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November 19, 2022, 06:44:14 PM
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I think this new is not correct - these days news spread like wildfire and everyone wants to remain clean.
Brazil and argentina are the favourites of the world cup
What is the point you are trying to prove and is this the first time you are hearing of match-fixing, that is a common thing in football games as many global football games have been fixed several in the past and Qatar happens to be the spotlight of football events in this world cup and a lot of resources will be pushed in just to influence the outcome of some of their vital matches in the world up.

Am not saying the news is real because there has not been any price of that at the moment so the news remains just speculation.
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November 19, 2022, 07:04:33 PM
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It's one of those hot news, and you can find in almost all the Newspapers.

It looks like Qatar bribed eight Ecuadorian players for $7.4 millions to lose the wold cup opener. And this isn't weird to me, i mean if they already pay a shit ton of money to have the world cup in their country then we can expect from this world cup to be the most corrupt event in the Soccer history.

Some sources:
https://sportsbrief.com/football/28069-reports-qatar-bribed-ecuadorian-players-74-million-lose-opener/
https://www.marca.com/en/world-cup/2022/11/18/6376cfc7ca4741cc208b4573.html

Right now odds pays x3.26 if Qatar win, i know is a risky bet but i'm almost sure they will win. Will you place bets on this game after knowing about the bribe?
Many people are of the opinion that this could possibly be a rumor, but then, if this be true, I must say that it is highly disappointing, and this brings me to the question of why they would opted to bride their opponent when they had 12 whole years to prepare,? Even if I was going to bet for them since they are the host and can't afford to lose the game since its their opener, I would rather bet on Ecuador wining because Qatar bribing Ecuador already shows the lack the confidence required to win.
But like I said before, the whole bribery thing is still a rumor, only an official confirmation will determine which of the team to camp with.

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November 19, 2022, 07:12:00 PM
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Yeah, lets not jump ahead of ourselves. It's being reported by newspapers, rather than reputable sources. Until it's proven, we won't know. At the moment, it's just allegations, and there's no way that they've already proven this.

It's a Qatar, so there's going to be all sorts of drama's over the next month. We already know what's happened prior to the event, which has obviously fuelled these allegations, and I suspect it won't be the last. I do think there needs to be a thorough investigation done to the people who died building the stadiums, that goes without saying. However, I'm not just going to believe allegations based on that.
I am still neutral here about Qatar and maybe you are right that we will see a lot of drama during the event. I will not immediately believe that these bribery allegations are true until proven by a direct investigation by FIFA.

Despite all these accusations, I believe that football always involves money, but it may not involve the state directly, but certain individuals who have an interest. However, we will get to know the facts later because now no one should need to believe in unproven accusations.

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November 19, 2022, 07:20:48 PM
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I am not a football fan but this is not good for Football sports and the World cup the organizers should do an investigation into the credibility of the events in doubt who would want to see a sporting event where you already know the result this is the number one sport in the world the football community should move to stop corruptions the event will end up not who's the better team but who's country can afford to bribe players, we'll see in the actual game if they will deliberately lose to Qatar, but if Qatar loses then the rumor is not true.

FIFA as an organization does not take bribery allegations lightly because they can kill the beautiful game of football. We have also heard of many news bribe scandals that rocked FIFA during the host bidding stage and it was investigated accordingly. I am not also surprised about this news because Qatar is very desperate to make an impact in this world cup. Ecuador players might be tempted to collect the bribe if they have no intentions of making an impact in this world cup and if most of them have a poverty mentality.

Im not surprised if this is actually truth but i think we wont actually know for sure unless there is some hardcore facts. If Qatar wins the first game everybody will think that it was fixed probobly. The odds on this match havent dropped so i think no body yet bited this rumour.
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November 19, 2022, 07:55:27 PM
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I am not a football fan but this is not good for Football sports and the World cup the organizers should do an investigation into the credibility of the events in doubt who would want to see a sporting event where you already know the result this is the number one sport in the world the football community should move to stop corruptions the event will end up not who's the better team but who's country can afford to bribe players, we'll see in the actual game if they will deliberately lose to Qatar, but if Qatar loses then the rumor is not true.

FIFA as an organization does not take bribery allegations lightly because they can kill the beautiful game of football. We have also heard of many news bribe scandals that rocked FIFA during the host bidding stage and it was investigated accordingly. I am not also surprised about this news because Qatar is very desperate to make an impact in this world cup. Ecuador players might be tempted to collect the bribe if they have no intentions of making an impact in this world cup and if most of them have a poverty mentality.

Im not surprised if this is actually truth but i think we wont actually know for sure unless there is some hardcore facts. If Qatar wins the first game everybody will think that it was fixed probobly. The odds on this match havent dropped so i think no body yet bited this rumour.
Anything can happen since they are not qualified to even host the world cup and now they are scared to play their opening match with Ecuador and win instead they want to use money to buy their winning. FIFA should make sure that this board is unique by avoiding bribes and punish any player or country that is caught in the act.

FIFA is also a corrupt body and I wonder how they can fight corruption, is it that money can  make impossibilities possible I guess no. I will advice everybody not to place a bet on that match because we can't predict the outcome based on the information on ground.

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November 19, 2022, 07:59:31 PM
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I am not a football fan but this is not good for Football sports and the World cup the organizers should do an investigation into the credibility of the events in doubt who would want to see a sporting event where you already know the result this is the number one sport in the world the football community should move to stop corruptions the event will end up not who's the better team but who's country can afford to bribe players, we'll see in the actual game if they will deliberately lose to Qatar, but if Qatar loses then the rumor is not true.

FIFA as an organization does not take bribery allegations lightly because they can kill the beautiful game of football. We have also heard of many news bribe scandals that rocked FIFA during the host bidding stage and it was investigated accordingly. I am not also surprised about this news because Qatar is very desperate to make an impact in this world cup. Ecuador players might be tempted to collect the bribe if they have no intentions of making an impact in this world cup and if most of them have a poverty mentality.

Im not surprised if this is actually truth but i think we wont actually know for sure unless there is some hardcore facts. If Qatar wins the first game everybody will think that it was fixed probobly. The odds on this match havent dropped so i think no body yet bited this rumour.
Anything can happen since they are not qualified to even host the world cup and now they are scared to play their opening match with Ecuador and win instead they want to use money to buy their winning. FIFA should make sure that this board is unique by avoiding bribes and punish any player or country that is caught in the act.

FIFA is also a corrupt body and I wonder how they can fight corruption, is it that money can  make impossibilities possible I guess no. I will advice everybody not to place a bet on that match because we can't predict the outcome based on the information on ground.

I do agree though, FIFA as a sports governing body is very corrupt, even for the voting as we will be the President involves bribe money and even countries that want to host the event. So let's see how quick and swift their form of justice here, specially against Qatar.

Definitely, we may want to stay away from matches that involves the host city and Ecuador. Or we need a keen eye as who's athlete seems to be not bringing his A game here. For now, everyone is a suspect.

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November 19, 2022, 08:05:45 PM
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It's one of those hot news, and you can find in almost all the Newspapers.

It looks like Qatar bribed eight Ecuadorian players for $7.4 millions to lose the wold cup opener. And this isn't weird to me, i mean if they already pay a shit ton of money to have the world cup in their country then we can expect from this world cup to be the most corrupt event in the Soccer history.

If this news come out to be true after real investigation is done, this tournament will be the most corrupt of match rigging in my opinion. Anyway you said it looks like so we are going to keep our eyes open to see how the opening match will turn out because that will be the first text of rigging. I expect that allegations of match fixing should be heard towards the end of the world cup and not at the start of the tournament and the first game for that matter.
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November 19, 2022, 08:25:06 PM
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I'd love for this to be investigated and see whether it is real or not, I am not trying to defend Qatar or anything but players personally claiming that they were bribed is a big deal. they are a celebrity and they can influence a lot of people if they said something that could tarnish someone's reputation it should be taken seriously.
this news of bribing and match-fixing has gone so much viral, it is not a good thing for the body of FIFA, I believe this news would be investigated in a short period of time.
If this matter is left uninvestigated it will affect the general well-being of FIFA and will ruin the reputation of the players that are involved in this very saga. I will avoid betting on the opening match of the World Cup no matter how sweet the odds appear.
Exactly, and if they are going to investigate they shoulf start immediately since the accusation is quite big and scandalous. what more is that if Qatar won the opening match, their win would be riddled with scandals and could affect the teams morale.

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November 19, 2022, 08:40:16 PM
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Match fixes are quite common with that and there is even a documentary about it in Netflix, so you just know that if they have that they have substantial evidence with how corrupt it is in general. Having it titled as FIFA uncovered, it already says, corrupt I think. Lol

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I think this new is not correct - these days news spread like wildfire and everyone wants to remain clean.
Brazil and argentina are the favourites of the world cup
What is the point you are trying to prove and is this the first time you are hearing of match-fixing, that is a common thing in football games as many global football games have been fixed several in the past and Qatar happens to be the spotlight of football events in this world cup and a lot of resources will be pushed in just to influence the outcome of some of their vital matches in the world up.

Am not saying the news is real because there has not been any price of that at the moment so the news remains just speculation.
We have too many speculations and allegations from first day of this event while this was in hosting process so right now talking its speculation or right no one can give clear reply but for me, we can expect things like these from them because they have reputation for having use of money for their own cause and mostly this works for them even in this case if anything wrong happen then FIFA could be tough, and we can expect harsh punishments and other penalties as well because Qatar officials without any doubt are desperate for the win of first match.

Now, with this all if they won this match on merit then still many doubts and suspiciously is going to work around with surely this is going to be one of the most controversial events in soccer history because too many problems and now sudden ban on alcohol just before few days is also having another controversy.

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November 19, 2022, 08:56:41 PM
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It looks like Qatar bribed eight Ecuadorian players for $7.4 millions to lose the world cup opener.
If Qatar could bribe Equador for the first game, it is also likely that they bribed their way through to win the rights to host this world cup. I thought they were a really religious country with strict rules. If they really bribed their way through and made this bribe to Equador players, then they are just mere hypocrites. Bribing will not get them far since they cannot and it is impossible to give bribe to all the team that are in the world cup to represent.

I really don't believe the accusation and even if the result would turnout to be in favor of the Qataris with the 1 Nil predicted scoreline, I would still love to believe that it was just all a mere coincidence, that we all come about when making predictions and bets, I supposed there is way on the line not just for the players or team in question and $7.4 million despite being a significant some in even first world countries, in exchange for winning the match, seem way more less to the damaged and unrest that such an antics would cause to the already controversial winter-hosting of the event.

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November 19, 2022, 10:02:39 PM
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I also heard this news but I'm still not sure about the truth, therefore I still believe Qatar will win with a narrow score of 1 - 0 against Ecuador later in the opening ceremony of the world cup because this is a prestigious event, of course Qatar wants its country to qualify for the last 16, soon world cup is about to start
There have been numerous rumors spreading regarding Qatar buying off FIFA officials. I sincerely hope that Qatar did not buy the match. For many of those Ecuadorian footballers, $7 million is a huge sum of money. But if Qatar actually did that, it wouldn't surprise me. Despite this, my bet is on Ecuador to win the game, if you ask me. Because of how weak their team is, Qatar will not move on to the next round of the competition.



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November 19, 2022, 10:19:19 PM
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It looks like Qatar bribed eight Ecuadorian players for $7.4 millions to lose the world cup opener.
If Qatar could bribe Equador for the first game, it is also likely that they bribed their way through to win the rights to host this world cup. I thought they were a really religious country with strict rules. If they really bribed their way through and made this bribe to Equador players, then they are just mere hypocrites. Bribing will not get them far since they cannot and it is impossible to give bribe to all the team that are in the world cup to represent.

I really don't believe the accusation and even if the result would turnout to be in favor of the Qataris with the 1 Nil predicted scoreline, I would still love to believe that it was just all a mere coincidence, that we all come about when making predictions and bets, I supposed there is way on the line not just for the players or team in question and $7.4 million despite being a significant some in even first world countries, in exchange for winning the match, seem way more less to the damaged and unrest that such an antics would cause to the already controversial winter-hosting of the event.
Qatar hosting the event itself a controversy. This might be a way to add oil to the burning fire. This is like FIFA needs to be organized by the European and American countries. This is the first time an Asian country hosting the event. Earlier South Korea and Japan co-hosted the event in the year 2002. If we check the old history of such news during the start of the events, we'll get to know whether this is just a pass-on news or got real information.

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November 19, 2022, 10:21:22 PM
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Yeah, lets not jump ahead of ourselves. It's being reported by newspapers, rather than reputable sources. Until it's proven, we won't know. At the moment, it's just allegations, and there's no way that they've already proven this.

It's a Qatar, so there's going to be all sorts of drama's over the next month. We already know what's happened prior to the event, which has obviously fuelled these allegations, and I suspect it won't be the last. I do think there needs to be a thorough investigation done to the people who died building the stadiums, that goes without saying. However, I'm not just going to believe allegations based on that.
I am still neutral here about Qatar and maybe you are right that we will see a lot of drama during the event. I will not immediately believe that these bribery allegations are true until proven by a direct investigation by FIFA.

Well, there is no evidence of the transaction that will prove that Qatar bribed those 8 players.  If there is no proof then it is just a rumor.  Not because many news articles picked up on that malicious tweet,  it is true.  So it is right to just be on a neutral stance here unless the person who tweeted produces evidence that will prove his tweet to be true.  I bet, that person will be facing criminal charges soon.

Despite all these accusations, I believe that football always involves money, but it may not involve the state directly, but certain individuals who have an interest. However, we will get to know the facts later because now no one should need to believe in unproven accusations.

Game fixing already exists in sports whatever it is kind.  It is that the agreement and process are kept secret so there are only a few cases[1] that were known to the public.



[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_match-fixing_incidents

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November 19, 2022, 10:35:03 PM
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I didn't expect World Cup to start this way with bribing of players, but this was always happening in all competitions.
Maybe it's good that this news was exposed and published, players could reject any deals they made previously, and this should be investigated later.

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Last edit: November 19, 2022, 11:24:52 PM by AmoreJaz
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I didn't expect World Cup to start this way with bribing of players, but this was always happening in all competitions.
Maybe it's good that this news was exposed and published, players could reject any deals they made previously, and this should be investigated later.

if this is just a rumor, then i can say, where there's smoke, there's fire. we may not see the proof but such issue will stick to the minds of the people. not a good start, but i believe, the winner for this world cup will do their best to achieve such title. we may see anomalies if we will look hard about the performance of each country as compared to their previous performance. but of course, it depends also on the lineup of their athletes.

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November 19, 2022, 11:45:22 PM
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It's one of those hot news, and you can find in almost all the Newspapers.

It looks like Qatar bribed eight Ecuadorian players for $7.4 millions to lose the wold cup opener. And this isn't weird to me, i mean if they already pay a shit ton of money to have the world cup in their country then we can expect from this world cup to be the most corrupt event in the Soccer history.

Some sources:
https://sportsbrief.com/football/28069-reports-qatar-bribed-ecuadorian-players-74-million-lose-opener/
https://www.marca.com/en/world-cup/2022/11/18/6376cfc7ca4741cc208b4573.html

Right now odds pays x3.26 if Qatar win, i know is a risky bet but i'm almost sure they will win. Will you place bets on this game after knowing about the bribe?

For me after all of this news im honestly confused. I have Ecuador to win but now im confused and dont know what will happen. Now probobly the players of Ecuador are scared so even if the bribe was real that wont happen now. So really looking forward to seeing what will happen
You can rest assured. Of course, Ecuador is a very strong team. Ecuador will have the best chance of winning this match if there is no drama in the match.Ecuadorian players are scared because they have to play against Qatar in Qatar's field. But we always hope that there will be no drama in this match.A very nice and fair match gift between Qatar and Ecuador.
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Match fixes are quite common with that and there is even a documentary about it in Netflix, so you just know that if they have that they have substantial evidence with how corrupt it is in general. Having it titled as FIFA uncovered, it already says, corrupt I think. Lol
They are quite common but I don't believe with such a high profile event such as this one that only occurs every 4 years it happening.
If there is any corruption then I would assume the proper actions would be taken if there is any clear evidence of colluding with match fixing for the host.

The odds were 3.25x earlier today for Qatar but last I looked they have been increasing by 0.10x every so often.
So I don't think people are buying into the news of anything like this is actually happening. Especially for the very first match of the tournament.

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November 20, 2022, 12:33:25 AM
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Match fixes are quite common with that and there is even a documentary about it in Netflix, so you just know that if they have that they have substantial evidence with how corrupt it is in general. Having it titled as FIFA uncovered, it already says, corrupt I think. Lol
They are quite common but I don't believe with such a high profile event such as this one that only occurs every 4 years it happening.
If there is any corruption then I would assume the proper actions would be taken if there is any clear evidence of colluding with match fixing for the host.

The odds were 3.25x earlier today for Qatar but last I looked they have been increasing by 0.10x every so often.
So I don't think people are buying into the news of anything like this is actually happening. Especially for the very first match of the tournament.

I really don't think people are buying it and they shouldn't either, I'm sure there are even be bigger parties (like odds maker) at play that would put even more than that on the one the line to get a fair tournament.

As I always say, that these days the bigger the event the lesser the chances of it being fixed, perhaps I'm just that naive. If they're able to buy their way against Ecuador, and it's probably easier for some people to believe for such simply because how they probably rate the Ecuador team, I mean no disrespect to the aforementioned team and theirs, but would the story and amount in question if they were playing against a team like Brazil, Engalnd or France where most of their players are earning close or more than what each of those supposedly bribed players would have gotten from that money in less than a month at their various clubs.

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November 20, 2022, 08:19:21 AM
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If that's true then it's worse for football and remember what happened to some of the bribery cases I think this will be investigated if true, again if true, and I quite doubt it's true don't think Qatar will damage their reputation with corrupt behavior this is because they have spent so much money for this tournament so it's a bit impossible that they will ruin all their hard work just because they want to look great and win matches where their people might realize that they are one of the weakest teams not only in this World Cup but also in the group
Damage? Qatar literally bribed Fifa to host this world cup, then ended up killing THOUSANDS of people to build the stadiums, enslaved them, not even allowed them to speak to their families when something happened, all those workers weren't even compensated, neither their families, many injured, and you think that their reputation could be damaged?

I tell you what, if an English team goes up on sale, and a person from Qatar wants to buy it, English fans will line up to kiss their feet so that they can get some money and success. Look at Newcastle, they got a literal murderer and someone who ignores human rights, and yet they loved it when he bought the club so they can see some success.
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