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There you go again back to your old habit this is what your trust rating says based on what one of the reputable bounty managers Yahoo says you are spreading lies again because you did not read the rules again, after sports bets you are now targetting Duelbits I wonder what's the next casino you'll create a FUD.

I've never used duelbits, but judging from your trust rating which was passed by one of the most reputable campaign managers on the forum, it is evident what your plan is.
Whether your claim against duelbits is true or false, it is left for the users of duelbits to decide, but for the new users who want to use duelbits, I will advise you all not to believe this op, go to duelbits, read and understand properly the rules of the game, and I believe you won't encounter or have any issues.

It is mentioned in their Terms that they may require additional user information. Last part under the "User Account"
https://duelbits.com/tos

Asking KYC is pretty common among online casinos now and yes most of them asked upon withdrawal. I remember a representative saying they do not have time to review every account that registers. They only flag users with "unusual" betting behavior or those that wins big in most cases. Your case is probably either of the two.

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You could say the same for almost every book?  KYC has become a mandate for any sportsbook now. Either that or you account will be severely limited when it comes to maxbet limit.

You should have looked for a site which won't ask for "KYC" and maybe then you wouldn't be crying now. Check out nitrogensports. AFAIK, if they allow your country then they won't ask for KYC.
Don't take my word on it, do your own research too.

Stop being an idiot. Peace.

I hate to break it to you, but that is simply not true.

From DuelBits AML and KYC policy:
source: https://duelbits.com/aml

Now, don't tell me you didn't read the terms of service before you deposited your funds at the casino. Shame on you!  :D

Platforms asking KYC to process your withdrawal is a common thing, that is why it is almost impossible to have a platform that doesn't require KYC all throughout your stay with them. Some of these KYC are not actually as aggressive and require only your basic info so I don't see why you're flaming so hard.

Oh and that negative rating of yours regarding a similar accusation confirms that you are not actually playing on these casinos, and that you are only spreading false claims about them.

I guess Policies aren't included in OP's definition of "anywhere" ::) Honestly would be odd for players not to expect KYC when withdrawing in most casinos, it's almost become a regular thing imo, especially for those big ones out there.

Why people always need to be judged the current situation from their previous doing? Why don't just inspect what had happened and say things after.

To OP, seems like you were born just yesterday who doesn't know how casino works while you sounds like have tried almost all casinos.
Of course, KYC is always a thing in every casino particularly the big ones. Make a habit of reading terms/aml too before registering.
Stop being an idiot ⁽²⁾.

The feedback left by Yahoo62278 makes more sense now


I have looked at your post history, and it seems you are the problem. You don't read well the terms of service, the game rules and also fail to interpret most of them, and then you start accusing the casinos of scamming you.

@OP.

It's usually the thing in many casinos, when you're about to withdraw and your funds aren't clear to them then you have to be asked for KYC. It can be found on any casino's TOS and they have the right to do that.

We're not defending them or any casino that does this but we need to read that part that they can ask at any time that they wish to do if something is found in our accounts and balances.

The people must always read the Terms of Service before wasting their precious money/cryptocurrencies on an online casino.
Complaining about KYC verification as if you were scammed by that casino simply isn't serious. Nowadays KYC is everywhere. You can't open online bank accounts, FOREX trading accounts, crypto trading accounts, online casino accounts, etc. The list goes on and on. Whining about KYC is pointless. Is there a reason you can't verify your identity, like living in a restricted country or being under 18? If yes, then nobody can help you. Just waste your money gambling on Duelbits and have fun.

It's not his first time as you can see in his feedback lol but casinos are doing all these KYC already. You can't escape it if you want to gamble and withdraw. It's 2022, and things have changed. One thing you wanna do is just don't gamble if you don't want to send documents. You don't even have to read TOs these days anymore, you just have to understand the norm and what the casinos normally do now.

Most casinos have KYC in place but will only use them when a certain amount is surpassed in the withdrawal process,most casinos having to ask KYC for 500-1000 dollars withdrawals and they have every right in the world to know their customer,who they are paying to when bigger amounts are being requested for withdrawals.As soon as you provide them the national ID card or passport they let the withdrawal pass through so there is nothing to worry here.

I personally never have been asked for KYC as I only withdraw in small chunks a maximum of 0.01-0.02 per withdrawal and so far no casino has asked me for KYC but this does not mean they will not ask anyone.It is in their sole discretion what they do including Duelbits.

The history of his post can already describe what Op looks like, he has many complaints to many casinos but actually it's all his fault. If the Casino never includes in the ToS that they can ask for KYC then players can object if they are finally obliged to do that but unfortunately most of the fault is on players who don't want to read about ToS and immediately claim the casino applies the rules to hold players' money.

Are you missed of this sentence? or you didn't even check the TOS and search about KYC stuff? That's fault belong on you, not Duelbits. It's already clear that a licensed casino will ask you KYC when their system suspect you've doing something suspicious.

If you can't accept that, then you should gamble in this casino at all! But most of casinos will ask KYC, so I don't think you will have many choice.

Obviously, his complaint is just a pure rant which is unreliable and could be considered as Fud. It will be unfair to a reputable site if you'll spread negative accusations about it if you're actually the one who committed a mistake. Before registering on a casino site, you're always asked to read the TOS first which is necessary for you to avoid breaking their rules. I think Op missed doing that.

Seems like an open and shut case, Johnson.  :P

Obviously OP is at fault for not reading the terms and conditions. Although after having taken a look at his trust ratings its obvious this is not the first time he has been trying to slap mud on the name of a trusted online gambling casino. Say what you like but it even seems like giving casinos a bad name is his job. I wonder if other casinos hire him to do this?

Either way its what I would deem Libel. The casinos he has continually defamed could give him a bad time if they wanted.

Why is it that the reference link in This guys's (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1980036) trust page put by 'yahoo' send you to the betnomi thread while the comment says the user tried to cheat on sportsbet ?

Its a bit confusing.

Read a little more clearly. It says placed sportsbets, not anything about sportsbet.io. It is just saying that the user bets sports on casinos and does not read the rules of that casinos sportsbetting platform. What is a valid bet and what isn't.

Ah, I see. My bad then.

on this KYC issue, I think that for crypto casinos it is a little unnecessary that people ask people to KYC in a mandatory way, but rules are rules and you accepted it when you created an account on DUELBITS, now I don't understand, what was the amount that did you try to withdraw? can you tell us?

did you contact support and what did they say?


this is the point: " ask for KYC when the person is doing something suspicious " in this case OP needs to say what amount he was trying to withdraw and if he contacted support and what support said as a justification for asking for KYC

The reference link (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5279745.1860) points to a full page of replies in the Betnomi thread. Please read through the whole page right from brandonlang's Fake scam accusation (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5279745.msg59351091#msg59351091) and then you will understand what kind of person he is.

You can also check more information in this other scam accusation - Betnomi scam bet settlement manipulation (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5389092)
 And it was not just betnomi if you look at his post history. He just does not read and understand ToS.

OP, here is a thread by user Mahdirakib: Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5381143.0).

This might somehow guide you in your next choice of crypto casino. Most of them actually don't demand KYC when you register or open an account, but there might come a time in the future when they will require it from you. This will probably happen when there's a significant amount of money that's to be withdrawn. This may sound sneaky but this is the prevailing practice, unfortunately.

instead of gaining support? all you got is criticism because your account seems to be created just to make issues against casino here and there and checking your posts? you looks like a paid account to attack each casino that needs to be targeted .
Am not sure if he is interested in checking those sites that needs KYC , because the way he posted this is a complete direct attack to Duelbits and nothing more.

No. Not for all of them but most of them:

Information of Crypto Casinos License and KYC requirements
 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5381143.0)

And I expect that in the future the list of casinos that do not require KYC will be further reduced.


On this I agree. I don't know what the OP hopes to achieve by crying in this thread, and seeing the negative feedback he has, even less so.

Hey !
I think am qualified to answer your query here since I myself used duelbits for a while before and honestly at that time there was no need to do KYC therefore you have to remember that if I did go back there again I would be quite shocked ofcourse but that does not mean that the casino is bad or something like that? For me I would be able to provide KYC as well if needed because the casino is legit and I do understand the matter of privacy but we can only reason that much with the government at the end of the day, most of the casinos operating in legit grounds have huge pressure over their head and if they are asking for KYC honestly you either gotta switch or provide one, try blackjack.fun they didn't ask for KYC from me yet but do understand that, any casino that you are playing on May ask for it in the future because it does not entirely depend on the casino, it's both the casino and the government.

Not true. Duelbits only requires KYC if you violate there ToS or you have irregular transaction history on your Duelbits account. They will not ask for KYC out of the blue just because you withdraw your balance because I withdraw hundred times on Duelbits before and until now my account is still not KYC’d. This is baseless accusation and probably you have something personal against this casino. Just move on whatever you have against this casino and to other casino that you are targeting with your non-constructive criticism.

I think you need to put proofs here mate , it is not fair that you will just post like this without any evidence that duelbits is asking you KYC for no reason , Maybe they find irregularities from your account activities thats why they ask you for Verification , and I find it normal if they did , the important thing here is that once you prove your innocence then your funds will be awarded and that is what you need to prove here.

Mate i already told you what i did. Created account , Made deposit around 200$ , won bet, wanted to withdraw, and recieve kyc email. Thats all. Surely someone from this pirate sportsbook can came here and tell what im saying its true

No nobody will come here and says that you are telling the truth without you showing anything to us, we are already two pages there are attacks on your reputation but still, you are not posting anything that will show what you're saying this time are all correct, as long as you are not posting proof the attack will continue and you can possibly earn more red tag in your account.

https://ibb.co/BB6CFKZ
https://ibb.co/NSP7P3N
https://ibb.co/zx30FD8

Anything more sir?

You should add this picture on your original post as your proof. Provide also your conversation with the support that stated that they are forcing you to KYC so that we can see the reason on what’s really going on. They will not ask you without any valid reason.

The picture above doesn’t explain everything about your case because you are claiming they ask you about KYC. They surely sent you an email explaining your case and you just made an accusation here because you don’t want there findings.

Support didnt give me any reason for kyc. Only said they are on their right to ask me for it

If you really want to withdraw your earned profits then why don't you just comply with the KYC requirements? I don't see any reason for you to fear the KYC if you haven't broken any of their TOS. However, you should really provide proof so others won't doubt your accusation. You need to do that so others could also help you if needed.

I dont want to do kyc cause i dont want government know i hold any crypto. I dont know with who this people are going to share my data

OP has a bad habit so its better to just put him on the "ignore" list. AFAIK, duelbits requires their users to follow KYC level 1, so those who don't like KYC should try another gambling site but those who don't mind, continue playing at duelbits.

if you actually read their ToS you'd know that they mention that they may ask you for additional information. do not blame the casino because you are too lazy to read their rules and are now crying here in the forum making false allegations that Duelbits never mention anything about KYC on their ToS.

you shouldn't have created an account on their gambling site if you didn't want to follow their rules.

Is that why you banned people from playing on Duelbits? I don't think you have the right when someone who has been in Duelbits long enough doesn't mind the rules. Due to the fact that not all casinos that implement KYC are bad. Simply put, if you don't like casino KYC then there are plenty of places to go, instead of spreading bans you don't have the privilege of banning others.

Trust me Duelbits casino has a lot of users, and you would really hate it if they came here to embarrass you.

Why can people not see the need for casinos to ask for KYC requirements when people do withdrawals? There are a lot of ways for people to misuse Sportbooks... and KYC requirements are one of the ways for them to counter it.

The regulated casinos have some obligations towards their license authority, so if they do not adhere to their requirements... they could lose their license.

Duelbits made this clear in their ToS .... so there should not be any confusion about this.  ::)

Duelbit is a reputable and trusted casino which we all know on this forum, and it clearly stated on it's terms and conditions that KYC could be asked if a withdrawal is seen to be suspicious. So i am actually surprised to see this, I guess you should have read the terms and conditions to your understanding before proceeding to register an account or make this complaint..
Check this out
https://i.ibb.co/RvXhYkB/Polish-20220810-214359839.jpg (https://ibb.co/Pm2TFv9)

Obviously, you are a newbie, you are not reading the rules and TOS of the gambling casinos you're playing and this allegation backfires on you, majority of casinos whether fiat or Cryptocurrency have specified that they are going to ask KYC if they think that the account is questionable and this is to fully check that the account is abiding on their rules, two things you are not aware of this rule or you are cheating and don't want to get caught, your allegation will not stand because of your ignorance of the rules.

Better read the TOS as other people suggested you to do because from there you can read a lot of things what casino requires you to do. Also if the money involves is huge and if they find it questionable due to activities you made for sure a casino will verify your details so that they can see that the real owner still handling the account, just threat this as sign of protecting your account so Kyc is not a big deal at all.

I guess the OP didn't read the terms and conditions of the casino before she make use of it and then raise an alarm when she was told to go through KYC when she wanted to withdraw huge funds.
I believe it is time crypto gamblers understand that casinos will introduce KYC when a huge fund is involved and in the future theres a huge chance that the no KYC casino we see today will also implement KYC if they want to stay in business.

^ Probably OP did not read the ToS because he is very lazy at reading long paragraphs content.
This is very important to us as a gambler, we should always look first at the Tos and read it carefully because the casino implements rules that should be followed under their terms. I don't know there someone who believes in the OP since we all know here that Duelbits was already building their reputation very well and we don't hear any issues like this. OP deserved the negative tag he got.

he had mentioned in his other post that he is not in compliance with TOS as he posted this


though as a Gambler it is His or our obligation to check it out first before considering to deposit and play because in the end this is always been the issue after the betting and winning comes.

KYC is part of every gambling site , even those who are not Implementing from the beginning but sooner or later you will be demanded with KYC so we must get use to it.

Maybe OP is preventing himself from being used for 3rd party user as we cannot be a sure how our details will be safe, but remember that when joining or participating in Crypto or Online gambling ? you must learn how to deal with KYC .

Gamblers should already be used to these regulations. AMLC requires gambling websites to verify the identity of their users so they have no choice but to implement these rules to maintain their licenses. Complying to KYC really puts your private information at risk that is why you should only do it on a reputable gambling website. If you are really afraid to provide information on such websites then it would be better to just go to a real casino.

As some of the posters above mentioned, it's tough to take op seriously due to his negative trust rating. Crypto gambling sites usually only ask for KYC if they find something suspicious or if you are withdrawing a huge amount based on my experiences with them.

Duelbits is one of these sites that never forced me to submit KYC so far which is why I believe that op is wrong in this case.

Nope you have just tell me now so how to I know whats the real score? you did not even post that in OP so I think best to Edit the OP so details will be acknowledge by others.

how much have you won? I have encountered being asked for KYC also back days though this is not Duelbits but same scenario as yours when I won and needs withdrawal , but upon complying and clearing my account ? all my funds have been returned completely .

The answer here is simple if the gambling site ask you for KYC then best to provide it right away and make no issue , because no matter what you wanted to not comply yet it is their right to ask for it.

You are not new from this section as you have been tagged for doing something similar , if you are a legit player and hiding nothing then bring the KYC verification and let the Duelbits Team do their job and so the funds will shortly bring back to you if they find no reason for banning or taking your amount.

Newbie people maybe care to much about their Identity since they heard to much negative story about the risk for providing it on your people and I can't blame him to have that conclusion because for sure all of us hate KYC at first that's why there's many discussion about this from past threads created by various people. And since this is much adopted as reputable casinos are now doing some good things for legalization I guess KYC ask by them will not be a problem at all.

I don`t see any problem here. This is the standard practice for the several last years. The cryptocurrency exchanges do the same, not only casinos. The main problem, as i see, is that the OP didn`t read ToS and got problems with the casino due to it. The best way is to read ToS before deposit and choose the casino without any KYC, if it is a problem for you.

Those who will not create an account are those who are ignorant on the rules of not only Duelbits but what majority of casinos are implementing and those who want to cheat on casinos with an anti-cheat like Duelbits



Duelbits is not hiding anything they have a page dedicated to AML you can find it here https://duelbits.com/aml read it you failed to read when you sign up and bet.

They why on earth are you using the casinos whose Terms and conditions are clear on AML and KYC in the first place?

You do realize that you are the one who has a problem here, right? If you don't want to verify KYC then f**K off and stop complaining here.

That is your legitimate right, and I respect that. Although, I don't know how important it is for the government to know that you keep any crypto unless it is illegal in your country. And, if you're gambling with a portion of your stash in the casino, you don't have to reveal the whole thing. There are mixers, coinjoin, and other methods you can use.

Regardless, if that's how you feel, then I recommend using fiat instead of crypto for gambling, or even better, don't use casinos that clearly state in their terms of service that they have a KYC policy in compliance with laws and regulations.

For sure some people had this mindset of going into doing business with all this centralized platforms and expect no to pass through their know your customer process (KYC) and many times they've come here to lay complains about their funds being freezed when they want to withdraw their funds of  which is very bad. Like for me, once I'm registering on those kind of centralized platforms and after the registration I was not asked to provide my verification it turns me off immediately in using the platform because I wouldn't want to start going through the process of verification when I want to make a withdrawal and in that process stories might occur.

That is one thing that must be in Mind than when you enter or wanting to play in crypto gambling  then KYC will be part of everything .

maybe in the starting there would be asked , they wont be checking for your details but when your account becomes questionable or at least winning more? then of course the security will be triggered and surely they will ask you for your details.

There is nothing wrong when the platform asks for KYC if needed, besides there is also a provision in their policy, if you don't want to share your KYC with them for government reasons it seems exaggerating. They will not share your KYC with anyone especially the government, they are also aware that doing so will destroy their policies as well, possibly just for account verification.

People is so exaggerated on stories about risk for providing their personal information and I think they are just over reacting on things they don't need to worry. Maybe they need to look for the reason first on why such things ask to them since this KYC will became normal since we are dealing money on the platform. And account verification normally happen so I guess OP is a total newbie that's why he posted nonsense thing about this casino.

The question is how much the OP is withdrawing that trigger the gambling platform to raise the alarm for him?

And I don't know if the OP is really a gambler or have experienced in sports betting that sometimes a gambling platform will ask for KYC when you withdraw as stated in their TOS. This is compliance to gambling and licensing bodies, because if they found out that they are violating it, worse case scenario is that the licnenses will be revoked and it will be hard for them to get a new one just to be able to stay online.

An experienced gambler will not ask this useless question, of course, they will ask KYC if they see some unusual activity in your account, that's already given in the majority of casinos I think he is guilty of something if you are innocent and you know things about casinos and KYC and how they work, you will not create a topic like this topic is out of anger because he is caught and wants to turn the table to Duelbits, his aggressive behavior and action is very obvious, he's not going to get support here.

And also if you are engaging in Online gambling but dont wanna go with KYC process then better to start gambling in real life casino because no matter how you dont wanna deal with KYC yet it will come eventually.
in the past I also have the same mentality but upon learning that almost every casino has this same cause of asking ? now I manage to understand that this is part of their security and their policy .

This simply mean you don't read very carefully before you create account on any gambling site. It was stated clearly concerning their Terms Of Service which means during your withdrawal they may ask for it or if they noticed any unusual activities from your account then KYC could be asked of. Basically Duelbit have gain many ratings from its user and i have heard of such scam accusation. Stop going about spreading force rumour about betting sites if you are being paid peanut to tarnished their reputation will not probably be a help to you.

If you not being told about gambling site, always keep in mind as a gambler or online user you would be asked for KYC anytime, any date and any moments so get ready with your kyc because i know next you come post another site again.

But he is a experienced gambler mate, check His post history and also his trust history and you will see that he is not new to this business.

and with his trust , it looks like he is use in bringing casino site down with making  cases here and there .

"Unusual activity" I already posted here 3 proofs of deposit/bet history/withdraw. Where you can see i deposit around 200 and bet in 2 matches. This is unusual activity?😂😂😂😂

Regulatory improvements will be reviewed from time to time to avoid AML and other suspicious activity, you really understand the purpose of KYC requirements not being the worst but for security policies and requirements on each gambling platform, but you have your own decision if you want to avoid KYC and I believe based on the latest regulations other casinos online will also add KYC requirements.

hey OP , it 's natural for a casino to ask for KYC , moreover KYC is only basic not in detail like an exchange , are you too lazy to read the rules before you enter a casino ?
this is the last time you make fud so that your reputation doesn't get worse

Probably because you created an account and deposit a money which came from a suspicious source, if you can provide with this one then maybe this can be a legit accusation but seriously, looking at your trust rating many will surely not believe on your story without any proof.

Duelbits is very popular in crypto gambling, they have an extensive promotions here in the forum and seriously they are paying thousand of money for their weekly promotions, so they will not ruin their reputation just for one gambler like you. If you have nothing to hide then fill out the KYC form and you can be good.

You have a lot of conflicts from different casino as I can see through your post history. My experience with Duelbits is great. In fact, I have some friends whom also played there as they have seen me playing on the site.
I had multiple withdrawals on my account. I also have some losses, however the win is greater. All these withdrawals are processed almost instantly the time I requested it. The only thing that takes few minutes is the blockchain to confirm the transaction. So for me, I think Duelbits is one of the most reputable casino on the industry.

Hello. You have done multiple withdrawals. Did they asked for you kyc?

You can laugh all you want but you can't deny the anti-cheat system of the top casinos in the market, this is actually your second complaint if another casino is asking you for a KYC you are traced with unusual activity so instead of filing a complaint here address your concern on these two casinos, the two complain you file backfires on your credibility I support the tag, it looks like you are not playing fair.

To win big itf tennis odds everyday is now called "not fair play"

An exchange or gambling site may ask for KYC during withdrawal. It is common when a user violates their rules. Most sites only ask for kyc when a user has money laundered by exceeding their withdrawal limit. Or when someone breaks the rules . It sounds like one of these happened to you so the site asked you to kyc .

the current gambling site algorithm (anti-cheat system) continues to progress, so accounts that have the potential to commit fraud will be immediately suspended or even banned by a gambling site that uses an anti-cheat system

Besides that, I'm not surprised when gambling sites require their users to make withdrawals following the KYC rules, because, in the TOS, they already include that. in the OP's case, duelbits were never at fault, just OP who didn't admit his guilt

Every gambling website has their respective TOS where you are free whether to abide or to choose another casino to your liking. Asking for KYC documents is something that is normal among gambling websites as this complies with the regulations and laws of their country if they want to continue their license operational.

You are claiming that Duelbits is asking KYC before you withdraw your funds. I think this is fairly common and I do not see a problem with this. Again, you are arguing against one of the most reputable and trusted gambling casino in the internet right now. From its years of operations, I have not seen a person complained of a problem that you are barking on- so I guess you are either a troll and/or someone who is blatantly ruining their reputation.

KYC can be asked not because you violate the rules, its just that the site is taking care the security of the platform since laundering can be a thing if they allow the gamblers to withdraw easily.

This is another accusation made by OP against another gambling site, how can we trust if there’s no given proof? This might be a propaganda to ruin the reputation of a good site, don’t believe on this and look at the trust rating of OP.

I’ve been to Duelbits for years now and I never experience problem with them, most probably this is just an accusation without any basis at all, if OP is serious about this one better for him to provide a proof or at least his conversation with the team with regards to this one. KYC can be asked if your account consist of big money, no one is safe for this because it is stated in their terms and conditions.

I think it isn't Duelbit that suspend his account but the bookmaker asked Duelbit to do so since I have read the same case on other casino regarding brandonlang issue.  His account is also under investigation and also needs to pass KYC in another casino.  I believe he is suspected of matched betting thus the need to provide identification.

I seen op profile feedback given by Yahoo. It looks like the op is trying to make a false accusation against DUELBITS. Although he has done similar deals with other casinos before.  The result of which we can understand by looking at the reason of negative trust in his profile. On the other hand I know DUELBITS as a good casino site. I don't think they treat their users unfairly.

A user like that doesn't have credibility towards his accusation against successful casino and I guess maybe this is another attack so that they can confuse people about the current state of example duelbits. This kind of attack will not really work because for sure the readers are now open minded toward right or wrong so accusations like this will just ignore if no basis to support his claims against duelbits and other more casino.

Probably a work from other gambling site to ruin the reputation of the best site and this has been the strategy of many by creating panic and accusation so the gambler will lose their trust with Duelbits.

I'm still waiting for the valid proof of OP but it looks like he's still busy accusing many gambling site and asking for a reason why he needs to provide KYC where it clearly stated in the terms of service. This is not the only site OP is trying to ruin, look at his history post and you'll see more trash accusation from him.

We have no proof of that, it's possible but it will backfire and that's happening now instead of getting support members are doubting him, he also has a bad record of creating FUD
The proof will not come he's like a boy who cries wolf, even if there comes a situation and time that he's telling the truth nobody will believe him his credibility is already questionable, it's better that he lock this thread to save his face.

A valid proof is required to report a site as a scam or anything bad. No report is effective without proper evidence. The op here just posted what he made up.  But did not post any kind of proof, any kind of screenshot.  By which his complaint may be valid. So I don't think his post has any value here

To be honest, he did posted some screenshots before, which you can find here:


and here:


Although I don't know how valid this evidence is because we don't have any communication from the casino side.

I showed the proof that i just did 2 deposits and couple of bets before want to withdraw and still people accusing of trying to scam or something like if i dont have a better thing to do😂I could understand this pirates wants to kyc me if i withdraw 10k lol but as you can see i only did 2 deposits and few bets lmao. Surely if i lost all balance i wouldnt recieve an email asking me for kyc before making another deposit , but obviuslt as i won they dont want to pay fkn pirates😂😂😂

It is usual practice in different organizations connected with cryptocurrencies. There is such moment in ToS that they can ask KYC any moment and they did it when you decided to withdraw it. May be it looks not fair but this is standard procedure for cryptocurrency casinos and exchanges.
PS. In my country even in offline bank sometimes asks for what purposes i want to withdraw my money.

You are right if any project in Islam if he says something like that then he has to say with proper proof here if he says here without giving proper proof it is scammer but no one will accept if he can give proper proof then it seems here that  They are responsible for the forum but I think one will take it against him here

You definitely don't read the ToS of any online casino you are playing. It's not duelbits' fault why you can't withdraw your money there. It doesn't matter how much you deposited or how many times you played, it is clearly stated below on the image that you need to complete first their KYC verification before doing any withdrawal.

If you are against of those rules, why do you keep gambling on many online casinos even if there is a high chance they could ask for your information.

https://i.imgur.com/yPY6QwA.png (https://duelbits.com/aml)

he is not a believer of KYC  mate , he might have read the TOS its just that duelbits does not ask for kyc in account creation .  but once they found your account has malicious activities then you will face question and will be asked like this.

and correct . if he is not fond of the rules then he must stop playing because there will always possibilities of asking kyc all these time.

This user is not just a none believer of KYC but he is also a problematic gambler for casino because there’s no way you can have the same KYC issue on different casino at the same time if he is just a normal player and playing in casino properly. This user is surely doing something shady on his account that’s why his account is alway being flag by the security department of different casino and ask him to provide KYC as standard procedure on handling this kind of case.

I’m he will get back his original deposit or profit he gain it in proper way but he might face some restrictions and limitations on his account if ever the team prove about there claim. The OP is not declaring what’s the real issue behind his case and just using the KYC as subject matter to divert the focus of viewers against casino KYC rather than the reason for getting it.

What is Islam  ??? do you mean scam by this word . please Watch your English while posting.  Otherwise your post will be deleted as a spam post

and with his tag? i believe that he is not worth believing though he had shown some proofs but that does not change the fact that he is used to attack casino with his own intention of breaking their reputation.
maybe this will be judgemental on our part but this is what we can find in his account.

He has a problem that he can`t stop playing now - he have money in the casino that he can`t withdraw. And he has to choose to leave this money or to follow the ToS and to KYC.
You`re right - his problem is that he didn`t read the ToS. I think that in this thread he just try to make Duelbits to allow him to withdraw money without KYC.

True but not likely gonna happened because his account violate the ToS that result for this KYC verification. His only way to get out of this trouble is to KYC and face the consequences of what he did or just leave the money in the casino. I doubt that this only involves about the amount of his balance because I knew a lot of whale player on Duelbits that still not KYC verified until now.

It is possible, but i can`t say that this is truth with my guarantee. I saw some gamblers that don`t want KYC and they have no any problem with it. They just sure that KYC is awful and don`t want it.
I don`t know what is the real problem the OP has but it doesn`t matter - there is ToS and he agreed with it, so he has to obey it.

Actually, it is highly unlikely that he will be able to do much with his account if he will not comply with the KYC procedure. We cannot know why the OP has been requested for KYC but the possibility of him violating their TOS very likely.

Yes, there's a lot of high rollers out there that has not been requested for KYC mainly because they have not violated any of the TOS of Duelbits.

We don't have all the facts, so I don't think we can judge this specific situation, having in mind that OP has a red tag from one of the reputable members! And what I don't like is when someone starts throwing accusations without a single proof...

KYC can be asked for all sorts of reasons, we don't need to violate ToS to be asked for verification! Simple moving funds too fast you touch the AML policy and you can be asked for KYC! Anyway, it's not a big deal if someone is honest!

It may be because you didn't read the rules that is why you are requested to complete KYC before you can withdraw. It could also mean that you violated their terms and conditions that is why you are asked to complete KYC. If you are not sure then contact their customer support about why you are asked to complete the KYC. You can compare duelbits to other gambling sites where many of it are asking for KYC already just for creating an account only.

It's possible that he has made a mistake/violated part of the TOS so some accounts have to verify KYC early due to his alleged abuse or suspected account, but whatever the speculation of the main cause we should review the TOS again because he should have completed the KYC before making any withdrawals.

Obviously OP is just trolling here and don’t really have no problem with the site because he can’t give any proof for this and he has been accusing many sites already. KYC can always be ask and it’s stated very clear in all casinos because the casinos also want to protect their own interest and if they let those gamblers to withdraw big money easily then casinos might face bigger problem later on. KYC is still an issue here but eventually gamblers will get used to that especially if there’s a big money involve.

Actually KYC is not really an issue since by now this is normal thing to happen especially when a user try to withdraw a huge amount then a KYC procedure may ask for verification process or even if you have violation then casino ask this for also sort of verification so theres no really a big deal on this issue maybe op is just exaggerated about this that's why he post this out of his confusion towards the happening on his account.

^That is why as a gambler, don't forget to read the ToS very carefully and understand their terms.
It was stated there, (We may ask for additional Information according to our AML/KYC Policy for KYC purposes or for legal purposes (Money laundering prevention)., https://duelbits.com/tos .
Sometimes people rush to gamble without knowing the terms, and once they violated the terms they act like a victim and call the casino it scam while it is clear that it is their fault.

I am just tired of everybody repeating the same statement over and over again for a thousand times that O.P was too lazy to read all the rules before registering for a casino. But to be frankly speaking, how many gamblers this day read the entire "Terms and conditions" of a casino before registering an account? Because I'm sure only 1% or 2% or even non does that. I guess what O.P did was that he  refuse to check for the most required features needed for his choice of casino before, "No KYC" before proceeding to fund and play, and later when trying to withdraw, came to find out that he needed KYC, which he never opted for.
Which is a lesson to any one trying to gamble, to check if a casino has your taste of features before proceeding

LOL

Why you're just the same like the other users who suggest to check the TOS of the casino? your post doesn't have any point. If most people doesn't read the whole TOS before playing, then no one should blame the casino. It's shame to see @OP here complaining the casino which doesn't wrong at all.

Then what do you think about the solution? if any casinos start asking the KYC in the beginning of sign up new accounts, obviously many people wouldn't want to play since the other casinos are offering "mandatory KYC"

I don't think that All Casinos required kyc only for mistake or violate the rules. Sometimes money laundering is done by these gambling websites, I have come across many casinos that require KYC to avoid money laundering when withdrawing large amounts of funds. So All investors should read the rules carefully before investing.

My question is are you kyc there and having problems with withdrawals?
I think you didn't read their rules properly. because as far as I know almost all online casinos apply KYC but not to steal identity, just to confirm that you really exist.

They do that to know the person that has sent some huge funds into their casino without playing and then wants to withdraw. That's the cause of the sudden questioning and requirement of these casinos for KYC.

No casino today is kyc-free and all of them has to comply to the rule of the country that they're found.

It's part of the rule of the government that they want to secure the funds coming in to them and that's why when there's a sudden transaction that deposited and then eventually wants to cash out without any activity, that's where they flag a kyc to that user.

Nowadays no one reads the rules and the general terms and conditions extensively. The only thing that still seems to be read is which countries are excluded from participating in playing on the site. I think every user should be aware that in principle all casinos are allowed and able to perform a KCY regardless of the time. I also don't think it is mandatory for a casino to do a KYC before a player deposits money. A casino may also decide to do the KYC later, even after several weeks. Depends probably on gambling behavior and payouts requested.

This is the common practice and if there’s a changes, gamblers will notify right away. Probably, because of long details gamblers didn’t make any time to understand the terms and conditions as long as they are allowed to create an account without having any KYC, and this is why many are not aware about this. If Duelbits freeze your account and ask for a KYC, there’s a reason behind it and the only way to solve that problem is to cooperate.

^ We should read the ToS because there are some casinos that they use their ToS as a trap to the users and they are happy with that, imagine they can seize your money anytime. They will not process your withdrawal since you are not a fully verified user or with this ToS, they will selectively scam people knowing the case is just because the player did know about the violation process.
This is not new, every platform now that is related to finance was have that KYC process and probably to push this money laundering law. So get ready with the KYC.

It is not an excuse not to read the terms and conditions, even if its long paragraph you still need to understand it because it will be your guide on the site and by this you can know what to do and not to do, have some time for this because it’s also important. Duelbits is a reputable gambling site, it will not allow gamblers to gamble using the funds that might came from a bad source, that’s why KYC is being asked here.

Or Duelbits just wanted to make sure that they are not using the platform to wash away dirty money. That's why when you deposit, you will have at least to play some. But yes, it is structured in every casino's TOS that they might ask for KYC for further verification.

This is the market that we live in, and I would say that the media put a lot of bad rep for us and that's why this KYC became a mandate, including for gambling platform, it is unfortunate but we have to follow it, rules is rules.

We should b ready that centralized platforms can ask for KYC anytime and Duelbits had already stated this in the terms that they can demand for KYC anytime. Most of the gambling sites have the same policy about KYC and hence OP should stop playing gambling if he is too much curious about KYC. There are not a lot of gambling options without KYC unless you want to take risks with new gambling sites which may turn out to be an altogether scam.

The standard practice is to ask KYC before first withdrawal. I had to KYC several times with this reason. Honestly, i don`t remember any casino or exchange, that asked me KYC in other situations. May be someone can withdraw without KYC but i didn`t. The same situation has the OP but he want to withdraw his money without KYC. I don`t think that Duelbits will change their opinion due to this thread, so i think that you`re right - the OP has to KYC or to forget about his money.

AMLC become more strict now about KYC regulation unlike back in the days that only huge withdrawals are required to comply to it.

If a new gambling platform attracts a user by some huge bonuses and claims to not require KYC then it is definitely a scam. You won't be able to withdraw your money there if you manage to win some. They will just freeze or disable your account without any reason.

From the OP character he is just a troll and does not have any effect on causing negative things to Duelbits. Just because you don't like KYC doesn't mean you have to brag and ban others too. Does that sound like a kid who lost playing baseball on the field and then told his other friends not to play on that spot too?

If the thing you don't like is KYC, then some of the requirements are many for you to skip at our casino. Despite the dislike, I emphasize that reducing gamblers like you is one form of hope for eliminating disease.

If this is true, I don’t believe that Duelbits won’t make prior announcement about asking KYC. It’s a reputable, safe and licensed casino so it won’t never create things that will ruin its own reputation. Or is it you OP that has a hidden agenda on this, and you are just trying to convince particularly newbies who easily believe in lies without DYOR first.

Most casinos take this kind of measure to protect the site from abusers and money launderers that is why casinos ask for KYC when making big withdrawals and the limit is mostly set at 5k and above withdrawal. Duelbit is a well know gambling operator around the forum and it will be hard for us to believe some kind of accusation of scam against the casino.

Actually there is nothing wrong with the Duelbit casino platform but Op didn't check the TOS first so he doesn't accept if the user needs KYC before withdrawal, I know he is very anti KYC so he will complain and ask for solutions in various threads or gambling groups because he doesn't agree with casino TOS requiring KYC verification. IMO

I know that duelbits is one of the highly trusted casinos and I agree that it's the player's responsibility to read the service's To before using it but, to be honest, I've always been against asking for kyc only when the customer requests a withdrawal. It would be better to ask it from the start when the user creates an account or at least be as clear as possible when it will be requested (such as: if you're going to deposit/withdraw more than $xx, you'll need to verify your identity).

Casinos know that if they asked for this information upfront a great deal of players will not bother to use their services and they will move to another casino that does not behave in that way, however I agree that I would like for the policies regarding KYC to be as clear as possible, I think casinos keep this information hidden so scammers do not abuse their policies, and while I can understand that it is also very troublesome that many players that are honest and which only want to have some fun have to reveal their personal information because they triggered the internal systems of the casino, without knowing what they did wrong for them to receive this treatment.

It is so. This is the OP mistake and there are several ways that he can choose. I don`t see a big problem to KYC and if the OP tells us truth he can solve all his problems in 1 or 2 days.
I have just one moment that can help to exclude such situations. Do KYC when the gambler just registering in casino. But this is decision of the casino and if doesn`t mean that the OP can get his deposit without KYC.

Most provably that is since many hate KYC especially if the casino ask didn't have reputation yet. But in case of duelbits or other reputable casino asking KYC after suspicious activity found or having huge withdrawal and this made for verification is quite decent so I guess there's no problem with it especially if they verify your identity since this is somehow part of security measure to avoid unwanted incidents.

Indeed the method offered by the Duelbits gambling site, user registration does not have to do KYC verification, you can immediately deposit and withdraw, just review the Cashier area and then you just click Withdraw, obviously a withdrawal option will appear and you can immediately make withdrawals with various types of crypto, I am also one of the users who make sports bets on the Duelbits site, so far there have been no problems or kyc verification.

Seeing your topic this seems strange to me, Duelbits withdrawal procedure as far as I know is not complicated and fast, what you are saying here, of course we have never experienced it.

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If this is your problem.


Of course the Duelbits team knows more about the origin of the problem, because you are required to do KYC, it could be that they detected several IPs and several other accounts that registered on the Duelbits site, but if you really don't feel guilty, just do it Kyc, maybe it will solve your problem.

I agree with the first part and I totally understand why most casinos do not enforce kyc on registration as this will result in them losing many of potential customers. But the reason you mentioned isn't reasonable and some may even consider it unethical since a good service provider has to as clear and transparent as possible with its customers when it comes to their policies.

While I think in a similar way, private businesses keep a great deal of their internal procedures a secret from the public and it is their right to do so, a casino may decide to be completely open about the reasons behind their KYC requests but another one may decide it is disadvantageous for them to be that clear as scammers are experts at finding flaws in any system and take advantage of it, so they prefer to keep some of those guidelines a secret to catch scammers and accounts with suspicious behaviors with their guard low, and at the end we are the ones that need to decide with which casino we feel more comfortable and we will use to gamble.

This has been their business strategy for some of these sportsbookers this recent years and it a wrong way of doing business in my humble opinion, this could as well turn off some of their customers from using the platform, after facing some delayance before withdrawing their funds as a result of trying to pass the KYC verification process and even some will end up not getting their funds after the whole process, this reason is base upon several complains here which I have came across regarding this very issues.
Lastly this could be troublesome for some customer that do not have means of identification,like in my country getting original copy
( plastic card) of your nation identity card is a big deal, so imagine someone coming from this side of the country that finds himself/herself in this kind of situation, that means he/she might end up not being able to get his funds. The bottom line is that, However they should make it clear and known to customer coming to use their platform in the first place , while the decision would be left for customer whether to use their platform or not.

Speaking of money he wanted to withdraw, it was big money so maybe it was only natural that Duelbits asked him to KYC. If he's innocent and violates their TOS, he shouldn't have any problem with KYC because we already know that every casino will ask their users for KYC one day. There may be other things that are the real problem so Duelbits needs to check your account and identity. So it's up to him whether he wants to do KYC or just let it all go.

the strange thing in my opinion is, many crypto gambling sites currently do not enforce KYC at the time of registration but when WD they do it, it is clear that users are like being deceived by their tricks, I have never used gambling sites that require KYC, there are many sites gambling that does not apply KYC and respects user privacy.

Some people miss the TOS information because they don't pay attention to the KYC rules will be asked at any time, although the regulations on KYC are not specifically explained but each user must prepare KYC documents if the gambling platform will ask you to complete to open withdrawal access, so some users will leave the casino because privacy factor but I'm sure they will verify KYC if they have balance from slot winnings.

Most of the casino TOS has a vague description about requiring KYC which always result to complaints like this when the user win a significant amount. This is sometimes a trick to user because they knew that not all gamblers is reading the TOS and they can use it to possibly block the withdrawals of user that don’t want to risk privacy over the money.

You’re right that gambler should have that kind of mindset when playing in the casino because that’s really what the TOS implying by giving uncertain terms. The only problem was gambler is not aware on it because they ignore the read the TOS. This will fall on ignorance of the law excuses no one.

Well, sometimes the users don't read the TOS before registering in a new sportsbook, and this is a terrible mistake because sonetimes they ban certain countries, IPs, limits, behaviours... of course, you won't have problems when making deposits, but withdrawals are different: this is a part of their business model.

But some other times you read the TOS and it doesn't say anything about KYC, but there is an statement which says: we can change these TOS at our sole discretion... so one day they make it mandatory without your knowledge.

When you do consider yourself as a heavy gambler or some sort of being whale then better to mind off yourself on screenshotting the terms and conditions so that whenever there are some sudden block
of withdrawal and you are sure that you havent done something then you would really be that confident and if in case there are some alterations in terms and conditions that they had then you could
always show off that proof and thats actually a shady act by the casino. Most of the platforms that we do have today are licensed which means they do always have the right to ask out for
some KYc if they would see something off with your playing activity or shady acts.

^ That is a problem for most gamblers, they skip reading the ToS because it is a long paragraph to read.
If you are hurry to open the site FaQ sometimes will immediately enlighten you on the rules and regulations that we should be avoided to violate the ToS.
In my case, you know that this gambling casino will require KYC so meaning to say it is expected that they will enforce you to have a KYC when there is big cash out, I will not hesitate to submit my KYC because I was not hide something and duelbits casino is trusted casino.

The truth is if you are leaving in the US most casinos ask for your id at the point of registration, and unless a player has some things to hide such as the motive to cheat the casino if not I don't see any problem giving out yoh document for verification. When you want to register an account at a casino always make sure to read the terms&conditions of the casino.

This is always included in the terms and conditions that KYC can ask later on to protect the interest of the site and of course to know if you are really quality to use Duelbits. Well, I don’t know if this case is solve already but I think OP is just really trying to ruin the reputation of the site, blaming the site for not reading the terms and conditions is not good at all, KYC can always be asked so be prepared if you are a gambler and don’t want to fill out any KYC form, you have to leave right away.

Exactly and I don't know why the member is complaining about KYC if you don't have anything to hide and you have not abused the bonus systems of the casino, if we don't go against a casino's terms and conditions then we don't need to be afraid of any KYC demand.

The fact that KYC means disclosing some of our important information then maybe some gamblers tend to refuse to do KYC. But this is the trend now, even the most reputable gambling casinos have already required KYC, so it’s up to us if we will still gamble on their sites or not. However, the OP might have misunderstood Duelbits rules and policies and so he is not in favor in it. But for most of the gamblers here, even myself, I find Duelbits just fine to gamble.

We all know by simple inspection that most sites sometimes require KYC in a withdrawal, this is something that should not take us by surprise, if at any time that happens it is because it is established in the regulations, and if so, many must be complied with. They know that it is also due to the licenses that they must do it, however when we take into account everything that has been said, what is handled in a casino is money, and in part the casinos must cover their backs with KYC, we do not know If the player's account is being hacked, on some occasions they have requested KYC from me in casinos and in Exchanges, I already see it as something normal, however I think it is a way for them to have control without anything going wrong


Well the fact that they want to divulge our data I can think of casinos that are relatively new, in our forum this casino has a good reputation and you can also guess that it receives advice from one of the best campaign managers, and that for me is a sufficient guarantee as to trust this casino, as much as to provide KYC, however I respect the position of every member who does not want or accept KYC under any circumstances, but to tell the truth, not only in this casino, but in the majority that they are highly reputable and always require KYC and that is something that would be very difficult to avoid.

For every gambling platform asking kyc is not a bad things, it is their rules and policy where the players or gamblers
should abide it. Especially if the platform is legitimate in this business industry. Although, I never try to play in the Duelbits,
but according to my research it is one of the legit gambling platform here in the cryptocurrency.

Moreover, I think you have a also a bad history and record in spreading FUD about the casino platform
according to your negative trust in which was given by Sir@yahoo where one of the reputable Bounty Managers
here in the forum.

Obviously Duelbits is a great casino to play at, but which casino does not require KYC and is trustworthy? which one? If along the way you may run into a casino that says that they do not have or require the KYC, but that they can ask for the KYC when it is to withdraw, and it may happen that when they comply with the KYC they do not approve it and do not give the money.

In Duelbits things are more transparent, the KYC is soft, it is not as aggressive as in other sites, if a person has problems with the KYC it is because they must send it properly, be as sincere as possible, if there is this type of care, no there must be some problem.

When a casino determines that there are problems in the KYC it is because there is something strange and that is what they let you know.

KYC is most of the time required if there's something suspicious happening with your account like making a deposit and immediately withdrawing by that most of the time ask for the KYC of the users to make sure they are not a bot, but based on the reputation tag with your account you become known in playing gambling casino without reading their terms and condition at the same time their FaQs before playing i guess it is your mistake. Duelbits here are one of the known reputable gambling platforms and I guess why not contact them with your issue.

That is why there are terms and conditions at the start and if you agree with it, then there’s no reason to question the casino later on because it was already assumed that you have understood already in the first place. And when it comes to KYC, it’s already happening in most of the reliable casinos so always expect that if you wish to withdraw your funds. Otherwise, OP is just being unrealistic and definitely just ruining the good  reputation of the casino.

Yes, in seo it is a strategy to attract more users, it is something normal, I do not blame them, but there is something that we all must understand, it is that for anything they will require that you have KYC, in any casino it is almost a rule to have it, you can play in a casino without KYC, but I am sure that at some point they will require KYC and there are some casinos that, in order to finish hooking, almost make a KYC mandatory when making a withdrawal of funds, because it practices the player it's meant to provide your details, because if you win, you don't want to leave your funds in the casino and yeah, that's something I've seen in some casinos, not all.


Well, we have to be aware of this type of thing, normally most of us do not read the terms and conditions when we register at a casino, we only register, deposit, take the bonus and that's it, sometimes the official registration makes everyone Let's stay in tune enjoying ourselves, but at the time of withdrawing money is when there are problems, some with the KYC, others that still do not meet the initial wager or conditions, for this the KYC is as they say, in almost all casinos they are applying this regulation, KYC must be done in order to have access to all the benefits of the casino, this is almost a general regulation for everyone, we have witnessed that this type of discussion is more focused on the Reputation part and this means that it can generate more debate, but in general terms, KYC is something that we should get used to because that is how most platforms will be.

Most likely this is just another misinterpretation by the gambler itself to the rule of the casino. I know how reputable duelbits is so somehow, i won't agree with what OP says. As a gambler, i know KYC can be somewhat annoying but this is not new to us anymore as most of the reputable casinos these days always require KYC once you decide to withraw your funds.

I used to be a player who didn't even read the terms and conditions at the casino registration, it just didn't stop him, he gave him accept and that's it, but when there are casinos in particular that say NO KYC, if I stop to read, although it is a bit tedious I rule out two things, the first is the lack of a specific license, which is always what causes them not to ask for KYC. The other thing I rule out is that when withdrawing the money they do not ask for KYC, because there are people who are usually very sensitive about this part, they deposit play and want to withdraw, and they cannot do so until they pass a KYC, for these things they are able to open a thread in Reputation and with all reason, it is understandable.

The problem with OP is that he/she does not care about the policy and T&C of the casino. What OP wants to get is the money won. I am also now curious why he/she is so unhappy to pass KYC. I am assuming that the won amount might have gotten by using some tactics which might violate the policy of the casino. This has to stop! Creating such a topic without any evidence should be deleted by the moderators.

What else can I tell you besides the negative trust given to you by Sir @yahoo, although I have not tried to play on duelbits, I have been seeing this campaign running well here on the forum for a long time under the supervision of one of the respected bounty manager Sir @Hampuz, this campaign has been running here for 2 years, and you seem to be the only one who has complained about it?

we gamblers who like to gamble in crypto, we must know our obligation before we enter crypto gambling, asking us for KYC of crypto gambling is the right of the owner of the gambling to the gamblers. That's why it looks like you ignored it and didn't follow it, but now you're doing something bad about duelbits because you feel cheated and tricked by duelbits.

I hope that before you take such a step, you first think about what the return of what you are doing will be. I hope this will also be a lesson for you.

And now you changed and read every TOS you came across with? That's great. Sometimes all what we need is time because once we have it, we will take things slowly and we will read even the long text that are written in every casino's TOS.

I like that part where you double check things like checking if the casino has no license right after they claim that they don't require a KYC because if they have it then there is a big chance that they are only lying but will require their users a KYC later on. If ever they did that then yeah it's appropriate to make a thread on here and file a complaint about it so that the casino will get flagged and users are going to be aware of it.

KYC is part of the process. I'm sure things are written about that in the terms and conditions. You better not make so much trouble about that. What's wrong with just joining the KYC requirements? I think every gambler these days is well aware that a KYC is more or less required on certain activities on a gambling site. I also think that the site is fully within its rights. It can be annoying, but of course everything is always stated in the general terms and conditions. Once the KYC has been submitted, the site will proceed to pay out I presume.

not all people feel comfortable handing documents to strangers on the internet, did you know that they can take your documents and commit crimes and you are guilty of crimes you didn't commit and it's all because of someone from the anonymous site where you did KYC and Did he sell your documents to a criminal? This KYC issue is a very serious matter where customers do not have any guarantees that they are delivering documents to trusted people and that they are not anonymous so there is some government that inspects that documents that people deliver are being well guarded. Another issue also has to do with the proof of residence document, not all people can have these documents because they may be living in the house of parents, uncles, and other relatives and in KYC the person needs to deliver proof of residence document on behalf of the person who created the account. By this I mean that not all people who oppose KYC are because they committed acts that break TOS


he's expressing a concern, not a scam accusation per se, so I don't see any reason to delete his thread.

Sometimes we have to review every terms and conditions because they have been changed/added without our knowledge, for example previously no casino asked for KYC verification before the casino complied with regulatory authorities, but after the new rules were implemented there was no announcement to the community before gamblers knew about it during withdrawal.

Regarding reports on reputation, certainty must be considered first because if only KYC issues cannot be disputed because they are bound by regulations with authorities, so ready or not then you have to accept the consequences for KYC requests in the future, because of the risk of joining a centralized casino.

Yes, they can do that and there is also the risk of their database getting hacked and your personal information/documents getting leaked all over the Internet. But why would you send your documents to an anonymous company in first place! You should pass kyc only on trusted casinos with good security measures. You are going to send your money after all, so à minimum of trust is needed.

Any reputable casino, or business in general, will notify its customers about any change in their ToS before those changes take effect (usually no less than a week).

Well, this is something that nobody likes, complying with a KYC is synonymous with something that always slows us down, either because we don't like to give out the data, because of the problem that we don't want leaked data or things that happen with our data, but as many have said, privacy and anonymity is a right but in these times that will end, and one of the things that casino sites can do everything legal is to require KYC to be able to have legality and authenticity due to that many licenses require it, and the most important thing for a site is to have everything within the framework of the law, and although KYC does not guarantee security, they are the protocols that must currently be followed in all casinos.

Is it not possible to use decentralized betting platforms to avoid blocking and verification? In my opinion, in our progressive time, this is the best option

for me KYC in gambling when needed i think is fine. meaning if a gambler enters on a gambling platform without KYC and after getting a big win he wants to withdraw all his money and is required by KYC to verify if he is not a robot or a criminal being manipulated in gambling.
well, it's really not recommended for KYC on gambling platforms or a gambler also almost doesn't want KYC on gambling platforms because of the risk when stored data will leak. but if you don't do anything during KYC the winnings cannot be withdrawn because each gambling platform has its own policy. i myself will always take risks because life is full of risks. choose to risk victory or not forever.
and i believe the gambling platform mentioned by the OP is a reputable platform that we can rely on for the security of our personal data

It is possible, but i don`t see any decentralized platform with the high quality services. The same time who want to create such platform for free, who would support it? If we`d pay someone - it willn`t be decentralized. If it will be decentralized - we lose the quality and support. I don`t think that it is possible to get free decentralized betting platform with the high quality now, may be several years later smth will change.

We should get used to casinos requesting KYC during big withdrawals since we are constantly being faced with such demands at some certain point.
The only way to avoid this is to play on a decentralized site only because most of the AML compliance platforms with a license will require some form of KYC if not at the beginning of your registration there will ask during the cause of your playing with them if you win an amount higher than $5,000 and you want to withdraw the whole amount, you may be asked to submit your ids.

I know that for the people that have been part of the market for a long time this is not something they like at all as they would like to keep using centralized services without having to identify themselves, but those days are over, the more this market grows the more attention it receives from the governments and the more they want to regulate it, so people need to get used to this and if they want to retain some level of privacy they have no other option but to use decentralized services.

So any updates from OP? I guess he relented and got his KYC verified?

Well it's like you say, everything is a risk, in the event that a person plays on a platform where they make profits, if they are required to have a KYC then they must do it, in my case if something like that happens to me in Duelbits I would not hesitate to put all the KYC that I can, however something that would bother me is that my KYC and for unimportant things tell me that I have to do it again, as happens in some Exchanges like Binance that for KYC are quite annoying, sometimes people It is difficult for them to get certain papers, and that is something that can sometimes bother them if they do not approve it, I prefer to do a KYC with video, identification with a name, something like that, that are not so radical.

KYC issues for me are mainly sought by governments and obviously by banks, it is a way of following up on what people want to pursue and do, this is something that is already normal for me, it does not seem strange to me that a government wants to have control of everything, obviously in casinos through licenses it is the easiest way to enter and obtain all kinds of information, this is something that is not very good, but that every player should know, it is not the fault of the casino, as this is something that slips out of the hands of any player who wants anonymity. In the case of some sites that always want to be without this, they will probably go to war with you because they require KYC.

to be honest, if I were given the choice to choose KYC on an exchange or on a gambling platform like Duelbits, I would prefer KYC on Duelbits. because actually for me bigger hacking vulnerability is on exchange compared to gambling platform.
but I still do KYC on the exchange because I need a bigger limit when I want to withdraw my assets on the exchange.
so like you said i get profit from gambling and i need it, so it's ok if i do KYC on some popular and reputable gambling platform like Duelbits.

Deal things according to your needs which it would really be just that common sense that you would or should need to comply if you are really that been asked with some kyc or verification yet considering these platforms are heavily regulated then its normal that they would really be abiding with the rules and laws which would be passed up to the users or players which there's no other choice but to deal with it or else
you would be experiencing some problems.It is really just that there are people who do really value up that much their privacy which i couldnt blame them but in order to have that smooth user experience then you
have no choice whether you do accept out these changes or not.Yes, it do really sucks because crypto is for decentralization but we do know that these platforms are centralized which means they are really that
having the tendency to impose such changes basing up on whats been mandated or been ordered to them.

without kyc you have opportunity to use decentralized exchanges btw we are using centralized to get no limit, and so many additional features,
i haven’t needed kyc in gambling site because i didn’t deposit big amount here,
i agree with you i have no problem if ask kyc in trusted gamble site.

Yes, in fact, when I enter a new casino and they ask me for KYC, I simply don't provide it, it seems to me that there is no need, I don't know if the casino will be successful in the near future or if it is simply a scam, even here in the forum they have done tricks to defraud players and that is something that we must be very careful about, a new casino is not the same as an old casino in terms of KYC, decentralized exchanges are a great option, although I cannot deny that decentralized casinos have something to do with them distrust, and decentralized exchanges at the time of having a problem, personalized attention is usually a little late on occasions.

Most of us prefer to keep our anonymity so we can gamble at ease, and don't have to worry incase there's a data breach since we didn't provide our personal details. However, nowadays it's already common requirement of a casino to their players if their platform is regulated. But we need to be careful on what platform we're going to provide our details, it should be reputable and already established so we already know their history and aware how trusted their platform. New casinos doesn't necessarily mean they're likely a scam that we need to avoid, it's just that they need to prove first that they can be trusted.

Soon our crypto casino Betcrypto.cr is going to be ready and no more KYC for anyone!

not believe it

Try to put that on your Own ANN Thread but it is good to hear that you are a new casino and yeah not asking for KYC , lets see once there is a need for big withdrawal or those who win with luck if you will still not implement this KYC thing.

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To OP, are you still not handling your funds? or already deal with the team? better to update this thread or lock it .

I think that it would be a lot more ethical for a casino to pre-warn about KYC being required instead of the user depositing, playing and getting a surprise when withdrawing. I don't believe in the practice of prompting for KYC after allowing the usage of the platform before hand. Even if it's a common thing, if it's not clearly stated or prompted prior to accepting a deposit, I don't think that it's acceptable.

That has happened to me, when I go to a casino and play, if I win and if I withdraw they ask me for a number of documents for the KYC. and it doesn't bother me much, what bothers me is that you have to wait a long time for them to verify the KYC and so they can process the withdrawal, when a casino has these things, it's good that they have a notice that when you are going to withdraw money, the KYC has to be approved to do this process much earlier and not at the time the money is needed, that is something they have to do, so as not to annoy the players, that is the only thing that bothers me, for the KYC not so much but the wait.

Based on my personal experience with this particular platform my withdrawal got delayed and later it was mentioned that we're supposed to make withdrawal request based on the cryptocurrency used for deposit. I made deposit in bitcoin and requested withdrawal in BNB. Later on making bitcoin withdrawal it got processed immediately. So, at times issues might arise and the support team is responsive to clarify the reason.

This is not true. Been using Duelbits for a long time and I’m always using XRP or Doge as currency for my deposit and withdraw on different currency but mostly in Bitcoin without encountering that same problem. Duelbits automatically convert balance to USD that only means any currency is allowed to use during the withdrawal process. Probably you choose a coin that has a maintenance on the network that cause the delay for your withdrawal but it should work in any currency withdrawal that different to the deposit currency in general.

They should just not convert all the currency in the wallet balance to USD if they will not allowed different currency  withdrawal at first place. This is a wrong misconception on how Duelbits work.

Hello,

Sure, beware, do not sign up for Duelbits if you don't want to go through the hassle of KYC (Know Your Customer) verification when trying to withdraw your funds. They allow you to create an account, deposit, and bet without any indication of KYC being required, but when it comes time to withdraw your funds, that's when they ask for it. It's important to be aware of the KYC policies of any platform you are using, before you deposit and play.

Greatings

I guess another user who does not read the terms and conditions also with the FaQs common problem with the people who just got attracted easily to the marketing strategy of the gambling casino I guess op makes a deposit with new account and get a good profit and immediately want to withdraw which can be suspicious activity tag for a new account. Its the players responsibility to read those needed information to prevent this kind of topic again.

We should have been ready with this KYC if we have been using the casino for a long time because now, it seems that KYC has become an important part of the casino that every gambler must comply with. So if every casino asks us to do KYC one day, we have to be ready and do it. But we also can move to other casinos that don't require KYC, so we don't have to get confused or bother dealing with KYC issues for our accounts. And it seems every casino has a minimum threshold that applies to its members who don't want to do KYC, so if you don't want to do KYC, you don't have to go over that limit. That's just my guess.

In fact, unlike other sportsbooks in the industry, apart from the typical T&Cs they have at least since September a full AML and KYC policy explained in their website, here (https://duelbits.com/aml).

In addition, they don't claim that they can make any changes in the T&Cs they want without prior notice, which is also quite typical in the industry. In this sense:


I get that many people don't like to read, or even when they do it they understand only what they want to understand. It is good that the OP warned about the KYC so people who don't want to go through that procedure can avoid it before making any deposit in Duelbits. But the way it is written (bold and capital letters) implies that Duelbits is doing something unfair, which IMO is not the case.

Not only being our own bank, but also depositing your cryptos in thirdparty services comes with responsibility. You do have to be aware of the T&Cs.

I don't understand why many of us are discouraging KYC when it's for your safety and the site. It validates the credibility and genuinity of the user and ensures safe transactions. Seriously I don't prefer any platform which doesn't have KYC Policies.

When ever you go once in a gambling it's very hard to say that this kind of situation will be okay, and of curse there are the rules and regulations about this, but Op I think he must very excited to withdraw his funds as we all know that once a new created account win a good amount then the owner will withdraw his money immediately then for sure the casino will take an action of this and before he can withdraw he must pass the KYC needed.

your casino is not even operating and you have already started making false promises, as far as I know all casinos that have a license in curacao cannot operate without asking their customers for KYC eventually, even if the casinos express their willingness not to ask for KYC to attract customers who like anonymity because everyone who entered the cryptocurrency market was because of high profits and anonymity, casinos are forced to have to respect the laws, you have no way to challenge the governments by not asking for KYC or you intend to operate an unlicensed casino that would be breaking the law?

Every licensed casino must respect the law, KYC requests have been required so every casino must comply with the standards that have been set and no casino goes out of regulation to prioritize user anonymity then the casino will get a reprimand or even the license will be revoked, unless the casino is not licensed and unregulated , but who cares for a list of unlicensed casinos that are very risky scam casinos.

We already have few casinos that are nog kyc compliance so for thst the player can gamble any amount without being asked for KYC verification, I think there is a few none kyc casinos here in the forum already and any one who cares to play there can easily fine the casino on this board.

Duelbits already have KYC mentioned in their terms and conditions so players who register on deulbits should be ready to KYC any time the casino request it from them.

I do not read anything strange or mysterious about this, Duelbits is a casino that has a very good reputation and is also very trusted by the members of the forum who are from DT, that is enough to trust, don't you think? casinos that are quite confident protect their players, Duelbits has set a great example about how a casino should be run and how it should be protected, almost all casinos will ask for the KYC requirement, at the beginning, during or when going to Withdrawing money, because this is a way to enforce the conditions imposed on them in order to run their business in all its legality, should not be surprised.

This is why its really that always recommendable that you should really read up sites terms and conditions most of the time,even though its a long pile of text which you do need to read up but it would really be

that relevant for you to read up so that you wouldnt really be end up on questioning on how the hell or whats happening on why they have done such thing.This is always been the most common reaction on why people get shocked on the time that they've been asked for some KYC without tending to look back on what they had agreed upon on the time that they do register out.

This it the main mistake on why people do ends up on being looked as a troll despite on getting some sympathy. lol

The KYC requirements imposed by casinos are due to regulatory oversight of the casino and to prevent illegal activities that are not in line with the regulations of the casino. And so far, casinos that ask their members to do KYC also don't impose too strict rules for them because many members from each casino haven't done KYC there. And I think the request to do KYC is not only applied to Duelbits but other casinos have also implemented it. So we don't need to be surprised by this and should have prepared it beforehand.

so far, several gambling platforms that exist on this forum and have a good reputation, on average, have KYC requirements and these must be complied with, because that is part of the conditions that must be carried out before withdrawing funds or betting on a particular platform.
there is no compulsion to choose a gambling platform that must comply with KYC requirements and can choose other online casinos that do not have KYC requirements but do not guarantee security and usually do not have a license.
and up to this point I've been fine on Duelbits

He is free to choose a casino for gambling activities if he chooses an unlicensed casino there are no rules for KYC, but the security protection factor will not be guaranteed because the status of the casino is illegal and prone to fraud, but duelbits and several other casinos are licensed casinos that must comply with legal regulations , so KYC verification is required for licensed casinos because your privacy data remains safe and will not be leaked, licensed casinos will be reviewed and runtime monitored, if any problem occurs it will be resolved immediately.

Terms and conditions reading it out would give out the whole picture whether they would be requiring KYC or not.It is a matter of reading it up or not but we know that there are sites who do really make out alterations of their terms and conditions on which it would really suck because there's no way that you could able to avoid out on submitting on whats been asked or required. Duelbits reputation is known into this
forum which we can say that they are legit, if they are asking it out for some KYC then you might trigger out their security which it someone pertains on your account
activity.

It is your own fault that you have not read the rules that allows them to impose KYC on any customer at any time for any reason. There are a lot of people who like to multi account these sites unfortunately and one of the only ways for them to stop such activity is to look for unique identity documents. It is slightly lame that they do not force it at the point of deposit but they are clearly trying to reduce the amount of obstacles in the way of betting. They should definitely allow you to return at least the deposited amount without KYC, but I can understand also why they don't.

The Duelbits has KYC is in the ToS, as long as i remember. I have just one moment that i don`t like, but this moment i see in the most part of the casino - they don`t ask KYC when you deposit money but ask when you decide to withdraw it. I can`t say that it is fair for gambler but this is written it ToS, so you have to accept with it.

the conclusion is that on any casino platform that offers about no KYC and will eventually be asked to complete KYC when wanting to withdraw large amounts as some cases have happened.
so I prefer to fill out KYC earlier than it will be a little complicated when withdrawing big wins.
in the case that the OP wrote he is actually like a gambler who prioritizes anonymity and does not like casinos that have conditions for KYC. but it could be because there is suspicious activity on the account.

We do know that if people would be asked out for some KYC on the time that they would be registering then it would really be the main reason for people or gamblers to flock away specially into those people who

are really that too mindful when it comes into their privacy on which on this way then its no different if we do really compare it out on fiat based casino or gambling platforms that we do know that they are asking it out on the time that you do make our some registering.This is why they would really be trying out to impose it out after registering and asking if ever they would be hitting huge big amount which do really sucks
or something that having some suspicious movement or activity on what you have done.For Duelbits then its a reputable site and they wont be making such act if they arent seeing something.

For those gamblers who are new to crypto casinos, they don't really know much about the information contained in each casino.
They should want to find out by reading some of the texts in the casino and reading all the information that has been provided by some of the users of this forum.
The big mistake for them is just looking and looking for promotions and bonuses in casinos without wanting to look for things that are more important or useful for themselves.
There are many lay gamblers who rely on asking questions without having to find out for themselves about the questions or information they want.

most of them neglect to read the terms before registering an account. that is the habit of fiat online gamblers. when they get a new site recommendation from their friends or based on advertisements on social media, especially if the casino holds a new event. they immediately created an account as quickly as possible and made a deposit. just to catch up on the running event.
many of the newbies ask questions even when they have a problem they can't solve. and they will surely regret it turns out that they broke the casino rules.

They can neglect reading but at least they can ask up a question. That wasn't totally bad in my opinion. Laziness doesn't only occur to fiat gamblers but it happens to all even to some of us who only plays at a crypto casino. This is wrong and needs to be corrected before something bad happens to our account or to our funds.

I can relate to what you have said about FOMO when there are gambling promotions but my only difference from the rest is that I try to read the terms and conditions of the promotion first before making any deposit so that I won't be screwed because you know, promotions are sometimes misleading. I remember they got me one time.

True that is the common mistake of us, players.  I admit that I am also one of those players that neglect to read the terms and conditions before registering and I believe that can result in awful mistakes.  Imagine if the casino has ill intention and includes a clause that all deposits are owned by the platform (just like what celsius do to defraud their client) there is no way we can go after our deposited amount.  we are just lucky that we registered in a casino that aims to do honest business.

When you see an infant casino making such a statement I always refer to them as incompetent inpatients and lacking the discipline to maintain a quiet profile in the space since there are already criticizing other casinos just to make their nonexistent platform loom good.
- A casino that does not have a site or ANN thread here in this forum, will lack the moral right to demand anything from the players such as KYC and others.

Basically, casinos have the right to ask their customers for KYC, this is written in the terms and conditions under their website, so if you don't want to do KYC, play fair, don't ever make multiple accounts, this will result in being detected by the casino, causing you to in law.
Well every casino has different rules but I'm sure most of the casinos on this forum don't require KYC to make withdrawals, it's just that the ones that are suspected are usually big wins, cheating, bonus abuse etc.

so we have started to understand that any casino that has a good reputation like Duelbits will definitely ask for KYC when withdrawing funds from there. actually it is not a big deal for gamblers as it has become commonplace in the world of crypto gambling.
whoever is here and has been a gambler for a long time, they certainly won't complain about casinos asking for KYC for withdrawals. because they already understand things like this, unlike gamblers who are new and prefer anonymity who always complain when they want to withdraw funds and are asked to fill out KYC.

Well, I believe we should not get the whole thing wrong, casinos don't just ask for kyc upon any amount the gambler wants to withdraw, at least, I have a casino I've played on several years now and they've never for ones ask me to pass kyc verification before they process my withdrawal, and this is because my withdrawal from this casino have never exceeded $100..

So what I am trying to point out here is that it all depends on how much you are withdrawing from the casino, they all have a limit that when the amount that the gambler is requesting to be withdrawn has crossed that limit, then the kyc verification algorithm will be triggered.

if you don't want to withdraw money without KYC you should play decentralized casino because it's safe and without KYC but if you play centralized casino you should follow the rules of the game as they also have rules you have to follow, I'm also not interested in giving KYC then from that I always avoid it let alone withdraw big money of course I will be asked to submit KYC

as I said in the initial reply that it all depends on our withdrawal amount. and when we want to withdraw a large amount of course every online casino will ask for KYC verification, that's natural.
to be honest i bet on this casino platform myself too and was never asked for KYC when i wanted to withdraw $179.
even though I was asked to fill out KYC, I will do it. because it is part of the conditions that must be obeyed.

Not every online casino should ask KYC for a certain amount of withdrawal but rather only those who have gambling license because it’s a requirement by AML policy that includes on the license agreement. Any casino that asking KYC without a gambling license is illegal because they don’t have any authority to handle KYC for themselves.

The amount of withdrawal is very crucial because AML policy stated that KYC is a must for a user that deposit and withdraw huge amount just to make sure he is not laundering money to evade tax. It’s important to know the real reason behind KYC so that you knew when to submit or not when a casino asks it.

You're right, there shouldn't be something new about requesting for KYC in other to perform some certain functions on a kyc casino, this is what any other casino under this same category could request for and being an experienced gambler I don't think this should be new anymore when seen, you're using a particular casino because you're good and ok with their terms of service and privacy conditions before completing your registration with them, you would rather comply to their rules and enjoy them because no amount of complaints can change their stand, you will rather make a change from your end as a gambler.

Yes of course, and I understand that part, but I have been in many casinos and somehow they always ask for KYC, that is something that was also adopted in the exchanges, I know it is annoying, especially for people who manage a lot of money and apart from that They are or that they are prohibited in their countries because it is very easy to use VPN or something to access and likewise they would not have problems with KYC, but I think that now the trend is always towards doing KYC, always identifying yourself, some sites did not ask for them They are already doing it, only some like freebitcoi.in are the ones that continue to maintain their policy through the years.


When we talk about decentralized systems, everything is very nice, and if it can give us certain advantages with anonymity and privacy, in which case we should see both cases with their pros and cons, why? Maybe everything decentralized gives us these benefits, but when we make a mistake and make a claim, the speed of obtaining good support is given by luck, while in a centralized platform they can do it faster and more objectively, and sometimes that has a lot of value, especially when it comes to money and that can cause despair in the person, because it is money, not everyone has the same patience when it comes to their money.

sorry I forgot to write down "every licensed casino"
Well, it's true that every licensed casino will eventually require KYC submissions when it comes to withdrawing large amounts of gambling winnings.
and we have to do it for compliance with applicable regulations and we don't have to complain about the KYC. because the ToS that has been determined is written in detail that the gambling party will ask for KYC at any time if needed and it's all because of the license agreement on the gambling.

for gambling reasons asking for KYC will usually include a clearly written explanation and we will usually find out what the reason is. and if that reason doesn't make sense maybe we don't need to do KYC.

Duelbits has a reputation that many casinos would like to have, when we see new casinos, they immediately start asking for KYC, that is, if we don't find a notice that tells us to deposit quickly and to do it anyway, we run into a verification requirement and for such verification the KYC is needed, however, sometimes we do not pay attention to it, but we play, we can make deposits and when we obtain profits, we do not like to make this type of requirement, it is normal, we want our money without Plus, then sometimes a casino asks for it at the beginning at the moment of almost registration as well as at withdrawal, don't be too surprised.

I agree, there are even groups of people branding licensed casino that do not ask for KYC shady.  So I also think it is normal for a licensed casino to ask their player KYC if it meets a certain withdrawal threshold that KYC is needed to verify if the person is not laundering money.  Some casino even ask for proof of income (higher level of KYC) if they see some suspicious activity in an account.

when it comes to casinos asking customers to do KYC and include proof of income like payslips etc, it's usually about withdrawing very large amounts.
like the case of gamblers who have experienced this and made threads on this forum, I still remember a little but it's been a very long time.
there is a lucky gambler he won several times at an online casino that is here and when he wants to withdraw his money from the platform he has to do level 2 KYC and provide proof of payslips and other important documents. but when the casino asked the gambler to provide all his personal data, the casino gave a plausible reason. so that gamblers don't worry about doing KYC and providing all the personal data needed to be checked by the casino team. and after that everything was fine and he was able to withdraw all the money from his winnings.
so no need to be afraid for KYC when we know the reason.

I have always said that licensed casinos provide some kind of security and some authenticity to a site, I have seen many of the users on new casino sites claim that they need some licenses to make the casino fully trustworthy, but then they forget that the acquisition of those licenses will require KYC.

These licenses come with a set of requirements that are very strict, some have quite radical KYC requirements, and that's one of the things that most players don't like, especially those with big amounts of money, and rightly, leaving data on a site is not entirely reliable, but I think that things are as they are..

Gamblers need to change the outlook they have of casinos, some time ago it was quite common to gamble at a casino and never been asked for your information regardless of the amount of money you won or you lost.

But this is not possible anymore especially when it comes to licensed casinos, casino owners have to follow the law and if this means asking for that information they will do it, fortunately this happens almost exclusively for those trying to withdraw high amounts of money, but it would not surprise me if on a few years this threshold was lowered and KYC requests became more common.

Exactly! I don't see a problem with KYC. The only thing that i think must be changed is that the casino must KYC the gambler during the registration. In such case he gambler see immediately that the casino has KYC, and he can choose to register or not. The same time the gambler wouldn`t be disappointed when he decide to withdraw money - he doesn`t need KYC and hasn`t any problem or delays with withdrawal.

I wonder how this thread is still active until right now, the @OP seems doesn't care anymore because he was online and don't want to reply anyone in this thread. Since many people already pointed out any licensed casino including Duelbits have mandatory KYC rule in their TOS and you need to agree with the whole Duelbits's TOS upon creating a new account. So it's the gambler mistake if they're don't want to get asked to submit KYC in the future.

The OP should concentrate on the thread reply to avoid of spam on the thread.Most of the licensed casinos had kyc as the mandatory one.Because they want to had the licensed people must be the kyc holders.So it won't be any scam attempt here.This includes the duelbits casino.As we know many of the gamblers concentrate on the duelbits for the good deal.Because the licensed casino mostly not a scammed one.For this most of the gamblers choose the licensed one for the safety of their money.

This thread is not moderated so only moderators can take action from this thread. The op might have left since the beginning of this month because it was flagged as a scam spreading FUD news on duelbits for not paying attention to casino rules and every licensed casino will ask KYC from gamblers, but I wonder because many cases of newbie accounts will be repeated in the future and they will complain again for the same case.

It is true that if a casino wants a high level of trust from gamblers they must have a license that is good enough to be guaranteed in terms of security, but on the other hand a good license definitely requires requirements in the form of KYC and the problem here is that many gamblers object to KYC so this problem it really is the casino's job to be able to crack it and find a way out.
A gambler is a difficult person to guess because they want a casino that can be relied upon and trusted in terms of security and other things, but they don't want to give KYC to a casino that has the category they want.

Some people found themselves in this unwanted KYC position because the gambling website failed to state the fact about KYC verification where every new user can easily read and know what they are going into, I believe they are doing this intentionally, they knew some people will stay away from their website because of KYC verification, but after they win some money they have to abide to get their money withdrawn, users will have no choice but to pass the KYC to get their money out.

It's true that many gamblers are staying away in casinos asking for kyc. The reason why it's important to read the rules first of the specific casino and clarify things before playing especially if you are too concern on kyc. If you're going to play in a regulated casino, expect that they will ask you to abide in the kyc verification sooner or later. Winning huge is one of the reason for them to ask this verification. Nevertheless as piebeyb mentioned, much better to play in decentralized casino to keep yourself out of this kyc thing if you don't like the idea of submitting your personal documents.

maybe you forgot something.
of the majority of gamblers are more concerned with his anonymity not to reveal his identity wherever he is and choose crypto casinos to gamble without involving identity.
so the most important thing is if gamblers really don't want to fill out KYC just to gamble it's better to choose a decentralized casino that doesn't require KYC to bet or withdraw money from the casino. and usually decentralized casinos do not require a license. so gamblers can choose this type of casino to hide their identity and keep gambling.

Before active or deposit on gambling cryptocurrency platform better read term of service and understand all detail rule from gambling platform, I am not Duelbit user and I don't know specific rule with OP problem face have warning early when creating account need to pass KYC later if want withdrawing fund.

Could be problem later with many gambler disagree with gambling platform acquired with KYC and does Duelbit added this rule later after OP getting profit or the KYC procedure for withdrawing have been rule in term of service from Duelbit. I think if KYC as document ID better upload it and never back any more if OP not really happy with KYC procedure on gambling platform.

There are some things which the casino can't spoonfeed so we are the ones that should look for those things. KYC details are usually located on the terms and condition page and TAC are visible before we click on that sign up button.

It's already up to you if you will read it or not but don't just blame the casino after, if you didn't and then the details are already put on there. I think some casino ann threads here in the forum, will clearly state if they require KYC or not. You can just read them instead if you don't like scanning their TAC page. Asking to their customer support or forum representative is also another alternative that you can do.

I can not deny the fact that some casinos lack professional conduct, the information on their Ann thread might say one thing while their terms of service is saying another thing entirely, their customer care might tell you that they don't ask kyc meanwhile their terms of service is saying kyc might be asked from the user if the casino suspects anything illegal or withdrawal of a specified amount and above.

I've seen a situation where the user asked the customer care of a casino if VPN was allowed on the casino, the customer care said yes, the gambler went ahead to use VPN, and he was blocked, and when he contacted customer care again, he was pointed to the terms of service where it was stated that the casino does not allow use of VPN from it's gamblers.

So what am I saying?
It is best to always confirm all information from the terms of service of the Casino, that is the only source where informations can not trusted and cant be easily edited.

Well, the OP could pay attention to the AML&KYC duelbits section, where it is explicitly stated that you need to pass KYC before it is time to withdraw funds, there is also a requirement to make a minimum percentage of the deposit before requesting a withdrawal, otherwise you will also have to pass KYC. So it is really necessary to familiarize yourself with the ToS before making deposits in an online casino.

The OP is known for creating such accusation against different casino without valid proof. Check his trust rating and you will now that he is just bullshitting Duelbits. Probably he violated the ToS of Duelbits that’s he was asked to do KYC because you can freely withdraw your withdrawal if you are playing normally.

Duelbits is operating without a major problem for so many years and issue with valid proof usually being solved properly by Duelbits. We should stop feeding trolls because our attention is really their main goal.

The negative post isn't necessary na, I believe every organization and cooperative has terms and conditions guiding them so you should rather ask that we ensure to go through T&C's to avoid complaint during withdrawal.
But I see nothing wrong with the KYC requirement.

Even decentralized casinos can still block a user account if they noticed any fowl play from the activities of the players, not only deulbits, there are many reasons why casino hand out restrictions to players and demanding for KYC and if the player takes the time to read the casino terms and conditions he will be aware of the fact that it is mentioned that, once your withdrawal exceed a certain amount you will be asked to verify your account.

People do always missed out these things on which reading up the terms and conditions which they would really be making out some complaints without even trying to look at on what they had violated or committed.
Duelbits had been long time running on this market on which they hadnt that much issue, if ever there is then they do resolved out it but its not really that shocking that there would be those fellas
who do really throw some accusations without any solid proofs or really just simply they had committed out some violation or simply didnt follow the terms and conditions.

That would be for the best for everyone involved but at the same time I do not see casinos being that open about asking for your personal information, and this is because if they did that then many gamblers for which their privacy is important will probably refuse to register at those casinos.

This would not be problematic if every single casino was doing the same thing, but I imagine there will always be some casinos unwilling to ask you to perform KYC on registration and they could get all of those clients, giving them a competitive advantage over the rest of the casinos.

I really don't know of the duelbit term of service but you must have to understand that these casinos are just doing their best to balance the requirements of the licensing bodies with the demands of the players and you can agree with me that it's not really easy and you shouldn't be doing this to a reputable casino like this very one.

Gamblers also have to try to understand that these casinos wouldn't have to ask you to do kyc if it was in their power but you should also know that they work under some jurisdiction and their activities aso have some limitations and the day I understood this fact, I had to start bearing with these casinos.

Indeed, there is nothing wrong with the rule of KYC as long as it is stated in the terms and conditions of their casino and also players cannot complain about this, but unfortunately many players never care about the terms and conditions and when they are confronted with KYC they get angry and if we are the type of people who are very against KYC, so paying close attention to each term and condition casino  will prevent us from doing KYC in the future because we know the certainty of KYC before playing.

Those kind of people that claim to be not treated fair because being asked KYC when withdrawing are players that mostly truly Guilty of being cheater or those newbie that does not check the T&C before playing in which i believe that majority of gambling site nowadays will seek KYC maybe not for the same time of playing but eventually will come.
next time it is best to use this as learning that all online casino will ask KYC maybe not for now but in the future.

But anyway they ask this information before withdrawal. The most part of the casino`s ToS has a clause like "We can KYC you any time" but, honestly, i`ve never seen any casino that allowed make some withdrawal without KYC. I mean that they ask KYC when you want to withdraw your money first time.
So i think that it must become a standard for all the casinos with KYC - ask KYC on the registration. But, of course, it is impossible.

Agreed, while using cryptocurrency accepted gambling platforms or fiat based ones it is must to go through the terms and conditions. As said maybe they don't request for KYC at the beginning, but we need to be ready for KYC if asked to avoid unwanted discussion. I've used Duelbits and never encountered any issue during withdrawal. Once had an issue and the support team solved it and never requested for the KYC. Maybe it might vary depending upon the amount of money involved.

it's pretty easy to understand everything, but sometimes beginners who just want to bet and make a profit don't read the terms and conditions that have been in effect for a long time at Duelbits.
for me KYC is not a big problem when one day you get a big win want to withdraw funds and be asked for KYC, no problem.

and a simpler understanding is if we bet in a licensed casino, I will do KYC at the beginning so that later when I get a big win I am not asked to KYC again.

And this is the biggest problem, if we take the time to read the terms of service of most casinos, even if some of them claim that they are never going to ask for KYC you will see that in fact they can ask for some documents proving your identity or even proof of funds whenever they want.

However it is rare that this is done during your first withdrawal, unless some sort of flag was raised by your account, as there are many of us which have gambled for a long time and that we have never needed to submit any kind of document to the casinos in which we gamble.

Yeah I find it strange since I have been playing for years in Duelbits and yet never that once being asked for KYC verification .

there seems to be Flag that the casino find out about His account since Duelbits required him for verification that I don't see fits to everyone of us who experienced playing in this site since day one.

or the system had it flow so there is a need for such and also I see no problem to comply since Duelbits is a legit and trustworthy site (for all who played and still playing now)

Yes, I understand very well that a gambler really wants to gamble anonymously without involving their identity. However, they will still look for and choose casinos without KYC.
Sorry mate, I forgot about that.
In fact, I didn't even think that there is a decentralized casino that doesn't require a license and requires KYC. Yes, maybe gamblers who don't like KYC can play there.
But personally, I will always be the same as my previous opinion, namely I will only use casinos that are trusted and have a license, even though I have to provide a KYC.

That is the most logical, when we enter a casino we do KYC with the intention of not going to do more, but it has happened to me that despite that they ask for a KYC again but with less intensity, perhaps a photo or a video of 3 seconds, something like that, and it has also happened to me in some exchanges, Binance is very common for something like this to happen, however we as players at the moment we agree to play in a casino must abide by its rules, just like a casino does not force us to play If we do not read the conditions, that is no longer the casino's fault, and it is logical, if we enter and win we want to withdraw, the casino must understand that this is a natural process.

Yeah, had this problem tooo... Where on earth do they find servers for those KYC bigdata... Tendency to KYC grows really intensively. Not actually to say the same about stability of services, I dont know if there is a reason to continue using crypto casino...

To be realistic, the adoption of KYC by casinos is expected to be widespread if we are talking about institutions that are supposed to be correctly registered. People do not like KYC, but like to feel they are depositing in a legit and trustworthy webpage.

Also, do not let a bad passing experience on a casino to make you forget the advantages crypto gambling has and the community behind it. The fact one can partake in this without having a credit card or a bank account is a big enough advantage. Bitcoin wallets do not provide credit, so one can wager debit only, making it a bit harder to get into debt because addiction.  :)

Etc etc.

@Hispo, I believe that casinos need to make KYC public and observable to all newcomers visiting gambling websites. My only problem is that they try to make it seem as if KYC is not required for anything. In the event that you win a lot of money, they will force you to pass KYC or lose your rewards, which is not a good way to handle a reputation-conscious business.

My reward would be to say goodbye forever to such gambling companies, since how they treat their customers is the most important aspect of their business.

I check the casino you promoted under your signature, during registration they're not asking any KYC even though based on their terms of service, they're asking KYC in order the user can use the service. Yeah nothing wrong with your statement because each user have their own opinion.

But I'm just waiting the day where you've changed your signature and then defending the casino which doesn't need to submit KYC in order to play ::)

There is something that is very important to highlight and that is that when they ask me for a KYC at a casino like Duelbits, Stake.com, bitcasino.io, among other casinos that have a very good reputation, I do not hesitate to give my KYC because they are very safe casinos.

The fact of looking for a casino without KYC and that is reliable is very difficult, there are a couple of platforms that are like this, now with respect to the current situation in the world, in any casino they can ask for KYC, for example, if you start operating in any Exchange, it is obvious that we have to give our KYC, so there is not so much problem there, but why? It's simple, they are safe sites, there is not that much of a problem, something similar happens with reliable and safe casinos.

There is one thing most of these rash gamblers don't understand which is that you can't eat your cake and have it back  hence you can't seek to play on a licensed casino and still expect to have a totally none KYC policy, no that's not done and any casino that promises you that, should be suspected to be a possible scam.

I also don't see any reason why people shy away from KYC especially on reputable casinos and just as a quoted user said and I also concor because I personally don't have any issues with doing kyc especially on reputable platform even from the registration stage rather than been hooked along the way.
People who intend to use a certain platform for ligitimate stuffs shouldn't shy away from KYC except their intentions aren't pure.

The user also need to be aware about this especially if they are trying to deposit or withdraw some huge amount of cash in the platform since this KYC will be ask by them. Gamblers should think the positive side about this since no one can withdraw easily your huge funds unless you sent your KYC details.



Hard to find reputable casino which didn't ask a KYC to their costumers and if there are casino offering this, those are the new casino in the market and its questionable if their reputation is good or if they can sustain a non KYC compliance in long term they are running.

Sure, the customers (gamblers) are the blood that keeps alive this industry and each one of those casinos. But in my opinion, any casino which is legally registered is expected to ask for KYC sooner or later, while signing up or during the first withdrawal.

Actually, that was a topic which has been discussed here before, and while it would be ideal for casinos just to ask for those documents during the registration of the account, I assume they would rather not to turn the process into a hassle for the newcomers, so they can register fast, deposit and gamble as soon as possible.

I think we both agree, though, on the fact that honesty and transparency can always be improved.

I've been gambling with duelbit for over a 5 months now and I've never had any single encounter or negativity from them and I also feel so bad that most of this accusations are coming from newbie accounts.
I also want to clear a notion that mkay of this casinos also have people who oversees all of their activities especially with their dealings with customers and finance and this is because they're are trying to ensure a provably fair cases between the casino and their players.
One thing I also understand is that, most of this casinos are trying to hard to balance the requirements of the licensing board with the demands of their customers and with regards to KYC with is mostly some to avoid money laundering and fraud is triggered after a certain amount of withdrawal.
This is one of the best way the casino van manage kyc requirements between customers and licensing board.

You have to be prepared for casino requests to do KYC because that's what has happened with the intervention of regulators that force casinos to ask their users for KYC.

To avoid that, you can look for casinos that are not too strict regarding KYC so you won't be asked to do KYC. Maybe he is committing fraud that the casino suspects or he is a new person at the casino who can finally win a lot of money or there are many other possibilities. But crypto casinos were much different now than a few years ago and nowadays, KYC has become a common thing that can happen in casinos. If you are not ready, you don't need to play gambling.

Yes if the casino where you are playing is regulated, then expect to be ask for kyc verification sooner or later. It's quite common now and often the issues of gamblers who are not prepared for it and still want to remain anonymous while playing.

I believe there's a certain reason on why they're asking for kyc when you didn't expect it (if you're not a whale gambler or not even win huge). So it's up to us if we'll comply or just switch for other casino without kyc. As you've said there's still casinos operating and not restrict about kyc or not implementing kyc at all.

I really mean tremendously tremendously think Duelbit is fantastic. I've used it for more than two months, and I can honestly say that I haven't had any problems at all. It's encouraging to see that the casino sector is taking action to guarantee the security and integrity of customer transactions, but Duelbit has already arrived. They've achieved an excellent balance between fulfilling the requests of their clients and the regulations of the licensing board. Trust me when I say that anyone looking for a trustworthy and secure online casino should strongly consider Duelbit.

they make accusations like that regarding KYC requests when they want to withdraw their money, surely the beginner registers an account but doesn't read the casino rules.
some gamblers do object to KYC. but I think it all just needs a reason. but for those who are already familiar with the site, it won't be a problem, which is indeed most casino sites and even crypto exchanges also ask for KYC.
if you don't want KYC, then leave and don't use the casino. they are free to choose their choice. therefore it is important to know everything before we deposit our money.

The problem with casinos that are decentralized, like an exchange, is when a problem occurs, when there is a problem, support can take a long time to address the problem, while in a casino that is private or centralized, the attention is immediate. and we all know that when we have a problem in the casino what we most want is for it to be resolved quickly, especially if it is a withdrawal of funds, that is something that despairs any player, because it is their money and that is what they should be a priority for any casino.

Duelbits has built a stable reputation on the forum for a few years now. And they are now also sponsor of a number of events in which there is considerable prize money to be earned. It also seems very unlikely to me that they won't pay out players unless you've broken the terms and conditions, but then that's entirely your own fault. It can of course be very frustrating if you have requested a payout and not received it, but a casino like Duelbits will always pay honest players properly.

If any casino is asking for KYC, it should be at the beginning of the registration or in the process of signing up the account in the platform but whereby they keep it for the end of withdrawal then people will suspect them the other way around. Asking KYC is good but they should ask the documents of the user on the beginning of the sign up so that when the person want to withdraw his funds then it will not be a problem for the user because he has already passed through the process.

I totally agree with your statement, gambling platforms must implement KYC request rules from the start when users create accounts and provide KYC information to obtain withdrawal services, so there is no bad perception of casinos requiring initial verification for withdrawals. But KYC-friendly gamblers don't need to think about KYC requests because the average casino asks for KYC for the verification process, of course only top and trusted casino platforms will be given KYC data.

But are you aware that not asking for KYC while signing up could be an advantage in the eyes of the casinos, aren't you?
For example. Let us assume that there are three casinos of good reputation and are properly registered, only one of them does not ask KYC during registration but rather when withdrawing earnings.

It is more likely people will end up registering in the casino which does not ask it right away than in the other two, because (again) it is a hassle to the user. Also, it is more likely a gambler who won money would summit their documents than someone who just want to try a new casino that was recommended to him.  ::)

Gambling platforms want people to see their advertisements, click on them, register and play. If the registration process is long and requires taking pictures to documents and oneself, then the chain breaks and the potential gambler leaves.  :P

So based on that fact, we must prepare the necessary documents to verify our account and continue playing at the casino we want. The best part is that by getting verification from the casino, we can be safer in playing and for the security of the documents we have sent casino will take care of it.

Right. We must determine where we want to play. And when the casino has changed unlike before, we have the right to move and not use the casino anymore because the casino has started implementing KYC which we don't like. I'm sure there are still less strict casinos when it comes to KYC, so we have to look again if we still want to play gambling as usual.

we have to see that when bitcoin was created, people were happy because they finally had privacy and anonymity, so they could play in casinos that accept payments in cryptocurrencies anonymously, without the need for KYC, this was an anonymous market and a market that attract people with a clear objective that they want anonymity, in most cases people anonymity is not to commit crimes, if we make a comparison between the total number of people who want anonymity and the people who want anonymity to commit crimes we will see that the number of criminals it's too small. in the real world to play in a casino the person will have to carry an ID, pay tax in case of victory, it may even have to appear in the newspapers and tv in case of victory, so it is an annoying process for some people

whereas playing at the online casino was supposed to be easy, where you bought bitcoin or altcoin from a friend, took it and deposited it at the casino and played, you wouldn't have a headache with KYC. but the situation has changed a lot, the person to buy bitcoin has to create an account on an exchange and do KYC (he will have to run the risk of being afraid of the exchange selling his data every day) and then he will deposit money in the case and he will have to run everyday risk is being afraid of the casino selling his data, our documents are something important, anyone will be worried about giving documents in an unknown place on the internet, the person is not sure how the documents are being kept and if one day the bankrupt casino where they will leave our documents.

The bears when it comes to KYC is quite complicated,I have always said it, the people who know that this is thanks to the demands of the governments make them even more angry,because those who have crypto should not leave their data under any circumstances or criteria in the sites, the data is left when it is under a fiat money system, which is totally controlled, but the word centralized or centralization is a double-edged sword,because security can be confused with kneeling before these demands, which What does it mean that if you give your information and it leaks, they can easily contact you and that is something very bad, because it can leak to a government, which can become very annoying,but if it leaks to thieves?easy to locate the person and steal it.

All choices are determined only by ourselves because by playing in a casino that can make us feel comfortable and happy, it will be easy for us to win.
If you really have to leave the old casino for convenience, then this must be done so that when playing we have a calm mind, that way we ourselves can avoid the emergence of emotions that can cause us to experience defeat or loss.
I know full well most gamblers want to remain anonymous but there aren't many good and trusted casinos out there that don't implement KYC.
Almost all of their big and trusted casinos implement KYC for each of their customers.
Maybe in the future, like it or not, we all have to provide KYC at every casino we use.

so therefore gamblers are very hesitant to involve their personal data in gambling for various reasons such as fear that the data will be hacked and sold to bad people or it could be because the government prohibits gambling and is afraid if the data is leaked causing a ban on these gamblers.

from this problem, we are really advised not to be too hasty to fill out KYC on any gambling site unless it is really needed, such as withdrawing big winnings.

     -   There is nothing wrong with creating an account at Duelbits as long as it has trust in the casino platform here in crypto gambling. Even if it leads to the withdrawal of the amount won and kyc's duelbits demand, it still has no problem as long as it has trust in the casino.

What you are doing is like you are defaming Duelbits through verbal or story making only, you are not showing any evidence that duelbits scammed you. Just now I saw someone complaining about this casino and it looks like it's still wrong.

As long as you don't cheat or violate casino rules, I think there's no problem doing KYC at duelbits, unless you want to withdraw funds from the results of cheating the casino and after being asked to KYC the customer refuses, of course he won't dare to give his personal data because he feels he has cheated the casino afraid if will be blacklisted from any casino.
Even though sending KYC at duelbits for me is fine, no problem and only takes a while to process.

I think nowadays you have to be prepared that every casino is able to request the KYC from a player. Aside from that, it's also in the Duelbits terms and conditions. I think they have been active on the site for about 3 years now and have built up a spotless reputation. You also see them more and more at certain sports events, which is a sign that it is a serious and rich company behind it, so you really don't have to worry about money. KYC can be confusing, but it is something inherent to registering with a gambling site.

This is a total heresy, it can't stand in any sane clime. Many of you are saying this because of the porosity of the internet, if every country should be up and doing in the fight against online fraud and illicit flows, I wonder how you would partake in online gambling without providing your personal details.

Personally, I can't work with any company that doesn't ask for KYC, and before giving any of them my data, I would ensure that they are duly registered and regulated.

People overemphasise the leakage of their data in gambling because money is involved, but they are freely and ignorantly giving it out elsewhere.

Even with all the implications of KYC, it still remains a necessity for playing in some casinos or using some services such as a centralized exchange.
kYC has become a major challenge that we have to face in the cryptocurrency industry, but then we have to come to terms with the regulator's policies, so the choice is left to the user to either choose to use KYC compliance services or look for fully decentralized casinos that don't ask for KYC 100%.

That's why we must prepare ourselves if almost all casinos implement KYC for all their customers in the future. And if that happens and we have trouble finding a casino that doesn't strictly implement KYC, maybe it's time for us to stop gambling until we can find another trusted casino that doesn't.

Or if we decide to keep playing even though the casino asks us to KYC, that's also okay because we choose it ourselves and there is no coercion from the casino. Some crypto gambling players still want to avoid casinos that ask for KYC and we are still lucky because there are still casinos that can do what we hope for. And so far, the casino hasn't asked us for KYC so we can still feel calm and comfortable playing there. And maybe casinos are still thinking long and hard about implementing KYC in their casinos because it will reduce the level of visits from their members.

Duelbits is the trusted website over a year,many gamblers using it for the long.Some websites had kyc free one and trusted too,but how to believe your website is trusted without kyc.This means you are to get the deposit of the gamblers and stole the funds after it reached maximum value.Why should you had red trust on your account,now it’s seems to doubtful one.

So it’s better to play gambling with kyc,because most of the gambling site with Kyc are trusted one.Learn some gambling techniques to earn some good money from it.Because luck based gambling will not win all the time.

My question is did you really take out your time to read the terms and conditions of the said casino before jumping into it? I guess no a d there are alot of things that wouldn't be flagged on the website if any casino and you're expected to get them from reading the terms and conditions and that's why it seems most casinos will always want you to read their terms and conditions.
I also don't see any reason why people run away from KYC when they have no evil intentions when using a casino.
Well the reasons should be best known to them but I also had to check the trust on your profile and you already got a red tag for just just post and I hope others other learn from this and take caution before laying any accusations.

Only person who do illegal actions will complain against them since if they can't provide their KYC details for verification then maybe they are hiding something. So far duelbits is well known reputable casino so I guess there's no problem provide what they ask if they want to verify something since its part of the process especially the funds ask to withdrawn is huge amount of money. Reading TOS can save their time if they just read the whole content.

We must always be ready if one day we are asked for KYC by the casino we use because that is the only way we can still gamble in crypto casinos.
In my country there are several local online casinos that use fiat but I don't trust them so it is impossible for me to use other casinos if the KYC policy is applied to all crypto casinos.
Quitting gambling is also not an option because after all the gambling industry has given me a lot of things until now so whatever happens in the future I will always follow the policies implemented by the casino even though it has to provide KYC.
I'm also sure that in the future when the casino implements KYC, they can guarantee the security of the personal identity that we provide.

It is an attitude of accepting the rules of the casino that we must have if we still want to use a casino that will ask us to do KYC. Maybe we have no choice but to look for other casinos that do not implement KYC in the future and we really have to get a trusted casino that can guarantee our data is in good hands.

If playing at a local casino using fiat, I'm just worried that one day my government will ask my bank about the use of money in my account and I don't want to get into trouble just because I gamble so much. That is why I still prefer crypto casinos for gambling and I think it is the right choice.

what is it that is too difficult for people to read rules, terms and conditions before engaging a particular thing. seems OP was not enlightened before going to play with the said casino otherwise OP would not have got involved OP had read through to know the term as state by the casino at least i could have aided to reduce this whole stress of payment and no payment.

Don't worry, friends, there will always be well-known and trusted casinos in the future, what's more, we can see more and more gamblers starting to be active in this gambling industry.
For now, there are also many large, trusted casinos with good reputations that we also use and if in the future they always provide the best for gamblers or customers, then I make sure they can last in the long term so that in the future we can still use them, so we don't you need to bother looking for another casino if indeed all casinos implement KYC.
Actually that's not what I'm afraid of about local casinos with fiat currency because here the government doesn't really interfere with our funds in the bank, but I'm even more afraid if I get a big win but they don't pay it to me because there are lots of cases like that at the local casino of the country where I live.

No one will want to read every sites' terms because it's time wasting and it will raise a lot questions since you will find many rules are put any disadvantage on the customer's side. Some people only read the terms since they've learn from their past mistake, example for @OP where he don't want to submit KYC, so he need to avoid KYC casino. Next time he can check about KYC rule in the terms, but he might encounter other problem since he haven't experienced it before.

OP if I may ask you this question, did you make out time to read the policies of the casino you registered with before depositing and playing to win? If you had done that I think you would not have complained in this manner because it would have been clear to you for what you are signing up for and another thing that warrants this actions from casino is a possible change in up address of account holder and I ask again did you use VPN to login your account or you did use it to register your account because that happens, there is a possibility that the account holder is registered from a prohibited nation and hence based in their assumption to get things clear, they request that you do a kyc to verify your identity before you make any withdrawal. So OP I think you should be plain with your complaints if truly you have nothing to hide.

Actually there are several complaints that have arisen about duelbits and there are valid complaints because they are accompanied by evidence, but what's good about duelbits casino is that they can resolve every valid complaint that appears properly and it's well received by users, but Op he's just a player who was disappointed with the problem he was facing so that it appeared to create this thread to express his disappointment because he was required to do KYC based on the title of this thread, if he is a player who understands how casinos work then he will know exactly when playing at a licensed casino there will be a time when finally he has to do KYC and what duelbits do is to comply with the terms of the license under which their casino is registered.

It is actually a big mistake for gamblers who don't want to read at length all the casino terms and regulations because it will only make it difficult in the future.
By reading the rules, gamblers can find out all the restrictions that have been given by casinos, so we can easily avoid all of this so that no problems occur that can harm gamblers.
In fact, it will provide many benefits, not disadvantages, because every rule must be obeyed and gamblers can gamble comfortably and calmly, not needing to be afraid of violating existing rules, because they already know about them.
Like the OP was able to find a casino without KYC because he read the rules there.
You have to be able to understand that the rules written by the casino are also good for gamblers.

FUD will result in a person's trust, If the OP spreads FUD with the aim of influencing others not to register, it is very unethical because without any research it spreads false news.

Duelbits is one of the online casinos that are quite old and can survive until now, I even participated in several contests and became a winner and was paid according to the promised prize.

For people who do not follow the rules that have been made by Duelbits or other casinos, then no action is given according to what is violated.
But most do not read the rules that are written in the FAQ.

KYC is a common thing when the gambling site gets a Legal license, because KYC is a rule made for casino security and the security of all users.
The collection of personal data is the responsibility of the casino and is a choice of each user. Agree or not it is a rule that must be obeyed.

I think that soon the casino without KYC will be only cheat casino. I can`t say that i`m happy with such situation but it seems so. We can`t do anything with it and we can only accept with this rule or stop gambling. As for me - KYC can`t change my opinion about casino and i`ll continue gambling. The only thing i want to change - we must KYC during the registration, it is honest for everybody.