Please permaban naim027

[Poker Player]

naim027

To lift the ban was a mistake but I can understand it because we all make mistakes. However, not to permaban him and his alts it's an even bigger mistake.

What positive contribution does he make to the forum?

Nothing. He lies, manipulates, makes people believe he is a good person and a victim of circumstances while he breaks all the rules. Today he is lecturing people in the Reputation Section:

Being on a DT Network is more demanding than becoming a Moderator/staff. I know it's not easy for someone to be a Moderator. I also believe moderators maintain many things, including how they will react to posts. I rarely see them tagging anyone. Moderators do their job with a lot of responsibility. But, When it comes to a DT member who is mentally sick, It's like a nuclear bomb. These DT members rule the forum.

There are many reasons to ban him, but mostly that he ban evaded repeatedly. Anyway, I am sure he will create new alts and farm them up, but at least it will cost him time and effort. And I hope he's dumb enough to get caught again.

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[NotATether]

This is almost like cryptohunter 2.0, the only difference is that he didn't red-paint everyone (yet), so the only thing we can do is wait him out until he gets bored and leaves (possibly multiple times under different accounts).

[LoyceV]

@hilariousandco: you unbanned him, and no doubt didn't know about his ban evasion. Can you right the wrong of unbanning the ban-evader? Letting him get away with this gives the wrong idea to others.
And while you're at it, shouldn't the alt-accounts that were used for ban evasion be banned too? Those are Crypt0S0ul and AnotherAlt.

[dkbit98]

What positive contribution does he make to the forum?

I didn't notice any positive forum contribution from him, only thing he got was personal financial benefits.
I never understood why member who was unbanned was so hard to ban again by moderators, but this happened several times before.
Let's not bring cases I reported before, but I remember showing all the proof of members doing multiple ban evasion, and admins never banned him/them.
In case of naim027, he should be banned with all of his altaccounts, and I am not saying this with any hate towards him, it's just time for him to move on with his design work in some other places.

[JollyGood]

naim027

To lift the ban was a mistake but I can understand it because we all make mistakes. However, not to permaban him and his alts it's an even bigger mistake.

I am glad a thread like this was made. I was thinking of compiling some links and so on to start a thread but you got there first.

I think all his known alt-accounts should be permanently banned: AnotherAlt, Crypt0S0ul, naim027, Dic3L0v3r

Yes it was, he should never have been unbanned but when he was using his alt-accounts to pump that unban request thread over and over, one of the moderators unbanned him and it sends out all the wrong signals.

What positive contribution does he make to the forum?

None, he is a complete waste of space.

Nothing. He lies, manipulates, makes people believe he is a good person and a victim of circumstances while he breaks all the rules. Today he is lecturing people in the Reputation Section:

Exactly, I read that post too. The man is a compulsive liar with serious issues.

There are many reasons to ban him, but mostly that he ban evaded repeatedly. Anyway, I am sure he will create new alts and farm them up, but at least it will cost him time and effort. And I hope he's dumb enough to get caught again.

He is too selfish and a compulsive liar therefore he will slip up and his other alt-accounts will be linked. It is quite clear he has more accounts but will they be given the time to build up and do what he primarily wants, which is to join signature campaigns.

This is almost like cryptohunter 2.0, the only difference is that he didn't red-paint everyone (yet), so the only thing we can do is wait him out until he gets bored and leaves (possibly multiple times under different accounts).

The desire on his part to join a signature campaign using multiple accounts seems to be the driving factor for him even if he has to try to lie, lie and lie again to try to get out of his own web of deceit.

He seems very determined to hang around for as long as possible and he has been logging in using more than just his naim027 account but if he ever did leave I have no doubt he would be posting inconsequential nonsense on an industrial scale before running off.

[uchegod-21]

If I am a moderator, I will not bother myself to ban his accounts because I feel that the accounts are already useless.
The accounts cannot join any campaign.
The accounts cannot do business because they have more than 7 red tags each of them.
The only thing the person using the accounts will do is to become a troll and be attacking people. How long can he do? He will soon get tired and will abandon the accounts.

If he should be banned not because of what Poker player said. No one gets banned by expressing their opinions.
I have seen people like smoker face, paperwallet, Bitcoin SV and others express themselves as they like and they don't get banned.

[Sandra_hakeem]

OMG 😱
I can't believe my eyes rn. So y'all mean that Anotheralt is Naim's alt?? Cryt0S0ul too? Gosh..!!!! I mean, didn't he pretend to be scam-busting with cryt0S0ul? Reporting cases similar to his, flaunting this board with series of suspicions and peeps stood by his discretions? Ohhhhh C'm onnn..
That dude evaded his ban and created an alt, with which he Applied in rollbit, roobet? ^{or maybe I'm lost somewhere??}. I haven't really seen cases like this; where users are ghastly ungrateful,...that which has prompted him into an incredulous dissatisfaction. Look, I read that scrapped junk; was he trying to be more unpleasant or ....uhm.. something?? Why did he falsify the whole thing in the first place? ...and why did he decide to let everyone know his nefariousness now? When the cat had been let outta the sack already? .... This gon' be Incessantly driven. Needless to permaban those accounts .

Sandra 💇

[decodx]

If he should be banned not because of what Poker player said. No one gets banned by expressing their opinions.
I have seen people like smoker face, paperwallet, Bitcoin SV and others express themselves as they like and they don't get banned.

He should be banned for repeatedly violating the forum rules by ban evading (while begging for an unban of his main account).

I remember noticing Crypt0S0ul from the Reputation section. These are some of the topics he started:

Does He evade Ban? Is It Sufficient Proof?
Three Connected Accounts || FanEagle - darewaller - Captain Corporate
Need Community Feedback About Exposing Old Accounts
tomos81 Changed Hands?
CPNpr Changed Hands?
Merit Abuser || Bounty Cheater || Alt farmar

And all this while he was ban evading himself. I think it says enough about the kind of person he is.

[JollyGood]

OMG 😱
I can't believe my eyes rn. So y'all mean that Anotheralt is Naim's alt?? Cryt0S0ul too? Gosh..!!!! I mean, didn't he pretend to be scam-busting with cryt0S0ul? Reporting cases similar to his, flaunting this board with series of suspicions and peeps stood by his discretions? Ohhhhh C'm onnn..
That dude evaded his ban and created an alt, with which he Applied in rollbit, roobet? ^{or maybe I'm lost somewhere??}. I haven't really seen cases like this; where users are ghastly ungrateful,...that which has prompted him into an incredulous dissatisfaction. Look, I read that scrapped junk; was he trying to be more unpleasant or ....uhm.. something?? Why did he falsify the whole thing in the first place? ...and why did he decide to let everyone know his nefariousness now? When the cat had been let outta the sack already? .... This gon' be Incessantly driven. Needless to permaban those accounts .

Sandra 💇

Please do not be too surprised because many things have happened in this forum over the years, it is all part of the drama. Yes he did pretend to catch alt-accounts belonging to other users but that was part of the facade to fool people in to thinking he was a regular member with no ulterior motive.

It is clear that skulduggery, threats, cliques, trolls, scams, scammers, alt-accounts and sock-puppets along with attention-seeking hate-driven lowlifes have infested the forum but there are also members here that are countering them because they are genuine, helpful, informative and generous.

Put this is way, if one day the signature campaigns are removed from the forum, there will probably be just a tiny minority that will frequent here.

No matter how much the naim027 denied it, the reality was he was only in this forum (just like the vast majority) to join signature campaigns. Along with naim027, it was confirmed he used AnotherAlt, Crypt0S0ul, and the aptly named Dic3L0v3r too. There are probably others which will come to light soon.

I agree with you, the known accounts should be banned. The OP has already started this thread asking for naim027 to be banned but I would go further and ask for all of his known alt-accounts to be banned. If this thread gains enough momentum and gets spotted by a moderator, there is a possibility all 4 known accounts could be banned.

If he should be banned not because of what Poker player said. No one gets banned by expressing their opinions.
I have seen people like smoker face, paperwallet, Bitcoin SV and others express themselves as they like and they don't get banned.

He should be banned for repeatedly violating the forum rules by ban evading (while begging for an unban of his main account).

I remember noticing Crypt0S0ul from the Reputation section. These are some of the topics he started:

Does He evade Ban? Is It Sufficient Proof?
Three Connected Accounts || FanEagle - darewaller - Captain Corporate
Need Community Feedback About Exposing Old Accounts
tomos81 Changed Hands?
CPNpr Changed Hands?
Merit Abuser || Bounty Cheater || Alt farmar

And all this while he was ban evading himself. I think it says enough about the kind of person he is.

That is an excellent collection of the threads you listed, thank you.

He created those threads to gain support and respectability, it goes to show exactly what lengths naim027 would go to in order to try to fool people when he was trying to catch alt-accounts of other members. What cannot be denied is that naim027 is a compulsive liar and a drama queen and by using alt-accounts to ban evade it really should mean all his known alt-accounts should be banned permanently.

[lovesmayfamilis]

Naim027 had a negative review before this whole story. But very influential people were on his side and did not believe , or even wanted to believe, that he was a very twisty snake who could lie with eye contact and without blinking. In such cases, you need to deviate from the rules and assess the situation in full. It's a shame that this idiot managed to fool so many. And do not flatter yourself with the thought that he will leave the forum. I am sure that he already has clean alternate accounts that he will carefully hide. Being such a hardened liar is a calling, and the forum will have to endure it until Naim027 himself gets tired of it.

[Poker Player]

Naim027 had a negative review before this whole story. But very influential people were on his side and did not believe , or even wanted to believe, that he was a very twisty snake who could lie with eye contact and without blinking. In such cases, you need to deviate from the rules and assess the situation in full. It's a shame that this idiot managed to fool so many. And do not flatter yourself with the thought that he will leave the forum. I am sure that he already has clean alternate accounts that he will carefully hide. Being such a hardened liar is a calling, and the forum will have to endure it until Naim027 himself gets tired of it.

Well, better late than never. He fooled me too, although I stopped believing in him when others were still defending him. You can see that he has a special ability to manipulate people.

In his ban appeal thread we can see how I stopped believing in him:

• Quote from: icopress on July 22, 2022, 01:56:02 AM
  He could easily create a new account and not tell anyone about it, and he could keep the money for himself. But he didn't.

You do not know if he has created another account and is building it up with another IP, apart from trying to recover this one. You have no way of checking.

Btw icopress did he write you a PM to come to this thread to give your opinion? Because he has written to me, and I doubt I am the only one he has written to. I also doubt if it is even allowed to send these PMs when you have been banned.

I'm surprised you have trust in him, The Pharmacist. I had it and stopped having it in view of the evidence, but I respect your opinion.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5399515.msg60608570#msg60608570

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5399515.msg60619902#msg60619902

But as I said, we all make mistakes, the important thing is to realize it and correct it.

[JollyGood]

Naim027 had a negative review before this whole story. But very influential people were on his side and did not believe , or even wanted to believe, that he was a very twisty snake who could lie with eye contact and without blinking. In such cases, you need to deviate from the rules and assess the situation in full. It's a shame that this idiot managed to fool so many. And do not flatter yourself with the thought that he will leave the forum. I am sure that he already has clean alternate accounts that he will carefully hide. Being such a hardened liar is a calling, and the forum will have to endure it until Naim027 himself gets tired of it.

You made a very appropriately worded post. I think you were the first to tag him red and that was a long time back very around in early 2022 and that was for merit abuse. Am I right?

The problem with some of the so-called influential people you refer to is that half of the time they are like sheep, they listen to one narrative and because it is repeated again and again they tend to believe it. The other times, they tend to push an agenda because it gives them some of control regardless of how much they believe in it.

And yes, I agree with you when you say he is already using clean accounts because with him being a compulsive liar and a greedy individual he will not be able to keep away as he aims to join more signature campaigns.

Well, better late than never. He fooled me too, although I stopped believing in him when others were still defending him. You can see that he has a special ability to manipulate people.

I mostly took his comments with caution but it was clear there were many vouching for him in his ban appeal thread that was created by his aptly named Dic3L0v3r alt-account. I never understood why there was that level the sympathy and sentiment as well as goodwill shown by some members towards naim027 and his alt-accounts. Some of those members were (as lovesmayfamilis called them) very influential people and they were also duped by him.

But as I said, we all make mistakes, the important thing is to realize it and correct it.

You took appropriate steps as you saw fit to correct what you saw as a mistake and nobody should hold that against you. Now that you have started this thread I hope it gains enough traction which would lead on to a permanent ban for all his known accounts:

naim027
AnotherAlt
Crypt0S0ul
and the aptly named Dic3L0v3r

[Poker Player]

It is clear that by now both theymos and the moderators have seen this thread, and for some reason have not banned him again.

I am not going to insist too much, because it is clear to me that according to the forum rules he should be banned again and that unban him was a mistake. This is not a case of scams, which are not moderated in the forum. It is a case of clear and repeated breaking of the rules.

If they are not going to ban him again, there must be some reason that they could explain, but it seems to me that this is going to be another case like those of plagiarism in which people ask a lot of questions and there is no answer.

[JollyGood]

I have no idea why naim027 and his alt-accounts have not been banned but there might be reasons why action has not been taken by moderators. We cannot be sure who has seen the thread and who has not.

Since it was hilariousandco that unbanned him, maybe it will be an idea to contact him directly to review his decision.

It is clear that by now both theymos and the moderators have seen this thread, and for some reason have not banned him again.

I am not going to insist too much, because it is clear to me that according to the forum rules he should be banned again and that unban him was a mistake. This is not a case of scams, which are not moderated in the forum. It is a case of clear and repeated breaking of the rules.

If they are not going to ban him again, there must be some reason that they could explain, but it seems to me that this is going to be another case like those of plagiarism in which people ask a lot of questions and there is no answer.

[Igebotz]

It is clear that by now both theymos and the moderators have seen this thread, and for some reason have not banned him again.

I am not going to insist too much, because it is clear to me that according to the forum rules he should be banned again and that unban him was a mistake. This is not a case of scams, which are not moderated in the forum. It is a case of clear and repeated breaking of the rules.

If they are not going to ban him again, there must be some reason that they could explain, but it seems to me that this is going to be another case like those of plagiarism in which people ask a lot of questions and there is no answer.

Are any of his alt account evading ban? I didn't quite follow up this case. Maybe the Mod is as confused as I am. Chil me in. Last time I checked, the Mods hardly ever gave explanations; they only took actions. I still have a lot of reports unhandled, but I understand they are human, so I stopped asking for explanations and just kept reporting..
 

I have no idea why naim027 and his alt-accounts have not been banned but there might be reasons why action has not been taken by moderators. We cannot be sure who has seen the thread and who has not.

Since it was hilariousandco that unbanned him, maybe it will be an idea to contact him directly to review his decision.

No topic in the Meta get passed theymos and the moderators. I have no doubt that hilariousandco is aware of this issue and has made a decision or is still debating it. However, I concur that sending a PM as you suggested is perfectly acceptable.

[Hispo]

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Are any of his alt account evading ban? I didn't quite follow up this case. Maybe the Mod is as confused as I am. Chil me in. Last time I checked, the Mods hardly ever gave explanations; they only took actions. I still have a lot of reports unhandled, but I understand they are human, so I stopped asking for explanations and just kept reporting..

If you want to have a good enough idea of what happened you can just check this thread from some days ago.

I stumbled on it by pure chance while I was lurking around and what I thought it would be a friendly welcoming thread turned into an investigation one full of drama, a huge plot twist. It is a pity, in my opinion.

I am afraid this case in particular will make harder for other people (who may actually be worth a second chance) to get unbanned after waiting months for their case to be reviewed.

[Poker Player]

I have no idea why naim027 and his alt-accounts have not been banned but there might be reasons why action has not been taken by moderators. We cannot be sure who has seen the thread and who has not.

Well. A thread in Meta with the word "scumbag" in the title, I'm pretty sure it's been seen by most of them, including theymos.

[NotATether]

It is clear that by now both theymos and the moderators have seen this thread, and for some reason have not banned him again.

I am not going to insist too much, because it is clear to me that according to the forum rules he should be banned again and that unban him was a mistake. This is not a case of scams, which are not moderated in the forum. It is a case of clear and repeated breaking of the rules.

If they are not going to ban him again, there must be some reason that they could explain, but it seems to me that this is going to be another case like those of plagiarism in which people ask a lot of questions and there is no answer.

Give them a few days. It's common for people to open a forum thread only to reply to it much later (if at all) because of a busy schedule. I know I do that sometimes, so I wouldn't be surprised if that's how hilariousandco is as well.

[Stalker22]

Now, maybe a stupid question, but did naim027 ever admit that those were his alt accounts? Maybe the moderators don't find the evidence convincing enough?
In any case, it would be nice if one of the moderators clarified this situation.

[Cantsay]

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Yes, he did.

Well, Everything is clean now.
After being exposed, the confession has zero value.
This is not only a confession but also an explanation of the story. Yes, I own all four accounts. I was Evading a ban. I tried to pretend like a new user. But I am a chilling guy who doesn't take Everything seriously. I had one account, which is this one. I created this account back in 2017. There was a time I forgot my username and created one more account, which is CryptoS0ul. It has IP ban/Evil Points, and I never logged in on that account. After I returned to the forum in 2021. I saw people have multiple accounts, and it's allowed. So, why not create another account since it's allowed? I created a Dic3l0v3r account and exchanged some merits without knowing that it's not allowed to merit your alts. Which I stopped immediately after I saw it was not allowed. After a couple of months, I accidentally exposed my alt and got two Negative feedback from DT Members to both my account. After a healthy discussion, DT members removed the tag from my naim027 account, and Dic3l0v3r still had the tag. So, its reputation is ruined.

After a few days, I thought to create AnotherAlt since Dic3l0v3r has a Negative tag. I created it and paid evil fees as well. I started posting with that account. After a few weeks, a member reported my plagiarized post, and I got perm banned. Those posts were made in my newbie days, and I was unaware of the rules. I created a ban appeal thread and got some community support, while others opposed it. I have sent too many emails to theymos and others. I knocked them on Discord and everywhere I know. I got no reply from Administration. At that time, I lost hope and thought I wouldn't get unbanned anymore. While I was trying to explain to the community what had happened. Some forum members were attacking me personally on the ban appeal thread. I was frustrated and thought I could keep posting with AnotherAlt and see what happened. I had many things to learn from the community, and I used anotheralt to learn some technical things about bitcoin and Bitcoin Full node/core and other things. I knew that I was evading the ban. I never thought I would get unbanned since no Mods responded to me anywhere. I was hopeless. That was the reason for the Ban Evading.

Sorry for lying. I was trying to deny everything not to get banned again. But I am not smart enough like others. I can't pretend like someone else. I am mine. Being me gives me inner peace. I feel guilty for what I did. In the meantime, I am not looking for sympathy from the community. I want to face the truth and reality. I can sleep much better now.

I never thought I would get unbanned. When I saw Cyrus knew about my ban Appeal, I was already evading the ban. Special thanks to Cyrus.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5416864.msg61116237#msg61116237