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I have final proof this site is complete scam.

I made a deposit for 544 usd to bet to place a bet on a spefic sports game.

They blocked my bet so i tried to withdrawal and they blocked my withdrawal and said if I did not bet they would take my money because it was against they policy.

Then said I said if  they raise my limits i would love to bet and told them i wanted to bet  and then they said we lowed you limits on purpose and we wont raise it.

So they forced me to bet to or they would steal my money and not let me withdrawal.

Very simple they are a scam.

And they say its against there policy but its not in there TOS.

They just want to force me play till i loose. They never say how much i need to bet it just up to them.

I have placed plenty of bet on the site. Is not close to coin mixing . I had won some in past so they wanted to foce me to loose and steal my money.,

After being forced to bet i lost and now i am out 544 usd because they scammed me.



PROOF

CHAT LOGS AND ME TRYING TO WITHDRAWL AND THEM BLOCKING .


https://imgur.com/a/3bZPR9m

Are you a spammer if you are not a scammer then why you are creating multiple topic on same matter and why you are posting the same information on too many posts? it is nothing but spamming. You should avoid this type of spamming. When you will have more information you should edit your post or reply on the same topic instead of creating new topic and posting on several topics.

i am creating in the relevant forums so as many people know about said scam


as you have litelly nothing to sayo on the acutal topic i find it likley you are trying to post your sig or are duelbits shill


as so if anyone is a spammer its you

If your story is really true, I can imagine it's very unfortunate what happened. I don't think Duelbits are to blame. If the situation really were, then you should just stop placing bets and settle it right away with Dueblbits. No one is telling you that you have to place bets, you do that all by yourself. You chose to gamble yourself, you could also have chosen to post this story on the forum without continuing to gamble.

They said on chat that you cannot withdraw if you bet only a small portion . Bookmaker (even fiat!) require at least 1x wagering of your deposit... You are not using a mixer.
You have to comply with their terms and conditions.
This not a scam if you have loss a bet.

they said i had to bet or they would keep my money look at prrofs

When you will be scammed you have to post on scam accusation board. Posting on any other board will be something like off topic. If you post on all the board and on all the topic then you have to post 24 hours per day and it will take a several months/years and in the meantime you will be banned from the Forum. For your kind information I am not any part of duelbit. If I were a part of the duelbit then I would tell you not to post.

^ At your title page, it says $545 but in the context of your thread it says $544, it seems you already lied this way.
Now in your case, why you deposit if you don't want to bet? Gambling casinos (mostly) will not allow users to withdraw their funds after depositing, it requires first a wager amount before they will do it, and at the second place what is the purpose of depositing your money there. Because this is a possible cause of money laundering when you deposit on gambling casino in withdrawal back.

RELEVENT forums gambling and scam forums guess you dont speak English as your first language

They tell you to bet some because its their wager policy, you can’t just deposit and withdraw without playing because of so many frauds happening in this market, they can’t let scammer to get away easily and used the site as an instrument for fraud.

Now if you already lose the money from betting, then how come its a scam where you are the one playing with your own money? What’t the first reason on depositing with Duelbits? To gamble right?

are you stupid ?


lol i mistyped by 1$ also dif you read at all?

i did want to bet but they blocked my bets only allowing me to withdrawl if i placed bets they wanted

they limted my account on purpose, they even said it , did you looj at proofs ?

no because then you would no look like a troll

You lose the money because you bet and lose, I don't see on the chat that they are trying to scam you, you simply don't know how to follow a simple rule you need to wage, are you trying to deposit and withdraw and just use the casino to make a transfer from one wallet to another, based on my understanding you deposit you play and you lose, now you are complaining where is the part that they scam you.

^ I think you are.
Why it is hard for you to understand that there is a wagering requirement before you can initiate a withdrawal and that is on their wager policy.
You have also a lack of proof, if you wanted to create a scam thread against them it should a complete proof including the amount of the fund. Who is trolling now? Did you think a reputable casino will ruin their name on that amount? And besides, that is not a scam because you bet and you lose probably. Just accept the fact and next time don't make a deposit if you will not gamble them all.

It's your fault for not reading their terms and conditions or privacy and policy. It is clearly stated that you cannot withdraw the deposited funds if you didn't wager the required amount. I don't know the required amount but you should follow the rules or policy then you can withdraw your crypto to your wallet. Just by showing that chat log won't help you what you are claiming about dulebits scamming you. You may call it scam if the balance in your account is not in there and you can't use it to bet.

It requires you to bet some but they didn’t tell you to bet everything, so most probably you didn’t scam here and you just lose your money because of being greedy.

Many site requires you to wage some, so this is a normal procedure from Duelbits, the problem here is that you want to withdraw the money without playing and that is already suspicious that’s why they require you to have some bet first.

Yes, that's true and my question is why would he not play in a casino when he deposits what is his purpose in the first place deposit, bet a small amount then withdraw the money, is that it, it's really suspicious it's more like money laundering to me although it's a small amount I figure that he wants to test with a small amount and go for a big amount later if they allow him to withdraw.

Based on your story, you lose the money because of your bet and not because the site scam you, the headline is misleading and also the comments here, are not about the scam but about your being suspicious OP.

If they tell you to gamble and place a bet how come it becomes a scam? Duelbits is a huge site, you can’t just get away on their system even if its a small money, you should still to follow the rules and play the game so you can avoid this kind of problem.

I'm laughing my ass out here, you deposit, you bet and you lose and you file a scam complaint if all gamblers will do that all casinos are a scam because they let you lose, this guy thought casinos are a cash cow, this is gambling, you follow the rules if you do not agree with the rules then don't sign up or deposit and play elsewhere where you are comfortable with the rules or they let you win, let's see if you can find one.

You followed what they've told you to bet and then you lose. They've given you instructions so that you won't be against their rules. There have been several accusations not just on them but with other legitimate and reputable casinos that had tried to twist the story. And upon betting, you lose your money.
You gambled and that's the other way around when you bet on it and you just can't say that they are scams because you lose. Next time before you gamble, make sure that you're willing to lose because that's what gambling life is.

When you deposit fund to an online casino you must have to make bet (maximum casino), and without a certain percentage of wagering you cant withdraw the fund. It stands for avoiding fraudster as well as money laundering. If you cant place bet then there is no legit to deposit on any online gambling site.

There is no scam here that I see based on the evidence provided in the screenshots.
OP deposited and withdrawn without placing a bet so it got blocked. The support allowed him to withdraw provided that he promises not to do it again, or bets the money. I guess he chose to bet the money and lost it, then he started this defamatory thread.

Next time make sure there's enough evidence to support your claim because posting a conversation where they tell you that they blocked the withdrawal but will allow it to go through but only this one time proves nothing. They played fair if you ask me, you did not.

I've had problems with deposits and withdrawals against certain gambling sites, but not on the DUELBITS.COM site, I had a conversation with the site regarding my problems, did not immediately open accusations for them, quickly they responded well, all done.

I think the OP with DUELBITS.COM just misunderstood, I'm not sure DUELBITS.COM is trying to scam you with a $544 budget, The DUELBITS.COM site is quite fair and reliable in this forum in bonus and competency games every week they don't mind distributing to participants up to tens of $$.

Have you read the deposit and withdrawal rules on the DUELBITS.COM site or have you contacted them for this matter, I think if you are right they will take it seriously, except: you violated their rules or violations that we don't know about, only the DUELBITS.COM site and you know about this problem.

He loses his bet so he is creating false accusations he is the one who started it by depositing and not following minimum wage and when he does he lose it and now complaining that he is forced by Duelbits to lose if he won I doubt if he will complain this is an immature gambler you should not sign up, deposit or play if you are not aware of the rules that the casino laid out.

You are not being forced to bet, but it is all about rules. You made a deposit means that you are going to bet, if there is a betting limit then you should accept it as most other bookies has their own betting limit. Once you are limited and you want to withdraw what you deposited without making significant wager, no sites will allow that. You lost your money because your bet(s) were lost, if you won the bets will you complain?

OP you need to clarify a few things:

1 - First you used DUELBITS.COM where you deposited 1480$ and according to you DUELBITS.COM canceled your withdrawal and you lost that money, is that?

2 - you returned to use DUELBITS.COM even though you had lost 1480$ on the site due to your withdrawal being canceled

3 - you're complaining that they didn't let you play the games you wanted and then you had to play the games you didn't want and ended up losing all your money. is that?

before I ask you so many questions I just want you to clarify these two points, if possible post print screen

what i was wondering is that 544 dollars? and Duelbits will scam you?

do you know how big this casino is? just to make scamming that amount? though possibilities are there yet why for the first time in this forum just now that there is a issue of scamming from their site and with just hundreds of dollars?

He wanted to withdraw without making a bet. I would like to know why? If he did not want to bet, there is no point depositing the money in the casino. Casino has certain rules which everyone needs to follow. You cannot use casinos for money laundering purposes.  8)
If he had won the bet, he would have been allowed to withdraw and he would have never complained.  :)
He is frustrated because he has lost the bet.

The proof did not satisfy any of us here, because we understand how a casino works, you are not forced to bet but there's always a minimum wage and you don't deposit and withdraw by playing the minimum amount it will set an alarm on that account, it's stipulated in the rules that you cannot use casino for money laundering and OP action is considered money laundering.

You failed to read their terms and conditions before depositing on duelbit and also as others have pointed out you lose all the bets so ideally, you lost the money because your bets did not win, I will advise you always read the T$C of the casinos before creating an account on them.

OP you just have to lay your complaints in a professional way. They are sections for this type of dispute. You can as well drop a comment on their official thread. If you strongly believe that they are not trust worthy more people will learn about this on their thread. Most people who use Duelbits may not get to know about this as you claim if you spam especially in the wrong forum. It's important to hit the complaints in front of them and get a responsive reply that will satisfy you too.

 But what did they said about the bet limits !
 
 Sometimes when trying placing a bet there is just some error that stucking it, and it pass after retry !

Okay the only complaint here really is that they didn't let you incerase your limits, which lead to you trying to withdraw. But THAT action is against their TOS, which can clearly be read here:
https://duelbits.com/aml (https://duelbits.com/aml)
To quote:
Now I couldn't find the "percentage" needed from there, maybe people who've experienced or seen it could tell (I didn't see it or didn't really take notice of it). So really, it's just you OP that didn't properly look at their TOS. Maybe you could've tried to do the KYC requirements they need, if that was okay with you anyway. Though I guess the opportunity is gone now.

I think your guess is close to reality because have been playing in Duelbits for years now and i even participated in their campaign as in my own experience the support is constantly answering problems and this is why i doubt what OP is claiming here, the support wont just block him with 544 dollars in claim .
and this also open some thinking about how and why he was blocked because it is clearly show that the team responding to his Issue from the beginning .

Where is the  photo of this ? that the team says you need to bet or they would keep your money locked?  the Image you shared is just a part of
the conversation so best to put the complete conversation here so everyone will look deeper into your case and not just something that we can speculate.
I know that there is something happens aside from your shared image and that is what we need to see.
and also try answering this post above as it was really means a lot in this topic .

I'm just wondering when @OP can come back here again and explain the update he's had since the last time he told his story. From the last conversation, it seems that the site has already refunded his money. Still, he can't withdraw the money if he doesn't place a certain amount of bet.

But maybe he can place a bet for a few games and play a few games. Hopefully, whatever the outcome, it will help him withdraw his money, even if he can't withdraw all the money. In this case, I would only suggest not depositing too much money. Otherwise, it will get you in trouble later.

I see this complaints on Duelbits ANN thread and ignore him because the screenshot he is providing only shows how illogical he thinks when understanding duelbits support statement about coin mixing explanation.


The guy probably lose his balance and try to blame duelbits for not allowing his balance to be withdrawn by the time he request it. He is using us here to sympathy for him and hope for the casino to fund his balance. I experience this kind of incident the first time I use duelbits. I deposit 100$ and lose interest in gambling while choosing the card game that I want to play. That support hold my withdrawal and send that exact message.

I just bet few buck on blackjack then they already allowed my withdrawal. The OP seems taking it personally and he might overlook the statement that he needs to bet same amount of his canceled  bet before he can withdraw.

Duelbits is a renowned gambling site although this is founded in 2020 if i'm not mistake. But within very short time i think it’s pretty popular and also highly transparent, I have an account and i played a few games even i already successfully withdraw
over thousands of dollars, here i don’t believe they stolen only 545$, i see they clearly said that you violated their policies.

it's really sad to see posts created like this without a clear intention  , OP does not even provide complete details of the case and also proofs before posting similar like this considering that he is fighting against one of the most popular and fastest growing gambling site here in crypto community and the sad part is that the claims stands only for small amount of money considering that there are no case filed against Duelbits for years that has this kind of amount.
hoping that there will be clarification about this in the nearest time because this is not good in both party .

Join any gambling site and deposit an amount of money...then do not wager and try to withdraw that money... and you might get the same response from that gambling site. This is a typical "money laundering" flag with most casinos... so it is standard operating procedures to encourage the person to gamble some of that money... to enable them to activate the withdrawal.

A money launderer does not want to lose any money on their deposits, because they simply want to try and "clean" the whole amount and then withdraw the money. (if they are asked.... they will say they won the money from a casino)  ::)

Now, I am not saying OP is trying to launder the money that he deposited.. he might simply have done this... without any intention to launder any money... but the reaction to this kind of action is the same. (Most casinos will allow you to withdraw, once you wagered some of that money.... win or lose, they will give you your money)  ;)

Besides, if he didn't want to bet, why would he deposit his money into a gambling site? Or, for example, he wants to launder his money, he can use an existing mixer site and get his money back.

Maybe it wouldn't make sense if someone just wanted to deposit their money and keep it on a gambling site without wanting to play. After all, most of the mistakes people make are depositing large amounts, especially if they just created their account a few days ago or just created it yesterday.

Agreed. This is a protocol that any gambling site would most likely do as well. We cannot really fight about this with the casinos because they have some grounds to do such because of some wavering signs of laundering act regarding this same situations. Maybe, OP wasn’t able to fully grasp why this has happened and it had to become this way for him when he deposited and wanted to withdraw after.

Because he/she has no strong proof against Duelbits, and even i heard first time a claim about this gambling site, because i'm was regular user in this platform, and i never faced any issue to deposit/withdrawals. Yeah, it's unbelievable that duelbits will do this scam for such small amount of money if considering the biggest gambling site.

Duelbits is a gambling website that has been slowly creating its reputation on the gambling sphere. Fortunately, it also has an active campaign signature (where I am currently participating with) in which they give consistent payments weekly.

In your issue OP, I highly doubt that the team of Duelbits would do something so trivial as to cause the years of their efforts attempting to establish themselves as one of the leading gambling websites, to be put to waste. If you have any questions or problems, I also suggest that you reach to their customer service and ask for an explanation.

You may also want to create a thread under the "scam accusation board" if you feel that you have substantial proof against Duelbits. Again, what you are experiencing is very unfortunate but I do hope that it gets fixed quickly.

At least to me it seems as if the one that started this thread did not really read the TOS of the casino in which they were playing, almost any casino these days has a wagering requirement in order to prevent hackers and scammers for laundering their money with them and using them as mixers by depositing suspicious coins and then withdrawing clean coins, so the support just pointed out this to him and then once he wagered his money he lost it, and now he is arguing this casino is a scam when this does not seems to be the case.

Most players who make such accusations fail to follow the term and conditions of the casino because looking closely and understanding the ops point it all ball down to the fact that the ops made a mistake and lose the money during the bet.

I don`t see scam here. The support correctly tell what the OP has to do. The often problem is that the user doesn`t read ToS and starts arguing after the problem appears. If i understand correctly, in this situation looks like the OP deposited money and decided to withdraw it without betting. In cryptocurrencies it looks like using casino as mixer, and support answered the same. The best way was to make 1-2 bets and withdraw without any problems.

As far as I know, gambling sites are not like this before. They are not strict when it comes to withdrawals and deposits but now that cryptos are more into regulation (at least to the extend what I feel), they are now requiring documents and the reason why it's now being regulated is because cryptos are now popular therefore the scams and other criminal/illegal activities have also gone through the roof.

OP may not be a launderer, I guess, because he said he was playing already before on that casino. (For the people that doesn't want to risk anything, they shouldn't use a gambling site but they should have use a real coin mixing services).

I have the impression that more and more casinos have their own trolls who, like maniacs, try to accuse of scam when they themselves do not comply with the terms of the rules.
Of course that in this case it would be enough to do 1x wagering and there would be no problem with withdrawal. As for limits, it is also stated in (probably) every ToS that the casino can set them individually.
We must read the rules carefully to avoid such misunderstandings. Unfortunately, when someone does not do it, and their complaint is considered negatively, then they unload their frustration by spamming the forum with this type of accusations.

because  gambling sites are being abused by people who's only wanted is to take advantage of the availability of the casino sites to use as Mixing site , they will send funds and then withdraw with other wallet so they can hide their transactions .
If OP does not mean Laundering then why deposit a funds and tries to withdraw without even playing? that attitude is already questionable , and also not because he told us that he played in the past is indeed we must believe in , remember that in desperation he will say everything to make the gambling site looks guilty .

Industries change and adapt to the circumstances in which they work, I remember the days as well in which you could withdraw your money without any wager requirements, but hackers and scammers kept using casinos as a way to launder their coins, I think that even without regulations casinos would have at some point taken the same measures, as it would have been exasperating for them to be used by people they knew were criminals and that will not stop unless they did something.

Because this is how the first cryptocurrency casinos worked. They were completely anonymous and it was a wild west for money laundering. If the casino still wants to remain anonymous but avoid problems with the law, it must at least take the minimum of security steps which in this case are 1x wagering. As for me, it's completely justified and I don't see any scam here.

It is that simple, casino owners can implement any policy they may like as it is their right, however I do not see this policy as being abusive or anything like that, years ago when those policies did not existed malicious people took advantage of the casinos and then they had to deal with the aftermath, so they decided to implement something like this in order to protect themselves, now I understand that this can be bothersome for some users but I do not think we can expect casinos to forfeit wager requirements anytime soon.

This is a classic case of not following the rules properly and blaming the casino for your own mistakes. Op could have easily acquired his money by wagering it all by x1 using strategies that involve minimal risk.

Some examples are betting on both the banker and player in Baccarat(Small commission on banker), 1.01 dice betting etc. He clearly needs to improve his brain-power.

If we are to look at the "facts" objectively and how you have presented supposed proof of wrongdoing by Duelbits, then you have not satisfied even basic requirements. If you were to present the information in this thread in front of a judge in a court of law, you would get thrown out because you only offer conjecture and the screenshots you seem to think constitute proof do not tell us any such thing. Those screenshots show a deposit and a refund, along with a chat conversation log stating that you're using some sort of promotion that makes it against the rules to withdraw - now if you didn't understand the terms of a promo that is one thing you'll have to learn, they are commonly used as hooks but that is because they come with all sorts of restrictions - that seems to be the issue here.

I actually would agree with OP that this is not best practice for a casino.

Do I think that OP should have been more careful before depositing to see the appropriate limits that are applicable? Yes.

But at the same time I think that Duelbits should have considered OP's case separately. This is not a huge amount that OP is depositing, and it was clear that he is only wanting to bet on a specific event. So why force him?

Well, you don't need to go into banter with any user just make sure to post the necessary evidence to see if duelbit truly committed that fraud against your account, and avoid posting your case on different topics just to get the attention you can as well use this thread and keep updating as the case goes. I hope duelbit will do something positive with your account they are among the most reputable casinos on this forum and their representatives here are active.

I don't think that this is a valid case at all.

OP, you are essentially saying that you haven't read their Terms of Service before depositing funds.

For casinos, they need to ensure that people aren't using them to launder money or to use them as a wallet (because their wallet infrastructure costs them money). So it does make sense for them to ban you from withdrawing if you haven't done anything on their platform. You should have researched the limits before you deposited.

^ That was what I am thinking too, how OP ended up losing all of his money, the requirement is just to have a minimal wager before OP can execute withdrawal but unfortunately, it is losing all the balance left. You can play your money even how small it is and meet the requirements of the wagering policy and probably you will enjoy and don't have control and it is ended up losing his all money. I understand the casino rule and as a gambler, we should practice reading first the TOS before proceeding with it.

It is quite normal that you have to make a wager when you have made a deposit on a gambling site. I'm sure Duelbits really isn't going to scam people. They have a huge budget for their campaign and promotions, signature campaign has also been active since they have been on the forum. If we summarize the story, the op has gambled his money, without being forced to do so. There's little you can do about that. Maybe other casinos would have handled it differently, but that's irrelevant.

Even if op did read their terms of service or terms and conditions something like that then op would still receive same response in other gambling sites. As what Kakmakr said, the act of depositing any amount and then withdraw is an act of money laundering even if you are the only one who had access to the account. Why?. Most gambling sites have this terms and conditions or privacy and policy to prevent gamblers to use their gambling site as a way to launder money. In my opinion, even though the gambling site have rules like that but it still could be use in laundering money though I haven't heard any news or witnessing it myself.

Is he doing this to other casinos and getting away from it, or he is just a complete newbie we are all saying that there is something wrong with your behavior, you are not going to join and deposit in a casino and withdraw without a wage you cannot justify your complaint with your action, all casino requires a wage so this is a lesson learned for you don't gamble if you are ignorant on how a casino works it will backfire, this is a lesson for newbies who don't understand how casinos works.

With those things that you've mentioned, it only proves that they're a serious company and doing a serious business.

Well, some things like this are always existing when they don't end up with a good result as they gamble. There could be other the same stories that when someone can't just accept what has happened despite all legal processes has been made within the platform.

And that's why they tend to make some excuses and blames the casino because it's hard to accept defeat and asks the sympathy of those people where they're telling their story that has been combined with twisted statement.

And I would like to know why someone make a deposit in casino if he don't want to play in it?

I doubt that anyone would make such a deposit by mistake, and even if they changed their mind after making the deposit and did not want to take the risk of gambling, they should understand that it is their mistake and in order to withdraw money without any problems, you must follow the TOS rules.

the OP wanted to place a bet but it was blocked by the casino. I don't know what reason why his bet was blocked since he never explained it.

the deposit was not a mistake. the OP has the intention of gambling on the website but when his bet was blocked, he decided to withdraw which also got blocked because of the wagering requirements. anyway, no scamming happened, the OP is angry because he didn't get what he wanted.

As i see, the OP tried to bet but the limits were too low for him. I think that this is the OP mistake that he didn`t make a research before deposit. And after the bet was blocked his withdrawal was blocked as mixing. I think that he ought to make 1-2 bets on other games, even if he don`t want it and after that to withdraw.

Duelbits.com is advertising here and forum and conducting multiple events and this is the first time we heard an scam accusation , and also with cheap claims , I'm not sure that this really have a good proof to provide.
Good point , with a casino that as completely good reputation and this is the first stone that had been thrown to them? seemingly not constant.
This is an normal attitude of cheaters and some those paid FUD to bring a good casino down.

Also, I have the impression that it is not a coincidence that someone is spamming the forum with accusations in this way. After all, it is easy to understand that it is enough to do 1x wagering to safely withdraw money. If it's done smart, it can be done with really minimal risk. In this case, it seems the OP didn't even want to try. I would not like to accuse, because there is no evidence of it, but for me such behavior is very suspicious.

If the casino will try to scam, they will go for a bigger amount, not a 545 USD only. Anyway, I am a bit confuse why this thread has not move to the scam accusation board, probably because OP's evidence is not sufficient enough?

OP has already created a thread on the same topic in the accusation section: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5386203.0
He created similar threads in a few other places. Therefore, I think that this is a strange behavior, because instead of trying to clarify this case and withdraw money, it all looks as if he cares most about slandering the name of DUELBITS.COM. It is possible that someone just wants to damage the image of Duelbits.

So after Duelbits  stole your 545 dollars as what you completely claimed in your 12 posts since your account creation

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3448104;sa=showPosts

why now that you are missing in action here in forum? after claiming those words that they have stolen your money now you just gave up like that?

or maybe there are some posts here that taken your main intention and brings here so you gave up?

I see, thanks for giving me the complete information. Maybe he was frustrated that he is not getting the sympathy he wants. I should tell him that we have a fair community here, if his evidence are valid, then most likely DT would reg tagged DUELBITS.COM for doing that.

I don't think it's the first scam accusation that I've ever seen on them. There have been others too but they don't make sense as they're like repetitive accusations.

What's constant is that these gamblers can't accept what has happened to them and just blame the casino where they've gambled because they've lost a lot.

You'll keep on seeing them when they're frustrated, paid or not.

That’s the thing and reason Duelbit gave in the first place while rejecting his support ticket. He was in short doing the money laundering thing by using the casino cashier. It would be worth seeing how they will resolve the matter. Firstly, it was not a mistake at all. Secondly I have started to think why such big casino would ever steal 500 bucks from the random guy. They have proper TOS set out and they’re more than happy to return it if it’s not violated.

That’s what it is getting fired off from the discussion above.

If you will read the screenshot of the OP, He actually made a bet but duelbits refund his bet due to unknown reason which OP didn’t emphasize on his report. This is actually just a misunderstanding on OP side since he became worry by the time Duelbits didn’t allow his first bet to be placed or refunded before the match result shown, Either way the OP is not actually planning to money laundering since he really make a bet. He just don’t fully understand how the AML policy works on a casino. I believe this issue is already solved since Op is not updating anymore here.

As far as understood the issue here, no money has been stolen, not even a cent. The OP has just wager limitation and he refused to have that. He wanted to bet more than his limit. We still do not know what was the reason of his account receiving a bet limit sanction, the OP didn't share the reason behind it. More than that, he just deposited his money, because he did not accept the limit, he wanted to withdraw the funds which he just deposited. That is prohibited since there is a possibility that the money is being laundered.

He did give the reason why the funds were blocked - and that is because he didn't hit a betting threshold.

I personally don't see how money laundering can occur here (or at least on a massive scale). If he wanted to mix his coins he is much better off going to a coin mixer as opposed to a centralised casino.

Besides, this is a very small amount, and it was clear that he wanted to bet on a single event (which has a lower limit than expected). Duelbits has the right to uphold their ToS, of course, but to me this is an honest mistake.

^ Because OP did not read the TOS and that is the reason why the casino did not allow the withdrawal request because there are wager requirements and this was on the TOS that they should uphold. This is very common, people think that the casinos are can be used as a coin mixer as well and they will move out their coin to a clean wallet which is no one can trace on it, probably that was the purpose of OP and thinking that way. However, this honest mistake was nothing to do, Duelbits will still no need to blame.

Bro, I respect your opinion he should have opted to go to coin mixer that is the right to do if he has the intention to use a gateway to transfer his funds, we have one here ignoring, or not aware of the rule and this is the repercussion of that action we all know that casinos and exchange have rules on our action and we are bounded by rules if we are planning to do something that is opposed to the rule there is a support that we can contact, we cannot bring a good casino down you have to prove that your intention isnot meant to break the rule.

Well it is accusation when there are someone accusing the site but the thing is are those really matters? and really executory ? and you are correct those are just BS accusation and cannot be proven that's why i said that it is not considered as scam accusation for me because non of those had been proven.
but let it be there .
as long as i know that Duelbits is one of the most reputable and trust worthy gambling site that i played over the years.

I just cannot imagine that a trusted and well-reputable gambling website would go on to such extent as to steal $54 from a player.

Like what I mentioned before, it takes years of consistency and effort for a gambling website to earn its reputation. Another thing, it has to offer several promotions and services in order to at least attract more people into trying out their gambling website. I really doubt that duelbits would risk ruining their reputation for such a relatively small amount of money. Probably, it is OP who was not able to read the TOS of the website which thus experienced this unfortunate scenario.

$545 is definitely not a small amount in my opinion. Op could technically keep depositing that amount and withdrawing it again and again which is basically money laundering on a massive scale.

This isn't Duelbit's mistake at all since they were following their TOS properly. Fault lies on op who either didn't read the TOS and wagering tricks or engaged in money laundering.

honest mistake of what? OP depositing on the casino without knowing that he needs to complete a wagering requirement in order to withdraw the money he deposited? judging from the OP's post history this is not the first time he has deposited and gambled on a gambling site. I am pretty sure that he knows that depositing on a gambling site would require him to complete a wagering requirement in order to withdraw his money.

That matters somehow if the casino is thinking of the feedback of everyone.

But when it becomes too much and hard to handle based on the attitude of these accusers then the casino will simply ignore them. There's no need for them to spend their precious time dealing with these people that can't accept defeat and normal process.

Everyone knows that they're a reputable casino and there will always be accusations that are pointless to discuss when it's already been answered by the casino.

Duelbits has a good reputation and has had no problems with gamblers. This doesn't really seem like a problem to me. Duelbits drafted the terms and conditions (which are very realistic in my view) and the user agreed to them when he registered. Of course, the casino could have solved it in a different way, but that is irrelevant. A site may take the terms and conditions as an indicator on making decisions. And if you make a deposit on a site, and want to cash out without wagering or at odds of 1.01? That's pretty close to trying to launder money. In any case, that is not the behavior of a serious gambler.

Just close the thread. I think that even the OP understood that he made a mistake. The Duelbits support answered the OP question and will not do anything more. They answered fully and i think the OP knows that they are right and just trying to draw attention to him and in such a way force Duelbits to change their decision.

Mistake may happen for amount not for the deposit. For example any may want to deposit 100$ but by typo error it might be 1000$ or something like that. And if no wagger required then the scammer will take that chance and they will hack/steal fund from others and then deposit to a gambling site and then they will fly away by taking the white fund from a gambling site. And all the liability will be upon the gambling site.

yeah but we knew that scam sites don't matter about scam accusation and they are just denying that fact .

But knowing about DuelBits.com? this is one of the most and fastest growing gambling site , and with all the events and give away This site brings to the community ? i don't believe that Duelbits.com will scam a player with such cheap amount .

And legit sites also not aware about the negative response/feedback/claim from all users. Because many users accuse something wrong for their wrong activity or misuse of the service. For example if you deposit in one method and then try to withdraw on another method then the site may ban the account or ask to verify the identity. Those who do this will say they have been scammed or something like that but they are not right and at a time the site will be stopped responding their question.