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Transgender women joining sporting events that were originally created for biological women has sparked some debates for some time now. I wouldn't delve into the science of it since I'm not that good about these matters anyway hehe. People argue about their physical advantage over biological women and called for changes like having a different category.

Their call has been answered first by FINA when majority voted for a ban and the creation of an open category for trans women.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-06-20/fina-votes-to-restrict-transgender-swimmers-in-competition/101166220

The rule by FINA was followed by the International Rugby League. More study will be done for a more inclusive policy.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-06-21/international-rugby-league-bans-transgender-women-fina-policy/101169870

I think it will just be a matter of time before other sports organization will follow after them. Will there be a good market for this? I don't know but bookies will probably open a different line for the events exclusive for them. Would you bet if they do?   

I don't think so.

It is a question of numbers. There are far fewer transgender athletes in the classic male and female categories. So I wouldn't mind betting on transgender sports, but I doubt there are enough of them in some sports to make them competitive.

Take football, for example. There aren't enough trans people to set up a football league in any country, let alone a top level one, let alone one that can compete in terms of interest with the UEFA Champions League. Or the major national leagues.

In individual sports there may be a little more scope for interest, though.

Completely depends on how much interest it generates and how broadcast-able it is. It will surely get a buzz for the first week of any transgender event and then slowly get to the popularity it deserves.

To be honest, the percentage of transgender male/female in the world is less that 0.4% of the world population. In that 0.4% you are trying to hire the most athletic person interested in having a career in sports. The odds that a competitive and worth watching league is created is kinda low. That's just my opinion though, lets see how it pans out.

I don't really understand why transgender women are trying to join sports competitions that are made for women. I mean, they have the physical body of a man that has been altered to be a woman however the difference in physical strength is a lot. 

Anyways, yes, I would definitely bet on these kinds of events as it might be more fun to see them in action rather than on plain gender events. However, I don't think that there will be a huge market for these events as the only main difference is their gender but still, there's a chance that at least one sports event will have a good market for transgender people.

No I wouldn’t. I am not interested in what they do, why would I bet on their games? For the same reason, I don’t bet on women games too. I don’t watch women football or anything similar. Sometimes I watch them playing beach volleyball but that’s only for fun. You get the point. When you bet on a game which you don’t know anything about the players, it is no different than flipping a coin.

If their built resembles muscular body, its definitely has the great advantage to any sport they join. Betting on them will likely get you to win.

But the protest against them joining sports event meant for women is not going to stop. Hard to pick a side for this topic since discrimination will also be raised just like the transgender who joined the beauty pageant. But I think there should just be an event for them alone. - Would this be a discrimination also?

I don't get the relevants of the transgender in betting games,  now about the question of yours "will there be a good market for this?"
perhaps, this would depend on the budget they have for this events. Let see what's their gonna do to take an action for this matter.
And frankly, I don't have any interest on it, besides there are a lot of games in crypto gambling not only this we can still choose anyway.

So you think that the bookies would allow bets about sports events, where transgender women are competing against biological women?
Is that what you are trying to say? I don't think that this will happen, because:
1. Most sports federations won't allow transgender women to compete against biological women.
2. Transgender women playing against actual women doesn't seem fair to me and this will deviate the odds.
Sports bookies would definitely stay away from sports, where the competition isn't fair and it's possible for the result to be predicted.
I think that there will be separate sports events and contests for transgender people only. This might seem like discrimination, but I don't see any other way around this problem.

As soon as I see someone like that involved in sport, I turn off the TV and go to play games on my computer because things like that don't really praiseworthy. Imagine you are a man and wanted to become a woman and not only that, but you also want to get what the woman should have like their own sports and others. Now they wanted their own association in sports? I don't like the idea and this won't get any revenue because it's just pure nonsense.

What first comes my mind is that 'are transgender natural'? Transgender was changed from a male or female to an opposite sex by doctors in hospital in support to the person's willingness to transform into an opposite sex, this should even nullifies them to compete in sport competitions, those that supposed to be recognized should be males and females that are physically fit and also people that are physically challenged.

You are not wrong that transgender people are not many but even if they are many, they should be best be excluded from participation or maybe the world wants to be in support of it. But there are still sport that is meant for not many people that they can participate like in running, jumping, table, lawn tennis and many others.

I think what he meant is the title of the thread.

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If it's transgender-only sports, then I think it would be fine because personally, it is another form of entertainment without having to consider which participant is in handicap. Regardless of their philosophical bullshits, or any other science-based research, I am certain that there will still be issues and will just result in neverending debate.

Is this a solution? Of course not! Even if you say that they are all trans, governing bodies should still impose rules in terms of their body measurements or even perhaps genetics?

I am not against any gender however there should not be sports for something other than male and female.

Why so? Because if you allow transgender players to a female competition, they will have an edge over it.
And if you allow transgenders to play in a male-only competition, they will be weaker.

Competition only for transgender will not garnish any views or ticket sales, which is the only reason no one is willing to organize them.
I hope this makes sense however I would love if there can be any proposal with changes that helps them to be part of the sports.

maybe the opinion of the board or an expert in this field will say that something in the right category will add interest and feel exclusive. Do you think this is not intimidating for them (transgender)?
I only focus on what is offered in any game or gambling.
The way an event is in my opinion is the main thing. Even though it's for entertainment purposes, both men and women, I will enjoy it regardless of their quality in the arena.
I think fans or other spectators will also feel the same about a skill, gain and everything that is fun in it.
I think it will be safe and fine. But if it's a new breakthrough, I'm looking forward to that game.

I would not know how to bet in the first place even if we get a sport for these persons I doubt we will get good athletes from that low amount that they are in the world population as said before 0.4% of the total world population.

I also doubt that many countries would allow them to be broadcasting this type of sport/events in TV for example,a lot of European countries although they say they are all liberal and they respect any right for any person in the world there is a vast majority of the countries in Eu that stay loyal to the Church.Maximum we would see these type of sport events only broadcasting via Internet and to a low audience which I think very few persons would bet for these type of event.

They are allowing this actually which female trans can join the men only competition.


Fairness is the cornerstone of sport as being said in the article. But what chance a woman does to male competitors when she joins?
But It would really be shameful to see a woman wins a swimming competition in an international level.

High chance that it will be abused if they allow a man turned woman in international sports event like Olympics to win more gold.

To be honest it is ridiculous who let men who identify now as a woman compete against biological woman. I am glad the world is waking up now and fixing this. If there was a nationwide if trans sport people should be included in female sport or not, I am sure there wouldn't be a 50% majority. Another thing is also, why are there no woman who want to be men and compete in men sports? Because they would have no chance, so why allow it the other way round?
Now if there will be trans leagues coming up and showing their sport events, I don't expect many viewers for it. Just by looking at the difference between male and female sports we see that most people are just not interested in female sports. Why would they now start watching trans sports. Also are there even enough trans athletes to compete against each other? If there are no real tournaments or competition that there will also be no betting market for it. Personally I am not going to bet on it.

Let me put it to you in this way...

I will much rather bet on something where the odds are more fair, than betting on something where one of the athletes have some kind of advantage over another. The sporting organizations that makes the rules has banned all steroids that will boost an athletes testosterone levels, but some people seem to think that it is "fair" for transgender people to compete with natural higher testosterone levels.  ::)

I say.... make it a fair contest and I will support whatever Sport they play in. (No matter what sexual orientation they have)  ;)

It's how much impact they will make to be a known sport in their category for me to bet on it.
Let's take WNBA as an example. Those are ladies + basketball which is a known sport but yet they don't get too much support from the gambling industry.
A gambler who bets on WNBA is a rare one because most would prefer the known men's category which is NBA.
First, they must gain a big audience, then betting will come as more people are hooked on the game, gender won't matter, I think.

The creation of separate sports competitions for transgender people may entail reform of the entire sports industry. 

Modern sports allow the use of swimsuits made of innovative synthetic materials that allow you to swim faster than if the athlete was completely naked. 

However, doping is prohibited.... 

You can improve sports equipment, but you cannot improve athletes' bodies. 

In the future, it is possible that in sports it will be allowed to improve the body of athletes by various methods - with the help of biochips, with the help of genetic engineering, with the help of modern pharmacology, etc.

At the same time, the ban on the cardinal transformation of the bodies of athletes will be lifted.

If they are making the transgender only event,sure there will be a market for them,but will it be popular? Looking at the respond of the people,i think it will take quite a long time for it to be recognized.Will i bet for this kind of event? If there are many people who participate,why not?

Or they will be encouraged to import or put one in the roster for these transgenders in the league, just a wild wild hunch. I don't know if it will be marketed but I'd say it will be discouraged even more just to balance the play. I guess that will differ if the team is that good even if there's no trans in them, it's not a one individual league after all.

This'll be hard to bet on IMO. There are several transgenders who only went for a change after their bodies have fully developed, and there are others who have stopped the hormones of their natural sexes early on, leading to an undeveloped body for their natural sex. There is already a disparity and a slight advantage to those who changed their sex after they have achieved full development of their body, and while talent and performance still is the main thing that gets the athlete to the top, you can't deny that body/physical features still help a ton.

I'm not against transgender or something in related which answering the question if I do make some bets? Of course if I could see and know their past games or statistics because that what matter the most where games you do know and the players involved and their history and other related facts.Doesnt matter on what's the gender as long it do suits your interest and preferred sports and knowledge then thats what really counts.

Not all transgenders have an advantage over biological women, regardless to eliminate ambiguity, a separate category should be created for athletes in that category to avoid a situation where a man who who is not doing well in the male category deciding to seek better opportunities as a trans in the female category. A new category will create new audience, and new channels for betting sites and gambling casinos to make profit. I may not immediately bet on their games, but certainly there are persons who will, and maybe with time, as they gain acceptance, others like myself may try betting on their games.

This is a hot issue today due to some sports organizations banning transgender women from competing in different women's sports. I think it started to became a very very serious issue when transwoman swimmer Lia Thomas was winning tournaments including beating a 2020 Olympic silver medalist. I thought that it was only a matter of time before sports organizations starts making serious actions. And so it did happened and I expect more and more organizations to follow. We simply cannot argue with science.

I agree with these sports organizations to ban transwomen from competing in women's sports. I am a long time huge fight fan and I noticed the discrepancy years ago when a trans woman named Fallon Fox competed in mixed martial arts. She's not really special and was nearing 40s when she started in MMA. But I felt like she won her fights because she's got a man's body. She was stronger and punches harder despite her age. Although she lost once but it was against a future UFC fighter (best mma fighters in the world/special fighters). In Fallon's last fight, she broke her opponent's orbital bone, made its face a mess and was concussed.           

I am not against transgenders. I think there is still a good market in sports for them. Will I bet on transgender games? It actually depends on what sports and the excitement level it brings. I am not against it. 

There could be a good market for transgenders if given their own event not inconveniencing the women sports. Bookies are out for their money if transgender sports gets fans and interest then bookies will be left with no choice but do delve into creating bets for them. For me i bet on what seem feasible and predictable if that become their case then a big yes

Why not? I see some users here that might against the transgenders but for me it really depends, I mean why not especially if the game is really entertaining and the odds was really that good but it looks like a new news about a transgender that's been banned to the women's competition it is understandable because scientifically speaking there's really a difference between women and men bodies and he would greatly have advantage on that.

I don't know how transgender competitions can be different from regular competitions, because usually they are just women's competitions. And there have already been complaints about transgender people winning women's swimming or powerlifting competitions. I don't think there's much interest in such competitions, so they're unlikely to be popular with gamblers. Especially the odds on transgender people are likely to be very low.

After the internet became easier to access, more and more popping up on various social media of the transgender community, and I was quite surprised
that there were more people supporting transgender than I thought. So I believe that in the future there will be more and more fans of transgender
athletes. Therefore it would be better if transgender has its own sports competition and not combined with women. If there is already a sports competition
for transgender and it has a lot of fans, the bookies will definitely open bets for that competition. Since for me it would be very interesting to try
my luck betting on transgender competitions, why not just give it a try.

Other sports organization should follow them sooner.  It is really unfair for a biological female to compete with transgenders because of the obvious reasons and proven research that transgenders have a physical advantage over natural women.


There will be some organizations that will try to market sports organized for transgenders but I do not think that they will succeed anyway.  With the number of transgenders involved in sports, I do not think that organized sports for them will be that interesting.


This is one of the cases where some of the humanity who is in authority took a dumb step just for entertainment.          

hi,
The issue here with your approach is that you mix things up, first the inclusion issue, then the betting issue...etc.

The point is that we are on a betting board and I think the focus is for example knowing that Caitlyn Jenner is going to play a golf tournament and her odds are "good," "bad" or somewere this is such a thing , point.

So, thoughts over if it is right or wrong that this is allowed, if you would bet or not, because of the "taboo" theme, religious, biological, etc., This is are opinions that should go to another place (board) imho.

I do not think that such a market will exist - there are too few participants for someone to give the opportunity to bet on such events. Plus, we all understand that as soon as transgender people get their own separate category (and can not get an advantage over women), they will lose a lot of interest in competitive sports. I don’t want to offend anyone, but everyone understands why there are so many transgender people in women’s sports now - they just get victories for free.

Biologically they would ofcourse have a different physique which also means that these events won't be fair. Transgender women need to have a different event perse, what we can include might be biologically women which would eventually make the whole situation calmer for them but then the authorities do need to include them as well. I do understand the whole idea behind them being discriminated but at the same time this might be a discrimination for the women in that particular event. Even though men and women have seperate physique, muscles etc.. they also hold every right to be what they want to be  , if they do have trans. Specific events I do think the whole world will enjoy it equally.

Although it's not moral, due to the inequity, it would be profitable to bet on transgender athtletes when competing against women. But to bet in transgender category matches is tricky like any other category, because they are playing from equal to equal. I don't know how is the demand of the public for transgender matches right now, but I have the impression it's not so popular at a point sportsbook would introduce those matches in quantity.

In fact, I only got aware about transgender athletes because they punched women so hard, that they became popular over the whole internet quite fast through the public's indignation.

If the matches would only be between both transgenders, then that will be fine but if it's transgenders vs women, I guess that will be too unfair. Transgenders have stronger stamina than biological women. It won't be fair so I won't bet on it. If it will affect the fairness of the game, then they shouldn't allow it. If they want to run sports for transgenders, they have to make sure that it won't take advantage of women's feminity.

The truth is regardless of the change of a transgender, such individual still has the strength of his/her original sex. There should be special sports league or competition for transgenders to promote fair play. Although they might have low audience or sponsorship, but they might still attract fans. I don't think their population would increase to attract more attention to their league. But betting is all for entertainment and profit making. If they offer quality services and bonuses, people would definitely bet on them an derive fun and make money.     

The main purpose of the sports is to promote fitness, so I think that having transgenders vs biological women would be unfair. If it's not fair then they should find a way to fix it. In most sports, there are rules, and those rules are for a reason. If we love the sport then the rules shouldn't matter because the game is supposed to be fair!!

For this game, I think they should allow transgender to play together but not against biological women. It can have an unfair outcome if it's just the males against the females or both males and females.


Yes if the bookies offer good odds

South Park has already made an episode about this argument in 2019 (Season 23 E 7 "The Strong Woman Competition"), and it has already happened that famous Olympics have been questioned about their "nature" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caster_Semenya

Probably we need to wait a bit before there are many tournaments and people joining this kind of tournaments, I have some doubts these can become "popular event"...
If this is a league made "only" of transgender there is not any advantage for punters :(

I never looked at player or specific games except football when I used to gamble. In a certain day when I am in good mood, was feeling lucky, I used to log into my betting account and try betting in different sports. I used to wait for special events like in EPL to bet on Liverpool or in big matches. But most of the time my regular betting pattern was in random events. I used to chase odds. Lost a lot too.

Considering my betting pattern I would not mind even if it was an event for aliens too 😉

Anyway into the topic, not all transgender have physics like men. So having them with women does not mean that they will have advantage. Even with men we can argue the same. One who has men physic should competition in men events and the one who has women physic should go with women. But still it does not solve the problem entirely. The possibility for to be in the middle can not be ignored too. It's complicated after all.

Personally, I wouldn't support it. I say this with the understanding of the damage trans athletes do to classical women's sports. It must be very demoralizing for these young women to lose their scholarships.

I think it's better that they're in a separate grouping, because there is the potential for all sorts of complications and it would be unfair to women to be competing against somebody who was born as a man. Everyone should be free to choose what they want to be, however it should not impact on the fairness of the sport for other groups. It might be rather difficult to get a team going for some countries as it is something relatively few people are interested in doing and of those people there is a whole world of sports available. It might work better for individual games like tennis or golf, but women's sport has only really started to break through heavily (at the top end / televised level) in the last decade or so, it could be a uphill struggle to get recognized and rewarded.

I doubt that such a possibility ever existed, since it is unlikely that bookmakers are so stupid as not to understand that a man who calls himself a woman is much stronger than real women.
In fact, you can bet on anything (even transgender competitions among themselves), the only question is whether it is profitable or not. I do not see any arguments in favor of the fact that it will be more profitable than betting on regular competitions.

This will be profitable in my opinion, if in case, you are very familiar with those athletes.
If you know their strengths and their performance level, I do think that's your advantage if you do bet on them.
I don't see anything wrong betting on their events. I treat it as just another regular sporting events.
It is up to you how you will see them as athletes. But should not look them differently, in my opinion.

This remind of the message Qatar president spread around to warn LGBT and other sexually abuse kind of people who are coming to watch FIFA in coming months to adhere to rules and regulations of the country. I don't think some countries will buy this idea and I even doubt if the investors will want to pour some millions of dollars in sponsoring this kind of games.
It's cool for those who don't see anything bad in it but personally, I wouldn't and never put my money in these kind of events, it doesn't align with my believe and same will go for plenty of people.

The biological female sporting (gambling) market isn't that huge yet, how then will this be any different. I don't think there's a market currently but who knows maybe in the future things might change. No body believe the gay community will be this huge as it is today that people can boldly come out to announce themselves and instead of be crucified they are been celebrated.

Maybe there would be a time been a transgender will become a norm and things like betting on them in sport events will be popular. And If this time do come, I don't mind betting, the goal is to win and double my capital and I'll do everything possible to achieve that instead of discriminating my fellow humans.

I'm not here to criticize anyone's sexual options (although I don't like that kind of thing about men becoming women and women becoming men), but in sport there have always been rules and these rules must be followed and not changed because they are already good, so in my opinion it would be that if we're talking about women's basketball, then a guy who thinks he's a woman can play in a women's team, but I don't agree with creating teams of transgender people.


well if i do all the analysis of the game and realize i can make a profit then i will bet. when I place bets I'm not worried about things related to race, sex, or religion or region, I'm worried about making a profit

They have an outright advantage over their opponent psychologically, just the thought of the other party that they are fighting what was once a real man beneath that look will give the transgender opponent something to worry about


They should have one of their own I mention the physiological advantage is there it will create chaos and countries and companies will just prefer transgender to compete than a real woman I am in no way disregarding or disrespecting the transgender but we must think logically and put the right perspective in our traditional participants of the sports.

The rule by FINA was followed by the International Rugby League. More studies will be done for a more inclusive policy.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-06-21/international-rugby-league-bans-transgender-women-fina-policy/101169870

This will be something new for all of us and we have to see it first happening if they can promote these events the right way then it will become popular we are living in a new era where everything is now possible and almost accepted.  

Why not? if sports bookies are going to open a line about this matches, so most likely there will be bettors around here. Of course others will see as they will have an advantage, so they should have their own league by themselves. And so it's too early to conclude this is going to be a hit or miss. But as we all know the world is evolving so fast that even sports would have to cope with this kind of narratives.

The pros and cons of transgenders aside from the world of sports are also ongoing, so don't be surprised if this also happens in sports.
It is a dilemma and debatable when a transgender woman joins the team. The presumption is that they are male after all and have male power. This may be the first reason. If it's related to fairness or not, it's better if you are of the same gender as the original. And doesn't transgender participation in sports also depends on the club or country itself according to the provisions of world-class organizations, right?
For me, probably team with transgender will have a distinct advantage for the team.

From a gambler's perspective, if there's a betting market available, there will always be a bettor that will consider placing a bet on that. It also depends on what type of sports we are referring to here. Bettors will consider placing their respective bets, not because of any transgender related-issues but if that league is known and popular, the usual betting will just go on.

If that's a separate event where all participants are transgender, building a betting market on it might be slow from that start but eventually, it will surely grow in progress as long as those types of events are regularly held and being supported and backed by popular institutions.

It's a good initiative for me actually that there's an event specifically for transgenders.

It looks like majority of the responses won't mind betting and most also agree that it will take time before there will be a huge market for transgender women only events. I didn't know their population is that small yet. I thought they had more numbers than the 0.4% to be honest. I don't think bookies would be opening lines for them anytime soon.

I get it that we are born with different bodies but this makes it even more complicated then. The sports organizations will have to place special rules to address this.

I wouldn't bet on those events as I feel like the events wouldn't stand out as much compared to the well-known sports event we already have and as a sports bettor, it's tough to go for lesser-known events since there would be less information regarding the players and the teams. If I see someone who's knowledgeable enough about the league then it's probably okay to bet on it once in a while but on a regular basis, it's much better to go for popular events where the competition is much tougher.

transgenders have a different physique from the original so that, this is a very concerning thing at this time. there was once a real female athlete who complained about the rules of the sport that allowed transgenders to compete with them because that transgender always win. I don't want to bet on sports where there are transgender.

I believe that the creation of a specific category is something very assertive.
I am also not an expert on the subject, but if we are to see the amount of trans women (ex-men) winning awards is much greater than the amount of trans men (ex-women), why is it!?

Anyway... I believe that as these categories become popular, betting sites should list them as well.
I'd bet, I don't see a problem with that.

I'm not really interested at the idea of opening events exclusively for them. If you mean like we'll have men boxing, women boxing, gay boxing, lesbian boxing, and so on. So we would also have NBA, WNBA, GNBA, LNBA? This is ridiculous! I'm not saying I won't be betting on them once they're already established, though. But I'm not excited of that possibility.

Anyway, it is really unfair, if not outright absurd, if male athletes identifying themselves as female would be accepted in the female category. That's really stupid!

First I disagree about transgender itself, but if indeed such a circle has formed and they have their sport too. So as much as possible their circle is only special for them, meaning that if there are transgender people, they cannot be combined with those who are still normal and natural. Because for a bet requires judgment and one of them is from their physical strength, if transgender and normal/natural people are combined then of course it will be difficult to judge and become unbalanced because they are basically different.

The transgender needs to be given equal rights. I don't say people are against them, but they weren't able to be normal as a men/women. See, in sports their participation is denied. Likewise we can find transgenders being denied opportunities on different sectors because of their gender. So, forming a separate sporting events for them is really a needed one. If we people don't participate atleast transgender people will start betting on those events.

In time , people may accept this but depend on what kind of transgender will be joining , there are types of Transgender that has been a female living since they were young , My best friends Son has been showing his femininity since age of 3 and till now? He lives like a total Woman so maybe His muscle development is far different from normal men?
but there are also some of them that only find their gender at late ages? or at least at after teenager in which they had lived a masculine world for long years and yes they are not really allowed to play with woman because he will surely have that advantage .

Transgender people may be given the opportunity to form sporting events. Still, I think it will depend on where the transgender is located because some countries, especially countries that strongly adhere to their religion, will strongly object. This is a problem in several countries that reject the existence of transgender people because they are considered to have violated their nature as human beings. Perhaps there needs to be more discussion between religious leaders, government, transgender people, and the general public. It's not easy to provide a solution.

I can't say for sure how we should judge that a group of transgender people competes in sports.  In my opinion, they have the right to participate in sports in any field or make professions as athletes, do they guarantee that they are great?  certainly not at all.  do they guarantee victory?  not really, I think it depends on the talent they have.  will bookies open the way for transgender people?  I'm sure not.  There are many things to consider as well as debate.  so I think it's perfectly legal for them to be involved in any sport as long as it doesn't violate the rules.

I don't mind about woman or transgender or about man. It is ridicolous to discriminate a category only for its sex. So, If in a team plays a transgender, I don't mind and always put my bet if I want to do that. This thing

to put a label on every sort of thing is becoming ridicolous, considering that we're in 2022. Instead, to only thing that I'm not in agree is to put my bet on match fixed, it isn't ethical and reasonable for me to do this.

 

What would be my take for not betting on a transgender sports event that is futured on a bookie?

The truth is, I don't support the transgender shit and a man with female induced hormones and systems doesn't really make him a female, that's a man right there and the same goes for female to male swap. It's going to introduce some bias into the events or sports, given that the male is sure tobhave some advantage and that puts the gambler at an advantage. If you recall from the Olympic mixed gender sports event, the male did good when mixed with the female and the same would play out in a transgender sport should they dare to mix them.
The only reason I wing bet is to discourage the transgender practice else, it's it's cool way to make some wins.

If the world is going down the road of gender reassignment and self-identification, I think transgender people should compete in a separate category of athletes because transgender women will be stronger and tougher than normal women anyway, so I think it's a kind of cheating in sports. I welcome fair competition and I wouldn't want my bet to lose because any of the athletes take advantage of the transgender advantage. 

What is the point in having separate games for just 0.1% of the population? In Olympics we have separate events for males and females because both these groups are almost equal in population. So it doesn't make any sense to have separate competition for trans athletes. In that case why we are having a separate Games for handicapped athletes (Paralympics)? Why can't we include that also in the Olympic Games. I would rather limit the Olympic Games to male and female competitions. Trans athletes can compete in men's section.

I wonder what they mean when they said "open category". does this mean anyone can join in that category? meaning man, woman, trans, etc...?

I don't mind, I don't really see anything wrong if betting on a sport that has a category exclusively for transgender. but I wonder if there are enough transgender athletes to build a market for it in the sports betting industry.

it's not fair and it's not good for the general welfare of the sports, we don't want to come where the majority of athletes are transgender because sports organizations will have an edge in fielding transgender, even if science thinks they have a valid findings that transgender has no edge over a true woman still the psychological edge is always there.

I agree that they should have their own events they have a place in the sporting events but they should compete with their kinds for the sake of fairness and integrity of the sports community.

It wouldn't be unfair to real women because they have to compete with transgender people. But if it is transgender who competes with other transgender people, it can be fair because they are the same. Maybe in the future, there will be more events for transgender because they may ask for or make a policy that they are the same as men and women. But for bookies, I don't know much about it because until now, transgender matches have not been very popular in many countries, and only certain countries allow it.

Well I don't think there's many transgender out there and the reason they're transgender isn't for sport, but they want to make his looks like female/man and that's for money purpose or popularity. I think transgender do have extra treatment for his body, so they're not really free like the real gender.

I have nothing against transgender in fact I admire these people for being true to themselves and achieving their freedom to be themselves but we are talking about sports, I believe natural women should go against natural women and I'm fully supporting events exclusively for them in fact we should encourage events that will make them excels because they too have contribution to sports, and we must not discriminate them.

I do not think that there will be no significance if the game involves a transgender or not- what matters is that the game is competitive and is available to all for betting.

There have been some discussions about allowing transgender people to participate to their respective sexes. Since a transgender person also involves the change of hormones and physical physique, there will be naturally some sort of gender bias in their participation to the events. Though this may be the case, I doubt that it would be of such significance to warrant this kind of prohibition.

It will be in favor of the transgender we cannot stop thinking that the participant was once a man and he retains some train of being a man and that's a huge disadvantage for the transgender even if science proves otherwise, I will bet if I really want to make money, but I doubt if you are going to really make money from betting because the majority will still bet for the transgender, we all know gamblers bet for athletes with a slight advantage over the others.

Its a fact that discrimination exist everywhere even this 2022 either race, occupation, gender, age and looks is the worse kind of it. There is no denying to this but I think the transgender community has to understand that it discrimination always exist.

If the sports org and competing women doesnt protest, then its good. If there is, I guess accepting it is just the way it is. But I would certainly bet on the transgender if allowed to participate.

Obviously the transgender "women" are going to have a massive biological advantage in any physically demanding sports against the biological, real women. So why would I not take the free cake and bet on them? Of course I would. I am sure that there are people so fundamentally woke they would rather lose money than acknowledge reality but I do not belong to that specific group of people. Nor would I ever wish to belong to them.

People's lives in the west have become so comfortable and boring that they are actively seeking problems. And when they do not find them, they make problems up. Problems which never existed and should have never existed.

Transgenders strength has an edge over women because they were naturally born as men. I think that won't be a fair sport if they will fight against each other. I'm not against transgender or even discriminating against them but they could create their community in sports gambling without harming women. Some women might also feel uncomfortable fighting against transgenders.

It would be wonderful if they had their own specific sport category. However, if they are given this option, I believe there are fewer of them here. Another issue is that some transgender people dislike being labeled as such, making it difficult for them to reveal their gender when playing sports, even if they are interested in doing so.

I think not  ::) Transgender events are a bit new and it would be hard for betters to get player information since we can expect that players are new to the eyes of the people. That way the better confidence are a bit low. I'm sure that the hype within that kind of events is high especially on their own community but we can expect it to go down after some weeks and people might lose interest since people are more interested in more skilled or famous athletes that are playing the same game.

In order for the bet to be profitable, you need to not only know the sporting event you are betting on well, but you need to know it better than bookmakers and find the moment when they make a mistake. If such a market appears, then it will probably fit such an algorithm of actions, since this market will be scanty and difficult to predict.

No, the exact reason I wouldn't bet anything when don't know the team of each player. Actually I was quite surprised to hear that there are sports with special players like them, sorry but to be honest I prefer women's or men's sports, because there are already competitions in any league regarding this. Because Transgender is still new, so its strength is still in doubt, haven't seen any betting market that makes this event too.

That is right, we shouldn't be against on those types of gender because that will be discrimination and they will feel hurt if they know it. They are also a person that is created by god which should be treated normally or equally as what we treat the others. Seeing their past games would not be possible if this is going to be the first time they will create such category but that shouldn't discourage you from betting.

You can still place a bet based on your instincts and you can use smaller amounts only for the first time. The response or the interest of the people right now for this category is low but that is because they are not being advertised and the focus are always on the common genders.

In fact, technically it shouldn't matter. The odds you see at the bookmakers are based on facts. So whether you bet on a man, woman or transgender that has no influence. Of course, a transgender man to woman is stronger because of the testosterone that the body produces. But then the chances of winning the event are higher, so the odds will be lower. We have already seen a case of a transgender person in the past, but I do believe that all kinds of tests and examinations have been carried out by doctors and before to check the testosterone level.

Expect the unexpected on where people cant really just easily accept on where there are people who would really make this as a serious matter and really giving out some negative insights and words in relation with

gender which it turns out to be already disrespectful on particular point which isnt a must thing on ending up on that way.I dont mind about making out some bets as long it would really be fair and square where those

trans will really be fighting against on the same gender yet if you do really make out some clash in between pure females or pure males then we do see the differences.

Interesting question. For me it would not be as much about the fact that is transgender or otherwise gender related, it is more about the even and about the possibility of having a better understanding of the possible outcomes than other people, so that I have a better chance of winning the bets. I am not much involved in transgender stuff, so I guess I would not have much of an advantage.

Many factors for me, if I don't have an idea on what sports they're going to play then that's a no. And even if I know the sports they play and I have no idea about the participants on those sporting events, that's still a no. Unless I want to yolo and want to try betting on them with smaller amounts then that's totally ok. It's interesting that they also have sporting events, this gives no discrimination at all but if it relates to our money and bets, I think we're having a time to think if it's worth it to bet or not.

Maybe someday, sports betting sites and online casinos will be interested in making an event about the match, but we don't know whether it will be allowed because some parties may not like the game. But like you said, if it's a smaller bet, then that's fine and I agree. This will likely be more complicated for regulatory bodies to discuss as it could involve local laws so it could not be easy to accept the event.

This is a tricky situation. Most of the transgender athletes identify as female. But they can't be allowed to compete with biological females, because in that case the trans athletes will have an unfair advantage over the other participants. Creating a separate category is out of question as well, since the population is not large enough to justify that. The only remaining option is to ask them to compete along the male athletes. The trans athletes are not going to like this idea, but it is the only workable solution to this issue.

Several sports federations have even started a study on the participation of transgender athletes and the results of a vote conducted at the World Aquatic Federation (FINA) stated that the participation of transgender athletes in the women's event was prohibited.
The right step is to compete with male athletes, although transgender people don't really agree.
As athletes should not be deemed to have an unfair or disproportionate competitive advantage because of variations in their gender, physical appearance and/or transgender status.

In terms of betting, there really is no difference. In conventional sports, it often happens that one athlete (or team) dominates all the others by a large margin. But everyone understands that if transgender people participate in women's competitions, then most likely they will dominate there (for some reason, I have not heard of a single transgender who would show good results in men's competitions). Therefore, for the sake of justice, despite all the nuances, transgenders should have their own separate categories.

Transgenders in strength and physique are in a position below men and above women which I think should have its own category in every sport or competition as you mentioned, because there will be a balance of strength and physique or whatever is in balance.
but I don't know what sports are suitable for transgender because most of them are not serious and you're going to be an entertainment sport, and if I were betting I wouldn't because there's no point in doing thorough research on transgender. Because there are many more interesting and educational sports betting, and I can't imagine if there is a transgender sport there will be a generation.

Oh man, why do I have the gambling section on ignore?!  Fuckin' great topics like these just don't exist anywhere aside from maybe P&S.

If I was a gambling man, there's no way in hell I'd bet on transgender sports.  Why?  Because there's a reason male and female sports have always been separated, no matter what your opinions on gender are.  Men who aren't on androgen blockers or estrogens are, on average, stronger than females.  And if we're talking about professional athletes who train for their sport, there's no question men would have the advantage (on average, and if the sport depends on physical strength).

With transgendered people, all bets are off.  Someone could say they made a male-to-female transition, but with the politically correct environment we live in right now, who's going to even challenge that?  Ugh.  What a world we live in.

We don't know, but it seems like some transgender people out there want to play sports but don't feel as free as men/women do. And maybe that's why they create an event or some club for them, like a club made for men/women. The purpose of each will be different, and we also don't know their goals and reasons. We can only hope that in the future, there will be no problems in each country that allows transgender so that everything can run well.

Well, they'll have to put it on their books if there's a demand and who doesn't want to capitalize and profit from it? Bookies will have it listed if it's necessary and there's a legitimate demand for it. But if it's just a sound to promote anti-discrimination and there's no actual demand for it, they'll have it listed temporarily but they will delist it later as it's just going to cost them money and at least they're trying to save the cost for their operations.

The good news is that now many athletes are openly opposing transgender people in their competitions and this has already paid off. Recently, the swimming federation banned transgender people from participating in women's competitions (if they did not make the transition before puberty - a small indulgence, but I hope the ban will be complete soon). I see the society is already ripe to remove this nonsense.

Gamblers, of course, want to take advantage of all the bets and if they have information about a match of course, they will want to join. But if later during the match there are complaints or demonstrations about their rejection of the match, it may be postponed for a while. But we'll see what happens later and in the meantime, the casinos might as well see their odds if they host the event at their casino.

I will love to do bet on this one . there are friends of mine that is also a sportsperson but not given a chance in showing their skills as they are discriminated in my country , But now that there will be a league for them ?
i am looking for this to put my bet supporting them and their sports .
i cannot imagine a sports that will be purely transgender than combining them with normal gender.

I don't understand where this is going anymore but with the increasing number of transgender people wanting to be recognized, I predict that in the future there will be potential for transgender special sports to be created (we will likely see 3 sporting events (women, men and transgender)).

but if they are mixed against pure gender then I won't want to bet on it.

I guess it doesn't matter too much at the end of the day it is a sports game and once they make an allow with these participants it doesn't matter because there's permission with it if this player has the capabilities to play with there's a good chance I will make a bet on it.

I'm not interested in betting on their sports, however, if it's in my favorite sports and they will allow a transgender, then I have no choice but to put my bet as I don't want to sacrifice my wants to be entertained by the kind of debate on whether they are allowed to play or not.

Personally, I treat differently the sports that I just want for fun and the sports that I bet on because I'm serious when it comes to betting.

I don't think so. It's a niche market so to speak. And even if it did develop into mainstream one day, it's going to take a LOOONNG time. Just considering the fact that there's still a part of the population that's against transgenders, you can already see that the market it has would be pretty small. Not that I'm saying the event is bad or anything, just that prejudice for it still exists. But yea, beyond that, if the game is entertaining and the competition exists, given time it should be able to build it's own market.

That is a great move from the federation of one of the best sports in the world,I think the ban will be complete soon.Society has been created male and female by the supernatural power,God or selective nature,call it what you want but there is a reason why male/female was created otherwise the creator/nature/superpower would have also created a third gender,the transgender one but didn't do so,so there must be a valid reason for that.I honestly do not understand at all how a human being can opt to change their genre from male to female and vice versa,that is out of my understanding but maybe I am dumb and these are smart.Maybe we are near the apocalypse and these are valid signs,the world has become a pretty f*cked up place to live in.

I wouldnt bet on this at all,even if it was available on every possible gambling market. I think its just stupid to consider making bets on any category of this sort. Also i dont know even if they wanted to how they would market this and put it in all of the sportsbooks

Thisel new just came out today about transgender allowed to join sports whichever they like whether its for men or women according to the German Football Association.

They can independently chose whether to plat for men or women according to Association. This is foorball though so theyre not gonna wear bikinis 😁

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-10945639/amp/German-football-let-transgender-players-CHOOSE-play-men-women.html

As they say before, teenage rebellion was expressed in a pierced ear, then in a mohawk, and now it's a sex change  ;D
The fact that the world has gone mad is obvious to me. Because even if we share the theory of the gender spectrum by 100%, then there is still no logical reason for a trans woman (with a male body) to take part in women's competitions. This is exactly the joke when "a motorcyclist identifying himself as a cyclist won a race among cyclists."