I won't argue you on that. However this is a discussion about these two and I'm not a fan of Valdez either but seriously looking on their stats it makes me side with Valdez too.

Nobody was saying that Shakur's chances is zero though ;D


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez Title Unification Fight (April 30)
Post by: LUCKMCFLY on April 28, 2022, 04:22:38 AM

But in any case, the smart gamblers will have to put a lot of money on Shakur, but for me, might be better to look for the underdog in this fight, IMHO.

You'll never know which is a smart bet until the fight is over.

Lots of boxing fights that an underdog won the fight, and there's no doubt that Oscar Valdez could potentially upset the favorite to win here because of his aggressiveness and his explosiveness, so personally, as to skills-wise, I believe that Stevenson has the edge but if he gets tired then Valdez will definitely win the fight.
In this fucking is where the biggest of my doubts comes in, bet that he will resist or Shakur's speed? I don't know, because for me the boxing that Valdez will manage will be something very intelligent, he knows that his strength is to reach more possible rounds than to kill everything by knockout, for me he does not have that style, on the other hand Shakur does, he he is a different kind of boxer.

In a bet right now I think I would go for VALDEZ, I would appeal to Valdez to manage his times more, resist and make him enter his field so that he can dominate, for me that is what will happen.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez Title Unification Fight (April 30)
Post by: bisdak40 on April 28, 2022, 11:18:38 PM
In a bet right now I think I would go for VALDEZ, I would appeal to Valdez to manage his times more, resist and make him enter his field so that he can dominate, for me that is what will happen.

Either by KO or by Decision, the odds for backing Valdez are too tempting while betting for Shakur is not attractive at all, especially the ML.

The fight will be on the weekend already and below are some options/markets on how to bet for the fight and I guess many will go for Oscar with the figures shown below.

Many analysts have said that Shakur is just too quick for Oscar but I think the latter could catch him in the middle rounds when Shakur is already tired and that might be the time Oscar will do damage to Shakur.

https://i.imgur.com/Io054dM.png


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez Title Unification Fight (April 30)
Post by: Kemarit on April 29, 2022, 01:49:41 AM
^^ Yeah, I like both of the odds, it's really very attractive because Oscar Valdez is the underdog although we all know that he has a good and solid power in both hands.

I'm sure that smart money might go with Stevenson, but those bettors who will back up Valdez as the underdog because of that great odds and I think the bookies might have put it wrong to have that kind of odds for him.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez Title Unification Fight (April 30)
Post by: Smartprofit on April 29, 2022, 10:43:32 AM
Many players are now betting on the victory of Oscar Valdez.  Some experts believe that he is an outsider of the upcoming boxing match.  I don't think...

As far as I know, Valdes is actively preparing for the upcoming fight.  He probably trains his speed characteristics as well.  He really needs to move faster to knock out Shakur.  

If Shakur attacks from the very beginning, then Oscar Valdez will have the advantage.  Valedez is very good at defending himself from direct punches.  After repelling Shakur's attack, he will be able to go on a counterattack.  

The fight could end in a knockout.  In my opinion, Oscar Valdez will win the upcoming fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez Title Unification Fight (April 30)
Post by: Ararbermas on April 29, 2022, 11:15:56 AM
Shakur need to be careful on this fight because surely he will have a big problem in the middle of the fight although he has speed and power punches as well but the technique there's a big difference and for me it's quite skeptical if we will make a comparison between two fighters, wherein surely there will be KO and maybe by Valdez.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez Title Unification Fight (April 30)
Post by: Questat on April 29, 2022, 12:01:43 PM
Shakur need to be careful on this fight because surely he will have a big problem in the middle of the fight although he has speed and power punches as well but the technique there's a big difference and for me it's quite skeptical if we will make a comparison between two fighters, wherein surely there will be KO and maybe by Valdez.
That's what I wanted to see, technical fighters are boring to watch, except LOMA, so hopefully this fight is going to be a candidate for the fight of the year. I like the fact that they are giving us a good fight, an aggressive fighter versus a technical one, let's see if Shakur would still be able to do his thing when the pressure is high as we all know Valdez just loves to attack.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez Title Unification Fight (April 30)
Post by: freedomgo on April 29, 2022, 01:22:39 PM
Shakur need to be careful on this fight because surely he will have a big problem in the middle of the fight although he has speed and power punches as well but the technique there's a big difference and for me it's quite skeptical if we will make a comparison between two fighters, wherein surely there will be KO and maybe by Valdez.
That's what I wanted to see, technical fighters are boring to watch, except LOMA, so hopefully this fight is going to be a candidate for the fight of the year. I like the fact that they are giving us a good fight, an aggressive fighter versus a technical one, let's see if Shakur would still be able to do his thing when the pressure is high as we all know Valdez just loves to attack.
Hopefully this fight will be an entertaining to watch and we can see what we expect from this fight as both of them is a different fighter of themselves, Shakur should not only rely on his speed because Valdez will read that movements for sure and could give him a dangerous spot if Shakur is a bit too aggressive as the latter will just be observing him most of the time before he starts to throw few connecting punches that could surely hurt the favorite.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez Title Unification Fight (April 30)
Post by: bisdak40 on April 30, 2022, 12:51:14 AM
Here is the video of the weigh-in.

Both fighters make the weight and they looked trim.

Oscar said that they are ready to bang if needed and well box if needed as well so I think we can witness world-class boxing a few hours from now, good luck with your bets as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9f6477jNvs&ab_channel=TopRankBoxing


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez Title Unification Fight (April 30)
Post by: Jawhead999 on April 30, 2022, 01:33:19 AM
Both fighters make the weight and they looked trim.
As usual Valdez looks very serious when he faced his opponent in the press conference, he didn't even smile to Stevenson. While Stevenson looks more confident and often smiled to Valdez.

There's no much change about the odds, many users here predict Valdez win in this match... don't miss to place your bet if you're Valdez fans since the odds is juicy. It's already few hours before the fight happen, this will be an interesting fight to watch.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez Title Unification Fight (April 30)
Post by: freedomgo on April 30, 2022, 05:00:51 AM
Here is the video of the weigh-in.

Both fighters make the weight and they looked trim.

Oscar said that they are ready to bang if needed and well box if needed as well so I think we can witness world-class boxing a few hours from now, good luck with your bets as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9f6477jNvs&ab_channel=TopRankBoxing

Yep, I watched this few hours ago. I know that both could make their into their weigh-in and they are definitely ripped especially Oscar Valdez. Shakur is will be always Shakur who's smirks a lot unlike Valdez who don't even show his teeth nor smiled to the audience, he is serious as ever. Well, good luck to the both of them.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez Title Unification Fight (April 30)
Post by: Baofeng on April 30, 2022, 06:57:27 PM
Here is the video of the weigh-in.

Both fighters make the weight and they looked trim.

Oscar said that they are ready to bang if needed and well box if needed as well so I think we can witness world-class boxing a few hours from now, good luck with your bets as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9f6477jNvs&ab_channel=TopRankBoxing

Yes, both make the weight, Valdez looks very serious though and tense in the weigh-in, while Shakur is all smiles and very confident about the fight.

This is going to be a good fight, and it's really hard to predict what will be the outcome. I haven't put my bet yet to be honest.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez Title Unification Fight (April 30)
Post by: bisdak40 on April 30, 2022, 10:19:22 PM
Here is the video of the weigh-in.

Both fighters make the weight and they looked trim.

Oscar said that they are ready to bang if needed and well box if needed as well so I think we can witness world-class boxing a few hours from now, good luck with your bets as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9f6477jNvs&ab_channel=TopRankBoxing

Yes, both make the weight, Valdez looks very serious though and tense in the weigh-in, while Shakur is all smiles and very confident about the fight.

This is going to be a good fight, and it's really hard to predict what will be the outcome. I haven't put my bet yet to be honest.

Although most of the users here have chosen Oscar Valdez to win this fight but this is a fight where I have a hard time choosing whom to bet on.

You can't hurt what you can't hit, that's what I'm thinking right now and I'm skeptical about how can Oscar Valdez could hurt Shakur in this fight but looking at the odds which is too attractive for me, I'm going for Oscar to win this fight.

Hope in the middle rounds when Shakur is already tired, Oscar can unload accurately those power punches that could end the night for the former.

https://i.imgur.com/NWY9QDW.png


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez Title Unification Fight (April 30)
Post by: Kemarit on May 01, 2022, 03:30:01 AM
Anyone can share a link of the fight for free?  ;D

Anyhow, I agree that this fight is hard to bet because of the contrasting style, majority favors Valdez because of his power but the odds for Shakur is like went from 1.14 to 1.11. So again, smart money goes to Shakur but underdog bettors love the odds they see on Oscar but probably putting a small to medium bet, I reckon.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez Title Unification Fight (April 30)
Post by: btc_angela on May 01, 2022, 04:08:44 AM
Anyone can share a link of the fight for free?  ;D

Anyhow, I agree that this fight is hard to bet because of the contrasting style, majority favors Valdez because of his power but the odds for Shakur is like went from 1.14 to 1.11. So again, smart money goes to Shakur but underdog bettors love the odds they see on Oscar but probably putting a small to medium bet, I reckon.

Just look and go to FB and search for this fight, maybe you can find someone streaming it there.

Shakur though for me has controlled the first 4 rounds with his superb boxing skills. Not sure how Valdez can offset that, unless he hits Shakur with his patented left and change the game.

Edit: Shakur win the fight, UD for him.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez Title Unification Fight (April 30)
Post by: Jawhead999 on May 01, 2022, 04:31:42 AM
Shakur though for me has controlled the first 4 rounds with his superb boxing skills. Not sure how Valdez can offset that, unless he hits Shakur with his patented left and change the game.
Valdez get to much punched, his face already battered... he played with peek a boo style here, I guess Stevenson's jabs is really hurt him. Right now Stevenson is really hard to hit Valdez face, so he's looking to give body shots. It's really one sided game for Stevenson, I'm not sure with the last 3 rounds Valdez can make an upset, Stevenson is really have good stamina.


The fight ended and Stevenson won via unanimous decision, the bookies aren't wrong making Stevenson is heavy favorited.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez Title Unification Fight (April 30)
Post by: TravelMug on May 01, 2022, 05:08:40 AM
^^ The bookies are correct, but it seems we got it wrong though as we are pre-dominantly Valdez, same as the crowd who watches the fight live.

Maybe majority of us here doesn't want to watch a defensive fight, but it's obvious that Shakur skills is superior and he has somewhat power because Valdez was hurt when he was just even grazed by Stevenson.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez Title Unification Fight (April 30)
Post by: judeafante on May 01, 2022, 05:17:47 AM
^^ The bookies are correct, but it seems we got it wrong though as we are pre-dominantly Valdez, same as the crowd who watches the fight live.

Maybe majority of us here doesn't want to watch a defensive fight, but it's obvious that Shakur skills is superior and he has somewhat power because Valdez was hurt when he was just even grazed by Stevenson.

Shakur makes Valdez looks bad he is the more powerful between the two and always on the attack, Valdez was left in defensive mode, this is a very disappointing fight we all thought that we could have a good fight because these two are good fighters, and willing to slug it out, I agree with the decision, I don't think these two deserves a rematch, it's all Shakur on this fight.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez Title Unification Fight (April 30)
Post by: freedomgo on May 01, 2022, 05:31:13 AM
^^ The bookies are correct, but it seems we got it wrong though as we are pre-dominantly Valdez, same as the crowd who watches the fight live.

Maybe majority of us here doesn't want to watch a defensive fight, but it's obvious that Shakur skills is superior and he has somewhat power because Valdez was hurt when he was just even grazed by Stevenson.

Shakur makes Valdez looks bad he is the more powerful between the two and always on the attack, Valdez was left in defensive mode, this is a very disappointing fight we all thought that we could have a good fight because these two are good fighters, and willing to slug it out, I agree with the decision, I don't think these two deserves a rematch, it's all Shakur on this fight.

Obviously, it was a dominant win by Shakur, Valdez cannot take the power of Shakur so he was on a defensive mode. I thought Valdez would go all out and try to KO Shakur, but it didn't happen because he is not confident he can knockout or even hurt Shakur. Congrats to Shakur for a well-deserved win.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez Title Unification Fight (April 30)
Post by: FinneysTrueVision on May 01, 2022, 05:32:12 AM
^^ The bookies are correct, but it seems we got it wrong though as we are pre-dominantly Valdez, same as the crowd who watches the fight live.

Maybe majority of us here doesn't want to watch a defensive fight, but it's obvious that Shakur skills is superior and he has somewhat power because Valdez was hurt when he was just even grazed by Stevenson.

I would rate Stevenson among the top 5 pound for pound fighters but I find his style to be lackluster. Valdez doesn't have the best defense and can't take a punch very well. This was Stevenson's opportunity to win in spectacular fashion but he chose to go with a safety first approach. As great as Shakur is, I still think he has a long way to go before he is on the same level as Canelo, Crawford and Fury due to his unwillingness or inability to finish fighters.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez Title Unification Fight (April 30)
Post by: stadus on May 01, 2022, 06:45:34 AM
^^ The bookies are correct, but it seems we got it wrong though as we are pre-dominantly Valdez, same as the crowd who watches the fight live.

Maybe majority of us here doesn't want to watch a defensive fight, but it's obvious that Shakur skills is superior and he has somewhat power because Valdez was hurt when he was just even grazed by Stevenson.

I would rate Stevenson among the top 5 pound for pound fighters but I find his style to be lackluster. Valdez doesn't have the best defense and can't take a punch very well. This was Stevenson's opportunity to win in spectacular fashion but he chose to go with a safety first approach. As great as Shakur is, I still think he has a long way to go before he is on the same level as Canelo, Crawford and Fury due to his unwillingness or inability to finish fighters.

That's not what we are expecting him to see, the bookies are right, they rated Valdez as a heavy dog because he wasn't as aggressive as he was in his past fights, that killer instinct was gone in this fight, probably because Shakur is faster than him and he could not catch him to hurt him. What's next for Shakur after this?


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez Title Unification Fight (April 30)
Post by: bisdak40 on May 01, 2022, 06:50:35 AM
^^ The bookies are correct, but it seems we got it wrong though as we are pre-dominantly Valdez, same as the crowd who watches the fight live.

Maybe majority of us here doesn't want to watch a defensive fight, but it's obvious that Shakur skills is superior and he has somewhat power because Valdez was hurt when he was just even grazed by Stevenson.

I would rate Stevenson among the top 5 pound for pound fighters but I find his style to be lackluster. Valdez doesn't have the best defense and can't take a punch very well. This was Stevenson's opportunity to win in spectacular fashion but he chose to go with a safety first approach. As great as Shakur is, I still think he has a long way to go before he is on the same level as Canelo, Crawford and Fury due to his unwillingness or inability to finish fighters.

He doesn't want to gamble because he has to propose to his girlfriend after the win lol.

Kidding aside, yup, that was a lackluster event for Shakur, he could have hurt the smaller Valdez if goes on the offensive mode but he chooses to be defensive even if he can take Oscar's punches.

Devin Haney is on Team Stevenson's radar per his post-fight interview and I think that would be a boring fight because Haney is also a counter-puncher and has a low KO rate.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez Title Unification Fight (April 30)
Post by: Russlenat on May 01, 2022, 08:16:32 AM
^^ The bookies are correct, but it seems we got it wrong though as we are pre-dominantly Valdez, same as the crowd who watches the fight live.

Maybe majority of us here doesn't want to watch a defensive fight, but it's obvious that Shakur skills is superior and he has somewhat power because Valdez was hurt when he was just even grazed by Stevenson.

I would rate Stevenson among the top 5 pound for pound fighters but I find his style to be lackluster. Valdez doesn't have the best defense and can't take a punch very well. This was Stevenson's opportunity to win in spectacular fashion but he chose to go with a safety first approach. As great as Shakur is, I still think he has a long way to go before he is on the same level as Canelo, Crawford and Fury due to his unwillingness or inability to finish fighters.

He doesn't want to gamble because he has to propose to his girlfriend after the win lol.

Kidding aside, yup, that was a lackluster event for Shakur, he could have hurt the smaller Valdez if goes on the offensive mode but he chooses to be defensive even if he can take Oscar's punches.

Devin Haney is on Team Stevenson's radar per his post-fight interview and I think that would be a boring fight because Haney is also a counter-puncher and has a low KO rate.

So, let's hope that Kambasos will beat Haney so Shakur would again fight an aggressive fighter, a real aggressive fighter. Not fun to watch, but there are boxers nowadays that focus more on defense and calculated offense to win, despite the fact that they are boring to watch.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez Title Unification Fight (April 30)
Post by: Ziskinberg on May 01, 2022, 08:32:52 AM
^^ The bookies are correct, but it seems we got it wrong though as we are pre-dominantly Valdez, same as the crowd who watches the fight live.

Maybe majority of us here doesn't want to watch a defensive fight, but it's obvious that Shakur skills is superior and he has somewhat power because Valdez was hurt when he was just even grazed by Stevenson.

I would rate Stevenson among the top 5 pound for pound fighters but I find his style to be lackluster. Valdez doesn't have the best defense and can't take a punch very well. This was Stevenson's opportunity to win in spectacular fashion but he chose to go with a safety first approach. As great as Shakur is, I still think he has a long way to go before he is on the same level as Canelo, Crawford and Fury due to his unwillingness or inability to finish fighters.

He doesn't want to gamble because he has to propose to his girlfriend after the win lol.

Kidding aside, yup, that was a lackluster event for Shakur, he could have hurt the smaller Valdez if goes on the offensive mode but he chooses to be defensive even if he can take Oscar's punches.

Devin Haney is on Team Stevenson's radar per his post-fight interview and I think that would be a boring fight because Haney is also a counter-puncher and has a low KO rate.

So, let's hope that Kambasos will beat Haney so Shakur would again fight an aggressive fighter, a real aggressive fighter. Not fun to watch, but there are boxers nowadays that focus more on defense and calculated offense to win, despite the fact that they are boring to watch.

I hope but I'm afraid we will see the same outcome that we saw today. Haney is a good technical fighter as well, he is very smart in the ring and he can score that would convince the judge to give him the win. These defensive fighters are not expected to give toe to toe, unless their opponent is fast enough to catch them, but in the case of Kambasos, I don't think he is fast enough to catch Haney.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez Title Unification Fight (April 30)
Post by: judeafante on May 01, 2022, 08:47:20 AM


So, let's hope that Kambasos will beat Haney so Shakur would again fight an aggressive fighter, a real aggressive fighter. Not fun to watch, but there are boxers nowadays that focus more on defense and calculated offense to win, despite the fact that they are boring to watch.

Some of the best fights in the lighter division are in the era of Pacquiao, Chavez Sr., Leonard, boxers nowadays preferred to be scientific and calculated they just want to score points and win by decision, when was the last time we have seen a fight so similar in the Hearns - Hagler fight where every second of the fight is exciting, I can watch the replay of the fight of these two legendary over and over again but with that kind of fight between Shakur and Valdez I don't think I can watch a replay.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez Title Unification Fight (April 30)
Post by: Jating on May 01, 2022, 11:40:13 AM
^^ The bookies are correct, but it seems we got it wrong though as we are pre-dominantly Valdez, same as the crowd who watches the fight live.

Maybe majority of us here doesn't want to watch a defensive fight, but it's obvious that Shakur skills is superior and he has somewhat power because Valdez was hurt when he was just even grazed by Stevenson.

I would rate Stevenson among the top 5 pound for pound fighters but I find his style to be lackluster. Valdez doesn't have the best defense and can't take a punch very well. This was Stevenson's opportunity to win in spectacular fashion but he chose to go with a safety first approach. As great as Shakur is, I still think he has a long way to go before he is on the same level as Canelo, Crawford and Fury due to his unwillingness or inability to finish fighters.

That's not what we are expecting him to see, the bookies are right, they rated Valdez as a heavy dog because he wasn't as aggressive as he was in his past fights, that killer instinct was gone in this fight, probably because Shakur is faster than him and he could not catch him to hurt him. What's next for Shakur after this?

Yeah, it's sort of disappointment performance by Oscar Valdez. I guess this division might be too big for him though. I was not expecting this kind of result but I guess that's why Stevenson is really the outstanding favorite in this fight.

I guess if he wanted to clean the division, Shakur would want to fight Ogawa of Japan. But it seems he is not a very well known fighter and this will not bring money for Shakur. He can go up at 135 lbs and chases this other champion.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez Title Unification Fight (April 30)
Post by: Baofeng on May 01, 2022, 11:42:31 AM
Here is the video of the weigh-in.

Both fighters make the weight and they looked trim.

Oscar said that they are ready to bang if needed and well box if needed as well so I think we can witness world-class boxing a few hours from now, good luck with your bets as well.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9f6477jNvs&ab_channel=TopRankBoxing

Yes, both make the weight, Valdez looks very serious though and tense in the weigh-in, while Shakur is all smiles and very confident about the fight.

This is going to be a good fight, and it's really hard to predict what will be the outcome. I haven't put my bet yet to be honest.

Although most of the users here have chosen Oscar Valdez to win this fight but this is a fight where I have a hard time choosing whom to bet on.

You can't hurt what you can't hit, that's what I'm thinking right now and I'm skeptical about how can Oscar Valdez could hurt Shakur in this fight but looking at the odds which is too attractive for me, I'm going for Oscar to win this fight.

Hope in the middle rounds when Shakur is already tired, Oscar can unload accurately those power punches that could end the night for the former.

https://i.imgur.com/NWY9QDW.png

That's why I chooses to skip this fight mate, not sure if Oscar can be competitive with Shakur and we have seen how he got destroyed in this fight. Shakur is too big for him, and it's really interesting how Shakur is taking Oscar best shot and then just go around. Oscar's strategy is to target the body, but Shakur is very strong and intelligent not to engage but play defense early and score points.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez Title Unification Fight (April 30)
Post by: cabron on May 02, 2022, 01:38:25 AM

A lot of us definitely misjudge Shakur because he is young and lack of fight experience but surprisingly he is much fast. His hands is just too quick to throw not giving Oscar  the time react and a punch lands his face all the time.  The book makers are right about their odds in this fight. Shakur is pretty much a hybrid, I think he can beat Mayweather with such agility. He made Oscar look very rookie.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez Title Unification Fight (April 30)
Post by: Jawhead999 on May 02, 2022, 02:00:20 AM
A lot of us definitely misjudge Shakur because he is young and lack of fight experience but surprisingly he is much fast. His hands is just too quick to throw not giving Oscar  the time react and a punch lands his face all the time.  The book makers are right about their odds in this fight. Shakur is pretty much a hybrid, I think he can beat Mayweather with such agility. He made Oscar look very rookie.
I've seen Stevenson have a huge potential to become great boxer after he won against Herring. Herring was a good boxer, he also won against Frampton via KO, but due to his ages... he can't beat Stevenson. The thing is Herring was an underdog even he's a champion, Stevenson is the challenger and favorited by the bookies.

Well there's no way an old Mayweather want to fight with young boxer, he's popular because of his undefeated record. He already rich too, no reason for him to fight anymore.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez Title Unification Fight (April 30)
Post by: bbc.reporter on May 02, 2022, 02:46:45 AM

A lot of us definitely misjudge Shakur because he is young and lack of fight experience but surprisingly he is much fast. His hands is just too quick to throw not giving Oscar  the time react and a punch lands his face all the time.  The book makers are right about their odds in this fight. Shakur is pretty much a hybrid, I think he can beat Mayweather with such agility. He made Oscar look very rookie.

I very much agree. If you trusted the sportsbooks and made a bet on Shakur Stevenson to win with a decision which had the odds of 1.51 only minutes before the fight began, it would have been an easy money hehe. This appears to be a common occurrence in many fights in the sport of boxing. This is also certainly why I always lose money hehehe. Similar to Canelo versus Bivol, my money might lose again because it will be on Bivol.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez Title Unification Fight (April 30)
Post by: Jating on May 02, 2022, 03:28:16 AM

A lot of us definitely misjudge Shakur because he is young and lack of fight experience but surprisingly he is much fast. His hands is just too quick to throw not giving Oscar  the time react and a punch lands his face all the time.  The book makers are right about their odds in this fight. Shakur is pretty much a hybrid, I think he can beat Mayweather with such agility. He made Oscar look very rookie.

I very much agree. If you trusted the sportsbooks and made a bet on Shakur Stevenson to win with a decision which had the odds of 1.51 only minutes before the fight began, it would have been an easy money hehe. This appears to be a common occurrence in many fights in the sport of boxing. This is also certainly why I always lose money hehehe. Similar to Canelo versus Bivol, my money might lose again because it will be on Bivol.

It went as low as 1.44 if I'm not mistaken, but I didn't bet on the fight because of the odds. Anyhow, yeah, if we trust those sports bookies, the problem is that we sometimes look for better odds and not just that kind of ML wherein it is not that attractive specially if you consider yourself a ordinary bettors. For whales though, that is good enough to pour thousands of dollars in order to get a decent returns.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez Title Unification Fight (April 30)
Post by: Distinctin on May 02, 2022, 05:06:36 PM

A lot of us definitely misjudge Shakur because he is young and lack of fight experience but surprisingly he is much fast. His hands is just too quick to throw not giving Oscar  the time react and a punch lands his face all the time.  The book makers are right about their odds in this fight. Shakur is pretty much a hybrid, I think he can beat Mayweather with such agility. He made Oscar look very rookie.

I very much agree. If you trusted the sportsbooks and made a bet on Shakur Stevenson to win with a decision which had the odds of 1.51 only minutes before the fight began, it would have been an easy money hehe. This appears to be a common occurrence in many fights in the sport of boxing. This is also certainly why I always lose money hehehe. Similar to Canelo versus Bivol, my money might lose again because it will be on Bivol.

It went as low as 1.44 if I'm not mistaken, but I didn't bet on the fight because of the odds. Anyhow, yeah, if we trust those sports bookies, the problem is that we sometimes look for better odds and not just that kind of ML wherein it is not that attractive specially if you consider yourself a ordinary bettors. For whales though, that is good enough to pour thousands of dollars in order to get a decent returns.
It's natural for the most of us to look for some juicy odds to bet so that we can get a competitive returns as we are one of those ordinary bettors and not whales who can always bet several thousands in just 1 bet.

I'm shocked on how Shakur performed on the fight, no wonder he is listed as the favorite. He made Valdez a human punching bag while smiling as he didn't felt any punches at all.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez Title Unification Fight (April 30)
Post by: Russlenat on May 02, 2022, 05:20:45 PM
^^ The bookies are correct, but it seems we got it wrong though as we are pre-dominantly Valdez, same as the crowd who watches the fight live.

Maybe majority of us here doesn't want to watch a defensive fight, but it's obvious that Shakur skills is superior and he has somewhat power because Valdez was hurt when he was just even grazed by Stevenson.

I would rate Stevenson among the top 5 pound for pound fighters but I find his style to be lackluster. Valdez doesn't have the best defense and can't take a punch very well. This was Stevenson's opportunity to win in spectacular fashion but he chose to go with a safety first approach. As great as Shakur is, I still think he has a long way to go before he is on the same level as Canelo, Crawford and Fury due to his unwillingness or inability to finish fighters.

He doesn't want to gamble because he has to propose to his girlfriend after the win lol.

Kidding aside, yup, that was a lackluster event for Shakur, he could have hurt the smaller Valdez if goes on the offensive mode but he chooses to be defensive even if he can take Oscar's punches.

Devin Haney is on Team Stevenson's radar per his post-fight interview and I think that would be a boring fight because Haney is also a counter-puncher and has a low KO rate.

So, let's hope that Kambasos will beat Haney so Shakur would again fight an aggressive fighter, a real aggressive fighter. Not fun to watch, but there are boxers nowadays that focus more on defense and calculated offense to win, despite the fact that they are boring to watch.

I hope but I'm afraid we will see the same outcome that we saw today. Haney is a good technical fighter as well, he is very smart in the ring and he can score that would convince the judge to give him the win. These defensive fighters are not expected to give toe to toe, unless their opponent is fast enough to catch them, but in the case of Kambasos, I don't think he is fast enough to catch Haney.

That will be the challenge for Kambosos to score on Haney's defensive maneuvers, might be fun and entertaining to see a both aggressive fighters share the same ring but yes, sometimes technical boxers like Haney has the most chances because just as I said, they are more on calculations so that their punches won't go to waste.


Title: Re: [Boxing] Shakur Stevenson vs Oscar Valdez Title Unification Fight (April 30)
Post by: bisdak40 on May 02, 2022, 09:44:01 PM
Shakur will be a name in the Lightweight division, that's for sure but I doubt that he will be a crowd drawer due to his defensive style which many boxing fans don't appreciate as they find it boring lol.

People will only watch him in a unification fight or against a prospect so selling outside the ring might be useful to him like what Mayweather did hehe.

Locking the thread now and as usual thanks for your comments and speculations about this unification and also congrats to those who won this on fight if there is, an odds of 1.5 via Decision is not too attractive for small-time bettors like us, and even to high rollers if it is on ML many could have pulled the trigger.