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June 23, 2022, 09:45:57 PM |
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If they are making the transgender only event,sure there will be a market for them,but will it be popular? Looking at the respond of the people,i think it will take quite a long time for it to be recognized.Will i bet for this kind of event? If there are many people who participate,why not?
I'm not against transgender or something in related which answering the question if I do make some bets? Of course if I could see and know their past games or statistics because that what matter the most where games you do know and the players involved and their history and other related facts.Doesnt matter on what's the gender as long it do suits your interest and preferred sports and knowledge then thats what really counts. That is right, we shouldn't be against on those types of gender because that will be discrimination and they will feel hurt if they know it. They are also a person that is created by god which should be treated normally or equally as what we treat the others. Seeing their past games would not be possible if this is going to be the first time they will create such category but that shouldn't discourage you from betting. You can still place a bet based on your instincts and you can use smaller amounts only for the first time. The response or the interest of the people right now for this category is low but that is because they are not being advertised and the focus are always on the common genders. Expect the unexpected on where people cant really just easily accept on where there are people who would really make this as a serious matter and really giving out some negative insights and words in relation with gender which it turns out to be already disrespectful on particular point which isnt a must thing on ending up on that way.I dont mind about making out some bets as long it would really be fair and square where those trans will really be fighting against on the same gender yet if you do really make out some clash in between pure females or pure males then we do see the differences.
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June 23, 2022, 09:48:24 PM |
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Interesting question. For me it would not be as much about the fact that is transgender or otherwise gender related, it is more about the even and about the possibility of having a better understanding of the possible outcomes than other people, so that I have a better chance of winning the bets. I am not much involved in transgender stuff, so I guess I would not have much of an advantage.
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June 23, 2022, 11:07:36 PM |
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Many factors for me, if I don't have an idea on what sports they're going to play then that's a no. And even if I know the sports they play and I have no idea about the participants on those sporting events, that's still a no. Unless I want to yolo and want to try betting on them with smaller amounts then that's totally ok. It's interesting that they also have sporting events, this gives no discrimination at all but if it relates to our money and bets, I think we're having a time to think if it's worth it to bet or not.
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Maybe someday, sports betting sites and online casinos will be interested in making an event about the match, but we don't know whether it will be allowed because some parties may not like the game. But like you said, if it's a smaller bet, then that's fine and I agree. This will likely be more complicated for regulatory bodies to discuss as it could involve local laws so it could not be easy to accept the event.
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This is a tricky situation. Most of the transgender athletes identify as female. But they can't be allowed to compete with biological females, because in that case the trans athletes will have an unfair advantage over the other participants. Creating a separate category is out of question as well, since the population is not large enough to justify that. The only remaining option is to ask them to compete along the male athletes. The trans athletes are not going to like this idea, but it is the only workable solution to this issue.
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June 24, 2022, 02:55:20 AM |
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This is a tricky situation. Most of the transgender athletes identify as female. But they can't be allowed to compete with biological females, because in that case the trans athletes will have an unfair advantage over the other participants. Creating a separate category is out of question as well, since the population is not large enough to justify that. The only remaining option is to ask them to compete along the male athletes. The trans athletes are not going to like this idea, but it is the only workable solution to this issue.
Several sports federations have even started a study on the participation of transgender athletes and the results of a vote conducted at the World Aquatic Federation (FINA) stated that the participation of transgender athletes in the women's event was prohibited. The right step is to compete with male athletes, although transgender people don't really agree. As athletes should not be deemed to have an unfair or disproportionate competitive advantage because of variations in their gender, physical appearance and/or transgender status.
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June 24, 2022, 01:09:48 PM |
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I do not think that there will be no significance if the game involves a transgender or not- what matters is that the game is competitive and is available to all for betting.
There have been some discussions about allowing transgender people to participate to their respective sexes. Since a transgender person also involves the change of hormones and physical physique, there will be naturally some sort of gender bias in their participation to the events. Though this may be the case, I doubt that it would be of such significance to warrant this kind of prohibition.
In terms of betting, there really is no difference. In conventional sports, it often happens that one athlete (or team) dominates all the others by a large margin. But everyone understands that if transgender people participate in women's competitions, then most likely they will dominate there (for some reason, I have not heard of a single transgender who would show good results in men's competitions). Therefore, for the sake of justice, despite all the nuances, transgenders should have their own separate categories.
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June 24, 2022, 01:31:05 PM |
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I do not think that there will be no significance if the game involves a transgender or not- what matters is that the game is competitive and is available to all for betting.
There have been some discussions about allowing transgender people to participate to their respective sexes. Since a transgender person also involves the change of hormones and physical physique, there will be naturally some sort of gender bias in their participation to the events. Though this may be the case, I doubt that it would be of such significance to warrant this kind of prohibition.
In terms of betting, there really is no difference. In conventional sports, it often happens that one athlete (or team) dominates all the others by a large margin. But everyone understands that if transgender people participate in women's competitions, then most likely they will dominate there (for some reason, I have not heard of a single transgender who would show good results in men's competitions). Therefore, for the sake of justice, despite all the nuances, transgenders should have their own separate categories. Transgenders in strength and physique are in a position below men and above women which I think should have its own category in every sport or competition as you mentioned, because there will be a balance of strength and physique or whatever is in balance. but I don't know what sports are suitable for transgender because most of them are not serious and you're going to be an entertainment sport, and if I were betting I wouldn't because there's no point in doing thorough research on transgender. Because there are many more interesting and educational sports betting, and I can't imagine if there is a transgender sport there will be a generation.
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Oh man, why do I have the gambling section on ignore?! Fuckin' great topics like these just don't exist anywhere aside from maybe P&S.
If I was a gambling man, there's no way in hell I'd bet on transgender sports. Why? Because there's a reason male and female sports have always been separated, no matter what your opinions on gender are. Men who aren't on androgen blockers or estrogens are, on average, stronger than females. And if we're talking about professional athletes who train for their sport, there's no question men would have the advantage (on average, and if the sport depends on physical strength).
With transgendered people, all bets are off. Someone could say they made a male-to-female transition, but with the politically correct environment we live in right now, who's going to even challenge that? Ugh. What a world we live in.
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June 24, 2022, 02:18:20 PM |
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Well I don't think there's many transgender out there and the reason they're transgender isn't for sport, but they want to make his looks like female/man and that's for money purpose or popularity. I think transgender do have extra treatment for his body, so they're not really free like the real gender. We don't know, but it seems like some transgender people out there want to play sports but don't feel as free as men/women do. And maybe that's why they create an event or some club for them, like a club made for men/women. The purpose of each will be different, and we also don't know their goals and reasons. We can only hope that in the future, there will be no problems in each country that allows transgender so that everything can run well.
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Maybe someday, sports betting sites and online casinos will be interested in making an event about the match, but we don't know whether it will be allowed because some parties may not like the game. But like you said, if it's a smaller bet, then that's fine and I agree. This will likely be more complicated for regulatory bodies to discuss as it could involve local laws so it could not be easy to accept the event. Well, they'll have to put it on their books if there's a demand and who doesn't want to capitalize and profit from it? Bookies will have it listed if it's necessary and there's a legitimate demand for it. But if it's just a sound to promote anti-discrimination and there's no actual demand for it, they'll have it listed temporarily but they will delist it later as it's just going to cost them money and at least they're trying to save the cost for their operations.
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Oh man, why do I have the gambling section on ignore?! Fuckin' great topics like these just don't exist anywhere aside from maybe P&S.
If I was a gambling man, there's no way in hell I'd bet on transgender sports. Why? Because there's a reason male and female sports have always been separated, no matter what your opinions on gender are. Men who aren't on androgen blockers or estrogens are, on average, stronger than females. And if we're talking about professional athletes who train for their sport, there's no question men would have the advantage (on average, and if the sport depends on physical strength).
With transgendered people, all bets are off. Someone could say they made a male-to-female transition, but with the politically correct environment we live in right now, who's going to even challenge that? Ugh. What a world we live in.
The good news is that now many athletes are openly opposing transgender people in their competitions and this has already paid off. Recently, the swimming federation banned transgender people from participating in women's competitions (if they did not make the transition before puberty - a small indulgence, but I hope the ban will be complete soon). I see the society is already ripe to remove this nonsense.
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Gamblers, of course, want to take advantage of all the bets and if they have information about a match of course, they will want to join. But if later during the match there are complaints or demonstrations about their rejection of the match, it may be postponed for a while. But we'll see what happens later and in the meantime, the casinos might as well see their odds if they host the event at their casino.
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I will love to do bet on this one . there are friends of mine that is also a sportsperson but not given a chance in showing their skills as they are discriminated in my country , But now that there will be a league for them ? i am looking for this to put my bet supporting them and their sports . i cannot imagine a sports that will be purely transgender than combining them with normal gender.
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I don't understand where this is going anymore but with the increasing number of transgender people wanting to be recognized, I predict that in the future there will be potential for transgender special sports to be created (we will likely see 3 sporting events (women, men and transgender)).
but if they are mixed against pure gender then I won't want to bet on it.
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I guess it doesn't matter too much at the end of the day it is a sports game and once they make an allow with these participants it doesn't matter because there's permission with it if this player has the capabilities to play with there's a good chance I will make a bet on it.
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I'm not interested in betting on their sports, however, if it's in my favorite sports and they will allow a transgender, then I have no choice but to put my bet as I don't want to sacrifice my wants to be entertained by the kind of debate on whether they are allowed to play or not.
Personally, I treat differently the sports that I just want for fun and the sports that I bet on because I'm serious when it comes to betting.
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June 25, 2022, 10:58:42 AM |
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I don't think so. It's a niche market so to speak. And even if it did develop into mainstream one day, it's going to take a LOOONNG time. Just considering the fact that there's still a part of the population that's against transgenders, you can already see that the market it has would be pretty small. Not that I'm saying the event is bad or anything, just that prejudice for it still exists. But yea, beyond that, if the game is entertaining and the competition exists, given time it should be able to build it's own market.
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June 25, 2022, 12:28:23 PM |
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Oh man, why do I have the gambling section on ignore?! Fuckin' great topics like these just don't exist anywhere aside from maybe P&S.
If I was a gambling man, there's no way in hell I'd bet on transgender sports. Why? Because there's a reason male and female sports have always been separated, no matter what your opinions on gender are. Men who aren't on androgen blockers or estrogens are, on average, stronger than females. And if we're talking about professional athletes who train for their sport, there's no question men would have the advantage (on average, and if the sport depends on physical strength).
With transgendered people, all bets are off. Someone could say they made a male-to-female transition, but with the politically correct environment we live in right now, who's going to even challenge that? Ugh. What a world we live in.
The good news is that now many athletes are openly opposing transgender people in their competitions and this has already paid off. Recently, the swimming federation banned transgender people from participating in women's competitions (if they did not make the transition before puberty - a small indulgence, but I hope the ban will be complete soon). I see the society is already ripe to remove this nonsense. That is a great move from the federation of one of the best sports in the world,I think the ban will be complete soon.Society has been created male and female by the supernatural power,God or selective nature,call it what you want but there is a reason why male/female was created otherwise the creator/nature/superpower would have also created a third gender,the transgender one but didn't do so,so there must be a valid reason for that.I honestly do not understand at all how a human being can opt to change their genre from male to female and vice versa,that is out of my understanding but maybe I am dumb and these are smart.Maybe we are near the apocalypse and these are valid signs,the world has become a pretty f*cked up place to live in.
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June 25, 2022, 01:58:34 PM |
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I wouldnt bet on this at all,even if it was available on every possible gambling market. I think its just stupid to consider making bets on any category of this sort. Also i dont know even if they wanted to how they would market this and put it in all of the sportsbooks
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