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October 10, 2022, 05:53:11 AM
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So any updates from OP? I guess he relented and got his KYC verified?

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October 25, 2022, 02:11:44 AM
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Casinos know that if they asked for this information upfront a great deal of players will not bother... I think casinos keep this information hidden so scammers do not abuse their policies
I agree with the first part and I totally understand why most casinos do not enforce kyc on registration as this will result in them losing many of potential customers. But the reason you mentioned isn't reasonable and some may even consider it unethical since a good service provider has to as clear and transparent as possible with its customers when it comes to their policies.

Most likely this is just another misinterpretation by the gambler itself to the rule of the casino. I know how reputable duelbits is so somehow, i won't agree with what OP says. As a gambler, i know KYC can be somewhat annoying but this is not new to us anymore as most of the reputable casinos these days always require KYC once you decide to withraw your funds.

Well, this is something that nobody likes, complying with a KYC is synonymous with something that always slows us down, either because we don't like to give out the data, because of the problem that we don't want leaked data or things that happen with our data, but as many have said, privacy and anonymity is a right but in these times that will end, and one of the things that casino sites can do everything legal is to require KYC to be able to have legality and authenticity due to that many licenses require it, and the most important thing for a site is to have everything within the framework of the law, and although KYC does not guarantee security, they are the protocols that must currently be followed in all casinos.

We should get used to casinos requesting KYC during big withdrawals since we are constantly being faced with such demands at some certain point.
The only way to avoid this is to play on a decentralized site only because most of the AML compliance platforms with a license will require some form of KYC if not at the beginning of your registration there will ask during the cause of your playing with them if you win an amount higher than $5,000 and you want to withdraw the whole amount, you may be asked to submit your ids.
I know that for the people that have been part of the market for a long time this is not something they like at all as they would like to keep using centralized services without having to identify themselves, but those days are over, the more this market grows the more attention it receives from the governments and the more they want to regulate it, so people need to get used to this and if they want to retain some level of privacy they have no other option but to use decentralized services.

for me KYC in gambling when needed i think is fine. meaning if a gambler enters on a gambling platform without KYC and after getting a big win he wants to withdraw all his money and is required by KYC to verify if he is not a robot or a criminal being manipulated in gambling.
well, it's really not recommended for KYC on gambling platforms or a gambler also almost doesn't want KYC on gambling platforms because of the risk when stored data will leak. but if you don't do anything during KYC the winnings cannot be withdrawn because each gambling platform has its own policy. i myself will always take risks because life is full of risks. choose to risk victory or not forever.
and i believe the gambling platform mentioned by the OP is a reputable platform that we can rely on for the security of our personal data
Well it's like you say, everything is a risk, in the event that a person plays on a platform where they make profits, if they are required to have a KYC then they must do it, in my case if something like that happens to me in Duelbits I would not hesitate to put all the KYC that I can, however something that would bother me is that my KYC and for unimportant things tell me that I have to do it again, as happens in some Exchanges like Binance that for KYC are quite annoying, sometimes people It is difficult for them to get certain papers, and that is something that can sometimes bother them if they do not approve it, I prefer to do a KYC with video, identification with a name, something like that, that are not so radical.

We should get used to casinos requesting KYC during big withdrawals since we are constantly being faced with such demands at some certain point.
The only way to avoid this is to play on a decentralized site only because most of the AML compliance platforms with a license will require some form of KYC if not at the beginning of your registration there will ask during the cause of your playing with them if you win an amount higher than $5,000 and you want to withdraw the whole amount, you may be asked to submit your ids.
I know that for the people that have been part of the market for a long time this is not something they like at all as they would like to keep using centralized services without having to identify themselves, but those days are over, the more this market grows the more attention it receives from the governments and the more they want to regulate it, so people need to get used to this and if they want to retain some level of privacy they have no other option but to use decentralized services.
KYC issues for me are mainly sought by governments and obviously by banks, it is a way of following up on what people want to pursue and do, this is something that is already normal for me, it does not seem strange to me that a government wants to have control of everything, obviously in casinos through licenses it is the easiest way to enter and obtain all kinds of information, this is something that is not very good, but that every player should know, it is not the fault of the casino, as this is something that slips out of the hands of any player who wants anonymity. In the case of some sites that always want to be without this, they will probably go to war with you because they require KYC.

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January 07, 2023, 10:56:09 PM
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for me KYC in gambling when needed i think is fine. meaning if a gambler enters on a gambling platform without KYC and after getting a big win he wants to withdraw all his money and is required by KYC to verify if he is not a robot or a criminal being manipulated in gambling.
well, it's really not recommended for KYC on gambling platforms or a gambler also almost doesn't want KYC on gambling platforms because of the risk when stored data will leak. but if you don't do anything during KYC the winnings cannot be withdrawn because each gambling platform has its own policy. i myself will always take risks because life is full of risks. choose to risk victory or not forever.
and i believe the gambling platform mentioned by the OP is a reputable platform that we can rely on for the security of our personal data
Well it's like you say, everything is a risk, in the event that a person plays on a platform where they make profits, if they are required to have a KYC then they must do it, in my case if something like that happens to me in Duelbits I would not hesitate to put all the KYC that I can, however something that would bother me is that my KYC and for unimportant things tell me that I have to do it again, as happens in some Exchanges like Binance that for KYC are quite annoying, sometimes people It is difficult for them to get certain papers, and that is something that can sometimes bother them if they do not approve it, I prefer to do a KYC with video, identification with a name, something like that, that are not so radical.

to be honest, if I were given the choice to choose KYC on an exchange or on a gambling platform like Duelbits, I would prefer KYC on Duelbits. because actually for me bigger hacking vulnerability is on exchange compared to gambling platform.
but I still do KYC on the exchange because I need a bigger limit when I want to withdraw my assets on the exchange.
so like you said i get profit from gambling and i need it, so it's ok if i do KYC on some popular and reputable gambling platform like Duelbits.

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January 07, 2023, 11:47:14 PM
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for me KYC in gambling when needed i think is fine. meaning if a gambler enters on a gambling platform without KYC and after getting a big win he wants to withdraw all his money and is required by KYC to verify if he is not a robot or a criminal being manipulated in gambling.
well, it's really not recommended for KYC on gambling platforms or a gambler also almost doesn't want KYC on gambling platforms because of the risk when stored data will leak. but if you don't do anything during KYC the winnings cannot be withdrawn because each gambling platform has its own policy. i myself will always take risks because life is full of risks. choose to risk victory or not forever.
and i believe the gambling platform mentioned by the OP is a reputable platform that we can rely on for the security of our personal data
Well it's like you say, everything is a risk, in the event that a person plays on a platform where they make profits, if they are required to have a KYC then they must do it, in my case if something like that happens to me in Duelbits I would not hesitate to put all the KYC that I can, however something that would bother me is that my KYC and for unimportant things tell me that I have to do it again, as happens in some Exchanges like Binance that for KYC are quite annoying, sometimes people It is difficult for them to get certain papers, and that is something that can sometimes bother them if they do not approve it, I prefer to do a KYC with video, identification with a name, something like that, that are not so radical.

to be honest, if I were given the choice to choose KYC on an exchange or on a gambling platform like Duelbits, I would prefer KYC on Duelbits. because actually for me bigger hacking vulnerability is on exchange compared to gambling platform.
but I still do KYC on the exchange because I need a bigger limit when I want to withdraw my assets on the exchange.
so like you said i get profit from gambling and i need it, so it's ok if i do KYC on some popular and reputable gambling platform like Duelbits.
Deal things according to your needs which it would really be just that common sense that you would or should need to comply if you are really that been asked with some kyc or verification yet considering these platforms are heavily regulated then its normal that they would really be abiding with the rules and laws which would be passed up to the users or players which there's no other choice but to deal with it or else
you would be experiencing some problems.It is really just that there are people who do really value up that much their privacy which i couldnt blame them but in order to have that smooth user experience then you
have no choice whether you do accept out these changes or not.Yes, it do really sucks because crypto is for decentralization but we do know that these platforms are centralized which means they are really that
having the tendency to impose such changes basing up on whats been mandated or been ordered to them.

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January 08, 2023, 04:05:37 AM
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for me KYC in gambling when needed i think is fine. meaning if a gambler enters on a gambling platform without KYC and after getting a big win he wants to withdraw all his money and is required by KYC to verify if he is not a robot or a criminal being manipulated in gambling.
well, it's really not recommended for KYC on gambling platforms or a gambler also almost doesn't want KYC on gambling platforms because of the risk when stored data will leak. but if you don't do anything during KYC the winnings cannot be withdrawn because each gambling platform has its own policy. i myself will always take risks because life is full of risks. choose to risk victory or not forever.
and i believe the gambling platform mentioned by the OP is a reputable platform that we can rely on for the security of our personal data
Well it's like you say, everything is a risk, in the event that a person plays on a platform where they make profits, if they are required to have a KYC then they must do it, in my case if something like that happens to me in Duelbits I would not hesitate to put all the KYC that I can, however something that would bother me is that my KYC and for unimportant things tell me that I have to do it again, as happens in some Exchanges like Binance that for KYC are quite annoying, sometimes people It is difficult for them to get certain papers, and that is something that can sometimes bother them if they do not approve it, I prefer to do a KYC with video, identification with a name, something like that, that are not so radical.

to be honest, if I were given the choice to choose KYC on an exchange or on a gambling platform like Duelbits, I would prefer KYC on Duelbits. because actually for me bigger hacking vulnerability is on exchange compared to gambling platform.
but I still do KYC on the exchange because I need a bigger limit when I want to withdraw my assets on the exchange.
so like you said i get profit from gambling and i need it, so it's ok if i do KYC on some popular and reputable gambling platform like Duelbits.
without kyc you have opportunity to use decentralized exchanges btw we are using centralized to get no limit, and so many additional features,
i haven’t needed kyc in gambling site because i didn’t deposit big amount here,
i agree with you i have no problem if ask kyc in trusted gamble site.
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January 17, 2023, 02:03:03 AM
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for me KYC in gambling when needed i think is fine. meaning if a gambler enters on a gambling platform without KYC and after getting a big win he wants to withdraw all his money and is required by KYC to verify if he is not a robot or a criminal being manipulated in gambling.
well, it's really not recommended for KYC on gambling platforms or a gambler also almost doesn't want KYC on gambling platforms because of the risk when stored data will leak. but if you don't do anything during KYC the winnings cannot be withdrawn because each gambling platform has its own policy. i myself will always take risks because life is full of risks. choose to risk victory or not forever.
and i believe the gambling platform mentioned by the OP is a reputable platform that we can rely on for the security of our personal data
Well it's like you say, everything is a risk, in the event that a person plays on a platform where they make profits, if they are required to have a KYC then they must do it, in my case if something like that happens to me in Duelbits I would not hesitate to put all the KYC that I can, however something that would bother me is that my KYC and for unimportant things tell me that I have to do it again, as happens in some Exchanges like Binance that for KYC are quite annoying, sometimes people It is difficult for them to get certain papers, and that is something that can sometimes bother them if they do not approve it, I prefer to do a KYC with video, identification with a name, something like that, that are not so radical.

to be honest, if I were given the choice to choose KYC on an exchange or on a gambling platform like Duelbits, I would prefer KYC on Duelbits. because actually for me bigger hacking vulnerability is on exchange compared to gambling platform.
but I still do KYC on the exchange because I need a bigger limit when I want to withdraw my assets on the exchange.
so like you said i get profit from gambling and i need it, so it's ok if i do KYC on some popular and reputable gambling platform like Duelbits.
without kyc you have opportunity to use decentralized exchanges btw we are using centralized to get no limit, and so many additional features,
i haven’t needed kyc in gambling site because i didn’t deposit big amount here,
i agree with you i have no problem if ask kyc in trusted gamble site.


Yes, in fact, when I enter a new casino and they ask me for KYC, I simply don't provide it, it seems to me that there is no need, I don't know if the casino will be successful in the near future or if it is simply a scam, even here in the forum they have done tricks to defraud players and that is something that we must be very careful about, a new casino is not the same as an old casino in terms of KYC, decentralized exchanges are a great option, although I cannot deny that decentralized casinos have something to do with them distrust, and decentralized exchanges at the time of having a problem, personalized attention is usually a little late on occasions.

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January 17, 2023, 02:57:13 AM
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Yes, in fact, when I enter a new casino and they ask me for KYC, I simply don't provide it, it seems to me that there is no need, I don't know if the casino will be successful in the near future or if it is simply a scam, even here in the forum they have done tricks to defraud players and that is something that we must be very careful about, a new casino is not the same as an old casino in terms of KYC,
Most of us prefer to keep our anonymity so we can gamble at ease, and don't have to worry incase there's a data breach since we didn't provide our personal details. However, nowadays it's already common requirement of a casino to their players if their platform is regulated. But we need to be careful on what platform we're going to provide our details, it should be reputable and already established so we already know their history and aware how trusted their platform. New casinos doesn't necessarily mean they're likely a scam that we need to avoid, it's just that they need to prove first that they can be trusted.

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Soon our crypto casino Betcrypto.cr is going to be ready and no more KYC for anyone!
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Soon our crypto casino Betcrypto.cr is going to be ready and no more KYC for anyone!

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Soon our crypto casino Betcrypto.cr is going to be ready and no more KYC for anyone!
Try to put that on your Own ANN Thread but it is good to hear that you are a new casino and yeah not asking for KYC , lets see once there is a need for big withdrawal or those who win with luck if you will still not implement this KYC thing.

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Platforms asking KYC to process your withdrawal is a common thing, that is why it is almost impossible to have a platform that doesn't require KYC all throughout your stay with them. Some of these KYC are not actually as aggressive and require only your basic info so I don't see why you're flaming so hard.

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I think that it would be a lot more ethical for a casino to pre-warn about KYC being required instead of the user depositing, playing and getting a surprise when withdrawing. I don't believe in the practice of prompting for KYC after allowing the usage of the platform before hand. Even if it's a common thing, if it's not clearly stated or prompted prior to accepting a deposit, I don't think that it's acceptable.
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Platforms asking KYC to process your withdrawal is a common thing, that is why it is almost impossible to have a platform that doesn't require KYC all throughout your stay with them. Some of these KYC are not actually as aggressive and require only your basic info so I don't see why you're flaming so hard.

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I think that it would be a lot more ethical for a casino to pre-warn about KYC being required instead of the user depositing, playing and getting a surprise when withdrawing. I don't believe in the practice of prompting for KYC after allowing the usage of the platform before hand. Even if it's a common thing, if it's not clearly stated or prompted prior to accepting a deposit, I don't think that it's acceptable.

That has happened to me, when I go to a casino and play, if I win and if I withdraw they ask me for a number of documents for the KYC. and it doesn't bother me much, what bothers me is that you have to wait a long time for them to verify the KYC and so they can process the withdrawal, when a casino has these things, it's good that they have a notice that when you are going to withdraw money, the KYC has to be approved to do this process much earlier and not at the time the money is needed, that is something they have to do, so as not to annoy the players, that is the only thing that bothers me, for the KYC not so much but the wait.

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January 19, 2023, 06:38:22 AM
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Platforms asking KYC to process your withdrawal is a common thing, that is why it is almost impossible to have a platform that doesn't require KYC all throughout your stay with them. Some of these KYC are not actually as aggressive and require only your basic info so I don't see why you're flaming so hard.

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I think that it would be a lot more ethical for a casino to pre-warn about KYC being required instead of the user depositing, playing and getting a surprise when withdrawing. I don't believe in the practice of prompting for KYC after allowing the usage of the platform before hand. Even if it's a common thing, if it's not clearly stated or prompted prior to accepting a deposit, I don't think that it's acceptable.
Based on my personal experience with this particular platform my withdrawal got delayed and later it was mentioned that we're supposed to make withdrawal request based on the cryptocurrency used for deposit. I made deposit in bitcoin and requested withdrawal in BNB. Later on making bitcoin withdrawal it got processed immediately. So, at times issues might arise and the support team is responsive to clarify the reason.

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Platforms asking KYC to process your withdrawal is a common thing, that is why it is almost impossible to have a platform that doesn't require KYC all throughout your stay with them. Some of these KYC are not actually as aggressive and require only your basic info so I don't see why you're flaming so hard.

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I think that it would be a lot more ethical for a casino to pre-warn about KYC being required instead of the user depositing, playing and getting a surprise when withdrawing. I don't believe in the practice of prompting for KYC after allowing the usage of the platform before hand. Even if it's a common thing, if it's not clearly stated or prompted prior to accepting a deposit, I don't think that it's acceptable.
Based on my personal experience with this particular platform my withdrawal got delayed and later it was mentioned that we're supposed to make withdrawal request based on the cryptocurrency used for deposit. I made deposit in bitcoin and requested withdrawal in BNB. Later on making bitcoin withdrawal it got processed immediately. So, at times issues might arise and the support team is responsive to clarify the reason.


This is not true. Been using Duelbits for a long time and I’m always using XRP or Doge as currency for my deposit and withdraw on different currency but mostly in Bitcoin without encountering that same problem. Duelbits automatically convert balance to USD that only means any currency is allowed to use during the withdrawal process. Probably you choose a coin that has a maintenance on the network that cause the delay for your withdrawal but it should work in any currency withdrawal that different to the deposit currency in general.

They should just not convert all the currency in the wallet balance to USD if they will not allowed different currency  withdrawal at first place. This is a wrong misconception on how Duelbits work.

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Hello,

Sure, beware, do not sign up for Duelbits if you don't want to go through the hassle of KYC (Know Your Customer) verification when trying to withdraw your funds. They allow you to create an account, deposit, and bet without any indication of KYC being required, but when it comes time to withdraw your funds, that's when they ask for it. It's important to be aware of the KYC policies of any platform you are using, before you deposit and play.

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I guess another user who does not read the terms and conditions also with the FaQs common problem with the people who just got attracted easily to the marketing strategy of the gambling casino I guess op makes a deposit with new account and get a good profit and immediately want to withdraw which can be suspicious activity tag for a new account. Its the players responsibility to read those needed information to prevent this kind of topic again.

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We should have been ready with this KYC if we have been using the casino for a long time because now, it seems that KYC has become an important part of the casino that every gambler must comply with. So if every casino asks us to do KYC one day, we have to be ready and do it. But we also can move to other casinos that don't require KYC, so we don't have to get confused or bother dealing with KYC issues for our accounts. And it seems every casino has a minimum threshold that applies to its members who don't want to do KYC, so if you don't want to do KYC, you don't have to go over that limit. That's just my guess.
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I guess another user who does not read the terms and conditions also with the FaQs common problem with the people who just got attracted easily to the marketing strategy of the gambling casino I guess op makes a deposit with new account and get a good profit and immediately want to withdraw which can be suspicious activity tag for a new account. Its the players responsibility to read those needed information to prevent this kind of topic again.

In fact, unlike other sportsbooks in the industry, apart from the typical T&Cs they have at least since September a full AML and KYC policy explained in their website, here.

In addition, they don't claim that they can make any changes in the T&Cs they want without prior notice, which is also quite typical in the industry. In this sense:

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We reserve the right, at Our sole discretion, to modify or replace these Terms at any time. If a revision is material We will make reasonable efforts to provide at least 14 days' notice prior to any new terms taking effect. What constitutes a material change will be determined at Our sole discretion.

I get that many people don't like to read, or even when they do it they understand only what they want to understand. It is good that the OP warned about the KYC so people who don't want to go through that procedure can avoid it before making any deposit in Duelbits. But the way it is written (bold and capital letters) implies that Duelbits is doing something unfair, which IMO is not the case.

Not only being our own bank, but also depositing your cryptos in thirdparty services comes with responsibility. You do have to be aware of the T&Cs.

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January 19, 2023, 03:13:51 PM
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DO NOT CREATE AN ACCOUNT ON DUELBITS IF YOU DONT WANT TO BE ASKED FOR KYC AT THE TIME YOU WANT TO WITHDRAW

THEY LET YOU CREATE ACCOUNT... DEPOSIT... BET... NO SIGN OF KYC ANYWHERE... UNTIL YOU WANT TO WITHDRAW YOUR FUNDS

I don't understand why many of us are discouraging KYC when it's for your safety and the site. It validates the credibility and genuinity of the user and ensures safe transactions. Seriously I don't prefer any platform which doesn't have KYC Policies.

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I guess another user who does not read the terms and conditions also with the FaQs common problem with the people who just got attracted easily to the marketing strategy of the gambling casino I guess op makes a deposit with new account and get a good profit and immediately want to withdraw which can be suspicious activity tag for a new account. Its the players responsibility to read those needed information to prevent this kind of topic again.

When ever you go once in a gambling it's very hard to say that this kind of situation will be okay, and of curse there are the rules and regulations about this, but Op I think he must very excited to withdraw his funds as we all know that once a new created account win a good amount then the owner will withdraw his money immediately then for sure the casino will take an action of this and before he can withdraw he must pass the KYC needed.

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