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I have found this guy who has written the last 4 or 5 posts in about a 5 minute interval.

What should I do? Should I report him? Should I tell his campaign manager?

Do you think this way of posting is acceptable?

Edit 10/23/2022: I've found another burstposter. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5416811.msg61168669#msg61168669)

In general forum rules, the content of the post should be prioritized over the time interval of each post. But since you are enrolled on the signature campaign which you agree to follow when you submit your application. The rules of your campaign will govern and this way of posting is not acceptable for them.

Only campaign makes this such rules because without a payment, People will not waste time post burst here unless he doesn't have a social life.

I don't know if this is /s post or not. I only see that its your history profile with just the way you describe about the time interval of posting in the last 5 posts or so.

Well, back to the question, it will be an issue to other managers but the post quality should be considered as priority and not the time interval and the number of posts made in a day.

Are the posts spam? If yes, then you can report them to the moderator for them to take actions. If not, it isn't against forum rules. The forum has a cool down time which reduces as members rank up, and any post space allowed is normal.
It could be a issue with the campaign they are in, but not necessarily a forum one.

Poker Player mistakenly linked to their own profile and not that of the user in question.

I don't think it's a mistake since what he mentioned is what it shows in the latest replies that he did. Maybe he is just concerned that what he did is okay.

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This would be dependent on the campaign manager if he would accept it. Maybe he is catching up with post count?

some campaign managers manage several posts per day and Post Burst. but some don't think about it and focus more on the quality of the posts made.
mostly the bounty campaign manager (altcoin), who seems to regulate the number of posts per day. some of them don't see Bursting Post as a problem, as long as what they count is the maximum post limit per day.

All I could see is your post history, not the post history of any other person.

If the posts are not worthy and if it is more of spam, best to report it. But even if worthy, such should not be acceptable. This is a forum, it will not be good if someone because of campaign have some posts without posting it yet until certain time. I will always prefer to read and post to what is presently happening.

You must be taking piss off of everyone or have some hidden desire to experiment the reaction of the members. LOL
Like:
Are they reading the topic or just making a response without reading it.
Or you are trying everyone to see the interval of your post history 😂

I'm pretty sure Poker Player just screwed up and linked to his own profile instead of the burst poster, despite what seems like a long shot explanation:


But my response in any case would be this: OP, you've been around long enough to know that either reporting burst posters to mods and/or to the member's campaign manager would both be appropriate, although I'd say it depends on the quality of the posts themselves.  There was some member a couple of years ago who was throwing down very well-thought out posts in a rapid fire manner, and despite him obviously not being a shitposter he got called out on it publicly.  Wish I could remember his username.

Is the member in question here ramanlop0 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=3509875) by any chance?  He posted after Poker Player in PP's second to last post, and looking at his post history it does look like he's making posts very quickly--and they're very short ones.  Those I would report.

I think you need to get some sleep ;)

You made me laugh a lot, many of the responses above didn't even click on the link and gave answers based on assumptions.
In general, the best advice is to wait until we know which account @OP is referring to, and then respond accordingly.

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OOps I'm out of merits, it's the first time in a long time. :'(

Imagine PP wanted to test user's behavior 🤣

I am sure too. The above post was just to make fun of some users who reacted on the thread not even looking at the post history. No offense guys, sometimes we all are too lazy to go into the deep.

That's some thought and would be one way to stire reactions but, I think it was an error from OP as I don't think OP would be this eager to put himself in the spotlight of some negativity as he clearly knows post bursting isn't okay. As this is mostly aimed at meeting campaign quotas, ninjastic.space could detect and campaign managers frowns at it which makes it some unacceptable act.

In anyways, I also checked his last seen and its way back to 4am UTC in contracts to when most of these responses started pouring in and as such, his yet to realise the mistake he must have made in that link. Sure he would show us this user pretty soon.

I almost thought I was the only one who found this hilarious @LoyceV @hugeblack. I chuckled when I saw this. LoyceV is capable of some comic act yeah.

Seeing this is the most recent post from OP today, I believe he will correct the error when he comes online. Before then, I still would like to share my thoughts on the matter. AFAIK if the user breaks any of  the rules  (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=703657.msg7955645#msg7955645), 1-9 you should definitely report the posts immediately. Bringing this to public notice makes me wonder if there is suspicion that the user might be a bot? I found a thread one time about DdmrDdmr sending merits to different accounts too fast and the OP called him a machine or something like that. I wonder if it is a similar case

Man, you had us in the first half there ngl

Just in case the OP is referring to themselves, I tend to interpret burst posting as frequent low-quality posts.  If some users have the capacity to contribute several thought-provoking and substantial posts in rapid succession, I don't have any problems with that.

Nowadays we should take into account things like ADHD and neurodiversity.  Some people do have minds that can go a thousand miles an hour and can easily produce several posts of worthwhile content without a pause in between.  Provided it's coherent and on-topic, I don't personally see any harm in that.  Although I'd understand if a signature campaign manager took a different stance, heh.  But then that's not a Meta issue.

Lol.
OP went offline the same second he made this topic.

OP actually made a mistake in copying the intended profile for his own but what i see regarding post bursting is that if the amount of oost made isn't beyond four or five post within a short time frame and yet carry a semantic meaning with quality contents, i will admit such isn't a post bursting but any other way round aside this could be termed so, now it also depends onnthe user if in campaign or not, here the campaign managers are required to thorough go through the post of their participants before accreditation pay payout, I've seen some users being reported for editing post bursting after they would have posted an empty replies just to fulfill payment required post for a campaign, all these needed to be carefully observed by campaign managers, also we have different typing skill, accuracy and speed being different from each other, this does not equally means post bursting in somecases whereby the user is a fast typists.

@Poker Player
Don't drink and post, it's dangerous. ;D

I have never given much thought to post bursting. But if the content of the posts are OK and it isn't spam except the posts coming in quick succession one after the other, I personally wouldn't mind it.

I did think of something though. Imagine you were reading a few threads or posts and then you had to leave or go to work before you can come up with a decent reply. During the time you are gone, you might write a draft of what you want to say or write it on your work computer and save the content somewhere. Later when you get home where you are safe to access Bitcointalk, you come back to your attachments or drafts, check that you aren't repeating what others have already said, and you post it in the appropriate threads. Since the posts were already written in advance, you can post all of them relatively quickly, and they will look like burst posting. But that doesn't necessarily mean they are shit posts and should be deleted.

I would rather see your post quality and if you are on-topic. Many people are capable of writing extremely fast, and they can write at the speed of their thinking. JJG, Franky1 could be the example. I don't see it as a problem if people can write healthy posts within a few minutes.

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I don't think the Poker player linked his post history by mistake. He wants to see what the community feels about this posting habit. Sometimes it happens to me as well. I read the whole day and don't find anything to post. But, Sometimes, it also happens that I just made a post and saw another post where I am interested in joining the discussion. My campaign allows me to post five posts in a day. But, If it's worth joining the debate, I won't mind joining. 

Maybe, usually depends on the manager and also on the quality post they write. But if it refers to the rules, then I think it's okay.

We have a post time limit per rank level, here's the formula based on what theymos say:


Outside the context of a signature campaign, I think that burst posts can be determined by their quality, not how long the time interval is for each post. Any user who has activity points above 100 will be able to post between 4 second intervals, so of course if they post at 5 minute intervals or less than 10 minutes per post it's not against the rules and is allowed in my opinion. But if they are in the campaign then I think the manager will be stricter about the intervals.

If it doesn't violates the forum rules then there is nothing wrong with that.

If you feel its bursting post with low quality content then don't forget to use the report to moderator button.

Apart from this if the person is in campaign and the manager may have their own terms and conditions which is normally noticed by the manager if there is any violation and still getting paid, if it doesn't get noticed bt manager then you can use PM.

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But the person you mentioned is actually w(y)ou? ???

Only one solution:
Thermos should definitely bun him!

That aside, you should get a misleading tag also, the spammer was doing posts in 5 minutes intervals, not "last 4 or 5 posts in about a 5 minute interval"
Also, if you have a beef with the account in question you should post from your main account, not hide behind an alt!  :D


Yeah right, sometimes when I read the new topics some people make and the initial replies I feel like the whole forum is sponsored by Heineken!

+1
For some time I was just a listener of the Meta section. Only admits unqualified capacity on a thread full of drama. However, at this point, I am moved to comment on the sidelines of my serious reading. Why didn't the OP think about sleeping? Lol  ;D

After he wakes up, he'll probably be frowning a little bit about the link actually referring to his own post.  ::)

I was going to mention this quote by theymos also, to my understanding the 360 seconds wait time only applies to newbie accounts. I remember being confused when I first joined the forum and tried posting simultaneously, I was warned I couldn’t make another post for a time, all this ended when I reached member rank. As for whether campaign managers should add this technicality that seems to be exploited according to OP to their campaign rules, I don’t know. I think campaign managers should have the independence to manage their campaign and participants as they deem fit.

And get a dark mode userscript before you go.

I'm not really sure whether it was an experiment or you mistakenly had your profile linked.

In general, I don't think it should be categorized as spam or you should be worried here unless they are spam though the chance is higher. However, posting time interval alone can never be a criteria to judge a post quality in my opinion.
Anyway, this is common here. You can see a lot of people are doing this. Posting 4/5 in less than 30 minutes because they have to cover a few more maybe  :D

Beginner rankings will be subject to some restrictions, including time interval:

• Time interval between posts
• The number of PMs you can send in a day
• Time interval between reports to the moderator.
• Etc

Sometimes I have to ignore my notification bot to fast responding to posts of other users mentioning me or quoting my posts for reasons of burst post. Although I can still respond to each of those responses at the speed possible for a few minutes from the mention, but I end up not doing it very often. The problem isn't with the forum rules, but maybe the campaign manager doesn't want to see the burst post. I know, when the post quality is well maintained then the time interval between posts is not a big problem for the manager.

Link you shared lead to your post history @pokerplayer, many other users have pointed this out, so maybe you were referring to yourself.. Which ever or whatever you mean or meant is up to you, but what I do think about posting bursting is that it is actually post bursting if the posts are spammy and carries no semantic weight, that is meaningless.

There are people who can be gifted to type really fast, and if in 5 minutes, such a person creates 2 posts or 3, that actually has good quality and passes a good message, should we still consider such as post bursting?, I don't think so.

Hmmm I have worked in many campaigns and used to believe burst posting meant making 25 posts in two days just to meet post quota. Campaign managers, at least the ones I have had the privilege to work with, do not condone such actions and may at times remove the user from the campaign. This other form of “post bursting” as I now know it to be is a new rule to me perhaps I have been ignorant of the rules. I will have to read the forum rules again for better understanding.

According to OP it was 4 or 5 posts with 5 min intervals, so the way I see it it was: post (5min pause) post. If that's the case this is completely normal.
If the guy is in a campaign the manager might not like it and give him a warning, but as far as forum rules go it's OK.


People understand it in many different ways. Some will tell you that burst posting is x posts in a day, but some will pay attention to the exact time too.
The general rule is: don't go crazy and I'll leave you to interpret what crazy is.

I am aware that forum frowns at post bursting,  I don't think I have a problem with how fast someone was able to produce a post. If the posts  are quality and upto 3 to 4 lines and then related to what is being discussed, I'll rather applaud the person for being a fast typist and a fast reasoner. My problem will be if what is produced is shit.
I also know that there is forum wait time which SatoPrincess quoted above. Will it be right to say that anyone who was not caught by the forum wait time did not post burst?

Poker player is yet to fix the link in OP, I guess he can't find the post burster anymore  ;D

You got me quite confused here at first.  ;)
Ill assume this is a social experiment by Poker Player to see the reaction of all of us to his thread until further explanation is provided.

I personally doubt this is the result of drinking while posting, tbh.

Irony, double meaning and sarcasm doesn't seem to be your things,  as far as I can see. But partly that helps me to confirm the idea I had: that you don't consider the last 5 posts I wrote before this one, the 5 written yesterday as burst posting, probably because you don't consider them of low quality.

It's simply that I recently had a disagreement with someone I respect about what is burst posting and that person considers that I sometimes border on what would be burst posting because I write at wider intervals than that.

Normally, when I'm fresh and rested, and I've just had a coffee, I usually write 3 or 4 posts in an average interval of 10 minutes, rather than 5 like I did yesterday. If the community does not consider my yesterday's posts as burst posting, it helps me to reaffirm myself in my idea.

Edit: I see that one of yesterday's posts was deleted, the one responding to who has frozen funds on stake.com and is asked for proof of income, probably because the OP had made duplicate threads.

Well, now you have to tell us who that person is so that we can properly administer ridicule.

I have sent a PM to him, and I assume he will come by to comment. I think it's the right thing to do, and I don't think he's made a fool of himself for his opinion on the matter. On the contrary, I believe that the divergence of opinion and this thread have led to a healthy discussion on the matter.

I was in the middle of a television program when you pmed and wanted to finish before reading this thread.

Ok so let's start from the beginning. A few days back I was grading the winz.io campaign of which Poker Player is a participant. I noticed that Poker Player had alot of posts in a short window of time(1-15 minutes. He sent me a pm where I had quoted 5 mins or less, but in reality 1-15 mins is a decent window). I decided to send him a pm


As you can see, I appreciate his quality and was not rude with the user. I also am trying out a couple new rules in the campaign and I think it's only fair to treat everyone the same unless we have spoken and come to a mutual agreement. In this case, no such agreement has been talked about. New rules below


Now, alot of you are probably thinking it's not a big deal his quality is decent. I agree which is why I sent a pm and was nice about it and asked him to be more aware. Should have been the end of it IMO. I was not expecting the pm I got next. Basically he said he would continue as is and if it's an issue I'll just have to kick him.

I've been going back n forth on whether to kick him or keep him in. I didn't really care for the reply or at least the way it was sent, but I don't feel like he was trying to be a dick, that's just how he is. So for now I have let him stay. I sent a warning and if he continues I have to enforce the rules I set for every user.

Now let's talk about why burstposting is a big deal.  Let's say I open a sig campaign with 1 member in it. A burstposter is whom I selected and they make all their posts in 1 day. What happens to that users posts? Basically, after about 2 hours their 20-25 posts they made for the campaign will be buried on page 2,3,4 or whatever page. The advertisement in their signature space will be non existent and the company that paid me to hire that user will have wasted their money. In a perfect campaign I would love to see 3-5 posts per day spread out throughout the day. Maximum exposure. Everyone is in different timezones and this would have you seeing a company ad at all times throughout the week, but most people try to make their quota in 1-3 days for various reasons which I'm not here to discuss currently.

Users in campaigns have been banned for this in the past. Posting simply for monetary gain and spamming the forum. He doesn't exactly fit in the spamming category but 100% in the burstposting category.

I think the following reply sums it up the best


Regardless of how anyone feels, you do submit to follow the rules once you apply to a campaign and are accepted. He knows this and agrees, so this isn't an issue with Poker Player, just something I agree with in general.

Healthy discussion is never a bad thing. Never know how a person's view might change if you never start the conversation.

Let me share some words and a solution from my perspective. I respect and value your and other campaign managers perspective too.

If someone is burstposting and making 100 posts during a week or at least +5/10 posts a week, I wouldn't consider them exclude from the campaign. Of course, quality is the first priority. I don't want to name the user here who made 2x of required posts in a week, they do almost the same when they are not in a paid signature campaign. They are genuine users and I would be more than happy to get them into a campaign.

But the users who made exactly the same amount of posts required by the manager and burstpost + complete within a few days must be treated as you said.

And I'm out of smerit, I wanted to put a few on your post. You deserve them.

https://i.ibb.co/BgT3HVp/sssss.png

There are many factors to consider burst posting

• Quality is main factor. If your posts are short and very low quality but they are written in short period. Only these are enough to judge as burst posting
• Quality is good. Assume so, there are other things behind it. Because posters have many ways to post. You can scan forum topics, and pick ones that you are interested in, want to join discussion. Next, two options to make your posts
  
  • Compose each post and publish it instanly. Most of us posting in this way with which time interval between posts should be long enough. Especially if you find topics, make one post, then find other topics and make other posts.
  • Compose each post, reserve it in draft and publish all posts in a batch. That would case a more likely burst posting.

Years ago, actmyname tested how many posts he can make in 60 minutes.

• [EXPERIMENT] Testing the Limits of Shitposting (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5133932.0)

Well if I were one of the participants in your campaign that manage by you and received a message like this, I will consider this as a warning and will never do it again. This means --I joined the signature campaign that is managed by you so it means your rule will follow. Your campaign, your rule. Not all managers have the same criteria for checking posts, so if you have been warned, you need to change your posting habit even though consider it a quality post.
However, this is not a big deal if you will follow the rules even if that is a burst post or not ^{[at least you have been warned]} --or leave the spot that you have and find another manager.

I'd say if there's a user who can their posting habit because of the campaign they joined, actually the campaign isn't for them since they're honestly not meet the whole criteria.

This is what the solution is or just simply not try to join the campaign, but as we know there's many users are really want to get money even though they need to become a completely different person e.g. the one who regularly post on local language and not a gambler, but the campaign doesn't count any post on local language board and need to post in gambling section.

My assumption is indeed that the classification as "burst posting" should be related to low quality posts. It doesn't make sense to complain when someone makes many good posts in a row. Once in a while I forget to post a post, and find that tab back right after posting another post. That means I have posts just seconds apart, and there's nothing wrong with that.
However, from a campaign manager's (advertising) perspective, I get that they want their exposure to be spread evenly throughout the week. That's fine too, if they make a rule that posts have to be at least 30 minutes apart, they're free not to count/pay for those posts. But they shouldn't expect me to change what I'm doing.

Would your post be any better if you keep the tabs open, set a timer, and post the same posts 30 minutes apart?

Why does it matter what the community thinks in this case? If it's not spam, it's okay for the forum. If a campaign manager disagrees, that's fine too. No amount of community pressure is going to change the ROI of an advertising campaign.

TL;DR Burst posting is fine, shitposting is not.

So you're saying my sarcastic reply wasn't sarcastic enough? :D
I mean, look at this guy (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=628.msg6508#msg6508), burst posting (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=615.msg6512#msg6512) 3 posts in just 13 minutes (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=612.msg6516#msg6516)! Obviously, he's just shilling for the coin he made up :D

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That seems fair enough :)

May I suggest a slight change? If you make it "Burstposting will not be paid", the campaign gets what it wants, and the user can post as it's convenient for him. It doesn't seem right to set a timer between posts, before making the exact same post as you would have made 10 minutes earlier.

In my opinion, that makes perfect sense. I would probably have told you the same :)

For the record, I wasn't trying to be a dick either ;) It just doesn't feel right to adjust your posting for a signature campaign.

Shouldn't this be something you check before accepting a participant? Ideally, the user would be able to keep doing what they were doing already, and that gives the right exposure.

My stance is the same too. Quality of post is more important but yahoo wrote about it already. He accepted those posts because of decent quality but he also emphasized that he need a longer interval between posts.

If a poster does not have a style like:
- Find topics to join discussions, then start to reply on those topics, time interval between posts should be 5 to 10 minutes. I believe it should be like this. Because it is not easy to find relevant topics to comment.

Spreading throughout a week is a fine and reasonable requirement.

Spreading throughout a day is not a solid requirement because one campaign has so many participants who are from different time zones. I believe this requirement if exists, is more related to post quality.

This.

Burst posting is not against the forum rules. PP's posts (regardless of timing) are not shitposts and in general are positive contributions (IMO) to the forum.

Asking someone to adjust the timing to fit the advertising needs may work for shitposters - they can easily smear their shit around in thin layers with no impact to the already abysmal quality. Asking a non-shitposter to do that is counter-productive, because they're usually replying when and where a reply is appropriate, whereas replying one hour later may no longer be relevant, result in repetitive posts, etc. I can't imagine that being any better for advertising but what do I know, maybe shitposting is good for advertising.

Yes, I'm aware that ChipMixer has the same rule and I think if I'm asked to adjust the timing of my posts then my response would be similar to PP's. However I always thought that burstposting rule was there to discourage users from trying to max out their quotas by making 50 posts late Friday, not to police their otherwise healthy posting habits for better ad exposure.

Well, I feel that the anti-BP should not apply provided the user continues to post on any other day of the week.

Perhaps set the cap to 5 daily? Anything more won't count for the day. Of course there will be those that try to max out on the 2nd, 3rd or 4th but it's up to the CMs to tally to what they feel suits them.

After all, shitposting or burstposting is still exposure so assuming I'm an advertiser, I'd love to retain my campaign on this forum as long as the ROI is good. Campaign manager gets paid, more brands are interested to advertise and they get the customers they want. Win-win.

The different arguments and points raised on this issue here is a bit confusing as it makes burstposting seem like shitposting in a way as quality and timing are discussed. Quality saves burst posting from shit posting and if the burst posts have quality they are not judged to be shit posts anymore? That is part of what I gathered. But it will be fine for the Yahoo62278 the manager to put a time gap between posts. That will make those who post in the campaign adjust their posting habit. Some managers in the past used to put timer like 30mins gap and I like that.

Well, first of all I have been hesitating whether to move this thread to the reputation section, but recently I put it on ignore and I guess it's better here, because when I opened the thread I didn't intend to focus so much on my specific situation but that this situation would serve to discuss what is an acceptable burst posting or not.


Probably earning $70 a week from signature campaigns is way more important for you than it is for me.

As a result of this, I have proposed to yahoo62278 to finish this week in the campaign and leave my place for someone else. It has been via PM but it is no secret. I think that the difference in vision was going to end with me leaving the campaign anyway, either me leaving or him kicking me out.


I have to say that I wasn't feeling very well yesterday, and the response was probably a bit more rude than it would have been if I had been fine. But yes, basically I have that way of writing, if you consider that it is negative for the campaign, the best thing is that we part ways.


This is not accurate. I do not have posting intervals of less than 5 minutes. And even less posting intervals of 1 minute between posts, except in very exceptional cases. 8-10 minutes when I'm active and I've just had a coffee are more normal.


I don't even know why you explain this because it doesn't apply to me. I am going to analyze the first week I was in the campaign.

I wrote the 7 days of the week, in those 7 days I wrote 29 posts. In some of them the time interval between posts was 5-10 minutes, like 7 or 8 posts. In the rest there were time intervals of 15, 20 minutes or hours. Not only in that week, but on a regular basis, I rarely write beyond page 5. The vast majority of my posts are written on the first or second page of threads, among other things because I think I know how advertising works.
 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5387753.msg59760513#msg59760513)

I also don't want to make it too long or focus on a personal discussion. I think yahoo62278 is a great asset to the forum, and that if we simply can't come to an agreement, the best thing to do is to stop working together.


That's exactly what I think and why I created this thread.


Because I don't want to focus the discussion on my particular case, but in general on burstposting and how tolerable it is or not in the forum in general. My case ends with me leaving the campaing in one way or another.


That's a ****ing shitposter, I've just put him on ignore.


That's exactly what I think. Sorry that I am out of merits, otherwise I would have given you a bunch.


I had the same idea.

With my backseat-mod-hat on, strictly speaking, I would have had the discussion within the topic for the campaign itself.  Although, granted, it would likely not have received the same level of attention as it's had here.  But as you're leaving the campaign anyway, it's likely a moot point now.

I can see both sides of the argument, but ultimately it boils down to a difference of opinion.  It's not something I'd expect the forum or staff to intervene on.  Not a Meta-matter, IMHO.

I read everything posted in the topic. In fact I read it from the start to finish just half an hour ago on my phone. Now logged in just to make a response. May be after this post I will make few more posts before going back to my usual routine.

PP eventually you fooled a lot of users LOL. It was a smart move to test many more things than just to find the burst posting. But let's leave everything else behind. Let's talk about burst posting.

I was actually looking at your post intervals yesterday before making my first comment but it did not seem to me burst posting even though I saw somewhere like 8 to 10 or 15 minutes (I fucking don't have time to check again LOL) interval between some posts. Since my understanding of burst posting is shit-post one after another in different threads in x amount of time to fulfill signature quota but I did not see the shit-post in your posts so, I really was not sure if you were trying to show your post history.

Honestly speaking I have the same posting habit like you. Just few weeks ago I left one campaign because I was not able to fulfill their weekly quota to post in gambling section. I volunteered to leave the campaign. Both manager and I are happy. Manager expects me to join some other campaign where he will be able to give me more flexibility once it will be available for him. And the few weeks ago one was not the only one that happened with me. I left many campaign where at some point I found it's not going in my way. I even have several long gaps in activity, sometimes it's several months long several times. I take leave from the place when I feel not right.

There are a lot of us who do the same. They do not care about when and what they are posting. They care to post when they feel there are something for them to talk. The earning from signature for them are a bonus just as a side product.

Both you and yahoo62278 are seeing this from two different perspective. As a manager yahoo62278's main concern is to get maximum ROI of the campaigns he is managing. I don't think you both should have hurt feeling towards each others. I can imagine that the PM he left was without having much thought in it.

But it would be nice if yahoo62278 reconsider his view in burst posting. One user above (I am too lazy to find the post and name to bring exact words) said something like:
Don't count the post that you think is burst posting in your terms but again don't consider all posts those have small interval of time even less than five minutes as long as it's on topic and have quality contribution.

After making this post, I may find a topic where I feel like five words are enough to response the conversation. If I do that and if the interval between this post and the next post is 3 minutes then would you say I should unnecessarily make the post longer to make it 300 words and wait half an hour to post it? I am positive that you will not demand it. The best you will do it to ignore the next post from the post counting for the week. But you can not accuse me for making shit post just because it was 5 words long and 3 minutes after the last post.

I don't think either of us have any ill feelings towards each other. This thread has been a healthy discussion with quite a few respectable members contributing to the conversation. I wouldn't look for a war to start just because someone had a different opinion then mine. It's called life, we all think differently.

No, we don't. From now on we can continue discussions about burstposting as fellow forum members instead of as a kind of employee and employer.

I suppose that my decision to leave the campaign is influenced by my financial situation. If I am going to be participating in the forum, I would rather get paid for doing so than not getting paid, but the income I receive from signature campaings is a small amount compared to my total income, so leaving the campaign is not a big deal.

Although my intention with the thread was to talk about burstposting in general, after the responses and a little healthy debate, I am going to lock it, as the thread is very focused on my case. If anyone wants to, they can open another thread about burstposting and maybe refer to this one. Or if anyone thinks it is necessary, you can PM me so that I unlock it.

I have decided to unlock this thread because I happened to find another burstposter here: Profile. (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=459836)

LOL.  ;D

Yesterday he wrote 22 posts.

Between 08:38:08 AM and 12:16:14 PM he wrote 12 of them, so I guess if he worked for yahoo62278, he would have problems. The rest that are from the thread update "Complete overview of users on DT1 and DT2 and their ratings (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5139250.msg61163693#msg61163693)" I don't take them into account. But he wrote quite a few with a time separation between posts quite similar to mine.

I am commenting this because I was amused when I realized it. It is not my intention to enter into any angry controversy but to discuss what is considered burstposting in a negative sense in the forum. It is clear that each manager is free to set their rules and users to accept them or not.

25! Or 26 (https://loyce.club/active/)?

Lol. I'm pretty sure DS is smart enough not to count those weekly updates.

It took you long enough :P Saturday is my "update day" because theymos' Trust data dump happens on Saturday morning (and the Merit data dump a day earlier).

Who's angry? ;)

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I actually thought about "burst posting" after I made this post:
When I closed that tab, I noticed I hadn't posted my other post yet:
So there's 36 seconds in between. I don't type 19 characters per second, but it was enough time to proofread the post again.

what's he gonna do? report himself? check the link he shared, Poker Player is talking about himself. he even updated by posting another guy's profile who is notorious for burst posting(check the post above to know who he is). anyway, burst posting is not really against forum rules, so even if you saw a user who is burst posting and reported the user, there is no guarantee that the user's posts will be deleted.

Actually if you just open this particular board you can see that he already has like 5 topics.  :P

And the next day, that user made no posts at all. Coincidence? Up to you to decide!

I've reported that post you are quoting as 0 value post. Either he has not read anything or he has not understood anything, and it seems to me that it is the former.


The point is not so much to decide anything as it confirms my suspicions about him being a burstposter. He writes 25 posts in one day and the next day none. I'm even thinking of putting him on my ignore list.

On a more serious note, I think a few of us in the thread have agreed that burstposting in a negative sense is basically linked to low quality posts.

People who spread their posts over at least 5 or 6 days a week, and whose posts have a certain quality, even if 30% of their posts have an average separation of 10 minutes between them cannot be considered burstposters in a negative sense.

Another thing is the particular rules of each campaign. For example, mine counts a maximum of 5 posts per day. It is a way to make sure that the minimum to get paid is going to be written at least in 4 days. Another thing is that I write more posts in this and other campaigns that I know I will not get paid.


I wasn't thinking of you.