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Title: Bill passed requiring drunk drivers to pay child support if they kill parents Post by: Hydrogen on April 22, 2022, 11:34:36 PM Quote The bill is named after the daughters of a police officer killed in a DUI hit-and-run The Tennessee legislature passed a bill Wednesday that would require drunk drivers to pay child support if they kill a parent and are convicted of vehicular homicide due to intoxication. The legislation passed through the Tennessee Senate on Wednesday following an amendment to rename the bill after the two daughters of state police officer Nicholas Galinger, who was killed in a hit-and-run by a drunk driver in 2019, according to CBS 46. The legislation, which has yet to be signed into law, requires DUI drivers convicted of either vehicular homicide or aggravated vehicular homicide due to intoxication to pay child support if a parent killed in a crash has any minor children. The payments would continue until each child reaches 18 years old and graduates from high school. Galinger's killer, Janet Hind, drove into him from behind while he was investigating a manhole cover overflowing with water. Hind was intoxicated at the time and was sentenced to 11 years in prison in February. https://www.foxnews.com/us/tennessee-drunk-driver-child-support-parent-death .... They're proposing a law where drunk drivers who accidentally run into & kill parents, pay child support to their surviving children until they reach the age of 18 and legally become adults. My first thought is, I don't know if drunk drivers have cash to afford this. Most drunk drivers are young adults likely to have large amounts of student loan debt and entry level income. It is an interesting idea and novel concept. I'm not certain what the normal process is for children whose parents are unfortunately hit by drunk drivers. I guess they would end up in an orphanage? Another interesting movement is cars and trucks having breathalyzers installed on them. So that the engine can't be started unless a person breathes into the breathalyzer and has an alcohol statistic below the legal limit. We have many reactionary penalties and punishments for law breakers. Could a preventionary measure where good behavior is rewarded also have a niche place in society? What if a crypto currency was created which rewarded users for every week they remained sober? In an effort to diminish alcohol and substance abuse. If there are shitcoin developers on this planet who play 5D chess with their crypto token designs, what would it look like? Title: Re: Bill passed requiring drunk drivers to pay child support if they kill parents Post by: ultrloa on April 22, 2022, 11:50:12 PM The cases related on drunk driving rise up and there are so many casualties per year recorded as per statistical records show so this law created give justice to the child who's parent are victimized on this unfortunate incident. And maybe thru this law the cases will low since there's a law that will totally add more weight to their case if they got involve on the said case.
Title: Re: Bill passed requiring drunk drivers to pay child support if they kill parents Post by: DanWalker on April 23, 2022, 02:31:16 AM This should be widely applied so that drinkers are aware of the consequences they will have to bear if an incident occurs. We can't stop companies from shutting down beer, but we can put in place tough laws to prevent overuse and injury to others. In my country, the government has just increased the penalty for drinking while driving. Accordingly, just drinking 2 cans of beer with an alcohol content, the driver will be fined 60 days and have to pay a fine according to regulations, the fine I see has increased 3 times compared to the old fine.
Title: Re: Bill passed requiring drunk drivers to pay child support if they kill parents Post by: cabron on April 23, 2022, 03:15:54 AM Well we can't just let them have the free pass for parents responsibility and let the kids suffer while them in jail making their assholes wider. If the drunk can work to make money inside the jail its best that he should. Its time they better have another skill than drinking and driving carelessly. Its very unfair to parents that died.
Janet Hind is there in jail not even thinking what happen to Galinger, probably not even remembering what happen. So she feels her conscience is clean but if we put a heavier responsibilities on her shoulder, she'd work to pay. Title: Re: Bill passed requiring drunk drivers to pay child support if they kill parents Post by: adaseb on April 23, 2022, 03:19:42 AM Yes it’s very interesting however they need to consider a few things first. Like if the driver is convicted, he will most likely go to jail for 5-15 years. They can’t pay child support from jail. And another issue is what if the driver is someone who is young and has no job and money. Or someone old without money.
This would obviously work out if the driver was someone rich however most people are not rich. Generally when this happens it’s usually the insurance company of the drunk driver that would cover some damages. And maybe if the father had some type of life insurance policy. Title: Re: Bill passed requiring drunk drivers to pay child support if they kill parents Post by: Gyfts on April 23, 2022, 03:51:57 AM If you're victim to a drunk driving accident and live, you're entitled to file a civil suit against the person which will result in financial liability. If you die, your family has that right, and in DUI manslaughter cases, or any case for that matter, I believe the U.S. allows for an automatic settlement/victory for the litigants in a civil suit if the same defendant is convicted for the same crime in a criminal court. The law seems a bit redundant because I imagine in civil cases that wages would be garnished if the settlement can't be paid at once.
Title: Re: Bill passed requiring drunk drivers to pay child support if they kill parents Post by: molsewid on April 23, 2022, 12:45:52 PM Yes it’s very interesting however they need to consider a few things first. Like if the driver is convicted, he will most likely go to jail for 5-15 years. They can’t pay child support from jail. And another issue is what if the driver is someone who is young and has no job and money. Or someone old without money. This would obviously work out if the driver was someone rich however most people are not rich. Generally when this happens it’s usually the insurance company of the drunk driver that would cover some damages. And maybe if the father had some type of life insurance policy. I think that this bill has a purposed of good intention to the victim and to the family he/she leave due to an unexpected accidents or death and with that being said I would agree with you mate that this law should come in some consideration like a driver convicted go to jail because probably he/she couldn't fulfill this bill. With this kind of thread being discussed here it just remind us either we placed in both situation we should have an asset set aside for any emergency situation not just to pay our action but to continue support our family. Title: Re: Bill passed requiring drunk drivers to pay child support if they kill parents Post by: palle11 on April 23, 2022, 03:06:18 PM Yes it’s very interesting however they need to consider a few things first. Like if the driver is convicted, he will most likely go to jail for 5-15 years. They can’t pay child support from jail. And another issue is what if the driver is someone who is young and has no job and money. Or someone old without money. But someone has to take responsibility for killing an innocent person because of their intentional act of getting intoxicated. That is why it is said if you are drunk don't drive and if you are driving don't drink. So if such order is violated it becomes intentional action and someone has to take responsibility for that. The policy is a good one to caution people who are fund of being drunk while driving and to cover the responsibility of the lost in the family. Anyway maybe a little more on the policy to ensure it covers all aspects. This would obviously work out if the driver was someone rich however most people are not rich. Generally when this happens it’s usually the insurance company of the drunk driver that would cover some damages. And maybe if the father had some type of life insurance policy. In this I think every driving license should be tied to an insurance policy for the insurance company to take care of such killing of innocent people and the people left behind. Title: Re: Bill passed requiring drunk drivers to pay child support if they kill parents Post by: hugeblack on April 23, 2022, 03:31:53 PM I think that driving trucks is the most useful area for automated driving if pre-determined tracks for these trailers are set, so that the driver’s role becomes complementary, and this role may be abolished in the future.
The bill is interesting, but it remains difficult for this person to pay the expenses, especially since most truck drivers do not have the extra money to bear the expenses of a child or several children. I had hoped that these expenses would be directed to the companies that employ these drivers and thus would improve the selection criteria instead of bearing the consequences of the expenses of these minor children. Title: Re: Bill passed requiring drunk drivers to pay child support if they kill parents Post by: wxa7115 on April 23, 2022, 03:43:49 PM If you're victim to a drunk driving accident and live, you're entitled to file a civil suit against the person which will result in financial liability. If you die, your family has that right, and in DUI manslaughter cases, or any case for that matter, I believe the U.S. allows for an automatic settlement/victory for the litigants in a civil suit if the same defendant is convicted for the same crime in a criminal court. The law seems a bit redundant because I imagine in civil cases that wages would be garnished if the settlement can't be paid at once. Thanks for the information, when taken in that context the law may seem to be redundant, the only way in which I could see this not being the case is if the drunk driver will now need to pay both of those penalties or if the adjudication of the child support is automatic and the family does not need to go thought trial to get it.Anyway it is an interesting proposal and at least to me it is better than to send someone to prison, let them work and try to repay those most affected by this with their efforts as a way to atone for their irreparable mistake. Title: Re: Bill passed requiring drunk drivers to pay child support if they kill parents Post by: merchantofzeny on April 23, 2022, 05:27:21 PM This is actually good. Might not be still enough deterrent for the idiots and assholes out there but it does help make up a little for the damage they've done. Is the payment per parent? Like if both parents died do the child get double the amount? I don't know the laws there but I believe in cases like this you can already sue for "damages" anyway
We have many reactionary penalties and punishments for law breakers. Could a preventionary measure where good behavior is rewarded also have a niche place in society? I think a little more penalty is really needed these days coz it's seems we are going backwards when it comes to punishing crimes. Either they get a slap on the wrist (for example some places they practically legalized shoplifting) or it's citizens that are made to suffer (a criminal can sue - and win - if he injured himself robbing your house). Title: Re: Bill passed requiring drunk drivers to pay child support if they kill parents Post by: Pomogator on April 23, 2022, 06:20:03 PM Due to the availability of the car in our time, a huge number of inadequate and headless drivers. Such laws can affect the understanding of a person who thinks to drive drunk. As the saying goes, laws are made with blood. Driving drunk is the most irresponsible act.
Title: Re: Bill passed requiring drunk drivers to pay child support if they kill parents Post by: TheCoinGrabber on April 23, 2022, 06:39:37 PM Sounds about right. The money should be way larger than what the family is losing from the breadwinner dying though. Thing is, how is the family going to get paid if the convicted just decided to go to jail. It's like sending the dad to jail for missing child support.
I like OP's idea of the breathananlyzer in the car. I believe there are already cars that require biometrics to turn on (usually the fingerprint) so this shouldn't be something farfetched. Car detects you are too intoxicated, it locks down and calls a driving service for you. Though I suppose self-driving cars would make all these unnecessary. Title: Re: Bill passed requiring drunk drivers to pay child support if they kill parents Post by: Cookdata on April 23, 2022, 07:42:50 PM Due to the availability of the car in our time, a huge number of inadequate and headless drivers. Such laws can affect the understanding of a person who thinks to drive drunk. As the saying goes, laws are made with blood. Driving drunk is the most irresponsible act. If you're drunk, you should never handle a car stirring but intoxicants will never listen. Let's even say the driver is not drunk, anyone who killed any parent must compensate the deceased family. Accidents happen and sometimes we can't avoid it but what will come out of a drunkard with debts? how will they support a child when they have their own problems? This bill may be hard to implement. I have also learnt that responsible alcohol drunker don't drink to a stupor to the point that they lose their sense. The idea of new projects exploring this trend wouldn't last. Title: Re: Bill passed requiring drunk drivers to pay child support if they kill parents Post by: DrBeer on April 24, 2022, 09:48:13 PM .... They're proposing a law where drunk drivers who accidentally run into & kill parents, pay child support to their surviving children until they reach the age of 18 and legally become adults. My first thought is, I don't know if drunk drivers have cash to afford this. Most drunk drivers are young adults likely to have large amounts of student loan debt and entry level income. It is an interesting idea and novel concept. I'm not certain what the normal process is for children whose parents are unfortunately hit by drunk drivers. I guess they would end up in an orphanage? Another interesting movement is cars and trucks having breathalyzers installed on them. So that the engine can't be started unless a person breathes into the breathalyzer and has an alcohol statistic below the legal limit. We have many reactionary penalties and punishments for law breakers. Could a preventionary measure where good behavior is rewarded also have a niche place in society? What if a crypto currency was created which rewarded users for every week they remained sober? In an effort to diminish alcohol and substance abuse. If there are shitcoin developers on this planet who play 5D chess with their crypto token designs, what would it look like? Can I have clarifying questions, or your explanations? 1. I do not quite understand - is this a replacement for a prison term? To begin with, what we are talking about, in my opinion, is nothing more than a premeditated murder! Getting behind the wheel of a car while intoxicated is essentially making the decision to kill a random person or even a group of people with a vehicle. Otherwise, if the perpetrator goes to jail, how will the payment be secured? Or will he be given a job in prison to be guaranteed to earn the required amount? 2. If the perpetrator is released from prison - this is complete nonsense. Most of these criminals are rather poor citizens, how will they support children left without parents? For $100 a month? Some kind of nonsense, as for me ... I will admit that if it is not possible to pay, for example, $ 5,000 per month for one child (well, not $ 100, right ?!), and the lack of liquid assets providing such an amount (through a forced sale), it is more logical to force remove the required organs from the perpetrator of the murder, leaving him with the minimum set to ensure vital functions. And the proceeds, significant funds - to put on the providing account for the injured child / children. Or is it humane to kill people drunk, but to forcibly remove organs from a criminal killer is inhumane if he cannot try to “correct” his guilt as little as possible!? Title: Re: Bill passed requiring drunk drivers to pay child support if they kill parents Post by: crzy on April 24, 2022, 09:54:44 PM Due to the availability of the car in our time, a huge number of inadequate and headless drivers. Such laws can affect the understanding of a person who thinks to drive drunk. As the saying goes, laws are made with blood. Driving drunk is the most irresponsible act. This why the government should have more exams on getting a license, because the arrogant one can easily have it especially in my country. A lot of incidents like this that kills innocent people, having this kind of law is fine but not enough to punish those drunk drivers. Note that not all drunk drivers are rich and capable of supporting others life, they might end up in a jail but the victim will not receive anything from him so better to have another law with regards to this.Title: Re: Bill passed requiring drunk drivers to pay child support if they kill parents Post by: Viscore on April 24, 2022, 10:37:44 PM This should be widely applied so that drinkers are aware of the consequences they will have to bear if an incident occurs. We can't stop companies from shutting down beer, but we can put in place tough laws to prevent overuse and injury to others. In my country, the government has just increased the penalty for drinking while driving. Accordingly, just drinking 2 cans of beer with an alcohol content, the driver will be fined 60 days and have to pay a fine according to regulations, the fine I see has increased 3 times compared to the old fine. I think this bill should be approve because this will bring justice to all the victims caused by irresponsible drivers. We always heard this DON'T DRINK WHEN YOU DRIVE, DON'T DRIVE WHEN YOU'RE DRUNK but this was always disregard by all drivers since there was no heavy sanctions made for them. Maybe this time, they will be more disciplined and be more responsible drivers as they can easily took the lives of others without their awareness.Title: Re: Bill passed requiring drunk drivers to pay child support if they kill parents Post by: kaya11 on April 24, 2022, 11:21:49 PM Quote The bill is named after the daughters of a police officer killed in a DUI hit-and-run The Tennessee legislature passed a bill Wednesday that would require drunk drivers to pay child support if they kill a parent and are convicted of vehicular homicide due to intoxication. The legislation passed through the Tennessee Senate on Wednesday following an amendment to rename the bill after the two daughters of state police officer Nicholas Galinger, who was killed in a hit-and-run by a drunk driver in 2019, according to CBS 46. The legislation, which has yet to be signed into law, requires DUI drivers convicted of either vehicular homicide or aggravated vehicular homicide due to intoxication to pay child support if a parent killed in a crash has any minor children. The payments would continue until each child reaches 18 years old and graduates from high school. Galinger's killer, Janet Hind, drove into him from behind while he was investigating a manhole cover overflowing with water. Hind was intoxicated at the time and was sentenced to 11 years in prison in February. https://www.foxnews.com/us/tennessee-drunk-driver-child-support-parent-death .... They're proposing a law where drunk drivers who accidentally run into & kill parents, pay child support to their surviving children until they reach the age of 18 and legally become adults. My first thought is, I don't know if drunk drivers have cash to afford this. Most drunk drivers are young adults likely to have large amounts of student loan debt and entry level income. It is an interesting idea and novel concept. I'm not certain what the normal process is for children whose parents are unfortunately hit by drunk drivers. I guess they would end up in an orphanage? Another interesting movement is cars and trucks having breathalyzers installed on them. So that the engine can't be started unless a person breathes into the breathalyzer and has an alcohol statistic below the legal limit. We have many reactionary penalties and punishments for law breakers. Could a preventionary measure where good behavior is rewarded also have a niche place in society? What if a crypto currency was created which rewarded users for every week they remained sober? In an effort to diminish alcohol and substance abuse. If there are shitcoin developers on this planet who play 5D chess with their crypto token designs, what would it look like? Title: Re: Bill passed requiring drunk drivers to pay child support if they kill parents Post by: hatshepsut93 on April 25, 2022, 06:18:12 PM Why it's only limited to drunk driving? Why not expand it to every case of killing that leads to a child becoming an orphan?
They idea sounds right morally, but what would be practical consequences? For example, there's an infamous effect of a Chinese law that causes drivers to intentionally kill victims, because it's cheaper than paying medical bills. What if this law would encourage hit and runs or killing witnesses? Title: Re: Bill passed requiring drunk drivers to pay child support if they kill parents Post by: Fortify on April 25, 2022, 07:40:04 PM Quote The bill is named after the daughters of a police officer killed in a DUI hit-and-run The Tennessee legislature passed a bill Wednesday that would require drunk drivers to pay child support if they kill a parent and are convicted of vehicular homicide due to intoxication. The legislation passed through the Tennessee Senate on Wednesday following an amendment to rename the bill after the two daughters of state police officer Nicholas Galinger, who was killed in a hit-and-run by a drunk driver in 2019, according to CBS 46. The legislation, which has yet to be signed into law, requires DUI drivers convicted of either vehicular homicide or aggravated vehicular homicide due to intoxication to pay child support if a parent killed in a crash has any minor children. The payments would continue until each child reaches 18 years old and graduates from high school. Galinger's killer, Janet Hind, drove into him from behind while he was investigating a manhole cover overflowing with water. Hind was intoxicated at the time and was sentenced to 11 years in prison in February. They're proposing a law where drunk drivers who accidentally run into & kill parents, pay child support to their surviving children until they reach the age of 18 and legally become adults. My first thought is, I don't know if drunk drivers have cash to afford this. Most drunk drivers are young adults likely to have large amounts of student loan debt and entry level income. It is an interesting idea and novel concept. I'm not certain what the normal process is for children whose parents are unfortunately hit by drunk drivers. I guess they would end up in an orphanage? Another interesting movement is cars and trucks having breathalyzers installed on them. So that the engine can't be started unless a person breathes into the breathalyzer and has an alcohol statistic below the legal limit. We have many reactionary penalties and punishments for law breakers. Could a preventionary measure where good behavior is rewarded also have a niche place in society? What if a crypto currency was created which rewarded users for every week they remained sober? In an effort to diminish alcohol and substance abuse. If there are shitcoin developers on this planet who play 5D chess with their crypto token designs, what would it look like? It makes sense because there are very few situations, infact it's almost impossible, to be in the situation of drunk driving and have any excuse for the damage you inflict if you hit something. Losing a parent at an early age is a painful enough experience but it has long term ramifications too as the decreased income is likely to have life altering effects on the remaining child(ren). However it's a bit of a catch-22 situation because if the judge is doing their job properly then it's possible that the person will be in jail for a large part of the time they are a child and will not be able to make any sort of meaningful payments. Maybe it should be "banked" and the driver would have to pay the equivalent amount of years after they get out. Title: Re: Bill passed requiring drunk drivers to pay child support if they kill parents Post by: bitzizzix on April 25, 2022, 09:14:29 PM The bill should be applied to all countries and will have a deterrent effect on all drivers so that all drivers do not drive their cars when drunk, as it is dangerous for the driver and others.
There is no excuse for a rich or poor driver if he makes a mistake while drunk, he should be punished and responsible for raising his child until he grows up because he made his son lose his father who should be his responsibility. In the country where I live, a lot of accidents happen because of drunk driving and it's just a criminal law which I don't think is a severe punishment without thinking about the victim's family. Title: Re: Bill passed requiring drunk drivers to pay child support if they kill parents Post by: Freeesta on April 25, 2022, 09:35:10 PM Today, there are more such crimes. It would be very good if the criminal could pay money to the victim in a traffic accident. But if the driver was a person without money, this does not work. I think that in this case the state should pay money to children. It is very sad. Money can't replace parents, but children have to live and no one can take care of them. This law is suitable if the offender has money.
Title: Re: Bill passed requiring drunk drivers to pay child support if they kill parents Post by: arwin100 on April 25, 2022, 10:47:16 PM The bill should be applied to all countries and will have a deterrent effect on all drivers so that all drivers do not drive their cars when drunk, as it is dangerous for the driver and others. There is no excuse for a rich or poor driver if he makes a mistake while drunk, he should be punished and responsible for raising his child until he grows up because he made his son lose his father who should be his responsibility. In the country where I live, a lot of accidents happen because of drunk driving and it's just a criminal law which I don't think is a severe punishment without thinking about the victim's family. Yeah that's best if all country apply this law since it will give security to the victims children if something bad happen to their provider due to this unfortunate incident made by drunkards. But a law on certain country may not apply on other since some politician have different outlook unto this situation and might we see them denied since maybe they will get affected to the law since their part of family do this. Title: Re: Bill passed requiring drunk drivers to pay child support if they kill parents Post by: 24Kt on April 25, 2022, 10:54:35 PM Today, there are more such crimes. It would be very good if the criminal could pay money to the victim in a traffic accident. But if the driver was a person without money, this does not work. I think that in this case the state should pay money to children. It is very sad. Money can't replace parents, but children have to live and no one can take care of them. This law is suitable if the offender has money. It is already happening that in most cases, the driver usually pays the victim. But this bill as posted by the OP is very nice. We will see if these drunken drivers will lessen in numbers. And this is just fair to the kids that will be left behind by untimely accident owed to irresponsible drivers. I hope this kind of bill can be seen in other countries as well. Title: Re: Bill passed requiring drunk drivers to pay child support if they kill parents Post by: Hamphser on April 25, 2022, 11:21:56 PM Today, there are more such crimes. It would be very good if the criminal could pay money to the victim in a traffic accident. But if the driver was a person without money, this does not work. I think that in this case the state should pay money to children. It is very sad. Money can't replace parents, but children have to live and no one can take care of them. This law is suitable if the offender has money. It is already happening that in most cases, the driver usually pays the victim. But this bill as posted by the OP is very nice. We will see if these drunken drivers will lessen in numbers. And this is just fair to the kids that will be left behind by untimely accident owed to irresponsible drivers. I hope this kind of bill can be seen in other countries as well. or people whom they have killed due on being drunk or being irresponsible and with this then we might be seeing much less drunk drivers in the future since they've been thinking on the possible responsibility that they would be burden after. We know that this is hard thats why its right that they should really be careful and be responsible most of the time. Title: Re: Bill passed requiring drunk drivers to pay child support if they kill parents Post by: The Sceptical Chymist on April 26, 2022, 04:26:56 AM My first thought is, I don't know if drunk drivers have cash to afford this. Most drunk drivers are young adults likely to have large amounts of student loan debt and entry level income. Oh, you'd be surprised if you think that. There are plenty of older alcoholics, problem drinkers, and just plain old social drinkers who get behind the wheel after too many drinks who are well past their student loan days. And aside from that, the law doesn't (and shouldn't IMO) take into account whether a defendant is going to be able to afford to pay a fine when that law is written. There's a $219 fine for littering in some New England states, and well...see?I guess they would end up in an orphanage? That's one possibility, but I think most orphaned kids wind up in the custody of a family member--though I don't know what the statistics are as far as that's concerned. I'm also not sure how many orphanages there are anymore.We have many reactionary penalties and punishments for law breakers. Tell me about it. Especially when a crime is committed against people in power, like cops. If it had been a black or Hispanic mother on welfare (or even not on welfare) who was killed, what do you think the chances are that this bill would have even been considered? The people who've got power over the law tend to protect their own kind first and foremost. Also, there are so many laws on the books already, and it's not as if drunk driving isn't a punishable offense. And why not extend the punishment in question here to any situation of accidental killing? What if the offender isn't able to pay? What happens to the kids? This is indeed reactionary in nature. Title: Re: Bill passed requiring drunk drivers to pay child support if they kill parents Post by: AicecreaME on April 26, 2022, 12:30:04 PM This is an interesting and sensible bill because nowadays, cases on reckless driving resulting to homicide is increasing due to drivers that lacks discipline and moderation in drinking. If this bill will become a law, it could impact a lot of lives most especially the lives of the young people who lost their parents in an accident. Justice will be served fairly.
Those children who lost their parents at a young age suffer trauma and are required to grow up and matured fast due to the situation that there's none to make a living for them. Instead of having to do the things they love, they will be forced to enter adulthood and work their ass off just to survive and get by on a daily basis, most especially if they have no relatives to lean on. With this bill, the justice will not just end on suspects being put into jail, but to also provide for the bereaved children for their future. Hopefully, this will be adapted in most places so that there would be more responsible driver because of the grave punishment and responsibilities that will fall upon them once they commit it. After all, it is our duty to drink moderately and drive safely, not just for the sake of ourselves, but also for the sake of those people that we are meeting and driving with along the road. Title: Re: Bill passed requiring drunk drivers to pay child support if they kill parents Post by: dezoel on April 26, 2022, 02:19:20 PM Well, someone who has issues as you have said shouldn’t be drunk driving. It’s not like they’re the only ones who has issues in this world, a lot of people also has issues so you shouldn’t come out there driving like a mad person and cutting another person’s life short all because of your stupidity.
So, the law is a good one and even worse should be done to them. If anyone wants to get drunk, then they should make sure that they are not stupidly driving, rather have someone drive you home or you can order an Uber. Not just hop in your car and start driving like a mad person on the road. This is an issue that really needs to be solved. Title: Re: Bill passed requiring drunk drivers to pay child support if they kill parents Post by: Ucy on April 26, 2022, 02:46:16 PM I think the penalty for killing people should be more severe than this so that people will never think of getting drunk and driving. The rich will likely not take the law seriously if all they will be charged for killing a human is money they can easily afford to pay.
Title: Re: Bill passed requiring drunk drivers to pay child support if they kill parents Post by: so98nn on April 26, 2022, 03:03:06 PM In India such children are either looked after by close relatives or joint families. Orphanage is the last resort really.
Well, coming back to the accidental crime and parents loosing their lives, yes that should be the punishment for sure. In fact they should be taking of such child until they become of mature age really. Parenting is something one should not miss. The children those are raised will get discipline, qualities and life lessons from the parent and how they raise them. Basically they should not be declared as orphan for sure. Title: Re: Bill passed requiring drunk drivers to pay child support if they kill parents Post by: bustabitsboy on April 26, 2022, 07:06:35 PM I think the penalty for killing people should be more severe than this so that people will never think of getting drunk and driving. The rich will likely not take the law seriously if all they will be charged for killing a human is money they can easily afford to pay. How can one measure the grief of children at the loss of their parents? It cannot be measured by money or material things. Take away a driver's license from such a person? It won't be much of a punishment. Unfortunately, we cannot completely exclude cases of driving under the influence of alcohol. It is necessary to carry out preventive work among people. For a person to accept that he is committing a crime. Title: Re: Bill passed requiring drunk drivers to pay child support if they kill parents Post by: DrBeer on April 26, 2022, 07:16:03 PM In India such children are either looked after by close relatives or joint families. Orphanage is the last resort really. Well, coming back to the accidental crime and parents loosing their lives, yes that should be the punishment for sure. In fact they should be taking of such child until they become of mature age really. Parenting is something one should not miss. The children those are raised will get discipline, qualities and life lessons from the parent and how they raise them. Basically they should not be declared as orphan for sure. Comparison with India is not very correct. There are very strong tribal or family ties. And even in very poor families - to take the child of a deceased close relative into their family, this is an absolutely normal situation. More precisely, not performing such a step - this is an oddity in behavior. And the European nation is more "humane" - orphanages, foster families ... Title: Re: Bill passed requiring drunk drivers to pay child support if they kill parents Post by: palle11 on April 26, 2022, 08:51:01 PM Unfortunately, we cannot completely exclude cases of driving under the influence of alcohol. It is necessary to carry out preventive work among people. For a person to accept that he is committing a crime. Despite to that I think effort towards it can be made so that very large number of people or drivers will go out of careless driving habit and the few remaining will go along way in reducing the incident or chances of occurring very often. I think such bill is a nice introduction to protect young children from outright suffering when their parents die from being hit from a careless drive drunk under the wheel. Title: Re: Bill passed requiring drunk drivers to pay child support if they kill parents Post by: Finestream on April 26, 2022, 09:46:08 PM I think that driving trucks is the most useful area for automated driving if pre-determined tracks for these trailers are set, so that the driver’s role becomes complementary, and this role may be abolished in the future. If those drivers are really thinking on the consequences of their actions if they become drunk and still drive, then they should be careful not to cause other's lives misery. Otherwise, they will support all the needs of the children of the victim. Now, if they lack the means to support them, i guess the company is not responsible for their employee's faults. If they can work on another job that pays higher compensation, then it should be their priority.The bill is interesting, but it remains difficult for this person to pay the expenses, especially since most truck drivers do not have the extra money to bear the expenses of a child or several children. I had hoped that these expenses would be directed to the companies that employ these drivers and thus would improve the selection criteria instead of bearing the consequences of the expenses of these minor children. Title: Re: Bill passed requiring drunk drivers to pay child support if they kill parents Post by: wxa7115 on April 29, 2022, 04:21:42 PM I think the penalty for killing people should be more severe than this so that people will never think of getting drunk and driving. The rich will likely not take the law seriously if all they will be charged for killing a human is money they can easily afford to pay. I am not really an expert on the law or anything like that but in many places child support is calculated not as a fixed income but as a percentage of your income, meaning that even someone that was incredibly rich will need to pay a lot of money for drunk driving and killing someone.Also I think such payment does not really excludes the drunk driver from other legal consequences of their actions, so this seems like a good law to force those drunk divers to take responsibility for their massive mistake. Title: Re: Bill passed requiring drunk drivers to pay child support if they kill parents Post by: doomloop on April 29, 2022, 06:34:24 PM The cases related on drunk driving rise up and there are so many casualties per year recorded as per statistical records show so this law created give justice to the child who's parent are victimized on this unfortunate incident. And maybe thru this law the cases will low since there's a law that will totally add more weight to their case if they got involve on the said case. I believe that that’s because there isn’t much effort being put into stopping people from drunk driving. Such issues as that should be looked into and solved. There should be rules being put in place as a way to reduce such events from occurring.And I believe that when the government starts to do what they really meant to do, such as this kind of law that they have implemented, it is really going to help in reducing the rate of loss. but more should be done, and I believe we as the people should also do our best in making sure that such things are avoided. Title: Re: Bill passed requiring drunk drivers to pay child support if they kill parents Post by: macson on May 01, 2022, 02:02:42 PM They're proposing a law where drunk drivers who accidentally run into & kill parents, pay child support to their surviving children until they reach the age of 18 and legally become adults. My first thought is, I don't know if drunk drivers have cash to afford this. Most drunk drivers are young adults likely to have large amounts of student loan debt and entry level income. The death rate due to accidents is quite high in my country and the perpetrators are mostly drunk and sleepy drivers, i support the rules that require the crasher to be fully responsible for the victim's children and if necessary, the company where the crasher works (if the crasher is a truck driver or something else) is also responsible for the child victims of the accident.Title: Re: Bill passed requiring drunk drivers to pay child support if they kill parents Post by: riso2015 on May 01, 2022, 02:18:38 PM the government in my country is very concerned about this problem, people who drive drunk vehicles are immediately followed up, and they are immediately taken to the nearest police station, but there are still many countries that have not taken action against drunk drivers even when they hit other people they are immediately released without being punished. follow up, the reason is because the authorities cannot arrest them because what was done was outside their consciousness.
Title: Re: Bill passed requiring drunk drivers to pay child support if they kill parents Post by: Similificator on May 01, 2022, 02:33:35 PM It is really sad to see people dyung because of the recklessness and carelessness of other people specially people who are breadwinners. Regardless of the reasons why a person got drunk in the first place, he or she should never drive. And the people who accompanies these drunk drivers are equally responsible for not advising nor preventing these drunk drivers from driving while drunk. Good thing this law has been thought off. I wish this reduces the cases of drunk drivung related accidents.
Title: Re: Bill passed requiring drunk drivers to pay child support if they kill parents Post by: gantez on May 01, 2022, 02:55:55 PM This is good to take the drivers killing people on the road to face consequences when they have refused to obey rules. Drinking gets someone to another level and if you are driving no need to indulging into that. If the drivers killing people because they are doing wrong act of driving, they should take charge of the action they did and make care for the orphan that they made. This is a good policy and it can bring a little orderliness in the system and the road will be free of drunk drivers.
Title: Re: Bill passed requiring drunk drivers to pay child support if they kill parents Post by: Zlantann on May 01, 2022, 03:18:26 PM Like you rightly pointed out, most drunk drivers don't have enough finance to cater for the welfare of children that lost thier parents due to the actions of these drivers. But a special insurance coverage for such incident can be introduced. Maybe such cost or responsibility can be transferred to these insurance companies.
I am thrilled by this innovative discovery called breathalyzer, it would prevent these careless accident, in fact all carmakers should be mandated to install them in every car produced. Title: Re: Bill passed requiring drunk drivers to pay child support if they kill parents Post by: Cling18 on May 01, 2022, 05:24:35 PM Drunk driving could easily kill lives that's why it's prohibited and as for me, children that will lose their parents because of lawbreakers still deserve a good future. It will cost drivers a lot of responsibilities but it's the consequence of their wrong actions that they have to pay. If they find this bill hard then they should learn how to abide by the law by driving responsively.
Title: Re: Bill passed requiring drunk drivers to pay child support if they kill parents Post by: Freeesta on May 01, 2022, 06:59:15 PM If a person uses alcohol or other drugs, then he should not drive a car or other equipment. This is a rule and must be followed. If a person gets behind the wheel of a car while intoxicated, he knows that he is breaking the law. And there can be no exceptions. If a person got behind the wheel in a state of intoxication, then he must compensate for the damage and this is normal. Even if he has to give all his property for this.
Title: Re: Bill passed requiring drunk drivers to pay child support if they kill parents Post by: eaLiTy on May 01, 2022, 07:08:00 PM Like you rightly pointed out, most drunk drivers don't have enough finance to cater for the welfare of children that lost thier parents due to the actions of these drivers. But a special insurance coverage for such incident can be introduced. Maybe such cost or responsibility can be transferred to these insurance companies. So you want to have a mandatory insurance coverage for such incident and then force everyone who does not consume alcohol should take the insurance which is unfair. If you are drunk and if that cost a life then you should be responsible for the actions and i am an advocate of that but to have a special insurance, do you think any insurance company will take any high risk insurance like that. I am thrilled by this innovative discovery called breathalyzer, it would prevent these careless accident, in fact all carmakers should be mandated to install them in every car produced. I do not want to see a breath analyzer being installed in every car but strict actions should be taken against anyone driving after consuming alcohol. Title: Re: Bill passed requiring drunk drivers to pay child support if they kill parents Post by: CryptocurencyKing on May 01, 2022, 07:14:55 PM Wow! It's good to know that some government are thinking and really trying to handle alarming situations such as this. You know, it's absurd to think of it that a child be made an orphan by someone's recklessness and then close to nothing would be done about it except a prosecution in the court of law for which the individual might be jailed and if any, a minimal compensation. It doesn't add up to me and as such, I think this bill is very much in order.
Not minding the fact that, most drunk drivers are young adults, it would create the consciousness in the driver that, his got some upbringing to do should he be involved in any reckless driving and societal ills like drinking irresponsibly. Title: Re: Bill passed requiring drunk drivers to pay child support if they kill parents Post by: laurenB7742 on May 05, 2022, 06:10:33 PM ~ If this bill is fully implemented then it will be a bill. This kind of hit-and-run accident is always happening by drunk drivers. But their proper judgment is not done. In most cases, the victim's family does not get Justice, but this justice they deserve. The poorest people living on the sidewalks suffer the most. In the middle of the night, drunk drivers drive over them. There is no one to look after their children after this kind of miserable death. But the new bill says drivers have to pay child support. Now it remains to be seen how effective this bill is. Title: Re: Bill passed requiring drunk drivers to pay child support if they kill parents Post by: Kasabus on May 05, 2022, 09:30:23 PM Well, someone who has issues as you have said shouldn’t be drunk driving. It’s not like they’re the only ones who has issues in this world, a lot of people also has issues so you shouldn’t come out there driving like a mad person and cutting another person’s life short all because of your stupidity. Seeing a lot of drunk drivers still driving in the road has been very usual not only in one's country, but i guess for most of the countries now as its been so hard to resolved that. However, if the government tighten their laws and policies about that, i think that will reduce the cases. And even let them pay on the consequences of their actions will make them more cautious not to drive when drunk. Hopefully this law will be adopted too in my country as a lot of accidents are happening due to the stupidity of drunk drivers.So, the law is a good one and even worse should be done to them. If anyone wants to get drunk, then they should make sure that they are not stupidly driving, rather have someone drive you home or you can order an Uber. Not just hop in your car and start driving like a mad person on the road. This is an issue that really needs to be solved. Title: Re: Bill passed requiring drunk drivers to pay child support if they kill parents Post by: Kakmakr on May 06, 2022, 06:07:35 AM This might sound like an excellent Bill .... but it has some very bad consequences.
1. The driver might be the father or mother of his or her own children and they become the next victims of the crime. Why do they have to suffer for the actions of their father or mother? 2. The victims family are now burdened with prolonged suffering, because they will have to go in and out of court to deal with the non-payment of the child support, if the drunk driver stop paying the child support. I say, give them a huge fine and give some of that money to the victims family ...or give some jail time... if no fine can be paid. Also give social and psychological support to the driver to prevent drunk driving in the future. (Programs on responsible Alcohol use and/or misuse and also finding the reason why this person is drinking so much) |