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So i wanted to share the things i have noticed before when i was regularly visiting a land base casino during weekend and sometimes after work. I have noticed several times when a person was winning more than the usual in poker, i usually approach that person after he left the table what was his secret for those wins, i was literally surprised because 7 of 10 people whom i have asked answered they play gambling trying not to win but to have fun after a long tiring week of work or business.

Does anyone of you thought that playing for fun helps you think better and win with less effort especially in poker than having the mindset of trying to win? Because when you are trying your hard to win, it will make you overthink and that your mental state will get stressed out.
I think this will work for both land base and online casinos.

Playing for fun might help someone to win but the person should consider a big win a lucky day because playing for fun does not guarantee winning, it only guarantee not to get addicted if you have the right mindset.

Play for fun can be different too, some people can say they are playing for fun and also fun to spend high amount of money on gambling, that is a false sense of fun, it is not fun but addiction or irresponsible gambling.

Be it playing for fun or playing for anything, what is most important is to never go beyond your gambling budget, which means you have control over it.

Playing for fun does not increase your chances because of better probability. But it can help in other ways like you will be playing with relaxed mind. On the other hand, if you want to play to win every games, you will get tensed up with every loss. That will result in more mistakes also and thus you will loose more. Moreover, you will not be able to enjoy the game as well which should be the primary aim to visit these gambling sites. You should be there to have fun. If you make some profit there, consider it as a bonus.

It's all about suggestions, so even if you gamble with the aim of having fun, it doesn't guarantee that you will get a profit. I believe the person you are asking does not represent the context of winning but rather controlling gambling which encourages one not to be addicted. With the aim of having fun, winning or losing will make you freer, there is no pressure and you don't demand anything because from the start you are prepared for the risk of losing.

Maybe they just want to enjoy relaxing and playing poker together without trying to chase victory. Whatever results they get, that's what they will bring home and maybe after leaving the casino, they will forget what they experienced at the gambling table. That's how we should treat gambling so that if we lose, it doesn't become a burden for us, especially if our goal is just to have fun and spend time hanging out with friends while playing gambling.

It will work for both land and online casinos and depends on how we react to it because if we only want to find victory from gambling, it will be difficult to get. After all, we might experience big losses. We should enjoy our time to gamble and not chase victory. After all, who knows, we might even win a few dollars.

It depends on what kind of gambler we are talking about, the casual gamblers who visits casinos on weekends for hanging out while spending some money can give relief from their work or business stress but it doesn't have any direct proportion with our chances of winning since it totally random.

Talking about poker, its not about winning its all about making others think that you are going to win. :)

I play for fun and to win, even though I know the odds are stacked against me and that my favorite casino game-slot-is primarily a game of chance. But since it is my hard-earned money I am wagering, I need to have some sense of winning. Gambling is both entertainment and serious business for me.

Usually, I visit a brick-and-mortar casino with friends. We drink, we eat, we catch up, and we play games. This is the fun part of it. We just soak ourselves up in the environment, the ambience, the laughter, etc. A similar thing goes for when I visit online casinos. I may play a slot theme that resembles a movie I've seen in the past or something I feel remotely connected to. I try to enjoy the graphics, the sound, and many more. I have been fortunate to have some winnings and encounter losses as well. All in all, I do my best to gamble responsibly, which is always the best way to have fun.

As far as I know, the game of poker is one of the most ideal gambling bets that many gamblers enjoy doing, whether on the online website or in a land casino, Poker is also a place of entertainment, because poker can train bettors themselves in setting strategies to determine loses and wins.

Winning and losing at the poker table is largely determined by the players themselves, I often see poker bettors who often win, these people look very relaxed, they don't show mentality and stress to opponents, this can make it easy for your opponent to read expressions or in other words you can read facial expressions, if your opponent understands psychology, for this reason we often see people who are relaxed at their table who often win.

different from what we do at the online poker table, you really have to understand the dealer / opponent card, facial expressions are not needed, strategy and expertise are the main thing.

No, what it helps you to do is to screw up less.

In any case, your observation is not very scientific.


Several times, 7 out of 10 of what happens in the short term, it is likely to be a coincidence.

This is bullshit and probably they just want you to back off since no one in the right mind that will share their secret on winning on a competitive game like poker. Imagine these will share you their secret and you play against them. They will surely loss because you already knew their secret on winning.

In poker game. Probability and psychology is the best weapon to consistently win since you are playing against players. Playing just for fun doesn’t affect the outcome of any game even slot games.

Hmmm maybe it could really helps, they just have that mindset that they are playing not to win all the rounds but to enjoy the every moment of it. Not all people can have that mindset because most of us and even me it is always in my mind that I need to win of course but they were this people that maybe they are too veteran in casinos they have already the money and all they just want to be entertained and luckily they are winning because if their positive energy towards the game.

While it's always a good idea to get tips from people who are successful at a certain activity and you might pick up an original angle, poker is a skill based game at the end of the day. You can get an edge over your opponent by knowing some basics like hand odds, expected value, positioning, how to read your opponent and much more. It's not some random magic and there is plenty of sources for education on this game, without asking random gamblers who might not have much time for you. It's nothing about "trying hard" to win, a solid poker player will know that streaks of bad luck and variance will effect them, but they stay consistent to win in the longer term.

I agree, there's no pressure if you're playing for fun, I have a lot of experience feeling pressured to win and eventually losing and having fun and winning, it applies to every game of chance and sometimes even in our situation in life if you are stressed you cannot think clearly and will commit a lot of errors and mistakes.
Solutions to problems and chances to win will come when you least expect them and they will come to your mind when there is no block to thinking of the solution, like pressure.

If you play for fun you do not make decisions based on what you think will make you the most money. A lot of gamblers keep going until they hit a big number but they usually lose it before they do. If you are having fun you do it to have fun and do not lose as much money because you will probably not chase big numbers and instead stop when you have had enough. Gambling is not a career and I know some people have made it into a career but they are usually trust funded people like Dan Bliz.

Whenever you have the mental picture of winning big in gambling it turns you to regularly losing your funds because you never placed a fun free lifestyle into it. But anything often go into the casino hall to catch cruise and enjoy yourself as well as easing yourself from stress after working for the whole day you won't know the winning will eventually take place and you will be amazed with the kind of winning prize you would see. I know too well that many people only gambling for a reason of making fortune out of it.

It helps you accept losses easily but I don't think that there's an actual basis for you to win more if you're just going to think of gambling for fun. You'll get to see that often on this section.

The mindset that it brings is what answers your question. When you're there for fun and you're not expecting a lot and winning, whatever the result of it is you're going to love.

Playing for fun wont help you to win, luck is the only one thing that help you to win.
Even if you do gamble for fun, you will not able to deny that you are also looking for a win.
The only positive side of gambling for fun is that you will be able to accept the losses which means that losses will not make you regret it too much. 

I'm sure this isn't something scientific, but I sometimes notice that whenever I gamble and I'm too anxious, or I think too much of the money I wagered, or nervous that I would lose it, or that I need to win to make money, and so on, I would lose. I have to admit that I sometimes gamble with a little worry in mind because I could lose my money. Whenever I do this, I'm more likely to lose.

But whenever I don't think twice, betting without a slight doubt, or whenever I'm not bothered by the possibility of losing money, I normally win.

This is of course nothing logical. It may or may not be true at all. It's possible it's just a mere feeling or that I'm just overthinking. Reason would tell me that whatever the betting outcome is, it has nothing to do with how I feel. But it's always better to gamble with fun, though.

I don't think it's helping/increasing your winning rate as long as you don't have the cards to win and you are lucky and tricky. Well, it may help you to be a little bit more tricky/cautious while chasing the loss would definitely paralyze you from being tricky. I don't gamble for winning, I play because of fun. i can't say I have a lot of winning ratio in Poker but I didn't lose a lot either. I would only advise anyone not to chase the loss. It will help you to lose more.

I think this is talking about mentality and mastery of the mind, I'm sure people come to gambling to a certain extent they definitely want to have a win even though at first they intend to have fun, but the story you give seems like the person you are asking already has a lot of experience in gambling and has their own tricks. each in his winnings, setting the ambition to win and the greed with the intention of having fun I guess it's not a one year or two years experience player maybe it could be they played longer I think, because that kind of mentality takes quite a long time to get.

It could be. When you are very worried about making something work perfectly you tend to become more anxious and stressed, what difficults concentrating on the activity to do that right, with maximum efficiency. Inevitably, at some point you will make some mistakes during the game, which will prejudice your performance along the gambling session, while someone relaxed is more likely to have his mind working at his favor: thinking and executing movements smarter.

to be honest, this is how I feel. when I'm stressed because of a problem that I'm experiencing (problems in the family or business) then gambling is one way out for me to relax, I usually play slots and the thing that makes me feel relaxed from my problems is when I win in a few rounds, usually I will withdraw half of the winnings and play again until I feel bored or run out of capital.

from the catch the conclusion of what I experienced was, winning while gambling made my stress disappear and my goal was to play gambling to relieve stress at the beginning which helped me to win gambling (a little confusing but hopefully you understand what I mean).

This is a very good question. Personally, I think that the pursuit of money in gambling very often leads gamblers to mistakes, so I think that if a player is really focused only on the game, the probability that he will win is slightly higher.

The most interesting thing is that I have even met gamblers who pretend to play only for fun. This behavior really is still a mystery to me.

If it was me being asked what my secret is, I would be very alarmed. It's not usual and I thought 7 out of 10 would freak out after hearing the question lol

I would believe it helps if you think about winning if you think you are going to win while playing. It's a sure thing of gaining perspective. It's like you wish to get well when you are sick. The fun is just part of it.

Doing anything with not much of pressure in our mind will help us to reach what we are trying to achieve but it doesn't has anything to do with the gambling and I think from different perspective if someone is too confident and keep trying until he get back the loss but after a while he is losing more by chasing the loss.

Any gambler who once won at a land-based casino knows that when you leave the casino he is likely to meet a man who will ask one of the questions on how he manages to win, and most of us in such a case will say that just happened to be in the casino, as afraid of extra attention from the outside. I even remember that awkward feeling when they ask you that kind of question and you don't know what to answer.
 

It can be strange if I am the one approached and asked my secret for winning, I may not be so cooperative to tell my secret to just a stranger if there is really a secret to tell. Also you cannot just believe and trust anything you are told by a complete stranger just because it was labelled their winning strategy. You will surprised that maybe the day you met him and he won was just a lucky day after a series of losses. It takes a lot of personal conviction to set your mindset for gambling to just fun alone and not money making.

The Clients Seed and the Server Seed and the RTP and RNG does not care about your feelings, it just plays out the way it was supposed to do.  ;)

I think the important thing about emotions are "clear" thinking... so if you are losing and you are pushing to regain your losses, you go into degen mode and you lose more.

Do not bring any emotions into gambling, just have fun and let the client and server seed do it's thing... your destiny are already decided for you by the casino.  ;)

Most of them are lying but i cant say that they do actually lie because there are people who do really play gambling for the sake of entertainment but most of them would really be going after on making money.Of course they wont really be that too open when it comes whether they are making money or losing but since you had observed them about winning and leaving the table
then for sure its neither they are calling it a day or completely stop midway and would really be going again on tomorrow. Asking them about reasons or sharing up experiences
then you would definitely getting on the same responses.

Come to online or offline gambling and think about winning and looking for lots of profits, it will be a pressure that requires you to win when the game lasts. There will be no calm when you the first game you do lose and keep losing. It's different if gambling is just to fill their free time just as entertainment, they won't think about winning or losing. They just want to unwind and use the rest of the money they still have. When you win, the game ends and will stop, but for those who just want to make money and big profits, the first win is not a sign of stopping but it will be a starter to keep playing until you finally lose and lose everything.

Gambling is purely based on luck and the rest is skill and patience, you need to have that in gambling and it happens when you least expect a jackpot. Sometimes I play with the mindset of not expecting any good outcome and those are the best time I win games I never expected anything but the days I want the outcome so badly are the days I don't have luck on my side, it is not just casino alone, it's gambling nature.


There is this Russia Booky I gamble in, I have other guys that are well known with good predictions, there is nothing sure, just pure luck that people do copy their betting codes and play, most often than not, people win from these guys but when I try, I hardly win something big, the painful thing is that, its when I give up they usually win grand audit, you see why gambling pure luck by nature; jackpots happens when you least expect them.

Usually gamblers do stop when they dont have money on their pockets anymore which it would really be that a very common scenario and this is why when they are winning then most of us would still continue to play

until we do bust up all of those balances.It doesnt really give out that more winning chance when you are playing yourself for fun but on general sense then it must or should really be on that way.

Gambling is should for run but gamblers are really that aiming for money.Poker on real or physical casinos are really that much better rather than on playing online.
It is really that on different ambiance when you are really that dealing on something on face to face.

Maybe, the person you are asking just answered it formally without giving you the secret. because, in the game of poker you will always need expertise, skills as well as other things that are not like casino games which are purely based on luck. So, you don't have to completely believe it. talk have fun. we agree, psychologically if we play for fun it will slightly reduce stress levels. but even then on condition, you should not be controlled by emotions when what you expect is not in accordance with expectations. playing for fun in gambling, you can apply to any type of betting and not only in poker games. and don't we play gambling for fun, regardless of winning or losing. The point is, just playing for fun doesn't mean you're going to win. which in the end, gambling will always involve luck regardless of the type of bet.

You are telling the truth, yes. Finding a Stranger who will divulge some winning secrets is difficult. The only way to win at gambling, in my opinion, is to be lucky. I don't think there is any other way. The best strategy is to gamble for fun, as this will prevent you from becoming overly dependent on it or preoccupied with winning. Many people develop gambling addictions because they think they can survive by gambling, and as a result, they keep gambling without any restrictions.

Yes, poker is one of the gambling games that need skills and experience to win this game.
It is not about their luck about this game. Also, when it comes to decision, it is their skills that matters.
They are also not pressured to make a decision if they are just having fun. But don't apply these to other casino games.
You can't get the same results when you are playing luck-based games either in offline or online casinos.
But it is always better to use your own extra funds so you won't be having the pressure of chasing your winnings inside.

I guess that "trying hard" means playing with high bets at high odds... expecting some big hit or bonus round (if it comes to slots). Been there, done that... and in most cases, it's just a busted bankroll. I had some nice profits after playing like that, but overall I think I lost a lot more times than I won.

When playing relaxed, with patience, and without pushing "all the time", the chances for profit are higher. "Pushing" is a state of mind when we risk a lot to get a lucky hit which rarely comes, so we get disappointed and just continue to take the same risks until the total bust.

Are you sure those people tells you the truth? I dont really think gambling for fun will help you in winning, you might even be losing because you won't really pay attention, the only thing I know is that when you are gambling just for fun or relaxation will help you in fighting gambling addiction, but when you are gambling to win, you might easily get addicted to gambling which at the end you might endup losing lot's of money, because addicted gamblers don't gamble responsibly, they always make sure they use everything they are having just to gamble.

I play gambling not only for fun, but certainly for some profits too. But i never chase my losses because that will only make me fall into another losses and may even end up getting gambling addiction. This works for me in gambling through all these years. However, I would say that if you just gamble for fun without any profit intention, that would be much better because you won’t have to regret in the end if ever you lose huge amount but I believe most gamblers today do not just gamble for fun since they will do everything too so they can win significant amount of profits. But the most important is you are gambling responsibly and you never crossed your limits when gambling. That way, you will never fall to gambling addiction.

I believe that when you are playing a game that money is not involved, you will be relaxed,and bring out the best in you based on your game strategy. Likewise when you are gambling for fun, you don't need to stress your brain, instead you will be entertaining yourself because you are relaxed and calm. If you see gambling as a means of profit,when gambling you will be under pressure to win the game because you are after the money and this might destabilize your game strategy. Always be on a happy mood when gambling so that you will be able to control your emotions on not chasing your lost. If I take my gamble personal, I do lose all my games but when I see it as fun,I do win but not all the time.

It is not that gambling for fun helps you win, it is just that if you do something for fun you have better chances to improve faster and obtain a higher level of skill than if you do something because you have to, a clear case of this happens at schools all the time, if you like a particular subject then you will do better at it because you are willing to spend more time studying it, but if you hate it you will do a lot worse as you cannot force yourself to spend too much time reading about it, and whatever time you spend doing so is not effective due to your disgust for that subject in particular.

Playing for just the fun or playing while having fun are two contrasting statements. While one can consider fun as more booze or more of whatever makes the moment pleasurable, playing for just fun is more of playing like a hobby to relieve stress or unwind.
It is also true that if one gets too serious by trying too hard to win, there is every chance of possiblity the game won't pan out as planned.
It is good to play for just the fun, this way you don't build a pattern and thus dabble into addiction. The chances of winning big is also higher when playing for just fun because there is no pressure or competition too much to handle and the mind is free of burden.

Maybe they are trying to attract their luck by just thinking on a positive way and by this, they will enjoy more gambling without worrying that much since positive attitude can make your life more happy. This might be part of their belief, but then again there’s no assurance for this. I don’t think this way personally, I’m just too focus on my goal every time I gamble which is to enjoy and stay within my limit, your luck will still matter.

I think it depends completely on what game you play or gamble. In card games like Poker you need to be cautious and focused. So trying hard to win can create good results. Actually, it must create good results even, you are "working hard" to be successful. But in luck based games like jackpot, you should consider fun above anything else. Even if you care a lot, you will not get different result(s). Its gonna end at where your luck places you.

Attracting positive energy can be a big help, many are practicing this not just in gambling but also in real life, this can attract luck and maybe that’s why many are doing this because we all know gambling can be more stressful if you think too much about the money. Though I’m not like this, but I’m very positive in life and I just gamble with extra money so I’m free from worrying of losing and I just enjoy the moment.

Everyone has their own superstitions or methods that they follow when they are gambling. There are also certain gamblers who do not gamble on certain days and hours, which you could see as a kind of superstition that probably originated from a bad experience. If you are talking about betting on sports, perhaps you could limit yourself to betting on sports that you have at least some knowledge of and not take low leagues from unknown countries. There is also no live stream on it. A casino shouldn't matter but if you're going to play poker you have to be fit, then it's a different story and I understand the hours you don't play.

Playing for fun removes the tension and the pressure, and I think that somewhat helps you to make the right decisions and be in a winning position without you having to stress too much about it. That's what I noticed when I started playing purely for fun: I can convert some lose streaks into some greens just because I am composed and able to do a lot of better, informed decisions compared to when I'm playing for profit. Has something to do mainly with mind states and calmness for sure.

I like to play stress-free but that doesn't mean that I going to win it still depends on luck when playing in luck based casino and skill when it comes to sports betting, but playing for fun is good for your mental health, you're chances may be good when you can think clearly it's still based on player's experience I don't know if there are existing data that can prove that we have a very good chance when we are having fun, all I know it's important to enjoy the game because that's what casinos main purpose and why you're playing and if you win money that's a good incentive for you.

Not sure about it, but people who always focus on chasing winning should be difficult to enjoy the game and focus on it. While people who play for fun can enjoy the game and can focus on playing. It may help them a bit, focusing on the game may increase their chance to win. However, it is my guess only, I don't if it really works for everyone or not.

Sure, when you get stressed, it is more difficult to win the game. It is because you can't focus and your mind will be messed up.  ;D

That's right! They were probably trying to brush him off and thus answering without really giving out any hints. In other words they were acting cool.

This "strategy" can help when you're making mistakes under pressure and often feel stressed while playing. In such case you should pick the amount of money you wouldn't feel bad losing and think of the casino like going to the movies or to a club. You pay some money like $50 for time you spend there and don't expect to come back with more money.

Are you serious? Didn't you know that it's annoying to be asked that kind of question in the casino? :)

Poker is a mind game and is in need a good strategy to win therefore you need to have a relaxed and calm mind during every session in order to execute properly your strategies. If you play poker while being in panic and pressured, definitely you can't think of a good strategy to win and that will lead to losing, obviously.

If those guys are doing fun and winning, basically they know what they're doing.

No one will reveal their secret to anyone.  That is a generic reply to play it safe.  Don't be naive and believe what those people stated.


Gambling result is random , may you play to win or play for fun, winning is unsure.  As I said the result will always be random and the reason of a person playing has nothing to do with the result of the game.


That is also what I am trying to say.  People will never reveal their secret.  It is not good to have a competitor,. we all know that.

Well, playing for fun helps you to have a better mood, which mean you may have a better decision-making while playing. Most likely, it is only applicable for skill-based games like poker, not on some RNG games like slots.
Also, playing for fun always reduces frustrations.

Those that you've asked and if they're winning, they won't say anything for real. The chances that a few of them are saying the truth is slim.

Every gambling game will be said to be played for fun only. You don't have hard feelings into it when you lose and if you say that you're gambling for the money, you're doing it wrong. But if it helps you to think and will push you outside of stress, you know what's best for you and how to think of it.

Do not believe in "road tales".  That is, believe in the player you are, there is no hidden science with that, if you ever win something in a bet without having the slightest idea how it happened, do not attribute it to a state of mind , that is a part of achieving that victory. 

In fact you should be in a good mood when you lose too, that is certainly an attitude that strengthens being a happy winner in the long run.

You mentioned poker, well, well they say it only takes a few minutes to learn the game and a lifetime to master. 

So, mastering the variance of the game, any type of game, requires a lot of knowledge, skills and surely always having a good mood, sometimes more, sometimes less, but happiness is not directly proportional to being a winner.

Lol, if I have no idea why I won in a game, I will refer to it as luck and I wonder how can I affiliate that to achieving victory?


True, don't ever take any loses in gambling to heart.  Just learn from it, do not seek revenge nor chase losses since if we do that, we will lose more in the end.


Not only knowledge but needs a lot of practical hands-on in the game. We need a lot of practice to know which one is effective against our opponent.  After all poker is a game that needs keen observations and lots of bluffing.

Don't take that seriously, I guess. As you are a total stranger to those you reached out to and then suddenly will ask that question out of nowhere, do you really expect they have time to chitchat with you and provide you with the details about their strategy?

In order to end the discussion right away, I will also respond that I'm just having fun and then walk away from you.

But to answer your question, there's no technical and direct relation that a positive mindset will give you a win but since we are talking gambling here, a positive mindset will surely help us thinks of a good strategy to win in a strategy-based game like poker. Can't imagine a person playing poker without that mindset.

Playing for fun ironically will improve chances of winning overall, it means the player is not overly focused on just cash wins but can be more relaxed and address the game better.    It will apply online as well as many other types of betting.  Just trying too hard to reach something can be like a carrot and stick type move where it becomes harder for trying to reach that perfect win scenario
  A compromise is to try for the daily wins rather then the one big win, split up your money to regularly gamble and it'll destress that one particular session of betting as you know you will be returning to try again you can relax a bit and just play for today.

Well... I confess that I don't know if there is a precise answer to what you asked...
But I imagine that this may be related to the player's mentality, honestly, I believe that this could help, but on the other hand it may not have an effect, I believe that this is a bit relative and in a way it can help some players and maybe others no..

Well, a factor that I also imagine can have an effect, is because you are playing without having any pressure, because, most of the time, most bettors/players, when they put in their mind that they need to win, this could get in the way. them, because I have no doubt that this will generate pressure and stress the player
ps: I imagine this doesn't only apply to gambling/poker, but to many other sports as well!

Poker games are the kind of games that need to have skills, do not depend on luck, in this case the person will need to be calm and create strategies that allow them to win, if that person does not put in the head that needs to win so that person will not create No strategy and will lose when playing, I mean that it is useless to go to play for diverse to make a lot of money without having to win and created strategies, slot games and other games involving luck are the Type of games where people should play for diverse only, they have no conditions for the person to make plans or strategies that allow them to win because they depend on luck.

I see a lot of people when they play when questions are asked, they never answer sincerely, they lie or hide their strategy and say random, and unbelievable things and see that right or most sites publish such things

It's what everybody is recommending to play for fun, even the casinos on their policy state that they are platforms of entertainment so have fun playing, playing for fun takes out the frustration, and it's good for well being, your chances are heightened if you can think clearly especially in sports betting when everything depends on how good you are in looking details.
Sometimes I'm tempted to go for the bucks but I made sure that my enjoyment gets the best of what I'm doing.

It will work but this depends on the person and the gambler who you are talking to.

Generally, a person who gambles purely for fun and entertainment are the ones who have a near-endless budget at their disposal. Sometimes, these gamblers are also the ones who gamble at the minimum rates as they enjoy the adrenaline of winning or losing, regardless of the status of their current bets.

On the other hand, gamblers who chase for profits are usually the ones who fall into debt or loans. They seem to think that by betting or gambling, they can pay out any of their debts or outstanding obligations, not knowing that it will only further worsen their position.

Whether you play for fun, entertainment or to multiply the spending everything requires luck. If luck favours you, it'll be sure win. When you play for fun you make predictions in a better way than while you're in losing streak. Even when you're in a losing streak and have the mind to multiply the bet amount we'll have fear of losing and the same lets you play with fear. As said when one doesn't think of money his mind will be free and he could be making predictions in a funny way that had favoured him similar thing doesn't work with everyone.

That's their secret. Why should they tell you? Just kidding.

It doesn't make sense to play poker with negative mindset and not trying to win. It's more fun when winning therefore these players will surely wants to win.

I don't see why a poker player will play that game and not prepared to make an attempt winning.

I don't have the nerve to approach people though when they are winning in a land base casinos, sure I saw some big stack up of chips in front of them. But maybe this is just me or where I'm located at.


I must be one of those who says that yeah you can play for fun, but at the end of the day, you still wanted to win some money right? Maybe you have some funds and money to burn, and so there is no pressure on you and so in any case a win is a win. However, I disagree at some point, gambling is more fun if you win in the end, in my opinion.

Going for that less serious approach helps a bit but it's not the best suggestion when it comes to making profits because winning still doesn't happen that often even if you have a fun mindset and at that point, it becomes a bonus given that your main reason for gambling is to have fun and get entertained. There's nothing wrong with trying hard though and you can still avoid stress and other issues that affect your mental health as long as you make the necessary steps and solutions while playing.

Originally, gambling should be done for fun and nothing else because that is the right mindset and in the norms gambling in meant for the enjoyment of it and if anything else is added to that that is an extra task that could add more pressure to the individual gambler.

-But then playing for fun does not enhance your winning ability and possibility,  since gambling is a game of luck and at the same time it depends on skill to enhance the winning but not in all cases.,  what am saying in essence is that gambling should be taken for what it is which is seeking fun and not allow it to become a habit which is possible.

Everyone won't be able to consider this way. People just spend for entertainment, and never think about the money spent. It helps to have fun and to spend time. When it comes to gambling people's minds haven't prepared to consider gambling same as what they do with some sort of other entertainment activities. It is true, gambling is to have fun and it is normal to spend. On the go automatically people expect something to happen out of the gambling. This is where everything goes away from the objective of fun towards money making which makes gambling riskier.

It only helps you to have a better mood and enjoy the games. Especially if you are gambling to unwind, forget the toxic relationship or environment in the office or wherever, this kind of behavior in casinos would make everything light and fun. But I don't agree that it will help you win. Your mood doesn't have anything to do with what cards you will get when the dealer deals you your cards. It doesn't have anything to do with what hand you will have. But win or lose, that kind of behavior will give you a good time.

It's all really just luck, aka math, probabilities.

So, it's independent really of how you feel... I mean, you can throw a dice and feel relaxed and it will still have 1/6 chances of getting a 6. Same if you're stressed, still 1/6.

Now, there's also the fact that when someone is just having fun, they can more easily just walk away after a winning hand, which might help in actually earning something.

Agree, everyone has an interest in gambling. If someone says that he is into gambling only for enjoyment and spending money then it would be a lie. Because all of us who participate in gambling intent to win. More or less everyone regrets when losing a gamble. This is common situation in gambling. A large number of people have a lot of money it doesn't mean that they gamble just for fun. The reality is that he tries to increase his money but hides it for others. After all every gambler should exercise caution. He should gamble only as much as he is prepared to lose.

I think casino games can make gambling fun and exhilarating, and the uncertainty of whether you will win or lose makes gambling so much fun.
and even more fun if the victory is obtained. So taking risks in gambling with your own money is very profitable, especially if you can win and beat the dealer or casino or other players with the skills and strategies that we have. Like the game of poker which in my opinion is a fun game and can compete with strategy, mentality and adrenaline which makes us even more fun, especially playing it for real because we can easily read the bodies of other players.

because when gamblers gamble just for fun, they keep a relaxed mindset and don't get too emotional about anything like a losing streak. On the other hand, gamblers who only bet for fun, they have a broader mind to keep strategizing to win and of course they also use the money they can afford to lose. so gamblers who are just having fun will have more chances of winning.

different from gamblers who think too much about winning. because in the gambler's mind he only wins and when he loses once he will be very emotional and find it difficult to control himself. so he will chase defeat by increasing the number of bets without realizing that his money has run out.


like the example of a gambler who has fun using money he can afford to lose. when you lose, so be it, this is just a game for fun.
but the gambler who thinks of winning uses funds that cannot afford to lose and hopes that his money can be multiplied into more and when he gets a little loss he gets emotional without being able to control himself.


so in conclusion all of this only depends on the psychological state of the gambler. if a gambler has a calm heart and mind, they will have more freedom to strategize.

Gambling, aside sports betting, all depends on luck, gambling for fun or what ever does and will not increase not increase ones chances of winning, though it does help the gambler have rest of mind and probably think better.
But now, moving on to poker, I've never played poker before, I do not know how the game works mechanically, but my guess is that its a game that involves both skill and luck as criterial to win, if this be the case, playing poker for fun still wont bring easy winning to the player, winning would be much dependent how how skillful the player is, and also coupled with how lucky.

People who get addicted to gambling are not playing for fun. How do you know if you are not playing for fun? First, you feel anxious about the outcome long before you even start playing. You may experience sweaty palms or a racing heartbeat. Secondly, wager way more than you can afford and lose track of time. Thirdly, you may go the whole day without food or drink because you are so engrossed in the gambling. This is no fun, and your chances of winning are slim because you are bound to make a lot of mistakes in judgement.

Well, it's a good mindset to play withough having an expectation to win and you're just doing it for fun, because you won't pressure yourself to profit. If you're too hopeful to win, it can lead to problems like unable to control yourself by chasing your losses and spending a money that you can't live without.

I'm also playing my favorite gambling game after a tiring day from work and if I have money meant for leisure, this is to entertain myself. It's more satisfying to win if you're less expecting it compared to gamblers who treat gambling as a way to gain huge in snap. Thus, it's important to set your mind to have a limit and gamble without expecting anything.

That's just a big pile of bullshit. Do you think Negreanu and Phil Ivey play for fun? The person who plays poker to win takes it as a job, mainly mental, based on a mixture of probability calculation and intuition.

Playing for fun is done by recreational players or fish, who lose in the long run, but obviously have winning sessions, otherwise they would not play.

What you express is a simple superstition like any other.

I think you are more likely to win in luck-based games when you are having fun, and the worst thing that comes out of it is that you had fun. Casino games are for entertainment purposes anyway, so why not treat them that way. Poker on the other hand might be another story. You can use a variety of strategy and focus on calculating in poker, which will increase your EV (expected value), which will ultimately help you win more often than if you were to just know the rules and play without applying any sort of strategy or focus on winning.

This is really my mindset when I gamble. I usually say to myself that this is for fun so that I could win, and I don't know what the explanations are, but it really attracts winnings to me. It is like buying tickets in the lottery; most of the people I know will really be claiming already that they will win, which is the opposite for me, as it would hurt me a lot if I lost, as I've not expected, and if I win, then that's the bonus of it. Though probably to others it may not work, for me, from what I've observed, it is working.

I believe it's just their lucky day and their mindset. Imagine going into the casino, and you are going to just play at the poker table and not having the mentality of "winning" the need to win feels, like it will just come naturally to you, and if you are lucky.

Additionally, the guy may be a pro in poker since it's more of a skill-based game instead of slots that are based on luck.

Well in gambling, we as a gambler should really consider just enjoying and winning is next to it. Because, if this becomes our main reason, I'm sure it will only bring us regret, stress, and frustration.

Because if all we're looking for is to have fun, even if we lose in gambling, we won't for sure feel regret for our lost gambling capital, because the word "at least we enjoy" makes sense.

A big yes.
The reason is it will make you feel relaxed and that will help a lot when you are playing poker. Your facial emotions will be valuable here, from having two aces in your hand or just bluffing.
There are players who can easily be read because of those facial emotions, but when you are relaxed, it will be hard for them to know what you are thinking.
This is also one of the reasons why ladies are good at playing the game. They are difficult to read and their face just says the same thing in every hand.

agree mate, because the more you seek for fun is the more you attract luck because of positivity than negative .
imagine always have happy thoughts in gambling and not taking it that serious to become millionaire in a split of a time? lol.
exactly , that is what I developed recently as i keep seeking to win and with that? i become greedy and not having correct thinking so it brings me bad outcome.


Play only for fun and limitation , that would gather more chances of winning .

I would say being lucky is most prominent thing when you are seeking profits in gambling as this whole game is of luck.If you play for fun then it's best as ig you don't win you won't feel too sad about it but when we are playing for other purposes then it can make us sad through loss.The chances will rise for winning when you are lucky according to me not if you are gambling for fun so it all depends on our personal opinions.

I am quite surprised that you mention poker as the one game where this should be the case. Poker is such a competitive game that I would have expected it to be the other way round, professional poker players who only focus on winning should be taking advantage of gamblers who only play a little for fun. I know this from the home casino in my city, and also in Las Vegas there are a lot of regular poker players that want to take advantage of the tourists who only come in town for a few days. In my opinion being not very competitive and focusing on winning is a problem in poker, because you need to stay focused for a long period of time. In poker there is no house edge, we only play against other gamblers, and the one that stays mentally strong the longest is likely going to win. Luck plays a big role at the beginning in poker, but the longer we play the smaller becomes the impact of luck and the more important is our strategy. 

Playing just for fun will only reduce pressure because the results will not affect us at all, winning or losing will be with the same response, namely just to have fun, but even though we play just for fun, it doesn't mean it will help us to be able to win, but more to be able to more relaxed while playing but all just about luck alone.

This is an amazing observation, and I think it is very accurate that for playing poker successfully you need a relaxed mind. And you are right, it works both for land-based casinos and online ones. For this very reason I never buy tickets for the amounts I can't easily afford to lose. I know that my eagerness to win will ruin the game for me.

I don't where did I read this, but I saw a quote that has a "Don't chase money" on it.
Anyway, chasing for money is just a waste. I mean why gamble for the sake of money if you can gamble for the sake of fun right?

Gambling just to chase money will just lead you to bad decisions especially when you are losing, you tend to decide worse thus, letting you lose money even more. If you're gambling because it's your stress reliever then losing your money doesn't matter that much to you. As for me, I'm only gambling for fun, and it makes me even more excited to watch sports game (since I'm betting mostly on sports). I don't watch games that much if I'm not gambling.

Just don't chase winnings especially when it comes to gambling where there is a high chance that you might lose your money.

I also bet for fun because when I play to win I realize that greed beats me and I realize that I don't enjoy what I'm doing. Also, even if one day I become an inveterate gambler, I will never consider gambling a job. I don't think it's a job, I think it's a means of entertainment. That's why I bet just for fun and try to enjoy gambling to enjoy the moment. Of course, my thoughts on the subject don't make me a consistently winning gambler, but they do make me one who enjoys gambling.

I agree. Betting for fun is way less stressing than betting big. And it gives you the gambling dopamine rush without so much the gambling money loss aspect of the casino experience  ::)

The amount of money you should gamble is something that nobody else can decide for you. You should look at how much of your monthly income you can spare and not go beyond that number. For me, 10% from the "fun funds" of the income pie is just right.

For example: If you have 400 dollars for fun (drinking, partying, gambling etc.) then only 40 of those dollars should go to gambling.

I play slots just for fun and don't think about the wins I can get and I think that's what I also do when I play gambling in other gambling games. Expecting to win can make us lose more money because gambling can give us more losses. And when we lose, we can spend more money to recover our previous losses and still want to get bigger wins. And I think that's normal for people who play poker. And as long as they only think gambling is just for fun, I think they will enjoy it.

Fun is a condition when you feel happy about something. If you play for fun, you shouldn't make high bets. For example, you want to have fun with $50 that is the limit, if you lose you stop. @mu_enrico reminded me to play once a week to prevent addiction and keep it fun always limit your deposit.  ;D

It's fun to win, this will lead to addiction, because I've been in this position. At first I played slots for fun, but got max-win. then, I play for fun and win, from once a week, then play 3 times a week, until playing every day for around 4 months. Increase the deposit amount and lose. And no more fun for me. To stop playing slots with real money, now i'm back to playing MOBA games with my friends. And sometimes playing mobile casino games. At least never make any deposit for this game.

Playing to win, more worse than I've ever experienced. Because 100% play to win, and will do gambling continuously.

Meaning also we don't get hurt when we lose because we just play it for fun and we are not expecting a return that will make us disappointed. It is really stressful if you expect to win but turns out you are on lose streak this will lead to your emotion triggering that you'll need to chase up losses. Though others will really claim to win in specific games as it attracts lucks for them but other didn't. We do have our own perspective on this, but it doesn't mean that we noticed it on our own, it is the same with others too.

I will call it a bullshit, when someone have a good money management, can control his own emotion, gamble to get fun etc, these thing will not increase your luck! it's just your own mindset to think it will give you a good luck. You can try to gamble without to make money, try until millions of bet, then we will see you will lose in the long run because the house edge will make you lose.

Because there are types or classes of gamblers who only gamble to entertain themselves, we may not know that other gamblers are going through something and gambling may be their way to relieve them.

Because I sometimes think when I want to be alone, I do gambling because I can think clearly and at the same time I also feel fun what I play in gambling.

Basically, if you play just for fun you will be more relaxed and can easily make an informed decision on the games you play so the ops you ask the question is very correct to say because he plays for fun make him win more.
But in other cases, we have some other people who take gambling as a means of passive income, those class of players also win most times and this is because of their experiences, and unwavering zeal to win gambling for fun winning is based on luck but sometimes there is more to winning than luck.

Yep, but it doesn't mean that it could really the rason why he won that game. But we all know that our emotions plays a big role in our playing. We can also say that the more we are too emotional like we are being frustrated and such that's when we start to have a series of losestreak. That's what I observe when I am playing dice years before because now I am more happy playing bets in sports game.

I agree that gambling for fun helps you think better or be more level-headed when gambling or playing poker but it doesn't really help you win with "less effort". I mean, you can be gambling for fun but you can still put in the same effort as the person who gambles that wants to win. gambling for fun doesn't really mean you don't want to win, trying to win is part of making the gambling fun. the good thing about gambling for fun is that losing doesn't really bother you that much.

Gambling for fun helps you gain acquaintance and enables you to be more diplomatic. losing doesn't bother you that much??
Well, I think this is for someone who on the consistency of winning, for some of us, even the least of currencies bother us

Seeing gambling as a serious business is not the best option. This is because gambling is unpredictable and mainly a game of luck. One cannot be able to predict the outcome of games even when we have carried out enough analysis. Losing might lead to uncontrollable anger,  drug use, ill health, and even death. If you see gambling as entertainment you will always stake what you can afford to lose which might reduce misbehavior after losing. If you want to enjoy gambling like fine wine, play games for pleasure and don't see it as a main source of income.

I think this is a fact you should take note of in gambling, the more desperate you're in winning the more you attempts on loosing, but you you gambles with passion and total interest, you do some things which may sound nasty on other gambler as risk taking but you're taking that for fun after which the luck comes in through those means you took.


Yes and there's no explanation for this than trying it out yourself, gambling itself is all about fun, if you don't get the fun you can't have the win.

Actually in this case nothing really matters because it doesn't increase anything in terms of probability and win ratio it's just that there are other things because when we play for fun we will be much more relaxed and enjoy the game. This can actually be good mental health because the conditions are clearly very much different from playing a game that is only focused on winning and adds stress to the game being played.

I know it's weird but I think it does really work. Often times I noticed that I can win easily or I can hit those higher multipliers without even trying hard but then again I am only playing for fun so I just continue betting and increased my bets until I lose all my previous winnings :D. Luck does really have their expiration or should I say that house always win at the end, if you won't stop betting.

It wasn't poker is the one that I am playing but just those games which are mainly based on luck i.e dice and plinko. For a game like poker, I think we need to be mentally focused because this is the only thing to win the game unless if you are just lucky that your opponent is not really good at it.

They can explain anything if the situation when leaving the gambling table is winning. Experiments should also be conducted on those who leave the gambling table in a losing situation.

I personally think that the answers given are very selective because the person who is the subject of your question only answers what is being experienced. But with this answer for me there is a point because I have also been asked what is the secret behind the victory every time I leave the gambling table.

Players will never win in gambling. Maybe this sentence is familiar to gamblers. But anyway, just make it as entertainment not as a hobby. That's my advice.

Indeed, playing for fun is one good gambling strategy that helps to ease the player's curiousity and place them in a state of mind that'll help a player stake a standardized gaming strategy, which is their own gambling secret. What they told Op, is the only  available response he deserves because if they had told him their real playing method he may not understand it, as he needs to spend enough time with the winners to grasp completely how they win games. Therefore players should utilize the famous strategy; enjoy your habit. Then curate a method that works, it'll be easier to win not just the house but our opponents in card games.

But, does winning come often if you have a serious mindset? No I don't think so. In gambling, house do always have the advantage. This is why the majority don't take things complicated because at the end, there will always be one result. Trying too hard can only lead to disappointment but if one is eager to earn a profit, there are still other things that they can do which are more surer. If they think they are skillful enough, why can they can they just apply that skill in trading?

I am sure that will matter a lot. You are right, winning in gambling is only like a bonus. It was like a token of appreciation for being a loyal customer to the casino because you need to spend more time playing before you can be able to win in gambling.

There is no way one will play a poker game with no winning mindset,  how do these guys come about with this analysis anyways because I can imagine having a losing or fun mindset before approaching the poker table.

-Poker games have a lot of activities that make it play aggressively so every player will have a win-win mentality, and not just seek to have fun.,  gambling entails two attributes, and luck is one of the essential attributes.

Psychologically we will feel more relaxed, while doing a gambling session. because after all its original purpose is, just to have fun. the positive impact, we will not get high pressure that affects our emotions. however, that will not necessarily make us win gambling. be it a poker game as in the OP's discussion, or any kind of gamble. playing gambling just for fun, that's great. because we also do the same thing, also we will not target luck and win high profits. however, it has nothing to do with just having fun, we will win. Likewise in the game of poker, because after all there are techniques and skills involved.

So, what you say is quite reasonable. we will be more relaxed and enjoy the game session. but with a note, it must always involve the controls and limits that we can afford.

I'd actually say a person thinking of playing for fun would never think of doing it to win more, that's just contradictory. And no, I also don't think it actually helps, maybe a bit, but not that much. I've always played for fun without minding wins or losses all the time but I rarely get instances of winning more than losing. It's mostly breaking even at times really.

And besides, it's not just the "not having fun" part that could stress you out. Even you being rather competitive in games like poker just for the sake of being competitive ( which, honestly gets brought up depending on your character and not whether you're intentionally having fun or not) is enough to stress you up as well.

Depends on mental heath of gambler, sometimes playing poker or other table games may reduce stress so you can feel better for few hours. If person has stressful life having side jobs or something that he can keep himself busy may help a lot, gambling is for fun and that is why we gamblers don't try to lose more than we can afford to lose

As I said earlier, this does not increase the probability and percentage in winning but it does make you mentally and emotionally clearer because when gambling just for fun and putting aside winning even if it is desired is definitely the difference in this case.

Speaking of self-control, this can also be the key to keeping our minds relaxed because even though the initial intention is to have fun, sometimes we are always carried away in conditions where we are always cornered and lose so that the things that have been designed in fun are destroyed there.

playing for fun only opens you up to diplomacy, you learn alot of things from your mates, at the same time if you consistently play for fun, that's obviously an addiction, isn't it better you Chanel those skills and experience to the right source and make good cool cash.

I personally believe  that would not help to improve my luck, I would need to try.  :P
But it makes sense that if someone goes to gamble without further expectations, then they would get less affected in the case of a bad outcome and in the case of a good one, then it turns into a pleasant surprise.

Whether we are superstitious or not, we should always be aware that gambling follows the laws of probabilities and there is little to no proof our emotional state could change the results, however it can change the reaction we have on the results.

That's true, every game is basically determined by the probabilities/math that define it.

But, I have to say that there is a human element in the sense that you can stop while winning, or at least stop before losing more. That element can be changed depending on how the person feels at the time.

I reckon if someone is very happy they will probably be able to walk away with a moderate win for example.

I think it depends on every individual people or is it just a state of mind they get from playing gambling for a long time that they don't think they have to try their best to win. It's just that they have to play for fun because that's how they used to it for a very long time and they win perhaps they were lucky that day. I'm sure it's not always a win-win everyday but it's just that their experience from playing for a long time brought it to them to where they are now.

Alot of progress can be made in Poker by not trying to hard to get the win every round, your behavior can become well too defined and helps to signal your opponents.  Indirectly of course you are giving them too much information about your probable cards by your behavior, combined with the cards known they can deploy inference and calculate better their odds of winning.   Never predictable in Poker imo, even sometimes lose a round if it helps that overall objective to remain elusive.

this becomes a psychological problem, because they are not satisfied with just one win and want to win streaks. Instead of wanting to have a winning streak they keep losing continuously. and at the end in the last session they will be given a win to be able to believe again that they will be lucky. this is usually regulated by several online gambling systems. Each dealer will always have more profits, only a few players are given the jackpot to tempt other players to put in more money, hoping to get the jackpot too. The online gambling system has been set up in such a way that it's impossible to get a winning streak.

Crappy mindset for me. Makes ways to win instead and that would make gambling more fun. Don't take gambling just for fun literally even amid losses, it's just fine because you are having fun. Can't you imagine how much money you are losing now because of the mindset that gambling is just for fun?

If having a mindset to be serious about winning gambling, the profit will you make here is the reason to have that fun.

Gambling is not fun when you are losing. :)

Gambling can't be considered as fun by everyone. Maybe 1 out of 10 might consider gambling as fun.
The majority prioritise it as a way to multiply the amount risked, though they've the right understanding.
People who have good money might consider gambling as fun, but the mind changes when they start losing.
Gambling with fun mindset will ease the gambling experience and make way for relaxed gambling.

The best feeling on winning in a casino or any kind gamble is by doing that , i mean yeah expecting the unexpected to win big and collect it all in style , yet it's hard to do that.

Helping really , but not easy to go for it , very few im pretty sure.

I'm not sure if there's a mental or psychological explanation for that but I've been there and done that. The more I think about winning, the more I lose and I think that's fair and the same for the other gamblers out there. And when I yolo and think that it's fine to lose such bets then a sudden win comes. Yeah, I don't really know what's the explanation behind that but there's something that when we're expecting something, it doesn't come. And when we're not expecting it, then it comes. So, I'd say that it's helping me sometimes but it's a case to case basis and it differs from situation to situation.

then never expect a profit, you are aiming for fun then profit or winning is just a bonus to take right?


then the approach is best for everyone that can take the advise and use it for their own benefits.


losing is a part of gambling and actually? 70-90% of your gambling activities will be losing and that is the sad reality here.

Actually I have applied this a long time ago, but when I say that sometimes people misunderstand what I am saying, they actually accuse us of being like rich people who waste money to have fun at the gambling table even though that is not the intention.

We should maintain a mindset so that we are not obsessed with winning and are more relaxed about having fun so that when we lose, we are not too curious and continue to play spending money and then become an addict, this is a powerful way to avoid addiction as well and it all starts with how we play and mindset

Thank you all for your outputs. We all have our own opinion about how does being positive and composed all the time, like you are playing for fun affects the outcome of your bets.
Some thinks it didn't matter and some thinks it does, either of the two the main goal for gambling is to have fun and win of course. In my own experience I thought it's really difficult not to be concerned about winning than having fun.