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It's one of those hot news, and you can find in almost all the Newspapers.

It looks like Qatar bribed eight Ecuadorian players for $7.4 millions to lose the wold cup opener. And this isn't weird to me, i mean if they already pay a shit ton of money to have the world cup in their country then we can expect from this world cup to be the most corrupt event in the Soccer history.

Some sources:
https://sportsbrief.com/football/28069-reports-qatar-bribed-ecuadorian-players-74-million-lose-opener/
https://www.marca.com/en/world-cup/2022/11/18/6376cfc7ca4741cc208b4573.html

Right now odds pays x3.26 if Qatar win, i know is a risky bet but i'm almost sure they will win. Will you place bets on this game after knowing about the bribe?

I would not be surprised at all if this indeed happened, but unfortunately this is one of those things in which we will have to watch the game and see the performance of Ecuador to determine if there is something fishy going on during the match, however if it is confirmed this happened it will be yet another stain on this world cup, which has been incredibly polemic from the very day that Qatar was selected as the host

If you are very familiar with the Ecuador team, you can easily spot if they are playing it for real or not.
But this kind of bribe may not come as a surprise, especially if they have money to spend and they want fame on top of that.
Qatar may have the goal to win no matter what, but such goal is not fair if they will resort to this kind of cheating and corruption.
I don't think they can celebrate it fully if they know what transpired just to get such coveted multi-million dollar trophy.

Questions here is, how did they know Qatar is offering a bribe to Ecuador players to lose the game? Are these players exposed it to the public that they're being bribed? (Sorry, I have not read the whole article).
This will actually cause a confusion towards the bettors. Whether who's telling the truth. But, if you're a fan of football and you always watch these guys play, you can easily notice if they're bribed.

I am not a football fan but this is not good for Football sports and the World cup the organizers should do an investigation into the credibility of the events in doubt who would want to see a sporting event where you already know the result this is the number one sport in the world the football community should move to stop corruptions the event will end up not who's the better team but who's country can afford to bribe players, we'll see in the actual game if they will deliberately lose to Qatar, but if Qatar loses then the rumor is not true.

I also heard this news but I'm still not sure about the truth, therefore I still believe Qatar will win with a narrow score of 1 - 0 against Ecuador later in the opening ceremony of the world cup because this is a prestigious event, of course Qatar wants its country to qualify for the last 16, soon world cup is about to start

For me after all of this news im honestly confused. I have Ecuador to win but now im confused and dont know what will happen. Now probobly the players of Ecuador are scared so even if the bribe was real that wont happen now. So really looking forward to seeing what will happen

Yeah, lets not jump ahead of ourselves. It's being reported by newspapers, rather than reputable sources. Until it's proven, we won't know. At the moment, it's just allegations, and there's no way that they've already proven this.

It's a Qatar, so there's going to be all sorts of drama's over the next month. We already know what's happened prior to the event, which has obviously fuelled these allegations, and I suspect it won't be the last. I do think there needs to be a thorough investigation done to the people who died building the stadiums, that goes without saying. However, I'm not just going to believe allegations based on that.

OMG, if this is for real then I guess the World Cup officials will be putting a mark 'x' on Qatar for future hosting events. I'm just starting to look at football and this is what I see, although I know that this also happens elsewhere in other sports.
But this is an official World Cup and it's something that would put a stain on Qatar's reputation for hosting this huge event. But I'll wait for more reputable news source to clarify and verify the news.

These news are becoming funny lately with gulf countries everything is possible with filled bags of money, Qatar has small if not 0 chance to win the world cup this year against strong teams as brazil or argentin so winning the first match against Ecuador won’t really add nothing to them but a waste of money. But as we know Qatar is very rich and also capable of doing it just to make their people believe in development of their football team and give them more opium. The person who published about that news is not very reliable and mostly doing it for fame and more followers. Xd maybe it’s a good chance to bet on Qatar winning and get some profits of it at least.

in these cases (rigged match) an odds must be monitored to understand if there are "strong" movements.

In my personal experience I have seen a couple of times cheated matches here in Italy.
when the odds occur you see literally unreal numbers (example exact result 2-2 at 1.50 at the start of the market).
odds of 3.26 at the moment don't seem like odds for a cheated game ::)

Am no longer surprised whenever I get to see this kind of news about a football game because the football body has not taken any disciplinary actions against offenders who have violated the law by offering bribes in a football tournament for other teams to misbehave so some other teams can win in a game it's a shame to Fifa and football governing body.

If the information we have seen in the papers are true then we leave Fifa with no option but to discipline Qatar and Ecuador so that other countries can learn not to pay bribes to get a good result in a game.

If that is the case then I wouldn't put a bet on Qatar, crypto bookies might void our bets specially if this news is true. And I do agree that it will put a black eye on Qatar as host in this Cup and maybe they will received a severe punishment, their organization and the players involved.

Not sure how this news leaked out, maybe someone didn't get the bribe that he has supposed to get?

And this really messed up everything in this World Cup as there will be a lot of suspicions, as who's who on the pocket or what players deliberately take a dive to lose their game.

This is mere allegation until there is more evidence to the names of the Ecuador players who were bribed including concrete evidence because it could be a fabricated story framed by Newspaper publishers to destroy the reputation of Qatar. But if this proves to be true then Qatar will be at high risk of never hosting the world cup again for a very long time, if not forever. I will have to avoid betting on the opening game.

Now that it already comes out surprisingly with a big amount there should not be a spill but I guess some players want more, or it comes from players who did not get their pay, it's not going to be a good win, and every time Qatar plays there will be suspicious if they bribe their opponent and how much, this is not good for the host country and the sport, in general, it's up to the governing body to penalize Qatar if they found out this is true, but can they?

I agree with others who said that we don't know if it's true. It's very likely that judges will be favoring Qatar like they did when Austria was hosting Euro 2008. I remember there was some controversies regarding their matches because the judges were very harsh towards their opponents.

If they get hard evidence of bribes taken by Ecquador I expect both teams to be banned. Don't put too much money on this match because the information about the bribe could be fake and spread to manipulate the odds.

It's a very risky bet, especially now the news has "leaked" and Ecuadorian players will be especially scrutinized in their performance on the pitch. Judging by the odds being offered all over the place, it's possible that they might be inclined to give the hosts at least a draw, but it does really show how weak the home team are in this tournament. Qatar already got the first game of the tournament rescheduled to their own game, so these sort of sly tricks don't seem that farfetched either. It's a country that is swimming in oil money and one of the most anti-democratic governments you'll find, they are trying to buy prowess on the world stage and would no doubt pay bribes to secure what they think is a benefit.

If Qatar could bribe Equador for the first game, it is also likely that they bribed their way through to win the rights to host this world cup. I thought they were a really religious country with strict rules. If they really bribed their way through and made this bribe to Equador players, then they are just mere hypocrites. Bribing will not get them far since they cannot and it is impossible to give bribe to all the team that are in the world cup to represent.

If this already made waves, why would bookies still want to put this out in the lines? I am not, in the least bit, surprised that this is happening, but man if everyone and their mothers know what's about to go down, why put money on to it and bet on it? It's just nuts. I would avoid this event like the plague but still keep watching closely. Probably, Qatar is going to win and Ecuadorians would make it look like they still tried but meh, both teams should be severely penalized for this flagrant action.

They cannot bribe all the team they just want to have a better standing from their last standing in the last cup and their country s the one hosting it and they want to show pride and better performance, but since this blew up, will they have a face to show to their countryman, they will just say Oh Our team wins, yes they should it comes with a big amount, Qatar will end up a laughing stock on this event.

These are just "some" of the sources and if it's coming from a prominent sports news media, I think that we can have that idea that it actually happened.
But the other side of this is that, it's possible that they can also be paid to tell to deny the allegations as there's no proof. Well, these days, it's hard to get on these medias without valid proof to support on claims and accusations. But I understand that it's being published like this as if they're the first to provide it so they get the visibility and exposure.

I'm not sure if this alleged scandal is true or not, but it makes Qatar a terrible host, beforehand there was news of Qatar bribed FIFA. This time the host was accused of bribe again to win, looks like this world cup will be full of news like this for host if success qualify for round of 16.
Already bet fun on half time with special odds, I'm not sure bet for home "Qatar", although the odds are good but on my side there are many other options I could pick to bet on.

From the very first match things have got to be more hot. The news itself urges everyone to watch the match. Nothing is clear and if Qatar have bribed surely they would've done it in a much secure and in a high confidential way. Based on the article we can't get into conclusion. The match is being scheduled within few days, we'll get the true answer.

It's bad that this kind of news even appeared. Yes, a situation that is likely to be real. However, there may also be speculation that this news is to stir things up. Because media companies love chaos. But I still think it might be real. There have been many international tournaments played before this, but we have not encountered this kind of news. As a result, an unforgettable tournament awaits us in every aspect.

The fifa world cup was never supposed to be held in Qatar.
It's ridiculous to hold a football event in a country that doesn't even practice this sport.
Obviously this is just another marketing event that Qatar holds like any other, it has nothing to do with football.
About bribery, I believe that this did happen .... because it is a country with money to spare trying to buy another financially poor country.
I'm not going to bet on Qatar, I don't want to feed this mafia!

This is the same country that's spending tons of money invading professional golf, isn't it? The country has a load of oil money so 7.4 million is like a quarter to us. Not a good way to get press for the event though and pretty disrespectful to their own team.

Everything impossible will going to be true (Winning and Champions) if money does the talking. Qatar is one richest country that has money to pay anything, but I'm not sure the government facilitate this for the biggest corruption, maybe this is just a person like their soccer head to retain a handshake, If QFA (Qatar Football Association) make the biggest achievement on world cup, a person as head will be promoted to a higher position.

I would not be surprised if this news ends up getting buried for the sake of the integrity of the world cup itself.
Let us assume it is true and some member of the Ecuador team decided to leak the offer to the press anonymously, in order to discourage more bribery in the future days; it does not matter, the FIFA won't let these rumors to spread and impact negatively the event.  

Both Qatar and Ecuador are likely to win.  So this match is more likely to be a draw but if we want to think on the other side then Ecuador is also a good team as far as I know and Qatar is also known as a good team so predicting between the two teams is becoming very complicated.  But I personally think that tomorrow's match will either be a draw or Ecuador will win from here but let's see what the result is after the match end tomorrow.

Qatar spent $200 billion to renovate stadiums and other needs during the World Cup so the money they promised Ecuador players (if it is true) is still very small. Qatar has not yet responded to this news but I believe it is true what happened (they do bribery). I will still choose Ecuador in this opening match.

this is not good as this event is the most expensive world cup we ever had and seeing these kind of news takes away my trust to the best result of this Cup , How I wish that this is just a bad news and there is no true behind this because this will bring bad effect to the respect of the world in this prestigious events.

You know what will be the effect of that bribery to their players?  do they not trust the ability and capacity of their team? they are the one who represent the competition now and yet they are the one who is breaking the rules?
if I were the players of Qatar ? I think this is the best chance to leave and do not represent the country because this is disrespectful in their part as one of the best team in worldcup.
Same view here mate as I am also a sports player and if this happens to me ? i may lose my confident forever as my own country does not trust my skills .

If they offered more money to the Ecuadorian football players when they spent so much money, they would definitely accept it :D
It's disgusting that they do such a thing. The World Cup had to be one of the most beautiful football organizations in the world. But they are doing unbelievably bad things, bribing football players is not acceptable

In every event, there will be things like bribery to many people involved in the event and it's not surprising if that also happened at this world cup because we know this world cup requires a lot of money. But if that happens in the match, it isn't good news because it means the match won't be fair and honest. But hopefully, the referees who lead the match can remain fair and honest so that unsportsmanlike things will not taint the match.

But being the host? they should have been careful about this act because as now it is broadcasted then this will damage their reputation and their players emotion , because they are the one who will suffer from this.

is there any chance that we can see if the bribery was accepted ? because if they are going to bribe just for the opening match then they should offer more.

Didn't surprise me one bit. The other day I saw the news that Qatar is hiring people from Pakistan to create a fake fan audience.

Look at this shit:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-11429323/World-Cup-2022-Qatar-accused-paying-hundreds-fake-fans-Tiktok-video.html

https://i.imgur.com/6bLz3fA.jpg

And then they banned beer sales...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/sportsnews/article-11442203/Qatar-want-alcohol-sales-World-Cup-stadiums-BANNED.html

Hopefully no sane person will watch these games or bet on them.

A corrupted country like Qatar didn't deserve to be the WC host in the first place. They banned beer, nobody likes them and they are trying to hire people to give an image that they are a lively country which everybody loves and want to visit.

No, Qatar is a shithole which nobody wants to visit or care about.

They banned beer sales,no kisses allowed and at least 10 other things that are normal and common in our Western society,I was just reading the morning local newspaper and they had opened it with the title "Qatar:The world cup of the wonders" referring to these things that are not permitted.

Now to act like "saints" in doing this and from the other side to go and corrupt and bribe Ecuador players this is truly a horrendous scandal if it is true and this is truly going to be "the world cup of the wonders" if starts in this way.

this is probably some rumor just to discredit the ecuador or qatar team, we all know that for this world cup the games will be made and monitored by a vast cutting-edge technology, there will be VAR so there would not be like 8 players or even that if 11 players from ecuador played badly in favor of qatar without everyone realizing that and another point is that even if qatar wins in the first game, nothing guarantees them that they will win in the second and in other games, so it is wasting time and money to try to corrupt some team in the world cup in the group stage, it doesn't make sense to do that


ecuador plays well, if they are playing very badly, something like intentionally letting goals in then we would presume they were bribed, but i doubt that smart people from ecuador would make a senseless mistake of paying opposing players only to win a game, they know that doing this is useless, there are still many games that they can lose or win, they have no reason to pay players from ecuador


these countries of religion could not organize the world cup, they have their habits and strange laws so why did they organize the world cup knowing that they are bringing people with different habits? fifa should review this, so that in the future only countries that have normal laws organize the world cup, that's not possible. I keep asking myself: how many people are going to qatar and will be arrested? because without a doubt, with the stubbornness of people, they will drink and be arrested

when I heard the news I preferred not to bet on the match. because for me it is still a suspicion of whether Ecuador really wants to give up the game.
It's normal for everyone before betting to hear the news and cause questions and suspicions that are a little confusing and decide not to bet.
but in my opinion, if indeed Ecuador wants to be bribed, I think it is a mistake. How is it possible that in a world cup match a team chooses money over making their country's name proud (Ecuador)

Such a tournament is unacceptable.  Qatar needs to be penalized and disqualified.  If this news reflects the truth, Fifa should investigate it and give the necessary punishment to Qatar.  I wonder how much did those who bribed the opposing team players $ 7.4 million offer to have it in the world cup country?  Never before has a world cup been so poorly managed.

This is a huge accusation although it may be true, there's no evidence presented so far. I tried to search for Amjad Taha the accuser and I cannot find much information about him except that he is from Bahrain. I know Bahrain and Qatar are rivals in the gulf even during their pre-independence. As far as I know, the ruling family of Bahrain once ruled Qatar before they were expelled from power by the current Qatari royal dynasty. So this may be some sort of a political agenda. And remember that Qatar's relations with neighboring KSA, UAE, and Bahrain aren't fully healed yet. Qatar though is obviously bribing FIFA officials in order to host the event.

Earlier, I was planning to take a bet on Ecuador but upon knowing this topic, I am feeling hesitant.  

Insane news so shortly before the game, and it seems that game is going to happen normally. Right now the odds are still x3.22 for Qatar to win after everybody has heard about the bribing scandal. The bookmakers even think a draw is more likely than Qatar to win. Are people not believing it to be true or the Ecuador team can't throw the game anymore? When it comes to professional football it's easy to fake a game when you bribe half of the enemy team. They can easily miss a few shoots and fall into offsite traps to not score any goals in the first match. I do think we are going to see more goals than the planned 1-0 win, but a Qatar win seems more likely now. From me it will only be a small bet, not more than 5 USD on Qatar, just to make sure if the match is really fixed that I am going to a small profit. But what happens if the Ecuador team is throwing the game too hard? Can Fifa cancel the game afterwards and will our bets than be voided? I am a little bit afraid to not get paid my winnings, but if Qatar loses than the game would be legit.  

This is a mere allegation that is made around, I don't trust almost all news outlets anymore, especially the sports news outlets. I don't know how the allegedly brided players would do such a thing and would not be obvious on the pitch. Frankly, Qatar does not have any chance against Ecuador, and despite being the host country, I don't think they can make it out of the group stage if care is not taken.

If this allegation is real, FIFA would not take it lightly and strict measures would have been taken by now. Though, more investigation is needed.

Of course, there is a possibility that such a report may not be true, but how can a journalist make such a claim out of the blue?  If this claim is not true, I think those who make it will face big problems.  Qatar is already displaying a troubled world cup management.  And if such unacceptable allegations are confirmed, that's why this world cup can be among the unforgettable.

Most likely it's just manipulation of public opinion. 

Qatar sports officials are mostly honest people and I don't believe they gave bribes to the Ecuadorian team.  Perhaps this manipulation is just related to sports betting.  They are trying to convince people that it is Qatar that will win the game between Qatar and Ecuador.

For me, it's not so clear at all. 

In this situation, on the contrary, I would bet on the victory of the Ecuadorian team.

I have seen this more than 3 places and I have been calling it a mere allegation. But since the news is already around the whole internet,  fifa should look into that matter. Qatar is a country that has money, they could think that money will solve all problems for them which will tempt them to do the fixing. On a normal grounds, Qatar may not be able to qualify from the ground matches because they are not good football nation.

Qatar is the host, I don't think that the FIFA will penalized them in the current tournament, maybe after this is concluded, we can see those heavy penalties along the way for the Qatari team and those who are supposedly involved in this bribery if proven to be true.

And it's just a shame that the host country will do such a thing, in their home soil, and then Ecuador accepting it.

We will see but this is another controversy surrounding the World cup and I think this is big news.

As long as there's no proof if Qatar has bribed 8 players from Ecuador, I wouldn't believe since anyone can make an accusation from someone opinion or rumors. I think since Qatar is a strict country and didn't accept every other cultures, those people who hate Qatar create this drama in order to hurt Qatar and FIFA wouldn't choose Qatar again for the future World Cup's home.

It's nothing new football has a politics power and they're trying to attack the others.

I don't know if any such incident happened in 2022 FIFA World Cup. Because the football world cup is a world cup of competition that comes once in a few years. I haven't heard of any bribery crime in this world cup where any team will give money to any other team. It's a rumor I think.Because Qatar hosted the World Cup, other countries could make it a drama to blame Qatar.
So I will never accept it as true I think it is a rumour. It can create such dramas to spread a bad name by other parties. All of us will not listen to all these rumours.

Truth or not, this world championship starts to look like a circus. There are many controversies, starting with the climate in Qatar and the first winter world championship, migrant workers (slaves and deaths are also mentioned) employed in the construction of infrastructure, alcohol, and the LGBT population, which are totally prohibited. The desire of some groups to boycott this championship is louder every day. And now this bribing of players to lose games, somehow I'm not surprised.

I'm never sure about betting when the Qatar host match because maybe it's hard to guess, it's not because of a problem I can't make predictions, it's just that I'm worried about cheating like this, but is the news valid and worthy of accountability, if it's true at least i don't regret with that because i didn't bet on Qatar vs Ecuador match and only bet on other matches

when the power of money speaks, for some players it will be very difficult to refuse. Ecuador's chances of winning the world cup are very small, so if there is news like this, it is not spread haphazardly

what I'm worried about is qatar who is one of the richest countries in the world, is actually using the power of money to get their country into further stages of the world cup

These things could neither be some;

-Speculation
-Leaked information from the players itself

But if we do talk about on sensible manner which it is really that impossible for this information to leak out.When you are a true fan of football then you would definitely
be able to witness in regarding on their actions which it would really be raises up those questions on what the hell is happening and it would be proven out that
they've been bribed on doing such thing.

Could be possible that they would be faced up some charges about bribery?

If that's true then it's worse for football and remember what happened to some of the bribery cases I think this will be investigated if true, again if true, and I quite doubt it's true don't think Qatar will damage their reputation with corrupt behavior this is because they have spent so much money for this tournament so it's a bit impossible that they will ruin all their hard work just because they want to look great and win matches where their people might realize that they are one of the weakest teams not only in this World Cup but also in the group

To be honest, if we refer to the statistics that we have indiscriminately with this blowing bribery issue. I'm pretty sure Qatar will provide a fierce resistance when they play their opening match against Ecuador. before this bribery issue blows, we have tried to predict in several previous posts.

If we compare the rankings and statistical records of these two teams, they do not have significant differences. from the FIFA rankings, only 6 points adrift. Qatar's 50th, while Ecuador's 44th. we try to compare from the matches they had before. Qatar is a 2019 Asian Cup finalist, they overthrew the strongest team in Asia, namely Japan with a score of 1-3.
after that, as a whole Qatar became the dominating team when playing with teams from Asia in various competitions. the latest statistical notes from the trial results with the friendly matches they played, the results are not so bad. out of 8 friendly matches, they got 2 defeats, 2 draws against Chile and Fiorentina. the rest, with 4 wins.

Note: Qatar has 13 naturalized players, and this is why they were able to beat Japan in the 2019 Asian Cup final.

On the other hand, Ecuador's statistical record is not very good in all the competitions they have played in. even the few trial matches they did this year, did not show that they were really strong and ready. of the 6 friendly matches that Ecuador played, Ecuador was only able to win two matches, namely against Nigeria 1-0 and Cape Verde 1-0, the other 4 matches were all draws with no goals created. uniquely, Ecuador against Saudi Arabia, Japan and lastly with Iraq all 0-0. We know this is not a real match, but at least this match is a trial match to see how ready and strong they are to compete in the world cup later.

with this assessment, I predict that the match will not be easy for these two teams. even Qatar has the potential to overthrow Ecuador, because after all they are playing at home. however, due to the issue of bribery, it seems that the opening match will no longer be interesting. at least, for me personally.

I'd love for this to be investigated and see whether it is real or not, I am not trying to defend Qatar or anything but players personally claiming that they were bribed is a big deal. they are a celebrity and they can influence a lot of people if they said something that could tarnish someone's reputation it should be taken seriously.

this news of bribing and match-fixing has gone so much viral, it is not a good thing for the body of FIFA, I believe this news would be investigated in a short period of time.
If this matter is left uninvestigated it will affect the general well-being of FIFA and will ruin the reputation of the players that are involved in this very saga. I will avoid betting on the opening match of the World Cup no matter how sweet the odds appear.

Qatar continues to be hit by negative issues even before the world cup starts, I think Qatar might not have any trouble paying the opposing team to give in but it looks like this will be very risky for the progress of football and also Qatar pride,  I don't want to judge whether it is true or not that news because fully I just hope that this year world cup will run smoothly, I think there are many negative issues circulating from the western media such as only aiming to disgrace Qatar or maybe this is just political in nature because previously Qatar has stipulated a ban on LGBT and also alcohol for players or spectators who come to their country?

FIFA as an organization does not take bribery allegations lightly because they can kill the beautiful game of football. We have also heard of many news bribe scandals that rocked FIFA during the host bidding stage and it was investigated accordingly. I am not also surprised about this news because Qatar is very desperate to make an impact in this world cup. Ecuador players might be tempted to collect the bribe if they have no intentions of making an impact in this world cup and if most of them have a poverty mentality.

I see these reports in many newspapers but i could not still find any evidence for these scandals but just a twitter message from a British based Bahraini who always turn up with controversial topics and the media is trumpeting this rumor. There is a lot of criticism showered against Qatar from the start when they won the bid and this is just a continuation of those attacks to tarnish their reputation because this is the first time the World Cup is conducted in an Arab country.  

What is the point you are trying to prove and is this the first time you are hearing of match-fixing, that is a common thing in football games as many global football games have been fixed several in the past and Qatar happens to be the spotlight of football events in this world cup and a lot of resources will be pushed in just to influence the outcome of some of their vital matches in the world up.

Am not saying the news is real because there has not been any price of that at the moment so the news remains just speculation.

Many people are of the opinion that this could possibly be a rumor, but then, if this be true, I must say that it is highly disappointing, and this brings me to the question of why they would opted to bride their opponent when they had 12 whole years to prepare,? Even if I was going to bet for them since they are the host and can't afford to lose the game since its their opener, I would rather bet on Ecuador wining because Qatar bribing Ecuador already shows the lack the confidence required to win.
But like I said before, the whole bribery thing is still a rumor, only an official confirmation will determine which of the team to camp with.

I am still neutral here about Qatar and maybe you are right that we will see a lot of drama during the event. I will not immediately believe that these bribery allegations are true until proven by a direct investigation by FIFA.

Despite all these accusations, I believe that football always involves money, but it may not involve the state directly, but certain individuals who have an interest. However, we will get to know the facts later because now no one should need to believe in unproven accusations.

Im not surprised if this is actually truth but i think we wont actually know for sure unless there is some hardcore facts. If Qatar wins the first game everybody will think that it was fixed probobly. The odds on this match havent dropped so i think no body yet bited this rumour.

Anything can happen since they are not qualified to even host the world cup and now they are scared to play their opening match with Ecuador and win instead they want to use money to buy their winning. FIFA should make sure that this board is unique by avoiding bribes and punish any player or country that is caught in the act.

FIFA is also a corrupt body and I wonder how they can fight corruption, is it that money can  make impossibilities possible I guess no. I will advice everybody not to place a bet on that match because we can't predict the outcome based on the information on ground.

I do agree though, FIFA as a sports governing body is very corrupt, even for the voting as we will be the President involves bribe money and even countries that want to host the event. So let's see how quick and swift their form of justice here, specially against Qatar.

Definitely, we may want to stay away from matches that involves the host city and Ecuador. Or we need a keen eye as who's athlete seems to be not bringing his A game here. For now, everyone is a suspect.

If this news come out to be true after real investigation is done, this tournament will be the most corrupt of match rigging in my opinion. Anyway you said it looks like so we are going to keep our eyes open to see how the opening match will turn out because that will be the first text of rigging. I expect that allegations of match fixing should be heard towards the end of the world cup and not at the start of the tournament and the first game for that matter.

Exactly, and if they are going to investigate they shoulf start immediately since the accusation is quite big and scandalous. what more is that if Qatar won the opening match, their win would be riddled with scandals and could affect the teams morale.

Match fixes are quite common with that and there is even a documentary about it in Netflix, so you just know that if they have that they have substantial evidence with how corrupt it is in general. Having it titled as FIFA uncovered, it already says, corrupt I think. Lol

We have too many speculations and allegations from first day of this event while this was in hosting process so right now talking its speculation or right no one can give clear reply but for me, we can expect things like these from them because they have reputation for having use of money for their own cause and mostly this works for them even in this case if anything wrong happen then FIFA could be tough, and we can expect harsh punishments and other penalties as well because Qatar officials without any doubt are desperate for the win of first match.

Now, with this all if they won this match on merit then still many doubts and suspiciously is going to work around with surely this is going to be one of the most controversial events in soccer history because too many problems and now sudden ban on alcohol just before few days is also having another controversy.

I really don't believe the accusation and even if the result would turnout to be in favor of the Qataris with the 1 Nil predicted scoreline, I would still love to believe that it was just all a mere coincidence, that we all come about when making predictions and bets, I supposed there is way on the line not just for the players or team in question and $7.4 million despite being a significant some in even first world countries, in exchange for winning the match, seem way more less to the damaged and unrest that such an antics would cause to the already controversial winter-hosting of the event.

There have been numerous rumors spreading regarding Qatar buying off FIFA officials. I sincerely hope that Qatar did not buy the match. For many of those Ecuadorian footballers, $7 million is a huge sum of money. But if Qatar actually did that, it wouldn't surprise me. Despite this, my bet is on Ecuador to win the game, if you ask me. Because of how weak their team is, Qatar will not move on to the next round of the competition.

Qatar hosting the event itself a controversy. This might be a way to add oil to the burning fire. This is like FIFA needs to be organized by the European and American countries. This is the first time an Asian country hosting the event. Earlier South Korea and Japan co-hosted the event in the year 2002. If we check the old history of such news during the start of the events, we'll get to know whether this is just a pass-on news or got real information.

Well, there is no evidence of the transaction that will prove that Qatar bribed those 8 players.  If there is no proof then it is just a rumor.  Not because many news articles picked up on that malicious tweet,  it is true.  So it is right to just be on a neutral stance here unless the person who tweeted produces evidence that will prove his tweet to be true.  I bet, that person will be facing criminal charges soon.


Game fixing already exists in sports whatever it is kind.  It is that the agreement and process are kept secret so there are only a few cases[1] that were known to the public.

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[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_match-fixing_incidents

I didn't expect World Cup to start this way with bribing of players, but this was always happening in all competitions.
Maybe it's good that this news was exposed and published, players could reject any deals they made previously, and this should be investigated later.

if this is just a rumor, then i can say, where there's smoke, there's fire. we may not see the proof but such issue will stick to the minds of the people. not a good start, but i believe, the winner for this world cup will do their best to achieve such title. we may see anomalies if we will look hard about the performance of each country as compared to their previous performance. but of course, it depends also on the lineup of their athletes.

You can rest assured. Of course, Ecuador is a very strong team. Ecuador will have the best chance of winning this match if there is no drama in the match.Ecuadorian players are scared because they have to play against Qatar in Qatar's field. But we always hope that there will be no drama in this match.A very nice and fair match gift between Qatar and Ecuador.

They are quite common but I don't believe with such a high profile event such as this one that only occurs every 4 years it happening.
If there is any corruption then I would assume the proper actions would be taken if there is any clear evidence of colluding with match fixing for the host.

The odds were 3.25x earlier today for Qatar but last I looked they have been increasing by 0.10x every so often.
So I don't think people are buying into the news of anything like this is actually happening. Especially for the very first match of the tournament.

I really don't think people are buying it and they shouldn't either, I'm sure there are even be bigger parties (like odds maker) at play that would put even more than that on the one the line to get a fair tournament.

As I always say, that these days the bigger the event the lesser the chances of it being fixed, perhaps I'm just that naive. If they're able to buy their way against Ecuador, and it's probably easier for some people to believe for such simply because how they probably rate the Ecuador team, I mean no disrespect to the aforementioned team and theirs, but would the story and amount in question if they were playing against a team like Brazil, Engalnd or France where most of their players are earning close or more than what each of those supposedly bribed players would have gotten from that money in less than a month at their various clubs.

Damage? Qatar literally bribed Fifa to host this world cup, then ended up killing THOUSANDS of people to build the stadiums, enslaved them, not even allowed them to speak to their families when something happened, all those workers weren't even compensated, neither their families, many injured, and you think that their reputation could be damaged?

I tell you what, if an English team goes up on sale, and a person from Qatar wants to buy it, English fans will line up to kiss their feet so that they can get some money and success. Look at Newcastle, they got a literal murderer and someone who ignores human rights, and yet they loved it when he bought the club so they can see some success.

You really know Football and World Cup and the many corruptions attached to it, its the number one sports event and this is the prestigious sport in the world, so expect corruption but I'm surprised how corrupt the system is, and how countries will do everything to get into the top standing, there are still a lot of corruptions here that the general public is not aware of, maybe an independent media should do a documentary about this so they get exposed and there will be a call to revamp the system.

Before the FIFA Soccer World Cup 2010... South Africa paid $10 000 000 to FIFA officials to host the Soccer World Cup in South Africa. https://www.dailymaverick.co.za/article/2019-04-18-the-2010-soccer-world-cup-led-to-massive-fraud-and-corruption-within-law-enforcement-agencies-johan-booysen/

Guess what happened before Russia and Qatar got the Soccer World Cup? - https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/06/sports/soccer/qatar-and-russia-bribery-world-cup-fifa.html

So.... is this news about the opening match a surprise? No!! it is not..... it is just one huge "show" and a pot of corruption.  ::) How many of the other games are being bought by the highest bidder?

It's sad that there are a lot of criticism against the Qatar hosting the World Cup apart from ban on alcohol and their strict rules against LGBT there is the issue of unreported death of 6500 migrant workers who worked as casual workers during the construction of their stadium which the country authority outrightly denied but quoted 37 deaths, again the issue of bribery the Ecuadorian players making the latest headlines, whatever the case might be all eyes will beam on the opening match between the teams to confirm the veracity of those bribery allegations, I am very sure FIFA will set up an investigation team to expose those behind the deal.

First of all, to win a match you bribe an official, not a player, because unless you manage to bribe the entire team, even 1 suspicious teammate will bring the whole effort down. 1 official is enough. That was such a dumb news.

I don't want to defend Qatar's issues with human rights etc as they are all out there but I really think the media has nothing better to do than to distract people from the real big problems that plague all nations. After all, because of World Cup, Qatar has been improving conditions for people there. My own country has many people working there and they agree, if not because of WC attention things would never have improved.

And as RealMalatesta said, if any other Europe team gets offer from rich state to buy their club and spend 100s of millions on new players without needing to borrow money, they would kiss the feet. See Newcastle fans after they got bought, suddenly all wearing the Arabic headgear happily.

So I don't want to defend any criminal but I really am getting tired of the double standards. Players talking about Qatar abuse played happily in Russia 4 years ago  ::)

If this story is true then it is a shame for Ecuador that they are not representing their country and selling themselves to Qatar for some money.  But still it is not right to make any bad comments by believing it. Because it will be understood on the field of play that they are playing with their enough effort or they are acting fake.  Because if you're familiar with Ecuador team, you'll know for yourself how they're playing and what to expect from them.

It is going to be the most controversial world cup event held, not just corrupt. I said controversial because there are going to be more revelations on what the country does not want or what it wants FIFA to do more. Already we heard about the ban on alcohol at the world cup by Qatar. It feels it can do anything it wants because it has the ticket and the world cup starts today. Qatar knows FIFA can not back out now even when the conditions are not favourable to them.

if they succeed in bribing a number of core teams of course it will also be difficult if Ecuador will not score goals let alone manage to bribe the main striker, I think that also has an effect, but again maybe it's just fake news and as hosts Qatar really plays well, no anyone knows the truth, all will be seen in a few hours when the game starts

Today is the opening and the match against Qatar and Ecuador, since this news broke out, the world will watch how the game will proceed, and the world will be observant of both teams if they will deliberately fix the game and if there are true to the news that Qatar really bribe some players of Ecuador/
Our country has never been a part of these events because football is not popular here in our country, but this is the number one sport in the world and this is a big concern for participants and supporters of this event that is held every four years.

Few hours more to for the match to begin maybe like an hour more to see how the games turns out but I believe Qatar is the more competent side to win the match, I would like to watch the opening ceremony. Apart from the rumours of match fixing, the opening ceremony is having many artists to open the event with their show of artistry.

There's so much allegations against Qatar that some of it has to be true. For instance they promised to allow alcohol at the stadium, gathered sponsorship money from beer companies and then banned them anyway. This shows that the people who manage the championship are liars and cannot be trusted.

Then there were rumors that they're paying people to create fake crowds at the stadium and cheer for their team.

Now we have rumors of bribes that Qatar is denying, but should we believe them with all the things going on?

I pity the people who paid to go there.

the match has already started and we will see the truth of what was shared by the OP in this thread, I think we will find out after the match is over and see who wins in this match to find out

Before the first 5 minutes Ecuador scored, and it was canceled. Then close to minute 15 Ecuador scored again by penalty and this time was a valid one.

Ecuador i s playing really good. They are proving how they are a better team. But the game still on, let's see how it ends.

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I think it's not offside but the Ecuador player's feet are a little bit forward, it looks like Qatar is starting to lose confidence as a host to win this game, I know people are betting a lot on Ecuador but this is where we can see Ecuador is really playing well and can dismissed the news that was circulating

atm the alleged bribes are not doing any good :D Ecuador look like they could beat Qatar by a couple of goals. They could have easily been up 2 or 3 already and the qatar players have not threatened Ecuador one time. I think it could get ugly for Qatar against Netherlands and Senegal. I am surprised by the pace that Ecuador are playing at they look like a good team out there that are playing as a team. The referee is a little gun ho with his cards though giving a couple of yellow cards already. I am used to watching the bundesliga which allows a lot more aggression.

The first match of the 2022 world cup has started and at this time the match between Qatar and Ecuador has started with a temporary score of 0-2 for Ecuador victory, If seeing today game  looks like the news that says Qatar bribed Ecuador players is an hoax, because if you see the Qatar game today is clearly very bad and it's not even visible if qatar can win that the match, Ecuador can actually be said to be one of the weakest teams but instead they can destroy qatar very easily, today match in my opinion is the worst world cup opening match I have ever seen because the messy game of qatar.

The internet is full of lies and misinformation, it can deceive and it can lead people to lose money, the Internet can confuse you and make you to make wrong decision. How about the news flying around that Qatar has bribed the players of Ecuador how is that possible now even in the first half Ecuador is able to score two goals, did the bribe fail?
I would have got a good win in this match but FUD made me lose out.

What happened was that Ecuador was able to make a quick goal and in fact, Ecuador was able to win at half time with a score of 2-0. With a result like this I think it's just a rumor or whatever makes this event more interesting, because I'm sure in this era there are a lot of monitoring teams to be able to prevent bad things like this bribe from happening.
Unless this is a small event and not as big and lavish as the World Cup, then it's possible that a bribery case could occur. But yes indeed, there is no guarantee that it is 100% clean, at least there will always be opportunities to carry out dirty practices like that anywhere.

But for an event of this size I'm not really sure that there will be bribery practices that leak, but if at the end of the match Qatar can win the match then it's very possible that this will be a big question for me as well regarding the circulating bribery cases.
Because to be honest, losing 0-2 at half time is difficult for teams that are left behind to get up, even the big teams don't fully guarantee a comeback if they experience a result like that.

corruption in the world of football cannot be separated, and it has been attached for a long time, the world cup is a very prestigious event and it is not surprising that rich countries will do anything to raise the prestige of their country in the world cup

I don't know when and whether this rumor is true but it looks like Ecuador will manage to win easily against Qatar today, and the news about bribery will disappear by itself

There is absolutely no reality to this report, in my opinion. The World Cup is far larger than matches in other leagues. Qatar as a nation cannot offer a bribe to win the game; instead, they must play well. They can't go to such lengths to win a match by offering a bribe; therefore, if they lose, so be it. I don't believe this news in the slightest.

I agree with you. But you can't blame the internet people and misinformation peddlers. The whole Qatar rights to  host the World Cup has been controversial from the onset, so it didn't come as a surprise. Did you know that if Ecuador hadn't scored two other goals after the first one was disallowed by VAR the rumors would or may have been upheld. Anyways what I can say is that there is more than meets the eye in the tournament.

We should all be aware that the rate of unrealistic stories that are posted on the internet is very high and most times people just frame up false stories just to get attention and views.

Well if truly Qatar did bribe any Ecuador players then maybe those set of players did not actually feature on todays opening game, because as the match is going on now they are trailing by 2goals maybe the stories is actually the other way round  ;D

So far we see little of the allegations of certain bribery. Qatar has no chance and 0-2 seems to me to be a pretty good reflection of the match. The whole country was very confident in Qatar's performance, but the player material is simply too limited to really participate in the group. If you can't beat Ecuador either, then it will stop quickly. They still have the whole 2nd half, but I don't see many opportunities for Qatar in this match. I think we're going to get to 0-3 and 0-4 rather than 2-2. It would be nice for the audience and the game if we see a 1-2 quickly. Qatar will have to play all or nothing, they have nothing to lose now with this half-time score.

I understand why this kind of news can come up, Qatar are a completely poor team and it has shown today. If someone had suggested them paying a bribe so they could at least score a goal, I now see the reason. If qatar bribed some of the Equadorian player's, they didn't pay enough because Equador is completely oppressing them in the opening game. They scored a goal in the first three minutes but it was ruled out for offside, that is not the attitude of a team that has been bribed.

It is very common situation in the world. But this kind of news has happened in today's opening match which is really worth taking into consideration. There may be rumors spread where the number of gamblers can be increased in favor of Qatar and those who are whale gamblers they will fill the bag. I think this is the reason to spreading the rumor. However, this rumor has nothing to do with the field as we have seen the scenario of the field is completely different.

That is the truth. Assuming more goals didn't come it would have the more escalated the rumor. But the rumours was not about the fifa officials and the var. It was about Qatar and the players of Ecuador but people will not think of that. People likes to see loop holes where they will spread more news that will create FUD anywhere for their own advantages.

Ecuador - 2
Qatar - 0

I guess that tells us that the rumors of bribing were just meant to discredit the host and event unless they suddenly start scoring 3 goals in 10 to 15 minutes. It's really hard to think any country would allow themselves to be tainted on the most prestigious tournament in the world.

Well the match is about to end and Qatar will lose this match comfortably.  :)

This means that this news was false and it just created a lot of curiosity and confusion. Also due to this, many people did not took the bet on this match and some may have bet on Qatar based on this news. Those people must be disappointed with the results.

Do really people think that it would be pushed through? No ones knows if its actually true or not but its impossible for realizing those information  if it was leaked truly or simply they cant just let it happen
since it was busted already but i do really believe on the fact that when it comes to false information and trolling then there are lots of situations like this which its not surprising that there are
ones who do just simply ignore and move on but its true that there are ones who did really make a bet with Qatar, they do really believe that it is already a fixed match
without considering that it might be just a troll news or things had been changed up along the way.

their scores do not really prove anything. As I said before a proper investigation should be done because despite Qatar losing in the opening match there is still a chance that the players of Ecuador were tried to be bribed and are telling the truth and if found that they are telling the truth appropriate actions should be done. but if they are found to be lying they should be found accountable for possible damages that were done because of the rumor.

It could be that because the rumor was out in the people, they're able to play it naturally.

But if there really is bribing that has happened, I guess that it will be out soon when the World Cup's done. It's true that there's still the chance that they were bribed and that's still an action that can be sued.

On the other hand, there's something to be thought of having the benefit of the doubt. It's hard to weigh things especially when its come to this.

It would be very irresponsible of the Ecuador team to spread those false rumors themselves, they could end up getting punished if they were found to be guilty. I see no reason why they would lie this way.
I am not very familiar with the culture and people of Qatar, but I assume it would be possible some wealthy person indeed tried to bribe the Ecuatorian selection, does not Qatar have a problem with corruption?

In the best case, this was just a rumor pushed by some media web that wanted to get attention and clicks not matter what.

OP, from what I discovered on the field, I didn't see such attitude from Ecuador team. Was it that the news was fault or because the news has leak so they refrain from the attitude of selling their right. In the match, Ecuador displayed their talent. They were always to score.

 @acroman08 you can't judge them from a far. As you can see it from your TV if you are not in the stadium, there was nothing like bribery game on the pitch. Qatar has weak players and Ecuador has a strong team. So. I didn't see anything like as the op in the match.

Two things, first, the bribe is true but since it was discovered or exposed Qatar ask them that they forget the bribe and just play well because the whole world is watching to see if there's a hint of bribing, second, there's no bribe at all and its all just fake news Ecuador is really a strong team and Qatar is just a weak team, this is unfair for both teams to be accused of bribing both teams should go for those who created these fake news.

Whats the point of fake news? What things they would attain on saying such thing?

Its true that on the time where there are sayings or news or tips about those bribes then it is really just normal that they would really be just forgetting the deal and go as normal as this could really
create lots of issues if it did really happen on which beating up a strong team.We arent that blind nor make out some comparison on how well these teams are and which one is better and which
one is the best.If this turns out to be a fake news, then what are the things that they could get something from it?

Controversies like this happen in big events, Ecuador has been known to be a strong team if Qatar which is considered a weak team beat Equador then there's suspicion that there's a bribe going on, I think Ecuador is fully aware of the bribe news that they go all out to score goals, thanks to Enner Valencia who scored the two goals for Ecuador, there could possibly more news coming up in this World cup hopefully all are positive news.

The result of today's match proved the news to be false. I think fake news without proof targets countries and institutions, but actually harms football directly. It shouldn't be hard to say it's really unpleasant behavior. Also, I think there is a very high probability that it is a fake news made to influence betting predictions. Legal investigation should be initiated against whoever made this claim.

Today's result gave the conclusion for the news spread around. If Qatar have won today's match, then the entire world could've started questioning the FIFA organization. The same could've spoilt the matches. Ecuador will be called for investigation and the Ecuador players could've received unwanted hate from their country people. Investigation to find the authority that revealed such news should be punished to avoid such unethical news spreading.

in this age, we don't know anymore if the news is fake or legit. most are fake actually basing on some unfounded gossips. it will show on their performance, if indeed those 8 ecuadorian players got their bribed money. but in the game, it seemed they did great as they beat the seemingly weak qatari team. but of course people will speculate. if they learned that some players were bribed, they may have had changed their bets. we don't know the motive why such rumour spread before the game.

If I were a bettor I would but it should be an insider tip, not something that comes out in public, it's highly irregular, and people will believe that there's bribing if Qatar wins against Ecuador, checking the win, it's impressive they are highly motivated to win maybe they want to prove something, it is like Qatar hands is tied up because if they win the general public will think that there's indeed bribing and if it's not true then it's unfair for Qatar.

After the opening game was played with Qatar losing 2-0, does the news that they bribed Ecuador players still be true? Hostility towards the host has existed for a long time, not only for Qatar but also for countries that organize major events such as the Olympics, but whether this is true or not must be proven through investigations and trials, not only media rumors are believed.
With last night's results maybe another piece of news will appear that the money has not been transferred to the Ecuadorian players so they continue to play as usual and win the match, who knows because the media can report the truth but there are also many lies they report even just gossip.

Talks of bribe and fixed matches can hardly convince me. I'm usually suspicious of such talks. I know it is happening but without heavy evidences I would rather assume that things are running normally. But knowing Qatar a little bit and how the royals there could extravagantly spend huge amounts of money for whatever they have in mind regardless of whether they're just for a mere hobby or for image building or for pride or simply for ostentatious showing of wealth, it is possible.

But it seems they failed to include Valencia in the bribery. Lol.

Match fixing was buzzing about the World Cup opening match. But in the end it wasn't true. If Ecuador had lost that match, there would have been many rumors about this match. If it is fixed match then it could have seen Qatar score in the second half after the first half ended. But nothing was reflected. Qatar's poor performance keep Qatar at the bottom. Since billions of dollars are gambled every day on the win or loss of this match, fake news are always spreading in various ways.

This is why I previously said we don't know the person who make this rumor and there's no proof at all, but the media just spread out this rumor in order to gain traffic. Medias and journalist wouldn't verify any proof before make an article, what they know is find a hot topic to get traffic. When the rumor proved wrong, they can just either delete their article or create another article lol just like they wasn't did something wrong.

Just from the reading of the news, you would have known that Qatar government can not do something stupid like that, how would they bribe 8 players to sacrifice their integrity. The rumour was just because Qatar is hosting world cup and they think that having the first mtch with Ecuador, that they will not want to lose it because Ecuador players are far better, they play faster and have more chance to win. That is just news, there are lies in news, that is why I prefer to read better news that will bring out such if it actually it is true, but I saw nothing like that on BBC, though no news is 100% accurate sometimes.

There is always a little truth in every rumour. We should not conclude it is a fake news. FIFA should look into that accusation eventhough Qatar lost the opening match to those they were accused of attempting to bribe. I believe something went on there and should be investigated and not swept off like that. It will be really bad for Qatar if they are guilty of it. It is not enough to reject alcohol while you commit other immoral acts.

There is alot happening while FIFA is going on and this might be a part of that as Qatar lost their opening match with Ecuador there is a possibility of this being wrong or false but there is no smoke without fire .definitely administration should look into this matter as this is not a small accusations for host country .

You do know if this was real or not because it really doesnt add up.   The national team are there to best represent their country, its far too obvious a scheme to play out well.  The only people who would want to bribe in a game are for profit and hoping not to get caught, this whole match is very high publicity its a bad bet from the start because of that giant spotlight on the match.
  Its rumors nothing more, it doesnt add up even from a completely corrupt point of view its a bad value bribe to enter into this game in such a way.   The corrupt people in this game want no attention for their endeavors, they want profits easy as possible and this is not it.   You all already know this, people love to gossip for fun thats what I hear when this story is told; hope it was fun for whomever to spread.

What has been done here is not to cast doubt on Qatar or FIFA. What has been done here is to smear football. I am a football lover and I think that gossip products without any proof should be kept away from football. Instead of slandering football with freak rhetoric, we should talk with concrete data and we should not give an opportunity to those who want to slander football.

If we give the opportunity to freak discourses, we can produce freak statements about the results of the investigation (there may be some who say that the results of the investigation are made with bribery). If we enter such a cycle, we will live the rest of our lives with freak discourses instead of living with concrete data.

I don't think such a thing would be very wise.

the people who bet on a draw may have lost last night's bet, but lucky for those who bet for ecuador have won the game, ecuador's win at the same time dispelling the news about bribes circulating everywhere, I think OP needs to lock this thread because the Qatar and Ecuador match is over and it looks like Qatar still needs to increase their confidence as hosts in the world cup at least they can play better against Senegal later  ;)

That's what really matters because we need to know which league we are talking about and for Qatar to first-time host a huge event, they won't try anything funny just to look good for the visitors because this is not only for the games but also to show how great their country is and don't forget they are also promoting tourism. I also believe about match-fixing happened in some sports but this time it won't gonna happen because Qatar is fair and square and we know how it really turns out because the Ecuador are in the whole different level when it comes to this sport compared to them.

IMO, the match wasn't very interesting, there wasn't much buying and selling of attacks from the two teams. The Qatar squad's defeat had been smelled since the early minutes of the match. they played under high pressure, the result was that the Qatar national team had to bear the shame in front of their own public, they had to surrender to being conquered by Ecuador.

lucky for those who bet for Ecuador, I myself bet for the home team. and yes, we lost. however, the defeat of the home team in this opening game broke the issue of bribery which had become a hot topic of conversation in almost all sports news. at least, what was rumored in fact did not happen at all. and I agree with you, it's a good thing OP locked this thread.

Well as they showed, nobody from Ecuador was being bribed, lol. Everyone played to the the maximum even in the first half and got so many chances while preventing even a single movement from Qatar in their own penalty box, much less a shot attempt until injury time in the first half.

Fake news proven, so let's put this matter to rest!!

I am not saying that there was or that there is, I am simply saying that an investigation should be done and prove whether it was just a rumor or not. besides, if they find out if the rumor is proven not to be true it could remove the bad image the Qatar team has received because of it.

I think there is no significant role in running behind such rumors. Because anyone can spread rumors. If someone can directly say that this is true then Qatar will take its legal measures otherwise no one will chase after an unknown or fake event. In this case it can only be considered as rumor and the game already finished so it would be nothing.

Wait, so if Qatar bribed players, should not they be held accountable for game fixing? Isn't this also a conclusive reason in order to prevent any hosting of world cup on their country as well? With this kind of shady tactics, who knows what they also engaged in the past or in the future with the money that they have.

This is just disgusting in all levels- bribing players to intentionally lose in a world cup opener. They are actually belittling the sport and making this a money-grab industry where you can actually buy people.

With Qatar loosing 2:0 to Ecuador, it is already justified that this claim was nothing but a rumor, there is no way Qatar must have bribed Ecuador to allow them win the match and they will still loose, by now, the news of their disagreement would have spread all over the globe.
So this claim that Qatar bribed Ecuador, to me, is just one of such fake news spread by some individuals who do not have anything meaningful to contribute to the ongoing world cup match.

On the other hand, maybe if Qatar had won the match, then many would have believed this rumor including myself, then maybe the authorities would have stepped in to investigate the matter, and make sure that Qatar's win is justified.

yes, if Qatar wins, of course many will believe the rumors. It was not difficult for Qatar to bribe Ecuador players. but now we know the truth.
maybe this is also because of the public's view of paid supporters in stadiums which has recently gone viral on social media. so the media develop rumors that have no proof. I think there will be more rumors in this world cup. many media develop fake news only for their profit.

So where are those people who were spreading fake news about the bribe in the opening match?
Also, those who were saying that Qatar bribed Ecuador, what do that they have to say about this now? They must be feeling ashamed telling fake news and trying to bring bad names to the host team.
It's better for Qatar to lose the match rather than to win it through the bribe.

The score indicates they're not throwin away a game.

It's the World Cup and not some unknown league or competition. They cannot throw a game that easily and not be suspected. Each participating country knows and understands the severity of the punishment for match fixing or bribing so it makes no sense for Qatar to make such offer and face a huge penalty after spending so much for hosting the event.

Qatar bribed the the 8 players and lost the match - who is spreading all these rumors?
There are so many controversies and there are so much going on in the stadium will be the biggest memory of the world cup for sure

This very horrendous gossip was first spread starting from their statement, Qatar has lost in the ceremony match and I think we can forget about this issue, even though this rumor will go down in world cup history

We need to forget about this news and rumor and move on. We now know that Qatar was honest and they did not cheat.
Perhaps a loss was good for them.

Apart from the match, the stadiums and everything's look so beautiful at Qatar. They have really worked hard to produce a masterpiece stadiums at Doha and nearby.

It would really be raising lots of questions on whats the motive on spreading out these rumors? Some are saying that it didnt really happen because it was been bust up which they didnt really let it for it to happen.

It would be the biggest issue on where on attached on WC.We dont actually know on whats the origin of this rumor which is really that something a very bad thing if it did really happen.

Comparing both teams then you could say which one is strong and which one is not.It would really be raising eyebrows if Qatar did able to beat up Ecuador. :D

Maybe it happen but since it was exposed they did not push through with it because the world will watch and observe how both team will play

it's very controversial indeed definitely it comes from those who don't want Qatar to host the World Cup and put them in an embarrassing situation

If this comes after they beat Ecuador this is not going to be good for Qatar's campaign every game people will have a suspicion if they bribe the other team, maybe they just want to win the opener as a good omen.

Qatar deserves whatever shit they are getting right now. Ever since they won the hosting rights in 2010 (by bribing delegates from poor nations), they have behaved in such a shameless manner. They have refused to compensate dead migrant workers and they banned beer in the stadiums just two days before the kickoff. If these sort of allegations are levelled against any other team (say for example Iran or United States), we would probably ignore it. But that is not the case with Qatar, because we already know how corrupt they are.

Qatar has done everything in superb manner to host this worldcup. They spend 230 billion USD for this worldcup, I dont know whether news about this thread is true or not. since Qatar lost the game so we can say they this is not true. Poor migrant worker face same treatment not only in Qatar but in whole gulf.

I don't know how much Qatar spent on hosting the world cup. What I know is that they didn't provided even $1 in compensation for those migrant workers who died during the construction of these stadiums.


https://www.amnesty.org/en/documents/mde22/4614/2021/en/ (check the report, it explicitly states that Qatar never paid any compensation to the families of dead workers)

The official report from Amnesty is that ~6,500 workers died during the 2011-2020 period. However unofficial reports claim that the number of deaths amounts to 15,021. If they had spent $230 billion in the construction of stadiums, they could have spent less than 0.01% of that amount to provide a compensation of $1,000 each to the dead workers.

With corruption allegations surrounding Qatars hosting of the worldcup and a very expensive hosting of the game thanks to new structures and all, it's very easy not to make such match fixing claims because these guys aren't much of a footballing nation and can afford a few pieces of silver for their glory... Tbh at this point a genuine win by them will easily be taken as a bought game, but on paper they are the weaker team of the group.

There are just unfortunate seasons for our favorite teams including by chance fortune and manipulated. I am hearing a lot recently about the league wherein they've really expected their teams to move on the next stage but emded up losing with an underdog team. I can relate even if I'm into a different sports. Maybe such thing could occur in any league. That's a part of it even if it would seem not to, 'coz of allegations. But as others are saying, it would be more impossible to reset the game. The results are final and we need to accept it even if it is hard. There will be another seasons or league for our biases and we just have to be patient as their fan.

Partially, I did not believe that news right away, but because it is Qatar, I cannot just say that it isn't impossible. Especially when $7.4 million is only dust money for that tiny yet super-rich gulf nation. Now it is becoming more impossible for Qatar to win a single game when Maneless Senegal played a high-level game against the Netherlands. It was just unfortunate for Senegal when unexpectedly the Netherlands landed 2 goals in the dying minutes of the game. The way Senegal and Qatar played in their previous games, I give zero chance for the latter to win except if miracles are true.

I watched both matches, and can say that Senegal performed better in their match against Netherlands, when compared to the performance by Qatar against Ecuador. Qatar's remaining matches are against Netherlands and Senegal. There is absolutely zero chance that they will get any points from the first one. So their only hope is against Senegal. The latter are playing without their best player, so a win for Qatar is possible. But if they underestimate Senegal, then they will be the first host team to finish with zero points in the preliminary phase.

1. Qatar vs Ecuador match was done and Ecuador won for 2-0 against Qatar.
2. No evidence if Qatar bribed 8 players from Ecuador.
3. Why no one discuss if Saudi Arabia bribed Argentina players and Japan bribed Germany players? :D

There's nothing should be discussed anymore, why we need to discuss to a match that has been ended and the result goes wrong with people prediction. I ask to @OP to lock this thread and just focus to the next world cup match.

Even though Ecuador won the match, it would still be nice to know if there was bribing happening or not. Seems like a big deal to me if the host country really engages in trying to bribe the enemy team. Only the attempt on it's own should already have major consequences and remove Qatar from the worldcup. I am not so sure about the average wages for professional football players in Ecuador, but to me it seems that 1 million is a huge amount. Shouldn't that be flagged by the banks? When 8 players get so much money added to their bank account there should be some kind of proof that could easily be investigated. It baffles me a bit that there is no demand by the international community to investigate the claims furthers. Also there was no need for Japan to bribe any Germany players, we are doing this happily on our own. 4 years ago it was South Korea, now it's Japan. The german team can't handle the pressure. Gonda played exceptionally well during that match, he deserves to win. Now I am rooting for a Japan to get far during the tournament as I lost all my money on Germany and not going to trust them again this cup. 

All the rumours about Qatar bribing Ecuador are all fake from the bottom of hell. Such rumours should be discarded especially when Ecuador finally won Qatar. Assuming Qatar won Ecuador, the rumour would have gotten another level of relevance, but as it appears now this rumour is dead.

The OP  of this thread  or hilariousandco should lock this thread because it is a thread that deceives and spread false information that has the capacity to deceive gamblers to lose money.

Well, is there any news that the media house which first produced this fake news got plenty for publishing and telling false information to the public?

Apart from betting, and influencing the gamblers to make wrong betting on this fake news, this is a matter of National dignity and it was done to put a bad name to the world cup hosts Qatar.

I think the Qatar government should take it seriously and demand punishment for those who publish this fake news.

The goverment is too busy organizing and dealing with the fans maybe later when the world cup is over - they will catch the people acountable.
But I think this is not a good thing to do propaganda against any country or religion

It can be true that they are busy in regards to organizing the event but I don't think it was their duty to accommodate the fans. Fans should be handled already by the players or can also depend on their managers.

Now that Qatar losses the match, I hope the negative rumours about them are now going to disappear and the government won't bother talking an action after the event is over. They will just relax and then move on to their other projects. In everything that we do, there will always be a hater but I think what triggers these haters is the tragic event that happened to the workers on building the stadium (as seen on the above post by @Sithara007).

They will have enough money in Qatar, but such bribery scandals are too striking. Then players would have to consciously make mistakes, you can't do something like that inconspicuously. And what about the money the players get? Then there would be bank transfers or a large sum of money at once. Players from both Ecuador and Qatar also have a great sense of honor, you don't often hear about bribery at a World Cup. But when players are bribed, it is often because bets are being placed on those matches. Since that wouldn't be the issue right now, you could get away with it. But looking at the level of the first game, I think it was the other way around  ;D

I'd be more worried about the refs calling some terribly placed calls during a tight game then players from another te throwing the game.  I hope no one on bet on Qatar based on this information.  I know there is scandle throughout soccer but hopefully it's minimal during the world cup.  Takes the fun out of watching each match.

seems that the rumour may not be true after all. we have seen how the game went down. so maybe, certain people or entities just wanted to spread the false news of this bribery. we don't know, especially if there was large sum of money involved. this is why, just trust your instincts esp. if you are betting your own money. we can't trust the hearsays. they usually turned out to be fake.

Its already done.
Ecuador wins which isnt surprising.
https://www.hindustantimes.com/sports/football/qatar-vs-ecuador-football-live-score-fifa-world-cup-2022-qat-vs-ecu-group-a-al-bayt-stadium-qatar-101668942127149.html

If this one turns out to happen where players on the other team had those odd plays then pretty sure it would really be getting lots of boos
and there would be lots of questions and criticism for that opener game.

It is really just impossible if we do base up in between statistics where Qatar could beat them out.

I do agree, but there were allegations though, and that's why it is being discussed whether this allegations are true or not.

And with Ecuador winning against the host, maybe they back up or something because they are in the limelight?

Those nations that you mentioned, we haven't heard anything though. But for the Qatari's they made a lot of noises in world cup not this one and has been discussed several pages back (like migrant workers dying and others).

The whole world is trying to prove that Qatar is not a good host for the foot ball world cup = yesterday I was watching a video and fox news journalist said that I didn't like special gate for women .. but in muslim culture - woman don't search men and men don't touch woman so they are not ready to respect the culture of Qatar.

Its a culture clash of course, some respect for a country which is not your own is needed.   You are correct really, alot of the western press expect the entire world to think exactly as they do and that attitude has always been there to some extent.  Its a lack of thought rather then any deliberate policy, hosting the world cup itself is probably some attempt to break down these barriers at least partly and show people are more similar then would be expected even with the differences in society that will remain before and after the world cup.

Qatar hosting the FIFA at its best than the previous seasons. This is a big thing that the westerners can't accept. Maybe for the reason more stories are getting tied up with Qatar. For some reason all the claims against Qatar have been broken, but the death of workers during the development of the sports Village hasn't been cleared and it stands as a black mark over the host forever.

But Qatar has been bullied so much but the west media - but the Qatar is adamant on their term which is very good move
Everyculture should respect other culture

Well, for me this enters into a very controversial issue, both those from Qatar and those from any country have their ways of doing things and I think they are very delicate questioning their way of living and doing things, as they have said many, it is better to concentrate on football, which is what really matters, and those issues that are focused on the political order should not be there because it tarnishes a game as beautiful as football, it is better to concentrate on the football that we have Seen, for it to continue to be successful, if we get to see each other, everything affects the people who continue to go to the stadium to see their countries participate, despite everything I think that football unites, and this time the Qataris changed being hosts, so we have to take the best of the experiences in their land.

Maybe Qatar isn't a very good host but it's all happening now, whether we like it or not. And those who go to Qatar to watch the World Cup in person must follow the rules there so they don't get into trouble later. If I'm not mistaken, there is a rule that allows drinking 3 hours before the match or 1 hour after the match ends but I don't know if that's true or not. Some rules have been changed because they conform to the existing rules and we, as an audience, must follow them.

Muslim culture is very different  - they have strict rules for beer and gambling.
The point mentioned above is also very important - women are not supposed to touch stranger men and men dont touch women - this is the rule and everyone abide by this rule.

Politics and Sport are two different things and that is what FIFA has always kick against, no racism, no religion and no favouritism but it seems the more they try to avoid this things, the more they occur which makes me to remember the speech made by Morgan Freeman in the World Cup ground opening. he asked the boy that "what bring us together today here is bigger than what divide us and how long could we make it last?'' and the Qatar boy recite some quran a reference that it is through respect and tolerance, this message was made to counter this kind of rumours and hate among us.

Football has unite us all irrespective of our religion, respect other people religions and culture, we can't attack them because of their culture and looking at their performance so far, they will  not be making it out in the group stage, just free Qatar and lets enjoy football for just this 1 month.  :-\

It is also possible that the agreement is on and the bribe money has already been given but due to this leaked news, the agreement is called off.  We may have a different view on this since we really don't know the truth.  Only the people involved and witnesses know if the rumors that circulate are true or not.

As the rumor create a huge ruckus at the sporting event, I think the source of the gossip where the rumors came is now being searched.  The person will probably face defamation charges and possibly be given the penalty and probably need to pay on the damage it creates.


True!  Politics and sports are two different things because in politics there are no sports while in sports there are lots of politics.  ;D.  No matter how hard FIFA denies that there is no politics in their sports, the governing itself is called politics.  Please see the definition of politics.

I think the offer is too low to disclose and continues to be discussed without evidence. Qatar should be able to give Lamborghini for all of Ecuador's players and staff to lose instead of just dirtying its hands with $7.4 million. The accusation was far more likely to be due to an element of hatred about Qatar hosting the World Cup, but things worked out and the group stages were close to the third round this week.

In case the rumors were really false after the investigation, who would actually be the first to want to take responsibility for the accusations. Perhaps his attention would be diverted, this seemed more likely.

FIFA in my opinion deserve as much of every criticism that have come their way and more, because Qatar hosting this year's World Cup was clearly out of political and money influenced motive for over 8 years that Qatar have been confirmed to be the host, FIFA are well aware of the religious stance of the country when it comes to gender equality, gambling, drinking and whatnot, but they chose to be ignorant of these rules and the impact it would have on the entire world and their diverse cultures coming together into such a setting with highly restrictive social activities, this should have been debated and cleared over the period of those years of preparation, it shouldn't come as a surprise or such as breach of contract with Budweiser (a beer company in a unwelcomed country) being the major sponsor of the tournament.

You have to just love it when a plan doesn't come together and Qatar were unceremoniously dumped out of the competition in the worst way. To top it off Qatari's have shown that they are pretty poor fans, after emptying the stands when it was clear their team had lost and failing to support both teams until the very end - why was it hosted here again? However, it just goes to show that when the spotlight is on you and this rumor was circulating more wildly elsewhere, then any Ecuadorian players who had been offered the deal knew that it wasn't possible. That just left playing their heart out and proving that they were much better opponents than the Qatari quality players.

Is it too difficult to respect the rules made by a house owner? I am very annoyed with people who can't respect the rules made by a house owner, All those who go to Qatar to watch the world cup must follow the rules that Qatar has made

Europe also has some rules that are applied by people who want to enter their country so those who disobey the rules of Qatar are not eligible to go there, but we have finished a lot of matches, can we say Qatar as the host this time quite successful in carrying out their responsibilities

the issue of Qatar bribing Ecuador players or some workers who died during construction, will be a historical record for Qatar when it hosts the world cup

Are there really people whom do really believed that Qatar would win up against Ecuador?

For sure if these informations didnt leaked out then it might really happen considering that it is really that involving huge money but it turns out that we had seen the normal or typical outcome
which it cant really be that surprising but if we do see some turn around then that would be raising up some questions or really raises up some eyebrows.

Since we do see that they had dumped out by Ecua then people or fans didnt really get surprised on what happened.

USA fans have been known to leave early, probably every country in the world that's become something people do especially if there's traffic to avoid etc.    There was a funny case where the American football team started to come back and win in the last minutes and fans hearing this on the radio as they leave the carpark are denied reentry to the stadium to watch it as they already used up their tickets.    
  I dont see why anyone would be so eager to criticize the hosts, they weren't going to win this and are still building the sport in the country which is much smaller then others.   They put in an effort and will have to learn and come back next time harder same as a lot of teams.     We can all laugh if its needed about the time England got beaten by Iceland who are part time players not even professionals paid properly, nobodies flawless even those with a century of history of training and investment.

With all the narratives that is going, it looks like they are making up things as they go. The fact remains that construction is a dangerous job and everyone is pointing at the death toll of Qatar World Cup, since this is in the limelight now, i would like to know the death tolls whenever a major construction work is done for World Cups and Olympics and i am certain there will be deaths during construction when it comes to big construction projects.

It is not just a Muslim culture, basically in Asia there are special gates for men and woman and it is nothing special. Yes i saw the news regarding a journalist trying to stir things up as if it is something unusual, when you go to a mall women are going through a security check where women are the security person and even in airports, it is the same.

Majority of the construction work in GCC countries are done by people from India, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh and other surrounding countries and you will not see an Arab working in a construction site other than a supervisory role because they are bloody oil rich. The numbers regarding the death the western media is projecting is bullshit.

This can be fallacy because there is not much evidence precisely to be said or to be told if that should be an evidence that there be a record off video made by them because this like this I will assume that it is an accusation or out of anger or someone defeating them so that someone story that is believable and that is also a story that is not unbelievable so this particular story from my own understanding is unbelievable

Very true as you said, I also really agree Qatar is the best FIFA host from the previous season, because they impose strict rules according to the rules that apply in their country, strongly oppose LGBT and are not allowed to have free sex Qatar also prohibits alcohol , those are big things that western countries cannot accept, so they accuse Qatar of bribing eight players from Ecuador for the opening match, even though all of these accusations are completely untrue, as evidenced in the opening match Qatar was defeated by Ecuador with a score of 2-0 , and in the second match they were also defeated by Senegal with a score of 3-1, they have confirmed that they will not qualify for the next round, in the last match Qatar will face the Netherlands, on paper the Netherlands can definitely secure 3 points and successfully qualify for the round of 16 .

Qatar is really screwing up this opportunity to make some money, honor and fame for their country. ::)

They could have been rolling in the tourist money if they made a small zoned-off bubble for the western sensibilities. instead of showing the ugly sides of their culture. Now they have insulted so many people, including the people of Pernambuco, Brazil. For stomping on their flag.

Qatar needs to get its shit together. It is basically "the Russia of holding World Cups" at this point. But, I have not yet witnessed a stoning of an LGBT. So props on that.

Making money may not be one of their motives, I am afraid. They spent hundreds of billions of USD in to this event, fully knowing that they may not recover even 10% of that amount. What they want is fame for their country. But it didn't worked out as expected. Human rights organizations used this opportunity to highlight the case of dead migrant workers and LGBT groups also used it to put discriminatory laws in the limelight. On top of that, most of the fans are angry, due to needless restrictions on partying and alcohol.

The world cup is a global platform where different countries converge to entertain the world not only with football but cultural displays. Host nations should be able to adjust or refine their rules so that fans would have the opportunity to showcase their culture and also enjoy the tournament. I think FIFA should also consider the flexibility of most nations before they are given the right to host this tournament.

The issue of inhuman treatment of immigrant workers and the high construction accident and death due to dangerous work descriptions is very disturbing. Thousand of workers lost their live because a country want to prove to the world that they are developed or have the capacity to host the world cup in a grand style. I have even read stories of mass arrest and deportation of workers without interrogation or investigation. And the most annoying part of this workers exploitation was that they were paid peanuts.

The news of bribing eight Ecuador players turned out to be fake because Qatar have not gotten a point yet.
 

Yes, that's correct. They should do as you say but nowadays people have changed a lot. Men can touch women and vice versa. Islam prohibits beer and gambling because later, it can make them not realize what they have been doing while drunk.

Some people may find it difficult to comply with the rules made by the homeowner. And because there are spectators who come from other countries where drinking beer is normal for them, they cannot drink it freely while they are in Qatar because of Islamic rules there.

The Qatari government is just trying to enforce the rules that have been made and this seems to be going quite well, although there may be people who still break the rules. But the issue in Qatar will not be known whether it is true or not and we as the audience, will not know either. So we better enjoy this World Cup and place bets for our favorite team.

I agree with you here. I think those are alleged bribery. What really the real issue here is the exploitation of workers. This massive construction creates opportunities but on the other hand, it destroys someone's life and dreams. I pity those who sacrificews thier lives to me this project a reality.

As Qatar was eliminated with 0 points in group stage we can return back to this thread. I still support my argument about someone (including Qatar) can never fix a World cup match. World cups are literally the most visible and watched football tournaments in the world. It can be too obvious. And it can be too large to hide. Qatar was very weak team, they were obviously gonna be eliminated. Some people exeggarated things that were happening within Qatar as they are unlikely candidate to world cup. Many people accused FIFA because of it.

Qatar is definitely organising an amazing and worth appreciating world cup and whole world is following it .
Just there are some rules and regulations ins Qatar related to drinking and dressing up doesn't mean they are not good enough to organise such big event . Every country have their culture , morals and values and being a guest in a host country people should follow those rules with whole heart. I have heard stories about people who were caught by Qatari authorities for hiding wine in binoculars and going in stadium  ,like I don't get one thing why is this so difficult for people to not drink for just 1 month  or few days .

The problem is that when government reaches too far and prohibits you from doing something, then it becomes a trouble. I am not saying culturally you should do it or not, but if government blocks it from happening then it's a problem. Like let's say Qatar people do not drink, because of their culture, that's fine, there is nothing wrong with that, in fact that is a healthy thing, wish nobody drank, because it would be much healthier world if none of us ever drink.

However, the moment you say "you can't drink, we don't allow you", that becomes a bad thing, because you are taking away freedom from people and that is the bad part in Qatar right now. Don't do it if you don't want to, but do not keep others from doing it just because you don't.

Since the beginning this issue has surfaced, ahead of the 3 day opening of the world cup begins. I am very skeptical, that this is just an issue that aims to bring down the name of the host of the world cup organizers this year. I believe it is, and it is a fact. Qatar squad, lost to Ecuador quite easily which ended 0-2.
maybe for the Asian championship tournament, Qatar can still compete and they are even able to win the Asian Cup beating Japan. however, in the world cup they don't have any experience, they only appear as the home team, nothing more.

This issue emerged based on a tweet from Amjad Taha, at least he is the person who must be held accountable for his statement. if our members are here, we only discuss whether or not this bribery issue is true. apart from all that, I am happy that Qatar's failure to the next round has made this scandalous issue a complete nonsense.