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November 25, 2022, 10:48:47 PM
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It's one of those hot news, and you can find in almost all the Newspapers.

It looks like Qatar bribed eight Ecuadorian players for $7.4 millions to lose the wold cup opener. And this isn't weird to me, i mean if they already pay a shit ton of money to have the world cup in their country then we can expect from this world cup to be the most corrupt event in the Soccer history.

Some sources:
https://sportsbrief.com/football/28069-reports-qatar-bribed-ecuadorian-players-74-million-lose-opener/
https://www.marca.com/en/world-cup/2022/11/18/6376cfc7ca4741cc208b4573.html

Right now odds pays x3.26 if Qatar win, i know is a risky bet but i'm almost sure they will win. Will you place bets on this game after knowing about the bribe?

I'd be more worried about the refs calling some terribly placed calls during a tight game then players from another te throwing the game.  I hope no one on bet on Qatar based on this information.  I know there is scandle throughout soccer but hopefully it's minimal during the world cup.  Takes the fun out of watching each match.
Its already done.
Ecuador wins which isnt surprising.
https://www.hindustantimes.com/sports/football/qatar-vs-ecuador-football-live-score-fifa-world-cup-2022-qat-vs-ecu-group-a-al-bayt-stadium-qatar-101668942127149.html

If this one turns out to happen where players on the other team had those odd plays then pretty sure it would really be getting lots of boos
and there would be lots of questions and criticism for that opener game.

It is really just impossible if we do base up in between statistics where Qatar could beat them out.
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November 26, 2022, 11:30:15 PM
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1. Qatar vs Ecuador match was done and Ecuador won for 2-0 against Qatar.
2. No evidence if Qatar bribed 8 players from Ecuador.
3. Why no one discuss if Saudi Arabia bribed Argentina players and Japan bribed Germany players? Cheesy

There's nothing should be discussed anymore, why we need to discuss to a match that has been ended and the result goes wrong with people prediction. I ask to @OP to lock this thread and just focus to the next world cup match.

I do agree, but there were allegations though, and that's why it is being discussed whether this allegations are true or not.

And with Ecuador winning against the host, maybe they back up or something because they are in the limelight?

Those nations that you mentioned, we haven't heard anything though. But for the Qatari's they made a lot of noises in world cup not this one and has been discussed several pages back (like migrant workers dying and others).

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November 26, 2022, 11:35:36 PM
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1. Qatar vs Ecuador match was done and Ecuador won for 2-0 against Qatar.
2. No evidence if Qatar bribed 8 players from Ecuador.
3. Why no one discuss if Saudi Arabia bribed Argentina players and Japan bribed Germany players? Cheesy

There's nothing should be discussed anymore, why we need to discuss to a match that has been ended and the result goes wrong with people prediction. I ask to @OP to lock this thread and just focus to the next world cup match.

I do agree, but there were allegations though, and that's why it is being discussed whether this allegations are true or not.

And with Ecuador winning against the host, maybe they back up or something because they are in the limelight?

Those nations that you mentioned, we haven't heard anything though. But for the Qatari's they made a lot of noises in world cup not this one and has been discussed several pages back (like migrant workers dying and others).
The whole world is trying to prove that Qatar is not a good host for the foot ball world cup = yesterday I was watching a video and fox news journalist said that I didn't like special gate for women .. but in muslim culture - woman don't search men and men don't touch woman so they are not ready to respect the culture of Qatar.

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November 26, 2022, 11:50:02 PM
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Its a culture clash of course, some respect for a country which is not your own is needed.   You are correct really, alot of the western press expect the entire world to think exactly as they do and that attitude has always been there to some extent.  Its a lack of thought rather then any deliberate policy, hosting the world cup itself is probably some attempt to break down these barriers at least partly and show people are more similar then would be expected even with the differences in society that will remain before and after the world cup.

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November 26, 2022, 11:56:13 PM
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Qatar hosting the FIFA at its best than the previous seasons. This is a big thing that the westerners can't accept. Maybe for the reason more stories are getting tied up with Qatar. For some reason all the claims against Qatar have been broken, but the death of workers during the development of the sports Village hasn't been cleared and it stands as a black mark over the host forever.

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November 26, 2022, 11:59:28 PM
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Qatar hosting the FIFA at its best than the previous seasons. This is a big thing that the westerners can't accept. Maybe for the reason more stories are getting tied up with Qatar. For some reason all the claims against Qatar have been broken, but the death of workers during the development of the sports Village hasn't been cleared and it stands as a black mark over the host forever.
But Qatar has been bullied so much but the west media - but the Qatar is adamant on their term which is very good move
Everyculture should respect other culture

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November 28, 2022, 02:40:51 AM
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Qatar hosting the FIFA at its best than the previous seasons. This is a big thing that the westerners can't accept. Maybe for the reason more stories are getting tied up with Qatar. For some reason all the claims against Qatar have been broken, but the death of workers during the development of the sports Village hasn't been cleared and it stands as a black mark over the host forever.
But Qatar has been bullied so much but the west media - but the Qatar is adamant on their term which is very good move
Everyculture should respect other culture

Well, for me this enters into a very controversial issue, both those from Qatar and those from any country have their ways of doing things and I think they are very delicate questioning their way of living and doing things, as they have said many, it is better to concentrate on football, which is what really matters, and those issues that are focused on the political order should not be there because it tarnishes a game as beautiful as football, it is better to concentrate on the football that we have Seen, for it to continue to be successful, if we get to see each other, everything affects the people who continue to go to the stadium to see their countries participate, despite everything I think that football unites, and this time the Qataris changed being hosts, so we have to take the best of the experiences in their land.

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November 28, 2022, 09:01:07 AM
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The whole world is trying to prove that Qatar is not a good host for the foot ball world cup = yesterday I was watching a video and fox news journalist said that I didn't like special gate for women .. but in muslim culture - woman don't search men and men don't touch woman so they are not ready to respect the culture of Qatar.
Maybe Qatar isn't a very good host but it's all happening now, whether we like it or not. And those who go to Qatar to watch the World Cup in person must follow the rules there so they don't get into trouble later. If I'm not mistaken, there is a rule that allows drinking 3 hours before the match or 1 hour after the match ends but I don't know if that's true or not. Some rules have been changed because they conform to the existing rules and we, as an audience, must follow them.

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November 28, 2022, 07:36:41 PM
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The whole world is trying to prove that Qatar is not a good host for the foot ball world cup = yesterday I was watching a video and fox news journalist said that I didn't like special gate for women .. but in muslim culture - woman don't search men and men don't touch woman so they are not ready to respect the culture of Qatar.
Maybe Qatar isn't a very good host but it's all happening now, whether we like it or not. And those who go to Qatar to watch the World Cup in person must follow the rules there so they don't get into trouble later. If I'm not mistaken, there is a rule that allows drinking 3 hours before the match or 1 hour after the match ends but I don't know if that's true or not. Some rules have been changed because they conform to the existing rules and we, as an audience, must follow them.
Muslim culture is very different  - they have strict rules for beer and gambling.
The point mentioned above is also very important - women are not supposed to touch stranger men and men dont touch women - this is the rule and everyone abide by this rule.

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November 28, 2022, 08:06:05 PM
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It's one of those hot news, and you can find in almost all the Newspapers.

It looks like Qatar bribed eight Ecuadorian players for $7.4 millions to lose the wold cup opener. And this isn't weird to me, i mean if they already pay a shit ton of money to have the world cup in their country then we can expect from this world cup to be the most corrupt event in the Soccer history.

Some sources:
https://sportsbrief.com/football/28069-reports-qatar-bribed-ecuadorian-players-74-million-lose-opener/
https://www.marca.com/en/world-cup/2022/11/18/6376cfc7ca4741cc208b4573.html

Right now odds pays x3.26 if Qatar win, i know is a risky bet but i'm almost sure they will win. Will you place bets on this game after knowing about the bribe?

Politics and Sport are two different things and that is what FIFA has always kick against, no racism, no religion and no favouritism but it seems the more they try to avoid this things, the more they occur which makes me to remember the speech made by Morgan Freeman in the World Cup ground opening. he asked the boy that "what bring us together today here is bigger than what divide us and how long could we make it last?'' and the Qatar boy recite some quran a reference that it is through respect and tolerance, this message was made to counter this kind of rumours and hate among us.

Football has unite us all irrespective of our religion, respect other people religions and culture, we can't attack them because of their culture and looking at their performance so far, they will  not be making it out in the group stage, just free Qatar and lets enjoy football for just this 1 month.  Undecided



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November 28, 2022, 08:14:00 PM
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They will have enough money in Qatar, but such bribery scandals are too striking. Then players would have to consciously make mistakes, you can't do something like that inconspicuously. And what about the money the players get? Then there would be bank transfers or a large sum of money at once. Players from both Ecuador and Qatar also have a great sense of honor, you don't often hear about bribery at a World Cup. But when players are bribed, it is often because bets are being placed on those matches. Since that wouldn't be the issue right now, you could get away with it. But looking at the level of the first game, I think it was the other way around  Grin

seems that the rumour may not be true after all. we have seen how the game went down. so maybe, certain people or entities just wanted to spread the false news of this bribery. we don't know, especially if there was large sum of money involved. this is why, just trust your instincts esp. if you are betting your own money. we can't trust the hearsays. they usually turned out to be fake.

It is also possible that the agreement is on and the bribe money has already been given but due to this leaked news, the agreement is called off.  We may have a different view on this since we really don't know the truth.  Only the people involved and witnesses know if the rumors that circulate are true or not.

As the rumor create a huge ruckus at the sporting event, I think the source of the gossip where the rumors came is now being searched.  The person will probably face defamation charges and possibly be given the penalty and probably need to pay on the damage it creates.


Politics and Sport are two different things and that is what FIFA has always kick against, no racism, no religion and no favouritism but it seems the more they try to avoid this things, the more they occur which makes me to remember the speech made by Morgan Freeman in the World Cup ground opening. he asked the boy that "what bring us together today here is bigger than what divide us and how long could we make it last?'' and the Qatar boy recite some quran a reference that it is through respect and tolerance, this message was made to counter this kind of rumours and hate among us.

Football has unite us all irrespective of our religion, respect other people religions and culture, we can't attack them because of their culture and looking at their performance so far, they will  not be making it out in the group stage, just free Qatar and lets enjoy football for just this 1 month.  Undecided

True!  Politics and sports are two different things because in politics there are no sports while in sports there are lots of politics.  Grin.  No matter how hard FIFA denies that there is no politics in their sports, the governing itself is called politics.  Please see the definition of politics.

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November 28, 2022, 08:24:40 PM
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It is also possible that the agreement is on and the bribe money has already been given but due to this leaked news, the agreement is called off.  We may have a different view on this since we really don't know the truth.  Only the people involved and witnesses know if the rumors that circulate are true or not.

As the rumor create a huge ruckus at the sporting event, I think the source of the gossip where the rumors came is now being searched.  The person will probably face defamation charges and possibly be given the penalty and probably need to pay on the damage it creates.
I think the offer is too low to disclose and continues to be discussed without evidence. Qatar should be able to give Lamborghini for all of Ecuador's players and staff to lose instead of just dirtying its hands with $7.4 million. The accusation was far more likely to be due to an element of hatred about Qatar hosting the World Cup, but things worked out and the group stages were close to the third round this week.

In case the rumors were really false after the investigation, who would actually be the first to want to take responsibility for the accusations. Perhaps his attention would be diverted, this seemed more likely.


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November 28, 2022, 08:55:14 PM
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It's one of those hot news, and you can find in almost all the Newspapers.

It looks like Qatar bribed eight Ecuadorian players for $7.4 millions to lose the wold cup opener. And this isn't weird to me, i mean if they already pay a shit ton of money to have the world cup in their country then we can expect from this world cup to be the most corrupt event in the Soccer history.

Some sources:
https://sportsbrief.com/football/28069-reports-qatar-bribed-ecuadorian-players-74-million-lose-opener/
https://www.marca.com/en/world-cup/2022/11/18/6376cfc7ca4741cc208b4573.html

Right now odds pays x3.26 if Qatar win, i know is a risky bet but i'm almost sure they will win. Will you place bets on this game after knowing about the bribe?

Politics and Sport are two different things and that is what FIFA has always kick against, no racism, no religion and no favouritism but it seems the more they try to avoid this things, the more they occur which makes me to remember the speech made by Morgan Freeman in the World Cup ground opening. he asked the boy that "what bring us together today here is bigger than what divide us and how long could we make it last?'' and the Qatar boy recite some quran a reference that it is through respect and tolerance, this message was made to counter this kind of rumours and hate among us.

Football has unite us all irrespective of our religion, respect other people religions and culture, we can't attack them because of their culture and looking at their performance so far, they will  not be making it out in the group stage, just free Qatar and lets enjoy football for just this 1 month.  Undecided

FIFA in my opinion deserve as much of every criticism that have come their way and more, because Qatar hosting this year's World Cup was clearly out of political and money influenced motive for over 8 years that Qatar have been confirmed to be the host, FIFA are well aware of the religious stance of the country when it comes to gender equality, gambling, drinking and whatnot, but they chose to be ignorant of these rules and the impact it would have on the entire world and their diverse cultures coming together into such a setting with highly restrictive social activities, this should have been debated and cleared over the period of those years of preparation, it shouldn't come as a surprise or such as breach of contract with Budweiser (a beer company in a unwelcomed country) being the major sponsor of the tournament.

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November 28, 2022, 09:09:53 PM
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It's one of those hot news, and you can find in almost all the Newspapers.

It looks like Qatar bribed eight Ecuadorian players for $7.4 millions to lose the wold cup opener. And this isn't weird to me, i mean if they already pay a shit ton of money to have the world cup in their country then we can expect from this world cup to be the most corrupt event in the Soccer history.

Right now odds pays x3.26 if Qatar win, i know is a risky bet but i'm almost sure they will win. Will you place bets on this game after knowing about the bribe?

You have to just love it when a plan doesn't come together and Qatar were unceremoniously dumped out of the competition in the worst way. To top it off Qatari's have shown that they are pretty poor fans, after emptying the stands when it was clear their team had lost and failing to support both teams until the very end - why was it hosted here again? However, it just goes to show that when the spotlight is on you and this rumor was circulating more wildly elsewhere, then any Ecuadorian players who had been offered the deal knew that it wasn't possible. That just left playing their heart out and proving that they were much better opponents than the Qatari quality players.

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November 28, 2022, 09:15:45 PM
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The whole world is trying to prove that Qatar is not a good host for the foot ball world cup = yesterday I was watching a video and fox news journalist said that I didn't like special gate for women .. but in muslim culture - woman don't search men and men don't touch woman so they are not ready to respect the culture of Qatar.
Maybe Qatar isn't a very good host but it's all happening now, whether we like it or not. And those who go to Qatar to watch the World Cup in person must follow the rules there so they don't get into trouble later. If I'm not mistaken, there is a rule that allows drinking 3 hours before the match or 1 hour after the match ends but I don't know if that's true or not. Some rules have been changed because they conform to the existing rules and we, as an audience, must follow them.
Is it too difficult to respect the rules made by a house owner? I am very annoyed with people who can't respect the rules made by a house owner, All those who go to Qatar to watch the world cup must follow the rules that Qatar has made

Europe also has some rules that are applied by people who want to enter their country so those who disobey the rules of Qatar are not eligible to go there, but we have finished a lot of matches, can we say Qatar as the host this time quite successful in carrying out their responsibilities

the issue of Qatar bribing Ecuador players or some workers who died during construction, will be a historical record for Qatar when it hosts the world cup

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It's one of those hot news, and you can find in almost all the Newspapers.

It looks like Qatar bribed eight Ecuadorian players for $7.4 millions to lose the wold cup opener. And this isn't weird to me, i mean if they already pay a shit ton of money to have the world cup in their country then we can expect from this world cup to be the most corrupt event in the Soccer history.

Right now odds pays x3.26 if Qatar win, i know is a risky bet but i'm almost sure they will win. Will you place bets on this game after knowing about the bribe?

You have to just love it when a plan doesn't come together and Qatar were unceremoniously dumped out of the competition in the worst way. To top it off Qatari's have shown that they are pretty poor fans, after emptying the stands when it was clear their team had lost and failing to support both teams until the very end - why was it hosted here again? However, it just goes to show that when the spotlight is on you and this rumor was circulating more wildly elsewhere, then any Ecuadorian players who had been offered the deal knew that it wasn't possible. That just left playing their heart out and proving that they were much better opponents than the Qatari quality players.
Are there really people whom do really believed that Qatar would win up against Ecuador?

For sure if these informations didnt leaked out then it might really happen considering that it is really that involving huge money but it turns out that we had seen the normal or typical outcome
which it cant really be that surprising but if we do see some turn around then that would be raising up some questions or really raises up some eyebrows.

Since we do see that they had dumped out by Ecua then people or fans didnt really get surprised on what happened.

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November 28, 2022, 10:11:46 PM
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plan doesn't come together and Qatar were unceremoniously dumped out of the competition in the worst way. To top it off Qatari's have shown that they are pretty poor fans, after emptying the stands when it was clear their team had lost


USA fans have been known to leave early, probably every country in the world that's become something people do especially if there's traffic to avoid etc.    There was a funny case where the American football team started to come back and win in the last minutes and fans hearing this on the radio as they leave the carpark are denied reentry to the stadium to watch it as they already used up their tickets.    
  I dont see why anyone would be so eager to criticize the hosts, they weren't going to win this and are still building the sport in the country which is much smaller then others.   They put in an effort and will have to learn and come back next time harder same as a lot of teams.     We can all laugh if its needed about the time England got beaten by Iceland who are part time players not even professionals paid properly, nobodies flawless even those with a century of history of training and investment.

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November 28, 2022, 10:19:17 PM
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Qatar hosting the FIFA at its best than the previous seasons. This is a big thing that the westerners can't accept. Maybe for the reason more stories are getting tied up with Qatar. For some reason all the claims against Qatar have been broken, but the death of workers during the development of the sports Village hasn't been cleared and it stands as a black mark over the host forever.
With all the narratives that is going, it looks like they are making up things as they go. The fact remains that construction is a dangerous job and everyone is pointing at the death toll of Qatar World Cup, since this is in the limelight now, i would like to know the death tolls whenever a major construction work is done for World Cups and Olympics and i am certain there will be deaths during construction when it comes to big construction projects.
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November 28, 2022, 10:24:46 PM
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The whole world is trying to prove that Qatar is not a good host for the foot ball world cup = yesterday I was watching a video and fox news journalist said that I didn't like special gate for women .. but in muslim culture - woman don't search men and men don't touch woman so they are not ready to respect the culture of Qatar.
It is not just a Muslim culture, basically in Asia there are special gates for men and woman and it is nothing special. Yes i saw the news regarding a journalist trying to stir things up as if it is something unusual, when you go to a mall women are going through a security check where women are the security person and even in airports, it is the same.

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Those nations that you mentioned, we haven't heard anything though. But for the Qatari's they made a lot of noises in world cup not this one and has been discussed several pages back (like migrant workers dying and others).
Majority of the construction work in GCC countries are done by people from India, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh and other surrounding countries and you will not see an Arab working in a construction site other than a supervisory role because they are bloody oil rich. The numbers regarding the death the western media is projecting is bullshit.
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November 28, 2022, 10:28:30 PM
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It's one of those hot news, and you can find in almost all the Newspapers.

It looks like Qatar bribed eight Ecuadorian players for $7.4 millions to lose the wold cup opener. And this isn't weird to me, i mean if they already pay a shit ton of money to have the world cup in their country then we can expect from this world cup to be the most corrupt event in the Soccer history.

Some sources:
https://sportsbrief.com/football/28069-reports-qatar-bribed-ecuadorian-players-74-million-lose-opener/
https://www.marca.com/en/world-cup/2022/11/18/6376cfc7ca4741cc208b4573.html

Right now odds pays x3.26 if Qatar win, i know is a risky bet but i'm almost sure they will win. Will you place bets on this game after knowing about the bribe?
This can be fallacy because there is not much evidence precisely to be said or to be told if that should be an evidence that there be a record off video made by them because this like this I will assume that it is an accusation or out of anger or someone defeating them so that someone story that is believable and that is also a story that is not unbelievable so this particular story from my own understanding is unbelievable

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