Bitcoin Forum

Being on a DT Network is more demanding than becoming a Moderator/staff. I know it's not easy for someone to be a Moderator. I also believe moderators maintain many things, including how they will react to posts. I rarely see them tagging anyone. Moderators do their job with a lot of responsibility. But, When it comes to a DT member who is mentally sick, It's like a nuclear bomb. These DT members rule the forum.

What positive contribution does he make to the forum?

naim027 (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1187984)

To lift the ban was a mistake but I can understand it because we all make mistakes. However, not to permaban him and his alts it's an even bigger mistake.

What positive contribution does he make to the forum?

Nothing. He lies, manipulates, makes people believe he is a good person and a victim of circumstances while he breaks all the rules. Today he is lecturing people in the Reputation Section:

There are many reasons to ban him, but mostly that he ban evaded repeatedly. Anyway, I am sure he will create new alts and farm them up, but at least it will cost him time and effort. And I hope he's dumb enough to get caught again.

This is almost like cryptohunter 2.0, the only difference is that he didn't red-paint everyone (yet), so the only thing we can do is wait him out until he gets bored and leaves (possibly multiple times under different accounts).

If he should be banned not because of what Poker player said. No one gets banned by expressing their opinions.
I have seen people like smoker face, paperwallet, Bitcoin SV and others express themselves as they like and they don't get banned.

OMG 😱
I can't believe my eyes rn. So y'all mean that Anotheralt is Naim's alt?? Cryt0S0ul too? Gosh..!!!! I mean, didn't he pretend to be scam-busting with cryt0S0ul? Reporting cases similar to his, flaunting this board with series of suspicions and peeps stood by his discretions? Ohhhhh C'm onnn..
That dude evaded his ban and created an alt, with which he Applied in rollbit, roobet? ^{or maybe I'm lost somewhere??}. I haven't really seen cases like this; where users are ghastly ungrateful,...that which has prompted him into an incredulous dissatisfaction. Look, I read that scrapped junk; was he trying to be more unpleasant or ....uhm.. something?? Why did he falsify the whole thing in the first place? ...and why did he decide to let everyone know his nefariousness now? When the cat had been let outta the sack already? .... This gon' be Incessantly driven. Needless to permaban those accounts .

Sandra 💇

He should be banned for repeatedly violating the forum rules by ban evading (while begging for an unban of his main account).

I remember noticing Crypt0S0ul from the Reputation section. These are some of the topics he started:

Does He evade Ban? Is It Sufficient Proof? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5412229.msg60877142#msg60877142)
Three Connected Accounts || FanEagle - darewaller - Captain Corporate (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5411625.msg60849331#msg60849331)
Need Community Feedback About Exposing Old Accounts (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5410699.msg60795491#msg60795491)
tomos81 Changed Hands? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5410528.msg60784363#msg60784363)
CPNpr Changed Hands? (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5410299.msg60772613#msg60772613)
Merit Abuser || Bounty Cheater || Alt farmar (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5402089.msg60328556#msg60328556)

And all this while he was ban evading himself. I think it says enough about the kind of person he is.

Naim027 had a negative review before this whole story. But very influential people were on his side and did not believe ;D, or even wanted to believe, that he was a very twisty snake who could lie with eye contact and without blinking. In such cases, you need to deviate from the rules and assess the situation in full. It's a shame that this idiot managed to fool so many. And do not flatter yourself with the thought that he will leave the forum. I am sure that he already has clean alternate accounts that he will carefully hide. Being such a hardened liar is a calling, and the forum will have to endure it until Naim027 himself gets tired of it.

I'm surprised you have trust in him, The Pharmacist. I had it and stopped having it in view of the evidence, but I respect your opinion.

Naim027 had a negative review before this whole story. But very influential people were on his side and did not believe ;D, or even wanted to believe, that he was a very twisty snake who could lie with eye contact and without blinking. In such cases, you need to deviate from the rules and assess the situation in full. It's a shame that this idiot managed to fool so many. And do not flatter yourself with the thought that he will leave the forum. I am sure that he already has clean alternate accounts that he will carefully hide. Being such a hardened liar is a calling, and the forum will have to endure it until Naim027 himself gets tired of it.

Well, better late than never. He fooled me too, although I stopped believing in him when others were still defending him. You can see that he has a special ability to manipulate people.

But as I said, we all make mistakes, the important thing is to realize it and correct it.

It is clear that by now both theymos and the moderators have seen this thread, and for some reason have not banned him again.

I am not going to insist too much, because it is clear to me that according to the forum rules he should be banned again and that unban him was a mistake. This is not a case of scams, which are not moderated in the forum. It is a case of clear and repeated breaking of the rules.

If they are not going to ban him again, there must be some reason that they could explain, but it seems to me that this is going to be another case like those of plagiarism in which people ask a lot of questions and there is no answer.

It is clear that by now both theymos and the moderators have seen this thread, and for some reason have not banned him again.

I am not going to insist too much, because it is clear to me that according to the forum rules he should be banned again and that unban him was a mistake. This is not a case of scams, which are not moderated in the forum. It is a case of clear and repeated breaking of the rules.

If they are not going to ban him again, there must be some reason that they could explain, but it seems to me that this is going to be another case like those of plagiarism in which people ask a lot of questions and there is no answer.

I have no idea why naim027 and his alt-accounts have not been banned but there might be reasons why action has not been taken by moderators. We cannot be sure who has seen the thread and who has not.

Since it was hilariousandco that unbanned him (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5399515.msg61106468#msg61106468), maybe it will be an idea to contact him directly to review his decision.

Are any of his alt account evading ban? I didn't quite follow up this case. Maybe the Mod is as confused as I am. Chil me in. Last time I checked, the Mods hardly ever gave explanations; they only took actions. I still have a lot of reports unhandled, but I understand they are human, so I stopped asking for explanations and just kept reporting..

I have no idea why naim027 and his alt-accounts have not been banned but there might be reasons why action has not been taken by moderators. We cannot be sure who has seen the thread and who has not.

It is clear that by now both theymos and the moderators have seen this thread, and for some reason have not banned him again.

I am not going to insist too much, because it is clear to me that according to the forum rules he should be banned again and that unban him was a mistake. This is not a case of scams, which are not moderated in the forum. It is a case of clear and repeated breaking of the rules.

If they are not going to ban him again, there must be some reason that they could explain, but it seems to me that this is going to be another case like those of plagiarism in which people ask a lot of questions and there is no answer.

<...>

Well, Everything is clean now.
After being exposed, the confession has zero value.
This is not only a confession but also an explanation of the story. Yes, I own all four accounts. I was Evading a ban. I tried to pretend like a new user. But I am a chilling guy who doesn't take Everything seriously. I had one account, which is this one. I created this account back in 2017. There was a time I forgot my username and created one more account, which is CryptoS0ul. It has IP ban/Evil Points, and I never logged in on that account. After I returned to the forum in 2021. I saw people have multiple accounts, and it's allowed. So, why not create another account since it's allowed? I created a Dic3l0v3r account and exchanged some merits without knowing that it's not allowed to merit your alts. Which I stopped immediately after I saw it was not allowed. After a couple of months, I accidentally exposed my alt and got two Negative feedback from DT Members to both my account. After a healthy discussion, DT members removed the tag from my naim027 account, and Dic3l0v3r still had the tag. So, its reputation is ruined.

After a few days, I thought to create AnotherAlt since Dic3l0v3r has a Negative tag. I created it and paid evil fees as well. I started posting with that account. After a few weeks, a member reported my plagiarized post, and I got perm banned. Those posts were made in my newbie days, and I was unaware of the rules. I created a ban appeal thread and got some community support, while others opposed it. I have sent too many emails to theymos and others. I knocked them on Discord and everywhere I know. I got no reply from Administration. At that time, I lost hope and thought I wouldn't get unbanned anymore. While I was trying to explain to the community what had happened. Some forum members were attacking me personally on the ban appeal thread. I was frustrated and thought I could keep posting with AnotherAlt and see what happened. I had many things to learn from the community, and I used anotheralt to learn some technical things about bitcoin and Bitcoin Full node/core and other things. I knew that I was evading the ban. I never thought I would get unbanned since no Mods responded to me anywhere. I was hopeless. That was the reason for the Ban Evading.

Sorry for lying. I was trying to deny everything not to get banned again. But I am not smart enough like others. I can't pretend like someone else. I am mine. Being me gives me inner peace. I feel guilty for what I did. In the meantime, I am not looking for sympathy from the community. I want to face the truth and reality. I can sleep much better now.

I never thought I would get unbanned. When I saw Cyrus knew about my ban Appeal, I was already evading the ban. Special thanks to Cyrus.

Now, maybe a stupid question, but did naim027 ever admit that those were his alt accounts? Maybe the moderators don't find the evidence convincing enough?
In any case, it would be nice if one of the moderators clarified this situation.

If the moderators still haven't banned it, maybe they're thinking further than that. Walking around with the yoke of a scoundrel and a liar can be much worse than just walking away. Everyone knows his personality, and I think no one will fall for his speeches. Everything that he does not write on the forum will be perceived as an extra confirmation of his personality and proof of his negative tags. Plus, with his shallow soul, he's bound to show up with a different profile; do we need more Naim027?

Bump.

Is anyone going to give any explanation as to why this scum is still freely on the forum without being permabanned? I guess not.

I want to remind people he repeatedly broke the rules including the one about using alts while he was banned, which we found out shortly after he was unbanned.

Bump.

Is anyone going to give any explanation as to why this scum is still freely on the forum without being permabanned? I guess not.

I want to remind people he repeatedly broke the rules including the one about using alts while he was banned, which we found out shortly after he was unbanned.

I guess it is about the usual time moderators take to review cases? (We just ended a Christmas season, btw)
I have noticed it may take some time to give a look on individual cases of bans and appeals, and I don't blame them, moderation work can be harsh.

There is also a little chance that whoever is in charge on this case in particular believes the red tags are enough of a punishment, in the end, even if he was banned, nothing would stop a banned user to use a new alt account.

I just feel @hilariousandco is taking his sweet lil time before he'd do the needful.

There is also a little chance that whoever is in charge on this case in particular believes the red tags are enough of a punishment, in the end, even if he was banned, nothing would stop a banned user to use a new alt account.

Some are so dumb that they use the same IP, the same addresses or show other evidence that makes it easy to catch them.

-snip-

-snip-

I guess it is about the usual time moderators take to review cases? (We just ended a Christmas season, btw)
I have noticed it may take some time to give a look on individual cases of bans and appeals, and I don't blame them, moderation work can be harsh.

There is also a little chance that whoever is in charge on this case in particular believes the red tags are enough of a punishment, in the end, even if he was banned, nothing would stop a banned user to use a new alt account.

Honestly, this is a piss poor excuse for administration/moderators. It would take 1 hour max to review this case. The guy admitted his alts and ban evasion, CASE CLOSED. They fucked up unbanning him and don't wanna look foolish, or just being lazy about it.

Why does everyone act like admins and mods are toooooo busy and running multi billion dollar corporations? Most are regular people not too busy doing much of anything.

Bump.


I agree 100%.

Mods, theymos, we are still waiting for a reply on why the rules have not been applied in this case. He is now engaged, again, in trying to manipulate people in the Reputation section. As if it wasn't enough that when he gets banned he continues to create alts, to leave his main account active and go around messing around even more.

Honestly, this is a piss poor excuse for administration/moderators. It would take 1 hour max to review this case. The guy admitted his alts and ban evasion, CASE CLOSED. They fucked up unbanning him and don't wanna look foolish, or just being lazy about it.

Bump.


I agree 100%.

Mods, theymos, we are still waiting for a reply on why the rules have not been applied in this case. He is now engaged, again, in trying to manipulate people in the Reputation section. As if it wasn't enough that when he gets banned he continues to create alts, to leave his main account active and go around messing around even more.

++++++++++100
This guy is one of the biggest scammers and I feel it would be some time he would come up with another alt account. The problem we would encounter at that time would be to determine whether those alts are related to this individual. It is high time that the BMs rethink before hiring someone from that local board.

Although there are so many threads of Naim027 and his alts recently, but I have never seen any allegations that he scammed someone.

Apart from this thread, I have also read where BlackHatCoiner requested that franky1 be banned but nothing has happened.

Either way, the issue here is ban evasion with alt accounts.  Perhaps the moderators don't think there's enough evidence to link naim023 to John Abraham (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2589230) and any other account(s) believed to be connected to him?  The blockchain transactions were proof enough for me, but mods might choose to be extremely prudent when making a judgement like that.  I don't know, but I'd really like to hear one or more of them chime in.

He's not being accused of plagiarism or ban evasion AFAIK, just being very loud with his opinions, and there's been talk of him spreading misinformation--and correct me if I'm wrong, as I haven't been following that drama.  I seriously doubt franky1 is going to get banned if it comes down to an issue of free speech.  Trolling and spamming are actionable offenses, but I don't think he's doing either of those.

Why is this thread still in the Meta board?

Where do you think a thread asking for a ban should be?

This is not a thread about naim027's reputation

it is a thread asking for the ban of someone who ban evaded with several alts when he was banned, of which there is no doubt, as he confessed it himself.

That was the initial intention of the thread. I have now moved on to asking for explanations as to why the rules are not being followed in such a blatant case, the silence for an answer being embarrassing.

It seems you have already figured out where I think this thread belongs.

The unofficial rules don't really specify what offenses qualify for a ban, so this is a subjective opinion at best.

...but this thread can be seen as an embarrassment from another perspective:  At least 5 of the last 20 threads you've started are on the subject of Royse777 and/or his cohorts.  I think you may be spending too much time on the subject, and it's looking very much like you have a vendetta.

Go a create a new topic about it. You will have me there.

That qualification you make when you join Royse777 "and/or his cohorts" is a subjective opinion at best.

Sorry, I don't know what this statement means. 

Regarding this, first: have you noticed that our discussions are of no interest to anyone?  :D

it is your subjective opinion.

Somethings to say, first of all i think the forum NEEDS to ban the Naims account the most fast as possible because he is going to make new accounts (or maybe he has a few more in the shadows) and its gonna send all the smerits remaining in that accounts to the farm.

I think they are exploiting the generosity of some users, we can see a ton of accounts from the south asian (indonesia/Bangladesh) and Nigeria, who are making this movement of multiplir between them the merits.

First they have some good or primary account, who took merits from serious post, second their have a secondary account or third account and when a pizza or pumpking event appears they op up and collect all the merits in a big ammount from very reputed merits sources.
After that they go to the "ladder" of local board and redistribuied the merits between them.

So like Naim are a few guys behind some accounts.

How you can detect them? Easy, you can see they have a very low activity but a very high merits (they have like 1 activity 1 merit rate). And when you see from where that merits comes its allways the same, pizza BTC or events related, local boards redistribution of merits, beg for merits on the threads when you can put your best posts/threads and received merits to reach X rank.

Obviusly im not putting all in the same box, i know we have some very usefull users here who makes a big effort and really good post, but for example the account of LDL i was following that account for farming a lot of merits, and ended up being one more account of naim......

So in resume their break the rule of not share merits between your own accounts and also exploit the generosity of the communitty to give them merits in the contests.